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RE: CSAg4O4 Silver.. is it better? Where to get it? How is it made?

2012-12-03 Thread Leslie
Thank you Neville but one more thing. Where do you buy your silver? I have an 
old maker but needing silver and on facebook (as sarahleemiller) and that had 
puzzled me what Steve had said. I had some I had bought which someone else must 
have needed but don't remember his name; was off ebay anyway.
Leslie

--- On Mon, 12/3/12, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: CSAg4O4 Silver.. is it better? Where to get it? How is it made?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, December 3, 2012, 2:51 PM







 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:58:39 -0600
 Subject: Re: CSAg4O4 Silver.. is it better? Where to get it? How is it made?
 From: sarahmiller...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 I am checking into the best CS maker I could get and afford.  Steve
 Barwick is always advertising his micro maker which is supposed to
 absorb better in your system?  But is expensive.  All advice
 appreciated (Ode).
 
Like...this bloke would know I'm sure???  His sales pitch matches all the rest 
of the generator pushers out there.  Buy mine, it's the best.Bunkum!
He's wrong on both counts, it's not the best machine out there, they all 
produce the same thing, and the product his machine produces won't absorb in 
your system any better than the most economically home made machine of a 3 or 4 
nine battery setup will produce.  Don't believe half of what marketers and 
machine pushers say, and ignore the rest of what they say.
N.


RE: CSMesosilver

2012-02-09 Thread Leslie
I am finally ready to buy some pure silver. Can ya'll direct me to the best 
place to buy and very reasonable??  Thank you so much, Lee Nash (Leslie)

--- On Sat, 6/2/12, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:

 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
 Subject: RE: CSMesosilver
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 6:08 AM
 A meter will not detect particles.
 An electron microscope requires a dry sample, and drying
 ionic silver solutions results in silver oxide particles.
 How it's dried determines the dispersion pattern.
 It takes a picture of something that was never in the water,
 much larger than what actually was in the water.
 
 The malvern particle sizer [Frank Key as one] will both give
 size ranges and density readings.  It uses a calibrated
 laser.
 
 Eyeballs have limited resolution but aren't calibrated, so
 brightness of the TE tells a story about total reflective
 surface, while an inability to determine single particles as
 they are too small for the eyes resolution limits to
 determine, gives a fuzzy velvety appearance to the laser
 beam.
 
 Both LVDC and HVAC make the same substance...IONS
 Particles are formed out of ions, later, with many variable
 environmental factors involved.
 Water is one of the biggest variables.
 
 Ode
 
 At 06:50 PM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
  Neville, Eskimo,
  
  MesoSilver prints the ppm and the particle size in nms
 on their label. I'm assuming its the average size of
 particles (.65 nm) and they state the ratio is 80% particles
 w/ 20% ions (don't ask me at what size they draw the
 distinction). I believe different size bottles can be
 purchased for 10, 15 or 20 ppm.
  
  I've used them over the last 5 years and notice the
 color does start at yellow and continues on to darker colors
 as the months go by. It's nice to know today there are ways
 to determine, to some degree, what the particle density
 (ppm) is via conductivity measures- to begin with and as a
 finished product of colloidal silver. And the more
 challenging determination of particle size via electron
 microscope for the 1%ers and the laser option for the rest
 of us.
  
  Ag 4all
  
  
  --
  From: one.red...@hotmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSMesosilver
  Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:38:55 +1100
  
  No worries Craig.
  
  The definition of quality relies on the individuals
 interpretation thereof.  What would be the
 characteristics of a product which would be the defining
 factor of quality to the individual?  That's up to the
 individual to decide, and most certainly will be debatable
 among several individuals.
  
  A question was asked, and I responded with my answer,
 others can respond with theirs.
  
  Every marketer purports to have an edge, with home
 produced EIS/CS everyone has pretty much the same product,
 they know exactly what that product is and how it was
 produced, and can choose to use either a high Ag+ ion
 solution or a more neutral particulate solution, can't get
 that with purchased products, it is what it is as it sits on
 the shelf.  Besides, what information is printed on the
 label of the purchased product, apart from the ppm count?
  
  Don't forget, each to his/her own when it comes to this
 stuff g.
  
  N.
  
  
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  Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:30:02 -0800
  From: craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSMesosilver
  
  Hi Neville,
  
  With all due respect, regarding the quality of
 Mesosilver...have you ever seen or used Mesosilver it?
  
  Kind regards,
  
  Craig
  
  Neville Munn wrote:
  No way in the world for me, not as long as my bum
 points to the ground!
  No amount of money would encourage me to purchase *any*
 marketed product when I can make equal or better quality
 stuff myself, especially when I'm ingesting a quantity of
 EIS/CS every day, but even if I wasn't, I would still rather
 make my own than buy it, at least I know what I've got, and
 I know it was produced using LVDC.
  
  They all go on about how their product is produced by
 some mystical secret squirrel method which results in the
 best 'this or that?'.
  Like everything else, the best marketer will get the
 biggest share, doesn't mean it's a quality product though,
 just better sales pitch.
  Disclaimer and conclusion: Each to his/her own.
  N.
  
  
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Re: CSheel spurs

2011-09-13 Thread Leslie
Just calcium gets rid of spurs. I have some in my neck due to an old neck 
injury.Thanks, Lee

--- On Tue, 9/13/11, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSheel spurs
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 1:43 PM

 Just read your response to my Shaklee Calcium ..post. ( OnHeal Spurs) All I 
know for sure, and I do know this, it took 4 caps a day, for a couple weeks 
then 2 caps a day and I felt them leave,  I have used it twice, 10 years in 
between,  now and it worked both times, I heard about it 10 yeas ago from the 
chemist who invented it , at the U Of Ohio. USA.
 I would never say anything on this site I did not try myself.Good luck !  I 
think there is a list of ingredients in this stuff, and it worked so well 
Shaklee bought the rights?Tel TofflemireQuailwood
 Herbal.com Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: CSheel spurs




 
 







 



I
read that bone spurs are caused by the body taking calcium out of bones because
it needs it to function.  Once it is in the blood stream it lands where it
lands.   

PT 

   





From: Jane MacRoss
[mailto:highfie...@internode.on.net] 

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:20 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CSheel spurs 





   



I
understood that Calcium's lack of absorption by the body was one of the CAUSES
of bony spurs / anywhere in the body 





  





Most
Americans seem hooked on Calcium whereas other nations understand that
Magnesium is needed in large doses to assist the utilization of excess
Calcium +  the daily calcium content found in a normal diet  





  





Jane 







-
Original Message -  





From: Tel Tofflemire  





   







I get them too, But I always use
a very strong Calcium ,  It works well if you take enough.  I
recommend Shaklee Brand because they have one brand that works the best.
 PS. = 





(I am not a member or affiliated
with Shaklee in any way) 





  





Tel Tofflemire

Dewey, AZ. 













From: Kathy
Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com 





Has anyone had experience with
heel spurs?  If so, what kind of treatment did you use?  My daughter
has them and they are miserable.  Any help is greatly appreciated. 
Thands,Kathy 





   















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Re: CSPrayer request...

2011-05-07 Thread Leslie
I have found that agreeing with the Word that We are the Healed of the Lord is 
sufficient to show that you are trusting HIM and putting all in HIS control.  

I have a friend that was healed this way but it was awhile before she was. She 
is a missionary and had been in a bad car wreck messing up her back.  She went 
on about her business continually confessing the she was the healed of the Lord 
(if you want a list of healing scriptures, I'll send to you)  She was riding on 
a rough road in Pakistan when all of a sudden the Lord spoke to her asking her 
how was her back??! Then, she realized that it did not hurt and was already 
HEALED.  Praise GOD. 

Leslie (leelee...@gmail.com)

--- On Sat, 5/7/11, Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com wrote:

 From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com
 Subject: Re: CSPrayer request...
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 11:22 AM
 I'm also praying for your brother,
 Mike.  I need prayer and info also.  My DH had
 surgery on Thursday for a sigmoid colectomy, 12 of colon
 removed because of a 1.5 cm carcinoma in a polyp found
 during a colonoscopy.    He is having some trouble
 with getting up and walking, he feels faint when he tries to
 stand, and has nausea.  Last night he also had some
 pain across his chest just below the collarbone upon
 standing.  When lying down he doesn't have these. 
 There was also some redness around the main incision, which
 is about 2 long since he had a laparoscopic surgery. 
 He was not able to make the float in the breathing exercise
 tube go as high either, so perhaps some fluid in the
 lungs.  I'm wondering if he isn't breathing deeply
 enough since his abdomen has pain and it would hurt.
 
 So, my question is should I take some CS to the hospital
 and have him drink it today?  Would the pain killer and
 the IV be putting stuff into his blood that would conflict
 with the silver?   Would putting some on his
 skin be more effective as to bypass the gut or would the
 silver be healing to his intestines in spite of the IV and
 pain medicines, and whatever they give him by mouth?  I
 would try to space it away from oral meds but nurses come in
 unpredictably with stuff for him to take.  The IV is
 going all the time, but would be in his blood and not his
 gut, so couldn't interact until the silver crossed into his
 blood.  I don't know that the silver could make it all
 the way to his colon orally?
 
 Also I was reading an article, but too late to implement 5
 days before surgery, about preventing metastasis during
 surgery-
 
 http://www.healthwatchersnews.com/2009/12/preventing-surgery-induced-cancer-metastasis/
 
 I can't give him these in the hospital but will hit as many
 as I can after he is home.  Some we were taking
 previously.  I thought I remembered something that
 would help recovery from heart operations as well but
 couldn't find it in this article, it was maybe in something
 else I read and could be googled.   As for
 the surgery, my daughter who had a mastectomy 2+ years ago
 (age 36) and doesn't think alternative stuff is as
 effective, was pressuring me to not interfere with his
 decisions to go mainstream.   It was his
 choice, perhaps if they remove all the tumor his survival
 will be increased though they also unleash cells, but
 already had done that with the colonoscopy removal of the
 polyp.  Anyway, I am going to fight, we were already
 doing a lot of anti-cancer stuff including parts of the
 Budwig protocol but not all as Tad reacted with bad
 stomachaches to the flaxseed, but not the oil.  It was
 discouraging to have this happen in spite of our efforts,
 but I think I will veer more toward the enzyme treatments,
 and raw food diet, since we were eating cooked non-gluten
 rice, buckwheat, and quinoa and lots of beans, perhaps he
 couldn't really handle carbohydrate well, he couldn't seem
 to lose weight for anything, was about 20 lbs
 overweight.  Maybe he will lose some now in the
 hospital.  At least his liver was clear.  The
 report on success of this surgery if stage 1 is 96%. 
 That may be at a certain time from the surgery.
 
 I find the most effective way to pray is to speak to the
 individual problem areas and tell them to be gone, as
 redness and infection be gone from Tad's incision, and
 according to my belief system of what Name is above all
 other names in heaven and earth, in the Name of Jesus, or
 Hebrew version, Yeshua.  I have been healed
 supernaturally a number of times using that kind of prayer
 plus confessing healing scriptures repeatedly, like Isaiah
 53 and NT versions.  SURELY.
 
 Nancy
  
  
    
 
 
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Re: CSDMSO

2011-01-17 Thread Leslie
Lois, may I ask what you take DMSO internally for?  I have not participated in 
the group for a long time due to computer.  Still  barely going.  As I 
mentioned, I apply externally to a tumor on inside of arm and then pat on 
baking soda. Hope it works. It seems to have moved and shrunk slightly; very 
slow but still hoping.
Thanks,
Leslie
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From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 2:30 PM



 
 



In a message dated 1/15/2011 2:42:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
blacksa...@comcast.net writes:

  
  Does anyone know where you can 
  purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in glass bottles)?I’ve got 
  the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local Agway store and I 
understand 
  it really shouldn’t be used due to the impurities. I’m in the Northeast so 
  would love to hear from everyone, but certainly northeastern places would 
help 
  with shipping costs.Thanks.Lisa

Hi Lisa, I've bought mine at the local farm supply for years  it works 
great. Both internal  external... If it's good enough for multi million 
dollar race horses it sure is good enough for my family--friends--pets-- 
me...Lois


  

RE: CSDMSO

2011-01-16 Thread Leslie

Hi Dianne, I am using DMSO on a small tumor on my arm and putting soda on top 
of it and it seems to be working a little bit.  By itself did not do anything 
that I could tell.  Hopefully, the tumor will go away. But, awhile back I was 
hearing that it did not matter so I bought mine at Ace Appliance Hardware here 
in town, but I am not taking it internally. Will be interesting to see what 
answers come forth. 

Leslie--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: CSDMSO
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 8:33 AM





 
We bought some for injection purposes from our vet but paid a lot more for it 
from him.  Have not used it injected for us but have taken it orally.  Mostly 
we use the standard that Dee mentioned.


 

 Subject: Re: CSDMSO
 From: d...@deetroy.org
 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:53:50 +
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 I think the 99.9% is fine to use. This is the one I use and it is in a 
 plastic bottle. dee
 
 On 15 Jan 2011, at 19:41, Lisa wrote:
 
  Does anyone know where you can purchase 100% pharmaceutical grade DMSO (in 
  glass bottles)?
  
  I’ve got the industrial strength 99.9% pure from the local Agway store and 
  I understand it really shouldn’t be used due to the impurities. I’m in the 
  Northeast so would love to hear from everyone, but certainly northeastern 
  places would help with shipping costs.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Lisa
 
 
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CSDoes CS work on a skin rash

2010-08-07 Thread Leslie Blake
I've been reading the posts on the silver list for a few weeks now hoping to
pick up some tips and advice.  Time to ask a question I think. 

 

 Dose CS have any effect of skin ?  I've had a strange (benign) rash,
starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each side
of the torso and a bit in the groin area.  It sometimes is slightly raised
but right now it's fairly feint. It's usually more pronounced after a show.
It doesn't itch - it's just there.I've consulted dermatologists in the
UK and USA without success.  If I apply DMSO it seems to expose a lot more
rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn't reduce it.

 

Might CS help me with this ?   Any guidance would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in anticipation.

Les



Re: CSarthritic pain

2010-06-13 Thread leslie
Interesting. What does the Nigari do that magnesium chloride doesn't? I have 
some Mag. Chloride that I bought to help stop muscle spasms and it seems worse 
whenever I take it. It is strong; like a chemical. Did buy from a chemical 
company in Ca. Also, magnesium is supposed to help with any kind of heart 
problems. Is this true? 
Lee
  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


  What I read was half cup magnesium chloride flakes to half cup waterBut I 
ended up adding more flakes than that. At least a cup of flakes. You will know 
when too many flakes have been added because they won't dissolve. No big deal. 
Just decant the good liquid into another container and leave the flakes behind 
for your next batch

  I am using my home made magnesium oil...

  Mag oil is just water that has had as much magnesium chloride flakes added to 
it as possible

  garrick







Re: CSarthritic pain

2010-06-13 Thread leslie
Thank you so much. Oh, and one more thing. What about getting one of the best 
sea salts? Right now around here you can only buy Hain brand. I am drinking 
distilled water and have heard that you need to add a little sea salt. 

Lee
  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:21 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


  When I said magnesium chloride flakes they are from a natural source. An 
ancient sea in Holland. Nigari is a Japanese natural form of magnesium chloride 
that is a byproduct of making sea salt. In both cases you don't get 100% 
magnesium chloride. You get other natural compounds found in seawater

  Both the above are preferable to getting magnesium chloride from a chemical 
supply house. Not pure enough according to some on the internet. Might have 
lead and other heavy metals...so say some

  I would get the natural form and see if you do better with it

  garrick





  On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:17 PM, leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:

Interesting. What does the Nigari do that magnesium chloride doesn't? I 
have some Mag. Chloride that I bought to help stop muscle spasms and it seems 
worse whenever I take it. It is strong; like a chemical. Did buy from a 
chemical company in Ca. Also, magnesium is supposed to help with any kind of 
heart problems. Is this true? 
Lee
  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


  What I read was half cup magnesium chloride flakes to half cup 
waterBut I ended up adding more flakes than that. At least a cup of flakes. 
You will know when too many flakes have been added because they won't dissolve. 
No big deal. Just decant the good liquid into another container and leave the 
flakes behind for your next batch

  I am using my home made magnesium oil...

  Mag oil is just water that has had as much magnesium chloride flakes 
added to it as possible

  garrick









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Re: CSResipe Tincture of Cayenne is made with Ever-Clear Grain Alcohol

2010-05-23 Thread leslie
Just adding a small hint here re cayenne pepper; I have had anxiety attacks and 
when my chest tightens up, I take about 1/3 teas. of cayenne pepper mixed in 
about 1/4 to 1/3 glass of orange drink or whatever I have to kill the heat and 
chugalug it and drink some orange afterwards. It clears the arteries out for me 
and stops hurting in less than 30 min. Usually within 10 min. 

Hope this helps someone. Oh, and taking any pineapple with that would make me 
sick. Should be spaced out considerably. Also, one of the quickest things to 
ruin is pineapple mixed with things like cake, pie, etc. 

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Day Sutton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:15 AM
  Subject: Re: CSResipe Tincture of Cayenne is made with Ever-Clear Grain 
Alcohol


  cuyanne should be tinctured (according to Dr. Shulze) with 40% pure alcohol 
and 60% distilled water.  The two remove different parts of the peppers during 
the tincturing process.  This just happens to be the formula for 80 proof 
vodka..


  On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org 
wrote:

Why would anyone sue a cab driver at all?  Surely its not his fault someone 
has a heart attack!  dee

On 23 May 2010, at 02:46, Tel Tofflemire wrote:

 Dear CS Listers, Sometimes you get away with what you do by mistake ! 
(Like the statement (You need way more than a couple of drops ...you need 
whatever she said is wrong,!!!   Its a wonder she did not harm her Dad's Voice 
box, and other tender things in  his stomach. Sorry But luck does not make it 
right.

 Never use more than a couple of drops under the tongue at a time, It only 
takes that much to devolve a clot in just a few seconds under the tongue. I 
have used it and it works most every time on clotting attacks, in seconds. 
Beware  my friends, you can over do it and be Sorry, More is NOT Better.

  The Taxi cab Drivers in big cities came up with the Pepper Tincture 
about 14 or 15 years ago in the USA  at a meeting to try and figure out how to 
avoid so many lawsuits from families of Stroke  Heart Attack Victims who sued 
the cab companies involved.




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Re: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

2010-05-08 Thread Leslie
missed seeing the autism video. Can you help me? friend's grandson just 
diagnosed with this. thanks, Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: kmartjo...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:21 PM
  Subject: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.


  I would be deadI was exposed unknowingly to 9 types of mold for years 
from a/c in car...read  what usually happens withfungal_disease.pdf or 
www.mayoclinic.com/health/aspergillosis/DS00950 I found additional  
information after taking CS from EMSL lab show how CS kills aspergillus and 
other pathogens
  I was so sick 10 months ago...I didn't care if I died...ionic cs, 
manna tech, twice daily fir saunas, omega 3 oil,alpha lipoic acid, minerals, 
zeolite, 10 other supplements ..watching You Tube...The Cancer 
Answer.running in place on $30.00 ...38 Walmart trampoline... clears 
lymph glands...do  daily for   30 minutes at a time up to 130 beats per minute 
or your age group then get in sauna.. 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=380881482962821998#   
  a must read for proper supplements..  .Dr.Sherry Rogers books ...Detox or 
Die, Environmental Illnessother books Clear Body Clear Mind, 7 Pillars of 
Health, excellent ...Dr.Barry Sears books...on Omega 3 fish oil...
  it was cs that was most important...at a desperate time like I was 
suffocating I started putting ionic 5 ppm in CPAP machine and put directly in 
my lungs...3-4 days later I started feeling better
  anyone has any suggestions on this type of mold illness, please share,
  12-15  some medical practicing doctors gave me 2 MRI'S, 1 MRA, 4 CT 
Scans, many X rays, stress tests, 3 pulmonary function tests, 14  allergy 
shots...I was allergic to. they had no clue
  one doctor I told I was taking CS , told me not to take colloidal silver 
..After taking a month later..I told him how I was taking CS I 
quote this Doctor  said  that amazing,  I am surprised I didn't think of 
that
  no wonder most people who get this or  black mold disease dies...I read 
everything I can on my illness...Reading books and searching the internet, 
asking question of  Kaufman's Know The Cause blog has changed my life...I 
still have some issues, but I show promise for improved health...

  In a message dated 1/1/2010 10:36:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
chube...@yahoo.com writes:
  I agree with Ode's general line here that we don't KNOW what would 
have happened had we NOT taken CS.

  On the other hand. when a large group of people, such as the 
people on this list, consistently take CS and have nothing else fully in common 
in their lives and none of them get sick for years.. this is pretty 
compelling evidence that goes beyond the typical assumptions made from 
anecdotal one-time non-reproduceable results.

  It's not proof, but DAMN!

  --- On Fri, 1/1/10, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:


From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: CS..How many watched the video and passed on..these 
videos are about Autism
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 9:27 AM



 No..actually it was a conclusion jumped to without considering 
threshold level factors and the broader picture of sources.

The vaccine may have crossed an existing threshold for you, but by 
your own testimony, wasn't the major source of mercury.
The chelation and amalgam removal may have brought you just below 
MS effect threshold.
You see... 10 Tuna fish sandwiches may have done the same thing as 
the vaccine.
But you did get the vaccine and didn't eat the sandwiches...so how 
do you know?

You don't know.

I've been using CS for ten years and haven't gotten sick, therefore 
CS prevents illness.
However, HAVING used the CS, you DON'T know what would have 
happened had you not...and you just can't do both at once to find out.

So, at best, we can draw a general conclusion about ideas.
It's a good idea to use CSeven if it doesn't work, it does no 
harm and it just might work, but there's no way to know on a personal basis and 
illness is nothing BUT personal.
It's a good idea to avoid ALL sources of mercury as best you can.

Ode


 



Re: CSDeodorant

2010-05-07 Thread Leslie
I was wondering if spraying CS on your garden might help repel the bugs from 
eating them? 

I know CS is mild otherwise, do ya'll have any suggestions? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CSDeodorant


  Potassium Alum is NOT aluminum... No component of that rock is large enough 
to penetrate into the bloodstream, not going to happen. Natural crystals don't 
contain any aluminum...

  They make it in a Mist form, which is quite good.  Although I rarely use 
deodorant, and if I do, it's the rock or spray.  I tend to think we're supposed 
to sweat, you know?  If I stink a little, that's someone elses problem, not 
mine..

  gwms...@optonline.net wrote: 
Some of these stones contain aluminun.  I didn't believe it, but I checked 
it some years ago. 
Justj look at the ingredients don't assume that they are all natural.  In 
addition, the stone is 
super if you can use it, but after a few weeks, I become allergic and it 
breaks my underarms out.
But even plain baking soda breaks myt underarms out after two days.  

G   

- Original Message -
From: bodhisattva 
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: CSDeodorant
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Don't fret about deodorant, use a 500 old crystal and never 
 smell again. 
 I guarantee it works, and you will never look back at any other 
 deodorant again. If you go the Philippines, they sell this in 
 huge 
 chunks on the side of the road for a few bucks. Probably find it 
 wholesale somewhere on the internets..
 
 Few people really seem to know about it.. Probably by design, 
 this stuff 
 would kill the 20 million dollar a year deodorant industry in 
 the US - 
 overnight.. They love using our bodies as chemical disposal units.
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Tawas-Starter-Crystal-
 
/300363223336?cmd=ViewItempt=UK_HeathBeauty_BathShowCons_RLhash=item45ef0b1128
 
 
 Sunny wrote:
  I'm experimenting with CS and oil of oregano as a deodorant.. 
 it seems to be working...
 
  sunny x
  
 
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Re: CSKilling poison ivy/oak

2010-04-21 Thread Leslie

thanks! I didn't think of that.
- Original Message - 
From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: CSKilling poison ivy/oak


Do ya'll know anything that will kill Poison Ivy or Poison Oak? I have a 
lot

of it just taking over.


You should pose the question on Google.


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2010-04-21 Thread Leslie
I have deleted the email address of leslie3...@windstream.net and kept the 
leslie1...@windstream.net

Please make the change.

Thanks,
Leslie 


Re: CSKilling poison ivy/oak

2010-04-20 Thread Leslie
Can I grind up orange peels or do I have to buy this with other ingredients in 
it? Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Banever 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: CSKilling poison ivy/oak


  For a less toxic approach, try spraying them with d-limonene made from orange 
peels.  This will probably do the trick.
- Original Message - 
From: Christina Mattson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: CSKilling poison ivy/oak





Leslie, i don't know right off hand, we don't have that problem 
where i live, but you may want to find out if there is anything it doesn't 
like. 
for example i don't like dandelions on my lawn so i pour straight 
horse manure tea on them, it is pure nitrogen and they disapear within a week. 
In the past i have seen natural Herbicides somewhere on the web. Poison Oak and 
Ivy are pretty hardy and Round up will definately kill them.
I don't use it because i have a child and pets that roam around.
Good Luck
Tina 





From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net


Do ya'll know anything that will kill Poison Ivy or Poison Oak? I 
have a lot of it just taking over. 
thanks,








 



Re: CSHELP! Could use some advice on PREVENTING mold

2010-04-19 Thread Leslie
Do ya'll know anything that will kill Poison Ivy or Poison Oak? I have a lot of 
it just taking over. 
thanks,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Christina Mattson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 5:55 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHELP! Could use some advice on PREVENTING mold


Hi Dee, This is what works best for me. 1 ounce of H2O2, 1 ounce of 
EIS, and 31 ounces of regular water unless it has chlorine in it because thats 
not really good for the plants and with the H2O2.  If you didn't use the either 
the EIS or the H2O2 than use 32 ounces
(1 quart of water) Spray in on and water with it too because that will 
strengthen the plants imune system as well. During times of high humidity this 
may be a regular maintenance thing but if the imune system is strong it may not 
happen as often. 
Also i just want to share this, Trace mineral spray does wonders for 
plants, it has cured various viruses on my tomatoes. i also read that CS is 
great for plant virus so ill be using that with H2O2 on half my plants and EIS 
with H2O2 on the other to see which does best.
a bottle of Spray n Grow- (Trace Minerals) is expensive but it lasts 
for 3 months used every two weeks or less. Another bonus to trace minerals is 
that the plants were resistant to infestation when they were directly next to 
several plants that had aphids.
Tina

-- On Mon, 4/19/10, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:


  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  Subject: Re: CSHELP! Could use some advice on PREVENTING mold
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 4:30 AM


  Hi Tina I noticed from your posts that you use CS/H202 on your 
plants.  Every year I start off with lovely plants and then the dreaded 'black 
spot' fungus comes along!  Do you know if your solution would prevent/kill this 
and if so, what mix would I use please?  Many thanks in advance.  dee

  On 18 Apr 2010, at 22:51, Christina Mattson wrote:

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Re: CSSilver for astmatics

2010-04-18 Thread leslie
What did Doug Kaufman recommend to get rid of the fungus instead of always 
treating the symptoms. Yes, CS in a nebulizer helps but remember CS is a very 
mild type antibiotic. I have heard of mixing a little bit of DMSO in there and 
there is a yahoo group on DMSO as that is just what I heard.

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Tankersley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: CSSilver for astmatics


   I'm watching to see if there is anyone out there with a solution, I, too am 
searching around for solution for asthma, right now I am doing acupucture, I've 
only had a couple treatments so far.  Dr. Richard Becker has a health book and 
TV program, where he recommends vitamins for asthma (alot of B vitamins).  I 
started this regiment2-3 years ago. Doug Kaughman has a 
  TV program and book, his theory is alot of asthma is fungus related, so diet 
is important.  I am on Avair and a rescue inhaler.  I am like you I would love 
to get off this medication.  Advair is almost $300.00 a month and the resuce 
inhaler is $230.00 a month.  I also have my nebulizer when necessary.  Recently 
I started with Beta Glugan to see if that will help.  Someone on the list 
recommended 'Buteyko Breathing Exercises,  I am going to get the CD on that, 
but I'm leary of 'shalow breathing'.   I juice fresh juices and take a gob of 
vitamins daily and have for years.  I still fight the awful desease every 
winter, in the hospital, full of steroids, anti-botics till I can't think or 
function.  I am praying for you and all asthmatics, as I know what  you are 
going through.Good luck and keep us posted as to the treatment you are 
doing, and if it is doing any good.Thanks for listening...Kathy
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Goodwin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver for astmatics


CL?

I'm with you on that -- same situation, same desire to get off big pharma.

I've inhaled nebulized CS for some time, but have not noticed any 
improvement.

Dick





From: Ronald Lowry rblow...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 6:14:40 PM
Subject: CSSilver for astmatics


I am a 60 yo male asthmatic who would like to wean himself off my asthma 
meds by substituting CL via a nebulizer.I am in excellent health, but am 
getting tired of supporting big pharmaand being one of their guinea pigs. 
Has any one tried CL as a cure for asthma, how was it delivered, and what were 
the results? Were you able to remove yourself from your prescriptions? 
Thanks
ron

Re: CSSilver for astmatics

2010-04-18 Thread leslie
They have DMSO for horses and other animals so you might try a feed store. I 
got mine at Ace Hardware. From what I had read, it shouldn't matter. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Tankersley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:07 AM
  Subject: Re: CSSilver for astmatics


  I'm not sure where to look for DMSO at, the internet has oddles of DMSO, 
where do you get yours?  And I wonder if all the liquid is okay for adding to 
CS and inhaling?..Thanks, Kathy
- Original Message - 
From: Hanneke 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver for astmatics


Whenever needed for my asthma, and that is very rarely these days, I use my 
nebulizer  with about CS 10 ppm and I add about 5-8 drops of DMSO. With my 
earlier nebulizer I would do that for about 20 minutes. With the ultra sonic it 
is only a few minutes. 

However, I can highly recommend looking into the breathing method of 
Buteyko. . This has helped me off all meds  way back. It's an easy method to 
learn,  basically re-learning to breathe properly. Its application is used for 
many other  conditions involving breathing.  A friend of mine was able to do 
away with the PapC machine (sp?) to which he had to hook himself up every night 
to be able to sleep through the night.  


Please google for  places in USA. It has been introduced in the USA. It 
originates in Russia, is even part of the official health system in Russia for 
asthma patients.

Hanneke


At 08:29 PM 18/04/2010, you wrote:

  CL?

  I'm with you on that -- same situation, same desire to get off big pharma.

  I've inhaled nebulized CS for some time, but have not noticed any 
improvement.

  Dick


  From: Ronald Lowry rblow...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 6:14:40 PM
  Subject: CSSilver for astmatics

  I am a 60 yo male asthmatic who would like to wean himself off my asthma 
meds by substituting CL via a nebulizer.I am in excellent health, but am 
getting tired of supporting big pharmaand being one of their guinea pigs. 
Has any one tried CL as a cure for asthma, how was it delivered, and what were 
the results? Were you able to remove yourself from your prescriptions? 
  Thanks
  ron
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Re: CSH202 - again

2010-04-18 Thread leslie
Probably just fine. Think we humans get the worst of it. I used sea salt 
last night.
- Original Message - 
From: poast po...@prodigy.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



Hello Leslie,

You are going to laugh at this, but we are using Aquarium salt.  My son 
just

went to the pet store and that is what he came back with.  I have no idea
how it stacks up to the other salts, but fish love it.  I figure if it
doesn't kill the fish it is probably OK to use.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



Did you use that Himalaya salt or plain sea salt from the health food

store?

I use that anyway.
- Original Message - 
From: poast po...@prodigy.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again


 Hello Leslie,

 My son complains of the drinking water in his city.  We took the PWT

meter

 and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea

salt

 to
 distilled water to get the same conductivity reading.  We came up with
 adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water.

 Tom


 - Original Message - 
 From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: CSH202 - again


 I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
 minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like

Chlorine.
 - Original Message - 
 From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
 Subject: Re: CSH202 - again


  Dee,
   I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for

nearly

  everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
  But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that
 H202
  for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be
  undesireable for those uses.
  sol
 
  Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
  Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled
  water
  when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather

do
  this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do 
  that.

  I
  noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSHELP! Could use some advice on PREVENTING mold

2010-04-18 Thread Leslie
Isn't that MMS? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: poast 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:30 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHELP! Could use some advice on PREVENTING mold


  Hello Lisa,

  I would suggest mixing up a chlorous acid solution and fogging it in.  

  If you don't have a fogger, a garden sprayer will work.

  Chlorous acid is made by adding citric acid to sodium chlorite.  

  Do you have access to these chemicals or know anything about them?

  When you apply this to the room, it will stabilize the situation.  It will 
keep mold and mildew from forming, and kill off any that is just starting to 
form.

  Let me know if you want to go this way and I can give you the mixing 
instructions and all the help you need in applying it.

  Tom
- Original Message - 
From: Lisa 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: CSHELP! Could use some advice on PREVENTING mold


Hi All,

 

Our boiler died on Friday leaving us with several inches of water in the 
basement which traveled to carpeted areas. We have vacuumed and also have a 
dehumidifier running.and it's lots better but definitely still damp. It wasn't 
caught right away so there was steam everywhere and condensation on the walls 
(almost like a sauna etc.). The boiler will be fixed this week (hopefully.funds 
are low blah blah blah) but my major concern is mold and mildew. Does anybody 
have any ideas on how to PREVENT mold from starting? Anything would be helpful 
as I'm just about clueless.we can't afford Serve Pro or any other professional 
to come in and help. I do have a pretty good sized fan (it sounds like an 
airplane) that I can use.but it's been raining all weekend (yea.NOT!) and 
didn't think it made any sense opening up the windows to potentially allow any 
more moisture IN.

 

Anybody? Please?

 

And I thank you for even the silliest idea as aside from running the 
dehumidifier (which by no means is commercial) - I honestly don't have a clue.

 

Thanks SO much.

 

Lisa


Re: CSH202 - again

2010-04-17 Thread Leslie
I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



Dee,
 I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly 
everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 
for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be 
undesireable for those uses.

sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water 
when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do 
this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I 
noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee






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Re: CSH202 - again

2010-04-17 Thread leslie
WOW. I was wondering as at night my mouth gets dry like I am dehydrated. 
Thanks for responding. Leslie
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From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again


I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with 
minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body.  I 
read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again


I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



Dee,
 I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly 
everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that 
H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to 
be undesireable for those uses.

sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water 
when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do 
this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that.  I 
noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee






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Re: CSH202 - again

2010-04-17 Thread Leslie
OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and 
adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me 
and reasonable px. Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



sol,

  You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 
stage) reverse osmosis filtration system.  I have a remineralizing filter 
as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. 
These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. 
Good luck


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again


I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not 
noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone 
has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online 
research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink 
clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, 
chlorine, and so forth. There is  naturally occurring fluoride in the 
water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways 
of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove 
fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none 
of those remove fluoride.
There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled 
water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself.
If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but 
I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight 
but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of 
DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW.

sol

Leslie wrote:
I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra 
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like 
Chlorine.



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Re: CSH202 - again

2010-04-17 Thread leslie
How much does that meter cost? My batteries are out of that TDS (?) meter 
and it takes 4 or 6 which is 6.75 at Utopia. I am not sure that is a really 
good meter either, so thinking to get another kind. thanks, Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: poast po...@prodigy.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



Hello Leslie,

My son complains of the drinking water in his city.  We took the PWT meter
and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt 
to

distilled water to get the same conductivity reading.  We came up with
adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again


 Dee,
  I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly
 everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
 But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that

H202

 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be
 undesireable for those uses.
 sol

 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled 
 water

 when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do
 this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. 
 I

 noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee




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Re: CSH202 - again

2010-04-17 Thread Leslie
Did you use that Himalaya salt or plain sea salt from the health food store? 
I use that anyway.
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From: poast po...@prodigy.net

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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



Hello Leslie,

My son complains of the drinking water in his city.  We took the PWT meter
and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt 
to

distilled water to get the same conductivity reading.  We came up with
adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water.

Tom


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From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again



I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra
minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine.
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From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSH202 - again


 Dee,
  I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly
 everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water.
 But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that

H202

 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be
 undesireable for those uses.
 sol

 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled 
 water

 when making my 3% H202.  If it is alright to use tap I would rather do
 this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. 
 I

 noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water.  dee




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Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-12 Thread Leslie
Mine is pretty clear and sometimes yellow.Hardly ever dark unless I let it run 
too long. I was told to try and reach 10 ppm. Am I using the best tester? I had 
wondered what the red laser pointer was for and wrote a man who handled them 
but never heard back with any info. What does it do? I want to make the best I 
can with what I am able to afford.

Thank you.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Scotty 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions


H202 works as I've used it several times to lighten the golden color. 
But Neville is correct yellow is okay in the world of CS. I never throw out CS 
even when I started out and made mud looking CS. I would put it in a spray 
bottle and use it as a disinfectant or water the indoor plants with it. CS as 
low as 3ppm is effective so don't trip on the 8ppm. That's been my experience!


Scotty

Have a great day!

 




--- On Mon, 4/12/10, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:


  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 5:16 AM


  Thanks for the reply Neville, but I am afraid I'm not so laid back 
about things as you are lol I do like to know the 'whys' and 'wherefores' so 
to speak.  I didn't get a reply about the iodine/CS/DMSO thing which was 
disappointing--but also I now have had two batches of CS go pale yellow for no 
reason.  
  I realize that this happens and there is no one explanation really 
for it, but I thought I would try the H202 thing with it as this is supposed to 
also be beneficial.  i.e. it splits the colloids into tinier fragments (see 
Ode's site)  The first lot  I dropped in two drops of 35% H202 and this went 
immediately clear.  This had a weak tyndall effect however, although it read 
10ppm on the TDS meter.

  The second lot, I put in one drop of 35% H202 and this had a really 
strong tyndall effect - but the ppm was only 8.  This solution is also very 
slightly cloudy.  I put in another drop of H202 and I think it has now cleared. 
 They both have tiny bubbles at the bottom.  Has anyone any ideas or 
explanations for this?  dee

  On 12 Apr 2010, at 13:00, Neville Munn wrote:

   Throw the questions out there and you'll soon enough hook one of 
your 'guru's' g.

   Meantime, I'll offer you an individuals assessment on your colour 
thing...don't worry about it, if you're making good quality stuff {meaning no 
mud or gravel laying in the bottom of your storage vessels} colour is not an 
issue.  And the HP thing...shouldn't need it, and again, if you're making good 
quality stuff why would you want to hit it with HP?  Don't be phased by colour, 
unless it's a murky colour.

   There ya go Dee, I've filled in a gap til one of your guru's comes 
walzing thru the door g.

   N.



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Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-12 Thread Leslie
Dorothy, Mine doesn't take nearly as long as this. Even battery operated. I 
also use a TDS meter I guess; came from Utopia Silver. I have a battery 
operated from them and also an electric one which is faster, but the Utopia 
one takes about 2 hours.
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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions


Hi Leslie, this is one of the problems I have had i.e. the machine hasn't 
turned off for over six hours even though the ambient temperature has 
actually risen here.  The ppm has only been six at this point so to reach 
10ppm I've had to run it for another two hours.  This is for only half a 
litre, so I'm wondering if this is what is causing the yellowing.  I use a 
simple TDS meter which is not accurate but is near enough.  The red laser 
pointer is to test the finished CS for 'tyndall effect' which shows that you 
actually have silver in your solution.  If you have, it makes a clear red 
line through the CS water.  dee


On 12 Apr 2010, at 15:52, Leslie wrote:

Mine is pretty clear and sometimes yellow.Hardly ever dark unless I let it 
run too long. I was told to try and reach 10 ppm. Am I using the best 
tester? I had wondered what the red laser pointer was for and wrote a man 
who handled them but never heard back with any info. What does it do? I 
want to make the best I can with what I am able to afford.


Thank you.
Leslie



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Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions

2010-04-12 Thread leslie
I do love snow cream but do understand it has to be off the top and not 
yellow! LOL
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From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions


Don't eat yellow snow!

yellow CS is OK though...

Chuck
Attempt to get a new car for your spouse
--it'll be a great trade!


On 4/12/2010 10:52:46 AM, Leslie (leslie1...@windstream.net) wrote:

Mine is pretty clear and sometimes yellow.Hardly ever dark unless I let it
run too long. I was told to try and reach 10 ppm. Am I using the best
tester? I had wondered what the red laser pointer was for and wrote a man
who handled them but never heard back with any info. What does it do? I
want to make the best I can with what I am able to afford.

Thank you.
Leslie
- Original Message -
From: Scotty [link: mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com]
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone? now - serious CS questions


H202 works as
I've used it several times to lighten the golden color. But Neville is 
correct yellow is okay in the world of CS. I never throw out CS even when 
I started out and made mud looking CS. I would put it in a spray bottle 
and use it as a disinfectant or water the indoor plants with it. CS as low 
as 3ppm is effective so don't

trip on the 8ppm.
That's been my experience!


Scotty
Have a great day!




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Re: CSSolid sodium chlorite mold killer

2010-04-10 Thread leslie
Did the humidifier do any good? why did you have to have your contractor/ Just 
curious as I have a friend with an old house full of mold and mildew 
(especially in her basement) She is sick and can hardly get around and no money 
for repairs either. So, I'm looking for something she can do to get rid of the 
mold/mildew. 

Any suggestions here will be appreciated. Thanks,,,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: brick...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CSSolid sodium chlorite mold killer


  Activated MMS in an ultrasonic humidifier was used to clear the Capitol of 
every single Anthrax spore according to Jim Humbel. Why wouldn't it also kill 
mold spores? I have a large humidifier that holds about 1 gallon of liquid and 
alternate using it with EIS/DMSO and activated MMS in my living room. My 
kitchen had a large mud puddle caused by a leaky dishwasher and tons of mold. 
The kitchen was worked over by a contractor which cost me $40,000.00.
  Brickey

Re: CSNow: Mold, Was: Pinging Mike

2010-03-28 Thread Leslie
Gee. Where might I buy good plastic jugs to hold CS in? Or to put good 
reverse osmosis water in or distilled??
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Monett mi...@pstca.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: CSNow: Mold, Was: Pinging Mike


There are poisons in the vinyl, too, that may be as dangerous as the 
mold.


That smell you get from purchasing a new vinyl shower curtain is dangerous
to your health.  Please check that out, too.


Same problem with any new vinyl product. Cars, waterbeds, raincoats, etc.

Other plastics may contain chemicals such as BPA, or leach plasticizer 
into
food or drinking water. It is important to know which plastics are 
harmful,

and to avoid them.

I have stopped using dw jugs made from HDPE. They leaves a bad plasticizer
taste in the water. PETE jugs leave no taste at all.

Regards,

Mike M.


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Re: CShypothyroid

2010-03-28 Thread Leslie
I have also heard this was a very good thing for your health. Keep me informed, 
ok? I am not ready now but hopefully in a couple of months can get this going. 
Had a friend who got a good deal by ordering a bunch like 10 pounds?? that's a 
lot.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CShypothyroid





  On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

  I think i am going to start growing my own wheatgrass for juicing, it 
is supposed to be a good form of chlorophil. I'll let everyone know how i 
decide to go about this.  Meanwhile here's a pretty helpful link i found. 
http://nutritionholistic.com/2009/03/how-to-grow-wheatgrass-at-home/


 

  Hi

  I've been growing and juicing wheatgrass for months - it's really easy to do. 
I don't like the taste of the juice on it's own but throw it in with some apple 
or other fruit/veg combo and it's fine.  The CHI (Wigmore) also recommend 
putting a bunch of wheatgrass in your bath to absorb the chlorine if you don't 
have a whole house filter.

  cheers
  Kirsteen


Re: CShypothyroid

2010-03-28 Thread Leslie
Is Iodine good for breast cancer? My daughter has a lump in her breast and 
also is overweight so could be the thyroid. I have the iodine but was afraid 
to take it internally and just swab it on.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: CShypothyroid


Gina, the liver needs vit A for a lot of things including other hormones, 
and the reuptake of estrogen to deactivate excess and remove it through 
bile and urine. Better do some more reading on Selenium and why we take it 
with Iodine, I think breastcancerchoices.com has a list and the reason for 
each, or maybe it was the Iodine Gruop. I've read so much over the last 
year I don't remember where all my sources are. I have no problem at all 
with my thyroid hormones and I take 200 - 600 mg per day. If there were a 
problem it would have shown up by now. It also depends on the form of 
Selenium you use. You can find people to say bad things about anything. I 
read and researched the pros and cons, everything I could get my hands on 
really, before I ever started taking the Iodine.


Someone just posted recently on another group that high Vit C intake is 
bad for you. So you see, you can find bad info anywhere. The best thing to 
do is dig for yourself and then you'll know. I'm satisfied that what I'm 
doing is good for me. I've done my research and I do my best to keep up 
with the latest studies and news about all this stuff.


Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


sol wrote:

Gina Moore wrote:
Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 
(active

hormone).
I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for 
many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A 
deficiency.

sol


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Re: CShypothyroid

2010-03-25 Thread leslie
My daughter almost died and I have been nursing her back to health for years 
with no extra money so has been hard. She does not have medicaid and is 
trying to work one day a week to regain her mobility or strength. So, that 
is the reason I am always asking questions and for places to obtain products 
reasonably. then, make that list and check it twice and hope to order one 
thing. S, here is my question. She has the blue moons and so I know she 
is not properly dispersing the CS and think selenium plays a big role. She 
is also fat and has not been able to lose weight. Now, what is the T3 and T4 
and how do we find out what is needed?? Please be patient with me and help 
me if you can.


By the way, I am s proud of my new distiller my friend purchased for me. 
Just got it. I felt that was very important in making good CS as lots of 
times the water would turn cloudy from using Purified Distilled water from 
the store. I buy the reverse osmosis water from a place that does this in 
town. We live in a small town.

Thanks so much,
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: CShypothyroid


Hi Gina My understanding of the role of Selenium is just the opposite. 
Selenium is the major co-factor for the enzyme 5' diodinase which is 
responsible for the convesrsion of T4 into T3. Studies prove lower 
conversion rates in individuals with low selenium. Other studies reveal 
that increasing selenium is beneficial to the conversion and furthermore 
it reduces the formation of rT3.
Oliveri O, Gerelli et al. Selenium Zinc and thyroid hormones in healthy 
subjects low ratio of t3/t4 in older subjects Biol Trace Elem Res 1996;51 
31-41
Kralik A, Eder K, et al. Influence of Selenium and Zinc deficiency on 
parameters related to thyroid metabolism Horm Metab Res 1996;28:223-226

and several others upon request
I always give selenium and zinc to those with low conversion and my 
experience has been positive.
I also give supplemental Iodine with great care. Excess iodine restricts 
the function of the thyroid.

Frank

--
From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CShypothyroid


Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active
hormone).  Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is 
T4.

So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion
problem, then Selenium will only make it worse.

That is my understanding anyway.  If I can find my source on that I will
post it!
Gina

-Original Message-
From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShypothyroid

Thanks.
PT
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From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: CShypothyroid



Yes PT here ya go:)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine


Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


needling around wrote:

Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list.  I was taking
selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still
ended up with a problem.  At this point I am taking time release T3 for
Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped.
They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the
other.  All of the other things, I do.
Thanks.
PT



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Re: CShypothyroid

2010-03-25 Thread Leslie
Yes. I have kept up with all the testimonies concerning blue moons. We both 
take CS but she was taking much more at a time than me; thinking more was 
better. She had lots of mercury also (I did too) so thought this might play a 
part in not being able to disperse the CS properly. 

If you have any other reasoning, I would love to hear it.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neville Munn 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:33 PM
  Subject: RE: CShypothyroid


  Your snipped quote:
  [She has the blue moons and so I know she 
   is not properly dispersing the CS]
  -Praps you could help me out with this bit here?  Could you elaborate by 
explaining how you came to the decision that EIS/CS caused this?
   
  N.
   
   From: leslie1...@windstream.net
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CShypothyroid
   Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:56:21 -0500
   
   My daughter almost died and I have been nursing her back to health for 
years 
   with no extra money so has been hard. She does not have medicaid and is 
   trying to work one day a week to regain her mobility or strength. So, that 
   is the reason I am always asking questions and for places to obtain 
products 
   reasonably. then, make that list and check it twice and hope to order one 
   thing. S, here is my question. She has the blue moons and so I know she 
   is not properly dispersing the CS and think selenium plays a big role. She 
   is also fat and has not been able to lose weight. Now, what is the T3 and 
T4 
   and how do we find out what is needed?? Please be patient with me and help 
   me if you can.
   
   By the way, I am s proud of my new distiller my friend purchased for 
me. 
   Just got it. I felt that was very important in making good CS as lots of 
   times the water would turn cloudy from using Purified Distilled water from 
   the store. I buy the reverse osmosis water from a place that does this in 
   town. We live in a small town.
   Thanks so much,
   Leslie
   - Original Message - 
   From: Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:28 PM
   Subject: Re: CShypothyroid
   
   
Hi Gina My understanding of the role of Selenium is just the opposite. 
Selenium is the major co-factor for the enzyme 5' diodinase which is 
responsible for the convesrsion of T4 into T3. Studies prove lower 
conversion rates in individuals with low selenium. Other studies reveal 
that increasing selenium is beneficial to the conversion and furthermore 
it reduces the formation of rT3.
Oliveri O, Gerelli et al. Selenium Zinc and thyroid hormones in healthy 
subjects low ratio of t3/t4 in older subjects Biol Trace Elem Res 1996;51 
31-41
Kralik A, Eder K, et al. Influence of Selenium and Zinc deficiency on 
parameters related to thyroid metabolism Horm Metab Res 1996;28:223-226
and several others upon request
I always give selenium and zinc to those with low conversion and my 
experience has been positive.
I also give supplemental Iodine with great care. Excess iodine restricts 
the function of the thyroid.
Frank
   
--
From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CShypothyroid
   
Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active
hormone). Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is 
T4.
So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion
problem, then Selenium will only make it worse.
   
That is my understanding anyway. If I can find my source on that I will
post it!
Gina
   
-Original Message-
From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CShypothyroid
   
Thanks.
PT
- Original Message - 
From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: CShypothyroid
   
   
Yes PT here ya go:)
   
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine
   
   
Annie
   
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
   
   
needling around wrote:
Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking
selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still
ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for
Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped.
They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the
other. All of the other things, I do.
Thanks.
PT
   
   
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Re: CSoff-topic: Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy

2010-03-25 Thread Leslie
And the opposite holds true for me. I enjoy being single so as not to be 
mistreated. Some people do not know real, true love. I am learning as Jesus 
forgave all and He certainly was abused. I am trying.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSoff-topic: Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy


Something fishy here.
Ozone and microbes don't hang together...

Chuck
I love being married.
 It's so great to find that one  special person you want to annoy for
the rest of your  life.

On 3/25/2010 1:18:07 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net)
wrote:

The question I have been wrestling with is how to decide on a good
ozonator.
For everything I have read I have read something just the opposite.
For
example, most come with stone bubblers but then I read that the stone
bubblers break down and develop microbial activity?  If
I'm trying to get
rid of microbes why would I use one of those???
Thanks.
PT


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From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: CSoff-topic: Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy


It depends on what your Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy application is.

If you need a total body equivalent to Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy, the
closest I've
seen is placing the body, except for the head, in a plastic bag
and then piping ozone into the bag. You can buy bags specifically
designed
for this purpose or make your own. The process is scalable, e.g. you could

place just a leg that needs treatment in a bag.

If you are trying to just increase oxygen to the internal tissues in
general, you could use ozonated oils or water. Or hydrogen peroxide
therapy.



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Re: CShypothyroid

2010-03-25 Thread Leslie
Also adding that I have been taking all along also but have no blue moons. So, 
don't think any of us are 100% sure and would like to know for sure. Thanks, 
Lesle
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neville Munn 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:09 PM
  Subject: RE: CShypothyroid


   
  Thanks Leslie, 
   
  No, I'm afraid I don't have any other reasoning for it, although there may be 
a multitude of reasons which only the individual concerned could work out or 
determine.  I just wanted to know how you determined EIS caused it that's all.
   
  N.

   


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  Subject: Re: CShypothyroid
  Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:45:52 -0500



  Yes. I have kept up with all the testimonies concerning blue moons. We both 
take CS but she was taking much more at a time than me; thinking more was 
better. She had lots of mercury also (I did too) so thought this might play a 
part in not being able to disperse the CS properly. 

  If you have any other reasoning, I would love to hear it.
  Leslie



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Re: CShelp for clogged arteries

2010-03-19 Thread Leslie
All I know for myself is cayenne pepper which Dick Quinn spoke about in his 
book Left For Dead. I only have anxiety attacks but when I know one is coming 
on, I immediately go get the red pepper and take 1/3 to 1/2 teas. in an orange 
drink or just my tea (doesn't cover as well) and drink some more behind it and 
then in a little drink water. In less than 30 min. I'm fine. 

Hope this helps.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 9:18 AM
  Subject: Re: CShelp for clogged arteries


  Forgot to add - he already does hydrogen peroxide therapy.

  Cheers
  Kirsteen


  On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kirsteen Wright 
kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi can anyone offer any suggestions or pointers to the archives please. A 
friend of mine (male 60) has recently had a heart attack. The angiogram showed 
one artery completely blocked and the others severely constricted. He will 
probably have a quadruple bypass very soon. He has never smoked, exercises 
regularly and eats a vegan diet.

He is very open to adding in supplements, complimentary therapies and a 
natural approach to the problem. However, surfing the web for advice he feels 
bombarded with sites all promising miracle cures if he just pays £XXX for 
whatever they're selling.

I know there's some really knowledgeable people here. What would you 
suggest he tries. Any advice gratefully received.

thanks
Kirsteen




Re: CS(LL) Is it ok to use DMSO or MSM in a nebulizer with CS ??

2010-03-18 Thread Leslie
I used plain CS in mine and used a few minutes at a time. It did help. Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:51 PM
  Subject: CS(LL) Is it ok to use DMSO or MSM in a nebulizer with CS ??


  Hi all, my brother has a bad case of bronchitis. He just got a nebulizer   
has used it once with CS (EIS). I don't remember reading anything concerning 
the use of both in one
 If it is ok ?? ---how much DMSO or MSM  should be added to the EIS ?? 
Thanks, Lois

Re: CSFW: Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2010-03-16 Thread leslie
Sol, did you say what kind of distiller you had? I am getting ready to 
possibly buy a Love Distiller. Thanks, Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: CSFW: Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)



Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

I was running a couple of time a week.
Now only every 2 to 3 weeks.


Well that explains why I wore mine out sooner, LOL.
I ran mine 7 to sometimes 10 times per week, for over 6 years...
sol


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2010-03-16 Thread leslie
Amazing what you find out when you go back deleting excess mail! Gotta have 
a little laugh sometimes. Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!


music pitch pipe?
Chuck

SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES
ROOM DARKER


On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote:

The shape of the tube is probably very important.

How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?

Dan


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com [link:
mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] wrote:
Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
things. Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
therapies
I've been running into in recent weeks.

Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who 
really needs it. Of course, I don't

want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to
it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic
tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that
would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the
biggest issue.
I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half 
inch at a time until it was 'just

right.'

Cool!

Steve G.


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Re: CSFW: Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

2010-03-15 Thread leslie
My friend is helping me to buy one and she is very conscious concerning that 
plastic that is causing cancer. Don't you think the stainless inside is 
best? Would prefer a glass catch all rather than a plastic but they keep 
wanting more and more money, so may have to settle with getting the 
stainless inside. Which model do you have off that website you gave me? 
Thanks for the help.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil

To: cs silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:41 AM
Subject: CSFW: Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Lowest prices I have seen as low as $65 for distiller
I bought one years ago and it still works great.
Only thing I do not have as some newer models do is a blocker
On intake for steam to keep boiling from splashing into
Condenser. I avoid this by just putting 3 quarts water
Instead of 4.
Bob



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Re: CSVitamin D

2010-03-13 Thread Leslie
Annie, where do you buy a good cod liver oil? I have been reluctant recently 
of buying flax seed oil or others because I read where it is very bad to 
take old oils. Thank you, Leslie
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From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: CSVitamin D


Yeah and tell that to all the grannies that cured out of sorts with a 
good dose of cod liver oil. It worked. Cod liver oil is full of Vit D, Vit 
A, EPA and DHA. I can remember my great grandmother talking about dosing 
her kids with it when they got out of sorts. My grandmother, her 
daughter, said it worked even though she hated the taste.


You can over fo anything, but if you don't get any sun and you're not 
taking vit D or eating liver regularly, or something of that nature. You 
know you're not getting enough vit D.
Vit D has been an overlooked vitamin for a very long time. Everyone has 
been hollering ANTIOXIDANTS! LOL.


Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


slickpic...@cox.net wrote:
By now there must be hundreds of articles and studies (and even more 
personal experiences) that draw the opposite conclusion from the article 
in Science Daily.



 Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote: =
I wouldn't put too much stock in one article just yet.  i'm already a bit 
suspicious of the claim though.  This winter was the first time that me 
and my family have taken a high dose vitamin D supplement.  My wife 
ALWAYS gets at least one cold per winter, and I usually get one or 2.  My 
two little children also had colds last winter.
Well, the only thing we've changed in our supplement routine was adding 
5000 IU for us adults, 2000 iu for the older child, and 1000 iu for the 
baby.  guess what...not one cold or flu at all this year.  And that's 
with the H1N1 scare too.  We took extra high dose  for the first few days 
too to build up D levels.


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Re: CSAnything I can do?

2010-03-13 Thread Leslie
Re: CSAnything I can do?Where are you getting the curcumin and turmeric? I 
bought some turmeric and now would like to get some curcumin. I just heard it 
was curing cancer?? I don't have cancer but don't want to get it nor anyone 
else. 
thanks,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:47 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAnything I can do?


  Donna,

  There is a promising study at 
http://ajpgi.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/296/2/G388
  It shows that curcumin or turmeric can protect the esaphogus against the 
damage caused by GERD. I would suggest taking curcumin or turmeric regularly. 
Esp at night before sleep since most damage happens during sleep.

   - Steve N

  - Original Message -
  From: Donna dscroggs44...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri Mar 12 18:37:45 2010
  Subject: CSAnything I can do?

  I was diagnosed with Barrettes esophagus, I had a scope today and the
  doctor sent off a couple of biopsies. Is there anything I can do to
  cure, stand off, or make better?
  Thanks,
  Donna ACS


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Re: CSVitamin D

2010-03-13 Thread Leslie
That's good and I can think of another way to apply that also. We should get 
it eventually!
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From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSVitamin D


I knew it, I knew it

Chuck
I no longer subscribe to reincarnation.
The renewals were killing me!


On 3/13/2010 2:45:03 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:

Oh for goodness sake--what is going on?  Now I have increased mine and
hubby's levels to 4000 units per day and this article says you can 
actually be worse!  Has anyone (Brooks-help!) *anything* that can dispute 
this, because I am rapidly coming back to the opinion that I should stop 
ALL supplements.  And I've

just sent off for the ultrasonic cleaner too!  Damn!  dee


On 12 Mar 2010, at 23:08, Pat wrote:

 I am 60.  I get over 2,000 units vitamin D a day in pill form.
I'm in the western part of South Carolina, USA at Latitude: 34.8525.

 Two years ago, I hadn't
heard about vitamin D deficiency, but luckily my doctor made me get the 
25-

hydroxy vitamin D blood test and a vitamin B-12 test.  I was astounded
when my vitamin D level was 14.  So, the next summer it was 55, then last
February it was 46.  I'm not taking less than I was last year, but I've
not been able to sit in the sun as much, I guess.
I'm thinking about calling the doctor's office back and asking the nurse
to make sure she read it right.  She was stuttering around about the date,
then she just said
it's normal level.  I said I need to know the number, so she came up with 
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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-12 Thread Leslie

Why do we use laser lights? Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS





Marshall


 What color is the converted brew without the laser light affecting the 
photo?


Ode


From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: carcinoma, March 11, 2010 4:28:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

Here is a link with a picture I just made. It's not very good, I had to 
have the room pretty dark with no flash to even see a hint of the Tyndall 
in the EIS glass.  From left to right, 15 ppm EIS with a pinch of ascorbic 
acid added,  pure15 ppm EIS, distilled water with a pinch of ascorbic acid 
added.


Note that the colors are not true. The laser beam is actually red, but 
appears yellow because it is so overexposed.  Then the reflection of the 
beam off other particles gives the entire left hand glass a red color, 
which is really only red because the laser light is red.  The actual color 
is more of a yellow if white light comes in from the side, but somewhat 
murky due to the large number of particles.  Viewing on a white background 
and illuminated from the rear it is more bluish.


http://silver-lightning.com/ascorbic-cs.jpg

Marshall



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Re: CSSilver Meter

2010-03-10 Thread Leslie
How do I find out about the OdeV distiller? Sounds interesting. Also, would 
like to know what benefit a red laser pointer would have or a green one? Leslie



- Original Message 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 8:44:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter

I distill my own and get perfect results every time i.e 000 on my TDS meter.  I 
have the OdeV distiller which was cheap and is even cheaper in the US.  dee

On 9 Mar 2010, at 22:39, Renee wrote:

 Hey Tel.  Which brand of the water do you buy now at Walmart.  I had a meter 
 and you are right about the Walgreens.  It use to be really good, then got 
 really bad.  But my meter broke so now I can't tell what is going on with the 
 water I buy.  I can't really find any that say steam distilled anymore 
 either.  They all say distilled, or worse, purified.
  
 But I will check to see if our walmart carries the brand you buy when you let 
 me know.
  
 Samala,
 Renee
  


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Re: CSGMO foods

2010-03-07 Thread leslie

That's smart thinking! Leslie
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From: icccmda...@netzero.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSGMO foods


Howdy,

I have stored enough heirloom seeds to plant several acres.

Just Google search heirloom seeds.

Thank You

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Re: CSUpdate on Greg Caton/ altcancer.com

2010-03-07 Thread Leslie
Can you give me an idea of what to write? I'll be glad to help by writing. 
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp

To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:56 PM
Subject: CSUpdate on Greg Caton/ altcancer.com



Here is a link to a call for letters:

http://doityourself-health.com/i/Free-Greg-Caton-from-FDA-tyranny-your- 
help-needed/


The court hearing is on March 17th so there is not much time.

I have from Mr. Caton's wife an address directly to the judge:

Judge Tucker L Melancon
US District Court
800 Lafayette St., Suite 4700
Lafayette, LA 70501

Please pass on the information.   NB the request for polite,  intelligent 
correspondence focused on Greg Caton's products and  educational 
information.





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CSdistiller

2010-03-02 Thread Leslie
would the person who boy distiller off ebay please contact me giving me the 
link. They may not have any more.

thanks,
Leslie

CSSilver wire

2010-03-02 Thread Leslie
I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you 
please sent to me again.

Thank you so much,
Leslie

Re: CSHair Loss - link here

2010-02-21 Thread Leslie
Hi, When I saw Hair Loss I wanted to mention that Utopia is advertising an 
elec. cs generator that makes copper also. I asked just what was copper for 
and I was told it was for hair loss and energy. I would like to know if any 
have any comments on copper. Thanks, Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Donna dscroggs44...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: CSHair Loss - link here



very encouraging!
Thanks,
Donna ACS

I'm posting a link to curezone for a hair growth recipe that seemed to 
work for my wife.


http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1573169#i

Steve
 carolGcgiam...@yahoo.com  wrote:

=
http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/
See below.

carol






From: Annie B Smytheanniebsmy...@gmail.com
To: CS Listsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 10:04:09 AM
Subject: CSHair Loss

Okay, so I found this website while researching DHT and what causes 
elevated levels and the connection with Iodine and the thyroid.  The 
second page talks about the thyroid hormones and Insulin resistance and 
T4 and how it's all related. :)  Very interesting and informative read 
with research and reference links. And although it talk about men mostly, 
I'm sure that elevated levels of DHT in women can cause hair loss as 
well, especially as those who have thyroid problems usually have an upset 
in the hormone balances in the HPA axis.


http://www.freewebs.com/immortalhair/

Annie
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Re: CS Use of copper---

2010-02-21 Thread Leslie
No, not together; they have the copper sticks as well as the Silver ones and a 
voltage meter which I don't know why we need one of those. Lee
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: Re: CS Use of copper---


  In a message dated 2/21/2010 5:05:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
leslie1...@windstream.net writes:
Hi, When I saw Hair Loss I wanted to mention that Utopia is advertising an 
elec. cs generator that makes copper also. I asked just what was copper for 
and I was told it was for hair loss and energy. I would like to know if any 
have any comments on copper. Thanks, Leslie

  I haven't read about copper use yet either... Is it used in combination with 
CS (EIS)  ?   Lois

CSkidney stone

2010-02-21 Thread Leslie
I just talked to a friend in pain with a kidney stone and awhile back there was 
some mention of things to do for them. Does anyone remember?? Thanks, Leslie

Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread leslie
Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not 
sure. I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper



What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?



- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches 
in
1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve 
didn't

belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of
the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper



Leslie,

There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
That should help with figuring it out...

Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

Yes, Zappers work fine.

Dan


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net 
wrote:

Any experiences here on using a zapper?

I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want 
to

buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch.
that
baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a 
water

distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
soon.
Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

Leslie



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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread Leslie
wonder if it would dissolve a tumor? What major things do you feel it either 
got rid of or helped you with?

thanks,
Leslie
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From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:55 AM
Subject: CSzapper


 I too have been using a zapper for about 10 years and will not willingly 
be without one.  pj






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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-12 Thread leslie
I am one of a kind but not that wierd. Leslie
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: CSzapper


  I went to the Andy Warhol museum in Pittsburgh.  Interesting.  There was one 
piece of art there he and a couple others made by peeing on a large sheet of (I 
think) copper.  Some kind of metal anyway.  It's been a while.




--
  From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 12:09:16 PM
  Subject: Re: CSzapper

  It wasn't Andy Warhol - it was Salvador Dali - Surrealist painter.

  John


  On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

Andy Warhol is the guy who painted abstract stuff like clocks oozing over 
the edge of something.  Just weird stuff.  I think he would have enjoyed a 
shirt with a sleeve on the neck and an inside out zipper... :-)




- Original Message 
From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 11:26:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper

Who is Andy Warhol? It was funny messing up like I did but why I am not 
sure. I am thinking that I think too much or ponder on too much detail.
- Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin 
dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSzapper


 What, were you making a shirt for Andy Warhol?



 - Original Message 
 From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 7:36:49 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper

 Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches 
in
 1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve 
didn't
 belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of
 the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL

 - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
 Subject: Re: CSzapper


 Leslie,

 There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
 That should help with figuring it out...

 Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
 1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

 Yes, Zappers work fine.

 Dan


 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net 
wrote:
 Any experiences here on using a zapper?

 I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
 have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want 
to
 buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch.
 that
 baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a 
water
 distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one
 soon.
 Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

 Leslie


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Re: CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread Leslie
I always use Peroxide and then thruout the day and night put CS in the ears. 
Peroxide kills the infection but you just put a drop of two in there and let it 
work its way on into the ear canal. Don't do too much as would probably bother 
her. Even a drop would help from time to time.
Leslie 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gina Moore 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:29 PM
  Subject: CSear infection


  So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection.  I don't do doctors, but I am 
a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her ears are infected.  
Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a cup), plus Vit D, cod liver oil, 
etc.  I try to do natural remedies as much as possible!

   

  What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard of putting Hydrogen Peroxide 
in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she's only 3 and may not do that 
well!  I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture - any particular ratio that 
seems to work best?  Or is there some other remedy that would work well?  I'm 
up for anything at this point!

   

  Thanks so much!

  Gina

   


Re: CSear infection

2010-02-12 Thread Leslie
Do you have a heating pad? After you put the luke warm oil in, let her lay on a 
slightly warm pad and betcha she goes to sleep. 
Let us know tomorrow, ok? Be praying in the meantime for her. Bless her heart!
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: kath 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:25 PM
  Subject: RE: CSear infection


  I've used garlic/mullin oil from the health food store for ear infections.  

  Kathy

   

  From: Gina Moore [mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net] 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:30 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSear infection

   

  So, it seems my daughter has an ear infection.  I don't do doctors, but I am 
a nurse and have an otoscope and can clearly see that her ears are infected.  
Anyway, I give her CS everyday (about ¼ to ½ a cup), plus Vit D, cod liver oil, 
etc.  I try to do natural remedies as much as possible!

   

  What can I do for her poor ears?  I have heard of putting Hydrogen Peroxide 
in the ears and letting it sit for a bit, but she's only 3 and may not do that 
well!  I have DMSO and could do a CS/DMSO mixture - any particular ratio that 
seems to work best?  Or is there some other remedy that would work well?  I'm 
up for anything at this point!

   

  Thanks so much!

  Gina

   


CSzapper

2010-02-11 Thread Leslie
Any experiences here on using a zapper? 

I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I have 
to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to buy some 
by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch. that baffled me. 
Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water distiller also 
and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one soon. Gets expensive 
buying the gallons and the quality stinks. 

Leslie

Re: CSzapper

2010-02-11 Thread leslie
Geez. that makes me feel really stupid. I should know there are 12 inches in 
1 foot. I was also pretty good at sewing once I figured out a sleeve didn't 
belong on the neck and a zipper had to be zipped on the outside instead of 
the inside. was perfectly sewed in though. LOL


- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: CSzapper



Leslie,

There are 12 inches in 1 foot.
That should help with figuring it out...

Maybe you prefer metric measurements.
1 inch is 2.54cm.  Round it out to 2.5cm per inch.

Yes, Zappers work fine.

Dan


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:

Any experiences here on using a zapper?

I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I
have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to
buy some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch. 
that

baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water
distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one 
soon.

Gets expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks.

Leslie



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Re: CSzapper

2010-02-11 Thread Leslie
thank you. I went to the ebay site and was wondering if the one you got was the 
Love Distiller, the new one they are showing on this page? I think on the Love 
site it is 159.00 but not sure. That is better on ebay but with 20.00 shipping. 
Love includes the shipping and the cleaner and filters. 

Thanks again,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: poast 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CSzapper


  Hello Leslie,

  I can't help you with the zapper, but this site is supposed to be a good 
source for silver wire

  http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html

  I just picked up this distiller

  
http://cgi.ebay.com/WATER-DISTILLER-Distillers-NEWST-MODEL-ON-MARKET_W0QQitemZ160396293280QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSmall_Kitchen_Appliances_US?hash=item25585d34a0

  I am quite happy with it.  To get pure water you have to remove the charcoal 
filter in the spout, but other than that it works as advertised.  I am double 
distilling and am ending up with water with 0.4 uS which is purer than I get at 
the store.

  When you get around to picking up a distiller get back in touch with me and I 
will give you directions on how to double distill.

  Tom
- Original Message - 
From: Leslie 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:26 PM
Subject: CSzapper


Any experiences here on using a zapper? 

I am still trying to figure out the best way to get the silver I need. I 
have to get those clip things from Utopia for their generator but want to buy 
some by the foot. Checked on one company but they sell by the inch. that 
baffled me. Anyway just takes me awhile to figure out. Would like a water 
distiller also and have for a couple of years; hopefully can get one soon. Gets 
expensive buying the gallons and the quality stinks. 

Leslie

Re: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #161

2010-02-06 Thread Leslie
the ACS brand of CS or your silvergen generator? Who taught you how to make 
your CS if I might ask? Was wondering if I am using the right tester or if 
there is one better?

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Goodwin 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:13 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #161


  It cured my lyme, and my wife's, and the guy's who taught me how to make CS, 
and hosts of other people he has cured...

  Dick




--
  From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 11:18:28 PM
  Subject: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #161

  I'm dealing with late stage lyme disease and babesia. I have a 
  silvergen and have used silver for 20 years for infections like bladder 
  or lung infections. I've been hearing about silver for lyme, but it's 
  the doctor who developed the ACS brand of silver who's saying it can 
  kill lyme. I've always heard silver won't eradicate lyme. I'm wondering 
  if you think it can reduce my bacteria load, and the protazoan load 
  (babesia). 

  If so, is ACS better than other brands? Or is there a better brand? Or 
  is my silvergen silver as good? 

  Thanks! 




Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-06 Thread Leslie
No farmers market here and just one grocery store. LOL You got room for all of 
us when things get really rough? LOL
  - Original Message - 
  From: sol 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:22 PM
  Subject: RE: CSbromine in breads


  At 08:07 AM 2/6/2010, you wrote:


 Go to the freekin farmers market and meet those that grew it and make 
stuff THEY want to eat.
 Hey, they're bunch of braggards, with good cause.

  Hey Ode, where I live there aren't any farmers markets* and one cannot grow 
enough food to be more than a nice fresh treat during the very short season. I 
do grow very nice egyptian onions and chives though. The onions are so hardy I 
will be able to start cutting some in late March. The ONLY thing I've ever 
found that will start growing that early and is not much affected by frost.  

  We used to get people who would bring up tomatoes, peppers, peaches, apples, 
corn, onions, etc from Colorado or Utah and set up in various parking lots, but 
they don't come here anymore. Well, one very seedy group came here last year, 
but I wouldn't fish their stuff out of a dumpster for free, forget paying for 
it. 
  The grocery store produce (of any kind) is gawdawful. 
  The nearest whole foods type market is a 340 mile RT. 
  sol

  *there is a thing that claims to be a farmer's market that is held one day 
a week in late summer early fall for 4 hours a day, but it sells crafts, not 
much produce. 

Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-05 Thread Leslie
How do you get contaminated collodial silver salts? Could I have gotten 
contaminated silver?? Maybe I am doing something wrong in making it. Perhaps 
I should start all over in learning just how to do all this.
- Original Message - 
From: poast po...@prodigy.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?



Hello Steve,

I am totally new to EIS, so please be gentle with me...

Your opinion seems to be that the best use EIS is to maintain a level in 
the
body through daily use.  You also indicate that you don't think that a 
large

dose of EIS is effective.

As I ponder this I find myself finding it difficult to understand.  It 
would

seem that if your body was invaded by a bunch of bad guys they would
overwhelm the good guys in your body, and an influx of a large good 
guy

army would help win the war.

I know this is over simplified, but isn't the idea to expose the bad 
guys

to a concentration of the EIS?

I am probably missing a lot, but any big picture concepts would be 
greatly

appreciated.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?


Sunny,

On the face of it, this would seem to be an easy question to answer but it
is not. If I was asked that by someone my question back to them would be 
how
long and how often do you intend to use it and what ppm is your CS? And 
what
type of CS are you using? If they are using silver nitrate or a mild 
silver
protein (MSP), I would advise them to not use any. If they are using what 
we
call EIS, made by running a current between 2 silver electrodes in 
distilled

water or a colloidal silver (CS) consisting of small silver particles
suspended in water, I would give the following answer.

BTW, this is only my opinion and others may have different opinions. Much 
of

my reasoning is based on my interpretation of the Altman Silver Excretion
Study and my understanding of how silver is excreted from the body. There 
is

no universal agreement in these areas, esp. in the interpretation of the
Altman Silver Excretion Study.

If you use it infrequently and for short periods you can take large
quantities of either. But EIS is inherently more tolerant of excess 
silver.

If it is short enough and infrequent enough it is almost a don't care. But
there is no therapeutic value in taking large amounts in my opinion.

If  the person is going to take it daily for the rest of their life, I 
would
recommend limiting it to 3.5 oz of 10 ppm EIS daily, or less. If the EIS 
is

a higher or lower ppm, they should change the amount taken to account for
the difference in ppm. For CS they should follow the manufactures
recommendations but take no more than the amount you would use for EIS of
the same ppm. For either EIS or CS, holding the silver in the mouth for 5 
to
15 minutes before swallowing allows as much as 10% of the ionic silver to 
be
absorbed through the mucosal tissues and those ions are the most 
effective.

If someone wants to use more than 3.5 oz of 10 ppm EIS per day, I would
recommend that the additional amounts only be held in the mouth for 10 to 
15
minutes and then spit out the silver and not swallow it. [1] In my 
opinion,

you should follow these recommendations for infrequent, short term use as
well. I am not convinced that taking large amounts of CS or EIS even for a
short periods is more effective than these lesser amounts, esp. when using
EIS. There may possibly be some additional benefit to taking more CS,
because the silver particles in CS may not be as effective as ionic 
silver,
and perhaps that can be partially overcome by use of more CS. But again, 
the

amount must always be within reason.

The amounts I recommend for long term daily use equates to around 1 mg of
silver per day and is the amount of ionic silver that the liver can 
process

in a day. This ensures that there is no significant backlog of silver
waiting to be eliminated from the body. EIS is somewhat unique in that
excess amounts of EIS will also be eliminated through the kidney. To my
knowledge, no other ionic silver has this property. This characteristic of
EIS makes it very tolerant of taking too much EIS and makes it safer to 
take
and not get argyria. But even EIS has limits. The one person I  know of 
that

got argyria from using EIS was taking daily amounts of EIS that were
equivalent to over 10 times the amount I recommended above and even then 
it

took 8 years for the argyria to appear. That person was taking amounts of
silver that significantly exceeded the excretion capacity of both the 
liver

and the kidney.



[Note 1]   Just for this list, I would also suggest that if one needs to 
use
amounts of EIS in excess of 1 mg per day, that an effective method of 
doing

so would be to take the first 1 mg as EIS and additional 

Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-05 Thread leslie
Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?I buy my distilled water 
from walmart or grocery store; wish I had my own distiller but other things 
more important right now. I do not add salt. I don't know the difference in EIS 
or CS but all I learned was to make CS and I test to 10 ppm. I don't mess with 
getting it to go faster. Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?


  I you use distilled water with no additives I wouldn't be concerned.

   - Steve N

  - Original Message -
  From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri Feb 05 12:19:33 2010
  Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

  How do you get contaminated collodial silver salts? Could I have gotten
  contaminated silver?? Maybe I am doing something wrong in making it. Perhaps
  I should start all over in learning just how to do all this.



Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

2010-02-05 Thread leslie
Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?thank you Steve and Dick. I 
feel a lot better about making it now. Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Goodwin 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?


  That sounds fine.  That's what I do as well.  I don't think there is any 
difference between CS and EIS for purposes of this forum.  

  EIS is Electrically Isolated Silver, which is a form of CS, with around 
10-20% colloidal silver particles, and 80-90% ionic silver particles, which I 
understand are AgOH.

  CS is what most people call EIS.  In fact the only place I have heard EIS is 
on this forum.  The rest of the world calls it CS.  EIS is more accurate, I 
believe, only because there are other ways to make CS, such as from 
nano-silver-powder, which apparently involves no electricity.  So I suppose 
it's good to distinguish them by using the abbrev EIS.

  Dick




--
  From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 2:13:49 PM
  Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

   
  I buy my distilled water from walmart or grocery store; wish I had my own 
distiller but other things more important right now. I do not add salt. I don't 
know the difference in EIS or CS but all I learned was to make CS and I test to 
10 ppm. I don't mess with getting it to go faster. Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?


I you use distilled water with no additives I wouldn't be concerned.

 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri Feb 05 12:19:33 2010
Subject: Re: CSmoon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?

How do you get contaminated collodial silver salts? Could I have gotten
contaminated silver?? Maybe I am doing something wrong in making it. Perhaps
I should start all over in learning just how to do all this.



Re: CSbromine in breads

2010-02-05 Thread Leslie
There are still a few places selling the good seed. If interested I'll see if I 
can't find out for you. I wish I was where I could plan and prepare a little 
but not at this time. Have pine trees and wanting to move! Duh. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Neville Munn 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:03 PM
  Subject: RE: CSbromine in breads


  And the saddest thing about that is...THIS and COMING generation/s will NEVER 
know what quality fruit, veg and meat IS.
   
  I think it may be just as well I won't be around for too many more years, I 
doubt I could suffer a *whole* lifetime of the garbage they flog nowadays 
passed off as the real thing.  Not forgetting that Genetically Mutated stuff.  
And my family keep asking me why I'm so grumpy?  I can't even grow self sown 
stuff anymore cos the seeds are 'self terminating' or whatever they term it.  
Dependance is what it's all about, we are becoming more DEPENDANT every day 
for our livelyhood.
   
  Who knows? praps a future generation WILL kill for some quality edible food!  
I know I feel close to it g.
   
  We *NEED* EIS to get at least ONE mineral or whatever, we certainly don't get 
much from what we buy nowadays.
   
  P.S. Praps you shouldn't have replied sol, got me going again slapping 
head.  Where's that grim reaper got to? or the muzzle.
   
  It's alright Boss, I'm going now.
   
  N.
   

--
  Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:20:07 -0700
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
  Subject: RE: CSbromine in breads

  At 06:09 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:

Quite the contrary...I *know* you're spot on!
 
Off Topic, just to vent:
 
Supermarkets DICTATE what we eat and DICTATE what consumables we use cos 
they ONLY stock certain stuff, and NO competition cos they've driven 
competition out of existance...NO choice anymore...s, not only do they 
DICTATE what we pay for stuff, they ALSO dictate WHAT we consume, and/or WHAT 
products we use.  

  I joke that soon my family will be buying everything from Amazon and other 
online sellers. There is no variety available here. None of the chains will 
special order anything, so if they don't have it and you need it, online is the 
only way. No independent groceries, no small mom and pop groceries, no asian or 
other specialty shops. Just the 3 chains, and they all carry the same stuff. 
  sol 

--
  Sell your old one fast! Time for a new car? 

Re: CScancer and baking soda

2010-02-04 Thread Leslie
What are your ideas to rid one of cancer or even cancer developing? I am 
taking fluconazole for 14 days to rid of fungus. That is all I know that I 
have, but was worried that cancer was developing.

Thanks,
leslie3...@windstream.net
- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:18 AM
Subject: CScancer and baking soda





  Cancer is not a fungus, it is  a DNA replication malfunction that can be 
triggered by numerous things.
There is much evidence that weaker cancer cells cannot live in an alkaline 
environment and Baking Soda is a Base [alkaline] substance.
While it is probable that a fungus cannot live there either, the fungus is 
not the cancer.


 The Zapper doesn't electrify the blood as some claim.
 As with making CS, electron transfer in a liquid [aka electrical 
current], is carried out by chemical reaction chains with charged state 
ions carrying the electrons around...it's not like electrons bumping each 
other down a wire.


Applying DC current to a bucket of salt water via electrodes that don't 
emit their own ions produces Hypochlorous Acid on one pole [ a germicide 
and fungicide..oxidizer] and Sodium Hydroxide...[a base.] on the other 
pole.

 Your blood is a bucket of salt water.

 Where you put which electrode controls where what chemical is produced.
 How much power applied controls how much chemical.
 When the two chemicals meet as blood circulation mixes them together, 
they make salt again.
 For more direct targeting, one could insert a thin platinum or similar 
inert metal probe into a feeder vein.


There is also such a thing as electrical inductance using magnetic fields 
and radio waves...electromagnetics.
 Beamed radio waves can be aimed to converge and/or timed by frequency to 
pulsate with a sympathetic resonance to create hot spots where 
electrical current can be induced with more power focused there than  on 
any of the entry pathways.


If sound canceling tech can be tweeked to make a speaker in mid 
air...[and it can]


Get the idea?

Ode


At 02:13 PM 1/1/2010 -0800, you wrote:
The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung 
cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his 
videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was 
curing stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger 
to the cancer industry.


If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it 
should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it 
I would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.


By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, 
about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and 
bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, 
so cannot claim it was cancer.


Dick

- Original Message -
From: mailto:kmartjo...@aol.comkmartjo...@aol.com
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Fwd: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken 
CS.


IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal 
Aspergillus. It is treated using
compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester 
have found that the fungus has

been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious 
Diseases, showed that 13 out of
14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to 
therapy and that numerous mutations

were responsible.



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Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Re: CS.we donapos;t KNOW what would have happened had we NOT 
taken CS.


fungal_disease.pdf



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Re: CShair loss causes

2010-02-03 Thread leslie
Thanks Peter, when the list was discussing Gatoraid, I knew they put 
recently added bromine and that it was bad for you but I couldn't remember 
where I heard it nor prove it so I stayed quiet. Hope the others read this.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca

To: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: CShair loss causes



Hi Shirley,

That was a good summation of what I have come to believe about iodine and 
the other halogens as well...well said!


Peter

- Original Message - 
From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: CShair loss causes


  Since chlorine is known to replace iodine in our bodies and have a 
deleterious effect on intestinal health (where 70 to 80% of our immune 
systems are located!) this has to be suspected as part of the reason for 
the increase of the incidence of baldness in both men and women.  So 
filtering our water (shower water too )should perhaps be a priority for 
each of us.   Also, much of our water is fluoridated.  This also replaces 
iodine in our bodies so we may need to get rid of that too.   Since 
bromine in bread (since the early 1980's, commercial bread products use a 
bromine based dough conditioner instead of the formerly used iodine 
containing one), and bromine will also drive out iodine, then we may need 
to take action here also.  All three of these -- chlorine, fluoride, and 
bromine--- drive out our beneficial iodine, and themselves have very bad 
effects on us.  We are increasingly bombarded with these and have a 
reduced intake of iodine as well.  So the
stage is set for poor endocrine gland function (think thyroid gland 
though they all influence each others functioning).   Well,  I didn't 
mean to write a book, but it is really terrible what is being done to 
people just through ignorance and undue reliance on authorities to 
regulate what we eat and drink.  Just my opinion and none of this should 
be construed as advice of any kind since I have no certificates or 
degrees of any kind in nutrition or medicine.  But I have a computer and 
a brain and all the above can be checked out.  It takes pretty strong 
conviction based on sufficient knowledge to take action regarding iodine 
since so many regard it as poison.  Sorry for the length of this post. 
Best wishes, pjps I added the 'may's and 'perhaps' after rereading 
this.  No Gestapo for me I hope.






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Re: CShair loss causes

2010-02-03 Thread Leslie

Added question:  Is chlorine what is produced through MMS?
- Original Message - 
From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca

To: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: CShair loss causes



Hi Shirley,

That was a good summation of what I have come to believe about iodine and 
the other halogens as well...well said!


Peter

- Original Message - 
From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: CShair loss causes


  Since chlorine is known to replace iodine in our bodies and have a 
deleterious effect on intestinal health (where 70 to 80% of our immune 
systems are located!) this has to be suspected as part of the reason for 
the increase of the incidence of baldness in both men and women.  So 
filtering our water (shower water too )should perhaps be a priority for 
each of us.   Also, much of our water is fluoridated.  This also replaces 
iodine in our bodies so we may need to get rid of that too.   Since 
bromine in bread (since the early 1980's, commercial bread products use a 
bromine based dough conditioner instead of the formerly used iodine 
containing one), and bromine will also drive out iodine, then we may need 
to take action here also.  All three of these -- chlorine, fluoride, and 
bromine--- drive out our beneficial iodine, and themselves have very bad 
effects on us.  We are increasingly bombarded with these and have a 
reduced intake of iodine as well.  So the
stage is set for poor endocrine gland function (think thyroid gland 
though they all influence each others functioning).   Well,  I didn't 
mean to write a book, but it is really terrible what is being done to 
people just through ignorance and undue reliance on authorities to 
regulate what we eat and drink.  Just my opinion and none of this should 
be construed as advice of any kind since I have no certificates or 
degrees of any kind in nutrition or medicine.  But I have a computer and 
a brain and all the above can be checked out.  It takes pretty strong 
conviction based on sufficient knowledge to take action regarding iodine 
since so many regard it as poison.  Sorry for the length of this post. 
Best wishes, pjps I added the 'may's and 'perhaps' after rereading 
this.  No Gestapo for me I hope.






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Re: CShair loss causes

2010-02-03 Thread leslie
Thank  you. Do you feel that it is totally safe and will destroy the cancer 
cells? I have been looking for something that will do this. Seems lots of 
things you could try but geez would like to know first if possible. I 
realize that if it was proven there would be a flood of people using it. 
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: poast po...@prodigy.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: CShair loss causes



Hello Leslie,

MMS is a high concentration sodium chlorite solution.  It has a PH of 
around

12.  When you add an acid to lower its PH, it forms a chlorous acid
solution.  Sodium chlorite is also known as stabilized chlorine dioxide.
When the PH is lowered and the chlorous acid is formed, some of the
available chlorine dioxide is released in the solution as free chlorine
dioxide.  The stronger the acid used, the lower the PH falls, and the more
of the available chlorine dioxide is released as free chlorine dioxide in
solution.

Chlorine dioxide is much different than chlorine.

However, when exposed to UV light, chlorine dioxide breaks down to 
chlorine

and hydrochloric acid (acid rain).

To answer your question, not usually.

Tom

- Original Message - 
From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: CShair loss causes



Added question:  Is chlorine what is produced through MMS?
- Original Message - 
From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca

To: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: CShair loss causes


 Hi Shirley,

 That was a good summation of what I have come to believe about iodine

and

 the other halogens as well...well said!

 Peter

 - Original Message - 
 From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:03 PM
 Subject: CShair loss causes


   Since chlorine is known to replace iodine in our bodies and have a
 deleterious effect on intestinal health (where 70 to 80% of our immune
 systems are located!) this has to be suspected as part of the reason

for

 the increase of the incidence of baldness in both men and women.  So
 filtering our water (shower water too )should perhaps be a priority 
 for

 each of us.   Also, much of our water is fluoridated.  This also

replaces

 iodine in our bodies so we may need to get rid of that too.   Since
 bromine in bread (since the early 1980's, commercial bread products 
 use

a

 bromine based dough conditioner instead of the formerly used iodine
 containing one), and bromine will also drive out iodine, then we may

need

 to take action here also.  All three of these -- chlorine, fluoride,

and

 bromine--- drive out our beneficial iodine, and themselves have very

bad

 effects on us.  We are increasingly bombarded with these and have a
 reduced intake of iodine as well.  So the
 stage is set for poor endocrine gland function (think thyroid gland
 though they all influence each others functioning).   Well,  I didn't
 mean to write a book, but it is really terrible what is being done to
 people just through ignorance and undue reliance on authorities to
 regulate what we eat and drink.  Just my opinion and none of this

should

 be construed as advice of any kind since I have no certificates or
 degrees of any kind in nutrition or medicine.  But I have a computer

and

 a brain and all the above can be checked out.  It takes pretty strong
 conviction based on sufficient knowledge to take action regarding

iodine

 since so many regard it as poison.  Sorry for the length of this post.
 Best wishes, pjps I added the 'may's and 'perhaps' after rereading
 this.  No Gestapo for me I hope.





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Re: CShair growth Craig

2010-02-03 Thread Leslie
Are ya'll saying Iodine might detox from mercury, aluminum and rid of cysts 
or tumors??
- Original Message - 
From: Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: CShair growth Craig



Hi PJ,

I ramped up to 75mg fairly quickly (and suffered with detox for a good 
while), and stayed there until tests were at an acceptable level (~8mths), 
then moved down to 25mg, which I continue to take...most days...but always 
12.5mg per day though:)  Total time elapsed has been a couple of years.  I 
don't think I was as toxic as a lot of folks.


I don't know how to make a comparison between Iodoral and Lugol's however. 
That would require Marshall or someone else:)


When you refer to cysts, I presume you are talking about fibrous cysts?

My wife's fibrous breast cysts melted in about two weeks @50mg/day.

If I have overlooked anything thump me again:)

Regards,

Craig

Shirley Reed wrote:
   Congratulations, Craig!  I am also curious as to your dose.  I take 10 
drops (at least) of 5% Lugol's every day and frequently 15 or more. At 10 
drops that gives 650 mgs. per day.  But I am noticing that if I stay at 
that dose for a few days, then cysts begin returning, so I guess I will 
go to 15 drops per day and see what happens.  I know I have lots of 
things to detox from, aluminum being one I am very interested in getting 
rid of.  Loads of mercury too from previous dental debacles.  I consider 
silver fillings to be unethical in an absolute sense.I have also 
noticed that my hair grows like crazy so it needs cutting more often. 
The lady who cuts it always remarks about how healthy it is.  I am glad 
you reported your results because extraordinary experiences are often 
challenged and it feels good to have some back-up.  :)   pj





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Re: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-01-30 Thread Leslie
Hi, I'm a little behind time due to email servers, but Neville you had 
mentioned earlier that there was the possibility of sulphur re CS and the 
blue moons. Did you find that again? Was wondering if my daughter might have 
been taking some sort of pill that had sulphur in it??

Also, if EIS and CS is both silver, is the only difference in the particle 
size or is there a difference in the making of it also? I am making CS.

Hey, thank you.

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neville Munn
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:35 PM
  Subject: RE: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!


  Ammonia.

  N.


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  Subject: Re: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!
  Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:21:05 -0600
  From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com


  What is his theory?
  - Steve N



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  From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sat Jan 30 17:15:45 2010
  Subject: RE: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!


  Steve, I meant to thank you for those questions you put on here a couple 
days ago.

  Don't know if you've read Stuart Thompson's hypothesis regarding stomack 
acid and silver, unfortunately the whole story is unavailable, but what 
little remains available in the public domain of a discussion on the subject 
is a very good teaser, but at this point in time, given the limited 
information available, I believe I'm running with his theory.

  N.

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  Subject: Re: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!
  Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:24:28 -0600
  From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com

  [That EIS forms silver chloride in the stomach is considered argumentative 
by some but I think it is clearly the case. ]


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CSUnsubscribe

2010-01-26 Thread Leslie
I am getting duplicate messages. Leslie

Re: CS Check out The Cancer Answer

2010-01-25 Thread Leslie
Thank you. I watched a little as I was getting ready to leave yesterday. Went 
there late last night and again this morning and it is unavailable. Geez. I 
missed most of it. Do you know if it is anywhere else??
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: martsmai...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:52 AM
  Subject: CS Check out The Cancer Answer






Click here: The Cancer Answer 

CSBuying Silver

2010-01-25 Thread Leslie
Someone on here told where they were buying their silver and I seem to have 
lost that info. Could you or anyone on here give me some advice on buying good 
silver at a decent price??

I seem to always be making my lists and checking it twice and then starting all 
over. Does anyone else feel that they need s much but cannot afford to get 
everything you need?? Just occasionally order a couple of things; have a 
generator and guess it will do if I get some silver to last at least through 
the bad times coming.

Thanks for all your patience!

Leslie

Re: CSImportant question about reducing atherosclerosis

2010-01-25 Thread Leslie
Is there a link to copy-the book Practicing Medicine Without a License?? 
Original Message - 
  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:00 PM
  Subject: Re: CSImportant question about reducing atherosclerosis


  Hello John, 

  Interesting data.  Where did you find that?  

  Thank you,

  Jim


  On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:48 PM, John E. Stevens 
jonellis.steven...@gmail.com wrote:

When Linus Pauling was 90 years old, he was taking 18 grams of Vit C daily. 
 Hmmmnnn.  In a urination test, he only urinated off 15%.  Hmmmnnn...  The rest 
wasw going to work...

John



On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote:

  Read: Practicing Medicine Without a License  Owen Fonrow 

  Linus Pauling. Minimum 3 GRAMS C  per day keeps the arterial plaque away. 


  On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Jonathan B. Britten 
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

Thanks for this link.  I printed the book and read it.   I think very 
highly of it.





On Friday, Jan 1, 2010, at 11:18 Asia/Tokyo, Dan Nave wrote:


  Read this e-book

  http://jkant2001.tripod.com/EAT_TO_LIVE.pdf

  You would have to change your diet...

  Dan

  On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:02 PM, G Baldwin baldwin6...@comcast.net 
wrote:

List members,

I hope someone can help me.  I have moderate blockage in carotid 
artery.
 Left ear pulsing sound caused by the restriction is very 
distracting and
seems to get louder with time.  Can anyone suggest a protocol that 
I could
try to reduce the build-up in the arteries?  I am concerned about a 
stroke.
 Any helpful suggestions will be very greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Gordon


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Re: CSBuying Silver

2010-01-25 Thread Leslie
No, was thinking it was something with initials like GC ?? Thanks for your help.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CSBuying Silver


  Hi Leslie,
  Were you thinking of www.atlasnova.com for the silver?
  Debbie




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  Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 1:47:09 PM
  Subject: CSBuying Silver


  Someone on here told where they were buying their silver and I seem to have 
lost that info. Could you or anyone on here give me some advice on buying good 
silver at a decent price??

  I seem to always be making my lists and checking it twice and then starting 
all over. Does anyone else feel that they need s much but cannot afford to 
get everything you need?? Just occasionally order a couple of things; have a 
generator and guess it will do if I get some silver to last at least through 
the bad times coming.

  Thanks for all your patience!

  Leslie



Re: CShelp for cracked vertebrae

2010-01-25 Thread Leslie
Did you listen to that tape sent to us called The Cancer Answer?  He talked 
about building up the immune system and he did mention a balanced food product 
that would give everything you need. This ought to make him feel better each 
day; better and better. Speak and believe positively. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:43 PM
  Subject: CShelp for cracked vertebrae


  My mom just called and my poor 80 year old dad has been diagnosed with a 
cracked vertebrae in his lower back...any suggestions on supplements that may 
help with the healing? Or is surgery the only answer?
  Thanks in advance folks,
  Debbie



Re: CSFwd: Colloidal Silver Banned in Europe,

2010-01-24 Thread leslie
Ode, please note that a christian is supposed to be Christ like but not all 
are. Perhaps the word might be hypocrite. Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: CSFwd: Colloidal Silver Banned in Europe,



At 12:17 PM 1/23/2010 -0500, you wrote:
You need to open your eyes, too, ode.  You're not aware of what's 
happening onlky namecalling.  How small is that?


John



  You don't know our years long history
..We've had some communications about this and other things over the 
yearsBIBLE thumping liar and weasel


Barwick quotes scripture when he gets cornered, says *I'm running a 
BUSINESS here and you're just small fryI spend hundreds of thousands 
on advertising*like that justifies everything and I give a hoot about 
getting big, never actually HELPED a competitor, or just because a LOT of 
people get ripped off believing his bullsh*t, it's all just fine. [At the 
time, he was selling his stuff for $400+ and making impossible claims 
about what it did ]


 Ya know.. if he was actually honest, he'd not have to spend a dime on 
advertising.  Word of mouth is a bit slower, but is far more powerful in 
the long run.


Barwick emailed me directly in an email spam campaign.
Had he not, I'd not have bothered with him..[again]...I'm actually 
surprised that he responded.

But not surprised at how.

 An unequivocal statement Colloidal silver has indeed been banned 
throughout Europe.  ...then buried in a 3 part text, a denial of making 
that statement.
 But why would I even bother to read all that crap when sources *In the 
UK* say the original statement isn't true? [It's not that I can't read..I 
DIDN'T read past the screamers, having checked out the original statement 
before getting the spam and knowing beforehand there wasn't anything there 
worth reading ]
..and also having had words with that turkey in the past...actually nice 
helpful ones..an offer to help him make his ad copy make some sort of 
sense so he didn't look like an idiot to anyone with any sort of 
scientific acumen.. turned rotten with a venomous stream of sociopathic 
god-speak in reply.
..which makes it clear that his ad copy was **intentionally** conflicted 
confusing carefully crafted misleading nonsense... a Phishing expedition 
to intentionally select the gullible and intellectually defenseless. 
[It's not that he can't write nonsense as well as any slime lawyer ]


 My ex brother in law used to brag about making a fortune selling very 
expensive Encyclopedias to illiterate people that could barely afford to 
eat...so yea, a bit of a raw nerve there concerning con men and 
professing Christians doing business using religion as a base ball bat 
to beat down any protest from a burned believer.


BTW  My Bro in Law later turned himself into a Morman married the daughter 
of one of the elders and moved to Boise ...good luck Mormans. [Mind your 
pockets, there be a shark swimming around in the lint. ]


Ode


[The SPAM]
Hi, Steve Barwick here, for 
http://www.TheSilverEdge.comwww.TheSilverEdge.com...




Colloidal silver has indeed been banned throughout Europe.



Ive verified it through my contacts in Europe, which include Europes most 
respected health freedom organization, the ANH. ...


From: odecoyote  [The reply]

Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:13 AM
To: Steve Barwick
Subject: Re: Colloidal Silver Banned Throughout Europe, Part II


  My sources in the UK say that CS is still being sold there and that 
only the labeling requirements have changed.
It can no longer be sold as a Supplement and is now sold under the more 
accurate heading of disinfectant, like in Australia for the past many 
years.


But thanks for the dis-information and the sales pitch.

ken






At 04:53 PM 1/17/2010 -0800, you wrote: [the response]
I said it has been banned as a food supplement, ken, and it has.  No 
disinformation.  You just have to be able to read above a third grade 
level.




Steve


Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:33:08 -0500  [..you turkey.]
To: Steve Barwick stevebarw...@sbcglobal.net

Subject: RE: Colloidal Silver Banned Throughout Europe, Part II

 Sales speak that requires such close inspection is clearly intentional 
deception in the context of the intentional fear 
triggers.manipulator.
Truth intended to be understood doesn't require lawyers to figure it out 
OR careful reading.

 An honest person doesn't need fine print.
Slick salesman...the second worst sort of liar.

Colloidal silver has indeed been banned throughout Europe.  is a LEAD.. 
to a mis-lead...'Bait and Switch   no way around it, con man.


Clearly Stated in a non manipulative manner: Europe has changed the 
labeling requirements for the sale of CS from being sold as a 
supplement It is still being sold in stores.


Anything less clear is intentional dis-info... jackass.
and you KNOW it.

It's tough enough

Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake

2010-01-24 Thread Leslie
john, what type magnesium is ok to take. I got magnesium chloride as was 
recommended by Dr. Sircius (?) nurse when I had mercury poisoning. Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: John E. Stevens 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:24 AM
  Subject: Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake


  hi, Simeon:

  I give blood every 56 days.  The Red Cross always test my iron levels which 
are usually around 10 - 12, normal they say.  I enjoy giving blood because it 
not only helps the Red Cross and many people, but it gets any excess iron out 
of my system and gets my spleen working making new blood.  A couple days after 
I give blood I have a new and fresh abundance of energy which I attribute to 
the fresh, new blood.  Imagine how wonderful creating a fresh new pint supply 
of blood every 56 days is.In 35 years of taking immense amounts of vitamin 
C, I've never had any problems with iron.  
  It only takes me a little over 5 minutes to give a pint of blood - which is a 
very quick time - especially for an old-timer like me.  Most folks, even young 
folks,  take 8 - 12 minutes to give a pint of blood. What does that mean?  My 
arteries and veins are clean and my blood flows very well.  Vit C also helps to 
clean your veins and arteries out, but I also use chlorella, zeolite, pectasol 
and EDTA to clean my circulatory system (Vit E, CoQ10, resveratrol, L-Lyceine, 
too). I deem they're all important.  Chlorine is dangerous to the circulatory 
system, too. I haven't drunk tap water in many, many years.  There's a deep in 
the ground, free flowing spring a short ways down my road where I draw my water 
and store in GLASS - not plastic...  Ha... It's the water I drink and cook in.  
I also put a chlorine filter in my shower so I don't inhale any chlorine 
steam.  Chlorine puts little scratches inside your veins and arteries which 
cholesterol patches like a band-aid and after years and years of cholesterol 
patches, folks wonder why their veins and arteries plug-up.  Hmmmnnn.  Other 
bad food sources help the plug-up, too.  Fairly obvious, isn't it?  
  In my last message to you, I was going to mention additional supplements I 
take - MSM, hyaloronic acid, Magnesium, glucosamine without chondroitinn, 
natto, probiotics, NAC, prostate support, ginko, and there are others I'll 
mention later.  I've been taking supplements for over 35 years and I've added 
and subtracted as new info came along.


  2010/1/24 muk...@mail.bg

Hi John, group,

I have read that Vit C increases iron uptake and you know excess iron could 
be a problem.

Did some of you taking vit C had increased iron in blood tests ? Is 
liposomal C better in this sense ?

Simeon

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Re: CSperiodontal infected gum disease - now ppm sizes

2010-01-23 Thread leslie
Ode, what is your recommendation for testing your CS? I was told 10 ppm was 
a good one to stay with on a meter sent by Utopia.

Thanks,
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: CSperiodontal infected gum disease - now ppm sizes


Thanks Ode.  Do you think it will do any good to run the meter on, or is 
this unnecessary?  dee


On 23 Jan 2010, at 15:56, Ode Coyote wrote:




Ions are in solution and are all that registers on a meter.
Cold water has a lower saturation point to maintain a solution..ions go 
colloidal and don't register on a meter.
If those colloidal particles are still very very small, even a laser 
won't show them as TE.

The silver is still there.

PPM meters don't measure PPM...and all you have is a good guess under 
certain conditions based on conductivity

Temperature is one of those conditions.

Ode






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CSJim Holmes

2010-01-23 Thread Leslie
would you tell me please why your email is CIA?? Hope that is a pun. I wouldn't 
admit it. 


Leslie

Re: CSJim Holmes

2010-01-23 Thread leslie
what is intel op? I have recently gotten all my mail over to gmail but have 
noticed lots of problems. Duh. Well, got lots of work to move but seems Yahoo 
has their problems also. 

Sorry, I didn't mean to pry into your business but it really took me by 
surprise and know they just cannot be believed.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:00 PM
  Subject: Re: CSJim Holmes


  Google is not CIA, it is a much deeper and all pervasive intel op.  Look into 
it. 

  Wikipedia is a mixed bag; lots of great and useful info, and much dark spin. 
  A lot of research has been done on these issues.  I do not have it close at 
hand.  I use that in my mail to help bring forth this point of view. 

  Jim 


  On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:

would you tell me please why your email is CIA?? Hope that is a pun. I 
wouldn't admit it. 


Leslie



Re: CSMare with Possible Melanomas in Mouth

2010-01-22 Thread leslie
The link doesn't work. I had called them re pricing and they never told me 
they had their generators buy one/get one free. Or was it just on their 
supplements they sell? Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: cyndiann cyndia...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: CSMare with Possible Melanomas in Mouth



oasisgr...@aol.com wrote:
Thank you very much ... do you have a recommendation for purchase?  What 
kind to get?


http://www.utopiasilver.com/new-customers/

They have a deal where you buy one, get one free for first time customers 
and it is a very highly rated cs as well.


Cyndi


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Re: CSMare with Possible Melanomas in Mouth

2010-01-22 Thread leslie
Humm. My computer is ugh. Sometimes takes 3 to 4 hours to get up and running. 
Must be that. I'll just put in utopia silver. 

Thanks,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryAnn Helland 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:54 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMare with Possible Melanomas in Mouth


  Leslie -- the link worked for me.  They're not selling generators BOGO -- 
it's their silver supplements that are on sale.
  MA




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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 12:51:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMare with Possible Melanomas in Mouth

  The link doesn't work. I had called them re pricing and they never told me 
  they had their generators buy one/get one free. Or was it just on their 
  supplements they sell? Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: cyndiann cyndia...@earthlink.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:10 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMare with Possible Melanomas in Mouth


   oasisgr...@aol.com wrote:
   Thank you very much ... do you have a recommendation for purchase?  What 
   kind to get?
  
   http://www.utopiasilver.com/new-customers/
  
   They have a deal where you buy one, get one free for first time customers 
   and it is a very highly rated cs as well.
  
   Cyndi
  
  
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CScopper

2010-01-22 Thread Leslie
Can you make the copper solution using any electric cs generator? I have an old 
one and don't know how to get in touch with the man I bought it from. Thanks,
Leslie

Re: CSppm

2010-01-22 Thread Leslie
Is the silvonic electric or battery operated? Would you send a link on this 
please? 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 4:18 PM
  Subject: Re: CSppm


  Thanks Dee, I am sitting here with the generator going... and spraying my 
teeth intermittently with oil of oregano solution... I just can't stress how 
important lists like these are... and of course, as someone said, don't rush 
off and do stuff if it doesn't feel right... but as I already liked the idea of 
oregano.. that's great.. to have ratification..

  I just can't wait till I have my CS... a few hours and whoo...

  thanks to all who helped... I got a silvonic one in the end.. finances 
dictated that the 219 for the silvergen was just beyond me.. and that said, I 
feel abundant in many other ways...

  with love and thanks to all who responded to all my queries
  sunny x



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  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 2:21:26 PM
  Subject: Re: CSppm

  It doesn't really matter sunny, they will all work.  If you have something 
badly wrong the higher ppm might work better, but this is not an absolute.  You 
wouldn't want it higher than 30ppm except for short term use maybe. It doesn't 
seem to be something that is absolutely controllable either. dee 


  On 22 Jan 2010, at 18:24, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:


Well, it wasn't the last...

Please can someone explain all the complexities around ppm. I am worn out 
with reasearching and clicking and thought someone here must just know it...

I can set my generator from 5ppm to 20ppm.. What is the difference and when 
would I want to use 5 or 20?

thanks
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Re: CSdental caries

2010-01-22 Thread leslie
Sounds intense! personally, I use soap and have for years since I read Dr. 
Judd's book on Good Teeth, Birth to Death. Not bad, just look for your favorite 
taste. LOL It kills bacteria and only takes a min to brush unlike ones with 
glycerin which is sticking to the teeth and you have to brush extra to clean it 
off. 

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryAnn Helland 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 6:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CSdental caries


  Okey-dokey -- here you go:

  Calcium Carbonate
  Stevia Leaf Extract
  Xylitol
  Hydrogen Peroxide
  Golden Seal Extract
  Gingko Biloba
  Ginseng Extract
  Echinacea Extract
  Spearmint Leaf Oil
  Sorbitol
  Purified Water
  Hydrated Silica
  Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate
  Sodium Magnesium Silicate
  Cellulose Gum

  Don't ever ask me to do that again -- the print on the tube is so small that 
my eyeballs are now resting somewhere on my cheekbones!!!  lol
  MA




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  From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca
  To: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net; silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 2:34:33 PM
  Subject: Re: CSdental caries


  Hi MaryAnn,

  Can you tell us the ingredients of Coral White toothpaste? I couldn't find 
them on the web page.

  Many thanks,

  Peter
- Original Message - 
From: MaryAnn Helland 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: CSdental caries


Coral White -- which you can buy at the HFS, or by going to 
www.coralcalcium.com.
MA





From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 1:10:28 PM
Subject: RE: CSdental caries

Could you tell me what type of toothpast you use? I have been using a 
godzilla on an abscess issue in addition to a violet ray, global wellness 
machine, sauna and sole. Also from my dentist, he gave me a remedy that I rub 
on my gums and thymus.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com



 


Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:49:51 -0800
From: marmar...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: CSdental caries
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


Well -- I can tell you what I did.  At the recommendation of another list 
member here, I bought a Godzilla unit and used it to treat the cavity (which is 
really an infection in the tooth).  That killed the infection.  Then I bought a 
toothpaste designed to remineralize teeth.  I'll be darned if it didn't work!  
However -- mine was a reallly small cavity, and I don't know if that makes a 
difference.
MA





From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 12:22:14 PM
Subject: CSdental caries


Hey, all you magic helpers..here's another query from me...

I have a cavity and can't go to the dentist.  Is there anything I can do 
and might CS help?  I thought I was helping by spraying store bought cs [which 
I mixed with oil of oregano in the bottle and probably destroyed the silver???] 
into my cavity... 

much appreciated and think that's all for now...
smiles
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Re: CSdental caries

2010-01-22 Thread leslie
I'm glad someone else is a little crazy. LOL I am perfectly satisfied with 
the soap and occasionally gargle with Hydrogen Peroxide which kills germs 
and bacteria. I also spray with CS from time to time. Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSdental caries



At 05:33 PM 1/22/2010, you wrote:
Sounds intense! personally, I use soap and have for years since I read Dr. 
Judd's book on Good Teeth, Birth to Death. Not bad, just look for your 
favorite taste. LOL It kills bacteria and only takes a min to brush unlike 
ones with glycerin which is sticking to the teeth and you have to brush 
extra to clean it off.


I use soap also and have done for most of the last several years. I had 
finally found a few toothpastes that had no ingredients I was allergic to, 
or so I thought, but I was breaking out with acne around my chin and 
mouth, and the blemishes would not heal even with CS/DMSO. Finally I 
remembered reading years ago that the cause could be an allergy to 
something in the toothpaste one was using. I immediately went back to 
soap, the blemishes healed and I've not had any more develop.

sol

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CSmaking copper and/or gold

2010-01-21 Thread Leslie
Would like to get  your input on producing copper and gold. Would you be able 
to do this with any electric generator?

I checked into Utopia's new electric generator and you can make silver or 
copper with it but not sure if it takes a special generator for the copper and 
also for gold?
thanks,
Leslie

Re: CS Low stomach acid

2010-01-21 Thread leslie
This is interesting; never thought about having too little acid. My daughter 
has quite a bit of trouble and think perhaps I should try the Betaine Hcl. Will 
places like Puritans Pride hav it or do you have to get at a special place? 

Thanks,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Jones 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:05 PM
  Subject: Re: CS Low stomach acid


  You can have it tested by a lab, altho I never did.  There's also a home 
test, which I also never tried (just found out about it today):

http://www.drdebe.com/stomachacidtest.html


  On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:57 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

But Harold -- and Alan too -- how do you know if you're one of the 80% who 
do not have excess stomach acid, or one of the 20% who do?
MA





From: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net
To: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 11:54:49 AM

Subject: Re: CS Low stomach acid



Alan;
I did this protocol approx 15 years ago,  my memory is not perfect;but,I 
remember it did not take long ,maybe two weeks.At the same time, as I repeat, a 
big change in my diet has kept the effect active to this day.This also helped 
me lose a lot of weight too.That bottle of Betaine HCL lasted me a long time .I 
would take a capsule once in a while to see the effect and it was not needed.
The bacteria Heli-cobacter Pylori burrows into the stomach lining and has 
the ability to emit and surround itself with sodium-bi-carbonate ,which as we 
know is highly alkiline,neutralizing the HCL acid in the stomach.Using acid 
blockers,Tums,etc., is pure insanity in one of its' truest forms.
I know,because I went down that road to my detriment.

Harold
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Jones 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:36 AM
  Subject: Re: CS Low stomach acid


  Harold, about how long did this whole process take?  I began taking 
Betaine Hcl in December and I no longer get GERD.

  Alan





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  Alan Jones


Re: CS Low stomach acid

2010-01-21 Thread Leslie
I found betaine hydrochloride tablets 499 mg tablets at putitans. Isthis what I 
want or is there something better? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: leslie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: CS Low stomach acid


  This is interesting; never thought about having too little acid. My daughter 
has quite a bit of trouble and think perhaps I should try the Betaine Hcl. Will 
places like Puritans Pride hav it or do you have to get at a special place? 

  Thanks,
  Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Jones 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: CS Low stomach acid


You can have it tested by a lab, altho I never did.  There's also a home 
test, which I also never tried (just found out about it today):

  http://www.drdebe.com/stomachacidtest.html


On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:57 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

  But Harold -- and Alan too -- how do you know if you're one of the 80% 
who do not have excess stomach acid, or one of the 20% who do?
  MA




--
  From: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net
  To: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 11:54:49 AM 

  Subject: Re: CS Low stomach acid



  Alan;
  I did this protocol approx 15 years ago,  my memory is not perfect;but,I 
remember it did not take long ,maybe two weeks.At the same time, as I repeat, a 
big change in my diet has kept the effect active to this day.This also helped 
me lose a lot of weight too.That bottle of Betaine HCL lasted me a long time .I 
would take a capsule once in a while to see the effect and it was not needed.
  The bacteria Heli-cobacter Pylori burrows into the stomach lining and has 
the ability to emit and surround itself with sodium-bi-carbonate ,which as we 
know is highly alkiline,neutralizing the HCL acid in the stomach.Using acid 
blockers,Tums,etc., is pure insanity in one of its' truest forms.
  I know,because I went down that road to my detriment.

  Harold
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Jones 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: CS Low stomach acid


Harold, about how long did this whole process take?  I began taking 
Betaine Hcl in December and I no longer get GERD.

Alan





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Re: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer

2010-01-18 Thread Leslie
Just saw this and last night I was reading off IMVA site, the doctor in Brazil 
and he had some very interesting info. Send me your email and I'll forward to 
you. Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Scotty 
  To: Silver List 
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:55 PM
  Subject: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer


I have a good friend that found out last week he has stage four cancer 
in one of his tonsils that has spread to the surrounding lymph nodes. He is 
going to Stanford this week for 8 weeks of radiation and chemo. Is there 
anything else he can alternatively do? They have given him 2 to 6 months to 
live if this treatment doesn't work.


Scotty

Have a great day!

 

   



Re: CSQuestion about diabetes:COMMENT TO MARSHALL.

2010-01-18 Thread Leslie
I am getting ready to order some ALA so can you tell me where she is getting 
hers. Wonder if it makes much difference? Puritans Pride has it.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: CSQuestion about diabetes:COMMENT TO MARSHALL.


Thank you for the information. I just checked and she is getting 200 mg 
per day in her Blood Glucose Success supplement from Solaray.  I will 
see if I can get her to take some additional ALA.


Once again, thanks for the information.

Marshall

Brooks Bradley wrote:

Hello Marshall,
Some weeks ago I had intended to mention this item to you. I know it is a 
challenge for your wife to ingest
such a variety of substances in her diabetes program...but I would 
STRONGLY ENCOURAGE you to consider including alpha lipoic acid
in the basic regime. My reasons include: the VERY POWERFUL modulating 
effects of ALA on both the liver and the pancreas;
the immune system modulation benefits; the glucose level stabilization 
characteristics; the rapid relief characteristics involving peripheral 
neuralgia occurrences; the splendid improvements in magnifying the 
benefits of vitamin C and E (circulating in the system); plus, 
accomplishing these activities in a toxin-free manner. No other, single, 
element we have EVER evaluated approaches the direct, positive, benefits 
of ALA on the general health and functional performance of the pancreas 
and liver---as did the addition of this substance into all of the 
diabetic-support protocols being actively researched. One of the most 
pronounced benefits of ALA presented from its splendid aid in stabilizing 
against dynamic fluctuations in circulating glucose levels. In some 
cases, the improvement in insulin demand was strikingand large 
excursions ( especially overshoots) became rare, or disappeared 
altogether.immediately (within days), after including ALA in the 
research met! hodology.
We found 400 to 500 mg of ALA daily.to be an effective prophylactic 
dosage for a majority of participating volunteers...in our 
experimental evaluation studies.

Warmest Personal Regards, Brooks.

p.s. ALA demonstrated to be the centerpiece, not a peripheral 
influence.. within the arena of our research

involving adult-onbset Type II diabetes.






















-[ Received Mail Content ]--

*Subject : *Re: CSQuestion about diabetes

*Date : *Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:33:16 -0500

*From : *Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

*To : *silver-l...@eskimo.com



Carlene Yasak wrote:

 To Marshall and other contributors to the list,



 An alternative treatment for diabetes was mentioned some time back

 that was very interesting. I seem to remember that one of the posts

 concerned Marshall's wife. I can't find it in my silverlist
file. If

 anyone remembers this, could you please post it again and bring
us up

 to date on any further developments.



 Thank you for this and also for all the many posts on this list

 explaining how things work and sharing your experiences. It's very

 helpful.



 Blessings to you all,

 Carlene





My wife was taking two diabetes medicines, one at night which
increased

insulin sensitivity, and one in the morning that increased insulin

production. She no longer takes the one in the morning, but is still

taking the one at night. She hopes to eventually get off the one at

night. This is what she has done:



2 months of chelation

takes a glucose enhancer that contains things like cinnamon when
she eats

Is taking Agaricus Blazei when she eats

Takes serrapeptase (more for blood pressure than glucose though) and

magnesium/calcium in the mornings

lost around 50 pounds



It is hard to say what has and has not helped since she started
many at

the same time. Her fasting blood sugar is typically running
between 90

and 130 now upon awakening.



Marshall







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Re: CSDMSO

2010-01-18 Thread Leslie
I have used it with no side effects like you mentioned. I would put on my 
fingers and rub over a small tumor on my upper arm.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Jason chemtrail_...@yahoo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: CSDMSO


I have been using DMSO for over a year now with wonderful results.The 
problem is I had some DMSO residue on my hand.Without thinking that a small 
amount would cause any problems.I started to do some house cleaning with 
Ajax and I used some Goo gone to remove a label off a nice jar I wanted to 
keep.Anyway the next day my hand was all dried out and hurt like nerve 
damage.So I have tried aloe and what not to get the skin back to normal 
which has been very slow to heal process.But anyway the real problem now is 
my finger tips are going numb late at night.And it is very hard to get the 
circulation back in my fingers.My girl friend massages my for arms for me 
now because the pain has migrated up my for arms to my joint in my elbow. 
There she says she feels a spider web of goo like there is were the crap is 
conjugating. Is this stuff that was uptaked into my body trying to move to 
my liver for body elimination?Has anyone had any bad experience with DMSO. 
I'm

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Re: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer

2010-01-18 Thread Leslie
I got the link to send for you to check out. He also has a clinic in Florida. 

Hope this helps. I've been reading his stuff now for over a year.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Scotty 
  To: Silver List 
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:55 PM
  Subject: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer


I have a good friend that found out last week he has stage four cancer 
in one of his tonsils that has spread to the surrounding lymph nodes. He is 
going to Stanford this week for 8 weeks of radiation and chemo. Is there 
anything else he can alternatively do? They have given him 2 to 6 months to 
live if this treatment doesn't work.


Scotty

Have a great day!

 

   



Re: CSQuestion about diabetes:COMMENT TO MARSHALL.

2010-01-18 Thread leslie
Hey thanks as I was fixing to order the Chromium Piclionate.
  - Original Message - 
  From: John E. Stevens 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 1:45 PM
  Subject: Re: CSQuestion about diabetes:COMMENT TO MARSHALL.


  Organic whole food GTF Chromium (not Chromium Piclionate) will help to 
reverse Diabetes in about a year.  Should see some improvement within two 
months.

  John


  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:

I am getting ready to order some ALA so can you tell me where she is 
getting hers. Wonder if it makes much difference? Puritans Pride has it.
Leslie
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: CSQuestion about diabetes:COMMENT TO MARSHALL.



  Thank you for the information. I just checked and she is getting 200 mg 
per day in her Blood Glucose Success supplement from Solaray.  I will see if 
I can get her to take some additional ALA.

  Once again, thanks for the information.

  Marshall

  Brooks Bradley wrote:

Hello Marshall,
Some weeks ago I had intended to mention this item to you. I know it is 
a challenge for your wife to ingest
such a variety of substances in her diabetes program...but I would 
STRONGLY ENCOURAGE you to consider including alpha lipoic acid
in the basic regime. My reasons include: the VERY POWERFUL modulating 
effects of ALA on both the liver and the pancreas;
the immune system modulation benefits; the glucose level stabilization 
characteristics; the rapid relief characteristics involving peripheral 
neuralgia occurrences; the splendid improvements in magnifying the benefits of 
vitamin C and E (circulating in the system); plus, accomplishing these 
activities in a toxin-free manner. No other, single, element we have EVER 
evaluated approaches the direct, positive, benefits of ALA on the general 
health and functional performance of the pancreas and liver---as did the 
addition of this substance into all of the diabetic-support protocols being 
actively researched. One of the most pronounced benefits of ALA presented from 
its splendid aid in stabilizing against dynamic fluctuations in circulating 
glucose levels. In some cases, the improvement in insulin demand was 
strikingand large excursions ( especially overshoots) became rare, or 
disappeared altogether.immediately (within days), after including ALA in 
the research met! hodology.
We found 400 to 500 mg of ALA daily.to be an effective prophylactic 
dosage for a majority of participating volunteers...in our experimental 
evaluation studies.
Warmest Personal Regards, Brooks.

p.s. ALA demonstrated to be the centerpiece, not a peripheral 
influence.. within the arena of our research
involving adult-onbset Type II diabetes.






















   -[ Received Mail Content ]--

   *Subject : *Re: CSQuestion about diabetes

   *Date : *Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:33:16 -0500

   *From : *Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com


   *To : *silver-l...@eskimo.com




   Carlene Yasak wrote:

To Marshall and other contributors to the list,

   

An alternative treatment for diabetes was mentioned some time back

that was very interesting. I seem to remember that one of the posts

concerned Marshall's wife. I can't find it in my silverlist
   file. If

anyone remembers this, could you please post it again and bring
   us up

to date on any further developments.

   

Thank you for this and also for all the many posts on this list

explaining how things work and sharing your experiences. It's very

helpful.

   

Blessings to you all,

Carlene

   

   

   My wife was taking two diabetes medicines, one at night which
   increased

   insulin sensitivity, and one in the morning that increased insulin

   production. She no longer takes the one in the morning, but is still

   taking the one at night. She hopes to eventually get off the one at

   night. This is what she has done:



   2 months of chelation

   takes a glucose enhancer that contains things like cinnamon when
   she eats

   Is taking Agaricus Blazei when she eats

   Takes serrapeptase (more for blood pressure than glucose though) and

   magnesium/calcium in the mornings

   lost around 50 pounds



   It is hard to say what has and has not helped since she started
   many at

   the same time. Her fasting blood sugar is typically running
   between 90

Re: CSQuestion about diabetes:COMMENT TO MARSHALL.

2010-01-16 Thread Leslie
Why would you add alpha lipoic acid? Does this metabolize sugar similar to 
chromium picolinate?  My daughter is struggling now with blood sugar getting 
too high.

Thanks,
Leslie

- Original Message - 
  From: Alan Jones 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 9:59 AM
  Subject: Re: CSQuestion about diabetes:COMMENT TO MARSHALL.


  Hi Brooks, any suggestions on which brand of ALA, or brands to avoid?

  Alan


  On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Brooks Bradley brooks76...@lycos.com wrote:

Hello Marshall, 
Some weeks ago I had intended to mention this item to you. I know it is a 
challenge for your wife to ingest 
such a variety of substances in her diabetes program...but I would STRONGLY 
ENCOURAGE you to consider including alpha lipoic acid 
in the basic regime.


  -- 
  Alan Jones


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