Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Mirko Jankovic]

he anyone can make Blender2SI skin, so it looks at feels as SI.. then maybe
maybe it could be used for some stufff. :)

I tried blender couple times but I really can;t figure out why the hell
they try to invent UI and viewport controls and then have some unintuitive
system? It is like you are trying to make new keyboard and then use some
weird keyboard order instead of qwerty.. some guy I saw gave really really
good overview of blender UI from user point of view diferent ways of doing
similar things.. like imagine in si to translate by math in text box you
need to put like 1+, but to rotate you ned to use +1 or =+1 or something...
so.. not there yet.. not a long shot really


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Andres Stephens wrote:

> I will eventually switch to Blender with this! GREAT!
>
> Not after my good run and mastering of SI... Still has a lot of juice to
> squeeze out.
>
> -Draise
>
> *From:* Dan Yargici
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 6, 2014 15:01 
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>
>
> Them's some strong words! and I'm saying that as a Blender evangelist...
>
> Quoted from thread:
> Originally Posted by *renderdemon* 
> 
>
> "I have an eagle model that needs a decent set of feathers,maybe with your
> nodal system I can reach a better result than with Blender
> particles/instances"
>
> You definitely can. I've made a simple feather system in ICE, but it was
> really slow and cumbersome to work with. It will be a lot easier in Flakes.
> I'm quite looking forward doing it myself actually .
>
> Sent from my phone...
> On 6 Mar 2014 20:18, "Paulo César Duarte"  wrote:
>
>> Amazing and historical gif.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-06 14:29 GMT-03:00 Simon Reeves :
>>
>>> I need to repost this legendary gif somewhere, so I'm going to do it here
>>>
>>>
>>> http://xsisupport.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/jurrasic_park__ilm_cgi_before_n_after.gif
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon Reeves
>>> London, UK
>>> *si...@simonreeves.com *
>>> *www.simonreeves.com *
>>> *www.analogstudio.co.uk *
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 March 2014 15:38, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>>>
 :D, I think uummm the futures exciting for voodoo, um.


 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Paulo César Duarte <
> paulocdua...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release
>> commercially?
>>
>> http://rhythm.com/labs/
>>
>> I have a GREAT idea -- Autodesk could buy it, oh wait...
>


>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.pauloduarte.ws
>>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Andres Stephens]

I will eventually switch to Blender with this! GREAT! 

Not after my good run and mastering of SI... Still has a lot of juice to 
squeeze out. 



-Draise



From: Dan Yargici
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎March‎ ‎6‎, ‎2014 ‎15‎:‎01‎ ‎
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


Them's some strong words! and I'm saying that as a Blender evangelist...

Quoted from thread:
Originally Posted by renderdemon 

"I have an eagle model that needs a decent set of feathers,maybe with your 
nodal system I can reach a better result than with Blender particles/instances"

You definitely can. I've made a simple feather system in ICE, but it was really 
slow and cumbersome to work with. It will be a lot easier in Flakes. I'm quite 
looking forward doing it myself actually .

Sent from my phone...

On 6 Mar 2014 20:18, "Paulo César Duarte"  wrote:


Amazing and historical gif.




2014-03-06 14:29 GMT-03:00 Simon Reeves :


I need to repost this legendary gif somewhere, so I'm going to do it here



http://xsisupport.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/jurrasic_park__ilm_cgi_before_n_after.gif








Simon Reeves

London, UK


si...@simonreeves.com
www.simonreeves.com

www.analogstudio.co.uk



 


On 6 March 2014 15:38, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:


:D, I think uummm the futures exciting for voodoo, um.







On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:





On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Paulo César Duarte  
wrote:


Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release 
commercially?

http://rhythm.com/labs/





I have a GREAT idea -- Autodesk could buy it, oh wait... 







-- 

www.pauloduarte.ws

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Dan Yargici]

Them's some strong words! and I'm saying that as a Blender evangelist...

Quoted from thread:
Originally Posted by *renderdemon*


"I have an eagle model that needs a decent set of feathers,maybe with your
nodal system I can reach a better result than with Blender
particles/instances"

You definitely can. I've made a simple feather system in ICE, but it was
really slow and cumbersome to work with. It will be a lot easier in Flakes.
I'm quite looking forward doing it myself actually .

Sent from my phone...
On 6 Mar 2014 20:18, "Paulo César Duarte"  wrote:

> Amazing and historical gif.
>
>
> 2014-03-06 14:29 GMT-03:00 Simon Reeves :
>
>> I need to repost this legendary gif somewhere, so I'm going to do it here
>>
>>
>> http://xsisupport.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/jurrasic_park__ilm_cgi_before_n_after.gif
>>
>>
>>
>> Simon Reeves
>> London, UK
>> *si...@simonreeves.com *
>> *www.simonreeves.com *
>> *www.analogstudio.co.uk *
>>
>>
>> On 6 March 2014 15:38, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>>
>>> :D, I think uummm the futures exciting for voodoo, um.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:
>>>
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Paulo César Duarte <
 paulocdua...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release
> commercially?
>
> http://rhythm.com/labs/
>
> I have a GREAT idea -- Autodesk could buy it, oh wait...

>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> www.pauloduarte.ws
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Paulo César Duarte]

Maybe soon we will have something similar to ICE in Blender?

http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?327950-Flakes-%96-nodular-everything

Screenshots:
http://i.imgur.com/7PILS8e.png
http://i.imgur.com/m17PI9p.png


2014-03-06 15:18 GMT-03:00 Paulo César Duarte :

> Amazing and historical gif.
>
>
> 2014-03-06 14:29 GMT-03:00 Simon Reeves :
>
> I need to repost this legendary gif somewhere, so I'm going to do it here
>>
>>
>> http://xsisupport.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/jurrasic_park__ilm_cgi_before_n_after.gif
>>
>>
>>
>> Simon Reeves
>> London, UK
>> *si...@simonreeves.com *
>> *www.simonreeves.com *
>> *www.analogstudio.co.uk *
>>
>>
>> On 6 March 2014 15:38, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>>
>>> :D, I think uummm the futures exciting for voodoo, um.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:
>>>
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Paulo César Duarte <
 paulocdua...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release
> commercially?
>
> http://rhythm.com/labs/
>
> I have a GREAT idea -- Autodesk could buy it, oh wait...

>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> www.pauloduarte.ws
>



-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Paulo César Duarte]

Amazing and historical gif.


2014-03-06 14:29 GMT-03:00 Simon Reeves :

> I need to repost this legendary gif somewhere, so I'm going to do it here
>
>
> http://xsisupport.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/jurrasic_park__ilm_cgi_before_n_after.gif
>
>
>
> Simon Reeves
> London, UK
> *si...@simonreeves.com *
> *www.simonreeves.com *
> *www.analogstudio.co.uk *
>
>
> On 6 March 2014 15:38, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>
>> :D, I think uummm the futures exciting for voodoo, um.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Paulo César Duarte <
>>> paulocdua...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release
 commercially?

 http://rhythm.com/labs/

 I have a GREAT idea -- Autodesk could buy it, oh wait...
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Simon Reeves]

I need to repost this legendary gif somewhere, so I'm going to do it here

http://xsisupport.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/jurrasic_park__ilm_cgi_before_n_after.gif



Simon Reeves
London, UK
*si...@simonreeves.com *
*www.simonreeves.com *
*www.analogstudio.co.uk *


On 6 March 2014 15:38, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:

> :D, I think uummm the futures exciting for voodoo, um.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Paulo César Duarte <
>> paulocdua...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release
>>> commercially?
>>>
>>> http://rhythm.com/labs/
>>>
>>> I have a GREAT idea -- Autodesk could buy it, oh wait...
>>
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Ognjen Vukovic]

:D, I think uummm the futures exciting for voodoo, um.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Paulo César Duarte  > wrote:
>
>> Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release
>> commercially?
>>
>> http://rhythm.com/labs/
>>
>> I have a GREAT idea -- Autodesk could buy it, oh wait...
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Ed Manning]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Paulo César Duarte
wrote:

> Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release
> commercially?
>
> http://rhythm.com/labs/
>
> I have a GREAT idea -- Autodesk could buy it, oh wait...

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Doeke Wartena]

Let's hope someone leakes the softimage source code...


2014-03-05 17:45 GMT+01:00 Octavian Ureche :

> No matter what assurances autodesk ever gives, i don't think anyone will
> ever believe them anymore.
> But then again, histories have a way of repeating themselves...
>
> Let's just hope this was the last time they managed to fool us.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Indeed. This decision does make one wonder if this will be a "CUBICOMP"
>> moment for AD M&E.
>>
>> Trust is not something sold like a software maintenance agreement. It's
>> earned. I started using Softimage 20 years ago this very month. In all
>> those years not  even Avid or Microsoft put the production methodology I
>> use in such jeopardy. The work I have been doing in Soft is so heavily
>> dependent ICE now it can't be done the same way or even transferred to Maya
>> or Max. How am I to replace this? There is no current Autodesk equivalent
>> to Softimage, especially in regards to ICE.
>>
>> I understand that softwares mature and new paradigms emerge. I've been
>> through the whole Picturemaker->Vertigo->Picturemaker, Quantel->Express V,
>> PowerAnimator/TAV->Maya, 3dStudio->Max, and SI3D->XSI paradigm shifts. I
>> even suffered through the demise of Aurora, Matador, and Shake. But why
>> isn't there an equivalent alternative to move to before Softimage is
>> terminated? Even if I do migrate to another AD M&E software, can I trust
>> that AD won't abandon it as well? Sketchbook anyone? Can anyone at AD  give
>> me a concrete assurance that this kind of abandonment, and loss of
>> investment, won't happen again?
>>
>> --
>> Joey Ponthieux
>> __
>> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:35 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>>
>> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
>> the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
>> been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
>> are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
>> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>>
>> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
>> to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
>> back if at all possible.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Jordi Bares
>> jordiba...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
>> Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
>> been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
>> Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
>> needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
>> will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
>> details with you:
>> >
>> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
>> >
>> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
>> > service packs for two more years
>> >
>> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to
>> > transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to
>> > continue to use Softimage in production/
>> >
>> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
>> > rental plans if they need to scale production
>> >
>> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
>> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
>> allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
>> are responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Gerbrand Nel]

Not like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avr7enrZuJQ

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Paulo César Duarte]

Any chances that we can see this Voodoo from Rhythm & Hues, release
commercially?

http://rhythm.com/labs/


2014-03-05 13:45 GMT-03:00 Octavian Ureche :

> No matter what assurances autodesk ever gives, i don't think anyone will
> ever believe them anymore.
> But then again, histories have a way of repeating themselves...
>
> Let's just hope this was the last time they managed to fool us.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Indeed. This decision does make one wonder if this will be a "CUBICOMP"
>> moment for AD M&E.
>>
>> Trust is not something sold like a software maintenance agreement. It's
>> earned. I started using Softimage 20 years ago this very month. In all
>> those years not  even Avid or Microsoft put the production methodology I
>> use in such jeopardy. The work I have been doing in Soft is so heavily
>> dependent ICE now it can't be done the same way or even transferred to Maya
>> or Max. How am I to replace this? There is no current Autodesk equivalent
>> to Softimage, especially in regards to ICE.
>>
>> I understand that softwares mature and new paradigms emerge. I've been
>> through the whole Picturemaker->Vertigo->Picturemaker, Quantel->Express V,
>> PowerAnimator/TAV->Maya, 3dStudio->Max, and SI3D->XSI paradigm shifts. I
>> even suffered through the demise of Aurora, Matador, and Shake. But why
>> isn't there an equivalent alternative to move to before Softimage is
>> terminated? Even if I do migrate to another AD M&E software, can I trust
>> that AD won't abandon it as well? Sketchbook anyone? Can anyone at AD  give
>> me a concrete assurance that this kind of abandonment, and loss of
>> investment, won't happen again?
>>
>> --
>> Joey Ponthieux
>> __
>> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:35 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>>
>> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
>> the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
>> been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
>> are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
>> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>>
>> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
>> to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
>> back if at all possible.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Jordi Bares
>> jordiba...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
>> Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
>> been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
>> Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
>> needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
>> will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
>> details with you:
>> >
>> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
>> >
>> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
>> > service packs for two more years
>> >
>> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to
>> > transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to
>> > continue to use Softimage in production/
>> >
>> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
>> > rental plans if they need to scale production
>> >
>> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
>> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
>> allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Martin]

If it helps, my first job was in a mainly Maya based company and I've never 
touched Maya at that time. They liked my portfolio and never cared what 
software I used. They kindly let me use XSI back again for modeling because as 
you know, modeling in Maya pretty much sucks, specially back then.

When we talk about veteran experts that change a little because you want 
specific top level skills immediately.

But students? nah, the truth is nobody takes very seriously an student software 
knowledge, but their potential and how they use their tools whatever they are. 
They only know about 30% of the software anyways, so if they are willing to 
study and have a good portfolio I'm sure they'll find a job in any Maya, Max or 
whatever but SI based studio.

Martin
Sent from my iPhone

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Sofronis Efstathiou]

Ha! Wise words

Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition and Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk<mailto:sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk>

Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805

Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou

BFX Festival - http://www.bfxfestival.com/

Student Work:
http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation
http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX
http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation

[cid:image001.jpg@01CEC43E.A54FCD10]<http://ncca.bournemouth.ac.uk/>  
[cid:image002.png@01CEC43E.A54FCD10] <http://www.bfxfestival.com/>


[cid:image003.jpg@01CEC43E.A54FCD10]

Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching
with wide scientific and creative applications


On 5 Mar 2014, at 18:02, "Siew Yi Liang" 
mailto:soni...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear educators:

Don't worry about it, students are silly and all think they should be treated 
like gods when it comes to learning tools and have everything laid out for them 
on a plate so they can focus on their 'artistic side'.

I should know, I'm one of them. :P

Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang

On 3/5/2014 8:45 AM, Sofronis Efstathiou wrote:

Having the same conversation with our students tomorrow. But I think they 
always knew why we taught Soft and we always referred to Maya/Max specific 
tools to reassure them the craft uses the same essential tech. The likely hood 
was they would need to reskill at some point in new software, we were never 
precious about that idea. Like Andy says, a grad who can hold a conversation 
about their practise and skill base is always going to do well.  We are also 
going to do a weeks workshop of Soft to Maya transition towards the end of the 
year.

Cheers

Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition and Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: 
sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk<mailto:sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk><mailto:sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk><mailto:sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk>

Tel: +44 (0) 1202 
965805

Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou

BFX Festival - http://www.bfxfestival.com/

Student Work:
http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation
http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX
http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation

[cid:image001.jpg@01CEC43E.A54FCD10]<http://ncca.bournemouth.ac.uk/><http://ncca.bournemouth.ac.uk/>
  [cid:image002.png@01CEC43E.A54FCD10] 
<http://www.bfxfestival.com/><http://www.bfxfestival.com/>


[cid:image003.jpg@01CEC43E.A54FCD10]

Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching
with wide scientific and creative applications


On 5 Mar 2014, at 15:50, "Andy Jones" 
mailto:andy.jo...@gmail.com><mailto:andy.jo...@gmail.com><mailto:andy.jo...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:

If it helps, Angus, as someone who deals with interviewing and crewing/staffing 
people, I can tell you that for us, it is far more important to find people who 
understand how to seek out the best tool they can find for every job and 
actually put it to use, rather than people who just want to tick a box in a 
list of job requirements.  Ticking the box is of course important for 
freelancers at a more senior level on short term gigs, but at the junior level, 
what we care about is potential, the drive to push that potential, and 
personality.  (And outstanding artistic and/or technical abilities, of course).

For example, all things being equal, a kid who walks in and can actually hold 
his own in a conversation with me about how to migrate his skillset from 
Softimage often stands a way better chance than someone who comes in and says 
he "knows Maya."  (We are mostly Maya based in LA).


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za><mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za><mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>>
 wrote:
When we switched from maya to softimage we had an immediate improvement in what 
they were able to deliver. I have no regrets about that. I can understand their 
frustration though, the job market is hard when your starting out and they dont 
really have anywhere else to vent. Sparing with Luc Eric has given me a thick 
skin ;)

Just shows how AD$K's decision has much bigger knock on effects then they 
realise.



From: Maurício PC 
[goneba...@gmail.com<mailto:goneba...@gmail.com><mailto:goneba...@gmail.com><mailto:goneba...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 05 March 2014 05:19 PM
To: 
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com><mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com><mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

If your students are slamming you Angus, they are stupid. The knowledge of 
Softimage is 

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Siew Yi Liang]

Hello Stephen:

I use Bodypaint 3D on a regular basis, but not the C4D main UI as much. 
I tried working with modeling in C4D, and while I like all the mograph 
deformers that are there by default, it isn't ICE. While I like the 
painting tools in BP3D, I tried working with it to change my topology, 
and even I would rather use Maya to do that than work in C4D again...the 
UI just doesn't click for me (oh god the combo keys shortcuts). Even 
right now as it is I have extensively changed most of the shortcuts and 
UI layout in order to be able to paint more efficiently without 
grimacing every few seconds.


But! I am sure that most people should be able to transition to C4D fine 
once they get the hang of it, just be aware it won't be like going from 
XSI > 3ds max or Maya. The UI philosophy is quite different.


Hope that helps somewhat! :)

Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang

On 3/5/2014 9:34 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote:
Joey... we have survived the same Cubicomp, Matador, Softimage/XSI 
roller-coaster ride.
It seems you have had even more rugs, pulled out from under you, than 
I have.
I am at quite a loss as to how to proceed. Calling me "gun-shy" is an 
understatement.


I do NOT want to put as much effort into learning the finer points of 
another software,

to just be put in the same position, yet again.

And just when Redshit3D had come out with such a GREAT GPU render engine.

And, like you said, there is no equivalent to ICE, as far as I can tell.

I am reluctant to go to Maya or 3DMax as they could suffer the same 
demise.
The latest After Effects came bundled with Cinema 4D (lite) and, 
locally, there have

been a LOT of jobs posted that require Cinema 4D.

Anyone have experience with Cinema 4D?


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. 
(LARC-E1A)[LITES] mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> 
wrote:


Indeed. This decision does make one wonder if this will be a
"CUBICOMP" moment for AD M&E.

Trust is not something sold like a software maintenance agreement.
It's earned. I started using Softimage 20 years ago this very
month. In all those years not  even Avid or Microsoft put the
production methodology I use in such jeopardy. The work I have
been doing in Soft is so heavily dependent ICE now it can't be
done the same way or even transferred to Maya or Max. How am I to
replace this? There is no current Autodesk equivalent to
Softimage, especially in regards to ICE.

I understand that softwares mature and new paradigms emerge. I've
been through the whole Picturemaker->Vertigo->Picturemaker,
Quantel->Express V, PowerAnimator/TAV->Maya, 3dStudio->Max, and
SI3D->XSI paradigm shifts. I even suffered through the demise of
Aurora, Matador, and Shake. But why isn't there an equivalent
alternative to move to before Softimage is terminated? Even if I
do migrate to another AD M&E software, can I trust that AD won't
abandon it as well? Sketchbook anyone? Can anyone at AD  give me a
concrete assurance that this kind of abandonment, and loss of
investment, won't happen again?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of
Jordi Bares
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:35 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.

Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA
awards over the last few years where the work done by this close
knit community has been recognised I am shocked you really think
you by killing Softimage you are " committed to providing our
customers with the most technologically advanced products and
highest quality customer service possible"

My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how
easy is to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is
going to get it back if at all possible.

Good luck

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com <mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com>


On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:

> Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future
of Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many
of you have been looking for an official confirmation or denial
from Autodesk. Unfortunately, we were not in a positi

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Siew Yi Liang]

Dear educators:

Don't worry about it, students are silly and all think they should be 
treated like gods when it comes to learning tools and have everything 
laid out for them on a plate so they can focus on their 'artistic side'.


I should know, I'm one of them. :P

Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang

On 3/5/2014 8:45 AM, Sofronis Efstathiou wrote:

Having the same conversation with our students tomorrow. But I think they 
always knew why we taught Soft and we always referred to Maya/Max specific 
tools to reassure them the craft uses the same essential tech. The likely hood 
was they would need to reskill at some point in new software, we were never 
precious about that idea. Like Andy says, a grad who can hold a conversation 
about their practise and skill base is always going to do well.  We are also 
going to do a weeks workshop of Soft to Maya transition towards the end of the 
year.

Cheers

Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition and Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk<mailto:sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk>

Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805

Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou

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Student Work:
http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation
http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX
http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation

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On 5 Mar 2014, at 15:50, "Andy Jones" 
mailto:andy.jo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If it helps, Angus, as someone who deals with interviewing and crewing/staffing 
people, I can tell you that for us, it is far more important to find people who 
understand how to seek out the best tool they can find for every job and 
actually put it to use, rather than people who just want to tick a box in a 
list of job requirements.  Ticking the box is of course important for 
freelancers at a more senior level on short term gigs, but at the junior level, 
what we care about is potential, the drive to push that potential, and 
personality.  (And outstanding artistic and/or technical abilities, of course).

For example, all things being equal, a kid who walks in and can actually hold his own in 
a conversation with me about how to migrate his skillset from Softimage often stands a 
way better chance than someone who comes in and says he "knows Maya."  (We are 
mostly Maya based in LA).


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
When we switched from maya to softimage we had an immediate improvement in what 
they were able to deliver. I have no regrets about that. I can understand their 
frustration though, the job market is hard when your starting out and they dont 
really have anywhere else to vent. Sparing with Luc Eric has given me a thick 
skin ;)

Just shows how AD$K's decision has much bigger knock on effects then they 
realise.



From: Maurício PC [goneba...@gmail.com<mailto:goneba...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 05 March 2014 05:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

If your students are slamming you Angus, they are stupid. The knowledge of 
Softimage is easily transferable as it teach you how to think properly.

I'm certain they would be less artists if they started with the Maya-hell. Oh 
well ... I'm almost buying this Modo 701 special offer. Damn.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
Great getting past students slamming our decision to teach Softimage on 
facebook. Not sorry for teaching the best software for DCC. However we will 
have to teach something else from next year ;(



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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Stephen Davidson]

Joey... we have survived the same Cubicomp, Matador, Softimage/XSI
roller-coaster ride.
It seems you have had even more rugs, pulled out from under you, than I
have.
I am at quite a loss as to how to proceed. Calling me "gun-shy" is an
understatement.

I do NOT want to put as much effort into learning the finer points of
another software,
to just be put in the same position, yet again.

And just when Redshit3D had come out with such a GREAT GPU render engine.

And, like you said, there is no equivalent to ICE, as far as I can tell.

I am reluctant to go to Maya or 3DMax as they could suffer the same demise.
The latest After Effects came bundled with Cinema 4D (lite) and, locally,
there have
been a LOT of jobs posted that require Cinema 4D.

Anyone have experience with Cinema 4D?


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> Indeed. This decision does make one wonder if this will be a "CUBICOMP"
> moment for AD M&E.
>
> Trust is not something sold like a software maintenance agreement. It's
> earned. I started using Softimage 20 years ago this very month. In all
> those years not  even Avid or Microsoft put the production methodology I
> use in such jeopardy. The work I have been doing in Soft is so heavily
> dependent ICE now it can't be done the same way or even transferred to Maya
> or Max. How am I to replace this? There is no current Autodesk equivalent
> to Softimage, especially in regards to ICE.
>
> I understand that softwares mature and new paradigms emerge. I've been
> through the whole Picturemaker->Vertigo->Picturemaker, Quantel->Express V,
> PowerAnimator/TAV->Maya, 3dStudio->Max, and SI3D->XSI paradigm shifts. I
> even suffered through the demise of Aurora, Matador, and Shake. But why
> isn't there an equivalent alternative to move to before Softimage is
> terminated? Even if I do migrate to another AD M&E software, can I trust
> that AD won't abandon it as well? Sketchbook anyone? Can anyone at AD  give
> me a concrete assurance that this kind of abandonment, and loss of
> investment, won't happen again?
>
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:35 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>
> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
> the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
> been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
> are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>
> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
> to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
> back if at all possible.
>
> Good luck
>
> Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel  wrote:
>
> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
> Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
> been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
> Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
> needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
> will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
> details with you:
> >
> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> >
> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
> > service packs for two more years
> >
> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to
> > transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to
> > continue to use Softimage in production/
> >
> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
> > rental plans if they need to scale production
> >
> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
> allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
> are respondi

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Sofronis Efstathiou]

Having the same conversation with our students tomorrow. But I think they 
always knew why we taught Soft and we always referred to Maya/Max specific 
tools to reassure them the craft uses the same essential tech. The likely hood 
was they would need to reskill at some point in new software, we were never 
precious about that idea. Like Andy says, a grad who can hold a conversation 
about their practise and skill base is always going to do well.  We are also 
going to do a weeks workshop of Soft to Maya transition towards the end of the 
year.

Cheers

Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition and Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk<mailto:sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk>

Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805

Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou

BFX Festival - http://www.bfxfestival.com/

Student Work:
http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation
http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX
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On 5 Mar 2014, at 15:50, "Andy Jones" 
mailto:andy.jo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If it helps, Angus, as someone who deals with interviewing and crewing/staffing 
people, I can tell you that for us, it is far more important to find people who 
understand how to seek out the best tool they can find for every job and 
actually put it to use, rather than people who just want to tick a box in a 
list of job requirements.  Ticking the box is of course important for 
freelancers at a more senior level on short term gigs, but at the junior level, 
what we care about is potential, the drive to push that potential, and 
personality.  (And outstanding artistic and/or technical abilities, of course).

For example, all things being equal, a kid who walks in and can actually hold 
his own in a conversation with me about how to migrate his skillset from 
Softimage often stands a way better chance than someone who comes in and says 
he "knows Maya."  (We are mostly Maya based in LA).


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
When we switched from maya to softimage we had an immediate improvement in what 
they were able to deliver. I have no regrets about that. I can understand their 
frustration though, the job market is hard when your starting out and they dont 
really have anywhere else to vent. Sparing with Luc Eric has given me a thick 
skin ;)

Just shows how AD$K's decision has much bigger knock on effects then they 
realise.



From: Maurício PC [goneba...@gmail.com<mailto:goneba...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 05 March 2014 05:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

If your students are slamming you Angus, they are stupid. The knowledge of 
Softimage is easily transferable as it teach you how to think properly.

I'm certain they would be less artists if they started with the Maya-hell. Oh 
well ... I'm almost buying this Modo 701 special offer. Damn.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
Great getting past students slamming our decision to teach Softimage on 
facebook. Not sorry for teaching the best software for DCC. However we will 
have to teach something else from next year ;(



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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Mirko Jankovic]

just small trim

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Morten Bartholdy]

Autodesk has made it thoroughly clear that you cant trust them at all. The
only thing you can count on is they don't care about their customers - they
just want our money.

The very sad part is that even if they manage to improve Maya to a point
where it is not a pain to use and a lot of Soft users make the transition,
they can't be relied on to continue the productline for the user's sake. If
it fits better in to corporate plans they will sell or discontinue it just
like that. What we need is a software company that actually cares about
their customers, so I will definately be on the lookout for just that.

Morten



Den 5. marts 2014 kl. 17:35 skrev "Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]"
:

> Indeed. This decision does make one wonder if this will be a "CUBICOMP"
moment for AD M&E.
>
> Trust is not something sold like a software maintenance agreement. It's
earned. I started using Softimage 20 years ago this very month. In all
those years not  even Avid or Microsoft put the production methodology I
use in such jeopardy. The work I have been doing in Soft is so heavily
dependent ICE now it can't be done the same way or even transferred to Maya
or Max. How am I to replace this? There is no current Autodesk equivalent
to Softimage, especially in regards to ICE.
>
> I understand that softwares mature and new paradigms emerge. I've been
through the whole Picturemaker->Vertigo->Picturemaker, Quantel->Express V,
PowerAnimator/TAV->Maya, 3dStudio->Max, and SI3D->XSI paradigm shifts. I
even suffered through the demise of Aurora, Matador, and Shake. But why
isn't there an equivalent alternative to move to before Softimage is
terminated? Even if I do migrate to another AD M&E software, can I trust
that AD won't abandon it as well? Sketchbook anyone? Can anyone at AD  give
me a concrete assurance that this kind of abandonment, and loss of
investment, won't happen again?
>
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:35 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>
> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>
> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
back if at all possible.
>
> Good luck
>
> Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel 
wrote:
>
> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
details with you:
> >
> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> >
> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
> > service packs for two more years
> >
> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to
> > transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to
> > continue to use Softimage in production/
> >
> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
> > rental plans if they need to scale production
> >
> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
are responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to
upload all the information yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded
> > all the information including a detailed FAQ on
> > www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the
> > interim I have also copied and pasted it below
> >
> >
> >
> > Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit
http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A
webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of
what is new in Softimage 2015.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maurice Patel
> >
> > Autodesk
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Paulo César Duarte]

I believe that as long SitoA and Exocortex Alembic continue being updated,
I can still work with Softimage for another five years without problems,
for more complex tasks such as fluid simulation and volumetric effects,
Alembic is the perfect integration between Softimage and Houdini. I don't
need any other Autodesk product.


2014-03-05 13:45 GMT-03:00 Octavian Ureche :

> No matter what assurances autodesk ever gives, i don't think anyone will
> ever believe them anymore.
> But then again, histories have a way of repeating themselves...
>
> Let's just hope this was the last time they managed to fool us.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
> j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Indeed. This decision does make one wonder if this will be a "CUBICOMP"
>> moment for AD M&E.
>>
>> Trust is not something sold like a software maintenance agreement. It's
>> earned. I started using Softimage 20 years ago this very month. In all
>> those years not  even Avid or Microsoft put the production methodology I
>> use in such jeopardy. The work I have been doing in Soft is so heavily
>> dependent ICE now it can't be done the same way or even transferred to Maya
>> or Max. How am I to replace this? There is no current Autodesk equivalent
>> to Softimage, especially in regards to ICE.
>>
>> I understand that softwares mature and new paradigms emerge. I've been
>> through the whole Picturemaker->Vertigo->Picturemaker, Quantel->Express V,
>> PowerAnimator/TAV->Maya, 3dStudio->Max, and SI3D->XSI paradigm shifts. I
>> even suffered through the demise of Aurora, Matador, and Shake. But why
>> isn't there an equivalent alternative to move to before Softimage is
>> terminated? Even if I do migrate to another AD M&E software, can I trust
>> that AD won't abandon it as well? Sketchbook anyone? Can anyone at AD  give
>> me a concrete assurance that this kind of abandonment, and loss of
>> investment, won't happen again?
>>
>> --
>> Joey Ponthieux
>> __
>> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
>> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:35 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>>
>> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
>> the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
>> been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
>> are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
>> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>>
>> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
>> to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
>> back if at all possible.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Jordi Bares
>> jordiba...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
>> Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
>> been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
>> Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
>> needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
>> will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
>> details with you:
>> >
>> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
>> >
>> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
>> > service packs for two more years
>> >
>> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to
>> > transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to
>> > continue to use Softimage in production/
>> >
>> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
>> > rental plans if they need to scale production
>> >
>> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
>> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Octavian Ureche]

No matter what assurances autodesk ever gives, i don't think anyone will
ever believe them anymore.
But then again, histories have a way of repeating themselves...

Let's just hope this was the last time they managed to fool us.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <
j.ponthi...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> Indeed. This decision does make one wonder if this will be a "CUBICOMP"
> moment for AD M&E.
>
> Trust is not something sold like a software maintenance agreement. It's
> earned. I started using Softimage 20 years ago this very month. In all
> those years not  even Avid or Microsoft put the production methodology I
> use in such jeopardy. The work I have been doing in Soft is so heavily
> dependent ICE now it can't be done the same way or even transferred to Maya
> or Max. How am I to replace this? There is no current Autodesk equivalent
> to Softimage, especially in regards to ICE.
>
> I understand that softwares mature and new paradigms emerge. I've been
> through the whole Picturemaker->Vertigo->Picturemaker, Quantel->Express V,
> PowerAnimator/TAV->Maya, 3dStudio->Max, and SI3D->XSI paradigm shifts. I
> even suffered through the demise of Aurora, Matador, and Shake. But why
> isn't there an equivalent alternative to move to before Softimage is
> terminated? Even if I do migrate to another AD M&E software, can I trust
> that AD won't abandon it as well? Sketchbook anyone? Can anyone at AD  give
> me a concrete assurance that this kind of abandonment, and loss of
> investment, won't happen again?
>
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:35 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>
> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
> the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
> been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
> are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>
> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
> to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
> back if at all possible.
>
> Good luck
>
> Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel  wrote:
>
> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
> Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
> been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
> Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
> needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
> will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
> details with you:
> >
> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> >
> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
> > service packs for two more years
> >
> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to
> > transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to
> > continue to use Softimage in production/
> >
> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
> > rental plans if they need to scale production
> >
> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
> allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
> are responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to
> upload all the information yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded
> > all the information including a detailed FAQ on
> > www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the
> > interim I have also copied and pasted it below
> >
> >
> >
> > Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit
> http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A
> webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of
> what is new in Softimage 2015.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maurice Patel
> >
> > Autodesk
> >
> >
>
>
>


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RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

Indeed. This decision does make one wonder if this will be a "CUBICOMP" moment 
for AD M&E.

Trust is not something sold like a software maintenance agreement. It's earned. 
I started using Softimage 20 years ago this very month. In all those years not  
even Avid or Microsoft put the production methodology I use in such jeopardy. 
The work I have been doing in Soft is so heavily dependent ICE now it can't be 
done the same way or even transferred to Maya or Max. How am I to replace this? 
There is no current Autodesk equivalent to Softimage, especially in regards to 
ICE. 

I understand that softwares mature and new paradigms emerge. I've been through 
the whole Picturemaker->Vertigo->Picturemaker, Quantel->Express V, 
PowerAnimator/TAV->Maya, 3dStudio->Max, and SI3D->XSI paradigm shifts. I even 
suffered through the demise of Aurora, Matador, and Shake. But why isn't there 
an equivalent alternative to move to before Softimage is terminated? Even if I 
do migrate to another AD M&E software, can I trust that AD won't abandon it as 
well? Sketchbook anyone? Can anyone at AD  give me a concrete assurance that 
this kind of abandonment, and loss of investment, won't happen again?

--
Joey Ponthieux
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not 
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:35 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken. 

Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over the 
last few years where the work done by this close knit community has been 
recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you are " 
committed to providing our customers with the most technologically advanced 
products and highest quality customer service possible"

My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is to 
loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it back if 
at all possible.

Good luck

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com


On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel  wrote:

> Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of Softimage 
> posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have been 
> looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk. Unfortunately, 
> we were not in a position to respond until today as we needed to finalize all 
> the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015 will be the last release of 
> the software. I wanted to share some of those details with you:
> 
> -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> 
> -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and 
> service packs for two more years
> 
> -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to 
> transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to 
> continue to use Softimage in production/
> 
> -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or 
> rental plans if they need to scale production
> 
> Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage 
> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not 
> allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
> 
> 
> 
> Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we are 
> responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to upload all 
> the information yet.
> 
> 
> 
> As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded 
> all the information including a detailed FAQ on 
> www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the 
> interim I have also copied and pasted it below
> 
> 
> 
> Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit 
> http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A 
> webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of 
> what is new in Softimage 2015.
> 
> 
> 
> Maurice Patel
> 
> Autodesk
> 
> 

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Angus Davidson]

Hi Andy

Thats great to know. I will definitely pass it on. We teach fundamentals and 
applications not menus items in software. It does help using really solid 
software though ;)

Kind regards

Angus

From: Andy Jones [andy.jo...@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 March 2014 05:48 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

If it helps, Angus, as someone who deals with interviewing and crewing/staffing 
people, I can tell you that for us, it is far more important to find people who 
understand how to seek out the best tool they can find for every job and 
actually put it to use, rather than people who just want to tick a box in a 
list of job requirements.  Ticking the box is of course important for 
freelancers at a more senior level on short term gigs, but at the junior level, 
what we care about is potential, the drive to push that potential, and 
personality.  (And outstanding artistic and/or technical abilities, of course).

For example, all things being equal, a kid who walks in and can actually hold 
his own in a conversation with me about how to migrate his skillset from 
Softimage often stands a way better chance than someone who comes in and says 
he "knows Maya."  (We are mostly Maya based in LA).


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
When we switched from maya to softimage we had an immediate improvement in what 
they were able to deliver. I have no regrets about that. I can understand their 
frustration though, the job market is hard when your starting out and they dont 
really have anywhere else to vent. Sparing with Luc Eric has given me a thick 
skin ;)

Just shows how AD$K's decision has much bigger knock on effects then they 
realise.



From: Maurício PC [goneba...@gmail.com<mailto:goneba...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 05 March 2014 05:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

If your students are slamming you Angus, they are stupid. The knowledge of 
Softimage is easily transferable as it teach you how to think properly.

I'm certain they would be less artists if they started with the Maya-hell. Oh 
well ... I'm almost buying this Modo 701 special offer. Damn.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
Great getting past students slamming our decision to teach Softimage on 
facebook. Not sorry for teaching the best software for DCC. However we will 
have to teach something else from next year ;(



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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Andy Jones]

If it helps, Angus, as someone who deals with interviewing and
crewing/staffing people, I can tell you that for us, it is far more
important to find people who understand how to seek out the best tool they
can find for every job and actually put it to use, rather than people who
just want to tick a box in a list of job requirements.  Ticking the box is
of course important for freelancers at a more senior level on short term
gigs, but at the junior level, what we care about is potential, the drive
to push that potential, and personality.  (And outstanding artistic and/or
technical abilities, of course).

For example, all things being equal, a kid who walks in and can actually
hold his own in a conversation with me about how to migrate his skillset
from Softimage often stands a way better chance than someone who comes in
and says he "knows Maya."  (We are mostly Maya based in LA).


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Angus Davidson wrote:

>  When we switched from maya to softimage we had an immediate improvement
> in what they were able to deliver. I have no regrets about that. I can
> understand their frustration though, the job market is hard when your
> starting out and they dont really have anywhere else to vent. Sparing with
> Luc Eric has given me a thick skin ;)
>
>  Just shows how AD$K's decision has much bigger knock on effects then
> they realise.
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Maurício PC [goneba...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 05 March 2014 05:19 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>   If your students are slamming you Angus, they are stupid. The knowledge
> of Softimage is easily transferable as it teach you how to think properly.
>
>  I'm certain they would be less artists if they started with the
> Maya-hell. Oh well ... I'm almost buying this Modo 701 special offer. Damn.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Angus Davidson 
> wrote:
>
>>   Great getting past students slamming our decision to teach Softimage
>> on facebook. Not sorry for teaching the best software for DCC. However we
>> will have to teach something else from next year ;(
>>
>>
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RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Angus Davidson]

When we switched from maya to softimage we had an immediate improvement in what 
they were able to deliver. I have no regrets about that. I can understand their 
frustration though, the job market is hard when your starting out and they dont 
really have anywhere else to vent. Sparing with Luc Eric has given me a thick 
skin ;)

Just shows how AD$K's decision has much bigger knock on effects then they 
realise.



From: Maurício PC [goneba...@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 March 2014 05:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

If your students are slamming you Angus, they are stupid. The knowledge of 
Softimage is easily transferable as it teach you how to think properly.

I'm certain they would be less artists if they started with the Maya-hell. Oh 
well ... I'm almost buying this Modo 701 special offer. Damn.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
Great getting past students slamming our decision to teach Softimage on 
facebook. Not sorry for teaching the best software for DCC. However we will 
have to teach something else from next year ;(



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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Maurício PC]

If your students are slamming you Angus, they are stupid. The knowledge of
Softimage is easily transferable as it teach you how to think properly.

I'm certain they would be less artists if they started with the Maya-hell.
Oh well ... I'm almost buying this Modo 701 special offer. Damn.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Angus Davidson wrote:

>   Great getting past students slamming our decision to teach Softimage on
> facebook. Not sorry for teaching the best software for DCC. However we will
> have to teach something else from next year ;(
>
>
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RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Angus Davidson]

Great getting past students slamming our decision to teach Softimage on 
facebook. Not sorry for teaching the best software for DCC. However we will 
have to teach something else from next year ;(





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Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Jimmy Juergens]

My thought exactly!

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Michal Doniec]

I am far removed from hands on production these days, but still a sad day
and the decision feels a bit premature.

As for the future, I'd just keep the eyes and mind open. There is a lot of
innovation happening and maybe a "shock" like this was needed to accelerate
it further.


On 5 March 2014 09:40, Jacob Gonzalez  wrote:

> I have been reading all the posts and thinking about what everyone said.
> In the next few month freelancers and companies will have to decide which
> way to go:
>
> 1 - Stick with softimage for the next 2 years or so  -  Mainly hoping
> something new come across, or maybe  Houdini, Modo, Fabric become a safe
> option (some of you think Houdini already is -  but depends the type of
> projects you do)
> 2-  Switch to Houdini
> 3 - Switch to Maya -  this may be the safer bet. Maya has some good stuff
> but overall Softimage it's a much better 3D Applcation so it hurts!
>
> - If I was a small Soft house with not a huge pipeline I would stick with
> Softimage for at least 2 years. Who knows? you may be able to avoid
> switching to Maya after all and instead go for a more XXI century DCC.
> There would be a lot of freelancers out of there who would want to work for
> you :)
>
> - As a freelancer I think I will eventually go for Maya if the  market
> dictates so. Try to enjoy what's good in Maya and buy lots of Paracetamol
> for the headaches :). Bu if there is enough nice softimage work I would
> stick with it for the next couple of years hoping for the new "Softimage"
> to make it! Houdini is tempting as well, but I am unsure at the moment.
>
> It's interested to read what everyone is saying as we all have to make a
> decission!
>
>
> J
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Arvid Björn  wrote:
>
>> Hehe :)
>>
>> :(
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Sam Cuttriss  wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcDn8gVPY_8
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Leoung O'Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maurice,
>>>>
>>>> I know you are in a very difficult situation with a lot of angry XSI
>>>> users.
>>>> It is a sad day for us here since been using since the early 1990 but
>>>> didn't upgrade when Autodesk bought XSI so we are still using Version 7.1
>>>> due to number of circumstances.
>>>> Is there a chance for us to upgrade to Softimage/XSI 2014 at this time?
>>>> We are in a very difficult position since we have a lot of assets in
>>>> XSI.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for you time.
>>>> Leoung
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/03/2014 7:21 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>> Yes you will. Service packs and hot fixes are provided to all
>>>>> customers whether they are on Subscription or not. It is only extension
>>>>> releases that were exclusive to Subscription customers
>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>
>>>>> Maurice Patel
>>>>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>>>>
>>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>>>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Turman
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:17 PM
>>>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>>>>
>>>>> Maurice,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to
>>>>> upgrade my license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, 
>>>>> will
>>>>> I be entitled to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta
>>>>> participation for said packs? How is that supposed to work?
>>>>>
>>>>> -=Eric Turman
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel <
>>>>> maurice.pa...@autodesk.com<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Sven
>>>>> Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to
>>>>> either bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not
>>>>> for free). As was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go
>>>>> away too - but for all Autodesk products
>>>>> maurice
>>>>>
>>>>> Maurice Patel
>>>>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>>>>
>>>&g

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Jacob Gonzalez]

I have been reading all the posts and thinking about what everyone said. In
the next few month freelancers and companies will have to decide which way
to go:

1 - Stick with softimage for the next 2 years or so  -  Mainly hoping
something new come across, or maybe  Houdini, Modo, Fabric become a safe
option (some of you think Houdini already is -  but depends the type of
projects you do)
2-  Switch to Houdini
3 - Switch to Maya -  this may be the safer bet. Maya has some good stuff
but overall Softimage it's a much better 3D Applcation so it hurts!

- If I was a small Soft house with not a huge pipeline I would stick with
Softimage for at least 2 years. Who knows? you may be able to avoid
switching to Maya after all and instead go for a more XXI century DCC.
There would be a lot of freelancers out of there who would want to work for
you :)

- As a freelancer I think I will eventually go for Maya if the  market
dictates so. Try to enjoy what's good in Maya and buy lots of Paracetamol
for the headaches :). Bu if there is enough nice softimage work I would
stick with it for the next couple of years hoping for the new "Softimage"
to make it! Houdini is tempting as well, but I am unsure at the moment.

It's interested to read what everyone is saying as we all have to make a
decission!


J




On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Arvid Björn  wrote:

> Hehe :)
>
> :(
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Sam Cuttriss  wrote:
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcDn8gVPY_8
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Leoung O'Young wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maurice,
>>>
>>> I know you are in a very difficult situation with a lot of angry XSI
>>> users.
>>> It is a sad day for us here since been using since the early 1990 but
>>> didn't upgrade when Autodesk bought XSI so we are still using Version 7.1
>>> due to number of circumstances.
>>> Is there a chance for us to upgrade to Softimage/XSI 2014 at this time?
>>> We are in a very difficult position since we have a lot of assets in XSI.
>>>
>>> Thanks for you time.
>>> Leoung
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/03/2014 7:21 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>> Yes you will. Service packs and hot fixes are provided to all customers
>>>> whether they are on Subscription or not. It is only extension releases that
>>>> were exclusive to Subscription customers
>>>> Maurice
>>>>
>>>> Maurice Patel
>>>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>>>
>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Turman
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:17 PM
>>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>>>
>>>> Maurice,
>>>>
>>>> I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to
>>>> upgrade my license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, will
>>>> I be entitled to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta
>>>> participation for said packs? How is that supposed to work?
>>>>
>>>> -=Eric Turman
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel <
>>>> maurice.pa...@autodesk.com<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Sven
>>>> Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to
>>>> either bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not
>>>> for free). As was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go
>>>> away too - but for all Autodesk products
>>>> maurice
>>>>
>>>> Maurice Patel
>>>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-
>>>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-bounces@
>>>> listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Sven Constable
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
>>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.
>>>> autodesk.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>>>
>>>> Maurice,
>>>> It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing
>>>> perpetual network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015
>>>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Arvid Björn]

Hehe :)

:(



On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Sam Cuttriss  wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcDn8gVPY_8
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Leoung O'Young wrote:
>
>> Hi Maurice,
>>
>> I know you are in a very difficult situation with a lot of angry XSI
>> users.
>> It is a sad day for us here since been using since the early 1990 but
>> didn't upgrade when Autodesk bought XSI so we are still using Version 7.1
>> due to number of circumstances.
>> Is there a chance for us to upgrade to Softimage/XSI 2014 at this time?
>> We are in a very difficult position since we have a lot of assets in XSI.
>>
>> Thanks for you time.
>> Leoung
>>
>>
>> On 04/03/2014 7:21 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> Yes you will. Service packs and hot fixes are provided to all customers
>>> whether they are on Subscription or not. It is only extension releases that
>>> were exclusive to Subscription customers
>>> Maurice
>>>
>>> Maurice Patel
>>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>>
>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
>>> listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Turman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:17 PM
>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>>
>>> Maurice,
>>>
>>> I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to
>>> upgrade my license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, will
>>> I be entitled to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta
>>> participation for said packs? How is that supposed to work?
>>>
>>> -=Eric Turman
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel <
>>> maurice.pa...@autodesk.com<mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi Sven
>>> Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to either
>>> bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not for
>>> free). As was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go away
>>> too - but for all Autodesk products
>>> maurice
>>>
>>> Maurice Patel
>>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-
>>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-bounces@
>>> listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
>>> On Behalf Of Sven Constable
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.
>>> autodesk.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>>
>>> Maurice,
>>> It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing
>>> perpetual network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015
>>> (perpetual
>>> +network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-
>>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
>>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>> oftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Maurice Patel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.
>>> autodesk.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>>
>>> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
>>> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
>>> products worldwide).
>>> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>>>
>>> -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have
>>> purchased
>>> Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
>>>
>>> -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
>>> will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage
>>> or 3ds Max+Softimage bundle
>>>
>>> -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
>>> additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
>>> capacity
>>>
>>> -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage
>>> license
>>> will not be able 

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Szabolcs Matefy]

I just wanted to add my 2 cents. It was hard to fall asleep last night, I was 
lookin through my options, and I was looking at the fact why I was using 
Softimage for more than 10 years.

To start off, I started with Max, for 4 years. Then I realized how shit this 
application is, and found LW, with better modeling, and even more better 
rendering. Meanwhile I worked with Maya (my initial sympathy to maya turned to 
massive disgust how bad it was), and then came Softimage. During the years me 
and my colleagues worked with Softimage for the following reasons (without any 
particular order):

-   Pivot placement using the ALT key
-   Operator stack
-   Fast modeling
-   Sticky key/supra key
-   Groupings
-   Selection
-   MCP
-   Region render
-   Rendertree
-   Animation
-   Drag and drop on animateable parameters
-   ICE

And the list would go on...these features, as far as I know are not present in 
Maya nor Max.

So, Autodesk, please don't tell us, that you are on high-tech and so on, 
because you just killed high-tech and innovation with Softimage

I accuse you with the murder of Softimage. I do hope that all decision maker 
will suffer once, because I believe that all is coming around. So I wish 
autodesk a friendly f.ck ye!

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leoung O'Young
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:40 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Hi Maurice,

I know you are in a very difficult situation with a lot of angry XSI users.
It is a sad day for us here since been using since the early 1990 but didn't 
upgrade when Autodesk bought XSI so we are still using Version 7.1 due to 
number of circumstances.
Is there a chance for us to upgrade to Softimage/XSI 2014 at this time?
We are in a very difficult position since we have a lot of assets in XSI.

Thanks for you time.
Leoung

On 04/03/2014 7:21 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> Yes you will. Service packs and hot fixes are provided to all 
> customers whether they are on Subscription or not. It is only 
> extension releases that were exclusive to Subscription customers 
> Maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric 
> Turman
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:17 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Maurice,
>
> I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to upgrade my 
> license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, will I be 
> entitled to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta participation 
> for said packs? How is that supposed to work?
>
> -=Eric Turman
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel 
> mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
> Hi Sven
> Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to 
> either bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though 
> (not for free). As was mentioned on a previous thread next year those 
> will go away too - but for all Autodesk products maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-bounces@listp
> roc.autodesk.com> 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-bounc
> e...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
> To: 
> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> >
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Maurice,
> It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing 
> perpetual network/floating license from previous versions to version  
> 2015 (perpetual
> +network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-bounces@listp
> roc.autodesk.com> 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-bounc
> e...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Maurice Patel
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
> To: 
> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> >
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th 
> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk 
> products worldwide).
> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Sam Cuttriss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcDn8gVPY_8


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Leoung O'Young wrote:

> Hi Maurice,
>
> I know you are in a very difficult situation with a lot of angry XSI users.
> It is a sad day for us here since been using since the early 1990 but
> didn't upgrade when Autodesk bought XSI so we are still using Version 7.1
> due to number of circumstances.
> Is there a chance for us to upgrade to Softimage/XSI 2014 at this time?
> We are in a very difficult position since we have a lot of assets in XSI.
>
> Thanks for you time.
> Leoung
>
>
> On 04/03/2014 7:21 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>> Yes you will. Service packs and hot fixes are provided to all customers
>> whether they are on Subscription or not. It is only extension releases that
>> were exclusive to Subscription customers
>> Maurice
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
>> listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Turman
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:17 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> Maurice,
>>
>> I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to
>> upgrade my license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, will
>> I be entitled to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta
>> participation for said packs? How is that supposed to work?
>>
>> -=Eric Turman
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel > <mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Sven
>> Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to either
>> bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not for
>> free). As was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go away
>> too - but for all Autodesk products
>> maurice
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-
>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-bounces@
>> listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Sven Constable
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.
>> autodesk.com>
>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> Maurice,
>> It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing
>> perpetual network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015
>> (perpetual
>> +network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-
>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> oftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Maurice Patel
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.
>> autodesk.com>
>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
>> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
>> products worldwide).
>> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>>
>> -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have
>> purchased
>> Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
>>
>> -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
>> will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or
>> 3ds Max+Softimage bundle
>>
>> -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
>> additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
>> capacity
>>
>> -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage
>> license
>> will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
>> maurice
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-
>> boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> oftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.
>> autodesk.com>
&

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Leoung O'Young]

Hi Maurice,

I know you are in a very difficult situation with a lot of angry XSI users.
It is a sad day for us here since been using since the early 1990 but 
didn't upgrade when Autodesk bought XSI so we are still using Version 7.1

due to number of circumstances.
Is there a chance for us to upgrade to Softimage/XSI 2014 at this time?
We are in a very difficult position since we have a lot of assets in XSI.

Thanks for you time.
Leoung

On 04/03/2014 7:21 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:

Hi Eric,
Yes you will. Service packs and hot fixes are provided to all customers whether 
they are on Subscription or not. It is only extension releases that were 
exclusive to Subscription customers
Maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Turman
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:17 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Maurice,

I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to upgrade my 
license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, will I be entitled 
to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta participation for said 
packs? How is that supposed to work?

-=Eric Turman

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel 
mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
Hi Sven
Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to either 
bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not for free). As 
was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go away too - but for 
all Autodesk products
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

-Original Message-
From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Maurice,
It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing perpetual 
network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015 (perpetual
+network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?

-Original Message-
From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Maurice Patel
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th (which 
is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk products 
worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that we 
cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new 
costumers the same time it will be released?

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on 
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
(NLM) AFTER march 28?


From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement



From: Jason 

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Andre De Angelis]

*While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
even a year ago!*


People here could have a field day editing that with subtitles.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Dan Yargici  wrote:

> While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
> even a year ago!
>
> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>
>> Oh my god, this gets better and better with every passing hour! hahaha.
>> Where's my pop corn?
>>
>> Eric T.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:54:41 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
>>
>>> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
>>> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
>>> products worldwide).
>>> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>>>
>>> -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have
>>> purchased Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
>>>
>>> -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on
>>> Subscription, will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the
>>> Maya+Softimage or 3ds Max+Softimage bundle
>>>
>>> -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
>>> additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
>>> capacity
>>>
>>> -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage
>>> license will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
>>> maurice
>>>
>>> Maurice Patel
>>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Andre De Angelis

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Andre De Angelis]

*I'm just really sorry for how it was done, because it was not quite what
was originally intended.*


No disrespect to you Graham, but whatever was intended was never going to
make the news any more palatable or deserving of a grateful response from
the user base.  How it was done is irrelevant and blaming partners for not
sticking to the script is pretty lame.  AS's decision is almost as bad for
them as it is for the users.

We all knew this outcome was inevitable from the day Autodesk acquired
Softimage.  After all, when it comes to acquiring innovative technology and
killing it, AD has few equals.




On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Graham Bell wrote:

> Now we've gone public with the official announcement, I can stick my head
> above the parapet.
>
> Breaking the news to a loyal user base that their preferred software was
> being retired was never going to be easy, and Autodesk knew that. Rumours
> had begun to surface in the last few weeks, but myself and others were
> remaining silent so agreed plans and communications could be finalised.
> It's unfortunately that some of our partners couldn't honour these plans in
> same way.
> I'm just really sorry for how it was done, because it was not quite what
> was originally intended.
>
> I'd always intended on posting some thoughts and observations, but don't
> want to get into a lengthy debate, so I'll keep this post as short as
> possible, say my piece and get the hell out.
> It's sometimes hard to defend history, so I won't try to. People will no
> doubt call BS at me and others over things said in the past, and that's
> totally their prerogative. But personally I have always spoken in good
> faith and I've never deliberately misled anyone and I've always tried to be
> as honest as I can be.
>
>
> On a personal note (takes Autodesk hat off), one thing I'd like to say is
> that I'm genuinely gutted and sad to see the end of Softimage.
> I maybe be just another Autodesk idiot to some, but I've also been a
> customer and user. I joined Psygnosis in 1996, which was my first job in
> games development and where I cut my teeth in games. It was also where I
> was introduced to a 3D package that I would come to love - Softimage 3D.
> And from there my Softimage journey to this point would begin.
>
> My wish and hope now, is that some of the amazing goodness from Softimage,
> (be it people, features, workflows and philosophy) continues in some way,
> shape or form. Some of that is already happening right now within Autodesk,
>  and that (imho) can only be a good thing. Because the more of that
> goodness that gets out there, then the less room there is for some of the
> crap.
>
> Finally I'd like to thank you guys here, because through this community
> and others throughout the years, you guys made the product what it is. Sure
> you guys give us a hard time, but personally I wouldn't have it any other
> way as it helps keep us on our toes. I have had some debates with some
> people here and si-community, but my goal has never been to antagonise.
> I've always tried to be as open and as up front as possible.
> I really hope that communities such as the list and si-community don't die
> off as that really would be a shame.
>
>
>
>
> If you want some more information around the transition plans and our
> products, then Maurice is posting on the list, so let him know any queries
> you might have, as some of you already have.
> If you want to ask me questions around this announcement, then of course
> pvt mail me off list. I'll try my best to answer any queries.
>
>
>
>
> Graham
>
>
> From: Dave Thomlison mailto:dthomli...@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>"  softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:28:55 -0500
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>"  softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Suck a fat one, Autodesk execs.  This industry is already artist-hostile
> as it is.  And how can you possibly open a letter such as this with
> "committed to providing [y]our customers with the most technologically
> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible" ??
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Steve Parish  <mailto:porkypar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I don't actually see anything to aid the transition. How about some
> courses? Videos? The approach (so far) has been to "just use something
> else". For a company that has just screwed a portion of its users, I

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Maurice Patel]

Hi Eric,
Yes you will. Service packs and hot fixes are provided to all customers whether 
they are on Subscription or not. It is only extension releases that were 
exclusive to Subscription customers
Maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Turman
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 7:17 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Maurice,

I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to upgrade my 
license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, will I be entitled 
to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta participation for said 
packs? How is that supposed to work?

-=Eric Turman

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel 
mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
Hi Sven
Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to either 
bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not for free). As 
was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go away too - but for 
all Autodesk products
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

-Original Message-
From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Maurice,
It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing perpetual 
network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015 (perpetual
+network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?

-Original Message-
From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Maurice Patel
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th (which 
is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk products 
worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that we 
cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new 
costumers the same time it will be released?

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on 
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
(NLM) AFTER march 28?


From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement



From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com<mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement --snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some software 
just never truely dies.
This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential.
If you have received th

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Eric Turman]

Let me clarify, will I be entitled to the service pack(s) hotfixes, and
beta participation for said packs and support after I lapse maintenance?
How is that supposed to work?


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Eric Turman  wrote:

> Maurice,
>
> I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to upgrade
> my license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, will I be
> entitled to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta participation
> for said packs? How is that supposed to work?
>
> -=Eric Turman
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sven
>> Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to either
>> bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not for
>> free). As was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go away
>> too - but for all Autodesk products
>> maurice
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> Maurice,
>> It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing
>> perpetual network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015
>> (perpetual
>> +network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Maurice
>> Patel
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
>> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
>> products worldwide).
>> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>>
>> -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have
>> purchased
>> Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
>>
>> -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
>> will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or
>> 3ds Max+Softimage bundle
>>
>> -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
>> additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
>> capacity
>>
>> -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage
>> license
>> will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
>> maurice
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven
>> Constable
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>> Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says
>> that we cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
>> I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new
>> costumers the same time it will be released?
>>
>> What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on
>> subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
>> (NLM) AFTER march 28?
>>
>>
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus
>> Davidson
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement --snip
>>
>> Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
>> Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some
>> software just never truely dies.
>> This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential.
>> If you have received this communication in error, please notify us
>> immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or
>> disseminate this comm

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Eric Turman]

Maurice,

I am on maintenance through April of this year. If I choose not to upgrade
my license because I do not want to lose my perpetual license, will I be
entitled to the mentioned service pack(s) hotfixes, and beta participation
for said packs? How is that supposed to work?

-=Eric Turman


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:

> Hi Sven
> Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to either
> bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not for
> free). As was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go away
> too - but for all Autodesk products
> maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Maurice,
> It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing perpetual
> network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015 (perpetual
> +network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Maurice
> Patel
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
> products worldwide).
> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>
> -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have
> purchased
> Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
>
> -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
> will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or
> 3ds Max+Softimage bundle
>
> -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
> additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
> capacity
>
> -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage
> license
> will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
> maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven
> Constable
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that
> we cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
> I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new
> costumers the same time it will be released?
>
> What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on
> subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
> (NLM) AFTER march 28?
>
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus
> Davidson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
> 
> From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement --snip
>
> Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
> Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some
> software just never truely dies.
> This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential.
> If you have received this communication in error, please notify us
> immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or
> disseminate this communication without the permission of the University.
> Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on
> behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content
> of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may
> contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not
> necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand,
> Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are
> subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the
> contrary.
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 




-=T=-

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Maurice Patel]

Hi Sven
Yes you can upgrade. The price list will contain upgrade paths to either 
bundle. These will be at standard upgrade price rates though (not for free). As 
was mentioned on a previous thread next year those will go away too - but for 
all Autodesk products
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134


-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:27 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Maurice,
It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing perpetual 
network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015 (perpetual
+network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Patel
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th (which 
is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk products 
worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that we 
cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new 
costumers the same time it will be released?

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on 
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
(NLM) AFTER march 28?


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement



From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement --snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some software 
just never truely dies.
This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential.
If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately 
and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this 
communication without the permission of the University.
Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of 
the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message 
may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views 
and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of 
The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the 
University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University 
agrees in writing to the contrary.





<>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Sebastien Sterling]

+1 tim


On 4 March 2014 23:26, Tim Crowson  wrote:

> I say we co-opt "Everything Is Awesome" as the Softimage theme song. :-D
>
> -Tim C.
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Tim Crowson]

I say we co-opt "Everything Is Awesome" as the Softimage theme song. :-D

-Tim C.

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Emilio Hernandez]

Well we will be undeground Softimagers and Autodesk will need to start
hunting us down.

Good luck Autodesk.  See you in hell!




2014-03-04 17:26 GMT-06:00 Sven Constable :

> Maurice,
> It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing perpetual
> network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015 (perpetual
> +network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Maurice
> Patel
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
> products worldwide).
> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>
> -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have
> purchased
> Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
>
> -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
> will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or
> 3ds Max+Softimage bundle
>
> -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
> additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
> capacity
>
> -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage
> license
> will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
> maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven
> Constable
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that
> we cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
> I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new
> costumers the same time it will be released?
>
> What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on
> subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
> (NLM) AFTER march 28?
>
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus
> Davidson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
> 
> From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement --snip
>
> Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
> Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some
> software just never truely dies.
> This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential.
> If you have received this communication in error, please notify us
> immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or
> disseminate this communication without the permission of the University.
> Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on
> behalf
> of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this
> message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the
> personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the
> views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg.
> All
> agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South
> African
> Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Sven Constable]

Maurice,
It is still unclear to me. Is it possible to upgrade an existing perpetual
network/floating license from previous versions to version  2015 (perpetual
+network/floating license). Without any subscription or bundles?

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Patel
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
(which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
products worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or
3ds Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that
we cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new
costumers the same time it will be released?

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
(NLM) AFTER march 28?


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement



From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement --snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some
software just never truely dies.
This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential.
If you have received this communication in error, please notify us
immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or
disseminate this communication without the permission of the University.
Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf
of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this
message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the
personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the
views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All
agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African
Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Morten Bartholdy]

Look at his eyes darting around. He is lying through his teeth - he was
told to sit in front of that camera and bullshit us all. Disgusting.

Morten



Den 4. marts 2014 kl. 22:01 skrev Dan Yargici :

> While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not even
> a year ago!
> 
> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Eric Thivierge < ethivie...@hybride.com
>  > wrote:
> > better with every passing hour! hahaha. Where's my pop corn?
> > 
> > Eric T.
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:54:41 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
> > > licenses to customers on March 28th (which is when the new 2014 price list
> > > goes into effect for all Autodesk products worldwide).
> > > Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
> > > 
> > > -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have
> > > purchased Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
> > > 
> > > -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
> > > will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or
> > > 3ds Max+Softimage bundle
> > > 
> > > -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
> > > additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
> > > capacity
> > > 
> > > -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage
> > > license will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
> > > maurice
> > > 
> > > Maurice Patel
> > > Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134 =?9aaf2d45-1354-43bf-a4cc-d73b2b69ef7b--
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Mihai Iliuta]

AUTOFUCKHEADS you fucking maggots. You fucking pieces of shit. There will
be no way in hell I will every use another Autodesk application ever again.
Could be a beautiful world but the greed of maggots like you has to turn
yet another brilliant creation, into shit. Because it's all about the
fucking money. About the fucking money. Fuck you. I'm supposed to use the
retarted piece of shit that is 3dMax, or Maya - which compared to the
workflow elegance of Softimage, is like having your teeth pulled out. This
is the beginning of your fucking demise and I will do everything I can to
help see it happen, the sooner the better. And for those ex-SI devs that
are still working for these pieces of shit, get out, find a project and get
back the pride and passion you felt when you were working in something you
believed in and were proud of - instead of this faceless, dead, greedy soul
sucking black hole that is Autodesk. For the maggots that run this shit
company: Do you think you can stand up against the rest of the competition
AND developers that still do what they do because of passion and not
because of fucking money??? You are dumber than shit, and this "brilliant"
move is just another nail in your coffin.

To the marketing cocksuckers congratulating themselves on their strategy -
a quote from the late great Bill Hicks:
"If you're in marketing..kill yourself. Just kill yourself right now.
You are the ruiner of all things good, you fucking evil scumbags."

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Daniel Brassard wrote:

> To all the Devs, past and present, Thanks for a great product, your
> support and dedication.
>
> Its a sad day indead. See you on the other Side (FX)...
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Octavian Ureche  wrote:
>
>> Sad fucking day.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Nicholas Breslow wrote:
>>
>>>  Clearly Autodesk is feeling the heat from the competition.  Check out
>>> these prices!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.daz3d.com/software/daz-studio-4/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I feel like these are the types of discussions that have been taking
>>> place at ADHQ lately:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Let's make a version of 3DSMax called 3DSMax Design so we can confuse
>>> the hell out of our customers!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Let's make a version of Maya called Maya LT so we can annoy the hell
>>> out of our customers!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Let's make a version of Softimage called Softimage 2015 EOL so our
>>> customers can tell us to go to hell!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Let's make a free character generator!!!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm pouring out a little bit of my latte as a sign of respect for our
>>> fallen brother, Softimage.  I hope the list keeps going so I can find out
>>> where all you amazing people wind up investing your efforts (I will likely
>>> follow you).  The lack of creativity in how the death of this truly
>>> creative piece of software is being handled is very telling.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher
>>> Crouzet
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:23 PM
>>> *To:* Softimage Mailing List
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That video is gold!
>>>
>>> He actually seems disturbed... like if he knew that he was lying. Could
>>> totally be used as an animation reference!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4 March 2014 16:08, Steven Caron  wrote:
>>>
>>>  he looked nervous...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Dan Yargici 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
>>> even a year ago!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Christopher Crouzet
>>> *http://christophercrouzet.com* <http://christophercrouzet.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Octavian Ureche
>>  +40 732 774 313 (GMT+2)
>>  Animation & Visual Effects
>>   www.okto.ro
>>
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Daniel Brassard]

To all the Devs, past and present, Thanks for a great product, your support
and dedication.

Its a sad day indead. See you on the other Side (FX)...

Dan


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Octavian Ureche  wrote:

> Sad fucking day.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Nicholas Breslow wrote:
>
>>  Clearly Autodesk is feeling the heat from the competition.  Check out
>> these prices!
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.daz3d.com/software/daz-studio-4/
>>
>>
>>
>> I feel like these are the types of discussions that have been taking
>> place at ADHQ lately:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Let's make a version of 3DSMax called 3DSMax Design so we can confuse
>> the hell out of our customers!"
>>
>>
>>
>> "Let's make a version of Maya called Maya LT so we can annoy the hell out
>> of our customers!"
>>
>>
>>
>> "Let's make a version of Softimage called Softimage 2015 EOL so our
>> customers can tell us to go to hell!"
>>
>>
>>
>> "Let's make a free character generator!!!"
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm pouring out a little bit of my latte as a sign of respect for our
>> fallen brother, Softimage.  I hope the list keeps going so I can find out
>> where all you amazing people wind up investing your efforts (I will likely
>> follow you).  The lack of creativity in how the death of this truly
>> creative piece of software is being handled is very telling.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher
>> Crouzet
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:23 PM
>> *To:* Softimage Mailing List
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>>
>>
>> That video is gold!
>>
>> He actually seems disturbed... like if he knew that he was lying. Could
>> totally be used as an animation reference!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 March 2014 16:08, Steven Caron  wrote:
>>
>>  he looked nervous...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Dan Yargici  wrote:
>>
>>  While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
>> even a year ago!
>>
>>
>>
>> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Christopher Crouzet
>> *http://christophercrouzet.com* <http://christophercrouzet.com>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Octavian Ureche
>  +40 732 774 313 (GMT+2)
>  Animation & Visual Effects
>   www.okto.ro
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Octavian Ureche]

Sad fucking day.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Nicholas Breslow  wrote:

>  Clearly Autodesk is feeling the heat from the competition.  Check out
> these prices!
>
>
>
> http://www.daz3d.com/software/daz-studio-4/
>
>
>
> I feel like these are the types of discussions that have been taking place
> at ADHQ lately:
>
>
>
> "Let's make a version of 3DSMax called 3DSMax Design so we can confuse the
> hell out of our customers!"
>
>
>
> "Let's make a version of Maya called Maya LT so we can annoy the hell out
> of our customers!"
>
>
>
> "Let's make a version of Softimage called Softimage 2015 EOL so our
> customers can tell us to go to hell!"
>
>
>
> "Let's make a free character generator!!!"
>
>
>
> I'm pouring out a little bit of my latte as a sign of respect for our
> fallen brother, Softimage.  I hope the list keeps going so I can find out
> where all you amazing people wind up investing your efforts (I will likely
> follow you).  The lack of creativity in how the death of this truly
> creative piece of software is being handled is very telling.
>
>
>
> -Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher
> Crouzet
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:23 PM
> *To:* Softimage Mailing List
>
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
>
> That video is gold!
>
> He actually seems disturbed... like if he knew that he was lying. Could
> totally be used as an animation reference!
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 March 2014 16:08, Steven Caron  wrote:
>
>  he looked nervous...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Dan Yargici  wrote:
>
>  While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
> even a year ago!
>
>
>
> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Crouzet
> *http://christophercrouzet.com* <http://christophercrouzet.com>
>
>
>



-- 
Octavian Ureche
 +40 732 774 313 (GMT+2)
 Animation & Visual Effects
  www.okto.ro

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Nicholas Breslow]

Clearly Autodesk is feeling the heat from the competition.  Check out these 
prices!

http://www.daz3d.com/software/daz-studio-4/

I feel like these are the types of discussions that have been taking place at 
ADHQ lately:

"Let's make a version of 3DSMax called 3DSMax Design so we can confuse the hell 
out of our customers!"

"Let's make a version of Maya called Maya LT so we can annoy the hell out of 
our customers!"

"Let's make a version of Softimage called Softimage 2015 EOL so our customers 
can tell us to go to hell!"

"Let's make a free character generator!!!"

I'm pouring out a little bit of my latte as a sign of respect for our fallen 
brother, Softimage.  I hope the list keeps going so I can find out where all 
you amazing people wind up investing your efforts (I will likely follow you).  
The lack of creativity in how the death of this truly creative piece of 
software is being handled is very telling.

-Nick


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Christopher 
Crouzet
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:23 PM
To: Softimage Mailing List
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

That video is gold!
He actually seems disturbed... like if he knew that he was lying. Could totally 
be used as an animation reference!


On 4 March 2014 16:08, Steven Caron mailto:car...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
he looked nervous...

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Dan Yargici 
mailto:danyarg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not even a 
year ago!

http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future




--
Christopher Crouzet
http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Anthor]

So Long, Softimage. It was great while the fun lasted, 
Then it was a long slow slide into oblivion. 
Anthor

On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 17:01:12 +, Maurice Patel wrote:
> Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of 
> Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of 
> you have been looking for an official confirmation or denial from 
> Autodesk. Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until 
> today as we needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes 
> Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software. I wanted to 
> share some of those details with you:
> 
> -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> 
> -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and 
> service packs for two more years
> 
> -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to 
> transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to 
> continue to use Softimage in production/
> 
> -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats 
> and/or rental plans if they need to scale production
> 
> Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to 
> Softimage customers today. I have copied it here as our email 
> distribution lists not allow us to send it to those who have opted 
> out.
> 
> 
> 
> Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, 
> we are responding now but please note our web sites have not had time 
> to upload all the information yet.
> 
> 
> 
> As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have 
> loaded all the information including a detailed FAQ on 
> www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the 
> interim I have also copied and pasted it below
> 
> 
> 
> Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit 
> http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live 
> Q&A webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full 
> documentation of what is new in Softimage 2015.
> 
> 
> 
> Maurice Patel
> 
> Autodesk
> 
> 
> [Description: Autodesk]
> 
> 
> Autodesk Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> 
> 
> To discuss your transition options Contact a 
> 
Reseller<https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/etrack.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&FORMID=bbdca7c18a1535b1ffbc24725fe642a3&INTID=08f974dac32ba2380b1348731c570ede&AUDID=dc482f8407033a7eeebee55a40d54b838da4a93ff9131343&DECODE=1&URL=https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/delivery/linktracking/lmark.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&LID=a1ede08e74ba134ecee55317ea02deb4>
> 
> 
> March 4, 2014
> 
> Dear Softimage Customer,
> 
> We are committed to providing our customers with the most 
> technologically advanced products and highest quality customer 
> service possible. After careful consideration, it has become 
> necessary to make some changes to our software portfolio in order to 
> continue to do so.
> 
> We therefore regret to inform you that the upcoming 2015 release will 
> be the last one for Autodesk(r) Softimage(r), which is expected to 
> ship on April 14, 2014. Autodesk will continue to offer product 
> support until Apr 30, 2016. We will also provide any necessary 
> hot-fixes and service packs to all customers, at no cost, until Apr 
> 30, 2016.
> 
> We understand that you will now need time to re-evaluate your 
> production capabilities. To help you, we are offering Autodesk(r) 
> Subscription customers special no cost options to migrate to either 
> Autodesk(r) Maya(r) or Autodesk(r) 3ds Max(r) while continuing to use 
> Softimage in production. These options will be available until Feb 1, 
> 2016. Upgrade paths are also available for customers who are not on 
> Subscription.
> 
> As of March 28, 2014, Softimage will no longer be available for sale 
> to new customers. However, we will provide existing customers with 
> the option to purchase either additional software licenses or new 
> rental plans until Feb 1, 2016. Our goal is to give you the 
> flexibility you need to continue to use, and scale, Softimage in 
> production during the transition to either Maya or 3ds Max.
> 
> The Autodesk Entertainment Creation Suite (ECS) Premium will no 
> longer be available for sale as of March 28, 2014. ECS Premium 
> customers on Subscription will receive Autodesk ECS Ultimate, at no 
> additional cost. We will also be reducing the price of ECS Ultimate 
> software and Subscription. Softimage 2015 will remain part of ECS 
> Ultimate for a transition period of two-years, after which it will be 
> removed.
> 
> Although this decision is a difficult one, we do believe that by 
&

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Morten Bartholdy]

How on earth are they going to make that old bloated platform perform
anything like Softimage? Are they doing a full rewrite?

Morten



Den 4. marts 2014 kl. 19:10 skrev Maurice Patel
:

> Hi Chris,
> Yes, a team has been created in R&D to look at exactly this.  Many of the
Softimage team are working on areas such as animation and modeling these
products and the ICE workflow is influencing the design of new workflows
like Bifrost.
> Maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Covelli
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:55 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on
implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
>
> Chris Covelli
> http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
> http://exocortex.com/products/species
> TurboSquid
Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau
mailto:marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com>>
wrote:
> I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team
are making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience
to good use
> for Softimage users.
>
>
> From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
On Behalf Of Jens Lindgren
> Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:21
> To:
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> My thought exactly!
>
> Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at
the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will
be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending
on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage
license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract
for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use
Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya.
>
> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk
Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk
customer anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
>
> /Jens
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris
mailto:matt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no
access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with
older data is to end our subscription?
>
>
> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel
mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr>> wrote:
> ...
>
>
>
> --
> www.matinai.com<http://www.matinai.com>
>
>
>
> --
> Jens Lindgren
> --
> Lead Technical Director
> Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Christopher Crouzet]

That video is gold!
He actually seems disturbed... like if he knew that he was lying. Could
totally be used as an animation reference!



On 4 March 2014 16:08, Steven Caron  wrote:

> he looked nervous...
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Dan Yargici  wrote:
>
>> While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
>> even a year ago!
>>
>> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
>>
>>
>>


-- 
Christopher Crouzet
*http://christophercrouzet.com* 

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Sven Constable]

"-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
capacity"

Wait. I am a existing costumer and I just want to upgrade an existing
network license (2011) to the last 2015 version. No subscription, no bundles
with max or maya. I just want to have a perpetual network/floating license
of Softimage 2015.
Did you just say, that this is not possible?



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Patel
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
(which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
products worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or
3ds Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that
we cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new
costumers the same time it will be released?

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
(NLM) AFTER march 28?


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement



From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement --snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some
software just never truely dies.
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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Emilio Hernandez]

I am still on shock, although I knew it right from the very beginning that
Autodesk bought Softimage.

Thanks for leaving us with a crappy software as Maya compared to Sofftimage.

You are not getting my money anymore.






2014-03-04 15:08 GMT-06:00 Steven Caron :

> he looked nervous...
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Dan Yargici  wrote:
>
>> While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
>> even a year ago!
>>
>> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
>>
>>
>>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[javier gonzalez]

So new user have to crack softimage in order to use it?


2014-03-04 22:08 GMT+01:00 Steven Caron :

> he looked nervous...
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Dan Yargici  wrote:
>
>> While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
>> even a year ago!
>>
>> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
>>
>>
>>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Morten Bartholdy]

Amen to that Jordi!

Morten Bartholdy



Den 4. marts 2014 kl. 18:35 skrev Jordi Bares :

> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>
> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>
> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
back if at all possible.
>
> Good luck
>
> Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel 
wrote:
>
> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
details with you:
> >
> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> >
> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
service packs for two more years
> >
> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to
transition to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to
continue to use Softimage in production/
> >
> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
rental plans if they need to scale production
> >
> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
are responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to
upload all the information yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded
all the information including a detailed FAQ on
www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the
interim I have also copied and pasted it below
> >
> >
> >
> > Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit
http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A
webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of
what is new in Softimage 2015.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maurice Patel
> >
> > Autodesk
> >
> >
> > [Description: Autodesk]
> >
> >
> > Autodesk Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> >
> >
> > To discuss your transition options Contact a
Reseller<https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/etrack.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&FORMID=bbdca7c18a1535b1ffbc24725fe642a3&INTID=08f974dac32ba2380b1348731c570ede&AUDID=dc482f8407033a7eeebee55a40d54b838da4a93ff9131343&DECODE=1&URL=https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/delivery/linktracking/lmark.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&LID=a1ede08e74ba134ecee55317ea02deb4>
> >
> >
> > March 4, 2014
> >
> > Dear Softimage Customer,
> >
> > We are committed to providing our customers with the most
technologically advanced products and highest quality customer service
possible. After careful consideration, it has become necessary to make some
changes to our software portfolio in order to continue to do so.
> >
> > We therefore regret to inform you that the upcoming 2015 release will
be the last one for Autodesk(r) Softimage(r), which is expected to ship on
April 14, 2014. Autodesk will continue to offer product support until Apr
30, 2016. We will also provide any necessary hot-fixes and service packs to
all customers, at no cost, until Apr 30, 2016.
> >
> > We understand that you will now need time to re-evaluate your
production capabilities. To help you, we are offering Autodesk(r)
Subscription customers special no cost options to migrate to either
Autodesk(r) Maya(r) or Autodesk(r) 3ds Max(r) while continuing to use
Softimage in production. These options will be available until Feb 1, 2016.
Upgrade paths are also available for customers who are not on Subscription.
> >
> > As of March 28, 2014, Softimage will no longer be available for sale to
new customers. However, we will provide existing customers with the option
to purchase either additional software licenses or new rental plans until
Feb 1, 2016. Our goal is to give you the flexib

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Angus Davidson]

The is no Softimge, only Zuul!



From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 11:02 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

there will no longer be any Softimage


On 03/04/14 15:54, Maurice Patel wrote:
> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th 
> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk 
> products worldwide).
> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>
> -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased 
> Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
>
> -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription, 
> will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
> Max+Softimage bundle
>
> -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase 
> additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra 
> capacity
>
> -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license 
> will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
> maurice
>
> Maurice Patel
> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
> Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that we 
> cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
> I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new 
> costumers the same time it will be released?
>
> What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on 
> subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015 
> (NLM) AFTER march 28?
>
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
> ____________
> From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> --snip
>
> Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
> Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some software 
> just never truely dies.
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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Steven Caron]

he looked nervous...


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Dan Yargici  wrote:

> While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not
> even a year ago!
>
> http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future
>
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Christoph Muetze]

On 04/03/14 21:54, Maurice Patel wrote:

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased 
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription, will 
be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase 
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra capacity


Just checked... my subscription ends on March 24th ...OF COURSE :/

guess I'll stick to 2014 then...

what a $%$%$ $$ß%$& day.

'Chris

P.S.: No, I'm not trying to ask for a grace period here. I already know 
the answer :(

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Morten Bartholdy]

I am calling bullshit on pretty much all of the statements made by Autodesk
which I earlier disliked and now really hate.

I knew this was coming and still, having seen the official statement, it
made me sick to my stomach.

Autodesk is not committed to anything other than maximizing marketshare and
profit. This is understandable for a large commercial corporation, but
trying to pass as caring for their customers rings very false when we are
now forced towards lesser tools. It is hard to understand that they think
they haven't alienated a sizable amount of people/users to a degree that
they think we would want to migrate to the fat old lady Maya or even worse,
Max.

Sure, many here will have to migrate and I seriously hope they will get
their sh*t together and develop a properly useful tool. The name is
somewhat irrelevant, but having killed the best overall functioning
platform, it is hard to think they will actually succeed. I think that if
they really knew how to make Maya a good DCC, the past years development of
said platform should have looked a lot better than is the case. It will be
interesting to see what actually becomes of Maya/Bifrost.

I will stick to XSI for as long as it makes sense and look hard for non AD
alternatives. Even if they manage to make Maya better to the point that it
is not a pain to use, I will prefer an equal non AD tool anytime!

Hoping for better times for us all...

Morten Bartholdy



Den 4. marts 2014 kl. 18:01 skrev Maurice Patel
:

> Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
details with you:
>
> -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
>
> -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
service packs for two more years
>
> -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to transition
to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to continue to use
Softimage in production/
>
> -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
rental plans if they need to scale production
>
> Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
>
>
>
> Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
are responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to
upload all the information yet.
>
>
>
> As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded
all the information including a detailed FAQ on
www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the
interim I have also copied and pasted it below
>
>
>
> Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit
http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A
webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of
what is new in Softimage 2015.
>
>
>
> Maurice Patel
>
> Autodesk
>
>
> [Description: Autodesk]
>
>
> Autodesk Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
> To discuss your transition options Contact a
Reseller<https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/etrack.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&FORMID=bbdca7c18a1535b1ffbc24725fe642a3&INTID=08f974dac32ba2380b1348731c570ede&AUDID=dc482f8407033a7eeebee55a40d54b838da4a93ff9131343&DECODE=1&URL=https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/delivery/linktracking/lmark.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&LID=a1ede08e74ba134ecee55317ea02deb4>
>
>
> March 4, 2014
>
> Dear Softimage Customer,
>
> We are committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
advanced products and highest quality customer service possible. After
careful consideration, it has become necessary to make some changes to our
software portfolio in order to continue to do so.
>
> We therefore regret to inform you that the upcoming 2015 release will be
the last one for Autodesk(r) Softimage(r), which is expected to ship on
April 14, 2014. Autodesk will continue to offer product support until Apr
30, 2016. We will also provide any necessary hot-fixes and service packs to
all customers, at no cost, until Apr 30, 2016.
>
> We understand that you will now need time to re-evaluate your production
capabilities. To help you, we are offering Autodesk(r) Subscription
customers special no cost options to migrate to either Autodesk(r) Maya(r)
or Autodesk(r) 3ds Max(r) while continuing to use Softimage in production.
These opti

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Jason S]

there will no longer be any Softimage


On 03/04/14 15:54, Maurice Patel wrote:

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th (which 
is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk products 
worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased 
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription, will 
be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase 
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license 
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that we 
cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new 
costumers the same time it will be released?

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on 
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015 
(NLM) AFTER march 28?


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement



From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
--snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some software 
just never truely dies.
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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Dan Yargici]

While you try and find it, remind yourself of this little gem from not even
a year ago!

http://area.autodesk.com/2014unfold/products/softimage.html#future


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote:

> Oh my god, this gets better and better with every passing hour! hahaha.
> Where's my pop corn?
>
> Eric T.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:54:41 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
>
>> Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th
>> (which is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk
>> products worldwide).
>> Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.
>>
>> -   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have
>> purchased Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.
>>
>> -   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription,
>> will be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or
>> 3ds Max+Softimage bundle
>>
>> -   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase
>> additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra
>> capacity
>>
>> -   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage
>> license will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
>> maurice
>>
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>>
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Siew Yi Liang]

Dear Mr. Patel:

I don't like responding to 'business' posts but this is a little odd. So 
you're saying that the work of the Singapore team will only be enjoyed 
by people who are already Softimage users and no new licenses for 
hobbyists/students (like me) are allowed?


Is there some legal reasoning behind not allowing new users to purchase 
new licenses before the March 28th deadline? I graduate in a couple of 
months and I would very much like to have the ability to use Softimage 
on my own by getting my own license after my educational license 
expires. Is this no longer possible?


Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang

On 3/4/2014 12:54 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th (which 
is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk products 
worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased 
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription, will 
be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase 
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license 
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that we 
cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new 
costumers the same time it will be released?

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on 
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015 
(NLM) AFTER march 28?


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement



From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
--snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some software 
just never truely dies.
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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Eric Thivierge]

Oh my god, this gets better and better with every passing hour! hahaha. 
Where's my pop corn?


Eric T.

On Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:54:41 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th (which 
is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk products 
worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased 
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription, will 
be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase 
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license 
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Maurice Patel]

Autodesk will stop selling Softimage licenses to customers on March 28th (which 
is when the new 2014 price list goes into effect for all Autodesk products 
worldwide).
Basically there will no longer be any Softimage SKUs in that price list.

-   Softimage 2015 will be delivered to all customers who have purchased 
Softimage prior to that date and who are on Subscription.

-   After March 28th, existing customers who are not on Subscription, will 
be able to upgrade their Softimage licenses to the Maya+Softimage or 3ds 
Max+Softimage bundle

-   After March 28th, existing customers will be able to purchase 
additional seats (or rental plans) of those bundles if they need extra capacity

-   As a result a customer who  does not already own a Softimage license 
will not be able to buy Softimage 2015
maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 3:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that we 
cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.
I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new 
costumers the same time it will be released?

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on 
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015 
(NLM) AFTER march 28?


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement



From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
--snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...
Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some software 
just never truely dies.
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<>

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Sven Constable]

Softimage 2015 will be released at April 14 but the announcement says that
we cannot purchase standalone licences as of march 28.

I don't get it. Does it mean the new version won't be available for new
costumers the same time it will be released?

 

What about upgrading existing floating licences when you are not on
subscription? I'm using 2011 (NLM, no SAP). Can I upgrade to Softimage2015
(NLM) AFTER march 28?

 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:22 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

 

 

  _  

From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

--snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...

Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some
software just never truely dies.



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RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Angus Davidson]

From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 10:19 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

--snip

Reminds me of the DS killing..  History repeating so it seems ...

Reminds me of spotting  3DS showing up in the LOTR making of's. Some software 
just never truely dies.



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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Paulo César Duarte]

Very sad, but I will continue using Softimage until there is some other 3d
program so versatile, fast and powerful. I intend not to use any Autodesk
product for now, after years of dedication it can be discontinued again.
That's how Autodesk tends to act by buying competitors and eliminating them.

Cheers.
Paulo Duarte


2014-03-04 16:59 GMT-03:00 Angus Davidson :

>  Hi Graham
>
>  You will always have my respect for what it worth. We haven't always
> agreed but we have always been able see the awesomeness that Softimage is,
> and will always will be.
>
>  Kind regards
>
>  Angus
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Graham Bell [graham.b...@autodesk.com]
> *Sent:* 04 March 2014 09:55 PM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>   Now we've gone public with the official announcement, I can stick my head
> above the parapet.
>
>
>  Breaking the news to a loyal user base that their preferred software was
> being retired was never going to be easy, and Autodesk knew that. Rumours
> had begun to surface in the last few weeks, but myself and others were
> remaining silent so agreed plans and communications could be finalised.
> It's unfortunately that some of our partners couldn't honour these plans in
> same way.
>
> I'm just really sorry for how it was done, because it was not quite what
> was originally intended.
>
>
>  I'd always intended on posting some thoughts and observations, but don't
> want to get into a lengthy debate, so I'll keep this post as short as
> possible, say my piece and get the hell out.
>
> It's sometimes hard to defend history, so I won't try to. People will no
> doubt call BS at me and others over things said in the past, and that's
> totally their prerogative. But personally I have always spoken in good
> faith and I've never deliberately misled anyone and I've always tried to
> be as honest as I can be.
>
>
>
>  On a personal note (takes Autodesk hat off), one thing I'd like to say
> is that I'm genuinely gutted and sad to see the end of Softimage.
>
> I maybe be just another Autodesk idiot to some, but I've also been a
> customer and user. I joined Psygnosis in 1996, which was my first job in
> games development and where I cut my teeth in games. It was also where I
> was introduced to a 3D package that I would come to love - Softimage 3D. And
> from there my Softimage journey to this point would begin.
>
>
>  My wish and hope now, is that some of the amazing goodness from
> Softimage, (be it people, features, workflows and philosophy) continues
> in some way, shape or form. Some of that is already happening right now
> within Autodesk,  and that (imho) can only be a good thing. Because the
> more of that goodness that gets out there, then the less room there is for
> some of the crap.
>
>
>  Finally I'd like to thank you guys here, because through this community
> and others throughout the years, you guys made the product what it is. Sure
> you guys give us a hard time, but personally I wouldn't have it any other
> way as it helps keep us on our toes. I have had some debates with some
> people here and si-community, but my goal has never been to
> antagonise. I've always tried to be as open and as up front as possible.
>
> I really hope that communities such as the list and si-community don't die
> off as that really would be a shame.
>
>
>
>
>
>  If you want some more information around the transition plans and our
> products, then Maurice is posting on the list, so let him know any
> queries you might have, as some of you already have.
>
> If you want to ask me questions around this announcement, then of
> course pvt mail me off list. I'll try my best to answer any queries.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Graham
>
>
>
>   From: Dave Thomlison 
> Reply-To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" <
> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
>
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:28:55 -0500
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
>
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>  Suck a fat one, Autodesk execs.  This industry is already artist-hostile
> as it is.  And how can you possibly open a letter such as this with "committed
> to providing [y]our customers with the most technologically advanced
> products and highest quality customer service possible" ??
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Steve Parish wrote:
>
>> I don't actually see anything to aid the transition. How about some
>> courses? Videos? The approach (so far) has been to "ju

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Angus Davidson]

Hi Graham

You will always have my respect for what it worth. We haven't always agreed but 
we have always been able see the awesomeness that Softimage is, and will always 
will be.

Kind regards

Angus



From: Graham Bell [graham.b...@autodesk.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 09:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Now we’ve gone public with the official announcement, I can stick my head above 
the parapet.

Breaking the news to a loyal user base that their preferred software was being 
retired was never going to be easy, and Autodesk knew that. Rumours had begun 
to surface in the last few weeks, but myself and others were remaining silent 
so agreed plans and communications could be finalised. It’s unfortunately that 
some of our partners couldn’t honour these plans in same way.
I’m just really sorry for how it was done, because it was not quite what was 
originally intended.

I’d always intended on posting some thoughts and observations, but don’t want 
to get into a lengthy debate, so I’ll keep this post as short as possible, say 
my piece and get the hell out.
It’s sometimes hard to defend history, so I won’t try to. People will no doubt 
call BS at me and others over things said in the past, and that’s totally their 
prerogative. But personally I have always spoken in good faith and I’ve never 
deliberately misled anyone and I’ve always tried to be as honest as I can be.


On a personal note (takes Autodesk hat off), one thing I’d like to say is that 
I’m genuinely gutted and sad to see the end of Softimage.
I maybe be just another Autodesk idiot to some, but I’ve also been a customer 
and user. I joined Psygnosis in 1996, which was my first job in games 
development and where I cut my teeth in games. It was also where I was 
introduced to a 3D package that I would come to love – Softimage 3D. And from 
there my Softimage journey to this point would begin.

My wish and hope now, is that some of the amazing goodness from Softimage, (be 
it people, features, workflows and philosophy) continues in some way, shape or 
form. Some of that is already happening right now within Autodesk,  and that 
(imho) can only be a good thing. Because the more of that goodness that gets 
out there, then the less room there is for some of the crap.

Finally I’d like to thank you guys here, because through this community and 
others throughout the years, you guys made the product what it is. Sure you 
guys give us a hard time, but personally I wouldn’t have it any other way as it 
helps keep us on our toes. I have had some debates with some people here and 
si-community, but my goal has never been to antagonise. I’ve always tried to be 
as open and as up front as possible.
I really hope that communities such as the list and si-community don’t die off 
as that really would be a shame.




If you want some more information around the transition plans and our products, 
then Maurice is posting on the list, so let him know any queries you might 
have, as some of you already have.
If you want to ask me questions around this announcement, then of course pvt 
mail me off list. I’ll try my best to answer any queries.




Graham


From: Dave Thomlison mailto:dthomli...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: 
"softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:28:55 -0500
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Suck a fat one, Autodesk execs.  This industry is already artist-hostile as it 
is.  And how can you possibly open a letter such as this with "committed to 
providing [y]our customers with the most technologically advanced products and 
highest quality customer service possible" ??


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Steve Parish 
mailto:porkypar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don't actually see anything to aid the transition. How about some courses? 
Videos? The approach (so far) has been to "just use something else". For a 
company that has just screwed a portion of its users, I would have thought they 
would have bent over backwards to keep their loyalty.

Its funny, I've known about this for a while and yet I knew when the news was 
announced it would be done completely unprofessionally, thanks for living up to 
my expectations Autodesk.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Alex Arce 
mailto:aa.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015 feature set...
http://area.autodesk.com/userdata/products/What's_New_in_Autodesk_Softimage_2015_latest.pdf

would have liked to see something a bit more exciting.




--
Dave Thomlison



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intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this 
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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Graham Bell]

Now we’ve gone public with the official announcement, I can stick my head above 
the parapet.

Breaking the news to a loyal user base that their preferred software was being 
retired was never going to be easy, and Autodesk knew that. Rumours had begun 
to surface in the last few weeks, but myself and others were remaining silent 
so agreed plans and communications could be finalised. It’s unfortunately that 
some of our partners couldn’t honour these plans in same way.
I’m just really sorry for how it was done, because it was not quite what was 
originally intended.

I’d always intended on posting some thoughts and observations, but don’t want 
to get into a lengthy debate, so I’ll keep this post as short as possible, say 
my piece and get the hell out.
It’s sometimes hard to defend history, so I won’t try to. People will no doubt 
call BS at me and others over things said in the past, and that’s totally their 
prerogative. But personally I have always spoken in good faith and I’ve never 
deliberately misled anyone and I’ve always tried to be as honest as I can be.


On a personal note (takes Autodesk hat off), one thing I’d like to say is that 
I’m genuinely gutted and sad to see the end of Softimage.
I maybe be just another Autodesk idiot to some, but I’ve also been a customer 
and user. I joined Psygnosis in 1996, which was my first job in games 
development and where I cut my teeth in games. It was also where I was 
introduced to a 3D package that I would come to love – Softimage 3D. And from 
there my Softimage journey to this point would begin.

My wish and hope now, is that some of the amazing goodness from Softimage, (be 
it people, features, workflows and philosophy) continues in some way, shape or 
form. Some of that is already happening right now within Autodesk,  and that 
(imho) can only be a good thing. Because the more of that goodness that gets 
out there, then the less room there is for some of the crap.

Finally I’d like to thank you guys here, because through this community and 
others throughout the years, you guys made the product what it is. Sure you 
guys give us a hard time, but personally I wouldn’t have it any other way as it 
helps keep us on our toes. I have had some debates with some people here and 
si-community, but my goal has never been to antagonise. I’ve always tried to be 
as open and as up front as possible.
I really hope that communities such as the list and si-community don’t die off 
as that really would be a shame.




If you want some more information around the transition plans and our products, 
then Maurice is posting on the list, so let him know any queries you might 
have, as some of you already have.
If you want to ask me questions around this announcement, then of course pvt 
mail me off list. I’ll try my best to answer any queries.




Graham


From: Dave Thomlison mailto:dthomli...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: 
"softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:28:55 -0500
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Suck a fat one, Autodesk execs.  This industry is already artist-hostile as it 
is.  And how can you possibly open a letter such as this with "committed to 
providing [y]our customers with the most technologically advanced products and 
highest quality customer service possible" ??


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Steve Parish 
mailto:porkypar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don't actually see anything to aid the transition. How about some courses? 
Videos? The approach (so far) has been to "just use something else". For a 
company that has just screwed a portion of its users, I would have thought they 
would have bent over backwards to keep their loyalty.

Its funny, I've known about this for a while and yet I knew when the news was 
announced it would be done completely unprofessionally, thanks for living up to 
my expectations Autodesk.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Alex Arce 
mailto:aa.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015 feature set...
http://area.autodesk.com/userdata/products/What's_New_in_Autodesk_Softimage_2015_latest.pdf

would have liked to see something a bit more exciting.




--
Dave Thomlison
<>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Dave Thomlison]

Suck a fat one, Autodesk execs.  This industry is already artist-hostile as
it is.  And how can you possibly open a letter such as this with "committed
to providing [y]our customers with the most technologically advanced
products and highest quality customer service possible" ??


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Steve Parish  wrote:

> I don't actually see anything to aid the transition. How about some
> courses? Videos? The approach (so far) has been to "just use something
> else". For a company that has just screwed a portion of its users, I would
> have thought they would have bent over backwards to keep their loyalty.
>
> Its funny, I've known about this for a while and yet I knew when the news
> was announced it would be done completely unprofessionally, thanks for
> living up to my expectations Autodesk.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Alex Arce  wrote:
>
>> 2015 feature set...
>>
>> http://area.autodesk.com/userdata/products/What's_New_in_Autodesk_Softimage_2015_latest.pdf
>>
>> would have liked to see something a bit more exciting.
>>
>
>


-- 
Dave Thomlison

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Sam Cuttriss]

3D apps used to drift naturally into irrelevance, eclipsed by a competitors
paradigm shifting new technology.
Today they merely atrophy on the autodesk vine, starved of light
(promotional energy) ,nutrients (development resources) and robbed of their
fruit (intellectual property).
Goodbye Softimage, it has been a great 14 years
Goodbye Autodesk,  I have no words for you

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Steve Parish]

I don't actually see anything to aid the transition. How about some
courses? Videos? The approach (so far) has been to "just use something
else". For a company that has just screwed a portion of its users, I would
have thought they would have bent over backwards to keep their loyalty.

Its funny, I've known about this for a while and yet I knew when the news
was announced it would be done completely unprofessionally, thanks for
living up to my expectations Autodesk.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Alex Arce  wrote:

> 2015 feature set...
>
> http://area.autodesk.com/userdata/products/What's_New_in_Autodesk_Softimage_2015_latest.pdf
>
> would have liked to see something a bit more exciting.
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Greg Punchatz]

Amen


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Rob Wuijster  wrote:
> 
> If they're at it, have them rip out the hideous 
> Renderlayers/Passes/Contribution Maps mess, and implement something that 
> works like in Softimage...
> 
> \/-\/\/
> On 4-3-2014 19:10, Maurice Patel wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> Yes, a team has been created in R&D to look at exactly this.  Many of the 
>> Softimage team are working on areas such as animation and modeling these 
>> products and the ICE workflow is influencing the design of new workflows 
>> like Bifrost.
>> Maurice
>> 
>> Maurice Patel
>> Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134
>> 
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Covelli
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:55 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>> 
>> Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on 
>> implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
>> 
>> Chris Covelli
>> http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
>> http://exocortex.com/products/species
>> TurboSquid 
>> Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau 
>> mailto:marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com>>
>>  wrote:
>> I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team 
>> are making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience to 
>> good use
>> for Softimage users.
>> 
>> 
>> From: 
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
>>  
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
>>  On Behalf Of Jens Lindgren
>> Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:21
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
>> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>> 
>> My thought exactly!
>> 
>> Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at 
>> the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will 
>> be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending on 
>> your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage license 
>> after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract for a 
>> period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use Softimage but 
>> will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya.
>> 
>> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk 
>> Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk 
>> customer anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
>> 
>> /Jens
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris 
>> mailto:matt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no 
>> access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with 
>> older data is to end our subscription?
>> 
>> 
>> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel 
>> mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr>> wrote:
>> ...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> www.matinai.com<http://www.matinai.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Jens Lindgren
>> --
>> Lead Technical Director
>> Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Alex Arce]

2015 feature set...
http://area.autodesk.com/userdata/products/What's_New_in_Autodesk_Softimage_2015_latest.pdf

would have liked to see something a bit more exciting.

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Daniel Kim]

What a shocking news in this morning... Greedy AD kills a legendary
software in CG industry...
I am hoping any other companies buy Softimage... and seriously thinking
changing tool to Modo or... something else...
So shame


---
Daniel Kim
Animation Director & Professional 3D Generalist
http://www.danielkim3d.com
---




On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:38 AM, boeingh...@s-farm.de
wrote:

>   so, this is the beginning of the end of softimage. to me a really bad
> decision that makes me sad, but i have to live with it.
>
>  In the retrospective it was just a matter of time that one of the big
> three (maya, max & softimage) would die, because they operate on the same
> market...
>
>
> Juhani Karlsson  hat am 4. März 2014 um 19:26
> geschrieben:
>
>  If one has to decide between Bifrost or Houdini now - they must be
> pretty dumb to go with Bifrost. Who knows when that will be terminated? ; )
>  I hope most of the 3rd party developers will start to looking into FE and
> Houdini.
>
>
>  On 4 March 2014 20:19, Francisco Criado  wrote:
>
> Hi Lawrence, i used flame for almost 3 years, and have to agree with you
> that is an excelent tool, but i was refering to the market in general, with
> nuke on the market rules changed, and autodesk didn't do anything about
> it?
> Combustion? dead
>  Toxic? no thanks
>  Flame? 140.000 dollars, yes i know it comes with the hardware, but if i
> have to make a new compositing department for a movie i wont spend that
> money foe each compositor, and you can say flare, but there are no users on
> market.
>  So...autodesk bad decisions.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Lawrence Nimrichter < xsiuse...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Flame is doing quite well and is considered high end compositing. The new
> versions have garnered lots of excitement from the flame artists around
> here.
>
>
>  On Mar 4, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Francisco Criado < malcriad...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Its funny to see Autodesk failing over and over again, they dissapeared
> from the high end compositing scenario having great tools,  and now this.
> I' m adquiring products from now on with The Foundry family, they just
> have one product for each area of post, and keep it simple.
>  F.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Chris Covelli < ch...@polygonpusherinc.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on
> implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
>
>   Chris Covelli
> http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
> http://exocortex.com/products/species
> TurboSquid 
> Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>
>
>
>  On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau <
> marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com> wrote:
>
>  I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his
> team are making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI
> experience to good use
>
> for Softimage users.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jens Lindgren
> *Sent:* 4 mars 2014 12:21
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
>
> My thought exactly!
>
>
>
> *Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at
> the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will
> be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending
> on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage
> license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract
> for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use
> Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya. *
>
>
>
> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk
> Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk
> customer anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
>
>
>
> /Jens
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris  wrote:
>
> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no
> access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with
> older data is to end our subscription?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel  wrote:
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>--
> Juhani Karlsson
> 3D Artist/TD
>
> Talvi Digital Oy
> Pursimiehenkatu 29-31 b 2krs.
> 00150 Helsinki
> +358 443443088
> juhani.karls...@talvi.fi
> www.vimeo.com/talvi
>
>
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Daniel Sweeney]

First port of call is to take an about face turn on this "you will not be
able to use your license after 2016". Company's have done 10 years upwards
on this software. people need to open old scenes for as long as needed.

Just disrespectful.




Daniel Sweeney
3D Creative Director

*Mobile:* +44 (0)7743429771
*Email:* dan...@northforge.co.uk
*Web:* http://northforge.co.uk


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Daniel H  wrote:

> Reluctantly we knew from the beginning Autodesk was just out to rape and
> pillage Softimage. Now it's all over and we can use SI for another year or
> two and then move on to Houdini. Right now I only need three things: Some
> witty verbal whips from Raffaele Fragapane, a glorious speech from
> Softimage 5-Star General Stephen Blair, and a nice cross-over discount from
> SideFX. :)
>
> Daniel
> VFXM
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[boeingh...@s-farm.de]

so, this is the beginning of the end of softimage. to me a really bad decision
that makes me sad, but i have to live with it.

In the retrospective it was just a matter of time that one of the big three
(maya, max & softimage) would die, because they operate on the same market...


> Juhani Karlsson  hat am 4. März 2014 um 19:26
> geschrieben:
> 
>  If one has to decide between Bifrost or Houdini now - they must be pretty
> dumb to go with Bifrost. Who knows when that will be terminated? ; )
>  I hope most of the 3rd party developers will start to looking into FE and
> Houdini.
> 
> 
>  On 4 March 2014 20:19, Francisco Criado  <mailto:malcriad...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> > Hi Lawrence, i used flame for almost 3 years, and have to agree with
>> > you that is an excelent tool, but i was refering to the market in
>> > general, with nuke on the market rules changed, and autodesk didn't do
>> > anything about it?
> >Combustion? dead
> >Toxic? no thanks
> >Flame? 140.000 dollars, yes i know it comes with the hardware, but if i
> > have to make a new compositing department for a movie i wont spend that
> > money foe each compositor, and you can say flare, but there are no users on
> > market.
> >So...autodesk bad decisions.
> > 
> > 
> >On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Lawrence Nimrichter < xsiuse...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:xsiuse...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >  > > >  Flame is doing quite well and is considered high end
> >  > > > compositing. The new versions have garnered lots of excitement
> >  > > > from the flame artists around here.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  On Mar 4, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Francisco Criado < malcriad...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  > > > > Its funny to see Autodesk failing over and over again,
> > >  > > > > they dissapeared from the high end compositing scenario
> > >  > > > > having great tools,  and now this.
> > > >  I' m adquiring products from now on with The Foundry family,
> > > > they just have one product for each area of post, and keep it simple.
> > > >  F.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Chris Covelli <
> > > > ch...@polygonpusherinc.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >Sorry if this question was answered
> > > >> > > > > already, but does Autodesk plan on implementing any
> > > >> > > > > of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
> > > > > 
> > > > >Chris Covelli
> > > > ><http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/>
> > > > > 
> > > > ><http://exocortex.com/products/species>
> > > > >TurboSquid Models
> > > > > <http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >  > > > > > > 
> > > > > >  I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us
> > > > > > how he and his team are making things better in Maya and that he’s
> > > > > > putting his XSI experience to good use
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  for Softimage users.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > > > > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jens
> > > > > > Lindgren
> > > > > >  Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:21
> > > > > >  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > > > >  Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  My thought exactly!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  Please note that the right to use the Softimage license
> > > > > &

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Jason S]

This is by no means directed at Maurice or Mark Stevens,
as it has probably been written by political correctness specialists on behalf 
of Mark,
on orders from (cold/calculated)  decision takers from way upstairs (way up in 
the clouds).


But I find the following highlighted portions of these excerpts to be highly 
dubious at best.

We are committed to providing(forcing)  our customers with(what we condider to 
be)  the*most technologically advanced*  *products*  and highest quality*  
customer service**  *possible.

After careful consideration, it has become*necessary*  to make some changes to 
our software portfolio in order to continue to do so.

We therefore regret to inform you ...

__

*We understand*  that you will now need time to re-evaluate your production 
capabilities.

__

Our goal is to give you the*flexibilityyou needto continue to use, and scale, 
Softimage*in production   (only)during the transition to either Maya or 3ds Max.

__

Although this decision is a*difficult one*, we do believe that by focusing our 
efforts we can*better serve*the needs of the media and entertainment industry 
and provide customers with*better products*, faster.

__

As of March 28, 2014, Softimage will*no longer be available for sale to new 
customers*.

Discontinuing development is one thing,  but making it *unavailable*really  is 
something else (!)

We*regret*any inconvenience that this may cause, however we believe you will 
find our new transition product offerings*very attractive*.


Sorry but.. Understanding and Regret requires the ability to actually have 
feeling.




On 03/04/14 12:01, Maurice Patel wrote:

Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of Softimage 
posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have been looking 
for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk. Unfortunately, we were 
not in a position to respond until today as we needed to finalize all the 
details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the 
software. I wanted to share some of those details with you:

-  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software

-  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and service 
packs for two more years

-  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to transition to 
Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to continue to use 
Softimage in production/

-  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or rental 
plans if they need to scale production

Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage 
customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not 
allow us to send it to those who have opted out.



Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we are 
responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to upload all 
the information yet.



As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded all the 
information including a detailed FAQ on 
www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the interim I 
have also copied and pasted it below



Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit 
http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A 
webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of what is 
new in Softimage 2015.



Maurice Patel

Autodesk


[Description: Autodesk]


Autodesk Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement


To discuss your transition options Contact a 
Reseller<https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/etrack.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&FORMID=bbdca7c18a1535b1ffbc24725fe642a3&INTID=08f974dac32ba2380b1348731c570ede&AUDID=dc482f8407033a7eeebee55a40d54b838da4a93ff9131343&DECODE=1&URL=https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/delivery/linktracking/lmark.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&LID=a1ede08e74ba134ecee55317ea02deb4>


March 4, 2014

Dear Softimage Customer,

We are committed to providing our customers with the most technologically 
advanced products and highest quality customer service possible. After careful 
consideration, it has become necessary to make some changes to our software 
portfolio in order to continue to do so.

We therefore regret to inform you that the upcoming 2015 release will be the 
last one for Autodesk(r) Softimage(r), which is expected to ship on April 14, 
2014. Autodesk will continue to offer product support until Apr 30, 2016. We 
will also provide any necessary hot-fixes and service packs to all customers, 
at no cost, until Apr 30, 2016.

We understand that you will now need time to re-evaluate your production 
capabilities. To help you, we are offering Autodesk(r) Subscription customers 
special no cost options to migrate to either Autodesk(r) Maya(r) or Autodesk(r) 
3ds Max(r) while continuing to use Softimage in production. These options will 

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Rob Wuijster]

If they're at it, have them rip out the hideous 
Renderlayers/Passes/Contribution Maps mess, and implement something that 
works like in Softimage...



\/-\/\/

On 4-3-2014 19:10, Maurice Patel wrote:

Hi Chris,
Yes, a team has been created in R&D to look at exactly this.  Many of the 
Softimage team are working on areas such as animation and modeling these products 
and the ICE workflow is influencing the design of new workflows like Bifrost.
Maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Covelli
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on 
implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?

Chris Covelli
http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
http://exocortex.com/products/species
TurboSquid 
Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau 
mailto:marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com>> 
wrote:
I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team are 
making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience to good 
use
for Softimage users.


From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jens Lindgren
Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:21
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

My thought exactly!

Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at the 
end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will be 
transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending on your 
initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage license after Feb 
1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract for a period beyond 
that date. You will be able to continue to use Softimage but will forfeit any 
future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya.

So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk 
Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk customer 
anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?

/Jens

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris 
mailto:matt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no access 
to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with older data is 
to end our subscription?


On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel 
mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr>> wrote:
...



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--
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--
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Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/>



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Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Juhani Karlsson]

If one has to decide between Bifrost or Houdini now - they must be pretty
dumb to go with Bifrost. Who knows when that will be terminated? ; )
I hope most of the 3rd party developers will start to looking into FE and
Houdini.


On 4 March 2014 20:19, Francisco Criado  wrote:

> Hi Lawrence, i used flame for almost 3 years, and have to agree with you
> that is an excelent tool, but i was refering to the market in general, with
> nuke on the market rules changed, and autodesk didn't do anything about it?
> Combustion? dead
> Toxic? no thanks
> Flame? 140.000 dollars, yes i know it comes with the hardware, but if i
> have to make a new compositing department for a movie i wont spend that
> money foe each compositor, and you can say flare, but there are no users on
> market.
> So...autodesk bad decisions.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Lawrence Nimrichter 
> wrote:
>
>> Flame is doing quite well and is considered high end compositing. The new
>> versions have garnered lots of excitement from the flame artists around
>> here.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Francisco Criado 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Its funny to see Autodesk failing over and over again, they dissapeared
>> from the high end compositing scenario having great tools,  and now this.
>> I' m adquiring products from now on with The Foundry family, they just
>> have one product for each area of post, and keep it simple.
>> F.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Chris Covelli 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on
>> implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
>>
>> Chris Covelli
>> http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
>> http://exocortex.com/products/species
>> TurboSquid 
>> Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau <
>> marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team
>> are making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience
>> to good use
>>
>> for Softimage users.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jens Lindgren
>> *Sent:* 4 mars 2014 12:21
>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>>
>>
>>
>> My thought exactly!
>>
>>
>>
>> *Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate
>> at the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You
>> will be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya
>> depending on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your
>> Softimage license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription
>> contract for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use
>> Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya. *
>>
>>
>>
>> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk
>> Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk
>> customer anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
>>
>>
>>
>> /Jens
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris  wrote:
>>
>> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no
>> access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with
>> older data is to end our subscription?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel  wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


-- 
-- 
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3D Artist/TD

Talvi Digital Oy
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00150 Helsinki
+358 443443088
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www.vimeo.com/talvi

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Francisco Criado]

Hi Lawrence, i used flame for almost 3 years, and have to agree with you
that is an excelent tool, but i was refering to the market in general, with
nuke on the market rules changed, and autodesk didn't do anything about it?
Combustion? dead
Toxic? no thanks
Flame? 140.000 dollars, yes i know it comes with the hardware, but if i
have to make a new compositing department for a movie i wont spend that
money foe each compositor, and you can say flare, but there are no users on
market.
So...autodesk bad decisions.

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Lawrence Nimrichter  wrote:

> Flame is doing quite well and is considered high end compositing. The new
> versions have garnered lots of excitement from the flame artists around
> here.
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Francisco Criado 
> wrote:
>
> Its funny to see Autodesk failing over and over again, they dissapeared
> from the high end compositing scenario having great tools,  and now this.
> I' m adquiring products from now on with The Foundry family, they just
> have one product for each area of post, and keep it simple.
> F.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Chris Covelli 
> wrote:
>
> Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on
> implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
>
> Chris Covelli
> http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
> http://exocortex.com/products/species
> TurboSquid 
> Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau <
> marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com> wrote:
>
> I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team
> are making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience
> to good use
>
> for Softimage users.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jens Lindgren
> *Sent:* 4 mars 2014 12:21
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
>
> My thought exactly!
>
>
>
> *Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at
> the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will
> be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending
> on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage
> license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract
> for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use
> Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya. *
>
>
>
> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk
> Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk
> customer anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
>
>
>
> /Jens
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris  wrote:
>
> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no
> access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with
> older data is to end our subscription?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel  wrote:
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Vladislav Vulchev]

Respect !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSy82QFOx6Q

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Maurice Patel]

Hi Chris,
Yes, a team has been created in R&D to look at exactly this.  Many of the 
Softimage team are working on areas such as animation and modeling these 
products and the ICE workflow is influencing the design of new workflows like 
Bifrost.
Maurice

Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél:  514 954-7134

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Covelli
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on 
implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?

Chris Covelli
http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
http://exocortex.com/products/species
TurboSquid 
Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau 
mailto:marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com>> 
wrote:
I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team are 
making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience to good 
use
for Softimage users.


From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Jens Lindgren
Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:21
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

My thought exactly!

Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at the 
end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will be 
transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending on your 
initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage license after Feb 
1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract for a period beyond 
that date. You will be able to continue to use Softimage but will forfeit any 
future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya.

So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk 
Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk customer 
anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?

/Jens

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris 
mailto:matt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no access 
to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with older data is 
to end our subscription?


On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel 
mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr>> wrote:
...



--
www.matinai.com<http://www.matinai.com>



--
Jens Lindgren
--
Lead Technical Director
Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/>

<>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Daniel H]

Reluctantly we knew from the beginning Autodesk was just out to rape and
pillage Softimage. Now it's all over and we can use SI for another year or
two and then move on to Houdini. Right now I only need three things: Some
witty verbal whips from Raffaele Fragapane, a glorious speech from
Softimage 5-Star General Stephen Blair, and a nice cross-over discount from
SideFX. :)

Daniel
VFXM

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Lawrence Nimrichter]

Flame is doing quite well and is considered high end compositing. The new 
versions have garnered lots of excitement from the flame artists around here. 


On Mar 4, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Francisco Criado  wrote:

> Its funny to see Autodesk failing over and over again, they dissapeared from 
> the high end compositing scenario having great tools,  and now this.
> I' m adquiring products from now on with The Foundry family, they just have 
> one product for each area of post, and keep it simple.
> F.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Chris Covelli  wrote:
> Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on 
> implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
> 
> Chris Covelli
> http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
> http://exocortex.com/products/species
> TurboSquid Models
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau 
>  wrote:
> I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team are 
> making things better in Maya and that he’s putting his XSI experience to good 
> use
> 
> for Softimage users.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jens Lindgren
> Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:21
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> 
>  
> 
> My thought exactly!
> 
>  
> 
> Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at the 
> end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will be 
> transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending on 
> your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage license 
> after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract for a 
> period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use Softimage but 
> will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya.
> 
>  
> 
> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk 
> Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk customer 
> anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
> 
>  
> 
> /Jens
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris  wrote:
> 
> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no 
> access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with older 
> data is to end our subscription?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel  wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
> www.matinai.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Jens Lindgren
> 
> 
> 

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Francisco Criado]

Its funny to see Autodesk failing over and over again, they dissapeared
from the high end compositing scenario having great tools,  and now this.
I' m adquiring products from now on with The Foundry family, they just have
one product for each area of post, and keep it simple.
F.


On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Chris Covelli  wrote:

> Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on
> implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
>
> Chris Covelli
> http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
> http://exocortex.com/products/species
> TurboSquid 
> Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau <
> marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com> wrote:
>
> I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team
> are making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience
> to good use
>
> for Softimage users.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jens Lindgren
> *Sent:* 4 mars 2014 12:21
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
>
> My thought exactly!
>
>
>
> *Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at
> the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will
> be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending
> on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage
> license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract
> for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use
> Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya. *
>
>
>
> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk
> Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk
> customer anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
>
>
>
> /Jens
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris  wrote:
>
> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no
> access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with
> older data is to end our subscription?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel  wrote:
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> www.matinai.com
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jens Lindgren
>
> 
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Arvid Björn]

Damn it. There's some pretty good updates here, first time that ever made
me sad =/

Alembic support, progressive rendering, tab-style interface in the node
editors, auto complete, exposure controls to name a few... maybe not MAJOR
updates but definitely good ones.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau <
marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com> wrote:

> It's here :
>
>
> http://area.autodesk.com/userdata/products/What's_New_in_Autodesk_Softimage_2015_latest.pdf
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Luca
> *Sent:* 4 mars 2014 12:43
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
>
> Well, at this point, they could tell us which features Soft 2015 have,
> just to flat down the last doubts...
>
>
>
> 2014-03-04 18:35 GMT+01:00 Jordi Bares :
>
> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>
> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
> the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
> been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
> are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>
> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
> to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
> back if at all possible.
>
> Good luck
>
> Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel  wrote:
>
> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
> Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
> been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
> Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
> needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
> will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
> details with you:
> >
> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> >
> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
> service packs for two more years
> >
> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to transition
> to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to continue to use
> Softimage in production/
> >
> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
> rental plans if they need to scale production
> >
> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
> allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
> are responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to
> upload all the information yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded
> all the information including a detailed FAQ on www.autodesk.com/softimage
> <http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the interim I have also copied
> and pasted it below
> >
> >
> >
> > Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit
> http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A
> webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of
> what is new in Softimage 2015.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maurice Patel
> >
> > Autodesk
> >
> >
> > [Description: Autodesk]
> >
> >
> > Autodesk Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> >
> >
> > To discuss your transition options Contact a Reseller<
> https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/etrack.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&FORMID=bbdca7c18a1535b1ffbc24725fe642a3&INTID=08f974dac32ba2380b1348731c570ede&AUDID=dc482f8407033a7eeebee55a40d54b838da4a93ff9131343&DECODE=1&URL=https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/delivery/linktracking/lmark.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&LID=a1ede08e74ba134ecee55317ea02deb4
> >
> >
> >
> > March 4, 2014
> >
> > Dear Softimage Customer,
> >
> > We are committed to providing our customers with the most
> technologically advanced products and highest quality customer service
> possible. After careful consideration, it has become necessary to make some
> changes to our software portfolio in order to continue to do so.
> &g

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Chris Covelli]

Sorry if this question was answered already, but does Autodesk plan on
implementing any of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?

Chris Covelli
http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/
http://exocortex.com/products/species
TurboSquid 
Models<http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau <
marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com> wrote:

> I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team
> are making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience
> to good use
>
> for Softimage users.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jens Lindgren
> *Sent:* 4 mars 2014 12:21
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
>
>
>
> My thought exactly!
>
>
>
> *Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at
> the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will
> be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending
> on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage
> license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract
> for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use
> Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya. *
>
>
>
> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk
> Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk
> customer anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
>
>
>
> /Jens
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris  wrote:
>
> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no
> access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with
> older data is to end our subscription?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel  wrote:
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> www.matinai.com
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jens Lindgren
>
> --
>
> Lead Technical Director
>
> Magoo 3D Studios <http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/>
>

RE: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Marc-Andre Carbonneau]

I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us how he and his team are 
making things better in Maya and that he's putting his XSI experience to good 
use
for Softimage users.


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jens Lindgren
Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:21
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

My thought exactly!

Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at the 
end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will be 
transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending on your 
initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage license after Feb 
1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract for a period beyond 
that date. You will be able to continue to use Softimage but will forfeit any 
future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya.

So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk 
Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk customer 
anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?

/Jens

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris 
mailto:matt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no access 
to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with older data is 
to end our subscription?


On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel 
mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr>> wrote:
...



--
www.matinai.com<http://www.matinai.com>



--
Jens Lindgren
--
Lead Technical Director
Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Stefan Kubicek]

Hi Maurice,

it would be decent to introduce an alternative product that has comparable 
production value before you discontinue the old one. You have bought yourself 
some time until 2016 to deliver, but given AD$Ks past years track record my 
guts feeling is you guys won't make it (again). But hey, you can always buy out 
others, right?

This whole show is like watching somebody shoot himself in the foot in super 
slow motion and being unable to help the poor guy. I don't know whether I want 
to break out in crazy laughter or just go home and cry. Fortunately, these 
options are not mutually exclusive, so I will probably end up doing both in a 
yet to be determined order.







Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of Softimage 
posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have been looking 
for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk. Unfortunately, we were 
not in a position to respond until today as we needed to finalize all the 
details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the 
software. I wanted to share some of those details with you:

-  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software

-  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and service 
packs for two more years

-  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to transition to 
Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to continue to use 
Softimage in production/

-  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or rental 
plans if they need to scale production

Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage 
customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not 
allow us to send it to those who have opted out.



Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we are 
responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to upload all 
the information yet.



As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded all the 
information including a detailed FAQ on 
www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the interim I 
have also copied and pasted it below



Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit 
http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A 
webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of what is 
new in Softimage 2015.



Maurice Patel

Autodesk


[Description: Autodesk]


Autodesk Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement


To discuss your transition options Contact a 
Reseller<https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/etrack.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&FORMID=bbdca7c18a1535b1ffbc24725fe642a3&INTID=08f974dac32ba2380b1348731c570ede&AUDID=dc482f8407033a7eeebee55a40d54b838da4a93ff9131343&DECODE=1&URL=https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/delivery/linktracking/lmark.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&LID=a1ede08e74ba134ecee55317ea02deb4>


March 4, 2014

Dear Softimage Customer,

We are committed to providing our customers with the most technologically 
advanced products and highest quality customer service possible. After careful 
consideration, it has become necessary to make some changes to our software 
portfolio in order to continue to do so.

We therefore regret to inform you that the upcoming 2015 release will be the 
last one for Autodesk(r) Softimage(r), which is expected to ship on April 14, 
2014. Autodesk will continue to offer product support until Apr 30, 2016. We 
will also provide any necessary hot-fixes and service packs to all customers, 
at no cost, until Apr 30, 2016.

We understand that you will now need time to re-evaluate your production 
capabilities. To help you, we are offering Autodesk(r) Subscription customers 
special no cost options to migrate to either Autodesk(r) Maya(r) or Autodesk(r) 
3ds Max(r) while continuing to use Softimage in production. These options will 
be available until Feb 1, 2016. Upgrade paths are also available for customers 
who are not on Subscription.

As of March 28, 2014, Softimage will no longer be available for sale to new 
customers. However, we will provide existing customers with the option to 
purchase either additional software licenses or new rental plans until Feb 1, 
2016. Our goal is to give you the flexibility you need to continue to use, and 
scale, Softimage in production during the transition to either Maya or 3ds Max.

The Autodesk Entertainment Creation Suite (ECS) Premium will no longer be 
available for sale as of March 28, 2014. ECS Premium customers on Subscription 
will receive Autodesk ECS Ultimate, at no additional cost. We will also be 
reducing the price of ECS Ultimate software and Subscription. Softimage 2015 
will remain part of ECS Ultimate for a transition period of two-years, after 
which it will be removed.

Although this decision is a difficult one, we do believe

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Luca!!!!]

Well, at this point, they could tell us which features Soft 2015 have, just
to flat down the last doubts...


2014-03-04 18:35 GMT+01:00 Jordi Bares :

> This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken.
>
> Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over
> the last few years where the work done by this close knit community has
> been recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you
> are " committed to providing our customers with the most technologically
> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible"
>
> My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is
> to loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it
> back if at all possible.
>
> Good luck
>
> Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel  wrote:
>
> > Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of
> Softimage posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have
> been looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk.
> Unfortunately, we were not in a position to respond until today as we
> needed to finalize all the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015
> will be the last release of the software. I wanted to share some of those
> details with you:
> >
> > -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> >
> > -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and
> service packs for two more years
> >
> > -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to transition
> to Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to continue to use
> Softimage in production/
> >
> > -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or
> rental plans if they need to scale production
> >
> > Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage
> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not
> allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we
> are responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to
> upload all the information yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded
> all the information including a detailed FAQ on www.autodesk.com/softimage
> <http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the interim I have also copied
> and pasted it below
> >
> >
> >
> > Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit
> http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A
> webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of
> what is new in Softimage 2015.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maurice Patel
> >
> > Autodesk
> >
> >
> > [Description: Autodesk]
> >
> >
> > Autodesk Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> >
> >
> > To discuss your transition options Contact a Reseller<
> https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/etrack.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&FORMID=bbdca7c18a1535b1ffbc24725fe642a3&INTID=08f974dac32ba2380b1348731c570ede&AUDID=dc482f8407033a7eeebee55a40d54b838da4a93ff9131343&DECODE=1&URL=https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/delivery/linktracking/lmark.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&LID=a1ede08e74ba134ecee55317ea02deb4
> >
> >
> >
> > March 4, 2014
> >
> > Dear Softimage Customer,
> >
> > We are committed to providing our customers with the most
> technologically advanced products and highest quality customer service
> possible. After careful consideration, it has become necessary to make some
> changes to our software portfolio in order to continue to do so.
> >
> > We therefore regret to inform you that the upcoming 2015 release will be
> the last one for Autodesk(r) Softimage(r), which is expected to ship on
> April 14, 2014. Autodesk will continue to offer product support until Apr
> 30, 2016. We will also provide any necessary hot-fixes and service packs to
> all customers, at no cost, until Apr 30, 2016.
> >
> > We understand that you will now need time to re-evaluate your production
> capabilities. To help you, we are offering Autodesk(r) Subscription
> customers special no cost options to migrate to either Autodesk(r) Maya(r)
> or Autodesk(r) 3ds Max(r) while continuing to use Softimage in production.
> These options will be available until Feb 1, 2016. Upgrade paths are also
> available for customers who are not on Subscription.
> >
> > As

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Jordi Bares]

This is probably the worst decisions Autodesk has taken. 

Looking back a the Gold Lion at Cannes, VES awards, the BTAA awards over the 
last few years where the work done by this close knit community has been 
recognised I am shocked you really think you by killing Softimage you are " 
committed to providing our customers with the most technologically advanced 
products and highest quality customer service possible"

My feeling is that you as a company have not gauged correctly how easy is to 
loose the trust of an entire community and how hard is going to get it back if 
at all possible.

Good luck

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com


On 4 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Maurice Patel  wrote:

> Over the past week there have been many rumors about the future of Softimage 
> posted on various forums and social media sites. Many of you have been 
> looking for an official confirmation or denial from Autodesk. Unfortunately, 
> we were not in a position to respond until today as we needed to finalize all 
> the details of our plans. But yes Softimage 2015 will be the last release of 
> the software. I wanted to share some of those details with you:
> 
> -  Softimage 2015 will be the last release of the software
> 
> -  We will continue to support the software and develop hot fixes and service 
> packs for two more years
> 
> -  If they wish to, customers on Subscription will be able to transition to 
> Maya or 3ds Max at no cost while retaining the right to continue to use 
> Softimage in production/
> 
> -  Existing customers will be able to purchase additional seats and/or rental 
> plans if they need to scale production
> 
> Below is a copy of the letter that was sent electronically to Softimage 
> customers today. I have copied it here as our email distribution lists not 
> allow us to send it to those who have opted out.
> 
> 
> 
> Because several of our partners have started posting the news early, we are 
> responding now but please note our web sites have not had time to upload all 
> the information yet.
> 
> 
> 
> As early as possible but by no later than 3pm EST, we will have loaded all 
> the information including a detailed FAQ on 
> www.autodesk.com/softimage<http://www.autodesk.com/softimage>. In the interim 
> I have also copied and pasted it below
> 
> 
> 
> Within the next 15 minutes you can also visit 
> http://area.autodesk.com/softimagetransition  to register for a live Q&A 
> webinar on Marc 18th at 12pm EST. as well as see the full documentation of 
> what is new in Softimage 2015.
> 
> 
> 
> Maurice Patel
> 
> Autodesk
> 
> 
> [Description: Autodesk]
> 
> 
> Autodesk Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> 
> 
> To discuss your transition options Contact a 
> Reseller<https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/etrack.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&FORMID=bbdca7c18a1535b1ffbc24725fe642a3&INTID=08f974dac32ba2380b1348731c570ede&AUDID=dc482f8407033a7eeebee55a40d54b838da4a93ff9131343&DECODE=1&URL=https://leads.autodesk.com/aprimoportal/delivery/linktracking/lmark.aspx?DSN=7f98cd601ea567f8649a5d74b1958a30&LID=a1ede08e74ba134ecee55317ea02deb4>
> 
> 
> March 4, 2014
> 
> Dear Softimage Customer,
> 
> We are committed to providing our customers with the most technologically 
> advanced products and highest quality customer service possible. After 
> careful consideration, it has become necessary to make some changes to our 
> software portfolio in order to continue to do so.
> 
> We therefore regret to inform you that the upcoming 2015 release will be the 
> last one for Autodesk(r) Softimage(r), which is expected to ship on April 14, 
> 2014. Autodesk will continue to offer product support until Apr 30, 2016. We 
> will also provide any necessary hot-fixes and service packs to all customers, 
> at no cost, until Apr 30, 2016.
> 
> We understand that you will now need time to re-evaluate your production 
> capabilities. To help you, we are offering Autodesk(r) Subscription customers 
> special no cost options to migrate to either Autodesk(r) Maya(r) or 
> Autodesk(r) 3ds Max(r) while continuing to use Softimage in production. These 
> options will be available until Feb 1, 2016. Upgrade paths are also available 
> for customers who are not on Subscription.
> 
> As of March 28, 2014, Softimage will no longer be available for sale to new 
> customers. However, we will provide existing customers with the option to 
> purchase either additional software licenses or new rental plans until Feb 1, 
> 2016. Our goal is to give you the flexibility you need to continue to use, 
> and scale, Softimage in production during the transition to either Maya or 
> 3ds Max.
> 
> The Autodesk Ent

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Luca!!!!]

Autodesk, did you buy Softimage with the intention to make big things with
it then didn't work??? Bullshit.
It was already working fast and well, at that time.
The reality is it did cost you "only" 35M to kill it. It was already in
your plan. Just admit it...

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Mário Domingos]

Sad day! Bad decision.—
Sent from Mailbox for iPhone

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Jens Lindgren 
wrote:

> My thought exactly!
> *Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate at
> the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You will
> be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya depending
> on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your Softimage
> license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription contract
> for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use
> Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya. *
> So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still be on some Autodesk
> Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy to not be an Autodesk
> customer anymore. What the hell are they thinking?!?
> /Jens
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris  wrote:
>> So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016 we will have no
>> access to past projects? The only way that we can continue to work with
>> older data is to end our subscription?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel  wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.matinai.com
>>
> -- 
> Jens Lindgren
> --
> Lead Technical Director
> Magoo 3D Studios 

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Francisco Criado]

autodesk decision maker guy, can you explain us how can softimage hold back
the 3d market? have you used it and compared it to your other products?
Its aa bullshit, sorry to be rude but, really? find another excuse, or
say the truth "we want to control the market as we want, we have the money,
thats why we buy and destroy, why shouldn't we, right? users will migrate
to any other of my products.
Well some of us won't.
bye autodesk.


On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, olivier jeannel  wrote:

> ...
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Patrick Neese]

I just bought this software in Aug... -_-

Very disappointed and upset. I'm a hobbyist and it has taken me a long
time to get funds to buy the software and then talk myself into buying
it...

What happens in three years when I try to install it on my computer
after a crash/rebuild...will I be able to activate the software
anymore? Will you do like Adobe and create a version that doesn't
require Activation?

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Steven Caron  wrote:
> so softimage is holding autodesk back? and we should understand because its
> for the greater good?
>
> *written with my thumbs
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Artur Woźniak]

this announcement makes me feel like Leo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9upvWNN3P8  0,50


2014-03-04 18:16 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Kowalski :

> my thoughts exactly..
>
>
> Am 04.03.2014 um 18:12 schrieb Steven Caron :
>
> > so softimage is holding autodesk back? and we should understand because
> its for the greater good?
> >
> > *written with my thumbs
> >
>
>
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Byron Nash]

Sad news indeed. It's been a good 15+ year roller coaster ride. Thanks for
passing on the official word Maurice.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, olivier jeannel wrote:

> ...
>

Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement

[Paul Griswold]

I sincerely hope this is the beginning of a very fast downward spiral for
ADSK as a company.

Nothing would thrill me more than to see ADSK go Chapter 11 and be forced
to start selling off asset after asset.

Thanks for nothing Carl Basshole!

-Paul

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