Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2
On 11-08-16 1:46 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: That's not what you originally said. You said with 2.3 almost here, bugs with 2.1 or 2.2 or upgrade there-to will not be addressed. Just because there are UI changes, doesn't mean bugs in previous versions are not addressed. Master Ilias, I'm not sure what you're trying to communicate by referring to me as Master Ilias, but if it's a sarcastic insult, that kind of treatment is not allowed. See http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html. Remember that we're all people. Be nice. I wrote bugs with 2.1 or 2.2 *or upgrade there-to* ... So master Ilias, you claim that problems with upgrading from say SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.2 will be addressed in a later/future SM release? Would you care to explain how you expect that to work? Also do you claim to dispute what I write in Any person who is on say SM 2.2 ... its own basket of fresh bugs. If there's a bug regard to updating from from 2.0.x to 2.2 that doesn't exist when updating from 2.0.x to 2.3, then I think the bug is no longer valid, because the update mechanism (I think) will bypass 2.2 after 2.3 is released (i.e. 2.0.x user will be offered 2.3). Justin, is that right? -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2
Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-16 1:46 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: That's not what you originally said. You said with 2.3 almost here, bugs with 2.1 or 2.2 or upgrade there-to will not be addressed. Just because there are UI changes, doesn't mean bugs in previous versions are not addressed. Master Ilias, I'm not sure what you're trying to communicate by referring to me as Master Ilias, but if it's a sarcastic insult, that kind of treatment is not allowed. See http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html. Remember that we're all people. Be nice. Chris, I notice that you find fault with Rostyslaw Lewyckyj's use of Master Ilias (which I personally read as indicating great respect, as in Kitagawa-sama v. Kitagawa-san), yet allow to pass without comment an earlier, clearly sarcastic, response : [an earlier contributor] wrote: Feel free to write the code, as you already know how it works and how stupid the people implementing the current system were. I am sure it is not your aim, but to people new to the list such as myself, this would appear to indicate either bias or favouritism in your response, just as did your earlier deletion of a message from Phillip M. Jones simply because you viewed its contents as containing misinformation (Firefox running itself into the ground, and Mozilla demanding the SeaMonkey council what to do.). Phillip may well have been misinformed, but any reasonable person reading his contribution would have understood immediately that the views stated were his personal opinion and not asserted as established facts. Philip Taylor. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.2 online job application form problems
On 8/15/2011 11:57 PM MCBastos submitted the following: Interviewed by CNN on 16/08/2011 00:08, PhillipJones told the world: Tom S. wrote: Hi all, Why does SeaMonkey have problems with filling out online job application forms nearly all of the time? I almost always have to switch the rendering engine (IE) to show the form correctly and submit the information. The forms on most jobs websites will not work with SeaMonkey. It becomes very frustrating, trying to fill out these forms and they just won't work right. Is there some sort of conspiracy to force people to use IE, in order to fill out these forms? Or is there something wrong with SeaMonkey and the way it shows them? Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 Blame Adobe on that one. they use to have the adobe PDF viewer Plugin. Problem is when Mac went to OSX and came out Safari,they made the plug-in available for Web-kit, not Gecko. and despite protest from myself and thousands of other that don't use Safari. All adobe does is give us gecko product users the one finger salute. Supposedly Mozilla is working on built in code to display PDF natively. I'm hoping if they do so they add support for filling out forms. That's one of the main things you need view PDF online for anyway. When we were using OS9 (c++, objective-C) The adobe Plugin worked for Mac as well as PC And the electronics Association I was part of built PDF online forms, for use with the association. Since the OP is using Windows XP, I don't think this explanation applies in this exact form. Adobe does keep supplying plugins for non-IE browsers in Windows. With that said, however... it IS possible that the OP is missing the Adobe Reader plugin in Seamonkey -- the installer for Adobe Reader detects Firefox (and, I think, Opera) automatically, but not Seamonkey or other less-common browsers. A couple months ago I gave somebody instructions to manually install this plugin, but it was for Vista/Win7... let me see if I can adapt it to XP... ...yes, here it is: Just copy nppdf32.dll from: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\Browser\ to your Seamonkey plugins browser (usually C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins ) Or, like me, you could use a free pdf program - Foxit Reader - it will run in your browser window, allow form filling, and text insertion (they call it 'typewriter' in the menu). And it's smaller than Adobe Reader. -- Ed http://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1262! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0. That seems to have worked so far - thanks. I spoke too soon - showing 3.6 works for Hotmail, but now Yahoo is asking me to upgrade. How do I show both 3.0 and 3.6 in about:config? But isn't any FF 3.x now passe. You must upgrade with the Joneses. :-) :-| :-( And anyway this is a SeaMonkey discussion group. :-\ Yes, Rostyslaw, this is a SeaMonkey discussion group, which is why op Tom is asking, in effect, what value he should put in his Browser Build Identifier string to make both Yahoo and Hotmail work correctly. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb: [an earlier contributor] wrote: Feel free to write the code, as you already know how it works and how stupid the people implementing the current system were. And if he insulted anyone with that, he insulted himself, among others. I hope that is not completely forbidden. I know how stupid people think I am. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can not add funds to T-Mobile prepaid cell phone account
On 8/15/2011 11:26 AM, Lemuel Johnson wrote: flyguy wrote: Using SM 2.0.14 and SM 2.2, I am unable to add funds to my prepaid T-Mobile account. I am able to add funds using IE 7. Here's what happens with SM: I go to t-mobile.com and I log into my account; it shows me a page that includes Fund your account. I click on that; it shows me a page that includes Credit/Debit account. I click on that; it shows me a page with the current fund balance and a number of options for dollars and amount of time. After 2 seconds, that page is replaced by a Welcome back! log in page. The last page cited, where you select the desired refill value does not disappear after two seconds for me. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 In these cases it's advised to access the page using a new profile with no extensions or add-ins installed to help narrow the source of the problem. I used two different computers for the tests, one running SM 2.2 (my computer, used heavily for many things, with multiple email and news accounts), one running 2.0.14 (my wife's computer, used lightly for email and browsing - one email account). I'm not sure what you mean by extensions, but they do have add-ons... My computer reports these add-ons: DOM, Javascript debugger, Fireform, and Lightning calendar. Disabling Fireform did not affect the t-mobile actions. Her computer reports these add-ons: DOM, Javascript debugger, Fireform. It acts the same way, even without Lightning. So, I suspect it's not the add-ons causing it. Could a plugin cause this kind of problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2
Chris Ilias wrote: I wrote bugs with 2.1 or 2.2 *or upgrade there-to* ... So master Ilias, you claim that problems with upgrading from say SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.2 will be addressed in a later/future SM release? Would you care to explain how you expect that to work? Also do you claim to dispute what I write in Any person who is on say SM 2.2 ... its own basket of fresh bugs. If there's a bug regard to updating from from 2.0.x to 2.2 that doesn't exist when updating from 2.0.x to 2.3, then I think the bug is no longer valid, because the update mechanism (I think) will bypass 2.2 after 2.3 is released (i.e. 2.0.x user will be offered 2.3). Justin, is that right? There are two things at play here. 1) Bugs that exist in 2.2 may (and many are) be fixed in SeaMonkey 2.3 2) Bugs that exist only from upgrading to 2.2 and will not be fixed magically when you migrate 2.2-2.3 The latter is what I'll address since it was your specific Question. At present we don't have a codepath setup to upgrade users from 2.0 to 2.3, but we are close. I expect within the next 2 weeks I'll have that upgrade available. In the mean time, 2.0 will still be upgraded to 2.2 and then to 2.3. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
No Auto Upgrade Notice
Currently on SM 2.0.14, XP SP3. I've never received an upgrade notice to any of the 2.x series (always got notices or upgrades before). My wife has received all of them. Some differences between us: she's on Vista, uses the Classic Firefox theme, and has two plugins I don't have--Canon Image Gateway and Windows Presentation Foundation. I Use the Seamonkey Modern theme, and have plugins she doesn't (npffadi, associated with Zone Alarm security suite), and several for Quick Time and Real Player. Any thoughts as to why she gets the upgrade notices but I don't? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: In the mean time, 2.0 will still be upgraded to 2.2 and then to 2.3. In one continuous process, or with separate user requests? Larry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Auto Upgrade Notice
Larry a écrit : Currently on SM 2.0.14, XP SP3. I've never received an upgrade notice to any of the 2.x series (always got notices or upgrades before). My wife has received all of them. I had the same thing happen to me. When I checked the upgrade notice section of the Preferences, I noticed that for some reason, the SM upgrade box was unchecked, whereas it previously was and I didn't change it. I don't know when that happened, but it might be something you'd want to look into. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Auto Upgrade Notice
S. Beaulieu wrote: Larry a écrit : Currently on SM 2.0.14, XP SP3. I've never received an upgrade notice to any of the 2.x series (always got notices or upgrades before). My wife has received all of them. I had the same thing happen to me. When I checked the upgrade notice section of the Preferences, I noticed that for some reason, the SM upgrade box was unchecked, whereas it previously was and I didn't change it. I don't know when that happened, but it might be something you'd want to look into. S. Hmmm . . . Excellent suggestion. So, I checked, and of course it was not checked. I hadn't looked at it, as it was always checked over the years. We'll see if that changes things. Now feeling a bit stupid, as I usually check preferences before asking questions. Well, obviously not this time. Thanks for the suggestion. Larry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Solved] Re: SM 2.3 +Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric
On 08/15/2011 05:34 PM, NoOp wrote: I'm running some tests on Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric and downloaded the 64bit version of 2.3: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.3b3 ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.3b3/contrib/seamonkey-2.3b3.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 Extracted as usual to a home folder and attempted to run. Result is: oneiric@oneiric:~/seamonkey/seamonkey$ ./seamonkey ./seamonkey-bin: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string Anyone else experience the same? Duh... I just realized that I am running the 32-bit Oneiric rather than the 64-bit due to the fact that Oneiric is running in VirtualBox (Win7 64-bit is the host) rather than in it's own partition: $ uname -a Linux oneiric 3.0.0-8-generic #11-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 12 20:20:03 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux That is why the 32-bit version of SeaMonkey is working (albeit with the 'failed to create drawable' messages). Sorry for all the noise... PEBKAC ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.2 online job application form problems
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 16/08/2011 00:08, PhillipJones told the world: Tom S. wrote: Hi all, Why does SeaMonkey have problems with filling out online job application forms nearly all of the time? I almost always have to switch the rendering engine (IE) to show the form correctly and submit the information. The forms on most jobs websites will not work with SeaMonkey. It becomes very frustrating, trying to fill out these forms and they just won't work right. Is there some sort of conspiracy to force people to use IE, in order to fill out these forms? Or is there something wrong with SeaMonkey and the way it shows them? Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 Blame Adobe on that one. they use to have the adobe PDF viewer Plugin. Problem is when Mac went to OSX and came out Safari,they made the plug-in available for Web-kit, not Gecko. and despite protest from myself and thousands of other that don't use Safari. All adobe does is give us gecko product users the one finger salute. Supposedly Mozilla is working on built in code to display PDF natively. I'm hoping if they do so they add support for filling out forms. That's one of the main things you need view PDF online for anyway. When we were using OS9 (c++, objective-C) The adobe Plugin worked for Mac as well as PC And the electronics Association I was part of built PDF online forms, for use with the association. Since the OP is using Windows XP, I don't think this explanation applies in this exact form. Adobe does keep supplying plugins for non-IE browsers in Windows. With that said, however... it IS possible that the OP is missing the Adobe Reader plugin in Seamonkey -- the installer for Adobe Reader detects Firefox (and, I think, Opera) automatically, but not Seamonkey or other less-common browsers. A couple months ago I gave somebody instructions to manually install this plugin, but it was for Vista/Win7... let me see if I can adapt it to XP... ...yes, here it is: Just copy nppdf32.dll from: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\Browser\ to your Seamonkey plugins browser (usually C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins ) Thanks, but sorry, I already have that file in my plugins folder. It seems to be more like a javascript problem on these forms. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Auto Upgrade Notice
Larry wrote: S. Beaulieu wrote: Larry a écrit : Currently on SM 2.0.14, XP SP3. I've never received an upgrade notice to any of the 2.x series (always got notices or upgrades before). My wife has received all of them. I had the same thing happen to me. When I checked the upgrade notice section of the Preferences, I noticed that for some reason, the SM upgrade box was unchecked, whereas it previously was and I didn't change it. I don't know when that happened, but it might be something you'd want to look into. S. Hmmm . . . Excellent suggestion. So, I checked, and of course it was not checked. I hadn't looked at it, as it was always checked over the years. We'll see if that changes things. Now feeling a bit stupid, as I usually check preferences before asking questions. Well, obviously not this time. Thanks for the suggestion. Please let us know, within the next few days if this got you upgraded. If not I have thoughts on how to look into the update server side of things to check on things. (among other things) But that is more work anyway :-) -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2
Larry wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: In the mean time, 2.0 will still be upgraded to 2.2 and then to 2.3. In one continuous process, or with separate user requests? Separate user requests, sadly. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2.2 online job application form problems
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 16/08/2011 00:08, PhillipJones told the world: Tom S. wrote: Hi all, Why does SeaMonkey have problems with filling out online job application forms nearly all of the time? I almost always have to switch the rendering engine (IE) to show the form correctly and submit the information. The forms on most jobs websites will not work with SeaMonkey. It becomes very frustrating, trying to fill out these forms and they just won't work right. Is there some sort of conspiracy to force people to use IE, in order to fill out these forms? Or is there something wrong with SeaMonkey and the way it shows them? Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 Blame Adobe on that one. they use to have the adobe PDF viewer Plugin. Problem is when Mac went to OSX and came out Safari,they made the plug-in available for Web-kit, not Gecko. and despite protest from myself and thousands of other that don't use Safari. All adobe does is give us gecko product users the one finger salute. Supposedly Mozilla is working on built in code to display PDF natively. I'm hoping if they do so they add support for filling out forms. That's one of the main things you need view PDF online for anyway. When we were using OS9 (c++, objective-C) The adobe Plugin worked for Mac as well as PC And the electronics Association I was part of built PDF online forms, for use with the association. Since the OP is using Windows XP, I don't think this explanation applies in this exact form. Adobe does keep supplying plugins for non-IE browsers in Windows. With that said, however... it IS possible that the OP is missing the Adobe Reader plugin in Seamonkey -- the installer for Adobe Reader detects Firefox (and, I think, Opera) automatically, but not Seamonkey or other less-common browsers. A couple months ago I gave somebody instructions to manually install this plugin, but it was for Vista/Win7... let me see if I can adapt it to XP... ...yes, here it is: Just copy nppdf32.dll from: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\Browser\ to your Seamonkey plugins browser (usually C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins ) On Mac Internet Plugins are installed in a Directory in Main Library Internet Plugins and applies to all web Browsers works with SM, FF, Camino, Aurora, OmniWeb, Opera, iCab, and Safari at least it supposed to. However, Adobe has decided not to support Gecko on Mac. Now Web-kit Safari and others works fine. To use PDF, on Gecko I have to use a Plugin called PDFBrowser Plugin by Schubert of Germany. Problem is it doesn't do FDF and it doesn't do Forms. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14
Daniel wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 17:48, Tom Pamin told the world: Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14? Try Firefox/3.6 instead of Firefox/3.0. That seems to have worked so far - thanks. I spoke too soon - showing 3.6 works for Hotmail, but now Yahoo is asking me to upgrade. How do I show both 3.0 and 3.6 in about:config? But isn't any FF 3.x now passe. You must upgrade with the Joneses. :-) :-| :-( And anyway this is a SeaMonkey discussion group. :-\ Yes, Rostyslaw, this is a SeaMonkey discussion group, which is why op Tom is asking, in effect, what value he should put in his Browser Build Identifier string to make both Yahoo and Hotmail work correctly. This particular Jones is not impressed with upgrades. :-) -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can not add funds to T-Mobile prepaid cell phone account
flyguy wrote: On 8/15/2011 11:26 AM, Lemuel Johnson wrote: My computer reports these add-ons: DOM, Javascript debugger, Fireform, and Lightning calendar. Disabling Fireform did not affect the t-mobile actions. Her computer reports these add-ons: DOM, Javascript debugger, Fireform. It acts the same way, even without Lightning. So, I suspect it's not the add-ons causing it. Could a plugin cause this kind of problem? Accessing the site using a new profile would answer that question. lj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Management Tips
Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:28:36 +0200, /Jens Hatlak/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: 1. Secure Login https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/secure-login/ It would be great if you could get this extension running with SM completely and then contact the author. If he doesn't want to incorporate the changes into his version, I'm sure Philip Chee would be glad to put your mod on his site (license it GPL, so should be OK). Thanks to Philip Chee, a SeaMonkey 2+ compatible version is now hosted on the xSidebar site: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#securelogin Besides SeaMonkey compatibility, this versions includes some more changes over the official 0.9.8 version: * Add Macedonian locale from the last mozdev.org version 0.9.3.1 http://securelogin.mozdev.org/changelog.html#v0.9.3.1 * Fallback to Core-DOM for accessing HTML forms Mozilla Bug 230214 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230214 * Recognize HTML5 input types for username Catch up with the toolkit LoginManager: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/passwordmgr/nsLoginManager.js#727 * Add basic support for username only forms I hope the official Secure Login maintainers will get back in touch for publishing an official SeaMonkey compatible version, sooner or later. This extension is a vastly enhanced replacement for the manual fill custom button I've suggested previously in this group, see Password Manager workaround thread: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/7c5d250b9c133ff3 -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
I have clicked the links not starting bp- The new links are bp-8a2cfa19-a5f4-41de-92e4-40e712110813 13/08/2011 21:28 bp-08fc5f47-fcce-4b4e-9342-0f1ab2110816 12/08/2011 22:36 bp-1dcff122-2d1e-41d4-ab12-ff3e92110816 12/08/2011 22:36 bp-968606ba-2fd1-4200-96c3-8992f2110816 24/07/2011 20:55 bp-564f453b-ca1a-4ad4-a13c-ceea02110816 24/07/2011 20:55 bp-ac83048c-4b33-4f9a-a7ac-de3a82110724 24/07/2011 19:55 bp-c3621fac-54d0-4355-8843-1f9892110724 24/07/2011 19:48 bp-29d154a2-a90b-4272-8029-74da02110724 24/07/2011 19:44 bp-ed41065e-dbd0-4c93-ae7a-4df052110722 22/07/2011 21:30 bp-27d32dc7-4e41-4d1e-b1f1-138a72110722 22/07/2011 21:28 James Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-15 4:07 PM, James Osbourn wrote: The crash reports that I have listed are as follows: bp-8a2cfa19-a5f4-41de-92e4-40e712110813 13/08/2011 21:28 964e755a-723b-433d-8dcb-c808463816bb 12/08/2011 22:36 7db5eb6d-ed18-47d7-a34e-301f40ae4f45 12/08/2011 22:36 a9b8e7ab-43ab-4605-ae19-240b0ac87f71 24/07/2011 20:55 1f3b2544-3545-4be9-aac7-80fd5aea1fe0 24/07/2011 20:55 bp-ac83048c-4b33-4f9a-a7ac-de3a82110724 24/07/2011 19:55 bp-c3621fac-54d0-4355-8843-1f9892110724 24/07/2011 19:48 bp-29d154a2-a90b-4272-8029-74da02110724 24/07/2011 19:44 bp-ed41065e-dbd0-4c93-ae7a-4df052110722 22/07/2011 21:30 bp-27d32dc7-4e41-4d1e-b1f1-138a72110722 22/07/2011 21:28 Could you do us a favour and go back to about:crashes, and click on 3rd, 4th, and 5th items in the list, so they begin with bp-. We can't access those crash reports until you click on them. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
I updated my flash to the latest version and also tried disabling and both times password manager would crash as before. James Jens Hatlak wrote: James Osbourn wrote: The crash reports that I have listed are as follows: bp-8a2cfa19-a5f4-41de-92e4-40e712110813 13/08/2011 21:28 Maybe a Flash crash (AFAICS IPC is involved). Try disabling Flash (about:addons, Plugins, Shockwave Flash, Disable). HTH Jens ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
Should of said the new crash logs are bp-a575039f-3546-490e-9779-e50d22110816 16/08/2011 20:35 bp-fdbe74b4-00ae-4153-9021-39fef2110816 16/08/2011 20:33 bp-4570b718-fe17-49ce-9f61-8e4f42110816 16/08/2011 20:32 James James Osbourn wrote: I updated my flash to the latest version and also tried disabling and both times password manager would crash as before. James Jens Hatlak wrote: James Osbourn wrote: The crash reports that I have listed are as follows: bp-8a2cfa19-a5f4-41de-92e4-40e712110813 13/08/2011 21:28 Maybe a Flash crash (AFAICS IPC is involved). Try disabling Flash (about:addons, Plugins, Shockwave Flash, Disable). HTH Jens ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can not add funds to T-Mobile prepaid cell phone account
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:31:54 -0700, in message udsdnclllixzxdttnz2dnuvz_t-dn...@mozilla.org flyguy wrote: Using SM 2.0.14 and SM 2.2, I am unable to add funds to my prepaid T-Mobile account. I am able to add funds using IE 7. Here's what happens with SM: I go to t-mobile.com and I log into my account; it shows me a page that includes Fund your account. I click on that; it shows me a page that includes Credit/Debit account. I click on that; it shows me a page with the current fund balance and a number of options for dollars and amount of time. After 2 seconds, that page is replaced by a Welcome back! log in page. I log in, and the page with Fund your account appears, and the cycle is repeated with no apparent end in sight. With IE 7, everything goes as expected, and I was able to add my funds to my account without any problem. Last year, I was able to this with whatever SM was current at the time. I have not experienced this behavior with any other website. So - bad web page? A clever SM setting I am missing? Is there a workaround? I had a similar problem with Firefox, until I allowed third-party cookies. The credit card verification is done by a third party, and they use cookies to manage the progress through adding funds. -- Kind regards Ralph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
On 11-08-16 3:29 PM, James Osbourn wrote: I have clicked the links not starting bp- The new links are bp-8a2cfa19-a5f4-41de-92e4-40e712110813 13/08/2011 21:28 bp-08fc5f47-fcce-4b4e-9342-0f1ab2110816 12/08/2011 22:36 bp-1dcff122-2d1e-41d4-ab12-ff3e92110816 12/08/2011 22:36 bp-968606ba-2fd1-4200-96c3-8992f2110816 24/07/2011 20:55 bp-564f453b-ca1a-4ad4-a13c-ceea02110816 24/07/2011 20:55 bp-ac83048c-4b33-4f9a-a7ac-de3a82110724 24/07/2011 19:55 bp-c3621fac-54d0-4355-8843-1f9892110724 24/07/2011 19:48 bp-29d154a2-a90b-4272-8029-74da02110724 24/07/2011 19:44 bp-ed41065e-dbd0-4c93-ae7a-4df052110722 22/07/2011 21:30 bp-27d32dc7-4e41-4d1e-b1f1-138a72110722 22/07/2011 21:28 There are different plugins mentioned in those. One talks about printing a PDF file, while another *may* refer to quicktime. If you have any plugins installed, go to http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/, to make sure they are up to date, then go to Tools--Add-ons_Manager, select the Plugins panel, and disable any plugins you don't use. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.3 Beta 3 Release -- New Features and Fixes
The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.2: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.2 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: Added support for the latest draft version of WebSockets with a prefixed API Added support for EventSource / server-sent events Added support for window.matchMedia Official Support for OS X Lion For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.3, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.3 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-16 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic] -- Justin Wood (Callek) SeaMonkey Council member, and Release Engineer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.3 Beta 3 Release -- New Features and Fixes
On 8/16/2011 5:38 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.2: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.2 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: Added support for the latest draft version of WebSockets with a prefixed API Added support for EventSource / server-sent events Added support for window.matchMedia Official Support for OS X Lion For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.3, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.3 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-16 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic] I think I found a bug in my process, I accidentally sent this draft instead of editing it :( -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.3 Release -- New Features and Fixes
The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.3: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.3 is available in 24 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: Added support for the latest draft version of WebSockets with a prefixed API Added support for EventSource / server-sent events Added support for window.matchMedia Official Support for OS X Lion For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.3, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.3 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-16 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic] -- Justin Wood (Callek) SeaMonkey Council member, and Release Engineer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Ghost Plug-In
Following advice in another thread, I checked my PIs with the Mozilla Plug-In Checker (thank you, Chris). Found three to update, did all three (I thought), but one keeps coming back. Digging further, it's an older version of Shockwave Flash Player. The latest version is installed, but the checker keeps finding the older one, which apparently wasn't replaced. (The Secunia Software Inspector also finds the same one.) Located the older version, tried to delete it, and get told No, it's in use by some other program. Everything else is closed except the System 32 list. (C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10i.ocx, might be 10l or 1) Suggestions as to how to get rid of it? Or should I just ignore it? Larry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Maybe a Flash crash (AFAICS IPC is involved). Try disabling Flash (about:addons, Plugins, Shockwave Flash, Disable). Did I miss something? I thought the new plugins container was supposed to isolate plugins and prevent them from crashing SM or its other modules? Right, but a crash can happen during communication between the container and the main application. That communication is called IPC (inter-process communication), which is mentioned in the crash reports. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.2: Personal Toolbar folder does not import
Jay O'Brien wrote: I went from 2.0.14 to 2.2. I imported bookmarks.html. The included Personal Toolbar folder which populates the toolbar does not import, I had to rebuild it. I had the same issue (also solved it by moving the stuff myself) but thought it might be limited to my rather non-standard setup (I switched my profile back and forth between en-US and de-DE in the past and also applied lots of customizations over time). If this is indeed more common we should at least verify under which circumstances it happens and whether the same applies to upgrading Firefox from a pre-Places version to, say, FF5. Then either file/fix a bug or at least add it to the Known Issues / FAQ. After doing this, I exported the bookmarks to bookmarks.html and looked at that in the browser. I see that what populates the toolbar is now the Bookmarks Toolbar. Good to know. I suggest that if a bookmarks.html file is imported, that the Personal Toolbar should not be ignored. Heh, yes, bugs should be fixed. ;-) Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Firefox to Eliminate Version Numbers from [Help About]
David E. Ross wrote: See bug #678775 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678775. Is this something that will also be done in SeaMonkey? I don't think so. I saw/heard of no such plans (for SM). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks gone
PhillipJones wrote: From my understanding of what I have been reading, the developers have no idea how to fix this problem of not converting bookmarks This is only true if by not converting bookmarks you mean the automatic conversion (which should happen but sometimes doesn't). AFAIK the manual process works (it worked for me!), but the Personal Toolbar folder might not be converted into the Bookmarks Toolbar folder correctly. Again, that happened to me, too. See the 2.2: Personal Toolbar folder does not import thread. In one of your screen shots I can see that your Bookmarks Toolbar folder is empty if it's selected in the Bookmarks Manager. What I do not see from the screen shot if there are indeed no bookmarks at all. For that you'd have to select and possibly expand the Bookmarks Menu folder. Maybe the Personal Toolbar folder is to be found below that. If it is, just move its contents to the Bookmarks Toolbar folder and celebrate (again, like I did). and it can strike anytime with no warning. Not anytime, only upon upgrading or importing bookmarks.html manually. This should be the top number one bug to be fixed. Certainly not, at least if there is an easy workaround. Look at the Changes page of the SM 2.3 release notes. I consider the vast majority of bugfixes listed there more important than fixing a bug that has an easy workaround (note: provided that this statement is true, as I believe). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can not add funds to T-Mobile prepaid cell phone account
On 8/16/2011 1:01 PM, Ralph Fox wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:31:54 -0700, in messageudsdnclllixzxdttnz2dnuvz_t-dn...@mozilla.org flyguy wrote: Using SM 2.0.14 and SM 2.2, I am unable to add funds to my prepaid T-Mobile account. I am able to add funds using IE 7. Here's what happens with SM: I go to t-mobile.com and I log into my account; it shows me a page that includes Fund your account. I click on that; it shows me a page that includes Credit/Debit account. I click on that; it shows me a page with the current fund balance and a number of options for dollars and amount of time. After 2 seconds, that page is replaced by a Welcome back! log in page. I log in, and the page with Fund your account appears, and the cycle is repeated with no apparent end in sight. With IE 7, everything goes as expected, and I was able to add my funds to my account without any problem. Last year, I was able to this with whatever SM was current at the time. I have not experienced this behavior with any other website. So - bad web page? A clever SM setting I am missing? Is there a workaround? I had a similar problem with Firefox, until I allowed third-party cookies. The credit card verification is done by a third party, and they use cookies to manage the progress through adding funds. *BINGO!* I do have my preferences set to cookies from originating site only, so it was A clever SM setting I am missing. Setting the t-mobile page with Tools/Cookie Manager/Allow session cookies from this website allowed the page to work. Thank you! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: new 2.3
On 2011-08-08 10:17, sean nathan bean wrote: Pat Connors sent me the following:: Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't know what to do. I like the version I am using. I am using Windows 7 which seems to complicate all new program updates. Just wondering how others using Win 7 have managed with the new update. my two cents: SeaMonkey 2.1 and 2.2 have been virtually flawless...there may have been a few niggling details which irked me personally... but none rose to the level of making me decide to remain in the insecure 2.0.x series... Sorry to disagree with you, but I found 2.1 and 2.2 to be virtually useless because they were so badly flawed. Add the irreversible database changes to this and I'm not even going to try 2.3. I am very sad that SeaMonkey has chosen to follow on with the FireFox release program (I understand that SM is inextricably tied to FF) rather than just maintaining the 2.0 tree. I (and many others) believe the FF 6-week release cycle is an extremely bad idea and I have no intention of going that route. Despite being a Netscape/Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey user for almost 20 years, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ditch Mozilla in all its forms and go a different direction. Since I have a large collection of tools I've developed for hacking various things about Mozilla, I do not do this lightly. To put it bluntly, I am not interested in a SeaMonkey that is nothing more than FireFox and Thunderbird launched simultaneously -- if SM can't offer something other than this, there's no reason for it to exist. For me, it is far more important that I have something that is stable and has a stable database format that I can develop my own tools for than it is to support the latest eye-candy. The database format for bookmarks and mail has been almost unchanged for that entire 20 years -- until now. I haven't decided which browser+email I will be switching to since considerable research will be required, but it has become sadly obvious to me that it is necessary to change. Unless, that is, someone is willing to fork SeaMonkey at the 2.0.14 level and maintain it strictly with security bug fixes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Screen showing add-ons
Hi guys. Have SM 2.0.14 and Windows 7. Does a screen listing add-ons, etc., really have to open every time I turn on SM? Thanks - Ken (in Oz) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks gone
Jens Hatlak wrote: PhillipJones wrote: From my understanding of what I have been reading, the developers have no idea how to fix this problem of not converting bookmarks This is only true if by not converting bookmarks you mean the automatic conversion (which should happen but sometimes doesn't). AFAIK the manual process works (it worked for me!), but the Personal Toolbar folder might not be converted into the Bookmarks Toolbar folder correctly. Again, that happened to me, too. See the 2.2: Personal Toolbar folder does not import thread. In one of your screen shots I can see that your Bookmarks Toolbar folder is empty if it's selected in the Bookmarks Manager. What I do not see from the screen shot if there are indeed no bookmarks at all. For that you'd have to select and possibly expand the Bookmarks Menu folder. Maybe the Personal Toolbar folder is to be found below that. If it is, just move its contents to the Bookmarks Toolbar folder and celebrate (again, like I did). and it can strike anytime with no warning. Not anytime, only upon upgrading or importing bookmarks.html manually. This should be the top number one bug to be fixed. Certainly not, at least if there is an easy workaround. Look at the Changes page of the SM 2.3 release notes. I consider the vast majority of bugfixes listed there more important than fixing a bug that has an easy workaround (note: provided that this statement is true, as I believe). HTH Jens I removed the bookmarks items from the Profile for the 2.5.1 a install. then I copied from the profile for my 2.0.14 install. Last night I had run updater for 2.5.1 and it did update. So moved my copies over. This time the conversion took. However, I had to open the brought over Personal Bookmarks Folder and drop it on the new personal Tool Bar folder icon one at a time. Still no PDF. though. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.0.14 Massage Filters
Where and what is the Message filter database called Mine has suddenly quit showing email address so I can no longer add filters. I'd like to copy the one I have in my profile for 2.5.1 and see if I could get it working. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Ghost Plug-In
Interviewed by CNN on 16/08/2011 18:56, Larry told the world: Following advice in another thread, I checked my PIs with the Mozilla Plug-In Checker (thank you, Chris). Found three to update, did all three (I thought), but one keeps coming back. Digging further, it's an older version of Shockwave Flash Player. The latest version is installed, but the checker keeps finding the older one, which apparently wasn't replaced. (The Secunia Software Inspector also finds the same one.) Located the older version, tried to delete it, and get told No, it's in use by some other program. Everything else is closed except the System 32 list. (C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10i.ocx, might be 10l or 1) Suggestions as to how to get rid of it? Or should I just ignore it? Ah, Flash... for some reason, Macromedia/Adobe decided to place the entire Flash folder under restricted permissions. Basically, not even administrators are allowed to delete stuff there -- only the System pseudo-user. The regular way to reset those permissions is a bit cumbersome; it involves seizing ownership of the folder at the same time as giving yourself full permissions. Be thankful you are on XP; there's a shortcut to reset permissions in XP that was removed on Vista (probably for security reasons). Well, it work on XP Pro; I never tested it on XP Home, it might not work there. Well, procedure... let's go: 1. Close ALL your browser windows. Yes, including Internet Explorer. 2. Uninstall all your Flash plugins and ActiveX. 3. Create a blank folder inside C:\Windows\System32. 4. Here's the trick: select BOTH the Macromed and New Folder created above at the same time (you have to do it in the file pane, not on the Tree pane) 5. Right-click on one of them, choose Properties and open the Security tab. XP will notice that the two folders have different permissions and offer to reset BOTH folders to default permissions. Now you should have normal admin access to the Macromed folder. Try to delete it. If you can't, you may have to repeat the process inside Macromed to reset permissions on the Flash folder. If you still cannot delete it... try manually giving yourself full rights to the folder and forcing it to apply it to all subfolders and files. There are plenty tutorials around the Internet on how to do that. If you are on XP Home, though, you might need to reboot on Safe Mode. I believe the Security tab is hidden in normal mode. Well, anyway... after you finally get rid of the offending file, you may reinstall Flash plugin (and, if you want to, Flash ActiveX too.) -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my HAL 9000. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: password manager keeps crashing
Jens Hatlak wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Maybe a Flash crash (AFAICS IPC is involved). Try disabling Flash (about:addons, Plugins, Shockwave Flash, Disable). Did I miss something? I thought the new plugins container was supposed to isolate plugins and prevent them from crashing SM or its other modules? Right, but a crash can happen during communication between the container and the main application. That communication is called IPC (inter-process communication), which is mentioned in the crash reports. HTH A little. If a faulty plugin can crash the main app by talking to it, it's not isolated and the container isn't doing what it's advertised to do. The whole point of the exercise was to prevent a faulty plugin from taking down SeaMonkey. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.3 Beta 3 Release -- New Features and Fixes
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/16/2011 5:38 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.2: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.2 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: Added support for the latest draft version of WebSockets with a prefixed API Added support for EventSource / server-sent events Added support for window.matchMedia Official Support for OS X Lion For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.3, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.3 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-16 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic] I think I found a bug in my process, I accidentally sent this draft instead of editing it :( That's Ok Justin. Not to worry. After all 2.4 is close behind and you can schedule the bug to be fixed in a future release. :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: new 2.3
A.Nonny Mouse wrote: On 2011-08-08 10:17, sean nathan bean wrote: Pat Connors sent me the following:: Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't know what to do. I like the version I am using. I am using Windows 7 which seems to complicate all new program updates. Just wondering how others using Win 7 have managed with the new update. my two cents: SeaMonkey 2.1 and 2.2 have been virtually flawless...there may have been a few niggling details which irked me personally... but none rose to the level of making me decide to remain in the insecure 2.0.x series... Sorry to disagree with you, but I found 2.1 and 2.2 to be virtually useless because they were so badly flawed. Add the irreversible database changes to this and I'm not even going to try 2.3. I am very sad that SeaMonkey has chosen to follow on with the FireFox release program (I understand that SM is inextricably tied to FF) rather than just maintaining the 2.0 tree. I (and many others) believe the FF 6-week release cycle is an extremely bad idea and I have no intention of going that route. Despite being a Netscape/Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey user for almost 20 years, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ditch Mozilla in all its forms and go a different direction. Since I have a large collection of tools I've developed for hacking various things about Mozilla, I do not do this lightly. To put it bluntly, I am not interested in a SeaMonkey that is nothing more than FireFox and Thunderbird launched simultaneously -- if SM can't offer something other than this, there's no reason for it to exist. For me, it is far more important that I have something that is stable and has a stable database format that I can develop my own tools for than it is to support the latest eye-candy. The database format for bookmarks and mail has been almost unchanged for that entire 20 years -- until now. I haven't decided which browser+email I will be switching to since considerable research will be required, but it has become sadly obvious to me that it is necessary to change. Unless, that is, someone is willing to fork SeaMonkey at the 2.0.14 level and maintain it strictly with security bug fixes. Sorry to see you go. Be sure to post back with what browser+email program you switched to. SM2.0.14 is the end of the line for the 2.0 version. I'm not that crazy about certain aspects of SM2.2 but I've learned to make it work for me. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.14 Massage Filters
PhillipJones wrote: Where and what is the Message filter database called Mine has suddenly quit showing email address so I can no longer add filters. I'd like to copy the one I have in my profile for 2.5.1 and see if I could get it working. Found it. That didn't help Works in 2.5.1 but not 2.0.14. email address show: http://www.screencast.com/t/On6tOcXYd -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SUGGESTION
How about the ability to move tool bar buttons around by dragging with the mouse? For example, I would like to move the Home and Tinyurl buttons up to the top bar and close the others, so I could get more screen area for viewing sites instead of bars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
