Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Very interesting subject. People don't seem to be concerned about what kind of energy they are receiving from electric power company suppliers. I've asked previously for information about what people get in their homes and repeater sites with only one response telling me taps are available to solve a high or low problem. Do phase shift capacitors have an effect on our home our test equipment, repeaters? The AC specs here are 115.2 - 124.8. A calibrated NBS Fluke 77 reads consistently on the high end, and frequently up as high as 128. The power company engineer says they can do nothing about it, that taps do not exist anywhere in the system to lower the line voltage. Only phase shift capacitors. Our older test equipment designed around a 115 volt line plus AC motors, power transformers can have a problem with saturation. On a room to room/ garage/ shop investigation how many transformers, motors are in your dweling? Those big honker 30 amp or higher power supplies on repeaters going up in smoke. What's in your walletI mean your electric service line? GaryK2UQ In a message dated 2/9/2009 7:30:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, wb2...@roadrunner.com writes: Depends. Some customers are metered for reactive demand. It would matter then. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: _Thomas Oliver_ (mailto:tsoli...@tir.com) To: _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_ (mailto:repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:43 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor Question for any electrical engineers out there. Are the meters on the side of buildings metering real power or apparent power? Is power factor correction worth doing if the power company is not dinging the customer for low power factor? This article _http://powerelectrohttp://pohttp://powerelechttp://powerehttp://powehttp://pohtt_ (http://powerelectronics.com/power_management/motor_power_management/705PET23.pdf) talks about residential power factor correction and my conclusion (from this article) is the savings would never be recouped. Second conclusion is the only benefit with correction is the wires between the source and load don't heat up as much. What about the wires in the motor or transformer? do they also heat less? I would think so. Third conclusion is by correcting power factor you are helping the utility company more than yourself because these phase differences standing waves exist all the way back to the power generation source therefore the utility lines have more loss due to their greater length than the customers building wiring has. The reason I am researching this is a customer of mine has roughly 50 hp of total motors in his shop and wanted to know if he could save 30% on his electric bill like some salesman of power factor correction black boxes told him he could. I realize I am going to have to look at his energy bill to see if there is a charge for low power factor and maybe call the utility company to see if he will get a lower rate if he adds PFC devices tom (\__/) ... (='.'=) ()_() **Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi0003)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] LTR Question
Try Radio Shack. Also QST advertisements have a couple companies making that stuff. Gary K2UQ In a message dated 9/6/2008 11:15:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sept 6 - 2008 To: All LTR Experts We are looking for some form of LTR decoder device. We would like to program a specific LTR ID and have an output when this ID is received. For example 01-101 would produce a switch closure when decoded. this has to be at the controller level not a mobile unsquelching. For some reason I draw a blank whe thinking about a source. Zetron says they don't have it ( how about that ? ) Best regards from the Windy City Ed Com/Rad Inc **Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wits End -- Desense
Many years ago I experienced a defective section of coax that would change impedance when physically moved. Found out after slitting open about 12 inches of outer shield the dialectic was dried out and cracked from old age. When moved it would form air gaps between the center conductor and the inside of the outer shield hence changing the impedance of the coax. The dielectric looked like many thin insulated washers all stacked up on the center conductor. Bet something that would create some desense. I'd replace that coax from the duplexer to the RX and inside the Rx to first stage. Another problem was solved when it was discovered the center pin of a N connector was recessed too much when the tech fabricated the cable, forming a very small air gap capacitor between the male/female center conductor. Gary K2UQ In a message dated 9/3/2008 11:43:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First thing is to replace the suspect cable rather than trusting the home-made shielding that was added. I also wonder if the transmitter is going spurious. Was that checked and ruled out? I don't recall. Chuck WB2EDV John Transue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't understand it, but yesterday afternoon the repeater seemed to revert to a bad case of desense. Today I will try to determine why this happened. Such is life! JohnT **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] ARCC
ARCC P.O. Box 244 Plumsteadville, Pa 18949 Phone: 215 766-7334 Phone 215 646-5892 Fax 215 646-6798 The above should get you in contact with someone. 73, Gary K2UQ In a message dated 7/17/2008 6:14:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if ARCC is still functional? Emails remain unanswered (to N3LAW the President) and no response. I see by their site they have had no meeting since early March of this year. Anyone have any info? Thanks! **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
[Repeater-Builder] High AC Line
Apologize for being off topic but a safety question. Do you people monitor your AC line at your home, business,shop etc? I've been having a problem in central NJ with high line around 1:00 am. Our spec is 115.2 - 124.8. Around 1 AM I run 127.0, 126.4 with a daily average around 124 during the rest of the day. As we all know many electronic products are really not off when we hit the off button. Although today's electronics are designed for higher AC line voltages. I've already experienced one work bench light ballast fire. Plus a large number of smoked electronic test equipment. I continually see phase shift capacitors being switched in and out on my line monitor or is it bad grounds? The volt readings are done with a Fluke 77 that has been calibration checked and certified correct. Would someone educate me on proper power utilities. Please contact me off R-B unless others feel they would like to know also. Again I apologize burning up air time. Gary K2UQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Who's fixing Service Monitors these days?
Kurt did a great job on my IFR 1200. I am totally satisfied with his abilities and willingness to help. Gary K2UQ In a message dated 6/14/2008 3:03:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ken did a nice rehab on my IFR500. _http://www.kgelectrhttp://wwwhttp://www_ (http://www.kgelectronics.com/about.html) Steve NU5D ka9qjg wrote: I really had Great Service from Bob at _http://www.cardinalhttp://ww_ (http://www.cardinalelec.com/) Fortunately it was only a Couple hour drive to drop it off and pick it up , This is where the Pros go for the FCC And Military Certification . Good Luck Don KA9QJG -- /Subscribe to dstar_digital/ Powered by groups.yahoo.Powe_http://groups.http://grohttp://grouphttp://g_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/) **Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Old GE, RCA and Motorola Tube Radios
Tis a finger burn to remember for a long time can be helped immediately by
putting the boo boo finger (no, not there) but along the area of the nose, ear,
the places that excrete your own human oils placed on the burn.. Ever grab
a soldering iron on the wrong end? Whew does that hurt. The personal oils
of your skin are a natural and rapid reliever and healer of the pain.
Learned that from an old Ma Bell stepper switch guy.
Gary K2UQ
In a message dated 5/24/2008 5:06:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone who has or had a tube type GE, RCA or Motorola Radio
probably learned the hard way that one can't fudge the time
required for the tubes to cool down... before you try and
pull them out of the chassis.
Tis a finger burn you will remember for a very long time.
cheers,
s.
Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I still have a bunch of brand new tubes for Mastr Pro Stuff.
tom n8ies
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From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: 5/23/2008 9:15:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE
Master Pro
Most of my repeaters are built from Mastr Pro on 6 meters, 2
meters, UHF.
They are very good, the receivers are good and the transmitters
are good
except for the early UHF (with the tube tripler).
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: mice and the trusty old GE Master Pro
Re: mice and the GE Master Pro
What you didn't say was how the GE Master Pro in most
typical cases probably kept working as normal.
Hard as heck to kill a GE Master Pro I'd still have a number
of them in service except I have to pay the site power bill and
those tx strip tubes love to stay warm 24/7.
The Master Pro Receivers are still very much killer good for
current repeater projects. The front ends are very stout and
the design is a well known solid peformer.
I hate to see the receivers go in the dumpster...
cheers,
skipp
The Later Mastr Pro GE series base stations used a slanted heat
sink for the 12.6 and 10 V pass regulators. The chassis formed
the back, and there was a cover on the front making a conduit for
forced air from the 4 inch muffin fan. Poor field mouse got into
the slanted heat sink, lost his grip, and went head first into
the muffin fan - - did not decapitate but did trap him there
and stall the fan - found the mummified remains some time later -
then there are stories of a micor repeater loosing the 10 v
return in the exciter - due to mouse urine destroying the
trace on the PCB and various stories of stench. Best
Memorial Day wishes to all, 73, Steve NU5D
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Static on grounded feed line system.
To WN3A..I'd like to tune in to this interesting conversation. What frequency stub are you referring to? Please be a little more specific on which side of DC ground arrestor. Thanks, Gary K2UQ **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15ncid=aolhom000301)
[Repeater-Builder] Ham Radio Communication in New Jersey
Might be off topic. If so, I apologize..To all hams communicating while mobile in New Jersey, please note the new Bill preventing cell phone (electronic communications devices) goes into effect tomorrow March 1,2008. Ham radio is not effected by this Legislative action. So you can continue to communicate on Ham Radio but not your cell phone. It is recommended you print out a copy of the Bill and keep it near your vehicle ham gear. It can be found at: _http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/legis/2007c198_law.pdf_ (http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/legis/2007c198_law.pdf) ... If stopped, In a respectful manner, show the police officer a copy of the Bill stating the Ham Radio exemption along with a copy of your Ham license. No points are involved but a copy of the law may prevent a $100 - $250 fine. I'd rather tell it to the cop instead of the judge. Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR FM/AM 1200S
If I may ride on Mr Buffington's shirt tail (track/gen opt 12) I'm looking for a IFR service monitor part - CRT p/n 95AB31 if anyone has one available. Thanks, Gary K2UQ **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565)
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystal source Kendicomm Mark 3 Mark 4
Try...Steve at 978-372-3442 for information on Kendecom, Inc. and Micro Control Specialties. Located in Groveland, Mass. He does some of the Mark 4 CR Repeater and Mark 4C Controller stuff. Also ask ICM if they have information on Kendecom. 73, Gary K2UQ ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple Emails
Yes, many duplicates on the Small Coil slug subject. But not as bad as the Proper Grammar urinating contest a couple days ago. Good grief, some children just don't play well with others. K2UQ said that. smile Gary ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC Test/Tower fall
Take a look at same site for non-entertainment video clip of the guy falling off the top of a huge tower to his death. That should be a refresher for some people to be extra careful when climbing towers. Gary K2UQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale GE MVP Repeater
Information for AP-50 problem has been solved. Thank you Gary K2UQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale GE MVP Repeater
Got a 404 Error on _http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ap-50.html_ (http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ap-50.html) . Would like to read that article. Getting ready to install AP-50 into Micor mobile converted to repeater. Tnx, Gary K2UQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II Station
To: W4XE.I totally agree with Jim KA2AJH.an excellent informative GE Mastr II site. Wish I knew you were around a couple years ago. Great job. Gary K2UQ
[Repeater-Builder] Micor base sensitivity
An out of state friend has a 2 meter Micor base repeater (Compra-station?) that was recently aligned by a 2 way shop. When he put the repeater back on the air the receiver operation is now about half of what it was prior to its recent alignment. He said the receiver works DFQ about halfway out then will cease receiving. I read awhile back someone experiencing a drastic drop in Rx performance such as this. He knows the receiver is hearing the mobile stations well enough but will not repeat, as if the squelch control is maxed out or not correct PL injection. Will someone please direct me to this R-B subject file or suggest a solution for my friend. Thanks, Gary K2UQ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for RF RCA connectors
Shortening Phono plug center pinreal easy. Findappropriate sizedrill bit that fits into center pin of phono plug. Mount drill bit horizontally in your bench vise. Adjust phono plug on drill bit until your happy with center pin length. Use a jewelers sawto cut unwanted center pin length off. Do not cut drill bit. Only use it as a length guide and support. Smooth and bevel new edge with a real fine file. Presto ! Do a bunch of them in one sitting then put them in a special bag labeled phono plug shorty's. Then do as I do, misplace the bag, never to be found again. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] my we are a bunch of trouble makers here at DaytonQRZ
Nate and Hunter...Your comment Gee, wonder why a lot of cars with lots of antennas and no ham radio license plates? Why so dumb and so-backwards? Consider thisMy car with ham call letter license plates was stolen. ThruQRZ.comas an example, the thief can figure out where I live and get a good idea of my other interests just by looking inside the vehicle and truck. They had master keys for the door and ignition so opening the trunk would not be a problem. He now knows where he can get lots more goodies for free. And with Pretrial Intervention and Plea bargaining he knows he will not be duffely punished if caught. So put your ham gear inside your car with your tools, other hobby interests and your call letter license plates on the bumpers and announce to the world "here is a sample, stop by my house for more free stuff." Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Mobile antenna installation help/fatigued metal
Thank you to all who provided great solutions onsolving tearing effectfrom mobile mountson thin autobody metal vehicles.It all may now be moot because,We all should be aware of legislation being proposed in many states such as "Driving While Distracted" or "Inattentive Driving" laws. These new laws will curtail mobile radio operations.CT, NY, NJ and DC already have laws prohibiting people talking on cell phones while driving. A proposal in NJ while not yet introduced for voting but being formulated: New Jersey clarifies that a distracted driver may be charged with reckless, careless or unsafe driving when so warranted, a law enforcement officer may charge a person with a violation if that person, while operating a motor vehicle, engages in distracting behavior including, but not limited to, the use of communications technology such as wireless telephones, pagers, facsimile machines, locator devices, AM/FM radios, compact disc players, audio cassette players, video players, citizens band radios, and dispatch radios; engaging in personal grooming; consuming food or beverages; reading; or tending to unsecured pets. So heads up, be careful, keepone ear to your state capitol and the other to the mobile rig while drivingunder those low hanging tree branches. Soon we may not need mobile antennas. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile antenna installation help/fatigued metal
Excluded from the subject law while in the actual performance of their official duties: a law enforcement officer; a member of a paid, part-paid or volunteer fire department or company; or an operator of an authorized emergency vehicle. I would be careful about trying to do a citizens arrest on a law enforcement officer. You may pay for that one dearly.Telling a politician what to dois like talking to a stone who knows how you should live. My wife is a professional lobbyist and works at the State House so she knows what is going on. Contacting ARRL produced zero results. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anetenna Help
Just about any 5/8 wave antenna mounted on top of a Ford pickup truck. The roof metal is so thin that frequent flexing from antenna sway, wind resistance, low tree branch contact can cause metal fatigue on thecab roof. The antenna NMO mount was installeddirectly above the cab interior light. Nice install but the metal finally cracked about 1/2 inchcircumference further outfrom the outer edge of the NMO mount. The singing problem was resolved by wrapping thin fishing line around the full antenna length at about 1 turn per 1 1/2 inches for its full length. The thinner the whip antenna the higher the audio frequency.Observe automobile antennas and you will see many factory manufactured AM/FM antennas wrapped as mentioned above. Go out and wiggle your mobile antenna. Look at the automobile metal near the base. Watch it flex. The longer the antenna the more flexing. I solved the problem by relocating the antenna using a homemade bracket mounted between the front fender and hoodnearcorner of windshield. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anetenna Help
To: KB1CHU..Don't sell that little thru the glass dual bander antenna from Radio Shack short. I have one mounted on the tinted glass side window of my suburban and it is a dandy little antenna. I tuned mine for a 2 meter frequency, have no desire to use it on 440 mhzandthe R/S antserves me quite well. If for some reason it disappeared, I would replace it with another exact model. For those who like to bang tree limbs, bend the thin metal of their automobiles and listen to the singing breezes while driving, that's great but for a little powerhouse that does a darn nice job, that thru the glass R/S antenna is right up there with the big boys. Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: DB-228
In a message dated 2/15/2006 5:42:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/cracking.html Mike, WA6ILQ. Thank you for the fine explanation on tower mounting. When a ham is involved in a commercial siteantenna installsmust be commercial specifications.Sometimes one has no choice where the ham antenna will be mounted. As far as the DB223 antenna, this thing is so massive that I would never install any part of it above the tower. I am just trying to get my ducks in a row so when the telephone rings at 7:00 pm and its the tower owner saying "I have a tower crew coming tomorrow morning", if your ready we can do your antenna also. Nice article on arcing and sparking. Have that problem too at another site.As you knowmany tower sites only bonded and insured professional tower climbers are allowed to climb and work on the tower. Gary K2UQ p.s. just heard AC0Y call in local repeater in E Pa. via Echolink. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: DB-228
I also have a DB-228-E. This was the info I was looking for.A problem is the mounting brackets. If anyone has suggestions on mounting thishonker antennaproperly, please let me know. Also would like to mount a 21 foot2 meter Stationmaster about 2 or 3 feet away from tower top leg. Anyone recommend proper brackets for this? Thank you, Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cheap Tunnel Heatsink
In a message dated 2/11/2006 3:10:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.ve3tjd.com/pictures/tech%20stuff/ What a perfect heatsink for that variable power supply load that was bouncing around on R-B about a year or two ago. You could vary the Amp Load on your power supply using a variable pot control. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cheap Tunnel Heatsink
Re variable power supply load. Info should be in archives section. I do have a hand drawn schematic somewhere in one of mypaper piles. Will take a look. Maybe someone can direct Brett to a better source for the schematic. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re Mic hangup clip installation
Velcro, foam tapeand any type of glue just don't do it. Come summertime the heat build makes the glue soft and the weight from the mic pulls the clip away from the plastic dashboard. Outgassing of the plastic dashboard and glue is a problem also. My solution is the get your new mic clip youbought from the local truck stop and make up a thin metal plate. Look for a partition between two items on the dashboard and slightly pry it apart, jam the end of the little metal plate (which should have a slight curve on the opposite end from the mic clip)between thedashboard partition. Beenmounting mobile mic clipsthis wayfor years and never have a problem. Look for a horizontal partition slot. The fabricated thin plate should look like a "J" when viewed from the edge. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mountain Lion time!
Skipp, Congratulations on the mountain lion sighting. Beautiful. Be careful you don't turn into lunch. Now you know why the Pot Growers have guns. You asked what's in my pocket? The answer is our new governor Jon Corzine's hand. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator question
Re Block heatersthank you all for the suggestions. What a great repeater group. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] STATION MASTER WHERE TO BUY
Be careful when buying from Tessco or anyone else for that matter. Make sure you check it out prior to putting it on the tower. I bought a newStationmaster for 2 meters about 2 years ago from them and didn't have time to check it out prior to installation. It resonates at 136 mhz. they said to send it back. The cost of rehiring the tower guys wouldhave cleaned that account out. So check it before it goes up. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Azden PCS-4000
The Back Up battery for the Azden PCS-4000 is a sealed Ni-Cd 50 mAh 3.6 volt. When replacing same, a 'Method of initial charge procedure' is required. I do have the PCS-4000 manual and would be happy to send the instructions to you via snail mail or FAX the information to youif you provide me with a FAX number. I cannot find an actual part number of the actual battery but any Ni-Cd of suggested rating and physical size should do the job. Just adhere to the needed start-up instructions. Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Azden PCS-4000
Did you see my posting dated 1/22/2006 time 11:22:55 AM EST about the Azden PCS-4000 battery? E-mail me direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put Azden PCS-4000 in Subject column so I don't dump it. I have info that will help you. Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator question
In a message dated 1/15/2006 11:25:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.etipinc.com/universal.asp?cat=maint Dale...N8SAC...Thanks for the info on equipment heaters from etipinc. Your suggestion is right on target. Should work great on drinking water with GFI, isolation xmfr and thermo switch for wifes outdoor livestock. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator question
My Chevy 454 Suburban has engine block heaters. Try your GM dealer. Also see if your engine can take 5w30 synthetic such as Mobile One. JC Whitney may have an oil dip stick heater to serve your needs. Trane home air conditioner pumps have a built in heater to keep oil at certain viscosity. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tower installs
Al and all, Agreed drilling a hole in the base at the high stress point is not the best idea But, you must remember that a towerwill remain there for many years. I have tried the porous pea gravel method and after a few years the porous effect gets clogged up like the fuel filter on an automobile. Bad part of it you have no knowledgetheclogging process is happening untilthe next freeze, then its too late. Now you have a major crack at the worst possible place. It makes me very nervous to drill anything like that at that location. Maybe a 1/16 hole wouldbe more appropriate. On a TRI (120 deg) legged tubular tower I drilled the holes on the inside ofeach leg. I have never had a tower come down either in my 50 years of tower installs. Years ago I drove to Toledo, On arrivingand upon exiting my car in a heavy wind storm I observed a 40 foot tower with a honker TV antenna going horizontal. That was impressive. Concrete was atgrass level instead of at the bottom of the hole where it shouldhave been. Building codes and township variances. Get one if you require one.Don't sneak it up because your present neighbors say they don't care what you do. 20 years down the road your nice neighbor will move or die, or whatever. The new home owner may have a totally different opinion of your tower. I was talked into obtaining a building variance for my tower by an old ham friend. Glad I did. Because years later the woods turned into houses and the Civic Associationpresented a petition to the township about my'ugly'tower. They weretold to leave me alone, its long time ago approved and accepted. I f you need engineering help get it. Find a statelicensed PE or someone who is qualified. Do your homework. NEVER trust a weld and remember tubular towers rust from the inside out. Remember that when you climb an old tower. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Additional suggestion on Tower Installation
Be aware that when a tower is connected to a house for support it willcause noise created by wind, vibration, creaking, moaning, grinding, etc. to be transmitted throughout the house. This can keep the wife and maybe you upset while trying to sleep to the point that you wish you didn't install it that way. Depending on tower section installation, those who live in areas where it can freeze, you may consider drilling a 1/8 inch hole aprox 1/2 inch above earth level. You will get condensation build up over time. Maybe not in AZ but elsewhere other installers may consider it. If it cracks due to frost freeze you will have a major problem. Lastly, don't do as a newbie tower installer I know did. He installed the tower upside down. Yes, when it rained the water flowed down the tower legs and right into the lower sections. If you bury bottom section in dirt, even galvanized metal will over time rust right at grass level. Oxygen along with acids in the soil will act on galvanizing atgrass level.That's why towers should have a coating of heavy tar or rubberized paint to protect the legs. Don't forget the ground rod. Gary Katona K2UQ age 67 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer tuning with Return Loss Bridge
Skipp.Thank you for the info on duplexer tuningwith RF power change. Interesting. Maybe expansion of the actual can due to heat vs Invar rods? Gary YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning info from Eagle
Eric/Skipp/Jeff and other guru's.Thank you for the great information and suggestions on duplexer tuning. I downloaded 'Duplexer Tuning Using the EAGLE Return Loss Bridge' instruction sheet and find it very informative. Maybe this old dog can learn some new tricks.Nice Repeater-Builder site - good group. Seasons Greetings to all. Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer tuning with Return Loss Bridge
Great idea (I hope) using a dual RF directional coupler as a Return Loss Bridge. We have a Bird dual coupler. Just hook up two Bird 43 slugs and meters and wham bam, tune away on low power of course. Or maybe some people have a dual needle wattmeter which would work well also? Cool beans. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for data on old heliax/Jeff
Jeff, I have information on Cablewave Systems FXA 14-50 1/4 (810951-002). Foamflex copper center, low loss cellular polyethylene foam dielectric and smooth wall aluminum outer conductor. Cablesize: 1/4 inch Imp 50 ohm velocity of Propagation percent 81 Max. Freq 90% fco Ghz 19.2 etc., etc. Aprotective black outer jacket will have a "J" suffix (FXA 38-50J) If this is what you want, give me your FAX number and I will send it to you. My old Prodelin and Phelps Dodge/Cel Wave catalogs listwhat you wantbut no velocity factor given. I am in Trenton, NJ and its payback timethank you for the two Icom's you left for me on my repeater a couple years ago. Hope this helps. Gary Katona K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for data on old heliax
Jeff, I FAXed you the Cablewave Systems data sheet on the 1/4 inch hardline earlier this evening. Hope you received it and it's what your looking for. I did talk to my friend in Connecticut this evening and he said Cablewave Systems is now called Radio Frequency Systems (RFS) and relocated to Meriden, Ct. Theywere a ham friendly and he thinks they still are. Hope this helps. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ultimate test coax cables
Joe, I've melted PL259 connectors on 20 meters but never seen one glow because of the spring becoming so hot. Bet it took the temper and tension out of that spring. We had a Radio Shack store in town catch on fire last year.Someone placed some combustible liquid next to a space heater and it burned 5 adjacent stores out in the strip mall before the fire was contained. Another thing people should be aware of is the MOV's in low quality plastic multi AC strip outlets. These cheap MOV's sometimesshort out and become very hot, resulting in melting the plastic multi outlet, then burning your house down. I hear this type of problem happens more than people realize. MOV's are good, they do a decent job and serve a useful purpose. But don't rely on a 30 cent item to protect everything in your home. Purchase a quality large MOV capable of handling a good amount of joules from an electrical outlet supplier. Install it on your service breaker panel box. It will protect your whole house. Check with your local electrical code prior to doing this. Many people are unawaresome lightning shots inter homes via the telephone line, not the AC line. MOV's are available for them also. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ultimate test coax cables
While the discussion is about proper and quality cable, don't forget to keep away from PL 259 style Tee connectors sold by Radio Shack. They have a little coil spring that puts pressure on the center conductor going between both SO 239 ends. This little springis the center connectionand it also is a RF coil and acts as an inductor that will play havoc on 440 MHz area and above frequencies. I cut one in half with a hacksaw and the spring on center conductor isquite obvious. Use only quality connectors. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Air Variable Capacitors for DB4060
For the capacitors..try Nebraska Sales. They advertise in QST. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Phoenix Radios as Links/solderless pins
A way of crimping solderless lugs, pins on connectors, etc. when your out in the field and don't have the correct crimpers. Instead of using the needlenose pliers above the fulcrum point, use the areajust below the fulcrum point. A tremendous amount of pressure can be achieved when using the area just below the fulcrum point. So much that you must be careful you don't totally flatten or smash the connector. It won't be a mil spec crimp, but it just may get you a useable connection. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] carrier drop pulse
Here is one for you guru's and BMOC problem solvers. Must admit there are a lot of good ones in this group. A 2 meter repeater 15 miles away using a Mastr2 PLL exciter emits a carrier drop pulse of about500 ms in duration on a frequency 225 khz down from the repeaters xmit freq. Unfortunately this pulse is on the output of another repeater I continuously monitor. The repeater trustee is very knowledgeable and cooperative and is attempting to solve this problem. He did say the PLL is not quite 5 volts but otherwise seems to work well.Thedrop pulse on CORis definitely coming from the exciter and can be observed on a SA with PA installed and removed.It was replaced with another exciter and the secondexciter is doing exactly the same thing. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] carrier drop pulse
Thank you both for the good suggestions. It isn't my repeater. I believe its a base station. Gary YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] 6 meter duplexer construction
Maybe find an old DB 4048 and replace the 5 inch aluminum tubing.An area farmermight have a couple lengths of damaged 5 inch irrigation tubing laying around. Hack off somerequired lengths.You have the top and bottom caps from the DB 4048. Lengthen the pick up loops. Just a thought. Gary K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] db-4062 duplexer
KA9FER DB4062 duplexer to change band segments. I have loop information you need to modify or replace the loops. Its a little complicated (for me anyway). If you give me a FAX number or snail mail info I can send the information to you. It won't look pretty or clear because is will be a fax or Xerox of a fax. Mine was a model C that was changed to model B and alignment went very well. It was not necessary to change cable lengths. You must be careful about the null tuning capacitors. They are very fragile plus expensive and easily broken. They are also available. Note the low side loops are not the same length as the high side so don't switch them around.I am in Trenton, NJ and my phone number is 609 586-7443. The info I have is from Decibel Products, a division of Allen Telecom Inc. Dallas, Texas. Gary Katona K2UQ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR 1200/A Service Monitor
To all who may be interested. Isoon maybe listingon R-P in the next couple days prior to E-Bay a mint condition IFR FM/AM-1600S. Calibration 6 months ago. A good friend owns it, he offered it to me because its too hard to drive.(I agree). I alreadypossess an IFR 1500. Neither have a scratch, nor soiled in anyway.Both lookbrand new out of the box. I have a decision to make which one to sell and for how much. Any suggestions? Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR 1200/A Service Monitor
Wow.what a bargain. I don't think either of you two guys could sleep at nights if you paid $200 for either.Remember, god will get ya. I thought suggestions would be in line of : the 1500 is easier to use, etc. Man you guys are tough. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] base station power supply/relay problem
Lawdog14 with the sticky relay switching over to or from battery backup. This is going to sound crazy but you should try it before you laugh. Isolved many a relay problem by sticking a thin piece of paper between the soft iron core of the coil and the clapper of the relay. Sometimesthe soft iron core becomes slightly magnetized and won't pull in or release the clapper properly. A thin piece of paper covering the iron core of the coil will change the magnetic flux and allow the relay to operate as it should. Irepaired about 500 Apple Laserwriter II laser printers with this method, by inserting an Avery sticky label attached to the soft iron coil core,Theprinterswere intermittently indexing on thewrongline when printing. Bad news when printing on forms. Second thing to try is tomake sure a fine piece of metal such as a file shaving is notmagnetized on the soft iron core When the coil is energized the metal flake changes position and prevents proper control of the moveable clapper plate. Please no boos from the BMOC. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack electronic parts availability
Some people were talking about not being able to purchase parts from Radio Shack. RS a couple years ago was operating a commercial/industrial mail order service very much like Digiti Key etc. I have an RS Industrial catalog #C899 and it offers quite a nice selection of components. I have not ordered within the last year so possibly things have changed, not sure but if you don't call CQ no one knows to answer you. Here are some phone numbers and info you might try. I believe its in the Dallas area. 1-800-291-6515Commercial Order Faxline 1-800-813-0087Consumer Order Faxline 1-800-442-7221Commercial Order Hotline (Com Sale Reps) 1-800-THE SHACKConsumer Order Hotline E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps... Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] mixing problem?
Bearcat scanners are notorious transmitters. Try listening on 136.83 and 158.43 for a carrieronyour repeater receiver 147.63. Try other combinations of plus or minus the scanner IF freq of 10.8 mhz. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New antenna install ? Any tips ??
It it really true long lasting antenna installs are onlyachieved when the weather is so cold the Scotch 33 cracks as your wrapping the connector? Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Help with VHF PA failure
Lee - N3APP and Eric WB6FLY..and all others who made suggestions. Thank you all. Re Mastr II 100 watt power amp has one of the parallel output transistors defective. To those who don't realize, the cold one is the defective one. If it ain't smokin, its loafin. The suggestion to replace the whole board is a good one. I am sure weall have been bit on the butt cutting costs or corners. Thanks again and what a great group. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help with VHF PA failure
Tom, Good point about the possibility of a hairline crack ina solder joint. Have seen that before also. Unfortunately I have been all over the PA section with high wattage iron. Thank you for your comments. 73, Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr@ Base 2 mtr pwr amp failure need help
Eric and Lee, Re VHF amp failure. Thank you both for your fine suggestions. Almost fixed. The junction between the PA and output filter board was broken. This was repaired. The Astron bench supply does crowbar at 80 RF watts outputat 19 amps, (too high)Running the RF amp at 70 watts produces one hot and one cold output transistor. All high power joints were resoldered, hoping it was an expansion crack. Zipp. PA transistor on right side is cold. The number is ACRIAN 4387P1 842141467. I know it should be a matched pair but at this point I might take a chance. Anyone have a beatup amp for parts or a replacement transistor they would be willing to sell me? Man I hate charity jobs. They always cost me money. You guys ever notice that or is it just me? Thank you gentlemen, Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Mastr@ Base 2 mtr pwr amp failure need help
Local 2 mtr repeater using MastrII Base repeater station experiencing power amp failure. Circuit board 19D424266G1 Rev3. I do not have manual. Am told its a 100 watt unit. It does not have the 4 parallel output transistors in PA section. Symptoms are: turn up power controlto 90 watts and ok until you drop input, rekey and it will not produce output power. Crank power pot back down, turn it up to 90 watts again and it will run 90 watts all day until you unkey driver again. (using .5 watt HT for testing). Unit had the typical circuit board break on output pin to filter board. Repaired same. Unit also pulses rf power badly and can see amplitude pulse on analyzer. No spurs on sidebands. If anyone cares to comment I would appreciate it. Thanks, Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Desense issue on VHF Quantar
Had something similar the other day in workshop. Hooked repeater up to dummy load and it went away.Back on antenna andpulses reappeared.Found a Bearcat scanner was in scan mode producing a series of pulses near repeater frequency seen on spectrum analyzer. Turned scanner off and pulse noise went away. Got a scanner in your service van or one in the repeater shack? Or a neighbor have one hooked up to an outdoor antenna? They can be quite a signal generator. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Poor Repeater RX
Novice license? Old call KN2BDK. (8-20-52). It was really tough removing desense in the crystal set receivercaused byspark gap transmitter. Been trying ever since, haven'tfigured itout yet. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Get together at Dayton
Elisha Great idea on the R-B dinner Saturday evening. Want it organized right? Let a woman do it. Sorry guys... Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Mobile 110 watt amp
Kevin, Just got a Micor mobile repeater going. Was planning on running 110 watt amp around 65 watts. Installed a 120 vac squirrel cage fan right next to side heatsink.It is controlled via thermo switch mounted inside radio on heatsink casting. This fan nearly blows the paint off the heatsink fins. Also drilled 4 1/4 inch holes between heatsink fins to allow some forced air to enter radio and pass over power amp transistors. Did someone say to run 110 watt amp at full bore and to keep high capacity fan on it becausePA is temp controlled? Is this ok to do this? I would like to run my 110 watt amp at its rated power output if itwould last a decent amount of time in repeater service. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron parts update
Mike, Thanks for the heads up on Astron. Will try to buy a board from Skipp instead as you suggest. Am having trouble finding this mysterous person called Skipp. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Another Astron failure
Have an old Astron RS35A supply that I installed their OVP circuit about a year ago as a safety measure. Been working fine until now. Normal amp draw 20 amps. OVP circuit now trips easily. Checked collector solder joints as WW8RR (I think) suggested, they are fine.No load ripple about 150 mv and with a 20 amp load it jumps up to 150 mv and looks like a half wave positiverectification pulse. Regulation fine, don't getsuper hot, just has become very nervous about OVP trip.Installed values for RX1 20 ohm and RX3 10K.They were vacant prior to OVP trip problem. Any suggestions? Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: RE: RE: duplexer retuning
milguy Were rootin' for ya'let us know how you do because we have a Wacom 641 that is also 15 khz off and we plan to walk them in.My analyzer is on its way back to IFR. Good luck Gary Katona K2UQ Trenton, NJ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fan Temp Switch
FAN SWITCH...I use Airpax Series 6700. http://www.airpaxtsp.com/tspsite/6700.html. They are available in a number of temperature settings. Size TO220 package. I drive a 12 volt relay with mine, then I can control anything with relay contacts. Not bad price $6.85 each.Part No 67F040 (40 deg C). You might want a little higher trip point.Purchased from Sager Electronics, Middleboro, Ma 508 947-. Am presently installing one on the inside of the heatsink in a Moto Micor Mobile repeater, near the power output transistors. Also try Jim Breuer at Airpax Corp in Frederick, Md phone 240-379-1346 or www.airpax.net. I also install them in Astron supplies. Mount it inside the Astron between the two power transistors on heatsink. I use the screw thatholds the standoff for the equalizing resistors. One on each side. So if things get too hot it gives switch closure, relay will turn on fans. Gary K2UQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR FM/AM-1200S Service Monitor Operating Manual
I also have IFR 1200. Would appreciate .pdf copy. Thank you, Gary K2UQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC 1000 Controller
The Ron Wright RC1000 is a little tricky. Make sure you have the correct Control Program Select Code List (Table 15.1) for the Revision of your controller. You should use the table that is in the book that came with the controller. They are all different. I have a number of these RC1000 and they drove me nuts until I finally got the correct Table 15.1. Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we don't burn up bandwidth and I will try to help you get the thing to program correctly. Tell me the "sel codes" your having trouble with. After I got it fairly well figured out, its a pretty nice little controller for the price. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC 1000 Controller
ReRC1000..I experienced same problem you mentioned about it accepts the instruction by giving RR but it really didn't. I call the controller the fortune cookie controller because it lies to me by saying it accepted the code but it really didn't. First off, don't be afraid to do a reset on the Micro Processor. Its a pain doing everything over again but it's good for youbecause ittaxes the mind. Once started, don't stop in the programming process. There might be a little timer in there that goes to sleep if you stop mid stream and continue a few minutes later. There are two different resets for themicro P. When doing, leave ground lead on reset pin for few seconds. Don't just ground it and think everything is empty. A cheat sheet is a good idea. Again, are you sure your Table is correct for the micro P Rev you have? He changed some codes from En/Dis to a separatesel code for En and Dis. Ron is a very nice person. You give him a call in Florida and he will be glad to help you. One very important thing is to be absolutely sure your Touch Tones are correct and the encoding radio is on frequency.I have trouble with the D codes. The controller accepts by giving the RR but it didn't really accept it. Don't forget the 3 second or longer pause required between Programming Enable 1 and Programming Enable 2. When programming, everything must be perfect. If you are a little more specific I might be able to help. Am willing to try. Kevin I apologize for the bandwidth. If this is too much, holler. Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RC 1000 Controller (MCC List Available)
John, Thank you for the heads up on MCC Controller list. Very interesting. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Schematic or Manual for Biddle 433F
Am looking for a schematic or manual for a Biddle 433F TDR Cable Test Set. Trying to return a favor to a friend who has helped me greatly in the past. Willing to pay for, copy, etc. Thank you, Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Retuning of Sinclair I2113A Isolator
I agree with Eric WB6FLY to return unit to Sincair for factory adjustment and modification. My RFS/Celwave Model PCC-150B was on 158.1 Mhz and I had it factory retuned to 147 band. Cost of factory mod was well worth the $125 plus shipping. They retuned, replaced a 6T coil, adjusted coil spacing, reglued some poles, modified filter, reset output tap .100 inch. and included some nice plots.Rollingyour own on these items isn't the way to go. Too much black magic. Crack amagnet or something as its all over. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Retuning of Sinclair I2113A Isolator
Larry -Re Isolator rework. I am by far no expert on any of this stuff but a simple phonecall to the manufacturer of the particular brand Isolator/Circulator might be the best thing to do. Even if the manufacturer ofa particular item may have gone belly up, those in the trade usually know what to doand who can do what to other manufacturers products. I personally think its a little beetle inside the box running around in a circle squirting rf out certain ports is how it works. (Sic)... Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Retuning of Sinclair I2113A Isolator
Larry, RussW3CH just emailed for you to contact him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he can help you out. Gary Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Cushman CE5
I have same problem with IFR 1200. Need crt. Someone said it is a 95AB31 by Hatachi. Anyone have one of these puppies in there junk box? Just got off telephone with Aeroflex a few minutes ago about my IFR1500. Whew, those people are something else. They have had posession of my IFR1500 longer than I have. I can't afford to own this thing anymore. Gary K2UQ Trenton, NJ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: Genuine Factory 142 - 150.8 MHz. (TLD-8272B) Micor 2M Receiver - W3KKC
Kevin, Am interested in Micor Rx. What are you asking for it? Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor Mobile ckt bd ID
Please identify this circuit board TLD 8491A-3. Run up as follows: TLD4081A1 4 channel exciter TLD 8491 A-3 ??? TFD 6111A Bandpass Filter TLD 1602A 45 Watt Power Amp TFD 1601A Harmonic Filter The ??? TLD8491A-3 board has 8 tuning slugs in cans L1401 thru L1408 It also has a miniature relay. Power amp not defective because it gives proper output being driven with HT thru bandpass filter input. When I bypass phantom TLD 8491A-3 and drive PA with exciter board I only get 10 watts out of PA. Phantom TLD 8491A-3 is not listed in either of my two manuals. Radio is Micor mobile Canadian MX43RTA 132 - 150.8 mhz Could phantom board be a buffer for exciter because of wide spread freqs? Would like to replace board. Future plans to bypass internal PA and drive external 100 watt pa so I might need a little extra mw drive power. Would like that extra 3db. Thank you..Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] A big THANK YOU!
To Russ W3CH, Please keep me in the info loop on the DB228 antenna. I have one also and would like to have it installed on an 8 feet center to center tower or half way up a 300 foot 24 inch center/center tower. Prefer not reinventing the wheel and obviously you did your homework and I would appreciate and suggestions on this install. Thank you. Gary Katona K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Has any one used a DB-228
Request for guidance on a DB228I have a DB228 antenna designed for 2 meters. Needed is the proper mounting hardware/ mounting instructionsand some technical info on it. A minor problem exists where the coax connects to the dipole elements set screws being rusty and about half require replacement to put the antenna back inlong termworking condition. I mounted it on a pole for testing. SWR and noise bridge very good. It is an impressive antenna. Would love to have it on a tower. Its too much for me to do alone. If anyone has knowledge on the DB-228, especially how to mount it professionally, please let me know. I did contact a supplier the other day and they said they couldn't help because they are only export orientated.Thought about splitting it into two antennas but it would be a waste of a honker antenna. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Has any one used a DB-228
Dean, Thank you for the offer of installation help. I will give you a call tomorrow morning. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Starting out with a Mastr II
In a message dated 1/28/2005 6:21:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/m2icoms.html Thank you Mike Morris WA6ILQ, Scott Zimmerman N3XCC and Kevin Custer W3KKC for the excellent information and explanation article titled Various Types of GE Master II ICOMS. Been looking for this info for a long time. Just didn't know how/whereto find it. Got it now. What a fabulous group. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Starting out with a Mastr II
ED K3SWJ..please include me in your Mastr II information. I would love to learn more about the insides of these Mastr II radios. Gary K2UQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simpson meters??
Also might want to try Sunshine Scientific in Philadelphia, Pa. They repaired our Simpson meters for us. Don't know if they still do or not though. I do have some Simpson manuals for the 260 and 269 series meters. If you can tell me what scale went south I might be able to tell you the value or might even have one. Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Bet its the Rx1 smile. Look in bottom center of front panel glass to find correct series. Series, ID is very important to determine correct value of resistor Ialsohave a couple broken meters for spare parts. There ain't nothin' like a needle (meter that is). Put Simpson Meter in Subject so I don't think its SPAM. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: It is really funny!
Childrenchildrenlisten up... I've had a Maggiore R4VH Hi Pro Receiver and EV1H Transmitter purchased 7-18-83 on the air at a high RF environment and I must admit, it works great. Thank you Paul, your fine equipment has served me well. It is as good as, if not better than the Moto Mstr II stuff I also have. It holds its own. So lets stop bashing equipment and get to subject at hand..helping people with repeaters. There is some great knowledge here, I would hate to see it leave because of a couple of bashers. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL Tx board request
Yes, a Micor mobile converted to repeater. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Micor PL Tx board request
Would anyone be willing to swap or sell me the correct Micor Tx PL deck. The one I need has a pin spacing of about 3/8 inch. The one I have is pin spacing of 5/32 inch and has stamped TLN5731xxx. I do not need this one. I need the wide pin spacing Tx one. Thanks, Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Isolator/Circulator retune
Purchased a nice RFS Systems model PCC150-B off E-Bay set for 158.1 mhz. Sent it to factory for realignment to 2 meter band. Required test for magnet and reglue, replacement of a coil and re adjustment, modification of filter, reset isolator output trap. Cost was $125 plus shipping back in May 2001. One of my smarter moves. Did not attempt to touch it with my VOM, grid dip osc, vise grips and hammer. Definitely a factory required job. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Isolator/Circulator retune
Bob (NO6B), Congratulations on the frequency shift of the Isolator. Bet there is a lot of people on this reflector like me that wouldn't attempt that. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Telewave TWPC-1005-1 (Was DCI Band Pass Filter)
Skipp, Thank you for the information about the Telewave TWPC-1005-1 Filter install. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telewave TWPC-1005-1 (Was DCI Band Pass Filter)
Eric, Thank you for the explanation of the TWPC-4508-2 bandpass filter and its application. This is the way people like me who have been playing with this stuff gets straight info on how things really work without spending wasted hours at the repeater site. I thought this filter could be hooked either as a pass or notch cavity. The FM broadcast station is very close to my 2 meter repeater antenna. I thought proper approach would be put FM TWPC-1005-1 cavity in my Rx side of my duplexer to notch out FM station. Or, should I put a DCI filter in line someplace. Or add a pass cavity on Rx side. What happens to the RF rejection on a filter such as a DCI for 2 meters when the freq you want to reject is say 46.205 mhz away from 2 meter repeater input. How much attenuation does a filter such as a DCI provide at these far away freqs? I don't want to be boring for those who are in the know. But I am aware there is a lot of good knowledge here. Not everyone tuned into this reflector is an expert. That's why many are here to help us guys learn. Thanks, Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telewave TWPC-1005-1 (Was DCI Band Pass Filter)
Eric, Thank you for the information. I shall try in the very near future. God info !! Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DCI Band Pass Filter
To W3CH - Russ, suggestions on installation of DCI Band Pass Filter.. Come on, lets share this information on R-B about DCI filters with the rest of us learners. What is the best way to install? Where in duplexer line, etc.? Have one of these things also. Having trouble with a FM broadcast station. Acquired a Telewave Mod TWPC-1005-1 Pass Cavity. Would like to install it correctly the first time without turning it into a science project. On occasion spending too much time at repeater site could make us hams a pain in the butt to site owners. Lets get it right the first time. Thanks, Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] IFR 1500 manual
Hi and season greetings to all.question: In need of an operating and/or service manual for an IFR 1500 service monitor. If someone here would have one for sale, or would take one to Kinko's, Staples, or wherever and have it copied for me, I would greatly appreciate and be happy to pay for their trouble. Normal search channels have been fruitless. Hint- Might be a way for someone who happens to have one make a few extra bucks by having their manual duplicated and offered for sale. (hoping this is legal). Thank you, Gary Katona K2UQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller madness (whiz' bang - sparkle!)
ReYour comments on jap wheeze-o-matic rice burners. You must be referring to those plastic jelly beans with mufflers that sound like an elephant passing gas. They are so UN-cool. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question
A very nice article for installing PL259 connectors on hard line can be found at http://repeater.w4zt.com/duplexer/superflex/index.html . The article titled Using Andrew FSJ1-50A 1/4 Superflex Heliax with PL-259 Connectors is the one to read. Someone also suggested drilling holes in the adapter to allow better solder flow is good also. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static?
Graphite source is any hardware store. Extra Fine Graphite Manufactured by AGS Co. Muskegon, Mi 49443 and Lub-a-Spray manufactured by Panef Manufacturing Co., Inc Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Both come in a handheld plastic squeeze tube about 5 inches long and 1 inch diameter. Remove plastic cap, squeeze tube and you have an instant mess. Its slippery, goes a long way, and makes everything instantly black. Again, any hardware store should have this product. Use in well ventilated area. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help needed (humor)
Congratulations to Jeff Depolo. Hope you enjoy many happy years with the new bride. Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Contact info
Phone number for Cook Towers: 877- 992-2665 ask for Kathy AB2LF. [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Tell us how it goes. I would like to try them also. Info received via W3CH. smile Gary K2UQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
