[RBW] Re: Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[JP]

Thanks!  yes I did convert between the old chart and the new.  Good to know 
it’s not going to be sufficiently noticeable to worry!

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[RBW] Re: Bread (and bikes)

[Nick Payne]

For consumption on the second and third day after baking, I wrap my 
home-baked bread in beeswax-impregnated cloth and store it in the fridge. I 
only bake one fairly large loaf at a time, and between my wife and I that's 
enough for two or sometimes three days of lunches.

Nick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[MCT]

The white outline is top notch.  Great color scheme.  

Enjoy
Matt in OKc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"You might be the happiest person in quarantine."

I might! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

It’s lovely and so very different from the norm, which makes me like it extra. 
It looks modernized, but still retains its Rivendellian DNA. Oh it’s a 
Rivendell, alright, but it’s been reborn. Like Gandalf the Grey —> Gandalf the 
White. I hope you have it in your possession soon! You might be the happiest 
person in quarantine.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Leah Peterson]

Give that little doll-face dumpling a squeeze from me - she’s so lucky she gets 
to start out her life riding a Rivendell designed  for her! How many other 
babies can say the same!

I bet your Bebe rides a lot like my Clem, which means you’re going to love it 
whether hauling kiddos or riding mountain trails. And you got in that luscious 
blue that you will never tire of.

I really hope we hear more out of Walnut Creek about this new Cheviot soon. I 
don’t want to nag Riv so I won’t ask, but I’ll tell myself it will be 
Christmas, and if a Cheviot ends up at my house before then I’ll be thrilled. 

Oh, one more thing. Remember when the Anniversary Mixte was all the rage and we 
were going to meet up and make a big thing of it? If COVID restrictions are 
lifted and the new Cheviots come in at a time when the weather is favorable, a 
bunch of us should meet to pick up our bikes and ride them and drink all the 
coffee and whatever else. Wouldn’t that be so fun?

Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Pancake  wrote:
> 
> Happy to have my bike confused for one of Leah’s!
> 
> The rear seat is just for looks for now - though we are hoping to adopt a 
> second child! Currently the rear rack is a support rack, not enough weight 
> bearing for a baby seat. But I have a suitable rack ready for the rear seat 
> (max 40 pounds) once our little girl is too big for the front seat (max 33 
> pounds).
> 
> I would be thrilled if things line up so I can have babies both in front and 
> back one day though! And after that I’ll be happy to make the Rosco Baby into 
> a bike packing mountain trail machine, it’s flexy and stout all at once, 
> really a great ride!
> 
> Abe
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Robert Tilley]

Great color choice and an amazing paint job as usual. I visited Joe's shop 
years ago since he's local and still remember seeing all the Riv and Sachs 
frames there waiting for paint. I need to go back...

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA


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Subject: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom


On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:54:51 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

[Nathan Mattia]

Hey Tim!  Sorry you missed it.  We will do it again, soon, I hope.

-Nathan Mattia

“I saw a tiger.  Now I understand. I saw a tiger, and the tiger saw a man.” 
-Abraham Lincoln

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Tim Rogers <97re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm sorry I didn't see this until today. Sunday was a beautiful day ... I was 
> out riding the Monarch Trail in Chesterfield. Had I known, "Clem" and I would 
> have gladly joined you. If you ever organize another local ride and do so by 
> building on this thread, I think the forum will ping me (and the others) now 
> that we've responded.
> 
>> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 11:23:06 AM UTC-5, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>> Hello my fellow Riv-Heads of the Gateway City
>> 
>>  In the 3 years that I have been back into bikes, and aware of Rivendell, I 
>> have had the pleasure of running into 3 different Riv-Riders.  One, the 
>> venerable Jeff Smith, had enough time to stop and have a 1/2 hour 
>> conversation before my wife called and started yapping about missing dinner.
>> 
>> The point is, that conversation was lovely, and I need more of it.  I want 
>> to see other people’s rigs up close and personal. I want to know which local 
>> mechanics are worth their salt.  I want to know some insights on the local 
>> trails beyond my beloved Forest Park.
>> 
>> Let’s get together, shall we?  There has never been a time (since, perhaps 
>> college) when I have had more time to go for a ride and a get together.  I 
>> am literally free for at least a part of every day.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

JB does amazing work. 

–Eric N


> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:54:51 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
>> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>> 
>> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet
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[RBW] Bread (and bikes)

[Philip Williamson]

Keep freezing it.
Toasting or simply leaving the bread on the counter works fine too. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

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[RBW] Re: Tool for fender stays

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 5:03:47 AM UTC+8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> This is a really dumb question but I don't know the answer. I need to 
> mount some fenders on my Frank Jones and y'all seem to use a big cutting 
> tool for trimming the stays..which one do I buy? I have a Dremel and tried 
> that once, but it was an ear-splitting hot mess. I just want to lop off the 
> ends.


I use different tools for different kinds of stays:

   - For the Honjo/Berthoud "wraparound" kind, I use a small pipe cutter 
   
.
 
   Pipe cutters slice through the aluminum stays easily and leave nice ends 
   that seldom require additional finishing.
   - For the Planet Bike/SKS "stick up" kind, I break out my angle grinder 
   and eyes & ears, to make quick work of the stainless steel stays. Trim and 
   finish with just one tool.
   

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[RBW] Re: Tool for fender stays

[George Millwood]

Thanks, just what I need and the same brand as my wife's favourite 
secateurs!

On Wednesday, 29 April 2020 12:05:30 UTC+10, Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
> I would recommend a Felco C7 cutter. Expensive, yes. Lifetime purchase: 
> great for cutting brake and derailleur cables, housing, spokes

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[RBW] Re: Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[dougP]

JP:

If the Atlantis, Homer or Sam were all set-up the same as far as racks, 
bags, gear, etc., none should feel any heavier than the others.  Since 
you're in Rivendell's back yard, they can advise you on appropriate 
gearing.  They typically use wide range cassettes (e.g., 11-34 & 12-36) so 
with their "wide low double" (26 x 38?) you get a low gear that will exceed 
your 1:1 spec.  

Since they went to the long wheelbase, lots of the geometry specs have 
changed. Comparing frame sizes based on seat tube length can be deceiving.  
I have a 58 cm '03 Toyo Atlantis.  A while back I tried out a new, long 
wheelbase Atlantis at Riv.  They asked me a couple of questions, grabbed 
one out of the line-up, set the seat height & said "have fun, and let us 
know what you think".  It rode more comfortably than my bike and handled 
well on the trails.  When I returned, they told me it was a 53 cm, but due 
to the sloping top tube it fit me as well as my 58, while providing gobs 
more standover height (a desirable characteristic on trails).

You say you've bought the Atlantis.  Just build it up & enjoy it.  I think 
you'll be pleased with the ride & handling.

dougP

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 6:41:29 PM UTC-7, JP wrote:
>
>
> (As I mentioned previously i thought i "needed" a new bike but don't.  
> However, it was too late I wanted a new bike.)
>
> I had always planned on getting a 63 MUSA Homer, but I just bought a New 
> Atlantis frame based on the following logic:
>
> 1. The best bike i've ridden has been the my dads Homer 63 cm Toyo.  
> 2. I've loved my Sam but i always like how the Homer was bigger (and it 
> felt longer).  The new bikes in the running (New Homer, New Atlantis and 
> Appaloosa) are all even longer than the 63cm Homer
> 3. Shell ridge is very close to where i live and i would be interested in 
> riding there.
> 4. Even if I was going to get the New Homer, it's sold out in my size.
> 4. Will @ RBW said an Appaloosa with Homer sized tires will feel more like 
> a "Homer" than a Homer with big tires would.
> 5. Appaloosa is also sold out.
> 6. New Atlantis even longer and sturdier 
>
> I'm possibly going to cannibalize the Sam and then sell the frame, the 
> silver sidepull brakes, and possibly the crank if RBW can't help me get a 
> 1-1 ratio out the small ring.  Or sell to family member.
>
> My brother has a 62 hunq and it doesn't feel a little heavier to ride than 
> the homer, but not dramatically so.  I've read the "weight thread" and I 
> still don't feel like i know the answer and so i thought it would ask 
>
> *Is the New Atlantis going to fill "heavy" compared to a Sam or Homer?*
>
> JP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Medium Saddlesack

[JC]

Looking for a medium Saddlesack, preferably in brown or tan. Thanks!

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[RBW] Tool for fender stays

[Ken Yokanovich]

I would recommend a Felco C7 cutter. Expensive, yes. Lifetime purchase: great 
for cutting brake and derailleur cables, housing, spokes

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[RBW] Re: Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[JP]

Nice thanks!   Just having a bike that fits me at 6'2", that doesn't 
require me to stand on my head, and has friction shifting is a miracle.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 6:53:44 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> JP,
>
> My two ridable Rivs are opposites on the Riv spectrum. The svelt Quickbeam 
> as a fixed gear cross bike and Gus Boots Willsen as an MTB all ways hauler. 
> Do they feel different to ride? Absolutely. The reality is, however, that 
> for all that, they arrive to the same spot on the same trail under the same 
> conditions within minutes of each other. Each is a delight to ride and you 
> will love the Atlantis. The engine matters more, and every Riv you ride 
> will have the same engine. No way round that. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

[Tim Rogers]

I'm sorry I didn't see this until today. Sunday was a beautiful day ... I 
was out riding the Monarch Trail in Chesterfield. Had I known, "Clem" and I 
would have gladly joined you. If you ever organize another local ride and 
do so by building on this thread, I think the forum will ping me (and the 
others) now that we've responded.

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 11:23:06 AM UTC-5, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>
> Hello my fellow Riv-Heads of the Gateway City
>
>  In the 3 years that I have been back into bikes, and aware of Rivendell, 
> I have had the pleasure of running into 3 different Riv-Riders.  One, the 
> venerable Jeff Smith, had enough time to stop and have a 1/2 hour 
> conversation before my wife called and started yapping about missing dinner.
>
> The point is, that conversation was lovely, and I need more of it.  I want 
> to see other people’s rigs up close and personal. I want to know which 
> local mechanics are worth their salt.  I want to know some insights on the 
> local trails beyond my beloved Forest Park.
>
> Let’s get together, shall we?  There has never been a time (since, perhaps 
> college) when I have had more time to go for a ride and a get together.  I 
> am literally free for at least a part of every day.
>

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[RBW] Re: Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

JP,

My two ridable Rivs are opposites on the Riv spectrum. The svelt Quickbeam 
as a fixed gear cross bike and Gus Boots Willsen as an MTB all ways hauler. 
Do they feel different to ride? Absolutely. The reality is, however, that 
for all that, they arrive to the same spot on the same trail under the same 
conditions within minutes of each other. Each is a delight to ride and you 
will love the Atlantis. The engine matters more, and every Riv you ride 
will have the same engine. No way round that. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 7:41:29 PM UTC-6, JP wrote:
>
>
> (As I mentioned previously i thought i "needed" a new bike but don't.  
> However, it was too late I wanted a new bike.)
>
> I had always planned on getting a 63 MUSA Homer, but I just bought a New 
> Atlantis frame based on the following logic:
>
> 1. The best bike i've ridden has been the my dads Homer 63 cm Toyo.  
> 2. I've loved my Sam but i always like how the Homer was bigger (and it 
> felt longer).  The new bikes in the running (New Homer, New Atlantis and 
> Appaloosa) are all even longer than the 63cm Homer
> 3. Shell ridge is very close to where i live and i would be interested in 
> riding there.
> 4. Even if I was going to get the New Homer, it's sold out in my size.
> 4. Will @ RBW said an Appaloosa with Homer sized tires will feel more like 
> a "Homer" than a Homer with big tires would.
> 5. Appaloosa is also sold out.
> 6. New Atlantis even longer and sturdier 
>
> I'm possibly going to cannibalize the Sam and then sell the frame, the 
> silver sidepull brakes, and possibly the crank if RBW can't help me get a 
> 1-1 ratio out the small ring.  Or sell to family member.
>
> My brother has a 62 hunq and it doesn't feel a little heavier to ride than 
> the homer, but not dramatically so.  I've read the "weight thread" and I 
> still don't feel like i know the answer and so i thought it would ask 
>
> *Is the New Atlantis going to fill "heavy" compared to a Sam or Homer?*
>
> JP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[JP]

(As I mentioned previously i thought i "needed" a new bike but don't.  
However, it was too late I wanted a new bike.)

I had always planned on getting a 63 MUSA Homer, but I just bought a New 
Atlantis frame based on the following logic:

1. The best bike i've ridden has been the my dads Homer 63 cm Toyo.  
2. I've loved my Sam but i always like how the Homer was bigger (and it 
felt longer).  The new bikes in the running (New Homer, New Atlantis and 
Appaloosa) are all even longer than the 63cm Homer
3. Shell ridge is very close to where i live and i would be interested in 
riding there.
4. Even if I was going to get the New Homer, it's sold out in my size.
4. Will @ RBW said an Appaloosa with Homer sized tires will feel more like 
a "Homer" than a Homer with big tires would.
5. Appaloosa is also sold out.
6. New Atlantis even longer and sturdier 

I'm possibly going to cannibalize the Sam and then sell the frame, the 
silver sidepull brakes, and possibly the crank if RBW can't help me get a 
1-1 ratio out the small ring.  Or sell to family member.

My brother has a 62 hunq and it doesn't feel a little heavier to ride than 
the homer, but not dramatically so.  I've read the "weight thread" and I 
still don't feel like i know the answer and so i thought it would ask 

*Is the New Atlantis going to fill "heavy" compared to a Sam or Homer?*

JP






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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Pancake]

Happy to have my bike confused for one of Leah’s!

The rear seat is just for looks for now - though we are hoping to adopt a 
second child! Currently the rear rack is a support rack, not enough weight 
bearing for a baby seat. But I have a suitable rack ready for the rear seat 
(max 40 pounds) once our little girl is too big for the front seat (max 33 
pounds).

I would be thrilled if things line up so I can have babies both in front and 
back one day though! And after that I’ll be happy to make the Rosco Baby into a 
bike packing mountain trail machine, it’s flexy and stout all at once, really a 
great ride!

Abe

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[James Davis]

Thanks, John! Yeah, it was a real special day in the front range! The
gradient was real crazy!

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 5:51 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> Lovely bike and gorgeous sky! Wow!
>
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 10:54:17 AM UTC-7, James Davis wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 7:45:43 PM UTC-6, John Rinker wrote:
>> > Beautiful day in BC with a ramble and picnic by the river. Spring is
>> here!
>>
>> Wow, John, that’s a gorgeous Hunq! I will share my Bullmoose bar’d MUSA
>> Atlantis from my ride yesterday up at a decommissioned army base here near
>> Denver.
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Re: [RBW] 59 CM Roadeo for sale

[Paul Y]

Welcome to the Roadeo owners club, Jonathan.

Don has helped stir a good number of us into this company with his posts.

I have several times thought of selling my Roadeo because it is not as useful 
or as practical as my Sam, but when my roadie habit recurs, the Roadeo is 
instantly indispensable. 

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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

[JAS]

Leah, thanks.  You're a gem!

#RivSisters

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> Joyce, I love you. It must be said. You are the MOST fun. 
>
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> > 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[J L]

I like this attitude. There is no right of wrong. 

One tip I have learned from this thread was to plan for my water consumption. 
That was the sort of no brainer thing that I never considered. I was happy to 
learn from someone else’s experience. 

Jason


> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Jeffrey Arita  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Jason,
> 
> IMHO cyclo-touring/bikepacking or whatever you want to call it, there is no 
> right or wrong.  I think the key is just to get out there.  I agree, that 
> first step is the hardest.  One caveat though: If you do go out, you may 
> never want to come back ;)
> 
> I attached a pic of my rig for the GDMBR.  My wife's bike was eerily similar. 
>  This was Summer 2017.  Again, there is no right or wrong.  We encountered a 
> guy riding an older bike in which he attached 5-gallon plastic buckets as his 
> panniers (covered in plastic wrap for waterproofing).  It worked for him.
> 
> Finally: Most people will attest that when one carries this much stuff you 
> can go for 1 night, 1 week, or 1 month (depending upon the weather of course).
> 
> Good luck and have fun!
> 
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 6:41:08 PM UTC-7, J L wrote:
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any sage 
>> advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the house, 
>> do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>> 
>> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a backpack 
>> or bike basket and going. 
>> 
>> Jason 
>> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[J L]

Thanks! 

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:54 PM, Craig Montgomery  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here's a fun one for you Jason. From the master himself: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny81vcxTZQk 
> 
> Ian always said what you take for the weekend is the same as what you take 
> around the world. The only difference is the amount of food and water. Of 
> course when he said it we didn't have satellite weather like now. So you had 
> to be prepared for anything and everything. Have been looking for a stove 
> like that but they're pretty pricey now.
> 
> Craig in Tucson, rereading my "Into the Remote Places" 
> 
>> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 6:41:08 PM UTC-7, J L wrote:
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any sage 
>> advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the house, 
>> do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>> 
>> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a backpack 
>> or bike basket and going. 
>> 
>> Jason 
>> SF, CA
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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[John Rinker]

Lovely bike and gorgeous sky! Wow!

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 10:54:17 AM UTC-7, James Davis wrote:
>
> On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 7:45:43 PM UTC-6, John Rinker wrote: 
> > Beautiful day in BC with a ramble and picnic by the river. Spring is 
> here! 
>
> Wow, John, that’s a gorgeous Hunq! I will share my Bullmoose bar’d MUSA 
> Atlantis from my ride yesterday up at a decommissioned army base here near 
> Denver. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: eJoe

[Dave Redmon]

I have a Bafang front hub motor on my Sam Hillbirne with instrumentation
and control by Grin Tech iof Vancouver, BC. With PAS as well as throttle, I
can travel 28-36 miles on my 36V / 14.5 Ah battery. I have an anti slip
lever attached to the front axle to retain the motor in my front dropouts.
So far, I've found it to be a smooth set up. Grin does a good job with
technical assistance.

Dave in Kansas

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:04 PM Rick Thompson  wrote:

> I did one, on a hardtail mtn bike which is now my commuter. As Joe says,
> the only special tools were to tighten those big locking nuts at the BB. I
> thought mine were tight enough first try, but the motor came loose and
> rotated down in under a thousand miles. I don't think you can overtighten.
> If mine comes loose again I will get one of those stabilizer bars that
> clamps to the chainstay, only about $20 and should work better. My other
> mechanical install issue was getting the chainring aligned, took a few
> trips to the local ebike shop for spacers at the BB and spacers on the
> ring. Each install may need some tweaks like that.
>
> I think those high power mid-drives do need to depower when shifting, they
> are really hard on drive components. I did not use an inline shift cutout,
> instead use a cutout button. That has turned out to be useful as it works
> for shifting and also allows a quick way to go unboosted when maneuvering
> around cars or other objects at slow speeds.
>
>
> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 6:52:48 PM UTC-7, J Imler wrote:
>>
>> This project is back. I’ve got a mid-drive Bafang BBSHD (1500w capable)
>> ordered. I plan on making some how-to videos during the install. I’ve read
>> a lot, bought tools for the job including a 1970’s Impact Driver from
>> Japan, mid-drive speciality components to protect the frame from torque
>> overload, airplane grease, etc... My goal is to reach local regional or
>> state park fun spots via bike with my boy in tow on his Burley trailer.
>>
>> Any BBSHD owners out there?
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[RBW] Re: eJoe

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, I use an inline cutout. The power cranking through the drivetrain is 
nothing to be trifled with. 

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo - The Final Rivendell Edition

[MCT]

Paul. Thanks for sharing photos.  I didn’t go with the P45s in case I needed to 
do some bending.  

John G. The tires are 700x32 and def the max size with fenders.  I don’t like a 
large front bag except for commuting, so my plan is a large rear bag and small 
front bag. I can fit most everything I would need to have while riding in the 
front with a small bag.  Anything I need while stopped can fit in the back no 
problem. It is backwards to the typical brevet bike, but works for me. 

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[RBW] Re: eJoe

[Rick Thompson]

I did one, on a hardtail mtn bike which is now my commuter. As Joe says, 
the only special tools were to tighten those big locking nuts at the BB. I 
thought mine were tight enough first try, but the motor came loose and 
rotated down in under a thousand miles. I don't think you can overtighten. 
If mine comes loose again I will get one of those stabilizer bars that 
clamps to the chainstay, only about $20 and should work better. My other 
mechanical install issue was getting the chainring aligned, took a few 
trips to the local ebike shop for spacers at the BB and spacers on the 
ring. Each install may need some tweaks like that. 

I think those high power mid-drives do need to depower when shifting, they 
are really hard on drive components. I did not use an inline shift cutout, 
instead use a cutout button. That has turned out to be useful as it works 
for shifting and also allows a quick way to go unboosted when maneuvering 
around cars or other objects at slow speeds. 


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>
> This project is back. I’ve got a mid-drive Bafang BBSHD (1500w capable) 
> ordered. I plan on making some how-to videos during the install. I’ve read 
> a lot, bought tools for the job including a 1970’s Impact Driver from 
> Japan, mid-drive speciality components to protect the frame from torque 
> overload, airplane grease, etc... My goal is to reach local regional or 
> state park fun spots via bike with my boy in tow on his Burley trailer. 
>
> Any BBSHD owners out there? 
>
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[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica rubber saddle (R2)

[Eric G@rs]

Thanks for the info, Erl. I think I'll purchase another leather saddle from 
SA instead. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Joe Bernard]

Leah: At first I thought that was your Clem. Then I realized you're probably 
not carrying those boys on it 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Leah Peterson]

They nailed RBW blue, don’t you think? Lovely. That bike reminds me a lot of my 
Clem, actually! Also, I’m noticing there are *2* baby seats on that Bebe❤️❤️

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Pancake  wrote:
> 
> Not from Paul and maybe not the swoops you’re after - but proud (Rosco) Bebe 
> Daddy here happy to post pics.
> Abe “excited for ChevDeux but more interested in pics of the Charles Gallop”
> 
> 
> Roberta wrote:
>> Paul. 
>> 
>> Can you show us some pics of the swished tubes of your Roscoe Bebe-with or 
>> without Bebe aboard .
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Re: [RBW] Tool for fender stays

[Joe Bernard]

I do have a file so I'm halfway there. 

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Re: [RBW] Tool for fender stays

[Steve Palincsar]

But you'll need to clean it up with a file afterwards.

On 4/28/20 5:04 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

You need a small bolt cutter. Goes through alloy stays like butter.

--Eric Norris
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campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 

On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Joe Bernard > wrote:


This is a really dumb question but I don't know the answer. I need to 
mount some fenders on my Frank Jones and y'all seem to use a big 
cutting tool for trimming the stays..which one do I buy? I have a 
Dremel and tried that once, but it was an ear-splitting hot mess. I 
just want to lop off the ends.


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Re: [RBW] Tool for fender stays

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

No worries. I appreciate clarity myself, and I know that finding stuff on 
Amazon can be a challenge—too many choices!

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> Perfect! Thanks, Eric. I apologize to the list for what may seem obvious to 
> you, I have certain (and entirely unpredictable) neuro-atypical blocks in the 
> old brain that make the obvious way not obvious to me. It's always an 
> adventure! 
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Re: [RBW] Tool for fender stays

[Joe Bernard]

Perfect! Thanks, Eric. I apologize to the list for what may seem obvious to 
you, I have certain (and entirely unpredictable) neuro-atypical blocks in the 
old brain that make the obvious way not obvious to me. It's always an 
adventure! 

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[RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

[Dean Drake]

Nathan,

Beautiful. 

Dean

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 5:11:11 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> We need some fun threads in these trying times. COVID-19 has taken a lot, 
> but it can’t have everything. Most of us live in places where biking is 
> still considered safe during a pandemic. As long as that’s the case, the 
> wheels of my beautiful blue Clem will be rolling, eating up the miles in a 
> lovely Nevada spring. 
>
> Post your 30 days of biking photos of you with your Rivendell here! I’ll 
> go first. I missed Day 1, but I have the Apple Watch workout to prove I 
> rode. I found some new protected trails, all blacktop, and had a blast. My 
> family was happy to be rid of me - between the conference calls my husband 
> was having and the school Zoom sessions my sons were attending, my banging 
> around in the kitchen was irritating all of them. Day 2 took me to the 
> drive-up window of the bank. Not terribly exciting, but the sun felt so 
> good and the errand was necessary. I love doing errands by bike!
>
> There are lots of people out on bikes right now; I want to tell them it’s 
> 30 Days of Biking so they can work towards the goal, too. Sadly, most of 
> the kids I’ve seen are on bikes one size too small, at least. Also, most of 
> the kids are wobbly and don’t appear confident; biking is not something 
> they do often, I’d guess. But maybe we’ll make some new converts out of 
> them anyway.
>
> Leah
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[RBW] Re: FS: XL Rando-style Waxed Canvas & Leather Handlebar Bag

[ant ritchey]

Final bump and price drop:
$160 + shipping

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 3:17:49 PM UTC-7, ant ritchey wrote:
>
> For sale is my Treetop handle bar bag. Made in Chicago, IL by iBob/RBWOG 
> member David Banzer. 
>
> This bag is perfect for a large-frame bicycle in so many ways. Alas - I am 
> a basket man, through and through. 
>
> Classic looking, Berthoud-inspired construction of Martexin waxed canvas 
> with leather trim. Color scheme exquisitely matches any brown or honey 
> Brooks/shellacked cloth & twine motif. The bag was designed to sit on a 
> Nitto M32 or M1 and does so perfectly, yet will work fine with a number of 
> other front racks. David left off protruding side pockets for better cable 
> routing when running bar end shifters. Slim ones instead allow storage of a 
> few tools, maps, thin book, etc. Otherwise the capacity on this thing is 
> huge, it's the Carradice Camper Longflap of handlebar bags. I've never seen 
> one as big and beautiful. And yet when paired with a frame 60cm and up it 
> looks quite proportionate. D rings on the side work great for a shoulder 
> strap or guyline-style lashing to the bars in case you really wanna load 
> this thing up. Corrugated plastic inserts for stiffening can be removed if 
> so desired. Super tough leather underside for durability with many options 
> for lashing or affixing this bag more permanently. 
>
> Dimension of the main cavity, not including width added by exterior 
> pockets:
> 11.5" top to bottom X 10" side to side X 7" front to back.
> Bottom of bag to center of decaleur crossbar is 9.5" 
>
> Also included are the basic Velo Orange decaleur (for 1" steerer) and a 
> vintage camera strap for shoulder-carry. A few images show a Nitto M-1 rack 
> for frame of reference only; it shant be included in the sale.
>
> A few things to note:
> Clear map case on top top bag cracked and split so i removed it.
> The velcro for the map case (top, aft part of the bag) is VERY strong and 
> pull apart some of its own stitching. A moot point since the map case cover 
> has been removed.
> Clasp on the front pocket worked its way loose. My short term remedy was 
> to loop the elastic over and under the front rack tab (in turn this 
> provided better back stability.
>
> PICS HERE - SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN 
> 
>  (Anything 
> else pictured in this folder is also still for sale, FYI.) 
> 2 sets of images to view the bag in around-the-clock glory.
>
> Price is $175 + shipping, firm. ..For any less I'll just leave it sitting 
> on my coffee table and admire it!
>
> -Ant Ritchey in PDX OR
>

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Re: [RBW] Tool for fender stays

[Joe Bernard]

Eric, what do I call a small bolt cutter in the search thingy? Is there a 
specific one you like? 

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[RBW] Re: Tool for fender stays

[lconley]

I use a hacksaw to cut and a bench grinder to smooth.

Laing

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 5:03:47 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

> This is a really dumb question but I don't know the answer. I need to 
> mount some fenders on my Frank Jones and y'all seem to use a big cutting 
> tool for trimming the stays..which one do I buy? I have a Dremel and tried 
> that once, but it was an ear-splitting hot mess. I just want to lop off the 
> ends. 

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[RBW] A Corona-Virus Aid Project

[Rich Lesnik]

This is Rich (Riv wheel builder). I have 1 slightly-used rim (tubular, 700/32 
Mavic GP4, with a Vittoria Cronometro CS tire), and one new Mavic CXP 33 which 
has been previously laced.

I propose the following: You choose a hub, I build the wheel (cost will be 
$175+cost of the hub), and I will donate all proceeds to a homeless shelter 
(Trinity House) here in Walnut Creek.

You can send me an email at Rivendell (you probably know the email address) if 
you’re interested.

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Re: [RBW] Tool for fender stays

[Steven Sweedler]

Joe, I use a hacksaw. And a file to smooth off the ends. Steve

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 5:03 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> This is a really dumb question but I don't know the answer. I need to
> mount some fenders on my Frank Jones and y'all seem to use a big cutting
> tool for trimming the stays..which one do I buy? I have a Dremel and tried
> that once, but it was an ear-splitting hot mess. I just want to lop off the
> ends.
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Re: [RBW] Tool for fender stays

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You need a small bolt cutter. Goes through alloy stays like butter.

--Eric Norris
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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> This is a really dumb question but I don't know the answer. I need to mount 
> some fenders on my Frank Jones and y'all seem to use a big cutting tool for 
> trimming the stays..which one do I buy? I have a Dremel and tried that once, 
> but it was an ear-splitting hot mess. I just want to lop off the ends. 
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[RBW] Tool for fender stays

[Joe Bernard]

This is a really dumb question but I don't know the answer. I need to mount 
some fenders on my Frank Jones and y'all seem to use a big cutting tool for 
trimming the stays..which one do I buy? I have a Dremel and tried that once, 
but it was an ear-splitting hot mess. I just want to lop off the ends. 

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[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[Jock Dewey]

Jason:

Should maybe include a list of disclaimers -- I don't necessarily recommend 
following my tracks. But you can ride coast to coast just like this if 
you're crazy enough and don't know the difference.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/39787656583/in/album-72157704309319711/

BTW, Craig's the expert, follow his advice not mine.

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA



On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:41:08 PM UTC-4, J L wrote:
>
> Hello all, 
>
> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any 
> sage advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the 
> house, do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>
> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a 
> backpack or bike basket and going. 
>
> Jason 
> SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Bread (and bikes)

[Mat Grewe]

Are you using commercial yeast or sourdough starter as your leavening?  And 
what is the moisture content of the bread you are making?  Simply divide 
the grams of water used by the grams of flour.

I make sourdough bread with a fairly high moisture content in the loaf 
itself (70%) and bake it in a dutch oven, which develops a nice thick, 
crunchy crust.  That does a pretty good job protecting the loaf, and I put 
the cut side down on the counter.  That last a few days before the crust 
gets *really* hard, but the inside is still soft.  Sometimes after a few 
days I'll put the loaf in a sealed container (pyrex bowl with a lid) and 
that softens the crust up enough to make cutting easier.

I've heard of using bags like this 
, but have not felt the 
need to try them out.

I am in Minnesota/Wisconsin and although it is usually drier in the winter, 
it is still far more humid than your climate.  However you could try 
keeping the cut side down, making a loaf with a higher moisture content 
(especially since you are using whole wheat flour), and try building up the 
thickness of the crust.

Mat
Recently biked home with a wimpy 5 pounds of flour


On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 4:58:27 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Mostly bread. I just baked another batch, whole wheat, bolus after 
> kneading but before baking was 54.6 oz. That made 2 moderately-sized 
> loaves, far more than I and my daughter can eat in the 1-2 days before 
> bread left out goes stale here in our dry climate. We eat flour tortillas 
> and rice and pasta and potatoes, too, so we don't eat bread daily.
>
> I've taken to freezing my bread after slicing it into more-or-less 
> sandwich-thick slices, the nuking it briefly, just long enough to soften 
> and not long enough to heat. I do something similar with tortillas, too; 
> tho' usually heat both sides on little grill over gas burner until soft or 
> heat on a cast iron griddle.
>
> But what do you others do to keep bread fresh? Again, dry climate.
>
> The freezing method works fine; the nuked results are near-fresh in 
> texture and taste. But I'm curious about other possibilities.
>
> Bike content" carried 15 lb of King Arthur stone ground "white" whole 
> wheat flour home on the bike, along with much else. Don't usually buy KA or 
> "white" whole wheat, but it was all left on the shelf at the time.
>
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>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

[Leah Peterson]

Joyce, I love you. It must be said. You are the MOST fun.

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 12:33 PM, JAS  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

[JAS]

I'm ready with my money, too!  This new Cheviot is a beauty with that 
swoopy tube.  Though my favorite color is blue, I would be very happy with 
the silver because I could dress her up with a bright blue bag and tape, 
maybe some blue "bling" like pedals, hubs and bolts.  I'm going with light 
weight fancy wheels, maybe tubeless since that's what all the cool 
#RivSisters seem to be doing and I love a group effort.  I'm looking 
forward to hearing an "order now" date!

More power to the M.O.M.s and RivSisters!

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:19:20 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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> See, Toshi is just RIGHT. Red. And we should all have mixtes. I’m a fan!
>
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>
> 
> Looks wonderful, but the color should be red!
>
> Toshi
> Man on Mixte in Oakland
>
> P.S. My Cheviot is getting the most rides now because I do all my shopping 
> with it
>
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>
>> Paul, I see it just like that - but with red hearts. ❤️ I definitely 
>> think you should get in on this. Men with Mixtes - we should have a patch 
>> made. 
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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

[Leah Peterson]

See, Toshi is just RIGHT. Red. And we should all have mixtes. I’m a fan!

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> 
> Looks wonderful, but the color should be red!
> 
> Toshi
> Man on Mixte in Oakland
> 
> P.S. My Cheviot is getting the most rides now because I do all my shopping 
> with it
> 
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>> you should get in on this. Men with Mixtes - we should have a patch made. 
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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Looks wonderful, but the color should be red!

Toshi
Man on Mixte in Oakland

P.S. My Cheviot is getting the most rides now because I do all my shopping
with it

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> Paul, I see it just like that - but with red hearts. ❤️ I definitely think
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Re: [RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

[James Davis]

I second that sentiment on the practicality of mixtes for all folks. Mixtes
are just pure magic. There was about a year after getting my Clem-L where I
just refused to throw my leg over a top tube. It was all smooth Clem-L
riding that I would do. M.O.M. Is also a delightfully confusing acronym for
us men on mixtes.

James Gardner Davis
Denver, CO

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Tom Wyland]

Yes this is the Riv for me.  In orange, please!  I hope it will clear 2.0 
wide tires with fenders as well. Take my money!

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[RBW] Fancy Cheviot!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Paul, I see it just like that - but with red hearts. ❤️ I definitely think you 
should get in on this. Men with Mixtes - we should have a patch made. 

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Re: [RBW] Intro to Group!! Toyo AHH

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Beautiful bike!  Love the color

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:04 AM Garrett Berkey  wrote:

> Hello! I am new to the group and thought I would share my Toyo AHH with
> everyone. I have done a couple camping trips with rear panniers, and the
> frame really didn't like the weight back there (the flex through the frame
> while at a good speed and pedaling was scary). I even towed my dog when he
> was a puppy! He weighs 45lbs now so I am going to spare the Homer of
> pulling him. I decided to take the rear rack off and enjoy it as a rando
> bike. I love how confident this bike feels at speed on either smooth tarmac
> or a bumpy gravel descent. There are fewer and fewer people with rim brakes
> on the gravel rides, but this A Homer Hilsen will do just fine for a long
> time to come.
>
> Nitto Noodle, TRP Levers, Silver Long Reach Brakes, Phil Wood Hubs F/R,
> 2x7sp. Sugino XD Cranks, Brooks B17, Nitto S83, Ultegra Headset + BB, Nitto
> Mark's Rack, Acorn Bags (just in case people were curious)
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[RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

[johnboy]

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 3:11:11 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
> We need some fun threads in these trying times. COVID-19 has taken a lot, but 
> it can’t have everything. Most of us live in places where biking is still 
> considered safe during a pandemic. As long as that’s the case, the wheels of 
> my beautiful blue Clem will be rolling, eating up the miles in a lovely 
> Nevada spring. 
> 
> 
> Post your 30 days of biking photos of you with your Rivendell here! I’ll go 
> first. I missed Day 1, but I have the Apple Watch workout to prove I rode. I 
> found some new protected trails, all blacktop, and had a blast. My family was 
> happy to be rid of me - between the conference calls my husband was having 
> and the school Zoom sessions my sons were attending, my banging around in the 
> kitchen was irritating all of them. Day 2 took me to the drive-up window of 
> the bank. Not terribly exciting, but the sun felt so good and the errand was 
> necessary. I love doing errands by bike!
> 
> 
> There are lots of people out on bikes right now; I want to tell them it’s 30 
> Days of Biking so they can work towards the goal, too. Sadly, most of the 
> kids I’ve seen are on bikes one size too small, at least. Also, most of the 
> kids are wobbly and don’t appear confident; biking is not something they do 
> often, I’d guess. But maybe we’ll make some new converts out of them anyway.
> 
> 
> Leah


Sunday morning Two Bridges ride. Mt. Tamalpais from above Cal Maritime in 
Vallejo and Mt. Diablo from Benicia State Rec Area.   John- Walnut Creek,

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[RBW] Re: FS: 51cm Joey Appaloosa Silver & Tan

[Denise Granger]

SOLD!

On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:30:51 PM UTC-7, Denise Granger wrote:
>
> Hi, Below is the original posting back in December. A lot happened to me 
> before I ever really was able to pursue selling this bike - namely I had to 
> have my right foot reconstructed and was unable to walk for 3 months. Not 
> to worry i'm way better now but now I'd like to sell this bike to someone 
> who will give "Pal Joey" a great home. I live in San Diego and will offer 
> the bike at a discount of $1350 + package and ship in the U.S.. for $150 
> or we can arrange a pickup for free. Please let me know if you are 
> interested in this great bicycle.
>
>
> I bought this Joey Frameset (2017) after selling my partner's (2011) Sam 
> Hillborne Frameset (too big for her/too small for me). Used most of the 
> parts from the original Sam build except for the Albatross bars, cork & bar 
> end shifters, brake levers, seat, fenders (honjo replaced the ones that 
> came with the Sam), pedals and the crankset of which I found used on this 
> site a while back (170mm)(not super great, but works for me). The Tubus 
> Rack also came with the Sam as well. I still have drop bars, a few various 
> stems, an additional set of the cantilever brakes (new) and the Brooks 
> (B17) saddle that came with the Sam. This bike has been great and I used it 
> for riding to the YMCA and the Farmers Market and Store or just to tool 
> around. It's an awesome bike but I need to sell  to make room for the bike 
> I just built up for the same purpose and to do some bike packing on. I am 
> asking $ 1,500.00 for the bike only + cost of packing and shipping if 
> necessary - but would prefer a local pick up. There are a few marks on the 
> bike and fenders as it got used quite a bit but it's in great condition. 
>
> Link for photos - https://photos.app.goo.gl/dangQ3J8HMB5Caqh8 
>

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[RBW] Re: New member with old Riv

[RichS]

Welcome to the group Jim! 

Ahh, nothing like an All-Rounder sitting in your garage to jump start your 
riding. The AR was one of my inspirations to purchase an Atlantis in 2015. 
Have fun reacquainting with an old friend. 

Best,
Rich in ATL


On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 11:09:11 AM UTC-4, Jingy wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I just joined this group a few weeks ago and have just been sitting back 
> reading posts and getting the lay of the land, but now I'm ready to step 
> out of the shadows and introduce myself.
> I'm new to this group but not new to Rivendell. I'm the original owner of 
> a 1996 61cm grey-blue All-Rounder.
> I had basically stopped riding for about 15 years, but started up again 
> last August.
> I have had the A/R set up in multiple modes in the past, but currently it 
> is a fendered drop bar road/path machine with Rene Herse tires.
> I'm thinking of trying out some upright bars on it, but I had moustache 
> bars on it in the past but never really liked them. I probably never had 
> the right stem setup though.
> I'll include a few pics of my machine. It could use a repaint, 
> unfortunately most of it is garage wear.
>
> Jim in Minneapolis
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New member with old Riv

[ascpgh]

Welcome to the group Jim, and back to your bike!

In another discussion about handlebars I had an experience in pursuit of 
"best for me" bars that was similar to the Moustache bar dichotomy. I'm 
either short of torso for my height or long of leg for my torso...and I 
need a short reach. I can get that by an under square frame or by bodging 
my fit with short stems and short extension drop bars. In that conversation 
I noted the new crop of gravel-oriented bars feel very confining at two 
positions and too narrow on the hoods or tops. I had a chance to get an 
XO-1 and had a reality check about the bars on a ride (was a dealer) and  
getting a purple XO-2 with the WTB Dirt Drops instead. 

Grant talked me through options for an adventure road fit (in 2000) and 
extolled a frame that was in container, crossing the ocean with a 2° 
upsloped, undersquare top tube and 2cm extended head tube he designed for 
long rides and light loads with inspiration from French randonneuring. I've 
had that Rambouillet ever since. We can compare beausage later. Nothing 
grossly unkind, just a collection of two decades of moments. I earlier 
proposed "beausavage" to better represent the diary that my orange bike's 
finish represents.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6xqhzfdLmcqQWd1F7

I'll stay tuned to hear of your spring and summer riding in Minneapolis and 
otherwise. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 11:09:11 AM UTC-4, Jingy wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I just joined this group a few weeks ago and have just been sitting back 
> reading posts and getting the lay of the land, but now I'm ready to step 
> out of the shadows and introduce myself.
> I'm new to this group but not new to Rivendell. I'm the original owner of 
> a 1996 61cm grey-blue All-Rounder.
> I had basically stopped riding for about 15 years, but started up again 
> last August.
> I have had the A/R set up in multiple modes in the past, but currently it 
> is a fendered drop bar road/path machine with Rene Herse tires.
> I'm thinking of trying out some upright bars on it, but I had moustache 
> bars on it in the past but never really liked them. I probably never had 
> the right stem setup though.
> I'll include a few pics of my machine. It could use a repaint, 
> unfortunately most of it is garage wear.
>
> Jim in Minneapolis
>
>

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Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

[Andrew Erman]

Dear all,

First, I appreciate being part of this discussion group and reading your 
thoughts on one of the favorite parts of my life (bikes).

My psychology of riding has been heavily influenced by Grant’s Just Ride, that 
he gave me when I purchased my Roadini.  I started to feel less need to meet 
the “shoulds” in my mind - I should ride fast, I should get my heart rate up, I 
should have an aggressive riding posture, I should only go for a ride if it 
will be long enough, etc.

My belief about riding was further influence by the TED Talk How Bicycling 
Connects Us At the Speed of Discovery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDubr-RjlCE 


I shifted my speed expectation to 10 mph, give or take a couple miles - I 
started to notice more stuff - shapes of trees, garbage on the ground, and I 
started to make more contact with other people - pedestrians, bike riders, even 
people in vehicles.  

I still struggle with getting irritated by walkers, riders and drivers whose 
behaviors interfere with where I want to get and how fast I want to get there.  
When this happens, and if I am on top of my game, I let the movement of others 
and myself play out, like some kind of disorganized dance, and then I am on my 
way again, enjoying the turn of the cranks, my feet on the pedals, feeling the 
wind in my face, looking at all the stuff around me.

Best,

Andy



> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:02 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
> 
> We're far enough into this now that the end of pandemic, or at least 
> "opening"  is even a topic. I've sure had some collected thoughts. 
> 
> It's quiet. Air travel has clearly diminished to the point that I look up at 
> every plane that's on its long approach to the airport, 20 miles to the west. 
> Traffic is sparse and I can't help but see those out driving and wonder what 
> essential function they represent with their travel or if they don't care and 
> are just doing what they want. I'm amazed by the large numbers resoundingly 
> represented by the emptiness of the streets. 
> 
> Like other social norms, degrees of individual adoption of instructions and 
> information are visible. Being in healthcare I realize my professional 
> practice make me a critic of degrees of protective preparation for public 
> tasks if not to standard. The open display of waste using disposable PPE 
> incorrectly, without it having a chance of providing the benefit potential to 
> users who wear them, is maddening. Worse are those who appear to elevate PPE 
> like a spiritual protective icon and display such poor discipline in public 
> that they must believe in supernatural powers of their nitrile gloves, face 
> shield masks and (i'm not kidding) ponchos. People want to believe in 
> something and this situation has made it visible in public. Brand names or 
> branded items had been a way people differentiated themselves, now it seems 
> to be the procurement and display of PPE. 
> 
> I learned and used closed loop communication in critical moments in the 
> military and healthcare. It gives closure and verification that what you said 
> was heard, acknowledged, responded to in act and completed. It's ingrained 
> enough in me that I think the public health posture at all levels needs to 
> look at what they see on the street as their feedback because they won't see 
> much of their message being acknowledged intact. I hope the quiet majority 
> who are out of sight, at home, not touching things, not flaunting disposable 
> PPE but rather preserving them for the moments when its precious use is 
> necessary or using alternatives like bandannas suffice. Makes me think of 
> Hopi Kachina dolls that are given to those who will be respectful and care 
> for them responsibly. 
> 
> I ride my bike to and from work because it provides opportunity to connect 
> with the world while separating from both home and work while en route. Most 
> people at the end of a hard day have a little black cloud over their head 
> that goes right into their car with them to go home, little chance for 
> separation. I enjoy what the dark, the cold and the wet contribute to those 
> ends. Even more so these days. I have found a much more clear appreciation of 
> cycling these days and to my observation, so have many others. they are doing 
> it in pursuit of the act itself, in normal clothes, going places. The 
> performance riders in their kit and spacebikes seem to have reverted to 
> Peloton in their basements. 
> 
> We've "quarranteamed" with our young friend in her last semester of nursing 
> school. As the pandemic got foothold in the US and local actions were 
> imminent we reached out and invited to her to spend it with us at our house 
> for a number of practical and psychological reasons. It's been very helpful 
> for all of us to have a bit bigger table set for for meals and daily life. 
> She did insist on bringing her bike and we have been on many rides to 
> maintain perspective. 
> 

Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

[Andrew Erman]

Roberta,

I was reading a little about the safety value of the Tigr lock - some of what I 
read was not favorable.  I use my Tigr lock to secure my front wheel because I 
don’t want to be bothered with removing it for locking.  Good luck with this!

Andy

> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Andrew Erman  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Roberta!  That is very kind of you.  The Tigr sounds like it could 
> address your goal of lightening your bike.  I have played around with the 
> idea of putting another Tigr lock on my Clem and leaving the Albus at home 
> unless I need it to lock my bike and my wife’s together.  My Clem is a little 
> beat up so I am not so worried about my inefficient lock fiddling marring the 
> paint a bit.  You are inspiring me!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Andy
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Roberta > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ha, ha!
>> 
>> I also have an Arbus lock (2 actually), but I'm so afraid of getting my bike 
>> stolen.  I'm down 5 pounds since our self imposed internment, but it doesn't 
>> seem to want to budge from there.  Congrats on your accomplishment.
>> 
>> My issue is lifting the bike onto trains, buses, cars racks, carrying it up 
>> and down stairs, etc.  If I know I'll be doing that, I carry a backpack and 
>> put the locks and water into the backpack.  Voila, my bike just got 5 pound 
>> lighter!  Although still heavy for me.
>> 
>> I'm glad you're posting.  Welcome.
>> 
>> Roberta
>> 
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 8:21:57 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>> Roberta,
>> 
>> On the plus side, the Tigr lock is light.   I needed some practice to easily 
>> get the locking device off the lock and then to reinstall it - still working 
>> on that.  I have had a learning curve to get the lock thru my seat stays and 
>> spokes, and to do it in a way that I don’t bung up the paint.  I have the 
>> bigger version of the lock but it is not long so I have get my bike very 
>> close to the object to which I will lock my bike.  Therefore, I look for 
>> skinny things to lock my bike.  I have an Albus u-lock on my bike which is 
>> rated very well.  It is very easy to use but heavy.  I decided to lighten my 
>> bike by losing 19 pounds off my body.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Roberta > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>> That's a nice color combination.  I've been thinking about getting a banana 
>>> sax, but what color?  My Joe Appaloosa is the same color as your Clem, so I 
>>> think I'll borrow from you and get it in blue. As my current goal is 
>>> lightening my Joe A. I'll be getting one or two of the new tigr locks. how 
>>> do you like yours?
>>> 
>>> Paul,
>>> Those magnolias must be quite a sight when all in bloom.  I've seen the 
>>> magnolias around here bloom before the cherry blossoms.  I hope you can 
>>> share a pic with us next year.
>>> 
>>> Leah,
>>> You have a wonderful artistic eye.  Now I know where #theclemrider gets his 
>>> talent!
>>> 
>>> Everyone else, it rained all day here, so when it was just a slight drizzle 
>>> I went for a 3 mile walk when the wind took my umbrella not quite 1/2 way 
>>> in.  Oh, well, it's not raining "too" bad.  Well, that lasted about 10 
>>> minutes.  No problem, I thought, I'll jump on a trolley and then a subway.  
>>> What I didn't know was the subway is now on a "skip every other stop" 
>>> schedule.  Guess which stop wasn't mine!  So, instead of being let off 3 
>>> blocks from home, I was let off 3/4 of a mile away.  Not an issue until the 
>>> skies opened up!  I looked like a drowned rat when I walked in my front 
>>> door.  I wouldn't have gotten any exercise otherwise, so I guess it was a 
>>> good day.
>>> 
>>> Pic are from outside the bike store I visited yesterday, where his 
>>> specialty is fixing up old steel bikes for commuters, pretty planting, my 
>>> ex-umbrella.
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:28:36 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>>> Lovely ride thru W LA and Santa Monica on my Roadini.  Came home and 
>>> swapped bikes to my Clem to go to the grocery store.   Came home with 17.5 
>>> lb in front and 26 lb in back.  Great to be able to shop by bike.  Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:12 AM in Dallas nick > wrote:
>>> Great sunset pics Leah!
>>> 
>>> You ride in ruby slippers?
>>> You didn't perchance take them off a dead witch, did you?
>>> 
>>> Ha!
>>> 
>>> I love riding in non bike specific clothing and shoes.
>>> 
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>> 
>>> Paul in Dallas 
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[RBW] Friction Shifting 9-10s Question

[scott minor]

I’m running 1 x 10 friction on my Clem H with a clutch derailleur and wolftooth 
chainring (38t) and feel like it’s the quietest, smoothest shifting I’ve ever 
had.  I paid close attention to centering the chain line, and had to experiment 
w a couple BB’s before finding it.  Maybe that effort is what makes the 
difference, maybe it’s the clutch.  Either way, even w the longer Clem chain, I 
find it quieter and smoother than the 2x9 drivetrains on my other bikes.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1985 21" Bridgestone MB-2, XT/XTR build

[esoterica etc]

The MB-2 was sold this past weekend as a rolling chassis, so I still have the 
Jones loop bar cockpit for sale. I’ll create a new post for it with some pics 
soon. Thanks for all the kudos and inquiries. 

~Mark 

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[RBW] Friction Shifting 9-10s Question

[Fullylugged]

Friction shifting lets me swap wheel sets around like nobody's business as I 
have 6, 8 and 9 speed set ups among 4 bikes.  I find wen I am very tired, that 
my lever control is less precise and I am more likely to ghost shift. I have a 
quick talk with myself and then get the chain properly seated in whatever gear 
is needed. It seems to happen less on my DT shifting bikes than bar enders.

Bruce

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[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?

[ascpgh]

We're far enough into this now that the end of pandemic, or at least 
"opening"  is even a topic. I've sure had some collected thoughts. 

It's quiet. Air travel has clearly diminished to the point that I look up 
at every plane that's on its long approach to the airport, 20 miles to the 
west. Traffic is sparse and I can't help but see those out driving and 
wonder what essential function they represent with their travel or if they 
don't care and are just doing what they want. I'm amazed by the large 
numbers resoundingly represented by the emptiness of the streets. 

Like other social norms, degrees of individual adoption of instructions and 
information are visible. Being in healthcare I realize my professional 
practice make me a critic of degrees of protective preparation for public 
tasks if not to standard. The open display of waste using disposable PPE 
incorrectly, without it having a chance of providing the benefit potential 
to users who wear them, is maddening. Worse are those who appear to elevate 
PPE like a spiritual protective icon and display such poor discipline in 
public that they must believe in supernatural powers of their nitrile 
gloves, face shield masks and (i'm not kidding) ponchos. People want to 
believe in something and this situation has made it visible in public. 
Brand names or branded items had been a way people differentiated 
themselves, now it seems to be the procurement and display of PPE. 

I learned and used closed loop communication in critical moments in the 
military and healthcare. It gives closure and verification that what you 
said was heard, acknowledged, responded to in act and completed. It's 
ingrained enough in me that I think the public health posture at all levels 
needs to look at what they see on the street as their feedback because they 
won't see much of their message being acknowledged intact. I hope the quiet 
majority who are out of sight, at home, not touching things, not flaunting 
disposable PPE but rather preserving them for the moments when its precious 
use is necessary or using alternatives like bandannas suffice. Makes me 
think of Hopi Kachina dolls that are given to those who will be respectful 
and care for them responsibly. 

I ride my bike to and from work because it provides opportunity to connect 
with the world while separating from both home and work while en route. 
Most people at the end of a hard day have a little black cloud over their 
head that goes right into their car with them to go home, little chance for 
separation. I enjoy what the dark, the cold and the wet contribute to those 
ends. Even more so these days. I have found a much more clear appreciation 
of cycling these days and to my observation, so have many others. they are 
doing it in pursuit of the act itself, in normal clothes, going places. The 
performance riders in their kit and spacebikes seem to have reverted to 
Peloton in their basements. 

We've "quarranteamed" with our young friend in her last semester of nursing 
school. As the pandemic got foothold in the US and local actions were 
imminent we reached out and invited to her to spend it with us at our house 
for a number of practical and psychological reasons. It's been very helpful 
for all of us to have a bit bigger table set for for meals and daily life. 
She did insist on bringing her bike and we have been on many rides to 
maintain perspective. 

I have had a lot of thoughts on cycling for myself these weeks and I hope 
as things resolve and open up I'll be able to realize them, with great 
value. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh





On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 7:20:52 PM UTC-4, aeroperf wrote:
>
>
> It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear 
> about what you’ve learned that’s new to you.
>
> I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed.   The bike trail, being 
> rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills).  So for five years I’ve 
> been cranking away in relatively straight lines.
>
> Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how 
> to take corners at speed without pedal strikes.
> My 2015 Sam had no problem.  My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to 
> either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” 
> coast through it.  They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably 
> both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put 
> me lower.  And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting 
> in tight quarters for me.
>
> So what have you learned?  Riding Zwift is fun?  Riding solo is no fun?  
> Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

[masmojo]

Paul, yes! I do a Katy Trail loop, very similar to the one you describe. You 
must live pretty close to me here in North Dallas.
I would say that my standard South Loop. Crossing 635 @ the Skillman DART 
Station footbridge, head down the Skillman Sidewalk to around Abrams, up to the 
So Pac trail, across to Mockingbird Station,  Katy Trail, etc. That's 24 to 32 
miles depending. Sometimes I cut across to Hillcrest/Forest, run down Bodecker 
to SMU, but I  dislike the part along Northpark mall, generally too many HP 
Soccer Moms.
I have been trying to use the North Haven Trail more & more, they've got it all 
the way past Marsh now and I believe they are going to link it up with a series 
of trails that goes all the way to Fort Worth.

I am planning on driving up & riding the NETT in East Texas fairly soon. 

I am afraid 40 miles is about my limit, my knees are crap.

I am Already over 300 for the month, if not for the rain, I'd probably be 400. 
Unfortunately if I am over 300 it's mearly an exhibition of irresponsibility 
and a sign I should be thinking about doing something productive. 
Leah, I sure no one here tires of your smiling face (or Clem), better that then 
my big melon head! 浪

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[RBW] Re: Gus Susie Questions

[Garth]

For those that need a 73 x 127 ST BB the Tange LN-3922(steel cups) and 
LN-7922(Aluminum cups) are also available. 

Those widths are because of the relatively straight arms of the crank. It's 
gotta make for some cruddy chain angles in the middle ring/large cogs 
though. This is where the so called advance from 7 speed hubs to 8/9/10 
went off that rails a bit as far I'm concerned as the smallest cog moved 
toward the centerline and the chaninrings moved further out. Anyone with a 
lick of intelligence can see that's ass-backwards. 

Then again  ... I find myself laughing at all of this ! For all the 
"progress/regress" in the world if you really detach yourself from the 
train-of-thoughts-link-ing  the whole ch'bang is Eternity's game of 
Self-hide-and-Self-seek  "Peek-boo-where-are-You ? .. 
Peek-a-boo-now-I-see-You !" . to "play stupid/deaf/dumb/blind". 
Literally utterly dis-able yourself " for awhile" so you can "magically 
re-member" just how Infinitely cap-able you truly are... which is limitless 
 boundless Infinity's Infinitely Infinite Self.   The Gem so sought 
"in a dream of separation" is no one but the One and Only Self ye all -ways 
Be.   

>From *Alice in Wonderland*  heeheehee    

*“He's dreaming now,' said Tweedledee: 'and what do you think he's dreaming 
about?'*
*Alice said 'Nobody can guess that.''Why, about YOU!' Tweedledee exclaimed, 
clapping his hands triumphantly. 'And if he left off dreaming about you, 
where do you suppose you'd be?''Where I am now, of course,' said Alice.'Not 
you!' Tweedledee retorted contemptuously. 'You'd be nowhere. Why, you're 
only a sort of thing in his dream!''If that there King was to wake,' added 
Tweedledum, 'you'd go out—bang!—just like a candle!”*

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[RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

[Nathan Mattia]

Dean, great picture!  Those are some good-looking Riv-Riders there! 
 Paragons of fashion and style, every one!

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