CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
Dear Friends In 1980 I briefly worked with botanist Bargyla Rateaver PhD, a notorious long-time organic-gardening professor for U.California. At the time Dr. Rateaver occasionally published on dangers to DNA posed by microwave cooking. As I knew something about nutrition, I wanted to know all about this issue. I was so fortunate to be able to directly and leisurely view this beloved professor's personal collection of research data on the issue. And so at that time I quickly learned... There is no argument that microwave cooking damages cells of many foods. But what I learned is that all the available reports on the topic which Dr. B had collected concerning hazards of microwaved food indicated the damage to biological cells was identical to that long reported with conventional cooking methods... And I learned it's not so easy to discuss the issue. __ Anyway- re the discovery of water crystals - Such *beautiful *pictures! So imaginative. There must be scores of photographers making images of the phenomenon. But that is apparently not the case. Who can find any independent verification for the phenomena? Not I. What I have found is that this pretty book is a product of Transcendental Meditation interests. As I am told is the case with the film What the BLEEP Do We Know which covers similar terrain. Otoh I absolutely *3* this one TM film: David Wants to Fly - about David Lynch. http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-flyLove the meditators at their flying academy Did I notice that all TM flyers seem to be v.young, athletic white males... very occasionally overseen by older Indian male functionaries? Odd.) [btw,...another magnitude of* meditation *can be found in Crazy Wisdom http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/crazy_wisdom_the_jack_kerouac_school_of_disembodied_poetics ] Leo, Pasadena Hi Jane, For a long time, convenience had made me turn a blind eye to much of =20 what I've read about negative effects of microwave on food. Then I read The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a =20 scientist who became fascinated by the structures of ice crystals =20 after varying factors were used on water (types of music, words taped =20= to container, micro-wave, etc.). He did a small, scientific paper =20 about his observations and it that went viral, then was republished =20 for the general public. Just seeing the deformed structure of micro-=20 waved water has made me finally use it rarely. I simply didn't want =20 that sort of ugly chaos in the water of my body. It also made me rethink the studies done years ago of plants leaning =20 toward or cringing from different types of music, language, etc. It =20 might not have been the plants responding at all, but rather, the =20 water within the plants. Check it out! Be well, L=E9na
CSRe: Coconut Oil /Vegan butter
I'll second Elizabeth- http://www.tropicaltraditions.com http://www.tropicaltraditions.com - excellent Coconut oil information for all- Of general interest - they explain how certain production techniques impart a sour note to some tropical oil products. Coconut oils have wonderful characteristics used for frying; And as far as I can tell, Coconut oil is superior with everything- popcorn to potatoes. To me coconut-oil is the very lightest of fry-oils; The benefits of its non-cholesterol structure have long been recognized by chefs around the world. IMO South-Asian cuisine cannot be successfully replicated without coconut oil *Coconut oils have characteristic odors, *which play a part in the coconut cream used in sauces and confectionery- *But Coconut oil does NOT impart this coconut flavor ** *to foods-- **no more than grape oils taste of Welch's Grape Juice... No more than butter tastes like blue cheese. VEGAN BUTTER I believe the Coconut thread attracted a comment about vegan butter. Every chef and Hindu vegetarian knows- dairy butter has no substitute. I am the most depraved kind of butter addict. After years I found help for my disease: Tahini-Miso sauce Tahini has dairy richness; Miso is sweet and salty. *It works if you work it. * Recipe: 8 oz fresh tahini [about 1 cup] 1-to-2 Tablespoons miso, to taste 1-to-2 Cups best water Blend 1:1 by weight .water with Sweet White Miso, Add more water until it is same consistency as the tahini. Blend tahini and miso mix, adding water until it's a pourable sauce. NOTES Tahini gels when cooked or heated. so I make my VEGAN BUTTER watery when used for cooking In Berkeley I can get fresh, imported Chinese Tahini from made from roasted sesame. I use the sweetest miso you can find- Hawaiian-style white miso is ideal, but any shiro miso [ie white miso] works well. White misos do not keep well, so most of my VEGAN BUTTER lives in my freezer. -Leo in Cali --- Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com wrote: tropical traditions has the best coconut oil in my opinion, I have =20 been buying from them for years. Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #399
When the main problem is an allergy to household dust, a neti pot is not much help. Leo - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 6:43 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #399
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #233
Try screwing the bulb into a desk lamp with floating arms and a desk clamp. Leo - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #233
Re: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol
Has anyone actually benifited from lip-c? Leo - Original Message - From: Lisa To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:39 AM Subject: RE: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol Harold, I actually tried this and found that no matter how much I added.my solution continued to fizz - can you give us an idea as to how much *may* be the appropriate amount to add before the fizzing stops? Lisa -- From: Harold MacDonald [mailto:har...@telus.net] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:17 AM To: Silver list Subject: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol After trying a few different ways to make Lipo-C,I settled on putting 3 tblspns of Soy Lecithin in one cup of DW and let it sit at room temp.until Lecithin was fully in solution.Then I put two[2] tspns of Ascorbic acid in 1/2 cup of DW plus one tspn of bicarb [1],let it fizz right down.If I see any sedimentation on the bottom,then I tweak it by adding a pinch of Vit.C.,if it fizzes then I add a bit more until no reaction.If the first pinch of C does nothing,then I add a pinch of bicarb,if it fizzes then I repeat the process until no reaction.I have found this to give me as close to 100% as you can hope for.In my last four brews I had two with very slight traces of Leci. floating on top.These seemed to be from larger sized granules. When I measure the Lecithin I do notice that the size of the granules do vary.If I had a precise scale I would try doing it by weight, just to see. Harold I use the jewellry cleaner from Harbour Freight now.
CSdependable sonicator
I read some reviews of the harbour freight model not standing up to repeated use. What is a good model to use when doing 2 litres at a time? Leo - Original Message - From: Frank To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:09 PM Subject: Re: CSCS: Lipo-C et al, COQ10 Yes, thank you Harold, very interesting. Do you know where can I get the actual procedure to convert the supplement to liposomal state? I hera that you use a sonicator (jewrelry cleaner?) What weight ratios do you se and how long do you sonicate? Thanks again Frank From: Harold MacDonald Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:04 PM To: Silver list Subject: CSCS: Lipo-C et al, COQ10 A snip from Brooks Bradleys' post re Liposomal Vitamin C protocol An astounding revelationto us.TO Increase Absorption Dramatically - Regular [taken orally] vitamin C is absorbed at approximately 19%, the balance remains in the gastrointestinal tract to attract water and loosen the bowels. Nanotechnology, liposomalized vitamin C is absorbed at 93%, measurable in the blood stream. A 390% increase in absorption! Get IV results with oral dosage It is estimated the DIY researcher can produce the active LET portion of this solution for 15 cents per gramas against about $1.00 per gram from commerci!al sources. xx My only experience doing this protocol is Lipo C and Lipo L-Glutathione. I have to use logic re other supplements.Some are to be taken with food,some are ambiguous/either way,and some on empty stomach,or between meals. This tells me that some supps. have to be mixed with digestive enzymes/acids,etc to be effective. But,very little Vitamin C, gets past the stomach contents ,especially bile acids.By liposoming with Lecithin,it is transformed into nano sized spheres,which are then able to sneak past the Enzymes and liver bile acids,going straight to where it is needed. Assuming COQ10 is found in foods and if sufficient[?],it is then utilized through digestion and absorbed.If it is put into the liposomal form ,then it follows that it will be isolated and able to circumvent the normal digestion cycle;which makes me very doubtful that I would go that route.The least harm would be a waste of money.If this is going to be taken ,then a final absorbable calculation should be done re dosage to not exceed a recommended daily end requirement. For best results,I would take it on an empty stomach. Does this answer your questions? Harold
CSLiposomal info pls
I thought you have to dissolve the serrapeptase or curcumin, vitamin C etc., in water before it is encapsulated. So if the stuff settles down to the bottom, can it really be encapsulated? And if the stuff is dissolved in non-distilled water, what difference does that make? This is a fascinating learning experience for me. Leo
Re: CSinfo about narcolepsy and/or cataplexy
I hear great things about Healers who share out of Colorado. They deal in energy healing. Leo ssage - From: Rusty Moncrief To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:45 PM Subject: CSinfo about narcolepsy and/or cataplexy Does anyone on this list have any experience with narcolepsy or cataplexy? If so, are there any natural remedies that you would recommend? I've been researching this information on the net and found cayenne, hypericum perforatum, schizandra chinesis, calcium lactate, magnesium lactate and vitamin B6 might help but would love some non-biased info. Thank you in advance, Rusty
Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list
You are right, Dorothy, if this were a public forum owned by the public. But it is open to the public at the will of a private individual. The terms, prejudice and patronize are relevant only in truly public areas that are publicly owned. You have every right to host your own private group and invite the public to join. But you make the rules, and constitutional rights do not apply. Leo - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list This sounds very prejudiced and indeed, patronising, to me. I believe Dave has as much right to be here as anyone--his input is as valuable as anyone else's and to start 'calibrating' him because he does not share certain viewpoints, is, I think deplorable. Ours not to judge--to coin a phrase! dee On 4 Oct 2010, at 18:22, Marshall Dudley wrote: Posting to a forum is always a problem. As one progresses spiritually they find that at some point they realize that giving information to someone that does not want it is infringing on their free will. While this can be easily avoided on a one on one situation, for a forum it is impossible, for to maintain a level of knowledge no higher than the lowest calibrating member will not assist anyone. One has to shoot more for the average level of the list. For instance there are things I post on the off topic list which I will not post here because it would infringe on the belief system of some of those on this list. Unfortunately Dave calibrates much much lower than the average person on this list (25 vs 565), and it is very obvious that he is misplaced, this is not the forum for him. He needs to find a list that calibrates no more than 200 which is the neutral point to be comfortable and where his free will to believe what he wants is not being infringed on. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPrill beads
I place magnets around my shower hose, and it feels different. Leo - Original Message - From: Lisa To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: RE: CSPrill beads Marshall, I'm interested in knowing just how your son uses magnets on his house water. How and where does he place the magnets (and of what size)? Lisa *** {snip} Water undergoing shear in a magnetic field gets restructured. According to Brookes this results in among other things an increase in solubility. I also know that my son uses magnets on his house water which appear to stop all scaling in his pipes by the same mechanism. {snip} -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpederson's silver
Okay, Jim, Ode, now that you have weighed in with intuition and Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS, how about some hard science that might actually help unenlightened laymen? Leo - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: Re: CSpederson's silver A few moments of his video gave me that intuition, before any data was offered Strange. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: This guy is calling brown pigs blue cows in a herd of goats dressed to look like chickens. Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS. Ode At 10:35 AM 8/16/2010 -0600, you wrote: Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by Dr. Gordon Pederson at http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/? Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it? Leo -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpederson's silver
Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by Dr. Gordon Pederson at http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/? Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it? Leo
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
Does anyone have experience with Dr. Gordon Pedersen's CS? Leo - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687
CSDr. Godon Pedersen's CS
Does anyone have experience with Dr. Godon Pedersen's CS? Leo
Re: CSMagnesium deficiency...
Has anyone tried mixing a bit of DMSO with magnesium oil? For experimenting, I just add an equal amount of distilled water to a given volume of Mg sulphate (Epsom salts), swish it a few times a day, and just let it stand. Then when it is gooey, I add a few drops of DMSO. Today I had 10 ml of goo and I added 5 drops of DMSO, hoping to speed absorption and avoid the separation of water from the mixture on my skin. Any other suggestions on speeding absorption? Leo - Original Message - From: Garrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: CSMagnesium deficiency... Magnesium chloride is disruptive if you are eating cooked food. If you want to flood the zone more quickly then try going on a raw only diet for five days. Lots of fresh juices. I have done this. Watermelon is great and you can juice the rind. I drank rind juice with one teaspoon of MgCl flakes in it each morning. That's how I got up to speed on magnesium. Now I use the mag-oil externally garrick On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:56 PM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi folks, The long-timers know that I have been battling with the consequences of mercury toxicity after having a dozen amalgam fillings placed in my mouth over a period of 30 years, and then removed in June of 2006. Up until a couple of weeks ago, I was following three separate oral supplement protocols for iodine, digestive support, and a series of herbal and non-pharmaceutical antifungals to fight yeast overgrowth, plus a smattering of other supplements. It was a LOT of pills to take every day, all day, and of the three protocols, the antifungals were showing the least results -- as in none. So, I basically stopped everything except the digestive supplement while I reassess and decide what to do next. Well, in the process I discovered what a bad magnesium deficiency feels like! Over a week ago, I started to get a sore right shoulder, right about on the top front area of the rotator cuff. It got gradually worse each day, until it became quite painful to raise my arm even to shoulder height. Over the last day or two, it worsened, spreading down my arm to the elbow and even the wrist. By last night the pain and soreness was constant and I barely slept. I couldn't find a comfortable position for my arm and shoulder no matter how I tried. My other arm had also started to exhibit the beginning signs of the same thing, and one of my knees even started to give me twinges as well! Time to do something! Just a few weeks ago I'd suggested my wife start taking magnesium for her sore shoulder, elbow (bell ringing injury!) and plantar fasciitis, based on things I'd read here on the list about it's benefits for connective tissue health. This continues the longstanding tradition of people here bringing up useful subjects just when I seem to need to hear about them! salutes So this morning I dig out her bottle of Magnesium Citrate and the carton of Emergen-C! After six capsules of the former and eight packets of the latter, spread throughout the day, and definitely hitting the bowel tolerance level already, I am pleased to report that my pain this evening is much reduced. I should be able to sleep much better tonight. There are other supplements I need to start or restart, which I'm still evaluating, but it's obvious that magnesium is on the short list. I'll probably mix up some more magnesium oil (saturated solution of magnesium chloride in water) and get back into using that for transdermal absorption as well. So, thanks for last month's discussion of magnesium, folks! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Gurdjieff-- How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?
Re: CSLiposomal Vit C absorbability vs. sodium ascorbate
Anyone try adding baking soda to mg oil for absorption? Leo - Original Message - From: Silver Smith To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:25 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vit C absorbability vs. sodium ascorbate I make it myself. SS On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Del d...@altsystem.com wrote: Do you purchase sodium ascorbate or make it yourself? Del - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:28 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vit C absorbability vs. sodium ascorbate Brooks recommends sodium ascorbate to be used with LET Vit C. This is what I use and it tastes better than the ascorbic acid. Besides, bicarb has other alkalising uses in the body. dee On 24 Jun 2010, at 21:30, Silver Smith wrote: I have read that Vit C (ascorbic acid) when mixed with Baking Soda will form sodium ascorbate that is supposedly more absorbable than Vit C. I read that Linus Pauling took his Vit C that way. See sources below. My questions are: 1. Is this true? 2. If so, how does the absorbability of sodium ascorbate compare to LET-Vit C? 3. What does the LET-Vit C do that the sodium ascorbate can't do? Thanks, SS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSinus Infections
Don't recall if I mentioned this, but probiotics works best for me. But a bit pricey. Leo - Original Message - From: bodhisattva To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: CSSinus Infections I recommend you purchase a Nebulizer off Ebay, then inhale through your nose, and pulling it up deeply into your sinuses. I used to suffer severe recurrent sinus issues. No longer. I got better and I fired my doctor, and started to do things myself! Some things I feel that benefited me greatly other than the above. http://cgi.ebay.com/Large-Stainless-Steel-Neti-Pot-w-DVD-and-Salt-Packets_W0QQitemZ110491051835QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b9c7a73b Neti Pots are AMAZING! Salt is best, but you can do salt and add 1 drop of Eucalyptus Essential Oil to clear sinus issues FAST. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/terminator_zapper.html This placed over your sinus areas cures then quite rapidly. I have had so much good luck with this device, I purchased a second one! You can find them on Ebay and elsewhere as well. (No financial interest in recommending it) http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html Negative ions. Most ionizers on the market do absolutely nothing, and I have expensive instruments that proved this. Very difficult to get a sinus infect in a strong negative ion field. This guys stuff works. (no, I have no financial interest in recommending it) Finally, Traditional Chinese Remedies are extremely effective for Sinus issues.. These are cures, not symptom relievers Good for more chronic conditions:http://www.heavenearthchineseherbs.com/clear-mountain-air-teapill-ding-chuan-wan-p-115.html Good for acute onset: http://www.heavenearthchineseherbs.com/clear-wind-heat-teapills-sang-ju-yin-wan-p-87.html
Re: CSasthma
- Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:52 AM Subject: Re: CSasthma Golly, I guess I have alot to learn, I ordered the book by Jim Humble on the same day I got your email. Now, I am afraid to go ahead with it in any form. Seems like I'm back to square one. Thanks for the infoKathy - Original Message - From: poast To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: Re: CSasthma Hello Kathy, Chlorine dioxide is a respiratory irritant. People who are exposed to it developed asthma like symptoms. I am not sure if it behaves the same from the inside out, but I would advise extreme caution should you actually decide to take this route. Tom - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:37 AM Subject: CSasthma I want thank all you wonderful caring people for answering my plea for help with asthma, each hint/tip I am researching. I'm really leaning toward MMS as a start, does anyone have a comment on this?Thanks you so much for your help, ...Kathy
Re: CSPleurisy
probiotics fixed my bronchitus and sinusitus. Take 20 billion capsule, 2-3 times per day. Let us know how it works. Leo - Original Message - From: Day Sutton To: Silver Post Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:10 PM Subject: CSPleurisy I have a friend that has been diagnosed with pleurisy. Doc gave him a prescription for simvastatin anyone know a CS protocol that will help? -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
CSGMO
Here is why the Canadian govt. is getting away with GM foods. Most all = farm organizations, even organic organizations, rely heavily on = government for recognition, public awareness, trade missions, testing, = marketing, grants, subsidies, etc. To oppose the government then, is to = threaten one's own financial life. For this reason, farm organizations = have special persons designated as government liaison people - to keep = the money coming. So in Canada, when the Conservative government defeated a private = members' bill to require GMO labels on imported foods, not one organic = producers association objected. Not one. And one provincial organic = producer organization (which relies heavily on federal program support) = is headed by the campaign manager for a sitting rural MP (who voted with = his government). One Ontario Indian band was told by the Canadian = government, it would lose all their grant money if it allowed a debate = on vaccines to proceed. The band dutifully cancelled the debate. It can = be no different in the U.S. Get the picture? Leo -= ---
Re: CSDMSO
I have seen too much good to be convinced by allegations. You can look up a MSDS to see the toxic dose is nowhere near what is used. Leo - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:55 AM Subject: Re: CSDMSO Actually, I have just read further damning indictments on DMSO. Any comments anyone? dee On 8 Mar 2010, at 13:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Has anyone heard of Christopher Scipio? Just that I have just read a damning indictment of DMSO by him in the treatment of herpes and wondered if anyone has any knowledge of him--or is he just another Quackwatch crank? dee -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #297
Is there any way to make colloidal or ionic boron? Leo - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #297
Fw: CSdeoderant
For years I have used Zinc Oxide powder, mixed with enough water to make a paste and smeared on. Works great. Recommended by Hulda Clark. Leo - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:50 AM Subject: CSdeoderant I've been using around 20% Vit E oil, 80% hemp oil and a dab of spearmint oil mix lately for deodorantit seems to last for several days. Ode At 08:17 AM 2/20/2010 -0800, you wrote: Dick Why not just reduce it to get it stronger? As far as the deodorant is concerned I've never had any luck using CS for that but there is a product that deodorises without blocking the normal excretion of toxins ( very good for protecting against breast cancer). It is called Lavilin. They say it lasts at least a week and through a couple baths. I use it every time I shower but it really works, even when I work up a sweat it doesn't smell. Dave On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Neville Munn mailto:one.red...@hotmail.comone.red...@hotmail.com wrote: From this can I assume you were possibly ingesting silver nitrate for a period of time? Yes?/No?/Dunno? N. Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:06:11 -0800 From: mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.comdickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSWhich layer of skin for silver deposit? To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com So Marshall and all you other experts, let me double check with you about the high voltage arcing -- you are sure that it will produce silver nitrate? Or perhaps can it also be producing silver ions with extra oxygen? (I know, wishful thinking). I'm just thinking that I used whatever that produced for several years, and it worked great for preventing illness. Only trouble is the beginnings of argyria in my wife, and blue moons in me. I guess I'm looking for something to improve on 15-20 ppm low voltage EIS. The reason is that since I went to that a couple of months ago, I have gotten a cold, albeit a mild one, and my wife got that food poisoning after stopping EIS for one week. And we have both noticed that the low voltage EIS does not last very long when we use it for deodorant. The arced stuff, and the silver citrate I just made seem to last 24 hours easily, which makes me think they are much stronger. Isn't there any way to make a strong EIS without risking argyria? Or is that the tradeoff? How about H2O2? I haven't really tried that one yet. That will be next, I guess. Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orghttp://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK.
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #607
Where can one get papaya leaves? Is the papain stronger than in the fruit? And which Clark site has them listed. I moderate one of them, but haven't noticed any reference to them. Leo - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:00 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #607
Re: CSIons vs Particles
Not to put down CS, but have you tried zinc oxide? Dr. Hulda Clark recommended it and it works just fine. Leo - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles Mixing CS with agar will make it essentially ineffective. But it should still be effective as a topical spray on the actual mold or bacteria growing on the surface. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: CS has been reported by others to not be as effective on cultures grown on agar as in broth. JOH -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSIons vs Particles See if you can get some agar agar and set up some to grow bacteria colonies. It would be interesting to see the effect of spraying each on colonies. Marshall Robert L. Berger wrote: Hi Ya'all, More pot stirring!!! Just some more confusion to add to the sum of our knowledge. Sometimes in the morning if my underarm odor is too offensive I use some Ionic CS before the aluminum free deodorant stick. Since making the cloudy stuff ala Frank Key and the originator Bill Fernald, I keep some in the bathroom. Monday morning was a bad odor day so I tried the particulate CS, and it was of no effect. So I went to the kitchen where the ionic CS is located and used it. Walla, no more odor. So much for my limited in vitro test. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #92
My wife says beta carotiene stops her leg from twitching. When she runs out, the twitching returns. Leo - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #92 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1986 - Release Date: 03/05/09 19:32:00
Re: CSDrink Water On An Empty Stomach
I take dessicated thyroid (by ERFA) 2 30-mg tablets once a day, sublingually. Really helps. Leo ccdirectt wrote: In the Water Cure book he says to drink 2 cups of water 30 min before eating.That takes a lot of stress off the liver. --- Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDrink Water On An Empty Stomach Bunkum! Since I had to quit drinking coffee, I drink 2 cups of water in the mornings instead - 18 ounce cups. It has not slowed my arthritis or excess fatness. The rest of the diseases mentioned, I don't have, so can't speak for them. I agree it is a healthy practice, but to cure all. Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California aera...@gmail.com Hi Gayla, I 100% agree. There are so many protocols out there that claim to cure this and that, but if true, we would no longer have those illnesses still around. My thoughts on the water is that it is a good thing for constipation especially to drink first thing in the morning. Kind of like flushing out everything before putting anything else in the colon, and it really works. When combined with salt, I have found the minerals in the salt along with the water does go a long way with pain issues. Probably because some pain is more from dehydration so drinking a lot of water would help. Now will this cure arthritis? Probably not, but if one is dehydrated along with having arthritis, then it should help. Gail Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
CSSeed Money and the New Age (in addition to 'World framing disaster')
John bollyb...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I myself , who am endowed with fabulous riches, like to give what they deserve. I often say keep the change from twenty pound notes for a bag of apples Three cheers to you Mr. John! Knowingly or unconsciously you apply the metaphysical law of what is commonly called the Seed money Principle. You will, so doing, NEVER lack anything, and I am very happy to read your post, as one affirmation of this law. I am reminded of Louis Armstrong, who, after being rewarded a golden trumpet, GAVE it to a little talented black boy of his neighborhood .. because the boy had enough wits to understand the value of such a gift, and not enough dice to ever study trumpet. By the way Louis Armstrong was one of these carefree souls who were able to literally curl up in a corner on the bare floor, sleep tightly for a short time and wake up refreshed for his next performance. He was un-attached. I am reminded of the nestor-banker Rockefeller. He would shake hands with new acquaintances, colleagues, friends or people he first met .. and then they would find a brand-new dime in their hands. Rockefeller never left his office without (brand new!) dimes in his pockets. I am reminded of a millionaire-businessman in Texas. He would, after having made his yearly balance, pardon all his small debtors, knowing they were restricted to pay. His business grew and grew and only grew. We (not really rich -yet-.) live by the rule ' niet door potten en houen , maar door delen en bouwen '. It is Dutch, and it does not rhyme in English: ' not by scraping and keeping , but by sharing and constructing '. Helping were we can, wherever there is the need - without chiming cymbals. Ye may consider me a bit of a philosopher; even so I am very grateful for Mr. John's testimony. He gives a great example of how things ought to be, in this dawning of the Golden Age, on the threshold of which the brotherhood of all of us (the phenomenon known as 'the human race') is at this point in time. FaithStFrancis non-conformist Free-thinker
CSTesting only
This is a message to everyone on our data list. Please excuse the bother. If you get this message, it means our list is up to date. No need to answer. Thanks. Leo Elfie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Original Message Subject:Health Canada on Public Trial Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 09:19:16 -0600 From: Anthony Stephan astep...@telus.net To: Anthony Stephan a.step...@truehope.com CC: daniele_dio...@hc-sc.gc.ca, jean-marc_char...@hc-sc.gc.ca, sandra_jar...@hc-sc.gc.ca, joan_ko...@hc-sc.gc.ca, dennis_shel...@hc-sc.gc.ca, miles_bross...@hc-sc.gc.ca, patricia_mayn...@hc-sc.gc.ca, filo_arr...@hc-sc.gc.ca, micheline...@hc-sc.gc.ca To: All undisclosed recipients: To: Daniele Dionne Health Canada Jean-marc Charron Health Canada Sandra Jarvis Health Canada Joan Korol Health Canada Dennis Shelley Health Canada Miles Brosseau Health Canada Patricia Maynard Health Canada Deputy Ministers Office Micheline Ho Health Canada This morning marks the beginning of a major Canadian awareness program of Health Canada's abusive actions against the mentally ill. At 9:30 am (MST) the Corus radio network will be carrying the Rutherford Show. The radio talk show will emanate from CHQR 770 in Calgary. The purpose of the show is to discuss with the public the recent court case findings. * We will discuss the abusive actions of Health Canada which resulted in the death and hospitalization of a number of Canadian adults and youth. * How Health Canada agents Korol, Shelly, Dionne and others denied individuals and families their basic human rights. * How Health Canada attempted to destroy valuable research and criminalized researchers that were involved. * How Health Canada under the pretense of legislative authority demanded of Truehope a D.I.N. number knowing full well that they (Health Canada) would never issue one. * How Health Canada created a crisis for over 3000 families in Canada, setting up a 1-800 crisis line and then attempted to hide the evidence of their doings from the courts and the public. * How the CMHA - Canadian Mental Health Association warned Health Canada that their actions would lead to suicides in the public and Health Canada agents blindly ignored the CMHA warning. To date hundreds of news articles have carried this story of injustice to the Canadian public. Please feel free to visit our portal website for information and trial judgment copies. In the next 14 days our new website www.healthcanadaexposed.com http://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/ will be available to the public. Anthony Stephan Co-founder - Truehope Email: a.step...@truehope.com mailto:a.step...@truehope.com Cell: 403-634-8772 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/474 - Release Date: 10/13/2006
CSCS Tooth Abcess
Can anyone tell me of their own experience with CS and a tooth abcess? My dentist says either a canal or an extraction are going down. Leo -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSbipolar
You can do well with the product named empowerplus by truehope. Look it up on Google. Leo -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSvertigo
I was told I had some form of Ménière's disease. It cleared up after a week of taking CS+DMSO as nose drops several times a day. What a relief! Leo
Re: CSprostate cancer Susue
But daily??? Leo siriu...@aol.com wrote: You made me laugh today!! Sex is good for you! Frequent sex is better! Harper In a message dated 10/27/2005 8:52:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, shenaniganshar...@direcway.com writes: Anybody happen to know the cause of prostate cancer??? Hint, hint, it is very common in priests and men who are old and/or their wives have died. Susie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005
CSAtomic bombs and who invented them... moderator pls allow.
My good friend says, that on a documentary it was said the Japanees had an atomic program and actually detonated an atomic bomb during the war, off the coast of North Korea. When the Russians liberated that area, they took the scientists, and all equipment and shipped them off to Russia, as they did wherever they went. I questioned him on the documentary, but he could not recall the exact name, date, or channel number. However, I believe him because I have known him so well for so many years, he has a near photographic memory, and it is consistent with Russian government policy of those years. Leo Marshall Dudley wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: A Jew invented nuclear bombs. Who are you referring to? The atomic bomb was a joint effort and the invention can be credited to at least a dozen individuals working together, some experts in explosives, some metalergy, some physics, and some the new field of nuclear physics. Some may have been, but not all were jews. Are you referring to Einstein? All Einstein did was be one of a dozen or so signers of a letter to the president that begged the president to start a project based on nuclear fission (and his prestige was believed to be the main reason the president did so), but beyond that, he was not involved. He was not the first to derive E = MC^2 either, but simply the first to gain acceptance of the equality through a publication he made in 1905 ( http://www.serve.com/herrmann/einpdf.pdf ). The groundwork for the bomb was originally done by Madam Curie a French woman. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy - Pauling
Okay, list, who is right here? Did he die of prostate cancer (source pls) or pneumonia (again source pls)? Leo Dave wrote: You are. He died of pneumonia. Guess he didn't use CS. Dave Leo wrote: Yeah, he still died of cancer, as did his wife. Am I wrong here? Leo Shenanigans wrote: Linus Pauling. Very easy to do. He frequently used up to l00 grams a day, IV. Susie - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy Hi Susie, How did you learn this information? Do you think it would be possible to learn how to do Vitamin C IV therapy for yourself? Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Shenanigans shenaniganshar...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:34 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy You can make your own. Just remember that l level teaspoon of salt in a pint of water =0.9% saline, the base for many IV fluids. You can boil this in the microwave. I would put another jar,say a small babyfood jar filled with water in the microwave too, boil both l0 minutes. What ever evaporates from the jar with the salt won't matter, or you can put some from the babyfood jar over into it. When the water is mostly cool, pour a small amount, maybe l/4 cup, of the saline water into the sterilized babyfood jar. Add the amount of C you want, let it dissolve. Now you have sterile IV fluid with C. Susie - Original Message - From: hotmail angelznest angelzn...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: gmail angelznest angelzn...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:55 AM Subject: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005
Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy - Pauling
Yeah, he still died of cancer, as did his wife. Am I wrong here? Leo Shenanigans wrote: Linus Pauling. Very easy to do. He frequently used up to l00 grams a day, IV. Susie - Original Message - From: Lea Ann lsav...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy Hi Susie, How did you learn this information? Do you think it would be possible to learn how to do Vitamin C IV therapy for yourself? Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Shenanigans shenaniganshar...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:34 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy You can make your own. Just remember that l level teaspoon of salt in a pint of water =0.9% saline, the base for many IV fluids. You can boil this in the microwave. I would put another jar,say a small babyfood jar filled with water in the microwave too, boil both l0 minutes. What ever evaporates from the jar with the salt won't matter, or you can put some from the babyfood jar over into it. When the water is mostly cool, pour a small amount, maybe l/4 cup, of the saline water into the sterilized babyfood jar. Add the amount of C you want, let it dissolve. Now you have sterile IV fluid with C. Susie - Original Message - From: hotmail angelznest angelzn...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: gmail angelznest angelzn...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:55 AM Subject: CSFw: CSVitamin C Therapy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlemons and gaterade
Why not just add a pinch of potassium chloride, or magnesium chloride, this way you don't get the pollutants in Gatorade? Leo Richard Harris wrote: Hi Pete, Sorry to hear of your migraines. Have you tried not only taking CS regularly but also folding a paper towel sheet to about 4 inches wide and wetting with CS, placing it over your eyes forehead as you relax in a recliner and allow this to help make the headache disappear? I have many friends who use this and depend on it for relief. My first CS dose daily consists of 1 oz. CS 10 ppm + 2 oz. Gatorade--the rest of my CS intake is just my CS (with 4 cc H2O2 added to a gallon 10ppm CS upon completion of generating). God uses this to do many of His Miracles! Praise God! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.rharrisinc.com/ http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com/ -Original Message- From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSlemons and gaterade I am curious if there possibly is something else that you ate or drank subsequently after taking the cs/Gator Aide?! I too am a migraine sufferer, but I have had no ill effects when taking the CS/gatorade on a dailybasis. Pete No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/148 - Release Date: 10/25/2005
CSMore on Ghostwriting - check it out
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CSGatorade transport
I went to http://www.gssiweb.com/ but couldn't find the info. Could you be more specific? Leo -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFDA?
So EBay won't stick up for consumers? Heck, why not start our own EBay? There are enough goods and services to justify such a site. Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSph?
I must measured my kitchen tap water with a ph strip and it read about 6.8 Then I measured some dw that was about 8-16 hrs old and it read about 5.6 Why would that be?? What is the best way to raise the ph before drinking it? Leo
CSph?
Thanks for the help and ideas so far. Well, I measured my filtered tap water just before it entered into my home distiller - it was about 7. The distilled water dripping out of the charcoal filter on the draining (outgoing) side was about 6 - one full point lower than the stuff going in! Does anyone know which mineral is most responsible for raising the ph - or lowering it as it is distilled out of the water and left as residue at the bottom of the boiling chamber? I repaired to my health food store shortly after my last post and bought some mineral solution that was supposed to raise the ph of distilled water. Six time I added 10 drops and measured each time. The ph paper changed a bit but not much. The water tasted odd. After I drank the water, it left me with a strange, but full feeling, not unpleasant. I sensed it was good for me and I will experiment a bit. I have been drinking dw for 30 years, and I may be suffering from mineral depletion and low ph because of long term use of this stuff. I tested my CS and it was the same ph as dw. But the calcium hydroxide solution (limewater) was sky high. Would it be advisable to raise the ph of our dw CS to make it more effective - any thoughts? Leo
CSWow
This site http://www.electromed2003.com/index.cfm describes a conference on electromedicine sponsored by the USAF! Who is going? Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSInstestinal Infection??
Wow, would I be interested in Jason's result! So many are plagued with this, and this list is a unique source for me. Something about it. Direct, plain English, etc. I plead with the moderator to allow Jason's predicament to be followed for a bit, especially since he has apparently exhausted so many avenues as I have Leo
CSOdiferous DMSO?
I hear there is a sources for DMSO that has almost no odor upon injestion. Christian Bros. comes to mind. Anyone else? Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWhere are we from
Leo Regehr Edmonton, AB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[Fwd: Governor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill - State Now Wide Open.]
I am forwarding this to a list of people in my address book that may be interested in this. Leo ---BeginMessage--- Governor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill - State Now Wide Open. Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen September 24, 2002 Today, September 24, 2002, is a very important date in Health Freedom History. For today, California Governor Gray Davis signed into law the most important Health Freedom bill in world history - California SB 577. The paragraph below contains PART of the language in the bill. For Californians, section (c), below makes health care wide open. Naturopaths, Homeopaths, Nutritionists, etc., are now free to offer services, without harassment. To read the whole bill go to http://www.californiahealthfreedom.org/documents/our_bill.asp (c) The Legislature intends, by enactment of this act, to allow access by California residents to complementary and alternative health care practitioners who are not providing services that require medical training and credentials. The Legislature further finds that these nonmedical complementary and alternative services do not pose a known risk to the health and safety of California residents, and that restricting access to those services due to technical violations of the Medical Practice Act is not warranted. California, the fifth largest stand alone economy in the world, has for some time led the nation in percentage (estimated at 75%) of health care dollars spent on Alternative Medicine. Now, that percentage is expected to increase. It's OVER for standard Allopathic care in North America. Tim Bolen Consumer Advocate This Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter is about the battle between Health and Medicine on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an op/ed writer with extensive knowledge of the activities of a subversive organization calling itself the quackbusters, and that organization's attempts to suppress, and discredit, any, and all health modalities that compete with the allopathic (MD) paradigm for consumer health dollars. The focus of the newsletter is on the ongoing activities, battles, politics, and the victories won by members of the Health Freedom Movement against the quackbusters It details who the quackbusters are, what they are, where they are operating, when they appear, and how they operate - and how easy it is to beat them... For background information on the Battle between Health and Medicine go to: http://www.savedrclark.net/by_whom2.htm. A copy of THIS newsletter, and older ones, are viewable at the website http://www.quackpotwatch.org/default.htm To unsubscribe - send a message to the return e-mail address listed above. ---End Message---
CSPotassium Iodide - How to encapsulate your own
Potassium Iodide in granular form Fisher Scientific, is quite inexpensive and can be ordered in 500 gm jars for about $12.00. It can be capsulated at home using a home encapsulator (also cheap) which can be purchased from some health food stores, otherwise from S.L. Anderson in CA 1(530)589-3062. Don't forget to order the 'tamper' with the encapsulator. The Potassium Iodide weighs 25.76 gm per tablespoon assuming it is not too finely ground. Divide by 12 and now you have a weight of about 2 gm per 1/4 tsp or one '00' capsule. The dosage seems to be 100 mg per tablet. One capsule of the stuff will weigh 2 gm or 2,000 mg, that is really 20 capsules in one. So, to every tsp of potassium iodide, add 19 tsp of corn starch and mix thoroughly in a ziplock bag. When mixed, it can be encapsulated, and every capsule will contain +/- 100 mg potassium iodide. Sincerely, Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDMSO in Canada
Pure DMSO USP grade can be obtained from Fisher Scientific 1-800-234-7437. Cost is $61.38 Cdn per litre. That breaks down to $7.44 for 4 oz. Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[Fwd: [healthfraud] More Bad News for Colloidal Silver]
Anyone care to comment? Leo ---BeginMessage--- From FDAnews Daily Bulletin for February 27, 2002: FTC CRACKS DOWN ON BOGUS BIOHAZARD TESTS, TREATMENTS The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has settled enforcement actions against the marketer of a home test kit for anthrax and the purveyor of a colloidal silver product purported to treat anthrax. These companies used inaccurate and unfounded claims to sell peace of mind, J. Howard Beales, director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection, said Feb. 27. They tried to cash in on consumer anxiety about bioterrorism. The FTC enforcement actions are part of a larger probe of internet-based companies marketing bogus products that take advantage of consumers who have grown fearful of bioterrorism. Since mid-November, the FTC has sent 121 warning letters to marketers of bioterrorism-related products discovered during a coordinated surf of the internet by the FTC, the FDA and more than 30 state attorneys general. Beales said that 50 of the 121 warning letters involved products related to the detection or treatment of anthrax. In one action, Vital Living Products and its president, Donald Podrebarac, entered into an agreement to settle charges that they deceptively advertised a do-it-yourself method to detect anthrax bacteria and spores in the air, water and on surfaces. Beales called the claims pure bunk. In the other action, Kris Pletschke, operator of the web site rawhealth.net, signed a consent agreement with the FTC that prohibits him from making deceptive and misleading therapeutic claims for colloidal silver or any other health-related products. Beales said the FTC ordered Pletschke to offer full refunds to all consumers who purchased colloidal silver. - * Eric S. Hoy, Ph.D., SI(ASCP) * Clinical Associate Professor * Department of Medical Laboratory Sciences * The University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas * Email: eric@utsouthwestern.edu -- The opinions expressed here are mine alone, do not reflect the opinions of any employer, cost you nothing, and are probably worth what you paid for them. **I may have been born at night, but it wasn't LAST night!** ---End Message---
Re: CSChecking..JUst Ignore..
How does one do an ozone enema? Just ozonate water, heat it to body temperature and do the enema? Leo James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Easier and safer to get the ozone in the blood with an ozone enema. Widely used by AIDS sufferers world-wide with gov. approval and in this country without approval. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Bob Bartell [mailto:bobbart...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: 'Rosemary Bailes' Subject:RE: CSChecking..JUst Ignore.. Hi Douglas, Its late, I'm tired, and not up to digging out the references, but as I recall a doctor in Texas and another in Stuttgart, Germany were quite successful in treating aids/HIV by repeated treatments that consisted of removing a pint of blood, ozonating the blood until it turned bright red (oxygenation)and infusing it back into the body. As for CS ... yes, HIV is a virus and is readily exterminated in vitro ... in Petri dishes in the lab, and in my humble opinion, should work well in vivo inside the body. If I had it, I'd probably slowly (Herx effect) work my way up to consuming a quart a day of 10ppm CS (or stronger) until the doctor informed me that I tested negative. Then I would continue for another month, just to be sure. Also check out electrotherapy techniques that are advocated on the Royal Rife website ... (Use your search engine)! Then there is Dr. Hulda Regehr Clark, Ph.D., N.D. who has cured (in six weeks) and documents 75 case histories in her book, The Cure for HIV and AIDS which you can order from Amazon.com. Hope this helps Namaste: Bob Bartell -Original Message- From: Douglas De La Roca [mailto:ddelar...@nationalpeo.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChecking..JUst Ignore.. Hello ! I have a question and not sure who can help...but anybody giving any information will be of great help. I been researching CS for a quiet a while now... My question is How effective is CS with HIV+ if there a simple treatment or prove that it even works? Please any comments on this email at stalin2...@aol.com Thanks so much for any help... i am 24 year old male...trying to understand this medecine. thanks DD - Original Message - From: Grant g...@island.net To: Silver - List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:32 PM Subject: CSChecking..JUst Ignore.. Just checking to see if this goes through.. Strange no msgs tonight.. gm.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Lorenzo's Oil/Olive oil
Self Health Resource Center in CA has olive oil from Italy. Phone them up and talk to them about it. Leo Acmeair wrote: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:09 PM To: i...@minervausa.com Subject: olive oil / canola oil I was informed that there are no restrictions on olive oil for export out of Italy, and that the oil can be diluted up to 60 % with canola oil. This would cause me, and many others, health problems. Your label does indicate oil from Greece, Italy, Tunisia, and Spain is used in your Montolivo brand. Is there any canola oil in this brand? Thank you, x Dear xxx By Italian Law it is compulsory to use 100% Extra Virgin Olive Oil when it is declared Extra Virgin, so no canola is added in our oil. We have a strict legislation on this issue. Your doubt comes from the fact that in the USA it is not forbidden for product produced in the states to add what they wish to the oil. It is always nice to here from our customers. Please if I can be of further assistance do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, Kimberly Spadora Customer Service Manager - Original Message - From: jon_nel...@3com.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: CSOT: Lorenzo's Oil/Olive oil There has been some discussion of oils and olive oil. It is important to realize that there is no legal definiton of the term 'extra virgin olive oil or olive oil in the United States, nor is there any strict regulation over the industry. I don't recall all the details, perhaps someone can fill them in or post a web site, but the bottom line is that the reason olive oil is so cheap in this country is because it is not olive oil. Harvesting and processing costs for making olive oil can be anywhere from $35 to $90 a gallon and this does not include the many other costs associated with growing the olives. Italian olive oil is not cheap to produce either. Oil for domestic consumption in Italy is strictly regulated, but oil for export is another story and much of it is not really from Italy and is not really olive oil. Olive oil from the US can be diluted up to 60% with canoloa oil and it is very difficult to detect. Don't assume when you are buying that $5.00 quart bottle of olive oil that it is olive oil you are getting. The rapeseed extract in Lorenzo's Oil is erucic acid. Canola oil is from rapeseed developed to be very low in erucic acid which is why the more technical name for canola oil is low erucic acid rapeseed oil. However, I still think canola oil is evil. Olive oil, nut oils, and butter are the lipids of choice in our household. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO
Just specify USP grade from Fisher Scientific or other reputable chemical supplier. Leo Reid Harvey wrote: CS Enthusiasts, Can someone please tell me which is a good brand of DMSO and the source? For example, could this be found around Atlanta or should it be mail ordered? Thanks, Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET.
Does anyone have copies of their communications with Barrett still on their drives? If so, please let me know. Leo James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: A couple of years ago I tried to have a friendly dialogue with him re: CS. Not possible. I presumed thereafter a high probability that he is a paid disinformation agent. I understand that Dr. Hulda Clark et al are suing him for all of the false statements that he has published about her. I hope they nail him. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Catherine Creel [mailto:ccr...@maine.rr.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSonline discussion with Barrett on Friday, Jan. 25, at 1 p.m. ET. James said: He is a dip. I agree, James, but I think you're being too kind :-) I wish we had free access to him with questions. Unfortunately, questions are being filtered. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHealth Expo in Toronto
We sell CS generators and never have been hassled. But we don't make claims either. Leo DJG wrote: I'm going in March. Does anyone know if there will be anything interesting related to CS, or did the Canadian govt. pretty much shut down the CS industry? I went last year and enjoyed it.
Re: CSHealth Expo in Toronto
We sell CS generators in Canada and never have been hassled. But we don't make claims either. Leo DJG wrote: I'm going in March. Does anyone know if there will be anything interesting related to CS, or did the Canadian govt. pretty much shut down the CS industry? I went last year and enjoyed it.
Re: CSMagnesium oxide
Try Self Health Resource Ctre in California or in Canada for small quantities, either in powder or capsules. Fisher Scientific for larger quantities of powder. Just do a google search and lots of vendors will come up. Leo charles shutford wrote: I wish to order magnesium oxide, any one got a web site suggestion? for a reputable source? thanks Rusty - Original Message - From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telusplanet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: Re: CSMagnesium oxide I have plenty of magnisium oxide powder on hand. Do I mix it in water for an enema, and if so, in what proportion? Leo Duncan Crow wrote: | First Tracy, I suspect Homozon is magnesium oxide, just check the label. Homozon is a type of magnesium peroxide, specially prepared to donate singlet oxygen. The preparation has not been improved on on over a century. You won't get the oxygen-donating effect using magnesium oxide; in fact you won't get much of a magnesium-donating effect either; in fact the cleansing action results because magnesium in this form is not well absorbed. | | Magnesium oxide acts a little like the foaming cleansers you spray onto a | carpet, which act by lifting some of the dirt to the surface, making it | easier to remove. It takes some time for the mag ox to gradually break up | your impacted 'muck' which is why there is a lengthy protocol. ...| Everyone I know who has completed the mag ox protocol has had good, and | sometimes amazing, results. If you remain unconvinced, but still curious, | look at the Bernard Jensen book, 'Iridology: Vol 2'. The pictures may just | change your mind. The effect above using mag oxide will be minimal, VERY minimal. Duncan (ozone therapist) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnesium oxide
Thank you. Your point is right on. I am thinking of doing a 2% solution and adjusting from there. I want to dislodge material that may be stuck to the colon wall. Leo. Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear Leo, One would be well-served to be VERY CAREFUL when dealing with 35% or 50% H202. This substance is capable of inflicting very serious tissue burns. If you are not SURE of the reduction co-efficient from your mixing process you may run the risk of producing a powder capable of generating some very compromising resultsnot the least of which could be tissue-burning of epithelial tissue..if ingested.. H202 at 35% and over concentration is serious stuff. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Leo Regehr wrote: That is neat. Thanks. Leo - Kevin Nolan wrote: Leo - some while ago I was told there is a cheap do-it-yourself method for making MgO2 (magnesium peroxide) that some people actually use. As I recall, simply mix MgO (magnesium oxide) powder with about an equal quantity of 50% (or proportionately more 35% if you can't get 50%) H2O2. Stir into a slurry, and leave to dry, preferably in the sun. There will be a reaction that converts a fair portion to the peroxide. Once dry, break it up and place into capsules or simply keep in a tight jar. regards, Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telusplanet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: CSMagnesium oxide I have plenty of magnisium oxide powder on hand. Do I mix it in water for an enema, and if so, in what proportion? Leo Duncan Crow wrote: | First Tracy, I suspect Homozon is magnesium oxide, just check the label. Homozon is a type of magnesium peroxide, specially prepared to donate singlet oxygen. The preparation has not been improved on on over a century. You won't get the oxygen-donating effect using magnesium oxide; in fact you won't get much of a magnesium-donating effect either; in fact the cleansing action results because magnesium in this form is not well absorbed. | | Magnesium oxide acts a little like the foaming cleansers you spray onto a | carpet, which act by lifting some of the dirt to the surface, making it | easier to remove. It takes some time for the mag ox to gradually break up | your impacted 'muck' which is why there is a lengthy protocol. ...| Everyone I know who has completed the mag ox protocol has had good, and | sometimes amazing, results. If you remain unconvinced, but still curious, | look at the Bernard Jensen book, 'Iridology: Vol 2'. The pictures may just | change your mind. The effect above using mag oxide will be minimal, VERY minimal. Duncan (ozone therapist) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnesium oxide
I have plenty of magnisium oxide powder on hand. Do I mix it in water for an enema, and if so, in what proportion? Leo Duncan Crow wrote: | First Tracy, I suspect Homozon is magnesium oxide, just check the label. Homozon is a type of magnesium peroxide, specially prepared to donate singlet oxygen. The preparation has not been improved on on over a century. You won't get the oxygen-donating effect using magnesium oxide; in fact you won't get much of a magnesium-donating effect either; in fact the cleansing action results because magnesium in this form is not well absorbed. | | Magnesium oxide acts a little like the foaming cleansers you spray onto a | carpet, which act by lifting some of the dirt to the surface, making it | easier to remove. It takes some time for the mag ox to gradually break up | your impacted 'muck' which is why there is a lengthy protocol. ...| Everyone I know who has completed the mag ox protocol has had good, and | sometimes amazing, results. If you remain unconvinced, but still curious, | look at the Bernard Jensen book, 'Iridology: Vol 2'. The pictures may just | change your mind. The effect above using mag oxide will be minimal, VERY minimal. Duncan (ozone therapist) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColon
by irrigator I take it you mean enema. I have the eqt. and will try it. Leo rob-bac wrote: Dear Leo, I would strongly recommend you give it a try. Take one glass (250ml) of your home made CS orally on the first day and reduce the dosage in the following days. And if you have a colon irrigator use the CS there as well but warm it to about 30 degrees C (body temp.) first. CS will not harm you in any way, so the worst that can happen with this treatment is that it does not work. You know already what then the alternative is. I wish you good luck. RB - Original Message - From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telusplanet.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: CSColon Anyone hear whether CS can clear up infection in the sphygmoid region of the colon? Surgery is a last resort. Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnesium oxide
Wouldn't peroxide produce a foaming effect like MgOx? Leo Mike Fuller wrote: Hi Marshalee, Barnbert, Tracy, James et al, First Tracy, I suspect Homozon is magnesium oxide, just check the label. James, I get my mag ox from a laboratory supply company, here in Western Australia. If you are in the USA you should find it easily enough. I am aware of two versions, light and not-so-light. The light, which is cheaper, doesn't release quite as much oxygen but both do a similar cleansing job. Get USP grade or equivalent. Maeshalee and Baernbert, it is relatively easy to clean parts of the colon, it is another matter concerning the caecum (known as the cesspool of the GI tract) and the small intestine. Consider the lining of the small intestines as being like a shag-pile carpet. Whenever some substance causes a problem in this area, such as incomplete digestion due to poor food combining, the system treats the substance as foreign and produces mucous as a protective mechanism. This mucous/food remains in the area, ready to be eliminated when the system gets an opportune moment. Unfortunately, with our poor dietary habits of constant and excessive eating, and improper food combining, we simply don't give our system a chance to do this basic clearing. These insults on the intestinal lining simply pile on top of each other with the consequence of impacting the 'muck' deeper into the 'carpet'. They harden over time and prove to be a real barrier to nutrient assimilation. Magnesium oxide acts a little like the foaming cleansers you spray onto a carpet, which act by lifting some of the dirt to the surface, making it easier to remove. It takes some time for the mag ox to gradually break up your impacted 'muck' which is why there is a lengthy protocol. In addition it would be beneficial to lessen the burdon on your intestines by practicing good food combining, eating less, and occasional fasting (know what you're doing before trying the fasting!). Heaps of water is also essential. Everyone I know who has completed the mag ox protocol has had good, and sometimes amazing, results. If you remain unconvinced, but still curious, look at the Bernard Jensen book, 'Iridology: Vol 2'. The pictures may just change your mind. Regards, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColon
Anyone hear whether CS can clear up infection in the sphygmoid region of the colon? Surgery is a last resort. Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSglutathione
Our price for 200 gm Glutathione in a zip lock back is 55 cents/gm, calculated in US dollars. But we dont' ship to US. This is just for information. We don't advertise. Leo sheba wrote: Kevin Nolan wrote: Hard to beat this site on price: http://www.jomarlabs.com/glutath.asp. Can't say whether the stuff is as effective as Immunocal. Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Dave Darrin ddar...@centurytel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: CS(no subject) Larry you might try Beyond a century inc. Figuring the number of tablets and the potency their prices are about one half that of Hsvitimins even with their big sale. That is on the things I use anyway. http://www.beyond-a-century.com That's where I get most of my stuff and they send a catalog with each order that has a paragraph on the use and dosage of each product. Helps you decide if your looking for something different without days of searching (I have no connection with them either) Dave Thanks to all for the info. and suggestions regarding CFS. I'll pass it on and provide the CS if she chooses. L-Glutathione and N-Acetyl Cysteine can be bought at what I'll bet is as good a price as you'll find during the 3 for 1 sale going on now,from HealthSmart www.hsvitamins.com / or 1- 800-645-1030 for catalog. [I have no connection with them ] If anyone can find better prices on supplements I'd like to know. Speaking of which..I haven't heard much from Dr Jon lately.. guess his mail order bride has his attention [;-)] I can relate to that !! larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA -- -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com My son's doctor recommended Recancostat.
Re: CSClove Oil?
According to Dr. Hulda Clark, suppliments of digestive enzymes will also enable the white blood cells to remove asbestos. See her book Cure for all Advanced Cancers. Leo Maxine Wilton wrote: A yr and half, I helped take care of a lady abt 68 yrs old who had worked in Tacoma in shipyards during war where there was asbestes. She got it in her body and it took a long time but it got to her lungs and the fibers made hles in linning and she suffered abt 6 months after Dr discovered what was wrong and ebnded up haveing to have lungs drained three and more time a day and finially died of too much stress to her heart and breathing bad etc. I didn't know there was anyhting at all to stop this or disolve those fibers etc. She worked in it before they found out it was bad etc. Sad about her suffering so. Maxine -Original Message- From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telusplanet.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: CSClove Oil? Since credible evidence exists that clove oil will remove asbestos fibres, it would be interesting to here if anyone nebulized the stuff and inhaled it for asbestos poisoning. Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSClove Oil?
Since credible evidence exists that clove oil will remove asbestos fibres, it would be interesting to here if anyone nebulized the stuff and inhaled it for asbestos poisoning. Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
There are other choices, namely, to ignore it and let it pass as a minor aggravation, or to complain to the moderator. Leo Theodore Corbett wrote: You have two choices, use the delete function or unsubscribe!! --- dannymetalmas...@aol.com wrote: Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiltering CS
When I use 4-9v batteries with rods 1-1/2 apart, I immediately get rust coloured cloudy material coming off the negative wire and rising to the surface. When I go to 3 batteries, it stops, and I see no cloud at all, not even a milky white. I use distilled water with a starter batch of CS in it. So what is the rust coloured material. Is the process going too fast? Thanks for your help. This list is wonderful. Leo Kent and Carol wrote: I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. After I have finished brewing my CS I strain it using a coffee filter. The container I pour it into has a chip in the glass (this is the measuring cup) and I have noticed a rust coloration forming in the uneven surface of the chip. I am also getting this rust coloration on an eye dropper I use to snort CS with when I get a sinus infection. This is the same rust color that my used coffee filter/strainer gets if I leave laying out for a day or so. I don't know what is causing this but it has something to do with the CS. -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFiltering CS Talking about filtering CS, I bought the unbleached coffee filters, the Melitta brand. When I used them to filter my CS, the CS got darker yellow in color. This happened several times so I stopped using those coffee filters as I then figured that the filters are not really unbleached but maybe colored brown to look unbleached and perhaps the coloring is leaching into the CS. It was then suggested by the manufacturer of my CS generator that I could use white cotton handkerchiefs to filter the CS. So now I am using cotton hankies. However, I am noticing that whenever I rinse out the hankies and hang them to dry, I notice a rust colored stain develops on the part that was in contact with the CS. Now I am wondering where this rust color is originating from. The manufacturer has no explanation for the rust color and says that the silver strips being used for the electrodes are 99.9 silver. Any way of testing the electrodes for purity? Also, I am beginning to wonder if the rust is coming from the metal covers that I am using for the quart size mason jars that I use to make and store the CS. Any ideas or comments on this subject is appreciated. Thanks, Josephine . Terry replies: Leo, no filter that I have ever heard of can filter out particles of anything as small as CS (unless your CS is dark brown). . __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiltering CS
You can buy small containers at drug stores that produce a fine mist by pushing down on the top. I would try that for snorting. Leo Kent and Carol wrote: I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. After I have finished brewing my CS I strain it using a coffee filter. The container I pour it into has a chip in the glass (this is the measuring cup) and I have noticed a rust coloration forming in the uneven surface of the chip. I am also getting this rust coloration on an eye dropper I use to snort CS with when I get a sinus infection. This is the same rust color that my used coffee filter/strainer gets if I leave laying out for a day or so. I don't know what is causing this but it has something to do with the CS. -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFiltering CS Talking about filtering CS, I bought the unbleached coffee filters, the Melitta brand. When I used them to filter my CS, the CS got darker yellow in color. This happened several times so I stopped using those coffee filters as I then figured that the filters are not really unbleached but maybe colored brown to look unbleached and perhaps the coloring is leaching into the CS. It was then suggested by the manufacturer of my CS generator that I could use white cotton handkerchiefs to filter the CS. So now I am using cotton hankies. However, I am noticing that whenever I rinse out the hankies and hang them to dry, I notice a rust colored stain develops on the part that was in contact with the CS. Now I am wondering where this rust color is originating from. The manufacturer has no explanation for the rust color and says that the silver strips being used for the electrodes are 99.9 silver. Any way of testing the electrodes for purity? Also, I am beginning to wonder if the rust is coming from the metal covers that I am using for the quart size mason jars that I use to make and store the CS. Any ideas or comments on this subject is appreciated. Thanks, Josephine . Terry replies: Leo, no filter that I have ever heard of can filter out particles of anything as small as CS (unless your CS is dark brown). . __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Huntington's disease
Try these three sites http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HuldaClarkEnthusiasts/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrClark/ http://drclark.net/ If you need more help, contact me off list. Leo Jerry Karl wrote: I have a friend who has Huntington's Disease. Does anyone know of alternative therapies to help alleviate or cure the symptoms ??? He was a brilliant young man who is now just a shadow of who he was. Please help !! Thank you, Jerry Karl --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.311 / Virus Database: 172 - Release Date: 12/27/2001 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiltering CS
Nope, those rods are good stuff. Leo Josephine wrote: maybe the rust colored material is really rust and maybe the silver rods are part silver and part iron? Josephine So what is the rust coloured material. Is the process going too fast? Thanks for your help. This list is wonderful. Leo Kent and Carol wrote: I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiltering CS
So what are the coffeee filters to strain out? Leo Terry Chamberlin wrote: Leo asked: If you strain your stuff with coffee filters, does that mean you are straining out excessive CS out of your solution? Terry replies: Leo, no filter that I have ever heard of can filter out particles of anything as small as CS (unless your CS is dark brown). I sell a water filter that will filter out anything down to .193 microns, which includes all bacteria and probably all viruses. Silver particles even in low-voltage, yellow CS will be .05 microns and smaller, about 1/40th the size that my water filter will catch, about 1/1000th the size that a coffee filter will catch. __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: nebulizers
Who is marketing it, is it on a website? Leo Ed Kasper wrote: I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation under $20 (new). Wonder if this would work for C-S ed kasper, still in santa cruz, ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: nebulizers: Opps!
That is not a nebulizer, it is a mist. I was corrected on this point earlier. Leo Ed Kasper wrote: Opps . I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation there suggested retail price is $19.95. Wonder if this would work for C-S . From Starwest.1-800--800-4372 web site but does not have pictures. web http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/default.asp NOTE: I read the wrong description !!! item number #266350 is for $19.95 its a small unit with a simple heating element.up to 500 sq ft item number 266350 retails $48.89 (wholesale $29.95) is for the description above plus says that the oil vapor created by the glass nebulizer stays suspended in the air for longer periods of time and cover 900 sq ft. The fine print reads that it should not be used with heavy oils and suggests dilution with alcohol or water. compare this to an earlier Post by Dave ... Drugstore.com sells the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. I have purchased 4 of these for friends that do not have internet access. They can be purchased without prescription, and they work very well. One person cleared up his pneumonia, my sister is presently using one for her lung cancer and in her last report the tumor had reduced in size. The Omron Nebulizer does not require oxygen or external compressor. It has a built in air pump, runs on 115 volts, and comes with all accessories required to make a very fine mist. Also included is a video tape showing how to use it and clean it. Dave I couldn't fine the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. at drugstore.com (I sent them email) but came across a ultraviolet mist humidifier for $79.95 ..] Only Slant/Fin's Exclusive Ultraviolet Germicidal Technology Can Deliver 99.999% Germ-Free Warm Mist $79.99 www.drugstore.com unit at http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40613catid=25429trx=GFI-0-; trxp1=25429trxp2=40613trxp3=1btrx=BUY-GFI-0- Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: nebulizers: Opps!
That is not a nebulizer, it is a mist. I was corrected on this point earlier. Ed Kasper wrote: Opps . I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation there suggested retail price is $19.95. Wonder if this would work for C-S . From Starwest.1-800--800-4372 web site but does not have pictures. web http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/default.asp NOTE: I read the wrong description !!! item number #266350 is for $19.95 its a small unit with a simple heating element.up to 500 sq ft item number 266350 retails $48.89 (wholesale $29.95) is for the description above plus says that the oil vapor created by the glass nebulizer stays suspended in the air for longer periods of time and cover 900 sq ft. The fine print reads that it should not be used with heavy oils and suggests dilution with alcohol or water. compare this to an earlier Post by Dave ... Drugstore.com sells the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. I have purchased 4 of these for friends that do not have internet access. They can be purchased without prescription, and they work very well. One person cleared up his pneumonia, my sister is presently using one for her lung cancer and in her last report the tumor had reduced in size. The Omron Nebulizer does not require oxygen or external compressor. It has a built in air pump, runs on 115 volts, and comes with all accessories required to make a very fine mist. Also included is a video tape showing how to use it and clean it. Dave I couldn't fine the Omron Nebulizer for $54.95. at drugstore.com (I sent them email) but came across a ultraviolet mist humidifier for $79.95 ..] Only Slant/Fin's Exclusive Ultraviolet Germicidal Technology Can Deliver 99.999% Germ-Free Warm Mist $79.99 www.drugstore.com unit at http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40613catid=25429trx=GFI-0-; trxp1=25429trxp2=40613trxp3=1btrx=BUY-GFI-0- Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS brewing
It is posts like this, directed at beginners, that are so helpful to me. Thanks Terry. I know this works for you, and not everyone will make their stuff the way you do. That is okay with me. Terry, could you email me instructions for making it with low voltage? What do you mean by hooking up 110-120 VDC? Leo Terry Chamberlin wrote: Russ, Take a 1-gallon pickle jar (empty). Pour in 3 quarts of distilled water. Now pour in 1 quart of Colloidal Silver (gotten from wherever you can, including buying, borrowing or making it yourself by whatever method you already know - I can email you instructions for making it with low-voltage). Hang two silver wires down into the jar, on opposite sides of the jar (mine are 9 long). Hook up 110-120 VDC to the silver wires. Let brew for 60 minutes. Wipe off the wires, strain the CS (I use coffee filters). Use one quart of this CS as starter for the next batch. Savvy? __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS brewing
If you strain your stuff with coffee filters, does that mean you are straining out excessive CS out of your solution? Leo Terry Chamberlin wrote: Russ, Take a 1-gallon pickle jar (empty). Pour in 3 quarts of distilled water. Now pour in 1 quart of Colloidal Silver (gotten from wherever you can, including buying, borrowing or making it yourself by whatever method you already know - I can email you instructions for making it with low-voltage). Hang two silver wires down into the jar, on opposite sides of the jar (mine are 9 long). Hook up 110-120 VDC to the silver wires. Let brew for 60 minutes. Wipe off the wires, strain the CS (I use coffee filters). Use one quart of this CS as starter for the next batch. Savvy? __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar CS making
The scientific method does not exist in reality, that is to say, in a pure sense, as contemplated in your post below. All we have in the real world are imperfect attempts at it. If it were more transparent to the public (as is our court system) we would all acknowledge this fact. Leo Kevin Nolan wrote: ..Now if the moon phase can influence such an observeable phenomenom as floatation of logs, I don't think it too much of a stretch to consider its influence on the formation of colloids, whose stability is dependant on the ability of the water to support the particles. Regards, Mike Fuller But it is a huge stretch of the imagination. A log at near neutral bouyancy need only swell by a few percent (or alternately, expell a few percent moisture) to successfully float down a river. Silver colloid particles are 10 times the density of water, and remain suspended by brownian motion - a temperature dependent thermal effect, augmented by the zeta potential and any actual excess charge present. The two phenomena are chalk and cheese. ..The canine and the feline families manifest uncanny abilities which have great survival values in their respective vibrational planes but are rare ocurrences amongst humans in our 35th - 40th Octave world for seeing and hearingHearing is sensory dissociation without concentrationThe whole human body is a finely tuned electomagnetic sense organ in resonance, It is a cohesive manifestation of vibrationasl states of electromagnetism : light, sound and geometryWith regards, Lew Would like to know just what a vibrational plane is, what our 35th - 40th Octave world actually means (for instance - just what are the frequencies, and what is vibrating?), and how a human body can be fully or even partly described as a cohesive manifestation of vibrational states of electromagnetism (for starters, about 99.97% of our mass is of nuclear origin, which is not electromagnetic). I'm new to the list and have been reading with interest speculation regarding CS production. Japanese artist/photographer Masaru Emoto's book The Message from Water suggests that human vibrational energy, thoughts, words, and ideas affect the molecular structure of water. http://www.adhikara.com/water.html Regards, Donna Indeed he suggests it, and purports to prove it with photos. But has it been consistently reproduced by others - thus establishing it as a principle of nature? Put it this way; how many list members are going to slap a sticker on the side of their bottle of CS, with a message like I love you, and really expect that to make some positive difference? Or, following the gist of the recent reintroduction of Michael Theroux's article on lunar influence on CS production, should we be assiduously consulting Solunar charts before brewing CS? Hugging trees may indeed make the hugger feel better, but don't discount good old psychological factors before putting it down to exchange of positive and negative energies, for instance. Many concerned scientists think we are entering a new dark age, where magic and mysticism are reclaiming the ground won so hard by scientific progress over the last three centuries or so. To be sure, establishment science doesn't have all the answers, and there is a tendency to ignore phenomena that doesn't fit the mould. However the scientific method holds a rigour completely unmatched by mysticism whose pseudoscientific terminology merely gives the impression of really knowing. The unfortunate practice of carelessly or craftily blending together proven fact and speculation/folklore with the intent of making it look like a consistent whole is to be avoided like the plague. Hey, is there anyone else on this list who thinks like I do - if there is then have some balls and add your voice please! regards, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au
CSThe value of one experiment
Granted, the experiment by itself may be statistically insignificant, but that does not mean the experiment itself is insignificant. That one experiment can itself give rise to a reasonable belief or suspicion (and I stress the word, reasonable). And let's remember that there is no such thing as a perfect experiment or series of experiments that have all the bases covered to every one's satisfaction. Not to accuse any member of this list, but does anyone remember the movie Longitude? This guy designed a clock that was accurate enough to win an award, but the British Admiralty said the clock had insufficient tests. When the designer met those tests, the Admiralty added a few more criteria, and so on. Finally, the British parliament had to overrule its own Admiralty and award the designer his prize before he died. Let's honour interesting and suggestive data, however scant it may be. That way we stay on the leading edge. Leo S J Young wrote: Marshall said it well, and is what I had in mind but didn't communicate it very well. The Borderlands article is interesting, but is only one data point. What is needed are more carefully conducted experiments, as Marshall indicates, to determine that the phenomena is repeatable, and isolating the variation to just one cause such as lunar position. Until that is done, the one experiment is statistically insignificant. Has anyone generated say 100 batches of CS all at once (same starting and ending time), with as close to the same conditions as possible in a laboratory, and determined the statistical variance of the batches with each other? If we can't generate nearly identical batches given the nearly identical conditions (same H2O, volume, electrode purity and wetted area, current, temperature, ambient atmosphere, brew time, electromagnetic and accoustic environment, (same mental attitude about each batch being brewed???), etc.), then we must first understand why there is so much variation before we can start introducing other variables such as moon gravity or whatever. One would hope and expect that such an uncomplicated procedure (e.g. simple electrolysis) could produce highly repeatable results. Then one could feel confident in doing experiments to determine what outside influences may affect properties of the brew. Sadly, the large scale laboratory tests with CS likely will never be done because those who could invest the substantial funds required would not be able to get a return from their expenditure. We may not now know how to make the best CS or ionic silver or mix of both yet, and we may never know this, but at least we can feel confident that what we do make from pure water and silver only has a high probability of improving our quality of life. It is reassuring to see the anecdotal evidence of benefits keep piling up from more and more people, and none of us are turning blue-gray! --Steve - Original Message - See www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/lunar.htm SNIP However although there does seem to be evidence that the moon does have an effect if we can believe that these experiments were really run, and resulted in these reported results, additional testing needs to be done to confirm it. First it needs to be duplicated by others, and it needs to be done with double blind testing. It really needs to be done again by someone who doesn't believe in the phenomena, since it is just as likely that the expectations of the experimenter caused the difference as the planets. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBlack coating
My rods are coating with black gunk within minutes of insertion. Volts are 20DC, rods are 3-4 apart. I realize this is an elementary question, but my name is Watson, not Sherlock. Any suggestion? Leo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: argyria
Is there an instrument that measures the ppm? If so, who sells it, and how much is the cost? Leo Reid Harvey wrote: Hilary, Sorry, but I've been out of the country the past week, so I'm not sure how this question has been addressed. But it seems to me that 20 to 30 ppm is awfully low, for the maker to see the necessity of adding silver protein. And I think the fact is that whomever makes the more concentrated CS, which includes the protein, may see the need for this additional material because it will help maintain stability of the CS while in storage. Otherwise it is possible to make much higher concentrations, perhaps even 500 to 1000 ppm, without the protein stabilizer. For example, if one can keep the concentrated CS away from light and electromagnetic fields the stabilizer should not be needed. Reid Ole Bob said: Hi Hilary, Evidently you are new to the list as evidenced by the fact that you missed the key word used in the article and that was silver protein. Stay away from any CS labeled more that 20 or 30 ppm as they probably have a silver compound in them, and that is where the problem lies. Electro colloid as poeple on this list make will not cause argyria!! You would drown in it first. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSome airbrush comments
Why not use a nebulizer from a pharmacy store? Leo James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hi Terry and everyone, I have used only O2. It is the same regulator used for a shop welding rig. They cost about 100 SDRs. Prestolite is a commonly available brand. Any regulator RATED FOR USE WITH OXYGEN in the correct pressure range may be used. Oxygen regulators must be hydrocarbon lubricant free; grease or oil will burn explosively in a pure O2 atmosphere. The pressure works best in the +/- 20 PSI range. Bear in mind; the regulator is not is approved for medical use. All bottled O2 is USP grade. I think the R size tank is the best compromise of portability and easy handling vs time of use per bottle. You may purchase or lease from your local welding supply company. Here, a refill costs about 10 clams. Of course medical regulators may be used. Some have a L/min gauge. Not necessary; you just adjust the pressure so that the airbrush works well; you are not concerned about the O2 actual delivered amount except with a newborn. Then COMPETNENT MEDICAL EXPERTISE IS NECESSARY; a bit too much O2 and the baby can be made permanently blind due to oxidation of components of the retina. When I tried to price small simple inexpensive O2 regulators from local medical supply companies they treated me like I was trying to buy morphine. I have heard they are available on the net, but don't have anymore info. The most complicated part is any adapters you need from the output of the regulator to fit the input of the airbrush. Take your bits and pieces to the welding supply and they will be able to fabricate or order the correct fittings. They cost less than 5 in most instances. The assembly is simple and obvious. If it fits, screw it together. If it does not, seek an adapter. Be gentle; the threads are fine. Fingers tighten to be certain the connection is not cross threaded before applying a preferably non-crushing and non-toothed tool. Dish soap and water will reveal leaks at any joint. Be careful with wrenches; you have a lot of leverage in the small fittings. You know the joint is approaching tight enough when the torque sensation rises abruptly. Tighten lightly, and bubble the joint, tightening more only if necessary. Make sure that the tools are stored with the kit. Put the whole kit in a easy-to-carry container. Hard-shell is harder to carry but better for situations that may require rough handling. Are any state mil guys listening? The airbrush has only one adjustment. It is possible by tweaking the pressure and that venturi adjustment until no spray or mist is seen, but holding the airbrush a couple of inches from your hand reveals moisture accumulation. I presume that is when it is making the smallest particles. Of course the spray can be made coarser and the device used to spray external areas. It is probably a waste to use 02 for that purpose, but there may be some benefit of the O2 getting into solution and there certainly is little likelihood of harm. The enameled steel lid of the airbrush's glass containers react with the sol. The turns dirty yellow in a short period of storage therein. Do not store the sol in them. I am looking for HDPE or other acceptable replacements. Choices abound in Lab supply catalogs. The airbrush is fasten to the lid with a nut and washer, and can be easily transferred to a plastic lid that is not too thick.The little tube from the airbrush can be shortened or replace with a longer tube to reach the bottom of the bottle. If using a compressed air source, even a bicycle pump, ONE SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE PRESENCE OF OIL IN THE PUMP, be it hand or machine powered. Those living in LA will probably not notice the difference. Oil-less is best, or if a manual pump, perhaps replacing the leather cup on the piston with a new one lubricated with a food oil will be good practice. In a pinch you could make a usable leather cup from available articles. Just disassemble the pump and look at the cup. Surplus sources often sell used oil less pumps. A lab or dental vacuum pump may be used as a pressure pump. Anyone handling compressed gasses should LEARN CORRECT HANDLING, STORAGE AND TRANSPORTATION PRACTICES for these substances. Your local welding shop probably has free handouts, or can let you copy their regulations. Don't just stand the bottle up on a floor or table. Sooner or later you will tip it over. Get a carrier with feet, or strap the bottle to a table leg with something. O2 can cause the combustion of virtually anything to accelerate explosively. Once in the space shuttle, at 16 PSI pure O2, a crew members hand caught on fire. Not his glove, his hand. If a bottle simply falls over, it can break the regulator. Worse case, the fitting at the top of the bottle can break off, creating a bottle rocket
Re: CSole bob-making the colloidal silver
Hi all, Ole Bob, definitely one of the best web sites I have visited for a long time. You are a fine example of a fearless friend, thank you for setting a pace that only the brave would dare to follow. www.silverpuppy.com Namaste, Leo. Theodore Corbett wrote: Hi J.C. I just recently purchased the Ole Bob and am totally satisfied with it. It's a no brainer to operate, works from either AC or DC, current limited with auto shut off. Plus with the built in stirrer you can't get much better. Get the canning jar model, I use helmans mayonaise jars, 16 and 32 Oz and it fits perfectly. Go to www.silverpuppy.com for more info and to purchase. T. Corbett --- flyingiron...@aol.com wrote: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSasthma.........
Hi all, Tracy, please send me a copy also, it sounds very interesting. Thank you. Namaste, Leo. - Original Message - From: Nick Grant To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 6:11 AM Subject: Re: CSasthma. Hi Christiane my friend :) Get some pure sea salt - apparently asthmatics need more salt that us normals :). also can you do the Bueteyko method of breathing. You are most likely over breathing - you need to change the range of oxygen and carbon dioxide in your lungs. Others here might have some good advice in the interim. Mail me - I will explain it to you privately if you like. Love Tracy
Re: CSReams info, course, etc.
Hi Terry, I would love to hear more also, my only reservation is: is this suitable for someone as clueless as I. Namaste, Leo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDr. Carey Reams
Hi Terry, Can you tell me, are there any practitioners in Ireland? Namaste, Leo. - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:07 PM Subject: CSDr. Carey Reams Terry Dickinson said: Whenever I see banned book it tends to raise my ire and want to know more. Any reason given for this? Did there happen to be a cure that made the establishment feel threatened? From my Metabolic Bioanalysis brochure: HISTORY: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSResults of ppm calculator lab test
Hi all, Mike Fuller, my understanding of the process is: electron current travels from the cathode (negative silver electrode) -- through the water to the -- anode (positive silver electrode). This electron current drags the silver off the cathode and the silver is adopted by the molecules of water that forms the electronic current path to the anode. The molecule of water that has adopted the silver becomes more conductive, thence the increase in electronic current flow as the process continues. The larger the electronic current, the larger the silver particle that will be dragged off the cathode. I'm assuming most producers using #14 silver wire has spare wire, if you have, then you could use two cathodes in a triangular arrangement relative to the anode, but twice the distance then usual, away from the anode. The effect of doing this would be to double the resistance between each cathode relevant to the anode, but each cathode would supply half the usual electron current flowing to the anode. From my observations small electronic current will produce small bubbles at the cathode, when the cathode is further away from the anode and a much larger current will produce large bubbles, plus, one can see the particles streaming from one electrode through the water to the other electrode, (this is the opposite of what we want, we are intending to produce small particles), when the electrodes are closer to each other. Stirring the water moves the molecules of water that have just taken on the particle of silver out of the electron current path, replacing it with molecules that have not yet adopted silver particles, plus the centrifugal action on the water would tend to force the heavier molecules towards the outer perimeter of the container and out of the electron current path that flows between the electrodes. The air bubbling system causes movement of the water, but not as I described above, I just spotted it in your post as I was cleaning it up in preparation to post this one. I'll post this as is for my own benefit, if any corrections apply. All corrections to the above is welcome. Namaste, Leo. - Original Message - From: Mike Fuller car...@touch88.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: Re: CSResults of ppm calculator lab test Hi all, A question for the technical minded. The conclusion that Herx and Bob came to regarding the size of the cathode had me intrigued, because it would be good to reduce silver buildup. Bob and I believe that the most important factor is the surface area of the cathode (size of the anode is not relevant here). Unfortunately, I used rather large cathodes when generating the samples I sent to Bob for analysis. snip Bob and I hypothesize that a cathode with very little surface area will not allow significant amounts of Ag to plate, If I were to reduce the thickness of my cathode substantially, in a constant current system with air bubbling, would that alter the speed of CS generation? Thanks, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPolarity switching circuit
Hi all, Wolfy, that's very interesting, can you post any schematic diagrams or further information? Namaste, Leo. - Original Message - From: MERLIN DANIEL WOLF merlinw...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 6:50 AM Subject: Re: CSPolarity switching circuit Been using polarty switching for about 4 years now. Wouldn't do it any other way! No oxide, no sludge, no cruddy electodes. Just pure clean Ag.C solution. Opitimum polarity swich time varies acording to batch size, brew temperature, electrode size. A big advanage, in additon to the above, is that it helps maintain a consistent current flow by keeping the electrodes squeeky clean. Wolfy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS the 2nd time around
Hi all, Leacy, I sent both Herx and Ole Bob's posts direct to you, but I received a message indicating that I didn't suceed. Enclosed is Ole Bob's recomendation. Hi Ya'all, When I plotted Herx's data vs my mesurements the slope of an almost straight line is 0.3636. to me this says tha tif you use the Herx calculator and then multiply your answer by 0.3636 you will get very near the correct answer. Remember that Herx used continual mechanical stirring, and is constant current set-up, and that his CS is almost totally ionic. Ole Bob Namaste, Leo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDigital Multimeter
Hi all, Nice work Tony, is that easy to do, (for a computer beginner). Namaste, Leo. - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:24 AM Subject: Re: CSDigital Multimeter Ed, Here is a picture of how to connect a multimeter into the CS making circuit. With that sort of voltage, Be Care Full. Switch off before touching anything. Standby and be prepared to switch off in a hurry in case you get connections wrong. Tony Ed Kasper wrote: OK I bought one at Radio Shack for $15 a digital one NOW how do I use? Do I just put both the positive and negative ends in the water? - after I unplugged the unit... I am using 110VAC volts to a bridge rectifier the output I believe is 54 VDC (2) 10 inches of wet silver (total 20 inches of wet silver) 5 inches apart mechanical stirrer in center (cheapest radio shack motor) one and half gallon distilled water sorry, I read earlier posts but I'm still confused about it. Ed Chuck wrote: Unhook one of your silver rods from the power supply. Connect the multimeter to the power suppy terminal you unhooked. Connect the other multimeter lead to the silver wire you unhooked. Make SURE your multimeter is set to read milliamps. Don't be surprised if it reads 0 when you turn it on, it should increase within several minutes. Chuck Go Lemmings Go! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCardiac arritmia CS
Hi all, Judy Down Maine, I have just visited watercure2.com, Your Body's Many Cries For Water will rank very high on my selection of Christmas gifts for others this Christmas, thank you. Namaste, Leo. - Original Message - From: Jdownmaine To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: RE: CSCardiac arritmia CS Alfredo Please read the websites www.watercure.com and www.watercure2.com Judy Down Maine HELOO EVERYBODY PLEASE IS VERY INTERESTING THAT WE CAN CHANGE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DESEASES, AND HOW THE CS CAN HELP US. THIS TOPIC CAN BE: - CARDIAC ARRITMIA - RENAL STONES - VESICULA BILIAR STONES - DIABETES THANK'S
Re: CSNewbie
Hi all, Welcome to the list Judy. About seven years ago, our daughter developed a severe ear infection, we poured five or six drops of refined aloevera into the infected ear. Within ten seconds the pain stopped and she toddled of to play for the first time that day. The next day we took her to our doctor because of her other ear, he checked both ears. He remarked that she had an infection starting in one ear and that the other ear had a severe infection, but, it was healing nicely, he found this somewhat puzzling. From memory, aloevera is very effective at penetrating tissue and has excellent cooling properties. Has anyone on the list considered it's use in conjunction with CS. Namaste, Leo. - Original Message - From: David Judy Dufresne jdufres...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:20 PM Subject: CSNewbie I am new to this list and VERY new to using CS. CS has been recommended many times on a dog list I belong to, so I thought I would give it a try and join this list to learn more. Sad to say, I am very confused and have no idea what anyone is talking about, I feel like I need a degree in Chemistry. Anyway, thanks to Larry for his input on the Ole Bob, I am going to jump right in and buy a generator. After paying $40 for 8 ounces of CS, I decided if I am going to continue this, I need to make my own. I have a dog with chronic skin conditions and a child with chronic ear infections, so I am hoping I have found a solution in using CS. I am an RN and the idea of using alternative medicine rather than conventional treatments is a real change for me, so if I do start asking stupid questions, please bare with me. Now I will return to lurking and hopefully as I get my feet wet I will have a better understanding of what everyone is talking about. Judy Dufresne New York -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnswer how to calculate ppm of CS at home
Hi all, Herx, many thanks for your ppm calculator, it's great to finally have a reasonable idea of the CS ppm I'm making. The ppm of my last CS batch is calculated to be 48.09ppm. I stirred the solution every two to three minutes, where possible. The color of the CS is clear in daylight and has a pronounced familar metalic taste. I'm definately going to incorporate a stirring mechanism next. Namaste, Leo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMicroscope for sale.
Hi all, A few days ago someone was enquiring about microscopes. If you are still interested there is soon going to be some for auction at www.henrybutcher.com . Namaste, Leo.
Re: CSMicroscope for sale.
Hi all, Wayne, excellent. Namaste, Leo - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: Re: CSMicroscope for sale. Evening LEo, I think that was me. Last week I ordered a digital model. It should be in this week. I am excited about being able to see the small things very large on the computer screen. Will also be able to capture pictures of anything I see worthwhile or anything I can't identify. Fortunately I have a few friends and relatives that are biology professors.I pity them. soon. Wayne
Re: CSIK side effect ??
Hi all, Igor, I'm experimenting with CS for the past while specifically from this effect. In my case I have noticed that the skin on my forehead and nose dry and flake and also the skin on my fingers dry and upstarts form either side of my nails. My intention was to test a little more to verify that CS was associated with these occourences of dry skin, before declaring it. I'm prone to bouts of dandruff after periods of stress, so the dry skin effect from CS could be a form of herx response (I hope). Namaste, Leo - Original Message - From: Igor Kaplun ikap...@worldnet.att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: CSIK side effect ?? Hello List, - I am taking CS for 4 years. I have noticed lately that I have quite dry throat, mouth and eyes during the night hours. I also noticed some little pain in kidneys. Doctor checked my blood and urine test and said that everything is OK. Does anyone knows if such symptoms connected with CS intake? IK -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAloe Vera
Hi all, Pardon my belated response Jef. I have had some great effects from the Forever Living range of products, I have also witnessed some incredible effects of same on other people. Enjoy it for it's unique and unmistakable taste. Namaste, Leo - Original Message - From: Jef Ackermans j...@iles.azm.nl To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:58 AM Subject: CSAloe Vera Hello members, Please, who can give me some more info about Aloe Vera. In my country, The Netherlands, I can get buy several branches which differs much in price. The sellers all try to explain that there stuff is the best. Who has experience on what Ihave to watch to buy the good Aloe Vera. Thanks Best regards, Jef -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSI did it!
Hi all, Congratulations Pam, the fun has only begun. A few months ago I made my first batch of CS, after lurking and considering what to do for about three weeks, I had difficulty accepting as real, what I was reading from the other subscribers. I've been an electronics technician for nigh on twenty years, but it took me nearly a month to get my finger out and make CS. About four days after I produced the first batch our first born, now aged sixteen, stormed into the bathroom, blood dripping form a cut on palm of his left hand. The cut was made by barbed wire, about 3mm in depth. As he rinsed the blood from his hand with the running water he asked me if my CS would help him. I got the CS spray bottle and we sprayed the open cut a couple of times, then he went into his bedroom. About ten seconds had passed when he shouted at me to come quickly, I did. To my amazement the cut was no longer open and the bleeding had stopped, as he showed me his hand, palm open so I could see the wound. My wife returned home about two hours later and she was shown the wound. She thought the wound was three to four days old and was also amazed that it was only two hours old. My motto these days is: Spray first, ask questions later. Namaste, Leo - Original Message - From: Pamela Maltzman pbmaltz...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: CSI did it! Hi, all: I made not one but two of the little CS generators with four 9-volt batteries, and made almost a whole gallon of CS tonight in five or so batches (nearly a quart each). It was not only easy, it was kind of fun. I'm not really a chemist, but the instructions posted on this and other lists were pretty clear. If I get really brave at some point, maybe I will buy a multimeter. I drank some of the CS I made, put some in the cats' watering dishes, then put some CS on the cat scratches on my hands and legs. I will probably end up eventually getting a commercial unit that does both blood electrification and CS generation, but this was a good start. Thank you all again for your generous sharing of information. Pam Maltzman __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSONLY IV Chelation??
Hi all, Thence the frequent use of the phrase Balanced System by alternative health practitioners and all parts of the system are in service to the intelligence in control of the system. {:o) Namaste, Leo Hi all, As I understand, and accept, one of the main tenets of natural health is that the true cause of disease is not the invasion of foreign pathogens, per se, but the creation of an environment that allows those pathogens to flourish. In most cases those microorganisms that are classed as pathogens are present prior to the disease occuring. In other words, the pathogens only become so named because their environment changed. If you were to analyse a representative sample of your lung contents, you would probably be shocked at the diversity and number of microorganisms present (but please don't stop breathing because of it :-). Many of those microorganisms would certainly be classified as pathogens in the circumstance of you being ill from an overabundance of them. You might also be surprised to learn that the number of foreign microorganisms currently residing in your body surpasses the total number of your body cells, by a big margin. Now if you're going to live comfortably in a country where the foreigners outnumber the locals, as you view it, you have to learn the lingo and how best to accomodate all groups. You may decide to rid yourself of one group, bulldoze the slum and its inhabitants so to speak, but if the conditions that caused that slum in the first place remain, then it will re-emerge, possibly in a different place. Far better to expend the energy to create a better environment, ie. build decent housing. Forgive my rant, its just that I feel that a major failing of allopathic medicine, and perhaps other groups in our society, is their inability to view disease, and other invasions, as a consequence of their own actions. Regards, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDemocracy?
Hi all, I'm posting this to the CS list for the benefit of all who want to read it. In Ireland where I live, we have a system of government very similar to U.S.A. a government of the people, for the people, by the people. This is also supported by referendums on issues that require changes to our constitution, all citizens are eligible to vote on these issues. With access to the WWW or intranet and teletext, it is now possible for all the people to acquaint themselves with all the facts of all of the issues of government, make their own decisions regarding these issues and vote accordingly as they wish from either their own homes, from work, from schools, from libraries or from government buildings. This type of democracy would reflect the peoples choices and could be reviewed as often as the people desired. When next you cast your vote are you going to vote for more of the same, or are you going to make a choice for yourself on the one day when you have the power in your hands. I would welcome all of your ideas of how a practical workable system like the above could be implemented and in particular how such a system could be presented to the computer illiterate, from which I am not far removed. Namaste, Leo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com