Re: LogIn Problems

2009-06-26 Thread Cedar

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Win XP and SM 1.1.16.  I've been having a lot of problems logging in 
to various sites, one being my bank site, another is ebay!, 
etc...almost any site that requires a login gives me problems, usually 
involving booting me back to the login screen over and over and over 
again.  Any ideas?  Something with cookies?


Most likely.

Have you changed your cookie preferences? For example, if your policy 
now rejects cookies that you previously accepted, you'll be shut out. Or 
if you started enforcing a policy that was previously theoretical.


Edit | Preferences | Cookie Acceptance Policy: Allow cookies based on 
privacy settings (View Privacy Settings)




Actually, I have never changed any settings in the privacy settings as I 
just can't seem to wrap my head around how all that works, even.  I 
usually just have my Cookie Acceptance Policy on Block Cookies and then 
use the Tools menu cookie manager on a site by site basis to allow 
cookies from the sites that I want to allow.  Maybe this is where I'm 
messing up somehow.?  Maybe that doesn't work for some reason?

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Re: LogIn Problems

2009-06-26 Thread Cedar

Cedar wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Cedar wrote:

Win XP and SM 1.1.16.  I've been having a lot of problems logging in 
to various sites, one being my bank site, another is ebay!, 
etc...almost any site that requires a login gives me problems, 
usually involving booting me back to the login screen over and over 
and over again.  Any ideas?  Something with cookies?


Most likely.

Have you changed your cookie preferences? For example, if your policy 
now rejects cookies that you previously accepted, you'll be shut out. 
Or if you started enforcing a policy that was previously theoretical.


Edit | Preferences | Cookie Acceptance Policy: Allow cookies based on 
privacy settings (View Privacy Settings)




Actually, I have never changed any settings in the privacy settings as I 
just can't seem to wrap my head around how all that works, even.  I 
usually just have my Cookie Acceptance Policy on Block Cookies and then 
use the Tools menu cookie manager on a site by site basis to allow 
cookies from the sites that I want to allow.  Maybe this is where I'm 
messing up somehow.?  Maybe that doesn't work for some reason?


Hmmm...this seems weird.  I set the Cookie Acceptance Policy to Allow 
Cookies for the Originating Website Only and the Cookie Retention Policy 
to Accept Cookies Normally and now am able to get into my ebay account! 
 Also I see the Tools menu Cookie Manager automatically reset to Use 
Default Cookie Permissions.   Is this normal behaviour?  Am I 
misunderstanding how the Tools menu cookie manager settings are supposed 
to work?  What is going on?!??  It would sure be nice if the Tools menu 
cookie manager would work the way it appears to be meant to work, it's 
such a pain to have to dig into that preferences panel every time I want 
to log in to a site!

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Re: LogIn Problems

2009-06-26 Thread Lucas Levrel
Le 26 juin 2009, Cedar a écrit :
 Hmmm...this seems weird.  I set the Cookie Acceptance Policy to Allow Cookies
 for the Originating Website Only and the Cookie Retention Policy to Accept
 Cookies Normally and now am able to get into my ebay account!  Also I see the
 Tools menu Cookie Manager automatically reset to Use Default Cookie
 Permissions.   Is this normal behaviour?

Sometimes a website at address www.foo.com will file cookies under derived 
addresses like bar.foo.com. SM considers them as different servers. Try 
this: set Retention Policy to Ask for each cookie. Then the dialog will 
let you see that address. If you don't do that you won't be able to set 
policy for such addresses, because you won't land on a page with that 
address unless the cookie is set up!

Ebay (ab)uses such multiple addresses. Look at this excerpt from my 
hostperm.1 file:
hostcookie  8   myworld.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   jeux-video.listings.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   signin.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   cgi6.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   contact.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   cgi3.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   informatique-pda.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   listings.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   sofe.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   jeux-video.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   frame.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   my.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   rover.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   secureportal.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   scgi.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   feedback.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   www.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   payments.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   shiptrack.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   search.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   pages.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   maison-jardin.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   promo.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   jeux-video.search.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   cgi.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   hub.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   offer.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   catalog.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   shop.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   stores.ebay.fr
hostcookie  2   search.avis-membres.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   cgi4.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   bmsgs.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   search-desc.ebay.fr
hostcookie  8   cgi1.ebay.fr

What you can do is edit your hostperm.1, remove all lines with 
???.ebay.[com/co.uk/fr/whatyoulike], and put a single line like
hostcookie  8   ebay.[com/etc.]
(These spaces are single tabs in fact.)

Do this while SM is not running. This setting will apply to all derived 
addresses. 8 is for allowing session cookies, 1 for mere allowing, 2 
for blocking.

Hope this helps.

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LL
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Re: Can't forward emails with pictures

2009-06-26 Thread Palikari ATL
On May 21, 6:56 pm, JeffM jef...@email.com wrote:
 Serge Popper wrote:
 Up until a week or so ago, I was able to forward emails, inline,
 with photos in them.

 ...clogging up everyone's inbox and using up their bandwidth.

 Now, I am only able to forward emails inline with text in them.

 Problem solved.  In the future,
 park the pictures on a server and mail ONLY THE LINKS[1];
 allow *the reciepients* to DECIDE how they want to use
 their bandwidth and their storage space.

 Email was never intended to transmit BINARY data.
 The overhead necessary to do that
 ADDS to the bandwidth burden clueless people impose on others.

 ...and pass this information on
 to the dim bulb who emailed the images to you.
 .
 .
 Giving the files USEFUL names helps.

What an ASS!   Get off of dial-up and get more bandwith.  Most NORMAL
people like to send pics in their e-mail!!!
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Re: Can't forward emails with pictures

2009-06-26 Thread Daniel

Palikari ATL wrote:

On May 21, 6:56 pm, JeffM jef...@email.com wrote:

Serge Popper wrote:

Up until a week or so ago, I was able to forward emails, inline,
with photos in them.

...clogging up everyone's inbox and using up their bandwidth.


Now, I am only able to forward emails inline with text in them.

Problem solved.  In the future,
park the pictures on a server and mail ONLY THE LINKS[1];
allow *the reciepients* to DECIDE how they want to use
their bandwidth and their storage space.

Email was never intended to transmit BINARY data.
The overhead necessary to do that
ADDS to the bandwidth burden clueless people impose on others.

...and pass this information on
to the dim bulb who emailed the images to you.
.
.
Giving the files USEFUL names helps.


What an ASS!   Get off of dial-up and get more bandwith.  Most NORMAL
people like to send pics in their e-mail!!!


Yes, Palikari, you are an ASS!!!

Some of us have no option BUT dial-up. Most NORMAL people MUST be very 
inconsiderate, then.


Daniel
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Re: Java JVM Ver6 Build 14 not run or install on SeaMonkey

2009-06-26 Thread INFO WG
One should also note that the Sun Java installer error is seen (at least until 
Sun staffers fix it and re-issue a 100% working installer) in XP SP1, SP2 level 
machines more than seen somewhat more rarely in SP3 level XP machines, and is 
very rarely seen in Vista machines.
 
Information and discussions with both MS insiders and InstallShield staffers so 
far brings more finger pointing than anything else, but again, IF you or other 
users see the problem, it appears to have an easy workaround:

http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10747256#10747256

The importance of mentioning all this in many Forums, SeaMonkey included, is 
that it affects most all updating Java users, or systems or applications that 
depend on Java for certain proper operations or browser or Email display, etc, 
etc.

Joe

- Original Message ---


From: James res07...@gte.net
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Java JVM Ver6 Build 14 not run or install on SeaMonkey


FYI:
.
. Sun Forums
The specified thread [0] was not found.
.
.
I upgraded to the latest Java a few days ago and it did not work on SM 
116.  Then I upgraded to SM 117 and now Java works fine.

James
.

INFO WG wrote:
 RE: Sun Java JVM Ver6 Build 14 not running / installing on SeaMonkey
  
 Be advised that Sun has a major Installer problem on their hands with this 
 JVM version, aka JRE update 14, aka . Seems to affect XP machines much more 
 than Vista machines.
 
 The problem has a GOOD EASY fix, so
  
 Some of the communications + fix RE: this problem is at:
  
 http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10747256#10747256
  
 as the problem affects the users, systems, and if you can't solve the 
 Installer problem as above, the JVM is usually not installed at all and you 
 are and will remain Java-less and SOL.
 
 Joe
 

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wrap issue when replying

2009-06-26 Thread HeavyDuty

SM 1.1.17, Win XP Pro SP3

I received several messages from a particular sender. When 
viewed in the in-box screen, the sender's text wrapped to 
form nice paragraphs. View message reveals that the original 
message is in plain text and not html.


But when I selected reply and opened the compose window, the 
 original text was quoted as one line of text a mile (1.6 
kilometers) long!


Is there some setting to force quoted text (or for that 
matter composed text) to wrap at 60 (72) characters?

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Re: wrap issue when replying

2009-06-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

HeavyDuty wrote:


SM 1.1.17, Win XP Pro SP3

I received several messages from a particular sender. When viewed in the 
in-box screen, the sender's text wrapped to form nice paragraphs. View 
message reveals that the original message is in plain text and not html.


But when I selected reply and opened the compose window, the  original 
text was quoted as one line of text a mile (1.6 kilometers) long!


Is there some setting to force quoted text (or for that matter composed 
text) to wrap at 60 (72) characters?


As a first draft, yes: Edit | Rewrap in the composition window.

The setting for line length is at Edit | Mail  Newsgroups | 
Composition: Wrap plain text messages at nn characters.


But if the source is sloppy, the results may also be sloppy. For 
example, if paragraphs are not separated by an extra return (a blank 
line), SeaMonkey (like Mozilla before it) will wrap them together as one 
paragraph. Also, if the quote marks in the original are wrong, SeaMonkey 
(like Mozilla before it) doesn't think to correct them. Thus:

 This is a quoted reply that is
 mismarked.
will be treated as two separate authors.

Often when you have a single long line with one quote mark, SeaMonkey 
(like Mozilla before it) will rewrap with one quote mark on the first 
line and leave the other lines unmarked. You can manually enter the 
quote marks and rewrap again, but it's an extra step.


And finally, some HTML mails will be treated as if they had returns 
after every line, so rewrapping will introduce extra blank lines within 
paragraphs:


 This is an example

 of what I'm talking about.

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War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
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Re: wrap issue when replying

2009-06-26 Thread HeavyDuty

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:


SM 1.1.17, Win XP Pro SP3

I received several messages from a particular sender. When viewed in 
the in-box screen, the sender's text wrapped to form nice paragraphs. 
View message reveals that the original message is in plain text and 
not html.


But when I selected reply and opened the compose window, the  original 
text was quoted as one line of text a mile (1.6 kilometers) long!


Is there some setting to force quoted text (or for that matter 
composed text) to wrap at 60 (72) characters?


As a first draft, yes: Edit | Rewrap in the composition window.

That certainly does the trick.



The setting for line length is at edit Edit | Mail  Newsgroups | 
Composition: Wrap plain text messages at nn characters.


I think you meant to type Edit |PREFERENCES | 
mail  Newsgroups | Composition: Wrap plain text 
messages at nn characters.


And that also works.



But if the source is sloppy, the results may also be sloppy. For 
example, if paragraphs are not separated by an extra return (a blank 
line), SeaMonkey (like Mozilla before it) will wrap them together as one 
paragraph. Also, if the quote marks in the original are wrong, SeaMonkey 
(like Mozilla before it) doesn't think to correct them. Thus:

 This is a quoted reply that is
 mismarked.
will be treated as two separate authors.

Often when you have a single long line with one quote mark, SeaMonkey 
(like Mozilla before it) will rewrap with one quote mark on the first 
line and leave the other lines unmarked. You can manually enter the 
quote marks and rewrap again, but it's an extra step.


And finally, some HTML mails will be treated as if they had returns 
after every line, so rewrapping will introduce extra blank lines within 
paragraphs:


 This is an example

 of what I'm talking about.



Thank you for the explanation as to why, from 
time to time in my replies, the line-up of the 
quoted text is so odd.

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Re: wrap issue when replying

2009-06-26 Thread Martin Feitag

HeavyDuty schrieb:

SM 1.1.17, Win XP Pro SP3

I received several messages from a particular sender. When viewed in the
in-box screen, the sender's text wrapped to form nice paragraphs. View
message reveals that the original message is in plain text and not html.

But when I selected reply and opened the compose window, the original
text was quoted as one line of text a mile (1.6 kilometers) long!

Is there some setting to force quoted text (or for that matter composed
text) to wrap at 60 (72) characters?


if it happens even with your new settings in the future: Ctrl+R forces a 
re-wrap in the reply-window ;-)

regards

Martin
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slow message loading in NGs at Email

2009-06-26 Thread zvn[]teq[7]
I've asked this before, but in 1.1.17 it seems to have gotten worse. 
Message loading in the newsgroups take 2 to 2.5 times longer to load 
than Thunderbird. Anyone else have this happening? Is there some setting 
I may have screwed up with? I *REALLY* love Seamonkey's browser (light 
as a feather and fast as lightening) but the Email/NG client seems to be 
heavy as an Ox :/ Any help with this greatly appreciated :)


Thanks in advance :)
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Re: slow message loading in NGs at Email

2009-06-26 Thread zvn[]teq[7]

zvn[]teq[7] wrote:
I've asked this before, but in 1.1.17 it seems to have gotten worse. 
Message loading in the newsgroups take 2 to 2.5 times longer to load 
than Thunderbird. Anyone else have this happening? Is there some setting 
I may have screwed up with? I *REALLY* love Seamonkey's browser (light 
as a feather and fast as lightening) but the Email/NG client seems to be 
heavy as an Ox :/ Any help with this greatly appreciated :)


Thanks in advance :)

oops I meant :slow message loading in NGs *and* Email
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