Re: [Repeater-Builder] Heliax Transmission Line
AND DONT FORGET GROUND KITS ! you need at least 3 .. one at top one and the bottom before the bend and one before it enters the building !( as per andrews) I also did the same but mine is only 80 ft long at 100 ft I would put one at the 50ft mark also but that's just me and the kits cost so little and are sooo easy to install ( I paid $5.00 per unit on Ebay BRAND NEW so I bout 10 pcs as I still have over 200 ft left and no its not fore sale :) ) On 23 Feb 2005 at 19:14, Eric Lemmon wrote: Will, TESSCO quotes about $295 for 100 feet, and about $35 each for the connectors. There are other manufacturers of 7/8 hardline, such as Cablewave and Eupen, that may cost less. Be careful to measure EXACTLY the length you need, so that you can work a deal on a remnant if it becomes available. Don't forget to include the cost of the special hangers, clamps, and standoffs that are part of a professional installation of a Heliax feedline. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY n2odw wrote: Could anybody out here give an estimate price on 100ft of the Heliax cable 7/8 LDFA5-50 and a good site to oder from. Thanks Will / W4WWM Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005 Rick Szajkowski VA3 RZS Charlotte Darby VA3 CMR Node Owners of IRLP Node 2120 147.300 + VE3 KZK 224.420 - VE3 KZK Peterborough Ont. Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Heliax Transmission Line
Hello Will, I work for a wireless company and we routinely throw out 100 foot lengths of coax as scrap. The average monopole tower is 190 feet, so less than that is not worth keeping. If I were you, I would try to find someone local to your area in the business, a piece that you want can be had for the price of a case of good beer. It probably will include connectors. BTW, why 7/8 cable for a 100 foot run? 1/2 inch would be more economical and easier to have shipped. Depending upon frequency, there may not be much difference in loss on a 100 foot run. 73, Joe, K1ike n2odw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Could anybody out here give an estimate price on 100ft of the Heliax cable 7/8 LDFA5-50 and a good site to oder from. Thanks Will / W4WWM Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38Max Question
yes hold the reset down after powering up the unit for 10 seconds it will reset all to factory default Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Master II base station conversion to a repeater
I have a Master II base station in 6 foot cabinet. I want to convert it to a repeater. Is there any information available on line I can print out to make this conversion. I have the base station manual and also a repeater manual. Now this is kinda painful trying to do a comparison between the 2 manuals.. I have basicly stripped out the antenna switching hardware for the transfer and the amp is all set too. I have the repeater card for the rack also. Looking for some simple cross reference if there is one... Thanks.. Joel K9MLD Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Master II base station conversion to a repeater
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/geindex.html Is your first stop. I wound up putting a DB9 in the middle of the backplane where the hole for the audio transformer goes. Works for me I'm using the RC-210 controller which has a pull to ground for TX CTCSS. I put an SS-64 encode only board in the exciter drawer and ran a wire from the DB9 to their and the output goes into CG hi on the exciter connector pin. Also, go through the documentation above to set up the 10V regulator card for full duplex = not bad at all, just change I believe 2 jumpers and you're all set. Don't need any other cards, pull of discriminator audio off the back plane. John/N4SJW --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, joel_eschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Master II base station in 6 foot cabinet. I want to convert it to a repeater. Is there any information available on line I can print out to make this conversion. I have the base station manual and also a repeater manual. Now this is kinda painful trying to do a comparison between the 2 manuals.. I have basicly stripped out the antenna switching hardware for the transfer and the amp is all set too. I have the repeater card for the rack also. Looking for some simple cross reference if there is one... Thanks.. Joel K9MLD Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Want to learn more about 10m and lowband repeaters
Hi. I have two home made repeaters on the air below 30MHz and I would love to learn more about these when they are professionally installed and designed. If you could point me to technical sites talking about duplexers, cavities, amplifiers, antennas and such, it would be greatly appreciated. Also if you have any experience in the field and have a web site put up, please by all means, indicate the link! Thanks to all. Olivier. Santo Domingo. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cleaning out the Shack.
Hello Ray, how are you doing? How much are you asking for the RLC? Please let me know. If you want to call at 760-559-4798 Thanks, Art ___ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT-10
I am still in need of a manual for the Standard repeater model RPT-10 if anyone has one or a copy for sale. I cut the amp deck from a 110 watt Mitrek and had to pad it down to run 65 watts. Added a couple of fans and it has survived 45 minutes into a load. Just need the tuning instructions for the RPT-10 when the crystals get here. Thank You WA0VUSLarry KemperMuscatine, Iowa Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. attachment: tech.gif
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cleaning out the Shack.
Hello Art, i am not selling the rlc it is staying on the VV repeater. let me know if you are interested in anything else i will make you a good deal. 73 Ray For Sale: NHRC-10 repeater controller with NHRC 10-CAB cabinet and NHRC 10-DOUT 8 channel digital output board, latest firmware. More information can be found at www.nhrc.net/nhrc-10/index.php Asking $500.00 Or Make Offer NHRC-3 Repeater controller, more information can be found at www.nhrc.net/nhrc-3/ This controller has been sitting around for many years and was working when it was taken out and replaced by the NHRC-10 Above. This controller has the 90 seconds of voice storage. Make Offer. Cat-200B Repeater controller. Unit was briefly in service and worked well but I was not happy with the command structure and replaced it with an easier to use controller. This unit comes with the Rack Mount Enclosure. More information can be found at www.catauto.com/cat200.html Make Offer Tenma 72-585 RF Generator. Comes with power cable and bnc to alligator clip cable. This unit is in good working order. Make Offer. Tektronix Oscilloscope model 2213 Duel Channel, 60 Mhz. Comes with Three probes 2-Tektronix Probes (Unknown model numbers both work) and one B+K Precision PR 31 and a power cord. Both the Operators manual and Service Manual are included. This unit is in perfect working order. More Information can be found here www.tucker.com/images/images_spec/1068.pdf Asking $550.00 or make offer. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
At 2/23/2005 03:46 PM, you wrote: Well it seems that I am told I have to change frequencies, has it that one of my users interferred with the same troublesome repeater I've had all along, and now the coordinator says I have to move. Not sure how well all the equipment will handle the change. Here is what I have as equipment, and will it all make it there. We are moving from 146.925- to 145.410-, and the expense is the last thing I needed right now. GE MASTR PRO ER41 Receiver So you'll be dropping the RX about 1.5 MHz. Never had a problem with the VHF Mastr Pro RX I took down to 144.84. Vocom Amp, tuned for 146.925 and then to top if off, I just got the phasing harness for the DB224 and it was cut right for 146.925. The phasing harness is broad enough that you won't see a difference at the new freq. My main transmitter is the (no arguements please), Maggorie HiPro transmitter exiting 2 watts to the vocom amp. TX RX Duplexers. How low in frequency will the MASTR Pro go before I loose quality sensitivity, right now, it's about .15 uv with a preamp, and receives excellent. It should work fine. In fact, the preamp ahead of it will make any small degradation in the RX noise figure as a result of the move negligible. The vocom amp is model #VVC200-2ref and was designed for the 146 Mhz range. I'm sure the duplexers should not be a problem, other than getting them re-tuned. Thoughts! I don't see any problems other than all the work involved in retuning everything. What anger's me the most about this, is that the repeater owner went straight to the coordinator, did not bother to talk with me. I changed the PL of the repeater. Your user may have been getting too good of a signal into the other repeater's RX. Even with everything CTCSS-protected, a user of one repeater can still block signals intended for the other system. Other sad part is, the user that was getting into their system was not getting into the main receiver, but rather a remote site. I wonder how tight his receiver really is, and is it a synthesized radio, or something of quality. If it's on-channel, it doesn't matter so long as the remote RX of the other system is coordinated. A quality RX will not reject on-freq. signals just because they're intended for another repeater. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Found Hallicrafters Cb manuals
Will the fella who emails about the cb-5 and CB-8 manuals please make his fine self known to me. I have found them. mdm ted 708-681-0300 Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio Ltd - 1629-B N. 31 st Ave Melrose Park, IL 60160 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 web http://www.mdmradio.com - Check it now!! __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
Mathew, As a former freq coordinator myself, it seems to me that this is a completely illogical situation unless there is something I don't know. If both repeaters were properly coordinated in the first place, and there is interference from a user of one getting into the input of the other, that's what we just used to have to live with. It can only be prevented by the user himself using great care to avoid the other machine. If they had different PL's it would help and should keep the remote receiver from keying up and feeding the other repeater. I personally don't see how they could hold you responsible for this type of interference and request you change frequencies, it appears to be a completely unreasonable request and seems that some coordinator is trying to take the easy way out at your expense. And, if there is a problem, it seems it is the coordinator that screwed up and not you. Gar - Original Message - From: "Mathew Quaife" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers All understood there, but the kicker is that my equipment did not interfere with his repeater, it was a user that is about 70 miles away that got into one of his remote receiver's. I'm considering the fight of staying my grounds, and letting the coordinator know that if my system was the cause, fine, but a user is the culprit, how does that affect me. So to say, any frequency by regulations is allowed simplex operation, and should one decide to go off by say 10kc's and talk and if the output of the repeater interfere's, they should shut the repeater off, because, in this sense of his offering's, is the last to come, the first to leave. I believe all the frequencies were simplex before they became duplex. And answer is that I doubt very seriously that any of the remote receiver sites here in Indiana are coordinated. How could they be, in fact anywhere, that only reduces the 100 mile radius they attempt to maintain in coordinating repeaters. Also, both repeaters used the same 131.8 PL. Mathew -Original Message- From: Bob Dengler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:06 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers At 2/23/2005 03:46 PM, you wrote: Well it seems that I am told I have to change frequencies, has itthat one of my users interferred with the same troublesome repeaterI've had all along, and now the coordinator says I have to move.Not sure how well all the equipment will handle the change. Here iswhat I have as equipment, and will it all make it there. We aremoving from 146.925- to 145.410-, and the expense is the last thingI needed right now.GE MASTR PRO ER41 Receiver So you'll be dropping the RX about 1.5 MHz. Never had a problem with the VHF Mastr Pro RX I took down to 144.84. Vocom Amp, tuned for 146.925and then to top if off, I just got the phasing harness for the DB224and it was cut right for 146.925. The phasing harness is broad enough that you won't see a difference at the new freq. My main transmitter is the (no arguements please), Maggorie HiProtransmitter exiting 2 watts to the vocom amp.TX RX Duplexers.How low in frequency will the MASTR Pro go before I loose qualitysensitivity, right now, it's about .15 uv with a preamp, andreceives excellent. It should work fine. In fact, the preamp ahead of it will make any small degradation in the RX noise figure as a result of the move negligible. The vocom amp is model #VVC200-2ref and wasdesigned for the 146 Mhz range.I'm sure the duplexers should not be a problem, other than gettingthem re-tuned. Thoughts! I don't see any problems other than all the work involved in retuning everything. What anger's me the most about this, is that the repeater owner wentstraight to the coordinator, did not bother to talk with me. Ichanged the PL of the repeater. Your user may have been getting too good of a signal into the other repeater's RX. Even with everything CTCSS-protected, a user of one repeater can still block signals intended for the other system. Other sad part is, the user that was getting into their system wasnot getting into the main receiver, but rather a remote site. Iwonder how tight his receiver really is, and is it a synthesizedradio, or something of quality. If it's on-channel, it doesn't matter so long as the remote RX of the other system is coordinated. A "quality" RX will not reject on-freq. signals just because they're "intended" for another repeater. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
Am I missing something or would a change in PL eliminate the other repeater from opening?? I have a similar situation with my repeater and while we are over a 100 miles apart and a mountain range between, occassionly is we open the PL, we can weakly hear the repeater. With the PL activated. No interference. I hope I didn't misread something. Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All understood there, but the kicker is that my equipment did not interferewith his repeater, it was a user that is about 70 miles away that got intoone of his remote receiver's. I'm considering the fight of staying mygrounds, and letting the coordinator know that if my system was the cause,fine, but a user is the culprit, how does that affect me. So to say, anyfrequency by regulations is allowed simplex operation, and should one decideto go off by say 10kc's and talk and if the output of the repeaterinterfere's, they should shut the repeater off, because, in this sense ofhis offering's, is the last to come, the first to leave. I believe all thefrequencies were simplex before they became duplex. And answer is that I doubt very seriously that any of the remote receiversites here in Indiana are coordinated. How could they be, in fact anywhere,that only reduces the 100 mile radius they attempt to maintain incoordinating repeaters. Also, both repeaters used the same 131.8 PL.Mathew-Original Message-From: Bob Dengler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:06 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, NeedAnswersAt 2/23/2005 03:46 PM, you wrote:Well it seems that I am told I have to change frequencies, has itthat one of my users interferred with the same troublesome repeaterI've had all along, and now the coordinator says I have to move.Not sure how well all the equipment will handle the change. Here iswhat I have as equipment, and will it all make it there. We aremoving from 146.925- to 145.410-, and the expense is the last thingI needed right now.GE MASTR PRO ER41 ReceiverSo you'll be dropping the RX about 1.5 MHz. Never had a problem with the VHF Mastr Pro RX I took down to 144.84.Vocom Amp, tuned for 146.925and then to top if off, I just got the phasing harness for the DB224and it was cut right for 146.925.The phasing harness is broad enough that you won't see a difference at the new freq.My main transmitter is the (no arguements please), Maggorie HiProtransmitter exiting 2 watts to the vocom amp.TX RX Duplexers.How low in frequency will the MASTR Pro go before I loose qualitysensitivity, right now, it's about .15 uv with a preamp, andreceives excellent.It should work fine. In fact, the preamp ahead of it will make any small degradation in the RX noise figure as a result of the move negligible. The vocom amp is model #VVC200-2ref and wasdesigned for the 146 Mhz range.I'm sure the duplexers should not be a problem, other than gettingthem re-tuned. Thoughts!I don't see any problems other than all the work involved in retuning everything.What anger's me the most about this, is that the repeater owner wentstraight to the coordinator, did not bother to talk with me. Ichanged the PL of the repeater.Your user may have been getting too good of a signal into the other repeater's RX. Even with everything CTCSS-protected, a user of one repeater can still block signals intended for the other system.Other sad part is, the user that was getting into their system wasnot getting into the main receiver, but rather a remote site. Iwonder how tight his receiver really is, and is it a synthesizedradio, or something of quality.If it's on-channel, it doesn't matter so long as the remote RX of the other system is coordinated. A "quality" RX will not reject on-freq. signals just because they're "intended" for another repeater.Bob NO6BYahoo! Groups Links-- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT-10
Transmitter RPT-10 make sure the repeater mode is in the non rpt mode. 1 Connect a mic to the mic jack and depress the PTT 2 connect VTVM for dc between TP-2 and ground, and adjust L102, L103,L104 and L105 sequentially for maximum reading, Repeater several times 3 connect VTVM between TP-4 and ground and adjust L106 and L10 alternately for maximum reading 4 connect VTVM between TP-5 and ground, and Adjust L106, L107, L108 and L109 alternately for maximum reading. 5 connect VTVM betweenTP-7 and ground, and adjust L110 and L111 alternately for maximum reading. 6 connect the VTVM between the TP-9 and ground, and adjust L112 and L113 alternately for maximum reading 7 adjust C156 and C160 alternately for maximum response on the wattmeter. 8 Repeater Steps 6 and 7 9 set service monitor to the exact transmit frequency and set the transmit freq. by adjusting C21 10 Connect the 1000Hz audio output of the tone generator between pins 1 and 4(ground) of the mic jack and setup the FM deviation meter. 11 Adjust the audio level to 30mV 12 Key the Transmitter and adjust the Instantaneous dev. control IDC pot R142 to obtain +/- 5.5KHz dev 13 Reduce audio outputof the tone generator to 5mV and key the Transmitter. Verify that the Dev is 3kHz Min. If dev is less, low audio gain is indicated. Check the voltage levels in the audio circuit. 14 Increase the audio level 20dB and key the transmitter. Check that the Dev. does not exceed +/- 4.5 to 5 kHz. Receiver:: RPT-10 Prior to alignment of the receiver, make sure RPT switch is in NON-Repeater mode 1 set squelch control for maximum noise (full counterclockwise) and the volume control to mid-position. 2 connect the dc volt meter to TP-1. Adjust L113 and L114 for maximum voltage reading 3 Connect the dc voltmeter to TP-2 and adjust L115 and L116 for maximum voltage reading 4 Set communications monitor (sig gen function) to the proper input frequency (unpopulated) and set the output to ZERO. 5 connect an AC voltmeter between Pins 5 and 8 of the control receptacle with an 8ohm, 2 watt dummy load connect in parallel 6 adjust L107, L108, L104, and L105 in that order, for maximum speaker output noise level as indicated on the ac voltmeter. 7 connect a 25-0-25 microammeter between tpin6 of J10 and ground, Pin 5 8 adjust L105 for Zero center reading on the microammeter. Verify that the speaker output voltmeter reading does not change. 9 Apply a modulated RF input signal approx. 12 dB SINAD 10 Adjust L105 and L104 for maximum SINAD Sensitivity. 11 Reduce the RF input to ZERO 12 Adjust L108 for ZERO reading on the microammeter. 13 set the cavity core to mid-position 14 adjust the unmodulated RF input signal for 10dB QS 15 Adjust L101, L102, L103 and the three adjustments on the receiver cavity in that order, for minimum noise level output. The RF signal may need to be reduced to keep the receiver at the 10dB quieting sensitivity level. Following the completion of the receiver alignment, re-check the 20dB quieting and squelch sensitivities, and replace the cover(s). Im trying to get the TP and parts placement scanned for you and maybe we can post this at the RPTIP web site when all complete.. Brent KF4TNP - Original Message - From: Larry Kemper To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT-10 I am still in need of a manual for the Standard repeater model RPT-10 if anyone has one or a copy for sale. I cut the amp deck from a 110 watt Mitrek and had to pad it down to run 65 watts. Added a couple of fans and it has survived 45 minutes into a load. Just need the tuning instructions for the RPT-10 when the crystals get here. Thank You WA0VUSLarry KemperMuscatine, Iowa No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 tech.gifNo virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...it was a user that is about 70 miles away that got into one of his remote receiver's It sure seems like this would be worth negotiating with the coordinator. If the intent is to maintain 100 miles between repeaters, it would seem logical that your repeater's service area would extend no further than half that distance or 50 miles. If someone farther out is attempting to access your repeater while in proximity to a machine he can interfere with - that user should be admonished to cease desist. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
In a message dated 2/24/05 2:49:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All understood there, but the kicker is that my equipment did not interferewith his repeater, it was a user that is about 70 miles away that got intoone of his remote receiver's. I'm considering the fight of staying mygrounds, and letting the coordinator know that if my system was the cause,fine, but a user is the culprit, how does that affect me. If the Jay county repeater group is the one complaining they shouldn't be using 131.8 at all. The Indiana Repeater Council (www.ircinc.org)recommends 127.3 or 82.5 for their area. I cant believe the IRC would tell you to move freq in this situation, this is a user problem, pretty much out of your control. I would hold my ground at least for now. Chris N9LLO 927.4875 444.025 53.39 Kokomo In. 444.025 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
Agreed, but I do believe that changing the PL should have solved the issue, I'm going back to the coordinator and ask if he is willing to seek a month of trial and see if the issue is gone. Don't want to take the thread into a coordinating issue, just hate them expenses if I can avoid it. Mathew -Original Message- From: nj902 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...it was a user that is about 70 miles away that got into one of his remote receiver's It sure seems like this would be worth negotiating with the coordinator. If the intent is to maintain 100 miles between repeaters, it would seem logical that your repeater's service area would extend no further than half that distance or 50 miles. If someone farther out is attempting to access your repeater while in proximity to a machine he can interfere with - that user should be admonished to cease desist. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Receivers and Optimal Use of CTCSS
Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you are desperate never put more than one PL decoder between the user and the system transmitter. Some times you can't help it when the options are limited. Up to this point in the hardware the entire system was carrier squelch. We don't have that luxury in metro locations like LA and SF. I'm sure the same applies to many of the East Coast and Mid America Metro Areas. Carrier Squelch links get played with... The main user PL decoder (100hz) was on the voter output and fed the PL decode line of the repeater controller. We experienced problems with the voter selecting stronger undesired csq signals, which wander around the bands like magic. Some of these magic signals are sent by undesired types with a lot of free time on their hands. This way if you came up with 100hz any RX would work. Later the individual link Maxtrac RXs were programmed for different PLs and diode OR'ed together with the main user PL decoder. The unique PL tones were intended for the repeater committee members to RX test site coverage with but ended up with the users using them as well. If you came up with, for example, 107.2Hz only link #1 RX would open, or 123.0HZ brought up RX #3, but the OR'ed PL decode lines caused the repeater controller to see a PL decode signal and the system came up. So for the cost of programming the Maxtracs for active-low-PL decode and a few diodes the system had remote system diagnosis... it didn't take knowing the 420mhz link frequencies and a scanner to determine that, for example, the south receiver was numb the end-user could use his HT with the proper unique PL tone and see how quieting they were. Mike WA6ILQ You can do the same thing or similar test with less hardware and logic lines from the repeater controller back to the voter force select or lockout function with simple dtmf macro commands. Call me lazy... skipp Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: Kathrein 420-449 MHz Omni Antenna
Man..! I take a day off and the killer antenna deal blows right on by me... Scala Kathrein Antennas are just killer. I use them in Commercial and Amateur Service all the time. I paid over $600 for the last 5 dbi version of this antenna and they take min 4 weeks min to get from Germany (where they are made) through Oregon/WA. Who ever got the antenna better be real happy. By the way, the mentioned band of operation is a special order, most often ordered for the Canadian Public Safety/Commercial Market and semi limited US Amateur purchases. This antenna is one of the few fiberglass models of this type... spec for an honest full 30MHz bandwidth, which actually do what the mfgr promises. Lucky Dog..! cheers, skipp Dennis Bridgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Sale: One (1) NEW Kathrein UHF commercial grade base/repeater station antenna. This omni-directional Kathrein model K 75 16 22 1 has 7dbi gain in the 420-449 MHz range. This is a 50 ohm, 70 watt, fiberglass model. Type N connector at base. $75 plus actual UPS shipping. For more info, check out the following link: http://www.kathrein.de/de/mca/produkte/download/936074.pdf If interested, please contact off list. Dennis Bridgeman Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] master pro receiver to amateur service
We are moving from 146.925- to 145.410- GE MASTR PRO ER41 Receiver So you'll be dropping the RX about 1.5 MHz. Never had a problem with the VHF Mastr Pro RX I took down to 144.84. Unless the Master Pro Receiver is a low vhf split model, you will probably have to change some of the caps in the crystal osc injection chain. Without the cap mod, standard-split Master Pro model receivers really poop out retuning that low in frequency with the factory values in place. How low in frequency will the MASTR Pro go before I loose quality sensitivity, right now, it's about .15 uv with a preamp, and receives excellent. skipp Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 UHF Conversion
Hello Everyone; We an MSR 2000 on 411.8375 tx and 416.8375 Rx that we wish to get on 448.400 TX and 443.400 RX.. I am told that we require a Front End Helical Resonator for the reciever to accomplish this .. Anyone help me out finding this for these frequencies thanks Ed Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] FS: Scom 7k and ACC RC-850
I have two controllers available for sale. Pictures are on request TO SERIOUS PARTIES ONLY. I have upgraded to LINK-COMM controllers throughout our systems... First is a Scom 7k, with voice and phonepatch - has most recent firmware in it (V2.03). This controller has the enclosure and LED front. Includes the manual and I think I have the programming software somewhere. Price on this one is $650. Second is an RC-850. This controller was in service for a long time. It's in good shape (I have pictures, remember) and is fully functional. Firmware is v3.52 (i think) Must have cost a fortune back in the day - has the speech board, phonepatch and computer interface port. Power cord is not included, but it's a standard molex style. No manual either, but it's available online. Price on this controller is $600. Both items are + shipping ($18 USPS Pri mail) and are guaranteed not DOA. Paypal accepted + 3%. Please contact me off the list --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks doug kc5bmj Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS Kenwood TK-840 K3 403-430mhz NIB
probably cold medicine that stuff has side effects :-) M. H. - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS Kenwood TK-840 K3 403-430mhz NIB At 10:12 PM 2/22/2005 -, you wrote: You can have this one delivered to your door (in the US) for $180. ---That HAS to be a typo? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT-10
Brent Thanks for the directions that will get me started on the tune-up. Any idea what the pots are on the control board? Thanks to Skipp also. WA0VUSLarry KemperMuscatine, Iowa Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT-10
R928 is the TOT R910 next to Q907 ans c902 transmitter hang time R924 Repeat audio - Original Message - From: Larry Kemper To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Standard RPT-10 Brent Thanks for the directions that will get me started on the tune-up. Any idea what the pots are on the control board? Thanks to Skipp also. WA0VUSLarry KemperMuscatine, Iowa No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Icom RP-220MHZ 220mhz repeater manuals
At 01:58 PM 2/19/05, you wrote: Hello Group, Im looking for Icom RP-220MHZ 220mhz repeater manuals Im in need of both types Owners Manual and Service Manual. PDF form would due just fine. Thank You, Sal N6SPD There is some high band and UHF info on the Icom page at www.repeater-builder.com - plus a link to the Icom web site that has some manuals for download. If you turn up anything else please consider sending me a copy to add it to the site. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: Kathrein 420-449 MHz Omni Antenna
Yep, One of the good ones.. you can get documentation and advice by calling Scala/Katrein and asking for Mike Bach.. he is a ham and will be very helpful. Be sure to tell him Perryman says hey.. mike K5JMP -Original Message- From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: Kathrein 420-449 MHz Omni Antenna Man..! I take a day off and the killer antenna deal blows right on by me... Scala Kathrein Antennas are just killer. I use them in Commercial and Amateur Service all the time. I paid over $600 for the last 5 dbi version of this antenna and they take min 4 weeks min to get from Germany (where they are made) through Oregon/WA. Who ever got the antenna better be real happy. By the way, the mentioned band of operation is a special order, most often ordered for the Canadian Public Safety/Commercial Market and semi limited US Amateur purchases. This antenna is one of the few fiberglass models of this type... spec for an honest full 30MHz bandwidth, which actually do what the mfgr promises. Lucky Dog..! cheers, skipp Dennis Bridgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Sale: One (1) NEW Kathrein UHF commercial grade base/repeater station antenna. This omni-directional Kathrein model K 75 16 22 1 has 7dbi gain in the 420-449 MHz range. This is a 50 ohm, 70 watt, fiberglass model. Type N connector at base. $75 plus actual UPS shipping. For more info, check out the following link: http://www.kathrein.de/de/mca/produkte/download/936074.pdf If interested, please contact off list. Dennis Bridgeman Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Building a repeater from Motorola VHF portable
At 08:26 AM 2/19/05, you wrote: Would a Motorola PAC RT work? In a word, NO. A PAC-RT is a unit designed to extend a mobile radio to a handheld. Picture a highway patrol officer that is out writing a ticket - the handheld on his belt talks to his patrol car and the PAC-RT there is hooked to his regular mobile radio. Think of a simplex autopatch but with an underdash or trunk mounted mobile radio in place of the phone line. It is a crossband* unit with an output power of 1/10 watt ... some were 1/4 of a watt, but not many. There is no duplex ability at all. * crossband: receiving and transmitting on a different band The patrol car mobile and the officer's HT are on totally different bands. The PAC-RTs were built around an RF package based on a low-end handheld, and models were available in the 150mhz and 450 bands. The basic idea of extending an existing mobile radio into a mobile crossband repeater is still in wide use. For example, here in California our highway patrol mobiles run on hilltop repeaters with a 42-43mhz output and a 39mhz input. The officer's handhelds are on high band. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Packet over voice repeater
Hi Robert Once I operated packet where I could hear it but my HT did not have enough signal for the packet system to hear it. So I setup my mobile to crossband. The HT transmitted on UHF and the mobile transimtted on VHF. In the parameters of the tnc there was an adjustment to delay the audio transmission. I set the audio delay a little higher and it worked great. 73 Brian ka9pmm Robert Purvis wrote: I'm looking for a simple way to "repeat" packets heard on a VHF frequency and retransmit on UHF (and vice versa) I don't want to set it up as a digipeater. Just a simple audio, "what goes in one end goes out the other" audio repeater. It would be a simple task just to hook up two radios as a cross band repeater, but COR-PTT response time will lop off first few bytes of data. I have considered using a digital delay circuit to delay AF until such time as transmitter comes up to full power, and I've also considered a using a pair of TNC's connected to PC comm ports, and delaying read of receive comm port buffer by enough time to allow transmitter to come up to full power. But before I do anything, I wanted to see if anyone else has had any luck with other ideas, before I reinvent the wheel. Thanks in advance ... - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2989 There are 16 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Choosing Commercial UHF Repeater From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Zetron 38Max Question From: "bretb9" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. Comm Spec TP-38 From: "Brent" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. Re: Zetron 38Max Question From: XE2SI [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. Re: Kenwood TRK-820 info? From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6. Re: Re: M2 CAS From: "Fred Seamans" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7. Re: Re: M2 CAS From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8. Remote Receivers and Optimal Use of CTCSS From: "Bob" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9. Re: Remote Receivers and Optimal Use of CTCSS From: "Jim B." [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10. Re: Re: M2 CAS From: "Fred Seamans" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11. Re: Comm Spec TP-38 From: "skipp025" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12. RE: Re: Comm Spec TP-38 From: "Rogers, Ron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13. Re: tpl amps, not so broad-band From: "skipp025" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14. FS Kenwood TK-840 K3 403-430mhz NIB From: "na6df" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15. Re: FS Kenwood TK-840 K3 403-430mhz NIB From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16. Re: Re: Comm Spec TP-38 From: "Brent" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:34:22 -0800 From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Choosing Commercial UHF Repeater Perhaps the best answer is to see what the public-safety agencies use at sites with several dozen UHF repeaters within a few hundred meters. In my area of Central California, the most common repeaters are Motorola Quantar and MTR2000, or Kenwood TKR-840. The brand of the repeater used is driven by the brand of mobile and portable radios being used, since a Kenwood mobile radio will not mute quietly on a Motorola repeater, and (except for the Professional Series radios) vice-versa. While many GE, Vertex, and Icom radios will mute quietly on a Kenwood repeater, that is not a "given." While selecting top-quality equipment is important, there is a great deal of engineering that must go into the design of a repeater at a dense site. Logical placement of antennas is important; you don't want to put your antenna right next to an antenna that has a harmonic or subharmonic relationship to yours. My personal preference is to use large-diameter cavity bandpass filters on both RX and TX, double or triple ferrite circulators on TX, and nothing but double-shielded cable or hardline throughout. The Number One Rule is that nothing but an on-frequency signal can get into my receiver, and nothing but an on-frequency signal leaves my transmitter. In an ideal world, all of the repeaters at a dense site would be designed to follow this Rule. Alas, such is not the case... 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY mbloom0947 wrote: I suspect that many of the participants here have had experience selecting UHF repeaters for high-RF applications such as at broadcasting sites. Which would you buy and why? Yaesu/Vertex, ICOM, Kenwood, or some Motorola type? At present I am using a pair of Moto GM300s with a RICK controller. Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR 2000 UHF Conversion
Hi Ed, Very tempting for me to simply offer to trade you for a standard 450 MHz range receiver. It would be neat to have something down in the sub band range. I'll think about that... The first option would be to trade for a standard range receiver strip where possible. The second option would be to swap out or modify the low range front end, but you might also have to work on the injection chain. Moving a receiver up doesn't seem to be as hard as moving it down in the preselector coil department. Parts from a 450 Mitrek might work, but there would be a bit of work. All things considered, a receiver swap or outright purchase would be your most practical option. The transmitter will possibly tune up with little or no mods. It's a well designed strip, with at least 40 MHz range band width out of the box. Hope that helps cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com va6ef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone; We an MSR 2000 on 411.8375 tx and 416.8375 Rx that we wish to get on 448.400 TX and 443.400 RX.. I am told that we require a Front End Helical Resonator for the reciever to accomplish this .. Anyone help me out finding this for these frequencies thanks Ed Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] FS: Genuine Factory 142 - 150.8 MHz. (TLD-8272B) Micor 2M Receiver - W3KKC
I have for sale a genuine factory Motorola Micor receiver in the 142 - 150.8 Megahertz split. Great for 2 Meter or MARS Repeaters. Complete with Factory Helical Resonator Casting and Coils, (not replica's) Board is the rare 72 model, not a converted high-band unit. Tested and Guaranteed. Meets book spec sensitivity, or better. Tested on 146.280 @ -117.5 dBm on HP 8920 Service Monitor Will include a high-band (K1005) Channel Element (for recrystaling) if desired. Quality Pictures here: http://www.kuggie.com/temp/micor72.html $145.00 plus actual USPS shipping to any of the 50 United States. No packaging or handling fee will be added, you only pay the shipping. PayPal preferred. First response (via email) gets it. Thanks for looking... Kevin Custer W3KKC eBay ID = repeater-builder 100% good feedback rating http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=repeater-builder Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Helical Front end UHF
SPEAKING of front ends... I have a set of helical Resonator from a standard repeater... and it is on 467.2 rx and moving it to the 448.000 Everything else tunes up just fine, so the thought was to add about 1/4 of same material and size wire that it is already wrapped with so the tuning slugs wont be so far down in the cans...(not much height on the cans themselves). and a 1/4 could it me that much that the slugs are now out of the can.. ??? or would I want to try to move the Tap on the coil first any thoughts. thanks Brent - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; Micor List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola-User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:26 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS: Genuine Factory 142 - 150.8 MHz. (TLD-8272B) Micor 2M Receiver - W3KKC I have for sale a genuine factory Motorola Micor receiver in the 142 - 150.8 Megahertz split. Great for 2 Meter or MARS Repeaters. Complete with Factory Helical Resonator Casting and Coils, (not replica's) Board is the rare 72 model, not a converted high-band unit. Tested and Guaranteed. Meets book spec sensitivity, or better. Tested on 146.280 @ -117.5 dBm on HP 8920 Service Monitor Will include a high-band (K1005) Channel Element (for recrystaling) if desired. Quality Pictures here: http://www.kuggie.com/temp/micor72.html $145.00 plus actual USPS shipping to any of the 50 United States. No packaging or handling fee will be added, you only pay the shipping. PayPal preferred. First response (via email) gets it. Thanks for looking... Kevin Custer W3KKC eBay ID = repeater-builder 100% good feedback rating http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=repeater-buil der Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm Spec TP-38
How are you powering the unit? Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:45 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm Spec TP-38 Hello Skipp, I have all known tones turned on and active..(double checked that a few times) It will not decode them or show them at all it will show and decode all below 100.0 with no problem, and it does that like it should with no delay.. but if i try the 100.0 it has to have that tone signal present for at least 3 seconds before it will show or decode it.. it is like a audio amp gone bad or some thing.. but i did swap them around and reset the x2122 in the unit and still no difference.. I must be missing some type of failure somewhere.. Brent - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm Spec TP-38 Does the tone panel even display frequencies above 100Hz, just not decode them? That's a software problem or programing. Most other problems are hardware related. Just running a test sub tone in from an external source will tell you mucho. skipp Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question... Has anybody had a problem with the Communications Specialists TP-38 Tone Panel not decoding PL tones about 100.0hz it decodes from below 100.0 just fine and 100.0 but 100.0 is little slow decoding but above 100.0 it just does nothing.. Thanks Brent -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.2.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.2.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.2.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] FS: Genuine Factory 142 - 150.8 MHz. (TLD-8272B) Micor 2M Receiver - W3KKC
I have for sale a genuine factory Motorola Micor receiver in the 142 - 150.8 Megahertz split. Great for 2 Meter or MARS Repeaters. Complete with Factory Helical Resonator Casting and Coils, (not replica's) Board is the rare 72 model, not a converted high-band unit. Tested and Guaranteed. Meets book spec sensitivity, or better. Tested on 146.280 @ -117.5 dBm on HP 8920 Service Monitor Will include a high-band (K1005) Channel Element (for recrystaling) if desired. Quality Pictures here: http://www.kuggie.com/temp/micor72.html $145.00 plus actual USPS shipping to any of the 50 United States. No packaging or handling fee will be added, you only pay the shipping. PayPal preferred. First response (via email) gets it. Thanks for looking... Kevin Custer W3KKC eBay ID = repeater-builder 100% good feedback rating http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=repeater-builder Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
See Inserts, GE MASTR PRO ER41 Receiver Should not have a problem at all with the receiver. Vocom Amp, tuned for 146.925 You might have to play with the amp, but it should also tune up just fine. Use a good dummy load and minimal power to tune. and then to top if off, I just got the phasing harness for the DB224 and it was cut right for 146.925. The DB-224 will operate over a 10 MHz window. Most DB-224's are good from 140-150 MHz with the correct harness. My main transmitter is the (no arguements please), Maggorie HiPro transmitter exiting 2 watts to the vocom amp. Follow the tuning procedure and all should be ok. TX RX Duplexers. Not a problem if they are the ones for the amateur band. If you have the proper equipment it should take about 30 minutes to retune. If the duplexer was from the 150-160 band them you may have some problems. Give TX/RX a call and find out what they charge to retune. Could save you time and future problems. Other sad part is, the user that was getting into their system was not getting into the main receiver, but rather a remote site. I wonder how tight his receiver really is, and is it a synthesized radio, or something of quality. Mathew Sounds like HE has a receiver problem or your user may have a transmitter problem. In either case I would object to moving until he can prove that HIS receiver is not the cause of the problem. I would also check to see where his receiver is in reference to the transmitter. I find it hard to believe that YOU are required to move without first finding out where the problem is. This sounds very unfair. If the coordinator had done his job correctly he would not have placed two repeaters in a area where the possibility of interference could happen. I would fight this as far as I could, and request the coordinator pay for your move. Charles Miller WD5EEH Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 UHF Conversion
Ed, If you are moving that much you are going to need more than a RX front end. The TX might be a little problem, but should make it. 30-40 MHz. 20 MHz is the window from the factory for the RX. You are moving 30+. Charles Miller WD5EEH - Original Message - From: va6ef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:56 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 UHF Conversion Hello Everyone; We an MSR 2000 on 411.8375 tx and 416.8375 Rx that we wish to get on 448.400 TX and 443.400 RX.. I am told that we require a Front End Helical Resonator for the reciever to accomplish this .. Anyone help me out finding this for these frequencies thanks Ed Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
Matthew - I was looking at the Indianna Repeater council page and it only shows the call you mention on 146.910 - not .925 - Is it possible the coordinators messed up and he is on the wrong freq? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Helical Front end UHF
We need a little more information on the repeater you have, such as the model number and the rough dimensions of the coils and the cavity. I have converted a Yaseu FTC-4610 from 474 to 443MHz (With .32uV sensitivity) by adding 1/2 of a turn to the top of the coils, perhaps the same can be accomplished here. Also you can try replacing the slugs with a different material such as Brass or Aluminum to shift the resonance, I have used brass screws on a VHF micor with good but not perfect results. On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:55:42 -0600, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPEAKING of front ends... I have a set of helical Resonator from a standard repeater... and it is on 467.2 rx and moving it to the 448.000 Everything else tunes up just fine, so the thought was to add about 1/4 of same material and size wire that it is already wrapped with so the tuning slugs wont be so far down in the cans...(not much height on the cans themselves). and a 1/4 could it me that much that the slugs are now out of the can.. ??? or would I want to try to move the Tap on the coil first any thoughts. thanks Brent Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm Spec TP-38
Reason I ask I have seen them act up when powered by the same power supply as the repeater and it did not quite have the current for the job. I would test it on the bench with an audio generator and O scope. I am thinking you have something ringing in the audio/pl chain. Also drive levels (audio could be problem) TP-38's can be quite old. what is the age and history of the unit? when did it work correctly last? Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm Spec TP-38 fully regulated 12vdc power supply ! - Original Message - From: Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm Spec TP-38 How are you powering the unit? Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message- From: Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:45 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm Spec TP-38 Hello Skipp, I have all known tones turned on and active..(double checked that a few times) It will not decode them or show them at all it will show and decode all below 100.0 with no problem, and it does that like it should with no delay.. but if i try the 100.0 it has to have that tone signal present for at least 3 seconds before it will show or decode it.. it is like a audio amp gone bad or some thing.. but i did swap them around and reset the x2122 in the unit and still no difference.. I must be missing some type of failure somewhere.. Brent - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm Spec TP-38 Does the tone panel even display frequencies above 100Hz, just not decode them? That's a software problem or programing. Most other problems are hardware related. Just running a test sub tone in from an external source will tell you mucho. skipp Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question... Has anybody had a problem with the Communications Specialists TP-38 Tone Panel not decoding PL tones about 100.0hz it decodes from below 100.0 just fine and 100.0 but 100.0 is little slow decoding but above 100.0 it just does nothing.. Thanks Brent -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.2.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.2.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.2.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Helical Front end UHF
the front end is from a standard RPT-21 there is approx 4 complete turns of wire the size of a 1n4001 diode lead.. and well matter of fact the same material and it has aluminum slugs - Original Message - From: DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Helical Front end UHF We need a little more information on the repeater you have, such as the model number and the rough dimensions of the coils and the cavity. I have converted a Yaseu FTC-4610 from 474 to 443MHz (With .32uV sensitivity) by adding 1/2 of a turn to the top of the coils, perhaps the same can be accomplished here. Also you can try replacing the slugs with a different material such as Brass or Aluminum to shift the resonance, I have used brass screws on a VHF micor with good but not perfect results. On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:55:42 -0600, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPEAKING of front ends... I have a set of helical Resonator from a standard repeater... and it is on 467.2 rx and moving it to the 448.000 Everything else tunes up just fine, so the thought was to add about 1/4 of same material and size wire that it is already wrapped with so the tuning slugs wont be so far down in the cans...(not much height on the cans themselves). and a 1/4 could it me that much that the slugs are now out of the can.. ??? or would I want to try to move the Tap on the coil first any thoughts. thanks Brent Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 UHF Conversion
Ed, If you are moving that much you are going to need more than a RX front end. You will need to change several caps and other parts to get the TX to move that far. 10 MHz is the window from the factory. You are moving 30+. Charles Miller WD5EEH - Original Message - From: va6ef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:56 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 UHF Conversion Hello Everyone; We an MSR 2000 on 411.8375 tx and 416.8375 Rx that we wish to get on 448.400 TX and 443.400 RX.. I am told that we require a Front End Helical Resonator for the reciever to accomplish this .. Anyone help me out finding this for these frequencies thanks Ed Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
