[SLUG] Wireless card.
I am about to have an adsl2+ broadband service connected. I have a Belkin Wireless G Router. Is there a suitable wireless card for a desktop that is sure to be OK for all or most flavours of Linux? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lost + found.
No luck, Tony. Just tells me there is no such file. I wonder if I may have accidentally reformatted it when I was using qtparted earlier, losing my files in the process. Thanks for the suggestion. John. Tony Sceats wrote: have you tried fsck'ing it? try inserting the drive, unmounting it (if it automounts) and then `fsck /dev/sdb1` or whatever the device/partition is, (which should show up in `dmesg` after inserting it) depending upon the type of file system, your milage may vary On 1/20/07, *john gibbons* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a flash drive that will no longer open and shows only a 'Lost + found' file response. I tried opening it as root via the GUI but it says it is empty. Have I lost all my files or is there some way around this? Any help appreciated even if it is bad news. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Lost + found.
I have a flash drive that will no longer open and shows only a 'Lost + found' file response. I tried opening it as root via the GUI but it says it is empty. Have I lost all my files or is there some way around this? Any help appreciated even if it is bad news. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fedora 6 movies
Bingo Matt!! Your referral to http://www.fedoraforum.org/ worked. There is a thread there with detailed instructions. I tested the result with a protected movie and it ran without any problems. Also thanks to everyone else who offered suggestions. John. Matthew Hannigan wrote: Sorry John, I haven't tried doing this sort of thing myself, nor have I ever tried Kaffiene. You might try on Fedora forums: http://www.fedoraforum.org/ Matt On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 07:02:14AM +1100, john gibbons wrote: Thanks Howard and Mathew. Libdvdcss is now installed but Kaffeine is telling me I do not have the appropriate plugins to run protected movies. Any advice about what they might be and where they are hiding to avoid my presence? John. Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 12:52:01PM +1100, john gibbons wrote: I am having no luck trying to download and install libdvdcss2. Anyone done any better? What have you tried? libdvdcss is in livna, and as far as I can tell, that's the same thing as libdvdcss2 rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-6.rpm yum install libdvdcss Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fedora 6 movies
Thanks Howard and Mathew. Libdvdcss is now installed but Kaffeine is telling me I do not have the appropriate plugins to run protected movies. Any advice about what they might be and where they are hiding to avoid my presence? John. Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 12:52:01PM +1100, john gibbons wrote: I am having no luck trying to download and install libdvdcss2. Anyone done any better? What have you tried? libdvdcss is in livna, and as far as I can tell, that's the same thing as libdvdcss2 rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-6.rpm yum install libdvdcss Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fedora 6 movies
I am having no luck trying to download and install libdvdcss2. Anyone done any better? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
I have been using Unwired in Sydney for most of the year. Provided you check out reception quality in your area, which you can do via their website, it is a good service and about 99.5% reliable. John. hav wrote: Nathan: I wouldn't want to be you, being the only yank - oh the what that you shall cop! ;-0 However, If you're asking around you'll probably be told to ignore UnWired. However, if you only operate within Syd or Melb, then its actually a lot more reliable than most Sydneysiders know. I think they've given up advertising so much up there, however this is the Unwired story as far as I can gather: They started up in Sydney, and cover that town however a lot of dropouts gave them a bad name. Where I live, Melbourne, they use Nathan Buckley (AFL star) to promote and bc they had their teething probs up north, they're growing quite well. I don't know what else you would use if you don't have a landline - any comments on it? I don't know about default ports, but this is what I know so far. I'm sharing a landline and don't stray too far outside the CBD but I'd appreciate any other suggestions? Henz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Programming language
My needs would be pretty simple I think, Sonia. For example, producing a self scoring questionnaire - I am a semi-retired psychologist. It would be mostly text related stuff. I am wary of a technical overload where I would not use much of the power of a programming language anyway. John. Sonia Hamilton wrote: * On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 08:37:06AM +1100, john gibbons wrote: What would be the easiest programming language to learn? Important variables: (1) my technical knowledge of Linux is limited though I love the philosophy of openness and (2) I am 80 years old, so at my age 'simple' also implies 'soon'. Not being pessimistic about my life span, but a race is on. As other people have said it depends ie it depends on what you want to use it for. I'm now more of a sysadmin than a programmer, so I use shell scripting for most stuff - dirty, but quick. Also means as I get better as using the command line, my shell scripting gets better, and vice versa. When I need the heavy guns for a sysadmin task, I use Perl or Python, depending on which library I want to use, or which language the example I'm copying is written in :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Programming language
Many thanks for the trouble you have gone to, Sonia. Sounds about right. I had a quick look at the references you supplied and experienced only mild insecurity instead of the usual outright horror, so it should be a practical solution. John. Sonia Hamilton wrote: * On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:26:44PM +1100, john gibbons wrote: My needs would be pretty simple I think, Sonia. For example, producing a self scoring questionnaire - I am a semi-retired psychologist. It would be mostly text related stuff. I am wary of a technical overload where I would not use much of the power of a programming language anyway. OK. As you've probably seen on this list, if you ask 2 Linux people a question, you'll get 3 answers :-) Others have suggested using PHP and a database - good for a bigger program but you want a simple text program, so let's stay with shell scripting - nice and easy for beginners. I'll give you a brief intro on how to write your program, but you'll need to read up to get more understanding. Dave Taylor has written an ongoing column in Linux Journal about using the shell to write a simple blackjack card game - print out all his articles (in reverse order) from this web page: http://www.linuxjournal.com/user/801564/track. Also there's a nice (longer) tutorial by Machtelt Garrels here: http://tille.xalasys.com/training/bash/. First step is how to store your questions. Other people suggested a database - the right thing for experienced programmers but it'll make things too complicated for you. Let's save your questions in a file that looks like this: $ cat questions.txt 1:Which of these is a fruit? a) a brick b) an apple c) a shoe:b 2:What colour is a golf ball? a) red b) blue c) white:c Each line in the file is a question and answer. Each line in the file is divided up into fields, using the colon : character as a separator. Field 1 is the question number, field 2 is the question + choices; field 3 is the answer. Here's an example of a simple program that would print out the questions and answers: $ cat program #!/bin/bash while IFS=: read qnumber question answer ; do echo Question number $qnumber echo $question echo $answer echo done questions.txt The first line (#!/bin/bash) says we're using bash for the script. The second line (while IFS=: ...) says read variables in from the file questions.txt (referenced on the last line with 'done questions.txt'). The IFS=: says use a : to separate out fields in the file). I then print the variables (referred to using dollar signs) using the echo command and double quotes Copy all the above to a file and save it. Make it executable (chmod u+x program), then run it (./program). Voila - your first program: $ chmod u+x program $ ./program Question number 1 Which of these is a fruit? a) a brick b) an apple c) a shoe b Question number 2 What colour is a golf ball? a) red b) blue c) white c All this is explained in lots more detail in the two web references mentioned above. The example poker programs will show you how to ask the user for a question, do maths to calculate a score, etc, etc. After that you'd probably want to assign a weight to each question (in another field), keep a running total of the score, put the answers into separate fields, and so on and so on... Hope this helps, good luck! -- Sonia Hamilton. GPG key A8B77238. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Programming language
What would be the easiest programming language to learn? Important variables: (1) my technical knowledge of Linux is limited though I love the philosophy of openness and (2) I am 80 years old, so at my age 'simple' also implies 'soon'. Not being pessimistic about my life span, but a race is on. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fedora extras
Thanks to all - I will give it another shot. Oh for a one click download, one click install heaven! John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] vym - cool mind map application
You might also like to try Freemind, Kdissert and Labyrinth. I have found that some mind mapping tools suit one's style of working and complexity of the task better than others. I started mind mapping in the late 60s and still do it. Highly recommend the practice. John. Ken Foskey wrote: I just wanted to mention vym (View your mind) which is a graphical mind map application. It is really easy to use and you can quickly build a mind map to clarify your thoughts. Once installed it sits in the accessory group in applications. I have been using this a couple of days and it really does help breaking down a program, working out a specification, work through objectives for that pay rise meeting with your manager :-) If you have read about mind maps try this little application. Thanks Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Mepis 6.0
Doug and Andreas, Thanks for your suggestions. Just before I got your emails I stumbled on a solution - it was not a technical answer to the problem, just an experiment that paid off even though I do not understand why. I was just about to give up on Mepis and was running another version of Linux as dual boot with Windows. Then I wondered what would happen if I inserted the Mepis DVD before switching off and then tried a reboot. It worked. I have no idea why. Maybe it has something to do with an install on a dual boot machine? Earlier I had no problems installing Mepis from the same DVD on an old box that was not running two systems. So, if anyone else has the same problem it might be worth a try. Regards, John. Andreas Fischer wrote: Does the keyboad lock up? (cap/num lock won't turn on or off is a good indication) If not, press Ctrl + Alt + F1, and check the diagnosos for more hints. Hope this helps - Andreas On 11/14/06, John Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attempted install of Mepis 6 live cd on my Dell Inspiron laptop but all I got was the message 'Loading stage2' and nothing further happened. Any suggestions welcomed. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SimplyMepis 6.0
I attempted install of Mepis 6 live cd on my Dell Inspiron laptop but all I got was the message 'Loading stage2' and nothing further happened. Any suggestions welcomed. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SuperKaramba
I have SuperKaramba installed in Dapper but cannot find a way to run it. It does not show up in the GUI application lists but the package manager tells me it is there. How does one get it out into the open? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Pushy Windows
Any help here would be appreciated. I had XP and Dapper working together on a partitioned drive. XP decided it would not boot any more because of a missing file. So I reinstalled it on its own previous drive partition leaving Ubuntu's untouched. Now on boot up I am offered only this unattractive choice: I can select XP or I can select XP. Yes, it lists itself twice. No other option. Can I do something to get Ubuntu back as an option at boot up time or must I now reinstall it? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Dapper Drake
Sridhar, Is EasyUbuntu installed on top of Dapper or is it a separate distro? John. Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 15:41, John Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest you go back to the earlier version of Ubuntu where it all works like a charm. It works with the previous Kubuntu as well. I am only a desktop user and definitely not technically sophisticated. But I have been installing the regular upgrades of most of the popular distros and have come to the conclusion it is a waste of time chasing them and the associated headaches of getting them do what you want.. So now I have settled for being a version behind but running all the stuff I like including the libdvdcss dependent. If there is a sudden leap forward by a distro that I feel I can't live without I may again be sucked into the continuing upgrade game. But, in the meantime everything works nicely. It works very well with Dapper for me. Considering the extra effort that has gone into Dapper when compared to Breezy (the previous version), it's generally safe to say that you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you don't use Dapper. That applies to both quality assurance and functionality. EasyUbuntu allows you to quickly and easily install so-called 'restricted' packages just by ticking a few boxes. There's no need for fancy commands or searching through thousands of packages in Synaptic/Adept. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Dapper Drake
I suggest you go back to the earlier version of Ubuntu where it all works like a charm. It works with the previous Kubuntu as well. I am only a desktop user and definitely not technically sophisticated. But I have been installing the regular upgrades of most of the popular distros and have come to the conclusion it is a waste of time chasing them and the associated headaches of getting them do what you want.. So now I have settled for being a version behind but running all the stuff I like including the libdvdcss dependent. If there is a sudden leap forward by a distro that I feel I can't live without I may again be sucked into the continuing upgrade game. But, in the meantime everything works nicely. John. Gerald wrote: Many thanks to you and Luke for replying so quickly. I have set up all the repositories,but Synaptic replies saying it cannot get all the info. Then if i search for, transcode, i am told that if cannot be installed since it depends upon about 9 files which cannot be installed!! Libdvdcss respond not at all, i cannot locate it. Any futher help, Guys? Should i try KUbunu? or does it not make any difference? I is on a Compaq Presario, B3800, and is working with the wireless network just fine. One other thing, I don't appear to have any sound. Any thoughts? Gerald On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:27 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 07:54, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you tell me if libdvdcss is available for Ubuntu 6.02? It isn't, but you can get this and more quite easily through EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] KD Wallet tyrrany.
I am having problems with KDE Wallet in Suse 10. It will not let me configure my printers, claiming I am putting in the wrong password. It is a new install. I was particularly careful when putting in my original password and use the same one for all desktop work. So I know it is not a typing error. Can I get rid of Wallet altogether? I only used it in the first place because of its nagging window. If I can't get rid of it how can I get back to square one and start again or will a complete reinstall of Suse be necessary? Help would be appreciated. In the meantime printers stand idle other than for Open Office which, bless its heart, does let the printers work with it. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Tyrrany of KDE Wallet
Having now adopted Suse 10 as my everyday distro I find KDE Wallet is rejecting my password and refuses access to configure my printers. Somehow I have stuffed it up since I use the same password for everything other than internet communications. Open Office prints nicely but things such as Help instructions or internet pages will not. Is there someway I can get free of the tyrrany of Wallet and delete the thing altogether? I am just running a home desktop and do not need the security it offers. Failing that, if I reinstall Suse can I tell the KDE window that invites me to use its services to push off and stop annoying me? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Erase hardrive.
Thanks to all who offered suggestions. Some of the advice was technically over my head but It looks like the issue is solved in a way I did not expect. I found a CD rescue disk which I had forgotten about and never tried to use, thinking it would be technically beyond me. I ran it out of curiosity and found QTParted. I used it to wipe all partitions and their contents. Then tried an install of Kubuntu. No problems. I then ventured into an automatix install. Again no problem. I have since rebooted it a few times without any difficulty. Thanks again for the friendly contributions. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Erase hardrive.
I have an old box I try out different versions of distros on. I recently stuffed it up in some way I do not understand, although I suspect it was when I tried to install the latest Knoppix onto my drive (install not just run). Now with only a couple of exceptions every distro I try to install either will not even begin, or will install part way then crash, or install fully but refuse to open. Even Windows will not install. I have had someone check my bios out and it is OK. It appears as though Knoppix or something else may have left something on the drive that is mucking it all up. Is there some way I can totally wipe the drive clean and start again from fresh? John. And thanks to those who sent advice concerning my ongoing issue with a flash drive. I will soon try it all out and get back to you. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mounting flash drive.
Yes, Gary. I have even tried two separate flash drives simultaneously but no luck. John. Gary Bennett wrote: On 5/3/06, john gibbons wrote: Thanks to the two Peters and Sridhar and Dion for their suggestions. Sorry I am late giving feedback. I tried each one. From all four approaches I ended up with the statement that the usb disk does not exist. My own technical know-how has long since fizzled out. How does one make it exist in the first place? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html John, Have you tried rebooting with the stick in place? Regards, Gary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Mounting flash drive.
Thanks to the two Peters and Sridhar and Dion for their suggestions. Sorry I am late giving feedback. I tried each one. From all four approaches I ended up with the statement that the usb disk does not exist. My own technical know-how has long since fizzled out. How does one make it exist in the first place? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Mounting Flash Drive
Would some kind slugger please tell me what I have to type into the terminal to mount my flash drive in Fedora 4? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ubuntu/debian
Do you install Easyububtu as a complete OS or is it grafted onto already installed Ubuntu? John. Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Bret Comstock Waldow On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anybody can point me in the right direction, much appreciated. Google automatix. This is a family of scripts that are provided to do all the extra setup for K/Ubuntu. I have seen messages in the ubuntu forum about amd64 versions. I haven't tried it, but reviews and messages about it look quite good. Please use EasyUbuntu instead of Automatix. There are a lot of disappointly bad things done by Automatix that are better to avoid. - Jeff -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Unwanted ads
Some swine marketing viagra and associated products sends me several advts each day.It is the only advertiser to get to me via Firefox being run in Fedora 4. His advts vary at times and claim to come from different sources and are programmed to vary some content via random ommissions of letters in words, different home addresses, etc. However, the similarities are strong enough to suggest a single source. Firefox recognises most of them as junk but misses on others. I identify all of them as junk and immediately delete them. Is there some way I can block them from even arriving in the first place? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwanted ads
Via email, Matthew. Just got another half dozen. Sometimes exactly the same advt repeated 3 or 4 times. John. Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:05:02AM +1100, john gibbons wrote: Some swine marketing viagra and associated products sends me several advts each day.It is the only advertiser to get to me via Firefox being run in Fedora 4. His advts vary at times and claim to come from different sources and are programmed to vary some content via random ommissions of letters in words, different home addresses, etc. However, the similarities are strong enough to suggest a single source. Firefox recognises most of them as junk but misses on others. I identify all of them as junk and immediately delete them. Is there some way I can block them from even arriving in the first place? I'm confused; is this in email or from websites or out of nowhere? (!) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwanted ads
Careless of me: yes, Thunderbird. John. Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 10:59:44AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he means spam like this (i get them alot also)... Well yeah, I get hundreds per day. But firefox? Webmail? Or Thunderbird perhaps? Not trying to be pedantic; trying to make sure he hasn't got some sort of malware firefox toolbar. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Debian and hubs
Pray tell: with Debian Sarge installed, what has to be typed in to configure a 4 port hub with its printer and flash memory plugged in? Many thanks in advance. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unzip and install
Thanks Miachel and Gottfried. I now have an opened file sitting as follows: /home/john/vym-1.7.0 Any advice on how I get it to actually run? John. Gottfried Szing wrote: john gibbons wrote: I have installed Fedora 4 and have an application vym-1.7.0.tar.gz on my desktop. Would appreciate advice on what I type into the terminal to unzip it and then get it running. to unpack (not to unzip because thats a geziiped tar-ball) use $ tar xvzf vym-1.7.0.tar.gz or alternatively to unpack the file to e.g. /tmp $ tar xvzf vym-1.7.0.tar.gz -C /tmp/ during unpacking the tar-ball you can see a list of files. what to do next depends on the content of the file. usually there is some txt-file (e.g. install.txt, readme.txt, ...) with additional information. worst-case is that you have to compile the application. but maybe there is an rpm for fedora or better way to install vym on fedora. br, gottfried -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Unzip and install
I have installed Fedora 4 and have an application vym-1.7.0.tar.gz on my desktop. Would appreciate advice on what I type into the terminal to unzip it and then get it running. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Connection refused.
Is slug off the air at present? When I try to call up the site is get a 'connection refused' message. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Install application
Thanks for your reply, Dennis. I am not sure how to answer your question. I got a window telling me there was an error which prevented opening the file. But about then I somehow lost the lot. I will try another download later and will be more careful about reading what appears. John. Dennis M. Gray wrote: It seems like the instructions on the web site are pretty complete. Are you having trouble with the install script or some other problem? I am running Ubuntu 10 and have just downloaded CorelPHOTOPAINT9Lnx.tar.gz which is sitting in the archive window. Would appreciate advice on what to type into the command line to get it running. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Install application
I am running Ubuntu 10 and have just downloaded CorelPHOTOPAINT9Lnx.tar.gz which is sitting in the archive window. Would appreciate advice on what to type into the command line to get it running. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Install application
Thanks for your help, David and Mathew but I have somehow or other lost the lot. Will attempt another download and install later. John. David wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 08:10:26PM +1100, john gibbons wrote: I am running Ubuntu 10 and have just downloaded CorelPHOTOPAINT9Lnx.tar.gz which is sitting in the archive window. Would appreciate advice on what to type into the command line to get it running. You've downloaded a tarball.. so the first thing to do is unpack it. If you are lucky it will have good build/installation instructions in a README or a doc directory somewhere. I'd be making a directory inside your home directory called something like photopaint, then moving the tarball there, then doing: $ tar -xzf CorelPHOTOPAINT9Lnx.tar.gz With luck you will find something interesting to read in there ;-) David. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Suse 9.3 and internet
My thanks to Grant, James and Graham for their help. I am now hooked up successfully. Graham generously talked me through the process by phone. I like what I see with Suse and will stick with it as my distros of choice. But, the experts behind Suse still have a long way to go before they are effective communicators so far as the average desktop user is concerned. I love the open source philosophy and really admire the generosity of the people involved. However, I think there is an opportunity for a consultancy that bridges the communication gap between experts and the average computer user. There ends my lecture for the day. John. Grant Parnell wrote: On Mon, November 14, 2005 5:18 pm, John Gibbons said: I have just installed Suse 9.3. It did not automatically connect with my internet service provider, Unwired. Can someone give me a GUI based guide to getting it to communicate? Or else spell out a command line communication? Thanks for any help. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Turn off your unwired external ethernet modem, turn it on again, use DHCP on your Linux box. If you haven't actually signed up yet, fire up a web browser and go to any web page to get the unwired modem registered, then you'll have to re-fetch an IP address (down the interface and up it again). It's important to note that I found the unwired modem will only talk to a single MAC (ethernet card) address. Thus if you had it working on another computer and just move the cable you'll pull your hair out trying to get it to work until you turn it off/on again. I've also had this happen with iBurst and some other ADSL and cable modems too. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Suse 9.3 and internet
I have just installed Suse 9.3. It did not automatically connect with my internet service provider, Unwired. Can someone give me a GUI based guide to getting it to communicate? Or else spell out a command line communication? Thanks for any help. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux hosting in Australia?
I have been using smartyhost for about 6 months. No complaints. John. Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:50, Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a low cost virtual private server (running Linux, of course!) that has low latency connections to AARNET and OptusNET. So far, the low cost providers I've found are all in the US or Canada; Australian providers seem to start at around $20 per month (as opposed to $5US). Does anyone know of a low-cost, well-connected provider in Australia? How about these guys: http://www.smartyhost.com.au/ I've never used them so I can't vouch for their quality, but $80 per year is an excellent price by Australian standards. They run on Red Hat. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux hosting in Australia?
I think it is virtual but I'm a technical dummy. Perhaps someone else has the answer. John. Peter Chubb wrote: John == John Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John I have been using smartyhost for about 6 months. No complaints. John John. Do they give you a virtual Linux server, or just a web server? I can't see any way to run my own MTA on their web site. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Install
Thanks Gottfried. John. Gottfried Szing wrote: john gibbons wrote: I downloaded Java Runtime and have it sitting on my desktop. Now I do not know how to get it up and running. Would kind person email the command line entry needed? I am running Ubuntu. The file is home/john/Desktop/j2re-1_3_1_16-linux-i586.bin i have found some nice doc about this on the ubuntu page if you really want to do it the ubuntu way: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Install
I downloaded Java Runtime and have it sitting on my desktop. Now I do not know how to get it up and running. Would kind person email the command line entry needed? I am running Ubuntu. The file is home/john/Desktop/j2re-1_3_1_16-linux-i586.bin Thanks. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless broadband -Linux friendly modems/providers
I use Unwired. Have tried it with a few different distros and it has been automatically and successfully configured each time. Can recommend it. John. Mark O'Connor wrote: I am considering using wireless broadband and wondered if anyone had any experience with the Sydney providers and Linux compatibility? Is the client/login software on the wireless modem ( controlled by a browser) or do I need a client for my Debian box. Any preferred service providers? Thanks Mark -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Converting video tapes.
Full name from driver disk: Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 DVD Creator. The software included for picture downloads, etc, is Ulead Video Studio 6. John. Voytek wrote: quote who=John Gibbons I have acquired a bit of hardware that can link a video tape recorder to the computer to convert tapes into CDs and DVDs. The accompanying software is exclusively Windows. Bugger! what is it called ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Converting video tapes.
I have acquired a bit of hardware that can link a video tape recorder to the computer to convert tapes into CDs and DVDs. The accompanying software is exclusively Windows. Bugger! Does anyone know if there is a Linux application that might work? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Debian 3.1
Thanks to Jeff, Ken and Simon. I had been trying startx but when nothing happened I had assumed I was using the wrong input. Since getting your replies I have tried two reinstalls but each time end up in the same place. Maybe the DVD I am using from the latest Linux Format magazine has a glitch? Nevertheless will try again. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Debian 3.1
I have just installed Debian 3.1 but instead of it opening in the GUI I have to type in a command. Would some kind person tell me what it is? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] First time installing application.
I am running Ubuntu and have just downloaded an application from an outside source but do not know how to install it. It sits on the desktop. The file finishes with .bin. Clicking yields a message which tells me to 'rename the file to the correct extension for shell script'. I do not know how to or what happens after that. Help would be appreciated. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] First time installing application.
Thanks James and Simon, it is up and running. The application is called 'cMap', a freebie from 'cmap.ihmc.us'. It is an improvement on the Mind Map way of developing concepts. I gave it a trial run and prefer it to the way Mind Map works. And that triggers a thought - perhaps it might be a useful way of showing Linux converts like me a clearer way of following and understanding the purposes and links of the multiple textual commands of Linux. The GUIs are becoming clearer and easier to use by beginners but the textual stuff is still offputting and confusing. John. James Polley wrote: On 8/29/05, Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: chmod +x Desktop/filename.bin enter Desktop/filename.bin enter Then it will install. Depending on what this needs to do to install, you may have to run this as root (using sudo or su). Of course, running it as root means it can do whatever it wants to do, so be careful. Out of curiosity, what is it that you're installing? Unless it's something really bizarre, it probably already has a debian package (.dpkg) version which will install simpler and cleaner.. and if not, compiling from source will probably give you a better result than installing precompiled binaries (although not neccessarily) Oh, and that sms you got tonight? that was from me, you galoot :p See you.. thursday? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A beginner's server???
Thanks Mike. It shows up a lot of addresses in Google each with that address somewhere. I do not understand the significance of that. John. Mike Lake wrote: Hi John On Sat Jul 09, John Gibbons wrote: Is there such a thing as a simple server setup to handle a simple static website that a beginner can install and run from home?? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html I presume you have Linux up and running. If so its likely that a web server is already running on you machine. If so going to http://localhost/ in your browser should show you a HTML page. Whats show? Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A beginner's server???
Thanks Sridhar. Will looksee. John. Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:05, John Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there such a thing as a simple server setup to handle a simple static website that a beginner can install and run from home?? KDE has a Public File Server Kicker (panel) applet. It is very rudimentary, but it's by far the easiest to use Web server I've seen. Depending on your distribution, you may need to install it as a separate package. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A beginner's server???
Very helpful. Thanks Pia. John. Pia Waugh wrote: Hi John, quote who=John Gibbons Is there such a thing as a simple server setup to handle a simple static website that a beginner can install and run from home?? The most simple setup I've seen is the Red Hat stuff, from their add/remove programs you can select to install a web server, which is actually just all the apps required, but as others indicated if you install Apache, it should just work (make sure the apache daemon is running :) and then you can modify the index.html page which will be wherever your particular installer put it. If you still have trouble, repost with your Linux distro details. Otherwise, I'd recommend a few other approaches, because even with an easy installer learning how to make websites quickly isn't easy with a lot of these tools, even if they are easy to install. I'd recommend looking at a Content Managemenst System (CMS), like Mambo (mamboserver.org) which will give you a web interface to modifying your website, without having to learn how to tweak a bunch of applications individually. If you want something up very quickly, speak to Geoffrey Robertson who hosts all the tools for you at something like $100 a year, so you have a website, with all the tools and administration done for you, and you simply modify it through an easy to use web interface. Contact him on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes I'm plugging Geoffrey :) He hosts a website for a non-profit I'm involved in (not Linux Australia ;P ) and it was so easy to organise through him, it is a pretty useful service. Cheers, Pia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A beginner's server???
Thanks Mark. I'll have a look at that one too. John. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, I am a beginner too but had very little problem getting Apache up and running under Debian. Using bigpond cable I do not have a fixed IP but easily got around this by going to www.noip.com , you can register your own sub-domain name from those they provide and download their IP update Client keeps a redirection to your system's IP address, up to date. Good luck Mark -Original Message- From: John Gibbons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2005 6:05 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] A beginner's server??? Is there such a thing as a simple server setup to handle a simple static website that a beginner can install and run from home?? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] A beginner's server???
Is there such a thing as a simple server setup to handle a simple static website that a beginner can install and run from home?? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Printing
Thanks Richard. I see you have a long-term view of the cost advantages. Probably a little too long term for me, but I accept that it is a view appropriate for a business environment where it can be written off. I would hope to be replacing my printer with something better/cheaper (new technology and destined to include colour) much sooner. My Brother HL1430 yields an estimated 5000 copies for about the same price as the toner costs you mention and includes a new drum at the same time. The printer is currently selling around the $200 mark. It is fast and delivers top quality prints. I recommend it as a cheap way into laser printing. John. Richard wrote: Kyocera use a Ceramic drum that lasts 100,000 pages and the replacement cost is about the same as a new machine. If you look at the Brother 5140 ( $350ex new) the new drum that only lasts 20,000 pages costs $189-$212, and the carts are about the same price as the Kyocera. Simple math shows the $320ex Kyocera FS-820 with it 100,000 page life drum totally massacres the TCO of the Brother printer over a 5 years period (take me 8 years to output 100,000 pages). Each cart does 6,000 pages, prices vary New $119ex Refill $77 ( same toner as a FS-1010/20) And no HP are not much better either, in some cases worse. The so called sub $200 models are great if your not printing much but for a small office there the most expensive option, with there small toner carts and drums that don't last long (usually the cart and drum are one unit only putting out 1,000-2,000 pages). One thing I must admit when I ordered the Kyocera FS-820, I thought it would be rather small going by the picture but its actually a decent sized printer with a rather spacious paper tray. Its also anything but slow and doesn't output pages that have that slight bend in them like many laser printers do. Also for those with Apple laptops there is a firewire port on the back next to the standard Parallel connector. On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 08:21 +1000, John Gibbons wrote: Sounds like a great deal and much cheaper to run than my Brother HL1430 which is a nice little machine. Can the drum/toner be replaced with a new one? Cost? John. Regards Richard Neal Childlessness is hereditary, if your parents don't have children neither will you. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Printing
Sounds like a great deal and much cheaper to run than my Brother HL1430 which is a nice little machine. Can the drum/toner be replaced with a new one? Cost? John. Richard wrote: Hai folks I asked about a month ago about what would be a good mono laser printer, for a small office setup. Some of the information was very useful, and I thank everyone. So what did I end up buying, well after running the slide rule over everything I ended up getting a Kyocera FS-820, the main reasons being very low TCO compared to all the printers I looked into. The two main factors were the up front price of only $320ex, and that I don't have to change the drum for 100,000 pages (you just buy another printer). It works fine with Linux (don't use it with Mandrake 10.1 there is a PCL/lp0 bug in the kernel easily fixed by updating to a kernel 2.6.10 or later). I have no commercial relationship to Kyocera so this is all a personal decision. Regards Richard Neal Childlessness is hereditary, if your parents don't have children neither will you. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Toshiba
I don't know if this helps, but I have an old Toshiba Satellite 2590XDVD which came with 6 gig. I had a 20gig hd installed with no problems at all. Runs nicely with dual booting of XP and Linux. Have tried a few distros including Ubuntu. Again, no problems. John. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm looking to replace the hard disk drive of a Toshiba Satellite 4030CDT from its current 6Gb (1.5Gb free space) to something to allow me to add Ubuntu on it next to the existing Windows 98. The machine has the latest (circa 2001) BIOS 8.20 from Toshiba. I've been advised that the main constraint might be the BIOS' support for large disks. Toshiba's support say that it won't support a disk larger than the current 6Gb but they never asked me about the BIOS version I have. A Toshiba support partner (a company which will actually would do the disk installation for me, listed in Toshiba's web site) says that it will support 20Gb and they are not sure about 40Gb. Someone on another mailing list reminded me of the possible old 33Gb disk limit, which would allow me to use a 30Gb disk. Does anyone know what are the attributes I should look for? Physically, it seems that the limits are 2.5 width and 9.5mm height (the height of the current disk). Thanks, --A -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Win4Lin
I notice Win4Lin requires a legal copy of Windows. Is that a legal, legal copy, or does it also work with a wink, wink legal copy? Just an innocent question. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Grabbing a copy of Linux
I agree with Richard. Mandrake is probably the simplest of all to start with because it makes dual booting a breeze. I lost my virginity to Linux with Mandrake, starting from my base of total ignorance. Next, I would suggest SimplyMepis or Ubuntu. John. On Monday 02 May 2005 21:35, Jarrah wrote: Hi, I'm a Sydney teenager and I'm sick of Windows. I've been a fan of Linux for a while, I've got a copy of Knoppix, but recently I was at the Australian Informatics camp and after using Debian for 10 days, it depresses me to come home to my Windows box. I was wondering if you knew where or how I could find some help with getting a copy of Debian with the full KDE, and getting onto my machine so it will dual-boot, Windows or Debian. Niether myself nor my friend (who also went to the camp, despises Windows and wants to get Debian as a dual system) can download the complete disks, and neither of us know how to safely install it on a partition so it won't stuff up Windows, and Windows won't stuff it up. If this isn't possible with Debian, a different flavour of Linux with the KDE would be okay - but the Debian pre-release, which we used at the camp, worked fine for everything we needed and we'd be happy with that. Thanks, --Jarrah -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] WINE and Frontpage 2002.
Has anyone tried using WINE to run FrontPage 2002? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [activities] InstallFest: Ubuntu Down Under Love Day
Me too. I intended to go until I read Craige's email and it reminded me. I am locked into an Anzac day event. The following weekend sounds good to me for all the reasons Craige mentioned. John. Craige McWhirter wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 18:38 +1000, Lindsay Holmwood wrote: Monday, April 25, 10:30am - 4:30pm This is ANZAC day. I won't be there as I think the timing is in-appropriate. I also don't think four days is enough to plan an effective install fest or enough notice to give to volunteers. Why not go for the following weekend? More notice, more planning, more publicity. Certainly not enough but more :) -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Printer
Try Brother HL1430. Mine works a treat. It is one of the cheapest as well. I've installed several distros for fun and they all recognised it from their own supply of built in drivers. John. Hai I was just wondering if anyone has recently bought a printer to run on Linux. Im after a laser printer (nothing fancy) to works with the CUPS print server. Yes I know there are websites that list printers that work with Linux but some Ive found don't work that well or not at all, and some work great. So whats a good new laser printer thats just does black and white prints. Also while Im here whats a good three in one printer that people have had experience buying and using with Linux lately. Regards Richard Neal -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
Yes, cable. I am in a 2 story house and they put a cable into my upstairs room. A telstra phone line was downstairs with extensions upstairs. So I did not need another phone. However, a phone came with it and when I queried the need for for it they told me it was a necessary part of the installation anyway. That added $20 to the advertised monthly cost of the service. Maybe I was gullible. Anyway, when I rang and queried the whole deal 18 months later (slow of me, I know) I was told the handset could go but I still had to have the line because it serviced the modem and would have to continue to pay $10 per month for that. This means that the advertised monthly cost of the broadband service was shonky and it was dearer than people were being told. That got up my nose so I recently changed over to Unwired. Saves money, is an excellent service and I can take the modem elsewhere where reception exists and use it with my laptop. I fool around with 3 computers, all running Windows alongside Linux and the Unwired service is a trouble free installation even a beginner can understand. A router means all 3 computers share the modem without cable swapping which I was doing with Optus gear.So I am in front. I apologise for this long reply but I warn anyone considering Optus Broadband to check that they are actually getting the service at the advertised price with no non-essential add-ons that are a disguised cost. Maybe the pricing is more transparent now - I hope so. John. Grant Parnell wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, john gibbons wrote: I can give you some feedback. I was with Optus cable broadband for 2 years and just recently discontinued to transfer to Unwired. Glad I did. An excellent service and cheaper. Just for fun I have run Fedora 3 and other distros on Optus but also experienced a lot of headaches at times getting some of them configured. I never succeeded with some. Fedora 3, Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 10 gave no trouble with Mandrake and Red Hat actually connecting themselves up with virtually no help from me. I am still a beginner with Linux and am not a text man - quite confined to GUI clicking. So you can believe me when I say something is easy to set up. BUT - and here is my gripe with Optus Broadband. It is advertised at one basic fee for 1 gig but they do not mention the compulsory rent for the telephone line they put in and, in my case, a spare telephone I did not want. So it actually cost $20 per over the quoted fee. But maybe you will not get caught as I did. Are you talking about Cable or ADSL? The subject is about cable, the stuff you get the TV through. I am aware that they can actually provide telephone over the cable though. I've got a customer that's got 2 optus cable links at different sites, neither of them are a problem. The trick is if you switch ethernet cards or plug it into a different machine pull the plug on the cable modem to reset it. It will only talk to the first MAC address it sees. I spent half an hour figuring that out. (Same for i-burst ethernet). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
I can give you some feedback. I was with Optus cable broadband for 2 years and just recently discontinued to transfer to Unwired. Glad I did. An excellent service and cheaper. Just for fun I have run Fedora 3 and other distros on Optus but also experienced a lot of headaches at times getting some of them configured. I never succeeded with some. Fedora 3, Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 10 gave no trouble with Mandrake and Red Hat actually connecting themselves up with virtually no help from me. I am still a beginner with Linux and am not a text man - quite confined to GUI clicking. So you can believe me when I say something is easy to set up. BUT - and here is my gripe with Optus Broadband. It is advertised at one basic fee for 1 gig but they do not mention the compulsory rent for the telephone line they put in and, in my case, a spare telephone I did not want. So it actually cost $20 per over the quoted fee. But maybe you will not get caught as I did. Because my experience began 2 years ago, some things may have changed. They do not support Linux. Sluggers will be of more help there. I was running Windows XP and not a Linux user when I joined up. However, I found that some of the questions I wanted to ask, such as numerical addresses of gateways, server, etc., were answered in a friendly way. They told me how to get XP to reveal these addresses to me. I did not know enough to be aware that I could do that. My suggestion is to give Unwired some consideration. It is easy to check if you are in a good reception area. And there is no setup fee now. Since I switched over a month ago I am delighted with it. I even reinstalled a few different versions of Linux to test it out. Faultless and easy configuration in each case except only for Suse which, as usual, left me scratching my head and wondering why I keep trying with that distro. Unwired does not support Linux either, but who of the major players does??? Hope this helps. John. Jesus Salvo Jr. wrote: I have been putting off broadband installation at home for more than a year now. However, this Optus promotion of $0 broadband installation and 3 or 4 months free is very tempting. Before I dip in the pool ... 1) Does anyone here use Optus Cable ? What hardware do they provide ? Does it work with 2.6 kernels ... or do you need some specific patches. I'm running Fedora Core 3 at home s well. 2) How is the service ? Do you get bumped off if you call / email technical support and tell them you use Linux ? Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Puppy Linux
I have just been playing with Puppy Linux. What a pet! Extremely fast and simple as it works from RAM. With 2 gig flash drives now available it is time for it to leave puppyhood behind and become a really formidable hunting hound. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Puppy Linux
I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Puppy Linux
Dumbo Linux might help more of us escape from Windows' grasp. John. Richard Neal wrote: sorry I only use kitten linux sheesh whats next pink elephant linux...ooh sorry On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 21:48, john gibbons wrote: /I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. John./ Regards Richard Neal Kryten Cat: Hey, I got it! We laser our way through!? Kryten: Ah, an excellent suggestion, Sir, with just two minor drawbacks. One, we don't have a power source for the lasers, and two, we don't have any lasers.- Cat and Kryten, White Hole ( Red Dwarf ) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Puppy Linux
Thanks to those giving advice. Got it running and it looks like a sweet little distro. However, I think I accidentally entered the wrong info for my mouse, identifying it as usb instead of usb(ps2). So there is this nice screen looking at me with a dead mouse. I tried reinstalling it twice but it is not giving me the option to alter the mouse setting so I can only look and not touch. Anyone out there who has experience of Puppy Linux and can advise me re mouse? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Knoppix 3.6
Thanks to all who helped. The ctl-alt-F1 with 'knoppix-installer' got me moving but then I struck a snag. When I get to the partitioning task I am told that the partition (NTFS of course, being XP and taking up the whole disk) is read only and cannot be used. Any suggestions? Easy to understand ones if possible. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Knoppix 3.6
Just tried Knoppix 3.6. Much impressed. Is there a way to install it on the hardrive (alongside XP) to run it as a normal distro instead of a live one? Not too technical a reply, please. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Goals
Straight to the heart of the matter. John. Benno wrote: On Sun Dec 05, 2004 at 10:32:10 +1100, john gibbons wrote: I would like to raise the goal post for Linux software interface developers from 'intuitional' to 'bloody obvious'. I am getting some frustration off my chest after trying to download some Linux software for the first time and get it up and running. According to the directions it was easy. My question is : for whom? For the author. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Goals
Thank you for the questions that are meant to help. However, I am inclined to think that the need to ask the questions at all helps me make my point. One simple interface that asks simple questions and automatically installs is a real need for Linux if it is ever going to be upon PCs for the common mob which includes me. For as long as different distros go about a very common communication task in often very different ways they delay widespread acceptance of Linux by home and small business users. The distros may be Ferraris, Rolls Royces or outback rustbuckets underneath, but they must be able to accomodate the day-to-day travel needs of the ordinary drivers who can get into them and use the manual or automatic gearbox to get to their destination. Other drivers and engineers can break the speed records, design better engines, or whatever, if they have the skills. On the surface, at the interface, they must be understandable and useable for the most common tasks by ordinary folk. If not, they will forever be brilliant feats of engineering suitable for a limited range of users. Nothing new about that comment, I guess. Different distros will use KDE and/or GNOME and everyday users will adapt and be able to use whichever distro they started with or switch between them and get common tasks done. That is all the great majority want. So why not have a simple common interface for downloading and installing, which is a very common task? Behind the interface the really great distros can continue to do it more elegantly and those who appreciate and understand the elegance and the advantages it offers will provide the appreciation and the use. So, I think that the basic question is not What is it I don't understand?, even though that is meant to be of help, but, What is not being quite obvious?. John. Ken Foskey wrote: On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 10:32 +1100, john gibbons wrote: I would like to raise the goal post for Linux software interface developers from 'intuitional' to 'bloody obvious'. I am getting some frustration off my chest after trying to download some Linux software for the first time and get it up and running. According to the directions it was easy. My question is : for whom? Thanks for your comments john however we have little to actually understand what you are talking about What particular distribution did you try? What setup option did you take gnome, kde or other. What particular problems are you facing? Unfortunately developers tend to be literal people that work on 'this button X has no meaning to me please reword' than 'its broken please fix'. Raise problem reports with the actual suppliers. I have raised 10 bug reports through debian packages so far with 80% success rate. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Goals
Thanks Rick, for your offer to help. My long winded reply to a similar offer by Ken describes what is actually bugging me. I greatly admire Linux and what the Linux community are out to achieve and what sounds like a whinge is really meant to be a suggestion. Or my clumsy attempt to contribute. I would appreciate your comment. John. Rick Welykochy wrote: john gibbons wrote: I would like to raise the goal post for Linux software interface developers from 'intuitional' to 'bloody obvious'. I am getting some frustration off my chest after trying to download some Linux software for the first time and get it up and running. According to the directions it was easy. My question is : for whom? Welcome to a world where there is no QA, where there is no standard installation process and where your very mettle will be tested to the limit when you install FOSS. But once you do, you will know alot about the underlying architecture of the operating system you are using. So tell us, John, which package caused you grief? Perhaps we can show you the way to easier installs. cheers rickw p.s. the quality FOSS installation (on Linux, Unix, etc) can vary from something sterling like Perl (works seamlessly everytime on every platform I've tried) to downright dreadful (not naming names). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Goals
Benno, I think the bug is a communications issue rather than a technical one, unless I am missing something here. This is is a hypothetical example: Dumbo (that's me) sees an application on the internet he wants to try. He clicks 'download'. Easy. A little window says 'Download in progress'. A pause . A little window says 'Download complete'. A little sign pops up saying 'Install? Yes, No'. Dumbod clicks 'Yes'. A brief pause then a friendly little window says, 'Install complete'. Dumbo then happily clicks on the new Icon or application name and, hooray!!, it runs. Dumbo is not even aware that there is another way of making things happen via typing in text in a window he has never seen. That is there for the technically competent. But Dumbo will recommend Linux to a friend because it is easy to use and so much easier on the pocket than the Microsoft one. That is the communication issue. I have no idea of the technicalities of being able to make that happen in the various distros. I suppose it may be anything from really simple to bloody difficult. I take your point about no one Linux community. So my suggestion should be addressed to those who really want Linux to be acessible to 'everyone'. I am sure hundreds (thousands?) of other people have made similar suggestions. John. Benno wrote: On Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 07:43:05 +1100, john gibbons wrote: Thanks Rick, for your offer to help. My long winded reply to a similar offer by Ken describes what is actually bugging me. I greatly admire Linux and what the Linux community are out to achieve and what sounds like a whinge is really meant to be a suggestion. Or my clumsy attempt to contribute. I would appreciate your comment. John, The thing is I don't think there is one linux community. Linux the kernel is used in such a wide variety of applications by a diverse number of people. I don't really think there is one community. In my opinion there are a number of different operating systems based on the Linux kernel. Each of these operating systems, Redhat, SuSe, Debian *is* trying to address the issues you mention, but in different ways. Everyone working on these projects undestands the problems you are bringing up, but to solve them, they need to know when something isn't working, which is why a specific bug report from you would help them make their operating systems better. Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Goals
Great horror story, Ken. Beats my early experiences as a total beginner where it took me about 6 months to find and get running a distro that would talk to the internet via my desktop. I got a professional in to help. After several hours (no exaggeration) he gave up. He was so embarrassed he did not charge me, true story! A few weeks later I tried another distro and somehow fluked it. Had no idea how. Months later I am now able to get some more recent releases to behave with the internet but not all. Maybe there is something odd about my hardware.You are obviously acquiring greater depth of learning as a result of your experiences than I. But we both share the qualities most needed for a Linux newbie - bloody minded stubborness and refusal to be beaten. John PB. (The PB stands for perennial beginner). Ken Wilson wrote: As a relative new linux user I have been suffering similar problems. I dont know whether it is a problem with my hardware/software/the way that I set it up/the options that I chose or didnt find. File a bug report I dont know which log file to append, how to actually describe the problem for techos appart from I couldnt get it to work: which will often come out as its bad or its fcuked. Any answer that I get back will require me to work comfortably from a command line. If it doesn't work first attempt at fixing it do I go on changing things that I may not be able to get back to previous state. Sure it is easy for someone who knows their way around confidently to poke around files and find what doesnt look right but I dont have that knowledge yet. Changing a random part of a random file is unlikely to fix a problem, yet till I know more, that is what I feel I am doing. I had Mac at work in Antartica so got plenty of time to read manuals and go from no computing to able to work on computer and terminal via GUI. Bought Win 95 laptop pre CD, and had trouble installing serial CD drive. That got stollen so bought win2k desktop set up and used regularly by a friend who then migrated back to NZ. I found all the trial versions of software that he was regularly removing and replacing in the month after he left. I failed in the remove replace game and this software said that I had already used it so buy me now!! at ~$100 US a piece. I decided to try open source, bought redhat 7.2 boxed set with lots of paper manuals. Bought another hard desk and dual booted it with Win 2K. Used that but the CD burner no go. Mother board failure so replaced by an associate, they upgraded to RedHat 9 to get it to go. Had not yet tested CD burner, read was OK. I wanted USB to work so bought Redhat WS3 hoping that Redhat would have these things sorted out by now as digital cameras have been out for a while. Redha tws3 did not detect my flash memory drive, or compact flash in my multibay card reader. Much reading of websites, caches of support mailing lists etc and I had the answer. I added the line about luns to the required file in Xemacs. No go and now my system became unstable and did weird things. I commented out the line, no improvement, I deleted the line, no improvement, I repaired Redhat, I reformated and reloaded Redhatws3. I was given Mandrake so I installed that, it detected the flash memory stick, but not the Compact flash. I bought a single bay CF reader but that has not detected the compact flash card so far. And still my CD burner reads but doesn't write. I tried to back up my email to the flash memory stick, but copying files to the fash memory stick caused evolution to crash and loose all its email. Maybe Debian would be easier to change things than a commercial bundled packaged version, so I Bought debian woody from elx as CDs seeing the burner no go and attempted that but it crashed on trying to start X with video driver set to SIS for the on board video SIS651 chip on a ASIS P4SP-MX motherboard and also with it set to VGA. all the monitor settings were correct. Now I have reloaded Mandrake read more websites, consulted the half metre high stack of linux books and looked at Mandrakes settings cause it worked, and in what I think was the correct file the settings I used in Debian instalation where what Mandrake has. In all of this I have very much had the feeling that I don't know what I am doing. I have lost all data that I have on my hard disc as it has been multipily reformatted and the CD no go. It is good that none of this is critical for me, but friends will only get email if they email me first. I am a terchnofile, I like learning and am now in the situation where I have nothing to loose except time so will push on but have no real idea of how. With the time I have spent on this I could have worked a few more shifts, bought a new computor and lots of windows software and gone away for a holiday in the remainder of the time. Something that just works would be nice. Impossible to set up does not make up for never breaks down. Ken On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 07:35 +1100, john gibbons wrote
[SLUG] Goals
I would like to raise the goal post for Linux software interface developers from 'intuitional' to 'bloody obvious'. I am getting some frustration off my chest after trying to download some Linux software for the first time and get it up and running. According to the directions it was easy. My question is : for whom? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu
Three cheers for the people who put this together. A truly generous bunch. I admire them enormously. However, it is well named Warthog. It is a swine for a beginner who is trying to connect to the internet via cable modem as I am. Live CD no problem, it worked easily. But, full install: frustration trying to get it alongside XP but after sacrificing XP and giving it the full disk, OK until a screaming halt trying to get Firefox up and running. We beginners are not full bottle on terminology and stuff. I know experts think they know this about us, but they really do not, they have forgotten how far down the bottom of the pecking order really is. Even the 'help' is not as helpful as beginners need. Try getting some beginners to advise if the 'help' really has been of help. Then rewrite it. A challenging opportunity exists for programmers to be able to communicate with ordinary folk who are supposed to be able to run a desktop. How does one invent an intuitional way to do things? This is not an invitation to go intellectual slumming but a suggestion that it is the only way to fulfill the dream of making Linux truly competitive with Windows for ordinary folk. A true reality bite. The intellectual giants will still be able to do their own esoteric stuff but they will also be able to think of how much they have benefitted the struggling mob. Glad I got that off my chest. Anyway, good on you Ubutu. Your heart and your principles are in the right place. I will persist and will be happy to be your friend and tell people about you and hand out the CDs you so kindly provided. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu
Does anyone know when the free Ubuntu CDs that were written about some weeks back will be sent out? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox Download Server Overload ?
Yes, but with Windows XP. I have a Fedora/XP dual setup. I complained to Optusnet cable about it this morning and they told me it was the problem of the programme and they could not help. I am on broadband but was downloading only about 14kb/sec. I reluctantly switched back to Explorer and it jumped close to 500kb/sec on a test run. John. O Plameras wrote: Just checking if anyone else is experiencing tremendously slow download for Firefox Browser from http://www.mozilla.org ? It is maybe due to a number of articles about Firefox in a number of US online daily news provider today, like this one: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47146-2004Nov13.html I am used to 52KB/sec download but since early this morning am getting only 13KB/sec. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wacom Tablet
Yes, David, it is usb and I just tried it on GIMP in Fedora 1. It worked. In any case, I understand there are Linux drivers for Wacom that can be downloaded. John. David wrote: have you had any offers yet? does it work on linux? what sort of connection... usb? David. On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, john gibbons wrote: Kevin, I have a Wacom Intuos 12 x 12 that has rarely been used. Was going to become a graphics whiz but never got around to it. Happy to consider an offer. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Wacom Tablet
Kevin, I have a Wacom Intuos 12 x 12 that has rarely been used. Was going to become a graphics whiz but never got around to it. Happy to consider an offer. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Unwired broadband service
Thanks to all for your help. I have a couple of months to go on my current Optusnet broadband contract. Then I'll take it a step further with Unwired and report in on events in case others are wondering too. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Unwired broadband service.
Greetings. Has anyone had any experience hooking up to the new 'Unwired' broadband service? I asked them but got an email saying they do not support Linux and I should contact my local network technician, which I have not got. I have Windows XP and Fedora 1 dual booted. Thanks for any advice. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New site
Great new web site. Congrats to all involved. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] dictation and wacom
Tess, Besides good advice you taught me a lesson re closing one's mind. My attempts to use my Intuos tablet with Gimp goes back a fair way and it would not work at the time. I also read a statement somewhere that Gimp still needed a driver for that purpose. So my mind shut down on the issue. After reading your email I googled and found the Intuous site has a Linux driver for my GD model Intuos. I was in XP which I recently had to reinstal because of a virus, and lost my Intuos driver in the process, so I downloaded the Windows version first. Then, switching to Linux Red Hat found it now worked there without further download. Because I was in a rush I have not checked out pressure sensitivity yet. Thanks for the advice and a lesson about my own mind set. My quest for the Dragon substitute now begins launched by your other suggestion. John. Tess Snider wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:04:53 +1000, john gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only two reasons for continuing to dual boot are Dragon Naturally Speaking and my Wacom graphics tablet. Does anyone know of a dictation programme for Linux or a pressure sensitive driver for a Wacom tablet? Wacom's own Linux drivers aren't pressure sensitive? I would think they would be. Linux machines are used pretty widely in the animation and special effects fields, these days, so there absolutely has to be a solution out there for you. Which tablet are you using? Is it a standard Intuos? (I have an Intuos, but I use it only with my Windows laptop, sorry to admit.) As for dictation programs, I don't know of anything you're going to find that works as well as DNS. If ANYONE would be able to answer your question, it would be the VoiceCoder's list. You can find it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VoiceCoder/ Good luck! Tess -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] dictation and wacom
My only two reasons for continuing to dual boot are Dragon Naturally Speaking and my Wacom graphics tablet. Does anyone know of a dictation programme for Linux or a pressure sensitive driver for a Wacom tablet? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Upgrading to Mandrake 10.
Hello to everyone knowing anything at allabout Linux, which excludes me. I have just tried to upgrade from Mandrake 9.1 to version 10. 9.1 loaded itself with only intuitional input from me and was trouble-free forthisbeginner. Trying to start up in the upgrade to10 for the first time I got: "The BackSpace key sends:" followed by an acute sign then ? followed by the blinking cursor. Can some kind soul tell me what I am supposed to type in? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Speech recognition
Hi, Does anyone know of a Linux-friendly speech recognition programme? I've been using Dragon Naturally Speaking in Windows and miss it. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] cable and optusnet
Greetings, I am a newcomer to Linux and cannot speak the technical language at all. After somehow successfully installing Mandrake 9.1 alongside XP I am at a loss to connect to optusnet via the cable modem that works OK with XP. Have read a couple of howtos in books for "beginners" written by well meaning but communication challenged experts and have read some advice on the internet but cannot understand it either.Theymay as well be written inEsperanto or Swahili as far as a complete beginner is concerned. Would some kind Linux Wizard who still remembers basic English please come to my rescue? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Hardware
Hi SLUGs, I am brand new to Linux and know practically nothing aboutitbut somehow managed to install Mandrake 9.1 alongside XP. Need advice on suitable medium price colour inkjet printer and suitable scanner plus drivers. Also need a driver for either Wacom tablet or Acecat Flair tablet. Can anyone please help while keeping technical language to minimum? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
