[RBW] Re: How much do you carry on your S24O?
I too use a tent footprint, and I wouldn't be without it; saves the tent floor from getting holes in it. Me too. Even then sometimes I have to trample the ground thoroughly to break all the sharp sticks, I also skip a pillow. After removing the sleeping bag from the compression sack, I stuff various pieces of clothing into the compression sack. Punch it a bit here and there for shaping, and that works well for me I bring a pillow case for the same purpose. I carry a warm synthetic down jacket, which is very soft, and I stuff it in the pillow case. You can ditch the stove and fuel, then pick up some food near your camp. I find that eating bagels, nuts, fruit, turkey jerky, milk, etc. is more relaxing than having to cook and clean up. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:09:21 AM UTC-6, Tom Virgil wrote: I am not interested in fern elves who sleep under leaves or those who can build a house at the campsite from available materials What is a nominal weight? With everything I could want, I am coming in at +22 pounds. I am trying to pare that away. If I were to take everything, it would include,,, Sleeping bag Sleeping bag liner Compression Sack Pillow Pad Tent Tent Footprint French Press Titanium cup Stove Fuel bottle Cooking pot Utensils bucket camp suds towel sacks egg holder bottles and a few other things for breakfast, camp clothes. Having accumulated all of this from backpacking, I am now figuring out where to pare down. I have been practicing with Sam and the weight. Best regards, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Santa Cruz Mountains S24O - Monday (yes!) Sept. 2nd.
I'm fond of New Brighton Beach, probably because of its excellent proximity to Gayles. shudder I had a bad experience there. I broke my rear derailleur within a few miles of the campground after a long day of touring. I finally managed to get myself to the entrance at about 1:30 am, whereupon I discovered I did not have the correct bills to pay for camping. I scrounged together some change and small bills to come up with the sum I owed; then I put the money in one of the envelopes, but because of all the coins, the envelope would not fit in the slot. No matter I thought, I'll just come back in the morning and hand over the envelope. By the time I got my tent setup, ate dinner, and showered it was 3am. I slept soundly, and at 8:30 am I got up to visit the restroom. On my way there, a ranger intercepted me. He harangued me for not paying, even though I told him that I tried to pay, and I showed him the envelope. I also told him about my bike troubles and that I needed to get my biked fixed at a local shop. I was thinking that maybe I would take a rest day to get my bike fixed and do laundry, so I asked the ranger if the campground allowed hiker/biker's to stay more than one night. He responded, You won't be staying here tonight. Checkout is at 9am, and you need to be gone by then. I told him I would pack up my stuff immediately, but that I had never gotten packed up in less than an hour before. He responded, You have to be out of here by 9am. I went to the bathroom, and then I scrambled to get my stuff packed up. I packed up in record time, and I limped out of the campground on my broken bike at 9:15 am. I never had any problems at any other campground. The hosts and rangers at the other campgrounds I stayed at were always exceptionally nice, and they really helped out touring cyclists. The mechanics at the Family Cycling Center offset the ranger's rudeness with their kindness, so my spirits lifted again. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:42:04 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: Happy birthday! Possible camping spots: I'm fond of New Brighton Beach, probably because of its excellent proximity to Gayles. Is Little Basin too far? I've been curious about camping there. And I hear that while the road from Highway 236 to Little Basin is paved, there is a non-paved bikeable exit if you continue on; it takes you to Empire Grade. http://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/little-basin-and-beyond/ It's possible, I think, to camp guerrilla on Waddell Creek. I don't recommend it on Labor Day Weekend, though; too busy. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.netjavascript: wrote: Hello Friends, I'm planning a birthday celebration S24O campout for Monday Sept. 2nd. and would love some company. The location is not set in stone and I'm open to suggestions. Mixed terrain riding is welcome and desired. I live near the summit of Highway 17 (Redwood Estates) and I work in Scotts Valley. I'm planning to ride somewhere within a couple or three hours of home late Monday afternoon and then ride from the camp to work on Tuesday morning. A few possible camp locations that come to mind: - Castle Rock State Park hiker/biker campground (but I've done that twice now, so somewhere new is preferred) - I hear that there's a campground between Big Basin and Butano parks that's bike accessible - Niscene Marks park in Aptos has a campground that might be suitable - ...and I'm also open to guerrilla camping: Wilder Ranch? Other options? I know the Monday of Labor Day weekend is probably not the best timing for most, but it's what works for me, so that's when I'm going. :-) Let me know if you're interested in joining me! cheers, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Santa Cruz Mountains S24O - Monday (yes!) Sept. 2nd.
I'm fond of New Brighton Beach, probably because of its excellent proximity to Gayles. shudder I had a bad experience there. I broke my rear derailleur within a few miles of the campground after a long day of touring. I finally managed to get myself to the entrance at about 1:30 am, whereupon I discovered I did not have the correct bills to pay for camping. I scrounged together some change and small bills to come up with the sum I owed; then I put the money in one of the envelopes, but because of all the coins, the envelope would not fit in the slot. No matter I thought, I'll just come back in the morning and hand over the envelope. By the time I got my tent set up, ate dinner, and showered it was 3am. I slept soundly until 8:30 am, when I got up to visit the restroom. On my way there, a ranger intercepted me. He harangued me for not paying, even though I told him that I tried to pay, and I showed him the envelope. I also told him about my bike troubles and that I needed to get my biked fixed at a local shop. I was thinking that maybe I would take a rest day to get my bike fixed and do laundry, so I asked the ranger if the campground allowed hiker/biker's to stay more than one night. He responded, You won't be staying here tonight. Checkout is at 9am, and you need to be gone by then. I told him I would pack up my stuff immediately, but that I had never gotten packed up in less than an hour before. He responded, You have to be out of here by 9am. I went to the bathroom, and then I scrambled to get my stuff packed up. I packed up in record time, and I limped out of the campground on my broken bike at 9:15 am, dead tired, and not sure where I was going. I never had any problems at any other campground. The hosts and rangers at the other campgrounds I stayed at were always exceptionally nice, and they really helped out touring cyclists. The mechanics at the Family Cycling Center offset the ranger's rudeness with their kindness, so my spirits lifted again. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:42:04 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: Happy birthday! Possible camping spots: I'm fond of New Brighton Beach, probably because of its excellent proximity to Gayles. Is Little Basin too far? I've been curious about camping there. And I hear that while the road from Highway 236 to Little Basin is paved, there is a non-paved bikeable exit if you continue on; it takes you to Empire Grade. http://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/little-basin-and-beyond/ It's possible, I think, to camp guerrilla on Waddell Creek. I don't recommend it on Labor Day Weekend, though; too busy. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Hello Friends, I'm planning a birthday celebration S24O campout for Monday Sept. 2nd. and would love some company. The location is not set in stone and I'm open to suggestions. Mixed terrain riding is welcome and desired. I live near the summit of Highway 17 (Redwood Estates) and I work in Scotts Valley. I'm planning to ride somewhere within a couple or three hours of home late Monday afternoon and then ride from the camp to work on Tuesday morning. A few possible camp locations that come to mind: - Castle Rock State Park hiker/biker campground (but I've done that twice now, so somewhere new is preferred) - I hear that there's a campground between Big Basin and Butano parks that's bike accessible - Niscene Marks park in Aptos has a campground that might be suitable - ...and I'm also open to guerrilla camping: Wilder Ranch? Other options? I know the Monday of Labor Day weekend is probably not the best timing for most, but it's what works for me, so that's when I'm going. :-) Let me know if you're interested in joining me! cheers, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Santa Cruz Mountains S24O - Monday (yes!) Sept. 2nd.
If I'm in town that day, I'll come along! On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:42:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Happy birthday! Possible camping spots: I'm fond of New Brighton Beach, probably because of its excellent proximity to Gayles. Is Little Basin too far? I've been curious about camping there. And I hear that while the road from Highway 236 to Little Basin is paved, there is a non-paved bikeable exit if you continue on; it takes you to Empire Grade. http://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/little-basin-and-beyond/ It's possible, I think, to camp guerrilla on Waddell Creek. I don't recommend it on Labor Day Weekend, though; too busy. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.netjavascript: wrote: Hello Friends, I'm planning a birthday celebration S24O campout for Monday Sept. 2nd. and would love some company. The location is not set in stone and I'm open to suggestions. Mixed terrain riding is welcome and desired. I live near the summit of Highway 17 (Redwood Estates) and I work in Scotts Valley. I'm planning to ride somewhere within a couple or three hours of home late Monday afternoon and then ride from the camp to work on Tuesday morning. A few possible camp locations that come to mind: - Castle Rock State Park hiker/biker campground (but I've done that twice now, so somewhere new is preferred) - I hear that there's a campground between Big Basin and Butano parks that's bike accessible - Niscene Marks park in Aptos has a campground that might be suitable - ...and I'm also open to guerrilla camping: Wilder Ranch? Other options? I know the Monday of Labor Day weekend is probably not the best timing for most, but it's what works for me, so that's when I'm going. :-) Let me know if you're interested in joining me! cheers, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Cockpit Change-out's
In a previous life, long ago, I did blog post. The blog is long gone but I saved a PDF. It's in my public Dropbox folder so I assume visible to all. Disclaimer: the HTML to PDF conversion has likely rendered certain actions and features non-working. http://bit.ly/1au8nuW • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] messing around with my Hunqapillar
I think that the vo or nitto adapter with suitable stem would look nicer than an open face quill stem. Also, it would give you more options in stem choices should you need to change that out. I'm not against threadless so I'm not bothered at all by that look. The vo page shows a look I'd find suitable on most any of my bikes. Ymmv. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/threadless-stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.html • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: messing around with my Hunqapillar
You might also consider scoping for a set of vintage alloy Nitto hi-riser bars, like the ones that came on the OG '80's Stumpjumpers and such. Pair those with a long Technomic, would be great for trail bombing and would have hand positions similar to the Bullmoose. KJ On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:01:12 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote: I like riding my Hunqapillar a lot. I also like fussing with it. I'm thinking of taking my 44 Noodles off and putting them back on my 650B rando bike and going with some mountain bars on the Hunq. I like the Bullmoose bar that Riv sells. But it's not cheap. I also really like the looks of the Jones Loop Bars. But I'd need a threadless adapter (Velo Orange and others sell them) or an open face quill--Salsa used to make one--and Profile Designs, Origin-8 and others still do. So, I wonder if anyone's used a threadless adapters or open face quills? They look fine to me. Better yet, anyone have a Salsa non-recall model open face quill stem for sale http://www.salsacromotostem.com/? Or perhaps a Nitto Bullmoose? Thanks Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cockpit Change-out's
Perry, Exactly what I was looking for! Are you still running a similar setup or have you found 'the one' cockipt to serve your needs? Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?
First wheelset Rich built for me, my 700c set, was on older XT hubs and Dyad rims; just about perfect, for me. The second wheelset he built for me was a 650b Synergy set, but switched to LX hubs because he was out of the older XT hubs. Again, a great set. The wheelset I built myself, I used 650b A23 rims with a DH-3N72 dynohub with a 105 rear; they've also been trouble-free. Common thing among all of these: Velocity rims, Shimano hubs, and 36h for each wheel. I'm not a little guy, I'm 250, I just feel 'more secure' on higher-spoke-count rims. That was why I picked a N72 instead of going for the N80 dynohub, as it only goes to 32h; if you want a Shimano dynohub in 36h, you have to go back to the 72. (And, the 72 is still a good hub, IMHO... the 80 is a little lighter, but, I'm not a hard-core gram-counter). I actually have another 36h N72 sitting on the shelf, for a future wheelbuild. I would like a SON, I like their looks better, but, the Shimanos are good value. (And, there's that other new dynohub, another to consider Shutter Precision? But I want 36h instead of 32h, so, I will either continue using the 72 Shimanos or have to bite the bullet and switch to SON for 36h I think, though, for future wheelbuilds that aren't going to involve a dynohub, I would look hard at White Industries. I've had several wheelbuilders suggest them instead of Phils or Chris Kings...(and, no one has ever recommended Hope? I don't know why...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?
My '97 Rivendell Road still uses its original (I believe) Phil Wood FW and front hub on Sun CR18's. I can't tell you the mileage (I bought it used this spring) but they have been well ridden. I've never felt a smoother ride. The Riv rolls so easily on those wheels. However, if I were building new wheels, a set of Phil hubs would cost me about what I paid for the whole bike. I'd look for better priced alternatives too. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: First wheelset Rich built for me, my 700c set, was on older XT hubs and Dyad rims; just about perfect, for me. The second wheelset he built for me was a 650b Synergy set, but switched to LX hubs because he was out of the older XT hubs. Again, a great set. The wheelset I built myself, I used 650b A23 rims with a DH-3N72 dynohub with a 105 rear; they've also been trouble-free. Common thing among all of these: Velocity rims, Shimano hubs, and 36h for each wheel. I'm not a little guy, I'm 250, I just feel 'more secure' on higher-spoke-count rims. That was why I picked a N72 instead of going for the N80 dynohub, as it only goes to 32h; if you want a Shimano dynohub in 36h, you have to go back to the 72. (And, the 72 is still a good hub, IMHO... the 80 is a little lighter, but, I'm not a hard-core gram-counter). I actually have another 36h N72 sitting on the shelf, for a future wheelbuild. I would like a SON, I like their looks better, but, the Shimanos are good value. (And, there's that other new dynohub, another to consider Shutter Precision? But I want 36h instead of 32h, so, I will either continue using the 72 Shimanos or have to bite the bullet and switch to SON for 36h I think, though, for future wheelbuilds that aren't going to involve a dynohub, I would look hard at White Industries. I've had several wheelbuilders suggest them instead of Phils or Chris Kings...(and, no one has ever recommended Hope? I don't know why...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cockpit Change-out's
Tony, my first choice is albas. My second choice is albas. Third? Ditto. In fact, I doubt there is any problem in life (bike-related or otherwise) that can't be solved by albas. ;) Seriously, they have been my go to bars for many years. I can be comfortable with most any bar but I just love the albas (or I used to call them a-bars). Ymmv. Here was my little ode to them, again, back in the day. (Same PDF disclaimers as with previous link.) http://bit.ly/14ZnEeW • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?
Leslie I'm in the same boat as you, at 250lbs and not a gentle rider I'm more comfortable with 36 spokes... great feedback on the Shimano/Velocity combo. I found a Shimano T780 (XT) hub - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/shimano-xt-rear-hub-t780/rp-prod67242 . It does have an alloy axle at 14mm, but I'm having trouble sourcing a 36h, steel axe, non-disk, SILVER, hub... Seems like this shouldn't be so hard!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] REDUCED: FS: A. Homer Hilsen 67cm DTT
After being out of town for basically the last 45 days, I've decided to reduce the price to 1550.00. Includes: Phil BB with removal/adjustment tools (awesome) Tange Levin Headset (also awesome) Cheers, and please contact me with questions! Patrick Louisville, Ky. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] messing around with my Hunqapillar
Thanks--I forgot that Nitto makes one. I like Nitto stuff-who doesn't?! On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:09:05 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Christian, I have a Nitto threadless adapter and think it's a great option. Doesn't have the most height on it, so still have to use a 17^ stem, but not big deal. Speaking of stems, Dimension makes a very clean, polished silver one that I like a lot: http://www.ebay.com/itm/400548673564 On 8/20/13, Christian christian@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I like riding my Hunqapillar a lot. I also like fussing with it. I'm thinking of taking my 44 Noodles off and putting them back on my 650B rando bike and going with some mountain bars on the Hunq. I like the Bullmoose bar that Riv sells. But it's not cheap. I also really like the looks of the Jones Loop Bars. But I'd need a threadless adapter (Velo Orange and others sell them) or an open face quill--Salsa used to make one--and Profile Designs, Origin-8 and others still do. So, I wonder if anyone's used a threadless adapters or open face quills? They look fine to me. Better yet, anyone have a Salsa non-recall model open face quill stem for sale http://www.salsacromotostem.com/? Or perhaps a Nitto Bullmoose? Thanks Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Traveling with a bike
I agree with everything Doug said. Traveling with a bike is a hassle and expensive. Shipping a bike is easier, if not cheaper. You might also consider shipping via Amtrak. While not necessarily cheaper, the Amtrak boxes are huge and don't require much disassembly of the bike. You can just go to the Amtrak station at your convenience, pick up your bike, assemble it, and ride away, leaving the box behind (they might save it for your return trip if you ask). In this case, the Oakland Amtrak is what you need. OKJ I think. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: messing around with my Hunqapillar
I agree: I don't mind threadless either. I've got two bikes with and two without. The only open face quill I've seen that I like the looks of is the old Salsa one. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:00:39 AM UTC-4, bobish wrote: I think that the vo or nitto adapter with suitable stem would look nicer than an open face quill stem. Also, it would give you more options in stem choices should you need to change that out. I'm not against threadless so I'm not bothered at all by that look. The vo page shows a look I'd find suitable on most any of my bikes. Ymmv. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/threadless-stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.html • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives
I remain a fan of Seki City knives, and also a fan usefullness, or biggest bang for what it costs you - that can be money or storage space. When Spyderco was selling out their Native Lightweight Generation 1 run for $20/, I bought knives for me and everybody I know. And I liked this knife enough that I bought one later generation made with better steel. Without wanting to light up the smoke police, before they disappeared, I bought several Al-Mar Havana Clippers, a wonderful little tanto + cigar cuter that disappears in your pocket. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/knife/knife6.jpg On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:20:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: No idea why Case hasn't been mentioned. They remain MUSA. http://www.wrcase.com/support/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Congrats, David! My QB is my favorite bike -- I keep coming back to it no matter what else (including other Rivs) I've been riding. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:43 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)! I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Beautiful bike - congratulations. I also like the stickers on your tool box. I put stickers on my kayak milk crates and plastic bike stand. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:43:24 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Congratulations David the QB looks amazing! ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:43:24 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Well, that's a nice colour, sure, but it also looks like the PO kept the derailleurs and shifters, and stuck you with what's essentially just a single-speed bike! - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Request for Advice: Portland to Mount Vernon via Astoria, Olympic Peninsula, and Whidbey Island
if you are able to do a little day ride north to edison from mt vernon on friday saturday or sunday, have a meal and hang out at tweets in the middle of edison. we locals ride south from bellingham every weekend and eat there and get bread and cookies from the Breadfarm next door-ish and Anne's coffee from her roasting shed on Samish Island or you can also get it from Slough Foods. Head east on Bow Hilll Road and get wonderrful blueberries at the blueberrie farm where Nancy and Harrlan are now serving up blueberry crepes. Edison is the food center of the known universe at this point. tweets is exraorrdinarry and worth the trip on its own. Actually the scenery is worth the ride and the food is a bonus. the mt vernon century is in september and you can do that or follow the route on your own. It is so lovely the locals drive or take the bus from bellingham to mt vernon to ride that route. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cockpit Change-out's
Tony, I never tried them that way because I know from the m-bar experiment it wouldn't be my cup of tea. I like being upright and schooching down when necessary by going the bar's deep bends (up front)--with elbows bent if necessary to get lower. When I'm descending down gnarly terrain, I want the bar ends (with reachable brake levers) to come up and back as much as possible--not low like when the a-bar upside down. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?
Tony, The Hubs are maintenance free, of course a freewheel, as a freehub, will need some maintenance at some time , but this is largely dependent on the actual freewheel or freehub and the conditions one rides in. I've used Sachs 7 speed FW's since the 90's. The best I've used. The cogs seem to wear FOREVER , as they are manufactured with more steel to being with, unlike cassettes which they shave the cog for performance, but at the cost of a shorter lifespan as they are already worn some. Sachs FW, are no longer manufactured, but they do still exist ! I bought most of mine in the 90's, but have found many spare cogs and bodies for sale at times here and on ebay. You can still find new , old stock and slightly used ones on ebay. However, Euro Asia Imports lists many freewheels. They do not sell to the public but deal with retailers only. http://www.euroasiaimports.com/productcart/pc/Freewheels-c802.htm Suntour FW's are good also, and these can be found on ebay and at Euro Asia. Shimano sells and makes 13-28's to this day. I've not used one, but they appear to be okay. If you can use a 13-28, I'd say just get some of those, and some spares :) I've always like FW's and hubs because of the independence of the two, any FW goes with any FW Hub. On the other hand, if you have a mind to, you can get individual cassette cogs and even make your own cassettes for CS hubs , at least for now. The way the industry is going I'm not sure if this is always going to be the case. If you like more than 7 speeds and or need a 11 or 12 tooth small cog, this is the only way to go, but I personally prefer 7 as more means just more shifting ! You can't go wrong either way of course make it fun and enjoy the ride :) Don't let anyone On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:06:52 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Hey Garth, that site is fantastic! Thanks for passing it along. Hey since you use the FW Phil hubs, what FW's do you use and where do you get them? I'd definitely be happy with 8 speed... and maybe even with 7. When you say no-maintenance are you referring to not having to service the free hub? Or are the hub's inherently stronger and less maintenance intensive? Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Nice score. I feel the same way as Pudge; the QB is a special bike, one you just keep going back to. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:43:24 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Fantastic! Enjoy the ride! With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:43:24 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Gransfors Bruks Hatchets
Just sprung for a GB Wildlife hatchet, mostly for bowl carving and for spring/fall bikepacking fire work. Looking forward to seeing we get along. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:57:53 AM UTC-6, ChrisB wrote: Hi All Looking through Manny's photos (many thanks Manny for sharing and great stuff) I saw that there is a photo of the new hand hatchet in the Gransfors Bruks range. I remember when Rivendell were selling these a few years ago and loved the design and the ethos behind the company (not too dissimilar to Great Pacific Ironworks unless I'm mistaken). It seemed consistent with Riv's philosophy of a simple, quality (honesty perhaps) that over a lifetime would offer value and just get more beautiful with age and use. However, I never did spring for one because I couldn't see how I would use it on a bike camping trip (and not look like slightly Jack Nicholson in the Shining)... I know they're highly revered in bushcraft circles: I googled and can see how they are a nice compromise between a larger axe and smaller bushcraft knife and can do the tasks of both well in skilled hands; making tent pegs, feathering sticks for kindling, making simple shelters, skinning fish, making traps etc. But, I imagine that most of us would use a tents, will take straightforward food and would be using a stove of some sort - perhaps the Trangia (another wonderfully designed item) which burns meths. Weight's not so much an issue (0.5kg) but it's a dense item and transport may be (perhaps wrapped in tincloth in a pannier would be fine). So, it's not like it's a bandana that we're chucking in here... So, I guess my rambling question is, if you've got one, how d'ya use it on bike trips? Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS White Industries Wheelset/Two New Cranks and BB
Sale complete on the wheels, Cranks still available. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:54:35 AM UTC-4, Trevor saxton wrote: Sale Pending on the wheels, cranks still available. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:52:22 AM UTC-4, Trevor saxton wrote: I had posted these before and then taken them off but would like to try again, for sale is a 650b white indutries wheelset, less than 60miles ridden, handbuilt by Anthony at Longleaf bikes, the rear hun is an H3 that has been modified to 135mm spacing, if you'd prefer 130mm spacing you can purchase a replacement end cap for $5 from White Industries directly, I may have the replacement but cant seem to find it. Rims are Velocity Dyad, I will add a 11-30 Shimano cassette as well, these would be a perfect addition to your Hilsen/Hillborne/Betty Foy. I'll also add a set of longboard fenders, cream p45s mounted once never ridden, I'll include way too much hardware as I combined a bunch of bits and cant separate out the right ones. Asking $475 plus $50 shipping to the US (from Canada), $30 Shipping to Canada, free pickup or delivery in Toronto. Need the money to fund another project. http://www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?start_tab=new_set Also I have the following Velo Orange Cranks with appropriate bottom Brackets for sale 48/34 165mm Crank with a 110mm Tange BB 46/30 Polyvalent 165mm Crank with 118mm VO BB Looking for 80$ including shipping for each http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/sets/72157635152403427/ Thanks email me offline if interested. Trevor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Well-known FACT: orange is the fastest bike color. It's also great to see it with Noodles. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:43:24 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Santa Cruz Mountains S24O - Monday (yes!) Sept. 2nd.
I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience at New Brighton. I've camped there a lot. Sometimes if you arrive early (before 4:30) you can't go to the camping area right away, but that is the only trouble I've had. And Gayles is really, really good. When I do an overnight at New Brighton, I don't even bring a stove. Dinner at Gayles, breakfast at Gayles, riding food purchased at Gayles. Yum. (Not for the low-carb crowd, though.) On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:07 AM, samh rbwown...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm fond of New Brighton Beach, probably because of its excellent proximity to Gayles. shudder I had a bad experience there. I broke my rear derailleur within a few miles of the campground after a long day of touring. I finally managed to get myself to the entrance at about 1:30 am, whereupon I discovered I did not have the correct bills to pay for camping. I scrounged together some change and small bills to come up with the sum I owed; then I put the money in one of the envelopes, but because of all the coins, the envelope would not fit in the slot. No matter I thought, I'll just come back in the morning and hand over the envelope. By the time I got my tent setup, ate dinner, and showered it was 3am. I slept soundly, and at 8:30 am I got up to visit the restroom. On my way there, a ranger intercepted me. He harangued me for not paying, even though I told him that I tried to pay, and I showed him the envelope. I also told him about my bike troubles and that I needed to get my biked fixed at a local shop. I was thinking that maybe I would take a rest day to get my bike fixed and do laundry, so I asked the ranger if the campground allowed hiker/biker's to stay more than one night. He responded, You won't be staying here tonight. Checkout is at 9am, and you need to be gone by then. I told him I would pack up my stuff immediately, but that I had never gotten packed up in less than an hour before. He responded, You have to be out of here by 9am. I went to the bathroom, and then I scrambled to get my stuff packed up. I packed up in record time, and I limped out of the campground on my broken bike at 9:15 am. I never had any problems at any other campground. The hosts and rangers at the other campgrounds I stayed at were always exceptionally nice, and they really helped out touring cyclists. The mechanics at the Family Cycling Center offset the ranger's rudeness with their kindness, so my spirits lifted again. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:42:04 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: Happy birthday! Possible camping spots: I'm fond of New Brighton Beach, probably because of its excellent proximity to Gayles. Is Little Basin too far? I've been curious about camping there. And I hear that while the road from Highway 236 to Little Basin is paved, there is a non-paved bikeable exit if you continue on; it takes you to Empire Grade. http://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/little-basin-and-beyond/ It's possible, I think, to camp guerrilla on Waddell Creek. I don't recommend it on Labor Day Weekend, though; too busy. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Hello Friends, I'm planning a birthday celebration S24O campout for Monday Sept. 2nd. and would love some company. The location is not set in stone and I'm open to suggestions. Mixed terrain riding is welcome and desired. I live near the summit of Highway 17 (Redwood Estates) and I work in Scotts Valley. I'm planning to ride somewhere within a couple or three hours of home late Monday afternoon and then ride from the camp to work on Tuesday morning. A few possible camp locations that come to mind: - Castle Rock State Park hiker/biker campground (but I've done that twice now, so somewhere new is preferred) - I hear that there's a campground between Big Basin and Butano parks that's bike accessible - Niscene Marks park in Aptos has a campground that might be suitable - ...and I'm also open to guerrilla camping: Wilder Ranch? Other options? I know the Monday of Labor Day weekend is probably not the best timing for most, but it's what works for me, so that's when I'm going. :-) Let me know if you're interested in joining me! cheers, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
[RBW] Re: 2 bikes for sale part deux
Since I am impatient and do really need the money to begin work on the Betty Foy, this is down to one bike for sale the ROADEO with 2 changes, I much prefer single speed cycling so an unwilling to give up the Pelican and don't really need the better wheelset below so. Wheelset will be upgraded to a slightly used (less than 500miles) wheelset which is comprised of Ultegra Hubs laced to Mavic Open Pro Rims and a fancy lightweight 9spd SRAM cassette. Same build, price remains $2500 including I am willing to sell the frame/fork and headset I will then part out the rest locally, am looking for $1,650 including the cost of shipping, packed by me in the original box, new frame alone is $2,200 plus shipping. Headset is a canecreek one inch threadless, I will include the two VO stems (10cm +/- 6deg, 8cm +/-17deg) to allow you to dial in fit. my saddle height is between 72-73cm and there are enough spacers to easily get the handlebars both above and below the saddle, Pictures are still up if you need more please contact me. If I don't sell by labour day then off to ebay the frame will go. Thanks Trevor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
The 559 MTB world is getting smaller. I hear some fairly large MTB companies are more or less pulling the plug on 559. Santa Cruz comes to mind. Jim On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:14:48 PM UTC-5, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The Secret to Success.
Happy belated birthday Manny! The pictures are great. They remind me of watching the Friends TV show and wondering what's wrong with my friends by comparison! On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:28:09 AM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote: My idea of a great birthday? Do the things I love with the folks I care about. Got plenty of that this past weekend. Pictures proved that family and friends are all you need to make a birthday special: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjHCXr1g -Manny Birthdays are just another reason to hang with love ones! Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
What about for short people? There's no way someone 5'4 is better off on a 29er. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The 559 MTB world is getting smaller. I hear some fairly large MTB companies are more or less pulling the plug on 559. Santa Cruz comes to mind. Jim On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:14:48 PM UTC-5, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
It seems like 650b (27.5 in mountain bike speak) is displacing 26 inch. Dan Abelson St Paul, MN On Aug 22, 2013 1:35 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: What about for short people? There's no way someone 5'4 is better off on a 29er. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The 559 MTB world is getting smaller. I hear some fairly large MTB companies are more or less pulling the plug on 559. Santa Cruz comes to mind. Jim On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:14:48 PM UTC-5, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv related items for sale; Riv Readers, grip kings, trunksack, rain pants, splats, etc...
Alright, I've got a lotta things I need to sell, it's just that time of year for me, I have pics of some of these things on flickrhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/sets/72157632162511851/, but will take pics of the rest post tonight: Rivendell Reader Collection 1-42 w/ only a couple missing multiples of some, w/ extra catalogs, misc flyers, etc.- not sure what I should charge, there've been some insane prices on ebay. If you're interested, make an offer and we can discuss. I don't want to hold on to them as I've read and re-read these things over over they're great, but it's time to pass them on. Grip Kings (nearly new)-$40 shipped cont US Trunk Sack Large in Green- 2nd owner, good shape, can include coroplast stiffener if desired- $ 70 shipped new ones here: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bastl-tan.htm MUSA rain pants (2nd owner, brown spot on the butt, not from poo, but saddle leakage. They work well, but are too orange for my rain jacket)-$40 shipped Splats Large (too big for me, will trade for Med. or sell) $12 shipped Showers Pass Med rain jacket (got on clearance from LBS for $90, wore twice)- $45 shipped Nitto Technomic (Would prefer to trade for Nitto Dirt Drop stem)- 11cm in good shape, 25.4 I believe- $35 shipped Raleigh Professional Fork (silver not chromed, fits a 35 w/o fenders, 32 w/ fenders, Pasela's at least)- $75 shipped Shimano LX 7 speed group from 1991 Scott Boulder(everything is in good working order, Biopace rings; includes: both der, triple crank working 3x7 shifters brake levers):$60 shipped Origin8 branded Tektro areo levers (black hoods, white lever; never used but no box)-$12 shipped Louis Garneau Winter bike shoes (these:http://www.performancebike.com/reviews/performance/power/pwr/product-reviews/Shoes-Pedals/Cycling-Shoes/Mountain-Shoes/LOUIS-GARNEAU/p/20__5379-Louis-Garneau-0-Ergo-Grip-Winter-Cycling-Shoe.html / in size ~11; I'll verify for sure, but they're too big for me even w/ wool sox, like new, stored in garage so dusty, but only worn twice- $50 shipped If ANYTHING seems outta line or would interest you at a lower cost, please let me know. I'm looking to get rid of things not necessarily make or even recoup all my invested dollars. I also have some misc items like Arc bars from an XO-5, slingshot stem/bars from an old Trek 850, that'd I'd sell for $5 plus shipping if interested. Reply to e-mail I'll get back as quick as I can. Paypal is preferred, but please send money to your friend Eric rather than buying something. Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] messing around with my Hunqapillar
I have a few of these stems, some Dimension branded, some Civia, and they are fantastic for the price. I'd love to see more pop top quills. Pragmatics beats aesthetics for me most of the time. I'm currently riding two bikes with quill stems the wrong length because I'm too lazy to replace the shellacked cork grips on them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.
If I hustle, I could be there by 7. Likely closer to 8. I may take the train part of the way to make up for time (gotta see my 7-year-old's dance recital). The Pelican is easier to ride fast, so I may go ultralight and take that. That's the number. Text me when you guys are eating. I could meet you at Sonny's/Pizza Port or eat leftovers with the raccoons. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:47:01 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Esteban: You're leaving USD @ 3? Heading north with a load, what's a reasonable time for you to get there? I'm guessing headwind from Torrey Pines to Oceanside. Across the base isn't too bad. I've got a number for you ending in 0625; still good? Mine never changes. We can keep you posted on our whereabouts. dougP On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:38:56 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: For the record, I will employ a tent, and bring a u-lock, and some rye wiskey, and earplugs in case the local teenagers want to stay up past 11 on a Friday night. 9 can mill about and look like 8. Should be a lot of fun. I'll likely need to high-tail it south on Saturday, so I may not join for a morning ramble. So, when is dinner? Now just gotta decide if the Protovelo or Pelican will make the journey. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:09:34 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote: Hi David, Looking forward to this Riv gathering and meeting new people who ride bikes. I am sure you can entertain us with first hand Manny stories. Should be a few of us riding south on Saturday. Peace On Tuesday, August 20, 2013, David Yu Greenblatt wrote: Howdy, I would like to join you guys. I don't currently own a Riv but I am a FOM (Friend of Manny, with pics to prove it: http://flic.kr/p/dzJi7d http://flic.kr/p/dZu6Ym). I just moved to San Diego from San Francisco and would like to make new bike riding and beer drinking buddies. I should be able to depart Carmel Valley around 4PM (eye appt at 1PM and need to recover from eye dilation). Anybody passing through North County San Diego around then? Esteban, what route are you riding? What is the current head count? Should I book a second campsite? Looking forward to meeting you all. - David Greenblatt On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote: Tom, No worries about my dinner it was no big deal setting things up. Either Sonny's or P.P. work for me. Esteban glad you can make it, looking forward to meeting you. Same goes for you Tom. Mike that's cause mosquitoes like me! No Cowboy camping for me. I'll bring a lock. Tom I'll stash my stuff at camp in my tent another reason to bring a tent. ~Hugh On Monday, August 19, 2013 8:13:25 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: Hugh's turkey chili looks delicious, and I don't want to dis him, but I really don't want to burden him with portaging it down from Irvine on his bike. Google maps indicates a 3.6 mile cruisehttps://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!4m19!3m18!1m5!1sSan+Mateo+Campground%2C+830+Cristianitos+Rd%2C+San+Clemente%2C+CA+92672!2s0x80dcf4e2ac3c2215%3A0x9b0053fcad43b0c6!3m2!3d33.405531!4d-117.584436!1m1!1sSonny's+Pizza+%26+Pasta%2C+429+North+El+Camino+Real%2C+San+Clemente%2C+CA!2e1!3m8!1m3!1d41630!2d-117.5990869!3d33.4124352!3m2!1i2141!2i1200!4f13.1fid=0 down from San Mateo to Sonny's. Recommend we pass the hat for Hugh's dining and liquid refreshment for all of his trouble setting this event up. Just out of interest, how do you folks secure your bikes while dining? I have not owned a bike lock since grade school. Since I left grade school, my policy has been to never let my bike out of my sight. Street view of Sonny'shttps://www.google.com/maps/preview?hl=en#!q=429+N+El+Camino+Real%2C+San+Clemente%2C+CA+92672data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-117.614923!3d33.429577!2m2!1f342.1!2f80.48!4f75!2m4!1e1!2m2!1strb0XLVgnZOobKTM4pIBDw!2e0!4m10!1m9!4m8!1m3!1d670556!2d-117.1089785!3d32.8245525!3m2!1i2141!2i1200!4f13.1fid=5. Not sure about the bike parking situation. Do you leave your gear back in camp? Best regards, Tom On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:12:14 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: SoCal Rivesters, I was thinking of a S240 for Friday the 23rd at San Mateo Campground near San Onofre State Beach. For those in the North we could meet at Doug P's home and ride the 30 miles to the site. Those in the South could either meet us at the Metro link station in Irvine and ride down with us or ride the Metro link to Oceanside and ride through Camp Pendleton to the site, a few options to choose from. Suggestions are welcome. Once there we can jump in the Pacific and rollick in the surf. I figure this would be a good date before the Labor Day weekend. Here's the rub though, there is only one site available at this moment so I need a count quick before I reserve it. Thanks for looking, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are
Re: [RBW] VO Touring Hub vs XT?
With respect to Alex Wetmore, I personally find this kind of blanket condemnation based on a single example to be both misleading and irritating (and ubiquitous on the internet). I've been selling and personally using the 770/780 series XT hubs with the aluminum axles since they were introduced, and have seen no such problems, even on examples that are used and/or abused heavily. In my experience, they are the best bang for the buck, and based on sheer numbers of debilitating hub failures I've seen/repaired, the 770/780 XT hubs are more reliable than recent Phil cassette hubs. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:12:36 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:36:08 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: Actually, go with LX. More durable than the XT, it's only drawback compared to the XT is a little bit of weight. These are things I have not directly tested on my own; I am repeating what Rich at Rivendell told me. My LX hub wheels have been outstanding. The hubs look really good and cost less than XT too. Alex Wetmore warned of the problems with the XT (M770) hubs that have aluminum axles: There is one major problem with the LHT wheels. *They are using the FH-M770 rear hub, which has smaller bearings (3/16) than standard Shimano rear hubs (1/4) and uses aluminum axles with easy to strip threads. I knew about the smaller bearings, but just learned about the aluminum axle this weekend with a friend visited with a broken one. *When he took it apart in my shop he discovered that the end cap had stripped the threads in the axle. *I took a photo which you can find here: http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Shimano-XT-Aluminum-Axle/10997988_eTAGA#768940509_7GQHt The axle in the rear is a standard 10mm steel Shimano hub axle. *You can see that the thread pitch and the height of the threads is the same on each. He had not adjusted the bearings from the Shimano factory before having this failure. *I personally think that this is a silly place to save weight on a touring bike and would recommend LX hubs over XT ones for touring and commuting wheelsets. *Since the end cap is also used to preload the bearings it will not be fully threaded onto the axle. *In this case it looks like it was being held on with only two or three threads. I was disappointed to see this development. *XT has almost always been light in smart ways, so that it ends up a little lighter than LX without giving up any durability. *Now it looks like LX is the durable group and My heavy duty city/tour wheelset is built on plain Deores. The bearing feel is phenomenal compared to even five years ago. The seals are magnificent. They just need a little touch of the cone wrench out of the box. So you have been warnedGood Luck! On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:59 AM, mikel...@juno.com wrote: tried and true XT 30-second trick for a flat belly This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body#39;s #1 fat-burning hormone http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5214d62890ccd56284a0fst02duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] VO Touring Hub vs XT?
And I should point out that bike parts often have a hard life. Expecting a zero percent failure rate is unreasonable. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:52:34 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: With respect to Alex Wetmore, I personally find this kind of blanket condemnation based on a single example to be both misleading and irritating (and ubiquitous on the internet). I've been selling and personally using the 770/780 series XT hubs with the aluminum axles since they were introduced, and have seen no such problems, even on examples that are used and/or abused heavily. In my experience, they are the best bang for the buck, and based on sheer numbers of debilitating hub failures I've seen/repaired, the 770/780 XT hubs are more reliable than recent Phil cassette hubs. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:12:36 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:36:08 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: Actually, go with LX. More durable than the XT, it's only drawback compared to the XT is a little bit of weight. These are things I have not directly tested on my own; I am repeating what Rich at Rivendell told me. My LX hub wheels have been outstanding. The hubs look really good and cost less than XT too. Alex Wetmore warned of the problems with the XT (M770) hubs that have aluminum axles: There is one major problem with the LHT wheels. *They are using the FH-M770 rear hub, which has smaller bearings (3/16) than standard Shimano rear hubs (1/4) and uses aluminum axles with easy to strip threads. I knew about the smaller bearings, but just learned about the aluminum axle this weekend with a friend visited with a broken one. *When he took it apart in my shop he discovered that the end cap had stripped the threads in the axle. *I took a photo which you can find here: http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Shimano-XT-Aluminum-Axle/10997988_eTAGA#768940509_7GQHt The axle in the rear is a standard 10mm steel Shimano hub axle. *You can see that the thread pitch and the height of the threads is the same on each. He had not adjusted the bearings from the Shimano factory before having this failure. *I personally think that this is a silly place to save weight on a touring bike and would recommend LX hubs over XT ones for touring and commuting wheelsets. *Since the end cap is also used to preload the bearings it will not be fully threaded onto the axle. *In this case it looks like it was being held on with only two or three threads. I was disappointed to see this development. *XT has almost always been light in smart ways, so that it ends up a little lighter than LX without giving up any durability. *Now it looks like LX is the durable group and My heavy duty city/tour wheelset is built on plain Deores. The bearing feel is phenomenal compared to even five years ago. The seals are magnificent. They just need a little touch of the cone wrench out of the box. So you have been warnedGood Luck! On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:59 AM, mikel...@juno.com wrote: tried and true XT 30-second trick for a flat belly This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body#39;s #1 fat-burning hormone http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5214d62890ccd56284a0fst02duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Woo-hoo! Happy new bike day indeed! It's absolutely gorgeous. I do love orange bikes! On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:43:24 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Jamboree, China Camp
The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Jamboree, China Camp
I'm not sure I actually voted. I did suggest we have it on the weekend 7/19-7/20 so that I could make it but I'm not sure that's actually a vote. In any case, I'm all in favor of SF/China Camp. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
That's sweet. As much as I love my silver QB there is definitely something about orange... Aloha, Bob On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote: Woo-hoo! Happy new bike day indeed! It's absolutely gorgeous. I do love orange bikes! On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:43:24 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't planning on getting a new bike, but sometimes these things just can't be avoided! When a 60cm Quickbeam recently was offered for sale here by Collin, I pretty much had to make it work out! And everything came together in an amazing fashion! I took a day or so dithering about it, but was able to still buy it. For transportation from Walnut Creek to Redlands, I was able to press Jim W into service. He was coming back down south after spending several weeks in the Bay Area and was happy to help a guy out! The good people at Rivendell even lent some storage space to the cause and let Collin drop it off there until Jim could get by to pick it up. A lot of good people helped make this happen, and I'm ecstatic to have a new bike! And the first (short) ride! http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/9568141294/in/**photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9568141294/in/photostream/ Happy New Bike Day! -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Jamboree, China Camp
The poll is here: http://doodle.com/skm8u4ges4gtxqt5 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure I actually voted. I did suggest we have it on the weekend 7/19-7/20 so that I could make it but I'm not sure that's actually a vote. In any case, I'm all in favor of SF/China Camp. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Jamboree, China Camp
I note though that as a location Minneapolis is leading 28-22. Being from Saint Paul I may be biased but it seems like we should pick a location first and then a date. It seems that by offering one date for San Francisco and 2 for Minneapolis the Minneapolis vote got split. I would not be surprised that if there were only date for Minneapolis, it would have more votes than San Francisco. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Aug 22, 2013 3:29 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: The poll is here: http://doodle.com/skm8u4ges4gtxqt5 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure I actually voted. I did suggest we have it on the weekend 7/19-7/20 so that I could make it but I'm not sure that's actually a vote. In any case, I'm all in favor of SF/China Camp. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Congrats! Beautiful bike. What kinda bartape is that? Looks real nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Also, the July 19/20 date conflicts with RAGBRAI, on which I met several RBW bunch folks. Another vote against it for midwesterners. I'd love to make it to Riv HQ for any of these events, but that date rules this one out. Tim On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Custom Appaloosa Update
Here's some fun news! I talked with Mark at Riv and there seems to be a groovy design solution to having a really small frame (in the 50cm range) with a diagatube! When last you tuned in (if you tuned in at all), you might recall (or might not) that Grant said that getting a diagatube, lugs, and clearance for 55mm tires and fenders was like trying to get 4 balls into 3 and a half holes. Here's how it's likely to go: 26 wheels (already knew that) and— —*double* small diameter old school Mixte-style diagatubes that are mitered and fillet brazed somewhere about the head tube. Where it's brazed to will be Mark Nobilette's choice; could be to the top tube, could be to the head tube, could be to the bottom tube. Mark was quite excited as he described it. It would be truly totally custom. Current thinking on the build kit is as follows: 58 Boscos, Meisha's Cork (normal), Paul Thumbies + Shimano BarEnds, brake levers to be determined, Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset Phil Rivy Hub - Rivy 32h Rear Hub, New SON 28 32H Front Hub, 26 Aeroheat Rims, Schwalbe Big Bens Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t, VP Thin Gripster pedals Brooks Champion Flyer select, Paul Tall and Handsome seatpost As always, your thoughts are welcomed! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Santa Cruz Mountains S24O - Monday (yes!) Sept. 2nd.
Thanks Anne! I hadn't considered New Brighton, but I share your liking of Gayle's; Yum! I've lived and ridden in the SC Mtns for coming up on 15 years now, and surprisingly, I'd never even heard of Little Basin, even though I've ridden past it many times. I checked out their website, and it looks nice, but tent campsites are $45/night this time of year, which I consider a bit steep unless we get a large crew to split the cost. The ride from there up to Empire Grade sounds painfully fun though! cheers, Andrew From: Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Santa Cruz Mountains S24O - Monday (yes!) Sept. 2nd. Happy birthday! Possible camping spots: I'm fond of New Brighton Beach, probably because of its excellent proximity to Gayles. Is Little Basin too far? I've been curious about camping there. And I hear that while the road from Highway 236 to Little Basin is paved, there is a non-paved bikeable exit if you continue on; it takes you to Empire Grade. http://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/little-basin-and-beyond/ It's possible, I think, to camp guerrilla on Waddell Creek. I don't recommend it on Labor Day Weekend, though; too busy. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Hello Friends, I'm planning a birthday celebration S24O campout for Monday Sept. 2nd. and would love some company. The location is not set in stone and I'm open to suggestions. Mixed terrain riding is welcome and desired. I live near the summit of Highway 17 (Redwood Estates) and I work in Scotts Valley. I'm planning to ride somewhere within a couple or three hours of home late Monday afternoon and then ride from the camp to work on Tuesday morning. A few possible camp locations that come to mind: - Castle Rock State Park hiker/biker campground (but I've done that twice now, so somewhere new is preferred) - I hear that there's a campground between Big Basin and Butano parks that's bike accessible - Niscene Marks park in Aptos has a campground that might be suitable - ...and I'm also open to guerrilla camping: Wilder Ranch? Other options? I know the Monday of Labor Day weekend is probably not the best timing for most, but it's what works for me, so that's when I'm going. :-) Let me know if you're interested in joining me! cheers, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
I love the twin mixte style diagatubes! Am I thinking correctly that they will be side-by-side from headtube back to seat tube, at which point they will splay out and tentaculate back near the dropouts, one curving up to a seatstay, the other curling down to the chainstay? Will Mark Nobi be brazing on those spanning webs to attach a h2o cage onto those twin diagatubes? Whatever they come up with it sounds sweet On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:08:36 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Here's some fun news! I talked with Mark at Riv and there seems to be a groovy design solution to having a really small frame (in the 50cm range) with a diagatube! When last you tuned in (if you tuned in at all), you might recall (or might not) that Grant said that getting a diagatube, lugs, and clearance for 55mm tires and fenders was like trying to get 4 balls into 3 and a half holes. Here's how it's likely to go: 26 wheels (already knew that) and— —*double* small diameter old school Mixte-style diagatubes that are mitered and fillet brazed somewhere about the head tube. Where it's brazed to will be Mark Nobilette's choice; could be to the top tube, could be to the head tube, could be to the bottom tube. Mark was quite excited as he described it. It would be truly totally custom. Current thinking on the build kit is as follows: 58 Boscos, Meisha's Cork (normal), Paul Thumbies + Shimano BarEnds, brake levers to be determined, Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset Phil Rivy Hub - Rivy 32h Rear Hub, New SON 28 32H Front Hub, 26 Aeroheat Rims, Schwalbe Big Bens Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t, VP Thin Gripster pedals Brooks Champion Flyer select, Paul Tall and Handsome seatpost As always, your thoughts are welcomed! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
It wasn't too long ago that non one dared go adventure or world touring on anything other than 559 wheels because they'd be ubiquitous and therefore easy to replace/find a large tire selection, etc. Now this? It can only mean one thing: time to start hoarding discounted wheels because they're coming back--just like everything else, they will be rediscovered. • Perry (no fan of 559 wheels but I can see which way the wind blows) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
Thanks for the post. I forwarded it to my son who is trying to build up a new SOMA MtB and was feeling discouraged about the price of mid level rims. He bought two right on the spot. Michael On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:14:48 PM UTC-4, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?
Europe Tony ! ... Europe ! Deore and LX in silver 36 hole. http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k1754/trekking.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Would it take a triple crank? I am just thinking that a 40t x 26t. double crank seems like it needs a middle ring. 40 would be too high to stay in for long, I would think, unless you are on dead flats or downhills, or a strong rider (I couldn't do it). The small ring would be too light, I would think, unless doing lotsa steep uphills, or loaded touring. Just throwing out some thoughts. Sounds like it is gonna be a great bike whatever you choose though! Enjoy! And be sure to post pics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
40 x 26 is plenty. Run the numbers with any normal cassette. Compact double is all most people need. You need a triple carrying or hauling lots of weight, and maybe need it for serious off road riding. But if you lay out the numbers, an intelligently selected compact double gives you everything you need and nothing you don't need. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:32:06 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Would it take a triple crank? I am just thinking that a 40t x 26t. double crank seems like it needs a middle ring. 40 would be too high to stay in for long, I would think, unless you are on dead flats or downhills, or a strong rider (I couldn't do it). The small ring would be too light, I would think, unless doing lotsa steep uphills, or loaded touring. Just throwing out some thoughts. Sounds like it is gonna be a great bike whatever you choose though! Enjoy! And be sure to post pics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
I agree that we should be voting on just one MSP date...it would be more fairI think -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
On 08/22/2013 06:41 PM, William wrote: 40 x 26 is plenty. Run the numbers with any normal cassette. Compact double is all most people need. You need a triple carrying or hauling lots of weight, and maybe need it for serious off road riding. But if you lay out the numbers, an intelligently selected compact double gives you everything you need and nothing you don't need. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:32:06 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Would it take a triple crank? I am just thinking that a 40t x 26t. double crank seems like it needs a middle ring. 40 53.8 % 26 11 98.2 63.8 18.2 % 13 83.1 54.0 15.4 % 15 72.0 46.8 13.3 % 17 63.5 41.3 11.8 % 19 56.8 36.9 10.5 % 21 51.4 33.4 9.5 % 23 47.0 30.5 8.7 % 25 43.2 28.1 12.0 % 28 38.6 25.1 14.3 % 32 33.8 21.9 OK, here's the 40/26 with an 11-32 10 speed cassette. The range is just fine: 22 low, 98 high. Can't be bettered. But what happens inside the range? In the terrain I ride most, I'd stay on the big ring all the way down the block until I was forced to shift -- and I would be forced to shift every time it got steep, because 39 is not enough for me on 9-10% grades. What happens then? Let's say I go from the 40 to the 28T chain ring. Now I'm in a 25 gear, and that's so low I'm going to think I dropped the chain. I'll be looking for a gear lower than 38 inches, something in the mid to low 30s. Whatcha got? Upshift 4 and you get a 37, just about the same as where I was. Upshift 3 in back and I get a 33. I can live with a 33 -- but can I live with having to upshift 3 each time I cross over? I don't think so. That 54% difference in the chain rings means you can't ever just shift the front and keep on truckin', the jump is just too much. Unlike, for example, the 10-tooth difference between my 36 and 46T chain rings. There, if I'm feeling lazy or the terrain is steepening fast, I just shift the front and go from a 52 gear to a 40.5 -- something you can live with -- or I can upshift 1 and get a 46, next in sequence. What about up at the top end? 98 is a nice top end, in fact it's what I have now. But where's that 88.7 I have? Missing. Next gear is 2 teeth down, an 83. That's a hole I'd trip on often. For reference, here's my gearing with a 9 speed 13-30 cassette: 46 3624 95.574.849.8 88.769.446.3 82.864.843.2 73.157.238.1 65.451.234.1 59.146.330.9 51.840.527.0 46.036.024.0 41.432.421.6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 56 cm Heron PBH
I assume this question was spawned by the heron frame on ebay. That thing went for a song. I actually wished I would have bid on it even though its too big for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Steve buddy 1. I would never categorize you in most people, so you can be totally right about your gearing choices without disproving my assertion that most people can do just fine with a compact double. :-) 2. This is another datapoint proving that you've been unfairly maligned as a Jan Heine disciple. You like cantilever brakes and triples. If you were a true Jan-zealot you'd be on centerpulls and compact doubles. Steve learns from many, but makes up his own mind, people! 3. I agree that a compact double with an ultrawide cassette has big jumps. What I meant by a normal cassette was more like an 11-26 or an 11-28 with a 44/30. If you cannot possibly live without a sub 22 gear then I agree that a triple provides better coverage. On my touring bike I happily run a 3x8 where I need really low gears. In general I agree 300% with your approach: Pick your high gear and your low gear and design it to cover the space with acceptable jumps, keeping an eye peeled for chain line. Double shifts are a lot less troublesome to me than you make it sound when my left side shifter never has to trim. Slam it against the stop for the big ring. Slam it against the stop for the small ring. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:02:18 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 06:41 PM, William wrote: 40 x 26 is plenty. Run the numbers with any normal cassette. Compact double is all most people need. You need a triple carrying or hauling lots of weight, and maybe need it for serious off road riding. But if you lay out the numbers, an intelligently selected compact double gives you everything you need and nothing you don't need. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:32:06 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Would it take a triple crank? I am just thinking that a 40t x 26t. double crank seems like it needs a middle ring. 40 53.8 % 26 11 98.2 63.8 18.2 % 13 83.1 54.0 15.4 % 15 72.0 46.8 13.3 % 17 63.5 41.3 11.8 % 19 56.8 36.9 10.5 % 21 51.4 33.4 9.5 % 23 47.0 30.5 8.7 % 25 43.2 28.1 12.0 % 28 38.6 25.1 14.3 % 32 33.8 21.9 OK, here's the 40/26 with an 11-32 10 speed cassette. The range is just fine: 22 low, 98 high. Can't be bettered. But what happens inside the range? In the terrain I ride most, I'd stay on the big ring all the way down the block until I was forced to shift -- and I would be forced to shift every time it got steep, because 39 is not enough for me on 9-10% grades. What happens then? Let's say I go from the 40 to the 28T chain ring. Now I'm in a 25 gear, and that's so low I'm going to think I dropped the chain. I'll be looking for a gear lower than 38 inches, something in the mid to low 30s. Whatcha got? Upshift 4 and you get a 37, just about the same as where I was. Upshift 3 in back and I get a 33. I can live with a 33 -- but can I live with having to upshift 3 each time I cross over? I don't think so. That 54% difference in the chain rings means you can't ever just shift the front and keep on truckin', the jump is just too much. Unlike, for example, the 10-tooth difference between my 36 and 46T chain rings. There, if I'm feeling lazy or the terrain is steepening fast, I just shift the front and go from a 52 gear to a 40.5 -- something you can live with -- or I can upshift 1 and get a 46, next in sequence. What about up at the top end? 98 is a nice top end, in fact it's what I have now. But where's that 88.7 I have? Missing. Next gear is 2 teeth down, an 83. That's a hole I'd trip on often. For reference, here's my gearing with a 9 speed 13-30 cassette: 46 3624 95.5 74.8 49.8 88.7 69.4 46.3 82.8 64.8 43.2 73.1 57.2 38.1 65.4 51.2 34.1 59.1 46.3 30.9 51.8 40.5 27.0 46.0 36.0 24.0 41.4 32.4 21.6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
Michael Glad I could help Bill who has a nice pair of eyeleted 559 rim-brake rims on the hook just in case I ever go back to 26ers Lindsay On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:08:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Thanks for the post. I forwarded it to my son who is trying to build up a new SOMA MtB and was feeling discouraged about the price of mid level rims. He bought two right on the spot. Michael On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:14:48 PM UTC-4, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv National Jamboree Poll
I voted for the Bay Area as for me I know I can make it. But If MSP gets it I won't be too disappointed as I've never been there before. Where ever it happen to be It'll be a grand time. ~Hugh On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:50:56 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Let's make sure to nail this down sooner rather than later. Dates location. Being a National Event, there will be a lot of travelers the best air fares go quickly. I'm not voting on location as I'll be there wherever it happens, and my time is flexible regarding dates. dougP On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:08:27 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: Add your vote, listers. Grant did! jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp
FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the date. As far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go to both and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my significant other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the location in 2015. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote: 2 people voted for all 3. So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't really significant of a difference between the two choices. It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the other. I think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the folks who want to go to them go to them. Stephen On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two MSP options combined have more votes only because lots of people voted for both of them. Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17. Everybody who voted for China Camp: 22. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF option. Maybe there should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO date. On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: The poll has always had the SF/China Camp option leading. Right now, among those who express a preference, China Camp leads 20-14. Shall we now declare that we have decided, and begin to implement? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Change-out's
This image showed up on the 650B group. Posted by Soma more about the decaleur but it does seem that Nitto has an open face quill in the works. Does not look to be that long - maybe like a Dynamic. But much better looking than the UI-2 stem. Dan -Marin [image: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XFvhqY_T4ZQ/Ugq1IBUJcjI/KA0/qNA2Wn_KcGA/s1600/Image+created+with+Snapseed.jpg] On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:56 AM, bobish bob...@gmail.com wrote: Tony, I never tried them that way because I know from the m-bar experiment it wouldn't be my cup of tea. I like being upright and schooching down when necessary by going the bar's deep bends (up front)--with elbows bent if necessary to get lower. When I'm descending down gnarly terrain, I want the bar ends (with reachable brake levers) to come up and back as much as possible--not low like when the a-bar upside down. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv National Jamboree Poll
Fun. What did Ernie Banks used to say? Let's play two! On Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:00:08 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: I voted for the Bay Area as for me I know I can make it. But If MSP gets it I won't be too disappointed as I've never been there before. Where ever it happen to be It'll be a grand time. ~Hugh On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:50:56 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Let's make sure to nail this down sooner rather than later. Dates location. Being a National Event, there will be a lot of travelers the best air fares go quickly. I'm not voting on location as I'll be there wherever it happens, and my time is flexible regarding dates. dougP On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:08:27 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: Add your vote, listers. Grant did! jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
Sort of a shame that all three sizes can't be supported and used based on frame size. 559 is a great size for 13-15 bikes, 584 for 15-19, and 722 for 17-21. I used MTB sizing as that's where the change is happening the most right now. On 8/22/13, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Glad I could help Bill who has a nice pair of eyeleted 559 rim-brake rims on the hook just in case I ever go back to 26ers Lindsay On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:08:29 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Thanks for the post. I forwarded it to my son who is trying to build up a new SOMA MtB and was feeling discouraged about the price of mid level rims. He bought two right on the spot. Michael On Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:14:48 PM UTC-4, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
It's a really pristine bike. Has been used, but well cared for. I pretty much buy all my bikes in that condition (no brand new bike since 2001), and have never been let down yet! Just stoked to have a nice SS again. As I mentioned on flickr, should have never sold my original one!!! Michael, I don't know the type of tape, but it is nicer than the average run of the mill bar tape. I noticed that right away. On 8/22/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats! Beautiful bike. What kinda bartape is that? Looks real nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
If the bike world dispenses with both 559 and 571, I'll be SOL since my two customs use quote 26 inch unquote wheels. Fortunately I have a stash. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The 559 MTB world is getting smaller. I hear some fairly large MTB companies are more or less pulling the plug on 559. Santa Cruz comes to mind. Jim On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:14:48 PM UTC-5, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
David - the QB is beautiful! Are the shop pictures from the co op you told me about? Bob On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: It's a really pristine bike. Has been used, but well cared for. I pretty much buy all my bikes in that condition (no brand new bike since 2001), and have never been let down yet! Just stoked to have a nice SS again. As I mentioned on flickr, should have never sold my original one!!! Michael, I don't know the type of tape, but it is nicer than the average run of the mill bar tape. I noticed that right away. On 8/22/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats! Beautiful bike. What kinda bartape is that? Looks real nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv related items for sale; Riv Readers, grip kings, trunksack, rain pants, splats, etc...
Eric - what size are the rain pants? Bob (Indianapolis) On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:07 PM, EGNolan egno...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, I've got a lotta things I need to sell, it's just that time of year for me, I have pics of some of these things on flickrhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/sets/72157632162511851/, but will take pics of the rest post tonight: Rivendell Reader Collection 1-42 w/ only a couple missing multiples of some, w/ extra catalogs, misc flyers, etc.- not sure what I should charge, there've been some insane prices on ebay. If you're interested, make an offer and we can discuss. I don't want to hold on to them as I've read and re-read these things over over they're great, but it's time to pass them on. Grip Kings (nearly new)-$40 shipped cont US Trunk Sack Large in Green- 2nd owner, good shape, can include coroplast stiffener if desired- $ 70 shipped new ones here: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bastl-tan.htm MUSA rain pants (2nd owner, brown spot on the butt, not from poo, but saddle leakage. They work well, but are too orange for my rain jacket)-$40 shipped Splats Large (too big for me, will trade for Med. or sell) $12 shipped Showers Pass Med rain jacket (got on clearance from LBS for $90, wore twice)- $45 shipped Nitto Technomic (Would prefer to trade for Nitto Dirt Drop stem)- 11cm in good shape, 25.4 I believe- $35 shipped Raleigh Professional Fork (silver not chromed, fits a 35 w/o fenders, 32 w/ fenders, Pasela's at least)- $75 shipped Shimano LX 7 speed group from 1991 Scott Boulder(everything is in good working order, Biopace rings; includes: both der, triple crank working 3x7 shifters brake levers):$60 shipped Origin8 branded Tektro areo levers (black hoods, white lever; never used but no box)-$12 shipped Louis Garneau Winter bike shoes (these: http://www.performancebike.com/reviews/performance/power/pwr/product-reviews/Shoes-Pedals/Cycling-Shoes/Mountain-Shoes/LOUIS-GARNEAU/p/20__5379-Louis-Garneau-0-Ergo-Grip-Winter-Cycling-Shoe.html/ in size ~11; I'll verify for sure, but they're too big for me even w/ wool sox, like new, stored in garage so dusty, but only worn twice- $50 shipped If ANYTHING seems outta line or would interest you at a lower cost, please let me know. I'm looking to get rid of things not necessarily make or even recoup all my invested dollars. I also have some misc items like Arc bars from an XO-5, slingshot stem/bars from an old Trek 850, that'd I'd sell for $5 plus shipping if interested. Reply to e-mail I'll get back as quick as I can. Paypal is preferred, but please send money to your friend Eric rather than buying something. Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Thanks, Bob! And yes, that's the Redlands Bike BBQ in the pics a few down: http://www.bikebbq.com/ I hear they have great t-shirts! On 8/22/13, Robert Barr rcba...@gmail.com wrote: David - the QB is beautiful! Are the shop pictures from the co op you told me about? Bob On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: It's a really pristine bike. Has been used, but well cared for. I pretty much buy all my bikes in that condition (no brand new bike since 2001), and have never been let down yet! Just stoked to have a nice SS again. As I mentioned on flickr, should have never sold my original one!!! Michael, I don't know the type of tape, but it is nicer than the average run of the mill bar tape. I noticed that right away. On 8/22/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats! Beautiful bike. What kinda bartape is that? Looks real nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
And now officially on Google Street View: http://goo.gl/maps/a7a1e On 8/22/13, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Bob! And yes, that's the Redlands Bike BBQ in the pics a few down: http://www.bikebbq.com/ I hear they have great t-shirts! On 8/22/13, Robert Barr rcba...@gmail.com wrote: David - the QB is beautiful! Are the shop pictures from the co op you told me about? Bob On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: It's a really pristine bike. Has been used, but well cared for. I pretty much buy all my bikes in that condition (no brand new bike since 2001), and have never been let down yet! Just stoked to have a nice SS again. As I mentioned on flickr, should have never sold my original one!!! Michael, I don't know the type of tape, but it is nicer than the average run of the mill bar tape. I noticed that right away. On 8/22/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats! Beautiful bike. What kinda bartape is that? Looks real nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
I've wondered if you'd ever replace the QB... Congrats, and I hope you enjoy it like crazy. My AHH and my QB are quite satisfying. (But I'd still like to have a knobby-shod Hunq.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
It's always been one of those itches you just can't scratch... finally satiated! I think I still need some sort of dirt-bomb type bike, then, just maybe, I will have all the bikes I need. Although a folder would be cool. Maybe double squish 29er. Maybe a full on drop-bar 29er as well. Still want a Wilbury/Glorius come to think of it... On 8/22/13, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: I've wondered if you'd ever replace the QB... Congrats, and I hope you enjoy it like crazy. My AHH and my QB are quite satisfying. (But I'd still like to have a knobby-shod Hunq.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is it a bellwether? Pacenti blowing out their 559 rims for good.
I don't think they'll every do away with them, but they'll be relegated to entry level bikes only. I think it's Giant that's converting it's entire women-specific line up to 650B. Cool for the B movement, but not so cool for the woman that wants the perfectly rideable 26 bike. On 8/22/13, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: If the bike world dispenses with both 559 and 571, I'll be SOL since my two customs use quote 26 inch unquote wheels. Fortunately I have a stash. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The 559 MTB world is getting smaller. I hear some fairly large MTB companies are more or less pulling the plug on 559. Santa Cruz comes to mind. Jim On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:14:48 PM UTC-5, William wrote: Pacenti is apparently getting out of the 26 rim business. All their 559 rims that were previously $85 are now being blown out at $29. They are all disk only. His website is bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
There is a frequently seen Redlands Bike BBQ t-shirt in Indianapolis of all places! On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:30 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks, Bob! And yes, that's the Redlands Bike BBQ in the pics a few down: http://www.bikebbq.com/ I hear they have great t-shirts! On 8/22/13, Robert Barr rcba...@gmail.com wrote: David - the QB is beautiful! Are the shop pictures from the co op you told me about? Bob On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: It's a really pristine bike. Has been used, but well cared for. I pretty much buy all my bikes in that condition (no brand new bike since 2001), and have never been let down yet! Just stoked to have a nice SS again. As I mentioned on flickr, should have never sold my original one!!! Michael, I don't know the type of tape, but it is nicer than the average run of the mill bar tape. I noticed that right away. On 8/22/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats! Beautiful bike. What kinda bartape is that? Looks real nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv related items for sale; Riv Readers, grip kings, trunksack, rain pants, splats, etc...
Rain paints/Splats are sold. To clarify the Showers Pass is an older Elite jacket in Blue. There's no chest pocket for ear buds like the newer versions. A couple items have been requested, but no $ has been transferred. We'll see. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
On 08/22/2013 07:25 PM, William wrote: Steve buddy 1. I would never categorize you in most people, so you can be totally right about your gearing choices without disproving my assertion that most people can do just fine with a compact double. :-) I make no comment about most people. I've not done any sort of quantitative comparison and have no data. Every one has their individual gearing needs, and it pays to figure out what you need given your body, your fitness and the terrain in which you ride. 2. This is another datapoint proving that you've been unfairly maligned as a Jan Heine disciple. You like cantilever brakes and triples. If you were a true Jan-zealot you'd be on centerpulls and compact doubles. Steve learns from many, but makes up his own mind, people! I like centerpulls, too. One of my bikes has Mafac Raids, another has brazed on Paul Racers. I also like dual pivot sidepulls, in the right situation. 3. I agree that a compact double with an ultrawide cassette has big jumps. What I meant by a normal cassette was more like an 11-26 or an 11-28 with a 44/30. If you cannot possibly live without a sub 22 gear then I agree that a triple provides better coverage. On my touring bike I happily run a 3x8 where I need really low gears. Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. That insures that regardless of the cassette, when you do a front shift you will have a big, big difference between gears compared to a more typical 10 or 12 tooth shift.You also have to decide how large spacing between gears is good for you, and where in the range you like it close, vs where you like it wider (Patrick has written extensively on his preferences here, as has Jan; I couldn't live with either Patrick's or Jan's.) In general I agree 300% with your approach: Pick your high gear and your low gear and design it to cover the space with acceptable jumps, keeping an eye peeled for chain line. Double shifts are a lot less troublesome to me than you make it sound when my left side shifter never has to trim. Slam it against the stop for the big ring. Slam it against the stop for the small ring. Trimming isn't a problem for me (as a bar end shifter user). If/when I do it, I hardly even pay it any conscious attention. What you have to go through to do a double shift and stay reasonably in sequence is important to me. I would go mad if every time I needed a gear below 40 inches I'd have to cross over and upshift 3 or 4 at the same time, and I'd go mad if every time I shifted to the small ring it felt like I'd dropped the chain, or if every time I shifted from the small to the large chain ring it dropped my RPMs by half and doubled the pedal effort. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Custom Appaloosa Update
Liesl, Thanks for the update - I once took a spin on an old Motobecane Mixte with like-paired diagatubes. Thought it was really cool. Any ideas as to when this bike will become a reality? Can't wait for some pics! Aaron Young The Dalles, OR As always, your thoughts are welcomed! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
I have the 40/26 on my Sam with an 11-32? 8 speed in the back. In the 1000 miles I've ridden I have stick shifted into the granny only once, so I haven't put on a front derailer yet. If you are going to be using the 26 more than occasionally, the detailed analysis from Steve seems important. Edwin, living 1 by 8 almost all the time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
I got a Carradice Nelson recently and like it a lot. It's pretty big (about Medium Sackville Saddlesack size), so you may want a smaller Carradice like a Barley. They're cheapish, handsome, and durable. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.com wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update
Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. My jump is 47% between chainrings. That's much bigger than the 27% jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from your 24 to your 36. I don't know if I should go mad or not! On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:07:26 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/22/2013 07:25 PM, William wrote: Steve buddy 1. I would never categorize you in most people, so you can be totally right about your gearing choices without disproving my assertion that most people can do just fine with a compact double. :-) I make no comment about most people. I've not done any sort of quantitative comparison and have no data. Every one has their individual gearing needs, and it pays to figure out what you need given your body, your fitness and the terrain in which you ride. 2. This is another datapoint proving that you've been unfairly maligned as a Jan Heine disciple. You like cantilever brakes and triples. If you were a true Jan-zealot you'd be on centerpulls and compact doubles. Steve learns from many, but makes up his own mind, people! I like centerpulls, too. One of my bikes has Mafac Raids, another has brazed on Paul Racers. I also like dual pivot sidepulls, in the right situation. 3. I agree that a compact double with an ultrawide cassette has big jumps. What I meant by a normal cassette was more like an 11-26 or an 11-28 with a 44/30. If you cannot possibly live without a sub 22 gear then I agree that a triple provides better coverage. On my touring bike I happily run a 3x8 where I need really low gears. Regardless of the cassette in question, the big jump is due to the 53.8% difference between the chain rings. That insures that regardless of the cassette, when you do a front shift you will have a big, big difference between gears compared to a more typical 10 or 12 tooth shift.You also have to decide how large spacing between gears is good for you, and where in the range you like it close, vs where you like it wider (Patrick has written extensively on his preferences here, as has Jan; I couldn't live with either Patrick's or Jan's.) In general I agree 300% with your approach: Pick your high gear and your low gear and design it to cover the space with acceptable jumps, keeping an eye peeled for chain line. Double shifts are a lot less troublesome to me than you make it sound when my left side shifter never has to trim. Slam it against the stop for the big ring. Slam it against the stop for the small ring. Trimming isn't a problem for me (as a bar end shifter user). If/when I do it, I hardly even pay it any conscious attention. What you have to go through to do a double shift and stay reasonably in sequence is important to me. I would go mad if every time I needed a gear below 40 inches I'd have to cross over and upshift 3 or 4 at the same time, and I'd go mad if every time I shifted to the small ring it felt like I'd dropped the chain, or if every time I shifted from the small to the large chain ring it dropped my RPMs by half and doubled the pedal effort. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
I love my large SaddleSack from Riv. Very stable and rides on top the rear rack. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:40:35 PM UTC-6, Tom Goodmann wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv related items for sale; Riv Readers, grip kings, trunksack, rain pants, splats, etc...
TrunkSack Technomic stem are gone as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Not a Riv, but I wish there were more old barns in San Diego
This is just awesome.http://hetchinspete1.smugmug.com/Other/Jack-Taylor-Tandem-Circa-1966/31372033_pNCzC9#!i=2716379116k=Nnx9JR7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
The Large Saddlesack, or the Medium Saddlesack if you want something smaller. The advantage is the big opening, so it's easy to put books and a laptop in, and you can also fit a sweater or jacket, your lunch, and (with the Large) some groceries on the way home. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.com wrote: With a school year just about underway, I'm late to ask; looking for recommendations for a saddle bag--likely more flat than square--for ferrying books a notebook pc on a Sam or a Heron Touring. Each has a rear rack too, so panniers are another way to go, of course, but my first thought is for a saddle bag-style sort of brief case (behind a B-17, yup). Suggestions appreciated. --Tom in Miami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Love that orange! Great how it all came together for the purchase. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Opniel knives
I also have a Benchmade Mel Pardue axis lock, clipped to one of my fishing bags, that is the easiest one-hand open knife I've ever owned. I've had a Griptillian 556http://www.gpknives.com/benchmade-556s-mini-griptilian.htmlfor ages. Stays sharp, and with a drop of chain lube every year or three, the thing almost opens itself. I never really notice the miltary grade weapon look since the handle is always either clipped inside my pocket, or in my hand. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Not a Riv, but I wish there were more old barns in San Diego
That is Dy No Mite! On Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:02:35 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: This is just awesome.http://hetchinspete1.smugmug.com/Other/Jack-Taylor-Tandem-Circa-1966/31372033_pNCzC9#!i=2716379116k=Nnx9JR7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Not a Riv, but I wish there were more old barns in San Diego
Tom, That's a beaut! It's in incredible shape for it's age. Thanks for posting. ~Hugh On Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:02:35 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: This is just awesome.http://hetchinspete1.smugmug.com/Other/Jack-Taylor-Tandem-Circa-1966/31372033_pNCzC9#!i=2716379116k=Nnx9JR7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Happy New Bike Day (Orange Quickbeam Edition)!
Anne, the community part of the whole thing can't be stressed enough. Good people helping me all the way around! Robert: Way to represent! On 8/22/13, Anne speedyc...@comcast.net wrote: Love that orange! Great how it all came together for the purchase. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books
Swift Industries also has saddle bags (and other good stuff) that are worth checking out... http://builtbyswift.com Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] messing around with my Hunqapillar
I think the Dimension stems are beautiful. Very clean welds, high polish. And aesthetically, I don't know what's wrong with a pop-top stem. It looks 100% fine to my eye, and being able to change bars is 835% more convenient than a traditional quill. As to threadless in general, I definitely prefer them to threaded headsets/quills. I don't like adjusting threaded headsets at all, but the 5mm hex adjustment on thraeadless is just fantastic. YMMV of course :-) On 8/22/13, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I have a few of these stems, some Dimension branded, some Civia, and they are fantastic for the price. I'd love to see more pop top quills. Pragmatics beats aesthetics for me most of the time. I'm currently riding two bikes with quill stems the wrong length because I'm too lazy to replace the shellacked cork grips on them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv National Jamboree Poll
Just a comment, Juniper Camp up high on Mt. Diablo is *legal* and can be reserved ahead of time, plus it has *dozens* of sites, with picnic tables and toilets. Might be worth nabbing if'n there's a Walnut Creek Jamboree and folks are looking to camp out. It could be fantastic. http://www.tarol.com/mt_diablo_campsite_night.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2769325972_33d2c80232.jpg http://www.hiwhy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/mount-diablo-hdr-sunset.jpg - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.