Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-17 Thread pjwitte

On 17/10/2016 16:05, Marcel Kilgus wrote:

pjwitte wrote:

 English German   French
--  -- --
Things V1.01Things V1.01Choses V1.01
Button V1.03Button V1.03Bouton V1.03
Exec V1.02  Exec V1.02  Exéc V1.02
Wake V1.02  Wake V1.02  Réveil V1.02
Pick V1.02  Pick V1.02  Choix V1.02
Rjob V1.02  Ljob V1.02  Rjob V1.02
Sysdef V1.06Sysdef V1.06Sysdef V1.06
Files  V1.28Dateien  V1.28  Fichiers V1.28
Jobs V1.03  Jobs V1.03  Jobs V1.03
Channels V1.04  Kanäle V1.04Canaux V1.04
Hotkeys  V1.01  Hotkeys  V1.01  Hotkeys V1.01
Hotjobs  V1.01  Hotjobs  V1.01  Hotjobs V1.01
Button_Pick  V1.02  Button_Pick  V1.02  Button_Pick  V1.02
Button_Sleep V1.04  Button_Schlaf  V1.04Button_Sleep V1.04
Button Extensions 1.03  Button Extensions 1.03  Button Extensions 1.03
Button Frame 1.03   Button Frame 1.03   Button Frame 1.03
Well, here it is at last. The definitive list. Im relieved it wasnt
any worse than this.

Oh yes, misread your statement regarding "Button frame", that one is
constant. EasyPtr tries both "Button_Schlaf" and "Button_Sleep" for
putting a Window to sleep. Let's say I'd have made a different choice
on the localization of Thing names, too, but it is as it is...

Marcel
I was right to be worried. It could have been something as incongruous 
as Schaltfläche Rahmen ;)


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-17 Thread Marcel Kilgus
pjwitte wrote:
> English German   French
> --  -- --
> Things V1.01Things V1.01Choses V1.01
> Button V1.03Button V1.03Bouton V1.03
> Exec V1.02  Exec V1.02  Exéc V1.02
> Wake V1.02  Wake V1.02  Réveil V1.02
> Pick V1.02  Pick V1.02  Choix V1.02
> Rjob V1.02  Ljob V1.02  Rjob V1.02
> Sysdef V1.06Sysdef V1.06Sysdef V1.06
> Files  V1.28Dateien  V1.28  Fichiers V1.28
> Jobs V1.03  Jobs V1.03  Jobs V1.03
> Channels V1.04  Kanäle V1.04Canaux V1.04
> Hotkeys  V1.01  Hotkeys  V1.01  Hotkeys V1.01
> Hotjobs  V1.01  Hotjobs  V1.01  Hotjobs V1.01
> Button_Pick  V1.02  Button_Pick  V1.02 Button_Pick  V1.02
> Button_Sleep V1.04  Button_Schlaf  V1.04 Button_Sleep V1.04
> Button Extensions 1.03  Button Extensions 1.03  Button Extensions 1.03
> Button Frame 1.03   Button Frame 1.03   Button Frame 1.03

> Well, here it is at last. The definitive list. Im relieved it wasnt 
> any worse than this.

Oh yes, misread your statement regarding "Button frame", that one is
constant. EasyPtr tries both "Button_Schlaf" and "Button_Sleep" for
putting a Window to sleep. Let's say I'd have made a different choice
on the localization of Thing names, too, but it is as it is...

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-17 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi,

OK, so the "Files" thing will be the best test to see what version the 
user has - the name is different for all three languages.


Wolfgang

On 17/10/2016 14:26, Marcel Kilgus wrote:

pjwitte wrote:

You still need the name of the Thing to be able to use it, so yes, the
name is relevant. However, in the case of Button Frame, it appears to
be in English accross the board.

It isn't ("Button_Schlaf" in German). But why guess, all languages are
included in the distribution at

http://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/qpac/

Just try it yourself.

Marcel


   English German   French
--  -- --
Things V1.01Things V1.01Choses V1.01
Button V1.03Button V1.03Bouton V1.03
Exec V1.02  Exec V1.02  Exéc V1.02
Wake V1.02  Wake V1.02  Réveil V1.02
Pick V1.02  Pick V1.02  Choix V1.02
Rjob V1.02  Ljob V1.02  Rjob V1.02
Sysdef V1.06Sysdef V1.06Sysdef V1.06
Files  V1.28Dateien  V1.28  Fichiers V1.28
Jobs V1.03  Jobs V1.03  Jobs V1.03
Channels V1.04  Kanäle V1.04Canaux V1.04
Hotkeys  V1.01  Hotkeys  V1.01  Hotkeys V1.01
Hotjobs  V1.01  Hotjobs  V1.01  Hotjobs V1.01
Button_Pick  V1.02  Button_Pick  V1.02 Button_Pick  V1.02
Button_Sleep V1.04  Button_Schlaf  V1.04 Button_Sleep V1.04
Button Extensions 1.03  Button Extensions 1.03  Button Extensions 1.03
Button Frame 1.03   Button Frame 1.03   Button Frame 1.03

Well, here it is at last. The definitive list. Im relieved it wasnt any
worse than this.

Thanks for the input!

Per

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-17 Thread pjwitte

On 17/10/2016 14:26, Marcel Kilgus wrote:

pjwitte wrote:

You still need the name of the Thing to be able to use it, so yes, the
name is relevant. However, in the case of Button Frame, it appears to
be in English accross the board.

It isn't ("Button_Schlaf" in German). But why guess, all languages are
included in the distribution at

http://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/qpac/

Just try it yourself.

Marcel


   English German   French
--  -- --
Things V1.01Things V1.01Choses V1.01
Button V1.03Button V1.03Bouton V1.03
Exec V1.02  Exec V1.02  Exéc V1.02
Wake V1.02  Wake V1.02  Réveil V1.02
Pick V1.02  Pick V1.02  Choix V1.02
Rjob V1.02  Ljob V1.02  Rjob V1.02
Sysdef V1.06Sysdef V1.06Sysdef V1.06
Files  V1.28Dateien  V1.28  Fichiers V1.28
Jobs V1.03  Jobs V1.03  Jobs V1.03
Channels V1.04  Kanäle V1.04Canaux V1.04
Hotkeys  V1.01  Hotkeys  V1.01  Hotkeys V1.01
Hotjobs  V1.01  Hotjobs  V1.01  Hotjobs V1.01
Button_Pick  V1.02  Button_Pick  V1.02 Button_Pick  V1.02
Button_Sleep V1.04  Button_Schlaf  V1.04 Button_Sleep V1.04
Button Extensions 1.03  Button Extensions 1.03  Button Extensions 1.03
Button Frame 1.03   Button Frame 1.03   Button Frame 1.03

Well, here it is at last. The definitive list. Im relieved it wasnt 
any worse than this.


Thanks for the input!

Per

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-17 Thread Marcel Kilgus
pjwitte wrote:
> You still need the name of the Thing to be able to use it, so yes, the
> name is relevant. However, in the case of Button Frame, it appears to 
> be in English accross the board.

It isn't ("Button_Schlaf" in German). But why guess, all languages are
included in the distribution at

http://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/qpac/

Just try it yourself.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-17 Thread pjwitte

On 17/10/2016 12:49, Bob Spelten wrote:

Op Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:45:41 +0200 schreef pjwitte :


There doesnt seem to be an easy way to check the Qpac2 version; at
least nothing standard to determin the language. In SBASIC a heuristic
approach may be the simplest:

100 IF HOT_TYPE("button_sleep") = 4 THEN
110  EXEP 'button_sleep'
120 ELSE : IF HOT_TYPE("button_schlaf") = 4 THEN
130  EXEP 'button_schlaf'
140 ELSE : IF HOT_TYPE("button_") = 4 THEN
150  EXEP 'button_'
160 ELSE: PRINT 'Not found'
170 END IF : END IF : END IF
180 :

The keyword HOT_TYPE is built into SMSQ/E and hot_rext, and returns
err_nf if the named Thing is not present. What Id still like to know
is what other button_'es there are out there. Anyone?

The Button Frame Thing appears to be called "Button Frame" in all
languages. The sources are in among the SMSQ/E sources, although the
binary is not part of the OS but comes with Qpac2. The Button Frame is
also mentioned in the latest version of the SMSQ/E Guide. No mention
there of language differences.

The "Button Frame" is marked in the Thing list as UTIL, not an EXEC 
Job so the language  of the name seems irrelevant.
BUTTON_SLEEP/_SCHLAF is the only exception as far as QPAC2 Buttons 
are concerned.


I don't know Tobias's BSLEEP tool but there is also Jochen's BTFRAME 
to make use of the QPAC2 Frame and control your button. The bin is 
only 286 bytes but you need some extra S*Basic lines.

(It's on QLT CDv7i5 and probably the later ones.)

Bob

You still need the name of the Thing to be able to use it, so yes, the 
name is relevant. However, in the case of Button Frame, it appears to 
be in English accross the board.


As we have seen button_sleep is not the only anomaly: other Things 
have also been given localised names. But button_sleep matters more 
than the others, to my mind.


Three times lucky! Let me try again:

1) Does anyone here use localised versions of Qpac2, and

2) Could you please let me know what button_sleep is called in your 
language?


3) Alternatively, would someone please point me to the relevant 
documentation?


Per

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-17 Thread Bob Spelten

Op Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:45:41 +0200 schreef pjwitte :


There doesnt seem to be an easy way to check the Qpac2 version; at
least nothing standard to determin the language. In SBASIC a heuristic
approach may be the simplest:

100 IF HOT_TYPE("button_sleep") = 4 THEN
110  EXEP 'button_sleep'
120 ELSE : IF HOT_TYPE("button_schlaf") = 4 THEN
130  EXEP 'button_schlaf'
140 ELSE : IF HOT_TYPE("button_") = 4 THEN
150  EXEP 'button_'
160 ELSE: PRINT 'Not found'
170 END IF : END IF : END IF
180 :

The keyword HOT_TYPE is built into SMSQ/E and hot_rext, and returns
err_nf if the named Thing is not present. What Id still like to know
is what other button_'es there are out there. Anyone?

The Button Frame Thing appears to be called "Button Frame" in all
languages. The sources are in among the SMSQ/E sources, although the
binary is not part of the OS but comes with Qpac2. The Button Frame is
also mentioned in the latest version of the SMSQ/E Guide. No mention
there of language differences.

The "Button Frame" is marked in the Thing list as UTIL, not an EXEC Job so  
the language  of the name seems irrelevant.
BUTTON_SLEEP/_SCHLAF is the only exception as far as QPAC2 Buttons are  
concerned.


I don't know Tobias's BSLEEP tool but there is also Jochen's BTFRAME to  
make use of the QPAC2 Frame and control your button. The bin is only 286  
bytes but you need some extra S*Basic lines.

(It's on QLT CDv7i5 and probably the later ones.)

Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-16 Thread pjwitte

On 16/10/2016 17:14, Bob Spelten wrote:

Op Sun, 16 Oct 2016 12:11:10 +0200 schreef pjwitte :


On 14/10/2016 17:34, Bob Spelten wrote:
Op Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:18:31 +0200 schreef pjwitte 
:



Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the
various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any
other QPAC2 component?

Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the
button frame or any other Thing or component have a language
dependent name that has an affect on how the utility is accessed?
(Mere display information, such as configuration item labelling
etc, is not important in this context.)

Thanks in advance,


As far I can see from Viewing the 3 languages, these are the
differences:

 E  G   F
 Things Choses
 Button Bouton
 Exec   Exéc
 Wake   Réveil
 Pick   Choix
 Rjob
 Sysdef
 Files  Dateien Fichiers
 Jobs
 Channels   Kanäle  Canaux
 Hotkeys
 Hotjobs
 Button_Pick
 Button_Sleep   Button_Schlaf

The 4 keywords are the same for all 3.

Bob


Thanks for replies. Perhaps my question was unnecessary general. It
seems unlikely that calling Files for Dateien or Fichiers is going to
cause many problems. However Button_Sleep and Button Frame are Things
that may quite likely be used in a common programs and toolkits, and
therefore it matters what they are called.

Tobias suggests that in the German version both Button_Sleep and
Button_Schlaf will work. This might mean that Button_Sleep is the
default in all languages in addition to local. Or it might mean he has
two versions of Qpac2 loaded..

Please EXEP 'Things' ('Choses'?)and take a look to see what these
Things are called on your machine, especially if you have a
non-English version of QPAC2.

Tobias's suggestion does not work when I replace my ENG Qpac2 by the 
FRA version.

EXEP Things gives "not found", while EXEP Choses works.
The same is true for any of the other translated Thing names.

If you want to use BUTTON_SLEEP in a program you need to check for 
the Qpac2 version, or use something like Q_ERR_ON/_OFF to catch the 
error and try again with _SCHLAF.


Bob

There doesnt seem to be an easy way to check the Qpac2 version; at 
least nothing standard to determin the language. In SBASIC a heuristic 
approach may be the simplest:


100 IF HOT_TYPE("button_sleep") = 4 THEN
110  EXEP 'button_sleep'
120 ELSE : IF HOT_TYPE("button_schlaf") = 4 THEN
130  EXEP 'button_schlaf'
140 ELSE : IF HOT_TYPE("button_") = 4 THEN
150  EXEP 'button_'
160 ELSE: PRINT 'Not found'
170 END IF : END IF : END IF
180 :

The keyword HOT_TYPE is built into SMSQ/E and hot_rext, and returns 
err_nf if the named Thing is not present. What Id still like to know 
is what other button_'es there are out there. Anyone?


The Button Frame Thing appears to be called "Button Frame" in all 
languages. The sources are in among the SMSQ/E sources, although the 
binary is not part of the OS but comes with Qpac2. The Button Frame is 
also mentioned in the latest version of the SMSQ/E Guide. No mention 
there of language differences.


Per

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-16 Thread Tobias Fröschle

> Am 16.10.2016 um 17:14 schrieb Bob Spelten :
> 
> Op Sun, 16 Oct 2016 12:11:10 +0200 schreef pjwitte :
> 
>> On 14/10/2016 17:34, Bob Spelten wrote:
>>> Op Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:18:31 +0200 schreef pjwitte :
>>> 
 Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the
 various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any
 other QPAC2 component?
 
 Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the
 button frame or any other Thing or component have a language
 dependent name that has an affect on how the utility is accessed?
 (Mere display information, such as configuration item labelling
 etc, is not important in this context.)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
>>> As far I can see from Viewing the 3 languages, these are the
>>> differences:
>>> 
>>> E  G   F
>>> Things Choses
>>> Button Bouton
>>> Exec   Exéc
>>> Wake   Réveil
>>> Pick   Choix
>>> Rjob
>>> Sysdef
>>> Files  Dateien Fichiers
>>> Jobs
>>> Channels   Kanäle  Canaux
>>> Hotkeys
>>> Hotjobs
>>> Button_Pick
>>> Button_Sleep   Button_Schlaf
>>> 
>>> The 4 keywords are the same for all 3.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>> Thanks for replies. Perhaps my question was unnecessary general. It
>> seems unlikely that calling Files for Dateien or Fichiers is going to
>> cause many problems. However Button_Sleep and Button Frame are Things
>> that may quite likely be used in a common programs and toolkits, and
>> therefore it matters what they are called.
>> 
>> Tobias suggests that in the German version both Button_Sleep and
>> Button_Schlaf will work. This might mean that Button_Sleep is the
>> default in all languages in addition to local. Or it might mean he has
>> two versions of Qpac2 loaded..
>> 
>> Please EXEP 'Things' ('Choses'?)and take a look to see what these
>> Things are called on your machine, especially if you have a
>> non-English version of QPAC2.
>> 
> Tobias's suggestion does not work when I replace my ENG Qpac2 by the FRA 
> version.
> EXEP Things gives "not found", while EXEP Choses works.
> The same is true for any of the other translated Thing names.
> 
> If you want to use BUTTON_SLEEP in a program you need to check for the Qpac2 
> version, or use something like Q_ERR_ON/_OFF to catch the error and try again 
> with _SCHLAF.
> 
> Bob

Bob,

I checked this again and realized I seem to be loading a German QPAC2 + an 
extra Bsleep extension.

While QPAC2 provides the BUTTON_SCHLAF Thing, the BSLEEP file (says 
"Button_sleep V1.04) seems to provide a BUTTON_SLEEP Thing. Agreed that is not 
an ideal solution to load both Things, but at least it makes a lot of programs 
run that wouldn't properly otherwise. And the 1831 bytes wasted for the Bsleep 
extension is something I can really bear with with QPC set to 128MB memory...

Tobias

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-16 Thread Ralf Reköndt

Horrible.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Spelten"


If you want to use BUTTON_SLEEP in a program you need to check for the  
Qpac2 version, or use something like Q_ERR_ON/_OFF to catch the error and  
try again with _SCHLAF.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-16 Thread Bob Spelten

Op Sun, 16 Oct 2016 12:11:10 +0200 schreef pjwitte :


On 14/10/2016 17:34, Bob Spelten wrote:

Op Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:18:31 +0200 schreef pjwitte :


Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the
various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any
other QPAC2 component?

Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the
button frame or any other Thing or component have a language
dependent name that has an affect on how the utility is accessed?
(Mere display information, such as configuration item labelling
etc, is not important in this context.)

Thanks in advance,


As far I can see from Viewing the 3 languages, these are the
differences:

 E  G   F
 Things Choses
 Button Bouton
 Exec   Exéc
 Wake   Réveil
 Pick   Choix
 Rjob
 Sysdef
 Files  Dateien Fichiers
 Jobs
 Channels   Kanäle  Canaux
 Hotkeys
 Hotjobs
 Button_Pick
 Button_Sleep   Button_Schlaf

The 4 keywords are the same for all 3.

Bob


Thanks for replies. Perhaps my question was unnecessary general. It
seems unlikely that calling Files for Dateien or Fichiers is going to
cause many problems. However Button_Sleep and Button Frame are Things
that may quite likely be used in a common programs and toolkits, and
therefore it matters what they are called.

Tobias suggests that in the German version both Button_Sleep and
Button_Schlaf will work. This might mean that Button_Sleep is the
default in all languages in addition to local. Or it might mean he has
two versions of Qpac2 loaded..

Please EXEP 'Things' ('Choses'?)and take a look to see what these
Things are called on your machine, especially if you have a
non-English version of QPAC2.

Tobias's suggestion does not work when I replace my ENG Qpac2 by the FRA  
version.

EXEP Things gives "not found", while EXEP Choses works.
The same is true for any of the other translated Thing names.

If you want to use BUTTON_SLEEP in a program you need to check for the  
Qpac2 version, or use something like Q_ERR_ON/_OFF to catch the error and  
try again with _SCHLAF.


Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-16 Thread Ralf Reköndt
To be honest: I never use those creepy german versions, as it always gave 
problems.


- Original Message - 
From: "pjwitte"


Please EXEP 'Things' ('Choses'?)and take a look to see what these
Things are called on your machine, especially if you have a
non-English version of QPAC2. 


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-16 Thread pjwitte

On 14/10/2016 17:34, Bob Spelten wrote:

Op Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:18:31 +0200 schreef pjwitte :


Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the
various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any
other QPAC2 component?

Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the
button frame or any other Thing or component have a language
dependent name that has an affect on how the utility is accessed?
(Mere display information, such as configuration item labelling
etc, is not important in this context.)

Thanks in advance,


As far I can see from Viewing the 3 languages, these are the
differences:

 E  G   F
 Things Choses
 Button Bouton
 Exec   Exéc
 Wake   Réveil
 Pick   Choix
 Rjob
 Sysdef
 Files  Dateien Fichiers
 Jobs
 Channels   Kanäle  Canaux
 Hotkeys
 Hotjobs
 Button_Pick
 Button_Sleep   Button_Schlaf

The 4 keywords are the same for all 3.

Bob

Thanks for replies. Perhaps my question was unnecessary general. It 
seems unlikely that calling Files for Dateien or Fichiers is going to 
cause many problems. However Button_Sleep and Button Frame are Things 
that may quite likely be used in a common programs and toolkits, and 
therefore it matters what they are called.


Tobias suggests that in the German version both Button_Sleep and 
Button_Schlaf will work. This might mean that Button_Sleep is the 
default in all languages in addition to local. Or it might mean he has 
two versions of Qpac2 loaded..


Please EXEP 'Things' ('Choses'?)and take a look to see what these 
Things are called on your machine, especially if you have a 
non-English version of QPAC2.



Per
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-14 Thread Ralf Reköndt
I always thought so. QL language was always English, wasn't it? I wonder, 
how I would ever understand the lot of software and letters, if it wasn't 
so.


From: "Tobias Fröschle"

For some reason, my (German) QPC + QPAC2 installation has both a 
"Button_Schlaf" and a "Button_Sleep" thing.


I do, however, go with you, Ralf, that localization of Thing names isn't 
the brightest of ideas


Tobias



Am 14.10.2016 um 18:11 schrieb Ralf Reköndt :

I have never understand, why this was done. TT's programs always were 
genuine english, seems to be an idea from Jochen.


- Original Message - From: "Bob Spelten"

Op Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:18:31 +0200 schreef pjwitte :

Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the 
various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any other 
QPAC2 component?


Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the button 
frame or any other Thing or component have a language dependent name 
that has an affect on how the utility is accessed? (Mere display 
information, such as configuration item labelling etc, is not important 
in this context.)


Thanks in advance,


As far I can see from Viewing the 3 languages, these are the differences:

E  G   F
Things Choses
Button Bouton
Exec   Exéc
Wake   Réveil
Pick   Choix
Rjob
Sysdef
Files  Dateien Fichiers
Jobs
Channels   Kanäle  Canaux
Hotkeys
Hotjobs
Button_Pick
Button_Sleep   Button_Schlaf

The 4 keywords are the same for all 3.

Bob 


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-14 Thread Tobias Fröschle
For some reason, my (German) QPC + QPAC2 installation has both a 
"Button_Schlaf" and a "Button_Sleep" thing.

I do, however, go with you, Ralf, that localization of Thing names isn't the 
brightest of ideas

Tobias


> Am 14.10.2016 um 18:11 schrieb Ralf Reköndt :
> 
> I have never understand, why this was done. TT's programs always were genuine 
> english, seems to be an idea from Jochen.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Bob Spelten"
> 
> Op Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:18:31 +0200 schreef pjwitte :
> 
>> Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the various 
>> language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any other QPAC2 component?
>> 
>> Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the button frame 
>> or any other Thing or component have a language dependent name  that has an 
>> affect on how the utility is accessed? (Mere display  information, such as 
>> configuration item labelling etc, is not important  in this context.)
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
> As far I can see from Viewing the 3 languages, these are the differences:
> 
> E  G   F
> Things Choses
> Button Bouton
> Exec   Exéc
> Wake   Réveil
> Pick   Choix
> Rjob
> Sysdef
> Files  Dateien Fichiers
> Jobs
> Channels   Kanäle  Canaux
> Hotkeys
> Hotjobs
> Button_Pick
> Button_Sleep   Button_Schlaf
> 
> The 4 keywords are the same for all 3.
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-14 Thread Ralf Reköndt
I have never understand, why this was done. TT's programs always were 
genuine english, seems to be an idea from Jochen.


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Spelten"


Op Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:18:31 +0200 schreef pjwitte :

Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the 
various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any other 
QPAC2 component?


Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the button 
frame or any other Thing or component have a language dependent name  that 
has an affect on how the utility is accessed? (Mere display  information, 
such as configuration item labelling etc, is not important  in this 
context.)


Thanks in advance,


As far I can see from Viewing the 3 languages, these are the differences:

 E  G   F
 Things Choses
 Button Bouton
 Exec   Exéc
 Wake   Réveil
 Pick   Choix
 Rjob
 Sysdef
 Files  Dateien Fichiers
 Jobs
 Channels   Kanäle  Canaux
 Hotkeys
 Hotjobs
 Button_Pick
 Button_Sleep   Button_Schlaf

The 4 keywords are the same for all 3.

Bob 


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-14 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi Per,

AFAIR, there is no functional difference. The only differences are the 
thing/job names, which you should be wary of when using hotkeys.


HTH

Wolfgang

Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the
various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any other
QPAC2 component?

Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the button
frame or any other Thing or component have a language dependent name
that has an affect on how the utility is accessed? (Mere display
information, such as configuration item labelling etc, is not important
in this context.)

Thanks in advance,

Per
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-14 Thread Bob Spelten

Op Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:18:31 +0200 schreef pjwitte :

Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the  
various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any other  
QPAC2 component?


Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the button  
frame or any other Thing or component have a language dependent name  
that has an affect on how the utility is accessed? (Mere display  
information, such as configuration item labelling etc, is not important  
in this context.)


Thanks in advance,


As far I can see from Viewing the 3 languages, these are the differences:

 E  G   F
 Things Choses
 Button Bouton
 Exec   Exéc
 Wake   Réveil
 Pick   Choix
 Rjob
 Sysdef
 Files  Dateien Fichiers
 Jobs
 Channels   Kanäle  Canaux
 Hotkeys
 Hotjobs
 Button_Pick
 Button_Sleep   Button_Schlaf

The 4 keywords are the same for all 3.

Bob

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[Ql-Users] QPAC2 and Buttons

2016-10-14 Thread pjwitte
Could poeple please tell me what differences there are between the 
various language versions of the QPCA2 button utilities or any other 
QPAC2 component?


Starting with BUTTON_SLEEP = BUTTON_SCHLAF in German, does the button 
frame or any other Thing or component have a language dependent name 
that has an affect on how the utility is accessed? (Mere display 
information, such as configuration item labelling etc, is not 
important in this context.)


Thanks in advance,

Per
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