Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:47 PM, John Gilpin thegilp...@btinternet.comwrote: Sorry I have been out a bit today and therefore have missed quite a bit of the goings-on on the list. Firstly, my 3 Auroras - all with SGCs attached need new batteries and I even went to the trouble of building a prototype using vero-board, a CR2032 cell and a suitable battery holder - from Maplins - but had to experiment a bit to find something the correct diameter for the mounting pins resulting in a loose connection which is rather unsuitable and unreliable. I need three of any unit successfully produced. I offered to get 50 or 100 produced by QUANTA but didn't think the demand would be worth the efforts. Also, my prototype was too high to enable the SGC to slide into the aperture for the expansion port on the Black Box QL. This restriction does not apply to the Aurora expansion card which is mounted to a standard backplane with a QuBide board for the Hard Drive(s). The 7mm clearance from bottom of battery to the top of the case opening is not the worst limiting factor. The problem is the CPU in socket sat next to it - this puts a width limitation on the PCB that means that the four pins need to be within 0.05 (1.27mm) of the corner/edge of the PCB. One solution to this is to invert the PCB, and have the battery on the bottom of the PCB. I will of course have to have the PCBs made with RED solder resist, so they match the gold cards. Please can you disclose your Surname so we know it's Dave Smith or Jones we're communicating with? Thanks. Dave Park of Austin, Texas, formerly of Bedford (where I worked at Sandy) and Milton Keynes, England. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Plastic wrote, on 16/Feb/11 09:12 | Feb16: Dave/ Please can you disclose your Surname so we know it's Dave Smith or Jones we're communicating with? Thanks. Dave Park of Austin, Texas, formerly of Bedford (where I worked at Sandy) and Milton Keynes, England. That is not comprehensive enough - I want your place of birth, first school, secondary school and uni at the least (8-)# I liked David Tubbs oblique reference. (only joking of course) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Plastic wrote, on 16/Feb/11 09:12 | Feb16: Dave/ Please can you disclose your Surname so we know it's Dave Smith or Jones we're communicating with? Thanks. Dave Park of Austin, Texas, formerly of Bedford (where I worked at Sandy) and Milton Keynes, England. That is not comprehensive enough - I want your place of birth, first school, secondary school and uni at the least (8-)# I liked David Tubbs oblique reference. (only joking of course) I was born at platform 11 waiting room, New Street Station, Birmingham. My first school was Stondon Lower School, which is, ironically, in UPPER Stondon, not Lower Stondon. I went to Churchill College in Cambridge. Anything else? Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Plastic wrote, on 16/Feb/11 10:30 | Feb16: Dave/ On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Plastic wrote, on 16/Feb/11 09:12 | Feb16: Dave/ Please can you disclose your Surname so we know it's Dave Smith or Jones we're communicating with? Thanks. Dave Park of Austin, Texas, formerly of Bedford (where I worked at Sandy) and Milton Keynes, England. That is not comprehensive enough - I want your place of birth, first school, secondary school and uni at the least (8-)# I liked David Tubbs oblique reference. (only joking of course) I was born at platform 11 waiting room, New Street Station, Birmingham. My first school was Stondon Lower School, which is, ironically, in UPPER Stondon, not Lower Stondon. I went to Churchill College in Cambridge. Anything else? That birthplace is very good isn't it - could be the subject of a David Lean film. Do you like steam trains (8-)# I was born in the same room as my mother in the village post office, Rhydlewis, Wales. Again unusual but not nearly as romantic as yours. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: That birthplace is very good isn't it - could be the subject of a David Lean film. Do you like steam trains (8-)# I was born in the same room as my mother in the village post office, Rhydlewis, Wales. Again unusual but not nearly as romantic as yours. Tony Thankfully some little indie British film called Harry Potter has added a mystique to train platforms, so now it has a New Charm(tm) ... On the subject of the Gold Card/SGC battery, the PCB is designed and tested, and I will be ordering the PCBs in about three weeks when I have some money coming to me. After that, things will move quite quickly. The only item I haven't sourced in satisfactory quality is the pins. Dave Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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At 10:15 16/02/2011 +, you wrote: I liked David Tubbs oblique reference. (only joking of course) Tony As,indeed, I liked Rich's ref. But was mine jokular or snide ? I'm not sure. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 16 Feb 2011, at 10:30, Plastic wrote: was born at platform 11 waiting room, New Street Station, Birmingham. In a handbag? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:53 AM, gdgqler gdgq...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 Feb 2011, at 10:30, Plastic wrote: was born at platform 11 waiting room, New Street Station, Birmingham. In a handbag? Brummie women didn't 'ave 'andbags in the 60s. They 'ad clubs wi' 'idden compartments. Not saying my mom is tough, but the way she tells it, she was very put out that they wouldn't let her take the train and made her go to hospital to have me checked out. I mean, she paid for the tickets already. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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gdgqler wrote, on 16/Feb/11 14:53 | Feb16: On 16 Feb 2011, at 10:30, Plastic wrote: was born at platform 11 waiting room, New Street Station, Birmingham. In a handbag? Silly - that was Victoria on the Worthing line (8-)# and his name is not Ernest. Maybe here: http://www.travellerspoint.com/photos/stream/photoID/490908/orderByID/ Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: gdgqler wrote, on 16/Feb/11 14:53 | Feb16: On 16 Feb 2011, at 10:30, Plastic wrote: was born at platform 11 waiting room, New Street Station, Birmingham. In a handbag? Silly - that was Victoria on the Worthing line (8-)# and his name is not Ernest. Maybe here: http://www.travellerspoint.com/photos/stream/photoID/490908/orderByID/ That scares me. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: I have a Gold Card which has the discontinued 40LF220 lithium battery. The equivalent MGL0025 is also discontinued, and even with the long shelf life of these lithium batteries, the new old stock ones are now useless. When you can find them, they were manufactured in 2002 and cost $30+ - one place quoted me $140 for a minimum order of 5, plus shipping. Is there a ready-made adaptor PCB available that will allow me to use a CR2032? Does the Super Gold Card use the same battery? If not, I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. I cannot make a guess on price as I have not looked at the cost of short-run PCBs recently. I would be happy to send batches of these to traders in each country at cost price. What is the need/demand for something like this? I would take 3. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: ... I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. Make sure the total height does not exceed the original. I had to shave of the legs of the holder to make it fit the QL without contacting the metal keyboard plate. Bob -- The BSJR QL software site at: http://members.chello.nl/b.spelten/ql/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Bob Spelten b...@chello.nl wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: ... I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. Make sure the total height does not exceed the original. I had to shave of the legs of the holder to make it fit the QL without contacting the metal keyboard plate. There is 7mm of clearance from the top of the ICs below the battery to the top of the tallest component., Most holders are 7.5mm tall. I have selected a surface mount, low profile holder that, with the PCB thickness, will not be taller than the surrounding components - which leaves 1.2mm of clearance. Hope this helps... Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 15/02/2011 01:39, Plastic wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Bob Speltenb...@chello.nl wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: ... I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. Make sure the total height does not exceed the original. I had to shave of the legs of the holder to make it fit the QL without contacting the metal keyboard plate. There is 7mm of clearance from the top of the ICs below the battery to the top of the tallest component., Most holders are 7.5mm tall. I have selected a surface mount, low profile holder that, with the PCB thickness, will not be taller than the surrounding components - which leaves 1.2mm of clearance. Hope this helps... Dave It seems to me that only two pins connect the battery, the other pair being support; am I right? Bryan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Bryan Horstmann wrote, on 15/Feb/11 13:42 | Feb15: On 15/02/2011 01:39, Plastic wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Bob Speltenb...@chello.nl wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: ... I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. Make sure the total height does not exceed the original. I had to shave of the legs of the holder to make it fit the QL without contacting the metal keyboard plate. There is 7mm of clearance from the top of the ICs below the battery to the top of the tallest component., Most holders are 7.5mm tall. I have selected a surface mount, low profile holder that, with the PCB thickness, will not be taller than the surrounding components - which leaves 1.2mm of clearance. Hope this helps... Dave It seems to me that only two pins connect the battery, the other pair being support; am I right? Yes. I have seen some builds of GC/SGC with a plus sign but I don't think it is a=on all of them. Installation instructions will be needed. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Bryan Horstmann wrote, on 15/Feb/11 13:42 | Feb15: On 15/02/2011 01:39, Plastic wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Bob Speltenb...@chello.nl wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: ... I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. Make sure the total height does not exceed the original. I had to shave of the legs of the holder to make it fit the QL without contacting the metal keyboard plate. There is 7mm of clearance from the top of the ICs below the battery to the top of the tallest component., Most holders are 7.5mm tall. I have selected a surface mount, low profile holder that, with the PCB thickness, will not be taller than the surrounding components - which leaves 1.2mm of clearance. Hope this helps... Dave It seems to me that only two pins connect the battery, the other pair being support; am I right? Yes. I have seen some builds of GC/SGC with a plus sign but I don't think it is a=on all of them. Installation instructions will be needed. I will do a 1-off design verification board. Yes, only the top left pin was +3.0v, and the other three were 0v. On the GC only the bottom right pin was connected, but on other designs, other pins may have been used. So the PCB will have the +ve pin, then all the ground pins will be linked. This way, the board will also fit other designs that used the same battery. Later I will remove the ICs and continuity test to confirm the board is electrically the same as appearance, as it is a 4-layer board and there may be a hidden via. I will include full, IKEA-style instructions :) Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Il giorno 15/feb/11, alle ore 00:06, Plastic ha scritto: I didn't notice it was socketed and thought it was soldered to the board and those were spacers *laughs* I will have to locate some pins or leads that fit the socket, but yes, Rich is correct: no soldering required. I am prepared to commit to making a batch of 100 if I see any other signs of interest in addition to Rich's observation... Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I would take two. I currently have a SGC whith the original battery still working and a GC whith a CR 2032 put in a socket connected by two flying wires soldered on it and inserted in + and - pins on the GC battery socket. It works, but a more reliable and stable solution is welcome. Vittorio ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Plastic wrote, on 15/Feb/11 14:03 | Feb15: I will include full, IKEA-style instructions :) ... so it will be flat pack then and have a strange name (8-)# I think the best was a table top called Bra. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org wrote: On 15/02/2011 02:03, Plastic wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Bryan Horstmann wrote, on 15/Feb/11 13:42 | Feb15: On 15/02/2011 01:39, Plastic wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Bob Speltenb...@chello.nl wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: ... I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. Make sure the total height does not exceed the original. I had to shave of the legs of the holder to make it fit the QL without contacting the metal keyboard plate. There is 7mm of clearance from the top of the ICs below the battery to the top of the tallest component., Most holders are 7.5mm tall. I have selected a surface mount, low profile holder that, with the PCB thickness, will not be taller than the surrounding components - which leaves 1.2mm of clearance. Hope this helps... Dave It seems to me that only two pins connect the battery, the other pair being support; am I right? Yes. I have seen some builds of GC/SGC with a plus sign but I don't think it is a=on all of them. Installation instructions will be needed. I will do a 1-off design verification board. Yes, only the top left pin was +3.0v, and the other three were 0v. On the GC only the bottom right pin was connected, but on other designs, other pins may have been used. So the PCB will have the +ve pin, then all the ground pins will be linked. This way, the board will also fit other designs that used the same battery. Later I will remove the ICs and continuity test to confirm the board is electrically the same as appearance, as it is a 4-layer board and there may be a hidden via. I will include full, IKEA-style instructions :) Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3444 - Release Date: 02/14/11 On my SAFT battery only two pins are connected, + and - , the other two are isolated. Bryan On my SAFT example here (date code 97 12) there is a +ve indication top left but no -ve indication. All three other pins have continuity to each other. Is your different? Mine is labeled: === *+*SAFT memoguard 40 LF 220 Lithium 3V 97 02 === Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Yes, I did this a year ago for my two SGCs and found the same difficulty - in my case it was proximity to the card in the next expansion slot of the Qplane. A surface mount battery holder will sort that. Rich, whatever did you do with the PCB design that I sent you for these battery holders back then? Adrian -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bob Spelten Sent: 15 February 2011 13:31 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery... On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: ... I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. Make sure the total height does not exceed the original. I had to shave of the legs of the holder to make it fit the QL without contacting the metal keyboard plate. Bob -- The BSJR QL software site at: http://members.chello.nl/b.spelten/ql/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 15/02/2011 02:35, Plastic wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: On 15/02/2011 02:03, Plastic wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Bryan Horstmann wrote, on 15/Feb/11 13:42 | Feb15: On 15/02/2011 01:39, Plastic wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Bob Speltenb...@chello.nl wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:38, Plastic wrote: ... I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. Make sure the total height does not exceed the original. I had to shave of the legs of the holder to make it fit the QL without contacting the metal keyboard plate. There is 7mm of clearance from the top of the ICs below the battery to the top of the tallest component., Most holders are 7.5mm tall. I have selected a surface mount, low profile holder that, with the PCB thickness, will not be taller than the surrounding components - which leaves 1.2mm of clearance. Hope this helps... Dave It seems to me that only two pins connect the battery, the other pair being support; am I right? Yes. I have seen some builds of GC/SGC with a plus sign but I don't think it is a=on all of them. Installation instructions will be needed. I will do a 1-off design verification board. Yes, only the top left pin was +3.0v, and the other three were 0v. On the GC only the bottom right pin was connected, but on other designs, other pins may have been used. So the PCB will have the +ve pin, then all the ground pins will be linked. This way, the board will also fit other designs that used the same battery. Later I will remove the ICs and continuity test to confirm the board is electrically the same as appearance, as it is a 4-layer board and there may be a hidden via. I will include full, IKEA-style instructions :) Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3444 - Release Date: 02/14/11 On my SAFT battery only two pins are connected, + and - , the other two are isolated. Bryan On my SAFT example here (date code 97 12) there is a +ve indication top left but no -ve indication. All three other pins have continuity to each other. Is your different? Mine is labeled: === *+*SAFT memoguard 40 LF 220 Lithium 3V 97 02 === Dave The only difference is that mine is 92 10, even older. Bryan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 15/02/2011 14:46, Adrian Ives wrote: Rich, whatever did you do with the PCB design that I sent you for these battery holders back then? Adrian Ah - a good point - I have dug this out and emailed it to Dave (plasticuser) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi Dave Sorry I have been out a bit today and therefore have missed quite a bit of the goings-on on the list. Firstly, my 3 Auroras - all with SGCs attached need new batteries and I even went to the trouble of building a prototype using vero-board, a CR2032 cell and a suitable battery holder - from Maplins - but had to experiment a bit to find something the correct diameter for the mounting pins resulting in a loose connection which is rather unsuitable and unreliable. I need three of any unit successfully produced. I offered to get 50 or 100 produced by QUANTA but didn't think the demand would be worth the efforts. Also, my prototype was too high to enable the SGC to slide into the aperture for the expansion port on the Black Box QL. This restriction does not apply to the Aurora expansion card which is mounted to a standard backplane with a QuBide board for the Hard Drive(s). Please can you disclose your Surname so we know it's Dave Smith or Jones we're communicating with? Thanks. Cheers all, John Gilpin. On 14/02/2011 19:38, Plastic wrote: Hi all, I have a Gold Card which has the discontinued 40LF220 lithium battery. The equivalent MGL0025 is also discontinued, and even with the long shelf life of these lithium batteries, the new old stock ones are now useless. When you can find them, they were manufactured in 2002 and cost $30+ - one place quoted me $140 for a minimum order of 5, plus shipping. Is there a ready-made adaptor PCB available that will allow me to use a CR2032? Does the Super Gold Card use the same battery? If not, I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. I cannot make a guess on price as I have not looked at the cost of short-run PCBs recently. I would be happy to send batches of these to traders in each country at cost price. What is the need/demand for something like this? Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 15/02/2011 23:47, John Gilpin wrote: Hi Dave Please can you disclose your Surname so we know it's Dave Smith or Jones we're communicating with? Thanks. Seeing as we all must have grown up through the 80s -surely the answer to that one is. Alas. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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At 23:51 15/02/2011 +, you wrote: On 15/02/2011 23:47, John Gilpin wrote: Hi Dave Please can you disclose your Surname so we know it's Dave Smith or Jones we're communicating with? Thanks. Seeing as we all must have grown up through the 80s -surely the answer to that one is. Alas. Perhaps JG should look in a different ball Park ?? Miopic EOE ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
Hi all, I have a Gold Card which has the discontinued 40LF220 lithium battery. The equivalent MGL0025 is also discontinued, and even with the long shelf life of these lithium batteries, the new old stock ones are now useless. When you can find them, they were manufactured in 2002 and cost $30+ - one place quoted me $140 for a minimum order of 5, plus shipping. Is there a ready-made adaptor PCB available that will allow me to use a CR2032? Does the Super Gold Card use the same battery? If not, I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. I cannot make a guess on price as I have not looked at the cost of short-run PCBs recently. I would be happy to send batches of these to traders in each country at cost price. What is the need/demand for something like this? Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 19:38 | Feb14: Hi all, I have a Gold Card which has the discontinued 40LF220 lithium battery. The equivalent MGL0025 is also discontinued, and even with the long shelf life of these lithium batteries, the new old stock ones are now useless. When you can find them, they were manufactured in 2002 and cost $30+ - one place quoted me $140 for a minimum order of 5, plus shipping. Is there a ready-made adaptor PCB available that will allow me to use a CR2032? Does the Super Gold Card use the same battery? If not, I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. I cannot make a guess on price as I have not looked at the cost of short-run PCBs recently. I would be happy to send batches of these to traders in each country at cost price. What is the need/demand for something like this? I am sure that would be popular. I keep getting asked about these batteries. All my GC/SGC batteries are dead, but (of course) my systems use the Minerva clock. Is the CR2032 man enough though? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 19:38 | Feb14: Hi all, I have a Gold Card which has the discontinued 40LF220 lithium battery. The equivalent MGL0025 is also discontinued, and even with the long shelf life of these lithium batteries, the new old stock ones are now useless. When you can find them, they were manufactured in 2002 and cost $30+ - one place quoted me $140 for a minimum order of 5, plus shipping. Is there a ready-made adaptor PCB available that will allow me to use a CR2032? Does the Super Gold Card use the same battery? If not, I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. I cannot make a guess on price as I have not looked at the cost of short-run PCBs recently. I would be happy to send batches of these to traders in each country at cost price. What is the need/demand for something like this? I am sure that would be popular. I keep getting asked about these batteries. All my GC/SGC batteries are dead, but (of course) my systems use the Minerva clock. Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 19:54 | Feb14: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 19:38 | Feb14: Hi all, I have a Gold Card which has the discontinued 40LF220 lithium battery. The equivalent MGL0025 is also discontinued, and even with the long shelf life of these lithium batteries, the new old stock ones are now useless. When you can find them, they were manufactured in 2002 and cost $30+ - one place quoted me $140 for a minimum order of 5, plus shipping. Is there a ready-made adaptor PCB available that will allow me to use a CR2032? Does the Super Gold Card use the same battery? If not, I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. I cannot make a guess on price as I have not looked at the cost of short-run PCBs recently. I would be happy to send batches of these to traders in each country at cost price. What is the need/demand for something like this? I am sure that would be popular. I keep getting asked about these batteries. All my GC/SGC batteries are dead, but (of course) my systems use the Minerva clock. Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 19:54 | Feb14: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 19:38 | Feb14: Hi all, I have a Gold Card which has the discontinued 40LF220 lithium battery. The equivalent MGL0025 is also discontinued, and even with the long shelf life of these lithium batteries, the new old stock ones are now useless. When you can find them, they were manufactured in 2002 and cost $30+ - one place quoted me $140 for a minimum order of 5, plus shipping. Is there a ready-made adaptor PCB available that will allow me to use a CR2032? Does the Super Gold Card use the same battery? If not, I would be happy to design and manufacture a limited run of these adaptors to use CR2032s so we can all have our battery backed clocks working again. I cannot make a guess on price as I have not looked at the cost of short-run PCBs recently. I would be happy to send batches of these to traders in each country at cost price. What is the need/demand for something like this? I am sure that would be popular. I keep getting asked about these batteries. All my GC/SGC batteries are dead, but (of course) my systems use the Minerva clock. Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a CR2032 socket, and a CR2032 battery. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On 14 Feb 2011, at 20:01, Plastic plasticu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a CR2032 socket, and a CR2032 battery. Ah sorry. 3 years though seems a mite short. I wonder if there is a more beefier battery that is thin enough - or maybe a chargeable one? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 20:01, Plastic plasticu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a CR2032 socket, and a CR2032 battery. Ah sorry. 3 years though seems a mite short. I wonder if there is a more beefier battery that is thin enough - or maybe a chargeable one? There is, but it has 50% higher capacity and costs $12 instead of $0.99 at the supermarket. I said three years as a minimum. It's quite possible that it would last 5-6-7 years - I'm just being very conservative. Also, the CR2032socket in bulk is under $1, but the socket for the CR2045 is $7.80 in bulk. I think people will happily pay $15-20 for a 3-5 year battery change at 99p than pay $25-$30 for an extra couple of years. Also, changing the CR2032 batteries is so easy... 15 seconds, including removing and re-inserting the card. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Gold card battery
When using a Gold Card system, my printing went haywire. Users' help advised me about the chips involved. I tried another QL, transferring the Gold card (needing to use the floppy disk ) ; still no joy. I put a Trump card in the first QL and it seems to work OK. So I suspected the Gold card, but why when the chips are on QL. The thread about Gold card batteries led me to check the battery on mine, which is about 1.5 volts. Could this be the cause of the serial output failure? Bryan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 20:50 | Feb14: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 20:01, Plasticplasticu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a CR2032 socket, and a CR2032 battery. Ah sorry. 3 years though seems a mite short. I wonder if there is a more beefier battery that is thin enough - or maybe a chargeable one? There is, but it has 50% higher capacity and costs $12 instead of $0.99 at the supermarket. I said three years as a minimum. It's quite possible that it would last 5-6-7 years - I'm just being very conservative. Also, the CR2032socket in bulk is under $1, but the socket for the CR2045 is $7.80 in bulk. I think people will happily pay $15-20 for a 3-5 year battery change at 99p than pay $25-$30 for an extra couple of years. Also, changing the CR2032 batteries is so easy... 15 seconds, including removing and re-inserting the card. Yes - in that case the 2032 makes sense. It is a pity the PC has stadardised now on the low capacity non-rechargeable. In the old days they used a Minerva like NiCad pack that lasted for yonks. Tony Well no, it makes perfect sense. The Gold Card was designed with the expectation that it would still be in use in ten years. Can a typical new PC expect to outlast the battery? Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On 14/02/2011 21:23, Tony Firshman wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 20:50 | Feb14: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 20:01, Plasticplasticu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a CR2032 socket, and a CR2032 battery. Ah sorry. 3 years though seems a mite short. I wonder if there is a more beefier battery that is thin enough - or maybe a chargeable one? There is, but it has 50% higher capacity and costs $12 instead of $0.99 at the supermarket. I said three years as a minimum. It's quite possible that it would last 5-6-7 years - I'm just being very conservative. Also, the CR2032socket in bulk is under $1, but the socket for the CR2045 is $7.80 in bulk. I think people will happily pay $15-20 for a 3-5 year battery change at 99p than pay $25-$30 for an extra couple of years. Also, changing the CR2032 batteries is so easy... 15 seconds, including removing and re-inserting the card. Yes - in that case the 2032 makes sense. It is a pity the PC has stadardised now on the low capacity non-rechargeable. In the old days they used a Minerva like NiCad pack that lasted for yonks. These NiCad packs are not good in old computers - I've seen far too many amigas destroyed by acid from leaky rechargeables! GC and SGC are scarce enough these days as it is - imagine how bad it would be if they'd had a rechargeable battery on them Phil ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Phil Kett pk...@genesis-midi.com wrote: On 14/02/2011 21:23, Tony Firshman wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 20:50 | Feb14: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 20:01, Plasticplasticu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a CR2032 socket, and a CR2032 battery. Ah sorry. 3 years though seems a mite short. I wonder if there is a more beefier battery that is thin enough - or maybe a chargeable one? There is, but it has 50% higher capacity and costs $12 instead of $0.99 at the supermarket. I said three years as a minimum. It's quite possible that it would last 5-6-7 years - I'm just being very conservative. Also, the CR2032socket in bulk is under $1, but the socket for the CR2045 is $7.80 in bulk. I think people will happily pay $15-20 for a 3-5 year battery change at 99p than pay $25-$30 for an extra couple of years. Also, changing the CR2032 batteries is so easy... 15 seconds, including removing and re-inserting the card. Yes - in that case the 2032 makes sense. It is a pity the PC has stadardised now on the low capacity non-rechargeable. In the old days they used a Minerva like NiCad pack that lasted for yonks. These NiCad packs are not good in old computers - I've seen far too many amigas destroyed by acid from leaky rechargeables! GC and SGC are scarce enough these days as it is - imagine how bad it would be if they'd had a rechargeable battery on them Okay, I have looked at the parts, PCB design and got a couple of quotes for PCB manufacture. As a rough guide, it looks like the retail price from a trader would be around $20 (€14.83, £12.50) to $25 (€18.54, £15.60) if I made 100. Lead free, gold contacts, includes quality CR2032 battery. Requires soldering four pins to install (or ship your card off for a nominal fee if you're not confident to do this). You may need to change the battery out once every 5 years or so. You can buy CR2032 batteries at your local supermarket. What is the interest in this part? Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On 14/02/2011 22:53, Plastic wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Phil Kettpk...@genesis-midi.com wrote: On 14/02/2011 21:23, Tony Firshman wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 20:50 | Feb14: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 20:01, Plasticplasticu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a CR2032 socket, and a CR2032 battery. Ah sorry. 3 years though seems a mite short. I wonder if there is a more beefier battery that is thin enough - or maybe a chargeable one? There is, but it has 50% higher capacity and costs $12 instead of $0.99 at the supermarket. I said three years as a minimum. It's quite possible that it would last 5-6-7 years - I'm just being very conservative. Also, the CR2032socket in bulk is under $1, but the socket for the CR2045 is $7.80 in bulk. I think people will happily pay $15-20 for a 3-5 year battery change at 99p than pay $25-$30 for an extra couple of years. Also, changing the CR2032 batteries is so easy... 15 seconds, including removing and re-inserting the card. Yes - in that case the 2032 makes sense. It is a pity the PC has stadardised now on the low capacity non-rechargeable. In the old days they used a Minerva like NiCad pack that lasted for yonks. These NiCad packs are not good in old computers - I've seen far too many amigas destroyed by acid from leaky rechargeables! GC and SGC are scarce enough these days as it is - imagine how bad it would be if they'd had a rechargeable battery on them Okay, I have looked at the parts, PCB design and got a couple of quotes for PCB manufacture. As a rough guide, it looks like the retail price from a trader would be around $20 (€14.83, £12.50) to $25 (€18.54, £15.60) if I made 100. Lead free, gold contacts, includes quality CR2032 battery. Requires soldering four pins to install (or ship your card off for a nominal fee if you're not confident to do this). You may need to change the battery out once every 5 years or so. You can buy CR2032 batteries at your local supermarket. What is the interest in this part? Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm There is probably enough QL user interest for 30-50 batteries that I know of. Could the pins not be ready soldered, so that it is just a direct plug in replacement ? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold card battery...
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.ukwrote: On 14/02/2011 22:53, Plastic wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Phil Kettpk...@genesis-midi.com wrote: On 14/02/2011 21:23, Tony Firshman wrote: Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 20:50 | Feb14: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tony Firshmant...@firshman.co.uk wrote: On 14 Feb 2011, at 20:01, Plasticplasticu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Is the CR2032 man enough though? The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced every three years or so, which would be a simple pop a new one in operation... The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long shelf life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this application. The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite new in the late 80s. I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny, single layer PCBs made. Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need be replaced? ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)# ) That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a CR2032 socket, and a CR2032 battery. Ah sorry. 3 years though seems a mite short. I wonder if there is a more beefier battery that is thin enough - or maybe a chargeable one? There is, but it has 50% higher capacity and costs $12 instead of $0.99 at the supermarket. I said three years as a minimum. It's quite possible that it would last 5-6-7 years - I'm just being very conservative. Also, the CR2032socket in bulk is under $1, but the socket for the CR2045 is $7.80 in bulk. I think people will happily pay $15-20 for a 3-5 year battery change at 99p than pay $25-$30 for an extra couple of years. Also, changing the CR2032 batteries is so easy... 15 seconds, including removing and re-inserting the card. Yes - in that case the 2032 makes sense. It is a pity the PC has stadardised now on the low capacity non-rechargeable. In the old days they used a Minerva like NiCad pack that lasted for yonks. These NiCad packs are not good in old computers - I've seen far too many amigas destroyed by acid from leaky rechargeables! GC and SGC are scarce enough these days as it is - imagine how bad it would be if they'd had a rechargeable battery on them Okay, I have looked at the parts, PCB design and got a couple of quotes for PCB manufacture. As a rough guide, it looks like the retail price from a trader would be around $20 (€14.83, £12.50) to $25 (€18.54, £15.60) if I made 100. Lead free, gold contacts, includes quality CR2032 battery. Requires soldering four pins to install (or ship your card off for a nominal fee if you're not confident to do this). You may need to change the battery out once every 5 years or so. You can buy CR2032 batteries at your local supermarket. What is the interest in this part? Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm There is probably enough QL user interest for 30-50 batteries that I know of. Could the pins not be ready soldered, so that it is just a direct plug in replacement ? I didn't notice it was socketed and thought it was soldered to the board and those were spacers *laughs* I will have to locate some pins or leads that fit the socket, but yes, Rich is correct: no soldering required. I am prepared to commit to making a batch of 100 if I see any other signs of interest in addition to Rich's observation... Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Gold Card Battery.
John With the Gold Card connecting pins on your left and looking down at the card, the battery is the red square block nearest the bottom. Look at it closely. It has four pins, one at each corner. The top Right hand corner should be marked + The bottom Left hand corner, which is diagonally opposite, should be marked - The other two pins are dead. It is only a push in fit so you can lever it up gently with a knife blade. I cannot remember for sure, but I believe the board is marked + and - underneath the battery too. I hope this helps, John. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold Card Battery.
John Taylor wrote, On 30/08/09 16:20: John With the Gold Card connecting pins on your left and looking down at the card, the battery is the red square block nearest the bottom. Look at it closely. It has four pins, one at each corner. The top Right hand corner should be marked + The bottom Left hand corner, which is diagonally opposite, should be marked - The other two pins are dead. It is only a push in fit so you can lever it up gently with a knife blade. I cannot remember for sure, but I believe the board is marked + and - underneath the battery too. Only + is on the battery. + only is also marked on the underside of the pcb - near the heatsink at the centre of the board. - is diagonally opposite but not labelled. The other two pins are indeed NC. I can confirm that there seem to be no supplies now. I tried very hard a year or so ago and failed. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Gold Card battery
The (GoldCard) QL clock of a friend of mine is reset at every boot (1961...). I guess the Gold Card battery ran down. Is it stil possible to find that type of battery? Thank you Davide ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Gold Card battery
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Davide Santachiara wrote: The (GoldCard) QL clock of a friend of mine is reset at every boot (1961...). I guess the Gold Card battery ran down. Is it stil possible to find that type of battery? Roy Wood has been selling these. Tony - -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2eU7M3RzOs8+btoRAlESAKCCBT2KMMRBZX2FgzvdEtbyb6b4WACfXBhK j29z/+Y/IcFD/XSFyR+w+60= =8VTN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Gold Card Battery Clock
A friend of mine told me that his old QL with Gold Card does not keep the date anymore. It always displays 1982... when the QL is powered on. He told me he removed the Gold Card battery and he connected two standard 1,5V batteries. This fix worked fine for some years but now the QL does not keep the date anymore. Assuming the replacement 1,5+1,5V battery still works OK is there an alternative source of problem? Thanks for your help Davide ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Gold Card Battery
Quoting Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?iso-8859-7?B?1u/f4u/yINEuIM30/Orv8g==?=@: Yes it's a SAFT model (I believe French) (The same one is on the Gold Card as well (which believe it or not still hasn't failed ;-) So theoretically if I cannot find it here I could replace it with another run-of-the-mill 3V Lithium battery huh? Anyone ever done that? Had to replace mine a year or two ago. Used a standard 3v lithium battery. Kjartan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Gold Card Battery
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:16:03 +0100, John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Gold Card battery is the red, about one inch square block with four pins, the positive and negative pins are marked on opposing corners. The other two pins are unconnected and are there just for stability. If I remember rightly there is an identifying number on the top. It can be eased out and checked quite simply and is easy to replace. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm Yes it's a SAFT model (I believe French) (The same one is on the Gold Card as well (which believe it or not still hasn't failed ;-) So theoretically if I cannot find it here I could replace it with another run-of-the-mill 3V Lithium battery huh? Anyone ever done that? Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Gold Card Battery
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yes it's a SAFT model (I believe French) (The same one is on the Gold Card as well (which believe it or not still hasn't failed ;-) So theoretically if I cannot find it here I could replace it with another run-of-the-mill 3V Lithium battery huh? Anyone ever done that? We have been supplying them. I was buying the original batteries but Keith Mitchell has recently made some up using cheaper, but quite viable , alternative batteries have long intended to get some more stock -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
