Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Richard Goodwin
What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?



- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches in 
1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve didn't 
belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of 
the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper


 Leslie,

 There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
 That should help with figuring it out...

 Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
 1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

 Yes, Zappers work fine.

 Dan


 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:
 Any experiences here on using a zapper?

 I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
 have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to
 buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch. 
 that
 baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water
 distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one 
 soon.
 Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

 Leslie


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CSStudy Shows Silver Nanoparticles Attach to HIV-1 virus

2010-02-12 Thread miss...@prodigy.net.mx
Don't know if this has made the silver list, since it is a few years old...

Study Shows Silver Nanoparticles Attach to HIV-1 virus

In the first-ever study of metal nanoparticles' interaction with HIV-1,
silver nanoparticles of sizes 1-10nm attached to HIV-1 and prevented the
virus from bonding to host cells. 

The study, published in the Journal of Nanotechnology, was a joint project
between the University of Texas, Austin and Mexico Univeristy, Nuevo Leon. 

Our article opens an important avenue for research, said Miguel Jose
Yacaman, from University of Texas, Department of Engineering and one of the
study's authors. 

In this study, scientists mixed silver nanoparticles with three different
capping agents: foamy carbon, poly (PVP), and bovine serum albumin
(BSA).Not using a capping agent could result in the synthesis of big
crystals instead of nanocrystals, explained Yacaman.

Transmission electron microscopy (TEM) showed the silver nanoparticles in
the foamy carbon matrix were joined together, but an ultrasonic bath in
deionized water released a significant number of nanoparticles. These
nanoparticles were of size 16.19 (+-8.69)nm and had the greatest variety of
shapes, such as icosahedral, decahedral, and elongated. 

Because of the synthesis procedure, the foamy carbon-coated naoparticles
are more likely to have broad shape distribution, said Yacaman. Scientists
used the electron beam to release the remainder of the nanoparticles from
the joined bundle. 

For the PVP-coated silver nanoparticles, scientists used glycerine as a
dissolving agent. These particles were of size 6.53 (+-2.41). In the third
preparation, scientists used serum albumin, the most common protein in
blood plasma. The sulfur, oxygen, and nitrogen chemicals in BSA stabilized
the nanoparticles, which were in the range of 3.12 (+-2.00) nm.

Scientists studied the absorption spectra of the different preparations to
pinpoint their shapes. Spherical nanoparticles absorbed in the blue region
of the spectrum, for example, Yacaman said. 

Also, the UV-Visible spectra graphs helped the group determine nanoparticle
sizes. The surface plasmon resonance peak wavelength increased with size,
explained Yacaman. 

Scientists tested, in vitro, each of three silver nanoparticle-preparations
in HIV-1 cells. Yacaman and his colleagues incubated the samples at 37 C.
After three hours and 24 hours, respectively, 0% of the cells were living.

The results showed that a silver nanoparticle concentration greater than 25
ug/mL worked more effectively at inhibiting HIV-1 cells. Plus, the foamy
carbon was a slightly-better capping agent because of its free surface
area. Size also played a role since none of the attached nanoparticles were
greater than 10nm.

Scientists think the nanoparticles bonded through the gp120 glycoprotein
knobs on HIV-1, using the sulfur residues on the knobs. The spacing between
the knobs of ~22nm matched the center-to-center nanoparticle spacing. 

Although this study shows silver nanoparticles may treat HIV-1, scientists
need to research this relationship further. We lack information regarding
the long-term effects of metal nanoparticles, cautioned Yacaman.
Scientists are forming a preventive cream for HIV-1, which they will test
on humans.

Scientists are also studying other uses for silver nanoparticles. We're
testing against other viruses and the 'super bug (Methicillin resistant
staphylococcus aureus).' Our preliminary results indicate that silver
nanoparticles can effectively attack other micro-organisms, Yacaman said.

By Syeda Z. Hamdani; Copyright 2005 PhysOrg.com





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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread leslie
Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not 
sure. I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper



What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?



- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches 
in
1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve 
didn't

belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of
the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper



Leslie,

There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
That should help with figuring it out...

Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

Yes, Zappers work fine.

Dan


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net 
wrote:

Any experiences here on using a zapper?

I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want 
to

buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch.
that
baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a 
water

distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
soon.
Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

Leslie



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CScarol and lupus

2010-02-12 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=465

Hi Carol, this is a link that I found which is actually for Lupus in humans but 
I'm sure it would apply to dogs to.  Especially if they are not fed raw.  I 
don't know why I didn't think of enzymes before for this condition.  You could 
check out Dr Wong on enzymes and their benefits.  dee

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Re: CScarol and lupus

2010-02-12 Thread carolG
HI Sweet Dorothy,
I got the dog on enzymes too but never assume...she is taking a powder that has 
lots of stuff in it. Yeah for thinking of me and her healing.  She is still a 
bit itchy, but that's part of process.

Carol





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 9:47:23 AM
Subject: CScarol and lupus

http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=465

Hi Carol, this is a link that I found which is actually for Lupus in humans but 
I'm sure it would apply to dogs to.  Especially if they are not fed raw.  I 
don't know why I didn't think of enzymes before for this condition.  You could 
check out Dr Wong on enzymes and their benefits.  dee

Hugs, carol

Re: CScarol and lupus

2010-02-12 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I think its the proteolytic ones which are beneficial for allergies.  It is 
often protein which gets into the blood stream which causes the itching.  The 
proteolytic enzymes eat this all up so it doesn't get into the bloodstream 
undigested.  It is a fascinating subject and can even help with things like 
cancer and herpes.  dee

On 12 Feb 2010, at 16:50, carolG wrote:

 HI Sweet Dorothy,
 I got the dog on enzymes too but never assume...she is taking a powder that 
 has lots of stuff in it. Yeah for thinking of me and her healing.  She is 
 still a bit itchy, but that's part of process.
 
 Carol
 



Re: CScarol and lupus

2010-02-12 Thread carolG
Awesome Dee.
Thanks.
carol





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 9:52:59 AM
Subject: Re: CScarol and lupus

I think its the proteolytic ones which are beneficial for allergies.  It is 
often protein which gets into the blood stream which causes the itching.  The 
proteolytic enzymes eat this all up so it doesn't get into the bloodstream 
undigested.  It is a fascinating subject and can even help with things like 
cancer and herpes.  dee


On 12 Feb 2010, at 16:50, carolG wrote:

Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Richard Goodwin
Andy Warhol is the guy who painted abstract stuff like clocks oozing over the 
edge of something.  Just weird stuff.  I think he would have enjoyed a shirt 
with a sleeve on the neck and an inside out zipper... :-)



- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 11:26:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not sure. I 
am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail.
- Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper


 What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper
 
 Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches in
 1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve didn't
 belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of
 the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL
 
 - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper
 
 
 Leslie,
 
 There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
 That should help with figuring it out...
 
 Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
 1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.
 
 Yes, Zappers work fine.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:
 Any experiences here on using a zapper?
 
 I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
 have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to
 buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch.
 that
 baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water
 distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
 soon.
 Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.
 
 Leslie
 
 
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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Marshall Dudley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol

I was thinking she might have meant Houdini.

Marshall

leslie wrote:
Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am 
not sure. I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much 
detail.
- Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin 
dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper



What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?



- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 
inches in
1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve 
didn't
belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside 
instead of

the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL

- Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper



Leslie,

There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
That should help with figuring it out...

Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

Yes, Zappers work fine.

Dan


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net 
wrote:

Any experiences here on using a zapper?

I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I 
need. I
have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but 
want to
buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the 
inch.

that
baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a 
water

distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
soon.
Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

Leslie



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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread John E. Stevens
It wasn't Andy Warhol - it was Salvador Dali - Surrealist painter.

John

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Andy Warhol is the guy who painted abstract stuff like clocks oozing over
 the edge of something.  Just weird stuff.  I think he would have enjoyed a
 shirt with a sleeve on the neck and an inside out zipper... :-)



 - Original Message 
 From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 11:26:51 AM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper

 Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not
 sure. I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail.
 - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin 
 dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper


  What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?
 
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
  Subject: Re: CSzapper
 
  Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches
 in
  1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve
 didn't
  belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead
 of
  the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL
 
  - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
  Subject: Re: CSzapper
 
 
  Leslie,
 
  There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
  That should help with figuring it out...
 
  Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
  1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.
 
  Yes, Zappers work fine.
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
 wrote:
  Any experiences here on using a zapper?
 
  I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need.
 I
  have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want
 to
  buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch.
  that
  baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a
 water
  distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
  soon.
  Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.
 
  Leslie
 
 
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Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

2010-02-12 Thread John E. Stevens
Not really...  better than the super homenized and the super pasteurized,
but who ever told you milk, even raw milk is good for you?  Too much mucus
formation from all of it - raw - or the other junk food.

John

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

  Ah…but *raw* milk IS good for you!



 L


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 *From:* John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:18 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles



 Hi, Sandee:

 The Chinese may have not known anything about colloidal silver water
 killing bacteria in milk until recently.  Personally, I think milk is junk
 food and I never drink it.  At first I went to Rice Milk and eventually to
 Coconut Milk which is what I use on my cereal these days.  Our milk in the
 states is too over processed - over pasteurizd and over homogenized.  From
 my research there isn't anything good, nutrient-wise, that one can digest
 and metabolize.  The vitamin D, calcium and other nutrients just wash
 through the body unused, for the most part.  The enzymes in the milk are
 dead, so there is no way to digest it.   Milk causes too much mucus to
 build up in the body.  And the mucus is not good.
 Sad, because I am a cheese lover.  Yes, I am a Hulda R. Clark reader and
 follower and what she had to say about milk is correct.  Dr. William
 Campbell Douglass II says the same thing, but there are so many folks in
 this country, and other countries, that falsely believe milk is 'good for
 you, it's hard getting the truth out there.  Off with that phony milk
 mustache

 John

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Hi There John, EIS is a preservative, it is an anti bacterial, so why would
 it take so long for them to use it
 in milk, since I started making EIS, if I do have any milk around, the
 first thing that happens is about 6
 drops of EIS goes into the bottle/carton and it keeps, and I know it is rid
 of any impurities that may be there, if you have read and studied Hulda
 Clark's work she makes it very clear what milk contains and why adults do
 not need, and in fact use milk to their detriment 
 Knowledge unused is a waste of time 
 Regards
 Sandee


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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Richard Goodwin
Hahahaha -- good point!



- Original Message 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 12:04:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol

I was thinking she might have meant Houdini.

Marshall


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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Richard Goodwin
Oops!  Right you are!  Andy Warhol was the Campbell's soup can guy...





From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 12:09:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

It wasn't Andy Warhol - it was Salvador Dali - Surrealist painter.

John


On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

Andy Warhol is the guy who painted abstract stuff like clocks oozing over the 
edge of something.  Just weird stuff.  I think he would have enjoyed a shirt 
with a sleeve on the neck and an inside out zipper... :-)




- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 11:26:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not sure. 
I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail.
- Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin 
dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper


 What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?



 - Original Message 
 From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper

 Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches in
 1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve didn't
 belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of
 the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL

 - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper


 Leslie,

 There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
 That should help with figuring it out...

 Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
 1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

 Yes, Zappers work fine.

 Dan


 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:
 Any experiences here on using a zapper?

 I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
 have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to
 buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch.
 that
 baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water
 distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
 soon.
 Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

 Leslie


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Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

2010-02-12 Thread Richard Goodwin
I have heard that before -- that milk is really not good for people at all.  
Good for baby cows, but not for humans, even babies.  

The 3 advantages of mother's milk over store-bought milk:
1. It's always ready
2. It's always the right temperature
3. Comes in more attractive containers





From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 12:13:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

Not really...  better than the super homenized and the super pasteurized, but 
who ever told you milk, even raw milk is good for you?  Too much mucus 
formation from all of it - raw - or the other junk food.

John


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:













Ah…but raw milk IS good for you!
 
L
 



 
From:John E. Stevens
[mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010
12:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk
With Silver Nanoparticles
 
Hi, Sandee:

The Chinese may have not known anything about colloidal silver water killing
bacteria in milk until recently.  Personally, I think milk is junk
food and I never drink it.  At first I went to Rice Milk and
eventually to Coconut Milk which is what I use on my cereal these days. 
Our milk in the states is too over processed - over pasteurizd and over
homogenized.  From my research there isn't anything good, nutrient-wise,
that one can digest and metabolize.  The vitamin D, calcium and other
nutrients just wash through the body unused, for the most part.  The
enzymes in the milk are dead, so there is no way to digest it.
  Milk causes too much mucus to build up in the body.  And the mucus
is not good.
Sad, because I am a cheese lover.  Yes, I am a Hulda R. Clark reader and
follower and what she had to say about milk is correct.  Dr. William
Campbell Douglass II says the same thing, but there are so many folks in this
country, and other countries, that falsely believe milk is 'good for you,
it's hard getting the truth out there.  Off with that phony milk
mustache  

John

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:
Hi There John, EIS is a preservative, it is an anti bacterial, so why
would it take so long for them to use it
in milk, since I started making EIS, if I do have any milk around, the first
thing that happens is about 6
drops of EIS goes into the bottle/carton and it keeps, and I know it is rid of
any impurities that may be there, if you have read and studied Hulda Clark's
work she makes it very clear what milk contains and why adults do not need, and
in fact use milk to their detriment 
Knowledge unused is a waste of time 
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread GARY ABEL
I went to the Andy Warhol museum in Pittsburgh.  Interesting.  There was one 
piece of art there he and a couple others made by peeing on a large sheet of (I 
think) copper.  Some kind of metal anyway.  It's been a while.





From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 12:09:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

It wasn't Andy Warhol - it was Salvador Dali - Surrealist painter.

John


On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

Andy Warhol is the guy who painted abstract stuff like clocks oozing over the 
edge of something.  Just weird stuff.  I think he would have enjoyed a shirt 
with a sleeve on the neck and an inside out zipper... :-)




- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 11:26:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not sure. 
I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail.
- Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin 
dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper


 What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?



 - Original Message 
 From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper

 Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches in
 1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve didn't
 belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of
 the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL

 - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper


 Leslie,

 There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
 That should help with figuring it out...

 Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
 1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

 Yes, Zappers work fine.

 Dan


 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:
 Any experiences here on using a zapper?

 I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
 have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to
 buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch.
 that
 baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water
 distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
 soon.
 Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

 Leslie


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Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

2010-02-12 Thread John E. Stevens
I agree, Richard.  And breast milk would be better forall of us - if we want
milk.

John

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 I have heard that before -- that milk is really not good for people at
 all.  Good for baby cows, but not for humans, even babies.

 The 3 advantages of mother's milk over store-bought milk:
 1. It's always ready
 2. It's always the right temperature
 3. Comes in more attractive containers

 --
 *From:* John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Fri, February 12, 2010 12:13:27 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

 Not really...  better than the super homenized and the super pasteurized,
 but who ever told you milk, even raw milk is good for you?  Too much mucus
 formation from all of it - raw - or the other junk food.

 John

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

  Ah…but *raw* milk IS good for you!



 L


  --

 *From:* John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:18 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles



 Hi, Sandee:

 The Chinese may have not known anything about colloidal silver water
 killing bacteria in milk until recently.  Personally, I think milk is junk
 food and I never drink it.  At first I went to Rice Milk and eventually to
 Coconut Milk which is what I use on my cereal these days.  Our milk in the
 states is too over processed - over pasteurizd and over homogenized.  From
 my research there isn't anything good, nutrient-wise, that one can digest
 and metabolize.  The vitamin D, calcium and other nutrients just wash
 through the body unused, for the most part.  The enzymes in the milk are
 dead, so there is no way to digest it.   Milk causes too much mucus to
 build up in the body.  And the mucus is not good.
 Sad, because I am a cheese lover.  Yes, I am a Hulda R. Clark reader and
 follower and what she had to say about milk is correct.  Dr. William
 Campbell Douglass II says the same thing, but there are so many folks in
 this country, and other countries, that falsely believe milk is 'good for
 you, it's hard getting the truth out there.  Off with that phony milk
 mustache

 John

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Hi There John, EIS is a preservative, it is an anti bacterial, so why
 would it take so long for them to use it
 in milk, since I started making EIS, if I do have any milk around, the
 first thing that happens is about 6
 drops of EIS goes into the bottle/carton and it keeps, and I know it is
 rid of any impurities that may be there, if you have read and studied Hulda
 Clark's work she makes it very clear what milk contains and why adults do
 not need, and in fact use milk to their detriment 
 Knowledge unused is a waste of time 
 Regards
 Sandee


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Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

2010-02-12 Thread Harvey Metzler
Nature tells the tale. Do you know of any other animal besides man that 
continues to feed their babes mother's milk when the animal is grown?


Pasteurized and Homogenized milk when given to a baby calf will kill the 
calf in a few short weeks.  The processed became popular when automatic 
milkers started dominating the large dairy farms as they did not have 
time to wipe the cow manure off the udders before snapping on the 
milking machines.  Cow manure in milk is bacteria food and spoilage 
before consumption had to be considered.  It was ok to ingest cow manure 
but we don't want you seeing spoiled milk as you might no buy it.  So, 
we heat process and cut down the long fat molecules into short fat 
molecules and make it have a longer shelf life but not be fit for human 
consumption.  We then tell you that it is a good source of calcium when 
the truth be know, it robs the body of calcium. Dairy Industry is a very 
powerful lobby.


Milk as we know it is not fit for human or baby calf consumption.



Harvey

Richard Goodwin wrote:
I have heard that before -- that milk is really not good for people at 
all.  Good for baby cows, but not for humans, even babies. 


The 3 advantages of mother's milk over store-bought milk:
1. It's always ready
2. It's always the right temperature
3. Comes in more attractive containers


*From:* John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Fri, February 12, 2010 12:13:27 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles




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CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?

2010-02-12 Thread Richard Goodwin
Anybody ever have any side effects after the STOPPED taking EIS after drinking 
it daily for a long time?


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CSsilver for lyme and babesia

2010-02-12 Thread Greg Ball

Thanks everyone for addressing my question on the difference between brands and 
home made silver! Looks like I should stick with my home made. One question: 
Steve N. said the following


I see nothing special about ACS. The ACS kill test data shows a 3 min.
kill time for ACS vs 60 minutes for Sovereign Silver. But ACS is 200 ppm
vs Sovereign Silver's 10 ppm. Just based on ppm alone I would expect ACS
to be 20 times faster and sure enough that is what the results show, If
ACS is diluted to 10 ppm I would expect it would take 60 minutes too.
And the 5 hours for Mesosilver is as expected too. It is known that it
takes time for silver particles to release enough ions to kill pathogens
and sure enough the data shows it.
 
Nothing new in the test data. EIS would be comparable to ACS if both
were at the same ppm.


Here's my question: My Silvergen machine is putting out about 12 ppm. Would 
flooding my body with my silver solution be just as good as taking small 
quantities of the ACS or and Mesosilver? Any idea how much I would need to take 
of the silvergen solution to have it be on the same level of the other two? 


Also - I'm really sorry - I'm super spacey and don't remember if someone 
explained this to me: Is EIS the same thing I make with my silvergen? Or do I 
have to do something to my silvergen solution to make it into EIS? I remember 
someone saying something about adding peroxide. If so, could you share any 
directions? Thanks




Ode Cayote: You said Could be Tetrasilver Tetroxide by another name. Are 
those two brands brownish? What is tetrasilver tetroxide, and is that a good 
thing or a bad thing? 

 



 

 
  

CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Shirley Reed
  I too have been using a zapper for about 10 years and will not willingly be 
without one.  pj


  


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CSRE: [SPAM] silver-digest Digest V2010 #182

2010-02-12 Thread Carty, William M
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Thanks.

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Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

2010-02-12 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
This just has to be a man!  dee

On 12 Feb 2010, at 17:17, Richard Goodwin wrote:

 I have heard that before -- that milk is really not good for people at all.  
 Good for baby cows, but not for humans, even babies.  
 
 The 3 advantages of mother's milk over store-bought milk:
 1. It's always ready
 2. It's always the right temperature
 3. Comes in more attractive containers
 



Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

2010-02-12 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Luckily, I have always hated milk in *any* form!  dee

On 12 Feb 2010, at 17:29, Harvey Metzler wrote:

 Nature tells the tale. Do you know of any other animal besides man that 
 continues to feed their babes mother's milk when the animal is grown?
 
 Pasteurized and Homogenized milk when given to a baby calf will kill the calf 
 in a few short weeks.  The processed became popular when automatic milkers 
 started dominating the large dairy farms as they did not have time to wipe 
 the cow manure off the udders before snapping on the milking machines.  Cow 
 manure in milk is bacteria food and spoilage before consumption had to be 
 considered.  It was ok to ingest cow manure but we don't want you seeing 
 spoiled milk as you might no buy it.  So, we heat process and cut down the 
 long fat molecules into short fat molecules and make it have a longer shelf 
 life but not be fit for human consumption.  We then tell you that it is a 
 good source of calcium when the truth be know, it robs the body of calcium. 
 Dairy Industry is a very powerful lobby.
 
 Milk as we know it is not fit for human or baby calf consumption.
 
 
 


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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread poast
Hello Leslie,

I got the one off of eBay.  It came with filters and cleaner.  I actually 
called them to discuss the improvements on the latest model and orded it at the 
end of the conversation.   I mentioned that I saw their listing on eBay and 
they gave me the eBay price.  I believe the shipping was $20.

Tom
  - Original Message - 
  From: Leslie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CSzapper


  thank you. I went to the ebay site and was wondering if the one you got was 
the Love Distiller, the new one they are showing on this page? I think on the 
Love site it is 159.00 but not sure. That is better on ebay but with 20.00 
shipping. Love includes the shipping and the cleaner and filters. 

  Thanks again,
  Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: poast 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper


Hello Leslie,

I can't help you with the zapper, but this site is supposed to be a good 
source for silver wire

http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html

I just picked up this distiller


http://cgi.ebay.com/WATER-DISTILLER-Distillers-NEWST-MODEL-ON-MARKET_W0QQitemZ160396293280QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSmall_Kitchen_Appliances_US?hash=item25585d34a0

I am quite happy with it.  To get pure water you have to remove the 
charcoal filter in the spout, but other than that it works as advertised.  I am 
double distilling and am ending up with water with 0.4 uS which is purer than I 
get at the store.

When you get around to picking up a distiller get back in touch with me and 
I will give you directions on how to double distill.

Tom
  - Original Message - 
  From: Leslie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:26 PM
  Subject: CSzapper


  Any experiences here on using a zapper? 

  I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I 
have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to buy 
some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch. that 
baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water 
distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one soon. Gets 
expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks. 

  Leslie

Re: CSsilver for lyme and babesia

2010-02-12 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
What you make with your Silvergen is EIS Gregg.  This stands for electrically 
isolated silver - commonly known as colloidal silver.  I have a Silver Puppy 
and if you set it on manual you can make the silver a higher ppm.  I expect you 
can with the SilverGen too. I don't know what the tetroxide is but it sounds 
not good. dee

On 12 Feb 2010, at 17:46, Greg Ball wrote:

 
 
 Here's my question: My Silvergen machine is putting out about 12 ppm. Would 
 flooding my body with my silver solution be just as good as taking small 
 quantities of the ACS or and Mesosilver? Any idea how much I would need to 
 take of the silvergen solution to have it be on the same level of the other 
 two? 
 
 Also - I'm really sorry - I'm super spacey and don't remember if someone 
 explained this to me: Is EIS the same thing I make with my silvergen? Or do I 
 have to do something to my silvergen solution to make it into EIS? I remember 
 someone saying something about adding peroxide. If so, could you share any 
 directions? Thanks
 
 
 Ode Cayote: You said Could be Tetrasilver Tetroxide by another name. Are 
 those two brands brownish? What is tetrasilver tetroxide, and is that a good 
 thing or a bad thing? 
  
 
  
  



Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Leslie
wonder if it would dissolve a tumor? What major things do you feel it either 
got rid of or helped you with?

thanks,
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:55 AM
Subject: CSzapper


 I too have been using a zapper for about 10 years and will not willingly 
be without one.  pj






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CSPublic Meeting to Address Codex Committee on Methods of Analysis and Sampling

2010-02-12 Thread Annie B Smythe

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News__Events/NR_021210_01/index.asp

Public Meeting to Address Codex Committee on 
Methods of Analysis and Sampling

Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:35:36 -0600

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Office of 
Food Safety and the U.S. Department of Health and 
Human Services' Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 
today announced a public meeting to provide 
information and receive comments on agenda items 
and draft U.S. positions that will be discussed at 
the 31st Session of the Codex Committee on Methods 
of Analysis and Sampling (CCMAS), to be held in 
Budapest, Hungary, March 8 - 12, 2010.


Annie
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Re: CScarol and lupus

2010-02-12 Thread carolG
Hey Dee,
My new vet also muscle tests and that has been super helpful. Forgot to mention 
in last email.

Carol





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 9:52:59 AM
Subject: Re: CScarol and lupus

I think its the proteolytic ones which are beneficial for allergies.  It is 
often protein which gets into the blood stream which causes the itching.  The 
proteolytic enzymes eat this all up so it doesn't get into the bloodstream 
undigested.  It is a fascinating subject and can even help with things like 
cancer and herpes.  dee


On 12 Feb 2010, at 16:50, carolG wrote:

HI Sweet Dorothy,
I got the dog on enzymes too but never assume...she is taking a powder that 
has lots of stuff



Re: CScarol and lupus

2010-02-12 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
you said Carol.  I have had no experience with this and tend to be sceptical 
about such things I have to admit.  However, I also believe in keeping an open 
mind about everything.  dee

On 12 Feb 2010, at 19:40, carolG wrote:

 Hey Dee,
 My new vet also muscle tests and that has been super helpful. Forgot to 
 mention in last email.
 
 Carol
 
 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 9:52:59 AM
 Subject: Re: CScarol and lupus
 
 I


CSsilver for babesia and lyme

2010-02-12 Thread Greg Ball

What you make with your Silvergen is EIS Gregg.  This stands for electrically 
isolated silver - commonly known as colloidal silver.  I have a Silver Puppy 
and if you set it on manual you can make the silver a higher ppm.  I expect you 
can with the SilverGen too. I don't know what the tetroxide is but it sounds 
not good. dee

 

Hi Dee, actually the silvergen has an automatic shut off device that I don't 
believe you can bypass. I could probably get my silver up slightly higher 
though, just by turning the knob all the way. I think the most I've gotten is 
like 15 ppm. Still not as strong as those brands, but I guess I can drink way 
more of it.  

 

By the way, does anyone know if silver works on babesia, which is a form of 
malaria and it's a protazoan. 

 

Thanks


  

Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Tel Tofflemire
You can get Hulda Clark's zapper   http:/www.drclark.com
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.






  

Re: CSSilver Maker

2010-02-12 Thread Tel Tofflemire
The Colloidal Master  is totally automatic or manual too.  I have had mine for 
12 yrs , It makes a gallon at a time and will shut off when it reaches the ppm 
you dial . It is fool proof. Last I seen they were under $140.00  ? at  
http://www.wishgranted.com  

Tell them Tel Tofflemire sent you, may get a discount, ask for Pearl, I have 
recommended many people who ask me on my website, They are all happy.Tel 
Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com




From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 1:50:32 PM
Subject: CSsilver for babesia and lyme

 What you make with your Silvergen is EIS Gregg.  This stands for electrically 
isolated silver - commonly known as colloidal silver.  I have a Silver Puppy 
and if you set it on manual you can make the silver a higher ppm.  I expect you 
can with the SilverGen too. I don't know what the tetroxide is but it sounds 
not good. dee
 
Hi Dee, actually the silvergen has an automatic shut off device that I don't 
believe you can bypass. I could probably get my silver up slightly higher 
though, just by turning the knob all the way. I think the most I've gotten is 
like 15 ppm. Still not as strong as those brands, but I guess I can drink way 
more of it.  
 
By the way, does anyone know if silver works on babesia, which is a form of 
malaria and it's a protazoan. 
 
Thanks




  

RE: CSsilver for lyme and babesia

2010-02-12 Thread Norton, Steve
Greg,
 
A good place to start is by determining how much silver ACS recommends using. 
That is much more important than the actual ppm of the solution. Ppm is mostly 
useful for determining how much silver one is taking. 

The recommended dosage for ACS 200 is:
* An initial dose of 1 to 2 ounces. One ounce of ACS 200 contains 5.9 mg of 
silver.

Then you take one of the following Daily doses:
* 5 sprays, 2 -3 times daily for a normal dosage. At three times a day that 
would equal 0.48 mg of silver

* 10 sprays, 4 times daily for a therapeutic dosage. That would equal 1.28 mg 
of silver.

ASAP silver uses H2O2 combined with their CS (EIS). To make CS equivalent to 
the ASAP follow Marshall's directions at the link below. You use the CS you 
make with your Silvergen but wait two days after making the CS before adding 
the 3% H2O2. ASAP uses more H2O2 but I don't know that that will make a 
difference. It might, by increasing the silver oxide content, which appears to 
provide the oomph of their product (per their patent). Marshall's paper:

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/real_facts_on_colloidal_silver.htm

How does H2O2 affect EIS?
When H2O2 is added to EIS (one or two drops per glass of EIS), it will be noted 
that there is an immediate clearing effect. The Tyndall (what you see if you 
shine a laser pointer though the liquid) will become very faint as well. If the 
ppm of the EIS is sufficiently high (25 to 30 ppm) a white cloudy precipitate 
may form as well. 
There are a number of reactions that occur. H2O2 is normally thought of as an 
oxidizer, but it can act as a reducer as well. Also silver is considered a 
catalyst for H2O2, but in actuality gets directly involved in the reactions. 
The H2O2 reacts with the silver particles, producing ionic silver, a 
combination of silver hydroxide and silver oxide. This makes the large 
particles disappear, reducing the tyndall. However H2O2 also reacts with the 
silver oxide and silver hydroxide producing a 2 atom colloid of silver plus 
oxygen (and water in the case of silver hydroxide). Over time this 2 atom 
colloidal particle can end up being converted back to silver oxide and silver 
hydroxide, and so forth. The final result is a mixture of ionic silver 
(hydroxide and oxide) and very small colloidal particles. Thus if you add H2O2 
to freshly made EIS, you can sometimes see the oxygen bubble off, and the 
tyndall may change significantly. But more importantly, the particulate portion 
of the EIS will go from being medium or large particles to many more very small 
particles, and the particle content will increase from a typical 5-15% to 
around 30-50%. If you have a strong tyndall from large particles, it will 
decrease, and if you have a weak or no tyndall it will increase with the 
formation of the 2 atom particles. This enhances absorption, as well as 
effectiveness. Note that it is recommended to let the EIS sit for 5 or more 
minutes if you do add H2O2 to it to let it stabilize. 

The amounts equivalent to the ACS doses, for your 12 ppm CS are:

For 5.9 mg of silver take 16.9 ounces of 12 ppm CS.
For 0.40 mg of silver take 1.1 ounces of 12 ppm CS
For 1.28 mg of silver take 3.5 ounces of 12 ppm CS

I think that those amounts will be equal to or better than what you will get 
with ACS 200 or Mesosilver. 


However, personally I would reduce the initial and therapeutic dosages to 
something lower. I would cut both in half. For the initial dose, I would take 4 
oz of CS with H2O2 in the morning followed at least 3 hours later by 4 oz of CS 
in 8 oz of Gatorade. I would also cut the therapeutic dosage in half and split 
it between CS/H2O2 and CS/Gatorade. Again taken at different times.

The CS/Gatorade combination will provide some silver citrate to your daily 
dose. Personally, I think that is a beneficial addition. Take a look at the 
kill times ACS 200 publishes:
http://www.resultsrna.com/research/acs_200_comparing_kill_kinetics_of_the_leading_antimicrobials.php
Now look at kill times for 30 ppm silver citrate:
http://www.purebio.com/products/sdc_hard_surface

The kill times of the 30 ppm silver citrate are equal to those of 200 ppm ACS 
200. I would expect the use of Gatorade will give you equal to or better 
performance while reducing the total amount of silver consumed daily. It also 
keeps average silver consumed to less than 1 mg per day, something I recommend. 
The last part with Gatorade is just my personal opinion. Others may not agree.

 - Steve N



From: Greg Ball [mailto:granb...@msn.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSsilver for lyme and babesia

Thanks everyone for addressing my question on the difference between brands and 
home made silver! Looks like I should stick with my home made. One question: 
Steve N. said the following

I see nothing special about ACS. The ACS kill test data shows a 3 min.
kill time for ACS vs 60 minutes for Sovereign Silver. But ACS is 200 ppm
vs Sovereign 

Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?

2010-02-12 Thread cyndiann

Richard Goodwin wrote:

Anybody ever have any side effects after the STOPPED taking EIS after drinking 
it daily for a long time?




Yeah, I catch a cold. I don't think it is a side effect though, I think 
I just lose my protection from germs.


Cyndi


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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread leslie
I am one of a kind but not that wierd. Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: GARY ABEL 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: CSzapper


  I went to the Andy Warhol museum in Pittsburgh.  Interesting.  There was one 
piece of art there he and a couple others made by peeing on a large sheet of (I 
think) copper.  Some kind of metal anyway.  It's been a while.




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  From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 12:09:16 PM
  Subject: Re: CSzapper

  It wasn't Andy Warhol - it was Salvador Dali - Surrealist painter.

  John


  On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

Andy Warhol is the guy who painted abstract stuff like clocks oozing over 
the edge of something.  Just weird stuff.  I think he would have enjoyed a 
shirt with a sleeve on the neck and an inside out zipper... :-)




- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 11:26:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not 
sure. I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail.
- Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin 
dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper


 What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?



 - Original Message 
 From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper

 Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches 
in
 1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve 
didn't
 belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of
 the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL

 - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper


 Leslie,

 There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
 That should help with figuring it out...

 Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
 1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

 Yes, Zappers work fine.

 Dan


 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net 
wrote:
 Any experiences here on using a zapper?

 I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
 have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want 
to
 buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch.
 that
 baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a 
water
 distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
 soon.
 Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

 Leslie


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RE: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

2010-02-12 Thread Lisa
And yes I guess that was my fault believing that that part was understood.
Raw milk is way better for you than store bought.but still one should never
use it as their primary source liquid (due to the mucous factor).

 

L

 

  _  

From: John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

 

Not really...  better than the super homenized and the super pasteurized,
but who ever told you milk, even raw milk is good for you?  Too much mucus
formation from all of it - raw - or the other junk food.

John

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

Ah.but raw milk IS good for you!

 

L

 

  _  

From: John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

 

Hi, Sandee:

The Chinese may have not known anything about colloidal silver water killing
bacteria in milk until recently.  Personally, I think milk is junk food
and I never drink it.  At first I went to Rice Milk and eventually to
Coconut Milk which is what I use on my cereal these days.  Our milk in the
states is too over processed - over pasteurizd and over homogenized.  From
my research there isn't anything good, nutrient-wise, that one can digest
and metabolize.  The vitamin D, calcium and other nutrients just wash
through the body unused, for the most part.  The enzymes in the milk are
dead, so there is no way to digest it.   Milk causes too much mucus to
build up in the body.  And the mucus is not good.
Sad, because I am a cheese lover.  Yes, I am a Hulda R. Clark reader and
follower and what she had to say about milk is correct.  Dr. William
Campbell Douglass II says the same thing, but there are so many folks in
this country, and other countries, that falsely believe milk is 'good for
you, it's hard getting the truth out there.  Off with that phony milk
mustache  

John

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:

Hi There John, EIS is a preservative, it is an anti bacterial, so why would
it take so long for them to use it
in milk, since I started making EIS, if I do have any milk around, the first
thing that happens is about 6
drops of EIS goes into the bottle/carton and it keeps, and I know it is rid
of any impurities that may be there, if you have read and studied Hulda
Clark's work she makes it very clear what milk contains and why adults do
not need, and in fact use milk to their detriment 
Knowledge unused is a waste of time 
Regards
Sandee


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CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread Gina Moore
So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection.  I don’t do doctors, but I am
a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her ears are infected.
Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a cup), plus Vit D, cod liver
oil, etc…  I try to do natural remedies as much as possible!

 

What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard of putting Hydrogen Peroxide
in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she’s only 3 and may not do
that well!  I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture – any particular
ratio that seems to work best?  Or is there some other remedy that would
work well?  I’m up for anything at this point!

 

Thanks so much!

Gina

 



RE: CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread Lisa
My mom used to put hydrogen peroxide in my ears when I was little – and I
can remember it being very cold (so a suggestion there would be to warm it
up by letting it sit in warm water) and that it felt weird as it sank down
into the ear. Your daughter my not go for that either. But, what I’ve done
with my kids at times is use those big, puffy, Q-tips that are for small
children – you can’t force them far into the ear…and dip that until it’s
saturated with hydrogen peroxide. Then you can swab the ear as best you can.


 

Worth a shot anyway…

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Gina Moore [mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSear infection

 

So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection.  I don’t do doctors, but I am
a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her ears are infected.
Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a cup), plus Vit D, cod liver
oil, etc…  I try to do natural remedies as much as possible!

 

What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard of putting Hydrogen Peroxide
in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she’s only 3 and may not do
that well!  I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture – any particular
ratio that seems to work best?  Or is there some other remedy that would
work well?  I’m up for anything at this point!

 

Thanks so much!

Gina

 



Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles

2010-02-12 Thread Dave Darrin
Lisa ,John,Dee and all other milk bashers;
  Since every one is different a blanket statement like that is not  always
true.
I have never had a mucous build up from milk. It's the only thing that makes
me feel refreshed, Not water or juice. I drink a tall glass with every meal
and sometimes in between.
 Back in the good old days about 45 years ago I was a heavy drinker. I was
snowed-in in Idaho for a winter and the tavern owner in the ghost town
(seasonal) left the bunker keys, where he stored the beer,with me as he
thought I would go into withdrawal and we could settle up in the spring.  I
never opened the bunker,the only thing I craved was a tall cold glass of
milk so I walked and skied 16 miles to a dairy farm and packed home two
gallons of milk,OH WAS that good!
Dave

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

  And yes I guess that was my fault believing that that part was
 “understood”. Raw milk is way better for you than store bought…but still one
 should never use it as their primary source liquid (due to the mucous
 factor).



 L


  --

 *From:* John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2010 12:13 PM

 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles



 Not really...  better than the super homenized and the super pasteurized,
 but who ever told you milk, even raw milk is good for you?  Too much mucus
 formation from all of it - raw - or the other junk food.

 John

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

 Ah…but *raw* milk IS good for you!



 L


  --

 *From:* John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:18 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSFwd: Safer Milk With Silver Nanoparticles



 Hi, Sandee:

 The Chinese may have not known anything about colloidal silver water
 killing bacteria in milk until recently.  Personally, I think milk is junk
 food and I never drink it.  At first I went to Rice Milk and eventually to
 Coconut Milk which is what I use on my cereal these days.  Our milk in the
 states is too over processed - over pasteurizd and over homogenized.  From
 my research there isn't anything good, nutrient-wise, that one can digest
 and metabolize.  The vitamin D, calcium and other nutrients just wash
 through the body unused, for the most part.  The enzymes in the milk are
 dead, so there is no way to digest it.   Milk causes too much mucus to
 build up in the body.  And the mucus is not good.
 Sad, because I am a cheese lover.  Yes, I am a Hulda R. Clark reader and
 follower and what she had to say about milk is correct.  Dr. William
 Campbell Douglass II says the same thing, but there are so many folks in
 this country, and other countries, that falsely believe milk is 'good for
 you, it's hard getting the truth out there.  Off with that phony milk
 mustache

 John

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Hi There John, EIS is a preservative, it is an anti bacterial, so why would
 it take so long for them to use it
 in milk, since I started making EIS, if I do have any milk around, the
 first thing that happens is about 6
 drops of EIS goes into the bottle/carton and it keeps, and I know it is rid
 of any impurities that may be there, if you have read and studied Hulda
 Clark's work she makes it very clear what milk contains and why adults do
 not need, and in fact use milk to their detriment 
 Knowledge unused is a waste of time 
 Regards
 Sandee


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Re: CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread Leslie
I always use Peroxide and then thruout the day and night put CS in the ears. 
Peroxide kills the infection but you just put a drop of two in there and let it 
work its way on into the ear canal. Don't do too much as would probably bother 
her. Even a drop would help from time to time.
Leslie 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gina Moore 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:29 PM
  Subject: CSear infection


  So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection.  I don't do doctors, but I am 
a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her ears are infected.  
Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a cup), plus Vit D, cod liver oil, 
etc.  I try to do natural remedies as much as possible!

   

  What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard of putting Hydrogen Peroxide 
in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she's only 3 and may not do that 
well!  I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture - any particular ratio that 
seems to work best?  Or is there some other remedy that would work well?  I'm 
up for anything at this point!

   

  Thanks so much!

  Gina

   


CSzapper effects

2010-02-12 Thread Shirley Reed
  The serious pain of what the doc called a 'whopper' of a hell spur 
disappeared in about one hour.  The tremendous fatigue of cancer was so greatly 
lessened in less than 3 weeks that I felt I had gotten my life back.  
Electricity has been used for health enhancement since shortly after the Leyden 
jar was invented.  The ancients had gout sufferers stand on a torpedo fish for 
relief.  The Desideratum by John Wesley can be accessed in full on 
books.google.com and in it from pg 42 Wesley tells of startling health 
improvements he witnessed or had reliable testimony regarding.  Probably no one 
will call Wesley a liar.  He founded at least 2 and maybe 4 free clinics for 
the poor in London and used electricity to treat and cure so very many things 
and so quickly.  And so cheaply.  That spelling for the spur is deliberate.  It 
is actually a heel spur, but the other name fits it as least as well.   pj


  


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Re: CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread sol

At 05:29 PM 2/12/2010, you wrote:


What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard 
of putting Hydrogen Peroxide in the ears and 
letting it sit for a bit, but she’s only 3 and 
may not do that well!  I have DMSO and could do 
a CS/DMSO mixture – any particular ratio that 
seems to work best?  Or is there some other 
remedy that would work well?  I’m up for anything at this point!




For my pets I use ear drops my formula is 1 oz 
EIS (CS), 1/2 tsp MSM (pure crystals or powder, 
no fillers), 3 to 5 drops DMSO (99% pure).
I warm it to body temperature  then put a whole 
dropper full into one ear, massage the base of 
the ear a bit to try to get the solution as far 
into the ear canal as possible, then let the 
animal shake it out. Even though it is shaken out 
virtually immediately, this was very effective 
for an acute ear infection, used in conjunction 
with nebulizing the same mix. 2 or 3 times a day 
if tolerated. I think 3 times is better, at least 
for the first 3 days. Important to be sure the 
eardrum is not ruptured, obviously. But you'd 
have seen that when checking with the scope

sol 

Re: CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread Donna
I hope you get it cleared up she can go deaf from an ear infection, alot 
of my cousins are because their parents didn't do doctors either.


ECHINACEA http://www.herbalremediesinfo.com/Echinacea.html Used as a 
tincture to reduce drainage and speed healing.


GARLIC OIL http://www.herbalremediesinfo.com/GARLIC.html Is applied to 
a cotton ball and placed inside ear to help fight infection.


Put few drops of garlic juice into the infected ear. Use blow dryer from 
about 12 to 15 inches from your head, this will remove any water trapped 
in the Eustachian tube. Put some olive oil on the warm spoon; put 2 to 3 
drops of this in each ear. Put few drops of lobelia extract into the 
infected ear and rub it gently. Wash your ear using colloidal silver, it 
is a natural antibiotic. Slightly warm one teaspoon of juice of the 
mango leaf and put it into the infected ear drop by drop.
Take vitamin C to boost your immune system, it will help you to combat 
infection. Increase Zinc intake, it reduces ear infection. Eat a healthy 
diet with lots of calcium in it. Avoid processed foods and hydrogenated 
oils.


Donna ACS

So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection.  I don't do doctors, 
but I am a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her 
ears are infected.  Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a 
cup), plus Vit D, cod liver oil, etc...  I try to do natural remedies 
as much as possible!


What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard of putting Hydrogen 
Peroxide in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she's only 3 
and may not do that well!  I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture 
-- any particular ratio that seems to work best?  Or is there some 
other remedy that would work well?  I'm up for anything at this point!


Thanks so much!

Gina





Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?

2010-02-12 Thread Marshalee Hallett
I too will catch a cold, and get UTIs, and my dog`s breath starts getting
stinky again when she doesn`t get it for a week or so.
CS is a preventive. I take it about 3 times a week, or more if anything is
going around.
Almost 14 years now!
 So far, so wonderful!!
Marshalee

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Anybody ever have any side effects after the STOPPED taking EIS after
 drinking it daily for a long time?








RE: CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread kath
I’ve used garlic/mullin oil from the health food store for ear infections.  

Kathy

 

From: Gina Moore [mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSear infection

 

So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection.  I don’t do doctors, but I am
a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her ears are infected.
Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a cup), plus Vit D, cod liver
oil, etc…  I try to do natural remedies as much as possible!

 

What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard of putting Hydrogen Peroxide
in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she’s only 3 and may not do
that well!  I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture – any particular
ratio that seems to work best?  Or is there some other remedy that would
work well?  I’m up for anything at this point!

 

Thanks so much!

Gina

 



Re: CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread Leslie
Do you have a heating pad? After you put the luke warm oil in, let her lay on a 
slightly warm pad and betcha she goes to sleep. 
Let us know tomorrow, ok? Be praying in the meantime for her. Bless her heart!
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: kath 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:25 PM
  Subject: RE: CSear infection


  I've used garlic/mullin oil from the health food store for ear infections.  

  Kathy

   

  From: Gina Moore [mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net] 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:30 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSear infection

   

  So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection.  I don't do doctors, but I am 
a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her ears are infected.  
Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a cup), plus Vit D, cod liver oil, 
etc.  I try to do natural remedies as much as possible!

   

  What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard of putting Hydrogen Peroxide 
in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she's only 3 and may not do that 
well!  I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture - any particular ratio that 
seems to work best?  Or is there some other remedy that would work well?  I'm 
up for anything at this point!

   

  Thanks so much!

  Gina