[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur for Riv Silver 34/24 cranks?

[Joe Bernard]

Oh, I missed an important  data point. I'm using a 10-speed fd with a 
9-speed chain, which is as much as you can fudge that. A 7/8-speed chain 
would be way too wide. 

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 10:07:07 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes, what Doug is saying. I think you're trying too hard to get the fd 
> down close to what your eyes say is the big ring, but the ring is in the 
> middle position on that crank. I have a 36/24 crank with a bigger 
> chainguard in the outer position, and a Deore XT double similar to your fd 
> resting above that big guard. It works fine this way, I think your derailer 
> needs to slide up to meet an imaginary big ring or guard. 
>
> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 9:47:57 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> Rivendell must have an answer.  I recall hearing that the ideal gap from 
>> the outer cage plate to the big ring should be 2 mm (1/8") but that may be 
>> an ideal, not a hard'n'fast requirement.  
>>
>> On my Atlantis, I have a 24/34/44 triple & 11-36 9 speed with a Shimano 
>> Deore (no other ID on it; nothing special) FD.  With the FD clearing the 
>> chainstay by a whisker, there's a good 1/4" gap from the outer cage to the 
>> 44 ring.  So on the 34, the outer cage plate has to have a huge gap to the 
>> 34 chainring.  I rarely use the 44, so it's pretty much 34 for 99% of the 
>> time & I can get all 9 cogs without fussing.  On the rare occasion I need 
>> the 24, everything seems to work fine; no dropped chains or overshifting on 
>> the upshift. All flat rings, no ramps'n'pins.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 8:56:06 PM UTC-7, Justin Wyne wrote:
>>>
>>> As much as I love the looks of this crankset, I feel like it should come 
>>> with a disclaimer of "good luck finding a front derailleur that'll work". 
>>> Does anyone else have this crankset, if so what front derailleur are you 
>>> using? The previous 2 I've tried can't get low enough to the big ring to 
>>> call it a safe distance before hitting the cage on the chainstay. Most 
>>> recent failure being the Shimano fdm618 low that although can be mounted 
>>> low enough, just cant seem to get properly adjusted enough to allow even a 
>>> millimeter of quiet non chain rub which requires constant trimming. I'm 
>>> running 2x7.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur for Riv Silver 34/24 cranks?

[dougP]

Rivendell must have an answer.  I recall hearing that the ideal gap from 
the outer cage plate to the big ring should be 2 mm (1/8") but that may be 
an ideal, not a hard'n'fast requirement.  

On my Atlantis, I have a 24/34/44 triple & 11-36 9 speed with a Shimano 
Deore (no other ID on it; nothing special) FD.  With the FD clearing the 
chainstay by a whisker, there's a good 1/4" gap from the outer cage to the 
44 ring.  So on the 34, the outer cage plate has to have a huge gap to the 
34 chainring.  I rarely use the 44, so it's pretty much 34 for 99% of the 
time & I can get all 9 cogs without fussing.  On the rare occasion I need 
the 24, everything seems to work fine; no dropped chains or overshifting on 
the upshift. All flat rings, no ramps'n'pins.

dougP


On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 8:56:06 PM UTC-7, Justin Wyne wrote:
>
> As much as I love the looks of this crankset, I feel like it should come 
> with a disclaimer of "good luck finding a front derailleur that'll work". 
> Does anyone else have this crankset, if so what front derailleur are you 
> using? The previous 2 I've tried can't get low enough to the big ring to 
> call it a safe distance before hitting the cage on the chainstay. Most 
> recent failure being the Shimano fdm618 low that although can be mounted 
> low enough, just cant seem to get properly adjusted enough to allow even a 
> millimeter of quiet non chain rub which requires constant trimming. I'm 
> running 2x7.

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Re: [RBW] Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

[Bill Schairer]

I got pulled over with siren and lights in St Louis County while commuting 
to work. I was riding on a frontage road that had a nice downhill ramp onto 
a state highway (not freeway).  The cop had somebody pulled over on the 
shoulder of the ramp and I blew by pretty fast, for a bike, and must have 
surprised him.  Shortly thereafter I heard the siren and pulled over 
expecting him to go by but he was pulling me over!?  He claimed it was 
illegal for me to be on that ramp (I can’t remember, it may have been 
shared with a ramp off the freeway) which was nonsense - I rode it every 
day.  Anyway, he did not cite me.

Bill S

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 7:05:44 PM UTC-7 Je Mar wrote:

> I was stopped once for blowing a stop sign in a wealthy “hills“ 
> neighborhood of Alexandria, Virginia. I was pretty peeved even though I was 
> “only” given a warning. 
>
> I stop at stop signs now, at least sufficiently to avoid another situation 
> like that. 
>
> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 9:47:09 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>
>> Perfect.  
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 8:28 PM Fullylugged  wrote:
>>
>>> Not pulled over, but a deputy pulled along side after I rolled through 
>>> one of those 8 sided signs you see at intersections and said, "You know 
>>> those STOP signs are for you too."  I said, "yes officer thank you for 
>>> reminding me." He waved and sped off.
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Platform bike racks, again

[Lucky]

So far my number one choice is the 1UP. it looks like it grabs the front 
wheel forward enough to not hit my front racks. The biggest front rack I 
have is the Pelago rack. It's quite expensive but looks like a lifetime 
piece of kit. Also seems to be sturdy enough to carry four heavier bikes, 
that's my only concern on a rack like the Swagman, for example that has the 
racheting hook that grabs the top tube, is that it can't hold the weight of 
four heavy bikes. My 12 year old is riding a 22" mountain bike frame 
already, so large bike are many years in my future. 

I thought the North Shore looked cool but I don't think the "hooks around 
the headtube" method will work with my basketed bikes. 

That said, I'm interested in hearing others' experience. 

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 5:47:10 PM UTC-7 Jingy wrote:

> I'm kind of in the same boat. 
> I need to carry 3-4 bikes, my wife's Specialized ebike with front basket 
> and  fenders, my 64cm Clem L with a 52.5 wheelbase, front basket, rear rack 
> and fenders, and a older Bianchi 700c step through hybrid with fenders.
> Other times I'll need to fit my 26" wheel All-rounder with fenders, Surly 
> Pugsley with fenders or my nice steel road bike on it.
> Looking at various racks, many of them don't work with fenders.
> The Saris MTR seems like it will work and they claim its fender 
> compatible, but in reading the reviews there seems to be some QC issues.  
> and I don't know if the racks and baskets will cause problems.
>
> Jim in Mpls
>
>
>
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[RBW] Front Derailleur for Riv Silver 34/24 cranks?

[Justin Wyne]

As much as I love the looks of this crankset, I feel like it should come 
with a disclaimer of "good luck finding a front derailleur that'll work". 
Does anyone else have this crankset, if so what front derailleur are you 
using? The previous 2 I've tried can't get low enough to the big ring to 
call it a safe distance before hitting the cage on the chainstay. Most 
recent failure being the Shimano fdm618 low that although can be mounted 
low enough, just cant seem to get properly adjusted enough to allow even a 
millimeter of quiet non chain rub which requires constant trimming. I'm 
running 2x7.

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Re: [RBW] Baby Bosco Bars!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Mark - very clever. Ha! 

Corwin - yes, he didn’t know how good he could have it - these bars are WAY 
more ergonomic than his flat bars on his little Specialized. 

Dorothy - thanks! I think they look pretty good. I worried maybe they would be 
too narrow, but now they just look right.

This morning my son said, “Who wants to go on a Clem ride?” We went 4.5 miles 
up and down the hills here and had a great time. The bike is admittedly a bit 
big, but he is navigating that just fine. Still doesn’t want his 
basket/bags/bells moved over yet. He’s afraid to take Killer Hill on the Clem. 
Loyal to the old Specialized.

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[RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

[Daniel M]

I believe Grant is also working on a V-brake and I will certainly buy a set the 
moment they become available. 

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

['Je Mar' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I was stopped once for blowing a stop sign in a wealthy “hills“ 
neighborhood of Alexandria, Virginia. I was pretty peeved even though I was 
“only” given a warning. 

I stop at stop signs now, at least sufficiently to avoid another situation 
like that. 

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 9:47:09 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:

> Perfect.  
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 8:28 PM Fullylugged  wrote:
>
>> Not pulled over, but a deputy pulled along side after I rolled through 
>> one of those 8 sided signs you see at intersections and said, "You know 
>> those STOP signs are for you too."  I said, "yes officer thank you for 
>> reminding me." He waved and sped off.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

[Joel Stern]

Perfect.


On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 8:28 PM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> Not pulled over, but a deputy pulled along side after I rolled through one
> of those 8 sided signs you see at intersections and said, "You know those
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> me." He waved and sped off.
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[RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Jingy]

You need to cover up the graphix so they don't know it's such a desirable 
collector bike!

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 5:49:57 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent acquisition: 
> a '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've seen, which I 
> dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical need for, so I 
> recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the clout but it does 
> have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without the excessively 
> bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make a great 
> all-rounder and commuter for me. 
>
> Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt for 
> what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to have 
> the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on the 
> Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!
>
> It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the 
> upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 
>
> ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally 
> the bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple 
> hours! 
>
> [image: IMG_20200912_143317.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Platform bike racks, again

[Jingy]

I'm kind of in the same boat. 
I need to carry 3-4 bikes, my wife's Specialized ebike with front basket 
and  fenders, my 64cm Clem L with a 52.5 wheelbase, front basket, rear rack 
and fenders, and a older Bianchi 700c step through hybrid with fenders.
Other times I'll need to fit my 26" wheel All-rounder with fenders, Surly 
Pugsley with fenders or my nice steel road bike on it.
Looking at various racks, many of them don't work with fenders.
The Saris MTR seems like it will work and they claim its fender compatible, 
but in reading the reviews there seems to be some QC issues.  and I don't 
know if the racks and baskets will cause problems.

Jim in Mpls



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[RBW] Be still my beating heart, a new 8 speed group.

[Fullylugged]

I've used Microshift twice now to convert flat bar hybrids to drop bar road 
style. A lot of value for the price and they work well.

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[RBW] Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

[Fullylugged]

Not pulled over, but a deputy pulled along side after I rolled through one of 
those 8 sided signs you see at intersections and said, "You know those STOP 
signs are for you too."  I said, "yes officer thank you for reminding me." He 
waved and sped off.

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet as Tourer

[Mike Godwin]

Thanks Rich

I remember the front title when i used to get the RR in the mail.

Mike SLO CA

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 1:58:41 PM UTC-7, RichS wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Take a look at Riv Reader 25 , pages 42-43. An excellent demonstration of 
> a lightweight touring setup on a Ram.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 5:49:00 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Howdy, looking through the archives about using a Rambouillet as a 
>> touring machine. I toured along the spine of the Cascades and Sierra on a 
>> Specialized Sequoia, and along Highway 1 SF to LA.  The Rambouillet seems a 
>> bit more stout than the Sequoia.  Most of the old touring related posts 
>> here are from 2012 - 2014.  Any new news about tours folks have done on 
>> their Rambouillets?  What pannier arrangements did you use? Self-supported, 
>> road surface? 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Your lockable commuter thread

[Sky Coulter]

Looks pretty sweet!

Sky in new west



> On Sep 12, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent acquisition: a 
> '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've seen, which I 
> dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical need for, so I 
> recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the clout but it does 
> have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without the excessively 
> bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make a great 
> all-rounder and commuter for me. 
> 
> Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt for 
> what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to have 
> the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on the 
> Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!
> 
> It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the 
> upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 
> 
> ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally the 
> bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple hours! 
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Platform bike racks, again

[Jan O.]

I use a 1UP USA 2″ Super Duty Double Rack and it works really well with my 
Atlantis and Nitto 32F front rack/Wald 137 basket. You can increase the 
capacity to up to 4 bikes.

https://www.1up-usa.com/product/2in-super-duty-double-bike-rack/

Jan
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

[Joel]

I was out today riding one of my usual routes. I had just gotten back on 
the bike (my Bleriot) after stopping to adjust the angle of my Albatross 
bars. I was pedaling and all of a sudden out of my mirror I saw some lights 
flashing and I pulled over. I got off the bike as a very young officer 
walked over to me. I asked him if I had done something wrong, maybe riding 
to fast (yeah I know being a wiseass is not really a good things). He asked 
me if I had just come from a street which was one I was actually heading 
towards.. I told him no and explained where I had ridden. It seems some guy 
asked a lady for directions, there mush have been more to it, he was on a 
bike, and I fit the description I was told. I was wearing  a short sleeve 
gray sweat shirts as it was an unusually chilly day today and a Rivendell 
cycling cap from years ago. Another officer arrived smiling, he was the 
officer in charge. I put up my hands and said it wasn't me and he started 
to laugh.He explained to me they were looking for a guy in a gray members 
only jacket and a baseball cap with dark hair, my hair is silver/white.

We talked for a few minutes, they apologized and I said no need. I went 
back on my ride and now was on that street wondering if a woman would come 
out of her house chasing me.  

In a way I had a good laugh but I wonder what this guy did to make this 
woman call the police. This was not my town but 2 towns away in CT while I 
live in MA. So something was up.

So I wonder if any of you have ever been pulled over on your bike?

Joel

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[RBW] Re: Places to Sell non-Riv Bikes

[Jason D]

How cool!! Now you can get another Riv haha

On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 4:03:12 PM UTC-4 Litho wrote:

> Wondering if anyone has recommendations on where to sell 
> non-Rivendell-related bikes.  I've sold bikes on local Craigslist before, 
> but am interested in posting a bike I am looking to sell in multiple 
> places.  Any experiences with eBay or other sites?  Recommendations?  
>
> For the record, I'm making a final conversion to the cult and am selling 
> off my beautiful, dual suspension mtn bike.  I haven't touched it in three 
> years since I set up my first Riv for trail riding and want to offload it 
> to fund the purchase of another Rivendell.  :)  
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[RBW] Riv. Camping trip, NYC, seeking route advice

[lambbo]

Hi all, I'm hoping to do a two night camping trip the weekend after next with a 
friend, on my Cheviot, leaving from NYC... Originally thought Harriman night 
one, Fahenstock night two, and home, but just wondering if there's a more 
interesting itinerary, either one way with the train home or round trip.   I 
think we have 60 mile days in us, give or take. 
Would appreciate any tips, thanks!!
A

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[RBW] Re: Places to Sell non-Riv Bikes

[Litho]

Thank you for the suggestions, everyone.  

I sold the bike this morning from my initial Craigslist posting.  I wasn't 
expecting it to move that quickly based on past experience.  The person I 
ended up selling it to turned out to be a friend from high school who I 
hadn't talked to almost thirty years.  We sent several emails back and 
forth through Craigslist before we realized we knew each other.  The Bay 
Area is like a small town, I swear.  

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[RBW] Re: Platform bike racks, again

[Jason Fuller]

This is what I have (well - I have the two bike version, but same idea) and 
it works great because you can adjust each bike side to side as needed to 
avoid interferences, and the wheels just sit in the hoops and the hook 
cinches down on the top tube - and it works on step thru bikes too (used 
with a dutch style bike, no issues).  So no problem for baskets, fenders, 
and the like. 

https://www.tdotperformance.ca/swagman-64665-xtc-4-bike-platform-hitch-mounted-bike-rack-for-2-receiver.html?utm_source=google_shopping=CjwKCAjw4_H6BRALEiwAvgfzq6soNk-Y1LrzvKt3BcGlgdHKN2iDHW0Hh_TE6YC8vwgy4aFTfMeyvBoC6DUQAvD_BwE

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[RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

[Jason Fuller]

>From an engineering perspective, I was meh on the new canti brake design, 
to be honest.  The arms are hollowed in the direction that reduces 
stiffness during braking forces, and the fact the allen end is blocked by 
the canti arm would probably annoy me in use. Not that it's a bad looking 
brake but there's plenty of great canti brakes out there already at the 
full range of price points! 

Seems way more useful to put energy into a nice, classy but unique v-brake 
IMO!  But Grant's gonna be Grant and I love that about him. 

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Re: [RBW] Baby Bosco Bars!

[Dorothy C]

>From your latest IG pic, the Baby Bosco looks nicely proportioned to the 
small Clem

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 1:10:54 PM UTC-7 Corwin wrote:

> Personally, I think it's a good idea to introduce variety into stuff like 
> bikes for kids. If the kid likes the change (say handlebars for example) he 
> or she may have found a good fit. If he or she does not like the change - 
> they will much better appreciate when they find a good fit.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Corwin
>
> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 9:30:10 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Dorothy, I suspect you’re right - those Wavie bars a probably a good 
>> choice. Alas, I’m done messing around with bar and stem setups so this kid 
>> is going to have to live with Boscos, ha! Kids can get used to anything, 
>> right? 
>>
>> This is also where I admit that I have rolled my eyes at those who change 
>> around their loved ones’ bikes without the loved ones’ endorsements...I am 
>> now just as guilty.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>>
>> Might the Wavie bar work? Riv say it works for someone used to a flat 
>> bar but comes back more. If it is too wide it could be trimmed. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 8:05:45 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad 
>>>
>>> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne 64cm in Petaluma, CA

[Jack Barnes]

650b San Marcos in Seattle, no affiliation:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-soma-san-marcos-54cm/7192001694.html

On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:43:57 PM UTC-7, Kevin D norcal - santa 
rosa wrote:
>
> Sam Hillborne 64cm in Petaluma, CA
>  
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-sam-hillborne-64cm/7194452111.html
>
>
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[RBW] Platform bike racks, again

[Lucky]

I've read a few of the conversations about best platform rack for hitch, 
but to be honest, my head is spinning! Just when I think I have narrowed 
down what to get, I run into another issue with the rack for one reason or 
another. 

SO, who is using *which* platform rear rack for bikes with front racks and 
baskets? I was just about to buy the Thule rack and then it occurred to me 
that the hook over the wheel might not work with my bikes, all but my son's 
have a front rack and basket. 

The One Up looks nice? 

I need to carry four bikes on the back as I can no longer lift them to the 
rooftop. And don't want to scratch up my nice Riv and Riv-adjacents. 

Thanks for any advice! 

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[RBW] Re: FS Shimano SL M8000 XT 11 speed right shifter

[Bruce Smitham]

Shifter is sold

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:51 AM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> Shimano SL M8000 XT 11 speed right shifter in great condition. Some thumb 
> wear on the color. $35 plus $7 for shipping conus or free local pick up. 
> Thanks, Bruce in San Diego
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Re: [RBW] Baby Bosco Bars!

[Corwin]

Personally, I think it's a good idea to introduce variety into stuff like 
bikes for kids. If the kid likes the change (say handlebars for example) he 
or she may have found a good fit. If he or she does not like the change - 
they will much better appreciate when they find a good fit.

Namaste,

Corwin

On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 9:30:10 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Yes, Dorothy, I suspect you’re right - those Wavie bars a probably a good 
> choice. Alas, I’m done messing around with bar and stem setups so this kid 
> is going to have to live with Boscos, ha! Kids can get used to anything, 
> right? 
>
> This is also where I admit that I have rolled my eyes at those who change 
> around their loved ones’ bikes without the loved ones’ endorsements...I am 
> now just as guilty.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 11, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>
> Might the Wavie bar work? Riv say it works for someone used to a flat bar 
> but comes back more. If it is too wide it could be trimmed. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 8:05:45 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad 
>>
>> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
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[RBW] WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm Frameset

[Jan O.]

Looking for a 58cm Hunqapillar frameset. If anyone is looking to sell, 
please email me at: jan(dot)ottenhof (at) gmail.com


Thank you.


Jan

San Francisco, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailleur to shift 10-speed close-ratio cassette with Bar Cons

[Bill Schairer]

Patrick,

I was running a 9sp 12-25 cassette with a Suntour Superbe Pro short cage 
and a 46/38/28 with down tube shifters and the derailleur is well named. 
 To my amazement I could run the entire cassette on each chainring with 
only the slightest sag small/small though in practice I don’t do that. 
 This appears to be way outside spec.

I then swapped wheels and crank and am now running a 14-28 7 sp freewheel 
with a 50/45/26 crank.  It does not like the 26/28 combo and doesn’t wrap 
enough chain in general on the 26t ring but is rideable. I will probably 
swap out the 26 for a 28 or a 30.

I am super pleased with the Superbe.  Though I haven’t ridden it with 10sp 
or barcons I have no reason to believe it wouldn’t be wonderful with both. 
 Since mounting it only recently I read on Disraeli Gears that some 
consider this derailleur to be the best shifting friction derailleur of all 
time.  I don’t have nearly enough experience to make such a claim myself 
but can well imagine it might be true.

Bill S

On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 10:33:40 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> More good news, then; thanks.
>
> I'm going to look for a medium cage rd to replace the old Dura Ace, which 
> I chose for "style" -- tho' it used to work well. But I really should have 
> a bit more chain takeup for the 42/28 chainset.
>
> Just talked to LBS who say that they straightened the hangar and the rd 
> still rubs, but it looks as if the rd itself is bent. We'll see.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:43 AM Ted Durant  wrote:
>
>> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 11:26:50 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> This is good to know; thanks. So basically, anything up to 10 speed but 
>>> forget 11 or 12. 
>>>
>>
>> I show 21.5 and 22.7mm of cable travel for Shimano 11-speed road and 
>> mountain, respectively, so it should still work. I don't have a number for 
>> 12-speed. Based on a quick online search, it appears the 12-speed Shimano 
>> is the same total derailleur movement as 11-speed mountain, so that should 
>> work, too. But that's probably going to make full use of the BarCon travel. 
>> In theory. And you know what they say about theory and practice ...
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Simpleone (58 cm) with Rohloff Speedhub

[Steve Cole]

Please email at Cole dot are at gmail with questions or expressions of 
interest.  Thanks



On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 1:26:55 PM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> I am selling my wonderful RBW Simpleone that Cycle Monkey converted for me 
> from a single speed bicycle to a Rohloff Speedhub driven bike with 14 
> spaced separated gears.  I had seen that Cycle Monkey had made a similar 
> conversion for another Simpleone owner.  Since I first learned of Rohloff, 
> I was fascinated by the Speedhub.  It’s truly a marvel of German 
> engineering: https://www.rohloff.de/en/.  I knew that world tourers 
> commonly ride bikes with Speedhubs because they are bullet-proof.  I had 
> always had as a cycling goal to ride the Great Allegheny Passage/C Canal 
> paths for years, which seemed like a perfect reason to convert my 
> Simpleone.  I did, I rode, I had an amazing time, I never looked back.  
>
>  
>
> I’m probably not going on another long tour again soon, if ever.  The 
> GAP/C were about 350 miles and it took me a year and a half to 
> prepare.  Day rides and S24Os are now my main cycling pleasures so I’m 
> offering up my Rohloff Simpleone. 
>
>  
>
> Here’s a Rivendell Blug link about the Simpleone: 
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/2349569449/simpleone-update-december-17-2010
>
>  
>
> Here’s a Cycle Monky link about the conversion:  
> https://www.cyclemonkey.com/blog/rohloff-equipped-rivendell-simpleone
>
>  
>
> My Simpleone is in near perfect condition.  You can find several photos 
> here: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13V_EPZ_RttiEHXfQsV7iib51JaOx7jLn?usp=sharing.
>   I 
> include a couple of photos that show some nicks but, really, nothing is 
> hidden.  The bike is fitted out with high-end components which are 
> reflected in the price.  I will consider any reasonable offer.  Here’s the 
> build:
>
>  
>
> Frame: 58cm Rivendell Simpleone
>
> Drive: Silver Rohloff Speedhub with preferred external gear mechanism, 
> Giles Berthoud 
>
> shifter and threaded axle
>
> Bottom Bracket: Rivendell standard, likely a Shimano UN55
>
> Handlebars: Nitto Albatross Alloy with leather Brooks knockoff grips 
> (Origin8) and Brooks 
>
> leather tape
>
> Brakes/Levers: Paul Components Touring Cantilevers with Pau Componentsl 
> Canti Lever Levers
>
> Stem: Nitto Technomic 100mm
>
> Headset: Standard Rivendell, likely FSA
>
> Seatpost: Nitto S83, two-bolt
>
> Hubs: rear-Rohloff Speedhub; front-Shutter Precision SV-8 Dynamo Hub
>
> Lights: rear-B Secula; front-B+M Eyc T Senso
>
> Wheels: rims-700c Velocity Dyad; tires-Compass (Rene Herse) Barlow Pass 
> 700cx38 standard, 
>
> gumwall; butted spokes, fenders-Velo Orange Snakeskin
>
> Rack: front-Nitto M12
>
>  
>
> Asking Price: $2,250, saddle excluded but shipping included
>

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Simpleone (58 cm) with Rohloff Speedhub

[Steve Cole]

I am selling my wonderful RBW Simpleone that Cycle Monkey converted for me 
from a single speed bicycle to a Rohloff Speedhub driven bike with 14 
spaced separated gears.  I had seen that Cycle Monkey had made a similar 
conversion for another Simpleone owner.  Since I first learned of Rohloff, 
I was fascinated by the Speedhub.  It’s truly a marvel of German 
engineering: https://www.rohloff.de/en/.  I knew that world tourers 
commonly ride bikes with Speedhubs because they are bullet-proof.  I had 
always had as a cycling goal to ride the Great Allegheny Passage/C Canal 
paths for years, which seemed like a perfect reason to convert my 
Simpleone.  I did, I rode, I had an amazing time, I never looked back.  

 

I’m probably not going on another long tour again soon, if ever.  The 
GAP/C were about 350 miles and it took me a year and a half to 
prepare.  Day rides and S24Os are now my main cycling pleasures so I’m 
offering up my Rohloff Simpleone. 

 

Here’s a Rivendell Blug link about the Simpleone: 
https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/2349569449/simpleone-update-december-17-2010

 

Here’s a Cycle Monky link about the conversion:  
https://www.cyclemonkey.com/blog/rohloff-equipped-rivendell-simpleone

 

My Simpleone is in near perfect condition.  You can find several photos 
here: 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13V_EPZ_RttiEHXfQsV7iib51JaOx7jLn?usp=sharing.
  I 
include a couple of photos that show some nicks but, really, nothing is 
hidden.  The bike is fitted out with high-end components which are 
reflected in the price.  I will consider any reasonable offer.  Here’s the 
build:

 

Frame: 58cm Rivendell Simpleone

Drive: Silver Rohloff Speedhub with preferred external gear mechanism, 
Giles Berthoud 

shifter and threaded axle

Bottom Bracket: Rivendell standard, likely a Shimano UN55

Handlebars: Nitto Albatross Alloy with leather Brooks knockoff grips 
(Origin8) and Brooks 

leather tape

Brakes/Levers: Paul Components Touring Cantilevers with Pau Componentsl 
Canti Lever Levers

Stem: Nitto Technomic 100mm

Headset: Standard Rivendell, likely FSA

Seatpost: Nitto S83, two-bolt

Hubs: rear-Rohloff Speedhub; front-Shutter Precision SV-8 Dynamo Hub

Lights: rear-B Secula; front-B+M Eyc T Senso

Wheels: rims-700c Velocity Dyad; tires-Compass (Rene Herse) Barlow Pass 
700cx38 standard, 

gumwall; butted spokes, fenders-Velo Orange Snakeskin

Rack: front-Nitto M12

 

Asking Price: $2,250, saddle excluded but shipping included

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[RBW] WTB Clem H 45cm. Green or Grilver.

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Hi Alex, Rivendell has a good deal on a 45 Grilver Clem H here: 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-frames/products/clem-smith-jr-h-frameset

I love the grilver. One of the best Clem colors ever.

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[RBW] Re: Tech question about shifter and brake cables and WTB

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I've got drop bar sized Paul thumby mounts that fit the 26.0 bar 
sleeve/bulge or Shimano bar end mounts. What I don't have are any indexing 
shifters I want to free up. I've got some friction options though... 
-Kai

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-4 markt...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> In the vein of there are no stupid questions: My son recently bought a new 
> Handsome Cycles Devil and is thinking about switching from flat to drop 
> bars. He's wondering if he'll need new brake and shifter cables.  I told 
> him that I thought he'd probably need new cables for both since he'll be 
> switching to new brake levers and a new rear shifter. But I don't really 
> know.(It's an 8-speed bike.)
>
> In the Wanting to Buy department, does anyone have a surplus pair of 
> shifters suitable for drop bars? Also, looking for bar end shifters.
>
> My son lives in Brooklyn, so if any of you are somewhat local to him, that 
> would be ideal.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mark Taintor
> Chanhassen, MN
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Tech question about shifter and brake cables and WTB

[Ben Mihovk]

Hey! I'm not an expert at all, but I did successfully swap out bars and 
change out a trigger index shifter for a friction thumbie this summer. My 
answer would be that yes, it would be a good idea to get new cables and 
housings for the drop setup. The incidentals kits that Riv sells are great, 
btw. Could I have reused the shifter cable? Maybe...the issue, though, is 
that even a VERY clean snip of a cable could have a frayed wire...a frayed 
wire will not pass through a housing when it comes time to set up the 
brakes and shifters. I actually REALLY screwed up with my first attempt 
(wrong cable pass under the BB) and had already snipped and capped the end 
of the derailer cable)...so I had to pull it back out and redo it...capping 
the cable caused it to fray a little, so I I trimmed it again to get a 
clean cut, crossed my fingers and held my breath, and re-routed the cable 
through the shifter, front end housing, and through the derailer housing 
and it thankfully worked. 

The bigger issue is he might need more cable in a drops setup than in his 
current setup...and that calls for a new cable. 

I'm rambling...but I just think it's better to have a fresh cable that will 
definitely be long enough.

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-5 markt...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> In the vein of there are no stupid questions: My son recently bought a new 
> Handsome Cycles Devil and is thinking about switching from flat to drop 
> bars. He's wondering if he'll need new brake and shifter cables.  I told 
> him that I thought he'd probably need new cables for both since he'll be 
> switching to new brake levers and a new rear shifter. But I don't really 
> know.(It's an 8-speed bike.)
>
> In the Wanting to Buy department, does anyone have a surplus pair of 
> shifters suitable for drop bars? Also, looking for bar end shifters.
>
> My son lives in Brooklyn, so if any of you are somewhat local to him, that 
> would be ideal.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mark Taintor
> Chanhassen, MN
>
>
>

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[RBW] Tech question about shifter and brake cables and WTB

[Mark Taintor]

In the vein of there are no stupid questions: My son recently bought a new
Handsome Cycles Devil and is thinking about switching from flat to drop
bars. He's wondering if he'll need new brake and shifter cables.  I told
him that I thought he'd probably need new cables for both since he'll be
switching to new brake levers and a new rear shifter. But I don't really
know.(It's an 8-speed bike.)

In the Wanting to Buy department, does anyone have a surplus pair of
shifters suitable for drop bars? Also, looking for bar end shifters.

My son lives in Brooklyn, so if any of you are somewhat local to him, that
would be ideal.

Thanks in advance,
Mark Taintor
Chanhassen, MN

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Bags & rack, grid-grey for olive. (Possibly WTB/FS)

['Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Keith, I sent you a note offline about an Olive Trunksack that I’ve had sitting 
on my shelf for a while. I’m not sure it made it through. Please drop me a line 
at shrew (one) (three) at yahoo if you’d be interested in a single vs a set. I 
only have the one bag, not a matched set.
Thanks!
Kurt Henry
Lancaster Pa USA

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Re: [RBW] FS: Classic Style Riv-ish Sunglasses

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

They are not. 

–Eric N


> On Sep 11, 2020, at 11:24 PM, 'John O'shea' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Do you happen to know if these are polarized?
> 
> Thanks,
> John O'shea
> Lexington KY
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 11:37 AM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>> FS: Pair of classic sunglasses like Rivendell used to sell (in fact, I 
>> *think* one of these came from Rivendell). Quality safety-rated lenses and 
>> frames. One pair has dark green lenses, the other is dark grey. Worn a few 
>> times. 
>> 
>> $15 each shipped in the USA or $25 for both.
>> 
>> Pics:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
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[RBW] Be still my beating heart, a new 8 speed group.

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Apologies if this is old news, we've been a bit occupied up here in 
Rochester.

Aside from the color and compatibility (understandable), I'm super happy to 
have a low-cost, clutch option, alternative-to-Shimano 8 speed group

https://www.microshift.com/en/introducing-acolyte/

$88 gets you a shifter derailleur and cassette.  Paired with the right 
crank and you're capable of everything but loaded touring and pedaling 
downhill.


Alex in Rochester, NY

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Re: [RBW] Baby Bosco Bars!

[Mark Roland]

The Wavie-Babie Bar. Baby-Wavy Bar? Wave-to-Baby Bar. 
Wave-to-the-Baby-at-the-Bar Bar.

On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 10:12:47 AM UTC-4, Dorothy C wrote:
>
> Might the Wavie bar work? Riv say it works for someone used to a flat bar 
> but comes back more. If it is too wide it could be trimmed. 
>
> On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 8:05:45 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad 
>>
>> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Sackville Banana Sack

[Joel Stern]

I use the Kevin’s bad, predecessor to the XS I believe.  I sold all of my
banana bags and now find I need room for a camera and windbreaker.  Always
well made.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:18 PM Roberta  wrote:

> They are really nicely made bags, aren’t they?  I really liked my xs
> saddle sack and used it for three years before I recently traded for a
> banana sax, for just a little more room to Fit jacket and gloves. Mine came
> with a flap to hold items inside in in case of a fall or to be able to
> overstuff the bag and keep contents secure. Are they still sold with that
> nice feature? I had planned to do the same idea with a bandana.
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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto stem, Technomic Deluxe, I believe

[David Wadstrup]

Hi Peter.  It's yours!  Thank you.  You can email me directly at dwadstrup 
at g mail dot com.  Venmo is my preferred method of payment since there are 
no fees, but Paypal will work, too.  Let me know here if you email me and 
don't hear back.
On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 6:56:07 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

>   Peter, At this time you have to switch to the classic groups with a 
> desktop browser format to be able to "reply to author".  No one knows why 
> it's not working with the new/not-really-improved group format .
>
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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto stem, Technomic Deluxe, I believe

[Garth]

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desktop browser format to be able to "reply to author".  No one knows why 
it's not working with the new/not-really-improved group format .

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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto stem, Technomic Deluxe, I believe

['Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I would reply directly to David, but it seems that this list does not allow 
me to do that. I wonder whether there is any remedy for that.

David, if you ever see this response, I'm good for your stem.

Cheers

~pb  



 

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:23:34 AM UTC-7 David Wadstrup wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm not 100% certain, but I think this model is called the Technomic 
> Deluxe.  It's got the same finish as the Tallux, but is shorter in length. 
>  This one has a 26.0 bar clamp diameter and 11cm reach.  The max extension 
> is about 115mm.  It's in great, slightly used condition with just the usual 
> twisty scratches where it was inserted into the headtube below the "max 
> height" line.  
>
> Asking $30 plus $10 shipping CONUS.
>
> [image: IMG_1947.jpeg][image: IMG_1949.jpeg][image: IMG_1952.jpeg][image: 
> IMG_1948.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Fixed gear dropouts and fenders

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Clayton's all over it with the removable axel bolts. Phil and Paul both 
make such hubs.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] ISO Bosco Bars, 58cm

[Ian Terry]

Anyone got a pair of these? My mother is looking to get more upright than 
her current Jones bars are allowing. I don't mind buying a new pair, but 
buying used promotes efficiency! 

Thanks,
Ian Terry
Miami, FL

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Bags & rack, grid-grey for olive. (Possibly WTB/FS)

[iamkeith]

Update:

Sold the grid-grey bags as a set, so I guess I'll just wait until Riv 
re-stocks and buy new olive ones.

I still have the Campee front rack if anybody needs one or has a Mark's 
rack to trade.   Both are nice but, if your bike fits the Campee, it's 
really the nicer choice:  Fewer parts, less clutter, more custom looking, 
lighter, and (the main reason for having one) it includes a threaded boss 
for stabilizing the cantilevered part of a front fender!   The recent thing 
with Nitto and Riv recommending straps because of a spate of broken ones 
was not because of a design failure.   I have another one of these that's 
20 years old and still going strong, and gave a second one away with the 
Clem that was fine too.  It's just because dumb hipsters were loading them 
with 12-packs and going camping on rough trails!


While I'm at it, I might as well add the following rear rack WTT that I 
*also* just discovered that I'd need for the Susie:

HAVE: Nitto R-14 rear rack that Riv used to sell.  It has a tall tombstone 
and the front hardware attachments are the the flat in front type.  This 
one works best if your upper braze-ons are at the height of the rack (ie.: 
above the tire/fender).  Otherwise the struts need to be bent - but that's 
the way most were installed.

NEED:  Nitto RBW-51 front/rear replacement that Riv now sells. (Tiny 
tombstone, front hardware mounts to side.)


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[RBW] WTB Clem H 45cm. Green or Grilver.

[Alex K]

Posting this for a buddy who had his prized whip stolen. I’d gladly sell 
him my Clem L 52, but it’s a bit large for him.  Any condition.  Just 
putting it out there, because it’s tough riding my ridiculously perfect 
Clem L while he is bikeless.  Just thought I’d put it out there.  Thanks 
again all!!

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