date:20140227

Building a wheel is pretty fun and relatively easy to do a basic job on.
Especially when you have a specific build in mind. Have fun!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:53 AM, djbardwil djbard...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think so although it seems like a nice, reasonable set.  The 2
 speed hub is intriguing and I'd like to see if I can learn a thing or two
 about wheelbuilding on this bike.  A dynohub on the front would be neat.

 If anyone has any experience with this hub or just thoughts, I'd love to
 hear what should be considered.



 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36:07 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset
 they're selling as well?

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit
 my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came
 through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may
 have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It
 should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully
 as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to
 possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a
 wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some
 homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at
 the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the
 possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's
 done.

 I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and
 camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!

 Thanks -
 David





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[RBW] Riv Riders group on Chicago Chainlink

2014-02-27 Thread Conway Bennett

Marc,

Captain Conway in Andersonville here.  Hit me up off list and maybe we can 
stoke this fire.  I did a call out once before but never heard back.  I know of 
maybe 4 Riv riders in the area.  I'm on a 56 TTT storm blue/grey SH sans 
creamed head tube.  Also,  if you know anyone who wants a '92 XO-3 I have one 
for sale.

- Fair winds 

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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread iamkeith

Thanks, Michael.  If I understand correctly, you're saying to try to find 
an albastache bar that mistakenly had the wrong collar installed - not to 
find a smaller collar alone, to swap.   ( I guess that's the only way it 
would work, so of course that's what you're saying.)  I'll ask Riv, but 
I won't push them if it's really a time sink.   I might take the 
opportunity to ask if there are plans for bars in the other size though.  

I find it kind of curious that they would have chosen the 26.0 if there was 
going to be only one option.  There are currently three Nitto moustache 
bars in rotation in my household, and they're all 25.4.   And several dirt 
drop stems, all in 26.0.   Sometimes they get used together with shims, but 
more often not.  It's sure nice to have the flexibility of multiple options.



On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:50:49 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 A call to RBW might yield the odd 25.4 collar for 'ya if someone is nice 
 enough to sift through the stock and see if NITTO sent them an odd one.

 Preposterous!?!?! - you say?

 In 2013, I bought an advertised 26.0 NITTO Moustache from RBW and it 
 actually had a 25.4 collar - yet it was the correct Nitto road bike 
 'stache, not the NITTO MTB 'stache (which is 25.4, but the curves are 
 different, I think). One must have been mistakenly shipped to them along 
 with the regular 26-ers from NITTO.

 Me and them were both puzzled about this, but there it was, stamped into 
 the collar and calipered to show it. *The folks at RBW were very, 
 very nice to me* and let me exchange it for another bar.

 I would not alter your bar. Doesn't sound safe at all. Maybe others could 
 chime in.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

2014-02-27 Thread David Spranger

I built a wheel with the SRAM 2-speed hub (originally for my SimpleOne, but 
have since moved it to a different bike). I love this hub. It is different 
than the SA kickback in that it is not a kickback, but instead shifts 
automatically from one speed to the other at a preset point. For my wheel 
and tire size, that worked out to be around 12 mph. I preferred to have it 
shift at a slightly higher rate and, with instructions found on the 
internets, I was able to raise the shift point to about 15 mph. After a 
best guess of 15,000 miles or so, I can say that this hub seems very 
reliable. When I did open it up to change the shift points, I did clean it 
out real good, repacked the bearings and added some Phil's oil to splash 
around in there.

David
Charlotte, NC

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:53:19 AM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote:

 I don't think so although it seems like a nice, reasonable set.  The 2 
 speed hub is intriguing and I'd like to see if I can learn a thing or two 
 about wheelbuilding on this bike.  A dynohub on the front would be neat.

 If anyone has any experience with this hub or just thoughts, I'd love to 
 hear what should be considered.



 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36:07 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset 
 they're selling as well?

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil djba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit 
 my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came 
 through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may 
 have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It 
 should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully 
 as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to 
 possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a 
 wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some 
 homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at 
 the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the 
 possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's 
 done.

 I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
 camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!

 Thanks -
 David





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RE: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

2014-02-27 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J

I built a wheel for my MB-2 Resurrectio project using the SA 2 speed coaster 
brake kickback hub.  So far the hub has been very reliable, and it’s a great 
simple solution if you’re looking for just a little more gear range.  If I were 
doing it again, however, I’d prefer not to use the coaster brake iteration of 
the Kickback; sometimes braking and shifting attempts interact in an unexpected 
way (probably my lack of finesse).  SA does make a non-coaster brake version, 
and I bet that’s terrific.

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

I built a wheel with the SRAM 2-speed hub (originally for my SimpleOne, but 
have since moved it to a different bike). I love this hub. It is different than 
the SA kickback in that it is not a kickback, but instead shifts automatically 
from one speed to the other at a preset point. For my wheel and tire size, that 
worked out to be around 12 mph. I preferred to have it shift at a slightly 
higher rate and, with instructions found on the internets, I was able to raise 
the shift point to about 15 mph. After a best guess of 15,000 miles or so, I 
can say that this hub seems very reliable. When I did open it up to change the 
shift points, I did clean it out real good, repacked the bearings and added 
some Phil's oil to splash around in there.

David
Charlotte, NC

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:53:19 AM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote:
I don't think so although it seems like a nice, reasonable set.  The 2 speed 
hub is intriguing and I'd like to see if I can learn a thing or two about 
wheelbuilding on this bike.  A dynohub on the front would be neat.

If anyone has any experience with this hub or just thoughts, I'd love to hear 
what should be considered.



On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:36:07 PM UTC-5, 
cyclot...@gmail.commailto:cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Perfect, glad it has a good new home! You going to get the wheelset they're 
selling as well?

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal



On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:54 PM, djbardwil 
djba...@gmail.commailto:djba...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit my 
addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came through 
but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may have been 
limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It should be a 
great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully as I've never 
built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to possibly try out the 
Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a wheel build and possibly 
a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some homework on gearing, 
spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at the moment and each 
component will be a new decision point but, barring the possible S-A 
components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's done.

I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and camaraderie.  
Photos will prove the project is underway!

Thanks -
David





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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread Ryan

Not to be rude, but why do you need to keep your 25.4 stem besides cost? 
Could you get away with the Nitto Technomic, which is still a nice enough 
stem? I definitely think that taking material off the Albastaches is a bad 
idea. Or maybe someone has a 26.0mm stem that would work for you. I might 
have a 3TTT in 26.0mm in the parts bin that I was going to put on my 
Peugeot PX-10 w moustache bars, but it was way too low so I went with a 
Nitto Technomic deluxe. 
 
Ryan in Winnipeg, MB
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:29:54 PM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote:

  I've been building up a really special bike project this winter, but 
 just hit a snag.   It was intended to serve somewhere in the space between 
 a mountain bike and a road bike, for fast rides on bumpy roads  trails, 
 more mountain than road.   Having *finally* dialed-in and become 
 completely enamored with the original moustache bars on my road bike last 
 year, I thought that Albastache bars might be the perfect thing for this 
 build:  wider, less reach, and less drop.  But, as I prepared to order them 
 from Riv, I discovered (as most of you probably already knew) that they 
 only come in 26.0 clamp diameter. 

 Darn it!  I really need to keep my 25.4 stem.

 Has anybody ever had or heard of in success reducing the diameter of the 
 clamp area on a bar like this?   They have the extra aluminum sleeve, so I 
 don't think the bar integrity would be compromised.  But I don't have any 
 idea how to do it evenly so that there's still a nice round section.  
 Probably just file and sand, I guess?  My stem is welded steel, so it could 
 conform to a slightly irregular shape better than a forged one could.  

 Re-sale-ability be damned, is this a bad idea?  Likewise, has anybody 
 heard rumors of Riv  eventually releasing these in both clamp size 
 options?  Thoughts appreciated...




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[RBW] Re: Necessity is a Mother.

Grand adventure all through the week! Grin.Hugh, I wanted to comment on 
your upcoming rainy S24O, but can't for the life of me find that thread and 
Google search and I don't get along well. Could you or someone point me in 
the right direction please?

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread iamkeith

Not rude at all.  Probably hard for most to understand my reasoning, 
though.  The bike is a really rare,  Ritchey softtail.  It has an almost as 
hard-to-find 1 steerer suspension fork, that requires a threadless 
headset.  And I have the period-correct Ritchey-labeled, threadless, 
nitto-built stem, that would have put the bars exactly where I wanted 
them.  I know I can get plenty of newer stems that would work, but I really 
wanted it to look right, being such a special bike.   Hope that makes 
sense.  Thanks for the offer of the stem, in any case.  Much appreciated!  
I'll probably just have to use flat bars in the end.

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:39:15 AM UTC-7, Ryan wrote:

 Not to be rude, but why do you need to keep your 25.4 stem besides cost? 
 Could you get away with the Nitto Technomic, which is still a nice enough 
 stem? I definitely think that taking material off the Albastaches is a bad 
 idea. Or maybe someone has a 26.0mm stem that would work for you. I might 
 have a 3TTT in 26.0mm in the parts bin that I was going to put on my 
 Peugeot PX-10 w moustache bars, but it was way too low so I went with a 
 Nitto Technomic deluxe. 



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[RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

2014-02-27 Thread EGNolan



 I try to abstain from too many set things in my life. I have work from 
 8:30-5 every day, that seems to be enough. I like the flexibility of doing 
 things when they work and not feeling guilty when they don't. Scheduling 
 activities, especially if others are joining you, is sometimes necessary, 
 but it can also make the activity feel like a burden. 


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[RBW] Reflection on S24O/Mo

Hughes almost two month journey in this endeavor and the challenge he's having 
fitting in February's S24O got me thinking on a number of fronts, and I'd love 
to hear other's thoughts:

-- The intriguing thing to me about going at least once a month is the 
creativity and wonder and joy of experiencing beauty in all types of weather. 
Well, for me personally, I get that range already, so I don't need the 
imposition of whether I go by bike, ski pulk, or for more than one night. If I 
accidentally accomplish it, then cool. Grin.

-- I have enough challenges that for me the idea of an imposed schedule would 
be a burden rather than a freedom, though I can easily see how the structure 
could lead to freedom for others.

That's as far as I've gotten and I'd love to hear your experience and thoughts.

With abandon,
Patrick

www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
www.OurHolyConception.org

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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread Ryan

OH..I .see what you mean. That is a problem. Albastache bars would be nice 
but...I guess it's down to flat bars or maybe with a slight rise in 25.4? I 
know in the Bstone era there were 25.4 M-bars made by Hsin Leung which were 
not exactly the same as the Nitto-built 26.0 on the X0-1's. Maybe a pair of 
those could be found on fleabay or craigslist? They are not the jewelry 
that the Nittos are, but if  Grant specced them on the midrange models , 
they're not crappy either
 
A lot of internet bobbers are on this list, but perhaps you could try 
posting on internet-bob, too. Good luck with your search; sounds like a 
neat bike.
 
(I am a big fan of Moustache bars myself; I have them on 3 bikes and I have 
2 NIP just in case. 1 pair is going on my Peugeot, though as its bars are 
the stock ones that came off my X0-1. A good idea to replace them after 20 
years, I think)
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:09:35 AM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote:

 Not rude at all.  Probably hard for most to understand my reasoning, 
 though.  The bike is a really rare,  Ritchey softtail.  It has an almost as 
 hard-to-find 1 steerer suspension fork, that requires a threadless 
 headset.  And I have the period-correct Ritchey-labeled, threadless, 
 nitto-built stem, that would have put the bars exactly where I wanted 
 them.  I know I can get plenty of newer stems that would work, but I really 
 wanted it to look right, being such a special bike.   Hope that makes 
 sense.  Thanks for the offer of the stem, in any case.  Much appreciated!  
 I'll probably just have to use flat bars in the end.

 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:39:15 AM UTC-7, Ryan wrote: 

  Not to be rude, but why do you need to keep your 25.4 stem besides 
 cost? Could you get away with the Nitto Technomic, which is still a nice 
 enough stem? I definitely think that taking material off the Albastaches is 
 a bad idea. Or maybe someone has a 26.0mm stem that would work for you. I 
 might have a 3TTT in 26.0mm in the parts bin that I was going to put on my 
 Peugeot PX-10 w moustache bars, but it was way too low so I went with a 
 Nitto Technomic deluxe. 



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[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

2014-02-27 Thread Minh

Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about 
gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching 
in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front.  if you have the 
wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast 
you adjust to a single gear.

nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there is 
something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on 
riding.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote:

 Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit 
 my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came 
 through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may 
 have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It 
 should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully 
 as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to 
 possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a 
 wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some 
 homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at 
 the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the 
 possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's 
 done.

 I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
 camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!

 Thanks -
 David



  

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[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

2014-02-27 Thread djbardwil


Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake.

Minh - You are right on the argument.  Simple and pure is what I want with 
this build as well as a new perspective on riding.  A broadening of 
horizons







On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote:

 Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried about 
 gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both switching 
 in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front.  if you have the 
 wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at how fast 
 you adjust to a single gear.

 nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there 
 is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on 
 riding.

 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote:

 Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit 
 my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came 
 through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may 
 have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It 
 should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully 
 as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to 
 possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a 
 wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some 
 homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at 
 the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the 
 possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's 
 done.

 I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
 camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!

 Thanks -
 David



  

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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread Kevin Mulcahy

Would anyone else suggest installing the 26.0 bars in the 25.4 quill? I've 
done it a couple times and have lived to tell about it. If you spread the 
clamp as you install you won't even scratch the bars. 

Kevin
Chicago, IL 

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders group on Chicago Chainlink

2014-02-27 Thread Kevin Mulcahy

I'm in Humboldt Park.  See ya in the group!

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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

In my pre-Atlantis days, I did not know about road vs MTB stems  bar 
diameters.  To get the bars on my UJB road bike up higher, I picked up a 
cheap MTB stem off the bargain table at my LBS and spronged it open to 
shove my existing drop bars into it.  Had to a bit of prying  futzing to 
get the bolt to line up, but assumed all the fuss was because it was a 
poorly made stem.  Rode that set-up for thousands of miles  several years 
without incident.  Now that I know better, I try to do things right, but 
it's interesting what you can do when you don't know you can't. :-)

dougP

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:55:58 AM UTC-8, Kevin Mulcahy wrote:

 Would anyone else suggest installing the 26.0 bars in the 25.4 quill? I've 
 done it a couple times and have lived to tell about it. If you spread the 
 clamp as you install you won't even scratch the bars. 

 Kevin
 Chicago, IL 


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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

I was thinking of doing a kickstarter for a new product that I think has a 
real market in the bicycle industry.  I want to develop negative-space 
antimatter handlebar and seatpost shims.  Using my -0.6mm thick bubbashim 
you could shim down a 26.0mm handlebar to fit into a 25.4mm stem clamp.  

What do you think?

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:09:35 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote:

 Not rude at all.  Probably hard for most to understand my reasoning, 
 though.  The bike is a really rare,  Ritchey softtail.  It has an almost as 
 hard-to-find 1 steerer suspension fork, that requires a threadless 
 headset.  And I have the period-correct Ritchey-labeled, threadless, 
 nitto-built stem, that would have put the bars exactly where I wanted 
 them.  I know I can get plenty of newer stems that would work, but I really 
 wanted it to look right, being such a special bike.   Hope that makes 
 sense.  Thanks for the offer of the stem, in any case.  Much appreciated!  
 I'll probably just have to use flat bars in the end.

 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:39:15 AM UTC-7, Ryan wrote:

 Not to be rude, but why do you need to keep your 25.4 stem besides cost? 
 Could you get away with the Nitto Technomic, which is still a nice enough 
 stem? I definitely think that taking material off the Albastaches is a bad 
 idea. Or maybe someone has a 26.0mm stem that would work for you. I might 
 have a 3TTT in 26.0mm in the parts bin that I was going to put on my 
 Peugeot PX-10 w moustache bars, but it was way too low so I went with a 
 Nitto Technomic deluxe. 



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[RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

When you have a regular schedule such as work, school, etc., it is nice to 
have your free time be truly free.  However, if you don't look a bit 
forward  decide, for instance, this weekend I'm going camping it's too 
easy for time to just slide by.  There's a balance there somewhere that may 
differ for each of us.  I know people who schedule themselves out months in 
advance as well as people who don't think about the weekend until Thursday 
night.  I think the key is if an activity feels like a burden or instills 
guilt then it may be smart to back off a bit.  Think about ride my bike 
every day, come rain, snow, or sleet  Something we all enjoy but sheesh 
that would quickly get old for me.  

dougP

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:23:38 AM UTC-8, EGNolan wrote:

 I try to abstain from too many set things in my life. I have work from 
 8:30-5 every day, that seems to be enough. I like the flexibility of doing 
 things when they work and not feeling guilty when they don't. Scheduling 
 activities, especially if others are joining you, is sometimes necessary, 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

Chris,

Yeah it's a pain I have to live with. I'll survive.

List member Mike Shiller posted a WTB release note about the Nano heck it
may have been on this same topic? It gets all jumbled together :-)  But the
Nano looks interesting and a tire of serious contention, it's relativity
light weight, has good knobby tread and is supposed to roll pretty fast on
pavement. There are so many choices in the 26 field.

I think that's interesting that you really do prefer the 26 even after
riding the 700c. One of the things I liked about the 700c when I had a
race/road bike was just how much distance I could cover quickly. Once you
get those wheels up to speed they're really efficient. But that's usually a
bike with only one purpose. These days I like to go where I want to go and
that means dirt too and carrying bags.

In terms of the Troll and Ogre, I don't really know enough about them to
really speak cogently but the fat tire bikes are tempting as it would open
up previously un-ride able areas to me. But then I've committed myself to
the Rivendell's. I'd have to sell one of them to buy another bicycle, so
I'd say I'm a long way off from pulling the trigger on one of those. Funny
how we are influenced by those outside opinions, sometimes with little to
no firm merit.

The ride the divide is awesome. I think the Atlantis could be used for that
ride running 2.1 or larger tires. But I'd do it on a more leisurely pace
not to compete.

I'm hoping to document the build up of the Atlantis and give feedback on
the differences between the AAH and the Atlantis. It should be a fun
process.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Chris Lampe 2 clampe9...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I feel your pain.

 My existance right now consists of obsessing about whether to buy a Troll
 frameset or simply transfer my new components over to the old 820.
  Sometimes I even throw getting an Ogre frameset into the mix, which would
 let me use my Rich Lesnik built 700c wheels.  It's usually some outside
 influence that leads me to consider the Ogre, something like reading
 someone's experiences or rewatching Ride the Divide.  It usually just
 takes one comparison ride between my 700c and 26 bike to swing me back to
 26 wheels.

 I've read that the WBT Nano is the number one choice for Great Divide
 riders.  It appears to be a not-too-aggressive multi-surface tire of high
 quality.  It might be worth some research if you haven't looked into it
 yet.

 I'll be curious to hear your experiences with your Atlantis.  That bike is
 basically the prototype for what I want, although sometimes I find myself
 wanting an actual MTB, like the Troll.


 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:34:04 AM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Chris,

 Interesting, the 26 Atlantis I'm building up as a off road beasty for
 rough stuff bike camping...I'm still debating what knobby tires I'll run? I
 currently have some Big Ben's for it but not sure they're the road tires
 I'll want. Lots of folks swear by the Schwalbe supreme's.

 Anyway, one of my concerns lately with all the talk of 650b  29ers is
 riding for distance...it seems so many folks are super concerned with
 efficiency,  read that as speed.  So yeah it has been messing with my head.
 Just need to build it and ride it, then I'll have some feedback.

 -Hugh
 On Feb 26, 2014 4:11 PM, Chris Lampe 2 clamp...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Keep in mind that I'm not a mountain biker and other than riding gravel
 roads way back when, all my riding is on pavement.

 I can't say how much is the fat tires themselves.  The difference
 between my 40mm and my 55mm tires is far larger than the numbers would
 suggest.  I think it's that old volume thingwith the 55mm tires having
 a lot more.  The closest I've come to riding a 700c fatter tire was a short
 test ride on a Surly Karate Monkey and it lacked something that both my old
 820 and the new Troll I test rode have.

 I tend to ride like a little kid, meaning I don't ride from point A to
 point B.  My favorite place to ride (when it's not packed with pedestrians)
 is the walking path in our subdivision.  This is a typical sidewalk on
 gently rolling terrain and I don't think there is a true straight stretch
 of sidewalk that is longer than a few yards.  Tons of curves with some
 twists and turns while speeding up and slowing down, according to the path.
  My experience is that the 26 wheels accelerate faster and are far more
 maneuverable than 700c wheels.  The entry I use to the walkway is a gutter
 that is at a 90 degree angle to the sidewalk with curb on either side so
 there is no room for error when making that turn.  It's a bit scary on 700c
 x 40mm tires but a breeze on 559 x 55mm tires.  I think it boils down to a
 ride that is very nimble and quick while still being very smooth and cushy.

 I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-02-27 Thread Anne Paulson

I've asked this before, but how wide tires does a 26 Atlantis take? I'm
skeptical mine would take anything wider than 2.1.

People do the Divide on touring bikes. It works. But if you read the
journals of people on touring bikes, you see them taking paved detours a
lot.


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:


 The ride the divide is awesome. I think the Atlantis could be used for
 that ride running 2.1 or larger tires. But I'd do it on a more leisurely
 pace not to compete.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-02-27 Thread Tom Virgil

Hugh,

Medicine dance is working.

Awesome job.

Tom

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:13:28 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

Tony,

Don't be jealous, were in major a drought I can't remember the last time
we had rain?? And the high pressure pushing the jet stream North and East
has created an inversion layer which traps nitrogen oxide and carbon
particulates close to the ground making breathing a bummer. Yeah it's nice
to have Sunny days in the 80's but then there's the too much of a good
thing issue.

I'm about to do a medicine dance to summon the rain Gods.

So bundle up and take a short ride in that blustery weather my friend.

~Hugh

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moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:

Hugh,

I'm with you, I haven't ridden that much since the new tires are on but I
love the look of the bike... rough and ready... I did take it out in the
snow tonight for my shift at the bike co-op. Really short ride but on my
way home I strayed into a small park with plenty of snow on grass with tree
roots. I felt like a little kid, lots of fun! Not going anywhere, not
logging miles, only spending about 10 min really...

The tires did great on the streets which are still a bit of a mess in my
neighborhood, hardpack snow, salt, black ice, and clear pavement all in
random patches. On the snowy park I was definitely able to loose traction
with some turns but for such small tread they gave me more confidence than
I had anticipated. Enough that I'm actually contemplating commuting
tomorrow. Going to be mighty cold, I'll make the call in the morning.

The DIY studs are intriguing! Might be a fun project though I'm not sure
these tires are a good candidate. I'm definitely jealous of your
snow-less, moderate to amazing constant weather patterns!

Tony

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:03 AM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:

Tony,

Don't know why but I think fat tires on an Atlantis just looks right.
And those Kenda's look great. Here's a
DIYhttp://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/studded-nate-grip-studs/for
studded tires...since it doesn't snow in LA really no reason for
studs...on the matter of snow and fenders I've seen never experienced the
jam up and it seems like not running with them in snow sort of makes sense,
and what Steve P. said about the flat fender I believe is correct perhaps
wear something to protect against the wet strip up the back.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in
session till July 4th at this rate! Supposedly we're in for our biggest
snowfall since 2011 but I'll believe it when I see it. I don't have true
snow tires, but I did pick up some sweet used 29x2.1 Kenda Small Block
Eight tires at the co-op recently and had been hoping to try them out on
my
Atlantis. 700Cx54mm tires! I need to measure the actuals on my 23mm Dyad
rims but they fit just fine once the fenders came off. I also finally got
around to moutning my front Nitto rack/basket/light setup. Peter White
can
rest assured that I've maintained the centerline, above tire location of
the light but he'll be upset that I don't have fender coverage for the
beastie... I'll keep an eye on it and possibly add some kind of splash
protection. It's a sweet light, and I can see based on the light pattern
why keeping it center and over tire is desireable. Stand over w/ the
monster tires is not improved for me... predictably, but it is fun. I'm
going to take it for a spin this morning before the snow comes in then
we'll see about later! More pix on the blog -
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/monster-snow-cross-atlantis.html

Tony

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7RiNKo6Y7qQ/Ut5sIUqO9SI/DGQ/RuEQK8JVgD8/s1600/RAD_1040.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G_p7K346CpU/Ut5sIcpa1PI/DGk/7zjswNk1ajo/s1600/RAD_1042.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover things 
better than 26 wheels...

True but in reality not a huge difference.  A BQ article on tires contained 
a graphic comparing the angle of a 700 wheel vs a 26 against a block maybe 
4 tall (?).  The difference in the angle was surprisingly small  
personally I doubt I'd notice the difference.

Hugh, I look forward to comparing my 700 wheeled Atlantis to your 26.  

dougP

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:11:09 PM UTC-8, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

 Keep in mind that I'm not a mountain biker and other than riding gravel 
 roads way back when, all my riding is on pavement.  

 I can't say how much is the fat tires themselves.  The difference between 
 my 40mm and my 55mm tires is far larger than the numbers would suggest.  I 
 think it's that old volume thingwith the 55mm tires having a lot more. 
  The closest I've come to riding a 700c fatter tire was a short test ride 
 on a Surly Karate Monkey and it lacked something that both my old 820 and 
 the new Troll I test rode have.  

 I tend to ride like a little kid, meaning I don't ride from point A to 
 point B.  My favorite place to ride (when it's not packed with pedestrians) 
 is the walking path in our subdivision.  This is a typical sidewalk on 
 gently rolling terrain and I don't think there is a true straight stretch 
 of sidewalk that is longer than a few yards.  Tons of curves with some 
 twists and turns while speeding up and slowing down, according to the path. 
  My experience is that the 26 wheels accelerate faster and are far more 
 maneuverable than 700c wheels.  The entry I use to the walkway is a gutter 
 that is at a 90 degree angle to the sidewalk with curb on either side so 
 there is no room for error when making that turn.  It's a bit scary on 700c 
 x 40mm tires but a breeze on 559 x 55mm tires.  I think it boils down to a 
 ride that is very nimble and quick while still being very smooth and cushy. 

 I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover things 
 better than 26 wheels and that 700c wheels maintain their momentum better 
 and the latter, at least, seems to be true in my experience (I never roll 
 over things so no experience with the first).   Riding my 700c bike is fun 
 but almost bordering on boring.  Riding a 26 bike is both exhilarating and 
 it literally makes me feel like a little kid again.  For me, a long ride is 
 10 miles so the 26 wheels are a no-brainer.  If I was more into traveling 
 and riding longer distances, I'd have to do some soul-searching before 
 making a firm commitment to one or the other.  

  

 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:34:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Chris, 

 I too have been lusting after fat tire Atlantis...I don't see that many. 
 Here's one I like a lot.


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815790104/in/pool-rivendellatlantis/

 and another 


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8541167230/in/pool-rivendellatlantis

 But I am curious Chris what is it about the 26 wheel size that has you 
 so smitten. It's especially interesting when there is so much talk of 29ers 
 and 650b tires. Please elucidate. 

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Chris Lampe 2 clamp...@yahoo.comwrote:

 For the longest time, a photo of an Atlantis on Peter White's website 
 that is described as being outfitted with his best parts was my favorite 
 Atlantis photo.  Now it's this one.  I've become hooked on the 26 
 wheel/fat-tire combo.  Nothing else looks or feels as good to me now and 
 the Atlantis, with it's traditional diamond frame, just looks TOUGH with 
 fat knobbies.  I haven't had the pleasure of riding one yet.  
  
  

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:11:56 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in 
 session till July 4th at this rate!  Supposedly we're in for our biggest 
 snowfall since 2011 but I'll believe it when I see it.  I don't have true 
 snow tires, but I did pick up some sweet used 29x2.1 Kenda Small Block 
 Eight tires at the co-op recently and had been hoping to try them out on 
 my 
 Atlantis.  700Cx54mm tires!  I need to measure the actuals on my 23mm Dyad 
 rims but they fit just fine once the fenders came off.  I also finally got 
 around to moutning my front Nitto rack/basket/light setup.  Peter White 
 can 
 rest assured that I've maintained the centerline, above tire location of 
 the light but he'll be upset that I don't have fender coverage for the 
 beastie...  I'll keep an eye on it and possibly add some kind of splash 
 protection.  It's a sweet light, and I can see based on the light pattern 
 why keeping it center and over tire is desireable.  Stand over w/ the 
 monster tires is not improved for me... predictably, but it is fun.  I'm 
 going to take it for a spin this

[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread Garth

Is the Nitto stem an open face, 2 or 4 bolt design ?   If so, you could 
likely use the Alba's without a problem. 

If it's not open, surely you can find another stem that can offer the same 
bike position.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Lampe 2

If you decide to try the Nano's I'll be interested in your experience.  I 
plan to buy at least one set of knobby tires and they are high on my list.
 
Surly markets the Ogre and the Troll as touring bikes but they are 
literally just a Karate Monkey (29'er MTB) and a 1 x 1 (26 MTB) with all 
the braze-ons you need for touring plus they have mounts for canti-studs, 
which is huge for me.  
 
I would love to spend some time riding 55mm BA's on a 700c bike, 
particularly something like the Hunqapillar or Velo-Orange's upcoming 
Camargue.  I might find it's more the tires than the wheel size.   
 
So many ideas to try.so little money to spend trying them.   
 

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:03:44 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Chris,

 Yeah it's a pain I have to live with. I'll survive.

 List member Mike Shiller posted a WTB release note about the Nano heck it 
 may have been on this same topic? It gets all jumbled together :-)  But the 
 Nano looks interesting and a tire of serious contention, it's relativity 
 light weight, has good knobby tread and is supposed to roll pretty fast on 
 pavement. There are so many choices in the 26 field.

 I think that's interesting that you really do prefer the 26 even after 
 riding the 700c. One of the things I liked about the 700c when I had a 
 race/road bike was just how much distance I could cover quickly. Once you 
 get those wheels up to speed they're really efficient. But that's usually a 
 bike with only one purpose. These days I like to go where I want to go and 
 that means dirt too and carrying bags.

 In terms of the Troll and Ogre, I don't really know enough about them to 
 really speak cogently but the fat tire bikes are tempting as it would open 
 up previously un-ride able areas to me. But then I've committed myself to 
 the Rivendell's. I'd have to sell one of them to buy another bicycle, so 
 I'd say I'm a long way off from pulling the trigger on one of those. Funny 
 how we are influenced by those outside opinions, sometimes with little to 
 no firm merit.

 The ride the divide is awesome. I think the Atlantis could be used for 
 that ride running 2.1 or larger tires. But I'd do it on a more leisurely 
 pace not to compete.

 I'm hoping to document the build up of the Atlantis and give feedback on 
 the differences between the AAH and the Atlantis. It should be a fun 
 process.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Chris Lampe 2 
 clamp...@yahoo.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I feel your pain.

 My existance right now consists of obsessing about whether to buy a Troll 
 frameset or simply transfer my new components over to the old 820. 
  Sometimes I even throw getting an Ogre frameset into the mix, which would 
 let me use my Rich Lesnik built 700c wheels.  It's usually some outside 
 influence that leads me to consider the Ogre, something like reading 
 someone's experiences or rewatching Ride the Divide.  It usually just 
 takes one comparison ride between my 700c and 26 bike to swing me back to 
 26 wheels.

 I've read that the WBT Nano is the number one choice for Great Divide 
 riders.  It appears to be a not-too-aggressive multi-surface tire of high 
 quality.  It might be worth some research if you haven't looked into it 
 yet.  

 I'll be curious to hear your experiences with your Atlantis.  That bike 
 is basically the prototype for what I want, although sometimes I find 
 myself wanting an actual MTB, like the Troll.  


 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:34:04 AM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Chris,

 Interesting, the 26 Atlantis I'm building up as a off road beasty for 
 rough stuff bike camping...I'm still debating what knobby tires I'll run? I 
 currently have some Big Ben's for it but not sure they're the road tires 
 I'll want. Lots of folks swear by the Schwalbe supreme's. 

 Anyway, one of my concerns lately with all the talk of 650b  29ers is 
 riding for distance...it seems so many folks are super concerned with 
 efficiency,  read that as speed.  So yeah it has been messing with my head. 
 Just need to build it and ride it, then I'll have some feedback.

 -Hugh
 On Feb 26, 2014 4:11 PM, Chris Lampe 2 clamp...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Keep in mind that I'm not a mountain biker and other than riding gravel 
 roads way back when, all my riding is on pavement.  

 I can't say how much is the fat tires themselves.  The difference 
 between my 40mm and my 55mm tires is far larger than the numbers would 
 suggest.  I think it's that old volume thingwith the 55mm tires having 
 a lot more.  The closest I've come to riding a 700c fatter tire was a 
 short 
 test ride on a Surly Karate Monkey and it lacked something that both my 
 old 
 820 and the new Troll I test rode have.  

 I tend to ride like a little kid, meaning I don't ride from point A to 
 point B.  My favorite place to ride (when it's

[RBW] Re: Bunyan Velo No. 4

2014-02-27 Thread oldmangabe

Thanks Mike!

Gabe

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:45:22 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:


 Just makes me want to buy a fatbike even more.

 Gabe's story of crossing into Cal from Oregon was very well done.  Lots of 
 great writers and adventures.  

 ~mike


 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:17:37 PM UTC-8, rperks wrote:

 Many of you here may already know this, but Bunyan Velo No. 4 hit the 
 digital street today:

 http://bunyanvelo.com

 Click on issues up in the top right corner.  Lucas does this with little 
 of no ads, and the donations part helps keep the next issue coming. 

 Enjoy

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[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

.and it sold for just under $1000.  That's pretty fair for both the 
buyer and the seller, I'd think.  Buyer gets a whole bike for something 
like $1500 new, rides it for several years and gets more than half his 
money back.  Good deal for him.  Meanwhile, a modestly equipped Rivendell 
road bike climbed to ~$2200 in price so the buyer got a decent deal as 
well.  

On Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:00:41 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Not mine, but it's in Connecticut, so we have lots of listers who could 
 scope it out for you:

 ebay Redwood in 
 GREENhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/65cm-Rivendell-Redwood-Bicycle-/291086585595?_trksid=p2056016.l4276


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[RBW] Re: Bunyan Velo No. 4

Nice Coffee Outside write up, Rob! 

I am not seeing a way for active notification of new issues. Am I missing 
it?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:17:37 PM UTC-7, rperks wrote:

 Many of you here may already know this, but Bunyan Velo No. 4 hit the 
 digital street today:

 http://bunyanvelo.com

 Click on issues up in the top right corner.  Lucas does this with little 
 of no ads, and the donations part helps keep the next issue coming. 

 Enjoy

 Rob


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Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

Hey Guy's,

Well I think it's about time to call this adventure off officially. Mother
nature has conspired to throw a wrench into our plans...as I type this the
sun is shinning and it's just gorgeous but we all know that can change on a
dime!

I checked the NOAA site and a Hazardous Weather outlook is still in effect.
For those of you not in our southerly clime we are not faint of heart, we
are though not as prepared to contend with heavy rain, as when it does rain
here it's not a Seattle drizzle it dumps down hard and intense. Then
there's the fact that since we've been in a drought the earth is dry and
will become a muddy mess rapidly.
because our Northern friends have been a bogarting.

Happy trails to you all.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 the train up to Ventura  on 2/28 is 761
 train from Moorpark south is 784 leaves Moorpark at 324 pm

 guess I need to drag out my rain gear.

 We could add some distance Friday if it's muddy on dirt and go up 33
 aways. It's a  nice ride up there.

 ~mike


 On Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:32:11 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Curtis,

 What Mike said is correct we will be stopping in Ojai for food ect.

 Yes there is rain in the forecast but I'm preparing for rain and will
 ride and camp. If it does rain I think it would be wise to skip the Sulfur
 Mountain section as it'll be muddy. So we'd ride up the bike trail to Ojai
 then swing back down to Lake Casitas and camp. There is always the Ojai
 Rancho Inn if things go really side-ways.

 I'm planning on purchasing my Amtrak tickets from Burbank to Ventura and
 then Moorpark to Burbank. Mike what are the train numbers? Especially the
 Moorpark one. I'll buy them on Wednesday or Thursday.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Mike Schiller 
 mikey...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 I did't get out on the bike today.

 I'm sure we will be stopping for liquid refreshment and maybe some food
 too.

 ~mike


 On Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:35:58 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

 Mike,

 Were you riding on Manchester today?

 Also, do you think the group will be stopping for some supplies in
 Ojai?  I do no want to run afoul of the collective.

 Curtis

 On Sunday, February 23, 2014, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.com
 wrote:

 we will ride thru Ojai before camping on Friday night.  Plenty of food
 and other items available.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:45:05 AM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

 70 percent chance of rain for Friday.

 For planning purposes only.  Will we be going near a food store later
 in the day on Friday?  If so I may buy food at that time. If not I will
 bring the needed calories.

 Thanks

 Curtis

 On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.com
 wrote:

 Did I miss an email?  A JTree overnight?   March is filling up fast.

 I'll be on the same train(s) with Curtis.  I would guess we will be
 there before 10am after loading up and the long ride under the freeway 
 to
 Rob's.

 ~mike


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[RBW] Re: Mini-Beam

2014-02-27 Thread Philip Williamson

I have a Quickbeam. I'm obsessed with gearing, and always come back to 
about a 72. Currently I'm re-enamored of fixed gear riding, with a single 
44t ring, a 15t cog and a 17/21 dingle cog. 

I do have a Sachs Automatic wheel with a coaster brake, and I agree that 
the coaster brake messes up my mojo. I have considered the S2 (no C) hub, 
and will probably build one at some point. The Quickbeam is great - I'd 
ride mine anywhere, in any terrain, on any surface. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:42:58 AM UTC-8, djbardwil wrote:


 Pudge - If I go with the SA 2 speed, it would be without coaster brake.

 Minh - You are right on the argument.  Simple and pure is what I want with 
 this build as well as a new perspective on riding.  A broadening of 
 horizons







 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote:

 Just a thought, when i got my QB, i also was (unnecessarily) worried 
 about gearing, additional speeds and now that i've had it i never both 
 switching in the rear (WI DUO) and switched to a single-ring front.  if you 
 have the wheels already to get it on the road, you might be surprised at 
 how fast you adjust to a single gear.

 nothing wrong if you really want to mess with the SA 2 speeds, but there 
 is something pure about a single-speed QB that changes your perspective on 
 riding.

 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:54:23 PM UTC-5, djbardwil wrote:

 Well, I am thrilled to be the very lucky winner of the auction and admit 
 my addiction to Rivendell.  I was a bit surprised that only one bid came 
 through but it is a small frame and the dead of winter so the audience may 
 have been limited.  Apparently, there are only 30 of these 50 cm QBs.  It 
 should be a great project and I intend to take it slowly and thoughtfully 
 as I've never built up a non-derailleur bicycle.  Initial thought was to 
 possibly try out the Sturmey-Archer 2-speed Kickback hub as the basis of a 
 wheel build and possibly a Sturmey-Archer crankset but I'll need to do some 
 homework on gearing, spacing, chainline etc.  Nothing is set in stone at 
 the moment and each component will be a new decision point but, barring the 
 possible S-A components, it will clearly be a Rivendell build when it's 
 done.

 I enjoy this group very much and value your input, stories, and 
 camaraderie.  Photos will prove the project is underway!

 Thanks -
 David



  

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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread M D Smith



On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:55:58 AM UTC-5, Kevin Mulcahy wrote:

 Would anyone else suggest installing the 26.0 bars in the 25.4 quill? I've 
 done it a couple times and have lived to tell about it. If you spread the 
 clamp as you install you won't even scratch the bars. 

 Kevin
 Chicago, IL 


To which I reply:

PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT

I have seen a number of aluminum handlebars fail, usually catastrophically, 
often ending in horrible scenarios.  (Full disclosure, 3 or 4 times, once 
horribly, always scary.)  100% of the time it has been due to a mismatch in 
handlebar sleeve diameter to stem bore diameter.  A classic (pardon the 
pun) situation is the dude who thinks his old (sorry, super cool vintage) 
 Cinelli or TTT (26.4mm) stem is close enough to his fancy 26.0mm 
handlebar or vice versa but it is analogous to trying a 26 in a 25.4 stem.  
Yes, you can get it to fit.  The issue is that in order to get it tight 
enough not to rotate you've got to torque the sh*t out of it.  That results 
in the bar going ever so slightly out of round, which creates two big 
stress risers smack in the middle of the bar.  Aluminum really doesn't like 
this.  Next time you are riding, particularly out of the saddle, try to 
imagine how much force is applied due to the leverage from your hands (and 
all your body weight) at the end of those bars to the junction of the stem 
and bar.  The reason we all love Nitto so much is because of their (real, 
implied, imaginary?) higher standards of quality control.  By jamming a 
handlebar into a mismatched stem you will be defeating everything that 
Nitto's engineers designed and putting yourself in real risk of serious 
injury.

Sorry to yell, but this is a really dangerous idea and I can't address it 
without envisioning the specter of my buddy's f*cked-up face after he hit 
the ground due to forcing the wrong sized bar into a stem.  His bike looked 
wicked retro-cool though!!!

-Mike in frigid Htfd, CT

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[RBW] Anyone in San Diego who can loan me a bike for two weeks?

2014-02-27 Thread Anton Tutter

My work is taking me to San Diego for two weeks at the end of 
April/beginning of May.  Naturally I'm going to want to have a bike with me 
but there's no way my company is going to pay to ship a bike there and back.

So if anyone in SD has a bike they can loan me for a couple of weeks when 
I'm out there, mostly for evening excursions and longer weekend rides, I'd 
be most appreciative!  And of course, I'm up for any rides as long as my 
schedule will afford.

I ride road bikes sized 60-62 ctc seat tube and 67-69 cm ctc (top tube + 
stem length combined).

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[RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Liesl

Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the custom 
frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
Phil Rivvy in back
Big Bens
Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
Phil bottom bracket
Paul Touring Canti's
Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
Brooks Champion Flyer Select
Bullmoose Boscos
Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
Paul Thumbies
Miesha Grips
Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
Claris Front Derailer
Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

2014-02-27 Thread James Warren


Probably 10 years old actually. Those came out in 2003. How do I know that? 
That's the year I bought my Ram frame and the big internal debate was Ram frame 
or Redwood complete. Both were ready to ship in April of '03.

I think new Redwoods were offered by Riv for 2 only years or less.



On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 .and it sold for just under $1000.  That's pretty fair for both the buyer 
 and the seller, I'd think.  Buyer gets a whole bike for something like $1500 
 new, rides it for several years and gets more than half his money back.  Good 
 deal for him.  Meanwhile, a modestly equipped Rivendell road bike climbed to 
 ~$2200 in price so the buyer got a decent deal as well.  
 
 On Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:00:41 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
 Not mine, but it's in Connecticut, so we have lots of listers who could scope 
 it out for you:
 
 ebay Redwood in GREEN
 
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[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread RJM

I like it. Bosco bullmoose will look awesome on that frame. 
 
You indicated a Phil Rivy hub in back. I think those are freewheel hubs so 
it won't work with your 9 speed cassette. 
 
I favor the Deore RD over the XT. A classy, working bike derailer that 
functions great. 
 
 

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:28:59 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the 
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!



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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-02-27 Thread hsmitham

Tom,

I wish now my medicine hadn't worked on this particular weekend, but it's
an inexact science ;-\

~Hugh

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:34:44 AM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:

Hugh,

Medicine dance is working.

Awesome job.

Tom

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:13:28 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

Tony,

I'm about to do a medicine dance to summon the rain Gods.

So bundle up and take a short ride in that blustery weather my friend.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hugh,

I'm with you, I haven't ridden that much since the new tires are on but
I love the look of the bike... rough and ready... I did take it out in the
snow tonight for my shift at the bike co-op. Really short ride but on my
way home I strayed into a small park with plenty of snow on grass with tree
roots. I felt like a little kid, lots of fun! Not going anywhere, not
logging miles, only spending about 10 min really...

The DIY studs are intriguing! Might be a fun project though I'm not sure
these tires are a good candidate. I'm definitely jealous of your
snow-less, moderate to amazing constant weather patterns!

Tony

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:03 AM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote:

Tony,

Don't know why but I think fat tires on an Atlantis just looks right.
And those Kenda's look great. Here's a
DIYhttp://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/studded-nate-grip-studs/for
studded tires...since it doesn't snow in LA really no reason for
studs...on the matter of snow and fenders I've seen never experienced the
jam up and it seems like not running with them in snow sort of makes
sense,
and what Steve P. said about the flat fender I believe is correct perhaps
wear something to protect against the wet strip up the back.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in
session till July 4th at this rate! Supposedly we're in for our biggest
snowfall since 2011 but I'll believe it when I see it. I don't have true
snow tires, but I did pick up some sweet used 29x2.1 Kenda Small Block
Eight tires at the co-op recently and had been hoping to try them out on
my
Atlantis. 700Cx54mm tires! I need to measure the actuals on my 23mm
Dyad
rims but they fit just fine once the fenders came off. I also finally
got
around to moutning my front Nitto rack/basket/light setup. Peter White
can
rest assured that I've maintained the centerline, above tire location of
the light but he'll be upset that I don't have fender coverage for the
beastie... I'll keep an eye on it and possibly add some kind of splash
protection. It's a sweet light, and I can see based on the light pattern
why keeping it center and over tire is desireable. Stand over w/ the
monster tires is not improved for me... predictably, but it is fun. I'm
going to take it for a spin this morning before the snow comes in then
we'll see about later! More pix on the blog -
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/monster-snow-cross-atlantis.html

Tony

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7RiNKo6Y7qQ/Ut5sIUqO9SI/DGQ/RuEQK8JVgD8/s1600/RAD_1040.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G_p7K346CpU/Ut5sIcpa1PI/DGk/7zjswNk1ajo/s1600/RAD_1042.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Exciting!

Do you mean 26 Aeroheat rims? I think Aeroheat is Velocity's touring-type 
rim.
Are you getting the Phil Cassette hub (per your SRAM 9-sp cassette)? or the 
Phil Rivvy 7-sp freewheel style?

Big Bens-- I really enjoy them on my Hunqapillar. They roll really nicely.

Did you consider the new Riv-exclusive Tektro brake levers? The Shimano's 
work great, though. 

Can't wait to see how it comes together.

--shoji


On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:28:59 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the 
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!



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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Tim Gavin

Yes, RJM is correct: the Phil Rivy hub is freewheel.  You'd be limited to a
7-speed freewheel on the Phil.

If you want to run 9 speeds on the rear, you need a cassette hub.  The Phil
cassette hub is almost $500, and is gorgeous.  The mid-level Shimano hubs
are ~$50-75, and perfectly ok.

Nothing wrong with freewheels and freewheel hubs, however, and Phil FW hubs
are about the best.  Freewheels put the pawls in the cheap, easily
replaceable part instead of inside the hub.  I just rebuilt my ~20 yr old
Phil hubs with new sealed bearings (total cost ~$25), so they should be
good for another 20 years at least!  And perfectly ok Shimano freewheels
are $15 each.

As for rear derailer, I've had good luck with last-generation MTB derailers
(9-speed MTB).  XT would be great, Deore/LX is probably just about as good.
 If you're going with 7-speed freewheel, you could use any MTB rear
derailer made in the last 25 years.

Tim


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:37 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like it. Bosco bullmoose will look awesome on that frame.

 You indicated a Phil Rivy hub in back. I think those are freewheel hubs so
 it won't work with your 9 speed cassette.

 I favor the Deore RD over the XT. A classy, working bike derailer that
 functions great.



 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:28:59 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

Doug,

What about the 700c wheel efficiency Vs. the 26wheel once they're rolling?
It's been my understanding one of the reasons many tour bikes are using 26
size wheels is they are easier to get a heavy mass rolling? Seems like that
would be true. So as I see it there's always a compromise in choosing a
wheel size. The 26 for carrying a load and it's maneuverability off road
are positive attributes and since your hauling stuff one would inherently
understand you won't be as quick as a race bike. Yet another reason folks
are always favoring multiple steeds and the N+1 factor as well.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:36 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover things
 better than 26 wheels...

 True but in reality not a huge difference.  A BQ article on tires
 contained a graphic comparing the angle of a 700 wheel vs a 26 against a
 block maybe 4 tall (?).  The difference in the angle was surprisingly
 small  personally I doubt I'd notice the difference.

 Hugh, I look forward to comparing my 700 wheeled Atlantis to your 26.

 dougP


 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:11:09 PM UTC-8, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

 Keep in mind that I'm not a mountain biker and other than riding gravel
 roads way back when, all my riding is on pavement.

 I can't say how much is the fat tires themselves.  The difference between
 my 40mm and my 55mm tires is far larger than the numbers would suggest.  I
 think it's that old volume thingwith the 55mm tires having a lot more.
  The closest I've come to riding a 700c fatter tire was a short test ride
 on a Surly Karate Monkey and it lacked something that both my old 820 and
 the new Troll I test rode have.

 I tend to ride like a little kid, meaning I don't ride from point A to
 point B.  My favorite place to ride (when it's not packed with pedestrians)
 is the walking path in our subdivision.  This is a typical sidewalk on
 gently rolling terrain and I don't think there is a true straight stretch
 of sidewalk that is longer than a few yards.  Tons of curves with some
 twists and turns while speeding up and slowing down, according to the path.
  My experience is that the 26 wheels accelerate faster and are far more
 maneuverable than 700c wheels.  The entry I use to the walkway is a gutter
 that is at a 90 degree angle to the sidewalk with curb on either side so
 there is no room for error when making that turn.  It's a bit scary on 700c
 x 40mm tires but a breeze on 559 x 55mm tires.  I think it boils down to a
 ride that is very nimble and quick while still being very smooth and cushy.

 I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover things
 better than 26 wheels and that 700c wheels maintain their momentum better
 and the latter, at least, seems to be true in my experience (I never roll
 over things so no experience with the first).   Riding my 700c bike is fun
 but almost bordering on boring.  Riding a 26 bike is both exhilarating and
 it literally makes me feel like a little kid again.  For me, a long ride is
 10 miles so the 26 wheels are a no-brainer.  If I was more into traveling
 and riding longer distances, I'd have to do some soul-searching before
 making a firm commitment to one or the other.



 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:34:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Chris,

 I too have been lusting after fat tire Atlantis...I don't see that many.
 Here's one I like a lot.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815790104/in/
 pool-rivendellatlantis/

 and another

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8541167230/in/pool-
 rivendellatlantis

 But I am curious Chris what is it about the 26 wheel size that has you
 so smitten. It's especially interesting when there is so much talk of 29ers
 and 650b tires. Please elucidate.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Chris Lampe 2 clamp...@yahoo.comwrote:

 For the longest time, a photo of an Atlantis on Peter White's website
 that is described as being outfitted with his best parts was my favorite
 Atlantis photo.  Now it's this one.  I've become hooked on the 26
 wheel/fat-tire combo.  Nothing else looks or feels as good to me now and
 the Atlantis, with it's traditional diamond frame, just looks TOUGH with
 fat knobbies.  I haven't had the pleasure of riding one yet.



 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:11:56 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in
 session till July 4th at this rate!  Supposedly we're in for our biggest
 snowfall since 2011 but I'll believe it when I see it.  I don't have true
 snow tires, but I did pick up some sweet used 29x2.1 Kenda Small Block
 Eight tires at the co-op recently and had

[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

Consider running Grip Rings instead.  I like the free expression of 
colorways for free spirits like you, Liesl.  Plus the rubbery cushy part, 
too.  

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:28:59 PM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the 
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!



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Re: [RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Anne Paulson

Is this bike only for off-road? Supposedly the Supernovas, or at least
some models of Supernova, are unsuitable for road use. Shining a
bright light into the eyes of oncoming traffic is not what you want to
do.

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the custom
 frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!

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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?



 iamkeith,


They sent me a 'stache with a collar that said 25.4 stamped on it. I 
measured the clamp area, and found it to be smaller than the 26.0 stamped 
stache I already had at home.

Maybe NITTO made a 25.4  and sent RBW one by accident in their regular 26.0 
shipment.

I would never alter any handlebar. I am not saying look for a collar to 
swap. I don't even think that would work or could be done anyway.
That would be altering the bar. Just see if NITTO made a 25.4 and sent it 
to RBW by accident in their regular shipments of 26.0 bars. 

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Re: [RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Liesl

Thanks all for catching the cassette/rear hub conundrum.  More on that 
later.

Anne, I already have the Supernova and have been using it for commuting for 
maybe two years.  I know you've been exploring this in your thread.  I like 
the light and especially like the rubber gasketted handlebar mount; it 
moves so easily from bike to bike and fits in a pocket.  Erin has one too.  
We don't do off-road stuff generally but do ride snow after dark.  It's 
been a fine light for our purposes.

(Bill, the cowboy shirt arrived.  C'est Magnifique!)

The custom is hopefully a go most anywhere/do most anything/have most fun 
doing it kind of bike.

On the small decisions:  that's why I'm gonna make the pilgrimage to Riv 
for the build.
On the big decisions:  working on 'em!

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Technomic 26.0, 130 mm

2014-02-27 Thread eflayer

This was part of the Alba/mt bike fit experiment. It is used, has a number 
of not deep surface blems, but pretty decent above the min line. Not for 
your show bike, but good for your commuter or for your own fitting 
experiment.
 
130 mm is pretty few and far between.
 
$30 shipped.

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Re: [RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Anne Paulson

Which version of the Supernova do you have?

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 Thanks all for catching the cassette/rear hub conundrum.  More on that
 later.

 Anne, I already have the Supernova and have been using it for commuting for
 maybe two years.  I know you've been exploring this in your thread.  I like
 the light and especially like the rubber gasketted handlebar mount; it moves
 so easily from bike to bike and fits in a pocket.  Erin has one too.  We
 don't do off-road stuff generally but do ride snow after dark.  It's been a
 fine light for our purposes.

 (Bill, the cowboy shirt arrived.  C'est Magnifique!)

 The custom is hopefully a go most anywhere/do most anything/have most fun
 doing it kind of bike.

 On the small decisions:  that's why I'm gonna make the pilgrimage to Riv for
 the build.
 On the big decisions:  working on 'em!

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Re: [RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Hi Anne,
I have the Supernova Airstream, which is a battery version headlight. It 
has the Terraflux lens, which is asymmetric (not illuminating drivers 
eyes). I think the dynamo version is the E3 Pro Terraflux (now E3 Pro 2). 
The off-road dynamo version is the E3 Triple.

(I may have messed up the names...)

--shoji

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:27:01 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Which version of the Supernova do you have? 

 On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Thanks all for catching the cassette/rear hub conundrum.  More on that 
  later. 
  
  Anne, I already have the Supernova and have been using it for commuting 
 for 
  maybe two years.  I know you've been exploring this in your thread.  I 
 like 
  the light and especially like the rubber gasketted handlebar mount; it 
 moves 
  so easily from bike to bike and fits in a pocket.  Erin has one too.  We 
  don't do off-road stuff generally but do ride snow after dark.  It's 
 been a 
  fine light for our purposes. 
  
  (Bill, the cowboy shirt arrived.  C'est Magnifique!) 
  
  The custom is hopefully a go most anywhere/do most anything/have most 
 fun 
  doing it kind of bike. 
  
  On the small decisions:  that's why I'm gonna make the pilgrimage to Riv 
 for 
  the build. 
  On the big decisions:  working on 'em! 
  
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[RBW] Can't wait for the temps to change..

2014-02-27 Thread Rusty Click

I've officially given up wishing for warmer weather to arrive.  It has been 
decided, here and now, that I am loading the Hillborne into the car, and 
heading to Florida.  I plan on arriving in the Jupiter/West Palm area on 
about the 14th.  I am hoping to ride a multi day north on the A1A, and a 
few S24O's, while basing out of a very good friends house in the area.
If any group members are in the area, let's meet and ride a bit.  Beaches, 
coffee shop, sunshine!  WooHoo!   Oh, and by the way, I'm staying on Jekyll 
Island 10th through 12th, if anyone is riding that area.

Rusty
tired of the cold in Pittsburgh, PA

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[RBW] FS 2011 60cm Double TT Sam Hillborne 2.0

2014-02-27 Thread Steven Silbert

Here is an updated version of my previous post. Please email with any
questions!

I'm selling my 2011 60cm Double TT Sam Hillborne by Rivendell Bicycle
Works. I am the original owner and have rode the bicycle regularly for 2
years(I studied abroad for 1 year during which it was stored indoors). I
would like to sell the bike complete for $1000 excluding shipping, but if
someone would like to make an offer for frame and some combination of parts
thereof, I will definitely take that into consideration. And of course if
there is anyone within driving distance of Monterey Bay CA that would be
wonderful. Here is the link to the photos:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/118442524@N04/

I tried to include some of the beausage/scratches on the front of the
frame that has occurred from frequent locking and unlocking. The bike is in
otherwise great condition and rides as expected of a Rivendell!
The front rack, basket, bag and rear rack are not included in the purchase.
Here is a list of the parts.

Wheels: Mavic 32 hole open sport rims, front deore hub, rear deore lx hub,
shimano xtr 9spd 11-34 cassette.
Tires: Continental Contact
Nitto Noodle Handlebars 46cm
Tekro long-reach Brakes and Levers
Cloth tape
Shimano bar-end shifters
Crane bell
Stem: Nitto 60mm technomic
Crankset: Sugino double 34/44(I replaced the 48 ring with a 44 because
there isn't much flat terrain where I live)
Pedals: MKS Touring
Derailleurs: Front Campy, Rear Shimano XT 9 spd
The Seat post and Headset were the ones that came with the Sam from
Rivendell.
Brooks B-17 Saddle(broken in!)
SRAM chain

I'm also selling the rear rack which is a Velo Orange Campeur rear rack as
shown here:

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/campeur-rear-rack-1263.html

This is being sold separately for $100 excluding shipping. Pay pal is best
and easiest for me and again if you have any questions/offers please feel
free to ask. Hopefully when I'm making big $ in the future, Ill be in here
looking for a Hunqapillar!

Steven

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Michael Hechmer

The White Hub is $100 less than the PW and will give you very smooth and 
durable performance.

Michael

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:28:59 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the 
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!



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Re: [RBW] Can't wait for the temps to change..

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Morgano

Take me with you! Another snow storm coming on Monday here in NY. Poor
bombadil is getting lonely.
On Feb 27, 2014 4:44 PM, Rusty Click click...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've officially given up wishing for warmer weather to arrive.  It has
 been decided, here and now, that I am loading the Hillborne into the car,
 and heading to Florida.  I plan on arriving in the Jupiter/West Palm area
 on about the 14th.  I am hoping to ride a multi day north on the A1A, and a
 few S24O's, while basing out of a very good friends house in the area.
 If any group members are in the area, let's meet and ride a bit.  Beaches,
 coffee shop, sunshine!  WooHoo!   Oh, and by the way, I'm staying on Jekyll
 Island 10th through 12th, if anyone is riding that area.

 Rusty
 tired of the cold in Pittsburgh, PA

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[RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

2014-02-27 Thread hsmitham

Deacon,

The burdens in my life compel me to attempt a bike overnight a month. 

I would characterize myself like those mustangs penned up rather than 
running free in the open country...I have purposely submitted to our 
societies convention of working and care taking a home (rather than the 
absurd notion of home ownership as everything is transitory and we don't 
own anything in this moment) for some modicum of financial imperative.

If the process of attempting to do an overnight a month adds to my stress 
level then I wouldn't hesitate ending the endeavor immediately. At my core 
I am a nomad and these foray's are my tether to who I am. Don't mistake me 
I enjoy the comforts of modern living but there is a physical  physic 
cost. I choose to offset those costs within my domain. Freedom is what I'm 
after. Om Tat Sat Om...Yes that the real. Jai Devi.

~Hugh

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:15:57 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hughes almost two month journey in this endeavor and the challenge he’s 
 having fitting in February’s S24O got me thinking on a number of fronts, 
 and I’d love to hear other’s thoughts:

 — The intriguing thing to me about going at least once a month is the 
 creativity and wonder and joy of experiencing beauty in all types of 
 weather. Well, for me personally, I get that range already, so I don’t need 
 the imposition of whether I go by bike, ski pulk, or for more than one 
 night. If I accidentally accomplish it, then cool. Grin.

 — I have enough challenges that for me the idea of an imposed schedule 
 would be a burden rather than a freedom, though I can easily see how the 
 structure could lead to freedom for others.

 That’s as far as I’ve gotten and I’d love to hear your experience and 
 thoughts.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Winter Bikepacking tips?

Update (limey the last):

Here are photos of the likely last trip with the ski pulk (it is now warm 
enough that there will be dirt sections on the lower parts of trails, and I 
can't carry the pulk with my 
vertigo. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157641608866413/

The huge blessing in all this is the fortified Hobbit Hole I have now is so 
far holding out the construction noise (with me wearing my noise canceling 
headphones). Allelulia for triple pained glass, sound rock, volunteers, and 
generosity of others! Amazing all around.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

Beautiful responses, Hugh and all! Enjoy whatever you do with wild abandon!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Liesl

Micheal, no need to sell me on White hubs; I have a set and love them!  The 
plan is to work with Rich Lesnick and get it sorted out!  Rich is the 
Wheelman; Mark's the Buildman  -Liesl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

Deacon,

That's me wild abandon! Peace Brother.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

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 Beautiful responses, Hugh and all! Enjoy whatever you do with wild abandon!

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread Garth


You could certainly use a 1-1/8 with a shim.  I wouldn't worry about a new 
stem being strong enough , or using a shim on the steering tube. I know it 
goes being attached to certain ideas and all lol... but this is not 
really a big deal , once you decide what you want the most. I was all set 
against anything threadless , let alone threadless quill adapters .  Then I 
said ... that's just stupid ... and now I use them . Angst over nothing. 

I would leave the current stem alone. Leave the bars alone. Don't force 
anything, don't modify anything. The parts you need to fit together exist, 
and they will come to you and all this will seem like dream. Done Already 
:) 




On Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:55:52 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:

 Stem is a traditional one-bolt.   If this wasn't a mountain bike, I'd 
 probably at least *try* to stuff the bar in.  I think this stem might 
 actually be better than a modern, forged, removable face-plate design, 
 because it could conform to the stem kind of like a band-clamp  - as long 
 as the bolt aligned.  But I'm not willing to try, in this case.  If I feel 
 limited with a flat bar, I'll probably just end up using a newer stem, even 
 if it's not quite right.  

 Thanks for all the thoughts...  AND concerns!

 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:42:12 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:

 Is the Nitto stem an open face, 2 or 4 bolt design ?   If so, you could 
 likely use the Alba's without a problem. 

 If it's not open, surely you can find another stem that can offer the 
 same bike position.  



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[RBW] Aeropress review, ride report, and cycling legends.

2014-02-27 Thread jinxed

All rides are good rides...some rides are outstanding.

I had an unexpectedly outstanding one today.

Our temps and weather have been wavering the super cold / super nice line 
seemingly every other day so when it's nice, I try to take advantage. Even 
if it's just for a short jaunt. Well the forecast looked good for this 
morning so I planned to run my errands on the bike today. GOOD call that.

First off, I headed down to my local cafe to answer the call of the 
Aeropress. I had seen them in the shop a while ago and the owner and I have 
discussed them several times. For whatever reason I never took the plunge. 
(see what I did there?) Recent events have my wife drinking decaf, so 
lately I have been brewing solo cups, or firing up the espresso machine. 
This paired with the recent talk of the famous coffee syringe pushed me 
over the edge. I hit the shop, purchased my wares, drank a cuppa, and 
headed out to the next stop.

After 2 quick stops picking up shipping boxes and supplies for the ACW 
mugs, I started for home. On a whim, I decided to take a small detour to 
check out one of the dirt trails to see if it was close to dry from the 
recent snowfall we've had. First off I discovered a cool spillway I had 
ridden past a couple dozen times and never noticed. Then, as it turned out, 
the trail was totally dry and rideable...and I was already there...and it 
seemed a shame not to partakeso I took off!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/12822717885/in/photostream/lightbox/

A few miles in, the dirt canal trail has a few single tracks that shoot off 
into some denser wooded areas that I usually romp around on. Where the main 
trail gets steady traffic, I'm lucky to see one or two people on the 
singletrack. Today, I was rolling along through the twists and turns when I 
decided to stop for a photo where the trees opened up. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/12824281034/

As I was getting back on the bike, a gentleman walking his dog approached 
me. He said hello with an accent, and asked how I liked the VP-001 pedals 
on my Rambler. He said he had the same ones on his bike. Well as you can 
imagine we started geeking out on cycling for a solid 40 minutes. Pedals, 
gearing, climbing, steel frames, racing, cyclocross, Dutch Womens Field 
Hockey. You know...the usual. During the conversation I learn the 
following: his name is Fons, he is from the Netherlands, he lives a couple 
streets away from me, and he enjoyed watching cyclocross racing in 
europeand he mentioned his brother was a pretty good cyclist. As I 
left, I asked his brothers name so I could look him up. Peter Post he 
says...you'll see I look just like him! And he does...but he failed to 
mention his brother was “De Keizer van de Zesdaagse” The name rung a 
bell, but I couldn't place it till I got home.

HERE'S a link about Peter http://www.flandriabikes.com/heroes/peter-post

I know this isn't the most race-centric crowd, but I very much enjoy the 
old tales of the spring classics.

As I was near home on my bike, he drove by with his dog and tooted his horn 
waving out the window. I made a new friend in my hood! I'll hope to toast 
over a pint some day and weave verbal tapestries of cycling stories!

So once home and settled down from the excitement, I decided to fire up the 
Aeropress and see what the fuss is about. There are plenty 
more in-depth reviews than I'll give here, but I will say the thing is 
impressive.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/12823290384/in/photostream/lightbox/
 
The things that stood out: 

   - I never realized it was made by the Aerobie people! I LOVE their 
   flying rings and have been playing with them for well over ten years! Glad 
   to continue support of the company. 
   - I assumed, but was happy to confirm it's a USA made product.
   - I also did not know it came with a bag, scoop, funnel, and holder for 
   the filters. Very nice kit indeed.
   - They say it's simple...but holy cow...it's REALLY simple!

I don't know if I got lucky with my grinder setting, or the thing is just 
forgiving, but following the directions my plunge took right at 20 seconds 
with what seemed like appropriate pressure. I was VERY pleased with the cup 
it made. To clarify I was using the same beans I drip or pour over brew 
with and this method sure brewed a smoother, sweeter and very enjoyable 
coffee. It's also comically easy to clean up which is bonus for on the bike 
brewing.

When you leave the house on a bike things have a way of becoming magical. I 
like that.

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[RBW] Re: 25.4 Albastache?

2014-02-27 Thread Christopher Murray

Nitto 100% definitely without-a-question made the original moustache bars in 
25.4. I owned a pair and sold them to a fellow member of this group. They are 
out there. Would not be suprised if the made the albastache in 25.4- at least a 
few and maybe just prototypes- but just speculating. 

Cheers!
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Re: [RBW] Aeropress review, ride report, and cycling legends.

2014-02-27 Thread Mike Williams

Great story/ write up Mr. Jinxed,  highly enjoyable and entertaining in a real 
world, real people way!   -Mike

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:06 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 All rides are good rides...some rides are outstanding.
 
 I had an unexpectedly outstanding one today.
 
 Our temps and weather have been wavering the super cold / super nice line 
 seemingly every other day so when it's nice, I try to take advantage. Even if 
 it's just for a short jaunt. Well the forecast looked good for this morning 
 so I planned to run my errands on the bike today. GOOD call that.
 
 First off, I headed down to my local cafe to answer the call of the 
 Aeropress. I had seen them in the shop a while ago and the owner and I have 
 discussed them several times. For whatever reason I never took the plunge. 
 (see what I did there?) Recent events have my wife drinking decaf, so lately 
 I have been brewing solo cups, or firing up the espresso machine. This paired 
 with the recent talk of the famous coffee syringe pushed me over the edge. I 
 hit the shop, purchased my wares, drank a cuppa, and headed out to the next 
 stop.
 
 After 2 quick stops picking up shipping boxes and supplies for the ACW mugs, 
 I started for home. On a whim, I decided to take a small detour to check out 
 one of the dirt trails to see if it was close to dry from the recent snowfall 
 we've had. First off I discovered a cool spillway I had ridden past a couple 
 dozen times and never noticed. Then, as it turned out, the trail was totally 
 dry and rideable...and I was already there...and it seemed a shame not to 
 partakeso I took off!
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/12822717885/in/photostream/lightbox/
 
 A few miles in, the dirt canal trail has a few single tracks that shoot off 
 into some denser wooded areas that I usually romp around on. Where the main 
 trail gets steady traffic, I'm lucky to see one or two people on the 
 singletrack. Today, I was rolling along through the twists and turns when I 
 decided to stop for a photo where the trees opened up. 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/12824281034/
 
 As I was getting back on the bike, a gentleman walking his dog approached me. 
 He said hello with an accent, and asked how I liked the VP-001 pedals on my 
 Rambler. He said he had the same ones on his bike. Well as you can imagine we 
 started geeking out on cycling for a solid 40 minutes. Pedals, gearing, 
 climbing, steel frames, racing, cyclocross, Dutch Womens Field Hockey. You 
 know...the usual. During the conversation I learn the following: his name is 
 Fons, he is from the Netherlands, he lives a couple streets away from me, and 
 he enjoyed watching cyclocross racing in europeand he mentioned his 
 brother was a pretty good cyclist. As I left, I asked his brothers name so 
 I could look him up. Peter Post he says...you'll see I look just like 
 him! And he does...but he failed to mention his brother was “De Keizer van 
 de Zesdaagse” The name rung a bell, but I couldn't place it till I got 
 home.
 
 HERE'S a link about Peter
 
 I know this isn't the most race-centric crowd, but I very much enjoy the old 
 tales of the spring classics.
 
 As I was near home on my bike, he drove by with his dog and tooted his horn 
 waving out the window. I made a new friend in my hood! I'll hope to toast 
 over a pint some day and weave verbal tapestries of cycling stories!
 
 So once home and settled down from the excitement, I decided to fire up the 
 Aeropress and see what the fuss is about. There are plenty more in-depth 
 reviews than I'll give here, but I will say the thing is impressive.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/12823290384/in/photostream/lightbox/
  
 The things that stood out: 
 I never realized it was made by the Aerobie people! I LOVE their flying rings 
 and have been playing with them for well over ten years! Glad to continue 
 support of the company. 
 I assumed, but was happy to confirm it's a USA made product.
 I also did not know it came with a bag, scoop, funnel, and holder for the 
 filters. Very nice kit indeed.
 They say it's simple...but holy cow...it's REALLY simple!
 I don't know if I got lucky with my grinder setting, or the thing is just 
 forgiving, but following the directions my plunge took right at 20 seconds 
 with what seemed like appropriate pressure. I was VERY pleased with the cup 
 it made. To clarify I was using the same beans I drip or pour over brew with 
 and this method sure brewed a smoother, sweeter and very enjoyable coffee. 
 It's also comically easy to clean up which is bonus for on the bike brewing.
 
 When you leave the house on a bike things have a way of becoming magical. I 
 like that.
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Re: [RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Patrick Moore

It sounds very nice.

Kickstand: I assume it has a plate? Then for sure a 2-leg stand; there is
one that is advertised to be more stable than the Pletscher, which I found
rather useless with loaded panniers, but I forget who makes it -- it has a
much wider stance.

Phil bb. Amen.

Seatpost: if you are going to spend $100, why not the Nitto S83? It is
Rivendellian, after all. A very charitable donor practically gave one to me
for my Ram build. Best I've used (and I'm comparing it to the older, silver
aluminum Dura Aces on my other Rivs).

SON 28: If you are going SON, why not get the small, light, jewel-like one?
Or perhaps a very svelte, light, and almost jewel-like SP for less than
half the price of a SON?

What is a Claris headset? FWIW, my Tange roller ball has 12K miles the
several generations old Ultegra has 9 k miles, and both feel as new.

Water bottle cages: you can buy much more expensive and somewhat prettier
ones, but the King Iris is the no b-s top of the line, and pretty, too. (I
switched to Irises after breaking a couple of the the jewel-like but
delicate Nitto butterfly cages.)

Lights: I have no experience with the Supernova, but the old model Edeluxe
is wonderful, and the new model is said to be brighter and wider. Me, with
my bad night vision, I find the old one fine.

Please post photos as and when ...




On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-02-27 Thread Dave Johnston

Anne,

You asked how big  a tire the 26 Atlantis takes. My early model Atlantis 
has 70mm of clearance at the narrowest spot (the chainstays). I would think 
that would mean you could run 60mm tires or about 2.25. However note that 
many tires are quite a bit smaller than they advertise, for instance the 
tires I run on the Atlantis are Schwalbe Kojak 26x2 (559-50) and actually 
measures 44mm on Maverick rims. Knobbies on the other hand can stick out 
past the casing width, so sometimes it's trial and error.

-Dave J


On Thursday, February 27, 2014 1:34:49 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I've asked this before, but how wide tires does a 26 Atlantis take? I'm 
 skeptical mine would take anything wider than 2.1. 

 People do the Divide on touring bikes. It works. But if you read the 
 journals of people on touring bikes, you see them taking paved detours a 
 lot.


 On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Hugh Smitham 
 hughs...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

  
 The ride the divide is awesome. I think the Atlantis could be used for 
 that ride running 2.1 or larger tires. But I'd do it on a more leisurely 
 pace not to compete.

  

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[RBW] Re: Aeropress review, ride report, and cycling legends.

2014-02-27 Thread jinxed

OH!!! I almost forgot! For the primal eaters among us who like to indulge 
in the dark chocolate. I found this bar from Vosges that I really like. The 
coconut ash  banana intrigued me. As the name suggests, it does in fact 
contain coconut charcoal. The crazy thing is, it smells like a campfire! 
Not sure if that's a good or pad thing, but I find it enjoyable. It's has a 
grittier texture akin to an Oaxacan chocolate which I also like. Nice dark 
flavor and subtle sweetness. One square is a perfect side mated to an 
Aeropress coffee.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/12823315823/lightbox/

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[RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread bo richardson

you might do different, but 
i dont think you could do much better

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

2014-02-27 Thread David Banzer

In addition to the max tire size of 38mm, the flyer states that it'll fit a 
35mm with fenders. Anyone able to do this in practice?

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:35:09 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/index.html

 The Rambouillet fits up to 700x38mm tires, according to the flyer.  The 
 Redwood flyer also claims 700x38 clearance:

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/redflyer/index.html


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[RBW] Re: FS: Bicycle Quarterly Back Issues

2014-02-27 Thread John Kim

Update

Volumes 3 to 9 have been sold.  I still have available volume 10 and 11 (8 
issues total).  Asking $40 shipped for all.
That's $5 per issue.


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Re: [RBW] FS 2011 60cm Double TT Sam Hillborne 2.0

Yowzer that's a good deal! One of you tall-folks needs to jump on this!

And if someone has a 56cm FF w/ cantis (single TT preferred), feel free to
let me know, I'd be interested!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Steven Silbert skakid8...@gmail.comwrote:

Here is an updated version of my previous post. Please email with any
questions!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/118442524@N04/

I'm also selling the rear rack which is a Velo Orange Campeur rear rack
as shown here:

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/campeur-rear-rack-1263.html

Steven

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[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-27 Thread Jeff Ong

I have a slightly ridiculous number of mountain bikes, although only a few 
of them regularly get taken off-road. I've got a long travel Santa Cruz 
Huckler and a modern (2005-ish) Klein Attitude hardtail. Having at least 
front suspension really does make a huge difference for modern, very 
aggressive trails, I've reluctantly decided. Also, I discovered that as a 
guy in my 40's, I recover a lot quicker if I ride suspended.

That said, I've also got a MB-Zip which is ridiculously light and fun to 
ride, a very early fillet-brazed Mt. Goat, a nice mid-80's fillet brazed 
Ritchey, and an early 90's Alpinestars elevated chainstay bike that I 
converted to a ridiculous fixed gear after the derailleur hanger bent 
irreparably. Oh, and my daily rider (apart from my Rambouillet) is a mid 
90's Voodoo Bizango converted to drop bars, with fender/rack mounts I 
brazed on myself. That one still sees quite a bit of dirt, too.

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[RBW] Bleriot Frames FS

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Pesce

Not mine;
Peter White peterjwh...@gmail.com Feb 27 11:22AM -0800  

Just remembered we have a couple of new Bleriot frames. 1 is a 53cm, the 
other is 61cm. $600.00 frame and fork. Plus, I'll mill the head tube and 
fork crown with the Campagnolo cutters so a headset won't wear out in a few 
months. 


Pete in CT

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[RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

2014-02-27 Thread David Banzer

Unfortunately it didn't go to me. I happened to be in a meeting, and was 
outbid and forgot to raise my max bid. Oh well. Since I did justify money 
for a new bike, I guess I'm on the hunt now.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB

Nice build choices. +1 on the Phil 7-spd (or any freewheel 
hub)...especially if you prefer friction shifting.. I think 7 speeds is 
ideal; I've never been very adept at nailing my friction shifts with a 
9-spd cassette, but maybe that's just me.

Above all... choose what YOU want !!  

Peace,
BB

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:28:59 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the 
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!



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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

Just posted another build up here.

http://newalbioncycles.blogspot.com/2014/02/privateer-build-for-gravelbikecom.html?m=1

In all honesty, the Privateer is identical to the Pake C'mute, with a few 
little tweaks that make it more versatile, lighter giving. I actually owe a 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ultra-cheap 65cm Redwood on the 'bay

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Morgano

The hunt continues... Gotta get auction sniper for those must have items.
Good luck!
On Feb 27, 2014 8:31 PM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately it didn't go to me. I happened to be in a meeting, and was
 outbid and forgot to raise my max bid. Oh well. Since I did justify money
 for a new bike, I guess I'm on the hunt now.
 David
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[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB

I don't always ride suspension, but when I do, I still prefer steel... Stay
rigid, my friends...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lYDcXZg6T78/Uw_spEwhBII/EhI/CKWVNujoEn0/s1600/wpid-dos-equis-man.png

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:59:06 PM UTC-5, Jeff Ong wrote:

I have a slightly ridiculous number of mountain bikes, although only a few
of them regularly get taken off-road. I've got a long travel Santa Cruz
Huckler and a modern (2005-ish) Klein Attitude hardtail. Having at least
front suspension really does make a huge difference for modern, very
aggressive trails, I've reluctantly decided. Also, I discovered that as a
guy in my 40's, I recover a lot quicker if I ride suspended.

That said, I've also got a MB-Zip which is ridiculously light and fun to
ride, a very early fillet-brazed Mt. Goat, a nice mid-80's fillet brazed
Ritchey, and an early 90's Alpinestars elevated chainstay bike that I
converted to a ridiculous fixed gear after the derailleur hanger bent
irreparably. Oh, and my daily rider (apart from my Rambouillet) is a mid
90's Voodoo Bizango converted to drop bars, with fender/rack mounts I
brazed on myself. That one still sees quite a bit of dirt, too.

Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

Just posted another build up here.
http://newalbioncycles.blogspot.com/2014/02/privateer-build-for-gravelbikecom.html?m=1

In all honesty, the Privateer is identical to the Pake C'mute, with a few 
little tweaks that make it more versatile, and lighter tubing. I actually owen 
a C'mute, and its a fine bike, but I think most would agree these look nicer.

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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

Just posted another build up here.
http://newalbioncycles.blogspot.com/2014/02/privateer-build-for-gravelbikecom.html?m=1

In all honesty, the Privateer is identical to the Pake C'mute, with a few 
little tweaks that make it more versatile, and lighter tubing. I actually owen 
a C'mute, and its a fine bike, but I think most would agree these look nicer.

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Re: [RBW] New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

On a related note,Google groups is basically unusable without a mechanical 
keyboard.

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[RBW] Re: FS lots of bikes and frames

2014-02-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB

That's a DEAL for the Rohloff Trucker... a true world-traveler or just an 
ordinary, daily (UBER!) commuter... Thankfully not my size (whew), but for 
some lucky soul that's going to be a genuine score.


On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:57:06 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 One Riv and several Riv-ish to some degree. I posted this previously, but 
 have since updated:
 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/02/used-bikes-and-frames.htmlhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fhiawathacyclery.blogspot.com%2F2014%2F02%2Fused-bikes-and-frames.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHkNjQwuKIgp7r9KYXNF5jB9T4O3g

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[RBW] Aeropress review, ride report, and cycling legends.

2014-02-27 Thread Pondero

Your aeropress review matches my experience perfectly.  Can't wait for my ACW 
mug to arrive!

Chris
Sanger, TX

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[RBW] Re: Aeropress review, ride report, and cycling legends.

2014-02-27 Thread jinxed

Got the first batch of orders packed and ready for the post office 
tomorrow. Should see it soon!!

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:13:12 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:

 Your aeropress review matches my experience perfectly.  Can't wait for my 
 ACW mug to arrive!

 Chris
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Re: [RBW] FS 2011 60cm Double TT Sam Hillborne 2.0

2014-02-27 Thread Curtis McKenzie

Make it 68 cm and I am all over it.

On Thursday, February 27, 2014, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

Yowzer that's a good deal! One of you tall-folks needs to jump on this!

And if someone has a 56cm FF w/ cantis (single TT preferred), feel free
to let me know, I'd be interested!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Steven Silbert
skakid8...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skakid8...@gmail.com');
wrote:

Here is an updated version of my previous post. Please email with any
questions!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/118442524@N04/

Wheels: Mavic 32 hole open sport rims, front deore hub, rear deore lx
hub, shimano xtr 9spd 11-34 cassette.
Tires: Continental Contact
Nitto Noodle Handlebars 46cm
Tekro long-reach Brakes and Levers
Cloth tape
Shimano bar-end shifters
Crane bell
Stem: Nitto 60mm technomic
Crankset: Sugino double 34/44(I replaced the 48 ring with a 44 because
there isn't much flat terrain where I live)
Pedals: MKS Touring
Derailleurs: Front Campy, Rear Shimano XT 9 spd
The Seat post and Headset were the ones that came with the Sam from
Rivendell.
Brooks B-17 Saddle(broken in!)
SRAM chain

I'm also selling the rear rack which is a Velo Orange Campeur rear rack
as shown here:

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/campeur-rear-rack-1263.html

This is being sold separately for $100 excluding shipping. Pay pal is
best and easiest for me and again if you have any questions/offers please
feel free to ask. Hopefully when I'm making big $ in the future, Ill be in
here looking for a Hunqapillar!

Steven

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[RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

2014-02-27 Thread Mike Schiller

my opinion is that if you miss one month double up the next month.   Maybe 
even get ahead and do two months with two trips!

If my wife didn't mind I'd be out on the trails for a week per month.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:15:57 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hughes almost two month journey in this endeavor and the challenge he’s 
 having fitting in February’s S24O got me thinking on a number of fronts, 
 and I’d love to hear other’s thoughts:

 — The intriguing thing to me about going at least once a month is the 
 creativity and wonder and joy of experiencing beauty in all types of 
 weather. Well, for me personally, I get that range already, so I don’t need 
 the imposition of whether I go by bike, ski pulk, or for more than one 
 night. If I accidentally accomplish it, then cool. Grin.

 — I have enough challenges that for me the idea of an imposed schedule 
 would be a burden rather than a freedom, though I can easily see how the 
 structure could lead to freedom for others.

 That’s as far as I’ve gotten and I’d love to hear your experience and 
 thoughts.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Ron Mc

I want photos - I'm on the oogling committee.  

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:35:29 PM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Nice build choices. +1 on the Phil 7-spd (or any freewheel 
 hub)...especially if you prefer friction shifting.. I think 7 speeds is 
 ideal; I've never been very adept at nailing my friction shifts with a 
 9-spd cassette, but maybe that's just me.

 Above all... choose what YOU want !!  

 Peace,
 BB

 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:28:59 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the 
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!



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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Morgano

I love the tall and handsome post, the finish is amazing like all Paul
products.
On Feb 27, 2014 10:34 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 I want photos - I'm on the oogling committee.

 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:35:29 PM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Nice build choices. +1 on the Phil 7-spd (or any freewheel
 hub)...especially if you prefer friction shifting.. I think 7 speeds is
 ideal; I've never been very adept at nailing my friction shifts with a
 9-spd cassette, but maybe that's just me.

 Above all... choose what YOU want !!

 Peace,
 BB

 On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:28:59 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the
 custom frame to Riv around March 21.  Zownds!

 Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele:

 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims
 SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova)
 Phil Rivvy in back
 Big Bens
 Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset
 Phil bottom bracket
 Paul Touring Canti's
 Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post
 Brooks Champion Flyer Select
 Bullmoose Boscos
 Shimano MTP Silver brake levers
 Paul Thumbies
 Miesha Grips
 Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks
 SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth
 Claris Front Derailer
 Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?)
 a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps
 and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home!

 Now let the Committee Deliberations commence!

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[RBW] A lugged steel boomerang? My Hillborne is back!






In 2009 I became a Rivendell owner.  I bought a 56cm Samuel Hillborne and 
it kicked off my second-life in cycling.  The reason I got a flickr account 
was because of my Hillborne.  Here's the first flickr photo I ever uploaded:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2662/4201002059_fe813d0b60_z.jpg


I've done a lot of buying and selling of bikes.  My Hillborne got built up 
in a few different ways, in 2010 and 2011.  One of the coolest was this 
slick monstercross setup:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4095/5604248171_e9f4b2942c_z.jpg


Around that time (April 2011) we had scraped together every penny we had to 
move up to a larger house.  Amidst the scraping, I decided to sell the 
Hillborne, with the notion that when I could afford it I would buy a 58cm 
Atlantis to replace it.  I sold it to a nice friend of a friend.  I always 
missed it a little bit.  

Fast forward to 2013, I got the family to agree to send me to live-in 
framebuilding school in Arizona.  A two-week course building a lugged steel 
frameset.  As I thought about what I wanted and it was:  a 700c road bike, 
that'll take 38-40mm tires, cantilever brakes, 135mm rear end.  Where my 
Black Mountain is a great road bike for 28-32mm tires, I wanted a great 
road bike for 35-45mm tires.  I bought a set of 700x38 Soma C-Lines and 
started pulling the build kit together.  I had the full build kit done, 
when it turned out that the scheduling for the frame building class didn't 
work out, so we bagged that idea.  

A little while later a little bird told me that the fellow who had bought 
my Hillborne never got around to building it, so I reached out to him.  
Sure enough it was still hung up in his den, and lo and behold he was 
willing to sell it back to me for the same price I sold it to him for.  So, 
now I'm the re-owner of a lugged steel boomerang!  Throw it away and three 
years later it comes right back.  Stay tuned for the build!  

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2892/12827065683_922e9cf760_z.jpg


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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

IIRC, Bike Quarterly suggested that there is a sweet spot for wheel
diameter/circumference. Basically 622X28mm (686 diameter), 584X42mm (676
diameter), 559X55mm (677 diameter) all were pretty close to it. So the
fatter the tire, the smaller the wheel.

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

 Doug,

 What about the 700c wheel efficiency Vs. the 26wheel once they're
 rolling? It's been my understanding one of the reasons many tour bikes are
 using 26 size wheels is they are easier to get a heavy mass rolling? Seems
 like that would be true. So as I see it there's always a compromise in
 choosing a wheel size. The 26 for carrying a load and it's maneuverability
 off road are positive attributes and since your hauling stuff one would
 inherently understand you won't be as quick as a race bike. Yet another
 reason folks are always favoring multiple steeds and the N+1 factor as well.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:36 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover things
 better than 26 wheels...

 True but in reality not a huge difference.  A BQ article on tires
 contained a graphic comparing the angle of a 700 wheel vs a 26 against a
 block maybe 4 tall (?).  The difference in the angle was surprisingly
 small  personally I doubt I'd notice the difference.

 Hugh, I look forward to comparing my 700 wheeled Atlantis to your 26.

 dougP


 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:11:09 PM UTC-8, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

 Keep in mind that I'm not a mountain biker and other than riding gravel
 roads way back when, all my riding is on pavement.

 I can't say how much is the fat tires themselves.  The difference
 between my 40mm and my 55mm tires is far larger than the numbers would
 suggest.  I think it's that old volume thingwith the 55mm tires having
 a lot more.  The closest I've come to riding a 700c fatter tire was a short
 test ride on a Surly Karate Monkey and it lacked something that both my old
 820 and the new Troll I test rode have.

 I tend to ride like a little kid, meaning I don't ride from point A to
 point B.  My favorite place to ride (when it's not packed with pedestrians)
 is the walking path in our subdivision.  This is a typical sidewalk on
 gently rolling terrain and I don't think there is a true straight stretch
 of sidewalk that is longer than a few yards.  Tons of curves with some
 twists and turns while speeding up and slowing down, according to the path.
  My experience is that the 26 wheels accelerate faster and are far more
 maneuverable than 700c wheels.  The entry I use to the walkway is a gutter
 that is at a 90 degree angle to the sidewalk with curb on either side so
 there is no room for error when making that turn.  It's a bit scary on 700c
 x 40mm tires but a breeze on 559 x 55mm tires.  I think it boils down to a
 ride that is very nimble and quick while still being very smooth and cushy.

 I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover things
 better than 26 wheels and that 700c wheels maintain their momentum better
 and the latter, at least, seems to be true in my experience (I never roll
 over things so no experience with the first).   Riding my 700c bike is fun
 but almost bordering on boring.  Riding a 26 bike is both exhilarating and
 it literally makes me feel like a little kid again.  For me, a long ride is
 10 miles so the 26 wheels are a no-brainer.  If I was more into traveling
 and riding longer distances, I'd have to do some soul-searching before
 making a firm commitment to one or the other.



 On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:34:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Chris,

 I too have been lusting after fat tire Atlantis...I don't see that
 many. Here's one I like a lot.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815790104/in/
 pool-rivendellatlantis/

 and another

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8541167230/in/pool-
 rivendellatlantis

 But I am curious Chris what is it about the 26 wheel size that has you
 so smitten. It's especially interesting when there is so much talk of 29ers
 and 650b tires. Please elucidate.

 ~Hugh

 Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving. -- Albert Einstein

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 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Chris Lampe 2 clamp...@yahoo.comwrote:

 For the longest time, a photo of an Atlantis on Peter White's website
 that is described as being outfitted with his best parts was my favorite
 Atlantis photo.  Now it's this one.  I've become hooked on the 26
 wheel/fat-tire combo.  Nothing else looks or feels as good to me now and
 the Atlantis, with it's traditional diamond frame, just looks TOUGH with
 fat knobbies.  I haven't had the pleasure of riding

Re: [RBW] A lugged steel boomerang? My Hillborne is back!

An angel just got it's wings!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:




 In 2009 I became a Rivendell owner.  I bought a 56cm Samuel Hillborne and
 it kicked off my second-life in cycling.  The reason I got a flickr account
 was because of my Hillborne.  Here's the first flickr photo I ever uploaded:

 http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2662/4201002059_fe813d0b60_z.jpg


 I've done a lot of buying and selling of bikes.  My Hillborne got built up
 in a few different ways, in 2010 and 2011.  One of the coolest was this
 slick monstercross setup:

 http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4095/5604248171_e9f4b2942c_z.jpg


 Around that time (April 2011) we had scraped together every penny we had
 to move up to a larger house.  Amidst the scraping, I decided to sell the
 Hillborne, with the notion that when I could afford it I would buy a 58cm
 Atlantis to replace it.  I sold it to a nice friend of a friend.  I always
 missed it a little bit.

 Fast forward to 2013, I got the family to agree to send me to live-in
 framebuilding school in Arizona.  A two-week course building a lugged steel
 frameset.  As I thought about what I wanted and it was:  a 700c road bike,
 that'll take 38-40mm tires, cantilever brakes, 135mm rear end.  Where my
 Black Mountain is a great road bike for 28-32mm tires, I wanted a great
 road bike for 35-45mm tires.  I bought a set of 700x38 Soma C-Lines and
 started pulling the build kit together.  I had the full build kit done,
 when it turned out that the scheduling for the frame building class didn't
 work out, so we bagged that idea.

 A little while later a little bird told me that the fellow who had bought
 my Hillborne never got around to building it, so I reached out to him.
 Sure enough it was still hung up in his den, and lo and behold he was
 willing to sell it back to me for the same price I sold it to him for.  So,
 now I'm the re-owner of a lugged steel boomerang!  Throw it away and three
 years later it comes right back.  Stay tuned for the build!

 http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2892/12827065683_922e9cf760_z.jpg


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[RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

2014-02-27 Thread Shawn Granton

I really wanted to attempt the Bike Overnight a month club (my camping 
trips are rarely under 24 hours in length) this year. While Portland isn't 
as balmy as SoCal, it still is mild enough (usually) to pull off camping in 
the winter. But I realized that I didn't have enough time in January to 
pull it off, at least pull it off without stressing out about it. I've just 
decided to do as many Bike Overnights (and tours) as possible this year, 
and if I can get in one a month, it's good. I wrote about it over here:
http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/the-dangers-of-too-many-goals-and-plans/

yours,
Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

2014-02-27 Thread Manuel Acosta

Wait you can plan things?
I usually get kicked out of the house when I get super antsy and I'm told 
to come back when I feel better.
Usually this works out.



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[RBW] Re: Bunyan Velo No. 4

Atlantis on pages 92  99.  I've liked the previous issues so much I just 
went ahead  paid the $5 to download the PDF.  Fantastic photos for the 
price of a beer; how can you go wrong?  Plus with my old computer it's 
easier to read the PDF than on-line.  Just buy it! (no relation to the mag 
other than as a happy reader :-))

Thanks Rob for the heads up.

dougP


On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:17:37 PM UTC-8, rperks wrote:

 Many of you here may already know this, but Bunyan Velo No. 4 hit the 
 digital street today:

 http://bunyanvelo.com

 Click on issues up in the top right corner.  Lucas does this with little 
 of no ads, and the donations part helps keep the next issue coming. 

 Enjoy

 Rob


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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Frames FS



 New?!?!?!


Must be a dep warehouse at his place.

The 53 is tempting. 

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Frames FS



 Too tempting.


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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Frames FS



 Peter,


Where did you see this? I don't see it on his site. Just shot him an email 
though. Thanks for the heads up. 

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[RBW] Re: Reflection on S24O/Mo

2014-02-27 Thread Tom Virgil

Loving this thread.  Over on the Atlantis Fatties I made light of the 
medicine dance and (implied) humor of it.  Having now heard the forecast 
(Noah type deluge) and knowing the geography of Sunland/Tijunga, you take 
care, dear friend.

Best regards,

Tom



On Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:15:57 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hughes almost two month journey in this endeavor and the challenge he’s 
 having fitting in February’s S24O got me thinking on a number of fronts, 
 and I’d love to hear other’s thoughts:

 — The intriguing thing to me about going at least once a month is the 
 creativity and wonder and joy of experiencing beauty in all types of 
 weather. Well, for me personally, I get that range already, so I don’t need 
 the imposition of whether I go by bike, ski pulk, or for more than one 
 night. If I accidentally accomplish it, then cool. Grin.

 — I have enough challenges that for me the idea of an imposed schedule 
 would be a burden rather than a freedom, though I can easily see how the 
 structure could lead to freedom for others.

 That’s as far as I’ve gotten and I’d love to hear your experience and 
 thoughts.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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Re: [RBW] A lugged steel boomerang? My Hillborne is back!