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2015-01-05 Thread Floyd Petri
I am new to the forum. I think that I have read everything that I need to
read, but I still have a couple questions to be on the safe side. Under No
Commercial Activity does that mean that I cannot ask if someone has had any
bad experiences with a particular manufactured colloidal silver generator?
Would they recommend it or not? Or found any problems with it electrically,
mechanically or reliability, etc.?

 

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2015-01-05 Thread Dee
I take D3 as cholecalciferol combined with K2...not noticed any ill 
effects...Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 did you say D3 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep skin.  It has 
 always caused a problem for me, too much urination. Jess
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandra George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C 
 – LewRockwell.com
 
 Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the killer of humanity 
 - no one wants to take responsibility for self - like yourself and many 
 others I myself got tired of talking to the air and stopped - the result is 
 that life is so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 13:37, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 
 Sandra,
 Thank you for such a beautiful reply.
 Unfortunately, when I can actually see what is wrong with a person, all they 
 want is a pill to help, ie feet, hands, legs, face, tongue, obesity,back 
 problems and etc..  They do not wish to do any exercises or do anything 
 different.  I get extremely frustrated enough so that I quit giving classes, 
 although I had many people, it was always the same, I feel like I am talking 
 to myself.
 They especially do not want to research but they spend most of the day on 
 facebook or twitter but to actually care for themselves absolutely not.
 I have been on this list since 99 it has literally saved my life.
 
 May God bless and keep you well
 did you say D3 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep skin.  It has 
 always caused a problem for me, too much urination. Jess
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandra George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C 
 – LewRockwell.com
 
 Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the killer of humanity 
 - no one wants to take responsibility for self - like yourself and many 
 others I myself got tired of talking to the air and stopped - the result is 
 that life is so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 13:37, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 
 Sandra,
 Thank you for such a beautiful reply.
 Unfortunately, when I can actually see what is wrong with a person, all they 
 want is a pill to help, ie feet, hands, legs, face, tongue, obesity,back 
 problems and etc..  They do not wish to do any exercises or do anything 
 different.  I get extremely frustrated enough so that I quit giving classes, 
 although I had many people, it was always the same, I feel like I am talking 
 to myself.
 They especially do not want to research but they spend most of the day on 
 facebook or twitter but to actually care for themselves absolutely not.
 I have been on this list since 99 it has literally saved my life.
 
 May God bless and keep you well
 Mary
 On Sun, 1/4/15, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – 
 LewRockwell.com
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, January 4, 2015, 7:56 AM
 
 Mary you are a name sake
 of a very good friend of mine who departed this planet with all of her 
 wonderful wisdom some few years ago - one of the things I remember her for is 
 - life is all about management
 !!You are so correct
 here we go
 again with the dishonesty, deliberate confusion created in the name of 
 marketing - and more - man’s inhumanity to man has no bounds and never will 
 !
 Have a
 wonderful 2015 and thanks for your insight.
 Sandee
 Attitude is
 everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye
 Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 4
 Jan 2015, at 11:34, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 
 Sandra
 I am a health researcher
 before taking vit c check your vit c out. I had a friend who called me was 
 taking 5000iu daily but was not getting better.  Doing research found out it 
 was made from corn although it did not state it on the bottle, found out she 
 was allergic to corn.
 Likewise apple cider
 vinegar Heinz brand is made from corn ethanol. I state this because it also 
 is not stated on the bottle.
 I know this situation is getting worse so I must dig more to find out what is 
 in products.
 Another one I have been researching for 5 yrs is vit(hormone)d3.  According 
 to the USDA  website pill,capsule,liquid etc form can be a mouse poison.  
 Again this is not 

CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread moxaman
I've been taking D3 along with K1 and K2 for years with no problems 
whatsoever.  I take Innate Brand 5000IU which contains FoodState K1 and K2 
made from natto, a fermented soy product.  The only side effect I've had is 
far fewer colds and no flu's over the past several years.


Bob

-Original Message- 
From: mborg...@att.net

Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 5:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the 
Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com



Dee
d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse 
poison.
Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 
keeps the body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be 
taking lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people with certain 
conditions should not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol

Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind.
Never take any vitamins unless you research first.
Mary

On 5 Jan 2015, at

06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net
wrote:


did you

say D3 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
skin.  It has always caused a problem for me, too much
urination. Jess




-Original Message-

From: Sandra

George [mailto:oha...@juno.com]

Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
To: Mike Devour - Silver List
Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:

CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
LewRockwell.com




Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the
killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility for
self - like yourself and many others I myself got tired of
talking to the air and stopped - the result is that life is
so much easier, pleasant and fun 



Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight

Sandee
Attitude

is everything !!!

Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 4 Jan 2015, at

13:37, mborg...@att.net
wrote:


Sandra,
Thank you for such a beautiful reply.
Unfortunately, when I can actually see

what is wrong with a person, all they want is a pill to
help, ie feet, hands, legs, face, tongue, obesity,back
problems and etc..  They do not wish to do any exercises or
do anything different.  I get extremely frustrated enough
so that I quit giving classes, although I had many people,
it was always the same, I feel like I am talking to
myself.

They especially do not want to

research but they spend most of the day on facebook or
twitter but to actually care for themselves absolutely
not.

I have been on this list since 99

it has literally saved my life.


May God bless and keep you well
did you say D3 from a mouse poison? I

thought it was from sheep skin.  It has always caused a
problem for me, too much urination. Jess


-Original

Message-

From: Sandra George

[mailto:oha...@juno.com]

Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
To: Mike Devour - Silver List
Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:

CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
LewRockwell.com




Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the
killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility for
self - like yourself and many others I myself got tired of
talking to the air and stopped - the result is that life is
so much easier, pleasant and fun 



Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight

Sandee
Attitude

is everything !!!

Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 4 Jan 2015, at

13:37, mborg...@att.net
wrote:


Sandra,
Thank you for such a beautiful reply.
Unfortunately, when I can actually see

what is wrong with a person, all they want is a pill to
help, ie feet, hands, legs, face, tongue, obesity,back
problems and etc..  They do not wish to do any exercises or
do anything different.  I get extremely frustrated enough
so that I quit giving classes, although I had many people,
it was always the same, I feel like I am talking to
myself.

They especially do not want to

research but they spend most of the day on facebook or
twitter but to actually care for themselves absolutely
not.

I have been on this list since 99

it has literally saved my life.


May God bless and keep you well


Mary

On Sun, 1/4/15, Sandra George oha...@juno.com

wrote:


Subject:

CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on
Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

To:

Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com

Date: Sunday, January 4, 2015, 7:56 AM

Mary you are a name

sake

of a very good friend of mine who

departed this planet with all of her wonderful wisdom some
few years ago - one of the things I remember her for is -
life is all about management

!!

  You are so correct

here we go
again with the dishonesty, deliberate

confusion created in the name of marketing - and more -
man’s inhumanity to man has no bounds and never will
!

Have a


wonderful 2015 and thanks for your insight.

Sandee
Attitude

is


Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Judy Knowlton
Thank you, Victor – no, it is a tooth infection that has flared after stopping 
CS too soon.
JDM

From: Victor Cozzetto 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

Resistance is not possible. No pathogen can survive in the presence of CS. Of 
course there are many variables that affect that statement, such as CS quality, 
quantity, the ability to reach the pathogen, etc. 

Also, make sure that you are not mistaking disease symptoms with toxin 
symptoms. I just had this situation in my own household, where my wife had flu 
like symptoms. The house was being painted and repaired for a month, and she 
was sick through all of it - but only on the weekends - when she was in the 
house. She first suspected something was wrong with our CS, but I was pretty 
certain it was the chemicals, and now we know. Detox was what was needed.

There are many things that can make us ill. Pathogens, toxins, poor diet, etc.

Victor




On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
wrote:

  Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are 
highly resistant to CS?
  I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is 
not possible.
  My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
  Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
  Judy Down Maine


Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS - ONE GENERATION

2015-01-05 Thread Judy Knowlton
Hi, Ode.
One generation?  Like a maximum of a couple of weeks?  
JDM

From: Ode Coyote 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

In nature there are bugs that become resistant to silver in the soil, but that 
resistance [ tolerance? ] disappears in one generation after being removed from 
the presence of silver.

Ode


On 1/5/2015 7:56 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

  Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are 
highly resistant to CS?
  I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is 
not possible.
  My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
  Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
  Judy Down Maine





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CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Judy Knowlton
Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are 
highly resistant to CS?
I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is not 
possible.
My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
Judy Down Maine

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2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

Safest form of D3 is cod liver oil , salmon, sardines, and the absolute best SUN

 Subject: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on 
Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, January 4, 2015, 10:56 PM
 
 did you say D3 from a mouse poison? I
 thought it was from sheep skin.  It has always caused a
 problem for me, too much urination. Jess
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandra George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
 Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility for
 self - like yourself and many others I myself got tired of
 talking to the air and stopped - the result is that life is
 so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 13:37, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 Sandra,
 Thank you for such a beautiful reply.
 Unfortunately, when I can actually see what is wrong with a
 person, all they want is a pill to help, ie feet, hands,
 legs, face, tongue, obesity,back problems and etc.. 
 They do not wish to do any exercises or do anything
 different.  I get extremely frustrated enough so that I
 quit giving classes, although I had many people, it was
 always the same, I feel like I am talking to myself.
 They especially do not want to research but they spend most
 of the day on facebook or twitter but to actually care for
 themselves absolutely not.
 I have been on this list since 99 it has literally saved my
 life.
 
 May God bless and keep you well
 Mary
 On Sun, 1/4/15, Sandra George oha...@juno.com
 wrote:
 
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the
 Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, January 4, 2015, 7:56 AM
 
 Mary you are a name sake
 of a very good friend of mine who departed this planet with
 all of her wonderful wisdom some few years ago - one of the
 things I remember her for is - life is all about management
 !!    You are so correct
 here we go
 again with the dishonesty, deliberate confusion created in
 the name of marketing - and more - man’s inhumanity to man
 has no bounds and never will !
 Have a
 wonderful 2015 and thanks for your insight.
 Sandee
 Attitude is
 everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye
 Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 4
 Jan 2015, at 11:34, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 
 Sandra
 I am a health researcher
 before taking vit c check your vit c out. I had a friend who
 called me was taking 5000iu daily but was not getting
 better.  Doing research found out it was made from corn
 although it did not state it on the bottle, found out she
 was allergic to corn.
 Likewise apple cider
 vinegar Heinz brand is made from corn ethanol. I state this
 because it also is not stated on the bottle.
 I know this situation is getting worse so I must dig more to
 find out what is in products.
 Another one I have been researching for 5 yrs is
 vit(hormone)d3.  According to the USDA  website
 pill,capsule,liquid etc form can be a mouse poison. 
 Again this is not stated on the bottle
 Mary
 On Sat, 1/3/15, Sandra George oha...@juno.com
 wrote:
 
 Subject: CSRe:
 CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, January 3, 2015, 6:09 PM
 
 Thanks for this one TJ -
 it is fascinating to me, having had long discussions over
 the Season with researchers into virus, that penetration is
 the one block for anything - the mere fact that a virus is
 not considered to be ALIVE makes it even
 more fascinating to me.   
 Which brings me to
 the bottom line - that it
 is not possible to always reach a
 virus at
 all.
 Keeping the immune system at
 the highest level of health appears to be the only defence
 we can hope to achieve with
 virus    
 After
 my own personal experience with the Chicken V - knowing how
 it has weakened my body, immune system and generally aged me
 to a very serious degree - a virus is no joke - herpes is
 nothing compared to others out there believe me, I have
 suffered from outbreaks of this one over at least 55 years
 of life - having watched this video I will now pay more
 attention as to how this one now works with the knowledge of
 Vit C from this video - I usually take at least 2000 of Vit
 C every day - was this what helped to stave off the Chicken
 for as long as it did before the virus won ? 
    I do not think I was taking that
 much Vit C
 during the first three weeks of
 the event, as I was
 concentrating more on
 the 

Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Resistance is not possible. No pathogen can survive in the presence of CS.
Of course there are many variables that affect that statement, such as CS
quality, quantity, the ability to reach the pathogen, etc.

Also, make sure that you are not mistaking disease symptoms with toxin
symptoms. I just had this situation in my own household, where my wife had
flu like symptoms. The house was being painted and repaired for a month,
and she was sick through all of it - but only on the weekends - when she
was in the house. She first suspected something was wrong with our CS, but
I was pretty certain it was the chemicals, and now we know. Detox was what
was needed.

There are many things that can make us ill. Pathogens, toxins, poor diet,
etc.

Victor



On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
wrote:

   Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus)
 that are highly resistant to CS?
 I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance
 is not possible.
 My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
 Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
 Judy Down Maine



Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Ode Coyote
In nature there are bugs that become resistant to silver in the soil, 
but that resistance [ tolerance? ] disappears in one generation after 
being removed from the presence of silver.


Ode

On 1/5/2015 7:56 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:
Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) 
that are highly resistant to CS?
I had understood from this List that CS works differently and 
resistance is not possible.

My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
Judy Down Maine




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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Ah, I should have emphasized in vivo - meaning in the body. Note too that
nothing should ever be stated so absolutely, but it is the case with CS, as
far as current knowledge and experience go.

Victor

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@silverpuppy.com
wrote:

  In nature there are bugs that become resistant to silver in the soil, but
 that resistance [ tolerance? ] disappears in one generation after being
 removed from the presence of silver.

 Ode

 On 1/5/2015 7:56 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

  Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus)
 that are highly resistant to CS?
 I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance
 is not possible.
 My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
 Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
 Judy Down Maine




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2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

Dee
d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse poison.  
Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 keeps 
the body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be  taking 
lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people with certain conditions should 
not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol
Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind.
Never take any vitamins unless you research first.
Mary
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
 06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net
 wrote:
  
  did you
 say D3 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
 skin.  It has always caused a problem for me, too much
 urination. Jess
  
 
 -Original Message-
  From: Sandra
 George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
  To: Mike Devour - Silver List
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 LewRockwell.com
  
 
 Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility for
 self - like yourself and many others I myself got tired of
 talking to the air and stopped - the result is that life is
 so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight
  Sandee
  Attitude
 is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com
  
  
  
  On 4 Jan 2015, at
 13:37, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  
  Sandra,
  Thank you for such a beautiful reply.
  Unfortunately, when I can actually see
 what is wrong with a person, all they want is a pill to
 help, ie feet, hands, legs, face, tongue, obesity,back
 problems and etc..  They do not wish to do any exercises or
 do anything different.  I get extremely frustrated enough
 so that I quit giving classes, although I had many people,
 it was always the same, I feel like I am talking to
 myself.
  They especially do not want to
 research but they spend most of the day on facebook or
 twitter but to actually care for themselves absolutely
 not.
  I have been on this list since 99
 it has literally saved my life.
  
  May God bless and keep you well
  did you say D3 from a mouse poison? I
 thought it was from sheep skin.  It has always caused a
 problem for me, too much urination. Jess
  
  -Original
 Message-
  From: Sandra George
 [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
  To: Mike Devour - Silver List
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 LewRockwell.com
  
 
 Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility for
 self - like yourself and many others I myself got tired of
 talking to the air and stopped - the result is that life is
 so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight
  Sandee
  Attitude
 is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com
  
  
  
  On 4 Jan 2015, at
 13:37, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  
  Sandra,
  Thank you for such a beautiful reply.
  Unfortunately, when I can actually see
 what is wrong with a person, all they want is a pill to
 help, ie feet, hands, legs, face, tongue, obesity,back
 problems and etc..  They do not wish to do any exercises or
 do anything different.  I get extremely frustrated enough
 so that I quit giving classes, although I had many people,
 it was always the same, I feel like I am talking to
 myself.
  They especially do not want to
 research but they spend most of the day on facebook or
 twitter but to actually care for themselves absolutely
 not.
  I have been on this list since 99
 it has literally saved my life.
  
  May God bless and keep you well
 
 Mary
  On Sun, 1/4/15, Sandra George oha...@juno.com
 wrote:
  
  Subject:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on
 Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
  To:
 Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Sunday, January 4, 2015, 7:56 AM
  
  Mary you are a name
 sake
  of a very good friend of mine who
 departed this planet with all of her wonderful wisdom some
 few years ago - one of the things I remember her for is -
 life is all about management
  !! 
   You are so correct
  here we go
  again with the dishonesty, deliberate
 confusion created in the name of marketing - and more -
 man’s inhumanity to man has no bounds and never will
 !
  Have a
 
 wonderful 2015 and thanks for your insight.
  Sandee
  Attitude
 is
  everything !!!
 
 Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver
 Products
  Eye
  Drops
  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com
  
  
  
  On 4
  Jan 2015, at 11:34, mborg...@att.net
  wrote:
  
  
  Sandra
  I am a health researcher
  before taking vit c check your vit c out.
 I had a friend who called me was taking 5000iu daily but was
 not getting better.  Doing research 

RE: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Nenah Sylver
Judy,

I don't remember exactly where I read this-but I believe it was from a
colleague I trust. She said that buglets can develop a temporary
resistance, but after the CS is withdrawn for an undetermined period of time
(I don't think it was for long), resistance would no longer be an issue.

 

I never like to use the same thing-whether it's a food, herb, supplement-for
too long. My body likes things to be rotated. So I do.

 

Best,

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health

and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

 http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com

 

 

 

  _  

From: Judy Knowlton [mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 5:56 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

 

Are we producing one-cell buglets (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that
are highly resistant to CS?

I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is
not possible.

My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.

Please, you research Mavens, clarify!

Judy Down Maine

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Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Dee
But cod liver oil contains a lot of D2 and also high doses of vitamin A which 
is not advisable...Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 13:19, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 Safest form of D3 is cod liver oil , salmon, sardines, and the absolute best 
 SUN
 
 Subject: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on 
 Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, January 4, 2015, 10:56 PM
 
 did you say D3 from a mouse poison? I
 thought it was from sheep skin.  It has always caused a
 problem for me, too much urination. Jess
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandra George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
 Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility for
 self - like yourself and many others I myself got tired of
 talking to the air and stopped - the result is that life is
 so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 13:37, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 Sandra,
 Thank you for such a beautiful reply.


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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread PT Ferrance
I'm in the same situation.  I would love to find something that supported my 
system that I could just take like clockwork for extended periods of time but 
it doesn't work for me.  Eventually taking the same thing for a long time makes 
me feel ill and I have to switch off to something else.  The problem is there 
is nothing else like CS... is there?
PT

 



 From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS
 


 
Judy,
I don’t remember exactly where I read
this—but I believe it was from a colleague I trust. She said that “buglets” can
develop a temporary resistance, but after the CS is withdrawn for an
undetermined period of time (I don’t think it was for long), resistance would
no longer be an issue.
 
I never like to use the same thing—whether
it’s a food, herb, supplement—for too long. My body likes things to be rotated.
So I do.
 
Best,
Nenah
 
Nenah Sylver, PhD
author, The Rife Handbook
of Frequency Therapy and
Holistic Health
and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
www.nenahsylver.com
 
 
 


 
From:Judy Knowlton
[mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015
5:56 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRephrasing question
-- resistance to CS
 
Are we producing
one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are highly resistant
to CS?
I had understood from
this List that CS works differently and resistance is not possible.
My son is having an
experience that might say otherwise.
Please, you research
Mavens, clarify!
Judy Down Maine
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Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Dee
I use the MK-7 form of vitamin K which you should always take when 
supplementing with D3 and when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you mean? 
There are many things which would be poisonous to some species while being fine 
for others.  Mercola who I trust implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol.  

I find it very difficult to obtain D3 from natural sources as I do not like 
fish and cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of exposure that is 
required to be beneficial which is why I supplementDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 13:40, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 Dee
 d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse 
 poison.  
 Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 
 keeps the body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be  
 taking lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people with certain 
 conditions should not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol
 Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind.
 Never take any vitamins unless you research first.
 Mary
 On 5 Jan 2015, at
 06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
 did you
 say D3 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
 skin.  It has always caused a problem for me, too much
 urination. Jess
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandra
 George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51 AM
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 LewRockwell.com
 Hi There Mary - agreed instant cure mentality will be the
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility for
 self - like yourself and many others I myself got tired of
 talking to the air and stopped - the result is that life is
 so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed with insight
 Sandee
 Attitude


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Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Dee
Yes my K2 comes from natto tooDee

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 On 5 Jan 2015, at 14:01, moxaman bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I've been taking D3 along with K1 and K2 for years with no problems 
 whatsoever.  I take Innate Brand 5000IU which contains FoodState K1 and K2 
 made from natto, a fermented soy product.  The only side effect I've had is 
 far fewer colds and no flu's over the past several years.
 
 Bob
 
 -Original Message- From: mborg...@att.net
 Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 5:40 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the 
 Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
 
 Dee
 d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse poison.
 Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 
 keeps the body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be taking 
 lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people with certain conditions 
 should not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol
 Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind.
 Never take any vitamins unless you research first.
 Mary
 On 5 Jan 2015, at
 06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
 did you
 say D3 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
 skin.  It has always caused a problem for me, too much
 urination. Jess
 
 
 -Original Message-


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CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

Dee
Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type 
in USDA d3.
One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made by 
Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every time.
Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research.
Why does everyone get so defensive about d3??? If you like it well, but if you 
bleed out 3 pints of blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up 
calcium and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain barrier.
I follow Dr. Mercola but never believe in anyone always check out everything
.I followed him with d3 thing in the beginning he only sold d3 alone, but than 
he started adding vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he added 
calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why?

Do not get mad at me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the 
30's very interesting.  I have studied this for 5 yrs.  You do the same.
Mary  
iOn 
Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the 
Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM
 
 I use the MK-7 form of
 vitamin K which you should always take when supplementing
 with D3 and when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you
 mean? There are many things which would be poisonous to some
 species while being fine for others.  Mercola who I trust
 implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol.  
 
 I find it very difficult to
 obtain D3 from natural sources as I do not like fish and
 cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of
 exposure that is required to be beneficial which is why I
 supplementDee
 
 Sent from
 my iPad
 
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
 13:40, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  
  
  Dee
  d3(hormone) as
 cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse
 poison.  
  Look up USDA( United States
 Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 keeps the
 body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to
 be  taking lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people
 with certain conditions should not be taking vit k and never
 d3 as chlorecalciferol
  Best advice
 research, research and more research than make up your
 mind.
  Never take any vitamins unless
 you research first.
  Mary    
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
 
 06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net
  wrote:
  
  did you
  say D3
 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
  skin.  It has always caused a problem for
 me, too much
  urination. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: Sandra
 
 George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51
 AM
  To: Mike Devour - Silver List
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe:
  CSRe: CSRe: CSHe
 Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 
 LewRockwell.com
  Hi There Mary - agreed
 instant cure mentality will be the
 
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility
 for
  self - like yourself and many
 others I myself got tired of
  talking to
 the air and stopped - the result is that life is
  so much easier, pleasant and fun 
  Take very good care of you and be blessed
 with insight
  Sandee
  Attitude
 
 
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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

-That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or gmo's or msg,or drugs 
that kill, I could go forever
Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time defending my statements 
when all of them were right there at their disposal on gov web sites.
Mary---
On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe 
Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM
 
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
 10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 
 Dee
 
 Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open
 computer and type in USDA d3.
 
 One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it
 used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart
 and get d3 kills the mice every time.
 
 Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just
 research.
 
  If D3 is so
 dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is an
 overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3 and
 MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a lot of research
 on many topics and you will see the studies and trials they
 reference concerning D3 and MK-7. 
 
 USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the
 pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally I
 tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead of
 isolates. But isolates have their place.
 
 Olushola



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Re: CSCF caused by mineral deficiency

2015-01-05 Thread ASL raVen
Hi Phil,
Other than Brazil nuts (I soak them, is that okay - want to make sure it
does not reduce the vitamin potency) - which Selenium supplement brand do
you recommend?


RaVen

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wrote:


 Cystic Fibrosis is caused by selenium deficiency.


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAOnx97T0WA




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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Bernadette Burch
Remember Brooks Bradley introduced us to Del-Immune IV.  It is truly amazing 
and I have now been using it for many years.  Between CS and Del-immune IV, 
this is one healthy family.  Brooks suggested Simply The Best ...which is part 
of Minnesota Wellness and that is where I purchase my Del-Immune IV.  

Bernadette 

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:43 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

I'm in the same situation.  I would love to find something that supported my 
system that I could just take like clockwork for extended periods of time but 
it doesn't work for me.  Eventually taking the same thing for a long time makes 
me feel ill and I have to switch off to something else.  The problem is there 
is nothing else like CS... is there?
PT
 

From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

Judy,
I don’t remember exactly where I read this—but I believe it was from a 
colleague I trust. She said that “buglets” can develop a temporary resistance, 
but after the CS is withdrawn for an undetermined period of time (I don’t think 
it was for long), resistance would no longer be an issue.
 
I never like to use the same thing—whether it’s a food, herb, supplement—for 
too long. My body likes things to be rotated. So I do.
 
Best,
Nenah
 
Nenah Sylver, PhD
author, The Rife Handbook
of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health
and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy
www.nenahsylver.com
 
 
 
From: Judy Knowlton [mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 5:56 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS
 
Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are 
highly resistant to CS?
I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is not 
possible.
My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
Judy Down Maine
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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread ASL raVen
Hi Bernadette,
I 101% advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's and FMS - I used to
get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I never got them - when I
stopped taking them, bam, I'd get a cold. So I know now it truly works. In
fact, I have to restock them for this year.
I buy it from *http://www.delimmune.com http://www.delimmune.com*

*For others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one recommend? I canno ingest
soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I suffer from photosensitivity!
My skin gets red rashes and then it itches like crazy for a few days when I
try to suntan. My vitamin D level has been low in the 40's and I need to
raise it up to 80's range. Suggestions?*

*Kindly, *

*RaVen *


CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread André Juthe
Well if it is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review study
that shows that.

So far I know rather the opposite is true, there are studies that shows the
benefit of vitamin D3
/AJ

2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 mborg...@att.net:


 -That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or gmo's or msg,or
 drugs that kill, I could go forever
 Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time defending my
 statements when all of them were right there at their disposal on gov web
 sites.
 Mary---
 On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com wrote:

  Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM



  On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
  10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
  wrote:


  Dee

  Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open
  computer and type in USDA d3.

  One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it
  used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart
  and get d3 kills the mice every time.

  Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just
  research.

   If D3 is so
  dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is an
  overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3 and
  MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a lot of research
  on many topics and you will see the studies and trials they
  reference concerning D3 and MK-7.

  USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the
  pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally I
  tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead of
  isolates. But isolates have their place.

  Olushola



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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread frankcuns-rial
And of course you stand ready to back up the statement that no pathogen can 
survive the presence of CS.
Cheers
Frank ND

From: Victor Cozzetto 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

Resistance is not possible. No pathogen can survive in the presence of CS. Of 
course there are many variables that affect that statement, such as CS quality, 
quantity, the ability to reach the pathogen, etc. 

Also, make sure that you are not mistaking disease symptoms with toxin 
symptoms. I just had this situation in my own household, where my wife had flu 
like symptoms. The house was being painted and repaired for a month, and she 
was sick through all of it - but only on the weekends - when she was in the 
house. She first suspected something was wrong with our CS, but I was pretty 
certain it was the chemicals, and now we know. Detox was what was needed.

There are many things that can make us ill. Pathogens, toxins, poor diet, etc.

Victor




On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
wrote:

  Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that are 
highly resistant to CS?
  I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is 
not possible.
  My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
  Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
  Judy Down Maine


Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Ron

_Olushola just an hour ago said  Also go to _lef.org
http://lef.org
A wealth of info on K2,D3 and just about everything else.
Ron

On 1/5/2015 8:26 AM, ASL raVen wrote:


Hi Bernadette,
I 101% advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's and FMS - I used 
to get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I never got them - 
when I stopped taking them, bam, I'd get a cold. So I know now it 
truly works. In fact, I have to restock them for this year.

I buy it from *http://www.delimmune.com*
*
*
*For others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one recommend? I canno 
ingest soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I suffer from 
photosensitivity! My skin gets red rashes and then it itches like 
crazy for a few days when I try to suntan. My vitamin D level has been 
low in the 40's and I need to raise it up to 80's range. Suggestions?*

*
*
*Kindly, *
*RaVen
*




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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Deborah Gerard
Study done in Florida? Older people by chance on blood thinners? 

 On Monday, January 5, 2015 2:45 PM, mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net 
wrote:
   

 
There are many items on the market that will help with d3.
dr. Mercola sells a uvb lamp, he also sells saunas which he states will do the 
job. Cod liver oil but be careful with it do research as some are just fish 
oils and some have synthetic a and d.  Sardines, which  I take, and salmon. 
 I did a study on a group of people living in Florida I interviewed 42 people 
who went out in the sun every day , they were dressed in tee shirts or no 
shirts,men, and shorts, in morning and evening also went to work, golfed, 
shopping etc. Of the 42 29 were on d3 per their docs they were LOW IN D3 
anywhere from 5k to 10 k mg daily.  Of the 29 19 had bleeding incidents. As you 
know d3 stays in the liver.
If you are in the sun for 20min early morning or late evening you will get 
anywhere from 20.000 to 50.000 mg of d3, so one figures they are in the sun a 
total of average 2 to 3 hrs a day and yet they are low and have been taking d3 
an average of 3.5 yrs-
Mary---
On Mon, 1/5/15, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS
 To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 8:26 AM
 
 
 Hi Bernadette,I 101%
 advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's and FMS -
 I used to get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I
 never got them - when I stopped taking them, bam, I'd
 get a cold. So I know now it truly works. In fact, I have to
 restock them for this year. I buy
 it from http://www.delimmune.com
 For
 others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one recommend? I
 canno ingest soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I
 suffer from photosensitivity! My skin gets red rashes and
 then it itches like crazy for a few days when I try to
 suntan. My vitamin D level has been low in the 40's and
 I need to raise it up to 80's range.
 Suggestions?
 Kindly, RaVen 



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Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Dee
I have done this and all I get is composition and all facts about D3 none of 
which mentions mouse poison.  Again, I believe it is all to do with dosage, as 
are most thingsDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:03, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 United States Dept of agriculture 
 USDA
 On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe 
 Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM
 
 Do you have a website
 because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:12, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 
 Dee
 Well here I go
 again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and
 type in USDA d3.
 One can still
 purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be
 made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3
 kills the mice every time.
 Every time I
 mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research.
 Why does everyone get so defensive about
 d3??? If you like it well, but if you bleed out 3 pints of
 blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up calcium
 and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain
 barrier.
 I follow Dr. Mercola but never
 believe in anyone always check out everything
 .I followed him with d3 thing in the
 beginning he only sold d3 alone, but than he started adding
 vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he added
 calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why?
 
 Do not get mad at
 me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the
 30's very interesting.  I have studied this for 5
 yrs.  You do the same.
 Mary  
 iOn 
 Mon, 1/5/15, Dee
 d...@deetroy.org
 wrote:
 
 Subject:
 Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM
 
 I use the MK-7 form
 of
 vitamin K which you should always
 take when supplementing
 with D3 and
 when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you
 mean? There are many things which would be
 poisonous to some
 species while being
 fine for others.  Mercola who I trust
 implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol.  
 
 I find it very
 difficult to
 obtain D3 from natural
 sources as I do not like fish and
 cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of
 exposure that is required to be beneficial
 which is why I
 supplementDee
 
 Sent from
 my iPad
 
 On 5 Jan 2015, at
 13:40, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 
 Dee
 d3(hormone) as
 cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse
 poison.  
 Look
 up USDA( United States
 Dept of
 Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 keeps the
 body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is
 dangerous and not to
 be  taking
 lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people
 with certain conditions should not be
 taking vit k and never
 d3 as
 chlorecalciferol
 Best advice
 research, research and more research than
 make up your
 mind.
 Never take any vitamins unless
 you research first.
 Mary
 On 5 Jan 2015, at
 06:56, Jess
 jessi...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
 did you
 say D3
 from a
 mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
 skin.  It has always caused a problem
 for
 me, too much
 urination. Jess
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandra
 George
 [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015
 9:51
 AM
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe:
 CSHe
 Wrote the Book on Vitamin C
 –
 LewRockwell.com
 Hi There Mary -
 agreed
 instant cure mentality will be
 the
 killer of
 humanity - no one wants to take responsibility
 for
 self - like
 yourself and many
 others I myself got
 tired of
 talking to
 the air and stopped - the result is that
 life is
 so much easier, pleasant
 and fun 
 Take very good care of
 you and be blessed
 with insight
 Sandee
 Attitude
 
 
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2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

look up d3 as a rodenticide or d3 as a mouse 
poison
On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: 
CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:54 PM
 
 I have done this and all
 I get is composition and all facts about D3 none of which
 mentions mouse poison.  Again, I believe it is all to do
 with dosage, as are most thingsDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:03, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  
  
  United States Dept of agriculture
 USDA
  On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org
 wrote:
  
  Subject:
 Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on
 Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
  To:
 silver-list@eskimo.com
 silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM
  
  Do you have a
 website
  because I couldn't find
 anything at all.Dee
  
  Sent from my iPad
  
  On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:12, mborg...@att.net
  wrote:
  
  
  Dee
  Well here I go
 
 again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and
  type in USDA d3.
 
 One can still
  purchase  VITAMIN D3
 Mouse poison, I think it used to be
 
 made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get
 d3
  kills the mice every time.
  Every time I
 
 mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research.
  Why does everyone get so defensive
 about
  d3??? If you like it well, but if
 you bleed out 3 pints of
  blood as a lot
 of people do.since d3 does eat up calcium
  and puts it into the blood so now it
 crosses the blood brain
  barrier.
  I follow Dr. Mercola but never
  believe in anyone always check out
 everything
  .I followed him with d3
 thing in the
  beginning he only sold d3
 alone, but than he started adding
  vit
 k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he added
  calcium( I do not know if he still does)
 guess why?
  
  Do not get mad at
 
 me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to
 the
  30's very interesting.  I have
 studied this for 5
  yrs.  You do the
 same.
  Mary  
  iOn 
  Mon,
 1/5/15, Dee
  d...@deetroy.org
  wrote:
  
  Subject:
  Re:
 CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
  CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the
 Book on Vitamin C –
 
 LewRockwell.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44
 AM
  
  I use
 the MK-7 form
  of
  vitamin K which you should always
  take when supplementing
  with D3 and
  when
 you say mouse poison, what exactly do you
  mean? There are many things which
 would be
  poisonous to some
  species while being
  fine for others.  Mercola who I trust
  implicitly, advocates D3 as
 cholecalciferol.  
  
  I find it very
 
 difficult to
  obtain D3 from
 natural
  sources as I do not like fish
 and
  cannot spend enough time in the sun
 with the level of
  exposure that is
 required to be beneficial
  which is why
 I
  supplementDee
  
  Sent from
  my iPad
  
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
  13:40, mborg...@att.net
  wrote:
 
 
  
 
 Dee
  d3(hormone) as
  cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the
 skin) is mouse
  poison.  
  Look
  up USDA(
 United States
  Dept of
  Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2
 keeps the
  body from bleeding.  K2
 in itself is
  dangerous and not to
  be  taking
 
 lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people
  with certain conditions should not
 be
  taking vit k and never
  d3 as
 
 chlorecalciferol
  Best advice
  research, research and more research
 than
  make up your
  mind.
 
 Never take any vitamins unless
  you
 research first.
  Mary    
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
  06:56, Jess
 
 jessi...@optonline.net
  wrote:
  
  did you
  say D3
 
 from a
  mouse poison? I thought it was
 from sheep
  skin.  It has
 always caused a problem
  for
  me, too much
  urination. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: Sandra
  George
  [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04,
 2015
  9:51
 
 AM
  To: Mike Devour - Silver List
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe:
  CSRe:
 
 CSRe: CSRe:
  CSHe
  Wrote the Book on Vitamin C
  –
 
 LewRockwell.com
  Hi There Mary
 -
  agreed
 
 instant cure mentality will be
  the
  killer of
 
 humanity - no one wants to take responsibility
  for
  self
 - like
  yourself and many
  others I myself got
  tired of
 
 talking to
  the air and stopped -
 the result is that
  life is
  so much easier, pleasant
  and fun 
 
 Take very good care of
  you and be
 blessed
  with insight
  Sandee
  Attitude
  
  
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2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

-I never stated that. d3 from sun heals just about everything. next is d3 from 
sardines, salmon these are good next is d3 from  Icelandic cod liver oil .  I 
too believe in most things Dr. Mercola states but I cannot find what his d3 is 
made from.
D3   man made chol,not the chol from the sun to the skin, is a rodantcide the 
ones in pill, liquid etc form.

I do not know how else to explain it as you stated look up dr. Mercola he 
explains d3 but again know what you are reading.  In one article he states it 
is from the sun.  In another article on the same page he does not explain where 
his supplement form of d3 is from, so does one believe that all d3 is from the 
sun, than one has to think how can one get the sun in a pill 
On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: 
CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:57 PM
 
 So you're  saying D3
 was put on this earth to poison mice?  I find this very
 hard to believe...Dee
 
 Sent
 from my iPad
 
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
 20:01, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  
  
  well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol
 (sp) so how much of a peer review do you want.  Sometimes
 when reading peer reviews first you must know which d3 are
 they talking about, sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of
 trying to spell it)
  I have never  read
 a study on d3 as chol because it is a mouse poison. Clear
 and simple
  Mary
 
 Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C
 – LewRockwell.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM
  
  Well if it
  is so dangerous it should at least be some
 peer-review study
  that shows that. 
  So far I
  know rather
 the opposite is true, there are studies that
  shows the benefit of vitamin
  D3/AJ
  2015-01-05
 17:11 GMT+01:00 
  mborg...@att.net:
  
  
  -That is a good question why haven't
 they banned it, or
  gmo's or msg,or
 drugs that kill, I could go forever
  
  Now you see why I quit teaching I spent
 all my time
  defending my statements
 when all of them were right there at
 
 their disposal on gov web sites.
  
 
 Mary---
  
  On Mon, 1/5/15,
 Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
  
   Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRE: CSRe:
  CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the
 
 Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  
   Date: Monday,
 January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
  
   10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
  
   wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   Dee
  
  
  
   Well here I go
 again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy
 
 open
  
   computer
 and type in USDA d3.
  
  
  
   One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3
 Mouse poison, I think
  it
  
   used to be made by
 Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to
 
 Walmart
  
   and get
 d3 kills the mice every time.
  
  
  
   Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in
 a up roar just
  
  
 research.
  
  
  
    If D3
 is so
  
  
 dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is
  an
  
   overwhelming amount of data showing the
 benefits of D3
  and
 
 
   MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does
 a
  lot of research
 
 
   on many topics and you will see the
 studies and trials
  they
  
   reference
 concerning D3 and MK-7.
  
  
  
   USDA has proven itself to be more of a
 friend to the
  
  
 pharmaceutical corporations than we the people.
 Personally
  I
  
   tried to get my nutrients from whole
 food sources instead
  of
  
   isolates. But
 isolates have their place.
  
  
  
   Olushola
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CS...

2015-01-05 Thread Brickeyk
Hi
I read somewhere if you want to get D3 from the sun, no sun block, no  
shower until several hours later as it takes several hours for your body to  
absorb the D3 as it is in the form of a grease. So if you slather on sun block  
sunbathe and then shower before leaving the pool you block D3 and wash off  
any you did not block. When I head south for some sun I limit sun exposure  
to two hours, no sun block, no after shower until later. My D3 level just  
checked by the VA is 53. If I start to burn I spray with my EIS to stop any 
burn  in its tracks.Most sunbathers I see use sun block and shower off any 
D3 before  leaving the pool. No wonder their D3 level is low. My skin DR told 
me to take a  pill instead of laying in the sun, I asked him how can the 
vitamin people put  the sun in a pill. My tan puts native americans to shame.
Brickey
 
so does  one believe that all d3 is from the sun, than one has to think how 
can one get  the sun in a pill 



Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

Hay, thanks for helping, I also believe as you, how can people be so deficient 
especially in Florida.
There are those that think that the reason why everyone is so low is because 
that is the way the liver wants it. 
Mary
On Mon, 1/5/15, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Subject: CSCould be argued but not by me.
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 2:29 PM
 
 
 
 
 The following is not directed at
 anyone in particular but more as an opportunity for
 venting...
 I find it incredulous that here in Australia
 they? are diagnosing vitamin D deficiency every
 day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.
  My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and
 yet the quacks are diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT
 THE...???
 How have we evolved as a species if all and
 sundry are D deficient, or has something happened that all
 of a sudden the majority of the people on this planet have
 somehow in more recent years become D deficient?  I
 think we as a species have been around for a while and have
 survived quite well, up to a few years ago.
 Utterly ridiculous.
 The food and produce we are forced to consume are
 nothing but an abomination, a poor substitute for real food
 and produce.  It's increasingly difficult to
 consume adequate natural vitamins and these
 substandard foods are leaching the vitamins we
 may get from our bodies.  Vitamin deficiency to me is a
 direct result of the substandard food and produce and
 processed muck we consume due to the interference by
 laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones
 God, wealth, and the desire to make every man
 woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on the
 pharmacy for survival.
 People should turn their TV's off, stop
 reading newspapers, stop searching for studies?
 on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
 more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up
 the garden path to self destruction and oblivion with the
 bombardment on and in the body by chemically produced
 concoctions under the misconception they are for the
 betterment of their health.
 There is not one organisation on this planet that
 is interested in the health of the people!
 The more science is involved with food and
 produce production, coupled with the Supermarkets endless
 demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our health as
 a species.  One only has to look around to see where we
 are heading as a species.
 Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest
 fraud known to mankind {outside of the banishment of the
 cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being poisoned with each
 and every passing day.  I'm going for the latter as
 the obvious major factor here.
 If people are increasingly becoming vitamin
 deficient they need to be asking two questions - How and
 Why?  
 Our natural resilience and immune systems which
 have stood us in good stead and seen us develop and prosper,
 over the odd year or three, are slowly being
 destroyed.
 All the above is my opinion only, and I'm
 danged well sticking to it g.
 N.   



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Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.

2015-01-05 Thread slickpicker
Others think the reason  is that so few people have enough of their skin 
exposed, often enough, for long enough, when the sun is more than 50 degrees 
above the horizon. They also think that poor diet, lower nutrient levels in 
soil/food, and pollution are contributing factors. 


 mborg...@att.net wrote: 

=

Hay, thanks for helping, I also believe as you, how can people be so deficient 
especially in Florida.
There are those that think that the reason why everyone is so low is because 
that is the way the liver wants it. 
Mary
On Mon, 1/5/15, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Subject: CSCould be argued but not by me.
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 2:29 PM
 
 
 
 
 The following is not directed at
 anyone in particular but more as an opportunity for
 venting...
 I find it incredulous that here in Australia
 they? are diagnosing vitamin D deficiency every
 day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.
  My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and
 yet the quacks are diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT
 THE...???
 How have we evolved as a species if all and
 sundry are D deficient, or has something happened that all
 of a sudden the majority of the people on this planet have
 somehow in more recent years become D deficient?  I
 think we as a species have been around for a while and have
 survived quite well, up to a few years ago.
 Utterly ridiculous.
 The food and produce we are forced to consume are
 nothing but an abomination, a poor substitute for real food
 and produce.  It's increasingly difficult to
 consume adequate natural vitamins and these
 substandard foods are leaching the vitamins we
 may get from our bodies.  Vitamin deficiency to me is a
 direct result of the substandard food and produce and
 processed muck we consume due to the interference by
 laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones
 God, wealth, and the desire to make every man
 woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on the
 pharmacy for survival.
 People should turn their TV's off, stop
 reading newspapers, stop searching for studies?
 on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
 more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up
 the garden path to self destruction and oblivion with the
 bombardment on and in the body by chemically produced
 concoctions under the misconception they are for the
 betterment of their health.
 There is not one organisation on this planet that
 is interested in the health of the people!
 The more science is involved with food and
 produce production, coupled with the Supermarkets endless
 demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our health as
 a species.  One only has to look around to see where we
 are heading as a species.
 Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest
 fraud known to mankind {outside of the banishment of the
 cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being poisoned with each
 and every passing day.  I'm going for the latter as
 the obvious major factor here.
 If people are increasingly becoming vitamin
 deficient they need to be asking two questions - How and
 Why?  
 Our natural resilience and immune systems which
 have stood us in good stead and seen us develop and prosper,
 over the odd year or three, are slowly being
 destroyed.
 All the above is my opinion only, and I'm
 danged well sticking to it g.
 N.   



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Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.

2015-01-05 Thread RaVen
I second that. 



On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:23 PM, slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

Others think the reason  is that so few people have enough of their skin 
exposed, often enough, for long enough, when the sun is more than 50 degrees 
above the horizon. They also think that poor diet, lower nutrient levels in 
soil/food, and pollution are contributing factors. 


 mborg...@att.net wrote: 

=

Hay, thanks for helping, I also believe as you, how can people be so deficient 
especially in Florida.
There are those that think that the reason why everyone is so low is because 
that is the way the liver wants it. 
Mary
On Mon, 1/5/15, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

Subject: CSCould be argued but not by me.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 2:29 PM




The following is not directed at
anyone in particular but more as an opportunity for
venting...
I find it incredulous that here in Australia
they? are diagnosing vitamin D deficiency every
day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.
 My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and
yet the quacks are diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT
THE...???
How have we evolved as a species if all and
sundry are D deficient, or has something happened that all
of a sudden the majority of the people on this planet have
somehow in more recent years become D deficient?  I
think we as a species have been around for a while and have
survived quite well, up to a few years ago.
Utterly ridiculous.
The food and produce we are forced to consume are
nothing but an abomination, a poor substitute for real food
and produce.  It's increasingly difficult to
consume adequate natural vitamins and these
substandard foods are leaching the vitamins we
may get from our bodies.  Vitamin deficiency to me is a
direct result of the substandard food and produce and
processed muck we consume due to the interference by
laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones
God, wealth, and the desire to make every man
woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on the
pharmacy for survival.
People should turn their TV's off, stop
reading newspapers, stop searching for studies?
on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up
the garden path to self destruction and oblivion with the
bombardment on and in the body by chemically produced
concoctions under the misconception they are for the
betterment of their health.
There is not one organisation on this planet that
is interested in the health of the people!
The more science is involved with food and
produce production, coupled with the Supermarkets endless
demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our health as
a species.  One only has to look around to see where we
are heading as a species.
Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest
fraud known to mankind {outside of the banishment of the
cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being poisoned with each
and every passing day.  I'm going for the latter as
the obvious major factor here.
If people are increasingly becoming vitamin
deficient they need to be asking two questions - How and
Why?  
Our natural resilience and immune systems which
have stood us in good stead and seen us develop and prosper,
over the odd year or three, are slowly being
destroyed.
All the above is my opinion only, and I'm
danged well sticking to it g.
N. 



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Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Dee
So you're  saying D3 was put on this earth to poison mice?  I find this very 
hard to believe...Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 20:01, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how much of a peer review 
 do you want.  Sometimes when reading peer reviews first you must know which 
 d3 are they talking about, sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of trying to 
 spell it)
 I have never  read a study on d3 as chol because it is a mouse poison. Clear 
 and simple
 Mary
 Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM
 
 Well if it
 is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review study
 that shows that. 
 So far I
 know rather the opposite is true, there are studies that
 shows the benefit of vitamin
 D3/AJ
 2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 
 mborg...@att.net:
 
 
 -That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or
 gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go forever
 
 Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time
 defending my statements when all of them were right there at
 their disposal on gov web sites.
 
 Mary---
 
 On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the
 Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
 
  10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  Dee
 
 
 
  Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy
 open
 
  computer and type in USDA d3.
 
 
 
  One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think
 it
 
  used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to
 Walmart
 
  and get d3 kills the mice every time.
 
 
 
  Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just
 
  research.
 
 
 
   If D3 is so
 
  dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is
 an
 
  overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3
 and
 
  MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a
 lot of research
 
  on many topics and you will see the studies and trials
 they
 
  reference concerning D3 and MK-7.
 
 
 
  USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the
 
  pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally
 I
 
  tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead
 of
 
  isolates. But isolates have their place.
 
 
 
  Olushola
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.

2015-01-05 Thread melindanichols12
Can anyone tell me how to stop getting all these emails? I'm not computer savy 
and somehow, when I enquirer about colloidal silver I got on one of the chats 
that I don't want to be on.

Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an 
 opportunity for venting...
 
 I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing vitamin D 
 deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.  My 
 locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet the quacks are 
 diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...???
 
 How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has 
 something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this 
 planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient?  I think we as a 
 species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to a 
 few years ago.
 
 Utterly ridiculous.
 
 The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an abomination, 
 a poor substitute for real food and produce.  It's increasingly difficult to 
 consume adequate natural vitamins and these substandard foods are leaching 
 the vitamins we may get from our bodies.  Vitamin deficiency to me is a 
 direct result of the substandard food and produce and processed muck we 
 consume due to the interference by laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of 
 playing someones God, wealth, and the desire to make every man woman and 
 child utterly dependant and reliant on the pharmacy for survival.
 
 People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching 
 for studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be 
 more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path to 
 self destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by 
 chemically produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the 
 betterment of their health.
 
 There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the health 
 of the people!
 
 The more science is involved with food and produce production, coupled with 
 the Supermarkets endless demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our 
 health as a species.  One only has to look around to see where we are heading 
 as a species.
 
 Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest fraud known to mankind 
 {outside of the banishment of the cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being 
 poisoned with each and every passing day.  I'm going for the latter as the 
 obvious major factor here.
 
 If people are increasingly becoming vitamin deficient they need to be asking 
 two questions - How and Why?  
 
 Our natural resilience and immune systems which have stood us in good stead 
 and seen us develop and prosper, over the odd year or three, are slowly being 
 destroyed.
 
 All the above is my opinion only, and I'm danged well sticking to it g.
 
 N.


Re: CSCF is caused by mineral deficiency

2015-01-05 Thread Gary Hilt
It would be helpful as i am a Celiac

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:50 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Interesting the website doesn't say it is free of wheat and gluten.
 PT

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 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 1:56 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSCF is caused by mineral deficiency


 Hi ASL raVen,

 Dr. Richard Olree co-authored book Minerals for the
 Genetic Code.   Olree's three most essential mineral
 co-factors for the production of proteins from amino acids
 are selenium, iodine, and boron.  I buy these three minerals
 in Olree's Grand Unified organic mineral complex from Hillman Health
 Foods, Inc. (noted below).

 http://emineral.info/HHF/

 Once shelled, brazil nuts slowly lose selenium.  Soaking
 nuts probably accelerates this loss.  I can't find brazil nuts
 in shells, so I buy shelled nuts from Trader Joe's and shred
 ​them.
 ​Tasty snack.  Brazil nuts are 497 ppm selenium.





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Jesus Christ.
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Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CS

2015-01-05 Thread Jim Holmes
Re: your Message Re: redundant Re:s,

I think you are correct.

Jim

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 I think the message center is having a problem stripping the Re: from
 replied messages.

 Marshall


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CSCould be argued but not by me.

2015-01-05 Thread Neville
The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an 
opportunity for venting...
I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing vitamin D 
deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.  My 
locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet the quacks are 
diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...???
How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has 
something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this 
planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient?  I think we as a 
species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to a few 
years ago.
Utterly ridiculous.
The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an abomination, a 
poor substitute for real food and produce.  It's increasingly difficult to 
consume adequate natural vitamins and these substandard foods are leaching 
the vitamins we may get from our bodies.  Vitamin deficiency to me is a direct 
result of the substandard food and produce and processed muck we consume due to 
the interference by laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones 
God, wealth, and the desire to make every man woman and child utterly 
dependant and reliant on the pharmacy for survival.
People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching for 
studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be more 
responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path to self 
destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by chemically 
produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the betterment of 
their health.
There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the health 
of the people!
The more science is involved with food and produce production, coupled with the 
Supermarkets endless demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our health 
as a species.  One only has to look around to see where we are heading as a 
species.
Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest fraud known to mankind {outside 
of the banishment of the cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being poisoned 
with each and every passing day.  I'm going for the latter as the obvious major 
factor here.
If people are increasingly becoming vitamin deficient they need to be asking 
two questions - How and Why?  
Our natural resilience and immune systems which have stood us in good stead and 
seen us develop and prosper, over the odd year or three, are slowly being 
destroyed.
All the above is my opinion only, and I'm danged well sticking to it g.
N.

Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CS

2015-01-05 Thread Marshall
I think the message center is having a problem stripping the Re: from 
replied messages.


Marshall


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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

The only natural source is the sun, natural foods sardines, salmon, natural 
Icelandic cod liver oil.
 I still do not know what you are asking .  
you can research the sun yourself.  As I stated go to Dr. Mercola's website 

On Mon, 1/5/15, André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: 
CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – 
LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 1:27 PM
 
 Natural meant taken from natural
 sources, not artificially synthesised, do you have a
 link to support your claim or not?
 2015-01-05 22:13 GMT+01:00 
 mborg...@att.net:
 
 
 natural supplement is there such a thing?. The only real
 natural supplement is the sun, next sardines,
 salmon, cod liver oil, lamps , saunas, food very little d3
 in foods.
 
 The thing is with d3 it stays in the liver, the gov.
 recommends very low mgs daily for a reason..
 
  D3 is in everything so one must add up all d2 and d3 as it
 is all synthetic unless otherwise stated.
 
 Mary
 
 'On Mon, 1/5/15, André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 LewRockwell.com
 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 12:08 PM
 
 
 
  Well a
 
  link to a peer-reviewed study which supported that the
 D3
 
  that is sold as natural supplement is dangerous would
 be
 
  sufficient, thanks. 
 
  2015-01-05 21:01 GMT+01:00
 
  mborg...@att.net:
 
 
 
 
 
  well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how
 much
 
  of a peer review do you want.  Sometimes when reading
 peer
 
  reviews first you must know which d3 are they talking
 about,
 
  sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of trying to
 spell
 
  it)
 
 
 
   I have never  read a study on d3 as chol because it is
 a
 
  mouse poison. Clear and simple
 
 
 
  Mary
 
 
 
  Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin
 C
 
  – LewRockwell.com
 
 
 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 
 
   Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Well if it
 
 
 
   is so dangerous it should at least be some
 peer-review
 
  study
 
 
 
   that shows that. 
 
 
 
   So far I
 
 
 
   know rather the opposite is true, there are studies
 
  that
 
 
 
   shows the benefit of vitamin
 
 
 
   D3/AJ
 
 
 
   2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00
 
 
 
   mborg...@att.net:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   -That is a good question why haven't they banned
 it,
 
  or
 
 
 
   gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go
 forever
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time
 
 
 
   defending my statements when all of them were right
 there
 
  at
 
 
 
   their disposal on gov web sites.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Mary---
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE:
 
  CSRe:
 
 
 
   CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe
 Wrote
 
  the
 
 
 
   Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Dee
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is
 
  easy
 
 
 
   open
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    computer and type in USDA d3.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I
 
  think
 
 
 
   it
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to
 
 
 
   Walmart
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    and get d3 kills the mice every time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar
 
  just
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    research.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     If D3 is so
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it?
 There
 
  is
 
 
 
   an
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of
 
  D3
 
 
 
   and
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    MK-7. Also go to lef.org who
 does
 
  a
 
 
 
   lot of research
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    on many topics and you will see the studies and
 
  trials
 
 
 
   they
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    reference concerning D3 and MK-7.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to
 the
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    pharmaceutical corporations than we the people.
 
  Personally
 
 
 
   I
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources
 
  instead
 
 
 
   of
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    isolates. But isolates have their place.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    Olushola
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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   Colloidal 

Re: CSCF is caused by mineral deficiency

2015-01-05 Thread PT Ferrance
Interesting the website doesn't say it is free of wheat and gluten.
PT

 


 From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: CSCF is caused by mineral deficiency
 




Hi ASL raVen,


Dr. Richard Olree co-authored book Minerals for the

Genetic Code.   Olree's three most essential mineral

co-factors for the production of proteins from amino acids

are selenium, iodine, and boron.  I buy these three minerals

in Olree's Grand Unified organic mineral complex from Hillman Health Foods, 
Inc. (noted below).


http://emineral.info/HHF/


Once shelled, brazil nuts slowly lose selenium.  Soaking

nuts probably accelerates this loss.  I can't find brazil nuts

in shells, so I buy shelled nuts from Trader Joe's and shred
​them.  ​Tasty snack.  Brazil nuts are 497 ppm selenium.

Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS - ONE GENERATION

2015-01-05 Thread Judy Knowlton
I am thinking a “generation” would be very short indeed. Hours perhaps.
JDM

From: Ode Coyote 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 12:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS - ONE GENERATION

Or a lot less

ode 



On 1/5/2015 8:33 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

  Hi, Ode.
  One generation?  Like a maximum of a couple of weeks?  
  JDM

  From: Ode Coyote 
  Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:21 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

  In nature there are bugs that become resistant to silver in the soil, but 
that resistance [ tolerance? ] disappears in one generation after being removed 
from the presence of silver.

  Ode


  On 1/5/2015 7:56 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) that 
are highly resistant to CS?
I had understood from this List that CS works differently and resistance is 
not possible.
My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
Judy Down Maine




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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread slickpicker
...If you are in the sun for 20min early morning or late evening you will get 
anywhere from 20.000 to 50.000 mg of d3... 

From Mercola's site:

...due to the physics and wavelength of UVB rays it will only penetrate the 
atmosphere when the sun is above an angle of about 50° from the horizon. When 
the sun is lower than 50°, the ozone layer reflects the UVB-rays but let 
through the longer UVA-rays.

Terry


 mborg...@att.net wrote: 

=

There are many items on the market that will help with d3.
dr. Mercola sells a uvb lamp, he also sells saunas which he states will do the 
job. Cod liver oil but be careful with it do research as some are just fish 
oils and some have synthetic a and d.  Sardines, which  I take, and salmon. 
 I did a study on a group of people living in Florida I interviewed 42 people 
who went out in the sun every day , they were dressed in tee shirts or no 
shirts,men, and shorts, in morning and evening also went to work, golfed, 
shopping etc. Of the 42 29 were on d3 per their docs they were LOW IN D3 
anywhere from 5k to 10 k mg daily.  Of the 29 19 had bleeding incidents. As you 
know d3 stays in the liver.
If you are in the sun for 20min early morning or late evening you will get 
anywhere from 20.000 to 50.000 mg of d3, so one figures they are in the sun a 
total of average 2 to 3 hrs a day and yet they are low and have been taking d3 
an average of 3.5 yrs-
Mary---
On Mon, 1/5/15, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS
 To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 8:26 AM
 
 
 Hi Bernadette,I 101%
 advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's and FMS -
 I used to get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I
 never got them - when I stopped taking them, bam, I'd
 get a cold. So I know now it truly works. In fact, I have to
 restock them for this year. I buy
 it from http://www.delimmune.com
 For
 others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one recommend? I
 canno ingest soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I
 suffer from photosensitivity! My skin gets red rashes and
 then it itches like crazy for a few days when I try to
 suntan. My vitamin D level has been low in the 40's and
 I need to raise it up to 80's range.
 Suggestions?
 Kindly, RaVen 



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Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.

2015-01-05 Thread Sandra George
Hi There Neville, I love it, I agree with you totally and endorse your rant - 
it needs to be heard so others will wake
up to the dishonesty and hatred we all have generally for each other when our 
survival is at stake Everything is good as long as I am making money 
from it - I had an example of this one only recently when we had the outbreak of
the Chicken V down here, all of a sudden my phone was ringing off the hook 
everyone wanted EIS yesterday, so I complied made more money in a few weeks 
than for the entire year - since this drama I have learned from my own 
experience that EIS cannot touch a virus and told them so - I do not expect to 
sell one more oz of liquid or my gel.
Such is life, we have to take it as it comes and learn how to manage it all.
I think all we can do is to keep smiling and our immune system as strong as is 
possible and manage whatever comes our way 
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
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On 5 Jan 2015, at 18:29, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an 
opportunity for venting...

I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing vitamin D 
deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly preposterous.  My 
locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet the quacks are 
diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...???

How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has 
something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this 
planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient?  I think we as a 
species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to a few 
years ago.

Utterly ridiculous.

The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an abomination, a 
poor substitute for real food and produce.  It's increasingly difficult to 
consume adequate natural vitamins and these substandard foods are leaching 
the vitamins we may get from our bodies.  Vitamin deficiency to me is a direct 
result of the substandard food and produce and processed muck we consume due to 
the interference by laboratory Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones 
God, wealth, and the desire to make every man woman and child utterly 
dependant and reliant on the pharmacy for survival.

People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching for 
studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be more 
responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path to self 
destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by chemically 
produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the betterment of 
their health.

There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the health 
of the people!

The more science is involved with food and produce production, coupled with the 
Supermarkets endless demands for profit, the more we will suffer in our health 
as a species.  One only has to look around to see where we are heading as a 
species.

Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest fraud known to mankind {outside 
of the banishment of the cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being poisoned 
with each and every passing day.  I'm going for the latter as the obvious major 
factor here.

If people are increasingly becoming vitamin deficient they need to be asking 
two questions - How and Why?  

Our natural resilience and immune systems which have stood us in good stead and 
seen us develop and prosper, over the odd year or three, are slowly being 
destroyed.

All the above is my opinion only, and I'm danged well sticking to it g.

N.






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Re: CSCF is caused by mineral deficiency

2015-01-05 Thread Phil Morrison
Gary Hilt,

According to label:

Olree's Grand Unified organic mineral complex is gluten free.

Also says, no components of this product have been imported
from China.


CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol

2015-01-05 Thread Walter Anderson
Trying to follow the discussion on D3 / cholecalciferol. Living in the
fairly far north (very little sun in winter and not going out with a lot of
exposed skin at -25°C) we've been supplementing D3 / cholecalciferol from
lanolin in an olive oil base during the winter. If I understand right, some
are suggesting the D3 supplementation is a bad idea while others don't
agree. Possible side-effects are bleeding issues (poor clotting?) and
something about how calcium is dealt with? Did I get that right?

Best regards,
Walter

-Original Message-
From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 11:48
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol


Maybe, read carefully on the introduction to the right he uses the sun.
In the following article which form of d3 is he referring to, sun, lamp,
food, fish, sauna, or to his spray or pills which are made in India-
Mary---
On Mon, 1/5/15, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:

 Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM
 
 Mercola begs to differ.
 
 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vi
tamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx
 
 Joe
 On 2015-01-05 8:40 AM, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  Dee
 
 d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the
 skin) is mouse poison.
  Look up USDA(
 United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2  keeps the body
from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous  and not to be  taking lightly
unless advice from doctor.  Many people with certain conditions should not
be taking vit  k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol   Best  advice research,
research and more research than make up  your mind.
  Never take any vitamins
 unless you research first.
  Mary
 
 
 
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Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.

2015-01-05 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Sandee,

I do not mean to sound harsh, but I am concerned that you will mislead
people, and even drive them away from CS, and that would be a shame. And as
your email stated, you did in fact just do that. Those are people that
would have been helped by your products.

Why do you continuously insinuate that EIS/CS is not effective against a
virus? Do you have some information that we do not? I have never found any
source of information that identifies any pathogen as being resistant to
CS. If you have a link to such, I would be very interested to see it.

This discussion has happened countless times, and you see everyone talking
about being free from cold/flu/etc. when using CS. Yet you drop these
statements from time to time. This is especially ironic, since you are a
user and a supplier of EIS/CS products.

First hand experiences are not very relevant, as we can never be sure of
all the factors affecting our own personal health. But thousands of years
of usage throughout history have yet to reveal a silver resistant pathogen.
(in vivo, with a somewhat healthy immune system)

If you are having a particular problem with this Chicken V disease, why not
start a separate thread to discuss it? I am actually curious, as in all
these years I have never understood exactly what disease you were talking
about.

So what do you say Sandee? Will you start a discussion about your Chicken V
issue?

Victor


On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Hi There Neville, I love it, I agree with you totally and endorse your
 rant - it needs to be heard so others will wake
 up to the dishonesty and hatred we all have generally for each other when
 our survival is at stake Everything is good as long as I am making
 money from it - I had an example of this one only recently when we had the
 outbreak of
 the Chicken V down here, all of a sudden my phone was ringing off the hook
 everyone wanted EIS yesterday, so I complied made more money in a few weeks
 than for the entire year - since this drama I have learned from my own
 experience that EIS cannot touch a virus and told them so - I do not expect
 to sell one more oz of liquid or my gel.
 Such is life, we have to take it as it comes and learn how to manage it
 all.
 I think all we can do is to keep smiling and our immune system as strong
 as is possible and manage whatever comes our way 
 Sandee[image: ]
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com



 On 5 Jan 2015, at 18:29, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an
 opportunity for venting...

 I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing
 vitamin D deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly
 preposterous.  My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet
 the quacks are diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...???

 How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has
 something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this
 planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient?  I think we as
 a species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to
 a few years ago.

 Utterly ridiculous.

 The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an
 abomination, a poor substitute for real food and produce.  It's
 increasingly difficult to consume adequate natural vitamins and these
 substandard foods are leaching the vitamins we may get from our bodies.
 Vitamin deficiency to me is a direct result of the substandard food and
 produce and processed muck we consume due to the interference by laboratory
 Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones God, wealth, and the
 desire to make every man woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on
 the pharmacy for survival.

 People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching
 for studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
 more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path
 to self destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by
 chemically produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the
 betterment of their health.

 There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the
 health of the people!

 The more science is involved with food and produce production, coupled
 with the Supermarkets endless demands for profit, the more we will suffer
 in our health as a species.  One only has to look around to see where we
 are heading as a species.

 Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest fraud known to mankind
 {outside of the banishment of the cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being
 poisoned with each and every passing day.  I'm going for the latter as the
 obvious major factor here.

 If people are increasingly becoming vitamin deficient they need to be
 

RE: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol

2015-01-05 Thread Walter Anderson
Thanks Mary. We eat wild Alaskan salmon one or more times a week as well as
a few eggs from our chickens. Not sure how much D that adds up to. I wonder
if D3 from lanolin qualifies as natural in the same way or not. - Walter


-Original Message-
From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 17:23
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol


Supplementing with natural vitd3 is great such as sardines salmon,
lamps,saunas. I live in the Pacific northwest rains all the time, I
supplement with sardines.
Mary 
On Mon, 1/5/15, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote:

 Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 4:59 PM
 
 Trying to follow the discussion on D3
 / cholecalciferol. Living in the
 fairly far north (very little sun in winter and not going  out with a lot
of  exposed skin at -25°C) we've been supplementing D3 /  cholecalciferol
from  lanolin in an olive oil base during the winter. If I  understand
right, some  are suggesting the D3 supplementation is a bad idea while
others don't  agree. Possible side-effects are bleeding issues (poor
 clotting?) and
 something about how calcium is dealt with? Did I get that  right?
 
 Best regards,
 Walter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mborg...@att.net
 [mailto:mborg...@att.net]
 Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 11:48
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
 
 
 Maybe, read carefully on the introduction to the right he  uses the sun.
 In the following article which form of d3 is he referring  to, sun, lamp,
food, fish, sauna, or to his spray or pills which are made  in India-
 Mary---
 On Mon, 1/5/15, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
 wrote:
 
  Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM
  
  Mercola begs to differ.
  
  
 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vi
 tamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx
  
  Joe
  On 2015-01-05 8:40 AM, mborg...@att.net
  wrote:
   Dee
  
  d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the
  skin) is mouse poison.
   Look up USDA(
  United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.
 K2  keeps the body
 from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous  and not to  be  taking lightly
unless advice from doctor.  Many people with certain  conditions should not
be taking vit  k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol   Best  advice research,
research and more research than make up  your mind.
   Never take any vitamins
  unless you research first.
   Mary
  
  
  
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Re: CSCould be argued but not by me.

2015-01-05 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Great rant Neville. Right on the money. Anyone wanting to know more about
the D3 (and all nutrition) issues should really study the work done by Dr.
Weston A. Price. Natto and cod liver oil are indeed among the few
superfoods that can help us supplement, but unfortunately most cod liver
oil these days is useless (highly processed). The very best products can be
purchased from greenpasture.org

Vitamin 'supplements' (isolated) do not have the same effect as vitamins
from foods. There are countless complex factors that affect our body's
ability to absorb and use the vitamins we need.

Talking about mice is pointless, as their body can produce certain vitamins
that ours cannot, and that is why vitamin D is indeed poison to them.

The info at westonaprice.org will lead you to a great many resources for
knowledge and action.

Victor

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The following is not directed at anyone in particular but more as an
 opportunity for venting...

 I find it incredulous that here in Australia they? are diagnosing
 vitamin D deficiency every day of the week, in fact I find it utterly
 preposterous.  My locale gets around 364 days out of 365 sunlight and yet
 the quacks are diagnosing D deficiency...WHAT THE...???

 How have we evolved as a species if all and sundry are D deficient, or has
 something happened that all of a sudden the majority of the people on this
 planet have somehow in more recent years become D deficient?  I think we as
 a species have been around for a while and have survived quite well, up to
 a few years ago.

 Utterly ridiculous.

 The food and produce we are forced to consume are nothing but an
 abomination, a poor substitute for real food and produce.  It's
 increasingly difficult to consume adequate natural vitamins and these
 substandard foods are leaching the vitamins we may get from our bodies.
 Vitamin deficiency to me is a direct result of the substandard food and
 produce and processed muck we consume due to the interference by laboratory
 Frankensteins in the pursuit of playing someones God, wealth, and the
 desire to make every man woman and child utterly dependant and reliant on
 the pharmacy for survival.

 People should turn their TV's off, stop reading newspapers, stop searching
 for studies? on their computers and throw the radio out the window and be
 more responsible for themselves, rather than being led up the garden path
 to self destruction and oblivion with the bombardment on and in the body by
 chemically produced concoctions under the misconception they are for the
 betterment of their health.

 There is not one organisation on this planet that is interested in the
 health of the people!

 The more science is involved with food and produce production, coupled
 with the Supermarkets endless demands for profit, the more we will suffer
 in our health as a species.  One only has to look around to see where we
 are heading as a species.

 Either the quacks are perpetuating the greatest fraud known to mankind
 {outside of the banishment of the cure for cancers}, or we are slowly being
 poisoned with each and every passing day.  I'm going for the latter as the
 obvious major factor here.

 If people are increasingly becoming vitamin deficient they need to be
 asking two questions - How and Why?

 Our natural resilience and immune systems which have stood us in good
 stead and seen us develop and prosper, over the odd year or three, are
 slowly being destroyed.

 All the above is my opinion only, and I'm danged well sticking to it g.

 N.



Re: CSCF is caused by mineral deficiency

2015-01-05 Thread PT Ferrance
Interesting.  It doesn't say that on the label they put on the website.
PT

 


 From: Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: CSCF is caused by mineral deficiency
 




Gary Hilt, 


According to label:


Olree's Grand Unified organic mineral complex is gluten free.


Also says, no components of this product have been imported

from China.

Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

Supplementing with natural vitd3 is great such as sardines salmon, 
lamps,saunas. I live in the Pacific northwest rains all the time, I supplement 
with sardines.
Mary 
On Mon, 1/5/15, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote:

 Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 4:59 PM
 
 Trying to follow the discussion on D3
 / cholecalciferol. Living in the
 fairly far north (very little sun in winter and not going
 out with a lot of
 exposed skin at -25°C) we've been supplementing D3 /
 cholecalciferol from
 lanolin in an olive oil base during the winter. If I
 understand right, some
 are suggesting the D3 supplementation is a bad idea while
 others don't
 agree. Possible side-effects are bleeding issues (poor
 clotting?) and
 something about how calcium is dealt with? Did I get that
 right?
 
 Best regards,
 Walter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mborg...@att.net
 [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
 Sent: Mon, Jan. 5, 2015 11:48
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
 
 
 Maybe, read carefully on the introduction to the right he
 uses the sun.
 In the following article which form of d3 is he referring
 to, sun, lamp,
 food, fish, sauna, or to his spray or pills which are made
 in India-
 Mary---
 On Mon, 1/5/15, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
 wrote:
 
  Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM
  
  Mercola begs to differ.
  
  
 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vi
 tamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx
  
  Joe
  On 2015-01-05 8:40 AM, mborg...@att.net
  wrote:
   Dee
  
  d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the
  skin) is mouse poison.
   Look up USDA(
  United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such. 
 K2  keeps the body
 from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous  and not to
 be  taking lightly
 unless advice from doctor.  Many people with certain
 conditions should not
 be taking vit  k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol 
  Best  advice research,
 research and more research than make up  your mind.
   Never take any vitamins
  unless you research first.
   Mary
  
  
  
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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Martsmail53
Listen to info on CS from Bob Beck
 

_Click here: Suppressed  Medical Discovery Dr Robert Beck cure for cancer 
and aids - YouTube_ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk)  

 
In a message dated 1/5/2015 11:40:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
ron@gmail.com writes:

Olushola just an hour ago said  Also go to _lef.org
_ (http://lef.org/) A wealth of info on K2,D3 and just about everything  
else.
Ron

On 1/5/2015 8:26 AM, ASL raVen wrote:




Hi Bernadette,
I 101% advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's  and FMS - I used to 
get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I never  got them - when I 
stopped taking them, bam, I'd get a cold. So I know now it  truly works. In 
fact, I have to restock them for this year. 
I buy it from _http://www.delimmune.com_ (http://www.delimmune.com/) 


For others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one  recommend? I canno ingest 
soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I suffer  from photosensitivity! 
My skin gets red rashes and then it itches like crazy  for a few days when I 
try to suntan. My vitamin D level has been low in the  40's and I need to 
raise it up to 80's range. Suggestions?


Kindly, 
RaVen 






 

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Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Deborah Gerard
And why doesn't it make us sick and kills us? 

 On Monday, January 5, 2015 12:11 PM, André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com 
wrote:
   

 Well if it is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review study that 
shows that. 
So far I know rather the opposite is true, there are studies that shows the 
benefit of vitamin D3/AJ
2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 mborg...@att.net:


-That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or gmo's or msg,or drugs 
that kill, I could go forever
Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time defending my statements 
when all of them were right there at their disposal on gov web sites.
Mary---
On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe 
Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM



 On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
 10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
 wrote:


 Dee

 Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open
 computer and type in USDA d3.

 One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it
 used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart
 and get d3 kills the mice every time.

 Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just
 research.

  If D3 is so
 dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is an
 overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3 and
 MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a lot of research
 on many topics and you will see the studies and trials they
 reference concerning D3 and MK-7.

 USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the
 pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally I
 tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead of
 isolates. But isolates have their place.

 Olushola



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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS - ONE GENERATION

2015-01-05 Thread Ode Coyote

Or a lot less

ode


On 1/5/2015 8:33 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

Hi, Ode.
One generation?  Like a maximum of a couple of weeks?
JDM
*From:* Ode Coyote mailto:odecoy...@silverpuppy.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 05, 2015 8:21 AM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS
In nature there are bugs that become resistant to silver in the soil, 
but that resistance [ tolerance? ] disappears in one generation after 
being removed from the presence of silver.


Ode

On 1/5/2015 7:56 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:
Are we producing one-cell “buglets” (virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus) 
that are highly resistant to CS?
I had understood from this List that CS works differently and 
resistance is not possible.

My son is having an experience that might say otherwise.
Please, you research Mavens, clarify!
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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how much of a peer review do 
you want.  Sometimes when reading peer reviews first you must know which d3 are 
they talking about, sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of trying to spell it)
 I have never  read a study on d3 as chol because it is a mouse poison. Clear 
and simple
Mary
Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM
 
 Well if it
 is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review study
 that shows that. 
 So far I
 know rather the opposite is true, there are studies that
 shows the benefit of vitamin
 D3/AJ
 2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 
 mborg...@att.net:
 
 
 -That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or
 gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go forever
 
 Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time
 defending my statements when all of them were right there at
 their disposal on gov web sites.
 
 Mary---
 
 On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the
 Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
 
  10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  Dee
 
 
 
  Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy
 open
 
  computer and type in USDA d3.
 
 
 
  One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think
 it
 
  used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to
 Walmart
 
  and get d3 kills the mice every time.
 
 
 
  Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just
 
  research.
 
 
 
   If D3 is so
 
  dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is
 an
 
  overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3
 and
 
  MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a
 lot of research
 
  on many topics and you will see the studies and trials
 they
 
  reference concerning D3 and MK-7.
 
 
 
  USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the
 
  pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally
 I
 
  tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead
 of
 
  isolates. But isolates have their place.
 
 
 
  Olushola
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

United States Dept of agriculture 
USDA
On Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe 
Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM
 
 Do you have a website
 because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:12, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  
  
  Dee
  Well here I go
 again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and
 type in USDA d3.
  One can still
 purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be
 made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3
 kills the mice every time.
  Every time I
 mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research.
  Why does everyone get so defensive about
 d3??? If you like it well, but if you bleed out 3 pints of
 blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up calcium
 and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain
 barrier.
  I follow Dr. Mercola but never
 believe in anyone always check out everything
  .I followed him with d3 thing in the
 beginning he only sold d3 alone, but than he started adding
 vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he added
 calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why?
  
  Do not get mad at
 me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the
 30's very interesting.  I have studied this for 5
 yrs.  You do the same.
  Mary  
  iOn 
  Mon, 1/5/15, Dee
 d...@deetroy.org
 wrote:
  
  Subject:
 Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 LewRockwell.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM
  
  I use the MK-7 form
 of
  vitamin K which you should always
 take when supplementing
  with D3 and
 when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you
  mean? There are many things which would be
 poisonous to some
  species while being
 fine for others.  Mercola who I trust
 
 implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol.  
  
  I find it very
 difficult to
  obtain D3 from natural
 sources as I do not like fish and
 
 cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of
  exposure that is required to be beneficial
 which is why I
  supplementDee
  
  Sent from
  my iPad
  
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
 
 13:40, mborg...@att.net
  wrote:
  
  
  Dee
  d3(hormone) as
 
 cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse
  poison.  
  Look
 up USDA( United States
  Dept of
 Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 keeps the
  body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is
 dangerous and not to
  be  taking
 lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people
  with certain conditions should not be
 taking vit k and never
  d3 as
 chlorecalciferol
  Best advice
  research, research and more research than
 make up your
  mind.
  Never take any vitamins unless
  you research first.
  Mary    
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
  
  06:56, Jess
 jessi...@optonline.net
  wrote:
 
 
  did you
  say D3
  from a
 mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
  skin.  It has always caused a problem
 for
  me, too much
  urination. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: Sandra
  
  George
 [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015
 9:51
  AM
 
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe:
 
 CSRe:
  CSRe: CSRe:
 CSHe
  Wrote the Book on Vitamin C
 –
  
 
 LewRockwell.com
  Hi There Mary -
 agreed
  instant cure mentality will be
 the
  
  killer of
 humanity - no one wants to take responsibility
  for
  self - like
 yourself and many
  others I myself got
 tired of
  talking to
  the air and stopped - the result is that
 life is
  so much easier, pleasant
 and fun 
  Take very good care of
 you and be blessed
  with insight
  Sandee
  Attitude
  
  
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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread André Juthe
Well a link to a peer-reviewed study which supported that the D3 that is
sold as natural supplement is dangerous would be sufficient, thanks.

2015-01-05 21:01 GMT+01:00 mborg...@att.net:


 well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how much of a peer
 review do you want.  Sometimes when reading peer reviews first you must
 know which d3 are they talking about, sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired
 of trying to spell it)
  I have never  read a study on d3 as chol because it is a mouse poison.
 Clear and simple
 Mary
 Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM

  Well if it
  is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review study
  that shows that.
  So far I
  know rather the opposite is true, there are studies that
  shows the benefit of vitamin
  D3/AJ
  2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00
  mborg...@att.net:


  -That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or
  gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go forever

  Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time
  defending my statements when all of them were right there at
  their disposal on gov web sites.

  Mary---

  On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com
  wrote:



   Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe:
  CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the
  Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

   To: silver-list@eskimo.com

   Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM







   On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at

   10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net

   wrote:





   Dee



   Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy
  open

   computer and type in USDA d3.



   One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think
  it

   used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to
  Walmart

   and get d3 kills the mice every time.



   Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just

   research.



If D3 is so

   dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is
  an

   overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3
  and

   MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a
  lot of research

   on many topics and you will see the studies and trials
  they

   reference concerning D3 and MK-7.



   USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the

   pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally
  I

   tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead
  of

   isolates. But isolates have their place.



   Olushola







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Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Dee
I was not aware that I was mad at you - I just asked you a question.  Neither 
am I defensive about D3, just saying what I have experienced and the fact that 
Mercola seems happy to recommend supplementation.  He also says that sun is the 
best way to get D3.  I take on board all knowledge and I will also look up the 
reference you gave.  Warfarin kills rats by making them bleed out and yet they 
give it to people to prevent clots, so as I said, horses for courses.  Also, 
the reason Vit K is given as well is to prevent the calcium being deposited in 
the vascular system, not to prevent bleeding.  I too have done research, which 
is why I am on a list such as this in order to gain by others experienceDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:12, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 Dee
 Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type 
 in USDA d3.
 One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made 
 by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every 
 time.
 Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research.
 Why does everyone get so defensive about d3??? If you like it well, but if 
 you bleed out 3 pints of blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up 
 calcium and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain barrier.
 I follow Dr. Mercola but never believe in anyone always check out everything
 .I followed him with d3 thing in the beginning he only sold d3 alone, but 
 than he started adding vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he 
 added calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why?
 
 Do not get mad at me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the 
 30's very interesting.  I have studied this for 5 yrs.  You do the same.
 Mary  
 iOn 
 Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the 
 Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM
 
 I use the MK-7 form of
 vitamin K which you should always take when supplementing
 with D3 and when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you
 mean? There are many things which would be poisonous to some
 species while being fine for others.  Mercola who I trust
 implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol.  
 
 I find it very difficult to
 obtain D3 from natural sources as I do not like fish and
 cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of
 exposure that is required to be beneficial which is why I
 supplementDee
 
 Sent from
 my iPad
 
 On 5 Jan 2015, at
 13:40, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 
 Dee
 d3(hormone) as
 cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse
 poison.  
 Look up USDA( United States
 Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 keeps the
 body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to
 be  taking lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people
 with certain conditions should not be taking vit k and never
 d3 as chlorecalciferol
 Best advice
 research, research and more research than make up your
 mind.
 Never take any vitamins unless
 you research first.
 Mary
 On 5 Jan 2015, at
 
 06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
 did you
 say D3
 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
 skin.  It has always caused a problem for
 me, too much
 urination. Jess
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandra
 
 George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51
 AM
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe
 Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 
 LewRockwell.com
 Hi There Mary - agreed
 instant cure mentality will be the
 
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility
 for
 self - like yourself and many
 others I myself got tired of
 talking to
 the air and stopped - the result is that life is
 so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed
 with insight
 Sandee
 Attitude
 
 
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Re: CSCF is caused by mineral deficiency

2015-01-05 Thread Phil Morrison
Hi ASL raVen,

Dr. Richard Olree co-authored book Minerals for the
Genetic Code.   Olree's three most essential mineral
co-factors for the production of proteins from amino acids
are selenium, iodine, and boron.  I buy these three minerals
in Olree's Grand Unified organic mineral complex from Hillman Health Foods,
Inc. (noted below).

http://emineral.info/HHF/

Once shelled, brazil nuts slowly lose selenium.  Soaking
nuts probably accelerates this loss.  I can't find brazil nuts
in shells, so I buy shelled nuts from Trader Joe's and shred
​them.
​Tasty snack.  Brazil nuts are 497 ppm selenium.


Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Dee
Do you have a website because I couldn't find anything at all.Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:12, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 
 
 Dee
 Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type 
 in USDA d3.
 One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made 
 by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every 
 time.
 Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research.
 Why does everyone get so defensive about d3??? If you like it well, but if 
 you bleed out 3 pints of blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up 
 calcium and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain barrier.
 I follow Dr. Mercola but never believe in anyone always check out everything
 .I followed him with d3 thing in the beginning he only sold d3 alone, but 
 than he started adding vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he 
 added calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why?
 
 Do not get mad at me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the 
 30's very interesting.  I have studied this for 5 yrs.  You do the same.
 Mary  
 iOn 
 Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the 
 Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM
 
 I use the MK-7 form of
 vitamin K which you should always take when supplementing
 with D3 and when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you
 mean? There are many things which would be poisonous to some
 species while being fine for others.  Mercola who I trust
 implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol.  
 
 I find it very difficult to
 obtain D3 from natural sources as I do not like fish and
 cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of
 exposure that is required to be beneficial which is why I
 supplementDee
 
 Sent from
 my iPad
 
 On 5 Jan 2015, at
 13:40, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
 
 
 Dee
 d3(hormone) as
 cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse
 poison.  
 Look up USDA( United States
 Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 keeps the
 body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to
 be  taking lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people
 with certain conditions should not be taking vit k and never
 d3 as chlorecalciferol
 Best advice
 research, research and more research than make up your
 mind.
 Never take any vitamins unless
 you research first.
 Mary
 On 5 Jan 2015, at
 
 06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
 did you
 say D3
 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
 skin.  It has always caused a problem for
 me, too much
 urination. Jess
 -Original Message-
 From: Sandra
 
 George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51
 AM
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List
 Subject: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSHe
 Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 
 LewRockwell.com
 Hi There Mary - agreed
 instant cure mentality will be the
 
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility
 for
 self - like yourself and many
 others I myself got tired of
 talking to
 the air and stopped - the result is that life is
 so much easier, pleasant and fun 
 Take very good care of you and be blessed
 with insight
 Sandee
 Attitude
 
 
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CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol

2015-01-05 Thread Joe Huard
Mercola begs to differ. 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vitamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx


Joe
On 2015-01-05 8:40 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote:

Dee
d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse poison.
Look up USDA( United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 keeps 
the body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to be  taking 
lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people with certain conditions should 
not be taking vit k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol
Best advice research, research and more research than make up your mind.
Never take any vitamins unless you research first.
Mary




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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread Dee
I'm afraid the one I use has soy lecithinDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 17:40, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Olushola just an hour ago said  Also go to lef.org
 A wealth of info on K2,D3 and just about everything else.
 Ron
 
 On 1/5/2015 8:26 AM, ASL raVen wrote:
 
 Hi Bernadette,
 I 101% advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's and FMS - I used to 
 get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I never got them - when I 
 stopped taking them, bam, I'd get a cold. So I know now it truly works. In 
 fact, I have to restock them for this year. 
 I buy it from http://www.delimmune.com
 
 For others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one recommend? I canno ingest 
 soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I suffer from photosensitivity! My 
 skin gets red rashes and then it itches like crazy for a few days when I try 
 to suntan. My vitamin D level has been low in the 40's and I need to raise 
 it up to 80's range. Suggestions?
 
 Kindly, 
 RaVen 
 
 
 
   
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Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

There are many items on the market that will help with d3.
dr. Mercola sells a uvb lamp, he also sells saunas which he states will do the 
job. Cod liver oil but be careful with it do research as some are just fish 
oils and some have synthetic a and d.  Sardines, which  I take, and salmon. 
 I did a study on a group of people living in Florida I interviewed 42 people 
who went out in the sun every day , they were dressed in tee shirts or no 
shirts,men, and shorts, in morning and evening also went to work, golfed, 
shopping etc. Of the 42 29 were on d3 per their docs they were LOW IN D3 
anywhere from 5k to 10 k mg daily.  Of the 29 19 had bleeding incidents. As you 
know d3 stays in the liver.
If you are in the sun for 20min early morning or late evening you will get 
anywhere from 20.000 to 50.000 mg of d3, so one figures they are in the sun a 
total of average 2 to 3 hrs a day and yet they are low and have been taking d3 
an average of 3.5 yrs-
Mary---
On Mon, 1/5/15, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: CSRephrasing question -- resistance to CS
 To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 8:26 AM
 
 
 Hi Bernadette,I 101%
 advocate Del Immune V too - having Hashimoto's and FMS -
 I used to get colds and/or flus easily. When I took D.I.V. I
 never got them - when I stopped taking them, bam, I'd
 get a cold. So I know now it truly works. In fact, I have to
 restock them for this year. I buy
 it from http://www.delimmune.com
 For
 others: which Vitamin D3 supplement does one recommend? I
 canno ingest soy or dairy. As for sunshine, ironically I
 suffer from photosensitivity! My skin gets red rashes and
 then it itches like crazy for a few days when I try to
 suntan. My vitamin D level has been low in the 40's and
 I need to raise it up to 80's range.
 Suggestions?
 Kindly, RaVen 



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Re: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

Maybe, read carefully on the introduction to the right he uses the sun.
In the following article which form of d3 is he referring to, sun, lamp, food, 
fish, sauna, or to his spray or pills which are made in India-
Mary---
On Mon, 1/5/15, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:

 Subject: CSVit. D3 cholecalciferol
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 11:13 AM
 
 Mercola begs to differ.
 
 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vitamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx
 
 Joe
 On 2015-01-05 8:40 AM, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  Dee
 
 d3(hormone) as cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the
 skin) is mouse poison.
  Look up USDA(
 United States Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2
 keeps the body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous
 and not to be  taking lightly unless advice from doctor. 
 Many people with certain conditions should not be taking vit
 k and never d3 as chlorecalciferol
  Best
 advice research, research and more research than make up
 your mind.
  Never take any vitamins
 unless you research first.
  Mary
 
 
 
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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Olushola Camara
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote:


 Dee
 Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and
 type in USDA d3.
 One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be
 made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice
 every time.
 Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research.


If D3 is so dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is an
overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3 and MK-7. Also go to
lef.org who does a lot of research on many topics and you will see the
studies and trials they reference concerning D3 and MK-7.

USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the pharmaceutical
corporations than we the people. Personally I tried to get my nutrients
from whole food sources instead of isolates. But isolates have their place.

Olushola


Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Deborah Gerard
Who on earth would trust anything the gov't would say? Who do you think runs 
the USDA? 

 On Monday, January 5, 2015 10:12 AM, mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net 
wrote:
   

 
Dee
Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy open computer and type 
in USDA d3.
One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think it used to be made by 
Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to Walmart and get d3 kills the mice every time.
Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just research.
Why does everyone get so defensive about d3??? If you like it well, but if you 
bleed out 3 pints of blood as a lot of people do.since d3 does eat up 
calcium and puts it into the blood so now it crosses the blood brain barrier.
I follow Dr. Mercola but never believe in anyone always check out everything
.I followed him with d3 thing in the beginning he only sold d3 alone, but than 
he started adding vit k, I assume so people will not bleed, than he added 
calcium( I do not know if he still does) guess why?

Do not get mad at me, Research all the way to the beginning of d3 back to the 
30's very interesting.  I have studied this for 5 yrs.  You do the same.
Mary  
iOn 
Mon, 1/5/15, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the 
Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 6:44 AM
 
 I use the MK-7 form of
 vitamin K which you should always take when supplementing
 with D3 and when you say mouse poison, what exactly do you
 mean? There are many things which would be poisonous to some
 species while being fine for others.  Mercola who I trust
 implicitly, advocates D3 as cholecalciferol.  
 
 I find it very difficult to
 obtain D3 from natural sources as I do not like fish and
 cannot spend enough time in the sun with the level of
 exposure that is required to be beneficial which is why I
 supplementDee
 
 Sent from
 my iPad
 
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
 13:40, mborg...@att.net
 wrote:
  
  
  Dee
  d3(hormone) as
 cholecalciferol( not from the sun to the skin) is mouse
 poison.  
  Look up USDA( United States
 Dept of Agriculture)d3 is listed as such.  K2 keeps the
 body from bleeding.  K2 in itself is dangerous and not to
 be  taking lightly unless advice from doctor.  Many people
 with certain conditions should not be taking vit k and never
 d3 as chlorecalciferol
  Best advice
 research, research and more research than make up your
 mind.
  Never take any vitamins unless
 you research first.
  Mary    
  On 5 Jan 2015, at
 
 06:56, Jess jessi...@optonline.net
  wrote:
  
  did you
  say D3
 from a mouse poison? I thought it was from sheep
  skin.  It has always caused a problem for
 me, too much
  urination. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: Sandra
 
 George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 9:51
 AM
  To: Mike Devour - Silver List
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe:
 CSRe:
  CSRe: CSRe: CSHe
 Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 
 LewRockwell.com
  Hi There Mary - agreed
 instant cure mentality will be the
 
 killer of humanity - no one wants to take responsibility
 for
  self - like yourself and many
 others I myself got tired of
  talking to
 the air and stopped - the result is that life is
  so much easier, pleasant and fun 
  Take very good care of you and be blessed
 with insight
  Sandee
  Attitude
 
 
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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

I agree with you 
I am recovering from a severe brain injury, it happened in 94 top of scalp came 
off. I lost 10 yrs of my life because I could not read, write, see, walk , 
talk,see color etc.  The doctors at UW said the only thing to do with me is to 
put me into a institution, at another hospital they said I had extreme 
alhimers(spelling) and wanted to put me in a home.  Needless to say I cried a 
lot to the point of suicide but God stepped in.
My daughter introduced me to the computer, I could only use it 2 or 3 min a day 
because I could barely see, but I found out about magnesium chloride, it 
latterly saved my life.
I can now walk, but I fall a lot, talk, read, write and I do not need 
glasses..I am 72 
Mary
On Sun, 1/4/15, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C 
– LewRockwell.com
 To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, January 4, 2015, 9:54 AM
 
 
 I can wholly agree with Mary with the
 unfortunate predictable responses from those around us - not
 realizing diet, exercise, out-of-the-box researching skills
 --- for many years my family and friends would scoff at me
 when I pin pointed certain ailments that was unheard of. 
 Many confess they refuse to change their diet/lifestyles and
 I can understand how addictions plays a huge role in it ---
 I'm not perfect myself but with fervent research and
 outreach to alternative individuals who could help me, I am
 pretty proud of how far I've come in life in terms of
 dealing with the auto-immune disease and other illnesses.
 It's sadly expensive, but health comes
 first! 
 May
 2015 brings you all healing health. 
 Love,RaVen



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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread mborgert

natural supplement is there such a thing?. The only real natural supplement 
is the sun, next sardines, salmon, cod liver oil, lamps , saunas, food very 
little d3 in foods.
The thing is with d3 it stays in the liver, the gov. recommends very low mgs 
daily for a reason.. 
 D3 is in everything so one must add up all d2 and d3 as it is all synthetic 
unless otherwise stated.  
Mary
'On Mon, 1/5/15, André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: 
CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 12:08 PM
 
 Well a
 link to a peer-reviewed study which supported that the D3
 that is sold as natural supplement is dangerous would be
 sufficient, thanks. 
 2015-01-05 21:01 GMT+01:00 
 mborg...@att.net:
 
 
 well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how much
 of a peer review do you want.  Sometimes when reading peer
 reviews first you must know which d3 are they talking about,
 sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of trying to spell
 it)
 
  I have never  read a study on d3 as chol because it is a
 mouse poison. Clear and simple
 
 Mary
 
 Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C
 – LewRockwell.com
 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM
 
 
 
  Well if it
 
  is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review
 study
 
  that shows that. 
 
  So far I
 
  know rather the opposite is true, there are studies
 that
 
  shows the benefit of vitamin
 
  D3/AJ
 
  2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00
 
  mborg...@att.net:
 
 
 
 
 
  -That is a good question why haven't they banned it,
 or
 
  gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go forever
 
 
 
  Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time
 
  defending my statements when all of them were right there
 at
 
  their disposal on gov web sites.
 
 
 
  Mary---
 
 
 
  On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE:
 CSRe:
 
  CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote
 the
 
  Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
 
 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 
 
   Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
 
 
 
   10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Dee
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is
 easy
 
  open
 
 
 
   computer and type in USDA d3.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I
 think
 
  it
 
 
 
   used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to
 
  Walmart
 
 
 
   and get d3 kills the mice every time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar
 just
 
 
 
   research.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    If D3 is so
 
 
 
   dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There
 is
 
  an
 
 
 
   overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of
 D3
 
  and
 
 
 
   MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does
 a
 
  lot of research
 
 
 
   on many topics and you will see the studies and
 trials
 
  they
 
 
 
   reference concerning D3 and MK-7.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the
 
 
 
   pharmaceutical corporations than we the people.
 Personally
 
  I
 
 
 
   tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources
 instead
 
  of
 
 
 
   isolates. But isolates have their place.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Olushola
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread Deborah Gerard
It's a rat poison according to the gov't site who doesn't want us taking 
anything that would contribute to our health and we being. Give me a break that 
is some research you've done there! 

 On Monday, January 5, 2015 3:01 PM, mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net 
wrote:
   

 
well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how much of a peer review do 
you want.  Sometimes when reading peer reviews first you must know which d3 are 
they talking about, sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of trying to spell it)
 I have never  read a study on d3 as chol because it is a mouse poison. Clear 
and simple
Mary
Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM
 
 Well if it
 is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review study
 that shows that. 
 So far I
 know rather the opposite is true, there are studies that
 shows the benefit of vitamin
 D3/AJ
 2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 
 mborg...@att.net:
 
 
 -That is a good question why haven't they banned it, or
 gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go forever
 
 Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time
 defending my statements when all of them were right there at
 their disposal on gov web sites.
 
 Mary---
 
 On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the
 Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com
 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at
 
  10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  Dee
 
 
 
  Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is easy
 open
 
  computer and type in USDA d3.
 
 
 
  One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I think
 it
 
  used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to
 Walmart
 
  and get d3 kills the mice every time.
 
 
 
  Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar just
 
  research.
 
 
 
   If D3 is so
 
  dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There is
 an
 
  overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of D3
 and
 
  MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does a
 lot of research
 
  on many topics and you will see the studies and trials
 they
 
  reference concerning D3 and MK-7.
 
 
 
  USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the
 
  pharmaceutical corporations than we the people. Personally
 I
 
  tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources instead
 of
 
  isolates. But isolates have their place.
 
 
 
  Olushola
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com

2015-01-05 Thread André Juthe
Natural meant taken from natural sources, not artificially synthesised,
do you have a link to support your claim or not?

2015-01-05 22:13 GMT+01:00 mborg...@att.net:


 natural supplement is there such a thing?. The only real natural
 supplement is the sun, next sardines, salmon, cod liver oil, lamps ,
 saunas, food very little d3 in foods.
 The thing is with d3 it stays in the liver, the gov. recommends very low
 mgs daily for a reason..
  D3 is in everything so one must add up all d2 and d3 as it is all
 synthetic unless otherwise stated.
 Mary
 'On Mon, 1/5/15, André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com wrote:

  Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE: CSRe:
 CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C –
 LewRockwell.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 12:08 PM

  Well a
  link to a peer-reviewed study which supported that the D3
  that is sold as natural supplement is dangerous would be
  sufficient, thanks.
  2015-01-05 21:01 GMT+01:00
  mborg...@att.net:


  well it is a poison d3 as cholecolciferol (sp) so how much
  of a peer review do you want.  Sometimes when reading peer
  reviews first you must know which d3 are they talking about,
  sun, food, lamp, sauna,or chol( tired of trying to spell
  it)

   I have never  read a study on d3 as chol because it is a
  mouse poison. Clear and simple

  Mary

  Re: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote the Book on Vitamin C
  – LewRockwell.com

   To: silver-list@eskimo.com

   Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 9:10 AM



   Well if it

   is so dangerous it should at least be some peer-review
  study

   that shows that.

   So far I

   know rather the opposite is true, there are studies
  that

   shows the benefit of vitamin

   D3/AJ

   2015-01-05 17:11 GMT+01:00

   mborg...@att.net:





   -That is a good question why haven't they banned it,
  or

   gmo's or msg,or drugs that kill, I could go forever



   Now you see why I quit teaching I spent all my time

   defending my statements when all of them were right there
  at

   their disposal on gov web sites.



   Mary---



   On Mon, 1/5/15, Olushola Camara camaramah...@gmail.com

   wrote:







Subject: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRE:
  CSRe:

   CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSRe: CSHe Wrote
  the

   Book on Vitamin C – LewRockwell.com



To: silver-list@eskimo.com



Date: Monday, January 5, 2015, 7:57 AM















On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at



10:12 AM,  mborg...@att.net



wrote:











Dee







Well here I go again, again look up USDA D3 it is
  easy

   open



computer and type in USDA d3.







One can still purchase  VITAMIN D3 Mouse poison, I
  think

   it



used to be made by Tom Cat INC. For me I just go to

   Walmart



and get d3 kills the mice every time.







Every time I mention d3 everyone gets in a up roar
  just



research.







 If D3 is so



dangerous, why hasn't the government ban it? There
  is

   an



overwhelming amount of data showing the benefits of
  D3

   and



MK-7. Also go to lef.org who does
  a

   lot of research



on many topics and you will see the studies and
  trials

   they



reference concerning D3 and MK-7.







USDA has proven itself to be more of a friend to the



pharmaceutical corporations than we the people.
  Personally

   I



tried to get my nutrients from whole food sources
  instead

   of



isolates. But isolates have their place.







Olushola















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