Re: [RBW] Re: Eric M.'s new video: Shop tour, favorite workshops, tool organization and my next bicycle build

[JohnS]

Thank you Eric for the feedback, that is a Swift. I have another one on my 
'82 Sequoia. They are my favorite saddle for my drop bar bikes replacing 
the Selle Anatomica X. The pics were taken with my Velo Orange Camp Snap 
camera (grainy quality is a feature, I suppose).

JohnS
On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 4:06:49 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> JohnS: Thanks for the pics, nice looking Bolt there, love all the brown. 
> How's the Swift? Or is that a Swallow? I need a brown saddle for my 
> Hillborne and like the fit of the black Brooks Pro I have. Love the shop 
> and the grainy photos! That's the stuff. Thanks for sharing. 
>
> George: Well that's a beautiful level you have there, are you sure you 
> want to go through the trouble of sending it my way? Have you checked it 
> for accuracy? Sometimes those old spirit levels can have problems with the 
> vials and bubbles. I have a full set of Stabila levels so I am equipped 
> though that old Stanley sure is handsome... 
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 1:50:22 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Eric - since you have a fascination with old tools that kind of have 
>> class or character, would you be interested in this very old *wooden* 
>> carpenter's 
>> level?  I believe that it belonged to my great uncle who was a physician, 
>> not a tradesman, but someone who used to like working with wood and doing a 
>> lot of things by himself as an amateur handyman.  On the metal parts it 
>> says "Stanley rule and level."  There are no inch markings anyplace, but 
>> the dimensions are suspiciously identical to what a carpenter would use for 
>> measuring typical construction widths and lengths: it's 2 ft. long x 3.125" 
>> wide x 1.325" thick.  It can be yours for the asking if you're interested.  
>> I'm trying to get rid of as much of my stash of stuff as possible as I head 
>> into the mid-70's.
>>
>> [image: DSCN1050.JPG]
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 8:47:48 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> JohnS: I clicked the link and got a 404. Would love to see the Bolt, 
>>> those are really sweet bikes. 
>>>
>>> Steve: Thanks, bud! Rob Gassie removed the bottom bracket, he's the 
>>> frame builder who stripped and painted the bike for me. He said he put the 
>>> frame in his alignment table (really big fixture, lots of clamps, allowed 
>>> for maximum torque) and was able to bust it loose. I don't know the origins 
>>> of my Sam but there were many details about the build that leave me 
>>> thinking it was not originally assembled very carefully. 
>>>
>>> Roberta: Thank you for watching! Garden's looking even better now, just 
>>> a few weeks later. Though I noticed yesterday a groundhog ate one of my 
>>> coleus plants. 
>>>
>>> George: Thank you thank you. The glasses are a P3 shape but I didn't 
>>> think the lenses were particularly thick? I think of pop bottle glasses as 
>>> having the effect of looking through the bottom of an old glass Coca-Cola 
>>> bottle... I still wear glasses, wearing them right now. My hair's naturally 
>>> pretty dark but I haven't had a haircut since Nov 2022 and I spend a lot of 
>>> time in the sun so it's lighter from exposure.  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 8:05:51 PM UTC-4 george schick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eric - an excellent filming of your workshop and exterior plantings.  
>>>> What a nice place to live and do your work.  I was reminded, though, of a 
>>>> similar but not quite as professional episode as this one from several 
>>>> years ago where you were doing a rebuild of a mixte that your "partner's" 
>>>> parents gave her - some Japanese manufacturer, I think.  I recognized that 
>>>> the scenes of your shop are the same as your current video, but it's a 
>>>> "different Eric Marth!"  Pop bottle glasses, dark hair, etc.  What 
>>>> happened?
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 10:00:47 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone for watchin'! 
>>>>>
>>>>> Marty: The Match Game was before my time but I certainly came up with 
>>>>> Bob Barker. The $20 corded mic I bought just didn't seem right clipped to 
>>>>> my shirt so I went for the long mic. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick: I appreciate the kind notes. Sorry about the SW gardening 
>>>>> woes, I know nothing of gardening in that clime. I've had my own troubles 
>>>>> here! I was in a different house about

Re: [RBW] Re: Eric M.'s new video: Shop tour, favorite workshops, tool organization and my next bicycle build

[JohnS]

Sorry about that Eric, please try this one...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEEVfGiR2Z2j8Bft7


On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 9:47:48 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> JohnS: I clicked the link and got a 404. Would love to see the Bolt, those 
> are really sweet bikes. 
>
> Steve: Thanks, bud! Rob Gassie removed the bottom bracket, he's the frame 
> builder who stripped and painted the bike for me. He said he put the frame 
> in his alignment table (really big fixture, lots of clamps, allowed for 
> maximum torque) and was able to bust it loose. I don't know the origins of 
> my Sam but there were many details about the build that leave me thinking 
> it was not originally assembled very carefully. 
>
> Roberta: Thank you for watching! Garden's looking even better now, just a 
> few weeks later. Though I noticed yesterday a groundhog ate one of my 
> coleus plants. 
>
> George: Thank you thank you. The glasses are a P3 shape but I didn't think 
> the lenses were particularly thick? I think of pop bottle glasses as having 
> the effect of looking through the bottom of an old glass Coca-Cola 
> bottle... I still wear glasses, wearing them right now. My hair's naturally 
> pretty dark but I haven't had a haircut since Nov 2022 and I spend a lot of 
> time in the sun so it's lighter from exposure.  
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 8:05:51 PM UTC-4 george schick wrote:
>
>> Eric - an excellent filming of your workshop and exterior plantings.  
>> What a nice place to live and do your work.  I was reminded, though, of a 
>> similar but not quite as professional episode as this one from several 
>> years ago where you were doing a rebuild of a mixte that your "partner's" 
>> parents gave her - some Japanese manufacturer, I think.  I recognized that 
>> the scenes of your shop are the same as your current video, but it's a 
>> "different Eric Marth!"  Pop bottle glasses, dark hair, etc.  What happened?
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 10:00:47 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone for watchin'! 
>>>
>>> Marty: The Match Game was before my time but I certainly came up with 
>>> Bob Barker. The $20 corded mic I bought just didn't seem right clipped to 
>>> my shirt so I went for the long mic. 
>>>
>>> Patrick: I appreciate the kind notes. Sorry about the SW gardening woes, 
>>> I know nothing of gardening in that clime. I've had my own troubles here! I 
>>> was in a different house about 10 years ago and the garden was a lot of 
>>> work but it was abundant and without many difficulties. The soil and sun 
>>> are different in this spot and growing has taken a lot of trial and error. 
>>> I'm finally getting the hang of things. A groundhog just showed up on the 
>>> scene, I saw them (unsure if it's a male or female) heartily eating some 
>>> lettuce while sitting in the raised bed earlier this week! It's fenced off 
>>> but they found a way in. I have to admit it was kind of cute, holding a 
>>> huge piece of lettuce, but it still left me cursing. I'm glad you like the 
>>> tools!
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, and I forwarded the video link to Jeremiah; he will appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eric M.'s new video: Shop tour, favorite workshops, tool organization and my next bicycle build

[JohnS]

Thank you Eric for the video! I waited until I had some free time to that I 
could take it in and enjoy it, very entertaining! I really appreciated the 
references to the artist and artisan studios which inspire you, as well as 
the books. Here's a link to a couple pics of my work shop in our two car 
garage (which are rarely parked in there due to all the bikes). I've also 
have a pic of my Crust LB-canti since it has the same color scheme as your 
next build (brown frame, brown leather bar tape, brown side wall RH tires 
and a brown Brooks Swift saddle. Good luck with the build and finding just 
the right parts.

JohnS

My shop and Crust LB-canti. 
<https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipMPzXkRd4nKLjJTU4dW3810G960Bn2S-HIJ0OCs>

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 11:00:47 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks everyone for watchin'! 
>
> Marty: The Match Game was before my time but I certainly came up with Bob 
> Barker. The $20 corded mic I bought just didn't seem right clipped to my 
> shirt so I went for the long mic. 
>
> Patrick: I appreciate the kind notes. Sorry about the SW gardening woes, I 
> know nothing of gardening in that clime. I've had my own troubles here! I 
> was in a different house about 10 years ago and the garden was a lot of 
> work but it was abundant and without many difficulties. The soil and sun 
> are different in this spot and growing has taken a lot of trial and error. 
> I'm finally getting the hang of things. A groundhog just showed up on the 
> scene, I saw them (unsure if it's a male or female) heartily eating some 
> lettuce while sitting in the raised bed earlier this week! It's fenced off 
> but they found a way in. I have to admit it was kind of cute, holding a 
> huge piece of lettuce, but it still left me cursing. I'm glad you like the 
> tools!
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Oh, and I forwarded the video link to Jeremiah; he will appreciate it.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: how wide of wheels and tires will a specialized seqoia handle

[JohnS]

Hello Bo,

I have an '82 Sequoia that I have RH 700 x 32 Stampede Pass tires mounted 
on Velocity Quill rims. Comfortable amount of clearance without fenders. I 
have not tired them with fenders since this is my naked road bike (no 
fenders nor racks). My Crust LB-canti is my fully dressed bike. I'm very 
happy with my Sequoia, nice neutral handling, smooth ride and descends 
well. FWIW, I've heard people on the 650B list like to convert the Sequoia 
to 650b, so 38 or even a 42 may fit. 

Good luck,
JohnS



On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:09:27 PM UTC-4 boru...@gmail.com wrote:

> there is a steel sequoia I am looking at remotely.
> the tires on it say 23mm and look narrow as knife blades
> there doesn't seem to be a lot of room beyond that 
> for wider wheels and tires.
>
> I bet there are 20 people on the list with experience 
> with this situation
>
> is the sequoia a good solution for someone hoping for
> 32s or at least 28s?
>
> fenders would be too much to hope for?
>
> thanks for the expertise
>
> Bo 
> Bellingham
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about rear brake cable housing routing with low friction on a Clem

[JohnS]

+1 for Universal Cycles, they are my go to for Jagwire cables, SRAM chains 
and other mundane parts that I use when rebuilding a bike. Also always 
impressed with the creative use of brake cable noodles. As I recall someone 
posted using one at the stem or some such.

JohnS


On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 8:35:53 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> @Allan -
> I thank-you for sharing with me the details of how your 135 degree brake 
> noodle fits onto your rear brake cable housing. I appreciate it very much. 
> Thank-you for the noodle link, as well. Universal Cycles is relatively 
> close to me out of Oregon.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 3:48:57 AM UTC-7 Allan McLane wrote:
>
>> Kim,
>>
>> The photo shows how Riv arranged the cable housing guide braze-on on this 
>> bike, a Rosco Platypus. The entire housing slides through the braze-on and 
>> the end of the housing slips into the entrance of the noodle. It isn’t 
>> really necessary but I also slipped a short length of clear tubing around 
>> the outside of noodle about midway along, just to hold it off the seat tube 
>> paint.
>>
>> Here’s one source for that part:
>> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=205
>>
>> Allan in SE Vt
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Thank Ian for the links. I'm pressed by all the lighting options they have! 

JohnS


On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 11:15:44 AM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> John,
>
> Since 2013,  have bought from bike24.de, rose.de and bike-discount.de in 
> Germany. All have been excellent.  My last order was in 2020 from Rose 
> Bike, when I couldn't find what I needed locally. Things have changed over 
> the past 10 years or so. There are quite a number of restrictions by 
> manufacturers as to what can leave the EU (in order to protect local North 
> America vendors, which makes good sense) and things like batteries now fall 
> under restrictions for dangerous cargo. Rose removed the cycle computer 
> from my order because of the single CR2032 battery couldn't be shipped 
> outside of the EU without extensive paperwork!
>
> Naturally, with this being the RBW list, look for local options first. 
> Maybe a list member is holding just what you are looking for. :)
>
> IanA Kitimat BC
> On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 6:13:46 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Ian, the quality of the hub is something to consider. You 
>> mention ordering from German sites, is there one or two that you can 
>> recommend?
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
>>> Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
>>> products.
>>>
>>> Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
>>> LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
>>> the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
>>> might be excepted from the restriction. 
>>>
>>> I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B 
>>> lights, Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes 
>>> and nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for 
>>> export. Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). 
>>> Maybe they do now,  my last order was while back.
>>>
>>> My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
>>> option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
>>> Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
>>> delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
>>> Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 
>>>
>>> IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add 
>>>> socks, gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.
>>>>
>>>> JohnS
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
>>>>> $1.08 at the moment. 
>>>>>
>>>>> That's WITH shipping. 
>>>>>
>>>>> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
>>>>> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of 
>>>>> America)
>>>>> >> Product code: 234412101"
>>>>>
>>>>> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
>>>>> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road 
>>>>> bikes 
>>>>> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers -m
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
>>>>>> see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too 
>>>>>> expensive 
>>>>>> and I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to 
>>>>>> build wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I 
>>>>>> was going to give it a try if needed.
>>>>>>
>

[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Thank you Ian, the quality of the hub is something to consider. You mention 
ordering from German sites, is there one or two that you can recommend?

JohnS


On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
> Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
> products.
>
> Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
> LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
> the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
> might be excepted from the restriction. 
>
> I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B lights, 
> Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes and 
> nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for export. 
> Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). Maybe 
> they do now,  my last order was while back.
>
> My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
> option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
> Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
> delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
> Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 
>
> IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>>
>> Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
>> gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
>>> $1.08 at the moment. 
>>>
>>> That's WITH shipping. 
>>>
>>> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
>>> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
>>> >> Product code: 234412101"
>>>
>>> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
>>> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
>>> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
>>> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>>>
>>> cheers -m
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
>>>> see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive 
>>>> and I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>>>
>>>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
>>>> wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
>>>> going to give it a try if needed.
>>>>
>>>> JohnS
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
>>>>> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
>>>>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a new option:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>>>>>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the 
>>>>>> moment. 
>>>>>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>>>>>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers -mathias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
>>>>>>> lights are the way to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R

[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.

JohnS

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
> $1.08 at the moment. 
>
> That's WITH shipping. 
>
> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
> >> Product code: 234412101"
>
> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>
> cheers -m
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to see 
>> what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive and 
>> I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>
>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
>> wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
>> going to give it a try if needed.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>
>>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
>>> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
>>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's a new option:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>>>
>>>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>>>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
>>>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>>>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>>>>
>>>> cheers -mathias
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
>>>>> lights are the way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Requirements:
>>>>> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
>>>>> pass tires.
>>>>> 100 mm spacing.
>>>>> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
>>>>> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice to have, but not required:
>>>>> Silver color, but black is ok.
>>>>> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
>>>>> switch it).
>>>>> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
>>>>> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
>>>>> hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> JohnS
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to see 
what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive and 
I don't hear from someone on the list.

Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
going to give it a try if needed.

JohnS

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in gold 
> currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes (so 
> versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's a new option:
>>
>>
>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>
>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>>
>> cheers -mathias
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno lights 
>>> are the way to go.
>>>
>>> Requirements:
>>> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
>>> pass tires.
>>> 100 mm spacing.
>>> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
>>> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>>>
>>> Nice to have, but not required:
>>> Silver color, but black is ok.
>>> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
>>> switch it).
>>> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
>>> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
>>> hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>>>
>>> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
>>> Thank you,
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Hello All,

Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno lights 
are the way to go.

Requirements:
26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap pass 
tires.
100 mm spacing.
6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).

Nice to have, but not required:
Silver color, but black is ok.
32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can switch 
it).
Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo hub, 
I've read that it has noticeable drag.

Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
Thank you,
JohnS

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Re: [RBW] I have questions

[JohnS]

Will has Mark's alternate safety strap in this email news letter, scroll 
down to "Mark's safety cable". Looks like a good solution since the cable 
housing protects the bike frame from the cable.

https://us7.campaign-archive.com/?u=ad1569fa93a2ab2374ead2fde=279bef4181

As far as 650B tires go, I recommend Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass 42mm width 
tire, extra light casing. They are great for mixed surface rides; road and 
hard packed gravel or cinder such as a rail trail. As mentioned already, 
they are not so good in mud where they can get squirmy and can loose 
traction. I have them on my Crust Lightening Bolt canti which is my bike 
for long rides and mixed surfaces. I have Gravel King SK tires on my gravel 
bike. They are a very good tire and I use that bike for more challenging 
gravel rides where the surface can be looser and the trails are more like 
mountain bike single track.

Good luck,
JohnS




On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

> You don't say which Gravel King model you are using, but I see in your 
> Philly post that you have Ultradynamico Cava tires on your bike. So maybe 
> you run the file tread GK? Anyhow, I rode through 2 sets of 700x42 Gravel 
> King SK on my old Sam Hillbourne before moving up to 700x50 which just 
> barely fit. I thought I'd notice a big difference but it turned out not to 
> be true, as long as I kept the air pressure up. I only have 650b bikes now, 
> and don't ride Gravel King SK after discovering the Rene Herse file tread 
> much smoother and faster "feeling". I've switched back and forth from 42 
> and 48mm RH file treads as well as 42 Gran Bois and have settled on 48mm RH 
> (Switchback Hill) which measures quite a bit over 48mm on my wheels. The 
> 42mm tires gave the perception that I was faster but the strava data did 
> not corroborate, and the 48mm have so much lovely float over gravel 
> compared to anything narrower or with tooth, I figured why bother? YMMV but 
> I think 48s won't be an issue. If my words sway you at all towards RH, just 
> keep in mind that they are not great in wet conditions with steep descents 
> combined with rim brakes. I learned this twice this fall, and kept RH 
> knobbies on until a few days ago. 
>
> mysterious J
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 11:42:19 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that used to be on my dirt road Matthews were 
>> among the very fastest-rolling tires I've used, including various "racing" 
>> tires and 2 extralight RH models. I'd say that the right 48 mm tire will 
>> roll plenty fast. 
>>
>> I've not used any Gravel Kings.
>>
>> Patrick "it's not my tires that make me slow" Moore
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:10 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ... Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my 
>>> other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles total. 
>>> I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are fat 
>>> enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride 
>>> again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will 
>>> cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Video: Repairing Pam Murray's Silver shifters

[JohnS]

Thank you Eric for sharing! All good advice. Nothing worse than a small 
part falling on the shop floor and spending untold time groping around 
looking for it.

JohnS

PS - Which bike are you bringing to the Expo?

On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 11:43:53 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I'm beyond amazed how great this group is to come together to fix my 
> broken shifters.  Thank you to Eric for taking them apart and to Mike 
> Godwin for the guts.  I love to repair things and get full utility out of 
> all components.  What a great video.
>
> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 9:35:26 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> Lovely video, Eric. Your shop gives me those Van Neistat vibes. Thanks 
>> for documenting this and sharing your process. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 4:48:05 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone — Last fall Pam Murray sent me some Silver shifter levers 
>>> that were in need of repair. They came off her high-mileage Betty Foy after 
>>> the springs wore out. 
>>>
>>> Thanks to Mike Godwin for sending me a broken pair of the old Suntour 
>>> Sprint levers, they provided the parts I needed to get Pam's shifters back 
>>> up and running. 
>>>
>>> I made a video about the process, it's up here: 
>>> https://youtu.be/0g67pjAPYZk
>>>
>>> I hope this is helpful to anyone looking to get their worn out or broken 
>>> Silver v1 or v2 shifters back into shape.
>>>
>>> Cheers! 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Frame and parts sale

[JohnS]

Hello Edward,

How much for the Corgi? 

I know, priceless :)

JohnS

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 10:15:21 PM UTC-5 edwardb...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:59 PM Edward Garnica  
> wrote:
>
>> Making some bike changes and listing the following parts, I will edit as 
>> parts are sold: 
>>
>> Like new 52cm size small Crust Evasion Pastel Speckle'd Black Frame and 
>> Fork - $800 
>>
>> Like new Nitto Handlebar Wavie B2524HT 25.4 660mm - $100 
>>
>> Great Condition Sim Works Bubbly - $75
>>
>> Great Condition Nitto B809 HT Cross Riser Bar - $70 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

[JohnS]

Hello Adam, 

I agree 100% with Bill and Steve's recommendations. A couple things to be 
aware of, make sure to put some grease on the puller before threading it 
onto the crank and to tighten with the adjustable wrench, it's possible to 
damage the crank arm treads otherwise. Second, the FD may need adjusting 
since the chainrings may not be exactly at the same locations as with the 
original cranks.

Good luck,
JohnS

On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 1:52:24 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Generally speaking, anybody who wants to do new mechanical maneuvers, and 
> has the will to purchase the right tools, by all means go for it.  
>
> To swap out your crank set without swapping the BB, what you need are:
>
> -pedal wrench
> -whatever wrench you need for your crank bolts: Long 8mm allen, 14mm 
> socket, maybe both
> -crank puller, and maybe an adjustable wrench to drive your crank puller
>
> Assuming you have all the above, absolutely pull your crank off and test 
> fit the VO.  To measure the length of the existing BB a cheap caliper would 
> be useful.  If your existing BB is "too short" your small ring will hit the 
> frame and if you crank down the crank bolt AFTER you've already crashed 
> your ring into the chain stay, then you'll do real damage.  Aside from 
> that, any clearance is enough clearance, but crazy close, like 1mm would be 
> a concern for many.  3mm is ample.  
>
> Once you have clearance, it's up to you to worry about chain line.  In 
> some narrow Q applications the front derailleur throw can be an issue.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:07:21 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A while back I posted about low q, low-range cranks for my Hillborne.
>>
>> I just ordered one of the VO 46/30s, which seems like a good option at 
>> the price. I'll use the stock rings first, then tweak them down the road.
>>
>> A few questions - I'm going to try the install myself--I think--and this 
>> is my first attempt.
>>
>> I understand that the VO 46/30 is supposed to be paired with a 118mm BB. 
>> I have read on here of folks using shorter spindles. I currently have 
>> either a 113 or 115mm on the Hillborne. I'm assuming the only way to know 
>> is to remove the cranks and measure? Has anyone here tried a shorter 
>> spindle on their Hillborne with the VO cranks?
>>
>> My question - Should I try simply swapping cranks and see how the VO 
>> cranks do at 115/113mm? If so, what would I be watching for to suggest a 
>> problem? OR is this a dumb way to start tinkering with cranks? And if so, 
>> any thoughts on swapping BB vs taking it a shop? (I have great shops 
>> nearby, but like to gradually learn a few things every so often.)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Brevet #2 of 2024, this time on my Legolas

[JohnS]

Congrats Bill on completing your 1st 200K this year in 9 hours and loosing 
12 pounds. I'm sure being that much lighter helped going up the hills. 

JohnS

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:23:03 AM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Nice ride Bill, I enjoy your very readable write ups.
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 2:11 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Today was the SFRandonneurs Russian River 200k brevet.  Executive 
>> summary: I did it on my Legolas, and finished in 9 hours on the button, 
>> clock running, which is a very good time for me. I'm fired up to tackle the 
>> 300 in March.  
>>
>> TL/DR
>>
>> I was signed up for the 2/24 200k, in preparation for the 3/9 300k event, 
>> but a family gathering got arranged on that weekend and I had to pivot to 
>> the 2/10 event.  It's fortunate that SFR has so many events, especially in 
>> the Winter months.  The Russian River 200k route looks like two lollipops. 
>> Unlike most SFR Marin County rides, it doesn't start at the Golden Gate 
>> Bridge.  Instead it starts at the end of Lucas Valley Road in San Rafael.  
>> The "stem" of the first lollipop follows Lucas Valley Road all the way to 
>> Nicosio. Then you go counter clockwise around the first half of the first 
>> lollipop hitting the tip of the stem of the second lollipop in Fallon.  The 
>> second stem ends in Valley Ford, and then we go counter clockwise again up 
>> through Occidental, Rio Vista, Guerneville and alongside the Russian 
>> River.  That second lollipop loop meets up with the Pacific Coast and curls 
>> back down to Valley Ford, retraces stem #2 and returns to the coast along 
>> Tomales Bay before meeting back up with stem #1 in Nicosio, and it's back 
>> Lucas Valley Road to where you started.  It was a gorgeous route and a 
>> splendid day.  After a ton of heavy rain, there was a lot of evidence of it 
>> having been stormy, and lots of wet roads, but no rain today. 
>>
>> At the start at 7AM temperatures were in the low 40s, so I wore bib 
>> shorts plus knee warmers.  I wore a wool base layer, and a thermal SFR long 
>> sleeve jersey, with my rain jacket over that and a reflective vest on top 
>> of that.  I wore some light full finger gloves, and over socks over my road 
>> shoes.  It dropped to the mid 30s in some of the valleys and my fingers 
>> were in pain from the cold.  I was just barely warm enough on the feet, and 
>> for a minute I wished I had worn a buff or similar to pull over my nose and 
>> ears.  By 10AM it warmed up enough that it was no longer a problem, and in 
>> the afternoon a lot of the layers came off as the temperatures got up to 
>> the mid 50s.  
>>
>> My Legolas was originally a 1x10, but I changed it out to a 2x10 late 
>> last year.  I used It on my birthday to summit Mount Diablo, with Barlow 
>> Pass Extralight road tires.  The bike did great on that ride, but after 55 
>> miles, my saddle was not comfortable.  I've got an ultra lightweight Selle 
>> Italia saddle on there, because it's a cyclocross race bike!  Races last an 
>> hour and you're running part of the time.  Who cares if your saddle is 
>> comfortable?  The night before I swapped out my Gilles Berthoud Soulor 
>> leather saddle, and I'm glad I did.  My hindquarters handled the day 
>> without any objections.  
>>
>> The bike did perfectly.  Fast and nimble, but easy to control.  No 
>> mechanicals and no flats.  I hammered the last 40km to just get under the 
>> wire at 9 hours.  Strava gives me 8 hours 40 minutes moving.  My fitness is 
>> progressing nicely.  I've lost about 12 pounds of pudge I didn't need, and 
>> my general strength from Orange Theory Fitness seems to be paying 
>> dividends.  Despite a couple nagging aches and pains, the body did well 
>> today.  
>>
>> Another last minute bike setup change was I decided to run Look style 
>> pedals, instead of SPDs.  My left ankle has been bugging me and I feel a 
>> lot more planted on the solid wide platform of Look pedals.  That choice 
>> served me well all day, with no foot, pedal or ankle issues.  
>>
>> Nutrition-wise I did nothing in preparation.  I had a biggish breakfast 
>> and packed no food.  In Valley Ford I bought a chocolate chip cookie, a 
>> package of cashews and a bag of Hairdo ginger candy.  On my second trip to 
>> Valley Ford I restocked water and had a slice of Lemon Cake.  That all did 
>> fine, and I didn't actually get into the cashews until after the ride.  
>>
>> I did my normal Four 50k sections.  Section 1 I took it easy and warmed 

Re: [RBW] OK to post non Rivendell bikes for sale here?

[JohnS]

You would probably hit a more suitable audience over at The Radavist, Rad 
Bazaar. No cost to buy, but you have to be a member to post things for sale.

https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/

JohnS

On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 7:39:35 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Bill, I will do so. At my age (68) I am much more comfortable & 
> likely safer riding my Gus on singletrack compared to the Ibis. But the 
> bike is a blast and lets you do things on a bike that I probably should not 
> be doing but someone here might want to. I need to make room for a 
> Roaduno!:)
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 17, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Josh C  wrote:
>
> I agree. It's cool that you're digging the Riv and also I'm sure there 
> are folks on here that ride full squish MTBs, carbon road bikes, and all 
> things in between. Not sure about the rules, but I say go for it. Not sure 
> you'll have much success, but why not. 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:20:28 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> There definitely are plenty of big-tent cyclists on this group, and there 
>> is no house rule against selling non-Rivendells.  I think you should list 
>> your Ibis.  Ibis has a ton of retro-chic cache even if that particular 
>> model is super contemporary.  I was pricing out an Ibis Hakka just the 
>> other day...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 2:55:03 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just thought perhaps there might be others here  (actually I am 
>>> certain of it) who’s cycling world includes non Rivendell bikes. But I get 
>>> it.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Armand Kizirian  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Even if you could, who's going to buy that on here? ;) 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:56:02 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> RMRose -  a Gus has taken the place of your  Ibis Mojo 3.  I love it - 
>>>> good on you!   You might try listing the Ibis on 
>>>> BoingBoingShredSleds.com   (I just made that up, please forgive my warped 
>>>> attempt at humor)  
>>>>
>>>> Seriously though, what could be more Rivendellian than choosing a Clem 
>>>> for mountain biking?
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:54:01 PM UTC-5 CMR wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great bike, unfortunately off-topic, I can't imagine Grant on a carbon 
>>>>> full-suspension!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019 Ibis Mojo 3, size large. Fits more like a medium. I am 5’10”. 
>>>>>> Riv content? My Gus has taken it’s place.
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:38 PM, Steve  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've piqued my curiosity - what's the bike?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The moderator and others can correct me, but I think that if the 
>>>>>>> bike in question is relatively aligned with Rivendell tastes and might 
>>>>>>> appeal to list members -- if it's generally Rivendellian in taste -- it 
>>>>>>> will be fine. I would not post a FS for a modern CF road bike or 
>>>>>>> downhill 
>>>>>>> mountain bike here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Rose  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am still new here & do not want to violate an rules. But, I do 
>>>>>>>> have a bicycle that I would like to sell and thought others here might 
>>>>>>>> be 
>>>>>>>> interested. I will not post here until I hear if it is acceptable. 
>>>>>>>> Thanks! 
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[RBW] Re: If you plan to get a Roaduno..,

[JohnS]

Maybe a 2 speed kick back hub with coaster brake would make sense? No 
cables, simple set up.

https://www.sturmey-archer.com/en/products/detail/s2c-silver

JohnS

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:25:47 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 1:54:57 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:
>
> Whups.  My shopping bike is 130mm.  Looks like I'll have to fix it rather 
> than cannibalize it for a Roaduno.
>
>
> It would be pretty easy to spread the frame by 10mm, given the longish 
> chainstays we'reseeing on the prototypes..  Or maybe you can remove a 
> spacer on  one or both sides of the axle, and re-dish the  wheel? 
>
> To the original question, I've been thinking about a 3 speed / coaster 
> brake too.  If not using caliper brakes allows for a little fatter tire, 
> like 55 or 60mm, it will nudge  me even further that way.  
>
> I'm watching this from a classic N+1 starting point.  I don't need a new 
> bike - especially since I already have a Quickbeam - but was excited when 
> the Roaduno was going to be based on the Clem.  I would definitely use a 
> simple, low-maintenance, weather-proof, mud-proof and sand-proof, 
> baloon-tired, cruiser sort of thing... that isnt crappy.   The ability to 
> use 3 speed IGHs is the best thing about horizontal dropouts, once the 
> single-speed novelty wears off.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 90s Road Double paired with 11-36 9 speed rear cassette

[JohnS]

Hello Brenton,

I use the Shimano CS-M770 XT HG 9sp cassette, 11-34 paired with either a 
Sugino or FSA crankset that have 130BCD with 46/34 chainrings. That gives 
me a nice range for the hilly terrain where I live. If you really want the 
to use one of the 105 cranks with 130 BCD then changing the chainrings to 
46/38 might work for you. Otherwise you might want to consider using a TA 
Tripleizer like Will did on his Cuevas. He used a Dura Ace 130 BCD 
crankset, with a 42 Tripleizer and a 32 inner ring. The only problem with 
it is the relatively high cost of about $100.

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/wills-65cm-cuevas?_pos=24&_sid=0ac774f30&_ss=r

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tach.php#alize

Good luck and happy trails,
JohnS

On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 4:16:08 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> 11t sprockets are not useless when you have a 1x drivetrain. I use my 11t 
> on the tandem (38t chainring) and on my single (40t chainring). They don't 
> get used frequently (which is good, since they'd wear out quickly 
> otherwise), but once in a while they get used, which wasn't the case back 
> when I had a triple with 24/39/50 up front.
>
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:39:23 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>
>> There's nothing wrong with simply not using the 11t cog you know :) 
>> Conversely, , I think 11t cogs are worthless myself. I'd rather ride a 
>> larger ring and a larger 12t or 13t cog. Anyone that rides big rings and 
>> big cogs knows how sweet that feels. It doesn't have to be a 53t, a 46t-52t 
>> is fine.  Or get yourself some 7sp FW hubs and ride a 13-32, 14-34 or 13-28 
>> FW. I find it funny that only FW's offer usable and rideable gears these 
>> days. The Sunrace 14-34 has a nice 14/16/18/21/24/28/34 progression. A 
>> 53/14 is still a big gear for most people in most conditions. That's just 
>> me though, as I never got the memo about more than 7 cogs being a good 
>> idea. 
>> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 1:56:46 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> A 53 *can* be perfectly useful if you use something like a 15-25 or 26 
>>> 9 speed as I once did, tho' in my case I used a "compact" double, 52 X 38. 
>>> That gave me a closely spaced range from 94 down to about 40" with cruising 
>>> gears in the middle: 78/74/70 --- well, the cruising gears were really the 
>>> 74" and the 70', but close enough.
>>>
>>> The 52/38 X 15-25 replaced an also-very-nice TA 42/28 or so X 12-23 or 
>>> somesuch, replaced because I thought that the DA 7410 cranks is one of the 
>>> prettiest ever made.
>>>
>>> I got the cogs for this custom cassette from Miche. I think I've read 
>>> that "junior" racing cassettes start with the 15t.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 11:45 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the reason folks are "giving away" their 53/39 cranksets is 
>>>> that the 53 is useless.  A 53x11 is good for one thing: pedaling at 
>>>> >>45MPH.  For those of us who only reach 45MPH on steep descents, that's a 
>>>> useless gear.  I'd just unbolt the 53, lose the front der, and run the 
>>>> bike 
>>>> as a 1x9 with a 39 tooth ring and 11-36 in back.  That would do everything 
>>>> I would need to do on a light road bike.  My absolute max I ever go to on 
>>>> my builds is a 4:1 top gear.  That used to be a 52x13, then it was a 
>>>> 48x12, 
>>>> and now it's a 44x11.  44/28 with an 11-36 would be sensational.  
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 10:11:45 AM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking about going NOS or near-new-vintage crankset for a 
>>>>> build. Nothing against modern stuff, but eBay seems to have a plethora of 
>>>>> nice shimano 105/600 cranksets in great shape for under $100.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know 90s road bike gearing was more focused on racing with small 
>>>>> cassettes in the rear. But has anyone had success or suggestions 
>>>>> for/against getting an older shimano square taper road double with 53/39 
>>>>> or 
>>>>> 52/42ish and paired with an 11-36 9spd cassette? Seems like Riv doesn't 
>>>>> offer any doubles with outer ring bigger than 46 and the smaller rings 
>>>>> are 
>>>>> in the 20s. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a triple on my Sam

[RBW] Re: New Bike Day—Retirement Bike

[JohnS]

Hello Roberta,

I love the painted hearts, hearts on the mud flags and the other red 
accents you've added to your Betty. They all add a bit of whimsy to the 
bike that made me smile. Should be a great bike to ride. I find that my 
Crust Lightning Bolt canti with 650b x 42 tires is my favorite for it's 
versatility and comfort.

Happy Holidays,
JohnS


On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:25:40 AM UTC-5 thalasin wrote:

> That mudflap is spectacular! Beautiful bike and thanks for sharing the 
> story.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Coaster Brakes for a Beachy Clem Build

[JohnS]

Velo Orange sells an eccentric bottom bracket for hollow tech cranks. 
Currently out of stock though. Good reviews for the most part, one did say 
it doesn't take up much slack, maybe one link at most. Probably would work 
fine with a half link.

https://velo-orange.com/collections/bottom-brackets/products/eccentric-bottom-bracket-bsa

https://www.universalcycles.com/search.php?q=half+link

JohnS

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 8:48:23 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Cyclofiend Jim
>
> I think your eyes skipped over the words "coaster brake" (aka a foot-brake 
> rear hub) in this thread.  The original poster wants to put a coaster brake 
> rear wheel on their Clem.  Otherwise, spot-on suggestions.  :-)
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 1:37:11 PM UTC-8 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 10:15:35 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> The show stoppers that I would fear are:
>>
>> 1. A coaster brake requires a no-tensioner way to take up chain slack. 
>>  On normal cruisers, that's done with horizontal dropouts.  The Clem has 
>> vertical dropouts.  
>>
>>
>> Fixing chain slack on vertical dropouts is easily addressed with a chain 
>> tensioner. 
>> https://surlybikes.com/parts/singleator
>>
>> Or if you want a purpose-built wheel, check out the White ENO hub - 
>> https://www.whiteind.com/product/eno-flip-flop/
>>
>> If you go the hub route, you would have to leave the handbrakes in 
>> place 
>>
>> J
>>
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[RBW] Re: 1st world commuting dilemma

[JohnS]

Hello Josh,

The advice you've received so far is all good and I'm sure you'll find it 
to be very helpful. But have you considered asking your employer for secure 
bike parking? My current employer has bike lockers, locker rooms and 
showers, and a web page for bike commuters where people shared tips for 
commuting, recommended bike routes and the like. My previous employer had a 
parking garage where the ceiling sloped down so cars couldn't be parked 
there, but it was perfectly fine for bicycles. The bike parking area had a 
fence around it and a lot of the staple racks. They also provided locker 
rooms and showers. Years ago they used to give out coffee and donuts on 
Bike to Work Day. All of this was provided since people asked for it.

Seems to me that employers try to go out of their way promoting health and 
wellness, so take advantage of that when asking. Also are there other bike 
commuters or people who would like to bike to work but don't for one reason 
or another at the hospital? You may be more successful if there is a group 
making the request rather than one person. Lastly, is there a bicycle 
advocacy group in Indianapolis? They might be able to help you with you by 
providing cost estimates for racks or bike lockers.

Good luck and happy trails,
JohnS

On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 4:40:40 PM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Leah and others, 
>
> There are a plethora of cycle-specific products you can find that are 
> designed to hide an airtag. A quick google search produced this video: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zutcGa73kbM
>
> I personally use a generic "tagcozy" silicone holder that I've zip tied 
> underneath the nose of my saddle, above the rails. 
>
> However, I would spend the additional $$ and get a knog scout for all my 
> future bikes.
>
> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:33:50 AM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>
>> J - I like the idea of using the Pitlock skewers or the like. I've just 
>> gotten so used to using a cable through my front wheel that it's second 
>> nature now. I'm glad you're doing ok with your Chev in the city. 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:07:25 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> I've been leaving my Cheviot locked up with a single Kryptonite mini 
>>> U-lock around the frame in NYC for the past few month since I started 
>>> working there again
>>> [image: 002062 New-U Evolution Mini-5.jpg]
>>> I've got Pitlock skewers on my wheels so I'm not concerned with my kind 
>>> of expensive dynamo wheel set. ...don't even run cable through them.
>>> I should run some sort of permanent cable through my saddle loops to my 
>>> seat stays to prevent my seat post and my 20-year old B68 from being ripped 
>>> offWill do that next.  I think I can get a Pitlock for the seat cluster 
>>> bolt that is keyed the same as my skewers..  *note to call Peter White
>>> Yes, the U-lock can be cut, but I'm not leaving the bike out 
>>> overnight...and I think where I park it , it would be pretty glaring if 
>>> someone showed up with a angle grinder.
>>> Maybe there's a better more secure option for the U-lock.
>>> JS
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 8:53:33 AM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>>>
>>>> Armand - Hexlox are a good idea. My locking technique is pretty solid 
>>>> too. Also, not worrying just discussing. It’s not going to keep me up at 
>>>> night it just sort of dawned on me that I was riding a great, but somewhat 
>>>> less enjoyable bike for much of my riding and leaving my favorite bikes at 
>>>> home. I like your “just do it and stop worrying about it” mentality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kim - That’s a good point. I’ll give that one a read too. I liked the 
>>>> thread about not being precious with these bikes. They are both very 
>>>> applicable. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leah - Thanks for chiming in. After starting this thread someone posted 
>>>> to yours about being precious with Rivs and pushed it back to the top. 
>>>> I’ve 
>>>> read through that and it was exactly what I was looking for. You are 
>>>> correct in that Ana and Pam are prime examples. You can add Dorothy in 
>>>> SoCal, we’ve got Cody in Chicago, Patrick in Querque, Josiah in Missoula, 
>>>> Bill in the manager’s parking spot, Luke in San Fran, Armand in LA, and so 
>>>> on riding these things all over and locking ‘em up out in the wild. Count 
>>>> me in. 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 8:32:23 AM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dorothy -

Re: [RBW] Re: NBOD: New Bike Ordered Day! The mythical canti-Roa!

[JohnS]

Hello Bill,

The frame and fork look great! Love being able to see the craftmanship of 
the lugs and welds with out the paint in the way. It should be wonderful to 
ride once it's done. As for "lawyer lips", I have to agree that they are 
not my favorite. Lately my wife and I have been getting out for rides on 
our 33 year old, custom built Rodriguez tandem, so pre-LL fork drop outs. 
Just makes it so much easier to remove and install the front wheel. Hard to 
believe that was the standard for so many years (I know why they are there, 
no need for anyone to lecture the benefits of them).

JohnS

On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 3:56:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> It's threadless.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 12:31:27 PM UTC-8 Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>
>> Damn, Bill! That's going to be a dream bike. Maybe you've already covered 
>> this and I missed it, but I'm curious whether you went with a  threaded or 
>> threadless fork?
>>
>> Eamon
>> Seattle
>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:06:19 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Here is the Flickr album where I will post my photos.  
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003/
>>>
>>> There are several shots of the raw frame set in there now.  
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 7:13:08 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> I absolutely will be hoping for RivSister approval of my color way.  In 
>>>> my convo with Grant, he asked to photograph a number of the projects I've 
>>>> been working on or recently completed, like he may Blagh about it, and 
>>>> since this Canti-Roa is a relatively unique thing, I was going to give 
>>>> them 
>>>> first shot at the actual reveal.  
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, Ca
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 5:17:12 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I love seeing someone else's bike dream fulfilled! Congratulations on 
>>>>> your new bike day and what color did you paint your bike??! (I 
>>>>> promise you all your RivSisters want to know...) 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 8:19:18 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since starting this thread, I did spring for a fancy new wheel set 
>>>>>> that I'm pretty excited about.  I like the people and products at HED, 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> I appreciate their vestigial commitment to rim brakes.  They offer a 
>>>>>> premier rim treatment called RA black.  The rim is machined rough, and 
>>>>>> then 
>>>>>> hard anodized to give a super high friction braking surface.  It's 
>>>>>> supposed 
>>>>>> to be premier braking, and I'm excited to try it out.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mocking up the weights of things, I may be able to pull in a full 
>>>>>> build at 18.5 pounds without rack and fenders, and maybe (just maybe) at 
>>>>>> 19.99lbs with rack and fenders.  We'll see how it turns out...  it will 
>>>>>> not 
>>>>>> be red. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BL in EC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 9:23:07 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can hardly wait to see it built up! Long wait but worth it I'm sure 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 9:57:15 AM UTC-6 George Schick 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You gonna stick with the default red/white Roadeo color scheme or 
>>>>>>>> choose something else?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 8:45:33 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...and 20 months later, it has arrived!  Rivendell received my 
>>>>>>>>> Cantilever Roadeo from Nobilette this week, and it's off to paint.  I 
>>>>>>>>> paid 
>>>>>>>>> them a visit and gave it a look over.  It looks very nice and I'm 
>>>>>>>>> eager to 
>>>>>>>>> see it painted, and built up.  
>>>>>>

[RBW] Re: "Trust, but Verify"

[JohnS]

Thank you Jim for the reminder and thank you for being our admin/moderator. 
Much appreciated.

BTW, Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

JohnS


On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 1:11:02 PM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Putting on the admin cap this morning:
>
> I had a couple of members reach out to me regarding some interactions 
> following a "WTB/WTT" posting.
>
> They were contacted directly by a "member" who had just what they wanted. 
> Luckily, both of the original posters did a bit of due diligence and 
> realized that the images had been pulled from other forums, and the person 
> who contacted them had some fairly sketchy responses. Both individuals 
> wisely stepped away from the transaction. 
>
> This is a reminder that it's up to you to verify the validity of anyone 
> with whom you are dealing. One quick way to do so is by searching 
> conversations in this group under the person's email address. In this case 
> the "member" who exhibited hinky behavior had been in this group for all of 
> 6 days. They had not contributed to any conversations and were still 
> moderated. 
>
> Bear in mind that a moderated/unknown member can still contact you 
> directly. That's what this individual did in these cases. 
>
> As a reminder, if you are engaging in transactions, the onus is upon you 
> to confirm identity and validity of the person and conditions. Ask 
> questions. Require an image with today's newspaper or some other 
> verifiable, unique aspect. Search them in the group. 
> In other words, "Trust, but verify."
>
> Thankful, as always, for all of you in this group.
>
> admin mode OFF
>
> Jim
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[RBW] Re: Grips appreciation post

[JohnS]

I found these ODI soft X longneck grips on Blue Lug and really like them on 
Albatross bars. There available else were.

https://global.bluelug.com/odi-soft-x-longneck-grip-army-green.html

JohnS




On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 1:15:15 PM UTC-5 northfaring wrote:

> Looking for some grip inspo.  Please share your grips!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Problem solvers front cable hanger?

[JohnS]

This is timely, the Shove Research FMBCH...

https://shovelresearch.com/fork-mounted-brake-cable-hanger

Bling for the bike, about the same cost as the RH.

Back to Adam's point that fork mounted hangers won't work with center pull 
brakes, seems to me someone should make an integrated backing plate/hanger. 
That would nice!

JohnS


On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 5:16:32 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> One factor in reducing front brake cable friction is a gradual, "natural" 
> bend in the housing between its exit from the bar tape (aero levers, of 
> course) and where it meets the stop. If your stem is high so that the 
> housing leaves the bar tape (I'm assuming you use aero levers) far above 
> the housing stop then I expect that a hanger with the angled noodle can 
> actually make the bend tighter and less efficient for cable travel.
>
> Because my errand road bike (2020 Matthews custom) has a high stack -- 
> upsloping tt and extended steerer and head -- the stem and therefore the 
> bar is positioned relatively low above the headset. When I built the bike I 
> installed a very nice, stiff, steel Shimano hanger but it has only about 1 
> cm of drop. Together with the close bar the housing has to bend tightly 
> when it exits the tape to meet the hanger. In this case, the angled noodle 
> on the PS hanger would allow a more gradual bend.
>
> I recently bought a Rene Herse cable housing hanger, paying $59 because no 
> one else offers a stiff, silver, steerer-mount housing hanger with a deep 
> drop. While the Shimano hanger drops 1 cm, the RH drops fully 3.5 cm and 
> will allow a much more "natural" bend.
>
> I have to confess that the tight bend with the short Shimano hanger hasn't 
> caused a great deal of cable friction, but there's room for improvement, 
> and since this is a "nice" bike I want to reduce it to the minimum 
> possible. The longer RH hanger will do that. It also makes the housing bend 
> look nicer.
>
> Tektro offers a deep-drop hanger for about $13 but that one is quill 
> mounted so that you lose a cm of drop because it is clamped above headset 
> locknut and a thin spacer. Of course, the PS hanger not only clamps to the 
> quill but it's about a cm shorter than the Tektro and RH hangers.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 10:05:03 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> > Does anyone have experience with the problem solvers front cable hanger? 
> The one with a built-in "cable noodle"?
>
> > I had an LBS install Paul racers on my hillborne and they used one of 
> these. Changing the brake cables this week, I realized what an odd setup 
> the cable noodle thing is, it puts a 45ish degree bend in the cable for no 
> real reason. I'm > thinking that I should change the setup, any 
> recommendations? Or is this not an issue?
>
> > When I changed the cable, the little plastic sleeve inside the cable 
> noodle was cracked. Seems like a potential issue for no real purpose that I 
> can see. Unfortunately there isn't an actual cable stop built into the 
> hanger, so I think the > whole setup may need to be changed.
>
> > Thoughts, advice?
>
> > Here's the part:
>
> > 
> https://www.thebikerschoice.com/product/problem-solvers-clamp-on-cable-hanger-182078-1.htm?variations=926322,926354?utm_source=google%20shopping_medium=organic_id=18999470602_id===m=CjwKCAiA9dGqBhAqEiwAmRpTCxJ5qK9TD6hipo0RYCdZIeE5F_M3FbHVnzmIbVVSUoKWshTJSoWaCRoCHJMQAvD_BwE
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[RBW] Re: Silver shifter repair

[JohnS]

Looks good! It shouldn't come loose, nothing is acting on it to loosen it.

JohnS

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 11:19:14 PM UTC-5 MTR wrote:

> Posting my repair
>
>  I used the smallest sheet metal screw I could find at Ace 3/32 inch and 
> the matching drill bit to drill perpendicular through the shifter. If I did 
> it again I would've removed the shift cable to not damage it when drilling, 
> but leaving it in seemed to work ok too. 
>
> The sheet metal screw tapped into the aluminum shifter pretty easily with 
> just a little persuasion and seems to be holding pretty well. If it strips 
> or comes loose I'll run a small machine bolt through with a nylock nut. 
>
>
>
> [image: IMG_3929.jpeg][image: IMG_3931.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:27:08 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>> That's what I would do. I don't think there's any other options.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:04:11 PM UTC-5 MTR wrote:
>>
>>> I have a set Dia Comp knockoff silver shifters that have partially 
>>> broken, I was wondering if anybody had any ideas on how to fix them. See 
>>> the attached pictures to see how they're broken.
>>>
>>>  I thought for repair would be to drill a tiny hole and thread a screw 
>>> in there to hold it together.
>>>
>>>  Does anybody have any ideas?[image: IMG_3917 Large.jpeg][image: 
>>> IMG_3918 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Silver shifter repair

[JohnS]

That's what I would do. I don't think there's any other options.

JohnS


On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:04:11 PM UTC-5 MTR wrote:

> I have a set Dia Comp knockoff silver shifters that have partially broken, 
> I was wondering if anybody had any ideas on how to fix them. See the 
> attached pictures to see how they're broken.
>
>  I thought for repair would be to drill a tiny hole and thread a screw in 
> there to hold it together.
>
>  Does anybody have any ideas?[image: IMG_3917 Large.jpeg][image: IMG_3918 
> Large.jpeg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best way to arrange 2-cog manual shifting for "single speed" disc braked bicycle

[JohnS]

Hello Patrick,

Did anyone mention the All City Nature Box 853 SSCX disk brake bike? The 
rear disk brake mount is slotted to allow for alignment. No idea how easy 
that would be to adjust on the fly.

JohnS
[image: AllCityNatureBoyRearDropOut.jpg]

On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 12:17:34 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> The updated numbers now corroborate the qualitative claim that it won't 
> fit.  So, have you ordered your new Paul Disc WORD hub yet?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 7:50:30 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Sorry, not 5 mm, the usual ~2mm Shimano spacer. Actually I think it's a 9 
>> speed spacer.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:09 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick Moore claims to have a 5mm spacer + a 3/32" cog on a hub.  
>>> Assuming his story is accurate, that's a stack up of 7.38mm
>>>
>>> Wesley said "put another cog on there", to which Patrick Moore said 
>>> there would be no room for the chain.  
>>>
>>> 8-speed Shimano cassette cogs are 1.8mm thick, and the right spacer 
>>> between Shimano 8-speed cassette cogs is 3.0mm in thickness.  So, if your 
>>> stack up was COG+SPACER+COG then that would add up to 1.8mm + 3.0mm + 1.8mm 
>>> = 6.6mm.  That's a shorter stack up than what you have, and would have a 
>>> spacing between cogs that you know works.  What's the problem?  Would the 
>>> "inner" cog run up against the spokes or something?  It sounds to me like 
>>> you have ample room to try two cogs plus a spacer and see what you think.  
>>> You frequently describe your box full of all generations of 7, 8, 9, 10 
>>> speed cassette cogs and spacers.  Give it a go!
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 4:09:12 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> I could indeed get a second cog into the place of the spacer but  
>>>> there'd be no room for the chain.
>>>>
>>>> No, good thought, but you'd need 5 mm more of space for: big cog + 
>>>> spacer + small cog; then lockring. As it is, the big cog and small cog 
>>>> would have to butt up against each other; no room for chain.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:18 PM Wesley  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ah. Can you not remove the 5mm spacer? That should be enough room for 
>>>>> a second cog, IMO.
>>>>> -W
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 3:02:19 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not mine, said by seller to be a 2012 model. I have a 5 mm spacer, 
>>>>>> then the 3/32" cog, and then the lockring threads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to know that the caliper (again, list, almost vertically atop 
>>>>>> the rotor at top dead center, but actually offset a cm or two forward) 
>>>>>> can 
>>>>>> accommodate a bit of fore/aft axle movement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 3:56 PM Wesley  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Patrick,
>>>>>>> My recollection of my monocog was that the freehub had room for 
>>>>>>> three cogs. I think there were spacers on the hub that covered up most 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> the free hub - remove the locking and you can do adjust the spacers as 
>>>>>>> necessary. If yours is the same, then you could just keep that wheel 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> put the additional cogs onto it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, in case I wasn't clear in my earlier response, I think there is 
>>>>>>> plenty of adjustment room in the disc brakes to accommodate the rear 
>>>>>>> axle 
>>>>>>> being adjusted in the dropout.
>>>>>>> -Wes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 10:44:19 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's interesting, and after blundering into a few search result 
>>>>>>>> pages about money markets and currency conversion I got:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.monebikes.com/read-me/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But he says nothing about adjustable chainstays,
>>>

[RBW] Re: Perfection from the last newsletter

[JohnS]

I was impressed by that bike as well. Looks like it's ready to go anywhere.

JohnS


On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-4 jamin orrall wrote:

> The bike belongs to Masa, more photos and info here:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/james-japan-pics
>
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 10:36:41 AM UTC-4 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> I love this build so much, Rivendell perfection in my book.  Posting here 
>> in case anyone missed it! 
>>
>> [image: riv all rounder.jpeg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Wheel Builder

[JohnS]

Josh,

Your Atlantis looks great with the new wheels. I'm a big fan of WI hubs (I 
have 3 wheelsets with them now). I think you'll be very happy with them. 
The rear hub clicking sound doesn't bother to me either.

JohnS

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:09:59 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:

> Reporting back on the Peter White built cliffhanger set. They look great 
> and the White Ind rear hub sounds great, very quiet IMO. Doesn’t sound any 
> louder than a shimano to be honest. I guess it may get louder with time, we 
> will see
>
> [image: IMG_0669.jpeg][image: IMG_0668.jpeg]
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> Velocity USA builds their wheels in Grand Rapids MI.  I am very happy 
>> with the set I ride on.
>>
>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 8:13:50 AM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> I could use a recommendation for a good wheel builder. I've used 
>>> prowheelbuilder.com in the past and have no complaints. Not sure how I 
>>> landed on them. Just curious if there is another business that I should be 
>>> looking into? I'm located in Indianapolis as well, and would prefer sending 
>>> business to a local or at least midwest company if possible.  
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a set of 700c wheels for my Atlantis. I'm thinking I'll 
>>> do velocity cliffhangers with a SON up front and a nice rear hub. The rear 
>>> is not yet totally decided as I like quiet hubs but there are not many 
>>> options in rim brake, 36-40h hubs these days. I've got an onyx silent hub 
>>> on my crust and love it but they only go up to 32h and I'd prefer 36 or 40 
>>> as I'm a big dude. Which is why I'm thinking about a white industry (loud 
>>> as they come) rear hub in 36 or 40h. 
>>>
>>> Anyway. I'd like to hear about your preferred wheel builders. 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: New MKS Pretzel pedals coming out next month

[JohnS]

Must be a MKS thing, pretzel, taco... what's next the nacho pedals???

John


On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 12:35:10 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> I’ve seen it in-person and … I’ll pass. 
>
> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 3:50:19 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Bill
>>
>> Thank you for your information. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 2:36 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> "Curious as to whether or not they would accept the cage extension that 
>>> currently RBW sells."
>>>
>>> The Pretzel pedal has the cage extension BUILT IN.  You won't need the 
>>> cage extension with the Pretzel.  It's already in there.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:45:51 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I came across  these new MKS Pretzel pedals, while looking for something 
>>> else on the MKS website. They definitely look like they a twist to them, 
>>> like a pretzel.  Curious as to whether or not they would accept the cage 
>>> extension that currently RBW sells.  
>>>
>>> https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/news/node/453
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
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[RBW] Re: Riv Road spotted

[JohnS]

Thanks for sharing Paul, that's one clean machine.

JohnS

On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 1:40:30 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Shinier than my 2001 road
>
> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 9:45:41 AM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> While eating at one of our favorite coffee shops near Jamestown, Va. (on 
>> the Va. Capital Trail) recently, our group spotted this near-pristine 
>> Rivendell Road (?) parked at the outside deck. 
>> I don't see many of these in my neck of the woods so stopped to ask. The 
>> owner bought it new (maybe late 1990's?). I doesn't seem to have gotten 
>> much use, but maybe he is super-careful with the bike.[image: Inline 
>> image]
>>
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS ALBATROSS BARS

[JohnS]

The chromoly version is magnetic.

JohnS

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:23:39 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> If its the aluminum version it will have a sticker/band around the bar 
> near the sleeve. Either black or red I think?? I can't remember. If its the 
> chromoly version then not to nitpick but the price is higher than the new 
> price.
>
> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:15:13 PM UTC-4 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
>> I believe chromoly, I've had them for sometime and forgotten.
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:32:03 AM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>
>>> Are they ChroMoly or aluminum?
>>> cheers,
>>> Andrew in Sydney
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 11:50:28 PM GMT+10, Davey Two Shoes <
>>> dgold...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Gang,
>>> I've got an albatross for sale $90 plus shipping. Shoot me a PM and I'll 
>>> email pics. I cant seem to upload right now.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dave
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Re: [RBW] Paul Racer Brake Noise/Vibration

[JohnS]

Hello Ben, maybe it would help the group if you were to post a picture or 
two of your current set up.

Thanks,
JohnS


On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 10:56:34 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good to know...but if my brake is mounted on the fork, I'm not sure where 
> I'd mount a fork-mounted cable hanger. 
>
> Ben
>
> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 9:50:52 AM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> This is a common complaint with headset-mounted cable hangers. Changing 
>> to a fork-mounted hanger usually alleviates the problem. Shovel Research 
>> just released a nice one: 
>> https://shovelresearch.com/fork-mounted-brake-cable-hanger
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2023, at 5:54 AM, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I just got a new set of Racer (regular) brakes for my sidepull Hillborne. 
>> Everything's set up, the brakes are grabbing/stopping, but I'm getting the 
>> most horrific noises from the pads on the front brakes. I'm using the Kool 
>> Stop Thinlines that Paul sends with the brakes. I set them up following the 
>> instructions from Paul initially (no toe-in), and the brakes squealed on 
>> the first test ride. So I toed them in and now I'm getting this awful 
>> vibration when the pads touch the rims that gets louder/more intense with 
>> speed. The vibration can be felt in the saddle...all through the frame. 
>> Truly harrowing stuff here. When I full pull the brake levers, the 
>> vibration kind of goes away but I get a light squeal (even with brakes toed 
>> in). 
>>
>> I've never set up centerpull brakes or any brakes with a straddle 
>> wire/hanger. I can't see how the problem could be from anything but how the 
>> pads are hitting. I've double checked to see that the unit is centered when 
>> I tighten it. The one goofy thing I'm noticing is that the right arm of the 
>> brake seems lower because I have the pad set higher in the arm than on the 
>> left side...but I've taken the pads off completely and recentered the brake 
>> unit and I'm getting the same results.
>>
>> I've read a little about how big frames (this is a 62cm Sam) can have the 
>> vibrations because of the length of cable and how tension varies through 
>> the pull (or something like that). I've also read that this kind issue 
>> could be from cheap/flimsly brakes...but I would hope that Paul brakes 
>> would be above suspicion here. I've also heard that if something is loose 
>> on the brake assembly, the vibrations can happen.
>>
>> However...I'm convinced it's in how I have the pads set...I don't get 
>> vibrations when the pads are not toed-in...toeing in almost seems to bring 
>> about the vibrations. 
>>
>> Any ideas anyone has would be very helpful. I'm at the end of my rope and 
>> considering removing the Pauls and going back to the squisy and not very 
>> good Tektros Riv put on it originally.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ben in Omaha
>>
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[RBW] Re: Source for headset locking/key'd spacer

[JohnS]

This is what you're looking for and at a $1.00, you'll probably pay more in 
shipping.

https://www.thebicyclechain.com/product/sunlite-keyed-lock-headset-washer-394262-1.htm

I've not dealt with them, they were the cheapest I could fined.

JohnS

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 5:01:34 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> My Roadini frame came this week (exciting) but the headset is missing the 
> locking spacing. The thin guy with the tiny nipple thing. I don't have a 
> great local shop to check with so I was going to just buy one because they 
> have to be cheap but the only one I can find it a sunlite black one. No 
> silver. Anyone know where to find one of these things? 

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[RBW] Re: Riv Ride: Chicago Lakefront Trail Recap

[JohnS]

Thank you for sharing Leah, looks like it was a great ride!

JohnS

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 10:19:35 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> We had 10 riders join us for our Chicago ride yesterday! 
> In attendance: 
> 1 silver Appaloosa (fun fact: it belonged to Will Keating) 
> 1 green Hunq
> 1 A. Homer Hilsen
> 2 blue Sam Hillbornes
> 1 lime olive Clem L
> 1 yellow Legolas
> 1 blue Rivendell road custum
> 1 red Erickson
> 1 raspberry Platypus
>
> We began at Mack’s Bike and Goods in Evanston, where we were greeted 
> warmly by Sam and Kelly Mack. They graciously set out coffee and 
> refreshments, took photos and talked all the bike talk with our riders as 
> we shopped their excellent store. If you are in the area, please go and see 
> them; they carry all of our favorite things. We took photos and belatedly 
> hit the road.
>
> We had several miles to ride before connecting with Chicago’s famous 
> Lakefront Trail. The clouds were thick and the winds were high. We dodged 
> triathletes, throngs of people, and later, the Chicago Bears fans. We were 
> treated to gorgeous scenery and the sounds of crashing waves on the shores 
> of Lake Michigan as we pedaled along our path. The rain held off and we 
> arrived intact (minus one Legolas front cantilever brake) and upright, 
> ready for lunch. We at the famous Billy Goat Tavern and then some of us 
> peeled off for other destinations. The Lone Wolf and I were fortunate to 
> keep 2 of our guides, Sean and Davey, who graciously offered to ride us 
> back to the trail that would lead us to Evanston. But first, they escorted 
> us through the heart of Chicago, where we enjoyed fabulous bike 
> infrastructure (including an elevated bike path!) and viewings of the 
> city’s historical buildings. Marc and I had over 40 miles when we arrived 
> back at the shop.
>
> Thank you to everyone who joined us! Below are a few photos, but even 
> better, a link to the Post Ride Video on my Instagram. I’ll be changing the 
> privacy back to “private” in a week or so, so try to view it before then.
>
> Leah
>
> Instagram: 
> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CweJZD5gkCE/?igshid=NzZhOTFlYzFmZQ==
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[RBW] Re: 26” MTB Tire Advice

[JohnS]

Hello Bones,

I built up a Specialized M2 Stumpjumper with Panaracer Gravel King SK tires 
that are 26 x 2.1. I use it as a gravel bike. The tires are for best for 
gravel and light duty single track, not as supple as RH Rat Trap Pass, 
which are better suited for road and hard packed cinder/gravel rail trails. 
I got the SK from e-bay for $107 for the pair. I got the Rat Trap Pass 
tires used from a list member.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303917075015

JohnS




On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 12:34:32 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:

> I find Schwalbe usually has some good offerings. You can search by "inch" 
> to find 26x2,2.1,2.25...
>
> Edwin
>
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 11:22:45 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Do you know ANYBODY who used to ride?  26" tires accumulate in any garage 
>> that hosts riders.  Find some for free!  Or is it so late that everybody 
>> has already thrown everything away?  
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 8:59:55 AM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> I recently pulled my wife’s old Cannondale F5 hardtail out of 
>>> hibernation with the intention of moving it along, but she now has a 
>>> renewed interest in it. It cleaned up nicely, but the tires are falling 
>>> apart. It looks like it can comfortably fit a 26x2.25, but I haven’t used a 
>>> 26” tire since the early 90’s so I don’t know where to start. If anyone can 
>>> point me to to a decent all around trail tire that doesn’t break the bank, 
>>> I’d greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

[JohnS]

Hello Bill,

FWIW, my orange QB has the same "frenchie mid fork tabs". The work fine and 
they seem to be original to the bike.

JohnS


On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:46:22 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Your OP claimed that all the details were on the Crust site.  That listing 
> has been deleted, and the one that is now "active" doesn't have an explicit 
> build list.  It looks like there's a dynamo hub, but in some of the photos 
> there's a headlamp, and others not.  Your buyer may want an enumerated list 
> of what they are actually buying.  An entrepreneurial type may see that 
> list as a project to sell down parts and end up with a super cheap QB 
> frameset!  
>
> Also, what's the story with the fork braze ons.  Were those factory?  Or 
> did you have that changed?  I'm not used to seeing frenchie mid fork tabs 
> like that on a Rivendell.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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[RBW] Re: New Build Day! Two Speed Road Bike

[JohnS]

Very cool build Bill, should be fun ride. I can see the value in a two 
speed, I think I'll do one sometime.

JohnS


On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 1:06:29 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I pounced on a local 59cm Romulus.  That bike has long been on my list of 
> "I'd ride THAT" bikes, but it wasn't a terribly high priority.  This 
> opportunity presented itself and got to work.  
>
> Cutting to the chase: here's the album  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720310604809
>
> The bike was a mostly original Riv complete Rom build.  It had a mustache 
> bar cockpit, and Silver bar con shifters, but otherwise was pretty much 
> stock.  It's got nicks and scratches beau-sage but was in mechanically fine 
> shape.  
>
> This is going to be a versatile road platform upon which I could implement 
> a number of different build concepts.  The one that had been sticking in my 
> mind, though, was a front-derailleur only road two speed.  The forthcoming 
> Roaduno is allegedly going to have both a rear der hanger as well as the 
> braze on bits to do a FRONT shifter.  Some listers vocally proclaimed that 
> "silly", but it seems pretty sensible to me.  I had not executed a build of 
> that kind, and this was my shot.  
>
> From "inventory" I pulled together a nice two speed road bike kit:
>
> The wheelset was "inherited" from my Crust Florida Man., which lives in 
> Michigan.  When I built that bike, I used stuff I had on-hand, including a 
> pair of HED Belgium rims.  Those are almost impossible to get anymore, so I 
> built a new set of wheels around cheaper and wider rims to bring that 
> wheelset back to California.  I just grabbed them off the hook.  I put a 
> pair of used Compass Steilacoom 700x38 knobbier on there (with latex 
> tubes!) and grabbed a 16/18 DOS ENO freewheel.  The rear hub is Surly Ultra 
> New.  The front is a Phil Track hub.  I tossed on a pair of Shimano 
> "CLICKR" SPD pedals.  
>
> The drivetrain centers on a Campy Centaur 172.5mm square taper cranks
> Origin8 sealed BB (110.5)
> blue chain guard
> 39T tripleizer ring
> 24T ring from the original Rom build
>
> The front derailleur is a heavily modified FSA that I had from earlier 
> experiments.  The shift lever is a Shimano Ultegra "triple-color" model 
> from he 1990s with an awesome return spring inside to make it really light 
> action.  The tensioner is a modified XT rapid rise.  There's no return 
> spring inside, from a desmodromic exploration.  I was able to adjust one 
> limit screw so it hits the 16T cog.  The other limit screw was too short, 
> so I replaced it with a long socket head M4x0.7mm bolt.  I can turn that 
> one with my fingers.  Dialed out the RD "falls" to the 18T cog.  Dialed in 
> I can push it to the 16.  
>
> The cockpit includes other parts box items.  I got the Salsa stem really 
> cheap only to find it's like 25.8mm in clamp diameter.  I was waiting for a 
> working-class build to force it to 26.0mm.  I spread it wide and got a 
> 420mm Nitto Noodle in there.  I used the stock brake levers and some orange 
> Newbaums.  I kept the original Nitto 65 seat post and installed the Brooks 
> Pro saddle reclaimed from "Shawn's Hetchins".  
>
> Now it's ready to ride (after the shellac dries).  Maybe this will inspire 
> some of the Roaduno builds later this year.  Enjoy
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell In Paris

[JohnS]

Thank Eric!

La chouette = "the owl" or "very useful word you can use to describe 
something that you like or you think is nice or cool." Seems most 
appropriate.

JohnS

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:19:36 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Guess what I found in Paris! A local Rivendell dealer! 20 Boulevard 
> Magenta in the 10th.
>
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[RBW] Re: Broken shifters

[JohnS]

If that doesn't help, you could repurpose them as key chains. I did that 
with some old Campy down tube shifters recently.

JohnS

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:05:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Hello Pam,
>
> I had a problem with Suntour power shifters (ratchet mechanism just like 
> the Silvers) which caused the ratchet to not work, sounded like it was 
> grinding or slipping. I found that by taking the shifter apart, cleaning 
> the washers and applying a thin coat of light oil helped. Worth a try. Not 
> sure if the oil is recommended or not, maybe someone else can chime in.
>
> Good luck,
> JohnS
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I have several broken Silver shifters.  The power ratchet doesn't work 
>> any more.  My question is if I can get a part to fix the ratchet.  If not, 
>> should I throw them in the metal recycling or is there anything I can use 
>> later?  I'm not a mechanical person.  I just know the ratchet wouldn't hold 
>> after I replaced the plastic washer and when I put a new shifter on, it 
>> worked.  
>
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[RBW] Re: Broken shifters

[JohnS]

Hello Pam,

I had a problem with Suntour power shifters (ratchet mechanism just like 
the Silvers) which caused the ratchet to not work, sounded like it was 
grinding or slipping. I found that by taking the shifter apart, cleaning 
the washers and applying a thin coat of light oil helped. Worth a try. Not 
sure if the oil is recommended or not, maybe someone else can chime in.

Good luck,
JohnS

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I have several broken Silver shifters.  The power ratchet doesn't work any 
> more.  My question is if I can get a part to fix the ratchet.  If not, 
> should I throw them in the metal recycling or is there anything I can use 
> later?  I'm not a mechanical person.  I just know the ratchet wouldn't hold 
> after I replaced the plastic washer and when I put a new shifter on, it 
> worked.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[JohnS]

Awesome news Eric, glad to hear you're Hillborne is back on the road!

JohnS


On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 5:17:41 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> After twenty miles today with no chain jumping I'm calling this solved. 
>
> [image: sh.jpg]
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 11:42:39 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> huzzah!
>>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 10:12:15 AM UTC-4 ride2almo...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What a great outcome 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:09 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Ryan and Danny. Just rode another 3 miles on a quick bank 
>>>> errand, no skips. Will have to try a longer ride when it dries out. 
>>>>
>>>> Also installed a Brooks Pro I purchased from Two Wheeled Texan's Grand 
>>>> Relocation Parts Blowout and I liked it! 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 10:15:42 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Glad this saga had a happy ending!I bet you're relieved
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 8:20:22 PM UTC-5 Danny wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ooops, didn't see your update just before I posted. Glad you got it 
>>>>>> worked out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 8:16:54 PM UTC-5 Danny wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm curious to hear what ends up resolving the issue. I hope it's as 
>>>>>>> easy as a new cassette, but I'm most intrigued by it being related to 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> elongated hole.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Re: alignment tools, after borrowing my friend's Park DAG a handful 
>>>>>>> of times over a few months, I decided to buy my own tool. Ended up with 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> Wolf Tooth one that Stephen linked to. Have only used it once so far, 
>>>>>>> but I 
>>>>>>> found it to work quite well. Doesn't take up much room in the drawer, 
>>>>>>> and I 
>>>>>>> don't have to endure the frequent screeching of metal sliding on metal 
>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>> I experienced with the Park tool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Danny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:52 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George: Thanks for reading along! Yes, the Helicoil seems like a 
>>>>>>>> more robust solution, I agree. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jason: Noted! If only Riv would bring back those beefy headset 
>>>>>>>> presses they got a super limited run of a few years ago. Never need 
>>>>>>>> one 
>>>>>>>> but... they seemed awesome. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 8:21:45 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric, you've *got* to get a DAG alignment tool!  The heavy steel 
>>>>>>>>> one, avoid the new lighter one. It's a must have for the home 
>>>>>>>>> mechanic of 
>>>>>>>>> fine steel frames that do not have replaceable hangers.  I use it 
>>>>>>>>> every 
>>>>>>>>> time the derailleur is pulled off for any reason, or if I'm having 
>>>>>>>>> any 
>>>>>>>>> stubborn shifting issue - it's amazing how often it's just because 
>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> alignment was out slightly. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 12:17:13 UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is one of the more interesting posts/threads having to do 
>>>>>>>>>> with bike repairs that has come along in awhile (with no intention 
>>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>>> downplay the unfortunate accident!).  I like the final post about a 
>>>>>>>>>> Helicoil or dropout saver recommendation.  My own preference would 
>>>>>>>>>> likely 
>>>>>>>>>> be the Helicoil because you have to tap in new larger diameter 
>>>>>>>>>> thre

[RBW] Re: Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[JohnS]

A project is always a good excuse for buying a new tool, as a friend of my 
use to say. May as well splurge on the alignment tool and see how it works 
out. Personally I'm suspicions of the elongated bolt hole, not sure why, 
but it doesn't look good. Any frame builders in a hour or two drive from 
you? If I were in your shoes I would take it to Bilenky Cycle Works 
<https://www.bilenky.com/> in Philly, I've heard good things about them and 
they always have great looking bikes at the Philly Bike Expo.

Good luck,
JohnS

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:49:34 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Your local shops sound like non-starters, if the one isn't confident and 
> the other is bad juju. Freighting the bike coast-to-coast and back  to Riv  
> + their labor   sounds like it's not a deal-breaker. Sounds like the west 
> coast is the mecca for framebuilders. I have no idea about the east coast 
> or mid-US. I wonder if you could get a second opinion from Mark 
> Nobilette...although I would not be surprised if he is retired or 
> contemplating retirement. 
>
>  I've bought 3 bikes from Riv2 customs and many parts and while the 
> wait time may be long, I would totally trust them to move heaven and earth 
> to get your bike right. If it means that much to you I would put myself in 
> their hands. You have that established  relationship with them. 
>
> My .002CAD...good luck. I'm sure you'll resolve this one way or another
>
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:21:49 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> And sheep in your poster , if I recall correctly. Very bucolic
>>
>> I feel you  about the freight. Are there no reputable builders closer to 
>> you who could do the repair? In a neighbouring state perhaps?
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:03:10 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Ryan. Yes, I think the cost for the repair would be reasonable. 
>>> I worry the cost to freight the frame would be a little painful and the 
>>> time without the bike could be considerable depending on how it shakes out. 
>>>
>>> The poster is the MTB countryside illustration, same illustrator who did 
>>> yours. "Get away fast on a Bridgestone" or something like that. Hills, dirt 
>>> road, country church. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:36:10 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yikes! That is too bad but I'm glad you weren't hurt. I know you are 
>>>> very ingenious, but maybe the frame needs to be sent to Riv for repair? 
>>>> Who 
>>>> will no doubt do the repair at a reasonable cost
>>>>
>>>> Which poster? I have the "saddle up on a bridgestone"...my favorite of 
>>>> the Grant-inspired ones...the one with the rider on a roadbike alongside a 
>>>> galloping horse. Can't remember if I bought it from Rivendell or from a 
>>>> friend of mine who built many of my wheels and at one time was a 
>>>> bridgestone dealer and sold me my 1993 X0-1 that I still have
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:55:39 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That does not look good. Maybe once you get it into a stand and 
>>>>> carefully remove the derailleur and gently realign the hanger you will be 
>>>>> fine. The rear der pully cage can probably be bent back into shape. Issue 
>>>>> is probably trusting it. Hope things work out. Glad you were not hurt. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Reginald Alexis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:13:02 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture. 
>>>>>> I rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 
>>>>>> 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank 
>>>>>> while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a 
>>>>>> go 
>>>>>> as a single speed. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that 
>>>>>> time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the 
>>>>>> spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

[JohnS]

Very nice ride Jamin, thanks for sharing.

JohnS

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 10:55:58 AM UTC-4 jamin orrall wrote:

> Keep an eye out for an 80's specialized sequoia, they are wonderful bikes. 
>  Fits 32's or 650b's with tektro r559s, rides like a fast Rivendell but a 
> little flexier. One of my favorite bikes.
> [image: IMG_6651.JPG]
> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 8:08:18 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> Thanks! The saddle height in that picture is probably between 79-80.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 12:55:05 PM UTC-4 jhri...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Bones, that's a beautiful Roadini build. Could I ask your saddle height? 
>>> I'm 78.5ish with an 89.5 PBH and having a difficult time deciding between 
>>> frames myself.
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:46:37 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Wow, an '81 Sequoia! Those are very rare since only about 700 were made 
>>>> by hand. In '82 is when production ramped up. Please post a picture if you 
>>>> can.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:58:26 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Very nice build, Bones!  B) 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I started with an Appaloosa, which I built as a workhorse to ferry my 
>>>>>> kids around. I wanted something without all the racks and utility so I 
>>>>>> purchased a Hillborne. Great bike, but I found it too similar to my 
>>>>>> Appaloosa so I moved it along and bought a Roadini. It was exactly what 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> was looking for. No, it is not a delicate, lightweight bike. That is to 
>>>>>> my 
>>>>>> benefit, as I can do stupid things to it without worrying about it being 
>>>>>> damaged. It is a Rivendell, and it rides like all of my other 
>>>>>> Rivendells. 
>>>>>> It currently resides at my parents' house, and I make a point to ride it 
>>>>>> whenever I visit. I love that bike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: roadini2.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:49:48 AM UTC-4 chasenl...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_4997.jpeg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am about 200 miles into my orange-ass roadini and I love it. Set 
>>>>>>> up with a23s, dirt drops, cavas and an analog 30mm stem. It is not 
>>>>>>> flexy 
>>>>>>> and light like my rb 2. It is no sports car. Its like a benz, smooth 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> comfy. I have a 90 stumpjumper (that I’m convinced could be the worlds 
>>>>>>> greatest bicycle), and the roadini is v similar, minus canti post, add 
>>>>>>> practical geometry. It is definitely stout, which makes the lack of 
>>>>>>> rack 
>>>>>>> mounts annoying, but its not t stout. To me, it feels like a road 
>>>>>>> tourer, not a zippy speed machine. I think a crust mallochio or 
>>>>>>> lightning 
>>>>>>> bolt might be lighter/flexier/zippier. 
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:03:16 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This paragraph is from Will's recent email... If this sounds like 
>>>>>>>> what you're looking for then I say buy one. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Yes, the Roadini is heavier than a carbon frame, but, and even 
>>>>>>>> though it's a cliche phrase at this point, *it rides light* and I 
>>>>>>>> don't care if I'm two minutes slower than my alternate-universe self 
>>>>>>>> who 
>>>>>>>> rides a carbon bike. I still feel fast on it, and I'm not racing 
>>>>>>>> anybody 
>>>>>>>> anyway, even myself. My bike priorities are safety, comfort, 
>>>>>>>> reliability, 
>>>>>>>> and the ability to stretch the bike beyond it's stated purpose. Most 
>>>>>>>> of you 
>>>>>>>

Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[JohnS]

Grant steps up again and delivered the goods! I would love to see their 
parts stash, box o' frame parts here, forks over there

JohnS 

On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 9:28:40 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:

> Possibly dumb question: have you taken a good look at your chain? It ay be 
> kinked, which would cause skipping gears.
> -Wes
>
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 4:04:01 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Andre attempted to make some further adjustments, the chain still skips. 
>> I tried installing a Deore XT M771 and that was a little bit better but the 
>> chain still skips. 
>>
>> I called Riv and talked to Grant who was eager to see some pictures. Will 
>> has a new dropout heading to me by mail, now I just need to find someone 
>> who can braze the new dropout on. The framebuilder I know has transitioned 
>> from building bikes to chartering boats! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:43:30 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday I brought the frame to my LBS, Bike Works and handed it over 
>>> to trusted mechanic Andre. He bent the hanger, aligned the dropouts and 
>>> aligned the hanger. The hanger alignment tool showed the hanger was in 
>>> plane with the rim. Amazingly the hole took a derailer bolt just fine. It 
>>> looks terrible but functionality seemed promising. This was all I cared 
>>> about.
>>>
>>> You can see the hole is terribly elongated. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6872.JPG] 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6871.JPG]
>>>
>>> Here's my wavy hanger.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6880.JPG]
>>>
>>> Fortunately I have a small collection of Cyclones to draw from. The last 
>>> one I mangled was beautiful old stock. This one here is almost as nice. 
>>>
>>> The bike shifted fine in the stand. But on the road and under load the 
>>> chain skips in the smallest four cogs. 
>>>
>>> Tomorrow I'll take it back to Andre and see if he can't finesse it into 
>>> shape. 
>>> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:38:04 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Patrick: Sorry about that Fargo but glad to hear it could be repaired. 
>>>> Replaceable hangers seem helpful!
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:41:41 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And: I had Chauncey Matthews use a replaceable hanger when he built 
>>>>> the replacement for the Fargo.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 8:38 AM Patrick Moore  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW, I had a similar experience with a Fargo when a stick jammed the 
>>>>>> rd: the hangar was bent 90* inward (and jammed into the cassette; no 
>>>>>> single-speeding home). The good news, and the point: a LBS was able to 
>>>>>> unbend the rd to usable status again. The replacement rd worked fine. Of 
>>>>>> course, YMMV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 7:50 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks, John. I'll check out the spokes. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been texting with my local mechanic friend, Andre. We're going 
>>>>>>> to try and bend the hanger and see how close we can get it. Considering 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>> drop out saver from Wheels Mfg. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that fails I'll see about having a new dropout installed. I gotta 
>>>>>>> call Will when Riv opens!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow Eric, that was a bad one, glad your ok and the Sam is on the 
>>>>>>>> mend. Don't forget to check the spokes for nicks, could break easy if 
>>>>>>>> they 
>>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JohnS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 7:54:06 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow. That's wild. Glad you're ok. Bummer about the Sam, that's a 
>>>>>>>>> beautiful bike.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:08:55 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 

Re: [RBW] Re: Early 80's Specialized Sequoia

[JohnS]

Hello Erik,

Nice looking Sequoia! I agree, my '82 has a nice ride feel to it as well. I 
did a 60 mile ride this past Saturday on it, very comfortable, fits very 
well. You can check the year of your bike by looking at the serial number 
stamped on the bottom bracket. Mine starts with M2, indicating 1982, so I 
would think you bike would be M6.

JohnS

On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:01:55 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Hey Erik!
>
> Fun to see that old sequoia pop up on here, still got a soft spot in my 
> heart for that bike! Good memories..
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 2:04:33 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>> Just so y’all know, TD is kind of a local legend. He is, after all, one 
>> of Richard Schwinn’s best pals.
>>
>>
>> Anyone who read Grant's Blahg entry on the closing of Waterford will know 
>> that Richard Schwinn has more best pals than just about anyone you can 
>> name. I happen to be lucky enough to live near him and his true best pal, 
>> his wife, Shoe. And I get to see them regularly at Milwaukee Symphony 
>> Orchestra concerts.
>>
>> Regarding my Waterford  keep your eyes out for the next issue of 
>> American Randonneur.
>>
>>  Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Early 80's Specialized Sequoia

[JohnS]

Yep, Costner rode a red Allez in American Flyers, fun bike movie. I'll have 
to torture my family and watch it again some time. 

JohnS

On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 7:58:34 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> My bad...screwed up the colors. Anyway, I do remember being impressed by 
> how thoughtfully these bikes were designed and equipped, and the fact that 
> your 82 Sequoia (and no doubt 83 Expedition) is still going strong is a 
> testament to that.
>
> Other fun fact...I think the team bike on *American Flyers *starring 
> Kevin Costner was a Specialized Allez ; red, I think
>
> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:59:57 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>> The early 80's Sequoia was the sport/touring model, in the middle between 
>> the road race Allez and the full on touring Expedition. Not sure what color 
>> options were available. I use to own an 83 Expedition in gray/anthracite. 
>> My 82 Sequoia is dark blue. It's not a feather weight, nor is it a tank, 
>> weigh in at just over 23 pounds with pedals and two water bottle cages. 
>> Fully lugged Tange chrome-moly tubing, with long thinned lugs, it has nice 
>> neutral handling, mounts for fenders and a rear rack and room for 32mm 
>> tires (maybe 35).
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:12:35 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> I also suspect they varied tubing sets basis frame size ; something that 
>>> Bridgestones also did , if you read their ad copy
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:04:43 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>>> I remember *Bicycle Guide* praising those Sequoias for their fine ride 
>>>> and careful craftsmanship, but they pointed out that the bikes weren't 
>>>> particularly light. Sport-touring? I also remember Specialized having a 
>>>> full-bore touring bike with all required the braze-ons for fenders/racks 
>>>> 3- 
>>>> water bottle braze-ons called the Expedition, appropriately and I seem to 
>>>> recall in *Bicycling *ads that these were dark blue. Maybe that's what 
>>>> your friend toured on?
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:44:15 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Were there different versions of the Sequoia?  The one I was familiar 
>>>>> with was a dark metalic grey one, but I think it came in dark blue, too.  
>>>>> It wA a fantastic bike, built by Toyo if I remember correctly. But I 
>>>>> thought it was a full-on touring bike, with heavy tubing, low bottom 
>>>>> bracket  shallow seat tub angle - compared to sportier bikes of the era.  
>>>>> My friend used his for numerous, long, heavily-loaded tours, including a 
>>>>> months-long, dirt-road (mud) trek from Montana to Alaska and back.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:13 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:57:41 AM UTC-4 Peter Bridge wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did your noticeably heavy Sequoia perhaps have heavy wheels or 
>>>>>> thornproof tubes or a spring Brooks saddle or some such?  I find 
>>>>>> Sequoias 
>>>>>> to be sportingly light. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it was the stock parts that came with it. Fairly light wheels, 
>>>>>> Turbo tires. I would make the same statement about Heron #1, the 
>>>>>> prototype, 
>>>>>> which is a Road frame built with Touring stays at the rear. Both frames 
>>>>>> are 
>>>>>> a joy to ride. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interestingly, I read somewhere that the Sequoia was designed with a 
>>>>>> bit heavier down tube and chain stays. Recently I posted on a frame 
>>>>>> building forum a query about the ratio of stiffness among the frame 
>>>>>> tubes. 
>>>>>> If you look at older Reynolds tube set specs, they have .1mm thicker 
>>>>>> down 
>>>>>> tubes than top and seat. Or, if you like, their top and seat tube walls 
>>>>>> are 
>>>>>> .1mm thinner than the down tube. All other tube manufacturers, and even 
>>>>>> Reynolds now today, specify tube sets with equal wall thickness around 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> main triangle. It's also important to note that the down tube and seat 
>>>>>> tube 
>>>>>> were always 1/8" larger diameter than the top tube. Lately it seems 
>>>>>>

Re: [RBW] DIY Nitto rack hoop

[JohnS]

Thanks for sharing Jay! I'll have to remember that combination of daruma 
and p-clamps, very creative solution. Looks great to me.

JohnS

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 2:21:51 PM UTC-4 Dustin wrote:

> Jay, 
>
> Nice tombstone!  Not “kludgy” at all. Thanks for sharing 
>
> Dustin 
>
> On Jul 20, 2023, at 11:05 PM, Jay Lonner  wrote:
>
> For those interested, here’s what I came up with. Bending an aluminum 
> rack stay with an improvised mandrel was easy. Two p-clamps and two daruma 
> fixtures rounded out the hardware, and the installation doesn’t even look 
> all that kludgy. Fits the leather pocket on my SaddleSack like a glove. 
> Pics attached, with bonus glimpses of my wife’s Cheviot in the background.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Jul 12, 2023, at 11:02 AM, Jay Lonner  wrote:
>
> One of the downsides of the Big Back Rack is that it doesn’t come with 
> the tombstone/backstop feature that hooks so nicely into the leather patch 
> designed for that purpose on my large SaddlesSack. I’m thinking of making 
> one myself using daruma fixtures and a rack stay bent to fit. Does anybody 
> have experience with this sort of fabrication? Can you get a nice radius 
> bend with a bench vise and a soup can, or do you need a tubing bender? 
> Alternatively — and this is a long shot — if anybody has an old or damaged 
> rack with this feature, I’d be interested in buying it and trying my hand 
> at a tombstone transplant.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
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[RBW] Re: Early 80's Specialized Sequoia

[JohnS]

The early 80's Sequoia was the sport/touring model, in the middle between 
the road race Allez and the full on touring Expedition. Not sure what color 
options were available. I use to own an 83 Expedition in gray/anthracite. 
My 82 Sequoia is dark blue. It's not a feather weight, nor is it a tank, 
weigh in at just over 23 pounds with pedals and two water bottle cages. 
Fully lugged Tange chrome-moly tubing, with long thinned lugs, it has nice 
neutral handling, mounts for fenders and a rear rack and room for 32mm 
tires (maybe 35).

JohnS

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 1:12:35 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> I also suspect they varied tubing sets basis frame size ; something that 
> Bridgestones also did , if you read their ad copy
>
> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 12:04:43 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> I remember *Bicycle Guide* praising those Sequoias for their fine ride 
>> and careful craftsmanship, but they pointed out that the bikes weren't 
>> particularly light. Sport-touring? I also remember Specialized having a 
>> full-bore touring bike with all required the braze-ons for fenders/racks 3- 
>> water bottle braze-ons called the Expedition, appropriately and I seem to 
>> recall in *Bicycling *ads that these were dark blue. Maybe that's what 
>> your friend toured on?
>>
>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:44:15 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Were there different versions of the Sequoia?  The one I was familiar 
>>> with was a dark metalic grey one, but I think it came in dark blue, too.  
>>> It wA a fantastic bike, built by Toyo if I remember correctly. But I 
>>> thought it was a full-on touring bike, with heavy tubing, low bottom 
>>> bracket  shallow seat tub angle - compared to sportier bikes of the era.  
>>> My friend used his for numerous, long, heavily-loaded tours, including a 
>>> months-long, dirt-road (mud) trek from Montana to Alaska and back.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:31:13 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:57:41 AM UTC-4 Peter Bridge wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did your noticeably heavy Sequoia perhaps have heavy wheels or 
>>>> thornproof tubes or a spring Brooks saddle or some such?  I find Sequoias 
>>>> to be sportingly light. 
>>>>
>>>> No, it was the stock parts that came with it. Fairly light wheels, 
>>>> Turbo tires. I would make the same statement about Heron #1, the 
>>>> prototype, 
>>>> which is a Road frame built with Touring stays at the rear. Both frames 
>>>> are 
>>>> a joy to ride. 
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, I read somewhere that the Sequoia was designed with a 
>>>> bit heavier down tube and chain stays. Recently I posted on a frame 
>>>> building forum a query about the ratio of stiffness among the frame tubes. 
>>>> If you look at older Reynolds tube set specs, they have .1mm thicker down 
>>>> tubes than top and seat. Or, if you like, their top and seat tube walls 
>>>> are 
>>>> .1mm thinner than the down tube. All other tube manufacturers, and even 
>>>> Reynolds now today, specify tube sets with equal wall thickness around the 
>>>> main triangle. It's also important to note that the down tube and seat 
>>>> tube 
>>>> were always 1/8" larger diameter than the top tube. Lately it seems steel 
>>>> builders have been experimenting away from that, but I haven't seen any 
>>>> discussion of why they would do that. For my Rivendell Road, for example, 
>>>> Grant spec'd the exact same tube for both top and down tubes. So, that 
>>>> goes 
>>>> the other direction, making the top tube exactly the same stiffness as the 
>>>> down tube. BUT, because the top tube is shorter than the down tube, there 
>>>> is less butted section remaining in the top tube. Anyway, my hypothesis is 
>>>> that the relative stiffness among the tubes has an effect on how the frame 
>>>> feels, and the a stiffer down tube and chain stays is what produced the 
>>>> "magic" feel of a Reynolds frame. Perhaps backing up this hypothesis is 
>>>> the 
>>>> "Spine" line of frames that Trek built, with steel or titanium down tubes 
>>>> and chain stays, and carbon tubes elsewhere. Their marketing touted the 
>>>> effect that had on the feel of the frame. A friend has the titanium one 
>>>> and 
>>>> he loves it.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the meandering detour. I just found the Specialized Sequoia 
>>>> frame to feel heavy when lifting, compared to some other steel frames. But 
>>>> I loved the way it rode.
>>>>
>>>> Ted Durant
>>>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[JohnS]

Wow Eric, that was a bad one, glad your ok and the Sam is on the mend. 
Don't forget to check the spokes for nicks, could break easy if they are.

JohnS


On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 7:54:06 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:

> Wow. That's wild. Glad you're ok. Bummer about the Sam, that's a beautiful 
> bike.
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:08:55 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks Brian and Danny! 
>>
>> I got the mech freed. The parallelogram housing is twisted, too. The 
>> limit screws aren't in plane, they're twisted! It's a huge mess. Still have 
>> many good screws, bolts and springs worth saving. Jockey wheels, too. I'll 
>> leave it as-is and pull parts from it as needed. 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:19:03 PM UTC-4 Danny wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry about the hanger damage, but good to hear that you're ok. Even in 
>>> its pretzelized state, it's a good looking derailer sculpture!
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 6:42 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m just over here hungry for pretzels.
>>>>
>>>> Seriously though, glad you’re ok, and I’m sorry about your Sam’s 
>>>> hanger. I’m sure it’ll be up and running strong again soon.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Jim. Just a bit of my own patented brand of sarcasm ;) 
>>>>
>>>> The damage is waaay out of proportion to the fall. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:57:30 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow... the most important thing is that you're fine, Eric. The bike 
>>>>> stuff is "just" bike stuff, repairable or replaceable.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw your subject line and glanced at the pic before reading your 
>>>>> story, and at first I thought, "dang, did he get that thing to actually 
>>>>> work?!?"
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:30:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dustin: To answer your question, hell no! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yikes, that looks like a mess! 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jared
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m 
>>>>>>>> sorry to hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel 
>>>>>>>> you’ve 
>>>>>>>> made, though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that 
>>>>>>>> went 
>>>>>>>> through a far more severe crash.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually 
>>>>>>>> sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed 
>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>> minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be 
>>>>>>>> needed 
>>>>>>>> here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers 
>>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>>> some point along the line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the 
>>>>>>>>> pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to 
>>>>>>>>> be 
>>>>>>>>> worth it?  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dustin in VA
>>>>>>>&g

[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

[JohnS]

Hello Peter,

Wow, an '81 Sequoia! Those are very rare since only about 700 were made by 
hand. In '82 is when production ramped up. Please post a picture if you can.

Thanks,
John


On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:58:26 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very nice build, Bones!  B) 
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> I started with an Appaloosa, which I built as a workhorse to ferry my 
>> kids around. I wanted something without all the racks and utility so I 
>> purchased a Hillborne. Great bike, but I found it too similar to my 
>> Appaloosa so I moved it along and bought a Roadini. It was exactly what I 
>> was looking for. No, it is not a delicate, lightweight bike. That is to my 
>> benefit, as I can do stupid things to it without worrying about it being 
>> damaged. It is a Rivendell, and it rides like all of my other Rivendells. 
>> It currently resides at my parents' house, and I make a point to ride it 
>> whenever I visit. I love that bike.
>>
>> [image: roadini2.jpg]
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:49:48 AM UTC-4 chasenl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_4997.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I am about 200 miles into my orange-ass roadini and I love it. Set up 
>>> with a23s, dirt drops, cavas and an analog 30mm stem. It is not flexy and 
>>> light like my rb 2. It is no sports car. Its like a benz, smooth and comfy. 
>>> I have a 90 stumpjumper (that I’m convinced could be the worlds greatest 
>>> bicycle), and the roadini is v similar, minus canti post, add practical 
>>> geometry. It is definitely stout, which makes the lack of rack mounts 
>>> annoying, but its not t stout. To me, it feels like a road tourer, not 
>>> a zippy speed machine. I think a crust mallochio or lightning bolt might be 
>>> lighter/flexier/zippier. 
>>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:03:16 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 This paragraph is from Will's recent email... If this sounds like what 
 you're looking for then I say buy one. 

 "Yes, the Roadini is heavier than a carbon frame, but, and even though 
 it's a cliche phrase at this point, *it rides light* and I don't care 
 if I'm two minutes slower than my alternate-universe self who rides a 
 carbon bike. I still feel fast on it, and I'm not racing anybody anyway, 
 even myself. My bike priorities are safety, comfort, reliability, and the 
 ability to stretch the bike beyond it's stated purpose. Most of you aren't 
 able to come test ride one before you buy, but those that do invariably 
 say 
 something like, "it's faster than I thought it would be!". It's always 
 been 
 more about the rider than the frame, but I know what they mean."

 Doug


 On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 9:14:40 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have really fallen for these luscious new Roadini builds I've seen 
> at Riv and Blue Lug.
>
> I have a Sam Hillborne and love it. It's been through several 
> iterations of cockpit/racks/bags/brakes/wheels/tires and all have been 
> really fun. Right now it has flat bars with sweep, chunky 47mm tires, and 
> is an excellent all around adventure/trail/camping ride. It's currently 
> my 
> only bike!
>
> Before the Sam, I rode 90s road bikes exclusively for 20 years, and 
> those worked great for city/commuting/neighborhood/pub rides. I've heard 
> that the Roadini does NOT offer that kind of 
> ride/speed/feel/handling/gusto/whatever, from several folks in this group.
>
> So am I fooling myself into thinking another $2500 Riv build is going 
> to scratch the itch? Or should I buy a <$500 Japanese Road Bike that can 
> hold 33s and actually feel some performance?
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Re: [RBW] ISO Roadini...or?

[JohnS]

I completed my '82 Specialized Sequoia build and couldn't be happier with 
it. Great feel, it has that, when I say jump, it says, how high feeling to 
it. It replaces my Surly Pacer which had a great fit but in comparison, was 
flat/dull. I'll post a few pics and a write up over the weekend. Highly 
recommend finding an early one if you can. Fits RH 700x32 tires cleanly, 
not sure if they would work with fenders, I'll check.

JohnS


On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 8:24:18 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The RB's in the 90's were advertised as around 22 lb total for a mid-sized 
> frame and that was built with a lot of non-light parts. I would guess the 
> frame is lighter weight and flexier than a roadini.
>
> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 7:46:23 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> If the Roadini with its double oversized tubing is lighter than an RB1… I 
>> would be very surprised. I’ve owned both, but probably 20 years apart. But 
>> tall head tubes, long chainstays, and heavy tubing all add up quickly. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023, exliontamer  wrote:
>>
>>> An RB-1 is a relatively heavy bike especially in 59cm & up & I wouldn't 
>>> be surprised if the Roadini is the same or possibly lighter. That said, I 
>>> don't think that's a bad thing depending on the frame size, your personal 
>>> pedaling style/power, weight, etc. When I was focused on only riding fast I 
>>> had a 59cm frame with EL/OS tubing that was very thin walled, flexy, & 
>>> light. I'm 6'1" & weighed 160lbs at the time & that bike was too whippy for 
>>> me personally. It took getting a '93 RB-1 (62cm wouldn't fit a 32 btw)  to 
>>> make me realize that I preferred a stiffer frame...also my average speed 
>>> increased even though the bike didn't "plane" & was 2 lbs heavier. 
>>>
>>> I'm glad Jan & that crew are doing their thing but the message can get 
>>> tedious. I'm sure it works for some people but a lot of it seems to be 
>>> presented in a one size fits all way. All that said there are a lot of 90s 
>>> steel frames that will fit a 28. Plenty of affordable lugged Bianchis that 
>>> will be lighter and less expensive than the RB-1. I also second the used 
>>> aluminum recommendation. Even the new Cannondale Optimo has clearance for 
>>> 32s and, as long as a carbon fork doesn't freak you out, starts at 1k for a 
>>> complete bike that's solidly spec'd and has rim brakes. 
>>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 11:27:12 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's sacrilege to say but if you want a zippy road bike as a compliment 
>>>> to what you already have - a steel Rivendell road bike - for $1000 or less 
>>>> you can scoop up an aluminum Trek/Cannondale/Specialized/Giant off 
>>>> Craigslist and probably have a lot of fun. And you can test ride it! 
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:14:40 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have really fallen for these luscious new Roadini builds I've seen 
>>>>> at Riv and Blue Lug.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Sam Hillborne and love it. It's been through several 
>>>>> iterations of cockpit/racks/bags/brakes/wheels/tires and all have been 
>>>>> really fun. Right now it has flat bars with sweep, chunky 47mm tires, and 
>>>>> is an excellent all around adventure/trail/camping ride. It's currently 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> only bike!
>>>>>
>>>>> Before the Sam, I rode 90s road bikes exclusively for 20 years, and 
>>>>> those worked great for city/commuting/neighborhood/pub rides. I've heard 
>>>>> that the Roadini does NOT offer that kind of 
>>>>> ride/speed/feel/handling/gusto/whatever, from several folks in this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> So am I fooling myself into thinking another $2500 Riv build is going 
>>>>> to scratch the itch? Or should I buy a <$500 Japanese Road Bike that can 
>>>>> hold 33s and actually feel some performance?
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Plush old 531 steel frames (was being precious)

[JohnS]

Thank you Eric,

JohnS

On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:14:27 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> The mount I added to the Singer is this one:
>
> [image: 
> 3198yXsC3ML._SR600,315_PIWhiteStrip,BottomLeft,0,35_PIStarRatingTHREEANDHALF,BottomLeft,360,-6_SR600,315_ZA321,445,290,400,400,AmazonEmberBold,12,4,0,0,5_SCLZZZ_FMpng_BG255,255,255.jpg]
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> Elite 0123301 VIP Cage Clamps Water Bottle Cage, 25mm-70mm, Black 
> <https://www.amazon.com/Elite-0123301-Clamps-Bottle-25mm-70mm/dp/B00OS6HKIM/ref=asc_df_B00OS6HKIM/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=241987970787==g=8490519446908074857c===1014208=pla-355337713622=1>
> amazon.com 
> <https://www.amazon.com/Elite-0123301-Clamps-Bottle-25mm-70mm/dp/B00OS6HKIM/ref=asc_df_B00OS6HKIM/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=241987970787==g=8490519446908074857c===1014208=pla-355337713622=1>
>
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>
> It’s been solid and dependable. The device adds mounting points—you 
> provide the bottle cage.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Jun 24, 2023, at 9:16 AM, JohnS  wrote:
>
> Hello Eric N,
>
> Thanks for the close up of your bike. Because of it I noticed the clamped 
> on water bottle cage on the seat tube. Do you like? Which brand is it? I 
> would like to add a water bottle cage to my '82 Sequoia's down tube (Tange 
> Special Series Touring, Cro-Mo Double Butted), great riding bike, so much 
> more lively than my Surly Pacer.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:57:10 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> For the tubing nerds out there: the 531 Professional decal (in French) on 
>> my 1983 Alex Singer. 
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>> –Eric N
>>
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2023, at 6:53 PM, brendonoid  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> My late 80s Holdsworth Mistral is 531c (I assume that's the competition 
>> tubing?) And is the only frame I've ridden that has that "planing" feeling 
>> that Jan gets so hot under the collar for.
>> I have converted it to 650b and it is my go to roadish bike when I'm not 
>> on a Riv. Definitely a special frame.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Plush old 531 steel frames (was being precious)

[JohnS]

Hello Eric N,

Thanks for the close up of your bike. Because of it I noticed the clamped 
on water bottle cage on the seat tube. Do you like? Which brand is it? I 
would like to add a water bottle cage to my '82 Sequoia's down tube (Tange 
Special Series Touring, Cro-Mo Double Butted), great riding bike, so much 
more lively than my Surly Pacer.

JohnS

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:57:10 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> For the tubing nerds out there: the 531 Professional decal (in French) on 
> my 1983 Alex Singer. 
>
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>
> –Eric N
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2023, at 6:53 PM, brendonoid  wrote:
>
> 
>
> My late 80s Holdsworth Mistral is 531c (I assume that's the competition 
> tubing?) And is the only frame I've ridden that has that "planing" feeling 
> that Jan gets so hot under the collar for.
> I have converted it to 650b and it is my go to roadish bike when I'm not 
> on a Riv. Definitely a special frame.
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[RBW] Re: Matt's Green Rosco Platypus (photos)

[JohnS]

Very nice build Matthew,

I suppose that's why it was in the garage sale and the need for the 
creative cable hanger. Looks like a BMX cross bar clamp around the seat 
post (something I would do).

JohnS

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 6:43:01 AM UTC-4 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> Really nice, thoughtful build Matthew, and I like the color on this bike. 
> Classic Riv! Funky-cool rear brake cable hanger you got there! Curious 
> about the area on the seat tube above the front derailer. Industrial 
> accident? 
>
> Marty
>
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 3:06:47 AM UTC-4 Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> Finished getting this Rosco Platypus together last month and took a few 
>> photos on my ride today :) Picked up the frame, bars, and crank at the 
>> Rivendell garage sale.
>>
>> Matthew Miller
>> Long Beach, CA/USA
>>
>> [image: R0009714-Edit.jpeg]
>> [image: R0009790 Large.jpeg][image: R0009796 Large.jpeg][image: R0009772 
>> Large.jpeg]
>>
>> 15 years on this Brooks so far.
>> [image: R0009732 Large.jpeg]
>>
>> Used an old Dura-Ace front derailleur w/braze-on clamp.
>> [image: R0009729 Large.jpeg]
>>
>> Fancy brass valve caps.
>> [image: R0009802 Large.jpeg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] ISO Better Bar-End Friction Shifting!

[JohnS]

This thread is getting kind of long, so excuse me if this has already been 
mentioned, but has the derailleur cable and it's housing been replaced 
recently? Over time some dirt can build up and cause friction, which can 
cause poor shifting, especially for bar end shifters. Also, one time I had 
a cable strand come un-wound when I slid the cable into the short section 
of cable housing between the frame and the derailleur. That caused a lot of 
poor shifting until I replaced the cable. It wasn't obvious since the 
unwound cable strand was inside of the housing.

JohnS

On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 5:53:26 AM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> If I understand correctly that the problems began iafter february, when 
> you had the cassette and chain replaced, I wonder if something was done 
> wrong or poorly, or even just different. For instance:  
>
> - Does the chain width (referred to by the number of rear sprockets it is 
> intended to work with) match the rest of drivetrain?  Including the 
> derailleurs (width of shift cage), chainrings (width of rings and spacing 
> between them) and cassette (number of cogs plus same width/spacing concerns 
> as with rings).  One of the benefits of friction shifting is that you can 
> usually get away with mixing and matching a bit.  For instance, a 9 speed 
> chain on rings spaced for an 8 speed era drivetrain, or a 10 speed 
> cassette.  Or a narrower 10 speed chain working on an otherwise all-9 speed 
> system.  Etc., etc.  But if you're not super comfortable with friction, 
> you're going to be better off if everything matches.  
>
> - is there a wobble in the cassette when the wheel is spinning?  Maybe it 
> got installed with some dirt behind it, or with the lockring not fully 
> secured?
>
> Otherwise, I agree with many of the above suggestions as place to start 
> and things to rule out, and that it doesn't strike me as a "shifter" issue 
> at all:  Hanger alignment; possibility that you're simply worn out the 
> chainrings or rear derailleur.  (The former woul appear as "shart-fin" 
> tooth profiles, and the latter would be evidenced by any play in the 
> mechanism if you try to wiggle it.)
>
> Lastly,  make sure your drive-side crank arm isn't working loose from the 
> bottom bracket spindle.
>
> On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 10:16:31 AM UTC-6 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Caroline,
>> If you recently had the chain and cassette replace, then your problems 
>> with the chain dropping may be because the chainring is worn. Most 
>> chainrings are aluminum, which wears faster than steel cogs. And since the 
>> same chainring is used for all riding while the cogs are changed by 
>> shifting, the wear is more concentrated on the chainring. Both of these 
>> lead to chainrings wiring out faster than cogs, and a worn chainring will 
>> not hold the chain securely. This can act in combination with problems 
>> others hav suggested here - especially bent detailer hanger and too-slack 
>> chain - to drop the chain off the chainring.
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 10:53:07 AM UTC-7 Caroline Golum wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone! I had the chain + cassette replaced in February, both 
>>> new parts, so I'm assuming they both have plenty of life left. 
>>>
>>> The last mechanic I spoke with assured me the limits on my derailleur 
>>> were good. FWIW I've had the same Shimano 105 rear derailleur since I built 
>>> the bike in 2009. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 1:42:45 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did the derailleur service include verification that the derailleur 
>>>> hanger is straight?
>>>>
>>>> Agree that it is unlikely to be a shifter issue.
>>>>
>>>> Laing
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 1:34:54 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That sounds like an issue with chain retention and not the shifter. 
>>>>> Clutch RD ? New rings ? New chain ?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 10:32 AM Caroline Golum  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently running 1x10 and friction bar-end shifting. The chain keeps 
>>>>>> coming off my crank, not hitting the right gear in the rear, etc. I've 
>>>>>> had 
>>>>>> the derailleur serviced, it's fine, etc. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time to get a new shifter? Switch to indexed shifting? Switch to an 
>>>>>> 8/9spd in the rear? The bar-end shifter is RBW's Shifter - Silver2 
>>>>>> <https://www.rivbik

[RBW] Re: Sarah’s Primrose Platypus

[JohnS]

Great story and great bike! Thank you for sharing Leah and Sarah!

JohnS

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 11:36:38 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Thanks for sharing the story and photos of Sarah's bike with us, Leah!
>
> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 10:30:18 AM UTC-4 Melanie wrote:
>
>> That bike's a beauty. So cheerful!
>> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 10:57:31 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you saw Riv’s IG today, you will have seen a RivSister named Sarah 
>>> holding her custom yellow Platy aloft, PlatyPosing, as we RivSisters like 
>>> to say.
>>>
>>> Sarah isn’t wild about learning to post to this platform, and since we 
>>> talk on the DMs all day (stolen moments, as we’re both nurses and mothers) 
>>> about our Platys, she figured I’d know enough to post about her new bike on 
>>> her behalf. 
>>>
>>> And because I only know how to embed photos in the text after the 
>>> initial post, I’m going to continue this in the next one. Be right back…
>>>
>>> Leah 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

[JohnS]

John G - Ouch! That's a very serious crank failure. Had you basked the 
crank at one time?

FWIW, I like the FSA Vero crank on my QB, low q-factor and used with a 103 
spindle BB it give a fairly straight chain line.

JohnS

On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 7:34:55 AM UTC-4 John G wrote:

> I have nothing to add to the discalced commentary, but I've been riding 
> the Quickbeam a lot this spring while building up a different bike. 
>
> [image: 52937460714_28bc36c4b4_c.jpg]
>
> Alas, an ominous creaking started on the most recent ride.  Fortunately it 
> was the crank and not the frame as on my previous Quickbeam.
> Pondering replacement cranks now.  Suginos seem pricy. 
> [image: 52943415950_8ef8fc2db9_c.jpg]
>
> Cheers,
>   John G
> Union Bridge, MD
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 8:01:23 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for starting the new thread, Ted. 
>>
>> I rode discalced today here in Virginia. Upper 80s and warm. Though it 
>> has been a delicious spring with breezes, cool temps and low humidity that 
>> some years seem all too fleeting. 
>>
>> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 4:14:00 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> I’m sure that’s the case! The Discalced Followers of Rivendell!
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>
>>> On Jun 1, 2023, at 12:05 PM, John Dewey  wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric, I wouldn’t be surprised to find that some of us ride discalsed. 
>>>
>>> Best / Jock
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 8:10 AM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now I know what “discalced” means!
>>>>
>>>> --Eric Norris
>>>> campyo...@me.com
>>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 1, 2023, at 7:18 AM, John Dewey  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ted, years ago we lived out in the country near Beloit—a ride up to 
>>>> Holy Hill was always on my early spring schedule. Here's my Waterford 
>>>> 1900. 
>>>> I miss WI in the summertime for sure...winter not so much :  )
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> BEST / Jock Dewey  / NorCA
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know, astronomically it's still spring, but as I said before, 
>>>>> Memorial Day is the traditional start of summer here. And the corn is in 
>>>>> and growing, so it must be summer! My first visit to Holy Hill is always 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> test of early-season fitness. Pretty good, not great, was blasted by the 
>>>>> hills. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Off topic, but maybe worth another thread because I think there has 
>>>>> been noteworthy progress:  I LOVE the VP "Clem Smith" pedals Riv sells. 
>>>>> So 
>>>>> much so that I bought a pile of them. I traded email with Spencer, first, 
>>>>> to make sure I wasn't hogging Riv's supply. Crazy inexpensive, super high 
>>>>> quality bearings, lots of traction without being leg-shredders. Between 
>>>>> those and several pairs of Lems Shoes I am finally happy to be converting 
>>>>> most of my bikes to flat pedals. My forefeet have widened considerably 
>>>>> since retiring, the effect of no longer wearing dress shoes. I went 
>>>>> through 
>>>>> three pairs of biking shoes in two years. Lake shoes in wide are pretty 
>>>>> good, but Lems are a game-changer for me. It was getting hot today, so I 
>>>>> wore their Primal Zens, which have lots of ventilation. 
>>>>> [image: IMG_1299.jpeg]
>>>>> [image: IMG_1300.jpeg]
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sim Works Taco Pedals: Looks appealing

[JohnS]

Pre-order for the taco pedals is now open...

https://www.sim.works/collections/simworks-by-mks/products/taco-pedal?variant=43988378386686

I almost pulled the trigger yesterday when I was ordering some Nissen 
cables for my Sequoia build, but I'm going to wait until I sell some parts 
first. Too much going out and not enough coming in, cash wise.

JohnS

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:59:41 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Hello Eric,
>
> I saw them the other day and thought they would be good pedal for me. I 
> like the minimal platform, some engagement but not too much. Looking 
> forward to ordering a pair when they're available in late May.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 6:49:23 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I agree Eric, this pedal appeals to me with the large platform and pinned 
>> construction. Also saw the Gordito frame and thought, YES this is a good 
>> use of that tooling!  I bought Allways for the Charlie (well, for the 
>> Wombat, but) and even though their platform is fairly roomy, they feel too 
>> small vs. the Monarchs which have become the gold standard for me. I would 
>> give these a go! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 12:51:51 UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> I use 5-10 Freeriders on my MTBs with pedals that have screw type pins 
>>> similar to those on the Vault pedals, and also have a few different types 
>>> of pinned pedals on other types of bikes.
>>>
>>> In my experience pins like those on the Taco pedals will work fine with 
>>> five-tens, but will not be quite as locked in as the smaller diameter screw 
>>> type pins on pedals like the Vault, which really dig into the 5/10s and 
>>> require lifting your foot to reposition.
>>>
>>> The Taco pedal pins split the difference between the above mentioned 
>>> more aggressive pins and the even less aggressive star/torx shaped pins 
>>> that are available on many (inexpensive) pedals marketed for more casual 
>>> use.
>>>
>>> I have pedals with the less aggressive star/torx pins on my Platypus and 
>>> they work great with casual shoes (trail runners, vans type treads, etc.) 
>>> without tearing them up (or me if I brush against them). I tried using my 
>>> five-tens on these pedals and they weren't slippery but offered no 
>>> advantage to casual shoes, so I keep the 5-10s for dedicated MTB use.
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 3:05:45 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> My favorite pedal ever is the Simworks Bubbly. I have them on my Clem & 
>>>> they are really good for pavement & even light dirt/gravel. But, they just 
>>>> are not “sticky” enough (for me) on my Gus on singletrack  - I need pins. 
>>>> I 
>>>> built the Gus with leftover DMR Vault pedals. They are big enough and my 
>>>> 5/10 shoes do not move. But the Taco just plain looks so good & is 
>>>> slightly 
>>>> bigger than the vault. If I could be certain they will be as sticky as the 
>>>> Vault’s I would be trying to score a set.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Johnny Alien  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There are so may great platform pedals out there right now that I am 
>>>> not sure there is reason for another one but its nice looking. I prefer 
>>>> the 
>>>> composite ones because of weight and the bundle of colors they come in. I 
>>>> think the bear trap is the best looking one right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:31:22 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More info here: https://sim-works.com/en/news/simworks-new-stuff-2023
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:30:41 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sim Works have a new pedal coming out. It's called the Taco. Looks 
>>>>>> like a Sylvan Gordito pedal with more grip. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems like the kind of pedal many of us here would enjoy. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: taco2.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: taco.png]
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sim Works Taco Pedals: Looks appealing

[JohnS]

Hello Eric,

I saw them the other day and thought they would be good pedal for me. I 
like the minimal platform, some engagement but not too much. Looking 
forward to ordering a pair when they're available in late May.

JohnS

On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 6:49:23 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I agree Eric, this pedal appeals to me with the large platform and pinned 
> construction. Also saw the Gordito frame and thought, YES this is a good 
> use of that tooling!  I bought Allways for the Charlie (well, for the 
> Wombat, but) and even though their platform is fairly roomy, they feel too 
> small vs. the Monarchs which have become the gold standard for me. I would 
> give these a go! 
>
>
>
> On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 12:51:51 UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
>
>> I use 5-10 Freeriders on my MTBs with pedals that have screw type pins 
>> similar to those on the Vault pedals, and also have a few different types 
>> of pinned pedals on other types of bikes.
>>
>> In my experience pins like those on the Taco pedals will work fine with 
>> five-tens, but will not be quite as locked in as the smaller diameter screw 
>> type pins on pedals like the Vault, which really dig into the 5/10s and 
>> require lifting your foot to reposition.
>>
>> The Taco pedal pins split the difference between the above mentioned more 
>> aggressive pins and the even less aggressive star/torx shaped pins that are 
>> available on many (inexpensive) pedals marketed for more casual use.
>>
>> I have pedals with the less aggressive star/torx pins on my Platypus and 
>> they work great with casual shoes (trail runners, vans type treads, etc.) 
>> without tearing them up (or me if I brush against them). I tried using my 
>> five-tens on these pedals and they weren't slippery but offered no 
>> advantage to casual shoes, so I keep the 5-10s for dedicated MTB use.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 3:05:45 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> My favorite pedal ever is the Simworks Bubbly. I have them on my Clem & 
>>> they are really good for pavement & even light dirt/gravel. But, they just 
>>> are not “sticky” enough (for me) on my Gus on singletrack  - I need pins. I 
>>> built the Gus with leftover DMR Vault pedals. They are big enough and my 
>>> 5/10 shoes do not move. But the Taco just plain looks so good & is slightly 
>>> bigger than the vault. If I could be certain they will be as sticky as the 
>>> Vault’s I would be trying to score a set.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
>>> There are so may great platform pedals out there right now that I am 
>>> not sure there is reason for another one but its nice looking. I prefer the 
>>> composite ones because of weight and the bundle of colors they come in. I 
>>> think the bear trap is the best looking one right now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:31:22 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> More info here: https://sim-works.com/en/news/simworks-new-stuff-2023
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:30:41 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sim Works have a new pedal coming out. It's called the Taco. Looks 
>>>>> like a Sylvan Gordito pedal with more grip. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like the kind of pedal many of us here would enjoy. 
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: taco2.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: taco.png]
>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[JohnS]

I'm with Ian, but instead of plywood, I use 1/8" fiberboard for bike bag 
stiffeners. Cut to size and coat with polyurethane to water proof it. Holds 
up great, downside is it's heavier than the plastic.

JohnS


On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:28:43 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> You could try gluing two pieces of chloroplast together with the "grain" 
> of the two pieces running at right angles, or three pieces at 60 deg - 
> "plyplast"? 
> This assumes that you are using free recycled signs.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 4:14:27 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but having been inspired by the 
>> "lots of stuff" comment I decided to empty my saddle bag of its contents 
>> and weigh it.  2.55 lbs.  So I emptied it and went for an 8 mile round trip 
>> ride on the Ram to get some merchandize. The bike handled much better - 
>> more lively and a bit easer steering response.  Then I loaded it back up 
>> and weighed the merchandize when I got back home. 3.64 lbs.  On the return 
>> trip loaded up a noticed the difference right away.  I figure the extra 
>> ~lb. or so would be about what the bag contents weighs when I go for an 
>> extended ride with a cell phone, key ring, ID+some cash in a thin taxi 
>> wallet, and maybe a Clif Bar... so roughly the same weight.  Just sayin'.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Well I don't START with lots of stuff but I endeavor to be like Pam 
>>> (Likes To Bike) and Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) who do everything on 
>>> their bikes, so I go shopping and load it up! It sits on a Nitto rack and 
>>> the stuff on the sides of the bag bend the coroplast down, maybe I should 
>>> just pull the stiffener and let the rack do the work. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:
>>>
>>>> JB sez "... I carry a lot of stuff!.."  So do I and I'm beginning to 
>>>> wonder why.  I carry 3-4 different sizes of tubes in case I run into 
>>>> someone who flats without a spare along with an entire collection of small 
>>>> tubes, patches, etc.  Every time I lift it down from the ceiling hooks I 
>>>> consider ditching most of it.  I think I will...
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:12:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh I didn't bend it, it just collapsed under the weight of stuff in 
>>>>> there. I carry a lot of stuff! 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
>>>>>> However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go 
>>>>>> “all 
>>>>>> bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to 
>>>>>> side) 
>>>>>> corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
>>>>>> score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
>>>>>> dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You 
>>>>>> don’t 
>>>>>> want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you 
>>>>>> want. 
>>>>>> If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
>>>>>> bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag 
>>>>>> structure 
>>>>>> forever and ever…
>>>>>> Happy bagging!
>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are 
>>>>>>> you folks putting in there to replace it? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[JohnS]

The color matched, with strips Silca Impero Ultimate frame pump looks great 
too!

JohnS


On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 10:53:43 AM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> It has one of those new OEM Brooks B-68s. Jealous 
>
> On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 5:36:24 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> The external dyno wiring on such an expensive build looks... wrong.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 1:10 PM Ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> Worth a look. The 2 Marks and Joe Bell have worked their usual magic.
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/joshs-rivendell-custom?mc_cid=d5e44cc458_eid=0074b52ae1
>>>  
>>>
>>> I wonder if the custom program will ever return. I know Riv says it's a 
>>> huge time and money sink, but I love seeing what people order for their 
>>> customs and ogling the fine craftsmanship on display. Josh, whoever he is, 
>>> must be thrilled after what was apparently a lengthy wait. But the result 
>>> was worth it, judging by the pictures. 
>>>
>>> Just sayin'
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[JohnS]

Ted, nice picture of your bike and the lighthouse. Which one is that? I'll 
be on the upper Cape in the beginning of July. Always enjoy the riding 
there.

JohnS

On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 11:30:14 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> I realize now that I left the word "winter" in the subject line when I 
> created this thread. Maybe a Freudian slip given our early Spring weather! 
>
> Anyway, I'm on Cape Cod for a week, riding my trusty and rusty old Fuji 
> America. It's just starting to look and feel like spring here.
> [image: IMG_1173.jpeg]
>
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Re: [RBW] ISO: Padded Cycling Gloves Sans Velcro

[JohnS]

Sorry, missed that you were looking for padded gloves.

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 2:22:26 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> I like the Giro Zero CS glove, no velcro, no padding. I were them mostly 
> for the grip they provide. Good deal on them now at BTD if you like black 
> and size XL.
>
> https://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/giro-zero-cs-glove_1?sg=1
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 10:17:10 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I usually end up cutting the Velcro tabs off my gloves… works better with 
>> some brands than others due to the way they’re constructed. I’ve even sewn 
>> pieces of banding over the cut parts before, but that’s extra work that’s 
>> often unnecessary.
>>
>> I have a padded pair of AeroTech knit gloves that look really nice and 
>> classic, but they do have Velcro.
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Conway Bennett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone recommend padded cycling gloves without Velcro--I hate Velcro 
>> *and* bleach. The background is I'm thinking about leaving the flat 
>> sections of my drop bars uncovered for a while while I make some 
>> adjustments.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: [RBW] ISO: Padded Cycling Gloves Sans Velcro

[JohnS]

I like the Giro Zero CS glove, no velcro, no padding. I were them mostly 
for the grip they provide. Good deal on them now at BTD if you like black 
and size XL.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/giro-zero-cs-glove_1?sg=1

John

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 10:17:10 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> I usually end up cutting the Velcro tabs off my gloves… works better with 
> some brands than others due to the way they’re constructed. I’ve even sewn 
> pieces of banding over the cut parts before, but that’s extra work that’s 
> often unnecessary.
>
> I have a padded pair of AeroTech knit gloves that look really nice and 
> classic, but they do have Velcro.
>
> On Mar 30, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend padded cycling gloves without Velcro--I hate Velcro 
> *and* bleach. The background is I'm thinking about leaving the flat 
> sections of my drop bars uncovered for a while while I make some 
> adjustments.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: [RBW] Hozan Bottom Bracket Tapping Tool

[JohnS]

Thanks Eric L, everything else came off the bike easily, so go figure. 
Making progress slowly.

Thank you Rob and Nick, my homemade tools are ok for now, but I should 
really get a quality tool next time I have this problem.

John

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 4:03:16 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> Hozan make both piloted and non-piloted BB taps (part numbers C-405 and 
> C-402 respectively). The piloted taps are far superior, as they ensure that 
> the left and right BB threads are co-axial and square to each other.
>
> You can find pretty cheap piloted taps for chasing BB threads on 
> Aliexpress (eg https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803775069380.html). 
> Probably OK for home use, but I have no idea of the quality.
>
> Nick Payne
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Re: [RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[JohnS]

I should add that I made the front rack which has the VO/Roadrunner 
mini-rando bag bolted to it. Helps to cover up the big gap between the fork 
crown and the tire.

JohnS

On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 10:40:08 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I built up a M2 SJ about a year ago to be my gravel bike. It has a rigid 
> Soma Fab steel fork with the correct axel to crown distance and a XO-1 
> cockpit (mustache bar, Riv bar ends and Tektro road levers) connected to 
> XTR v-brakes (the ones with the linkage to keep the pads parallel to the 
> rim). I like it the M2XO-1. Currently it has 26x2.1 gravel kings on it but 
> I'll probably go back to the RH rat trap pass tires. It's hoot to ride with 
> all that rubber, really enjoy it for mixed surface road/gravel rides. 
> Somewhat under-bike if it gets too rocky. I had the frame and fork stripped 
> and powder coated with "intense orange". Sorry for the grainy picture, only 
> one I have on hand.
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 5:59:15 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Oh oh! And Avid Tri-Aligns! And 110 bcd Ritchey Logic 175mm! I can hardly 
>> stand it!
>>
>> Patrick "bookmark mode" Moore
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 3:56 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and is that 1994 Marin Team Issue titanium or aluminum? Google 
>>> didn't help.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 3:54 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nuke Proof! Ringle! What about Grafton? The site brings back memories. 
>>>> Thanks for posting the link.
>>>>
>>>> For those interested in converting a NORBA-type 26" rigid mtb into a 
>>>> nice all-rounder, the site has some nice possibilities.
>>>>
>>>> Specialized M2 frames: These came out in the very early 1990s, about 
>>>> the same time I got my very nice indeed steel 1990 SJ Comp and even nicer 
>>>> *tout 
>>>> Prestige* hex-butted-in-every-possible-way 1991 SJ Team. Even in 1991 
>>>> I sniffed disapprovingly of aluminum, but were the M2 frames good ones?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 10:52 AM maxcr  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - 
>>>>> thought you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including 
>>>>> NOS Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an 
>>>>> appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a 
>>>>> silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone from the area know them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Max
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Re: [RBW] Hozan Bottom Bracket Tapping Tool

[JohnS]

Good point Will. I have one of them from a project which I didn't use it 
for. It would have been plan B had the it not gone well with cleaning out 
the BB threads.

Thanks,
John


On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 6:50:48 PM UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> It seems unnecessary at this point, but I wanted to weigh in on BB 
> solutions: I've had great success with threadless "repair" bottom 
> brackets.  I have the Velo Orange one in a Raleigh Twenty that's been great 
> but have used others in other bikes.  Which is good because VO no longer 
> sells it.
>
> Will
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:00:05 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Jeff. I'm using Groit's Garage paint cleaning clay to pull the 
>> dirt/grim out of the paint, I'm about 1/2 way through that process, need to 
>> spend some time at the BB. Then it will be a polish to smooth out small 
>> scratches followed by one or two coats of wax. Should look like the steerer 
>> tube's paint when I'm done. Some chips but not bad for being 41 years old. 
>> Also need to do a frame saver treatment before building it up.
>>
>> George, no the cartridge BB was from another bike, bearings have a lot of 
>> play so I was only using it to figure out spindle lengths. Always fun 
>> trying to get the shortest spindle to work with a frame and crank to 
>> achieve a low Q factor. The bike came with a full Dura-Ace groupo from '92, 
>> including the BB which I'll try to reuse. Unfortunately the crank and cogs 
>> are too high of a gearing for me. I'll need to use my favorite of 46/34 
>> chainrings and 11/34 cassette so I can climb the hills in my area.
>>
>> Laing, see, being a pack rat has it benefits.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> That's wonderful news John , way to go ! 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Hozan Bottom Bracket Tapping Tool

[JohnS]

Thank you Jeff. I'm using Groit's Garage paint cleaning clay to pull the 
dirt/grim out of the paint, I'm about 1/2 way through that process, need to 
spend some time at the BB. Then it will be a polish to smooth out small 
scratches followed by one or two coats of wax. Should look like the steerer 
tube's paint when I'm done. Some chips but not bad for being 41 years old. 
Also need to do a frame saver treatment before building it up.

George, no the cartridge BB was from another bike, bearings have a lot of 
play so I was only using it to figure out spindle lengths. Always fun 
trying to get the shortest spindle to work with a frame and crank to 
achieve a low Q factor. The bike came with a full Dura-Ace groupo from '92, 
including the BB which I'll try to reuse. Unfortunately the crank and cogs 
are too high of a gearing for me. I'll need to use my favorite of 46/34 
chainrings and 11/34 cassette so I can climb the hills in my area.

Laing, see, being a pack rat has it benefits.

JohnS

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> That's wonderful news John , way to go ! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Hozan Bottom Bracket Tapping Tool

[JohnS]

Rich, thank you for the offer, but I'm in eastern PA, so a road trip to 
mid-Iowa isn't in the cards.

Garth, thank you for the u2-video, that was very informative. I've got some 
extra BB cups that I can sacrifice to become tools, so I'll give that a try 
with a lot of caution.

Eric, I'll probably go with the Hozan tools if the home made version 
doesn't work out.

John
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> No experience with the taps, but in my experience I would pick a Hozan 
> tool over a Park. Park tools just seem so-so to me. 
>
> On Thursday, March 23, 2023, JohnS  wrote:
>
>> Anyone have experience with the Hozan BB tapping tool? My '82 Specialized 
>> Sequoia drive side treads have been cross threaded and need to be tapped. 
>> Park tool is too expensive for me. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/354072136754?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110013%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIMRXI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D247483%26meid%3D265aab9e5c174a48a713dd81a11fcfd5%26pid%3D101110%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D40417089%26itm%3D354072136754%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPersonalizedV1_7%26brand%3DHOZAN&_trksid=p2047675.c101110.m2109=cksum%3A354072136754265aab9e5c174a48a713dd81a11fcfd5%7Cenc%3AAQAH8KvVpLM%252FL%252FYbyLgq7kTmGAaB383Ythl3%252BULNz4mWdQZjQUGEBVScEzldt9pDIEwjVC9sgwCeV0gMCq3ICdfjOxVov5C3psDxws5xIkFsJd%252Bofy%252FVssNxE9YaNOke2Niw2FTLCIMN3jpraIuhLLGVWQakcU7%252FnAeSW4OR0OgcLdP0nb94Y17R90GxjWo1PpW2LR2XFF5A4NVsqQlH2ZBBBTbJp2KMYAroLUIWVLPKGDkNuJgnWaX9dIe4yRn56VtU1hM99PVpuuDhd4m%252BuiA1R9j68SiVyItHNLsJfVSMlHG5JzoQ1Tddgih52SA1NrDosw%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675=5019983455
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>> Thanks,
>> JohnS
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[RBW] Hozan Bottom Bracket Tapping Tool

[JohnS]

Anyone have experience with the Hozan BB tapping tool? My '82 Specialized 
Sequoia drive side treads have been cross threaded and need to be tapped. 
Park tool is too expensive for me. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354072136754?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110013%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIMRXI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D247483%26meid%3D265aab9e5c174a48a713dd81a11fcfd5%26pid%3D101110%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D40417089%26itm%3D354072136754%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPersonalizedV1_7%26brand%3DHOZAN&_trksid=p2047675.c101110.m2109=cksum%3A354072136754265aab9e5c174a48a713dd81a11fcfd5%7Cenc%3AAQAH8KvVpLM%252FL%252FYbyLgq7kTmGAaB383Ythl3%252BULNz4mWdQZjQUGEBVScEzldt9pDIEwjVC9sgwCeV0gMCq3ICdfjOxVov5C3psDxws5xIkFsJd%252Bofy%252FVssNxE9YaNOke2Niw2FTLCIMN3jpraIuhLLGVWQakcU7%252FnAeSW4OR0OgcLdP0nb94Y17R90GxjWo1PpW2LR2XFF5A4NVsqQlH2ZBBBTbJp2KMYAroLUIWVLPKGDkNuJgnWaX9dIe4yRn56VtU1hM99PVpuuDhd4m%252BuiA1R9j68SiVyItHNLsJfVSMlHG5JzoQ1Tddgih52SA1NrDosw%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675=5019983455

Thanks,
JohnS

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Re: [RBW] Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

[JohnS]

Hello Peter, 

Have you checked on the 650b group? https://groups.google.com/g/650b

Steve, 

Super nice build. Plus 1 on using the VO/Roadrunner rando bag, I mount mine 
to the rack like you did. Just the right size for me, not too big, not too 
small.

John

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:19:16 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> I can't speak specifically to 700c to 650b conversion on a Riv, but I have 
> done the switch with a Sampson Silverton racing bike that I've been riding 
> since the late 1990s.  . 
>
> Fork clearance with 700c wheels limited the rubber to 28mm. With 650b 
> Velocity Dyad rims (21 ID, as I recall) I am running RH 38mm Loup Loups 
>  with 50mm fenders. Brakes were traded out for Tektro 559s. It works!  As a 
> reference, the bike has 43cm chain stays and estimated 73 degree ST and HT 
> angles. I've not measured fork offset (I should do that sometime!) but can 
> share that it was built by a local bike shop mechanic who was just getting 
> into frame building to give me a bit more trail than the original one. 
>
> How about the ride?  The diameter of the 650b x 38 tires are just 18mm 
> less than the 700 x 28s,  Though that reduces the trail a bit  my immediate 
> impression was that it's all about the fatter tires, and after logging a 
> few hundred miles on the bike that's still my impression. I've been running 
> the RHs around 40-42 psi, so they're really cush, which I think totally 
> outweighs any reduced trail effect. Recently I  added a front rack which 
> settled the front end down even more. The ride is smth (or, dare I say, 
> "supple"). I do ride it a bit slower than I did with the 700c wheel set but 
> do have to say it increased the fun factor for a bike that after 20 some 
> years I almost parted ways with.  
>
> [image: Sampson.jpg] 
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 5:47:26 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> FWIW,
>>
>> Mine is a Joe Starck ‘99 (maybe the earlier Waterfords are different), 
>> but it fits a true 32mm with Campy dual pivots…
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 10:58 AM 'Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anybody on the list 650'ed one of the old Rivendell Road frames, the 
>>> ones that take short brakes and that max out at 28c tires?  What was the 
>>> outcome?  
>>>
>>> ~pb
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube bosses predicament

[JohnS]

Hello Ryan,

The problem with trying to drill out a hole and using a big enough easy-out 
bit to be effective is getting the hole centered. Easy concept, but hard to 
do in reality since the drill bit wants to wander from center until it 
grabs. Solution, create a guide for the drill bit so that it is centered. 

Details:
1. Sack up 6 or 8 M5 washer and slide them onto a M5 bolt.
2. Using blue tape, tape the washer stack to the shifter boss and remove 
bolt.
3. Use a wire size #3 drill bit to drill into the bolt just slightly, about 
1/32 or 1/16 of an inch.
4. Remove washers and drill a suitable hole for an easy-out to be started, 
but not too big that the drill hits the bosses treads, still kind of tricky.

The #3 drill bit is snug fit for the M5 washer. A 13/64 bit is loose, so I 
won't recommend that. I used this process recently to center a hole on a 
1/2" steel rod so that I could tape it for a M5 bolt. It worked great in my 
situation since the rod isn't as hard as a bolt and I wasn't trying to use 
an easy-out. Also, I used a drill press (one of my favorite tools).

Good luck,
John

On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 12:44:20 PM UTC-4 ryan.tre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks all for your suggestions!  I really appreciate it.  I did work on 
> this over the weekend, but unfortunately could not get it out.  At first, I 
> tried the slotting method - using a Dremel tool to cut a small slot in 
> bolt, which I successfully did.  I also added some lube and let it sit 
> overnight.  When I went to unscrew it, it wouldn't budge though.  I think 
> it's just torqued in there really tight.  I don't have a blow torch, and 
> didn't want to make the situation worse by potentially damaging the tubes 
> or paint with this method.  It's hard to see in the picture, but there 
> really was absolutely nothing to grab onto, it was exactly flush with the 
> boss.  I did try hammering it a bit to try to rotate it, but it still 
> wouldn't move.  I might just try using some adhesive to glue on the stop on 
> that side.  I don't ever plan on putting a shift lever there, so it'll 
> probably be ok.  The biggest takeaway for me is to grease up the bolts and 
> rotate them in and a out a few times, and to STOP screwing it in when I 
> feel a lot of resistance. I am going to be much more careful whenever I 
> tighten bolts from now on for sure!
>
> Ryan
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:18 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Ryan -Oh yeah - been there, done that!Here's one more trick you 
>> can try that I've had success with. Start with lube as suggested (maybe lay 
>> the frame on its side so gravity can promote penetration of the lube). 
>> Apply some "gentle heat" with something like a hair blow dryer. After the 
>> lube has had a chance to penetrate and you have it warmed it up use a punch 
>> or similar tool (small drift or even a screw driver) and wedge the tip into 
>> the dimple your drill bit formed (it looks like you may have one right on 
>> the edge of the sheared bolt) Hold the punch with a  firm grasp and begin 
>> tapping it with a small hammer. The punch should be angled as much as 
>> possible to direct the torque counterclockwise. Tap, tap tap - It will take 
>> at least a few dozen strikes. You may want to mask off the surrounding down 
>> tube with cardboard and  tape to protect it in case the tip of the punch 
>> slips. 
>>
>> Let us know what works so we can all learn from your adventure. Happy 
>> wrenching!
>>
>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 5:34:37 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I did something similar with my 2020 Matthews: overtorqued a dry screw 
>>> holding a front lowrider to the fork leg boss, and snapping the head off, 
>>> leaving <1/8" of the shaft protruding. It was just barely enough to grab 
>>> securely with needle-nose vise grips and with liberal applications of spray 
>>> lubricant, patience, prayer, and 30 minutes of tiny back-and-forth rotation 
>>> I got it out without damage to anything.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:57 PM Brian Forsee  wrote:
>>>
 Ryan,

 If you have a (very) small rotatory tool/dremel you can cut a slot in 
 there and then use a flat head screw driver to back the bolt out. If its 
 not quite *completely* flush you can try grabbing it with some vice 
 grips too.

 Good luck! If you cut a little bit of a slot into the boss itself 
 that's probably no big deal, although depending how deep it gets it may 
 necessitate re-tapping the threads in there.


 Brian

 On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 1:43:21 PM UTC-6 ryan.tre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hello everyone, I've gotten myself into a bit of a predicament with 
> one of my downtube bosses; I've sheared off the bolt flush with the 
> brazed 
> on boss (see pic below).  Any ideas on how to extract it?  I've tried 
> using 
> a drill extractor bit with my drill, but didn't work. 
>
> Thanks!
>

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

[JohnS]

Another trick that I recently learned while installing the Paul mini-mottos 
and touring cantis on my Crust Lighting Bolt Cant (was going to install 
them on my QB but decided the LB-C would benefit from them more) is to 
loosen the return springs so that I didn't have to work against them. I did 
have the cable adjuster turned out most of the way so that I could turn it 
in once I all the adjustments are done. I was able to do the same thing 
with the Tektro 720's on my QB since the spring can be unhooked from the 
brake arm easily. I don't recall if other canti brakes have this option or 
not.

JohnS

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 9:29:59 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> Uh-oh. I am going to have to remove the tires when I reassemble the 
> Bombadil to adjust the brakes now!
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:58:46 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>> I agree with Laing, I spend way too much time setting up canti brakes. I 
>> usually remove the tires and even the fenders when installing them. This 
>> allows me to see how well aligned the brake pad is to the rim as Laing has 
>> noted. I prefer to use brake pad holders for this reason, set them up once 
>> and when the pads wear out, slide out the old pads and slide in the new. No 
>> adjustments necessary.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:46:30 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> That is a pretty good video - he uses the tool to show the 90 degree 
>>> angle. He points out that lowering the straddle (making the straddle cable 
>>> flatter) results in better braking. He even talks about getting the pads as 
>>> close to the arm as possible with the Neo-Retro (wide profile) style 
>>> cantilevers. To steal a phrase from someone - Approve!
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:19:44 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found this Path Less Pedaled video useful when I installed the Paul 
>>>> Touring Cantis on my Atlantis: 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDdWIq4cLLo
>>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone for your responses and particularly to  Laing for that 
>>>> masterclass on how to set up cantis!
>>>>
>>>> Max who's still rethinking handlebar and drivetrain choices for the 
>>>> upcoming Bombadil
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:13:39 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Remember that flat at the straddle and 90 deg at the arms fight each 
>>>>> other - it is always a compromise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laing
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 8:41:13 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Laing: Thanks for this detailed and informing overview; I have read 
>>>>>> it through and will read it again slowly, but I think I get it: 90* to 
>>>>>> brake arm pivots + as flat as possible at straddle, as little toe-in as 
>>>>>> you 
>>>>>> can get by with to prevent squeal, and make sure that the pads meet the 
>>>>>> rim 
>>>>>> brake tracks squarely. I've already done the last 2, must go back and 
>>>>>> look 
>>>>>> at the first 2. The single rear rack strut to seatstay bridge may limit 
>>>>>> my 
>>>>>> options in the rear. My pads are old Kool Stop salmons, the short, 
>>>>>> blocky 
>>>>>> sort. I did make various shim tools for toe in, must seek those out 
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 3:52 PM lconley  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geometry is all important with cantilevers. I will use Paul models 
>>>>>>> for reference. Note that at a certain level, V-brakes are just 
>>>>>>> optimized 
>>>>>>> cantilevers, so much so that they have too much braking force that must 
>>>>>>> be 
>>>>>>> reduced at the levers. If maximizing braking force is the be-all, end 
>>>>>>> all 
>>>>>>> of braking, then why use levers that reduce the braking force? But 
>>>>>>> there is 
>>>>>>> something to be said for V-brakes having less tension (and therefore 
>>>>>>> stretch) on the brake cable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. You want the straddle cable operating at, or as close as p

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

[JohnS]

I agree with Laing, I spend way too much time setting up canti brakes. I 
usually remove the tires and even the fenders when installing them. This 
allows me to see how well aligned the brake pad is to the rim as Laing has 
noted. I prefer to use brake pad holders for this reason, set them up once 
and when the pads wear out, slide out the old pads and slide in the new. No 
adjustments necessary.

JohnS

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:46:30 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> That is a pretty good video - he uses the tool to show the 90 degree 
> angle. He points out that lowering the straddle (making the straddle cable 
> flatter) results in better braking. He even talks about getting the pads as 
> close to the arm as possible with the Neo-Retro (wide profile) style 
> cantilevers. To steal a phrase from someone - Approve!
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:19:44 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>> I found this Path Less Pedaled video useful when I installed the Paul 
>> Touring Cantis on my Atlantis: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDdWIq4cLLo
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your responses and particularly to  Laing for that 
>> masterclass on how to set up cantis!
>>
>> Max who's still rethinking handlebar and drivetrain choices for the 
>> upcoming Bombadil
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:13:39 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Remember that flat at the straddle and 90 deg at the arms fight each 
>>> other - it is always a compromise.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 8:41:13 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Laing: Thanks for this detailed and informing overview; I have read it 
>>>> through and will read it again slowly, but I think I get it: 90* to brake 
>>>> arm pivots + as flat as possible at straddle, as little toe-in as you can 
>>>> get by with to prevent squeal, and make sure that the pads meet the rim 
>>>> brake tracks squarely. I've already done the last 2, must go back and look 
>>>> at the first 2. The single rear rack strut to seatstay bridge may limit my 
>>>> options in the rear. My pads are old Kool Stop salmons, the short, blocky 
>>>> sort. I did make various shim tools for toe in, must seek those out again.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 3:52 PM lconley  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Geometry is all important with cantilevers. I will use Paul models for 
>>>>> reference. Note that at a certain level, V-brakes are just optimized 
>>>>> cantilevers, so much so that they have too much braking force that must 
>>>>> be 
>>>>> reduced at the levers. If maximizing braking force is the be-all, end all 
>>>>> of braking, then why use levers that reduce the braking force? But there 
>>>>> is 
>>>>> something to be said for V-brakes having less tension (and therefore 
>>>>> stretch) on the brake cable.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. You want the straddle cable operating at, or as close as possible 
>>>>> to a 90 degree angle to a line drawn from the brake arm pivot axis (the 
>>>>> post brazed/welded to the frame) to the straddle cable connection to the 
>>>>> arm. This is much easier on a Paul Touring than a Paul Neo-Retro. 
>>>>> Motolites 
>>>>> are basically taking the progression to it's conclusion (Neo-Retro -> 
>>>>> Touring -> Motolite). Note that when working with Neo-Retros, this 
>>>>> generally means rotating the arms as far towards the rim as possible, 
>>>>> using 
>>>>> the fewest, narrowest spacers between the pad and arm as possible (and 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> is allowed by your tires). This is where some "experts" get it all wrong, 
>>>>> they seem to think that the rotation of the arm changes the direct of 
>>>>> travel of the pad at the rim - i.e. the arm carrying the pad should be 
>>>>> straight up, which is untrue. The direction of travel of the pad at the 
>>>>> rim 
>>>>> is fixed by where the relative location of the pivot is to the rim-pad 
>>>>> interface - only a welder can be used to adjust this. The pivot is below 
>>>>> and outside the rim -> the pad will ALWAYS be traveling in a downward arc 
>>>>> relative to the rim. Note that because V-brakes use the same pivots as 
>>>>> cantilevers, the cheapest POS cantilevers that you can find vs. Paul 
&

Re: [RBW] Compact Half-Step plus Granny gearing

[JohnS]

Nice!


On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 8:43:25 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I am down to 11 Rivendells and 10 of them have 135mm spacing (the Frank 
> Jones, SR. is 120) and I weigh 275 lbs - thus the ultra durable 135mm 
> wheels. I have a 40 spoke 132mm Sturmey Archer 3 speed on the Rosco Baby. 
> Jobst Brandt worried about breaking frames, I worry about breaking wheels; 
> not that I break spokes, but like Jobst, I am also a mechanical engineer.  
> I have too many bikes and way more hubs than bikes, I am afraid to count 
> the hubs and wheels that I have. 
> The 120mm wide Frank Jones SR. has my 2nd coolest hub set, a old, fairly 
> rare Campagnolo Hi-Lo hub set with track axle conversion - only 36 holes.  
>
> [image: IMG_1705.jpg]
>
> Laing
>
> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 5:30:09 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Laing: Why the concern with ultra-durable wheels with 135m OL spacing? 
>> Just curious. And what chainings?
>>
>> I recall that one of the smoothest wheelsets I ever rode was a 48-hole -- 
>> must have been built at one time for a tandem -- pair with old Campy Record 
>> freewheel hubset and fixed cog on a 1960s Paramount track bike that my 
>> brother lent me to ride with him in LA over 20 years ago; a very smooth and 
>> inevitable feeling of momentum. 
>>
>> I commuted on a 44/47 5+2 halfstep (no granny; big cog was granny; see 
>> below), later switching to 45/48, with crusiing 17 t cog in the middle of 
>> the cassette shifted with wonderful Kelly Takeoffs and old Record shifters. 
>> Most of my riding was just back-and-forth on the left shifter, 65"/70" or 
>> 66"/71" gears. I half stepped the middle 5 cogs and used the outer with big 
>> for downhills and the inner with the small for steep uphills; ~100" to 
>> ~35", a very usable set of gears, of which I generally used only the middle 
>> band for our rolling terrain (I was a young late-40-something). In fact, 
>> most of my riding was in the 17, just flicking the left shift lever back 
>> and forth -- half-step indexing. All this was on my 1995 26" wheel (25" 
>> actual commuting wheel diameter with 32 mm Tioga City Slickers or somesuch) 
>> Riv Road custom that I'd demoted or promoted to commuting use.
>>
>>   48 45   47 44
>> 12 100   12 98  
>> 13 92 87 13 90 85
>> 15 80 75 15 78 73
>> 17 71 66 17 69 65
>> 20 60 56 20 59 55
>> 24 50 47 24 49 46
>> 32   35 32   34
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 10:49 AM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> Among other changes that I am making to my Bombadil, I am converting to 
>>> my favorite triple gearing: a half-step plus granny. The idea behind a 
>>> half-step plus granny is that the two large chainrings on a triple are 
>>> close in size so that you can split the difference (half-step) between any 
>>> two sprockets on the rear. The inner chainring on the front is a small 
>>> bailout or "granny" gear. This strategy works best when you have a limited 
>>> number of rear cogs - fairly unnecessary when you have 11 or 12 rear cogs. 
>>> The rear cogs should maintain as constant of a % difference (step) as 
>>> possible - this means that the number of teeth difference between cogs will 
>>> increase as the cogs get larger.
>>> I had a Sugino triple on the front - I kept the stainless steel 24t 
>>> granny and used TA Zephyr 39 and 42 middle and outer chainrings (from Peter 
>>> White). The 7 speed freewheel is an NOS Suntour New Winner 
>>> 12-14-16-18-21-26-34 that I bought a few years back for this purpose (they 
>>> seem to have gotten very pricey as of late). This gives me 18 distinct, 
>>> non-overlapping gears from 19 to 95. You do have to double shift (front and 
>>> rear) sometimes to get the gear you want. When I was younger, I taped my 
>>> gear ratios on top of the stem.
>>> I use 7 speed freewheels for the rear hub for the same reason that 
>>> Rivendell is looking into producing 7 speed cassette hubs - less wheel dish 
>>> means a stronger wheel. So far I have acquired 3 Phil Wood rear hubs that 
>>> were either 7 speed 135mm, or that I converted to 7 speed 135mm - a 36 
>>> hole, 40 hole and my latest - an NOS 48 hole. The 48 hole is going on the 
>>> Bombadil to replace the 40 on it now.
>>> One kind of odd thing about this is that the chainrings have ramps and 
>>> pins, but the freewheel has none. I expect it to shift just fine. Rear 
>>> derailleur is all silver Sun XCD and the front will be either the all 
>>> silver IRD Alpina-d already on the bike or an all silver IRD Sub-C - 
>>> whichever plays best with the chainring combination. The chain is a 
>>> stainless steel Wippermann 8 speed that I have ultrasonically cleaned and 
>>> Molten Speed Waxed.
>>> Bar end shifters will be either Dura-Ace 8 speed or Rivendell Silver 2. 
>>> If the indexing works with the Dura-Ace shifters - they will be used, 
>>> otherwise friction will be the Silver 2.
>>>
>>> [image: Half step s.jpg]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
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>>>
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[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur Suggestions

[JohnS]

+1 on Garth's recommendation to use a road double. Something else to 
consider is the BB spindle length. Is it longer that needed? I had a nice 
SKF BB with a long spindle and had over shift issues as well. I switched  
to a BB with a shorter spindle which helped a lot. Also improved the chain 
line and reduced the pedal Q factor. 

Good luck,
JohnS


On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 1:26:06 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Try a road double instead. It'll shift that easily. FD specs have only do 
> with what a mfr. makes, not the real world where combo's are endless. Your 
> clearance of the bottom of the cage depends on the frame. I used to shift a 
> 26/44/48 on my custom road bike with a 105 double(5500) and it was 
> flawless. 
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 12:45:08 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've been having a heckuva time getting my front derailleur to go from 
>> little to big without hopping over. Eventually, if I talked sweetly to it 
>> and said Hail Mary three times, it would usually settle. Even took it to an 
>> experience mechanic. He also lowered it, then slowly kept raising it up, 
>> and also kept working the limit screw. A fraction of a turn was difference 
>> between not reaching the big ring, or going over!
>>
>> It's a White Industries VBC with 46-28. FD is IRD compact triple Aplina. 
>> Friction Microshift thumbie. I think it's bottom pull. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2391 Medium.jpeg]
>>
>> Any suggestions for different FD? May need different chain rings because 
>> of that big jump, but if I do that, I may be best off buying something else 
>> and selling these.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: '85 Specialized Sequoia 63cm

[JohnS]

I would be all over this if it was one size smaller, oh well, maybe next 
time.

Nice review from back in the day...

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/1254945-road-test-bike-review-1986-specialized-sequoia.html

JohnS

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 3:12:52 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

>
> Gorgeous frameset. Had I not just picked up a NOS Centurion from the 80s, 
> I’d be tempted. It doesn’t help that I live just across town… Best of luck 
> in selling it!
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 11:25:37 PM UTC-8 mitchel...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I have officially run out of room for bike storage :( First on 
>> the chopping block... my tall sequoia!! I loved riding this bike when i had 
>> it 650b it was a real great park ripper/slick commuter. One of my favorite 
>> bikes of all time. This is a rare bird in this size.. 
>>
>> Located in SF.. would prefer local pick up but could be down to ship. 
>> Here's the linkage
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-1985-specialized-sequoia/7585806827.html
>>
>> let me know you have any questions!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Pedal Question

[JohnS]

I have Speedplay zero pedals on my road bikes and I really like them. Easy 
to clip in and out. Only down side is that mud or snow can get into the 
cleat which can make it hard to clip in, just need to clean the cleat first.

The MKS Solution pedal looks interesting, one side is a platform and the 
other is SPD. I don't have them, but I'm thinking about it.

https://global.bluelug.com/mks-solution-pedal-blue.html

JohnS

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:25:33 AM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I have the EH-500 on my All Road bike. I guess I recently bought it out of 
> habit. I used to have a pair on my ride everywhere bike (which was stolen). 
> I liked how I could hop on and ride to the bars or out with friends, and I 
> could still go on a longer purposeful ride. Haven't used the clip side for 
> years, but still like the option, I guess! The spikes go in quite easily on 
> the flats side. They do go on sales every once in a while. Shoes are a 
> whole other can of worms!
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:13:37 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I've used almost all the different pedal types (I've not used Time or 
>> Crank Brothers but I have used Sampsons and WTBs and Graftons) including 
>> clips and straps and I wholeheartedly recommend Shimano SPD pedals. PDm520s 
>> are inexpensive and durable and work fine. Some of the SPD clones -- 
>> Ritcheys and Wellgo for example -- work well too, though SPDs seem to 
>> engage and release better than any other make, even Shimano's lower cost 
>> models. And you can often find SPDs used at low prices if you care to try 
>> before spending a great deal.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 7:17 AM Dick Pahle  wrote:
>>
>>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
>>> toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
>>> thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
>>> out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 
>>>
>>> road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano 
>>> mountain bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me with 
>>> one side suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with 
>>> cleats.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.
>>>
>>> dick
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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[JohnS]

Eric did it, his bike is featured on The Radavist...

https://theradavist.com/erics-1985-bridgestone-mb-2-review/

Well done Eric!

JohnS

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 5:48:04 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you, Jose :) 
>
> From what I recall Grant was fairly new at Bridgestone when the '85s came 
> out. Sometime in 2022 I read an account written by Grant about when he 
> first influenced any of the bike design or specifications and when he 
> designed his first frames but I can't recall the dates or where I read 
> this. Probably in a Blahg. 
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 12:19:51 PM UTC-5 Jose wrote:
>
>> Amazing build! Did Grant P design the 1985 MB-1 and MB-2? 
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork 
>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to 
>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>>
>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>>
>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>>
>>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>>
>>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>>
>>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>>
>>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>>
>>> Larger pictures here: 
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[JohnS]

Nick, different bikes for different functions, I subscribe to that.

JohnS (who's family thinks he has too many bikes)

On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 3:42:41 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 at 2:45:51 am UTC+11 JohnS wrote:
> Nick, that's one clean Appaloosa! Did you just give it a refurb? I'm in 
> the process of giving my QB one.
>
> No, the bike has been sitting in my back room for a while as all my 
> cycling lately has been unloaded riding on other bikes. I find that the 
> Appaloosa is too stoutly built for unloaded riding - I have other bikes 
> with frames made from skinnier, lighter gauge tubing that I prefer in that 
> situation.
>
> Nick
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[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[JohnS]

Nick, that's one clean Appaloosa! Did you just give it a refurb? I'm in the 
process of giving my QB one. 

JohnS

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:40:13 AM UTC-5 jad...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nick, I think that photo pushed me over the edge. thanks
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:34:44 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Said brakes on my Appaloosa:
>> [image: PXL_20230214_052955146.jpg]
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[JohnS]

Thanks everyone for sharing, this is fun! Someday I'll get a film camera...

Shawn, that color pic of inside the Riv shop is great. The shadows are 
beyond real.

JohnS

On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 3:32:10 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 7:17:57 PM UTC-6 jamin orrall wrote:
> Taken with a Nikon FE on Kodak portra film. 
>
> He's got Portra, and he knows how to use it 
>
> Apologies to ZZTop
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
>  
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[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[JohnS]

Hello Mike with the Bob Jackson. Nice looking bike. What front cable hanger 
is that? I never seen one like it before.
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 12:23:01 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Got some for the Miyata Triple cross I built as a 2 speed a little while 
> back - I've loved them so far. Easy set up and good performance.
> [image: PXL_20221020_032052542.jpg]
>
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:33:34 AM UTC-6 jad...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> thinking of replacing my Tektro Oryx's (because the sux) with some 980's. 
>> Like to see how they look in the real world..
>
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[RBW] Re: Canti Romulus in South Korea

[JohnS]

Very nice bike and components! Paint looks to be in excellent condition. 
Don't see many of those.

Thanks for sharing and hope you enjoy the ride,
John

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 11:25:44 AM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:

> Beautiful Romulus!
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:34:24 AM UTC-8 Marcus Gomersall wrote:
>
>> I was on the lookout for a steel road bike for a while and jumped at the 
>> chance when I saw this beautiful canti Romulus on instagram in the US. 
>> Luckily, it arrived in South Korea unscathed and is a dream to ride. 
>> Thought you might appreciate this unique bike from the single run of canti 
>> Roms.
>> [image: 20221229_121201.jpg][image: 20221211_124936.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[JohnS]

Wow! I'm super impressed. And I bet they are all in the same great 
condition as your Bombadil. Thanks for sharing.

JohnS


On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:04:43 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> 8 - behind the Bombadil - Betty Foy, Hubbuhubbuh, Frank Jones Sr, Mystery 
> Bike, Gus Boots Willsen, hanging on the wall Rosco Bubbe V1, Rivendell 
> Custom. There are others not in the picture (Clementine, Rosco Bubbe Medium 
> Mountain Mixte, Roscoe Baby, Keven's Custom Mixte). The Hubbuhubbuh has 
> been sold since the picture was taken.
>
> Also in the picture - 2 1973 Schwinn Paramount P-15s, 2 Flying Pigeons, 2 
> Gitane Tour de Frances, Pashley Guv'nor, Crust Scapegoat,  Kent Cavalier 
> (recumbent 3 wheeler).
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 1:19:46 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
> Wait a minute there Laing! How many Riv's are in that picture???
>
> Drill press, one of my favorite tools :)
>
> JohnS
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[JohnS]

Wait a minute there Laing! How many Riv's are in that picture???

Drill press, one of my favorite tools :)

JohnS


On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:21:15 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 4:28:29 PM UTC-5 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
> One thing i've been curious about is the geometry changes over time. 
>
> It seems the Hunqapillars were generally a bit shorter TT's and relatively 
> traditional geometry while the Bombadils ran long (I'm assuming meant more 
> for non drops?). Eventually all Rivendells started getting lnger and 
> more swept back bar designed. The Hunqapillars took over the Bombadils in 
> terms of production. Which is funny because I was always under the 
> impression hunqs were cheaper bombas, but the top tubes have always from 
> what i've seen been longer on the bombas. 
>
> It seems to me the 58 hunqs and bombas were around 61-62 and the 60 (?) 
> were 62-64? is this correct? It seems the charts vary as well as peoples 
> physical measurements (especially with the sloping tubes) 
>
> Has anyone ridden or tried out different length variations or a 
> hunqapillar and a bombadil in terms of drop bar oriented or swept back 
> oriented designs? 
>
>
> Mackenzey, You have it correct in that the Bombas were a bit longer in 
> reach and front-center overall. There's no direct comparing them as the 
> frame sizes were never the same, save the 48cm. If the H frames were an 
> equal to or greater than the B in terms of stack, reach and f-c I would 
> have purchased one, but they were not.  Even the 62 H didn't have the 
> reach/f-c of 60 B.The 60 B from the original batch is dimensionally "just 
> right" for me. 
>
> The frames in mass didn't go looong-er in the font end until the 2019 Clem 
> update. Well, not all of them did, not the road bikes. But all the others 
> went much longer than previous. As if everyone wants or needs to ride with 
> a vertical posture ? (Rhetorically) Hah hah  certainly 
> not...(Me,We,Thee) !  To me the whole lengthening of the bikes is from the 
> belief in the vertical posture(ride like a horseman) thing and long 
> chainstays. Having the rear end long, without the front long, and sitting 
> vertically, well I could sense that as being a bit unbalanced feeling. 
> (opinion here) Well gee, the vertical benefit thing is assumptive to begin 
> with so there is no cure/compensation for it. If the stays weren't so 
> long the front end wouldn't need to be so long either, like how the Bomba 
> is. Of course one can still ride posture-vertical on any bike if that's 
> your thing, you certainly don't need surfboard length to do it. 
>
> In regards to decals mine has none, as it had the original font style that 
> to me, just didn't fit the bike. I prefer no brandings/names of frames 
> anyways. Create a cool looking(subjective, I know) small "LaBomba" or "Mad 
> Bomba" sticker and maybe I'd consider it   ((( laughing ))). The 
> frame/form speaks for itself though and doesn't need anything more. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Blue Lug / Nitto strut light mount hack

[JohnS]

Thank you BB for sharing. Nice, clean mounts for rear lights can be hard to 
find/improvise. How do you like the light? I'm not familiar with that one.

JohnS

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 8:46:33 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was looking for a better way to mount my Koma rear light onto my Gus, 
> but still keeping the light high enough to see, AND using the original 
> light hardware for ease of unscrewing it and charging it each time.
>
> Then I found this neat little hack on Blue Lug's site and decided to try 
> it. Allows you to mount a light anywhere along the length of a Nitto rack 
> strut, and it's pretty unobtrusive-looking. I know the Nitto (left and 
> right side) light mount does the same thing, but it was too big and 
> unwieldy (and pricey) for this purpose. Plus, I like how this mount allows 
> me to tuck the light cleanly up under the rack platform, so it's not 
> sticking out very far.
>
> All you need is the Minoura Gamoh rack adapter (sold as a 2-pack), found 
> here through The Inconvenience Store: 
> https://the-inconvenience-store.com/collections/blue-lug/products/gamoh-rack-adapter
> ...and an extra Nitto daruma bolt (strut bolt).
>
> Optional: lop off and file the unused tab and voila! A clean, simple, 
> light mount for your Koma light!
> [image: IMG_4420.jpg][image: IMG_4419.jpg][image: IMG_4422.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Roaduno catnip

[JohnS]

Thank you Doug. I think that was the only blug post that I didn't look at 
the other day.

JohnS

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I want one with Bullmoose bars and cantilevers, in purple of course. Need 
> is a different matter...
>
> Laing
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:03:07 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> John,
>> There is one on the linked blog below. You'll need to scroll a bit to 
>> find the photo. Note that the fork is mismatched. 
>> Blog 
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/done-done-wrong-proably-still-doing-wrong>
>> Doug
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:50:53 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Does any one have a link to a picture of a fully built Roaduno? I was 
>>> looking for one the other day and the closest I could find was the pics of 
>>> the three frames without paint. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5 mark e wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am excited to see the Uno in purple. 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:13:09 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From Will's email update today:
>>>>> September: Roaduno complete and frames (lime-olive, purple and dark 
>>>>> gold).
>>>>>
>>>>> That's good news!
>>>>>
>>>>> Roaduno dreaming,
>>>>>
>>>>> Edwin
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Roaduno catnip

[JohnS]

Does any one have a link to a picture of a fully built Roaduno? I was 
looking for one the other day and the closest I could find was the pics of 
the three frames without paint. 

Thanks!
JohnS

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5 mark e wrote:

> I am excited to see the Uno in purple. 
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:13:09 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> From Will's email update today:
>> September: Roaduno complete and frames (lime-olive, purple and dark gold).
>>
>> That's good news!
>>
>> Roaduno dreaming,
>>
>> Edwin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

[JohnS]

A double Joe on e-bay, too bad about the fork, says the frame is ok, my 
size, but I'm not interested in the couplers, hope the link works...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195580791334?hash=item2d89860a26:g:8xQAAOSwFcVj2rdv=enc%3AAQAHoJv5UDIf9dDzr79gBBXMhsE8B9HpZo%2Fqge9EDALLRrwXxaXDKk2Bx8qCfNa63hWX%2FNheZOQ6pKAiAOeEbRkMvVYBgpQgArMvYyJsXr382Y9%2BFgsiT%2FVZ7onThJP1Pm8JDrnCDiSCxq6%2F9XGMPv8JKadJzDe2jwKQX5HJiqyVfqBIDaIvo5CKIjNLW0RTcUaiZyv61SKTspQaaBv9FWZdBuQ%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9jBhK3CYQ

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 9:38:48 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> That was snapped up fast!. Reynold decal on fork leads me to believe it's 
> an early Waterford Road or LL
>
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Epic custom!
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 2:12:32 PM UTC-8 mmille...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure the condition under the dirt, but looks like good value for a 
>>> custom Riv if you are in the San Jose area. Heck, could sell those tower 
>>> bars and nitto, clean and relist if you don't like it.
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/san-jose-waterford-built-rivendell/7583922987.html[image:
>>>  
>>> 00d0d_a7kqoWQLvI0_0CI0lM_1200x900.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 8:20:25 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Looks like a price drop on the 60cm Hillborne in Vienna. 

 [image: 325914195_6538259239522205_455293595224308313_n.jpg]

 Sam Hillborne
 60cm
 $1,850
 Vienna, Virginia 

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 On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 9:57:19 PM UTC-5 aelga...@castilleja.org 
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> And I’m selling my beautiful Sam in San Mateo.  $2100 
> Pedals and saddle not included. 
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 5:57 PM Eliot Balogh  
> wrote:
>
>> There’s a beautiful Ram in Ft Lauderdale
>>
>>
>> https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/bik/d/fort-lauderdale-2007-rivendell/7572481687.html
>>
>>
>> And this Sam in Atlanta
>>
>>
>> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/d/decatur-rivendell-hillborne-blue-and/7565756188.html
>>
>>
>> I would have jumped on one if I wasn’t Atlantis hunting. 
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[RBW] Re: Fun film encounter

[JohnS]

Julian,

Your friend has a very good eye for composition. I could see having that 
one framed.

JohnS

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 8:07:53 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:

> this is great!
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 4:52:38 PM UTC-8 weste...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> About 2 weeks ago I was riding home from work on a cold, grey day and 
>> overtook a two friend walking on the multi-use trail on which i commute. I 
>> stopped to chat, and one of them got out a camera and asked if she could 
>> take some photos -- I said sure... 
>>
>> She just emailed me this digital image of the print image she took and 
>> developed -- she'll being over the actual print this weekend. Neato -- 
>> although had I been thinking about the photo instead of chatting I would 
>> have flipped the bike around drive-side out!  
>>
>> Bike is my Clem H 65 cm. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL  
>>
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[RBW] Re: What's up with welded Nitto parts?

[JohnS]

Thank you Jeff for sharing. Eric had mentioned Circles bike shop in his 
MB-2 build, so I appreciate the link.

Is it just me or is it kind of crazy that we have to search the world over 
to find a particular bike part It shouldn't have to be this hard to 
find current production parts. I could understand if it were some odd, 
vintage part that was out of production for decades, but really, production 
parts not available in the US. Ugh, rant off.

JohnS

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:29:42 PM UTC-5 jeff dobie wrote:

> I have been looking for a particular Nitto stem for several months with no 
> luck and some how stumbled on this place in Japan Circles bicycle shop 
> https://shop.circles-jp.com/en  shipping was only $22 and they shipped 
> right away via fedex
> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:37:21 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The way I read it - a completely wild guess - is the supply has been 
>> terrible for years and most of it has gotten too pricey to try to sell. Riv 
>> has been slowly replacing everything welded with cheaper/more plentiful 
>> options, I imagine they're going to keep the forged stems and that's about 
>> it. Guessing! 
>>
>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 2:28:29 PM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know what's going on here???
>>>
>>> From Will's January update email...
>>>
>>>  *Anything Nitto makes that's welded might get scarce soon. We still 
>>> have big back racks, fillet stems, bullmoose bars, 32F mini front racks, 
>>> brake hangers, and lugged stems and posts; If you've been eyeing something 
>>> on that list, I'd get it now.*
>>>
>>> That's kind of scary! Nitto parts are my favs.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[JohnS]

+1 on the coin trick, but I've used a large flat washer, no federal offense 
committed :P

JohnS


On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:26:33 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This works if the threaded hole is open at the outer end but not if it's 
> capped. I've managed to spread Nitto stems with a large flathead 
> screwdriver but yes, the Nitto spreader tool is far easier to use. If the 
> absence of the Nitto tool, a thin but stiff and sturdy and properly thick 
> piece of steel works better than the flathead which will have a tapered 
> profile that makes this use awkward.
>
> FWIW, way back in the day when I several times installed drop bars onto my 
> 55 cm XO-1 and my first, similarly-sized (54 cm) 1995 Riv road custom 
> (Grant said "Don't you dare" when I told him I'd tell others how much I 
> liked the compact, XO-1-style frame design, but I think the statute of 
> limitations has expired) using the penny trick. In fact, several times I 
> installed a 26.4 mm Cinelli Giro d'Italia bar into 25.4mm Tioga and Salsa 
> steel stems using this method; steel is very forgiving.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:13 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I usually have a nickel (with a few, round dents already in it) somewhere 
>> on one of my work stands for when I need to do this. Dime is too thin, a 
>> penny too soft and a quarter is too valuable!
>> David in Berkeley
>>
>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:27:32 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Brian, 
>>>
>>> If your stem has a tapped hole for the clamp bolt (as many steel stems 
>>> have, rather than a loose nut like many aluminum Nittos) you can use this 
>>> method:
>>>
>>> Helpful tip: Take the pinch bolt out. Insert a coin in the slot between 
>>> the clamp area. Thread the bolt in from the back side. Tighten it against 
>>> the coin. It will force the clamp open and it will stay that way during 
>>> your install.
>>>
>>> (I copied this from the net, rather than type up my own description.)
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[JohnS]

Thank you Eric on the cable length tip. I'll measure/eyeball a few times 
before cutting. Now I can't decide if I want the Nissen clear or steel blue 
to work with the blue in the head badge, too many choices.

John

On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 11:13:59 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mike — Wow, definitely sounds like the same bike I started out with. I 
> thought I had some footage of the disassembled bike but I couldn't find any 
> when it came time for the edit. Bridgestone called the color "shadow blue" 
> in their catalog (here's a link 
> 
>  
> for reference). The catalog also specs the weight at 32lbs so you're right 
> on. Very cool you got Grant to sign it and maybe the new owner has come 
> around to checking out the old Bridgestone and Rivendell lore. The gold 
> Araya rims are now on an MB-3 from the same year I built up for a friend. 
>
> Paul — Thanks for checking it out! 
>
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 11:35:06 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> Fantastic Eric. Congrats, nicely done.
>>
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I 
>>> have a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>>
>>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but 
>>> for the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame 
>>> over to Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork 
>>> and seat stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to 
>>> the downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>>
>>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>>
>>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>>
>>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>>
>>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>>
>>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>>
>>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>>
>>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>>
>>> Larger pictures here: 
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[JohnS]

Hello Eric,

How do you like the  Sim Works x Nissen brake housing? I'm thinking of 
using the clear on my Quickbeam (also trying to minimize black on the 
build), would be the same Superbe brake levers (from my '83 expedition) and 
Paul brakes, except the front will be the mini-mottos. Usually I use 
Jagwire pro-slick cables and housings, kind of spoiled by them.

Thank you!
JohnS

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 4:17:47 PM UTC-5 David Pulsipher wrote:

> beautiful work Eric - thank you for sharing with us!
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 4:06:27 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[JohnS]

Eric and Greg,

Both are excellent builds! Well done. Any chance we'll see either of them 
featured on The Radavist, Reader's Rides???

I would like to see a frame overlay of Eric's MB-2 and my '82 Stumpjumper. 
Looks like they have very similar geometries and long wheelbases. 

JohnS

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:44:15 AM UTC-5 MoVelo wrote:

> Eric, beautiful build. looks like you had fun with that one!
>
> Greg, very nice restoration.
>
> James P
> mid-nebraska
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:45:38 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> Wow - labor of love! So much attention to detail. I love seeing people 
>> pour time and money into something with no expectation for "getting their 
>> money out of it" at the end. 
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA  
>>
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[RBW] What's up with welded Nitto parts?

[JohnS]

Anyone know what's going on here???

>From Will's January update email...

 *Anything Nitto makes that's welded might get scarce soon. We still have 
big back racks, fillet stems, bullmoose bars, 32F mini front racks, brake 
hangers, and lugged stems and posts; If you've been eyeing something on 
that list, I'd get it now.*

That's kind of scary! Nitto parts are my favs.

JohnS

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[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica carbon rails with Nitto S65 seatpost?

[JohnS]

That's interesting. I wonder what they think of the  Selle Anatomica carbon 
rails being used with an S83? I have that set up on my Crust Lightning 
Bold/canti for well over a year and seems to be fine to me. Then again the 
S83 has two bolts to clamp the rails, maybe that's the difference.

JohnS

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:

> The silence from the group and Nitto's web page has given me my answer. 
> If you gotta ask, don't do it! 
>
> Cheers,
> Andrew- will-soon-be-selling-carbon-rails- Turner
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 2:08:17 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Simple question, 
>> I have a set of carbon rails from Selle Anatomica I'd like to install but 
>> wanted to double-check that the Nitto S65 seatpost I'll be using won't 
>> present a problem. Would I need to opt for a double-bolt design instead? 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>> Andrew-  shaving-50-dumb-grams  -Turner
>>
>

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