Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5099, network reset, please upgrade
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:20:40 +0100, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the seednodes, so upgrading should be relatively uneventful. You may be able to use the update utility on Windows, or update.sh on Linux. If this does not work, for example if your node connects to zero nodes after startup, download seednodes.ref manually from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/ , and save it over your existing seednodes.ref . It's hard to know whether it updated the seednodes or not. I have contact with 9/4 nodes immideately after upgrading, some running 5099 but most are on 5089 (!) .. So, I entered config and tried updating the default seednodes from within there: Oct 26, 2004 10:08:01 AM (freenet.node.SeednodesUpdater, YThread-43, ERROR): Seednodes read failed from seednodes.ref java.io.FileNotFoundException: seednodes.ref (The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method) at java.io.FileInputStream.init(Unknown Source) at freenet.node.Main.readSeedStrings(Main.java:1253) at freenet.node.Main.reseed(Main.java:1239) at freenet.node.SeednodesUpdater.checkpoint(SeednodesUpdater.java:50) at freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:54) at freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:47) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:335) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:288) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:207) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:99) at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:325) at freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFa ctory.java:285) ... so, no go. It seems Freenet locked access to the file itself. ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5095
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 20:35:39 +0100, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet stable build 5095 is now available. Please upgrade, test, and report bugs. My log is filled with Too high a probability and Freenet doesn't respond very well :/ Sep 5, 2004 10:22:38 AM (freenet.node.rt.EdgeKludgingBinaryRunningAverage, YThread-184, ERROR): Too high probability: 1.005 while kludging [EMAIL PROTECTED] (-5 0s, 1005 1s, 1000 total), init=0.5, index=202 java.lang.Exception: debug at freenet.node.rt.EdgeKludgingBinaryRunningAverage.kludgeValue(EdgeKludgingBinaryRunningAverage.java:82) at freenet.node.rt.EdgeKludgingBinaryRunningAverage.currentValue(EdgeKludgingBinaryRunningAverage.java:101) at freenet.node.rt.StandardNodeEstimator.pEarlyTimeout(StandardNodeEstimator.java:2049) at freenet.node.rt.StandardNodeStats.register(StandardNodeStats.java:148) at freenet.node.rt.StandardNodeStats.register(StandardNodeStats.java:187) at freenet.node.rt.NGRoutingTable.updateNewNodeStats(NGRoutingTable.java:605) at freenet.node.rt.NGRoutingTable.route(NGRoutingTable.java:656) at freenet.node.rt.FilterRoutingTable.route(FilterRoutingTable.java:73) at freenet.node.states.request.Pending.receivedRequestInitiator(Pending.java:420) at freenet.node.states.request.DataPending.receivedMessage(DataPending.java:124) at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor2.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) at freenet.node.State.received(State.java:143) at freenet.node.states.FNP.NewDataRequest.received(NewDataRequest.java:52) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:335) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:288) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:207) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:99) at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:325) at freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:285) regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 5091 not doing well?
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:57:14 +0100, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other reports say it is working okay... Do you get RNFs? On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 02:29:43PM +0200, Troed S?ngberg wrote: Symptoms: Very little content browseable outside what I suspect is in my local datastore, but some content is definitely coming in, albeit slowly. Frost: Nothing. No new posts. This one is what puzzles me the most. Solved it. For some reason my Frost went and died completely - reinstalling got it up and running again. That together with a reseed at 5090 or so meant that Freenet didn't work as well as it did with my old nodelist and thus I thought it was a problem with 5091. So, no worries :) regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] 5091 not doing well?
Hi, I'm usually the last person to complain, but I'm a bit puzzled as to how my 5091 node is feeling atm. Symptoms: Very little content browseable outside what I suspect is in my local datastore, but some content is definitely coming in, albeit slowly. Frost: Nothing. No new posts. This one is what puzzles me the most. Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 159 (85/74/200) Transfers active (Transmitting/Receiving) 86 (38/48) Data waiting to be transferred 36 Bytes Total amount of data transferred4,327 MiB Uptime: 2 days, 3 hours, 41 minutes Current routingTime: 51ms. Pooled threads running jobs: 86 (43%) Pooled threads which are idle: 48 Current estimated load for rate limiting: 124.5%. Load due to thread limit = 42.5% Load due to routingTime = 5.1% = 51ms / 1000ms = overloadLow (100%) Load due to messageSendTimeRequest = 15.9% = 79ms / 500ms = overloadLow (100%) Load due to output bandwidth limiting = 124.5% because outputBytes(979339) limit (786432.012 ) = outLimitCutoff (0.8) * outputBandwidthLimit (16384) * 60 Load due to expected inbound transfers: 14.3% because: 3747.815059482813 req/hr * 0.0224529164599 (pTransfer) * 440356.0 bytes = 37055683 bytes/hr expected from current requests, but maxInputBytes/minute = 3932160 (output limit assumed smaller than input capacity) * 60 * 1.1 = 259522560 bytes/hr target Load due to expected outbound transfers: 40% because: 1339.59755877746 req/hr * 0.028(972 0s, 28 1s, 1000 total) (pTransfer) * 440356.0 bytes = 16517195 bytes/hr expected from current requests, but maxOutputBytes/minute = 688128 * 60 = 41287680 bytes/hr target Current estimated load for QueryRejecting: 43%. Estimated external pSearchFailed (based only on QueryRejections due to load): 0.0 Current estimated requests per hour: 1649.974073708626 Current global quota (requests per hour): 1577.4477016206645 Current global quota limit from bandwidth (requests per hour): 4465.339383780985 Highest seen bytes downloaded in one minute: 1819342 Current outgoing request rate 3693.494192374193 Current probability of a request succeeding by routing 7.9% Current probability of an inbound request causing a transfer outwards 3% Current target (best case single node) probability of a request succeeding 5.7% ... from the above I would say my node is doing pretty ok (although not as good as 5084 or thereabouts) - so is this strictly a problem of me accessing the node locally? regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT)
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:20:24 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you run a freenet node you know it's doing something illegal No. I've already explained this to you. Short memory? Do you get paid to post FUD? ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT)
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 14:24:35 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And as I explained one does not need 100% certain knowledge of a crime to fit the legal requirement of knowing. It only needs to be proven that you had a good reason to suspect that it is so. The very fact that we're having this conversation or the fact that it's in the FAQ on the site is more then enough to prove you had knowledge that a crime is taking place. You're seemingly incapable of logic reasoning, but I'll try this once again: *) See world. *) See world outside USA. *) See world outside USA lots lots bigger. *) See people don't care about USA. Comprende? You're free to mail me privately and ask for additional legal help. ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:35:00 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do have a choice, nothing is forcing them to run freenet. It doesn't matter that they can't see exactly what their node is doing, but only the fact that they know what their node is probably doing. If someone gives you a package in Mexico and ask you to carry it across the boarder. You do so and customs finds it full of drugs. It doesn't matter that you didn't see what was in there or even if it was locked and you couldn't see what was in there. All that matters is that a reasonable person would know what's in there. FUD - since Freenet has other legitimate uses. We don't prosecute ISPs even though we _know_ with 100% certainty that some of the groups contain childporn. We don't prosecute car manufacturers even though we _know_ with 100% certainty that some cars will be used to transport drugs over national borders. We don't prosecute postal offices even though we know with 100% certainty that some packages contain childporn and some contain drugs. No one running a Freenet node _knows_ with 100% certainty that he/she is trafficking anything illegal. On the other hand, I don't live in the Fascist states of America. (See link for explanation) http://troed.se/index.php?subaction=showcommentsid=1091214452 regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:02:52 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's because ISPs/Mail are protected by common carrier laws, you are not. They pass laws that specifically say that if a company is incorporated as a common carrier, then the items (or data) they transport aren't their responsibility. *knocks on head* See world. See world outside USA. See world outside USA lots lots bigger. See people don't care about USA. regards, Troed (this is the last I'll write here about this. You'll find me at various places over the net when you want to be lectured) -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: RNFs
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:21:19 +0200, Someone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To say it clear, a fixed IP (even when it is only fixed for a week) is something special you have to pay for in germany, and no ISP will give you something for free if he can actually charge a good ammount of extra money for it. ... just to balance things out then: In Sweden it's uncommon to get a new IP that often, you can usually hold on to it for quite some time. The second biggest DSL-operator (Bostream) also offers static IPs for several of their services - no extra charge (only if you want additional ones). I'm myself on 8/1 ADSL with a static IP, and I just got my VDSL modem in the mail so in 1-2 weeks I should be up on ~13-20Mbit both ways ... (depends on the distance to the station). Cost? ยค43/month. No traffic limits. Home servers allowed. regards, Mr RubItIn ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] How to speed up Java
Saw this on /. - thought it might interest someone. Especially the part about using the server JVM instead of client JVM when speed is an issue (i.e, if you have plenty of ram but you feel Freenet use too much CPU) http://www3.sys-con.com/java/rotate2.cfm ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] British Telecom starting mass censorship ofWeb sites
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 17:47:58 -0700 (PDT), MICHAEL BAKEMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuck the brits, free speach is what you make of it. Europe doesn't know what free speach is. In my opinion, this idea will be forced upon the europeans by time. I seriously hope you're kidding. There's more free speach in Europe than in the US these days. ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Mascotte! :-)
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 17:48:20 +0200, Newsbyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell me what you think about it: http://www.freenethelp.org/bux He looks stoned. A bit like Freenet itself - nice :) ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Traffic usage?
On Fri, 28 May 2004 18:39:14 -0400, Thomas Guyot-Sionnest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's either not that speed, or not DSL! ADSL is 1Mbit up, 8Mbit down; SDSL is a little faster for upload, but slower for download (up=down)... Even a dedicated T1 is not that fast, around 50Mbps! Wrong list for this discussion, I just want to point out that Japan Europe USA when it comes to tech. I'm on 8/1 ADSL - which in a few weeks time is going to be 13/13 or maybe 26/26 VDSL. I have no doubts that there is VDSL available in Japan that does at least 50Mbit/s. I _do_ however agree that the quoted 100/100 most probably is fiber/ethernet. We have that here too, it's quite common in flats you own yourself in the big cities. I'm in Sweden. If you want cool tech - move out of the US. (Flames won't be answered, this IS the wrong forum) ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Retiring from the project
On Tue, 25 May 2004 10:51:20 -0400, Jay Oliveri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Fred takes too much CPU and RAM because it's written in Java. I hate this depate. It's true that object orienting uses up (a few) more bytes than non-OO programming, but that's trivial compared to the structuring you (can) get with OO vs non-OO. JIT Java (which we're all running) is also very speedy, there's only a few rare instances where it's worth the trouble to replace code with something natively instead. On the other hand, it's quite easy to lose control with object creation, and to forget how to help the GC do the work most efficiently. That has nothing to do with Java in itself though. /me - professional Software Engineer, well trained in C, C++ and Java (although mostly J2ME) -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] NAT Freenet
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:41:56 -0700, Galen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of P2P file transfer protocols. Bittorrent, gnutella, fasttrack, etc. Uploading doesn't always work really great, but downloading is quite decent. Bittorrent seems to have zero problems saturating upstream bandwidth on many torrents that are 100% behind NAT. I classified (mentally) freenet as a P2P, but it's more like a server-to-server for best performance. Bittorrent works _really_ lousy for downloading if you don't open up a bunch of ports in the firewall/NAT. ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] CS Project
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:15:57 +1100, Craig Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Freenet, :) potentially use Freenet to transmit files. We are keen to adapt or create a lightweight client, preferably an applet, that can talk to Freenet seed nodes and post files. We are familiar with the What you are asking is for us noderunners to open upp our Freenet via an API (FCP) for external use. People might be reluctant to do that, since ISPs might not understand that hosting Freenet-content for external users is done in the name of Freedom - they might just consider your open port a source for ... *that dreaded word about illegal pictures of you-know-what* and shut down your Internet access. Thus, I'm not sure how many willing participans you'd find. I guess a second layer at the node could be installed that tried to filter out only your content for external users, but, than I'm starting to wonder what the point of using Freenet for this would be at all. regards, Troed - not an official Freenet spokesperson in any way - but considered quite knowledgeable about privacy. -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] CS Project
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:08:55 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong. It's quite possible to interface to freenet on the FNP level. Have a look at freenet/client/FNPClient.java . ... in effect, creating an applet-Fred? But without a datastore and history, how would those integrate with the rest of the network - and function? ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:37:34 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber. Why thank you for that informative, empirically backed and helpful bug report. My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last stable builds have been really good already .. ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:44:08 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly... The huge memory leak is fixed, and transfer speeds has gone up :) Regarding RNFs .. well, maybe - I haven't done extensive browsing since the last version. I'll do that this evening and report the results, but I have had no problems at all inserting 30-40Mb with ok speeds recently with FUQID, as an example. regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] freenet commitment settings
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:22:31 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
{Fall2003.zip 1/ 13} Inserting 262144 bytes (try 1), HTL=25
[2004-03-08 22:15:17] {Fall2003.zip 1/ 13} Fatal error in
insert
thread: EFCPError: connect failed: 10061
This is strange. Why is FUQID trying to connect to the node on port
10061? It should try to connect on the FCP port, NOT THE FNP PORT. Check
your config file for clientPort=some number, usually 8481.
I read that as socket error 10061 which is a fairly common error code
from sockets ;)
http://www.qksoft.com/qk-smtp-server/socket-error.html
It does mean FCP isn't listening though.
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Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5073
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:15:27 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: be distributed more widely. Specifically, if the requestor cancels a transfer, we should still transfer the data. Of course this means that nodes can DoS the network by requesting data and then cancelling the transfer; we will instigate some sort of blacklisting to try to discourage this, but it is not an immediate priority. Elaborate. Does this mean that a person who's downloading via FUQID and aborts the transfers (to be able to close FUQID down) might get blacklisted? How about trying to load lots of Freesites but not getting anything (fast, at least) and then closing everything down? regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Interesting observations regarding performance
Hi all, I think some will find this interesting. I've run Freenet on a Duron 900 with 512Mb ram, Windows 2000, for quite some time. The javaw process has consumed all available CPU, and the computer has been quite sluggish due to Freenet. I've also seen very low transfer speeds in FUQID (easiest to measure with, I think) - around 1-2kb/s when content is found. A few days ago I got a new system - a P4 3.2GHz, 1024Mb ram, still Windows 2000. Freenet now consumes around 0-1% CPU-time, it has no negative effect whatsoever on the performance of the rest of the system, and transfer speeds are up to 11kb/s. The Freenet node and contents are the same, I moved system behind my NAT so the Freenet network knows nothing of my change - it's all internal. I find the above very interesting .. comments from others? regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Interesting observations regarding performance
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:42:48 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memory usage on both? Roughly the same at ~150Mb (javaw process) Knock down the xferrate a bit from 11kb/s, it dropped a while after I sent that mess (I have no good explanation) but it's still a bit higher than on the previous machine. What surprised me was how transparent Freenet suddenly became, the difference is huge - something I cannot really justify looking at how much memory the old machine had and the CPU clock difference being only 3.5x. regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5066 - stable branch network reset, merged rate limiting
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 02:31:14 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet stable build 5066 is now available. The snapshots have been This is what 5066 did to my node vs 5065 (uptime 1 hour) :) Couldn't connect to the network. Are you sure you have configured Freenet correctly? Also make sure that you are connected to the internet. Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 118 (118/0/512) Connections blocked (Transmitting/Receiving)0 (0/0) Transfers active (Transmitting/Receiving) 0 (0/0) Data waiting to be transfered None Total amount of data transferred9 MiB No one in my routing table is usig 5066 .. are they incompatible versions? (If I'm the only one experiencing this problem I'll start checking things here, but all I did was to update Freenet) regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Stable build 5066 - stable branch network reset, merged rate limiting
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 12:53:38 +0100, Someone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one in my routing table is usig 5066 .. are they incompatible versions? Yes, you have to reseed your node. Please read toads message again ;-). Ah :) I always skip down to the details on what has been changed. Never again! *reseeding* ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Problems with linux and windows xp
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:01:36 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any incoming connections? Go to the web interface, click on Advanced mode if necessary, and click on Open Connections. If there are no incoming connections after 2 days, something relatively obvious is wrong. Second, the store folder is only 1,5MB (started from 50-100k, i think), while the assigned space is 1,4Gb! I've tried to update it, to download new seednodes, but nothing worked. That supports the above theory. Toad, Since re-introducing NGR into stable at least my node has grinded almost to a halt with similar symptoms. A very small amount of connections, almost none transferring data, very little data going through at all - and I often get network is busy or data not found. Add running out of memory often to that, and I have a very unhappy node. Are others experiencing the same? There are seemingly almost no messages posted to Frost either, which would support that you are .. regards, Troed ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Problems with linux and windows xp
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:02:41 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any incoming connections? Please can we eliminate the obvious causes first especially as others say it's not that bad? I know there's a problem with RNFs, and all I can say is we are working on it on unstable with the new rate limiting code. 304 :) ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5061
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:44:31 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: number of RNFs and increases the chance of finding data, but it may also increase the overall network load.. we may have taken it too far in the other direction in 5060. The only local cost is that it may take longer for requests to fail. Freenet is _very_ slow here with 5061 compared to 5060. I get loads of Got a really late Datareply and I also have to restart the node often due to OutOfMemory exceptions. Can't comment on reachability vs 5060 - haven't done a thorough investigation. regards, ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] New node not working...500 server error from 127.0.0.1:8888.
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:36:38 -0500, Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lastly, is this port being exposed to the Internet going to pose a security risk, or is the fproxy service reasonably robust against the usual things, e.g. buffer overflow exploits. The only thing I can That's something you get for free with Java - no buffer overflow attacks possible. I wish more people understood the importance of that instead of yelling the usual Java is slow and bloated. /me - professional Software Engineer. Extensive C++ experience, but appreciative of the features in Java. -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] Request for including your software in our database
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:56:22 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may redistribute, repackage, and modify freenet as much as you like under the terms of the GNU General Public License; I've thought about this since yesterday's mail debate regarding signatures: Freenet will fail its purpose if there isn't a secure way of retrieving official Freenet versions. Allowing anyone to host Freenet clients for download only makes it more likely that at some time someone will host a Freenet client that actively compromises anonymity - for the user of that client, and maybe, networked together to perform traffic analysis and compromise others not running that client. This is a problem. If the Freenet CVS isn't secured enough to only allow core developers to submit, that need to be fixed. If it is - there's no problem. No one asks for releases personally certified by Toad or Ian - but a way to _know_ that the Freenet client comes from the Freenet project and not Joe Doe. I must confess that I would assume no Freenet client is released without someone manually checking the submitted code against privacy leaks, new developers shouldn't be able to submit code otherwise. I played with the idea of mailing this list, with a spoofed from (Toad, client update) and a link using a few well known Internet Explorer tricks that hides the true URL, and see how many people I could get to download a fake client. I didn't, though, since I guess more than a few people here might be all too upset by such a little scam. The easiest solution is to give out Freenet-links to the new versions, right? I'd still like to see a full blown digital signature solution, but in the mean time it's good enough if people already running Freenet know they can update their client within Freenet, from a well-known key. ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] Stable Build 5054: Multiplexing merged!
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:17:04 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main change in this build is that multiplexing has been merged after weeks of development and testing. The network has been reset, so you will need to reseed from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref (save that over your existing seednodes.ref and restart the node). There are likely to be Does this mean that the stable and unstable networks have merged? Nope. Unstable remains separate. Yesterday's retrieval of CofE and DFI were most likely due to people switching from unstable to stable (bringing their cache along) when stable build 5054 came out. Today I can't get an activelink for CofE and DFI doesn't load (but I can still see the active link). Other bookmarks work as they should, so the above is the most likely explanation. Nice work recently on Freenet Toad, stable works extremely well now compared to just a few weeks ago! regards, ___/ _/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] Stable Build 5054: Multiplexing merged!
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:00:16 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main change in this build is that multiplexing has been merged after weeks of development and testing. The network has been reset, so you will need to reseed from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref (save that over your existing seednodes.ref and restart the node). There are likely to be Does this mean that the stable and unstable networks have merged? The first thing I got after upgrading and reseeding was the active links for Cofe and DFI - and neither were in stable as far as I know. regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] How to update on a Windows machine??
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 9:52:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things don't seem to be as straight forward on a windows machine. For linux update, I just ran update.sh. What the heck to do I do to update on a windows machine? Sorry for the dumb question, but I can't find any simple documentation or user's guides either. Start - Program Files - Freenet - Update Snapshot ___/ _/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: Status report and request for help was Re: [freenet-support] Request for help: Seednodes harvesting notworking well
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 02:42:19 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was attempting to fix the problem of there being no stable seednodes that actually work. In other words, any new nodes (unless installed by someone who knows what they are doing) will immediately fail, not talk to any other nodes, and give no semblance of working. As opposed to the usual behaviour of connecting to a few nodes and still not working :). http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref now contains several stable noderefs, so if your stable node needs reseeding, you should be able to do it. New nodes should be able to connect to several other nodes and therefore become part of the network. As this will have prevented new users from using freenet at all, it seemed to be a fairly high priority. I recently had my IP changed, and after that I experienced Freenet (which was perfectly usuable from my node before) acted worse. I thought I could fix it by reseeding .. .. and that was a major mistake. Now Freenet is, for all purposes, dead here. I cannot even get the bookmarks of the web interface. So - stable nodes with a working network might want to export their seeds so that the rest of us can join in again :) I guess the situation I ended up with now is the same as for new nodes - and as Toad pointed out - that needs to be fixed ASAP. regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] how many existing ways to announce a new Freesite?
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:28:58 +0800, Stupid C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i know, current Freenet cannot be searched yet. Freenet is just as searchable as the regular world wide web. regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] Is there a user forum anywhere
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:08:27 -0800, Art Charbonneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an English language forum anywhere on the WWW (or elsewhere) where Freenet users can assist each other? That might be too anonymity-compromising for a lot of users. Why not use Frost or maybe IIP? regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5048
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:05:52 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one change in this build relative to 5047 is to fix a bug that was causing the browser warning to not be sent if the user configured Opera to identify as itself. We do check for Opera and IE, because by default Opera ignores the MIME type like IE and therefore is vulnerable to unfiltered HTML compromizing the user's anonymity. There was a bug in ... and for those who undoubtedly became interested in which Opera-setting to change, it's Preferences - File Types - Determine action by MIME type that should be selected. regards, ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:57:49 +, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: freenet:// handled by Opera, Firebird etc. If Freenet isn't installed, a redirection to http://freenet.sf.net where the download links are more prominently displayed. We have debated the whole freenet:xxx thing before and there are serious problems with it - not least of which that it will force us to start maintaining a different Freenet plugin for each version of each different web browser, this could rapidly turn into a support nightmare. Combine this with the fact that there is little other than an asthetic benefit to this. You asked what is needed for general acceptance of Freenet, I replied. I've advocated Freenet for a long time along my peers (I'm a professional Software Engineer, specialising in crypto/security issues) - and trying to get people to visit links to http://localhost: isn't working. Other programs (e2dk:// I believe) do this - Freenet needs it as well. My experience is that this is a central issue for regular people - your mileage may of course differ. This is a project where I would expect people who feel strongly about the issue to be the ones who'll maintain it. I'll gladly do what needs to be done towards Opera since that's my browser of choice. ___/ _/ -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:03:33 +, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how are you trying to get people to visit such links? Verbally? If Thanks for calling Freenet advocates idiots - but the reaction is more pity from my side than anything else. http://localhost:; is what people find weird. They're used to http://; ftp://; etc and for them Freenet isn't serious until treated likewise. I'll look into what needs to be done, and simply do it. It doesn't matter if you think it's purely cosmetic or not :) ___/ _/ -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas
Quoting Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's first impression can be enhanced. Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout. freenet:// handled by Opera, Firebird etc. If Freenet isn't installed, a redirection to http://freenet.sf.net where the download links are more prominently displayed. There _has_ to be a question when installing asking the user if he/she pays for bandwidth (esp outgoing) and set the configuration in Freenet accordingly - bad press resulting from Joe Doe installing Freenet and getting $1000 bills (think NZ, OZ) isn't good. More advertising. Atm Diebold are shutting down sites hosting their memos using the DMCA. Educate the world to the fact that Freenet can be used for the public good - the memos are already available in Freenet. Better portals. People _don't_ want links to child pornography (no, I don't want a discussion, flamefest etc, I'm talking the general public who want to USE Freenet) to be the first thing they see. Instead the top portal should contain links like the Diebold one, the Scientology Bible etc. Advertise the fact that Freedom of Speach is the central issue. I just wrote a comment to an article in Sweden's largest IT-newssite where I brought this up (regarding the Swedish military wanting to tap regular users' Internet-connections). This is where we need to push Freenet. (http://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/200310/31/20031031135522_SOS/20031031135522_SOS. dbp.asp for the ones who can read Swedish) ___/ _/ - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
