Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame
I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar compound MSG. To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made broth too] Ode At 12:15 AM 9/7/2003 +0930, you wrote: Jack, I can't help but come in here to support Marshall. By all means, go and have a look around at the aspartamegroup at Yahoo. Hanneke~Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] Ode At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-) present in a solution so that the net charge is zero. Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide. If the goal is to make a concentration of silver greater than 13 ppm, then some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound. Silver citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds of silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate. frank key - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame
I subscribed to this list by clicking on a link that Hanneke was kind enough to send me. But I can't seem to get to the archives...is there one? Thanks V Greetings V, You'll find the Silver List archives at: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html You can always find your way back there by clicking on the link to the Silver List web site that is in the footer at the bottom of this and every message from the list. Just click on the Archives link in the left hand nav menu. Welcome aboard! Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Unidentified subject!
OK, Where in the H*ll is arsenic going to come from?!! Arsenic is an elemental metal..it CANNOT be made out of anything else. * Name: arsenic * Symbol: As * Atomic number: 33 * Atomic weight: 74.92160 (2) aspartame chemical information alpha.-aspartyl-, 2-methyl ester, Chemical Formula C14H18N2O5 Do YOU see any arsenic in there? You do your case no good at all with this absolute tripe. At least get your info 'somewhat' straight. OH wait! maybe it's true! Tell me how you do it and I'll be able to turn charcoal [carbon] into gold! Ode At 02:40 PM 9/6/2003 -0700, you wrote: When aspartame is exposed to sunlight it turns into arsenic; aspartame, like fluoride, is a brain poison. My grape vitamin C with aspartame is all being picked up by courier. -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Unidentified subject! jrowl...@nctimes.net 9/5/03 1:15 PM Wrote: As you can probably see, I disagree with your position on aspartame---Jack To the point of ingesting it? Well I not sure about ingesting, but I average about 3 cans a day, and have for over 8 years -- not even a pimple so far. There is an ice-filled, refreshing glass of ant poison' within reach as I type this. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPool filters
A while back I was looking for ways to sterilize water for camping. One system used Clorine to kill microbes and Hydrogen peroxide to neutralize the Chlorine. Wassup with this? Ode At 06:59 PM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Many Thanks, Bill, I'll pass this on to my son, a Desert Storm Vet, who uses >his 600 gal hottub nightly to overcome much pain. To get away from using >Chlorine other harmful products, he's been trying CS, CCu and H2O2 after >letting the fill water containing Chlorine evaporate overnight. To date he's >quite pleased with this, but we continue to look for a better way. >Hope you find your solution soon. >If I can help in any way, please let me know. www.rharrisinc.com or >yr...@cfl.rr.com >Sincerely, >Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist > > >-Original Message- >From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:06 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>Pool filters > > >The Monarca company, located in San Luis Potosi, Mexico, produces a home >water purification device which is a meter long section of 2-inch PVC pipe >containing app. 10-12 2-inch ceramic balls which are permeated with CS. It >is immersed in your home water cistern or water tank, and the agitation of >incoming water releases the CS from the ceramic balls to purify the water. > >We have been using them in house for about three years (each tube has a >2-year life span in a 5000 liter tank) with excellent results. Our water >now comes from a river source of dubious purity, which is run through a sand >filtration process before delivery. We've never had the water tested for >purity, but have used the Monarca CS product, and have not suffered any >skin, internal afflictions from the water. (This includes brushing teeth >with it, but not direct consumption). > >The Monarca devices are rather pricey for >Mexico -- about $40 US per tube -- but they have a good life span and do the >job. > >Hope this helpsBill > > >- Original Message - >From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com> >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:34 PM >Subject: RE: CS>Pool filters > > >> Bill, please elucidate further on Monarcha CS Ceramic Flotation device. >> There is a company in Clearwater, FL that makes CS CU filters for pools > >> spas. Expensive to me but might fit your needs. >> Best regards, >> Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:37 PM >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Subject: CS>Pool filters >> >> >> Hi, we're putting in a pool in Southern Mexico which we plan on using to >> irrigate our fruit trees as well and want to use colloidal silver to >filter >> it. We're planning on using a colloidal silver ceramic flotation device >sold >> in Mexico by a company called Monarcha. Does anyone have any experience >with >> this product or with pools generally? I know this has been discussed >before >> but, your help would be appreciated. Thanks! >> >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com> >> >> >> > > > >
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
It is not clear to me what you are trying to stabilize. If you saturated a water filter with silver citrate, water passing through the filter would simply wash it away since silver citrate is water soluble. It would make more sense to me to impregnate a water filter with metallic silver. frank key - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Frank, Forgive me if I've asked this before. For the concentrated CS we use to saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary? This would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other parts of the country. Reid Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Ode/Jack
Hi ...I have been following this train of thought and wondered when someone would acknowledge that the stuff (aspertame) tastes lousy . Agree on the MSG also. Ode...if you have a health food store near you ...chances are you can find the cup a soup without any additives. They also sell boxes of broth. Sounds weird doesn't it? Broth in boxes? But it is very good. The broth is listed as Natural. States on the container...Contains no msg...fat...glutens..and less sodium (about 1/2 of reg.broth) INGREDIENTS; Chicken (also comes in Beef and Vegatable) stock, Natural Flavor?..salt..Vegatable Stocks (carrot, onion, celery)..Corn Syrup:((don't know why that is necessary)...Bay Leaf, Thyme, Peppercorn. You can buy larger containers... or... the 8 oz size. They make a wonderful cooking tool...excellent for bases of soups...or to add to Rice for Pilaf...etc. The brand I buy is called KITCHEN BASICS. Don't know if you have stores by the name of PRICE CHOPPER where you live but they have an organic section and carry these broths. As I read these posts I think I can understand why Jack clings to his comfort drink. It took years before my daugter and my grandchildren learned the dangers of these drinks and only when they got quite ill ...started weeding out un natural foods...and they feel so much better now. Perhaps Jack will come to that place one day and remember all the people here who tried to get him to abandon that poison and he will find a drink that works for him. My personal favorite is Perrier. But nothing wrong with just plain old water:) Good luck to you both..Jack...on finding out the truth about foods that have been changed to suit the publics ideas of simply delicious:) and to you Ode on your soup making. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar compound MSG. To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made broth too] Ode At 12:15 AM 9/7/2003 +0930, you wrote: Jack, I can't help but come in here to support Marshall. By all means, go and have a look around at the aspartamegroup at Yahoo. Hanneke~Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Ode wrote: If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] The 13 ppm is for pure water, but you don't have pure water. Your water has dissolved carbon dioxide and other contaminants. The CO2 provides carbonate anions so the silver cation concentration can go a bit higher. ... and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentration of those ions... A PWT measures electrical conductivity which increases as the ionic content of the liquid increases. The PWT reading has a relationship to total ionic content, not silver content. Any ions added to the water increase the electrical conductivity and thus the PWT reading. Just bubbling air through the water will increase the PWT reading. The notion that silver content can be determined by a PWT is myth, not science. If you want to measure the silver ionic concentration use an Ion Selective Electrode (ISE). ...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Probably because you have an ionic solution that is at equilibrium. It does not mean you have any specific amount of silver. An ISE can determine the ionic silver concentration (but not total silver). Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? Anions do not discharge cations. The cations and anions both retain their ionic charge. They are always in balance to maintain a net charge of zero. there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. Silver cation concentration cannot go higher unless the companion anions are provided. If silver cations are added to the water by electrolysis beyond the available anions present, the solution becomes saturated and the silver precipitates out as metallic silver in the form of large flat flakes. [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] You are only guessing about concentration. Unless you are adding citrate or some other anion to the water it is unlikely it will get anywhere near 150 ppm. Unless the total silver is tested by a scientifically valid method (atomic absorption/emission) you can't be sure what you have. frank key - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:50 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] Ode At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-) present in a solution so that the net charge is zero. Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide. If the goal is to make a concentration of silver greater than 13 ppm, then some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound. Silver citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds of silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate. frank key - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the
Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
Hi Ken: Another anion is used, quite possibly carbonate, a few people have even hypothesized that the anion is nitrogen. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 3:50 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when making CS? Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to 'discharge' the silver cations? [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher. TE at that reading is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM] Ode At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-) present in a solution so that the net charge is zero. Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide. If the goal is to make a concentration of silver greater than 13 ppm, then some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound. Silver citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds of silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate. frank key - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid? I am not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess. Is there any underlying logic apparent to a chemist? On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote: Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz Ionic Silver. Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria if caution is not exercised in how much is consumed. Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using a colloidal silver generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to the DI water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion anion when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis. The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available citrate anions. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfw: ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS
Or it can cause a multitude of problems up to and including death for those severely allergic to it (iodine). paula - Original Message - From: John Draper jdr...@lisco.com For those interested in using iodine for health, I found the following article very useful. I was not aware of some of the benefits mentioned here, nor some of the means one can apply it. - John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame
Hi Ode, I would be very pleased to receive any useful recipes. My fav tomato soup, a no-name-brand, which seemed to have little or none MSG has disappeared off the shelves. Will look around for info and swop anything interesting. Tony I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like cup-o- noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar compound MSG. To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made broth too] Ode At 12:15 AM 9/7/2003 +0930, you wrote: Jack, I can't help but come in here to support Marshall. By all means, go and have a look around at the aspartamegroup at Yahoo. Hanneke~Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSfw: ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS
Orchids to Dr. John Draper for this excellent, informative, important article re SSKI ! Thanks, Dr. John, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: John Draper [mailto:jdr...@lisco.com] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:39 PM To: silver-list Subject: CSfw: ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS For those interested in using iodine for health, I found the following article very useful. I was not aware of some of the benefits mentioned here, nor some of the means one can apply it. - John from: http://www.tahoma-clinic.com/iodide.shtml ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS (Reprinted From Nutrition and Healing) If you've read or heard anything at all about potassium iodide, it's probably been in association with terrorist attacks or nuclear power plant disasters. Potassium iodide (usually taken in tablet form) is recommended by public health authorities to protect the thyroid gland against accumulation of radioactive iodine released by a terrorist bomb or by nuclear power plant meltdown. But in reality, potassium iodide is a very effective home remedy with literally dozens of uses. Older readers may remember Mother putting iodine on cuts and scrapes. It kept infection away as well as any modern antibiotic ointment, with the added benefit of not inducing bacterial resistance. But what else is potassium iodide (usually abbreviated by it's Latin initials SSKI) good for? Read onÂ…and then make sure to read the separate section about keeping SSKI use safe. Some years ago, a retired Indian physician told me about his use of SSKI during more than 30 years traveling from village to village in rural Africa. Most usually, the only drinking water available was from a local stream or river, muddy and contaminated. After removing sediment and debris by straining the dirty water through cheesecloth, he'd add several drops of SSKI, and wait two to three minutes. He and his team could then drink the water. In over 30 years, he never got an infection from contaminated water. The SSKI killed any micro-organisms present. Fortunately, the water available to most of us when traveling is considerably cleaner. Despite this, when Holly (my wife) and I travel, we always carry a small bottle of SSKI, and put one or two drops into any water we're not absolutely certain about. We've cut back considerably on airline travel this year because of the thoroughly un-American and extremely unpleasant airport Gestapo experience. But when we're forced to travel by air, we drink a few ounces of water with 10 drops of SSKI, and prevent any airline sinusitis or other respiratory infection that so often follows several hours spent breathing re-cycled, germ laden air. (SSKI rapidly accumulates in any and all body secretions, including in the sinuses, where it inhibits or kills bacteria, viruses, and fungi before they can cause an infection.) Although Holly has never had the experience, occasionally another woman at one of the conferences we attend has developed a bladder infection when far away from home and her own physician. Holly gives her our back-up small bottle of SSKI with instructions to take 10 to 15 drops in water or juice every 3 to 4 hours (while awake) until the infection is gone. [Although SSKI is close to 100% effective in the elimination of bladder infections, this is a high dose; make sure to read the section Keeping SSKI safe. If possible, it's best to use the simple sugar D-mannose to eliminate bladder infections. D-mannose is effective over 90% of the time, and is very, very safe. For details, see D-mannose and Bladder Infection by Lane Lenard Ph.D. and me, available through the Tahoma Clinic Dispensary.] When our children were teenagers, they always knew where to find the SSKI bottle. Whenever one of them popped a zit, she or he would rub SSKI into it every hour or two. The offending zit would be gone in 24-48 hours or less; an innumerable number of social events were rendered zit-free by this approach. So far, I've been telling you about SSKI's ability to kill germs in one place or another. We'll return to this important home remedy use for SSKI, but let's digress for now to other uses. Many women develop fibrocystic breast disease. In the 1970s, I learned from pioneering trace element researcher Dr. John Myers that iodine (a close relative of SSKI) would eliminate even the most severe cases of fibrocystic breast disease. [For the full details of this treatment, see pages 169-174 of The Patient's Book of Natural Healing by Alan Gaby M.D. and me.] In medium to minor cases, 6 to 8 drops of SSKI taken in a few ounces of water daily will frequently reduce fibrocystic breast disease to insignificance within three to six months. Please do not do this without monitoring your thyroid functionÂ…see Keeping SSKI Safe on page whatever. One of our
RE: CSPool filters
Thanks Ode, for this suggestion. 30 years ago Working with Girl Scouts Boy Scouts as we raised our 3 daughters (all First Class) 2 sons (Both Eagles) instead of boiling water for drinking, we would add an ounce of Chlorox to a gallon of Water, let it set for 30 minutes to purify, then drink OR we would add an Iodine tablet to a canteen of water, wait 30 minutes, then drink. The only problem was unpleasant taste. Since discovering God's gift of CS, upon being told by Clermont to boil our water to purify it due to broken water line in our area; we just put 1 oz. CS (10-20 ppm in 1 gallon water, shake, wait 30 minutes then use as potable water. 100% effective no unpleasant taste. I also, suspect the Hydrogen Peroxide might kill the microbes alone; however, thanks to a tip from many of you wonderful contributors to this list, I add 5cc (1 teaspoonful) H2O2 to each quart of CS solution believe it to be many times more effective that CS alone without any bad stuff, such as Chorine. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacict -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 7:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSPool filters A while back I was looking for ways to sterilize water for camping. One system used Clorine to kill microbes and Hydrogen peroxide to neutralize the Chlorine. Wassup with this? Ode At 06:59 PM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote: Many Thanks, Bill, I'll pass this on to my son, a Desert Storm Vet, who uses his 600 gal hottub nightly to overcome much pain. To get away from using Chlorine other harmful products, he's been trying CS, CCu and H2O2 after letting the fill water containing Chlorine evaporate overnight. To date he's quite pleased with this, but we continue to look for a better way. Hope you find your solution soon. If I can help in any way, please let me know. www.rharrisinc.com or yr...@cfl.rr.com Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPool filters The Monarca company, located in San Luis Potosi, Mexico, produces a home water purification device which is a meter long section of 2-inch PVC pipe containing app. 10-12 2-inch ceramic balls which are permeated with CS. It is immersed in your home water cistern or water tank, and the agitation of incoming water releases the CS from the ceramic balls to purify the water. We have been using them in house for about three years (each tube has a 2-year life span in a 5000 liter tank) with excellent results. Our water now comes from a river source of dubious purity, which is run through a sand filtration process before delivery. We've never had the water tested for purity, but have used the Monarca CS product, and have not suffered any skin, internal afflictions from the water. (This includes brushing teeth with it, but not direct consumption). The Monarca devices are rather pricey for Mexico -- about $40 US per tube -- but they have a good life span and do the job. Hope this helpsBill - Original Message - From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: RE: CSPool filters Bill, please elucidate further on Monarcha CS Ceramic Flotation device. There is a company in Clearwater, FL that makes CS CU filters for pools spas. Expensive to me but might fit your needs. Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSPool filters Hi, we're putting in a pool in Southern Mexico which we plan on using to irrigate our fruit trees as well and want to use colloidal silver to filter it. We're planning on using a colloidal silver ceramic flotation device sold in Mexico by a company called Monarcha. Does anyone have any experience with this product or with pools generally? I know this has been discussed before but, your help would be appreciated. Thanks! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame
Hi Ode, I am allergic to MSG it takes my blood pressure to over 200. Look in the Campbell soup line as they have a group that is MSG free and they do have chicken noodle soup. I enjoyed a cup several days ago. Ole Bob Ode Coyote wrote: I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar compound MSG. To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made broth too] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLM334Z Current limiter
Hi Ya'all, I have just finished a 24 hour run using Steve Young's LM334Z regulator and it works like a champ, and it is rock solid. I will attach the Wplot data. those that have the Wplot16 or 32 can look at the curves, all others can open the file with your notepad. Briefly, I set up as near to Steve's process as possible and monitored cell voltage, cell current and conductivity during the run, and withdrew two 1 cc samples during the brew to test for PPM (true) and the final PPM. At the 8 hr. point Ag+ = 6.16 PPM, At the 17 hr. point Ag+ = 10.56 PPM The final conc. after stirring the brew is 11.66 PPM. This process is very susceptible to any motion. I may repeat it with mechanical stirring. To give you an example of how your PWT will fool you the conductivity at the end after stirring was 79.3 uS/cm. and the conc. is 11.66 PPM. Ole Bob Steve Young.PLT Description: application/unknown-content-type-plt_auto_file
Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Ken, re MSG
Ode Coyote 9/7/03 3:39 AM Wrote: I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar compound MSG. To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made broth too] *** Hi Ken, I would buy some bennies at the drop of an opportunity. Well, MSG (Accent) doesn't have to be a problem - quite a few years ago a study revealed that the reactions - Chinese Restaurant Syndrome - could be prevented with the addition of ( and I don't remember if it was just one B vitamin, or the B group, but if you are over 50, I suggest that adding a Balanced B 100 Multiple, should very shortly, say a week or two, prevent any reaction other than delight at the ingestion (I looked that up :-) ) of any food using mono sodium glutimate as a flavor enhancer. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame
Hanneke 9/6/03 9:03 PM Wrote: You enjoy your diet drinks mate, I'll stick with my water and lemon drinks. * WAIT -- you forgot the gin !! Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSilver Citrate and water filters
Frank, The time may come when we saturate with metalic silver, but only after we're able to locate this, in very fine sizes. We will do this according to location and sustainability. In the meantime we use CS because it's relatively easy. What happens is that after firing the filter it's saturated with concentrated CS, then allowed to dry. This leads to the kind of reaction that you described in your Saturday message, ending up with silver oxide which is the disinfectant, 'stuck' in the filter medium. The reason we need a stabilizer, whether silver citrate or whatever works, is because the concentrated CS will 'go off,' as I'm sure you know, in the presence of magnetic fields or light, precipitating as silver oxide. The stabilizer will prevent this, allowing the CS to be transported to other filter factories. Otherwise we need to saturate immediately after production, or store in a known stabile environment. Are you aware of other materials we could use as stabilizer? It is true that some filter companies mix metalic silver into their moist clay, then forming, drying and firing, but we can't get their without procuring the silver then doing a lot of experimentation. Also the production oc concentrated CS is sustainable where making the metalic silver powder may not be. After all we are not in the industrialized world, but rather a small corner of South Asia. And the process must be replicable in other such countries. Reid Frank Key said It is not clear to me what you are trying to stabilize. If you saturated a water filter with silver citrate, water passing through the filter would simply wash it away since silver citrate is water soluble. It would make more sense to me to impregnate a water filter with metallic silver. frank key - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate Frank, Forgive me if I've asked this before. For the concentrated CS we use to saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary? This would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other parts of the country. Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Ode/Jack/Aspartame/MSG
MSG is another 'beauty'. Even though I personally like a savoury taste in my soups or other edibles, with MSG I tend to end up with a burning sensation in my mouth which undoes all the pleasure of eating anything with MSG in it. This is separate from feeling ill afterwards, with asthma and other respiratory problems. It has become very tricky with both additives (Aspartame and MSG) as processed food manufacturers have quite a few loopholes they can use to add the stuff anyway. With Aspartame, if added part is less than 2% it does not have to be on the labels. Otherwise they have the right to state: contains 951 and other obscure labelling which makes one guess of what it could be; MSG often is a hidden ingredient. If and when I want to buy processed foods, I won't get it if anything on the labels can't be 'translated' within a split second. Don't have that problem when buying fresh (organic) produce. I learnt the negative effects of the stuff the hard way, with all the sweeteners, savoury tasty additions, colourings and whatever else they put in foods when my children were still very young (multiple health problems). In spite of the pretty rough years when mine weren't given nor allowed (by me) to eat certain things any longer, especially when they were teenagers (when their friends were allowed EVERYTHING.that's my 'deprived' kids talking), I'm thrilled to bits to learn that they are now also very particular and aware indeed about foods, probably even more so than I ever was. Dr. Russell L.Baylock's book: Exito toxins - The Taste that Kills, is interesting reading. Even if it doesn't convince the readers of the poisonous effects now, it should stick somewhere in the back of their mind. I don't think the arsenice connection with aspartame is correct; aspartame heated over 86F, the wood alcohol (methanol) - formaldehyde - formic acid - metabolic acidosis, and chronic methanol toxicity shows up in neurological symptoms as in lupus and MS. Hanneke~Austrarlia - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar compound MSG. To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made broth too] Ode At 12:15 AM 9/7/2003 +0930, you wrote: Jack, I can't help but come in here to support Marshall. By all means, go and have a look around at the aspartamegroup at Yahoo. Hanneke~Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSCyanosis - the other blue skin disorder
Skin coloration is determined by the amount of pigment in the skin and the blood flowing through it. Blood that is saturated with oxygen is bright red. Blood that has lost its oxygen is dark bluish-red. People who have a large quantity of blood deficient in oxygen tend to take on a bluish discoloration called cyanosis... http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003215.htm jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Ode/Jack/Aspartame/MSG
...with all the sweeteners, savoury tasty additions, colourings and whatever else they put in foods...---Hanneke Yep, gave up on a favorite treat, chicken-pot-pie, after finally noticing propylene glycol in the ingredients list. When I called the manufacturer to ask what anti-freeze was doing in my food, was told it helps with the consistancy/texture...and besides, there's not that much of it in the product. Nice official explanation: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts96.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanti freeze, yummy! NOT
Propylene glycol is in soda pop, too, like Squirt. It is sweet, that is why pets drink it, and then die... Marshalee ...with all the sweeteners, savoury tasty additions, colourings and whatever else they put in foods...---Hanneke Yep, gave up on a favorite treat, chicken-pot-pie, after finally noticing propylene glycol in the ingredients list. When I called the manufacturer to ask what anti-freeze was doing in my food, was told it helps with the consistancy/texture...and besides, there's not that much of it in the product. Nice official explanation: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts96.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS Metallic Taste
Most of us can detect the distinct metallic taste of CS products. What are we tasting - the ions, the particles (colloids), or both? --Steve Y. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFwd: Re: Argyria
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