Re: SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

[Desiree]

On 9/19/2016 5:33 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/19/2016 7:34 AM, Desiree wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.40 on Windows 8.0 Pro is minimizing EVERY tab SEPARATELY
to the task bar.  When I go to click on the icon on the task bar to
bring up SeaMonkey I see a long list on the screen of ALL tabs and I
cannot just click on the icon and bring up SeaMonkey.  I have to
CHOOSE a specific tab in the list and bring up that tab and then the
others are brought up with it.

This isn't SeaMonkey doing what Mozilla is starting to do with
electrolysis on Fx is it?  I ask because EVERY TAB IS LISTED now for
SeaMonkey in Task Manager.  It is making a huge mess of Task Manager.
I don't plan on installing whatever version of Fx forces electrolysis
and I don't want it on SeaMonkey either!

This is NOT happening on my default SeaMonkey profile but on one I
don't use often and have few extensions on.  So, is there a setting
that I have forgotten about in about:config that I need to set to stop
it doing this?


Just found out on IRC that this is a SeaMonkey feature, so your default
profile is broken. ;-)

When did it become a feature?  I checked the default profile and it was 
user set to "false".  I don't recall setting it that way but then my 
memory is not what it was when I was younger and the default profile is 
OLD...very old so if this is an older "feature" I wouldn't likely 
remember changing the preference.


My default profile is "broken" in another way though.  It won't play 
TWCTV on demand TV shows which uses Flash Player.  Fx 45.3 ESR won't 
either on its very old default profile.  So, I created the newer 
SeaMonkey profile mainly to get that working which it does just fine.


Changing the preference also fixed Task Manager so it no longer lists 
every tab but just the one that has focus.

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Re: SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

[Desiree]

On 9/19/2016 4:59 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 9/19/2016 at 7:34 AM, Desiree's prodigious digits fired off:

SeaMonkey 2.40 on Windows 8.0 Pro is minimizing EVERY tab SEPARATELY  to
the task bar.  When I go to click on the icon on the task bar to bring
up SeaMonkey I see a long list on the screen of ALL tabs and I cannot
just click on the icon and bring up SeaMonkey.  I have to CHOOSE a
specific tab in the list and bring up that tab and then the others are
brought up with it.

This isn't SeaMonkey doing what Mozilla is starting to do with
electrolysis on Fx is it?  I ask because EVERY TAB IS LISTED now for
SeaMonkey in Task Manager.  It is making a huge mess of Task Manager. I
don't plan on installing whatever version of Fx forces electrolysis and
I don't want it on SeaMonkey either!

This is NOT happening on my default SeaMonkey profile but on one I don't
use often and have few extensions on.  So, is there a setting that I
have forgotten about in about:config that I need to set to stop it doing
this?



Try setting browser.taskbar.previews.enable to false in about:config.
Default is true.

That fixed it!  Thanks.  The preference was set to false on my default 
profile. I've had the default profile for ever seems like so I have 
forgotten a lot of changes I made along the way.

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Re: PennDOT cookie issue

[Jonathan N. Little]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> I did clear private data, which in my settings includes cookies and
> cache, but since cookies.sqlite is read-only, that could only affect
> memory, which should be clear anyway after a program restart.

That might trigger it. With allow all cookies following the first time
going to



sent me to the error page.

Left the site but did not clear any settings and tried the url the
second time I landed on Online Vehicle Services Login.


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Re: PennDOT cookie issue

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


On 9/19/2016 8:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Once a year, the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation sends me a
vehicle registration renewal notice, inviting me to visit their website
 to perform the process quickly and easily. And
once a year I try and fail because my "The service you have selected
uses non-persistent cookies. Your browser is not currently set up to
allow non-persistent cookies." This is a lie.

My cookie settings allow first-party cookies and reject third-party
cookies, and clear all cache, history, and cookies at the end of a
SeaMonkey session. I also have InternetExploiter 11, with exactly the
same settings, and the site works. I've confirmed that both browsers are
accepting cookies.

On examining the cookies set in IE 11, I see one that I don't recognize
from SM's Cookie Manager. It's called "cookie:paul b.
gallagher@localhost/" (this is the filename). If I delete it from
...\Windows\Temporary Files\ and try to proceed, the site immediately
sets it again and continues as if nothing had happened.

I've tried to contact PennDOT, but their system is designed to prevent
any contact with their webmaster, so no luck there.

Any bright ideas? Could the two browsers have a different definition of
"third party"? Is there a way to set SM to accept this weird cookie?



In your SeaMonkey profile with SeaMonkey NOT running, mark the profile
of the file cookies.sqlite as "read only".  When you then launch
SeaMonkey, set your preferences to allow all cookies.  As soon as you
are done at the PennDOT Web site, the site will think you are allowing
all cookies and that it has written persistant cookies to your hard
drive.  NO cookies will actually be written.  If you are concerned about
having those cookies in SeaMonkey's memory while you surf elsewhere,
terminate and then re-launch SeaMonkey.


I tried to follow your confusing instructions as best I could, and they didn't 
work.

I did terminate SeaMonkey and set cookies.sqlite to read-only.

I did relaunch SeaMonkey and set my cookie preferences to "Allow all cookies" and 
"Accept
cookies normally."

I did clear private data, which in my settings includes cookies and cache, but 
since
cookies.sqlite is read-only, that could only affect memory, which should be 
clear anyway
after a program restart.

I then visited the DMV site, and the moment I tried to visit the vehicle 
registration page
it threw the same error, complaining that it couldn't set nonpersistent cookies.

Why you think it wants to set persistent cookies I don't know; that's the 
opposite of what
it said. And I never got to the point of being "done at the PennDOT website," 
since it
refused to do anything without its precious cookie.

Any other ideas?


Scripts on?  Flash on?  Ad blocker off?
I can't renew of course but I can get to the page that wants title, etc, info.
Had to allow SM to send me to another page:
(Normally I have that function blocked.)
https://www.dot4.state.pa.us/vehicle_services/vrlogin.jsp#top?20160920012844742=20160920012844742

4 cookies from pa.gov and 2 from state.pa.us.

Your plates are cheap at $36!
My 2006 Kia runs $70 here in Texas.

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Re: PennDOT cookie issue

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:


On 9/19/2016 8:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Once a year, the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation sends me a
vehicle registration renewal notice, inviting me to visit their website
 to perform the process quickly and easily. And
once a year I try and fail because my "The service you have selected
uses non-persistent cookies. Your browser is not currently set up to
allow non-persistent cookies." This is a lie.

My cookie settings allow first-party cookies and reject third-party
cookies, and clear all cache, history, and cookies at the end of a
SeaMonkey session. I also have InternetExploiter 11, with exactly the
same settings, and the site works. I've confirmed that both browsers are
accepting cookies.

On examining the cookies set in IE 11, I see one that I don't recognize
from SM's Cookie Manager. It's called "cookie:paul b.
gallagher@localhost/" (this is the filename). If I delete it from
...\Windows\Temporary Files\ and try to proceed, the site immediately
sets it again and continues as if nothing had happened.

I've tried to contact PennDOT, but their system is designed to prevent
any contact with their webmaster, so no luck there.

Any bright ideas? Could the two browsers have a different definition of
"third party"? Is there a way to set SM to accept this weird cookie?



In your SeaMonkey profile with SeaMonkey NOT running, mark the profile
of the file cookies.sqlite as "read only".  When you then launch
SeaMonkey, set your preferences to allow all cookies.  As soon as you
are done at the PennDOT Web site, the site will think you are allowing
all cookies and that it has written persistant cookies to your hard
drive.  NO cookies will actually be written.  If you are concerned about
having those cookies in SeaMonkey's memory while you surf elsewhere,
terminate and then re-launch SeaMonkey.


I tried to follow your confusing instructions as best I could, and they 
didn't work.


I did terminate SeaMonkey and set cookies.sqlite to read-only.

I did relaunch SeaMonkey and set my cookie preferences to "Allow all 
cookies" and "Accept cookies normally."


I did clear private data, which in my settings includes cookies and 
cache, but since cookies.sqlite is read-only, that could only affect 
memory, which should be clear anyway after a program restart.


I then visited the DMV site, and the moment I tried to visit the vehicle 
registration page it threw the same error, complaining that it couldn't 
set nonpersistent cookies.


Why you think it wants to set persistent cookies I don't know; that's 
the opposite of what it said. And I never got to the point of being 
"done at the PennDOT website," since it refused to do anything without 
its precious cookie.


Any other ideas?

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Re: PennDOT cookie issue

[David E. Ross]

On 9/19/2016 8:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Once a year, the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation sends me a 
> vehicle registration renewal notice, inviting me to visit their website 
>  to perform the process quickly and easily. And 
> once a year I try and fail because my "The service you have selected 
> uses non-persistent cookies. Your browser is not currently set up to 
> allow non-persistent cookies." This is a lie.
> 
> My cookie settings allow first-party cookies and reject third-party 
> cookies, and clear all cache, history, and cookies at the end of a 
> SeaMonkey session. I also have InternetExploiter 11, with exactly the 
> same settings, and the site works. I've confirmed that both browsers are 
> accepting cookies.
> 
> On examining the cookies set in IE 11, I see one that I don't recognize 
> from SM's Cookie Manager. It's called "cookie:paul b. 
> gallagher@localhost/" (this is the filename). If I delete it from 
> ...\Windows\Temporary Files\ and try to proceed, the site immediately 
> sets it again and continues as if nothing had happened.
> 
> I've tried to contact PennDOT, but their system is designed to prevent 
> any contact with their webmaster, so no luck there.
> 
> Any bright ideas? Could the two browsers have a different definition of 
> "third party"? Is there a way to set SM to accept this weird cookie?
> 

In your SeaMonkey profile with SeaMonkey NOT running, mark the profile
of the file cookies.sqlite as "read only".  When you then launch
SeaMonkey, set your preferences to allow all cookies.  As soon as you
are done at the PennDOT Web site, the site will think you are allowing
all cookies and that it has written persistant cookies to your hard
drive.  NO cookies will actually be written.  If you are concerned about
having those cookies in SeaMonkey's memory while you surf elsewhere,
terminate and then re-launch SeaMonkey.

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PennDOT cookie issue

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Once a year, the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation sends me a 
vehicle registration renewal notice, inviting me to visit their website 
 to perform the process quickly and easily. And 
once a year I try and fail because my "The service you have selected 
uses non-persistent cookies. Your browser is not currently set up to 
allow non-persistent cookies." This is a lie.


My cookie settings allow first-party cookies and reject third-party 
cookies, and clear all cache, history, and cookies at the end of a 
SeaMonkey session. I also have InternetExploiter 11, with exactly the 
same settings, and the site works. I've confirmed that both browsers are 
accepting cookies.


On examining the cookies set in IE 11, I see one that I don't recognize 
from SM's Cookie Manager. It's called "cookie:paul b. 
gallagher@localhost/" (this is the filename). If I delete it from 
...\Windows\Temporary Files\ and try to proceed, the site immediately 
sets it again and continues as if nothing had happened.


I've tried to contact PennDOT, but their system is designed to prevent 
any contact with their webmaster, so no luck there.


Any bright ideas? Could the two browsers have a different definition of 
"third party"? Is there a way to set SM to accept this weird cookie?


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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> 
>> The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:
>>
>> "Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"
>>
>> states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
>> instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
>> seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
>> as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html
>>
>>
>> So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?
> 
> Probably, but you don't have to view "acceptable ads."
> 
> Do Ctrl-Shift-E, or click the ABP icon (stop sign) in the lower right
> corner of your browser and choose "Filter preferences..."
> 
> On the "Filter preferences" tab, uncheck the option, "Allow some
> non-intrusive advertising" at the lower left.
> 
> The same option is available on your Android phone: open ABP and uncheck
> the box, "Acceptable Ads" (the default is to allow them).
> 
> In both cases, the setting is "sticky" -- it survives a reboot of the
> program or the system, and in my experience it has also survived upgrades.
> 
Thanks for responding. I have unchecked the option.
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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:

"Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"

states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html

So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?


Probably, but you don't have to view "acceptable ads."

Do Ctrl-Shift-E, or click the ABP icon (stop sign) in the lower right 
corner of your browser and choose "Filter preferences..."


On the "Filter preferences" tab, uncheck the option, "Allow some 
non-intrusive advertising" at the lower left.


The same option is available on your Android phone: open ABP and uncheck 
the box, "Acceptable Ads" (the default is to allow them).


In both cases, the setting is "sticky" -- it survives a reboot of the 
program or the system, and in my experience it has also survived upgrades.


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Re: SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Desiree wrote:


SeaMonkey 2.40 on Windows 8.0 Pro is minimizing EVERY tab SEPARATELY
to the task bar.  When I go to click on the icon on the task bar to
bring up SeaMonkey I see a long list on the screen of ALL tabs and I
cannot just click on the icon and bring up SeaMonkey.  I have to
CHOOSE a specific tab in the list and bring up that tab and then the
others are brought up with it.


This looks to me like an OS feature, not a SM feature.

In earlier versions of Windows (I have Win7), you could control this 
behavior by setting the Taskbar properties. Here are the Win7 
instructions; they're probably similar on Win8 but I can't guarantee it:


Right-click an empty area on the Taskbar and choose "Properties."

In the dialog that appears, on the "Taskbar" tab, there's an option for 
"Taskbar buttons:" with a pull-down list:

[Always combine, hide labels]
[Combine when taskbar is full]
[Never combine]

The third option will do what you're describing. Choose a different one 
and you'll get different results.


You don't have to unlock the taskbar to do this.

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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[EE]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:

"Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"

states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html

So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?


You can still uncheck the box in "Filter Preferences".

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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[Arnie Goetchius]

David E. Ross wrote:
> On 9/19/2016 6:58 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:
>>
>> "Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"
>>
>> states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
>> instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
>> seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
>> as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html
>>
>> So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?
>>
> 
> This is old news.  The current version (2.7.3) of AdBlock Plus was
> released more than four months ago.
> 
> There is a checkbox in AdBlock Plus to disable that "feature".
> 
Thanks for the tip on the "feature". I unchecked that box.
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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[NoOp]

On 9/19/2016 6:58 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:
> 
> "Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"
> 
> states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
> instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
> seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
> as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html
> 
> So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?
> 

Nothing new: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads

As Chris recommended: uBlock Origin - but be aware of the configuration
options as it can be too powerful if you are not aware of all settings &
start turning things on without understanding the implications:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
  https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode

Disclaimer: I use both Adblock Plus and uBlock Plus (not simultaneously)
depending upon which browser I use & what I want to block.

Also be aware that, like Adblock and Adblock Plus, there are two
versions: uBlock and uBlock Origins. More info here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBlock_Origin

If you want to try uBlock (I do not recommend) instead:
https://github.com/chrisaljoudi/ublock
  https://www.ublock.org/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/ublock/?src=ss
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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[NoOp]

On 9/19/2016 7:57 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 9/19/2016 6:58 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:
>> 
>> "Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"
>> 
>> states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
>> instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
>> seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
>> as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."
>> 
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html
>> 
>> So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?
>> 
> 
> This is old news.  The current version (2.7.3) of AdBlock Plus was
> released more than four months ago.
> 
> There is a checkbox in AdBlock Plus to disable that "feature".
> 

About 5 years old news :-)

@Arnie: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads

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Re: SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

[WaltS48]

On 9/19/2016 7:34 AM, Desiree wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.40 on Windows 8.0 Pro is minimizing EVERY tab SEPARATELY  
to the task bar.  When I go to click on the icon on the task bar to 
bring up SeaMonkey I see a long list on the screen of ALL tabs and I 
cannot just click on the icon and bring up SeaMonkey.  I have to 
CHOOSE a specific tab in the list and bring up that tab and then the 
others are brought up with it.


This isn't SeaMonkey doing what Mozilla is starting to do with 
electrolysis on Fx is it?  I ask because EVERY TAB IS LISTED now for 
SeaMonkey in Task Manager.  It is making a huge mess of Task Manager. 
I don't plan on installing whatever version of Fx forces electrolysis 
and I don't want it on SeaMonkey either!


This is NOT happening on my default SeaMonkey profile but on one I 
don't use often and have few extensions on.  So, is there a setting 
that I have forgotten about in about:config that I need to set to stop 
it doing this?


Just found out on IRC that this is a SeaMonkey feature, so your default 
profile is broken. ;-)


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Re: SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

[WaltS48]

Desiree wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.40 on Windows 8.0 Pro is minimizing EVERY tab SEPARATELY  
to the task bar.  When I go to click on the icon on the task bar to 
bring up SeaMonkey I see a long list on the screen of ALL tabs and I 
cannot just click on the icon and bring up SeaMonkey.  I have to 
CHOOSE a specific tab in the list and bring up that tab and then the 
others are brought up with it.


This isn't SeaMonkey doing what Mozilla is starting to do with 
electrolysis on Fx is it?  I ask because EVERY TAB IS LISTED now for 
SeaMonkey in Task Manager.  It is making a huge mess of Task Manager. 
I don't plan on installing whatever version of Fx forces electrolysis 
and I don't want it on SeaMonkey either!


This is NOT happening on my default SeaMonkey profile but on one I 
don't use often and have few extensions on.  So, is there a setting 
that I have forgotten about in about:config that I need to set to stop 
it doing this?




I'm seeing it using my Default profile, clicking any tab opens the 
browser to that tab for me. Aslo in safe mode and witha fresh test profile.


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.40

Advertising Firefox Compatibility didn't help.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40


Has nothing to do with electrolysis. My Firefox Nightly with 
electrolysis enabled doesn't display the problem.


Happy your default profile works.


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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[David E. Ross]

On 9/19/2016 6:58 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:
> 
> "Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"
> 
> states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
> instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
> seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
> as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html
> 
> So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?
> 

This is old news.  The current version (2.7.3) of AdBlock Plus was
released more than four months ago.

There is a checkbox in AdBlock Plus to disable that "feature".

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Re: SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/19/2016 at 7:34 AM, Desiree's prodigious digits fired off:

SeaMonkey 2.40 on Windows 8.0 Pro is minimizing EVERY tab SEPARATELY  to
the task bar.  When I go to click on the icon on the task bar to bring
up SeaMonkey I see a long list on the screen of ALL tabs and I cannot
just click on the icon and bring up SeaMonkey.  I have to CHOOSE a
specific tab in the list and bring up that tab and then the others are
brought up with it.

This isn't SeaMonkey doing what Mozilla is starting to do with
electrolysis on Fx is it?  I ask because EVERY TAB IS LISTED now for
SeaMonkey in Task Manager.  It is making a huge mess of Task Manager. I
don't plan on installing whatever version of Fx forces electrolysis and
I don't want it on SeaMonkey either!

This is NOT happening on my default SeaMonkey profile but on one I don't
use often and have few extensions on.  So, is there a setting that I
have forgotten about in about:config that I need to set to stop it doing
this?



Try setting browser.taskbar.previews.enable to false in about:config. 
Default is true.


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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[Chris Ilias]

On 19/09/2016 9:58 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:

"Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"

states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html

So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?



I recommend uBlock Origin 



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Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[Arnie Goetchius]

The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:

"Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"

states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html

So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?
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SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

[Desiree]

SeaMonkey 2.40 on Windows 8.0 Pro is minimizing EVERY tab SEPARATELY  to 
the task bar.  When I go to click on the icon on the task bar to bring 
up SeaMonkey I see a long list on the screen of ALL tabs and I cannot 
just click on the icon and bring up SeaMonkey.  I have to CHOOSE a 
specific tab in the list and bring up that tab and then the others are 
brought up with it.


This isn't SeaMonkey doing what Mozilla is starting to do with 
electrolysis on Fx is it?  I ask because EVERY TAB IS LISTED now for 
SeaMonkey in Task Manager.  It is making a huge mess of Task Manager. I 
don't plan on installing whatever version of Fx forces electrolysis and 
I don't want it on SeaMonkey either!


This is NOT happening on my default SeaMonkey profile but on one I don't 
use often and have few extensions on.  So, is there a setting that I 
have forgotten about in about:config that I need to set to stop it doing 
this?


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SeaMonkey 2.4 and Windows 10! another probable problem

[cqbrodie]

Trying to use SeaMonkey on Windows 10.

Many thanks to several who helped my situation to add the Profile 
Manager to the desktop on a new PC .


It sort of worked when I clock on the SeaMonkey logo on the desktop, the 
profile manager shows up.


But this now happens:
I have 3 email accounts: A B and C.  When I set up acct A and send an 
email to B or C accounts, the B or C accounts only show what A as the 
"owner"  has and do not display B or C "ownership" or the email A sent.
When I change B to be B and delete the stuff that was really on A, I 
don't get what I sent to B.And the same thing happens with C's "ownership"
Hope this makes sense and any solutions will be gratefully received.  Is 
this a windows 10 problem not accepting SeaMonkey v2.40 as an acceptable 
app.

or is this a bug created with Windows 10.

Cliff

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