[QUAD-L] Bluetooth
Any blue tooth device which is on/off voice activated. Any ideas?
Re: [QUAD-L] Bluetooth
Not that I'm aware of... but hopefully one or more of our potential OTs may know of any recent discoveries Best Wishes In a message dated 1/24/2009 8:45:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, missl...@optonline.net writes: Any blue tooth device which is on/off voice activated. Any ideas? **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)
Re: [QUAD-L] Bluetooth
Someone was talking about a Bluetooth that would work with the computer, cell phone and landline phone. Are you having success with your earpiece? I am using a Plantronics eight hour but you have to push the phone unless she could train the phone somehow to answer, which I have not done yet. My phone keeps telling me it is too noisy.. I have a Sony Z 750a. I know Joan has figured out how to do. I have never gotten an adapter from RadioShack. I need to take her letter to RadioShack. My brother has my old computer with all my files . I just got a Bluetooth for my cell phone. Now I know I need a new handset for earpiece for my computer. I'm still having problems with Dragon Vista working with AOL and other programs. I did figure out that my brother purchased the wrong naturally speaking. He ordered preferred instead of professional. Is anyone else having problems with commands and using Dragon? I probably am doing something wrong. Any suggestions from other Dragon wizards and the Vista program. I get carried of mouse gridding all day long and moving the mouse with my cursor. I know I am computer slow. The Lunis from the knowbrainer website said I could train words on the professional version. XP works so much better with Dragon. He suggested using Windows Mail, which I have not figured out how to set up. I don't know the nation asking about what kind of server I have. I have always used Yahoo and AOL. It is frustrating to figure out. I had no luck with the Bush program on Vista. Dana **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)
Re: [QUAD-L] long term quads
For you other quads that have more than 25 years, I'm getting bone growths, some in lumps, sometimes points. I've had several removed and others are just left alone since they aren't harming anything. I have a large one growing on my left forearm. Probably a candidate for removal. There are pointy ones coming off my T2-L2 vertebrae. Not all of them but several in that area of my spine and when I'm forced straight, the x-ray shows them gouging the nerves. Are any of you having this problem? I truly hate having to take a lot of pain meds. Nobody wants to hear people in wheelchairs complain about pain when we already have the cool parking places. (jk) Thanks, john --- On Sat, 1/24/09, wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com wrote: From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bluetooth To: missl...@optonline.net, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 10:05 AM Not that I'm aware of... but hopefully one or more of our potential OTs may know of any recent discoveries Best Wishes In a message dated 1/24/2009 8:45:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, missl...@optonline.net writes: Any blue tooth device which is on/off voice activated. Any ideas? A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
Re: [QUAD-L] Bluetooth
Hi Dana, I was talking about my Plantronics Calisto Pro Bluetooth phone. I can use the earpiece/headset to switch between: * my landline and cell phone, or * landline and Dragon (and Windows/Yahoo audio/video communication, i.e., MSN Messenger, etc.), or even * cell phone and Dragon/computer (Only 2 at a time!) The Ability Catch -- with the Calisto you *do* need to have the ability to press a button near your ear to pick up a call... except with a cell phone with an auto answer function. But you also need to press and hold that button for approx 2-3 seconds to toggle between whichever 2 units it's operating with at the time. I'm a C5 and can easily reach my ear and press the button with my thumb. It takes some fine motor or steadiness and a bit of sensory ability to fully operate it independently. The button is small... so first you need to be able to find it with your thumb/finger/knuckle or whatever you would use. I suppose someone skilled at using a rubber-tipped pencil or stick could figure out how to do it, as well. After all, I know how resourceful we Q's can be!!! Once it's found, a push INward turns it on/off and toggles it between devices. Pressing and holding slightly upward or downward adjusts the volume accordingly. I've had this phone about a month now and still love it. Besides the Bluetooth functions I also like this phone because even without the earpiece I can answer it if its on my lap or a table or even while its in its charging cradle by pressing the speakerphone button. I hope the info about the button is helpful... it seems that was your most pressing issue (Awww, bad, I know!)... at least as Bluetooth headsets go. Best wishes! --Tod daa...@aol.com wrote: Someone was talking about a Bluetooth that would work with the computer, cell phone and landline phone. Are you having success with your earpiece? I am using a Plantronics eight hour but you have to push the phone unless she could train the phone somehow to answer, which I have not done yet. My phone keeps telling me it is too noisy.. I have a Sony Z 750a. I know Joan has figured out how to do. I have never gotten an adapter from RadioShack. I need to take her letter to RadioShack. My brother has my old computer with all my files . I just got a Bluetooth for my cell phone. Now I know I need a new handset for earpiece for my computer. I'm still having problems with Dragon Vista working with AOL and other programs. I did figure out that my brother purchased the wrong naturally speaking. He ordered preferred instead of professional. Is anyone else having problems with commands and using Dragon? I probably am doing something wrong. Any suggestions from other Dragon wizards and the Vista program. I get carried of mouse gridding all day long and moving the mouse with my cursor. I know I am computer slow. The Lunis from the knowbrainer website said I could train words on the professional version. XP works so much better with Dragon. He suggested using Windows Mail, which I have not figured out how to set up. I don't know the nation asking about what kind of server I have. I have always used Yahoo and AOL. It is frustrating to figure out. I had no luck with the Bush program on Vista. Dana
[QUAD-L] SCS Spinal Cord Stimulation
Anyone here ever try using a SCS Spinal Cord Stimulator? They implant small electrodes into the spinal cord. I was talking to a pain doc I met by chance and he asked if I've tried one. He said they worked well for phantom pains sand other long term causes of pain. Greg
Re: [QUAD-L] SCS Spinal Cord Stimulation
FES and SCS is nothing new. In the past, there were failures is the procedure, but so much more has been learn and the medical industry continues to learn and make advancements. Does your doctor feel that you might be a good candidate for such a procedure? Best Wishes In a message dated 1/24/2009 1:54:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, g...@eskimo.com writes: Anyone here ever try using a SCS Spinal Cord Stimulator? They implant small electrodes into the spinal cord. I was talking to a pain doc I met by chance and he asked if I’ve tried one. He said they worked well for phantom pains sand other long term causes of pain. Greg **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)
Re: [QUAD-L] Bluetooth
Elizabeth Dana -- Sorry this got sent to the wrong person... I didn't see Elizabeth's original post and, Dana, I didn't notice that your post was a (Re: ) reply to hers since the original text was gone. Oh well... I'm hoping it got to the list. I haven't seen it yet but if it didn't THIS one should (I hope). Either way, to answer the Original question, I don't know of any voice-actived Bluetooth devices but now that it's on my mind I plan on searching. I can see where it might be useful for us Q folks, but also difficult to accurately control in that something could be said in a normal conversation that might launch a phone call or just the opposite, hang up on someone in the middle of an emergency phone call. Just imagination: (a conversation with your doctor) Do you think I should call my wheelchair manufacturer? And suddenly your cell phone starts making a call to Wheelchair, that infamous member of the Quad-List! Ooops! Best to All, --Tod Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net wrote: Hi Dana, I was talking about my Plantronics Calisto Pro Bluetooth phone. I can use the earpiece/headset to switch between: * my landline and cell phone, or * landline and Dragon (and Windows/Yahoo audio/video communication, i.e., MSN Messenger, etc.), or even * cell phone and Dragon/computer (Only 2 at a time!) The Ability Catch -- with the Calisto you *do* need to have the ability to press a button near your ear to pick up a call... except with a cell phone with an auto answer function. But you also need to press and hold that button for approx 2-3 seconds to toggle between whichever 2 units it's operating with at the time. I'm a C5 and can easily reach my ear and press the button with my thumb. It takes some fine motor or steadiness and a bit of sensory ability to fully operate it independently. The button is small... so first you need to be able to find it with your thumb/finger/knuckle or whatever you would use. I suppose someone skilled at using a rubber-tipped pencil or stick could figure out how to do it, as well. After all, I know how resourceful we Q's can be!!! Once it's found, a push INward turns it on/off and toggles it between devices. Pressing and holding slightly upward or downward adjusts the volume accordingly. I've had this phone about a month now and still love it. Besides the Bluetooth functions I also like this phone because even without the earpiece I can answer it if its on my lap or a table or even while its in its charging cradle by pressing the speakerphone button. I hope the info about the button is helpful... it seems that was your most pressing issue (Awww, bad, I know!)... at least as Bluetooth headsets go. Best wishes! --Tod daa...@aol.com wrote: Someone was talking about a Bluetooth that would work with the computer, cell phone and landline phone. Are you having success with your earpiece? I am using a Plantronics eight hour but you have to push the phone unless she could train the phone somehow to answer, which I have not done yet. My phone keeps telling me it is too noisy.. I have a Sony Z 750a. I know Joan has figured out how to do. I have never gotten an adapter from RadioShack. I need to take her letter to RadioShack. My brother has my old computer with all my files . I just got a Bluetooth for my cell phone. Now I know I need a new handset for earpiece for my computer. I'm still having problems with Dragon Vista working with AOL and other programs. I did figure out that my brother purchased the wrong naturally speaking. He ordered preferred instead of professional. Is anyone else having problems with commands and using Dragon? I probably am doing something wrong. Any suggestions from other Dragon wizards and the Vista program. I get carried of mouse gridding all day long and moving the mouse with my cursor. I know I am computer slow. The Lunis from the knowbrainer website said I could train words on the professional version. XP works so much better with Dragon. He suggested using Windows Mail, which I have not figured out how to set up. I don't know the nation asking about what kind of server I have. I have always used Yahoo and AOL. It is frustrating to figure out. I had no luck with the Bush program on Vista. Dana
[QUAD-L] Bluetooth and limited function use
Tod, you have expose my one true weakness, cellular communication. But I'm learning. (lol) Best Wishes In a message dated 1/24/2009 2:56:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, sant...@cox.net writes: Elizabeth Dana -- Sorry this got sent to the wrong person... I didn't see Elizabeth's original post and, Dana, I didn't notice that your post was a (Re: ) reply to hers since the original text was gone. Oh well... I'm hoping it got to the list. I haven't seen it yet but if it didn't THIS one should (I hope). Either way, to answer the Original question, I don't know of any voice-actived Bluetooth devices but now that it's on my mind I plan on searching. I can see where it might be useful for us Q folks, but also difficult to accurately control in that something could be said in a normal conversation that might launch a phone call or just the opposite, hang up on someone in the middle of an emergency phone call. Just imagination: (a conversation with your doctor) Do you think I should call my wheelchair manufacturer? And suddenly your cell phone starts making a call to Wheelchair, that infamous member of the Quad-List! Ooops! Best to All, --Tod Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net wrote: Hi Dana, I was talking about my Plantronics Calisto Pro Bluetooth phone. I can use the earpiece/headset to switch between: * my landline and cell phone, or * landline and Dragon (and Windows/Yahoo audio/video communication, i.e., MSN Messenger, etc.), or even * cell phone and Dragon/computer (Only 2 at a time!) The Ability Catch -- with the Calisto you *do* need to have the ability to press a button near your ear to pick up a call... except with a cell phone with an auto answer function. But you also need to press and hold that button for approx 2-3 seconds to toggle between whichever 2 units it's operating with at the time. I'm a C5 and can easily reach my ear and press the button with my thumb. It takes some fine motor or steadiness and a bit of sensory ability to fully operate it independently. The button is small... so first you need to be able to find it with your thumb/finger/knuckle or whatever you would use. I suppose someone skilled at using a rubber-tipped pencil or stick could figure out how to do it, as well. After all, I know how resourceful we Q's can be!!! Once it's found, a push INward turns it on/off and toggles it between devices. Pressing and holding slightly upward or downward adjusts the volume accordingly. I've had this phone about a month now and still love it. Besides the Bluetooth functions I also like this phone because even without the earpiece I can answer it if its on my lap or a table or even while its in its charging cradle by pressing the speakerphone button. I hope the info about the button is helpful... it seems that was your most pressing issue (Awww, bad, I know!)... at least as Bluetooth headsets go. Best wishes! --Tod daa...@aol.com wrote: Someone was talking about a Bluetooth that would work with the computer, cell phone and landline phone. Are you having success with your earpiece? I am using a Plantronics eight hour but you have to push the phone unless she could train the phone somehow to answer, which I have not done yet. My phone keeps telling me it is too noisy.. I have a Sony Z 750a. I know Joan has figured out how to do. I have never gotten an adapter from RadioShack. I need to take her letter to RadioShack. My brother has my old computer with all my files . I just got a Bluetooth for my cell phone. Now I know I need a new handset for earpiece for my computer. I'm still having problems with Dragon Vista working with AOL and other programs. I did figure out that my brother purchased the wrong naturally speaking. He ordered preferred instead of professional. Is anyone else having problems with commands and using Dragon? I probably am doing something wrong. Any suggestions from other Dragon wizards and the Vista program. I get carried of mouse gridding all day long and moving the mouse with my cursor. I know I am computer slow. The Lunis from the knowbrainer website said I could train words on the professional version. XP works so much better with Dragon. He suggested using Windows Mail, which I have not figured out how to set up. I don't know the nation asking about what kind of server I have. I have always used Yahoo and AOL. It is frustrating to figure out. I had no luck with the Bush program on Vista. Dana **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)
[QUAD-L] Vista
For those of us using Vista, I see we are going to be obsolete. That didn't take long J. The new windows 7 will have voice recognition however, so hopefully within a year we will get to try something new. Many comments have mentioned that the windows 7 will make Dragon obsolete. I prefer Vista to Dragon-guess I'm just a cheapskate. Dana, you mentioned mouse gridding-With Vista for general commands you can just say show numbers and all clickable options are highlighted. Are there problems? What voice recognition method doesn't have problems? I think it's the nature of the beast. Frustrating, sometimes, but oh so worthwhile for me. I think back to 18 years ago, and I am very glad that I live in this century with the technology that is available today. Joan
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Love Those Seinfield Shows
That explains why don't know it. I don't have use of my arms, so they never used the acronym around me. Thanks, Quadius On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:13 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: Balanced Forearm Orthosis (BFO), is a device used in rehab. PT or OT may use them to create Zero Gravity on ones arms , using rubber bands as counter tension on the BFO. With Zero weight on the fore limbs, the patient can begin the process of exercise to strengthen muscles. By posting BOF, I was hoping that one of the OT or PT would correct me with... well you know where I'm going, lol. Did you have any exposure to BFO in rehab? Best Wishes In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:42:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: It really would have been great with cell phones. I never really thought about that aspect of the show. I read the story about the Las Vegas scooters. I guess that they're willing to pay for them, but then again everyone thinks they're disabled. Panhandling can be lucrative in the right spots. I just read in my local paper that street performers are looking to rent a couch down here during the Super Bowl. I could make some extra cash, but I don't want somebody I don't know staying in my house. This is completely unrelated, but what are BOFs? I happened to see that acronym in one of your previous e-mails and someone else asked. I've been in his chair for 13 1/2 years and I've never heard of that acronym. Quadius On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:34 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: Its a shame that the show ended before cell phones... It would have been so good. Have you heard about those lazy butts who can afford to rent mobility scooters in Las Vegas and dealers willing to rent them for $40 bucks a day without asking questions. or the California street beggars that are using hospital grade wheelchairs to beg in with cups. Some can make a couple hundred dollars a day doing this.. Kewl, eh? BestWishes In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:27:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access -- *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62 * -- Quadius C2-3 incomplete 13 years post injury -- *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=DecemailfooterNO62 * -- Quadius C2-3 incomplete 13 years post injury
Re: [QUAD-L] Thank-you Obama: FDA Approves Stem Cell Trials for SCI
I must say I smiled at the mention of Lou Dobbs. When I was hospitalized while back, the first time for a medical reason in more than 5 1/2 years, I watched a lot of CNN. I always thought Dobbs was a raving conservative, but I think he just as firm convictions. I wanted to send him an e-mail that said I would be more inclined to believe that you are a populist independent if you didn't have to remind us six or seven times each show that you are a populist independent. Take care of yourself, Quadius On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net wrote: Oh, yeah... No Bias, No Bull. I forgot about that. I have to turn it down during Lou Dobbs (unless my BP is especially low that day!) and I don't always turn it back up in time. As for embyonic stem cell research, I can't seem to put it into a context of is it right or wrong ... Not all science meets with everyone's definition of ethical. But science, in this case, is using spare embryos that ARE going to be incinerated as biohazardous waste and taking a chance at putting them to good use. Some people feel genetically modified food is unethical and that the results of GM pollen/nectar are killing off monarch butterflies. However, we DO need food. Best wishes Good night! --Tod Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote: You were quite correct that Obama is not to be credited with this particular approval, but I think federal money will be coming next week or shortly thereafter. As for me, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I know there are others on here who don't agree with embryonic stem cell research, but I for one am glad things are changing. As for me, CNN is my secondary source in my house. I usually watch MSNBC. It's definitely more left in the evening, but I often find that I get much more out of the shows than I do anywhere else. If I were to choose a CNN show I like to watch, it would be Campbell Brown's. Just my opinion. Quadius On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net wrote: Hey Bob -- I *LOVE* politics! CNN is a fixture at my house, not a channel to choose. Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room is as attention-grabbing, to me, as porn is to many (LOL). I don't mind discussing it here. And, as a science teacher, too, I can't wait 'til Obama erases some of the Bush stranglehold on science being published without presidential editing. Best wishes! --Tod -- Quadius C2-3 incomplete 13 years post injury
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Love Those Seinfield Shows
The BFO is now known as the MAS, Mobile Arm Support. I have one that attaches to my wheelchair that I use for task work such as reading a magazine, feeding myself, or any other work that requires the use of my arm. It can be adjusted up, down, or side to side, steel with the use of rubber bands. Naomi C4 quadriplegicdue to Transverse Myelitis since July 2, 2005 In a message dated 1/23/2009 9:13:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wheelch...@aol.com writes: Balanced Forearm Orthosis (BFO), is a device used in rehab. PT or OT may use them to create Zero Gravity on ones arms , using rubber bands as counter tension on the BFO. With Zero weight on the fore limbs, the patient can begin the process of exercise to strengthen muscles. By posting BOF, I was hoping that one of the OT or PT would correct me with... well you know where I'm going, lol. Did you have any exposure to BFO in rehab? Best Wishes In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:42:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: It really would have been great with cell phones. I never really thought about that aspect of the show. I read the story about the Las Vegas scooters. I guess that they're willing to pay for them, but then again everyone thinks they're disabled. Panhandling can be lucrative in the right spots. I just read in my local paper that street performers are looking to rent a couch down here during the Super Bowl. I could make some extra cash, but I don't want somebody I don't know staying in my house. This is completely unrelated, but what are BOFs? I happened to see that acronym in one of your previous e-mails and someone else asked. I've been in his chair for 13 1/2 years and I've never heard of that acronym. Quadius On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:34 PM, _wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) wrote: Its a shame that the show ended before cell phones... It would have been so good. Have you heard about those lazy butts who can afford to rent mobility scooters in Las Vegas and dealers willing to rent them for $40 bucks a day without asking questions. or the California street beggars that are using hospital grade wheelchairs to beg in with cups. Some can make a couple hundred dollars a day doing this.. Kewl, eh? BestWishes In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:27:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, _quad...@gmail.com_ (mailto:quad...@gmail.com) writes: This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www. freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=DecemailfooterNO6 2) -- Quadius C2-3 incomplete 13 years post injury A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www .freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=DecemailfooterNO 62) **From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0023)
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Love Those Seinfield Shows
Thank You Naomi. Was that a OT or PT item, in your case? Once again, in your case, how does it work for you. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/24/2009 4:38:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, LadyNotes writes: The BFO is now known as the MAS, Mobile Arm Support. I have one that attaches to my wheelchair that I use for task work such as reading a magazine, feeding myself, or any other work that requires the use of my arm. It can be adjusted up, down, or side to side, steel with the use of rubber bands. Naomi C4 quadriplegicdue to Transverse Myelitis since July 2, 2005 In a message dated 1/23/2009 9:13:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wheelch...@aol.com writes: Balanced Forearm Orthosis (BFO), is a device used in rehab. PT or OT may use them to create Zero Gravity on ones arms , using rubber bands as counter tension on the BFO. With Zero weight on the fore limbs, the patient can begin the process of exercise to strengthen muscles. By posting BOF, I was hoping that one of the OT or PT would correct me with... well you know where I'm going, lol. Did you have any exposure to BFO in rehab? Best Wishes In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:42:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: It really would have been great with cell phones. I never really thought about that aspect of the show. I read the story about the Las Vegas scooters. I guess that they're willing to pay for them, but then again everyone thinks they're disabled. Panhandling can be lucrative in the right spots. I just read in my local paper that street performers are looking to rent a couch down here during the Super Bowl. I could make some extra cash, but I don't want somebody I don't know staying in my house. This is completely unrelated, but what are BOFs? I happened to see that acronym in one of your previous e-mails and someone else asked. I've been in his chair for 13 1/2 years and I've never heard of that acronym. Quadius On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:34 PM, _wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) wrote: Its a shame that the show ended before cell phones... It would have been so good. Have you heard about those lazy butts who can afford to rent mobility scooters in Las Vegas and dealers willing to rent them for $40 bucks a day without asking questions. or the California street beggars that are using hospital grade wheelchairs to beg in with cups. Some can make a couple hundred dollars a day doing this.. Kewl, eh? BestWishes In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:27:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, _quad...@gmail.com_ (mailto:quad...@gmail.com) writes: This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www. freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=DecemailfooterNO6 2) -- Quadius C2-3 incomplete 13 years post injury A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See yours in just 2 easy steps!_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www .freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=DecemailfooterNO 62) From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the _latest news_ (http://aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0023) . **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)
Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
Yeah.
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor
vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on
them) out like candy. If you have white hair -- eligible!
The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually
enforced or not. Unfortunately usually not.
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are
also giving driver's *licenses* out to people who can barely think yet not
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and
therefore cause many accidents. The winters here are great except the
population doubles between October and May or somewhere around there!
Therefore the traffic doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who
seem not to even know where they are let alone get back to their car and be
on the road! Scary!
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state
and my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to
be a law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I
can't remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree! At a
certain age, reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people
should not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to
themselves.
Lori
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the
disabled spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to
take it disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those
individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp
access.
There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so
that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving
around looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in
them.
Quadius
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:
Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable to
get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.
Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and
policemen will not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked
them to, as they helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).
One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant
about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a
policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other
handicap spots available. Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology,
don't get me started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him
the right to park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).
Another guy with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being
+300lbs) actually said, you handicapped people think you're so special. I
could go on. I was never anything but respectful in all encounters, but
what I usually got in return was far, far from it. I guess that reflects
the type of people that would park in a space that clearly isn't one.
--
*From:* wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
*To:* kkba...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
*Cc:* jco...@postandcourier.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
*Subject:* [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the
National Debt, in just under 3 years.
Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
Let's get the program in gear!
Best Wishes
W
In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/
Bill targets handicapped parking violators
BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
The Post and Courier
Monday, January 19, 2009
Special Section:
Watchdog
People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park in
the striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And confusion abounds
over who is responsible for catching violators.
There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap placards, parking
in spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not entitled to,
said Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.
Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats,
introduced a bill last week to create more accountability in the process of
acquiring a placard. The state Senate already has passed the legislation
twice, but the bill stalled in the House both times, Sheheen said.
Angela Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic chapter of
the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, said record keeping is part of the
problem.
There's a disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the physician who
writes the prescription (for the
Re: [QUAD-L] Occupational Therapist vs Physical Therapist........
Forgot to send this to the group instead of one person: All of my experiences in rehab and then going to outpatient rehab after I came home -- have been better with PTs than OTs by far. This was a recent topic not too long ago here and I remember writing that here on the list then too. In my experience, all the OTs wanted to put everyone with a spinal cord injury into the same box or even into the same disability box as other disabilities. By that I mean that if a certain gadget or gizmo works for so and so -- then it should work for everyone. All of mine were also very snooty and they KNEW unequivocally what was best. On the other hand all of my PTs were great! I was in rehab three months and then went to outpatient rehab for probably three months also. This was 28 years ago so times have changed and experiences are all different. I say 28 years because I was in the hospital (before in-house rehab hospital) for nine months. In case you notice that my signature below says 29 years. Lori Michaelson Age - 44 C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post Tucson, AZ On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote: Some of the issues you raised here John are specifically why a well-rounded team approach should be used in all spinal cord injured patients. Sadly that is impractical given all of the problems with insurance in this country. I didn't have the opportunity to go to one of the venerated rehabilitation centers, but the VA hospital in Tampa offered a pretty good rehab. I had the use of KTs, PTs, OTs, psychiatrists, social workers, and recreational therapist. Everyone should have the opportunity to enjoy the services. Maybe one day we'll get to the point where everyone can be treated the same. Q On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:50 PM, John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com wrote: As confusing as this may sound, you can have either an OT or a PT and one can be better than the other purely from experience. Never judge them by which one you like the best. While I have the attention of so many pro's here, I'd like to mention how critical psychiatric therapy can be for the traumatic quads and paras. It isn't fair to many of them to have to answer questions of tremendous importance when they can't get their mind around not walking again. I feel the psychologist might be a great help in determining the patients ability to help in their treatment as well as helping them to move on more quickly in positive directions. I've found that many OTs and PTs are far more educated than when I became a quad. Often doctors do not know what autonomic dysreflexia is and do not spot signs of the onset of seizures. I guess if doctors are going to be dumber, the rest of the medical community better get smart fast. That is the best I can do. I'm obviously in more pain than I thought I'd be. all the best, john -- On *Thu, 1/22/09, Tara Fettes tarafette...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Tara Fettes tarafette...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Occupational Therapist vs Physical Therapist To: wheelch...@aol.com, imsweet1...@hotmail.com, tiffany51...@yahoo.com, dav...@aol.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 6:00 PM hi all, my name is tara and i too am a student with the same group. the difference with me is that i've done PT the past 15 years and now am trading sides to OT. Why you may ask? #1 is the stress to my body, just wont be able to do for 35 more years or more.(since retirement is getting older) some differences: PT is now a doctorate program. OT is now a master's program. they say that PT gets you there, and OT give you something to do once your there. as far as what services are best, it really depends on what your problem is and even then, all therapists have some specialty so you need to make sure they have experience with your issue, more than just what they learned in theory. both do wheelchairs, however if you need custom, you are best with a RESNA certified ATP (assistive technology provider) -that's an extra exam and credentials either may obtain. since i am new to this i dont know if it posted to everyone. please help. Tara -- *From:* wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com *To:* imsweet1...@hotmail.com; tiffany51...@yahoo.com; dav...@aol.com *Cc:* quad-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:07:24 PM *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Occupational Therapist vs Physical Therapist Thank You for your candidate reply and no argument from me as how you explained your positive goal for your clients when you graduate. One question I've always had is in a perfect world a client in need would have the service of both an OT or PT. However in the present economy, not all clients are faced with the perfect world. That being the case, which is more important? The services of an Occupational Therapist or that of a Physical Therapist? I realize this is a
Re: [QUAD-L] Occupational Therapist vs Physical Therapist........
Spinal Cord Injury, didn't get a lot of attention until the Korean War and returning injured soldiers. Methodist Hospital, in Indianapolis, IN developed the 1st Spinal Cord Injury Unit. Today, there is so much more by comparison. The Miami Project, Shepard Hospital, Kessler Hospital, Rehab Institute of Chicago, Craig Hospital and so many more clinics serving those with Neuro Injuries. OTs, PTs, RTs and nurses are getting better with knowledge and training. The sad thing is serious neuro injuries continue to occur and test the limits of our medical expertise. The future is promising and I hope that all of us continue to learn. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/24/2009 6:09:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, lorilivin...@gmail.com writes: Forgot to send this to the group instead of one person: All of my experiences in rehab and then going to outpatient rehab after I came home -- have been better with PTs than OTs by far. This was a recent topic not too long ago here and I remember writing that here on the list then too. In my experience, all the OTs wanted to put everyone with a spinal cord injury into the same box or even into the same disability box as other disabilities. By that I mean that if a certain gadget or gizmo works for so and so -- then it should work for everyone. All of mine were also very snooty and they KNEW unequivocally what was best. On the other hand all of my PTs were great! I was in rehab three months and then went to outpatient rehab for probably three months also. This was 28 years ago so times have changed and experiences are all different. I say 28 years because I was in the hospital (before in-house rehab hospital) for nine months. In case you notice that my signature below says 29 years. Lori Michaelson Age - 44 /5 complete quad, 29 years post Tucson, AZ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)
Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
Hey guys,
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in
the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I
pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches
from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten
minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time
and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if they block
all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it back into
the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him outside. I
later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was laughing about
the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it again. Soin
short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so
dirtbags will continue to park
there. The next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a
friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.
Ron c7
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor vehicles
gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on them) out
like candy. If you have white hair -- eligible!
The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually enforced
or not. Unfortunately usually not.
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are
also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and therefore
cause many accidents. The winters here are great except the population doubles
between October and May or somewhere around there! Therefore the traffic
doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road! Scary!
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state and
my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to be a
law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't
remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree! At a certain age,
reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be
on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.
Lori
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled
spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it
disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals who drive
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.
There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that
my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around
looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them.
Quadius
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:
Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area. Even
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).
One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about
her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had
told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots
available. Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, don't get me
started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him the right to
park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site). Another guy
with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) actually
said, you handicapped people think you're so special. I could go on. I was
never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I usually got in
return was far, far from it. I guess that reflects the type of people that
would park in a space that clearly isn't one.
From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
To: kkba...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jco...@postandcourier.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the National
Debt, in just under 3 years.
Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
Let's get the program in gear!
Best Wishes
W
In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
Hey Ron, are you sure that it wasn't another cop as in the Blue Code?
His Chief might have handled it differently, but I can only guess
Best Wishes
In a message dated 1/24/2009 9:16:19 P.M. Central Standard Time,
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:
Hey guys,
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in
the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I
pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches
from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob.
Ten minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the
time and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if they
block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it back
into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him
outside. I later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was
laughing
about the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it again.
Soin short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off
sections so dirtbags will continue to park there. The next time this happens I
wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar
bike, then maybe he will learn.
Ron c7
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor
vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on
them)
out like candy. If you have white hair -- eligible!
The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually
enforced or not. Unfortunately usually not.
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are
also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and
therefore
cause many accidents. The winters here are great except the population
doubles between October and May or somewhere around there! Therefore the
traffic
doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road! Scary!
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state
and my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to
be a law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I
can't remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree! At a certain
age, reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should
not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to
themselves.
Lori
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius _quad...@gmail.com_
(mailto:quad...@gmail.com) wrote:
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the
disabled spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take
it
disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals who
drive
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.
There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so
that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving
around looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in
them.
Quadius
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn _kult...@yahoo.com_
(mailto:kult...@yahoo.com) wrote:
Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get
into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area. Even
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).
One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant
about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman
had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots
available. Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, don't get me
started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him the right to
park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site). Another guy
with
a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) actually
said, you handicapped people think you're so special. I could go on. I
was
never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I usually got in
return was far, far from it. I guess that reflects the type of people that
would park in a space that clearly isn't one.
From: _wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com)
_wheelch...@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com)
To: _kkba...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:kkba...@yahoo.com) ;
Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
i guess at least i did something about the ignorant self centered fool.If
everybody with vans called the cops something would eventually change.
ron c7
--- On Sat, 1/24/09, wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com wrote:
From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 9:35 PM
Hey Ron, are you sure that it wasn't another cop as in the Blue Code?
His Chief might have handled it differently, but I can only guess
Best Wishes
In a message dated 1/24/2009 9:16:19 P.M. Central Standard Time,
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:
Hey guys,
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in
the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I
pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches
from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten
minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time
and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if they block
all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it back into
the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him outside. I
later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was laughing about
the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it again. Soin
short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so
dirtbags will continue to park
there. The next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a
friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.
Ron c7
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor vehicles
gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on them) out
like candy. If you have white hair -- eligible!
The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually enforced
or not. Unfortunately usually not.
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are
also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and therefore
cause many accidents. The winters here are great except the population doubles
between October and May or somewhere around there! Therefore the traffic
doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road! Scary!
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state and
my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to be a
law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't
remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree! At a certain age,
reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be
on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.
Lori
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled
spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it
disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals who drive
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.
There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that
my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around
looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them.
Quadius
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:
Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area. Even
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).
One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about
her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had
told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots
available. Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, don't get me
started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him the right to
park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site). Another guy
with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) actually
said, you handicapped people think you're so special. I could go on. I was
never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I usually got in
return was far, far from it. I guess that reflects the type of people that
Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
no, guarantee i'd b on the horn, they'd thought it was a biker rally...normal
body people suk, (if they want 2 b included)
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: wheelch...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
Hey Ron, are you sure that it wasn't another cop as in the Blue Code?
His Chief might have handled it differently, but I can only guess
Best Wishes
In a message dated 1/24/2009 9:16:19 P.M. Central Standard Time,
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:
Hey guys,
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that
happenned to me thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle
was parked in the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they
have. I pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6
inches from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the
prob. Ten minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all
the time and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if
they block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it
back into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him
outside. I later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was
laughing about the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it
again. Soin short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined
off sections so dirtbags will continue to park there. The next time this
happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to kick over the
20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.
Ron c7
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of
motor vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias
on them) out like candy. If you have white hair -- eligible!
The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are
actually enforced or not. Unfortunately usually not.
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and
they are also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet
not recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and
therefore cause many accidents. The winters here are great except the
population doubles between October and May or somewhere around there!
Therefore the traffic doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who
seem not to even know where they are let alone get back to their car and be on
the road! Scary!
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New
York state and my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There
ought to be a law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of
xx!!! I can't remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree! At a
certain age, reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people
should not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to
themselves.
Lori
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in
the disabled spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to
take it disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals
who drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.
There are those occasions where I do need to park in an
accessible spot so that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels
like to be driving around looking for a parking place while nondisabled people
are ensconced in them.
Quadius
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been
unable to get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access
area. Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and
policemen will not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them
to, as they helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).
One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned
was adamant about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a
policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other
handicap spots available. Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology,
don't get me started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him
the right to park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).
Another guy with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being
+300lbs) actually said, you handicapped people think you're so special. I
could go on. I was never anything
Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
Ron -- Maybe a quick conference with an attorney will tell you if the police must file a report and/or citation. If so, filing a suit alleging the police officer did not fulfill his duties might be the only way to get their attention and force them to enforce. Maybe there *is* a certain amount of discretion allowed by the responding officer ... like the Harly was mostly in a parking spot but protuding into the stripes they can forgive. On the other hand, in some places just parking with your tires -ON- the line between spaces will get you a citation. I know in any accident you should always demand that citation is issued... that way there's a formal record. Same should be done with parking violations... the Harley rider and Officer can then explain to a judge why a fine should be waived!! It's an unfortunate reality -- Using The Law is the only *real* recourse we have... without getting cited ourselves. Best to All, --Tod RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hey guys, I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if they block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it back into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him outside. I later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was laughing about the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it again. Soin short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so dirtbags will continue to park there. The next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn. Ron c7 Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on them) out like candy. If you have white hair -- eligible! The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually enforced or not. Unfortunately usually not. Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and therefore cause many accidents. The winters here are great except the population doubles between October and May or somewhere around there! Therefore the traffic doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road! Scary! I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state and my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to be a law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree! At a certain age, reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves. Lori On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote: This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for those individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access. There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them. Quadius On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote: Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area. Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down). One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots available. Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, don't get me started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease,
