Re: Why so many up-grades?
Bill Davidsen schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: From my testing of 2.1 I would say that a clear spec of how to write conforming extensions, possibly with some trivial example, is desirable. Feel free to write one up, we are an open community. We are trying to write up and maintain documents about the major changes, but we are simply unable to document every single change, and we have to create the actual application with a very small team first, else there simply isn't anything to document. I'm not talking about a change log, I'm talking about documenting the API. Me as well. And the API for add-ons is basically the whole application. That's both a blessing and a course, of course - on one hand you can hook into _anything_ in the whole application with add-ons and have the most freedom there you could ever have, on the other, it's imply impossible to write documentation that is readable and covers all that. In other words: The code is the only documentation that can really cover everything. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
Bill Davidsen schrieb: Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Hah! Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more excitement... ;-) Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Eliminating 'remembered' data
HenriK wrote: With SeaMonkey 2.06 running under XP-Pro SP3 + all subsequent XP upgrades, I find that with certain websites where I fill in data to use the site I am visiting, SeaMonkey has 'remembered' what I entered the last time I was using that particular website and this previously entered data automatically pops up as I start to fill in the box where the information previously entered. SeaMonkey is not 'remembering' passwords that I enter, however. I am uncomfortable, for security reasons, with SeaMonkey keeping previously entered data somewhere. What part of the program is responsible for this and how do I get the 'remembering' to stop? In case this could be an add-on caused problem, I have Better Privacy, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Down Them All, JavaScript Debugger, and NoScript installed. Help! All advice, suggestions, and/or pointers to appropriate tutorials will be most appreciated. I have the same problem without any add-on installed except french language and french dictionary. Therefore the problem is not located in an add-on. So the question is still open: How can we disable the suggested list of logon id's ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey migration question
Bill Davidsen wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: I created a new profile for Seamonkey 2 and am trying to manually transfer important data from Seamonkey 1.19. I've figured out how to move the address book and bookmarks but can't figure out where to put msgfilterrules.dat and training.dat, also the *.s and *.w files that I usually move -- are there instructions posted anywhere? What problem did you have using the built-in migration? I have migrated multiple accounts and machines, most with multiple profiles, and the problems seem to be limited: - you lose all your form fill data - you have to migrate your profiles one at a time manually (you can let auto migrate do the first if you wish) I don't see any benefit from doing the migrate manually, I don't think you can do a better job and you risk messing things up. I was installing Seamonkey 2 on a new laptop and didn't see how migration would work between machines. Also, I'm still using 1.1.18 and WinXP on my other machines; and those profiles are ancient, so I was hoping to try out SM 2 completely clean (while hoping not to lose those features that are incredibly important to me, such as e-mail filters and stored passwords). Anyway, I finally puzzled out how to move most of what I need, and can live without the rest (form fill data, junk mail training). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: All of a sudden today I get a message saying inbox folder is full. I have deleted over 1000 messages, compacted the folder, closed and reopened mail, and restarted the computer. Still get the message inbox full when I try to get mail. Any help appreciated in how to fix this. L.D. I would normally suggest that you need to Compact your Inbox, but it seems you've already done that so.. With Seamonkey closed, use you My Computer or Windows Explorer to locate your inbox (the one without an extension) to see what size it is, then right click on it, have a look at the Properties to make sure it is not marked as Read Only Report back. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Eliminating 'remembered' data
Ray_Net wrote: HenriK wrote: With SeaMonkey 2.06 running under XP-Pro SP3 + all subsequent XP upgrades, I find that with certain websites where I fill in data to use the site I am visiting, SeaMonkey has 'remembered' what I entered the last time I was using that particular website and this previously entered data automatically pops up as I start to fill in the box where the information previously entered. SeaMonkey is not 'remembering' passwords that I enter, however. I am uncomfortable, for security reasons, with SeaMonkey keeping previously entered data somewhere. What part of the program is responsible for this and how do I get the 'remembering' to stop? In case this could be an add-on caused problem, I have Better Privacy, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Down Them All, JavaScript Debugger, and NoScript installed. Help! All advice, suggestions, and/or pointers to appropriate tutorials will be most appreciated. I have the same problem without any add-on installed except french language and french dictionary. Therefore the problem is not located in an add-on. So the question is still open: How can we disable the suggested list of logon id's ? Have a look at Edit-Preferences-PrivacySecurity-Passwords. Have you got a tick in the Remember passwords box?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: All of a sudden today I get a message saying inbox folder is full. I have deleted over 1000 messages, compacted the folder, closed and reopened mail, and restarted the computer. Still get the message inbox full when I try to get mail. Any help appreciated in how to fix this. L.D. In addition to the mailbox cleanup and compact actions, check to see how much hard drive space you've got available, wherever the profile is stored. If your profile is in a non-default location, that hard drive volume may be running out of space. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
On 9/30/2010 6:34 AM Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Hah! Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more excitement... ;-) Robert Kaiser Be daring - use 2.0.9pre :-) -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ There are only two great currents in the history of mankind: the baseness which makes conservatives and the envy which makes revolutionaries. ~Edmond de Goncourt and Jules de Goncourt ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
Rickles wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: All of a sudden today I get a message saying inbox folder is full. I have deleted over 1000 messages, compacted the folder, closed and reopened mail, and restarted the computer. Still get the message inbox full when I try to get mail. Any help appreciated in how to fix this. L.D. In addition to the mailbox cleanup and compact actions, check to see how much hard drive space you've got available, wherever the profile is stored. If your profile is in a non-default location, that hard drive volume may be running out of space. I checked hard drive space. More than half free. I can't find inbox folder. Looked in Mozilla, Seamonkey and did a search for inbox ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 6:34 AM Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Hah! Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more excitement... ;-) Robert Kaiser Be daring - use 2.0.9pre :-) Be more daring and use 2.1b1. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Eliminating 'remembered' data
Daniel wrote: Ray_Net wrote: HenriK wrote: With SeaMonkey 2.06 running under XP-Pro SP3 + all subsequent XP upgrades, I find that with certain websites where I fill in data to use the site I am visiting, SeaMonkey has 'remembered' what I entered the last time I was using that particular website and this previously entered data automatically pops up as I start to fill in the box where the information previously entered. SeaMonkey is not 'remembering' passwords that I enter, however. I am uncomfortable, for security reasons, with SeaMonkey keeping previously entered data somewhere. What part of the program is responsible for this and how do I get the 'remembering' to stop? In case this could be an add-on caused problem, I have Better Privacy, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Down Them All, JavaScript Debugger, and NoScript installed. Help! All advice, suggestions, and/or pointers to appropriate tutorials will be most appreciated. I have the same problem without any add-on installed except french language and french dictionary. Therefore the problem is not located in an add-on. So the question is still open: How can we disable the suggested list of logon id's ? Have a look at Edit-Preferences-PrivacySecurity-Passwords. Have you got a tick in the Remember passwords box?? Daniel As noted in my original post, this is NOT a passwords issue. What I am referring to is other data where one simply fills in boxes on a website. For security reasons, I don't want this (or any other) information 'remembered'. Could this be a 'cookie' issue? I had thought the add-ons I have installed would delete any 'cookie' information at the end of a given session but this seems not to be the case. Help still needed as I am out of my depth. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Rickles wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: All of a sudden today I get a message saying inbox folder is full. I have deleted over 1000 messages, compacted the folder, closed and reopened mail, and restarted the computer. Still get the message inbox full when I try to get mail. Any help appreciated in how to fix this. L.D. In addition to the mailbox cleanup and compact actions, check to see how much hard drive space you've got available, wherever the profile is stored. If your profile is in a non-default location, that hard drive volume may be running out of space. I checked hard drive space. More than half free. I can't find inbox folder. Looked in Mozilla, Seamonkey and did a search for inbox On a Windows machine, the default location would be C:\Documents and Settings\YourNameHere\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default\Mail\maildirectory where YourNameHere is your name for purposes of the Windows OS, is a random alphanumeric string, and maildirectory is normally your ISP's POP mail server name (if you have several accounts within the profile, this is the easiest way to tell them apart). You should see a file called Inbox, another file called Inbox.msf, and a folder called Inbox.sbd. The first one contains the actual messages, the second is an index file, and the third would contain any subdirectories of Inbox. Under the conditions you describe, it seems likely that the error message is erroneous (some program somewhere is confused). It wouldn't be the first time a program reported insufficient disk space when the problem was completely unrelated. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Eliminating 'remembered' data
HenriK a écrit : As noted in my original post, this is NOT a passwords issue. What I am referring to is other data where one simply fills in boxes on a website. It might not be a password issue per se, but I believe it's the same engine that remembers all this info, thus the password setting is the one that activates or disactivate this behaviour. Make sure that box is unchecked, as well as, under Confidentiality and security, the one for Search and form data. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: All of a sudden today I get a message saying inbox folder is full. I have deleted over 1000 messages, compacted the folder, closed and reopened mail, and restarted the computer. Still get the message inbox full when I try to get mail. Any help appreciated in how to fix this. L.D. Could that be a message from your ISP? Are you leaving messages on their server, maybe by mistake? Have you checked your mail settings on each mail account you have? bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 10:37 AM WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 6:34 AM Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Hah! Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more excitement... ;-) Robert Kaiser Be daring - use 2.0.9pre :-) Be more daring and use 2.1b1. WLS I am running it on a different computer. But not really putting it through its paces. Using 2.0.9pre on this one (main system). I have SM2.1b1, TB3.3a1pre Shredder (love that name), and FF4b6 on this PC, with different profiles for SM and FF. Now if I could only figure out to get the plugins I have already installed for SM 2.0.8 and FF 3.6.10 to work with the new versions I'd put them through their paces. I did it once before, but don't remember how. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
browser fragmentation
different developers have differing views of what a browser should do: http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/editors/25812/?nlid=3573 faster? avatar? ad blocker? ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Eliminating 'remembered' data
S. Beaulieu wrote: HenriK a écrit : As noted in my original post, this is NOT a passwords issue. What I am referring to is other data where one simply fills in boxes on a website. It might not be a password issue per se, but I believe it's the same engine that remembers all this info, thus the password setting is the one that activates or disactivate this behaviour. Make sure that box is unchecked, as well as, under Confidentiality and security, the one for Search and form data. S. fields in javascript can remember a lot of data under different field names. What is the add-on tool to deal with that? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can't Get Hotmail
I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go to http://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. I've tried spoofing Firefox. I've tried safe mode. I've tried viewing all images (instead of images only from the same domain). I've tried disabiling Ad-Block Plus. None of this helps. I've also tried using IE 7. About three lines of text show, too briefly to make out what they are saying. Then I get a blank screen. Does anyone know what is happening? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
On 9/30/10 10:27 AM, David E. Ross wrote: I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go to http://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. I've tried spoofing Firefox. I've tried safe mode. I've tried viewing all images (instead of images only from the same domain). I've tried disabiling Ad-Block Plus. None of this helps. I've also tried using IE 7. About three lines of text show, too briefly to make out what they are saying. Then I get a blank screen. Does anyone know what is happening? My configuration is: Windows XP Home Edition (Service Pack 3) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.13) Gecko/20100914 SeaMonkey/2.0.8 with Menu, Navigation, Status, and PrefBar bars displayed Cookies for the originating Web site only JavaScript enabled -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 10:37 AM WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 6:34 AM Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Hah! Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more excitement... ;-) Robert Kaiser Be daring - use 2.0.9pre :-) Be more daring and use 2.1b1. WLS I am running it on a different computer. But not really putting it through its paces. Using 2.0.9pre on this one (main system). I have SM2.1b1, TB3.3a1pre Shredder (love that name), and FF4b6 on this PC, with different profiles for SM and FF. Now if I could only figure out to get the plugins I have already installed for SM 2.0.8 and FF 3.6.10 to work with the new versions I'd put them through their paces. I did it once before, but don't remember how. You need to download the .xpi file, unzip it, edit the install.rdf file to up the maximum version level for the app (SM or FF), then re-zip the .xpi file and install it. It may work or not. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Stable relationships are for horses. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
chicagofan wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: All of a sudden today I get a message saying inbox folder is full. I have deleted over 1000 messages, compacted the folder, closed and reopened mail, and restarted the computer. Still get the message inbox full when I try to get mail. Any help appreciated in how to fix this. L.D. Could that be a message from your ISP? Are you leaving messages on their server, maybe by mistake? Have you checked your mail settings on each mail account you have? bj I still can't find inbox folder. I did check with isp and all is ok plus I can go to the isp web and get my new messages there. The isp is ATT ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How do I stop seamonkey from pushing updates to my system?
SM 2.0.8 (now) on an MS W7 system. How do I stop seamonkey central from automatically pushing updates to my system?! I do want to be able to: check if there are updates available for my installed version of SM, and have the ability to then: select, download, and at a time of my choosing install the downloaded updates. Also I want to be able to read a description of what each of the updates changes, especially in sms' behaviour, i.e. the user interface. It was most disconcerting to have SM suddenly begin installing its' 2.0.6 -- 2.0.8 update, especially when the system popped up an alert that the update may not have installed correctly and I could/should retry the installation. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I stop seamonkey from pushing updates to my system?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: I do want to be able to: check if there are updates available for my installed version of SM, and have the ability to then: select, download, and at a time of my choosing install the downloaded updates. SeaMonkey 2.1 will have graphical preference settings to only inform you of updates but not fetch and install them right away. For 2.0.x, you need to find them in about:config and I can't tell you off the top of my head how they're named. Also I want to be able to read a description of what each of the updates changes, especially in sms' behaviour, i.e. the user interface. We never automatically install updates that change the UI, we only install security/stability updates automatically, which should not change the behavior of the application in any way (other than crashing less and fixing potential or known security risks). Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net a écrit : I still can't find inbox folder. You need to make sure that you set up your OS to show hidden files or else you won't see your profile. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I stop seamonkey from pushing updates to my system?
On 9/30/10 11:20 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.0.8 (now) on an MS W7 system. How do I stop seamonkey central from automatically pushing updates to my system?! I do want to be able to: check if there are updates available for my installed version of SM, and have the ability to then: select, download, and at a time of my choosing install the downloaded updates. Also I want to be able to read a description of what each of the updates changes, especially in sms' behaviour, i.e. the user interface. It was most disconcerting to have SM suddenly begin installing its' 2.0.6 -- 2.0.8 update, especially when the system popped up an alert that the update may not have installed correctly and I could/should retry the installation. For SeaMonkey 2.0.x, go to the menu bar and select [Edit Preferences]. On the Preferences window, select the + to the left of Advanced under Category (left side of window). Under Advanced, select Software Installation. On the Software Installation pane, uncheck the checkbox for Allow web sites to install extensions and updates. Note that I also uncheck the checkbox for SeaMonkey under Automatically check for updates to. Instead, I rely on notices in this newsgroup regarding updates to SeaMonkey itself. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How do I throttle the download manager?
SM 2.0.8 on an MS W7 system. Whenever I pull up an email message that contains some attachments from one of my folders, SM invokes the download manager to transfer the attachment from my mail folder to some intermediate location for processing. It documents this step by opening the download manager window and filling in a line about this transfer. How do I stop this annoying activity by the download manager? Yes, of course, I do want to be shown the progress, status, and final disposition, of any download into my system from an 'external source'. But unless there is a specific reason, I don't want to be bothered by notifications of each internal file extraction from messages in my mail folders to 'temp' -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
S. Beaulieu wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net a écrit : I still can't find inbox folder. You need to make sure that you set up your OS to show hidden files or else you won't see your profile. Looks like the OP is on XP. http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_profile.php http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/win_fcab_show_file_extensions.mspx -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ A closed mouth gathers no feet. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do I stop seamonkey from pushing updates to my system?
David E. Ross wrote: On 9/30/10 11:20 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.0.8 (now) on an MS W7 system. How do I stop seamonkey central from automatically pushing updates to my system?! I do want to be able to: check if there are updates available for my installed version of SM, and have the ability to then: select, download, and at a time of my choosing install the downloaded updates. Also I want to be able to read a description of what each of the updates changes, especially in sms' behaviour, i.e. the user interface. It was most disconcerting to have SM suddenly begin installing its' 2.0.6 -- 2.0.8 update, especially when the system popped up an alert that the update may not have installed correctly and I could/should retry the installation. For SeaMonkey 2.0.x, go to the menu bar and select [Edit Preferences]. On the Preferences window, select the + to the left of Advanced under Category (left side of window). Under Advanced, select Software Installation. On the Software Installation pane, uncheck the checkbox for Allow web sites to install extensions and updates. Note that I also uncheck the checkbox for SeaMonkey under Automatically check for updates to. Instead, I rely on notices in this newsgroup regarding updates to SeaMonkey itself. Thank you for the quick response. I have now unchecked all three checkboxes in the Software Installation section. Of course I won't see if it works as expected until the next updates are released. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
Ed Mullen wrote: WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 10:37 AM WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 6:34 AM Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Hah! Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more excitement... ;-) Robert Kaiser Be daring - use 2.0.9pre :-) Be more daring and use 2.1b1. WLS I am running it on a different computer. But not really putting it through its paces. Using 2.0.9pre on this one (main system). I have SM2.1b1, TB3.3a1pre Shredder (love that name), and FF4b6 on this PC, with different profiles for SM and FF. Now if I could only figure out to get the plugins I have already installed for SM 2.0.8 and FF 3.6.10 to work with the new versions I'd put them through their paces. I did it once before, but don't remember how. You need to download the .xpi file, unzip it, edit the install.rdf file to up the maximum version level for the app (SM or FF), then re-zip the .xpi file and install it. It may work or not. Did I say extensions? I'm sorry I meant plug-ins, like Java, Flash, etc WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trash restore
Beverly Howard wrote: any one know what is wrong with my settings I would guess that the email account is set to empty trash on exit edit/mailnews.../account/server/empty... Beverly Howard Sorry for the delay thanks for your input I have put three emails in my trash folder 3K in size empty trash on exit not set and on close it went to 0 But on one account of six in that profile it is I thought each account was separate or could it be the cause Also I have always taken compact folder to apply on account selected or is it a global action across all accounts in that profile thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
David E. Ross wrote: I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go to http://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.18 (^1) and has a hotmail account. Sometimes she gets a blank page; next time she'll get the login, and that will fail; next time it works perfectly. There might be an hour or two between attempts. Spoofing as IE7 doesn't help. She may sit down at my computer and use Firefox. Same thing... This started several months ago. I blame it all on Microsoft!! ^1 .. and doesn't want me to upgrade it. :-) -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email problem
Ed Mullen wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net a écrit : I still can't find inbox folder. You need to make sure that you set up your OS to show hidden files or else you won't see your profile. Looks like the OP is on XP. http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_profile.php http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/win_fcab_show_file_extensions.mspx I found the inbox when I changed to show hidden files. They aren't marked read only. Can I reinstall Seamonkey to maybe fix the problem and not lose anything? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
WLS wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 10:37 AM WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 6:34 AM Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Hah! Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more excitement... ;-) Robert Kaiser Be daring - use 2.0.9pre :-) Be more daring and use 2.1b1. WLS I am running it on a different computer. But not really putting it through its paces. Using 2.0.9pre on this one (main system). I have SM2.1b1, TB3.3a1pre Shredder (love that name), and FF4b6 on this PC, with different profiles for SM and FF. Now if I could only figure out to get the plugins I have already installed for SM 2.0.8 and FF 3.6.10 to work with the new versions I'd put them through their paces. I did it once before, but don't remember how. You need to download the .xpi file, unzip it, edit the install.rdf file to up the maximum version level for the app (SM or FF), then re-zip the .xpi file and install it. It may work or not. Did I say extensions? I'm sorry I meant plug-ins, like Java, Flash, etc Ooops! I read plugins but my brain thought extensions. Not sure where Linux stores plugins but in Windows I believe by default they're stored in the program installation folder in a sub-folder called plugins. Some are installed in other locations but SM scans for them automatically. To find them in your older installations set the preference plugin.expose_full_path to true then do Help - About Plugins in SM. In FF enter about:plugins in the location bar and hit Enter. Once you locate them you can copy them to the new installations. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ What's so great about sliced bread? Isn't the bread slicer really more impressive? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
On 9/30/10 2:09 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I have been trying to check my Hotmail account via the Web. When I go to http://www.hotmail.com/, all I see is a blank page. My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.18 (^1) and has a hotmail account. Sometimes she gets a blank page; next time she'll get the login, and that will fail; next time it works perfectly. There might be an hour or two between attempts. Spoofing as IE7 doesn't help. She may sit down at my computer and use Firefox. Same thing... This started several months ago. I blame it all on Microsoft!! ^1 .. and doesn't want me to upgrade it. :-) My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.19. Her old PC does not have the capacity for Windows XP, so she still uses Windows 98. However, her PC is starting to get cranky; so I think I might get her a new one before the end of the year. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
Ed Mullen wrote: WLS wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 10:37 AM WLS wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/30/2010 6:34 AM Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen schrieb: Boring! Installed and works. No excitement. Hah! Now I guess we just need to find you a release that provides more excitement... ;-) Robert Kaiser Be daring - use 2.0.9pre :-) Be more daring and use 2.1b1. WLS I am running it on a different computer. But not really putting it through its paces. Using 2.0.9pre on this one (main system). I have SM2.1b1, TB3.3a1pre Shredder (love that name), and FF4b6 on this PC, with different profiles for SM and FF. Now if I could only figure out to get the plugins I have already installed for SM 2.0.8 and FF 3.6.10 to work with the new versions I'd put them through their paces. I did it once before, but don't remember how. You need to download the .xpi file, unzip it, edit the install.rdf file to up the maximum version level for the app (SM or FF), then re-zip the .xpi file and install it. It may work or not. Did I say extensions? I'm sorry I meant plug-ins, like Java, Flash, etc Ooops! I read plugins but my brain thought extensions. Not sure where Linux stores plugins but in Windows I believe by default they're stored in the program installation folder in a sub-folder called plugins. Some are installed in other locations but SM scans for them automatically. To find them in your older installations set the preference plugin.expose_full_path to true then do Help - About Plugins in SM. In FF enter about:plugins in the location bar and hit Enter. Once you locate them you can copy them to the new installations. I've located them but I think I'm screwed because of the new plugin container feature, and may have to download and install each one for each browser. First I'm going to try using my FF 3.6.10 profile for FF 4 and see what happens, after I back it up of course. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Get Hotmail
David E. Ross wrote: My wife uses SeaMonkey 1.1.19. Her old PC does not have the capacity for Windows XP, so she still uses Windows 98. However, her PC is starting to get cranky; Can you narrow it down to the hardware or the software? (Tried to boot to a Linux CD?) so I think I might get her a new one before the end of the year. Maybe all you need to do is to dump M$ and install a proper OS. http://google.com/search?q=MEPIS+antiX+%22+Windows.98%22+-xp+-filetransitnum=20 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Revised questions Re: prefs.js / user.js problems
On 09/29/2010 07:04 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: ... Questions 1. I'm about to upgrade from Seamonkey 2.0.5. I wish to leave all of my existing profiles *UNTOUCHED*. I want my updated SeaMonkey to act as if it was first browser ever installed. HOW? NoOp straitened me out on this issue. Short answer - install to new directory *AND* create a new profile by launching with profile manager option. 2. Where are all the options in prefs.js / user.js documented? open From a recent thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org/msg13462.html [List of all preferences from pref.js] 3. Is there anything in prefs.js that cannot be forced to a preferred state by a line in user.js. open - I suspect this may be important as I do some abnormal things. Not that I'm aware of, but of course someone will come along and (hopefully) prove me wrong if otherwise. 4. Since I'm obviously out of date should I be learning about style sheets? If so, what? Can't help you there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Clearing private data -- do it now!
I recently visited an online site that accepts political contributions for a variety of candidates. I entered my credit card info to make a contribution, printed my receipt, and left. The next time I visited, SeaMonkey had all the credit card info stored and ready to go, which was really scary. I poked around and couldn't find any way to prohibit it from storing info entered in this field or at this site, so I ended up with the heavy-handed solution of purging ALL saved data, which will be a safe inconvenience. I've now disabled this dangerous feature (after ten minutes of searching for the checkbox in the prefs -- it was just as hard to find as last time), because a) It never warned me that it was saving credit card info; b) There seems to be no way to prevent it from saving credit card info -- it sees all form data as equally eligible. c) There seems to be no way to inspect or edit saved data, so I can't even be sure SeaMonkey really did purge the data. As far as I'm concerned, this is a major security hole that should be fixed as soon as possible. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Revised questions Re: prefs.js / user.js problems
NoOp wrote: On 09/29/2010 07:04 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: ... Questions 1. I'm about to upgrade from Seamonkey 2.0.5. I wish to leave all of my existing profiles *UNTOUCHED*. I want my updated SeaMonkey to act as if it was first browser ever installed. HOW? NoOp straitened me out on this issue. Short answer - install to new directory *AND* create a new profile by launching with profile manager option. 2. Where are all the options in prefs.js / user.js documented? open From a recent thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org/msg13462.html [List of all preferences from pref.js] That seems to be what I was looking for, thanks. 3. Is there anything in prefs.js that cannot be forced to a preferred state by a line in user.js. open - I suspect this may be important as I do some abnormal things. Not that I'm aware of, but of course someone will come along and (hopefully) prove me wrong if otherwise. 4. Since I'm obviously out of date should I be learning about style sheets? If so, what? Can't help you there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I recently visited an online site that accepts political contributions for a variety of candidates. I entered my credit card info to make a contribution, printed my receipt, and left. The next time I visited, The same contribution site? SeaMonkey had all the credit card info stored and ready to go, which was really scary. I poked around and couldn't find any way to prohibit it from storing info entered in this field or at this site, so I ended up with the heavy-handed solution of purging ALL saved data, which will be a safe inconvenience. I've now disabled this dangerous feature (after ten minutes of searching for the checkbox in the prefs -- it was just as hard to find as last time), because a) It never warned me that it was saving credit card info; It wasn't. It merely saves formfield data. It doesn't know it's a credit card. It's just text to the browser. b) There seems to be no way to prevent it from saving credit card info -- it sees all form data as equally eligible. Ah, you understand. Browsers don't save specific types of info. They save based on the name and ID of the form field(s). If, for example, that input field was named ccnumber the browser would save what you typed. If you went to an entirely different web site and there was a field there *also* named ccnumber, you card number would show up there as well. However, if at the next site the author used the field name of ccinfo you would *not* see your previously entered credit card number. In the source HTML, you will find code similar to this: input type=text id=ccnumber name=ccnumber size=16 But don't worry. Nobody can see that except you and whoever is sitting at your computer. The web site can't see it until you click the Submit button. c) There seems to be no way to inspect or edit saved data, so I can't even be sure SeaMonkey really did purge the data. You could check by revisiting the site and see if your data shows up on the form. As far as I'm concerned, this is a major security hole that should be fixed as soon as possible. If saving form data was removed, a lot of folks would be unhappy. It's not a security hole and the behaviour will not be altered. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!
If you use the Form History plug in, you can put the first, say, 10 or 12 digits of your CC numbers in the Clean Up list, and have any values saved that match 'em automatically cleared every time you exit SM. You won't have the _whole_ number in SM, and it won't be trying to pop it into forms accidentally. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: If you use the Form History plug in, you can put the first, say, 10 or 12 digits of your CC numbers in the Clean Up list, and have any values saved that match 'em automatically cleared every time you exit SM. You won't have the _whole_ number in SM, and it won't be trying to pop it into forms accidentally. -JW Sorry - make that the Form History Control _add-on_, available at http://www.formhistory.blogspot.com/ -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
If saving form data was removed, a lot of folks would be unhappy. It's
not a security hole and the behaviour will not be altered.
How about a *reasonable* alternative?
Make it user selectable?
Why force it on users when such is not at all necessary?
Phishing sites burn people every day, probably by the thousands,
why not make their lives more difficult?
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Re: Email problem
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net a écrit : I still can't find inbox folder. You need to make sure that you set up your OS to show hidden files or else you won't see your profile. Looks like the OP is on XP. http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_profile.php http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/win_fcab_show_file_extensions.mspx I found the inbox when I changed to show hidden files. They aren't marked read only. Can I reinstall Seamonkey to maybe fix the problem and not lose anything? Read that link above again regarding profiles. If you reinstall SM the profile is NOT touched. The program and profile (all your settings) are kept in two different locations. A reinstall does not affect your profile. What you might want to investigate is creating a new profile and then migrating your old info (email accounts, bookmarks, passwords etc) to the new profile. Just be careful to not do a wholesale migration. If you do, you'll simply transfer any problems from the old to the new. The same page above has some links to info on this: http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_profile.php -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Music, I suppose, will be the thing that sustains me when I'm too old for sex, and not quite ready to meet God. - Dolly Parton ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: If saving form data was removed, a lot of folks would be unhappy. It's not a security hole and the behaviour will not be altered. How about a *reasonable* alternative? Make it user selectable? Why force it on users when such is not at all necessary? Phishing sites burn people every day, probably by the thousands, why not make their lives more difficult? The reasonable alternative, IMO, would be to store the information on your machine in an encrypted fashion similar to Password Manager and not allow it to be invoked unless the user does so for each site that presents a form - this could be keyed to Master Password entry and/or the user beginning to fill out the form. Personally, I would ask for the Master each time a Form page is to be filled - that would also give the user time to look to see that the data is being entered using a secure site...but that's just my pref... I've never used the Forms Data feature in any SM release, and likely never will...but only for the reason that I could/can never tell if the information it contains was/is stored using encryption. If I encryption were employed I would have definitely used it - it's convenient, and I can fully sympathize with folks that miss it. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
