Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame

2003-09-07 Thread Ode Coyote
  I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar compound MSG.
To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. 
..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed.  [with home made broth too]

Ode

At 12:15 AM 9/7/2003 +0930, you wrote: 

Jack, I can't help but come in here to support Marshall.  By all means, go and have a look around at the aspartamegroup at Yahoo.  
  
Hanneke~Australia
  






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Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate

2003-09-07 Thread Ode Coyote
 If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between
cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS
reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those
ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when
making CS?
 Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to
'discharge' the silver cations?
 [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but
there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher.  TE at that reading
is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM]

Ode


At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion (-)
present in a solution so that the net charge is zero.

Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as the
anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide.

If the goal is to make a concentration of  silver greater than 13 ppm, then
some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from
combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound. Silver
citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds of
silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate.

frank key


- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate


 Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid?   I am
 not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess.  Is there
 any underlying logic apparent to a chemist?







 On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote:

  Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz
  Ionic
  Silver.
 
  Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause
  argyria if
  caution is not exercised in how much is consumed.
 
  Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using  a colloidal
  silver
  generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to
  the DI
  water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion
  anion
  when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis.
 
  The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available
  citrate
  anions.
 
 
  frank key
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame

2003-09-07 Thread M. G. Devour
 I subscribed to this list by clicking on a link that Hanneke was kind
 enough to send me. But I can't seem to get to the archives...is there
 one?  Thanks V

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RE: CSRe: Unidentified subject!

2003-09-07 Thread Ode Coyote

  OK, Where in the H*ll is arsenic going to come from?!!
Arsenic is an elemental metal..it CANNOT be made out of anything else.
* Name: arsenic
* Symbol: As
* Atomic number: 33
* Atomic weight: 74.92160 (2)

aspartame chemical information
alpha.-aspartyl-, 2-methyl ester, Chemical Formula C14H18N2O5

 Do YOU see any arsenic in there?
 You do your case no good at all with this absolute tripe.
 At least get your info 'somewhat' straight.

OH wait!  maybe it's true!  Tell me how you do it and I'll be able to turn
charcoal [carbon] into gold!

Ode

At 02:40 PM 9/6/2003 -0700, you wrote:
When aspartame is exposed to sunlight it turns into arsenic; aspartame,
like fluoride, is a brain poison. My grape vitamin C with aspartame is
all being picked up by courier.

-Original Message-
From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: Unidentified subject!

jrowl...@nctimes.net   9/5/03 1:15 PM  Wrote:

 As you can probably see, I disagree with your
 position on aspartame---Jack
 
 To the point of ingesting it?

Well I not sure about ingesting,
but I average about 3 cans a day,
and have for over 8 years --
not even a pimple so far.
There is an ice-filled, refreshing
glass of ant poison' within reach
as I type this.

Jack
 


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RE: CSPool filters

2003-09-07 Thread Ode Coyote
 A while back I was looking for ways to sterilize water for camping.
One system used Clorine to kill microbes and Hydrogen peroxide to neutralize the Chlorine.
Wassup with this?

Ode

At 06:59 PM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Many Thanks, Bill, I'll pass this on to my son, a Desert Storm Vet, who uses
>his 600 gal hottub nightly to overcome much pain. To get away from using
>Chlorine  other harmful products, he's been trying CS, CCu and H2O2 after
>letting the fill water containing Chlorine evaporate overnight. To date he's
>quite pleased with this, but we continue to look for a better way.
>Hope you find your solution soon.
>If I can help in any way, please let me know. www.rharrisinc.com or
>yr...@cfl.rr.com
>Sincerely,
>Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx]
>Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:06 PM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Pool filters
>
>
>The Monarca company, located in San Luis Potosi, Mexico, produces a home
>water purification device which is a meter long section of 2-inch PVC pipe
>containing app. 10-12 2-inch ceramic balls which are permeated with CS.  It
>is immersed in your home water cistern or water tank, and the agitation of
>incoming water releases the CS from the ceramic balls to purify the water.
>
>We have been using them in house for about three years (each tube has  a
>2-year life span in a 5000 liter tank) with excellent results.  Our water
>now comes from a river source of dubious purity, which is run through a sand
>filtration process before delivery.  We've never had the water tested for
>purity, but have used the	Monarca CS product, and have not suffered  any
>skin, internal afflictions from the water.  (This includes brushing teeth
>with it, but not direct consumption).
>
>The Monarca devices are rather pricey for
>Mexico -- about $40 US per tube -- but they have a good life span and do the
>job.
>
>Hope this helpsBill
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com>
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com>
>Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:34 PM
>Subject: RE: CS>Pool filters
>
>
>> Bill, please elucidate further on Monarcha CS Ceramic Flotation device.
>> There is a company in Clearwater, FL that makes CS  CU filters for pools
>
>> spas. Expensive to me but might fit your needs.
>> Best regards,
>> Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx]
>> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:37 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: CS>Pool filters
>>
>>
>> Hi, we're putting in a pool in Southern Mexico which we plan on using to
>> irrigate our fruit trees as well and want to use colloidal silver to
>filter
>> it. We're planning on using a colloidal silver ceramic flotation device
>sold
>> in Mexico by a company called Monarcha. Does anyone have any experience
>with
>> this product or with pools generally? I know this has been discussed
>before
>> but, your help would be appreciated.  Thanks!
>>
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Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate

2003-09-07 Thread Frank Key
It is not clear to me what you are trying to stabilize.  If you saturated a
water filter with silver citrate, water passing through the filter would
simply wash it away since silver citrate is water soluble.

It would make more sense to me to impregnate a water filter with metallic
silver.

frank key




- Original Message - 
From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate


 Frank,
 Forgive me if I've asked this before.  For the concentrated CS we use to
 saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a
 stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary?  This
 would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other parts
 of the country.
 Reid

 Frank Key wrote:
 Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz
 Ionic
 Silver.

 Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause argyria
 if
 caution is not exercised in how much is consumed.

 Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using  a colloidal
 silver
 generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to
 the DI
 water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion
 anion
 when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis.

 The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available
 citrate
 anions.


 frank key




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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Ode/Jack

2003-09-07 Thread V
Hi ...I have been following this train of thought and wondered when someone 
would acknowledge that the stuff (aspertame) tastes lousy .
Agree on the MSG also.

Ode...if you have a health food store near you ...chances are you can find 
the cup a soup without any additives.
They also sell  boxes of broth.  Sounds weird doesn't it?  Broth in boxes?  
But it is very good.
The  broth is listed as Natural.  States on the container...Contains no 
msg...fat...glutens..and less sodium (about 1/2 of reg.broth)
INGREDIENTS; Chicken (also comes in Beef and Vegatable) stock, Natural 
Flavor?..salt..Vegatable Stocks (carrot, onion, celery)..Corn Syrup:((don't 
know why that is necessary)...Bay Leaf, Thyme, Peppercorn.

You can buy larger containers... or... the 8 oz size.

They make a wonderful cooking tool...excellent for bases of soups...or to add 
to Rice for Pilaf...etc.
The brand I buy is called KITCHEN BASICS.
Don't know if you have stores by the name of PRICE CHOPPER where you live but 
they have an organic section and carry these broths.

As I read these posts I think I can understand why Jack clings to his comfort 
drink.
It took years before my daugter and my grandchildren learned the dangers of 
these drinks and only when they got quite ill ...started weeding out un natural 
foods...and they feel so much better now.

Perhaps Jack will come to that place one day and remember all the people here 
who tried to get him to abandon that poison and he will find a drink that works 
for him.
My personal favorite is Perrier.
But nothing wrong with just plain old water:)

Good luck to you both..Jack...on finding out the truth about foods that have 
been changed to suit the publics ideas of simply delicious:)  and to you Ode 
on your soup making. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ode Coyote 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:39 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame


  I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like 
cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar 
compound MSG.
  To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. 
  ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made 
broth too]

  Ode

  At 12:15 AM 9/7/2003 +0930, you wrote: 
  

Jack, I can't help but come in here to support Marshall. By all means, go 
and have a look around at the aspartamegroup at Yahoo. 

Hanneke~Australia



  



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Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate

2003-09-07 Thread Frank Key
Ode wrote:

 If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between
 cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?]

The 13 ppm is for pure water, but you don't have pure water. Your water has
dissolved carbon dioxide and other contaminants. The CO2 provides carbonate
anions so the silver cation concentration can go a bit higher.

 ... and a PWT uS reading bears a relationship to the quantity
 and concentration of those ions...

A PWT measures electrical conductivity which increases as the ionic content
of the liquid increases. The PWT reading has a relationship to total ionic
content, not silver content. Any ions added to the water increase the
electrical conductivity and thus the PWT reading. Just bubbling air through
the water will increase the PWT reading. The notion that silver content can
be determined by a PWT is myth, not science. If you want to measure the
silver ionic concentration use an Ion Selective Electrode (ISE).

 ...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT when
 making CS?

Probably because you have an ionic solution that is at equilibrium.

It does not mean you have any specific amount of silver. An ISE can
determine the ionic silver concentration (but not total silver).

  Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to
 'discharge' the silver cations?

Anions do not discharge cations. The cations and anions both retain their
ionic charge. They are always in balance to maintain a net charge of zero.

 there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher.

Silver cation concentration cannot go higher unless the companion anions are
provided. If silver cations are added to the water by electrolysis beyond
the available anions present, the solution becomes saturated and the silver
precipitates out as metallic silver in the form of large flat flakes.

  [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but
 there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher.  TE at that reading
 is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM]

You are only guessing about concentration. Unless you are adding citrate or
some other anion to the water it is unlikely it will get anywhere near 150
ppm. Unless the total silver is tested by a scientifically valid method
(atomic absorption/emission) you can't be sure what you have.


frank key



- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate


 If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between
 cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS
 reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those
 ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT
when
 making CS?
  Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to
 'discharge' the silver cations?
  [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but
 there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher.  TE at that reading
 is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM]

 Ode


 At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
 Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion
(-)
 present in a solution so that the net charge is zero.
 
 Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as
the
 anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide.
 
 If the goal is to make a concentration of  silver greater than 13 ppm,
then
 some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from
 combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound.
Silver
 citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds
of
 silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate.
 
 frank key
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM
 Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
 
 
  Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid?   I am
  not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess.  Is there
  any underlying logic apparent to a chemist?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote:
 
   Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz
   Ionic
   Silver.
  
   Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause
   argyria if
   caution is not exercised in how much is consumed.
  
   Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using  a colloidal
   silver
   generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to
   the DI
   water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion
   anion
   when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis.
  
   The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the 

Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate

2003-09-07 Thread Jason Eaton
Hi Ken:

Another anion is used, quite possibly carbonate, a few people have even
hypothesized that the anion is nitrogen.

Best Regards,

Jason

- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate


 If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between
 cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS
 reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those
 ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT
when
 making CS?
  Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to
 'discharge' the silver cations?
  [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but
 there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher.  TE at that reading
 is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM]

 Ode


 At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
 Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion
(-)
 present in a solution so that the net charge is zero.
 
 Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as
the
 anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide.
 
 If the goal is to make a concentration of  silver greater than 13 ppm,
then
 some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from
 combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound.
Silver
 citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds
of
 silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate.
 
 frank key
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM
 Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
 
 
  Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid?   I am
  not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess.  Is there
  any underlying logic apparent to a chemist?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote:
 
   Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz
   Ionic
   Silver.
  
   Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause
   argyria if
   caution is not exercised in how much is consumed.
  
   Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using  a colloidal
   silver
   generator of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to
   the DI
   water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion
   anion
   when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis.
  
   The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available
   citrate
   anions.
  
  
   frank key
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: CSfw: ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS

2003-09-07 Thread sol
Or it can cause a multitude of problems up to and including death for
those severely allergic to it (iodine).
paula
- Original Message -
From: John Draper jdr...@lisco.com


 For those interested in using iodine for health, I found the
following
 article very useful. I was not aware of some of the benefits
 mentioned here, nor some of the means one can apply it.

 - John





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Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame

2003-09-07 Thread Tony Moody
Hi Ode, 
I would be very pleased to receive any useful recipes. My fav 
tomato soup, a no-name-brand, which seemed to have little or 
none MSG has disappeared off the shelves.

Will look around for info and swop anything interesting.
Tony



   I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do
   like cup-o-
 noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar
 compound MSG. To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed.  ..looking
 into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed.  [with home made broth
 too] 
 
 Ode 
 
 At 12:15 AM 9/7/2003 +0930, you wrote:  
  
 Jack, I can't help but come in here to support Marshall.  By all
 means, go and have a look around at the aspartamegroup at Yahoo.   
 
 Hanneke~Australia 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: CSfw: ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS

2003-09-07 Thread Richard Harris
Orchids to Dr. John Draper for this excellent, informative, important
article re SSKI !
Thanks, Dr. John,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: John Draper [mailto:jdr...@lisco.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:39 PM
To: silver-list
Subject: CSfw: ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM
ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS



For those interested in using iodine for health, I found the following
article very useful. I was not aware of some of the benefits
mentioned here, nor some of the means one can apply it.

- John


from: http://www.tahoma-clinic.com/iodide.shtml

ONE MINERAL CAN HELP A MYRIAD OF CONDITIONS FROM
ATHEROSCLEROSIS TO COPDTO ZITS

(Reprinted From Nutrition and Healing)

If you've read or heard anything at all about potassium
iodide, it's probably been in association with terrorist
attacks or nuclear power plant disasters. Potassium iodide
(usually taken in tablet form) is recommended by public
health authorities to protect the thyroid gland against
accumulation of radioactive iodine released by a terrorist
bomb or by nuclear power plant meltdown. But in reality,
potassium iodide is a very effective home remedy with
literally dozens of uses.

Older readers may remember Mother putting iodine on cuts
and scrapes. It kept infection away as well as any modern
antibiotic ointment, with the added benefit of not inducing
bacterial resistance. But what else is potassium iodide
(usually abbreviated by it's Latin initials SSKI) good
for? Read onÂ…and then make sure to read the separate section
about keeping SSKI use safe.

Some years ago, a retired Indian physician told me about his
use of SSKI during more than 30 years traveling from village
to village in rural Africa. Most usually, the only drinking
water available was from a local stream or river, muddy and
contaminated. After removing sediment and debris by
straining the dirty water through cheesecloth, he'd add
several drops of SSKI, and wait two to three minutes. He and
his team could then drink the water. In over 30 years, he
never got an infection from contaminated water. The SSKI
killed any micro-organisms present.

Fortunately, the water available to most of us when
traveling is considerably cleaner. Despite this, when Holly
(my wife) and I travel, we always carry a small bottle of
SSKI, and put one or two drops into any water we're not
absolutely certain about. We've cut back considerably on
airline travel this year because of the thoroughly
un-American and extremely unpleasant airport Gestapo
experience. But when we're forced to travel by air, we drink
a few ounces of water with 10 drops of SSKI, and prevent any
airline sinusitis or other respiratory infection that so
often follows several hours spent breathing re-cycled, germ
laden air. (SSKI rapidly accumulates in any and all body
secretions, including in the sinuses, where it inhibits or
kills bacteria, viruses, and fungi before they can cause an
infection.)

Although Holly has never had the experience, occasionally
another woman at one of the conferences we attend has
developed a bladder infection when far away from home and
her own physician. Holly gives her our back-up small
bottle of SSKI with instructions to take 10 to 15 drops in
water or juice every 3 to 4 hours (while awake) until the
infection is gone.

[Although SSKI is close to 100% effective in the elimination
of bladder infections, this is a high dose; make sure to
read the section Keeping SSKI safe. If possible, it's best
to use the simple sugar D-mannose to eliminate bladder
infections. D-mannose is effective over 90% of the time, and
is very, very safe. For details, see D-mannose and Bladder
Infection by Lane Lenard Ph.D. and me, available through the
Tahoma Clinic Dispensary.]

When our children were teenagers, they always knew where to
find the SSKI bottle. Whenever one of them popped a zit,
she or he would rub SSKI into it every hour or two. The
offending zit would be gone in 24-48 hours or less; an
innumerable number of social events were rendered zit-free
by this approach.

So far, I've been telling you about SSKI's ability to kill
germs in one place or another. We'll return to this
important home remedy use for SSKI, but let's digress for
now to other uses.

Many women develop fibrocystic breast disease. In the
1970s, I learned from pioneering trace element researcher
Dr. John Myers that iodine (a close relative of SSKI)
would eliminate even the most severe cases of fibrocystic
breast disease. [For the full details of this treatment, see
pages 169-174 of The Patient's Book of Natural Healing by
Alan Gaby M.D. and me.] In medium to minor cases, 6 to 8
drops of SSKI taken in a few ounces of water daily will
frequently reduce fibrocystic breast disease to
insignificance within three to six months. Please do not do
this without monitoring your thyroid functionÂ…see Keeping
SSKI Safe on page whatever.

One of our 

RE: CSPool filters

2003-09-07 Thread Richard Harris
Thanks Ode, for this suggestion. 30 years ago Working with Girl Scouts  Boy
Scouts as we raised our 3 daughters (all First Class)  2 sons (Both Eagles)
instead of boiling water for drinking, we would add an ounce of Chlorox to a
gallon of Water, let it set for 30 minutes to purify, then drink OR we would
add an Iodine tablet to a canteen of water, wait 30 minutes, then drink. The
only problem was unpleasant taste. Since discovering God's gift of CS, upon
being told by Clermont to boil our water to purify it due to broken water
line in our area; we just put 1 oz. CS (10-20 ppm in 1 gallon water, shake,
wait 30 minutes then use as potable water. 100% effective  no unpleasant
taste. I also, suspect the Hydrogen Peroxide might kill the microbes alone;
however, thanks to a tip from many of you wonderful contributors to this
list, I add 5cc (1 teaspoonful) H2O2 to each quart of CS solution  believe
it to be many times more effective that CS alone  without any bad stuff,
such as Chorine.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacict
  -Original Message-
  From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
  Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 7:15 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSPool filters


  A while back I was looking for ways to sterilize water for camping.
  One system used Clorine to kill microbes and Hydrogen peroxide to
neutralize the Chlorine.
  Wassup with this?

  Ode

  At 06:59 PM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
  Many Thanks, Bill, I'll pass this on to my son, a Desert Storm Vet, who
uses
  his 600 gal hottub nightly to overcome much pain. To get away from using
  Chlorine  other harmful products, he's been trying CS, CCu and H2O2
after
  letting the fill water containing Chlorine evaporate overnight. To date
he's
  quite pleased with this, but we continue to look for a better way.
  Hope you find your solution soon.
  If I can help in any way, please let me know. www.rharrisinc.com or
  yr...@cfl.rr.com
  Sincerely,
  Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx]
  Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:06 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSPool filters
  
  
  The Monarca company, located in San Luis Potosi, Mexico, produces a home
  water purification device which is a meter long section of 2-inch PVC
pipe
  containing app. 10-12 2-inch ceramic balls which are permeated with CS.
It
  is immersed in your home water cistern or water tank, and the agitation
of
  incoming water releases the CS from the ceramic balls to purify the
water.
  
  We have been using them in house for about three years (each tube has a
  2-year life span in a 5000 liter tank) with excellent results. Our water
  now comes from a river source of dubious purity, which is run through a
sand
  filtration process before delivery. We've never had the water tested for
  purity, but have used the Monarca CS product, and have not suffered any
  skin, internal afflictions from the water. (This includes brushing teeth
  with it, but not direct consumption).
  
  The Monarca devices are rather pricey for
  Mexico -- about $40 US per tube -- but they have a good life span and do
the
  job.
  
  Hope this helpsBill
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:34 PM
  Subject: RE: CSPool filters
  
  
   Bill, please elucidate further on Monarcha CS Ceramic Flotation device.
   There is a company in Clearwater, FL that makes CS  CU filters for
pools
  
   spas. Expensive to me but might fit your needs.
   Best regards,
   Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx]
   Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:37 PM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: CSPool filters
  
  
   Hi, we're putting in a pool in Southern Mexico which we plan on using
to
   irrigate our fruit trees as well and want to use colloidal silver to
  filter
   it. We're planning on using a colloidal silver ceramic flotation device
  sold
   in Mexico by a company called Monarcha. Does anyone have any experience
  with
   this product or with pools generally? I know this has been discussed
  before
   but, your help would be appreciated. Thanks!
  
  
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Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame

2003-09-07 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Ode,

I am allergic to MSG it takes my blood pressure to over 200.

Look in the Campbell soup line as they have a group that is MSG free and they 
do have chicken noodle soup. I enjoyed a cup several days ago.

Ole Bob

Ode Coyote wrote:

 I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like 
 cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar 
 compound MSG.
 To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed.
 ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made 
 broth too]


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CSLM334Z Current limiter

2003-09-07 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Ya'all,

I have just finished a 24 hour run using Steve Young's LM334Z regulator
and it works like a champ, and it is rock solid.

I will attach the Wplot data. those that have the Wplot16 or 32 can look
at the curves, all others can open the file with your notepad.

Briefly, I set up as near to Steve's process as possible and monitored
cell voltage, cell current and conductivity during the run, and withdrew
two 1 cc samples during the brew to test for PPM (true) and the final
PPM.

At the 8 hr. point Ag+ = 6.16 PPM, At the 17 hr. point Ag+ = 10.56 PPM
The final conc. after stirring the brew is 11.66 PPM.

This process is very susceptible to any motion. I may repeat it with
mechanical stirring.

To give you an example of how your PWT will fool you the conductivity at
the end after stirring was 79.3 uS/cm. and the conc. is 11.66 PPM.

Ole Bob




Steve Young.PLT
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Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Ken, re MSG

2003-09-07 Thread Jack Dayton
Ode Coyote   9/7/03 3:39 AM  Wrote:

 I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like
 cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar
 compound MSG. 
 To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed.
 ..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed.  [with home made
 broth too] 
***
Hi Ken,
I would buy some bennies at the drop
of an opportunity.

Well, MSG (Accent) doesn't have to be a problem -
quite a few years ago a study revealed that the reactions -
Chinese Restaurant Syndrome - could be prevented
with the addition of ( and I don't remember if it
was just one B vitamin, or the B group, but if you
are over 50, I suggest that adding a Balanced B 100  Multiple,
should very shortly, say a week or two, prevent any reaction other
than delight at the ingestion (I looked that up :-) )
of any food using mono sodium glutimate as a flavor enhancer.


Jack

Be Nice


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame

2003-09-07 Thread Jack Dayton
Hanneke   9/6/03 9:03 PM  Wrote:

 You enjoy your diet drinks mate, I'll stick with my water and lemon drinks.
*

WAIT -- you forgot the gin !!

Jack


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CSSilver Citrate and water filters

2003-09-07 Thread Reid Harvey
Frank,
The time may come when we saturate with metalic silver, but only after
we're able to locate this, in very fine sizes.  We will do this
according to location and sustainability.  In the meantime we use CS
because it's relatively easy.

What happens is that after firing the filter it's saturated with
concentrated CS, then allowed to dry.  This leads to the kind of
reaction that you described in your Saturday message, ending up with
silver oxide which is the disinfectant, 'stuck' in the filter medium.

The reason we need a stabilizer, whether silver citrate or whatever
works, is because the concentrated CS will 'go off,' as I'm sure you
know, in the presence of magnetic fields or light, precipitating as
silver oxide.  The stabilizer will prevent this, allowing the CS to be
transported to other filter factories.  Otherwise we need to saturate
immediately after production, or store in a known stabile environment.

Are you aware of other materials we could use as stabilizer?  It is true
that some filter companies mix metalic silver into their moist clay,
then forming, drying and firing, but we can't get their without
procuring the silver then doing a lot of experimentation.  Also the
production oc concentrated CS is sustainable where making the metalic
silver powder may not be.  After all we are not in the industrialized
world, but rather a small corner of South Asia.  And the process must be
replicable in other such countries.
Reid

Frank Key said

 It is not clear to me what you are trying to stabilize.  If you
 saturated a
 water filter with silver citrate, water passing through the filter
 would
 simply wash it away since silver citrate is water soluble.

 It would make more sense to me to impregnate a water filter with
 metallic
 silver.

 frank key




 - Original Message -
 From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np
 To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:56 PM
 Subject: Re: CSWaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate


  Frank,
  Forgive me if I've asked this before.  For the concentrated CS we
 use to
  saturate water filters, could the silver citrate be used as a
  stabilizer, simply adding the stoiciometric amount necessary?  This
  would enable us to ship the CS for saturation of filters in other
 parts
  of the country.
  Reid




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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Ode/Jack/Aspartame/MSG

2003-09-07 Thread Hanneke
MSG is another 'beauty'.  Even though I personally like a savoury taste in my 
soups or other edibles, with MSG I tend to end up with a burning sensation in 
my mouth which undoes all the pleasure of eating  anything with MSG in it. This 
is separate from feeling ill afterwards, with asthma and other respiratory 
problems.
It has become very tricky with both additives (Aspartame and MSG) as processed 
food manufacturers have quite a few loopholes they can use to add the stuff 
anyway.
With Aspartame, if added part is less than 2% it does not have to be on the 
labels. Otherwise they have the right to state: contains 951 and other obscure 
labelling which makes one guess of what it could be; MSG often is a hidden 
ingredient. If and when I want to buy processed foods, I won't get it if 
anything on the labels can't be 'translated' within a split second. Don't have 
that problem when buying fresh (organic) produce.

I learnt the negative effects of the stuff the hard way, with all the 
sweeteners, savoury tasty additions, colourings and whatever else they put in 
foods when my children were still very young (multiple health problems).
 In spite of the pretty rough years when mine weren't given nor allowed (by me) 
to eat certain things any longer, especially when they were teenagers (when 
their friends were allowed EVERYTHING.that's my 'deprived' kids talking),  
I'm thrilled to bits to learn that they are now also very particular and aware 
indeed about foods, probably even more so than I ever was.
Dr. Russell L.Baylock's book: Exito toxins - The Taste that Kills, is 
interesting reading.  Even if it doesn't convince the readers of the poisonous 
effects now, it should stick somewhere in the back of their mind. 

I don't think the arsenice connection with aspartame is correct; aspartame 
heated over 86F, the  wood alcohol (methanol) - formaldehyde - formic acid - 
metabolic acidosis, and chronic methanol toxicity shows up in neurological 
symptoms as in lupus and MS.

Hanneke~Austrarlia



- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest For Jack, re Aspartame


I don't use aspertame simply because it tastes like crap but I do like 
cup-o-noodles type soups..but can't find any that doesn't have the similar 
compound MSG.
To me, That stuff is like doing bad speed. 
..looking into making my own ..er..soups, not bad speed. [with home made 
broth too]

Ode

At 12:15 AM 9/7/2003 +0930, you wrote: 


  Jack, I can't help but come in here to support Marshall. By all means, go 
and have a look around at the aspartamegroup at Yahoo. 

  Hanneke~Australia







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CSCyanosis - the other blue skin disorder

2003-09-07 Thread jrowland
Skin coloration is determined by the amount of
 pigment in the skin and the blood flowing 
through it. Blood that is saturated with oxygen 
is bright red. Blood that has lost its oxygen 
is dark bluish-red. People who have a large 
quantity of blood deficient in oxygen tend to 
take on a bluish discoloration called cyanosis...
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003215.htm
jr


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CSRe: silver-digest Ode/Jack/Aspartame/MSG

2003-09-07 Thread jrowland
 ...with all the sweeteners, savoury tasty additions, 
 colourings and whatever else they put in foods...---Hanneke
Yep, gave up on a favorite treat, chicken-pot-pie, after finally 
noticing propylene glycol in the ingredients list.  When I called
the manufacturer to ask what anti-freeze was doing in my food,
was told it helps with the consistancy/texture...and besides,
there's not that much of it in the product.
Nice official explanation:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts96.html
jr


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Re: CSanti freeze, yummy! NOT

2003-09-07 Thread mamapug
Propylene glycol is in soda pop, too, like Squirt.
It is sweet, that is why pets drink it, and then die...
Marshalee

  ...with all the sweeteners, savoury tasty additions, 
  colourings and whatever else they put in foods...---Hanneke
 Yep, gave up on a favorite treat, chicken-pot-pie, after finally 
 noticing propylene glycol in the ingredients list.  When I called
 the manufacturer to ask what anti-freeze was doing in my food,
 was told it helps with the consistancy/texture...and besides,
 there's not that much of it in the product.
 Nice official explanation:
 http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts96.html
 jr



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CSCS Metallic Taste

2003-09-07 Thread S J Young
Most of us can detect the distinct metallic taste of CS products.  What are
we tasting - the ions, the particles (colloids), or both?
--Steve Y.



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CSFwd: Re: Argyria

2003-09-07 Thread Lew FH
Greetings

I have emailed the the lady with Argyria.It is up to her and her conscience now.

With regards
  Lew

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Cc: 


Dear Madam,

As a doctor, medically, I regret I have no means of any 
help to you. But if you care to follow the scientific trend on photonic bandgap 
food with colorants,perhaps you may find some relief for your present
predicament.

   
http://lewfh.tripod.com/coloursarecodedfrequenciesinphotonicbandgapcrystalstructures/


With regards
  Dr.FHLew
[ Malaysia ]



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