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> Soviet, ir was over $30 to ship a $30 light so it would depend on the 
> shipping for a larger order and if it then makes sense. Logistics ok for me.
>
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> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Sofie C  wrote:
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>> I actually thought of posting something similar -- there are a lot of small 
>> things I'm interested in getting from Blue Lug, but I find myself adding 
>> more to my cart than what I need to justify the shipping cost I would be 
>> interested in going in on a group order, but with two young kids and a ft 
>> job I'm not in a position to handle the logistics of organizing one...
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Jared thank you I sent them a message so hopefully they’ll get back to me 
>>> and if not I’ll give them a call. I really appreciate it
>>>
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>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Justin  wrote:
>>>
 Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They 
 are real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma 
 lights stocked. https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
 best
 Justin
 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

> Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more for 
> shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are others in 
> this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.
>
> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a 
> front light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on 
> flash mode. My Koma lights seem to last longer.
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Re: [RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

Soviet, ir was over $30 to ship a $30 light so it would depend on the shipping 
for a larger order and if it then makes sense. Logistics ok for me.

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> I actually thought of posting something similar -- there are a lot of small 
> things I'm interested in getting from Blue Lug, but I find myself adding more 
> to my cart than what I need to justify the shipping cost I would be 
> interested in going in on a group order, but with two young kids and a ft job 
> I'm not in a position to handle the logistics of organizing one...
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Jared thank you I sent them a message so hopefully they’ll get back to me 
>> and if not I’ll give them a call. I really appreciate it
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
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>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Justin  wrote:
>>
>>> Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They are 
>>> real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma lights 
>>> stocked. https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
>>> best
>>> Justin
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more for 
 shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are others in 
 this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.

 I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a front 
 light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash mode. 
 My Koma lights seem to last longer.
>>
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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-14 Thread Erik

Hi All, 

I've removed my posts out of respect for the primary purpose of the list. 
 Feel free to reach out directly if anyone wants to explore the topic 
further!  

Erik 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 100mm SimWorks Gettin' Hungry Stem (or similar)

I didn't realize all SimWorks stems had that same name. I am looking for 
the Lettuce one. The 0 degree 25.4 one. Silver preferred.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:18:55 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I am looking for a 100mm SimWorks stem.  What I need is a 0 degree (or 
> positive degree) stem and it can't be super tall like everything Rivendell 
> sells.  With the 0 or positive degree angle the bars get way too high with 
> the tall stem. I don't need this to get bars higher I just like the look. 
> Anyway the SimWorks is perfect for what I want but out of stock everywhere 
> except Canada where it costs a bit more.  Anyway have one? I know there are 
> some Nittos that fit the bill too (like the MT-54S). Those are out of stock 
> everywhere but a few spots in Japan. Again pretty pricey to get here.

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[RBW] WTB: 100mm SimWorks Gettin' Hungry Stem (or similar)

2022-02-14 Thread 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch

I am looking for a 100mm SimWorks stem.  What I need is a 0 degree (or 
positive degree) stem and it can't be super tall like everything Rivendell 
sells.  With the 0 or positive degree angle the bars get way too high with 
the tall stem. I don't need this to get bars higher I just like the look. 
Anyway the SimWorks is perfect for what I want but out of stock everywhere 
except Canada where it costs a bit more.  Anyway have one? I know there are 
some Nittos that fit the bill too (like the MT-54S). Those are out of stock 
everywhere but a few spots in Japan. Again pretty pricey to get here.

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Re: [RBW] Twine Wrapping

2022-02-14 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch

Thanks! That’s what I was looking for!

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Feb 14, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Andrew Turner  wrote:
> 
> And if you don't have that sleeve on the handlebar to work off an edge with, 
> this tutorial works great too! This person does the process on the top of the 
> bars which is easier to do but the end result looks 10% better if you start 
> on the underside of the bars. Happy twining! 
> 
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGC7zS9jY04 
> 
> 
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:
> Maybe this video helps, starting at 2:40 or so: 
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/handlebar-wrap-and-twine-finish?_pos=3&_sid=0cba5b582&_ss=r
>  
> 
> 
> Paul in AR
> 
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:00:27 PM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com 
>  wrote:
> Where can I find instructions on using twine, Riv-style, to finish off my 
> handlebar tape? I have the twine, but not the knowledge … 
> 
> --Eric Norris 
> campyo...@me.com <> 
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy 
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
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Re: [RBW] Happy Valentine’s Day: Triple hearts for you!

Happy bike hearts to my fellow #RivSisters and #RivBrothers.  
Kate 

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 5:10:29 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Geez, did I use the word "hearts" enough in that post?? I guess this is 
> the day for it! 
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:51:14 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I have hearts, too! I think this is the same pic I posted last year but 
>> in my defense I don't have any new heart bikes. Same old hearts! (I also 
>> don't know how to put the pic in the post like Leah so please enjoy this 
>> lovely attached screenshot )
>>
>> This is a good opportunity for my heart story surrounding the custom, I 
>> don't think I ever told it:
>>
>> I've been bessotted with the Riv hearts ever since they showed up on the 
>> first mixtes, specifically the red ones on the Betty Foy. A couple years 
>> ago I saw a Riv custom that had a dropped toptube and used the heart 
>> seatlug, it was blue with a red heart and I said " THAT'S it. Whatever else 
>> my custom becomes it has to have the heart lug and it has to be red." Which 
>> is how I eventually arrived at this sort-of-a-mixte with a Dove Gray frame 
>> and Rad Red (Joe Bell's name) fills. 
>>
>> Happy Valentine's Day!!! ❤️❤️❤️
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:36:08 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It’s time for my annual Valentine post. Hearts all around, from my trio 
>>> in snowy Michigan, see next post:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:43:27 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>
 Joe and Leah, 
 Thanks!  I’m glad you liked the photo.  Another detail you may not have 
 been able to see is a snappy little Corgi pin on the hat.  (That’s another 
 story that may show up on IG).

 —Joyce and Snow Buddy (“I’m elting!”)

 On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:06:39 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Joyce, you’re a trooper! I love the photo and I’m glad you pointed out 
> the sign language because I’d have missed that endearing detail. 
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:26 PM, JAS  wrote:
>
> 
>
> <7AE73C28-DB3A-49D7-90DA-7CD78FAE8520.jpeg>
> Snow buddies have hearts too.  Love that Clem!  (It’s hard to see, but 
> the gloves are signing “I love you!”). 
>
> —Joyce, from the snowy NW
>
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 1:16:08 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Happy Valentine’s Day! Every year I send Betty Foy hearts on this 
>> forum, but this year, you get Platy hearts. Coming to you in the 2nd 
>> post, 
>> and hopefully not sideways. 
>>
>>
>>
>> We started the day off with a ride into town for coffee. We dashed 
>> home with breakfast burritos in tow to enjoy with the boys, and not even 
>> my 
>> husband’s flat tire could ruin our fun. 
>>
>> Have a lovely day, everyone. I wish you bike rides and chocolate.
>>
>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: WTB: V brakes, levers, and heat treated Albatross bars

2022-02-14 Thread Andrew Turner

2 + 3 I no longer need so it's just the handlebars and shim left! 
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:11:54 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Riv has all this in stock but I'm a sucker for buying used. If anyone's 
> got the goods below, I'm interested!   
>
> 1) Heat treated Ablatross handlebars 
> 2) Deore V brakes or nicer. Shimano-y. I'm down with vintage xtr or the 
> like (who wouldn't!)  
> 3) Long pull brake levers, they just need to be silver and in decent 
> shape. Nothing fancy necessary   
> 4) 31.8 to 25.4 shim 
>  
> I'm in zip code 37064
>
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[RBW] Re: Twine Wrapping

This handy document from Riv. 


If you look in the 20th catalog there's a primer in there as well.  

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:18:13 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> And if you don't have that sleeve on the handlebar to work off an edge 
> with, this tutorial works great too! This person does the process on the 
> top of the bars which is easier to do but the end result looks 10% better 
> if you start on the underside of the bars. Happy twining! 
>
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGC7zS9jY04
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Maybe this video helps, starting at 2:40 or so: 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/handlebar-wrap-and-twine-finish?_pos=3&_sid=0cba5b582&_ss=r
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:00:27 PM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Where can I find instructions on using twine, Riv-style, to finish off 
>>> my handlebar tape? I have the twine, but not the knowledge … 
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris 
>>> campyo...@me.com 
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy 
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-14 Thread John Rinker

I hear you on the 'consistent practice' notion, Paul. This is why I find 
cycling such a wonderful medium. I enjoy it, it's something I don't really 
need to motivate myself to do, and I do it every day. As long as I'm 
sitting on the bike, I might as well breathe and enjoy my surroundings. 

Cheers,
John

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:12:21 AM UTC+9 John Rinker wrote:

> Hey Joe, Your point is well received, and I do appreciate that we all ride 
> in our own ways and for our own reasons. I'm delighted to have a forum like 
> this to learn about how others do so. 
>
> Perhaps a better title for this post would have been: 'Breathing, 
> attention and other practices that enhance your ride' 
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 8:58:12 AM UTC+9 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I don't have a lot to add, but since I think about this kind of a lot, 
>> I'll add my experience, but try to keep it short. I often recite/perform 
>> Thich Nhat Hahn's breathing poem when I ride: "In/Out, Deep/Slow, 
>> Calm/Ease, Smile/Release, Present Moment/Wonderful Moment". I've never been 
>> big on listening to teachers, so I never got into Zen or any other sort of 
>> formal practice, but I did take a bunch of psychedelics with friends who 
>> enjoyed talking about the nature of reality as much as I did, and ended up 
>> having some conversations with Buddhist teachers about following the path 
>> of the Buddha or finding one's own path. For me, many different experiences 
>> have led to me to where I am now, and cycling has been an important one - 
>> along with love and drugs.
>>
>> But after all of that, I find that without some sort of consistent 
>> practice, maintaining presence in my day-to-day life is a real struggle, 
>> exacerbated by the typical responsibilities of middle age. It may not 
>> matter how I practice, but doing it every day, one way or another, with 
>> intention, seems to be important. Inconsistency aside, maybe this is the 
>> year for a real bicycle day blowout.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-6 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I appreciate the sentiment of this topic and am now on the hunt at local 
>>> book shops for a couple different titles.
>>>
>>> The Stanford Baccalaureate speech has been replayed a handful of times 
>>> already, so thanks for that Erik.
>>>
>>> I'd also like to throw into the ring The Pocket Thich Nhat Hahn 
>>> , this 
>>> compact book covers the basics and fits in just about anywhere with ease, 
>>> including your saddlebag.
>>>
>>> It's covers the basics and is very palatable, 10/10 worth keeping a copy 
>>> around.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jared
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:26:41 AM UTC-8 robkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Erik,
 +1 on thanks for your thorough response. 

 We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough 
 about the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting 
 this thread. 

 Rob K. in MA

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
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> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the 
> most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this 
> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before 
>> my posts get pulled!"
>>
>> Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to 
>> unexpected places. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot 
>>> of people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of 
>>> talks by 
>>> Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
>>> book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
>>> over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there 
>>> are 
>>> many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  
>>>
>>> A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
>>> - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a 
>>> few years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a 
>>> fantastic 
>>> writer and teacher.  
>>> -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of 
>>> the original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great 
>>> reflection of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me 
>>> for 
>>> writing these lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for 
>>> living too much in my head.  :)
>>>
>>> If you want to hear / watch a

[RBW] Re: Twine Wrapping

2022-02-14 Thread Andrew Turner

And if you don't have that sleeve on the handlebar to work off an edge 
with, this tutorial works great too! This person does the process on the 
top of the bars which is easier to do but the end result looks 10% better 
if you start on the underside of the bars. Happy twining! 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGC7zS9jY04

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Maybe this video helps, starting at 2:40 or so: 
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/handlebar-wrap-and-twine-finish?_pos=3&_sid=0cba5b582&_ss=r
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:00:27 PM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Where can I find instructions on using twine, Riv-style, to finish off my 
>> handlebar tape? I have the twine, but not the knowledge … 
>>
>> --Eric Norris 
>> campyo...@me.com 
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy 
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-14 Thread John Rinker

Hey Joe, Your point is well received, and I do appreciate that we all ride 
in our own ways and for our own reasons. I'm delighted to have a forum like 
this to learn about how others do so. 

Perhaps a better title for this post would have been: 'Breathing, attention 
and other practices that enhance your ride' 

Cheers,
John


On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 8:58:12 AM UTC+9 Paul Clifton wrote:

> I don't have a lot to add, but since I think about this kind of a lot, 
> I'll add my experience, but try to keep it short. I often recite/perform 
> Thich Nhat Hahn's breathing poem when I ride: "In/Out, Deep/Slow, 
> Calm/Ease, Smile/Release, Present Moment/Wonderful Moment". I've never been 
> big on listening to teachers, so I never got into Zen or any other sort of 
> formal practice, but I did take a bunch of psychedelics with friends who 
> enjoyed talking about the nature of reality as much as I did, and ended up 
> having some conversations with Buddhist teachers about following the path 
> of the Buddha or finding one's own path. For me, many different experiences 
> have led to me to where I am now, and cycling has been an important one - 
> along with love and drugs.
>
> But after all of that, I find that without some sort of consistent 
> practice, maintaining presence in my day-to-day life is a real struggle, 
> exacerbated by the typical responsibilities of middle age. It may not 
> matter how I practice, but doing it every day, one way or another, with 
> intention, seems to be important. Inconsistency aside, maybe this is the 
> year for a real bicycle day blowout.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-6 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I appreciate the sentiment of this topic and am now on the hunt at local 
>> book shops for a couple different titles.
>>
>> The Stanford Baccalaureate speech has been replayed a handful of times 
>> already, so thanks for that Erik.
>>
>> I'd also like to throw into the ring The Pocket Thich Nhat Hahn 
>> , this 
>> compact book covers the basics and fits in just about anywhere with ease, 
>> including your saddlebag.
>>
>> It's covers the basics and is very palatable, 10/10 worth keeping a copy 
>> around.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jared
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:26:41 AM UTC-8 robkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Erik,
>>> +1 on thanks for your thorough response. 
>>>
>>> We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough about 
>>> the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting this 
>>> thread. 
>>>
>>> Rob K. in MA
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the 
 most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this 
 title. Thanks for the recommendations.

 On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

> "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before 
> my posts get pulled!"
>
> Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to unexpected 
> places. 
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>
>> The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot 
>> of people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of talks 
>> by 
>> Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
>> book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
>> over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there 
>> are 
>> many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  
>>
>> A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
>> - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a 
>> few years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a 
>> fantastic 
>> writer and teacher.  
>> -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of 
>> the original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great 
>> reflection of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me for 
>> writing these lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for 
>> living too much in my head.  :)
>>
>> If you want to hear / watch a talk, I always like to recommend this 
>> one because it was written for a lay audience and connects the 
>> principles 
>> of Zen with ordinary life.  It's Zoketsu Norman Fischer giving the 
>> graduation speech at Stanford in 2014.  
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9p__BHHDs
>>
>> And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before 
>> my posts get pulled!
>>   
>>
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:48:17 AM UTC-8

[RBW] WTB: V brakes, levers, and heat treated Albatross bars

2022-02-14 Thread Andrew Turner

Riv has all this in stock but I'm a sucker for buying used. If anyone's got 
the goods below, I'm interested!   

1) Heat treated Ablatross handlebars 
2) Deore V brakes or nicer. Shimano-y. I'm down with vintage xtr or the 
like (who wouldn't!)  
3) Long pull brake levers, they just need to be silver and in decent shape. 
Nothing fancy necessary   
4) 31.8 to 25.4 shim 
 
I'm in zip code 37064

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[RBW] Re: Twine Wrapping

2022-02-14 Thread Paul Clifton

Maybe this video helps, starting at 2:40 or so: 
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/handlebar-wrap-and-twine-finish?_pos=3&_sid=0cba5b582&_ss=r

Paul in AR

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:00:27 PM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Where can I find instructions on using twine, Riv-style, to finish off my 
> handlebar tape? I have the twine, but not the knowledge … 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
>

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[RBW] Twine Wrapping

2022-02-14 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch

Where can I find instructions on using twine, Riv-style, to finish off my 
handlebar tape? I have the twine, but not the knowledge … 

--Eric Norris
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Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-14 Thread Paul Clifton

I don't have a lot to add, but since I think about this kind of a lot, I'll 
add my experience, but try to keep it short. I often recite/perform Thich 
Nhat Hahn's breathing poem when I ride: "In/Out, Deep/Slow, Calm/Ease, 
Smile/Release, Present Moment/Wonderful Moment". I've never been big on 
listening to teachers, so I never got into Zen or any other sort of formal 
practice, but I did take a bunch of psychedelics with friends who enjoyed 
talking about the nature of reality as much as I did, and ended up having 
some conversations with Buddhist teachers about following the path of the 
Buddha or finding one's own path. For me, many different experiences have 
led to me to where I am now, and cycling has been an important one - along 
with love and drugs.

But after all of that, I find that without some sort of consistent 
practice, maintaining presence in my day-to-day life is a real struggle, 
exacerbated by the typical responsibilities of middle age. It may not 
matter how I practice, but doing it every day, one way or another, with 
intention, seems to be important. Inconsistency aside, maybe this is the 
year for a real bicycle day blowout.

Paul in AR

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-6 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> I appreciate the sentiment of this topic and am now on the hunt at local 
> book shops for a couple different titles.
>
> The Stanford Baccalaureate speech has been replayed a handful of times 
> already, so thanks for that Erik.
>
> I'd also like to throw into the ring The Pocket Thich Nhat Hahn 
> , this 
> compact book covers the basics and fits in just about anywhere with ease, 
> including your saddlebag.
>
> It's covers the basics and is very palatable, 10/10 worth keeping a copy 
> around.
>
> Best,
> Jared
>
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:26:41 AM UTC-8 robkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Erik,
>> +1 on thanks for your thorough response. 
>>
>> We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough about 
>> the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting this 
>> thread. 
>>
>> Rob K. in MA
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the 
>>> most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this 
>>> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before 
 my posts get pulled!"

 Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to unexpected 
 places. 

 Cheers,
 John

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:

> The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot of 
> people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of talks by 
> Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
> book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
> over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there 
> are 
> many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  
>
> A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
> - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a few 
> years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a fantastic 
> writer and teacher.  
> -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of 
> the original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great 
> reflection of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me for 
> writing these lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for 
> living too much in my head.  :)
>
> If you want to hear / watch a talk, I always like to recommend this 
> one because it was written for a lay audience and connects the principles 
> of Zen with ordinary life.  It's Zoketsu Norman Fischer giving the 
> graduation speech at Stanford in 2014.  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9p__BHHDs
>
> And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before 
> my posts get pulled!
>   
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:48:17 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm learning so much here - is there an equivalent of Grant's "Just 
>> Ride" for Zen?
>>
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:08:51 AM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> What a pleasure it was to read of your experience, Erik! Much of 
>>> what you wrote resonates deeply with me. Perhaps this is because we 
>>> share 
>>> something of a history with San Francisco Zen Center and a particular 
>>> approach to both Zen and riding a bike. 
>>>
>>> My formative experiences

Re: [RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

2022-02-14 Thread Sofie C

I actually thought of posting something similar -- there are a lot of small 
things I'm interested in getting from Blue Lug, but I find myself adding 
more to my cart than what I need to justify the shipping cost I would 
be interested in going in on a group order, but with two young kids and a 
ft job I'm not in a position to handle the logistics of organizing one...
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Jared thank you I sent them a message so hopefully they’ll get back to me 
> and if not I’ll give them a call. I really appreciate it
>
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Justin  wrote:
>
> Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They 
> are real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma 
> lights stocked. https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
> best
> Justin
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Shipping is very expensive.  I have a hard tine justifying paying more 
>> for shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get.  If there are others 
>> in this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.  
>>
>> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a 
>> front light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash 
>> mode.  My Koma lights seem to last longer.  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

2022-02-14 Thread E. Ricky Creek

Chocomoose!!!


On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:

> [image: 35DF0035-F6A0-49C3-BB9B-463FC58E96E2.jpeg]These are them on my 
> new to me Saluki.  I put them on both bikes. 
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:09:28 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> [image: 08D383C3-5CC3-42D6-844A-873D524C1A5A.jpeg]
>> I’m using Choco bars now after using Albatross for years.  I like the 
>> Choco bars more. 
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:59:43 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I originally set up my Hillborne with Nitto B115s years ago with aTallux 
>>> 100mm stem.  Fairly quickly switched to Albatross bars on the same stem.  
>>> Have had them on the bike for 6 years.  This past year I switched over to 
>>> Choco bars and a 110mm FacePlater stem (to make up for the loss in rise 
>>> going from the Albas to the Chocos.  I loved the look of the Albas and 
>>> can't beat the fact that the bike can be turned upside down on the bars and 
>>> saddle for tire changes and such.  I run the Chocos inverted as I like the 
>>> angle it places my wrists in. My favorite hand position on the bars is at 
>>> or just forward of the brake levers, and with the Chocos, there is a bit 
>>> more room just forward of the brake levers and the curve of the bars.  I 
>>> originally set up my Disc Trucker this way when I built it up last August 
>>> and liked it so much I decided to run the same bars on the Hillborne.  Here 
>>> is a picture of the arrangement.  Only difference for the Hillborne is the 
>>> stem.  The foam covering I use affords a multitude of hand positions.
>>>
>>> [image: DSCF0067 copy.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:28:50 AM UTC-8 Erik Wright wrote:
>>>
 IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up 
 my Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with 
 the Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months 
 back. 
 It seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to 
 complement the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross 
 predates those bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from 
 drops. I think something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from 
 popping you too upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and 
 have considered a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered 
 with the swap.

 Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
 thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
 position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
 bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
 you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
 keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
 shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
 hand position.

 Erik, Philly

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer 
> depends on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache 
> in 
> which case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a 
> shorter stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional 
> sweptback my suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco. 
>  
> But it's really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to 
> be.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but 
>> want to convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a 
>> similar 
>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

Jared thank you I sent them a message so hopefully they’ll get back to me and 
if not I’ll give them a call. I really appreciate it

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On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Justin  wrote:

> Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They are 
> real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma lights 
> stocked. https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
> best
> Justin
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more for 
>> shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are others in 
>> this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.
>>
>> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a front 
>> light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash mode. 
>> My Koma lights seem to last longer.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

I did the same last year when I was looking for a Choco bars and I sucked up 
the freight but I did add a couple of lights I just wish I would’ve added one 
more. Their service is impeccable.

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On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 5:26 PM, Minh  wrote:

> it is unfortunate, i just ordered a few things from circles (basically 
> sim.works HQ), and it was $90 shipping, in the end it worked for me since 
> they had something i couldnt get anywhere else.
>
> as i understand it, international air shipping from JP is still restricted, 
> fingers crossed it opens up again soon, its impresssive to get a package in 
> only a few days from JP, but i dont need it that fast!
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 4:48:10 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more for 
>> shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are others in 
>> this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.
>>
>> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a front 
>> light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash mode. 
>> My Koma lights seem to last longer.
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Re: [RBW] If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

Jon, I did. They are out of silver. I should call.
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> Have you tried Crust Bikes for those lights?
> Crustbikes.com
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 2:48 PM 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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>> Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more for 
>> shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are others in 
>> this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.
>>
>> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a front 
>> light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash mode. 
>> My Koma lights seem to last longer.
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Re: [RBW] Suggestions for transporting a fat, tall, heavy wheel by bicycle?

2022-02-14 Thread Patrick Moore

Josiah: Thanks. In the event, I simply rode home carrying the wheel in my
right hand. The route is mostly dirt acequia roads with gates, and simply
stopped and propped the bike up against gates while I carried the wheel
around/over, then propped that up and carried the bike around or over. The
last 3/4 mile is access roads, and I took a 1/4 mile detour on sidewalk at
the busiest part. Sub 2 miles total taking dirt back way. Arm tired upon
arrival home.

Really must find those front axle wheel carriers I made a few years ago ...

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 8:35 AM Josiah Anderson 
wrote:

> I've had good results carrying wheels horizontally by putting the rim
> against the forward stop ("tombstone") of a rear rack and the axle with QR
> hooked in front of the rearmost rail, held on by two toe straps or whatever
> else is handy. I have no idea if your wheel and rack will match up in a way
> that makes this possible. I've also made many backpack-type wheel carriers
> out of stuff pulled from bike shop garbage cans: inner tubes as the straps
> and a piece of cardboard as padding, attached using some combination of
> knots and zip-ties.
>
> Josiah Anderson
> Missoula, MT
>
> Le lun. 31 janv. 2022 à 16:33, Patrick Moore  a
> écrit :
>
>> I seek ad hoc methods, nothing requiring permanent setups.
>>
>> Tomorrow I hope to pick up the rear Monocog wheel from the shop fewer
>> than 2 miles from home. The wheel is heavy and almost 31" in diameter. The
>> bike I plan to ride (to the PO, in fact, and pick up wheel on the way home)
>> has a rear rack and will be carrying Ortlieb Backrollers, in case you have
>> a solution involving rear racks and Ortlieb panniers.
>>
>> I've carried rims on my back slung by ad hoc slings created from 2 Riv
>> Irish straps, and I've hacked front axle mounts for a pair of wheels(a la
>> the working class Brit club racer solution, made in about 20 minutes from
>> 1" aluminum strips, but this is for a single rear wheel and I don't want to
>> bother to find the wheel carriers.
>>
>> My plan is to use the Irish/John straps and some cloth to pad the axle
>> where it digs into my back -- or simply ride home 1-handed, carrying the
>> wheel in the other hand -- untrafficked bosque ditch roads; but if
>> youse/yiss/yinz/all y'all have better ideas, please share them. I really
>> dislike driving my car on a 3-mile rt errand.
>>
>> Ta!
>>
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[RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

2022-02-14 Thread Justin

Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They are 
real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma lights 
stocked. https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
best
Justin
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

> Shipping is very expensive.  I have a hard tine justifying paying more for 
> shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get.  If there are others in 
> this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.  
>
> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a front 
> light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash mode. 
>  My Koma lights seem to last longer.  
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Re: [RBW] If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

2022-02-14 Thread Jon Dukeman

Have you tried Crust Bikes for those lights?
Crustbikes.com

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 2:48 PM 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Shipping is very expensive.  I have a hard tine justifying paying more for
> shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get.  If there are others in
> this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.
>
> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a front
> light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash mode.
> My Koma lights seem to last longer.
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[RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

2022-02-14 Thread Minh

it is unfortunate, i just ordered a few things from circles (basically 
sim.works HQ), and it was $90 shipping, in the end it worked for me since 
they had something i couldnt get anywhere else.  

as i understand it, international air shipping from JP is still restricted, 
fingers crossed it opens up again soon, its impresssive to get a package in 
only a few days from JP, but i dont need it that fast!

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> Shipping is very expensive.  I have a hard tine justifying paying more for 
> shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get.  If there are others in 
> this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.  
>
> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a front 
> light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash mode. 
>  My Koma lights seem to last longer.  
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Re: [RBW] Happy Valentine’s Day: Triple hearts for you!

2022-02-14 Thread Joe Bernard

Geez, did I use the word "hearts" enough in that post?? I guess this is the 
day for it! 



On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:51:14 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I have hearts, too! I think this is the same pic I posted last year but in 
> my defense I don't have any new heart bikes. Same old hearts! (I also don't 
> know how to put the pic in the post like Leah so please enjoy this lovely 
> attached screenshot )
>
> This is a good opportunity for my heart story surrounding the custom, I 
> don't think I ever told it:
>
> I've been bessotted with the Riv hearts ever since they showed up on the 
> first mixtes, specifically the red ones on the Betty Foy. A couple years 
> ago I saw a Riv custom that had a dropped toptube and used the heart 
> seatlug, it was blue with a red heart and I said " THAT'S it. Whatever else 
> my custom becomes it has to have the heart lug and it has to be red." Which 
> is how I eventually arrived at this sort-of-a-mixte with a Dove Gray frame 
> and Rad Red (Joe Bell's name) fills. 
>
> Happy Valentine's Day!!! ❤️❤️❤️
>
> Joe Bernard
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:36:08 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It’s time for my annual Valentine post. Hearts all around, from my trio 
>> in snowy Michigan, see next post:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:43:27 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Joe and Leah, 
>>> Thanks!  I’m glad you liked the photo.  Another detail you may not have 
>>> been able to see is a snappy little Corgi pin on the hat.  (That’s another 
>>> story that may show up on IG).
>>>
>>> —Joyce and Snow Buddy (“I’m elting!”)
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:06:39 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Joyce, you’re a trooper! I love the photo and I’m glad you pointed out 
 the sign language because I’d have missed that endearing detail. 
 #RivSisters,
 Leah

 Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:26 PM, JAS  wrote:

 

 <7AE73C28-DB3A-49D7-90DA-7CD78FAE8520.jpeg>
 Snow buddies have hearts too.  Love that Clem!  (It’s hard to see, but 
 the gloves are signing “I love you!”). 

 —Joyce, from the snowy NW


 On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 1:16:08 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Happy Valentine’s Day! Every year I send Betty Foy hearts on this 
> forum, but this year, you get Platy hearts. Coming to you in the 2nd 
> post, 
> and hopefully not sideways. 
>
>
>
> We started the day off with a ride into town for coffee. We dashed 
> home with breakfast burritos in tow to enjoy with the boys, and not even 
> my 
> husband’s flat tire could ruin our fun. 
>
> Have a lovely day, everyone. I wish you bike rides and chocolate.
>
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

2022-02-14 Thread Corwin

Santa Susana pass. I have not visited the area in many years. But that 
brings back memories of my first century - more than 45 years ago. Started 
at PCH and Topanga Canyon Blvd. Up Topanga Canyon, north to where the 118 
is today. East to Thousand Oaks and back to PCH via Decker Canyon Road. 
Most vivid memories from that ride were a guy smoking a cigarette after we 
climbed Santa Susana pass and my eating five quarter pounders in Thousand 
Oaks (had not eaten anything that day).

Not suggesting Topanga Canyon Blvd (or any other street) is rideable or 
unrideable.


Corwin

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 7:15:30 AM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:

> I am working from home at the moment but will soon be going back to the 
> office. Unfortunately we had to move from the house we were renting which 
> was 1 1/4 miles from my office, where I could bike every day, to the other 
> side of the Santa Susana pass, in late 2020. My office is in Chatsworth CA, 
> but we now live in Simi Valley. 
> The only bike route through is the Santa Susana pass and SR-27 - Topanga 
> Canyon Blvd, which I am too nervous to ride. It is also very hilly in the 
> middle. 
> I plan to ride to the Metrolink train and take my bike one stop, then ride 
> from there. I love bike commuting, such a great way to start and end the 
> day. 
>
> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Kudos. It's always nice to have your bike comfortably parked by your 
>> desk. And it's hard to beat Ortliebs for price/performance/durability, even 
>> looks.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who works at home, but can sneak out for mid-afternoon 
>> rides in the bosque, as today.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 4:59 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm finally set up and have been riding the entire week on my Platypus. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Happy Valentine

2022-02-14 Thread 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch

Nice, love the front door.  

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 3:32:53 PM UTC-5 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

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> Date: Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 1:29 PM
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[RBW] If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

2022-02-14 Thread 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch

Shipping is very expensive.  I have a hard tine justifying paying more for 
shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get.  If there are others in 
this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping.  

I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a front 
light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash mode. 
 My Koma lights seem to last longer.  

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Re: [RBW] Bruce Gordon Rear Rack

2022-02-14 Thread Steven Sweedler

By at least twice, I just sold a set of rear and front lowriders, hoped for
$200. and got $150.   Ste e

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> I think $375 was more than Bruce sold these for.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:08:24 PM UTC-5 jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On 2/12/22, Paul Armijo  wrote:
>> > Bruce Gordon Rear Rack Pannier Mount 700c 27 in Road Touring Black USA.
>> In
>> > fantastic Condition. $375 OBO
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Re: [RBW] Happy Valentine’s Day: Triple hearts for you!

2022-02-14 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

It’s time for my annual Valentine post. Hearts all around, from my trio in 
snowy Michigan, see next post:


On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:43:27 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:

> Joe and Leah, 
> Thanks!  I’m glad you liked the photo.  Another detail you may not have 
> been able to see is a snappy little Corgi pin on the hat.  (That’s another 
> story that may show up on IG).
>
> —Joyce and Snow Buddy (“I’m elting!”)
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:06:39 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Joyce, you’re a trooper! I love the photo and I’m glad you pointed out 
>> the sign language because I’d have missed that endearing detail. 
>> #RivSisters,
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:26 PM, JAS  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> <7AE73C28-DB3A-49D7-90DA-7CD78FAE8520.jpeg>
>> Snow buddies have hearts too.  Love that Clem!  (It’s hard to see, but 
>> the gloves are signing “I love you!”). 
>>
>> —Joyce, from the snowy NW
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 1:16:08 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Happy Valentine’s Day! Every year I send Betty Foy hearts on this 
>>> forum, but this year, you get Platy hearts. Coming to you in the 2nd post, 
>>> and hopefully not sideways. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We started the day off with a ride into town for coffee. We dashed home 
>>> with breakfast burritos in tow to enjoy with the boys, and not even my 
>>> husband’s flat tire could ruin our fun. 
>>>
>>> Have a lovely day, everyone. I wish you bike rides and chocolate.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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>> <7AE73C28-DB3A-49D7-90DA-7CD78FAE8520.jpeg>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bruce Gordon Rear Rack

2022-02-14 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch

I think $375 was more than Bruce sold these for.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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> On 2/12/22, Paul Armijo  wrote:
> > Bruce Gordon Rear Rack Pannier Mount 700c 27 in Road Touring Black USA. 
> In
> > fantastic Condition. $375 OBO
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[RBW] Re: Shimano V-Brake Mounting Bolts

2022-02-14 Thread Garth

Johnny, Aliexpress is a wonderful place to go for product photos that show 
things no other website shows, like the complete package contents including 
the BOLTS !  

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32898734516.html

Surely not the XT ones. I saw these on the 'bay and look about right, 
M6x20mm rounded button head.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/232316680601?hash=item3617273999:g:pjIAAOSwt0FZA102

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:53:39 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> If you want fancy bolts. . .
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/bolts/rene-herse-brake-mounting-bolts/
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:22:09 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> @Garth I dis manage to find one of the bolts and they match what that 
>> document says for 2 of the bolts. I would bet that either 16 or 25 would 
>> work for either the front or back depending on what I find. That should 
>> give me enough info.
>>
>> @Rob for some reason the internet seems to think that there are Shimano 
>> specific bolts. I doubt that is true. The one that I found doesn't look 
>> anything like the one you posted as an official Shimano bolt and I know 
>> that his one came with the brakes.  Interesting.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:21:46 AM UTC-5 robkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Johnny,
>>> Bike shops are out of a lot of things, but I can't imagine they don't 
>>> have brake mounting bolts at any local shop. (But then, there's a lot of 
>>> things about this latest bike boom I thought I'd never see, so...) I guess 
>>> it depends how particular you are about the bolts you get. I'm sure the OEM 
>>> bolts Shimano supplies (
>>> https://cambriabike.com/products/shimano-xt-m750-739-v-brake-mounting-bolt) 
>>> could be a little rarer, but if you just need to mount the brakes, it 
>>> should be pretty simple. (These Shimano bolts may be what Garth's link 
>>> refers to, but I can't seem to get it to connect).
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:05:07 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 The M6 threaded bolts with a shallow or rounded button kind of head. 
 The length from Shimano states both 16mm and 25mm, front and rear I 
 suppose. 


 https://si.shimano.com/api/publish/storage/pdf/en/ev/BR-T670/EV-BR-T670-3307.pdf

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:26:22 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I have some Shimano LX V-brakes that I would like to use but realized 
> that I no longer have the mounting bolts. It doesn't look like this is an 
> easy to grab part and I am confused by what people on the internet say 
> works and doesn't work on the internet. Anyone know where to buy what 
> will 
> work?



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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-14 Thread Joe Bernard

I originally answered the "buzzy hub" component of this topic which I think 
hues close enough to the purpose of the list to get away with, but I'm less 
comfortable (one person's opinion, I'm not a moderator) with the extensive 
exploration of spirituality. Some of us pray while riding, too, which I'm 
not sure is a Riv Bunch discussion. 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 12:36:42 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's an interesting question (the noise one related to my thread). My 
> Rohloff hub makes various noises that I find soothing, the freewheel buzz 
> on my WI hub is somewhat intrusive. So yes, I do have "Zen rides" but 
> they're not necessarily achieved through quiet. There's lots of sounds 
> external of the bike out there that contribute, too. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 11:19:55 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> In a talk called "Zen Reconsidered" 
>> , Alan Watts relates a 
>> conversation he had with Horace Blyth about sitting meditation (zazen). 
>> Just a couple of Zen scholars shooting the breeze, I imagine. The gist, as 
>> I understand it, is that those who practice Zen and fixate on sitting 
>> meditation miss the whole point of Zen. The practice of Zen can be found in 
>> anything we do. Or, to be more precise, in any doing. The most intriguing 
>> example Watts (or Blyth) gives is 'riding-a-bicycle Zen'.*
>>
>> I'm curious, does this resonate with others here? What is your experience 
>> of 'riding-a-bicycle Zen'? And, per the 'Buzzy Hubs' thread, does the noise 
>> your hub makes detract from or enhance your 'riding-a-bike Zen' experience? 
>> ;)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> *The reference comes around 1:35:25 in the talk.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 52cm Wilbury (fancy!) frameset, never built, CL outing

I wonder if this was the one sold new from a CT seller and then the new buyer 
tried to flip it. In any case enjoy your new bike.
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 1:43 PM, mgst...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Oh! i see i posted the same thing a year ago...it's STILL a great bike! Hope 
> you enjoy your new one.
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:32:50 PM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Here is my wife's Glorius, same era, custom color -
>> It rides incredibly well - plush, but FAST
>> She's had it since mid 2007
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:24:08 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi J, regarding attaching pictures, the key is to make the file size isn't 
>>> too large. Before attaching photos to my posts, I always resize them to 
>>> something below 1mb.
>>>
>>> Would love to see pictures of the bike when you are able to put them up.
>>>
>>> David
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:38:36 AM UTC-8 J J wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. I thought it would be fun to share the 
 latest about this thread's mysterious subject.

 We bought the frameset in NYC a few months ago from a super nice fellow 
 and brought it to DC.

 It was surreal to behold the light blue frame, as if it had just left the 
 Toyo workshop in 2008. The paint seems to be custom, but who knows?

 I contacted Rivendell for size and component advice. Will was so generous 
 with his time.

 I asked Will to recommend a shop in the greater DC area to build it. An 
 MD-based customer told him to steer us toward Mount Airy Bicycle Company, 
 owned by Larry, a "legend" in the community.

 After talking to Larry, it was a no-brainer. Mount Airy's vast collection 
 of bikes and parts was mind-blowing. They did a superlative job on the 
 build.

 If you ride around DC or NYC, you might run into us — a big green 
 Hunqapillar and this fabulous Wilbury, whose saga continues.

 Not sure how to share pics here. When I try I get a note saying my message 
 is too long.

 J
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[RBW] Re: 52cm Wilbury (fancy!) frameset, never built, CL outing

2022-02-14 Thread mgst...@gmail.com


Oh! i see i posted the same thing a year ago...it's STILL a great bike! 
 Hope you enjoy your new one.
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:32:50 PM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is my wife's Glorius, same era, custom color - 
> It rides incredibly well - plush, but FAST
> She's had it since mid 2007
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:24:08 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi J, regarding attaching pictures, the key is to make the file size 
>> isn't too large.  Before attaching photos to my posts, I always resize them 
>> to something below 1mb.
>>
>> Would love to see pictures of the bike when you are able to put them up.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:38:36 AM UTC-8 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. I thought it would be fun to share 
>>> the latest about this thread's mysterious subject.
>>>
>>> We bought the frameset in NYC a few months ago from a super nice fellow 
>>> and brought it to DC. 
>>>
>>> It was surreal to behold the light blue frame, as if it had just left 
>>> the Toyo workshop in 2008. The paint seems to be custom, but who knows? 
>>>
>>> I contacted Rivendell for size and component advice. Will was so 
>>> generous with his time.
>>>
>>> I asked Will to recommend a shop in the greater DC area to build it. An 
>>> MD-based customer told him to steer us toward Mount Airy Bicycle Company, 
>>> owned by Larry, a "legend" in the community.
>>>
>>> After talking to Larry, it was a no-brainer. Mount Airy's vast 
>>> collection of bikes and parts was mind-blowing. They did a superlative job 
>>> on the build. 
>>>
>>> If you ride around DC or NYC, you might run into us — a big green 
>>> Hunqapillar and this fabulous Wilbury, whose saga continues. 
>>>
>>> Not sure how to share pics here.  When I try I get a note saying my 
>>> message is too long.
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

Just measured my 2015 Hillborne and it has a 6 degree slope.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:26:51 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:

> Jon asked that I post this for him since he is new and being moderated, so 
> his replies don't post immediately.
>
> "Well, since I am new to the group and still being moderated, this will 
> probably not get posted until long after everyone has laughed at me for the 
> question, but: I realised after posting that the information on 
> bikeinsights, specifically the top tube angle, had been computed from a 
> mis-entered top tube length of 60 *mm* instead of 60 cm!! That's where the 
> 12 degrees surely comes from. I made the post over a week ago, and realised 
> the source of the mistake the following day and emailed the moderator to 
> request that my post not to forwarded to the list, and I suspect this 
> follow-up will take a couple of weeks to get approved too. Now, since I 
> mentioned the issue on bikeinsights to my dealer, he prodded them and they 
> fixed the top tube length in the data but they did not fix the computed top 
> tube slope, which still says 12 degrees.
> So this is a separate (and mistaken) issue than the updated geometry for 
> the MIT frames since 2018, which I understand. All is well and I expect to 
> take delivery of my 6-degree-slope AHH in a few weeks! (The dealer got the 
> last of the 58-cm frames at RBW when it was announced that dealers may not 
> get deliveries this spring as planned). I've been planning the build, am 
> very excited and will post again when I really am a RBW owner."
>
> Best - Jon in Montreal
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:10:55 AM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I have this protractor ap on my android phone.  It's great for measuring 
>> frame angles:
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.sira.protractor
>>
>> I't would be interesting to know what your bike actually measures out to 
>> - though I agree that the surest thing would be for O.P. Jon to just call 
>> Rivendell and ask.  Also, do I understand that you have a Sam rather than a 
>> Homer?
>>
>> Keith (who is simply curious about understanding design changes over time 
>> but, because he has a Saluki, has no need for a Homer or a Sam of his own.)
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:37:20 AM UTC-7 John G. wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Maybe I can reassure you. I'm also a "level top tube" kind of guy who 
>>> just took delivery of my 2021 Homer Complete. I had the same second 
>>> thoughts as you when I checked BikeInsights after ordering my Homer. I'm 
>>> right in the middle of the size range for a 58, but I could've scraped by 
>>> on a 61.5. 
>>>
>>> Based on what I'm seeing in front of me in my garage, I'd be very 
>>> surprised if the new Homer's top tube angle is actually 11 degrees. It 
>>> really doesn't look that steep. I think it looks exactly like most of the 
>>> Sams I've seen. The frame in general looks very balanced and composed.
>>>
>>> I absolutely love mine, which I've set up as a brevet bike. The ride 
>>> quality and handling are both outstanding. It's plenty fast, too. I don't 
>>> think I'll ever go back to shorter chainstay Riv after this. I'm a convert.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:18:26 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am 99% certain that both the AHH and Sam have 6 degree TT slope.  
 However, could not hurt to call Riv and discuss.  They are very helpful on 
 the phone, and Grant himself might even be the one picking up the phone.  
 Has happened to me a couple times.

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:40:56 AM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:

> The updated geometry probably isn't noted on the current website 
> because it's actually been in place for a few years--since 2018 at least, 
> since the 2018 print catalog 
> 
>  shows 
> the new geometry. The change to the top tube slope isn't the only change, 
> the biggest other change being longer chainstays, especially the larger 
> sizes. It's part of a general revamp of Rivendell's geometries across the 
> board--the same thing happened with the Atlantis, which along with the 
> Homer is pretty much the only "legacy" model they still make, albeit with 
> a 
> lot of changes.
>
> I, for one, see the reasoning behind the changes (better stability and 
> weight distribution, especially when sitting upright), and would 
> encourage 
> you to give the new geometry a try. At the same time, I own bikes with 
> both 
> the "new" Riv geometry (Clem Smith Jr) and the "classic" Riv geometry 
> (Rambouillet), and can understand that if you were expecting the latter 
> and 
> got the former, how that would be a bit shocking. 
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at

Re: [RBW] Legolas Rackless Dirt Rando build

2022-02-14 Thread Nikko in Oakland

Thanks all 
MoVelo, it's a pearl paint job, not matte. Probably just the light hitting 
it funny. The hub... I don't know. It's the Crust wheelset 

. 
Andrew, good call. I actually should rotate that chain ring 
Greg, thanks. It's serving me well. I just gotta get it trued after 200 or 
so hard miles, but that was expected. 

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 10:24:11 PM UTC-8 Greg J wrote:

> Looks great, Nikko!  A perfect, sensible build - and the wheel set looks 
> familiar :)
>
> See you up in the hills!
> Greg
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 7:30:08 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:
>
>> A stunner!
>> I'm curious about your chainring clocking... Is there a reason the big 
>> ring is oriented the way it is? Isn't the peg on the outside of the ring 
>> supposed to be at the crankarm, to prevent a dropped chain from getting 
>> wedged down in between the arm and ring?
>> cheers,
>> Andrew in Sydney
>>
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022, 04:48:52 PM GMT+11, Nikko Mendoza <
>> nikkog...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Hey y’all,
>>
>> Got this Legolas from a list member here. I had it built very similarly 
>> to the previous owner initially, but made some small changes recently to 
>> differentiate it and I’m really happy with it. 
>>
>> I plan for this to be my gravel bike (loose segments are hard still). But 
>> I can throw the matching 38mm Barlow Pass tire on the front and have a 
>> plush rackless road rando rig. I have a bag coming in for that exact 
>> purpose. 
>>
>> Here it is.
>> Album here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/M7EahK87ixkGdN1D7
>>
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[RBW] Re: Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

Jon asked that I post this for him since he is new and being moderated, so 
his replies don't post immediately.

"Well, since I am new to the group and still being moderated, this will 
probably not get posted until long after everyone has laughed at me for the 
question, but: I realised after posting that the information on 
bikeinsights, specifically the top tube angle, had been computed from a 
mis-entered top tube length of 60 *mm* instead of 60 cm!! That's where the 
12 degrees surely comes from. I made the post over a week ago, and realised 
the source of the mistake the following day and emailed the moderator to 
request that my post not to forwarded to the list, and I suspect this 
follow-up will take a couple of weeks to get approved too. Now, since I 
mentioned the issue on bikeinsights to my dealer, he prodded them and they 
fixed the top tube length in the data but they did not fix the computed top 
tube slope, which still says 12 degrees.
So this is a separate (and mistaken) issue than the updated geometry for 
the MIT frames since 2018, which I understand. All is well and I expect to 
take delivery of my 6-degree-slope AHH in a few weeks! (The dealer got the 
last of the 58-cm frames at RBW when it was announced that dealers may not 
get deliveries this spring as planned). I've been planning the build, am 
very excited and will post again when I really am a RBW owner."

Best - Jon in Montreal

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:10:55 AM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:

> John,
>
> I have this protractor ap on my android phone.  It's great for measuring 
> frame angles:
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.sira.protractor
>
> I't would be interesting to know what your bike actually measures out to - 
> though I agree that the surest thing would be for O.P. Jon to just call 
> Rivendell and ask.  Also, do I understand that you have a Sam rather than a 
> Homer?
>
> Keith (who is simply curious about understanding design changes over time 
> but, because he has a Saluki, has no need for a Homer or a Sam of his own.)
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:37:20 AM UTC-7 John G. wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Maybe I can reassure you. I'm also a "level top tube" kind of guy who 
>> just took delivery of my 2021 Homer Complete. I had the same second 
>> thoughts as you when I checked BikeInsights after ordering my Homer. I'm 
>> right in the middle of the size range for a 58, but I could've scraped by 
>> on a 61.5. 
>>
>> Based on what I'm seeing in front of me in my garage, I'd be very 
>> surprised if the new Homer's top tube angle is actually 11 degrees. It 
>> really doesn't look that steep. I think it looks exactly like most of the 
>> Sams I've seen. The frame in general looks very balanced and composed.
>>
>> I absolutely love mine, which I've set up as a brevet bike. The ride 
>> quality and handling are both outstanding. It's plenty fast, too. I don't 
>> think I'll ever go back to shorter chainstay Riv after this. I'm a convert.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:18:26 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am 99% certain that both the AHH and Sam have 6 degree TT slope.  
>>> However, could not hurt to call Riv and discuss.  They are very helpful on 
>>> the phone, and Grant himself might even be the one picking up the phone.  
>>> Has happened to me a couple times.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:40:56 AM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:
>>>
 The updated geometry probably isn't noted on the current website 
 because it's actually been in place for a few years--since 2018 at least, 
 since the 2018 print catalog 

  shows 
 the new geometry. The change to the top tube slope isn't the only change, 
 the biggest other change being longer chainstays, especially the larger 
 sizes. It's part of a general revamp of Rivendell's geometries across the 
 board--the same thing happened with the Atlantis, which along with the 
 Homer is pretty much the only "legacy" model they still make, albeit with 
 a 
 lot of changes.

 I, for one, see the reasoning behind the changes (better stability and 
 weight distribution, especially when sitting upright), and would encourage 
 you to give the new geometry a try. At the same time, I own bikes with 
 both 
 the "new" Riv geometry (Clem Smith Jr) and the "classic" Riv geometry 
 (Rambouillet), and can understand that if you were expecting the latter 
 and 
 got the former, how that would be a bit shocking. 

 -Jeremy Till
 Sacramento, CA

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:35:13 AM UTC-8 J. W. wrote:

>
> Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of 
> coveting a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this 
> spring. As I was just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem

Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

Very cool, thank ya both! 

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:32:32 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> At that point I really think it comes down to builds. A SH built up 
> lightish could feel much more nimble and quick than a Gallop with full 
> racks, fenders, heavy tires etc. I agree with Jason that built the same 
> they would likely feel pretty similar.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I can't offer a very good A-B comparison based on their setups, though 
>> they've both been set up with the Wavie bar at one point or another, but my 
>> feel so far is that they're not too different from one another - I noticed 
>> from the attached engineering drawings that the tubing is quite similar 
>> spec, though a bit more flex built into the Charlie, and the angles are 
>> similar also (some math required on the CHG but it's HTA 71 / 71.5 STA). 
>> They both seem to possess that 'surprisingly quick considering it's so 
>> comfortable' quality, but my belief is that it would be marginal gains at 
>> best going from a Sam to a CHG in terms of speed, with the same setup.  
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:48 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gallop riders – Does anyone have a take on the Gallop in contrast to 
>>> an unloaded Hillborne with drops? I know Jason has a Hillborne but racked 
>>> and fendered. Curious how they compare :)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:31:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Killer! I can't wait to see it. Make sure to post it up here when its 
 done.  The extra few mm of height on those mini-v's should be perfect. I 
 have the Box mini's and they cleared a real world 48mm tire with just a 
 touch of clearance. The extra bit of height should allow you to clear 
 50's.  I plan to move to Rivendell V's when they are available only 
 because 
 I love the way they are looking from the early drawings and such.

 On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:17:25 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:

> Johny: yes, my friend was quick on the draw and got it for me because 
> they knew it was my ideal version of a Charlie - gotta have those 
> canti/v-brake posts. It’ll end up replacing my Sam Hillborne. 
>
> Now Charlie’s sitting (ironically with no saddle) in my garage waiting 
> for a few quick changes (replace the C15 narrow saddle with my Flyer 
> imperial, add a rack and basket) before getting some commuter duty and a 
> nice long ride next weekend… then more tinkering and changes to follow 
> like:
> • Mini v-brakes (likely Shimano BR R353 with 90mm arch, taller than 
> the Box Two or Three 85mm mini v’s), 
> • Swapping for my Hillborne’s wheelset (first wheels I built) with 
> G-One Allround 50mm tires
> • Dynamo lights, 
> • 46/30t double crankset to a 11-40t cassette (which may require a 
> wolftooth-like hanger extender), and 
> • Kona Wah Wah pedals. 
>
> Now I just need some spare time for wrenching … but I’ll probably 
> spend that time riding my daughters around in the Rosco Baby bike 
> instead. 
> The highest form of productive procrastination.
>
> Abe
>
> On Friday, 11 February 2022 at 16:51:41 UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Pancake, so you got the third Gallop V1 prototype?
>>
>> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 7:18:18 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> Drop bar Sam checking in per David's request/comment ... soon to be 
>>> replaced by another Proto Charlie (photos of that orange 57cm to come 
>>> later).
>>> [image: IMG_3134.JPG]
>>> [image: IMG_7170.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

2022-02-14 Thread iamkeith

John,

I have this protractor ap on my android phone.  It's great for measuring 
frame angles:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.sira.protractor

I't would be interesting to know what your bike actually measures out to - 
though I agree that the surest thing would be for O.P. Jon to just call 
Rivendell and ask.  Also, do I understand that you have a Sam rather than a 
Homer?

Keith (who is simply curious about understanding design changes over time 
but, because he has a Saluki, has no need for a Homer or a Sam of his own.)

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:37:20 AM UTC-7 John G. wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Maybe I can reassure you. I'm also a "level top tube" kind of guy who just 
> took delivery of my 2021 Homer Complete. I had the same second thoughts as 
> you when I checked BikeInsights after ordering my Homer. I'm right in the 
> middle of the size range for a 58, but I could've scraped by on a 61.5. 
>
> Based on what I'm seeing in front of me in my garage, I'd be very 
> surprised if the new Homer's top tube angle is actually 11 degrees. It 
> really doesn't look that steep. I think it looks exactly like most of the 
> Sams I've seen. The frame in general looks very balanced and composed.
>
> I absolutely love mine, which I've set up as a brevet bike. The ride 
> quality and handling are both outstanding. It's plenty fast, too. I don't 
> think I'll ever go back to shorter chainstay Riv after this. I'm a convert.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:18:26 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I am 99% certain that both the AHH and Sam have 6 degree TT slope.  
>> However, could not hurt to call Riv and discuss.  They are very helpful on 
>> the phone, and Grant himself might even be the one picking up the phone.  
>> Has happened to me a couple times.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:40:56 AM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:
>>
>>> The updated geometry probably isn't noted on the current website because 
>>> it's actually been in place for a few years--since 2018 at least, since the 
>>> 2018 
>>> print catalog 
>>> 
>>>  shows 
>>> the new geometry. The change to the top tube slope isn't the only change, 
>>> the biggest other change being longer chainstays, especially the larger 
>>> sizes. It's part of a general revamp of Rivendell's geometries across the 
>>> board--the same thing happened with the Atlantis, which along with the 
>>> Homer is pretty much the only "legacy" model they still make, albeit with a 
>>> lot of changes.
>>>
>>> I, for one, see the reasoning behind the changes (better stability and 
>>> weight distribution, especially when sitting upright), and would encourage 
>>> you to give the new geometry a try. At the same time, I own bikes with both 
>>> the "new" Riv geometry (Clem Smith Jr) and the "classic" Riv geometry 
>>> (Rambouillet), and can understand that if you were expecting the latter and 
>>> got the former, how that would be a bit shocking. 
>>>
>>> -Jeremy Till
>>> Sacramento, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:35:13 AM UTC-8 J. W. wrote:
>>>

 Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of 
 coveting a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this 
 spring. As I was just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the 
 right length ready for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a 
 considerably steeper slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, 
 compared to 6, if bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I 
 hadn't realised there would be such a difference, and I hadn't read 
 anything about any big changes (I know they posted the measurements, and 
 it's on me for not doing due diligence, but I would have thought such a 
 big 
 change would have warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their 
 thinking on why, and perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual 
 reference for what I had to look forward to is now out of date and of 
 course I'm second-guessing myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam 
 instead -- I'm mostly a one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which 
 I've ridden for a long time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees 
 was already a big step for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of 
 people's builds I came to see the slight slope as a good thing and I 
 embraced my 6-degree-slopey future, step boldly into the future etc.

 Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam 
 have exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in 
 profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and 
 forth 
 between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to 
 identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 
 geometry. 
 So what's

[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-14 Thread Jared Wilson

I appreciate the sentiment of this topic and am now on the hunt at local 
book shops for a couple different titles.

The Stanford Baccalaureate speech has been replayed a handful of times 
already, so thanks for that Erik.

I'd also like to throw into the ring The Pocket Thich Nhat Hahn 
, this 
compact book covers the basics and fits in just about anywhere with ease, 
including your saddlebag.

It's covers the basics and is very palatable, 10/10 worth keeping a copy 
around.

Best,
Jared


On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:26:41 AM UTC-8 robkr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Erik,
> +1 on thanks for your thorough response. 
>
> We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough about 
> the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting this 
> thread. 
>
> Rob K. in MA
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the 
>> most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this 
>> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
>>> posts get pulled!"
>>>
>>> Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to unexpected 
>>> places. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>>
 The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot of 
 people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of talks by 
 Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
 book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
 over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there are 
 many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  

 A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
 - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a few 
 years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a fantastic 
 writer and teacher.  
 -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of the 
 original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great 
 reflection 
 of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me for writing 
 these 
 lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for living too much 
 in my head.  :)

 If you want to hear / watch a talk, I always like to recommend this one 
 because it was written for a lay audience and connects the principles of 
 Zen with ordinary life.  It's Zoketsu Norman Fischer giving the graduation 
 speech at Stanford in 2014.  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9p__BHHDs

 And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
 posts get pulled!
   

 On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:48:17 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I'm learning so much here - is there an equivalent of Grant's "Just 
> Ride" for Zen?
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:08:51 AM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> What a pleasure it was to read of your experience, Erik! Much of what 
>> you wrote resonates deeply with me. Perhaps this is because we share 
>> something of a history with San Francisco Zen Center and a particular 
>> approach to both Zen and riding a bike. 
>>
>> My formative experiences with Zen occurred when I lived in the City 
>> in the late 80s/early 90s and sat at the Zen center regularly during 
>> this 
>> time. This and S.Suzuki's 'beginner's mind' approach to Zen flavored my 
>> view of the practice as a way to "engage with every activity with the 
>> same 
>> energy as you do your sitting". I was a runner at the time, and my early 
>> morning runs to the Zen center from my 16th/Guerrero place and home 
>> again 
>> were a way to extend the practice beyond the zendo.
>>
>> Your description of your ride today puts into words so clearly my own 
>> experiences on rides that challenge me, and how I return to my breathing 
>> as 
>> a method of focusing on the ways in which my body reacts to a tough 
>> hill, 
>> frozen hands, thirst, or fatigue. There always seems to be another pedal 
>> stroke at the bottom of that gaze. And, when the riding is easy, as I 
>> mentioned above, breathing is a wonderful way to bring my attention to 
>> the 
>> moment where brendanoid's 'constant birdsong' echos across Phillip's 
>> 'gritty industrial streets' as my wheels spin effortlessly. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:07:55 PM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting thread.  I've been involved with

[RBW] Re: Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

2022-02-14 Thread John G.

Hi there,

Maybe I can reassure you. I'm also a "level top tube" kind of guy who just 
took delivery of my 2021 Homer Complete. I had the same second thoughts as 
you when I checked BikeInsights after ordering my Homer. I'm right in the 
middle of the size range for a 58, but I could've scraped by on a 61.5. 

Based on what I'm seeing in front of me in my garage, I'd be very surprised 
if the new Homer's top tube angle is actually 11 degrees. It really doesn't 
look that steep. I think it looks exactly like most of the Sams I've seen. 
The frame in general looks very balanced and composed.

I absolutely love mine, which I've set up as a brevet bike. The ride 
quality and handling are both outstanding. It's plenty fast, too. I don't 
think I'll ever go back to shorter chainstay Riv after this. I'm a convert.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:18:26 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am 99% certain that both the AHH and Sam have 6 degree TT slope.  
> However, could not hurt to call Riv and discuss.  They are very helpful on 
> the phone, and Grant himself might even be the one picking up the phone.  
> Has happened to me a couple times.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:40:56 AM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:
>
>> The updated geometry probably isn't noted on the current website because 
>> it's actually been in place for a few years--since 2018 at least, since the 
>> 2018 
>> print catalog 
>> 
>>  shows 
>> the new geometry. The change to the top tube slope isn't the only change, 
>> the biggest other change being longer chainstays, especially the larger 
>> sizes. It's part of a general revamp of Rivendell's geometries across the 
>> board--the same thing happened with the Atlantis, which along with the 
>> Homer is pretty much the only "legacy" model they still make, albeit with a 
>> lot of changes.
>>
>> I, for one, see the reasoning behind the changes (better stability and 
>> weight distribution, especially when sitting upright), and would encourage 
>> you to give the new geometry a try. At the same time, I own bikes with both 
>> the "new" Riv geometry (Clem Smith Jr) and the "classic" Riv geometry 
>> (Rambouillet), and can understand that if you were expecting the latter and 
>> got the former, how that would be a bit shocking. 
>>
>> -Jeremy Till
>> Sacramento, CA
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:35:13 AM UTC-8 J. W. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of 
>>> coveting a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this 
>>> spring. As I was just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the 
>>> right length ready for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a 
>>> considerably steeper slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, 
>>> compared to 6, if bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I 
>>> hadn't realised there would be such a difference, and I hadn't read 
>>> anything about any big changes (I know they posted the measurements, and 
>>> it's on me for not doing due diligence, but I would have thought such a big 
>>> change would have warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their 
>>> thinking on why, and perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual 
>>> reference for what I had to look forward to is now out of date and of 
>>> course I'm second-guessing myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam 
>>> instead -- I'm mostly a one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which 
>>> I've ridden for a long time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees 
>>> was already a big step for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of 
>>> people's builds I came to see the slight slope as a good thing and I 
>>> embraced my 6-degree-slopey future, step boldly into the future etc.
>>>
>>> Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam 
>>> have exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in 
>>> profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and forth 
>>> between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to 
>>> identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 geometry. 
>>> So what's going on? If the stack has been increased by as much as the 
>>> dimensions in the chart say, there's no way that those photos represent the 
>>> 2021 geometry accurately. I don't know what to do now! 
>>>
>>> What do you think? 
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

At that point I really think it comes down to builds. A SH built up 
lightish could feel much more nimble and quick than a Gallop with full 
racks, fenders, heavy tires etc. I agree with Jason that built the same 
they would likely feel pretty similar.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:22:18 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I can't offer a very good A-B comparison based on their setups, though 
> they've both been set up with the Wavie bar at one point or another, but my 
> feel so far is that they're not too different from one another - I noticed 
> from the attached engineering drawings that the tubing is quite similar 
> spec, though a bit more flex built into the Charlie, and the angles are 
> similar also (some math required on the CHG but it's HTA 71 / 71.5 STA). 
> They both seem to possess that 'surprisingly quick considering it's so 
> comfortable' quality, but my belief is that it would be marginal gains at 
> best going from a Sam to a CHG in terms of speed, with the same setup.  
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:48 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Hi Gallop riders – Does anyone have a take on the Gallop in contrast to 
>> an unloaded Hillborne with drops? I know Jason has a Hillborne but racked 
>> and fendered. Curious how they compare :)
>>
>> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:31:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Killer! I can't wait to see it. Make sure to post it up here when its 
>>> done.  The extra few mm of height on those mini-v's should be perfect. I 
>>> have the Box mini's and they cleared a real world 48mm tire with just a 
>>> touch of clearance. The extra bit of height should allow you to clear 
>>> 50's.  I plan to move to Rivendell V's when they are available only because 
>>> I love the way they are looking from the early drawings and such.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:17:25 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 Johny: yes, my friend was quick on the draw and got it for me because 
 they knew it was my ideal version of a Charlie - gotta have those 
 canti/v-brake posts. It’ll end up replacing my Sam Hillborne. 

 Now Charlie’s sitting (ironically with no saddle) in my garage waiting 
 for a few quick changes (replace the C15 narrow saddle with my Flyer 
 imperial, add a rack and basket) before getting some commuter duty and a 
 nice long ride next weekend… then more tinkering and changes to follow 
 like:
 • Mini v-brakes (likely Shimano BR R353 with 90mm arch, taller than the 
 Box Two or Three 85mm mini v’s), 
 • Swapping for my Hillborne’s wheelset (first wheels I built) with 
 G-One Allround 50mm tires
 • Dynamo lights, 
 • 46/30t double crankset to a 11-40t cassette (which may require a 
 wolftooth-like hanger extender), and 
 • Kona Wah Wah pedals. 

 Now I just need some spare time for wrenching … but I’ll probably spend 
 that time riding my daughters around in the Rosco Baby bike instead. The 
 highest form of productive procrastination.

 Abe

 On Friday, 11 February 2022 at 16:51:41 UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Pancake, so you got the third Gallop V1 prototype?
>
> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 7:18:18 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>
>> Drop bar Sam checking in per David's request/comment ... soon to be 
>> replaced by another Proto Charlie (photos of that orange 57cm to come 
>> later).
>> [image: IMG_3134.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_7170.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Free for postage: Target plimsolls.

2022-02-14 Thread RichS

Hello Patrick,

Glad you found an improved solution for your clip pedals. My Adidas 
5-10s are comfortable but too wide for clips/straps. I've been searching 
for a shoe with less width and noticed Specialized 2FOs also come in a flat 
sole model. Would you consider measuring the widest part of your 2FOs and 
posting the dimension?  At your convenience of course.

Thanks very much for your help!

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:49:21 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Off the beaten path if not off topic, but this morning, intending to ride 
> the Monocog with clips and straps, by mistake I put on my Specialized "2FO" 
> spd shoes instead of the Target plimsolls, which I'd bought for the 
> clips/straps. The 2FOs have a relatively flat bottom with the cleat in a 
> "hole" below the sole and I chose these for standing around and walking 
> more comfortably than in most lugged spd mtb shoes). In a rush and not 
> wanting to change shoes, I rode the 2FOs in the clips and behold, they 
> worked as well the plimsolls, better, in fact, because I didn't even notice 
> the cleats, and they have much thicker and stiffer bottoms, they entered 
> and exited the straps better than the Targets, possibly because the soles 
> are not as soft, because I applied a layer of Shoe Goo to build up the sole 
> each side of the cleats to prevent cleat scratching, which smoothed out the 
> sole in that area, and because the rubber sole "bumper" is less grabby. At 
> any rate, these now will do double duty, SPDs when I want to stand a lot or 
> walk around, and clips and straps for the Monocog.
>
> Free for postage: Little used pair of $19.95 Target plimsolls in tasteful 
> medium gray with white accents, size 10 but fit like an 11 or 11.5 -- they 
> fit my size 44s wih thickish merino sock very nicely with a high quality 
> ortho insert over the OEM insole. Note that I removed the insole.
>
> The color is "grayer" and less dirty looking in person, at least to my 
> eyes.
>
> Send me your address and I'll send you a postage request. And please reply 
> offlist.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 52cm Wilbury (fancy!) frameset, never built, CL outing

Hi J, regarding attaching pictures, the key is to make the file size isn't 
too large.  Before attaching photos to my posts, I always resize them to 
something below 1mb.

Would love to see pictures of the bike when you are able to put them up.

David

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:38:36 AM UTC-8 J J wrote:

> Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. I thought it would be fun to share the 
> latest about this thread's mysterious subject.
>
> We bought the frameset in NYC a few months ago from a super nice fellow 
> and brought it to DC. 
>
> It was surreal to behold the light blue frame, as if it had just left the 
> Toyo workshop in 2008. The paint seems to be custom, but who knows? 
>
> I contacted Rivendell for size and component advice. Will was so generous 
> with his time.
>
> I asked Will to recommend a shop in the greater DC area to build it. An 
> MD-based customer told him to steer us toward Mount Airy Bicycle Company, 
> owned by Larry, a "legend" in the community.
>
> After talking to Larry, it was a no-brainer. Mount Airy's vast collection 
> of bikes and parts was mind-blowing. They did a superlative job on the 
> build. 
>
> If you ride around DC or NYC, you might run into us — a big green 
> Hunqapillar and this fabulous Wilbury, whose saga continues. 
>
> Not sure how to share pics here.  When I try I get a note saying my 
> message is too long.
>
> J
>
>   
>

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[RBW] Re: Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

I am 99% certain that both the AHH and Sam have 6 degree TT slope.  
However, could not hurt to call Riv and discuss.  They are very helpful on 
the phone, and Grant himself might even be the one picking up the phone.  
Has happened to me a couple times.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:40:56 AM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:

> The updated geometry probably isn't noted on the current website because 
> it's actually been in place for a few years--since 2018 at least, since the 
> 2018 
> print catalog 
> 
>  shows 
> the new geometry. The change to the top tube slope isn't the only change, 
> the biggest other change being longer chainstays, especially the larger 
> sizes. It's part of a general revamp of Rivendell's geometries across the 
> board--the same thing happened with the Atlantis, which along with the 
> Homer is pretty much the only "legacy" model they still make, albeit with a 
> lot of changes.
>
> I, for one, see the reasoning behind the changes (better stability and 
> weight distribution, especially when sitting upright), and would encourage 
> you to give the new geometry a try. At the same time, I own bikes with both 
> the "new" Riv geometry (Clem Smith Jr) and the "classic" Riv geometry 
> (Rambouillet), and can understand that if you were expecting the latter and 
> got the former, how that would be a bit shocking. 
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:35:13 AM UTC-8 J. W. wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of coveting 
>> a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this spring. As I 
>> was just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the right length 
>> ready for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a considerably 
>> steeper slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, compared to 6, 
>> if bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I hadn't realised 
>> there would be such a difference, and I hadn't read anything about any big 
>> changes (I know they posted the measurements, and it's on me for not doing 
>> due diligence, but I would have thought such a big change would have 
>> warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their thinking on why, and 
>> perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual reference for what I had to 
>> look forward to is now out of date and of course I'm second-guessing 
>> myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam instead -- I'm mostly a 
>> one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which I've ridden for a long 
>> time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees was already a big step 
>> for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of people's builds I came to 
>> see the slight slope as a good thing and I embraced my 6-degree-slopey 
>> future, step boldly into the future etc.
>>
>> Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam have 
>> exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in 
>> profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and forth 
>> between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to 
>> identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 geometry. 
>> So what's going on? If the stack has been increased by as much as the 
>> dimensions in the chart say, there's no way that those photos represent the 
>> 2021 geometry accurately. I don't know what to do now! 
>>
>> What do you think? 
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bruce Gordon Rear Rack

2022-02-14 Thread Joe Bunik

On 2/12/22, Paul Armijo  wrote:
> Bruce Gordon Rear Rack Pannier Mount 700c 27 in Road Touring Black USA. In
> fantastic Condition. $375 OBO
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[RBW] Re: Shimano V-Brake Mounting Bolts

2022-02-14 Thread RichS

If you want fancy bolts. . .
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/bolts/rene-herse-brake-mounting-bolts/

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:22:09 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> @Garth I dis manage to find one of the bolts and they match what that 
> document says for 2 of the bolts. I would bet that either 16 or 25 would 
> work for either the front or back depending on what I find. That should 
> give me enough info.
>
> @Rob for some reason the internet seems to think that there are Shimano 
> specific bolts. I doubt that is true. The one that I found doesn't look 
> anything like the one you posted as an official Shimano bolt and I know 
> that his one came with the brakes.  Interesting.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:21:46 AM UTC-5 robkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Johnny,
>> Bike shops are out of a lot of things, but I can't imagine they don't 
>> have brake mounting bolts at any local shop. (But then, there's a lot of 
>> things about this latest bike boom I thought I'd never see, so...) I guess 
>> it depends how particular you are about the bolts you get. I'm sure the OEM 
>> bolts Shimano supplies (
>> https://cambriabike.com/products/shimano-xt-m750-739-v-brake-mounting-bolt) 
>> could be a little rarer, but if you just need to mount the brakes, it 
>> should be pretty simple. (These Shimano bolts may be what Garth's link 
>> refers to, but I can't seem to get it to connect).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:05:07 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> The M6 threaded bolts with a shallow or rounded button kind of head. The 
>>> length from Shimano states both 16mm and 25mm, front and rear I suppose. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://si.shimano.com/api/publish/storage/pdf/en/ev/BR-T670/EV-BR-T670-3307.pdf
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:26:22 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I have some Shimano LX V-brakes that I would like to use but realized 
 that I no longer have the mounting bolts. It doesn't look like this is an 
 easy to grab part and I am confused by what people on the internet say 
 works and doesn't work on the internet. Anyone know where to buy what will 
 work?
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

2022-02-14 Thread Damien

I actually went the other way, converting from Albatross to Noodles. With 
the Albas, I had a 12cm stem and bar end shifters (although I think 
thumbies would be better). They felt very upright for me - hence the move 
to Noodles - but I can't figure out whether I just didn't take to the 
sweepback of the Albas, or I was just used to drops. The Noodle setup is 
using 48cm noodles with a 7cm stem, although sometimes I wish it were 5cm 
or 6cm (or I just had compact bars). I'm going to try some SimWorks Fun 3s 
or Nitto Wavies with a 135 faceplater to see if that changes my mind on 
non-drop bars for this bike.

On Monday, 14 February 2022 at 11:28:50 UTC-5 Erik Wright wrote:

> IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my 
> Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the 
> Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It 
> seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to complement 
> the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross predates those 
> bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from drops. I think 
> something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from popping you too 
> upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and have considered 
> a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered with the swap.
>
> Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
> thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
> position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
> bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
> you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
> keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
> shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
> hand position.
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer 
>> depends on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in 
>> which case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a 
>> shorter stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional 
>> sweptback my suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  
>> But it's really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want 
>>> to convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
>>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

2022-02-14 Thread Jeremy Till

The updated geometry probably isn't noted on the current website because 
it's actually been in place for a few years--since 2018 at least, since the 
2018 
print catalog 

 shows 
the new geometry. The change to the top tube slope isn't the only change, 
the biggest other change being longer chainstays, especially the larger 
sizes. It's part of a general revamp of Rivendell's geometries across the 
board--the same thing happened with the Atlantis, which along with the 
Homer is pretty much the only "legacy" model they still make, albeit with a 
lot of changes.

I, for one, see the reasoning behind the changes (better stability and 
weight distribution, especially when sitting upright), and would encourage 
you to give the new geometry a try. At the same time, I own bikes with both 
the "new" Riv geometry (Clem Smith Jr) and the "classic" Riv geometry 
(Rambouillet), and can understand that if you were expecting the latter and 
got the former, how that would be a bit shocking. 

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:35:13 AM UTC-8 J. W. wrote:

>
> Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of coveting 
> a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this spring. As I 
> was just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the right length 
> ready for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a considerably 
> steeper slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, compared to 6, 
> if bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I hadn't realised 
> there would be such a difference, and I hadn't read anything about any big 
> changes (I know they posted the measurements, and it's on me for not doing 
> due diligence, but I would have thought such a big change would have 
> warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their thinking on why, and 
> perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual reference for what I had to 
> look forward to is now out of date and of course I'm second-guessing 
> myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam instead -- I'm mostly a 
> one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which I've ridden for a long 
> time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees was already a big step 
> for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of people's builds I came to 
> see the slight slope as a good thing and I embraced my 6-degree-slopey 
> future, step boldly into the future etc.
>
> Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam have 
> exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in 
> profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and forth 
> between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to 
> identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 geometry. 
> So what's going on? If the stack has been increased by as much as the 
> dimensions in the chart say, there's no way that those photos represent the 
> 2021 geometry accurately. I don't know what to do now! 
>
> What do you think? 
>
> Jon
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

2022-02-14 Thread Erik Wright

IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my 
Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the 
Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It 
seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to complement 
the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross predates those 
bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from drops. I think 
something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from popping you too 
upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and have considered 
a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered with the swap.

Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
hand position.

Erik, Philly

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer depends 
> on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in which 
> case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a shorter 
> stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional sweptback my 
> suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  But it's 
> really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want to 
>> convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shimano V-Brake Mounting Bolts

@Garth I dis manage to find one of the bolts and they match what that 
document says for 2 of the bolts. I would bet that either 16 or 25 would 
work for either the front or back depending on what I find. That should 
give me enough info.

@Rob for some reason the internet seems to think that there are Shimano 
specific bolts. I doubt that is true. The one that I found doesn't look 
anything like the one you posted as an official Shimano bolt and I know 
that his one came with the brakes.  Interesting.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:21:46 AM UTC-5 robkr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Johnny,
> Bike shops are out of a lot of things, but I can't imagine they don't have 
> brake mounting bolts at any local shop. (But then, there's a lot of things 
> about this latest bike boom I thought I'd never see, so...) I guess it 
> depends how particular you are about the bolts you get. I'm sure the OEM 
> bolts Shimano supplies (
> https://cambriabike.com/products/shimano-xt-m750-739-v-brake-mounting-bolt) 
> could be a little rarer, but if you just need to mount the brakes, it 
> should be pretty simple. (These Shimano bolts may be what Garth's link 
> refers to, but I can't seem to get it to connect).
>
> Rob
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:05:07 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> The M6 threaded bolts with a shallow or rounded button kind of head. The 
>> length from Shimano states both 16mm and 25mm, front and rear I suppose. 
>>
>>
>> https://si.shimano.com/api/publish/storage/pdf/en/ev/BR-T670/EV-BR-T670-3307.pdf
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:26:22 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I have some Shimano LX V-brakes that I would like to use but realized 
>>> that I no longer have the mounting bolts. It doesn't look like this is an 
>>> easy to grab part and I am confused by what people on the internet say 
>>> works and doesn't work on the internet. Anyone know where to buy what will 
>>> work?
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell/Duluth Baggins Saddle Bag, NOS

2022-02-14 Thread Joe Mullins

Just sent you a PM!

Thanks,
Joe

> On Feb 14, 2022, at 7:40 AM, John Cully  wrote:
> 
> Khaki color (like Filson Khaki), brass hardware, bridle leather straps and 
> trim. New, never used. Some patina (beausage?) on the brass from storage. 
> Happy to send pics. Really a beautiful bag. Asking $90 shipped/obo. Thanks! 
> JC 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer depends 
on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in which 
case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a shorter 
stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional sweptback my 
suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  But it's 
really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want to 
> convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>

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[RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

I am so shocked that's still available.

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum wrote:

> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously tempted 
> to inquire about that Glorius. 
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about Lyle's 
>> Rambouillet quite a lot. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
 Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 

 https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/

 *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn find!”I’ve 
 been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene Herse covered in 
 cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather than die waiting I 
 decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots of international 
 eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling and head scratching 
 transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my French barn 
 find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find myself 
 needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has taken me 
 across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a daily 
 driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the juicy 
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[RBW] Speaking of handlebars.., Tosco

2022-02-14 Thread Richard Rose

Is anyone else running the 650 width Tosco? My Clem came with this 
beautiful beast of a handlebar (thanks Andrew!) and I was worried about the 
width but I just love it. I do not know what I was worried about as my 
other bikes have bars that are even wider. I was not even aware that the 
Tosco's were all ChroMo until I got it. It is pretty heavy but the little 
bit of flex is great. It seems a perfect match to the FacePlater stem - it 
does not budge.

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[RBW] Re: FS :: Wool bike clothing Ibex Woolistic + other [long]

2022-02-14 Thread 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch

Hi Dave, just sent you a PM about the blue woolistic jersey.
Thanks!

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:35 AM UTC-5 David Hallerman wrote:

> Hi. A combination of downsizing and inadvertent weight loss over the past 
> few years (for reasons neither bad nor good), on top of my huge love of 
> Ibex clothing (I believe purchases by me and my wife were often cited at 
> their annual board meetings), means some really nice wool men’s clothing 
> for sale today. Also some Woolistic jerseys, knickers, Pearl Izumi arm & 
> leg warmers, and…well, please look below.
>
> Sizing help: The 15 items are nominally size medium or large, and most 
> actually are. I’m 5’10” and now about 145 lbs. and when pieces like the sky 
> blue wool jersey fit me in a relaxed but not loose way, “club fit” it’s 
> often called, I was about 165 lbs.
>
> Quick note about condition. New is tried on, never worn. Near-new was worn 
> only about a handful of times. And excellent was worn more than that. But 
> all these pieces are free of holes and stains and fading, which would be 
> less than excellent.
>
> Wool fashion pictures, click here (
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/CpEBxFJsa5ta3SzY8) and all non-fashion 
> questions quickly answered. As before, prices cover shipping if buyers 
> cover the Paypal fee. Thanks for looking!
>
> Dave, who welcomes questions about specific dimensions especially for 
> some odd pieces but for now wanted to gather the photos write up the notes 
> and post the items
> ==
> Hudson Valley NY
>
> *Notes following. Photos here:*
> *https://photos.app.goo.gl/CpEBxFJsa5ta3SzY8 
> *
>
> 1.   Ibex Climawool hooded jacket, grey M, near-new = $165
> 2.   Ibex Loden wool coat, charcoal M, near-new = $235
> 3.   SportHill XC winter pants, black M, near-new = $75
> 4.   Woolistic/Bouré long-sleeve jersey, red/black L, exc. = $53
> 5.   Los Angeles wool knickers, black 34, NEW = $85
> 6.   Pearl Izumi arm warmers, black L, near-new = $21
> 7.   Ibex bouclé wool jacket, black M, exc. = $75
> 8.   Pr’Ana cotton/spandex (2%) knickers, brown L, exc. = $35
> 9.   Woolistic/Bouré long-sleeve jersey, sky blue L, exc. = $68
> 10.   Woolistic Molteni long-sleeve sweater jersey, rust/black M, NEW = 
> $155
> 11.   Ibex wool sweater/layer, charcoal M, near-new = $45
> 12.   Pearl Izumi leg warmers, black L, near-new = $27
> 13.   Ibex bouclé wool sweater/layer, charcoal M, near-new = $110
> 14.   Unis-Sport short-sleeve summer wool, white/red L, NEW = $58
> 15.   Ibex bouclé wool sweater/layer, black M, exc. = $80
>
> *NOTES*
> *All wool items washed only cold water, Kookaburra detergent.*
> 1.   Ibex Climawool makes for a nicely wind-resistant top layer.
> 2.   Ibex Loden is very heavy wool, will last you forever. Easy to layer 
> under.
> 3.   SportHill pants fit like a medium should. If I liked winter sports 
> more, I’d keep ‘em.
> 4.   This red wool jersey is a richer red than the photos show 
> 5.   No brand markings on the elegant Los Angeles wool knickers with satin 
> lining, styled like dress pants, but I remember it’s from an LA company. 
> They’re a real 34; I’m not.
> 6.   PI arm warmers, classic.
> 7.   Ibex bouclé offers that extra warmth from the looped, curled yarn.
> 8.   Pr’Ana knickers, while marked size large, fit more like a 34 (aka, 
> medium).
> 9.   The bright simplicity of this sky blue Woolistic jersey is peak 
> cycling fashion in my eyes.
> 10.   Woolistic made this particular brand-new Molteni sweater jersey so 
> that it’s a bit small for the size medium it’s marked, a bit short and a 
> bit tight on me.
> 11.   An Ibex wool garment with thin wool great for layering.
> 12.   PI leg warmers, also classic.
> 13.   This bouclé wool Ibex sweater is heavier weight than #7.
> 14.   Unis-Sport (which I believe was connected with Woolistic) made this 
> delightful, super-lightweight, 100% wool Faema-sponsored garment. Wear it 
> in summer!
> 15.   The black bouclé Ibex sweater brother of #13.
>
> ==
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[RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

2022-02-14 Thread Caroline Golum

I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously tempted 
to inquire about that Glorius. 

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about Lyle's 
> Rambouillet quite a lot. 
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
>>> Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 
>>>
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn find!”I’ve 
>>> been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene Herse covered in 
>>> cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather than die waiting I 
>>> decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots of international 
>>> eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling and head scratching 
>>> transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my French barn 
>>> find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find myself 
>>> needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has taken me 
>>> across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a daily 
>>> driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the juicy 
>>> detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my profile.*
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.31.41 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 
>>> 2022-01-28 at 8.32.20 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.28 
>>> AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.45 AM.png]
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell/Duluth Baggins Saddle Bag, NOS

2022-02-14 Thread John Cully

Khaki color (like Filson Khaki), brass hardware, bridle leather straps and 
trim. New, never used. Some patina (beausage?) on the brass from storage. Happy 
to send pics. Really a beautiful bag. Asking $90 shipped/obo. Thanks! JC 


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[RBW] FS :: Wool bike clothing Ibex Woolistic + other [long]

2022-02-14 Thread David Hallerman

Hi. A combination of downsizing and inadvertent weight loss over the
past few years (for reasons neither bad nor good), on top of my huge
love of Ibex clothing (I believe purchases by me and my wife were often
cited at their annual board meetings), means some really nice wool men’s
clothing for sale today. Also some Woolistic jerseys, knickers, Pearl
Izumi arm & leg warmers, and…well, please look below.

Sizing help: The 15 items are nominally size medium or large, and most
actually are. I’m 5’10” and now about 145 lbs. and when pieces like the
sky blue wool jersey fit me in a relaxed but not loose way, “club fit”
it’s often called, I was about 165 lbs.

Quick note about condition. New is tried on, never worn. Near-new was
worn only about a handful of times. And excellent was worn more than
that. But all these pieces are free of holes and stains and fading,
which would be less than excellent.

Wool fashion pictures, click here
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/CpEBxFJsa5ta3SzY8) and all non-fashion
questions quickly answered. As before, prices cover shipping if buyers
cover the Paypal fee. Thanks for looking!

Dave, who welcomes questions about specific dimensions especially for
some odd pieces but for now wanted to gather the photos write up the
notes and post the items

==
Hudson Valley NY

/Notes following. Photos here://
//https://photos.app.goo.gl/CpEBxFJsa5ta3SzY8/

1. Ibex Climawool hooded jacket, grey M, near-new = $165
2. Ibex Loden wool coat, charcoal M, near-new = $235
3. SportHill XC winter pants, black M, near-new = $75
4. Woolistic/Bouré long-sleeve jersey, red/black L, exc. = $53
5. Los Angeles wool knickers, black 34, NEW = $85
6. Pearl Izumi arm warmers, black L, near-new = $21
7. Ibex bouclé wool jacket, black M, exc. = $75
8. Pr’Ana cotton/spandex (2%) knickers, brown L, exc. = $35
9. Woolistic/Bouré long-sleeve jersey, sky blue L, exc. = $68
10. Woolistic Molteni long-sleeve sweater jersey, rust/black M, NEW = $155
11. Ibex wool sweater/layer, charcoal M, near-new = $45
12. Pearl Izumi leg warmers, black L, near-new = $27
13. Ibex bouclé wool sweater/layer, charcoal M, near-new = $110
14. Unis-Sport short-sleeve summer wool, white/red L, NEW = $58
15. Ibex bouclé wool sweater/layer, black M, exc. = $80

_*NOTES*_
/All wool items washed only cold water, Kookaburra detergent./
1. Ibex Climawool makes for a nicely wind-resistant top layer.
2. Ibex Loden is very heavy wool, will last you forever. Easy to layer
under.
3. SportHill pants fit like a medium should. If I liked winter sports
more, I’d keep ‘em.

4. This red wool jersey is a richer red than the photos show
5. No brand markings on the elegant Los Angeles wool knickers with
satin lining, styled like dress pants, but I remember it’s from an LA
company. They’re a real 34; I’m not.

6. PI arm warmers, classic.
7. Ibex bouclé offers that extra warmth from the looped, curled yarn.
8. Pr’Ana knickers, while marked size large, fit more like a 34 (aka,
medium).
9. The bright simplicity of this sky blue Woolistic jersey is peak
cycling fashion in my eyes.
10. Woolistic made this particular brand-new Molteni sweater jersey so
that it’s a bit small for the size medium it’s marked, a bit short and a
bit tight on me.

11. An Ibex wool garment with thin wool great for layering.
12. PI leg warmers, also classic.
13. This bouclé wool Ibex sweater is heavier weight than #7.
14. Unis-Sport (which I believe was connected with Woolistic) made
this delightful, super-lightweight, 100% wool Faema-sponsored garment.
Wear it in summer!

15. The black bouclé Ibex sweater brother of #13.

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Re: [RBW] ISO: 60 cm Platypus OR Cheviot

2022-02-14 Thread katherine Evanskbe

Thank you so much Leah! I’m thrilled!! 

Kathie

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> On Feb 11, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> We found her a 60 Cheviot, friends. Thank you so much for your help. Anyone 
> else needs a Rivendell mixte, message me! It’s my new thing.
> 
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:20:19 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Johnny, yes, you are right. I mentioned that option to her as well. That 
>> bike would likely work if she could only be sure she was getting one - I 
>> think they are available in a very limited quantity, yes? I can’t recall why 
>> I think so, but I thought somewhere I read that there were few - maybe 25? 
>> And there seems to be enthusiasm for them; might make it hard to obtain one.
>> 
>> And you are also correct about the Cheviot - that bike seems to be a keeper 
>> bike. So rarely do I see them for sale. Mom has a sweet little 50 cm Cheviot 
>> in “sea foam” (actually light sage) and her neighbor asked to ride it one 
>> day. This neighbor had been off the bike for decades, but at one time in her 
>> life she rode coast to coast in the US. When she tried out Mom’s Cheviot she 
>> was blown away and told her husband, “Jim, I just have to have one.” When 
>> Mom went on vacation she came home to her guilty neighbor who admitted she 
>> had been riding the Cheviot in Mom’s absence (which Mom thought was funny). 
>> In North Dakota this is not stealing. Our Neighbor-Thief got the last 
>> mermaid Platypus at Analog last summer and has been over the moon with it. 
>> Now they each have a Rivendell mixte and can live harmoniously.
>> 
>> Joe - I did note that Jared may sell his Cheviot. How long until those 
>> Susies get here, huh? 
>> 
 On Feb 9, 2022, at 8:47 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
 
>>> The Rosco Plats are coming really soon. Sure they aren't quite as fancy 
>>> and lugged but they will ride just as nice. Like a Rivendell. The 
>>> description says they have slightly heavier tubes but that they aren't 
>>> Clems and should still be ridden the way you ride a Platy.  Just a thought. 
>>> Finding a 60cm Platypus or Cheviot could be tough. Oddly I haven't seen a 
>>> Cheviot for sale for quite awhile now.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 8:09:12 AM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 As he mentioned in my thread where I’m asking for help to find an elusive 
 Rosco Bubbe “Medium Mountain Mixte”, Jared Wilson will likely have a 60cm 
 Cheviot available after the Susies’ land. Maybe he can help! And PS…I’m 
 still looking for an Rosco MMM! 
 
 Joe
 
>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 3:55 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> No, not for me. I got limits!
 
> 
> A RivSister is doing a long-distance ride this summer and would love a 
> Platypus. She is long-legged and needs a 60 cm. I know the odds she’s up 
> against for finding one. But spring is around the corner, and there might 
> be someone who wants to kick out a Platypus to make room for a shiny new 
> bike.
> 
> If not a Platypus, how about a Cheviot? Does anyone have a 60 Cheviot 
> they would be willing to part with? 
> 
> Since I’m never buying another bike for myself ever again, this is pretty 
> fun. Mixte match-making. I could make something out of this…
> Leah
 
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[RBW] Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

2022-02-14 Thread Randall Rupp


I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want to 
convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?

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[RBW] Re: Heterodoxy — reconciling RBW with the mainstream

2022-02-14 Thread Jeffrey Arita

Jay,

My wife and I spent some time this past fall in Colorado, New Mexico and 
Northern AZ.  We drove a car and took our bikes (all rigid, adventure and 
gravel bikes).  Riding some of the singletrack trails in Colorado, we got 
an abrupt wake-up call - many of the sections were, for us, very technical 
vs. what we were used to on rigid bikes.  Most of the locals were looking 
at us funny, as they were on full suspension rigs.  Sure, trail knowledge 
and experience are crucial, but having that technology sure helps.  The AZT 
and CT can be brutal.

Upon our return in late 2021, we got my wife a full suspension mountain 
bike for her birthday.  It is night and day the type of terrain one can 
ride (in comfort *and *control).  So, yes, different tools for different 
terrain.  We've had or still have Rivs (AHH, BF, Ram) along with a CF full 
suspension, adventure (Fargos), steel tandems and randonneurs.  Nothing 
wrong with applying different tools for specific situations.  I'm thinking 
as long as one is having a good time, it can't be wrong. 

Best regards,

Jeff & Lori
Claremont, CA

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:49:11 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:

> My wife and I are spending a week in northern AZ, which included a day of 
> mountain biking in Sedona. We rented fancy dual-suspension, carbon fiber 
> wonderbikes which are about as anti-Riv as you can get — and it was a 
> fantastic experience! I’ve never ridden such a beast before, and was amazed 
> at the terrain it could handle in the hands of a newcomer to this style of 
> riding. It’s the most fun I’ve had on a bike in years.
>
> I had a Gus in my shopping cart when they were last on sale, but 
> ultimately didn’t go through with the purchase because I want to be free to 
> experiment with builds that depart from the Riv way of doing things, such 
> as IGHs and disc brakes. And now I’m doubly glad I held off, because I am 
> giving serious consideration to buying a fully modern mountain bike.
>
> In retrospect I think I gave too much credence to the idea of underbiking. 
> There’s no way I could have handled this sort of terrain on a Riv-style 
> bike — I would have been walking it the entire time. And while that may be 
> the lowest common gear, as a former commenter here liked to say, it 
> wouldn’t have been nearly as fun.
>
> So I guess this is part confession and part query — who else mixes and 
> matches their Rivendells with the sort of modern ironmongery that would 
> give Grant & Co. conniptions? 
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA (but temporarily in Sedona, AZ)
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[RBW] Re: 52cm Wilbury (fancy!) frameset, never built, CL outing

2022-02-14 Thread J J

Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. I thought it would be fun to share the 
latest about this thread's mysterious subject.

We bought the frameset in NYC a few months ago from a super nice fellow and 
brought it to DC. 

It was surreal to behold the light blue frame, as if it had just left the 
Toyo workshop in 2008. The paint seems to be custom, but who knows? 

I contacted Rivendell for size and component advice. Will was so generous 
with his time.

I asked Will to recommend a shop in the greater DC area to build it. An 
MD-based customer told him to steer us toward Mount Airy Bicycle Company, 
owned by Larry, a "legend" in the community.

After talking to Larry, it was a no-brainer. Mount Airy's vast collection 
of bikes and parts was mind-blowing. They did a superlative job on the 
build. 

If you ride around DC or NYC, you might run into us — a big green 
Hunqapillar and this fabulous Wilbury, whose saga continues. 

Not sure how to share pics here.  When I try I get a note saying my message 
is too long.

J

  

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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

2022-02-14 Thread Jeffrey Arita

What's with all the hubbub, bub?  (badda bing).

I like both - based on that bike's needs - the WI hubs on our adventure 
bikes kept the bears on Def-Con 4 ;)

Ha!  Now, back to our regular programming

Jeff
Claremont, CA

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> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>
> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
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Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rambouillet or Sam Hillborne

2022-02-14 Thread bob saunders

Still on the hunt and based on your comments, sounds like I should hunt for 
a 62cm Ram…thanks folks. This time, prefer a frame/fork/hs.

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 9:09:37 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> Here's a 61 Sam Hillborne:
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillbourne/7341501214.html
>
>
>
> On May 26, 2021, at 8:57 PM, bob saunders  wrote:
>
> Jimmy...both frames have level top tubes and my saddle height is 79cm.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:20:20 PM UTC-4 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>
>> That's interesting, because the Rambouillet TT is also 60 cm. Whatever 
>> your handlebar height is on the Poprad and JPWeigle, for the same stem, I'd 
>> have to think it'll be a lot higher with a 64 cm Ram. In addition to it 
>> being a bigger frame, Rams bring the handlebar up compared to level top 
>> tubes by virtue of that 2 degree TT rise. Also, the head tube lug is 
>> vertically extended, which adds even more height. Do the Poprad and 
>> JPWeigle have level top tubes? Also, do you know your preferred saddle 
>> height. Saddle height can be a great indicator of a Riv that fits.
>>
>> Mine is 81 cm, and a 64 cm Ram is almost just right for me. 65 cm is 
>> probably my ideal, but they never made that.
>>
>> And my best size for a 6 degree Riv is 61.5 cm.
>>
>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 3:40 PM bob saunders  wrote:
>>
>>> Wow...thanks for the help as it sounds like I need to do some homework. 
>>> I have an offer of a 64cm Ram, but I am trying to equate the geometry to my 
>>> other bikes...a 59cm Lemond Poprad and a 57.5 x 60 JPWeigle roadie. The 
>>> Weigle’s top tube length is a better fit for me on longer rides.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 5:29:19 PM UTC-4 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>>
 Ram: 2 degrees of TT upslope
 Sam: 6 degrees of TT upslope

 At that frame size, every one degree adds 1 cm of head tube height. So 
 on paper, the handlebar height of a 60 cm Sam is about the same as a 64 cm 
 Ram.

 The "new" sizing regime of Rivs with the 6 degrees of TT upslope was 
 new around when the Sams were introduced, maybe 13 years ago? Bombadil was 
 also the new bike bike around that time that pioneered the new greater TT 
 angle.

 Before that, the models tended to be around 2 degrees. Ram was never 
 made again after the "expanded" frame geometry was unleashed, so Rams are 
 all 2 degrees. (AHH's, on the other hand, have come in both styles, 
 depending on when made. And logic says the same is true of Atlantis, 
 although in the old days, the Atlantis was a wild one with 2.5 degrees (!) 
 of TT upslope. For AHH and Atlantis, the switch to Made In Taiwan is also 
 the switch from low angle to high angle.)

 On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 8:13 AM James Warren  
 wrote:

> Eric is right. I've owned both a 64 cm Ram and a 60 cm Sam and both 
> fit me.
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 7:30 AM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> I think those two frames would fit very differently. The Ram has 
>> traditional road geo, so maybe a 64cm Ram would be equivalent to a 60cm 
>> Sam. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Friday, May 21, 2021, bob saunders  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello...I’m looking for a 60cm Rambouillet or Sam 
>>> Hillborne...complete bike or frame is ok. Located in the PNW but 
>>> shipping 
>>> work too. Thanks  
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Clemsmith Jr L Size 45/52

2022-02-14 Thread ascensionyze X

Greetings from Singapore! 

I just caught the Rivendell bug and am really keen to own the Clem :). Just 
joined this group and really hope to make new friends and learn more. Do PM 
me if there's anyone keen to sell a preloved Clem! 

Fiz

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[RBW] WTT/WTS Campag 10-speed triple group

2022-02-14 Thread bob saunders

Folks…I have an extremely nice Campag 10-speed triple group that I’d like 
to trade/add cash for a 62 Rambouillet or Romulus frame in great condition. 
If sold as a group, I’m asking $550 plus shipping CONUS and I’m not 
interested in breaking up the group. The group consists of:

Comp 10speed 53/42/30 175mm crank and NOS crank bolts
Centaur triple bottom bracket (English threads NOS w/box)
Centaur 10-speed alloy Ergos
Centaur 10-speed triple FD (32mm clamp NOS w/box)
Comp long cage RD
Centaur silver brakes with partially used pads
Here’s a link to a photo of the group and I have individual photos 
available for email as well.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/iriNNST.jpg[/img]

Thanks 

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[RBW] WTB: 45cm Clem Smith Jr. Stepthrough (26")

2022-02-14 Thread Adam Harms

Howdy!

Long time lurker, Bridgestone owner, Riv bar hoarder, and father of an 8 
month old here.  I'm looking to get my petite (5'1") special lady outfitted 
for bicycle errands and fun with baby once the weather clears in the 
Willamette Valley and the baby is big enough.  She currently has a 
Bridgestone MB-3 with Bosco bars and a standover that is too tight for 
comfort with a baby on front (planning on a Yepp Mini).

A small Clem stepthrough would be perfect for hauling baby, groceries, 
light trail use, potential future bike camping, etc. The 26" wheel size 
would allow an easy transfer of parts from the MB-3.

Anybody have a frame they would sell? I'm open to shipping or picking up in 
the Willamette Valley. I have some frames and bars that could be part of a 
trade.

Thanks!

Adam in Philomath, OR

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55cm HillborneW

2022-02-14 Thread Frank Burkybile

I have been there before Ahmed and it can be frustrating! I have sold 
several bikes online over the years and some of the best seem to get no 
response, need to get posted several times before getting any interest, 
then only to get tire kickers who only want to look. Other times, one post 
will get a lot of same-day interest. Fortunate timing (luck?) seems to be 
the key. Perhaps when folks start to get a little spring fever in a few 
weeks, you will find someone who is a match. 

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 12:45:56 PM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Can’t remember off hand but I’ll take a pic and upload later today. Thank 
> you!
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:33 AM steve  wrote:
>
>> What stem shifters are on the Sam?
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>
>>> Possibly. What exactly are you looking for? and at what price range?
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:04 AM Brady Smith  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ahmed, 

 Any chance you'd consider parting it out or just selling the rolling 
 chassis? 

 Brady in SLC

 On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 8:27:27 AM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Thanks for the advice Bill. I’ll think on that. 
>
> Best
> A
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:16 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Ahmed is selling a $2900 Hillborne.  
>>
>> I notice you have a super expensive saddle on the bike.  If you sold 
>> the bike with no saddle, you could drop the price.  If you don't like 
>> the 
>> saddle, maybe you could sell the saddle separately which could also 
>> lower 
>> the price of the remaining build.  You could do something similar with 
>> the 
>> front rack, which is pretty valuable, and desirable, and currently sold 
>> out 
>> at Riv.  
>>
>> I mention this because over on iBob, a poster is requesting to buy a 
>> Berthoud Aubisque saddle, in any color, before going and paying full 
>> retail.  If your Berthoud saddle is an Aubisque, maybe you could sell it 
>> separately.  Most buyers of used bikes expect to BYO pedals and saddle.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's try this again
>>> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity 
>>> Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto 
>>> seatpost 
>>> and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with 
>>> stem 
>>> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on 
>>> it. 
>>> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and 
>>> prefer 
>>> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on 
>>> Craigslist. 
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
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Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-02-14 Thread Catherina Gioino

I think they'd be pretty comparable. I have 700C wheel set on a 52cm frame 
with the Tektro R559s as well, and there's plenty of head room between the 
tire and the fork and just enough between the brake pads. Good luck with 
the fenders!

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:

> Cat, which wheel size Roadini do you have?  I am running 650b 32mm Grand 
> Bois Cypres with Velo Orange fenders. I just changed the rear brake to a 
> Paul Racer, from Tektro R559, and I will be replacing the front brake with 
> a Paul Racer also, when some spare parts arrive. I would like to be able to 
> use 38’s even if I have to take the fenders off, as 650b / 32s are such a 
> hard size to find. I got the current tires from Blue Lug in Japan. 
>
> Dorothy in Los Angeles 
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:52:07 PM UTC-8 Catherina Gioino wrote:
>
>> I love the Roadini's size and it doesn't at all feel sluggish to ride. 
>> For context, I've only ever ridden steel-frame cheap Craigslist road bike 
>> finds like Panasonic and more, or my Surly Crosscheck, so if anything, the 
>> Roadini feels like a breeze. 
>>
>> I can absolutely vouch for that need for speed though-- my boyfriend is 
>> constantly whirring past on his Clem but when we took a ride recently, he 
>> was struggling to catch up. And for the tire clearance question-- I 
>> switched my Vittoria 28mm Corsa tires to 38mm Rene Herse and they ride like 
>> a charm
>>
>> Cat in Queens
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-31 at 4.00.06 PM.png]
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I love my Roadini (size 57, I'm 87 PBH) with wavie bars; it is one of my 
>>> favorite bikes. I had tried to write a list of reasons but really it's just 
>>> this one:
>>>  
>>> - it is a blast to ride 
>>>
>>> I'm sorry I can't answer the "sluggish and heavy" question, it feels 
>>> pretty fun to me. My experience is surely different from a lighter and 
>>> racier rider though. IMHO this comment from Bill Lindsay is very wise: 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/_I9Rs_7FmfE/m/eu1birv2BQAJ 
>>> (Hope it's OK to re-link Bill)
>>>
>>> Sounds like you just need to find someone nearby with road-ish (Homer, 
>>> Sam, Road*, etc) Riv and try it out. Only way to know for sure. It's a 
>>> frustrating place to be (remembering back before I had a chance to ride any 
>>> Riv) but fixable probably before the next Roadini shipment. They do still 
>>> have Homers in stock. Definitely call and talk to Riv and see what they say 
>>> too.
>>>
>>> mike in atx
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] FS :: Single-Speed Freewheels & Fixed Cogs Shimano Suntour NEW

2022-02-14 Thread David Hallerman


Hello!

I still love my single-speed bike, a Gunnar Streetdog that was one of 
the first frames built by that Wisconsin brand at the close of the 20th 
century. But I don’t futz around with its gearing as much. So perhaps 
you might want one or two of these new Shimano single-speed freewheels 
and Suntour, Shimano, and Sub 11.0 (Quality Bike Products) track cogs 
for your own futzing pleasure.


As with my other sales, prices include shipping for buyers who cover the 
Paypal fee, pictures on request, and questions quickly answered. Thanks 
for looking!


Dave, who notes that the Sub 11.0 cogs were manufactured by or for QBP 
in the U.S.


Hudson Valley NY

_*Freewheels & Track Cogs*_
Shimano MX-30 freewheel 1/8” and 3/32” 16-teeth (2 available) = $31 ea.
Shimano MX-30 freewheel 1/8” and 3/32” 17-teeth (2 available) = $31 ea.
Shimano MX-30 freewheel 1/8” and 3/32” 18-teeth = $31
Suntour Superbe Pro (HC-100) track cog 3/32” 17-teeth = $26
Suntour Superbe Pro (HC-100) track cog 1/8” 18-teeth (2 available) = $26 ea.
Shimano Dura-Ace (7600) track cog 3/32” 15-teeth = $23
Shimano Dura-Ace (7600) track cog 3/32” 16-teeth = $23
Sub 11.0 (QPB) track cog 3/32” 16-teeth = $22
Sub 11.0 (QPB) track cog 3/32” 17-teeth (2 available) = $22 ea.
Sub 11.0 (QPB) track cog 3/32” 18-teeth (2 available) = $22 ea.
Sub 11.0 (QPB) track cog 3/32” 19-teeth (2 available) = $22 ea.

_*HG Hub Single-Speed Cog Package*_
You probably already know that a Shimano HyperGlide hub can be given the 
function of a single-speed freewheel by installing a combination of 
spacers and a single HG cog. That’s what’s here in this package. Any 
questions? Price for all 3 sprockets and 17 spacers = $33 shipped

Alloy Accent HG spacers 3mm blue = 10 qty.
Alloy Accent HG spacers 3mm purple = 7 qty.
Shimano MX-66 single sprocket 15-teeth = 1 qty.
Shimano MX-66 single sprocket 16-teeth = 1 qty.
Shimano MX-66 single sprocket 18-teeth = 1 qty.

_*Sachs Freewheel Cogs Package*_
Several Sachs/Aris freewheel cogs in this package deal. Price for all 
five shipped = $29

Sachs/Aris freewheel cog 21-teeth
Sachs/Aris freewheel cog 18-teeth
Sachs/Aris freewheel cog threaded 16-teeth
Sachs/Aris freewheel cog threaded 14-teeth
Sachs/Aris freewheel cog threaded 12-teeth

==

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[RBW] Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

2022-02-14 Thread J. W.

Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of coveting a
Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this spring. As I was
just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the right length ready
for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a considerably steeper
slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, compared to 6, if
bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I hadn't realised there
would be such a difference, and I hadn't read anything about any big
changes (I know they posted the measurements, and it's on me for not doing
due diligence, but I would have thought such a big change would have
warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their thinking on why, and
perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual reference for what I had to
look forward to is now out of date and of course I'm second-guessing
myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam instead -- I'm mostly a
one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which I've ridden for a long
time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees was already a big step
for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of people's builds I came to
see the slight slope as a good thing and I embraced my 6-degree-slopey
future, step boldly into the future etc.

Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam have
exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in
profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and forth
between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to
identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 geometry.
So what's going on? If the stack has been increased by as much as the
dimensions in the chart say, there's no way that those photos represent the
2021 geometry accurately. I don't know what to do now!

What do you think?

Jon

Re: [RBW] Suggestions for transporting a fat, tall, heavy wheel by bicycle?

2022-02-14 Thread Josiah Anderson

I've had good results carrying wheels horizontally by putting the rim
against the forward stop ("tombstone") of a rear rack and the axle with QR
hooked in front of the rearmost rail, held on by two toe straps or whatever
else is handy. I have no idea if your wheel and rack will match up in a way
that makes this possible. I've also made many backpack-type wheel carriers
out of stuff pulled from bike shop garbage cans: inner tubes as the straps
and a piece of cardboard as padding, attached using some combination of
knots and zip-ties.

Josiah Anderson
Missoula, MT

Le lun. 31 janv. 2022 à 16:33, Patrick Moore  a écrit :

> I seek ad hoc methods, nothing requiring permanent setups.
>
> Tomorrow I hope to pick up the rear Monocog wheel from the shop fewer than
> 2 miles from home. The wheel is heavy and almost 31" in diameter. The bike
> I plan to ride (to the PO, in fact, and pick up wheel on the way home) has
> a rear rack and will be carrying Ortlieb Backrollers, in case you have a
> solution involving rear racks and Ortlieb panniers.
>
> I've carried rims on my back slung by ad hoc slings created from 2 Riv
> Irish straps, and I've hacked front axle mounts for a pair of wheels(a la
> the working class Brit club racer solution, made in about 20 minutes from
> 1" aluminum strips, but this is for a single rear wheel and I don't want to
> bother to find the wheel carriers.
>
> My plan is to use the Irish/John straps and some cloth to pad the axle
> where it digs into my back -- or simply ride home 1-handed, carrying the
> wheel in the other hand -- untrafficked bosque ditch roads; but if
> youse/yiss/yinz/all y'all have better ideas, please share them. I really
> dislike driving my car on a 3-mile rt errand.
>
> Ta!
>
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[RBW] Please help me find my Platy!

2022-02-14 Thread katherine Evanskbe

Okay, so I finally know exactly the size I need for my bike. Unfortunately a 55 
will not work for me :(. I went to my local bike shop to get my BPH measured 
once again to be sure. I have very long legs, and my BPH is indeed 89, so I 
definitely need a 60. I am so bummed as I loved that 55 that was listed! 
I also talked to Vince at Riv and he concurred that I need a 60. He also 
suggested I might be interested in a Cheviot . If anybody has any leads on 
anything like this, I would very much appreciate it!! 
Thanks so much!
Newby Kathie 

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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-14 Thread Rob Kristoff

Erik,
+1 on thanks for your thorough response. 

We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough about 
the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting this 
thread. 

Rob K. in MA

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the 
> most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this 
> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
>> posts get pulled!"
>>
>> Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to unexpected 
>> places. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot of 
>>> people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of talks by 
>>> Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
>>> book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
>>> over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there are 
>>> many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  
>>>
>>> A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
>>> - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a few 
>>> years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a fantastic 
>>> writer and teacher.  
>>> -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of the 
>>> original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great reflection 
>>> of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me for writing these 
>>> lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for living too much 
>>> in my head.  :)
>>>
>>> If you want to hear / watch a talk, I always like to recommend this one 
>>> because it was written for a lay audience and connects the principles of 
>>> Zen with ordinary life.  It's Zoketsu Norman Fischer giving the graduation 
>>> speech at Stanford in 2014.  
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9p__BHHDs
>>>
>>> And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
>>> posts get pulled!
>>>   
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:48:17 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm learning so much here - is there an equivalent of Grant's "Just 
 Ride" for Zen?

 On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:08:51 AM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

> What a pleasure it was to read of your experience, Erik! Much of what 
> you wrote resonates deeply with me. Perhaps this is because we share 
> something of a history with San Francisco Zen Center and a particular 
> approach to both Zen and riding a bike. 
>
> My formative experiences with Zen occurred when I lived in the City in 
> the late 80s/early 90s and sat at the Zen center regularly during this 
> time. This and S.Suzuki's 'beginner's mind' approach to Zen flavored my 
> view of the practice as a way to "engage with every activity with the 
> same 
> energy as you do your sitting". I was a runner at the time, and my early 
> morning runs to the Zen center from my 16th/Guerrero place and home again 
> were a way to extend the practice beyond the zendo.
>
> Your description of your ride today puts into words so clearly my own 
> experiences on rides that challenge me, and how I return to my breathing 
> as 
> a method of focusing on the ways in which my body reacts to a tough hill, 
> frozen hands, thirst, or fatigue. There always seems to be another pedal 
> stroke at the bottom of that gaze. And, when the riding is easy, as I 
> mentioned above, breathing is a wonderful way to bring my attention to 
> the 
> moment where brendanoid's 'constant birdsong' echos across Phillip's 
> 'gritty industrial streets' as my wheels spin effortlessly. 
>
> Cheers,
> John
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:07:55 PM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>
>> An interesting thread.  I've been involved with Zen practice for a 
>> long time.  I'm fortunate to live the greater Bay Area, one of the 
>> places 
>> where Soto Zen first took root in America back in the 1950s and 60s as 
>> the 
>> Beat generation started attending services at local Japanese temples in 
>> pursuit of new experiences.  Between San Francisco Zen Center and all of 
>> the other temples and practices centers that branched off over the years 
>> around here, we have a lot of teachers and places to practice.  I've 
>> been a 
>> student at Sonoma Mountain Zen Center for many years now and have spent 
>> a 
>> lot of time sitting on a cushion and staring at the wall inside the 
>> zendo. 
>>
>>
>> A fundamental concept in Zen

[RBW] Re: Shimano V-Brake Mounting Bolts

2022-02-14 Thread Rob Kristoff

Hi Johnny,
Bike shops are out of a lot of things, but I can't imagine they don't have 
brake mounting bolts at any local shop. (But then, there's a lot of things 
about this latest bike boom I thought I'd never see, so...) I guess it 
depends how particular you are about the bolts you get. I'm sure the OEM 
bolts Shimano supplies 
(https://cambriabike.com/products/shimano-xt-m750-739-v-brake-mounting-bolt) 
could be a little rarer, but if you just need to mount the brakes, it 
should be pretty simple. (These Shimano bolts may be what Garth's link 
refers to, but I can't seem to get it to connect).

Rob

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:05:07 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> The M6 threaded bolts with a shallow or rounded button kind of head. The 
> length from Shimano states both 16mm and 25mm, front and rear I suppose. 
>
>
> https://si.shimano.com/api/publish/storage/pdf/en/ev/BR-T670/EV-BR-T670-3307.pdf
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:26:22 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I have some Shimano LX V-brakes that I would like to use but realized 
>> that I no longer have the mounting bolts. It doesn't look like this is an 
>> easy to grab part and I am confused by what people on the internet say 
>> works and doesn't work on the internet. Anyone know where to buy what will 
>> work?
>
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Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

Hi Gallop riders – Does anyone have a take on the Gallop in contrast to an 
unloaded Hillborne with drops? I know Jason has a Hillborne but racked and 
fendered. Curious how they compare :)

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:31:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Killer! I can't wait to see it. Make sure to post it up here when its 
> done.  The extra few mm of height on those mini-v's should be perfect. I 
> have the Box mini's and they cleared a real world 48mm tire with just a 
> touch of clearance. The extra bit of height should allow you to clear 
> 50's.  I plan to move to Rivendell V's when they are available only because 
> I love the way they are looking from the early drawings and such.
>
> On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:17:25 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>
>> Johny: yes, my friend was quick on the draw and got it for me because 
>> they knew it was my ideal version of a Charlie - gotta have those 
>> canti/v-brake posts. It’ll end up replacing my Sam Hillborne. 
>>
>> Now Charlie’s sitting (ironically with no saddle) in my garage waiting 
>> for a few quick changes (replace the C15 narrow saddle with my Flyer 
>> imperial, add a rack and basket) before getting some commuter duty and a 
>> nice long ride next weekend… then more tinkering and changes to follow like:
>> • Mini v-brakes (likely Shimano BR R353 with 90mm arch, taller than the 
>> Box Two or Three 85mm mini v’s), 
>> • Swapping for my Hillborne’s wheelset (first wheels I built) with G-One 
>> Allround 50mm tires
>> • Dynamo lights, 
>> • 46/30t double crankset to a 11-40t cassette (which may require a 
>> wolftooth-like hanger extender), and 
>> • Kona Wah Wah pedals. 
>>
>> Now I just need some spare time for wrenching … but I’ll probably spend 
>> that time riding my daughters around in the Rosco Baby bike instead. The 
>> highest form of productive procrastination.
>>
>> Abe
>>
>> On Friday, 11 February 2022 at 16:51:41 UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Pancake, so you got the third Gallop V1 prototype?
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 7:18:18 PM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 Drop bar Sam checking in per David's request/comment ... soon to be 
 replaced by another Proto Charlie (photos of that orange 57cm to come 
 later).
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[RBW] Re: Shimano V-Brake Mounting Bolts

2022-02-14 Thread Garth

The M6 threaded bolts with a shallow or rounded button kind of head. The 
length from Shimano states both 16mm and 25mm, front and rear I suppose. 

https://si.shimano.com/api/publish/storage/pdf/en/ev/BR-T670/EV-BR-T670-3307.pdf

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:26:22 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I have some Shimano LX V-brakes that I would like to use but realized that 
> I no longer have the mounting bolts. It doesn't look like this is an easy 
> to grab part and I am confused by what people on the internet say works and 
> doesn't work on the internet. Anyone know where to buy what will work?

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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

2022-02-14 Thread Philip Barrett

Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the most 
un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this title. 
Thanks for the recommendations.

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

> "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
> posts get pulled!"
>
> Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to unexpected 
> places. 
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>
>> The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot of 
>> people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of talks by 
>> Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
>> book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
>> over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there are 
>> many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  
>>
>> A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
>> - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a few 
>> years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a fantastic 
>> writer and teacher.  
>> -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of the 
>> original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great reflection 
>> of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me for writing these 
>> lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for living too much 
>> in my head.  :)
>>
>> If you want to hear / watch a talk, I always like to recommend this one 
>> because it was written for a lay audience and connects the principles of 
>> Zen with ordinary life.  It's Zoketsu Norman Fischer giving the graduation 
>> speech at Stanford in 2014.  
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9p__BHHDs
>>
>> And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
>> posts get pulled!
>>   
>>
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:48:17 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm learning so much here - is there an equivalent of Grant's "Just 
>>> Ride" for Zen?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:08:51 AM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 What a pleasure it was to read of your experience, Erik! Much of what 
 you wrote resonates deeply with me. Perhaps this is because we share 
 something of a history with San Francisco Zen Center and a particular 
 approach to both Zen and riding a bike. 

 My formative experiences with Zen occurred when I lived in the City in 
 the late 80s/early 90s and sat at the Zen center regularly during this 
 time. This and S.Suzuki's 'beginner's mind' approach to Zen flavored my 
 view of the practice as a way to "engage with every activity with the same 
 energy as you do your sitting". I was a runner at the time, and my early 
 morning runs to the Zen center from my 16th/Guerrero place and home again 
 were a way to extend the practice beyond the zendo.

 Your description of your ride today puts into words so clearly my own 
 experiences on rides that challenge me, and how I return to my breathing 
 as 
 a method of focusing on the ways in which my body reacts to a tough hill, 
 frozen hands, thirst, or fatigue. There always seems to be another pedal 
 stroke at the bottom of that gaze. And, when the riding is easy, as I 
 mentioned above, breathing is a wonderful way to bring my attention to the 
 moment where brendanoid's 'constant birdsong' echos across Phillip's 
 'gritty industrial streets' as my wheels spin effortlessly. 

 Cheers,
 John
 On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:07:55 PM UTC+9 Erik wrote:

> An interesting thread.  I've been involved with Zen practice for a 
> long time.  I'm fortunate to live the greater Bay Area, one of the places 
> where Soto Zen first took root in America back in the 1950s and 60s as 
> the 
> Beat generation started attending services at local Japanese temples in 
> pursuit of new experiences.  Between San Francisco Zen Center and all of 
> the other temples and practices centers that branched off over the years 
> around here, we have a lot of teachers and places to practice.  I've been 
> a 
> student at Sonoma Mountain Zen Center for many years now and have spent a 
> lot of time sitting on a cushion and staring at the wall inside the 
> zendo. 
>
>
> A fundamental concept in Zen practice is that there is no distinction 
> between sitting (zazen) and other activities. Zazen is just one way to 
> bring your attention to the present moment.  A big part of the practice 
> is 
> that you approach and engage with every activity with the same energy as 
> you do your sitting practice and that whatever you are doing should be 
> done 
> fully and completely.  When you sit, you sit.

[RBW] Re: FS Simworks Obento Rack - $105

2022-02-14 Thread Sofie C

Sold, thank you!

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 5:29:13 PM UTC-5 Sofie C wrote:

> Available again at updated price - Asking $95 net to me due to struts 
> being trimmed when they were installed on my Platypus (which measures 50 
> cm, 650b wheels). The two longer struts are 14" and the two shorter struts 
> are 7.5". Additional struts can be purchased at Sim Works for $20/pair. 
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 12:49:39 PM UTC-5 Sofie C wrote:
>
>> Pending payment - thank you for the interest!
>>
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 11:26:11 AM UTC-5 Sofie C wrote:
>>
>>> Selling my Simworks obento rack in black - asking $105 net to me. Rack 
>>> is gently used; it was installed on my platypus 50 and used only a handful 
>>> of times, but has some nicks where the silver shows through the black. 
>>> Purchased in 2021 from Psychic Derailleur.
>>>
>>> Pictures here:
>>> https://www.icloud.com/photos/#026CdSQQB3rASXrYra0ezC4ZQ
>>>
>>> More info on rack at Sim Works:
>>> https://www.sim.works/products/obento-rack?variant=12537904758885
>>>
>>> Pick up near Boston area or will ship at cost.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Shimano V-Brake Mounting Bolts

I have some Shimano LX V-brakes that I would like to use but realized that 
I no longer have the mounting bolts. It doesn't look like this is an easy 
to grab part and I am confused by what people on the internet say works and 
doesn't work on the internet. Anyone know where to buy what will work?

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[RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread