Re: CS>CS

[Dan Nave]

>From an old post of mine.  I'll just leave it all in and give credit where
credit is due...



When I started looking into how to make CS one of the main problems I
encountered was how to customize my setup for the materials I might have
access to, how to tell when the CS was done, and what concentration it was.


As a starting point Bob Lee, in his post of 4-11-98, gives a very valuable
discussion of Faraday’s equation for electrolysis which indicates how much
silver is freed from the electrode during electrolysis. Add to this Mike
Monett’s experiments indicating that low voltage / very low current setups
allow one to make CS with a single 9v battery and a series resistor,
providing for nearly linear operation of the cell, and dispensing with the
need for stirring. (Thanks Bob and Mike.)


Also, perhaps it is more correct to call this EIS (electrically isolated
silver) rather than CS (colloidal silver) since it is apparently much more
ionic than colloidal.


This post is not essentially different from one of Mike’s but is put in a
form where I can more intuitively understand what is involved in the
calculations.


For our purposes, there are three formulas that apply to the calculation of
this process.

The other equations are merely conversion factors which convert from ounces
to grams to mg to liters, etc.


*How much silver is liberated during the reaction?


1.  Faraday’s equation for electrolysis


m = k*I*t


where:

m = mass in grams

k = electrochemical equivalent = 0.001118

I = current in amps

t = time in seconds


This formula tells us exactly how much silver was liberated from the
electrode (anode) and is determined by k = a constant, I = current, and t =
time.


[You can ignore this – just use the constant.

“k”, the electrochemical equivalent, is derived from the chemical equivalent
for silver which is the atomic weight in grams of silver divided by the
valence number times the number of coulombs (ampseconds) required to
liberate this amount of silver:

k = atomic weight of silver / valence # * coulombs to liberate

= 107.88/1*96500

= 107.88/96500

= 0.001118

This is from Bob Lee’s post of 4-11-98]


Conversion factors:

Sec = hrs*3600 ;convert hours to seconds

I = ma/1000 ;convert milliamps to amps


So, the variables for this equation are the amount of current and the time
of the reaction.


*What is the concentration of the liberated silver in the volume of
distilled water?


2.  ppm = mg/lt


where:


ppm = concentration of silver in parts per million

mg = milligrams of liberated silver

lt = liter of distilled water


The concentration is determined by the amount of liberated silver (from
equation #1) per volume of distilled water used.


Conversion factors:

mg = gm*1000 ;convert grams to milligrams

ml = 29.57*oz ;convert ounces to milliliters

lt = ml/1000 ;convert milliliters to liters


The variables for this equation are the amount of liberated silver and the
volume of distilled water used.


*The current density at the electrodes (anode).


3.  den = I/sqin


where:

den = current density in Amps per square inch of anode surface area

I = current in Amps

sqin = surface area of electrode (anode) in square inches



Conversion factors:

[for wire electrode]

Sqin = pi*d*l ;surface area = pi*diameter of anode*length of anode

d = .08081 in ;for 12 gage wire

d = .06408 in ;for 14 gage wire


[For 12 gage wire, 1 square inch = approximately 4 linear inches.]

[For 14 gage wire, 1 square inch = approximately 5 linear inches.]

The variables for current density are the surface area of the electrode
(anode) and the current in Amps.


You can have any length of electrode you want. For equation 1 and 2 it
doesn’t matter. What does matter about the current density, as was shown by
Mike Monett, is when the current density is very low, about .080ma/sqin then
the process can be made nearly linear and there are apparently few losses of
the liberated silver due to agglomeration or plating at the cathode. An
additional benefit is that stirring is apparently not required. Also,
current limiting can be accomplished by a simple series resistor of the
correct value.


*To calculate the correct resistor, Ohms law:

[OK, here’s a fourth equation to calculate the needed series resistor ;-]


4. R = E/I ; Resistance in ohms = Voltage / Current


Verify the current in circuit with a milliammeter or measure voltage across
the resistor and calculate:


I = E/R ;Current in Amps = Voltage / Resistance in ohms


I would recommend that one calculate the maximum amount of current allowable
for their electrodes for very low current CS where den = less than
.08ma/sqin for example. Just don’t exceed that current for your setup.


Special thanks to Bob Lee and Mike Monett.


Dan




On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Jonathan  wrote:

>
>
>  *Does making CS basically just  boil down to electrolysis? I see systems
> with one  9 volt that make 3-5 ppms in about 2-1/2 hr.s. Then I see systems
> that use four 9 vo

RE: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[James C Brown]

I heard that honey works well for wounds. 


Thanks,
Jim

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Subject: Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

A 20% DMSO 80% EIS compress is not a bad way to go.
Although it is not the best way to deal with large areas of tissue
destruction, it might be good for an incision.

The type of wound she has can take a long time to heal.

It is going to weep a lot and needs to be kept open and draining as it heal
from the inside out.

Closing it prematurely will cause infection.

There are wound care specialists, generally a plastic surgeon.
I used a wound care clinic when I had a bad dog bite wound, that killed off
the skin and dermal layers down to the muscle.

It was a whole new world, much like burn treatment, healing the area. Took a
month to heal a 1.75 " area as the skin had to grow in from the sides, it is
pure scar tissue.

Garnet

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Clayton Family wrote:
> I assume that it is an opening into the abdominal cavity. An incision 
> into the body is often left to heal on it's own these days since the 
> chance of infection is so great if it is sewed shut. It can take some 
> weeks to close on its own. I would be tempted to get some silver 
> bandages to use over it, even though they are pretty spendy.
> Alternatively, keeping a gauze dampened with CS might just do the same 
> thing as far as keeping it from getting infected. I would be tempted 
> to ask the doctor if a silver dressing would make the skin heal too 
> fast- maybe they don't want it to close too soon, due to risk of
infection.
> 
> Kathryn
> 
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Bernadette wrote:
> 
>> My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered 
>> it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and 
>> everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button 
>> since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out 
>> about the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly.
>>She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and 
>> one week off).  Other than the cancer she is in excellent health.  
>> She is 66 years old.  Would CS help heal this type of open wound?  
>> She wrote the following:
>>
>> "As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can 
>> do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a 
>> real problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will 
>> go with the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. 
>> There is that chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep 
>> it clean it should be fine."
>>
>> She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her 
>> some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them 
>> or not. Thank you for any help you could afford her.
>>
>> Bernadette
>>
>>


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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Garnet]

A 20% DMSO 80% EIS compress is not a bad way to go.
Although it is not the best way to deal with large areas of
tissue destruction, it might be good for an incision.

The type of wound she has can take a long time to heal.

It is going to weep a lot and needs to be kept open and
draining as it heal from the inside out.

Closing it prematurely will cause infection.

There are wound care specialists, generally a plastic surgeon.
I used a wound care clinic when I had a bad dog bite wound,
that killed off the skin and dermal layers down to the muscle.

It was a whole new world, much like burn treatment, healing
the area. Took a month to heal a 1.75 " area as the skin had
to grow in from the sides, it is pure scar tissue.

Garnet

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Clayton Family wrote:
I assume that it is an opening into the abdominal cavity. An incision 
into the body is often left to heal on it's own these days since the 
chance of infection is so great if it is sewed shut. It can take some 
weeks to close on its own. I would be tempted to get some silver 
bandages to use over it, even though they are pretty spendy. 
Alternatively, keeping a gauze dampened with CS might just do the same 
thing as far as keeping it from getting infected. I would be tempted to 
ask the doctor if a silver dressing would make the skin heal too fast- 
maybe they don't want it to close too soon, due to risk of infection.


Kathryn

On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Bernadette wrote:

My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered 
it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and 
everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button 
since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out 
about the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly. 
   She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and 
one week off).  Other than the cancer she is in excellent health.  She 
is 66 years old.  Would CS help heal this type of open wound?  She 
wrote the following:


"As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can 
do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a 
real problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go 
with the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is 
that chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean 
it should be fine."


She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her 
some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them 
or not. Thank you for any help you could afford her.


Bernadette





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Re: CS>CS

[Arnold Beland]

Yes.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Jonathan  wrote:

>
>
>  *Does making CS basically just  boil down to electrolysis? I see systems
> with one  9 volt that make 3-5 ppms in about 2-1/2 hr.s. Then I see systems
> that use four 9 volt batteries. And they make 10 ppm in about 1-1/2hr.s.  I
> would think then if the four 9 volt system put out less then 36 volts
> because of lets say the batteries getting old. It would theatrically still
> make good CS. But just take longer because of the lower voltage?  *
>
>
>

Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Clayton Family]

I assume that it is an opening into the abdominal cavity. An incision  
into the body is often left to heal on it's own these days since the  
chance of infection is so great if it is sewed shut. It can take some  
weeks to close on its own. I would be tempted to get some silver  
bandages to use over it, even though they are pretty spendy.  
Alternatively, keeping a gauze dampened with CS might just do the same  
thing as far as keeping it from getting infected. I would be tempted  
to ask the doctor if a silver dressing would make the skin heal too  
fast- maybe they don't want it to close too soon, due to risk of  
infection.


Kathryn

On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Bernadette wrote:

My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They  
discovered it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was  
operated on and everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up  
her belly-button since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how  
they found out about the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not  
heal properly.She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a week  
(three weeks on and one week off).  Other than the cancer she is in  
excellent health.  She is 66 years old.  Would CS help heal this  
type of open wound?  She wrote the following:


"As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can  
do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a  
real problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will  
go with the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own.  
There is that chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep  
it clean it should be fine."


She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give  
her some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try  
them or not. Thank you for any help you could afford her.


Bernadette

Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Jane MacRoss]

Bernadette - how old is the wound now? The body needs to "weep" if the wound 
closes before the body is ready it will weep internally so this is not a bad 
thing - yes it can be messy but a clean cotton gauze dressing daily or more 
often should be placed on it and secured with tape, if the discharge is smelly 
then CS will help. Chemo will slow down any healing process but again this is 
not such a bad thing. Tell you friend to be patient and to see it as "letting 
the toxins out"

Best,

Jane
  - Original Message - 
  From: jr orrilia 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:05 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound


  Bentonite clay is know to be so beneficial for open wounds.  Draws out the 
"bad stuff". Here is a good site 
http://www.aboutclay.com/info/Articles/therapeutic_clays_detoxify_heavy_metals.htm
  Will keep your friend in my thoughts.  

  Orrilia




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  Subject: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound


  My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered it on a 
Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and everything 
"female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button since a lymph node was 
pushing through (that is how they found out about the ovarian cancer). Now the 
incision will not heal properly.She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a 
week (three weeks on and one week off).  Other than the cancer she is in 
excellent health.  She is 66 years old.  Would CS help heal this type of open 
wound?  She wrote the following:

  "As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. TO 
reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real problem in 
the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the cemo and hope 
that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. It is not in 
fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be fine."

  She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some 
suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. Thank 
you for any help you could afford her.

  Bernadette


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Re: CS>Vitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies

[mborgert]

more information on vitamin d3
marshall protocol vitamin d tutorial
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From: Garnet Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 10:02:30 AMSubject: CS>Vitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babieshttp://www.healthresearchforum.org.ukVitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babiesPowerful new evidence about the way that Vitamin D3 can reduce the risk of premature births and boost the health of new-born babies has emerged from an international research conference in Bruges. Delegates were told that mothers who were given ten times the usual dose of vitamin D3 during pregnancy had their risk of premature birth reduced by half and had fewer small babies...Over the two and a half years of the study thousands of tests were made and monitored by an external safety committee. Not a single test showed any adverse effect of the large dose of vitamin D3. The average level of vitamin D in the women's blood increased by about 50 per centIn addition, the normally recommended level of sun exposure does not produce enough vitamin D3, according to a separate study reported at the Bruges meeting. Sunlight is the major source of vitamin D3 and so advice on sun exposure is crucial for health. Food cannot supply more than 10% of what is needed...Previous studies have already shown that infants born to vitamin D deficient mothers may be at greater risk of low birth weight, lower respiratory tract infections, asthma, and weak bones..However, of particular interest is that this study considered levels less than 20ng/ml to indicate insufficiency. Vitamin D experts agree that levels less that 50ng/ml should be considered insufficient. Had the study analyzed the results using levels of  less than 50ng/ml as the definition of insufficiency the results would have been much worse.Holmes VA et al. British Journal of Nutrition 2009 Sept; 102(6): 876-81Institute of Medicine-- --http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexonehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_InformationDr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDNhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comThe Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...List maintainer: Mike Devour   

Re: CS>Any feedback?

[Sharlene Miyamura]

Marshall,

One site said to mix baking soda with apple cider vinegar.  Would this be as
good a substitute or is the mixture with citric acid much better? I'd
appreciate your opinion.

Sharlene

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> jr orrilia wrote:
>
>> Hi Marshall.  Could I ask you how much baking soda and how much citric
>> acid?  Also, what does citric acid do.  I will be doing the same.Orrilia
>>
>> 
>> **
>>
> The citric acid changes the sodium bicarbonate to sodium citrate.  All of
> the bubbles that leave would be generated in your body and have to be
> expelled by the lungs or burping if the acid is not added, and the CO2 in
> the blood will acidify it, at least short term.  But of more concern is that
> baking soda will reduce your stomach acid, forcing the body to make more. If
> you continue to do this long term, it will be like taking antacids
> continually, which can result in the either insufficient acid to properly
> digest your food when taken with the water, or excessive acid when not
> drinking the water resulting in heartburn.  Also it is much easier for the
> body to deal with sodium citrate than sodium bicarbonate.
>
> Lets take a look at what happens when you take sodium bicarbonate:  When it
> hits the stomach it raises the pH of the stomach and becomes salt and CO2.
>  What CO2 is not absorbed into the blood to be expelled by the lungs is
> belched.  The body immediately starts making more HCl to replace that which
> was neutralized by the sodium bicarbonate.  The biproduct of the HCl
> production is sodium bicarbonate again, but in the blood this time.  Now the
> sudden increase in pH has to be counteracted by withholding CO2 in the blood
> to bring the pH back to the normal range, or expelled by the kidneys wasting
> it.  Increased CO2 in the blood makes one tired and weary and high pH levels
> in the urine can promote an infection..
>
> Now with sodium citrate we get the following:  There is no reaction in the
> stomach, the pH of the stomach only changes slightly (like drinking plain
> water).  The sodium citrate moves into the blood stream as sodium citrate.
>  Now sodium citrate is a salt and has a pH of 7, and does not effect the
> blood pH at all (actually it will lower it very slightly due to the
> buffering effect which makes acids more alkaline and alkalines more acid).
>  When the body needs a way to alkalize itself, any fat it burns, or any food
> you eat, it will metabolize the sodium citrate first, instead of pulling
> calcium from your bones or robbing other areas of the body.  When sodium
> citrate is metabolized it produces sodium sodium bicarbonate.  But the thing
> is, the conversion is at the body's request and need, and it will only
> convert it as it needs to to maintain pH.
>
> This is a repost of what I posted before:
>
> I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own. Turned
> out to be very easy.
>
> 1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder each in
> an 8 to 12 ounce glass
> 2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if you put
> more than this it might foam over)
> 3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue stiirring until
> foaming diminishes
> 4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full.
> 5. stir until foaming stops.
>
> You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric acid left
> over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it it should have a
> slightly sour taste.  If you take the pH it should be about 6.5 to 6.8 or
> so.  Now add a little baking soda ( 1/4 teaspoon) and stir until foaming
> stops. Continue this until no foaming occurs after adding the soda (or the
> only bubbles you are getting are from the CO2 dissolved in the water).
>  (this occurred on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it it should taste
> salty, but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it should measure between
> 7.0 and 7.2.   It is not imperative that you get it alkaline unless you are
> adding pH drops to it, and since pH drops are nothing more than diluted MMS,
> if you leave it acid it will activate the MMS.
>
> You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now.  To alkalize
> the water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution into a gallon of
> water, actually putting the full amount into my 5 gallon container.  If you
> taste the water after it is added, you can detect a slight amount of mineral
> taste, but it is very slight and not objectionable at all, at least to me.
>
> I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement
> if you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain proper electrolyte
> balance.
>
> BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and 7.2,
> which is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day yesterday.
> Even my wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decade

Re: CS>Vitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies

[Ken & Nancy Bagwell]

Thanks for the info.  too bad I didn't know about it a year ago.

-Ken Bagwell





From: Garnet 
Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 10:02:30 AM
Subject: CS>Vitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies

http://www.healthresearchforum.org.uk

Vitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies

Powerful new evidence about the way that Vitamin D3 can reduce the risk of 
premature births and boost the health of new-born babies has emerged from an 
international research conference in Bruges. Delegates were told that mothers 
who were given ten times the usual dose of vitamin D3 during pregnancy had 
their risk of premature birth reduced by half and had fewer small babies.
..

Over the two and a half years of the study thousands of tests were made and 
monitored by an external safety committee. Not a single test showed any adverse 
effect of the large dose of vitamin D3. The average level of vitamin D in the 
women's blood increased by about 50 per cent.

...



In addition, the normally recommended level of sun exposure does not produce 
enough vitamin D3, according to a separate study reported at the Bruges 
meeting. Sunlight is the major source of vitamin D3 and so advice on sun 
exposure is crucial for health. Food cannot supply more than 10% of what is 
needed.

..

Previous studies have already shown that infants born to vitamin D deficient 
mothers may be at greater risk of low birth weight, lower respiratory tract 
infections, asthma, and weak bones.

.

However, of particular interest is that this study considered levels less than 
20ng/ml to indicate insufficiency. Vitamin D experts agree that levels less 
that 50ng/ml should be considered insufficient. Had the study analyzed the 
results using levels of  less than 50ng/ml as the definition of insufficiency 
the results would have been much worse.

Holmes VA et al. British Journal of Nutrition 2009 Sept; 102(6): 876-81
Institute of Medicine
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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Del]

I guess all the other suggestions made so far are, or could be, useful, but 
if I had a surgical wound that was not healing, I would immediately 
investigate Silverlon:


http://www.silverlon.com/index.htm

Del 




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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[John E. Stevens]

CS will stop infection.  Cayenne Pepper on the wound will help heal it,
too.  Once the wound has healed, liquid vitamin E will heal the scar and the
scar will or should disappear.  Ovarian cancer can be cured with garlic.
You take a clove of garlic, skin it, put a hole in it, place a string thru
the hole, and put it directly into the vagina.  Leave it there for 12 hours,
retreive it and change it with fresh garlic.  You do this daily until the
cancer is expelled like jelly.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Bernadette  wrote:

>
> My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered it on
> a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and everything
> "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button since a lymph node
> was pushing through (that is how they found out about the ovarian cancer).
> Now the incision will not heal properly.She is on chemo for 1 year -
> going once a week (three weeks on and one week off).  Other than the cancer
> she is in excellent health.  She is 66 years old.  Would CS help heal this
> type of open wound?  She wrote the following:
>
> "As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. TO
> reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real problem
> in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the cemo and
> hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. It is not
> in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be fine."
>
> She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some
> suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not.
> Thank you for any help you could afford her.
>
> Bernadette
>
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Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

[Garnet]

If I were doing it for long periods I probably would but I am
only doing it during flu season.

Testing never hurts though.

Garnet

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Dan Nave wrote:

When you are taking these higher doses, you are supposed to get your
levels tested...

Dan

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Jonathan B. Britten
 wrote:

A caveat:  the Life Extension Foundation nutrition "bible" calls for much
smaller doses.

LEF does not avoid calling for vitamin does far higher than RDA, so when
they suggest caution, I tend to pay attention.

Here's a link to a page with many links.

http://search.lef.org/search/default.aspx?s=1&QUERY=d3







On Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009, at 09:06 Asia/Tokyo, Garnet wrote:


One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for
30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you
get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days.

This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless
who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism.

Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her.

She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as
a preventative and libido booster.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bob Banever wrote:

Marshall,
   How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative every
day.
   Bob
- Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:

For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is
suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting home;
have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the "head feeling"
keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in the
past with success in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working with
only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with people; I worked alone)
  I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble
with all this c.



*From:* Clayton Family 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
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*Subject:* Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Garnet]

Oat Straw and Nettles are also good sources of Si,
herbal teas are a great way to get a range of minerals
and can be made up to have a good flavor if you add
some lemon grass or peppermint.

And onions if you like them, lightly cooked, raw is
highest.

When I first heard of Si for fingernails and hair I tried
eating onions for breakfast, lunch and dinner when the
Walla Wallas were in season in Seattle one year. It was
an amazing experiment, did it for a month, never have
my fingernails been so thick and hard.

I ate onions every way I could for that month, lightly
sauteed with my omlettes, as a side dish raw, lightly
marinated in vinegar or oil and black pepper with a
bit of sugar, cooked in marinara sauce, chili or stir
fry, baked ~ not going work if you hate onions though!

Garnet

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Gayla Roberts wrote:

A tea made from horsetail (shavegrass) is very high in silica.
Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, CA
- Original Message - From: "Garnet" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound



Silicon is a trace mineral that enhances absorption and utilization
of Magnesium and Calcium. Studies in Thoroughbred Race Horses
support it's efficacy in preventing and shortening healing time
from injuries.

Zinc is another trace mineral that is important in wound healing and
is used in diaper rash ointments. Desitin is used by many or just
straight Zinc Oxide ointment, the white stuff that life guards used
to use on their nose.

Vit A & D are also ingredients in skin healing ointments.

And Vit C!

Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I had a broken leg that was slow to heal, mainly 
because I wouldn't stay off of it, but it healed very fast when I 
began to take silica gel. I got mine from Whole Foods; probably 
everyone has it.



*From:* Garnet 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Fri, October 23, 2009 1:42:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

Calendula is a great herb for healing wounds. I like the salve
from Herb Pharm called Herbal Ed's Salve, works really fast
to close a wound. She can make a calendula tea and compress
the area as well.

I have used the salve many times to close wounds rapidly
and to heal chapped lips. It works in 24 hrs sometimes on
chapped lips which for me is fast.

Herbal Ed's salve has other goodies in it too, like Plantain.
www.herb-pharm.net 

Some Whole Food stores carry it.

Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bernadette wrote:
 >
 > My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They 
discovered it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was 
operated on and everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up 
her belly-button since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how 
they found out about the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not 
heal properly.She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a week 
(three weeks on and one week off).. Other than the cancer she is in 
excellent health.  She is 66 years old. Would CS help heal this type 
of open wound?  She wrote the following:

 >
 > "As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he 
can do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that 
becomes a real problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So 
we will go with the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its 
own. There is that chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I 
keep it clean it should be fine."

 >
 > She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give 
her some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try 
them or not. Thank you for any help you could afford her.

 >
 > Bernadette
 >
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Re: CS>trying CS, so tired and achy

[Clayton Family]

Thanks for mentioning that. I take a vitamin ( of course it is not  
made anymore) that has moly plus several others that help with  
detoxing, like B's etc. Wish they would make it again. I find it  
helpful too.  -kathryn


On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Garnet wrote:


The trace mineral Molybdenum 150 mcg helps with herxing,
it is part of the enzyme system that converts aldehydes.

Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Marshall Dudley wrote:
You are describing a herx reaction. It means that the CS is killing  
something.  You can back off or not depending on how really bad it  
is. Remember that the herx is caused by the toxins released when  
you kill the microbes, and thus drinking lots of water is highly  
desirable to wash all the toxins out.  If you drink lots of water  
you might find you do not need to back off.

Marshall
Stacy Rappaport wrote:

Hi All, I keep trying, hopefully this reaches hte postings.

I've started using CS a few weeks ago, I got to 5 tsps, 4 xs a day  
but then ran out. someone sent me more and I started at 3tsps but  
felt pretty bad a 4. I resume CS too quickly. I backed off,  
stopped it and then resumed again wiht a lower dose. I'm at 4 tsps  
but feeling really wiped out, lost a lor fo the strength and  
clarity I had. Sleeping later, simply tired with aches that move  
around  and just feeling as if all sense are dulled.


Is this when I should back down again?  What is the process like?  
Do I simply need to wait this out ( 4tsp or 3) until I feel  
better? Then increase again?


ANy feedback would be so very helpful. I feel isolated.

Thanks

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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Gayla Roberts]

A tea made from horsetail (shavegrass) is very high in silica.
Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, CA
- Original Message - 
From: "Garnet" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound



Silicon is a trace mineral that enhances absorption and utilization
of Magnesium and Calcium. Studies in Thoroughbred Race Horses
support it's efficacy in preventing and shortening healing time
from injuries.

Zinc is another trace mineral that is important in wound healing and
is used in diaper rash ointments. Desitin is used by many or just
straight Zinc Oxide ointment, the white stuff that life guards used
to use on their nose.

Vit A & D are also ingredients in skin healing ointments.

And Vit C!

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I had a broken leg that was slow to heal, mainly 
because I wouldn't stay off of it, but it healed very fast when I began 
to take silica gel. I got mine from Whole Foods; probably everyone has 
it.



*From:* Garnet 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Fri, October 23, 2009 1:42:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

Calendula is a great herb for healing wounds. I like the salve
from Herb Pharm called Herbal Ed's Salve, works really fast
to close a wound. She can make a calendula tea and compress
the area as well.

I have used the salve many times to close wounds rapidly
and to heal chapped lips. It works in 24 hrs sometimes on
chapped lips which for me is fast.

Herbal Ed's salve has other goodies in it too, like Plantain.
www.herb-pharm.net 

Some Whole Food stores carry it.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bernadette wrote:
 >
 > My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered 
it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and 
everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button since 
a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out about the 
ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly.She is on 
chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and one week off).. 
Other than the cancer she is in excellent health.  She is 66 years old. 
Would CS help heal this type of open wound?  She wrote the following:

 >
 > "As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can 
do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real 
problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with 
the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that 
chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should 
be fine."

 >
 > She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her 
some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or 
not. Thank you for any help you could afford her.

 >
 > Bernadette
 >
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Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

[Garnet]

It was formerly thought one could OD on Vit D but that is
no longer the most current thought, apparently.

Best for everyone to check it out and decide for themselves.

It's a bummer when there is conflicting information but it
happens when new info comes along and old info is being
replaced, particulatrly where risk may be involved.

Many are doing high doses of D, especially those with D
deficient disorders like MS.

Garnet

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Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
A caveat:  the Life Extension Foundation nutrition "bible" calls for 
much smaller doses.


LEF does not avoid calling for vitamin does far higher than RDA, so when 
they suggest caution, I tend to pay attention.


Here's a link to a page with many links.

http://search.lef.org/search/default.aspx?s=1&QUERY=d3







On Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009, at 09:06 Asia/Tokyo, Garnet wrote:


One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for
30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you
get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days.

This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless
who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism.

Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her.

She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as
a preventative and libido booster.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bob Banever wrote:

Marshall,
How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative 
every day.

Bob
- Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is 
suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after 
getting home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; 
the "head feeling" keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each 
dose. I've done this in the past with success in modulating the flu 
so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not 
in a place with people; I worked alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a 
rumble with all this c.


 


*From:* Clayton Family 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html
>
> Dad
>
>


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Re: CS>trying CS, so tired and achy

[Garnet]

The trace mineral Molybdenum 150 mcg helps with herxing,
it is part of the enzyme system that converts aldehydes.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Marshall Dudley wrote:
You are describing a herx reaction. It means that the CS is killing 
something.  You can back off or not depending on how really bad it is. 
Remember that the herx is caused by the toxins released when you kill 
the microbes, and thus drinking lots of water is highly desirable to 
wash all the toxins out.  If you drink lots of water you might find you 
do not need to back off.


Marshall

Stacy Rappaport wrote:

Hi All, I keep trying, hopefully this reaches hte postings.

I've started using CS a few weeks ago, I got to 5 tsps, 4 xs a day but 
then ran out. someone sent me more and I started at 3tsps but felt 
pretty bad a 4. I resume CS too quickly. I backed off, stopped it and 
then resumed again wiht a lower dose. I'm at 4 tsps but feeling really 
wiped out, lost a lor fo the strength and clarity I had. Sleeping 
later, simply tired with aches that move around  and just feeling as 
if all sense are dulled.


Is this when I should back down again?  What is the process like? Do I 
simply need to wait this out ( 4tsp or 3) until I feel better? Then 
increase again?


ANy feedback would be so very helpful. I feel isolated.

Thanks 



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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Peter Converse]

Hi Bernadette,

She could try very high doses of Lypospheric vitamin C and glutathione:

http://www.livonlabs.com/

http://www.healthyitems.com/liposomal-vitamin-C-p/614.htm

or make some of her own with help from this list along with trying some 
CS/DMSO applied externally to the area. This may cause stem cell release and 
close the wound, depending on how large it is.


If it becomes infected another possibility besides CS is Allimax allicin 
(garlic source) capsules which are documented to heal open festering wounds 
in cases of MRSA.


These are just research suggestions she might consider.

I hope this helps,

Peter

- Original Message - 
From: "Bernadette" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound


My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered it 
on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and 
everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button since 
a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out about the 
ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly.She is on 
chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and one week off). 
Other than the cancer she is in excellent health.  She is 66 years old. 
Would CS help heal this type of open wound?  She wrote the following:


"As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. 
TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real 
problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the 
cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. 
It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be 
fine."


She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some 
suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. 
Thank you for any help you could afford her.


Bernadette


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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Bob Banever]

Bernadette,

 CS might help to heal the wound.  If I were her, I'd research other 
modalities for her condition.   Cannabis oil, oleander extract, and IP6 are 
three worth pursueing   Just google them.



- Original Message - 
From: "Bernadette" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound




My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered it 
on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and 
everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button since 
a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out about the 
ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly.She is on 
chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and one week off). 
Other than the cancer she is in excellent health.  She is 66 years old. 
Would CS help heal this type of open wound?  She wrote the following:


"As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. 
TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real 
problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the 
cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. 
It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be 
fine."


She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some 
suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. 
Thank you for any help you could afford her.


Bernadette


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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Garnet]

Silicon is a trace mineral that enhances absorption and 
utilization

of Magnesium and Calcium. Studies in Thoroughbred Race Horses
support it's efficacy in preventing and shortening healing time
from injuries.

Zinc is another trace mineral that is important in wound 
healing and
is used in diaper rash ointments. Desitin is used by many or 
just
straight Zinc Oxide ointment, the white stuff that life 
guards used

to use on their nose.

Vit A & D are also ingredients in skin healing ointments.

And Vit C!

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I had a broken leg that was slow to heal, mainly 
because I wouldn't stay off of it, but it healed very fast when I began 
to take silica gel. I got mine from Whole Foods; probably everyone has it.



*From:* Garnet 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Fri, October 23, 2009 1:42:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

Calendula is a great herb for healing wounds. I like the salve
from Herb Pharm called Herbal Ed's Salve, works really fast
to close a wound. She can make a calendula tea and compress
the area as well.

I have used the salve many times to close wounds rapidly
and to heal chapped lips. It works in 24 hrs sometimes on
chapped lips which for me is fast.

Herbal Ed's salve has other goodies in it too, like Plantain.
www.herb-pharm.net 

Some Whole Food stores carry it.

Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bernadette wrote:
 >
 > My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered 
it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and 
everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button 
since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out about 
the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly.She is 
on chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and one week 
off)..  Other than the cancer she is in excellent health.  She is 66 
years old.  Would CS help heal this type of open wound?  She wrote the 
following:

 >
 > "As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can 
do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a 
real problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go 
with the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is 
that chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it 
should be fine."

 >
 > She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her 
some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or 
not. Thank you for any help you could afford her.

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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[arthur rambo]

For what its worth, I had a broken leg that was slow to heal, mainly because I 
wouldn't stay off of it, but it healed very fast when I began to take silica 
gel. I got mine from Whole Foods; probably everyone has it. 





From: Garnet 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 1:42:47 PM
Subject: Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

Calendula is a great herb for healing wounds. I like the salve
from Herb Pharm called Herbal Ed's Salve, works really fast
to close a wound. She can make a calendula tea and compress
the area as well.

I have used the salve many times to close wounds rapidly
and to heal chapped lips. It works in 24 hrs sometimes on
chapped lips which for me is fast.

Herbal Ed's salve has other goodies in it too, like Plantain.
www.herb-pharm.net

Some Whole Food stores carry it.

Garnet

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Bernadette wrote:
> 
> My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered it on a 
> Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and everything 
> "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button since a lymph node 
> was pushing through (that is how they found out about the ovarian cancer). 
> Now the incision will not heal properly.    She is on chemo for 1 year - 
> going once a week (three weeks on and one week off).  Other than the cancer 
> she is in excellent health.  She is 66 years old.  Would CS help heal this 
> type of open wound?  She wrote the following:
> 
> "As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. TO 
> reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real problem in 
> the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the cemo and hope 
> that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. It is not in 
> fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be fine."
> 
> She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some 
> suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. 
> Thank you for any help you could afford her.
> 
> Bernadette
> 
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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Garnet]

Calendula is a great herb for healing wounds. I like the salve
from Herb Pharm called Herbal Ed's Salve, works really fast
to close a wound. She can make a calendula tea and compress
the area as well.

I have used the salve many times to close wounds rapidly
and to heal chapped lips. It works in 24 hrs sometimes on
chapped lips which for me is fast.

Herbal Ed's salve has other goodies in it too, like Plantain.
www.herb-pharm.net

Some Whole Food stores carry it.

Garnet

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Bernadette wrote:


My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered it 
on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and 
everything "female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button 
since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out about 
the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly.She is 
on chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and one week 
off).  Other than the cancer she is in excellent health.  She is 66 
years old.  Would CS help heal this type of open wound?  She wrote the 
following:


"As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. 
TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real 
problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with 
the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that 
chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it 
should be fine."


She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her 
some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or 
not. Thank you for any help you could afford her.


Bernadette


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Re: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[jr orrilia]

Bentonite clay is know to be so beneficial for open wounds.  Draws out the "bad 
stuff". Here is a good site 
http://www.aboutclay.com/info/Articles/therapeutic_clays_detoxify_heavy_metals.htm
Will keep your friend in my thoughts.  

Orrilia





From: Bernadette 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 12:42:04 PM
Subject: CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound


My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered it on a 
Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and everything 
"female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button since a lymph node was 
pushing through (that is how they found out about the ovarian cancer). Now the 
incision will not heal properly.    She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a 
week (three weeks on and one week off).  Other than the cancer she is in 
excellent health.  She is 66 years old.  Would CS help heal this type of open 
wound?  She wrote the following:

"As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. TO 
reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real problem in 
the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the cemo and hope 
that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. It is not in 
fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be fine."

She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some 
suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. Thank 
you for any help you could afford her.

Bernadette


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CS>Vitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies

[Garnet]

http://www.healthresearchforum.org.uk

Vitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies

Powerful new evidence about the way that Vitamin D3 can 
reduce the risk of premature births and boost the health of 
new-born babies has emerged from an international research 
conference in Bruges. Delegates were told that mothers who 
were given ten times the usual dose of vitamin D3 during 
pregnancy had their risk of premature birth reduced by half 
and had fewer small babies.

..

Over the two and a half years of the study thousands of 
tests were made and monitored by an external safety 
committee. Not a single test showed any adverse effect of 
the large dose of vitamin D3. The average level of vitamin D 
in the women's blood increased by about 50 per cent.


...



In addition, the normally recommended level of sun exposure 
does not produce enough vitamin D3, according to a separate 
study reported at the Bruges meeting. Sunlight is the major 
source of vitamin D3 and so advice on sun exposure is 
crucial for health. Food cannot supply more than 10% of what 
is needed.


..

Previous studies have already shown that infants born to 
vitamin D deficient mothers may be at greater risk of low 
birth weight, lower respiratory tract infections, asthma, 
and weak bones.


.

However, of particular interest is that this study 
considered levels less than 20ng/ml to indicate 
insufficiency. Vitamin D experts agree that levels less that 
50ng/ml should be considered insufficient. Had the study 
analyzed the results using levels of  less than 50ng/ml as 
the definition of insufficiency the results would have been 
much worse.


Holmes VA et al. British Journal of Nutrition 2009 Sept; 
102(6): 876-81

Institute of Medicine
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Re: CS>Any feedback?

[jr orrilia]

Marshall, I really appreciate you typing all of this info.  So powerful but so 
simple. Will be using this for sure.  Again, thanks so muchOrrilia





From: Marshall Dudley 
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Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 12:20:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Any feedback?

jr orrilia wrote:
> Hi Marshall.  Could I ask you how much baking soda and how much citric acid?  
> Also, what does citric acid do.  I will be doing the same.    Orrilia
> 
> 
> **
The citric acid changes the sodium bicarbonate to sodium citrate.  All of the 
bubbles that leave would be generated in your body and have to be expelled by 
the lungs or burping if the acid is not added, and the CO2 in the blood will 
acidify it, at least short term.  But of more concern is that baking soda will 
reduce your stomach acid, forcing the body to make more. If you continue to do 
this long term, it will be like taking antacids continually, which can result 
in the either insufficient acid to properly digest your food when taken with 
the water, or excessive acid when not drinking the water resulting in 
heartburn.  Also it is much easier for the body to deal with sodium citrate 
than sodium bicarbonate.

Lets take a look at what happens when you take sodium bicarbonate:  When it 
hits the stomach it raises the pH of the stomach and becomes salt and CO2.  
What CO2 is not absorbed into the blood to be expelled by the lungs is 
belched.  The body immediately starts making more HCl to replace that which was 
neutralized by the sodium bicarbonate.  The biproduct of the HCl production is 
sodium bicarbonate again, but in the blood this time.  Now the sudden increase 
in pH has to be counteracted by withholding CO2 in the blood to bring the pH 
back to the normal range, or expelled by the kidneys wasting it.  Increased CO2 
in the blood makes one tired and weary and high pH levels in the urine can 
promote an infection..

Now with sodium citrate we get the following:  There is no reaction in the 
stomach, the pH of the stomach only changes slightly (like drinking plain 
water).  The sodium citrate moves into the blood stream as sodium citrate.  Now 
sodium citrate is a salt and has a pH of 7, and does not effect the blood pH at 
all (actually it will lower it very slightly due to the buffering effect which 
makes acids more alkaline and alkalines more acid).  When the body needs a way 
to alkalize itself, any fat it burns, or any food you eat, it will metabolize 
the sodium citrate first, instead of pulling calcium from your bones or robbing 
other areas of the body.  When sodium citrate is metabolized it produces sodium 
sodium bicarbonate.  But the thing is, the conversion is at the body's request 
and need, and it will only convert it as it needs to to maintain pH.

This is a repost of what I posted before:

I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own. Turned out 
to be very easy.

1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder each in an 8 
to 12 ounce glass
2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if you put more 
than this it might foam over)
3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue stiirring until foaming 
diminishes
4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full.
5. stir until foaming stops.

You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric acid left over. 
The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it it should have a slightly 
sour taste.  If you take the pH it should be about 6.5 to 6.8 or so.  Now add a 
little baking soda ( 1/4 teaspoon) and stir until foaming stops. Continue this 
until no foaming occurs after adding the soda (or the only bubbles you are 
getting are from the CO2 dissolved in the water).  (this occurred on the 3rd 
addition for me) If you taste it it should taste salty, but not sour or bitter. 
If you test the pH it should measure between 7.0 and 7.2.  It is not imperative 
that you get it alkaline unless you are adding pH drops to it, and since pH 
drops are nothing more than diluted MMS, if you leave it acid it will activate 
the MMS.

You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now.  To alkalize the 
water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution into a gallon of water, 
actually putting the full amount into my 5 gallon container.  If you taste the 
water after it is added, you can detect a slight amount of mineral taste, but 
it is very slight and not objectionable at all, at least to me.

I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement if 
you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain proper electrolyte balance.

BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and 7.2, which 
is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day yesterday. Even my 
wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decades is testing optimal now. Unfortunately 
I 

CS>can anyone make a suggestion about an open wound

[Bernadette]

My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.  They discovered it on 
a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and everything 
"female" was taken out.  They closed up her belly-button since a lymph node 
was pushing through (that is how they found out about the ovarian cancer). 
Now the incision will not heal properly.She is on chemo for 1 year - 
going once a week (three weeks on and one week off).  Other than the cancer 
she is in excellent health.  She is 66 years old.  Would CS help heal this 
type of open wound?  She wrote the following:


"As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. TO 
reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real problem 
in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the cemo and 
hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. It is not 
in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be fine."


She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some 
suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. 
Thank you for any help you could afford her.


Bernadette


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Re: CS>trying CS, so tired and achy

[Clayton Family]

I agree. Try googling herx reaction, and you will see what your body  
is trying to do, although Marshall has described it well. There are  
various ways to help the body get rid of the toxins that are released  
when you are killing off microbes of any kind; I have found sweating  
to be extremely helpful for me. That can be anywhere from a sauna to  
hot baths (adding some kind of salt will help, either table salt, or  
sea salt, or epsom salts) to sitting in a hot car.


One of the most important things is to get the sweat off ASAP- our  
bodies will reabsorb the toxins on the skin.


Since they also get reabsorbed in the gut, emptying the gut is also  
very helpful, esp to get more quick relief. Some people do enemas,  
others using something to empty the bowels, like senna leaf tea  
( epsom salt can also do that).


When I started CS I had some very severe reactions to what was being  
eliminated, and I had to start with teaspoons also. I can now have as  
much as I want with no ill effects, but it took time to get to that  
point.


Some find that drinking an electrolyte solution can help- something  
like gatorade, but home made- like lemonade but not so sweet, and with  
a little salt added. Water is very good, as Marshall has said. I had  
to use distilled for a long time, now I am ok with other water.


Drinking fresh juices can also help, but again watch the sweetness- it  
can feed what you are trying to kill, depending on what you have.


Many of the candida protocols have helpful info on this part of the  
process, so reading up on them might help, I used many of the  
suggestions from those; but I pick and choose, since I had other  
things going on too.


Good luck and best wishes,

Kathryn

On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

You are describing a herx reaction. It means that the CS is killing  
something.  You can back off or not depending on how really bad it  
is. Remember that the herx is caused by the toxins released when you  
kill the microbes, and thus drinking lots of water is highly  
desirable to wash all the toxins out.  If you drink lots of water  
you might find you do not need to back off.


Marshall

Stacy Rappaport wrote:

Hi All, I keep trying, hopefully this reaches hte postings.

I've started using CS a few weeks ago, I got to 5 tsps, 4 xs a day  
but then ran out. someone sent me more and I started at 3tsps but  
felt pretty bad a 4. I resume CS too quickly. I backed off, stopped  
it and then resumed again wiht a lower dose. I'm at 4 tsps but  
feeling really wiped out, lost a lor fo the strength and clarity I  
had. Sleeping later, simply tired with aches that move around  and  
just feeling as if all sense are dulled.


Is this when I should back down again?  What is the process like?  
Do I simply need to wait this out ( 4tsp or 3) until I feel better?  
Then increase again?


ANy feedback would be so very helpful. I feel isolated.

Thanks



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Re: CS>Any feedback?

[Marshall Dudley]

jr orrilia wrote:
Hi Marshall.  Could I ask you how much baking soda and how much citric 
acid?  Also, what does citric acid do.  I will be doing the same.
Orrilia



**
The citric acid changes the sodium bicarbonate to sodium citrate.  All 
of the bubbles that leave would be generated in your body and have to be 
expelled by the lungs or burping if the acid is not added, and the CO2 
in the blood will acidify it, at least short term.  But of more concern 
is that baking soda will reduce your stomach acid, forcing the body to 
make more. If you continue to do this long term, it will be like taking 
antacids continually, which can result in the either insufficient acid 
to properly digest your food when taken with the water, or excessive 
acid when not drinking the water resulting in heartburn.  Also it is 
much easier for the body to deal with sodium citrate than sodium 
bicarbonate.


Lets take a look at what happens when you take sodium bicarbonate:  When 
it hits the stomach it raises the pH of the stomach and becomes salt and 
CO2.  What CO2 is not absorbed into the blood to be expelled by the 
lungs is belched.  The body immediately starts making more HCl to 
replace that which was neutralized by the sodium bicarbonate.  The 
biproduct of the HCl production is sodium bicarbonate again, but in the 
blood this time.  Now the sudden increase in pH has to be counteracted 
by withholding CO2 in the blood to bring the pH back to the normal 
range, or expelled by the kidneys wasting it.  Increased CO2 in the 
blood makes one tired and weary and high pH levels in the urine can 
promote an infection..


Now with sodium citrate we get the following:  There is no reaction in 
the stomach, the pH of the stomach only changes slightly (like drinking 
plain water).  The sodium citrate moves into the blood stream as sodium 
citrate.  Now sodium citrate is a salt and has a pH of 7, and does not 
effect the blood pH at all (actually it will lower it very slightly due 
to the buffering effect which makes acids more alkaline and alkalines 
more acid).  When the body needs a way to alkalize itself, any fat it 
burns, or any food you eat, it will metabolize the sodium citrate first, 
instead of pulling calcium from your bones or robbing other areas of the 
body.  When sodium citrate is metabolized it produces sodium sodium 
bicarbonate.  But the thing is, the conversion is at the body's request 
and need, and it will only convert it as it needs to to maintain pH.


This is a repost of what I posted before:

I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own. 
Turned out to be very easy.


1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder each 
in an 8 to 12 ounce glass
2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if you 
put more than this it might foam over)
3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue stiirring until 
foaming diminishes

4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full.
5. stir until foaming stops.

You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric acid left 
over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it it should have 
a slightly sour taste.  If you take the pH it should be about 6.5 to 6.8 
or so.  Now add a little baking soda ( 1/4 teaspoon) and stir until 
foaming stops. Continue this until no foaming occurs after adding the 
soda (or the only bubbles you are getting are from the CO2 dissolved in 
the water).  (this occurred on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it 
it should taste salty, but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it 
should measure between 7.0 and 7.2.   It is not imperative that you get 
it alkaline unless you are adding pH drops to it, and since pH drops are 
nothing more than diluted MMS, if you leave it acid it will activate the 
MMS.


You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now.  To 
alkalize the water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution into 
a gallon of water, actually putting the full amount into my 5 gallon 
container.  If you taste the water after it is added, you can detect a 
slight amount of mineral taste, but it is very slight and not 
objectionable at all, at least to me.


I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium 
supplement if you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain proper 
electrolyte balance.


BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and 7.2, 
which is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day yesterday. 
Even my wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decades is testing optimal now. 
Unfortunately I do not have a baseline though since I did not get the 
testing paper until last night.  I would watch my pH very carefully, if 
it gets too alkaline, then you need to use less in your water.


Also I am thinking about using the undiluted solution in place of salt 
when cooking. That would be pretty c

Re: CS>trying CS, so tired and achy

[Marshall Dudley]

You are describing a herx reaction. It means that the CS is killing 
something.  You can back off or not depending on how really bad it is. 
Remember that the herx is caused by the toxins released when you kill 
the microbes, and thus drinking lots of water is highly desirable to 
wash all the toxins out.  If you drink lots of water you might find you 
do not need to back off.


Marshall

Stacy Rappaport wrote:

Hi All, I keep trying, hopefully this reaches hte postings.

I've started using CS a few weeks ago, I got to 5 tsps, 4 xs a day but 
then ran out. someone sent me more and I started at 3tsps but felt 
pretty bad a 4. I resume CS too quickly. I backed off, stopped it and 
then resumed again wiht a lower dose. I'm at 4 tsps but feeling really 
wiped out, lost a lor fo the strength and clarity I had. Sleeping 
later, simply tired with aches that move around  and just feeling as 
if all sense are dulled.


Is this when I should back down again?  What is the process like? Do I 
simply need to wait this out ( 4tsp or 3) until I feel better? Then 
increase again?


ANy feedback would be so very helpful. I feel isolated.

Thanks 



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Re: CS>Any feedback?

[Marshall Dudley]

Baking soda should not be used to spike your distilled water when making 
CS.  After that there is no interaction between the two.


Marshall

Neville Munn wrote:
Don't mean to stir up a hornets' nest here but can't help 
notice conversations about baking soda.  For those who MAY be into EIS 
does this not fly in the face of all noted material regarding baking 
soda and silver??  If I'm missing something here perhaps someone could 
briefly put me straight?  Maybe I missed something earlier on and 
these discussions are totally unrelated to anyone involved with EIS.
 
Can someone clear this up for me?
 
N.
 
> From: blacksa...@comcast.net

> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>Any feedback?
> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:47:46 -0400
>
> Thanks for the info Marshall...could you offer up your "recipe" for your
> mix? Do you use 1 or 2 teaspoons of baking soda with how much citric 
acid?

>
> I'll need to get some good ph strips first...know of where I can get 
them? I
> remember somebody mentioning that certain types are any good as they 
aren't

> detailed enough.
>
> L
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:33 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Any feedback?
>
> Lisa wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > On a [yahoo] group there has been some conversation about Sodium
> > Bicarbonate and its use in fighting off cancer, curing kidney 
ailments

> > etc.
> >
> > I'd LOVE to hear any feedback that you folks may have - knowing that
> > somebody has **something** J
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> I believe all those relate to it being able to alkalize the body. For
> cancer it is reported that cancer cannot exist in an alkalized body, 
and

> for kidney stones, alkalizing will result in uric acid kidney stones to
> dissolve. (If you have calcium type of stones, you are already too
> alkaline).
>
> My wife and I are drinking baking soda mixed with citric acid and added
> to our drinking water to alkalize. The nice thing about that is that it
> does not screw up your digestive system by neutralizing the stomach 
acid

> like baking soda does but is just as effecting in alkalizing.
>
> Marshall
>
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Re: Lisa // Re: CS>Any feedback?

[Marshall Dudley]

I get mine from the local health food/nutrition store.

Marshall

Jane MacRoss wrote:
Pharmacies usually have ph strips - they are expensive though (well in 
Australia that is) and the more detail they have the dearer they get - 
litmus paper is probably the cheapest way to go.


Jane

From: "Lisa" 


Thanks for the info Marshall...could you offer up your "recipe" for your
mix? Do you use 1 or 2 teaspoons of baking soda with how much citric 
acid?


I'll need to get some good ph strips first...know of where I can get 
them?



I
remember somebody mentioning that certain types are any good as they 
aren't

detailed enough.

L



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Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

[Dan Nave]

When you are taking these higher doses, you are supposed to get your
levels tested...

Dan

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Jonathan B. Britten
 wrote:
> A caveat:  the Life Extension Foundation nutrition "bible" calls for much
> smaller doses.
>
> LEF does not avoid calling for vitamin does far higher than RDA, so when
> they suggest caution, I tend to pay attention.
>
> Here's a link to a page with many links.
>
> http://search.lef.org/search/default.aspx?s=1&QUERY=d3
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009, at 09:06 Asia/Tokyo, Garnet wrote:
>
>> One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for
>> 30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you
>> get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days.
>>
>> This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless
>> who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism.
>>
>> Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her.
>>
>> She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as
>> a preventative and libido booster.
>>
>> Garnet
>>
>> --
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
>>
>> Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
>>
>>
>> Bob Banever wrote:
>>>
>>> Marshall,
>>>    How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative every
>>> day.
>>>    Bob
>>> - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

 C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

 Marshall

 arthur rambo wrote:
>
> For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is
> suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after getting home;
> have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since; the "head feeling"
> keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each dose. I've done this in 
> the
> past with success in modulating the flu so I was able to keep working with
> only mild symptoms. ( I was not in a place with people; I worked alone)
>   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a rumble
> with all this c.
>
>
> 
> *From:* Clayton Family 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines
>
> Thanks, Dad!
>
> On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
> > http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html
> >
> > Dad
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Any feedback?

[jr orrilia]

Hi Marshall.  Could I ask you how much baking soda and how much citric acid?  
Also, what does citric acid do.  I will be doing the same.    Orrilia





From: Marshall Dudley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 5:32:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Any feedback?

Lisa wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> On a [yahoo] group there has been some conversation about Sodium Bicarbonate 
> and its use in fighting off cancer, curing kidney ailments etc.
> 
> I’d LOVE to hear any feedback that you folks may have – knowing that somebody 
> has **something** J
> 
> Lisa
> 
I believe all those relate to it being able to alkalize the body. For cancer it 
is reported that cancer cannot exist in an alkalized body, and for kidney 
stones, alkalizing will result in uric acid kidney stones to dissolve. (If you 
have calcium type of stones, you are already too alkaline).

My wife and I are drinking baking soda mixed with citric acid and added to our 
drinking water to alkalize. The nice thing about that is that it does not screw 
up your digestive system by neutralizing the stomach acid like baking soda does 
but is just as effecting in alkalizing.

Marshall


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Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

[Jonathan B. Britten]

A caveat:  the Life Extension Foundation nutrition "bible" calls for  
much smaller doses.


LEF does not avoid calling for vitamin does far higher than RDA, so  
when they suggest caution, I tend to pay attention.


Here's a link to a page with many links.

http://search.lef.org/search/default.aspx?s=1&QUERY=d3







On Wednesday, Oct 21, 2009, at 09:06 Asia/Tokyo, Garnet wrote:


One recommendation is to start out with 10,000 iu D3 for
30 days, then 5,000 iu per day for maintenance. If you
get the flu take 50,000 iu for three days.

This is per the recommendation of Dr Jaquelyn McCandless
who is working with Low Dose Naltrexone for HIV and Autism.

Autistic kids have poor immune function according to her.

She also recommends LDN for all her patients over 60 as
a preventative and libido booster.

Garnet

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Bob Banever wrote:

Marshall,
How much D3 would you consume?  I take 5000mg as a preventative  
every day.

Bob
- Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley"  


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

C is good, but D3 is much better, and don't forget the CS.

Marshall

arthur rambo wrote:
For what its worth, I just came from a home where swine flu is  
suspected, started feeling something come on very soon after  
getting home; have been taking 30-40,000 mg vit c each hour since;  
the "head feeling" keeps recurring, but subsides minutes after each  
dose. I've done this in the past with success in modulating the flu  
so I was able to keep working with only mild symptoms. ( I was not  
in a place with people; I worked alone)
   I must have something, because I have not had so much as a  
rumble with all this c.


 


*From:* Clayton Family 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tue, October 20, 2009 12:25:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Europeans reject swine flu vaccines

Thanks, Dad!

On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

>  
http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html

>
> Dad
>
>


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Re: CS>trying CS, so tired and achy

[Fuzzmom]

it reached the list...thanks...will up dose for me and all the fuzzkins and 
here I thought 6 cc's a day would do something for me? Nope..so thanks for the 
helpful info guys. Hope you feel better. I don't recognize you so if you are 
new to the list hi..if not then hi anyway. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neville Munn 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:38 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>trying CS, so tired and achy


  Ride it out for a few more days and see if things improve.  Drink copious 
amounts of water during the day for the next few days, this should assist in 
the flushing process of your internal plumbing, go for the record for the 
amount of water passed in a day , you'll know the plumbing is working fine 
then, and that means dead/dying bugs and cells are getting expelled (if there 
are any bugs).
   
  [I keep trying, hopefully this reaches the postings.]
  -Yeah, and keep bashing on the door, you'll eventually get in .

  N.
   

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  Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:36:06 -0400
  From: stacy07...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>trying CS, so tired and achy

  Hi All, I keep trying, hopefully this reaches hte postings.

  I've started using CS a few weeks ago, I got to 5 tsps, 4 xs a day but then 
ran out. someone sent me more and I started at 3tsps but felt pretty bad a 4. I 
resume CS too quickly. I backed off, stopped it and then resumed again wiht a 
lower dose. I'm at 4 tsps but feeling really wiped out, lost a lor fo the 
strength and clarity I had. Sleeping later, simply tired with aches that move 
around  and just feeling as if all sense are dulled.

  Is this when I should back down again?  What is the process like? Do I simply 
need to wait this out ( 4tsp or 3) until I feel better? Then increase again?

  ANy feedback would be so very helpful. I feel isolated.

  Thanks 

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