Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings
The CS or the pot? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 06/14/08 18:39:34 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found. Ode
CSBottles and things
Just to say that your suggestion of using some of the last batch to start the next one, worked well Sol, so thanks for that. It took two hours off the time. Also just to update on the weird bottle thing; I rinsed out the offending bottle (the one which turned the CS pale greeny gold) I boiled it in DW (thanks Ode) and hey presto, the next lot I put in it is absolutely fine! I'm thinking it may have been a teeny bit of detergent or something that got left, although I did rinse with DW but maybe not thoroughly enough. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVaccines and autism.
This one's for Ode, INFANT PRIMATES GIVEN VACCINES ON U.S. CHILDREN'S IMMUNIZATION SCHEDULE DEVELOP BEHAVIORAL SYMPTOMS OF AUTISM _http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/press051908.php_ (http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/press051908.php) GROUNDBREAKING RESEARCH PROVIDES EVEN MORE SCIENCE SUPPORTING THE THEORY THAT VACCINES CAN AND DO CAUSE AUTISM Nixa, MO - A primate model for autism using the U.S. children's immunization schedule was unveiled at the International Meeting For Autism Research (IMFAR) this weekend. The research underscores the critical need for studies into vaccine safety and the immune and mitochondrial dysfunction of autistic children. The National Autism Association (NAA) questions why the government hasn' t undertaken these vital studies and why researchers have had to depend on private money to perform this critical science that will surely impact the health of millions of children worldwide. While the authors and organizations associated with this study are withholding comment until publication, University of Pittsburgh's Dr. Laura Hewitson, Ph.D., described at the IMFAR meeting how vaccinated animals, when compared to unvaccinated animals, showed significant neurodevelopmental deficits and significant associations between specific aberrant social and non-social behaviors, isotope binding, and vaccine exposure. Researchers also reported at the scientific meeting that vaccinated animals exhibited progressively severe chronic active inflammation whereas unexposed animals did not and found many significant differences in the GI tissue gene expression profiles between vaccinated and unvaccinated animals. Gastrointestinal issues are a common symptom of children with regressive autism. NAA calls for the NIH to conduct large scale, non-epidemiological studies into the biomedical symptoms surrounding young children and all vaccines, including those containing the mercury-based preservative thimerosal and other additives like aluminum. This request for further research echoes that of Dr. Bernadine Healy, Former NIH Director in a CBS interview earlier this week. I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as 'irrational,' without sufficient studies of causation... without studying the population that got sick, Healy said. I have not seen major studies that focus on 300 kids who got autistic symptoms within a period of a few weeks of the vaccines. Recently the government's vaccine court conceded the case of Hannah Poling, admitting that vaccines triggered her regression into autism by exacerbating mitochondrial dysfunction. The recent Poling case and this new research provide further evidence that the CDC has fallen down on their job to protect children from harm. The biomedical research to date suggests that parental reports of regression following vaccination is not only plausible, but likely in certain individuals, said Scott Bono, NAA Chairman. To date, the CDC has conducted no safety testing on the possible harmful effects of simultaneously administering multiple vaccines to infants, and has steadfastly refused to state a preference for mercury-free vaccines to be given to children and pregnant women. It's time for HHS and Congress to step in and take vaccine safety away from the CDC. On June 4th, parents of vaccine-injured children will rally for toxin-free immunizations in Washington, DC. For more information visit _www.nationalautism.org_ (http://www.nationalautism.org/) . - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:32 AM Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings How are people screwing up your genes? What I was suggesting was the value and wisdom of preventing already screwed up genes from being passed down. Ode And I don't think *anyone* has the right to screw up my genes without my knowledge and consent. But it is being done, on purpose anyway. Sometimes I wonder why I bother voting, except maybe to be heard from. kathryn On Jun 13, 2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVaccines and autism.
The point was that it is not the mercury that is causing the problems. On Jun 15, 2008, at 8:21 AM, bbanever wrote: This one's for Ode, INFANT PRIMATES GIVEN VACCINES ON U.S. CHILDREN'S IMMUNIZATION SCHEDULE DEVELOP BEHAVIORAL SYMPTOMS OF AUTISM _http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/press051908.php_ (http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/press051908.php) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme
Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other bottle all at once. At that my generator arrived so I made a batch and started taking it at the rate of four ounces every twenty minutes. I figured if it killed me it was for the better. What happened was on the third day of this regimen I awoke in the middle of the night with a vigorous feeling of well being. The Lyme was gone but a long recovery was ahead as all the damage wasn't over. Incidently I had seen a doctor just before this and he took blood for testing at my insistance and it came back positive with two bands, after the CS I went back for another Lyme test and It came back negative. Dave Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am a new member. I am trying to find out info about Lyme and how to use the silver, with diatamatious earth to get rid of Lyme I have also gotten info about the terminator zapper. Has anyone had success using these products to get rid of Lyme. I am presently taking the cumanda and burber protocol. How do you read arhives with this site. I was referred by Wolfcreek, suppliers of diatamaitous earth Thanks -Original Message- From: oha...@juno.com [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to use site The site you are in touch with - silver-list@eskimo.com - the archives are down so all you have to do is to pose a question on what you would like information on and there are many of us here ready to assist - Regards Sandee Peace is easy . . . It is a mind set www.aliveagaingrenada.com Find solutions for your business. Click here and get it done now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m7tDKQye1Rg2PomdGA7QaMdGv d89txoB8fUp6BSWnYpfhIE/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted
Re: CSVaccines and autism.
I didn't think it said this at all. I thought it didn't dismiss this but that the whole vaccine thing needed to be more thoroughly researched, with *all* its components. Being that mercury is a neurotoxin I still think that the most likely cause. Have you seen the Mercola video where it shows mercury destroying nerve cells in a slug? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 06/15/08 16:17:58 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccines and autism. The point was that it is not the mercury that is causing the problems. On Jun 15, 2008, at 8:21 AM, bbanever wrote:
CSHydrogen Peroxide, teeth, brighteners
I've received a copy of the voiceanalysis newsletter www.VoiceBio.com/products.php I can't give you a link to the information, as the newsletter is sent out, not put on the site. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Information4U This is the item I thought would be interesting to list members here: I learned something very fascinating this week. I had a consultation with a young lady who had nutritional microscopy, which is looking at a sample of blood under a microscope immediately after it is taken from the finger. I was looking at the video of her test and noticed that she had large globules of what looked like oxygen drops in her blood. The significance of this is the fact that these globules would impair the flow of red blood cells in the body and may, in fact, lead to possible lung, heart and other oxygen related tissues. I asked her if she was taking a source of oxygen in the form of hydrogen peroxide, which is common for someone attempting to get additional oxygen in the body. Much to my surprise, she was not doing that but I knew she was doing something. Finally, she told me that she was using a mouthwash that had hydrogen peroxide as a whitener. I would suggest to all of you reading this not to use any teeth brighteners that contain hydrogen peroxide. Afterwards, I was talking to a patient who is also a respiratory therapist. She was surprised and taken aback of the finding I suggested due to the potential for lung or respiratory challenges. As a matter of fact, I have additionally read articles suggesting that brighteners may also be taking the enamel off your teeth. I would strongly encourage you not to use any brighteners. I have found from experience that one of the leading causes of yellow teeth is a low thyroid. Do you have cold hands and feet? Are you fatigued? Do you wake with a headache that wears off as the day goes on; losing the outer portion of your eyebrows? These are all signs to me that your thyroid may not be up to par. www.VoiceBio.com/products.php for our colloidal iodine, EnerG-Iodine.
Re: CSHydrogen Peroxide, teeth, brighteners
Very interesting. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Rowena Date: 15/06/2008 17:30:07 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHydrogen Peroxide, teeth, brighteners I've received a copy of the voiceanalysis newsletter www.VoiceBio com/products.php I can't give you a link to the information, as the newsletter is sent out, not put on the site. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Information4U This is the item I thought would be interesting to list members here:
RE: CSDesperately need help with Lyme
What is the Doup Plus that Carol used.. -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other bottle all at once. At that my generator arrived so I made a batch and started taking it at the rate of four ounces every twenty minutes. I figured if it killed me it was for the better. What happened was on the third day of this regimen I awoke in the middle of the night with a vigorous feeling of well being. The Lyme was gone but a long recovery was ahead as all the damage wasn't over. Incidently I had seen a doctor just before this and he took blood for testing at my insistance and it came back positive with two bands, after the CS I went back for another Lyme test and It came back negative. Dave Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am a new member. I am trying to find out info about Lyme and how to use the silver, with diatamatious earth to get rid of Lyme I have also gotten info about the terminator zapper. Has anyone had success using these products to get rid of Lyme. I am presently taking the cumanda and burber protocol. How do you read arhives with this site. I was referred by Wolfcreek, suppliers of diatamaitous earth Thanks -Original Message- From: oha...@juno.com [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to use site The site you are in touch with - silver-list@eskimo.com - the archives are down so all you have to do is to pose a question on what you would like information on and there are many of us here ready to assist - Regards Sandee Peace is easy . . . It is a mind set www.aliveagaingrenada.com Find solutions for your business. Click here and get it done now!
CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other bottle all at once. At that my generator arrived so I made a batch and started taking it at the rate of four ounces every twenty minutes. I figured if it killed me it was for the better. What happened was on the third day of this regimen I awoke in the middle of the night with a vigorous feeling of well being. The Lyme was gone but a long recovery was ahead as all the damage wasn't over. Incidently I had seen a doctor just before this and he took blood for testing at my insistance and it came back positive with two bands, after the CS I went back for another Lyme test and It came back negative. Dave Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am a new member. I am trying to find out info about Lyme and how to use the silver, with diatamatious earth to get rid of Lyme I have also gotten info about the terminator zapper. Has anyone had success using these products to get rid of Lyme. I am presently taking the cumanda and burber protocol. How do you read arhives with this site. I was referred by Wolfcreek, suppliers of diatamaitous earth Thanks -Original Message- From: oha...@juno.com [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to use site The site you are in touch with - silver-list@eskimo.com - the archives are down so all you have to do is to pose a question on what you would like information on and there are many of us
RE: CSVaccines and autism. -- Vets and multi-shots
A friend took her English Spaniel to the Vets, who gave ALL shots on the same visit. The dog became very ill, lethargic, changed personality, I think a blood disease -- etc. The animal seemed totally overwhelmed. The Vet said not to breed her anymore (shed had only one litter.) Soon after, he told her that this was becoming a somewhat common problem, and Vets were discussing dropping the practice of multi-shots at a single visit. Her Vet already has stopped. (Hes my cats doctor too, so I know the truth of that.) I wonder if this isnt something that needs to be researched in children. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccines and autism. I didn't think it said this at all. I thought it didn't dismiss this but that the whole vaccine thing needed to be more thoroughly researched, with *all* its components. Being that mercury is a neurotoxin I still think that the most likely cause. Have you seen the Mercola video where it shows mercury destroying nerve cells in a slug? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family mailto:clay...@skypoint.com Date: 06/15/08 16:17:58 To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccines and autism. The point was that it is not the mercury that is causing the problems. On Jun 15, 2008, at 8:21 AM, bbanever wrote:
CSPain and depression with Lyme
I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other bottle all at once. At that my generator arrived so I made a batch and started taking it at the rate of four ounces every twenty minutes. I figured if it killed me it was for the better. What happened was on the third day of this regimen I awoke in the middle of the night with a vigorous feeling of well being. The Lyme was gone but a long recovery was ahead as all the damage wasn't over. Incidently I had seen a doctor just before this and he took blood for testing at my insistance and it came back positive with two bands, after the CS I went back for another Lyme test and It came back negative. Dave Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am a new member. I am trying to find out info about Lyme and how to use the silver, with diatamatious earth to get rid of Lyme I have also gotten info about the terminator zapper. Has anyone had success using these products to get rid of Lyme. I am presently taking the cumanda and burber protocol. How do you read arhives with this site. I was referred by Wolfcreek, suppliers of diatamaitous earth Thanks -Original Message- From: oha...@juno.com [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to use site The site you are in touch with - silver-list@eskimo.com - the archives are down so all you have to do is to pose a question on what you would like information on and there are many of us here ready to assist - Regards Sandee Peace is easy . . . It is a mind set www.aliveagaingrenada.com
Re: CSVaccines and autism.
there was a very good study looking at the mercury connection, and it was ruled out. There are people that have reactions to the thimerosol (mercury) in the vaccines, but that is not necessarily the same thing. There are a whole ton of things that are poisonous to the nervous system, and there may be several different ones in any given vaccine. Mercury is only one possibility. Mercury is definitely poisonous, and neurotoxic. That does not mean that it is the main problem. On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Dee wrote: I didn't think it said this at all. I thought it didn't dismiss this but that the whole vaccine thing needed to be more thoroughly researched, with *all* its components. Being that mercury is a neurotoxin I still think that the most likely cause. Have you seen the Mercola video where it shows mercury destroying nerve cells in a slug? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 06/15/08 16:17:58 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccines and autism. The point was that it is not the mercury that is causing the problems. On Jun 15, 2008, at 8:21 AM, bbanever wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
I am in the camp of Low Voltage Ionic silver myself. Yes, one atom is as small as one can get. I have a homemade set up using 9 volt batteries, wires, pure silver wires and a current limiter (potentiometer). It is low tech, but makes good silver. If you want one that turns itself off, the silverpuppy is one that I have heard alot of good about, it is inexpensive, and a real workhorse. www.silverpuppy.com If you want to make one yourself, you might want to get a COM 100 meter to check the quality of your distilled water before you start. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
Is there anyone who lives in the Nashville, TN area. Please let me know -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I am in the camp of Low Voltage Ionic silver myself. Yes, one atom is as small as one can get. I have a homemade set up using 9 volt batteries, wires, pure silver wires and a current limiter (potentiometer). It is low tech, but makes good silver. If you want one that turns itself off, the silverpuppy is one that I have heard alot of good about, it is inexpensive, and a real workhorse. www.silverpuppy.com If you want to make one yourself, you might want to get a COM 100 meter to check the quality of your distilled water before you start. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
Mary Ellen -- I'm about two hours west of there, in the Paducah KY area. ?? MA -- Original message from "Mary Ellen Murphy" maryelle...@bellsouth.net: -- Is there anyone who lives in the Nashville, TN area. Please let me know -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I am in the camp of Low Voltage Ionic silver myself. Yes, one atom is as small as one can get. I have a homemade set up using 9 volt batteries, wires, pure silver wires and a current limiter (potentiometer). It is low tech, but makes good silver. If you want one that turns itself off, the silverpuppy is one that I have heard alot of good about, it is inexpensive, and a real workhorse. www.silverpuppy.com If you want to make one yourself, you might want to get a COM 100 meter to check the quality of your distilled water before you start. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your messag e to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSHydrogen Peroxide, teeth, brighteners
interesting indeed. I have been brushing my teeth by taking a sip of H2O2, then brushing. It's keeping my gums from infection, and I don't notice anything elsebeen doing this for about 2 years.. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Very interesting. Dee *---Original Message---* *From:* Rowena new...@aapt.net.au *Date:* 15/06/2008 17:30:07 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* CSHydrogen Peroxide, teeth, brighteners I've received a copy of the voiceanalysis newsletter www.VoiceBio.com/products.php http://www.voicebio.com/products.php I can't give you a link to the information, as the newsletter is sent out, not put on the site. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Information4U This is the item I thought would be interesting to list members here: -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
CSNashville, TN
Do you have Lyme Disease. I am not doing well with this and all the different protocols that don't seem to work _ From: marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Mary Ellen -- I'm about two hours west of there, in the Paducah KY area. ?? MA -- Original message from Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net: -- Is there anyone who lives in the Nashville, TN area. Please let me know -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I am in the camp of Low Voltage Ionic silver myself. Yes, one atom is as small as one can get. I have a homemade set up using 9 volt batteries, wires, pure silver wires and a current limiter (potentiometer). It is low tech, but makes good silver. If you want one that turns itself off, the silverpuppy is one that I have heard alot of good about, it is inexpensive, and a real workhor! se. www.silverpuppy.com If you want to make one yourself, you might want to get a COM 100 meter to check the quality of your distilled water before you start. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your! messag e to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSNashville, TN
No. But I was bitten by a Lyme tick about six weeks ago, and did go to the doctor for antibiotics which I am now in the process of taking. I did post a reply to you onlist about this. I have a paper that my doctor gave me about Lyme disease, and it states that oral antibiotics are effective in the early stage -- late-stage Lyme requires intravenous antibiotics. Have you been to a doctor? Have intravenous antibioticsbeen suggested? MA -- Original message from "Mary Ellen Murphy" maryelle...@bellsouth.net: -- Do you have Lyme Disease. I am not doing well with this and all the different protocols that dont seem to work From: marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:22 PMTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Mary Ellen -- I'm about two hours west of there, in the Paducah KY area. ?? MA -- Original message from "Mary Ellen Murphy" maryelle...@bellsouth.net: -- Is there anyone who lives in the Nashville, TN area. Please let me know -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I am in the camp of Low Voltage Ionic silver myself. Yes, one atom is as small as one can get. I have a homemade set up using 9 volt batteries, wires, pure silver wires and a current limiter (potentiometer). It is low tech, but m akes good silver. If you want one that turns itself off, the silverpuppy is one that I have heard alot of good about, it is inexpensive, and a real workhor! se. www.silverpuppy.com If you want to make one yourself, you might want to get a COM 100 meter to check the quality of your distilled water before you start. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your! messag e to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSNashville, TN
Yes, I was very ill on thme Iv and oral and my doctor took me off of them. Don't thik I go your first e-mail sorry. My brain does not work to good. I am in real bad shape. I hafe tried many protocols and not getting better. I just don't know where to turn. Have you taken the colloidal silver Mary Ellen _ From: marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNashville, TN No. But I was bitten by a Lyme tick about six weeks ago, and did go to the doctor for antibiotics which I am now in the process of taking. I did post a reply to you onlist about this. I have a paper that my doctor gave me about Lyme disease, and it states that oral antibiotics are effective in the early stage -- late-stage Lyme requires intravenous antibiotics. Have you been to a doctor? Have intravenous antibiotics been suggested? MA -- Original message from Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net: -- Do you have Lyme Disease. I am not doing well with this and all the different protocols that don't seem to work _ From: marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Mary Ellen -- I'm about two hours west of there, in the Paducah KY area. ?? MA -- Original message from Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net: -- Is there anyone who lives in the Nashville, TN area. Please let me know -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I am in the camp of Low Voltage Ionic silver myself. Yes, one atom is as small as one can get. I have a homemade set up using 9 volt batteries, wires, pure silver wires and a current limiter (potentiometer). It is low tech! , but m akes good silver. If you want one that turns itself off, the silverpuppy is one that I have heard alot of good about, it is inexpensive, and a real workhor! se. www.silverpuppy.com If you want to make one yourself, you might want to get a COM 100 meter to check the quality of your distilled water before you start. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -- The Silver Li! st is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your! messag e to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSVaccines and autism.
Removing mercury and adding aspartame doesn't change a thing in the vaccines. If anything it makes them more toxic, from one neuro-toxin to the other. What in the world would be the point of adding a sweetener to something that is administered to your bloodstream?? Vaccines are nothing more than poulation/mind control/eugenics, that's what they're all about. Kurt Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: there was a very good study looking at the mercury connection, and it was ruled out. There are people that have reactions to the thimerosol (mercury) in the vaccines, but that is not necessarily the same thing. There are a whole ton of things that are poisonous to the nervous system, and there may be several different ones in any given vaccine. Mercury is only one possibility. Mercury is definitely poisonous, and neurotoxic. That does not mean that it is the main problem. On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Dee wrote: I didn't think it said this at all. I thought it didn't dismiss this but that the whole vaccine thing needed to be more thoroughly researched, with *all* its components. Being that mercury is a neurotoxin I still think that the most likely cause. Have you seen the Mercola video where it shows mercury destroying nerve cells in a slug? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 06/15/08 16:17:58 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccines and autism. The point was that it is not the mercury that is causing the problems. On Jun 15, 2008, at 8:21 AM, bbanever wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme
Stop trying to do it all by yourself Mary Ellen. Many here tried to send you over to lymestragies, and we are still waiting for you to show up! We have 1,800 lymies there, already been through what you are going through, so come on over. Yes, pain and depression are lyme related and they both suck! Kurt Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other bottle all at once. At that my generator arrived so I made a batch and started taking it at the rate of four ounces every twenty minutes. I figured if it killed me it was for the better. What happened was on the third day of this regimen I awoke in the middle of the night with a vigorous feeling of well being. The Lyme was gone but a long recovery was ahead as all the damage wasn't over. Incidently I had seen a doctor just before this and he took blood for testing at my insistance and it came back positive with two bands, after the CS I went back for another Lyme test and It came back negative. Dave Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am a new member. I am trying to find out info about Lyme and how to use the silver, with diatamatious earth to get rid of Lyme I have also gotten info about the terminator zapper. Has anyone had success using these products to get rid of Lyme. I am presently taking the cumanda and burber protocol. How do you read arhives with this site. I was referred by Wolfcreek, suppliers of diatamaitous earth Thanks -Original Message-
CSvaccine dangers
take all of the bad ingredients out of vaccines and you have no vaccine. mercury, aluminum, anti-freeze, pus, endless list of danger. visit vaclib.org. phone numbers of pharma companies who are obliged, by law,if you care to check with them on the ingredients in their vaccines. there are forms on this site that will excuse your child from vaccines at school. besides, there is nothing in my constitution that says my government (public schools) can put a foreign substance into my body.personally, i got my multiple sclerosis within a week of a vaccine. my step-grandson (3 months old) died few days after vaccine. think of your pets as well. vaccines upset their auto-immune systems as well. muttmom vicki hood
Re: CSvaccine dangers
You got MS from the spirochetes they put into the vaccines. Check this link out: http://www.shoptown.com/Dean/ALS2Lyme.htm You may want to get yoursefl on a lyme protocol as well, many folks who treat lyme induced MS partly or fully recover. Kurt Vicki hood mutt...@isp.com wrote: take all of the bad ingredients out of vaccines and you have no vaccine. mercury, aluminum, anti-freeze, pus, endless list of danger. visit vaclib.org. phone numbers of pharma companies who are obliged, by law,if you care to check with them on the ingredients in their vaccines. there are forms on this site that will excuse your child from vaccines at school. besides, there is nothing in my constitution that says my government (public schools) can put a foreign substance into my body.personally, i got my multiple sclerosis within a week of a vaccine. my step-grandson (3 months old) died few days after vaccine. think of your pets as well. vaccines upset their auto-immune systems as well. muttmom vicki hood -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHydrogen Peroxide, teeth, brighteners
Lots of folk use hydrogen peroxide as a supplement with excellent results. Been reading about it for years. I think the newsletter contains a misdiagnosis, and should be taken with a grain of salt. Chuck Gosh, that takes me back...or forward. That's the trouble with time travel, you never can tell. On 6/15/2008 2:23:09 PM, Day Sutton (day.sut...@gmail.com) wrote: interesting indeed. I have been brushing my teeth by taking a sip of H2O2, then brushing. It's keeping my gums from infection, and I don't notice anything elsebeen doing this for about 2 years.. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 PM
CSUnderstanding Food Irradiation
Understanding Food Irradiation http://www.centerfo rfoodsafety. org/food_ irrad.cfm What is Food Irradiation? Food irradiation uses high-energy Gamma rays, electron beams, or X-rays (all of which are millions of times more powerful than standard medical X-rays) to break apart the bacteria and insects that can hide in meat, grains, and other foods. Radiation can do strange things to food, by creating substances called unique radiolytic products. These irradiation byproducts include a variety of mutagens - substances that can cause gene mutations, polyploidy (an abnormal condition in which cells contain more than two sets of chromosomes) , chromosome aberrations (often associated with cancerous cells), and dominant lethal mutations (a change in a cell that prevents it from reproducing) in human cells. Making matters worse, many mutagens are also carcinogens. Research also shows that irradiation forms volatile toxic chemicals such as benzene and toluene, chemicals known or suspected to cause cancer and birth defects. Irradiation also causes stunted growth in lab animals fed irradiated foods. An important 2001 study linked colon tumor promotion in lab rats to 2-alkylcyclobutanon es (2-ACB's), a new chemical compound found only in irradiated foods. The FDA has never tested the safety of these byproducts. Irradiation has also been shown to cause the low-level production of furans (similar to cancer-causing dioxins) in fruit juice. FDA to Weaken Labeling on Food Irradiation The FDA has announced a rule to weaken labeling restrictions of irradiated foods. Currently, irradiated food must be labeled as Treated with irradiation or Treated by radiation and must display the irradiated radura symbol. But now, in yet another attempt to appease industry at the expense of the public, the FDA has proposed a new rule that would allow irradiated food to be marketed in some cases without any labeling at all. In other cases, the rule would allow the terms electronically pasteurized or cold pasteurized to replace the use of irradiated on labels. These terms are not used by scientists, but rather are designed to fool consumers about what's been done to their food. Food Safety Concerns In addition to the proposed weakening of the labeling requirements for irradiated food, FDA's rule would also severely limit them by requiring companies to label irradiated food only when the radiation treatment causes a 'material change' to the product. Examples include changes to the taste, texture, smell or shelf life of a food. Published research on irradiated foods reveals that irradiation does change, and can actually ruin, the flavor, odor, appearance, and texture of food. Such research repeatedly finds that irradiated foods smell rotten, metallic, bloody, burnt, grassy, and generally off. The taste has been described as like sulfur, singed hair, burnt feathers, burnt oil, and rancid fat. Beyond the obvious yuck factor, serious questions remain as to whether irradiated foods are safe to eat. Irradiation Destroys the Vitamin Content of Foods Irradiated foods can lose from 2-95% of their vitamins. For example, irradiation can destroy up to 80% of the vitamin A in eggs, up to 95% of the vitamin A and lutein in green beans, up to 50% of the vitamin A and lutein in broccoli, and 40% of the beta-carotene in orange juice. Irradiation also doubles the amount of trans fats in beef. Despite 50 years of research, food scientists still do not fully understand how these changes take place. Much of the ongoing research, in fact, is focused on devising new ways to hide these changes, rather than addressing the cause of the changes themselves. Irradiation is Not the Solution to Food-Borne Illness Using recent food-contamination scandals as a springboard, irradiation has been touted as the solution to food-borne illness in everything from spinach to deli meats. But a good, hard look at the systemic food and agricultural problems that cause these tragic outbreaks in the first place has yet to be undertaken by government agencies. Masks the Unsanitary Condition of Factory Farms Irradiation is an after the fact solution that does nothing to address the unsanitary conditions of factory farms, and actually creates a disincentive for producers and handlers to take preventative steps in production in handling. The longer shelf life created by irradiation (affording longer shipping distances) also provides greater opportunity for post-treatment contamination via shipping, handling, etc. Additionally, irradiation does not work to stop toxins produced by some bacteria (like botulism); viruses, like foot and mouth disease or hepatitis, are resistant to the irradiation doses used in food; and prions (thought to be the cause of BSE, or Mad Cow disease) are resistant as well. Contributes to Consolidation of the Agriculture Industry and the Globalization of Food
RE: CSDesperately need help with Lyme
Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDesperately need help with Lyme What is the Doup Plus that Carol used.. -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other bottle all at once. At that my generator arrived so I made a batch and started taking it at the rate of four ounces every twenty minutes. I figured if it killed me it was for the better. What happened was on the third day of this regimen I awoke in the middle of the night with a vigorous feeling of well being. The Lyme was gone but a long recovery was ahead as all the damage wasn't over. Incidently I had seen a doctor just before this and he took blood for testing at my insistance and it came back positive with two bands, after the CS I went back for another Lyme test and It came back negative. Dave Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am a new member. I am trying to find out info about Lyme and how to use the silver, with diatamatious earth to get rid of Lyme I have also gotten info about the terminator zapper. Has anyone had success using these products to get rid of Lyme. I am presently taking the cumanda and burber protocol. How do you read arhives with this site. I was referred by Wolfcreek, suppliers of diatamaitous earth Thanks -Original Message- From: oha...@juno.com [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to use site The site you are in touch with - silver-list@eskimo.com - the archives are down so all you have to do is to pose a question on what you would
RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other bottle all at once. At that my generator arrived so I made a batch and started taking it at the rate of four ounces every twenty minutes. I figured if it killed me it was for the better. What happened was on the third day of this regimen I awoke in the middle of the night with a vigorous feeling of well being. The Lyme was gone but a long recovery was ahead as all the damage wasn't over. Incidently I had seen a doctor just before this and he took blood for testing at my insistance and it came back positive with two bands, after the CS I went back for another Lyme test and It came back negative. Dave Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am a new member. I am trying to find out info about Lyme and how to use the silver, with diatamatious earth to get rid of Lyme I have also gotten info
Re: CSvaccine dangers
That is such a trajedy. My son became seriously ill after the dpt vac, and they would not listen to me until I was screaming at them and threatening to turn them all in. That got their attention, and the doc finally returned my call. I think the nurses were trained to not allow anyone to talk to the doctors directly. I am convinced he would have died if I had followed their advice and ignored his symptoms, and continued to give him the shots on their schedule. I later read a book on the pertussis vaccine, and many many children died of so-called SIDS just after getting the pertussis vaccine. Their symptoms were identical to my son's symptoms. --kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Vicki hood wrote: take all of the bad ingredients out of vaccines and you have no vaccine. mercury, aluminum, anti-freeze, pus, endless list of danger. visit vaclib.org. phone numbers of pharma companies who are obliged, by law,if you care to check with them on the ingredients in their vaccines. there are forms on this site that will excuse your child from vaccines at school. besides, there is nothing in my constitution that says my government (public schools) can put a foreign substance into my body. personally, i got my multiple sclerosis within a week of a vaccine. my step-grandson (3 months old) died few days after vaccine. think of your pets as well. vaccines upset their auto-immune systems as well. muttmom vicki hood -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme
And it does not help that many docs view depression as not part of the problem, in my opinion caused by maybe spirochetes in the brain, and/or brain poisons put out by the bugs. Yes, it surely can be, so don't fall for it. Repetitive thinking can be definitely caused by physical ailments. There was one preliminary study that showed the parasites that cause cat scratch fever (toxoplasmosis?) are killed by several psychology medications, as well as anti parasitics. They were going to try treating people with bi-polar disorder with antiparasitics and see if it helped them. There is a serious probability that many so-called psychological complaints are actually parasitic, or toxic in nature. You may have limited energy. It may feel overwhelming, but you can do it. Just get through one day at a time. I still keep lists of what I need to do each day (supplements to take, and when to take them), so I don't forget something important. Hang in there. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
I beg to differ, at least in principle. An ion is smaller than a stable particle of any element. Don't confuse the poor girl. I respect Frank Key's work, but this is getting to a nitpicking point that she may be too sick to understand. Ionically isolated silver is going to be the most reasonable solution. I am not arguing with your statement about the small size being more effective, but it is moot to argue about nanometers when one is talking about ions. My generator certainly produces ions, which are the smallest pieces of silver that can exist. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Jim Meissner yahoo wrote: Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
Dear Kathryn: but it is moot to argue about nanometers when one is talking about ions Mary Ellen used the word atoms. There are ions, atoms and particles and they are different things. I do not think it is nick picking when someone uses the wrong words. An ion is an incomplete atom and yes it will be smaller than an atom. Most homemade generators produce mostly ions. My version produces more than 90% ions. Depending on the generator, voltage, current, salt, and many other variables the particles produced could be very large. When taking a teaspoon a day that may not make any difference. When taking 32 ounces a day as Carol did, then in my opinion, it becomes very important. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I beg to differ, at least in principle. An ion is smaller than a stable particle of any element. Don't confuse the poor girl. I respect Frank Key's work, but this is getting to a nitpicking point that she may be too sick to understand. Ionically isolated silver is going to be the most reasonable solution. I am not arguing with your statement about the small size being more effective, but it is moot to argue about nanometers when one is talking about ions. My generator certainly produces ions, which are the smallest pieces of silver that can exist. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Jim Meissner yahoo wrote: Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
What are some other generators that are Ionic silver -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I beg to differ, at least in principle. An ion is smaller than a stable particle of any element. Don't confuse the poor girl. I respect Frank Key's work, but this is getting to a nitpicking point that she may be too sick to understand. Ionically isolated silver is going to be the most reasonable solution. I am not arguing with your statement about the small size being more effective, but it is moot to argue about nanometers when one is talking about ions. My generator certainly produces ions, which are the smallest pieces of silver that can exist. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Jim Meissner yahoo wrote: Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPain and depression with Lyme
Thank you I am using diatomatious earth for the parasites. I know they can be a big problems also. What can be done about the herx when doing the salt/ C protocol. How slowly should you start. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme And it does not help that many docs view depression as not part of the problem, in my opinion caused by maybe spirochetes in the brain, and/or brain poisons put out by the bugs. Yes, it surely can be, so don't fall for it. Repetitive thinking can be definitely caused by physical ailments. There was one preliminary study that showed the parasites that cause cat scratch fever (toxoplasmosis?) are killed by several psychology medications, as well as anti parasitics. They were going to try treating people with bi-polar disorder with antiparasitics and see if it helped them. There is a serious probability that many so-called psychological complaints are actually parasitic, or toxic in nature. You may have limited energy. It may feel overwhelming, but you can do it. Just get through one day at a time. I still keep lists of what I need to do each day (supplements to take, and when to take them), so I don't forget something important. Hang in there. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
...at that page, the link to see a pic of the generator doesn't work. i want to see inside the box of a 3vdc constant polarity machine to see what's costing $200. EIS/CS forms silver ions in solution which are single atoms of silver... but they're not metallic particles until they happen to get together. the particulate portion of EIS/CS varies in particle size, some of them surely being as small as is possible, but they tend to grow over time eventually falling out. so then we come back to which works, particles or ions? or which works best? again again, ad nauseum. -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other
RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
Dear Bob: Thank you, you are right, the link does not work. I will email my web guy. The generator consists of a battery box, two AA batteries, one 4.7 K ohm resistor and two # 12 AWG .999 silver wires and a Teflon sleeve. It takes about an hour to make. Total manufacturing cost is less than $50. For a while I was selling plans for $10 for people to make their own. No one has bought the plans. I have sold quite a few of generators. I have plans and instruction of how to make lots of things on my EnergyPulser yahoo group but the interesting thing is that only 1 out of 100 are actually able build something. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial ...at that page, the link to see a pic of the generator doesn't work. i want to see inside the box of a 3vdc constant polarity machine to see what's costing $200. EIS/CS forms silver ions in solution which are single atoms of silver... but they're not metallic particles until they happen to get together. the particulate portion of EIS/CS varies in particle size, some of them surely being as small as is possible, but they tend to grow over time eventually falling out. so then we come back to which works, particles or ions? or which works best? again again, ad nauseum. -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message-
Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme- herx?
You are welcome. I have not done the salt/C protocol, however, I have had a little experience with the herx from other things. For me, sweating helps enormously, and it is important to get the sweat off ASAP. Sauna is the best, but a hot bath with salt in it is what I usually do. Even sitting in a hot car for awhile will work. If you are sweating alot, it can be important to replace electrolytes, like sodium potassium, also magnesium, and calcium to a lesser extent. There are supplements too. I used a type of candida detox protocol, there are several online. One good place to find info is at the yahoo group sauna detox. Another group is detox- there are files with info at both groups. You can ask about the salt/C at the Lyme group, they should know. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Thank you I am using diatomatious earth for the parasites. I know they can be a big problems also. What can be done about the herx when doing the salt/ C protocol. How slowly should you start. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme And it does not help that many docs view depression as not part of the problem, in my opinion caused by maybe spirochetes in the brain, and/or brain poisons put out by the bugs. Yes, it surely can be, so don't fall for it. Repetitive thinking can be definitely caused by physical ailments. There was one preliminary study that showed the parasites that cause cat scratch fever (toxoplasmosis?) are killed by several psychology medications, as well as anti parasitics. They were going to try treating people with bi-polar disorder with antiparasitics and see if it helped them. There is a serious probability that many so-called psychological complaints are actually parasitic, or toxic in nature. You may have limited energy. It may feel overwhelming, but you can do it. Just get through one day at a time. I still keep lists of what I need to do each day (supplements to take, and when to take them), so I don't forget something important. Hang in there. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
On Jun 15, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Jim Meissner yahoo wrote: Dear Kathryn: but it is moot to argue about nanometers when one is talking about ions Mary Ellen used the word atoms. There are ions, atoms and particles and they are different things. I do not think it is nick picking when someone uses the wrong words. An ion is an incomplete atom and yes it will be smaller than an atom. Most homemade generators produce mostly ions. My version produces more than 90% ions. Depending on the generator, voltage, current, salt, and many other variables the particles produced could be very large. When taking a teaspoon a day that may not make any difference. When taking 32 ounces a day as Carol did, then in my opinion, it becomes very important. that may be. I have not taken that much in a day before. I think my homemade brew also has a few oxides, and hydroxides in addition to the ions. When I make a good batch, it has very little tyndall, so mostly ions. Nearly all my batches are good ones, but once in a while something happens. --kathryn Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I beg to differ, at least in principle. An ion is smaller than a stable particle of any element. Don't confuse the poor girl. I respect Frank Key's work, but this is getting to a nitpicking point that she may be too sick to understand. Ionically isolated silver is going to be the most reasonable solution. I am not arguing with your statement about the small size being more effective, but it is moot to argue about nanometers when one is talking about ions. My generator certainly produces ions, which are the smallest pieces of silver that can exist. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Jim Meissner yahoo wrote: Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
http://www.silverpuppy.com/ Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net wrote: What are some other generators that are Ionic silver -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial I beg to differ, at least in principle. An ion is smaller than a stable particle of any element. Don't confuse the poor girl. I respect Frank Key's work, but this is getting to a nitpicking point that she may be too sick to understand. Ionically isolated silver is going to be the most reasonable solution. I am not arguing with your statement about the small size being more effective, but it is moot to argue about nanometers when one is talking about ions. My generator certainly produces ions, which are the smallest pieces of silver that can exist. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Jim Meissner yahoo wrote: Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
LOL Wow, what a deal!!! If anyone wants a ready made solution for under $200, why not get a generator from Ken at http://silverpuppy.com/. It has some real guts and is sold by someone who has forgotten more about this stuff than must of us will ever know. As long as we are into blatant self-promotion, free plans and theory for a constant polarity machine can be found at http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm and all the parts and equipment are available for $29.99. http://www.atlasnova.com/ColloidalSilverStarterKit.htm Best Regards, Arnold Beland www.atlasnova.com - Original Message - From: Jim Meissner yahoo jpmeiss...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Dear Bob: Thank you, you are right, the link does not work. I will email my web guy. The generator consists of a battery box, two AA batteries, one 4.7 K ohm resistor and two # 12 AWG .999 silver wires and a Teflon sleeve. It takes about an hour to make. Total manufacturing cost is less than $50. For a while I was selling plans for $10 for people to make their own. No one has bought the plans. I have sold quite a few of generators. I have plans and instruction of how to make lots of things on my EnergyPulser yahoo group but the interesting thing is that only 1 out of 100 are actually able build something. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial ...at that page, the link to see a pic of the generator doesn't work. i want to see inside the box of a 3vdc constant polarity machine to see what's costing $200. EIS/CS forms silver ions in solution which are single atoms of silver... but they're not metallic particles until they happen to get together. the particulate portion of EIS/CS varies in particle size, some of them surely being as small as is possible, but they tend to grow over time eventually falling out. so then we come back to which works, particles or ions? or which works best? again again, ad nauseum. -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Dear Mary Ellen: Click on the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator No, not all generators are alike. There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of an atom. Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest particle possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in size. He has done some research that says that the smaller particle means more surface area and best effects. Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial Can some one please tell me which is the best generator to make colloidal silver and does the particle size matter. I was told that it did not and a lot of people do not know what I am talking about and saY that an atom is a as small as you can get and that's what they all do. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner
Re: CSvaccine dangers
Vicki Hood, I know. My dog contracted hemolytic anemia after getting a rabies vaccine. I've been dealing with it ever since, and he's had 4 episodes of this. A very expensive nightmare, let me tell you. Bob - Original Message - From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: Re: CSvaccine dangers That is such a trajedy. My son became seriously ill after the dpt vac, and they would not listen to me until I was screaming at them and threatening to turn them all in. That got their attention, and the doc finally returned my call. I think the nurses were trained to not allow anyone to talk to the doctors directly. I am convinced he would have died if I had followed their advice and ignored his symptoms, and continued to give him the shots on their schedule. I later read a book on the pertussis vaccine, and many many children died of so-called SIDS just after getting the pertussis vaccine. Their symptoms were identical to my son's symptoms. --kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Vicki hood wrote: take all of the bad ingredients out of vaccines and you have no vaccine. mercury, aluminum, anti-freeze, pus, endless list of danger. visit vaclib.org. phone numbers of pharma companies who are obliged, by law,if you care to check with them on the ingredients in their vaccines. there are forms on this site that will excuse your child from vaccines at school. besides, there is nothing in my constitution that says my government (public schools) can put a foreign substance into my body. personally, i got my multiple sclerosis within a week of a vaccine. my step-grandson (3 months old) died few days after vaccine. think of your pets as well. vaccines upset their auto-immune systems as well. muttmom vicki hood -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnderstanding Food Irradiation
More evidence that the FDA is in the business of committing genocide against human beings, and that they are an arm of big business that wants us all as sick as possible so we will be forced to use their FDA approved doctors, therapies, and drugs. This is not only Unconstitutional, it is criminal. I thought is was governements job to protect it's citizens, but instead they are trying to kill us and profit from our misery before we die. Bob - Original Message - From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: CSUnderstanding Food Irradiation Understanding Food Irradiation http://www.centerfo rfoodsafety. org/food_ irrad.cfm What is Food Irradiation? Food irradiation uses high-energy Gamma rays, electron beams, or X-rays (all of which are millions of times more powerful than standard medical X-rays) to break apart the bacteria and insects that can hide in meat, grains, and other foods. Radiation can do strange things to food, by creating substances called unique radiolytic products. These irradiation byproducts include a variety of mutagens - substances that can cause gene mutations, polyploidy (an abnormal condition in which cells contain more than two sets of chromosomes) , chromosome aberrations (often associated with cancerous cells), and dominant lethal mutations (a change in a cell that prevents it from reproducing) in human cells. Making matters worse, many mutagens are also carcinogens. Research also shows that irradiation forms volatile toxic chemicals such as benzene and toluene, chemicals known or suspected to cause cancer and birth defects. Irradiation also causes stunted growth in lab animals fed irradiated foods. An important 2001 study linked colon tumor promotion in lab rats to 2-alkylcyclobutanon es (2-ACB's), a new chemical compound found only in irradiated foods. The FDA has never tested the safety of these byproducts. Irradiation has also been shown to cause the low-level production of furans (similar to cancer-causing dioxins) in fruit juice. FDA to Weaken Labeling on Food Irradiation The FDA has announced a rule to weaken labeling restrictions of irradiated foods. Currently, irradiated food must be labeled as Treated with irradiation or Treated by radiation and must display the irradiated radura symbol. But now, in yet another attempt to appease industry at the expense of the public, the FDA has proposed a new rule that would allow irradiated food to be marketed in some cases without any labeling at all. In other cases, the rule would allow the terms electronically pasteurized or cold pasteurized to replace the use of irradiated on labels. These terms are not used by scientists, but rather are designed to fool consumers about what's been done to their food. Food Safety Concerns In addition to the proposed weakening of the labeling requirements for irradiated food, FDA's rule would also severely limit them by requiring companies to label irradiated food only when the radiation treatment causes a 'material change' to the product. Examples include changes to the taste, texture, smell or shelf life of a food. Published research on irradiated foods reveals that irradiation does change, and can actually ruin, the flavor, odor, appearance, and texture of food. Such research repeatedly finds that irradiated foods smell rotten, metallic, bloody, burnt, grassy, and generally off. The taste has been described as like sulfur, singed hair, burnt feathers, burnt oil, and rancid fat. Beyond the obvious yuck factor, serious questions remain as to whether irradiated foods are safe to eat. Irradiation Destroys the Vitamin Content of Foods Irradiated foods can lose from 2-95% of their vitamins. For example, irradiation can destroy up to 80% of the vitamin A in eggs, up to 95% of the vitamin A and lutein in green beans, up to 50% of the vitamin A and lutein in broccoli, and 40% of the beta-carotene in orange juice. Irradiation also doubles the amount of trans fats in beef. Despite 50 years of research, food scientists still do not fully understand how these changes take place. Much of the ongoing research, in fact, is focused on devising new ways to hide these changes, rather than addressing the cause of the changes themselves. Irradiation is Not the Solution to Food-Borne Illness Using recent food-contamination scandals as a springboard, irradiation has been touted as the solution to food-borne illness in everything from spinach to deli meats. But a good, hard look at the systemic food and agricultural problems that cause these tragic outbreaks in the first place has yet to be undertaken by government agencies. Masks the Unsanitary Condition of Factory Farms Irradiation is an after the fact solution that does nothing to address the unsanitary conditions of factory farms, and actually creates a disincentive for producers and handlers to take
Re: CSVaccines and autism.
I'm sure that mercury plays a big part is many of the cases that develop. It is a potent neurotoxin that permeates the blood brain barrier. Of course, other ingredients such as aluminum and formaldehyde, or evey aspartame, can cause systemic neurological disease. A bad immune response can cause swelling of the brain too... not to mention other auto-immune diseases which are too numerous to mention. Vaccines are dangerous, period. - Original Message - From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CSVaccines and autism. The point was that it is not the mercury that is causing the problems. On Jun 15, 2008, at 8:21 AM, bbanever wrote: This one's for Ode, INFANT PRIMATES GIVEN VACCINES ON U.S. CHILDREN'S IMMUNIZATION SCHEDULE DEVELOP BEHAVIORAL SYMPTOMS OF AUTISM _http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/press051908.php_ (http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/press051908.php) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com