Re: New user - with questions

[Ray_Net]

joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 28-05-17 00:40:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 1:23:43 PM UTC-4, WaltS48 wrote:

joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.


What is your ISP? Comcast?

What are your Outgoing Server (SMTP) settings?

smtp.comcast.net  -- Seamonkey does appear to be communing with this server, 
but never complains or completes.

The port is 587.  This is known to work from other newsreaders running on the 
present computer.


You NEVER told us what is your SMTP server  therefore, We cannot 
help you.


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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

[Lee]

On 5/27/17, Felix Miata  wrote:
> Lee composed on 2017-05-26 14:10 (UTC-0400):
>
>> - start seamonkey
>> - delete all your bookmarks
>> - import your edited bookmarks.html file
>
> Doesn't keep them totally away. Using a test profile, I deleted all
> bookmarks
> that bookmark manager would permit. Then I closed SM, reenabled automatic
> import via user.js, restarted,

automatic import might be the problem - can you try deleting all your
bookmarks and then doing tools / import html, tools / export html and
see if you've got any icons in the newly exported bookmarks file?

Regards,
Lee


> then deleted the three duplicate folders importing
> always creates, then exported HTML. The result was 671,826 bytes vs. the
> 531,157
> byte result of the stripping script, and the 787,654 bytes of the original
> export.
>
>   grep ICON= bookmarks.html | wc -l
>
> on the fresh export produced 185. Doing same with the exported file I ran
> the
> stripper against produced 311. So it looks like this exercise may ultimately
> be
> good for some places.sqlite weight loss, but less than ideal.
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Re: Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[WaltS48]

On 5/27/17 4:15 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 3:44 PM:

On 5/27/17 3:30 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 3:03 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:35 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 2:22 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:02 PM, rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 5/27/2017 1:45 PM:
When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by 
clicking on

them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an
email.  In
Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.

Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file 
through
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears 
to use

that
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars
created in
the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the 
properties it

just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under
Windows?  It
is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


I think I figured out a way to do this.  I need to first create a
calendar
with the right name which creates a file in the default 
location.  Then
under Events and Tasks - Import I can load a given .ics file into 
that

calendar.



That is what you need to do unless you want to Import them to the 
default

Home calendar.





I guess the details of how a calendar is displayed don't get 
saved in the

.ics file.


They don't.


Any idea where these settings *are* saved?


Probably moz-storage-calendar:// wherever that is.


Funny they weren't imported with the other settings.  Maybe they 
were but

discarded since the calendar isn't in SeaMonkey when this was imported



That bites me every time I forget to create the New Calendar before
importing. My Events end up in Home, then I have to find each event, 
delete

it, create the New Calendar and import again.


SeaMonkey seems to have some real issues with the calendar.  Once I 
loaded
all my calendars I got a number of alarms popping up.  I tried to use 
the

global snooze button to make them go away and it only made *some* alerts
go away and left two.  I tried it again and one more went away.  A third
time made the final one go away.



Well, you were importing your calendars along with their reminders, that
hadn't been launched and dismissed in SeaMonkey. 😀


I'm not sure what you are saying.  How does this relate to the problem 
of snoozing all the alarms ?


I'm not dismissing them.  I'm snoozing them.





Sorry, misread the "global snooze button" as the "Dismiss All" button.

Either way, the reminders are going to activate, once you import the 
calendars



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Re: New user - with questions

[joegwinn]

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 12:48:24 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
> joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/27/2017 12:08 PM:
> > On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 8:19:10 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
> >> joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/26/2017 7:16 PM:
> >>> I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and 
> >>> have gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
> >>>
> >>> 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I 
> >>> have not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that 
> >>> cannot post email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a 
> >>> solution.  In this case, I knew that I had not been able to enter a 
> >>> password, but I won't be that lucky in the future.
> >>>
> >>> Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot 
> >>> sent email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.
> >>
> >> I don't know about saving posts as emails to self, but SeaMonkey is also
> >> a newsreader.  So all those features should be included in the
> >> newsreader function of SeaMonkey.
> >>
> >> Actually I just checked and I can click "reply to sender" then edit the
> >> address and email it to myself.
> 
> You didn't respond to this part.  If your posts show up in the 
> newsreader as posts to the group, do you need to save them separately?
> 
> You can do that using filters.  Filter on posts from you and set the 
> action to copy them to another folder.

It's simpler to keep a copy of what was sent, rather than depending on the 
newsreader to get it wight.  Often, it does not.

A better solution has been posted, in "Copies and Folders".

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: New user - with questions

[Paul B. Gallagher]

joegw...@comcast.net wrote:


On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 1:23:43 PM UTC-4, WaltS48 wrote:


You don't get a password prompt asking for the password and
allowing you to save it in SeaMonkey's password manager?


No prompt.  Nor does there seem to be any way just add the data to
the Passwords file.


OK, try this (assuming you know your SMTP username and password):

Go to  and enter 
"comcast" (no quotation marks) in the search window at upper left. You 
should get a list that includes an entry with the SMTP data. Select and 
delete it.


Rationale: The next time you try to send a message, SM will have no 
userid or password to send to the server, so it will HAVE to prompt you 
for the info. Enter the data and check the box telling SM to remember, 
and that should solve it. If you get it wrong, you should get an 
immediate error message inviting you to try again.


Do be careful to adhere to Comcast's policy as to whether you should 
enter your full email address (joegw...@comcast.net) or just the prefix 
(joegwinn) as your username. Different ISPs have different preferences.


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Re: New user - with questions

[joegwinn]

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 1:23:43 PM UTC-4, WaltS48 wrote:
> joegw...@comcast.net wrote:
> > I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
> > gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
> >
> > 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have 
> > not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot 
> > post email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In 
> > this case, I knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't 
> > be that lucky in the future.
> 
> 
> What is your ISP? Comcast?
> 
> What are your Outgoing Server (SMTP) settings?

smtp.comcast.net  -- Seamonkey does appear to be communing with this server, 
but never complains or completes.  

The port is 587.  This is known to work from other newsreaders running on the 
present computer.


> See:  or contact your ISP for 
> the proper settings.

I do use COMCAST, and I went to their website on how to do this.  I have done 
this many times, with success.  


 
> You don't get a password prompt asking for the password and allowing you 
> to save it in SeaMonkey's password manager?

No prompt.  Nor does there seem to be any way just add the data to the 
Passwords file.


> > Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
> > email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.
> >
> 
> Are you using Google Groups to post messages, or subscribed to this 
> group on news.mozilla.org?
> 
> Not able to send replies to the mailing list, or another person? It is 
> better to reply to the list or newsgroup.

I'm not actually sure how I got here, as I did it via Seamonkey's live link.  
Is there a problem?  I can come in some other way.


> > 2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
> > and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like 
> > why my attempts to sent email never complete.
> >
> 
> 
> The key combination Ctrl+Shift+J should bring up the Error Console, 
> which may have error messages related to why your attempts never complete.

I did look at the error console, but saw no NNTP or SMTP protocol chit-chat.  
Here is an example:

Timestamp: 5/27/17, 6:25:26 PM
Warning: Unknown pseudo-class or pseudo-element ‘-webkit-scrollbar-thumb’.  
Ruleset ignored due to bad selector.
Source File: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/resources/4176867222-native-picker-css.css
Line: 2, Column: 15682
Source Code:
.picker-framepane-root{position:absolute;width:100%;height:100%}* 
.picker-framepane-root{overflow:hidden}.picker-framepane-content{position:absolute;top:0;left:0;right:0;bottom:0;overflow:hidden}*
 html 
.picker-framepane-content{position:relative;top:0;left:0;right:0;bottom:0;width:100%;height:100%}.picker-framepane-top,.picker-framepane-bottom{position:absolute;left:0;right:0}*
 html .picker-framepane-top,* html
.picker-frame{width:100%;height:100%;border:0;overflow:hidden}.picker-upload-button-visible
 .picker-drag-drop-supported 
.picker-photos-upload-dropzone-cell{vertical-align:middle}.picker-photos-upload-dropzone
 td{text-align:center}.picker .progress-bar-thumb{background-color:#5d80ef}


> > 3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages 
> > and postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such 
> > things as the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a 
> > large high-resolution display.
> >
> 
> Chris provided the instructions for creating a userChrome.css file. This 
> may also help 
> 

I did look into this, and I'll try it, but really should an ordinary user be 
futzing with css modules and the like?  I was a programmer some decades ago, 
and this sounds like one mistake will destroy the World.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: New user - with questions

[joegwinn]

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 1:21:32 PM UTC-4, EE wrote:
> joegw...@comcast.net wrote:
> > On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:45:24 PM UTC-4, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> >> joegw...@comcast.net wrote:
> >>> I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and 
> >>> have gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
> >>>
> >>> 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I 
> >>> have not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that 
> >>> cannot post email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a 
> >>> solution.  In this case, I knew that I had not been able to enter a 
> >>> password, but I won't be that lucky in the future.
> >>>
> >>
> >> At the top of the screen, select "Edit"
> >> Select "Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings"
> >> Scroll down to the bottom for "Outgoing Server SMTP"
> >> Click "Add" and then add the details for your mail server.
> >>
> >> On mine, I have "Normal Password" selected. The first time I try sending 
> >> an email, it asks for my
> >> password and then saves it so it won't ask for it again. This is somewhat 
> >> of an over simplification
> >> but you can Google Seamonkey Mail Setup for more details.
> >
> > I've tried all this, to no avail.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> You need to set SeaMonkey to save passwords.  Preferences > Privacy & 
> Security > Passwords > check "Remember passwords".  In Account Settings 
>  > Server Settings for an account, check "Always request authentication 
> when connecting to this server".

Didn't help.  No idea why.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: New user - with questions

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Try playing around in about:config with layout.css.devPixelsPerPx

See if 1.5 or 2.0 get you anything. HiDPI support in SeaMonkey is currently 
lacking so icons might not look too nice.


If you experience any gross errors please file a bug. This needs to be solved 
over time.


FRG




3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.


Try the instructions at .
I haven't tested that in years, so tell me if it doesn't work.


I'll try this.  As I mentioned in a separate email, Zoom only affects the 
message bodies, and not icons, list entries, et al, defeating the purpose of 
Zoom.

Thanks,

Joe



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Re: Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[rickman]

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 3:44 PM:

On 5/27/17 3:30 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 3:03 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:35 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 2:22 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:02 PM, rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 5/27/2017 1:45 PM:

When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by clicking on
them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an
email.  In
Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.

Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file through
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears to use
that
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars
created in
the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the properties it
just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under
Windows?  It
is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


I think I figured out a way to do this.  I need to first create a
calendar
with the right name which creates a file in the default location.  Then
under Events and Tasks - Import I can load a given .ics file into that
calendar.



That is what you need to do unless you want to Import them to the default
Home calendar.





I guess the details of how a calendar is displayed don't get saved in the
.ics file.


They don't.


Any idea where these settings *are* saved?


Probably moz-storage-calendar:// wherever that is.



Funny they weren't imported with the other settings.  Maybe they were but
discarded since the calendar isn't in SeaMonkey when this was imported



That bites me every time I forget to create the New Calendar before
importing. My Events end up in Home, then I have to find each event, delete
it, create the New Calendar and import again.


SeaMonkey seems to have some real issues with the calendar.  Once I loaded
all my calendars I got a number of alarms popping up.  I tried to use the
global snooze button to make them go away and it only made *some* alerts
go away and left two.  I tried it again and one more went away.  A third
time made the final one go away.



Well, you were importing your calendars along with their reminders, that
hadn't been launched and dismissed in SeaMonkey. 😀


I'm not sure what you are saying.  How does this relate to the problem of 
snoozing all the alarms ?


I'm not dismissing them.  I'm snoozing them.



T-bird had become nearly unusable with the various slow operation issues.
SeaMonkey only seems to be a little better.  I'm not sure if this bug is
related, but it is a nuisance.  I do get tired of waiting for the cursor
to return.


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Re: Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[WaltS48]

On 5/27/17 3:30 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 3:03 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:35 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 2:22 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:02 PM, rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 5/27/2017 1:45 PM:
When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by 
clicking on
them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an 
email.  In

Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.

Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file 
through
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears to 
use

that
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars 
created in
the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the 
properties it

just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under
Windows?  It
is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


I think I figured out a way to do this.  I need to first create a 
calendar
with the right name which creates a file in the default location.  
Then

under Events and Tasks - Import I can load a given .ics file into that
calendar.



That is what you need to do unless you want to Import them to the 
default

Home calendar.





I guess the details of how a calendar is displayed don't get saved 
in the

.ics file.


They don't.


Any idea where these settings *are* saved?


Probably moz-storage-calendar:// wherever that is.


Funny they weren't imported with the other settings.  Maybe they were 
but

discarded since the calendar isn't in SeaMonkey when this was imported



That bites me every time I forget to create the New Calendar before
importing. My Events end up in Home, then I have to find each event, 
delete

it, create the New Calendar and import again.


SeaMonkey seems to have some real issues with the calendar.  Once I 
loaded all my calendars I got a number of alarms popping up.  I tried to 
use the global snooze button to make them go away and it only made 
*some* alerts go away and left two.  I tried it again and one more went 
away.  A third time made the final one go away.




Well, you were importing your calendars along with their reminders, that 
hadn't been launched and dismissed in SeaMonkey. 😀


T-bird had become nearly unusable with the various slow operation 
issues. SeaMonkey only seems to be a little better.  I'm not sure if 
this bug is related, but it is a nuisance.  I do get tired of waiting 
for the cursor to return.





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Re: Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[rickman]

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 3:03 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:35 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 2:22 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:02 PM, rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 5/27/2017 1:45 PM:

When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by clicking on
them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an email.  In
Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.

Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file through
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears to use
that
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars created in
the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the properties it
just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under
Windows?  It
is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


I think I figured out a way to do this.  I need to first create a calendar
with the right name which creates a file in the default location.  Then
under Events and Tasks - Import I can load a given .ics file into that
calendar.



That is what you need to do unless you want to Import them to the default
Home calendar.





I guess the details of how a calendar is displayed don't get saved in the
.ics file.


They don't.


Any idea where these settings *are* saved?


Probably moz-storage-calendar:// wherever that is.



Funny they weren't imported with the other settings.  Maybe they were but
discarded since the calendar isn't in SeaMonkey when this was imported



That bites me every time I forget to create the New Calendar before
importing. My Events end up in Home, then I have to find each event, delete
it, create the New Calendar and import again.


SeaMonkey seems to have some real issues with the calendar.  Once I loaded 
all my calendars I got a number of alarms popping up.  I tried to use the 
global snooze button to make them go away and it only made *some* alerts go 
away and left two.  I tried it again and one more went away.  A third time 
made the final one go away.


T-bird had become nearly unusable with the various slow operation issues. 
SeaMonkey only seems to be a little better.  I'm not sure if this bug is 
related, but it is a nuisance.  I do get tired of waiting for the cursor to 
return.


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Re: Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[WaltS48]

On 5/27/17 2:35 PM, rickman wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 2:22 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:02 PM, rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 5/27/2017 1:45 PM:
When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by 
clicking on
them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an 
email.  In

Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.

Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file through
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears to 
use that
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars 
created in
the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the 
properties it
just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under 
Windows?  It

is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


I think I figured out a way to do this.  I need to first create a 
calendar

with the right name which creates a file in the default location.  Then
under Events and Tasks - Import I can load a given .ics file into that
calendar.



That is what you need to do unless you want to Import them to the default
Home calendar.





I guess the details of how a calendar is displayed don't get saved in 
the

.ics file.


They don't.


Any idea where these settings *are* saved? 


Probably moz-storage-calendar:// wherever that is.


Funny they weren't imported 
with the other settings.  Maybe they were but discarded since the 
calendar isn't in SeaMonkey when this was imported




That bites me every time I forget to create the New Calendar before 
importing. My Events end up in Home, then I have to find each event, 
delete it, create the New Calendar and import again.


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Re: Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[rickman]

WaltS48 wrote on 5/27/2017 2:22 PM:

On 5/27/17 2:02 PM, rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 5/27/2017 1:45 PM:

When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by clicking on
them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an email.  In
Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.

Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file through
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears to use that
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars created in
the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the properties it
just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under Windows?  It
is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


I think I figured out a way to do this.  I need to first create a calendar
with the right name which creates a file in the default location.  Then
under Events and Tasks - Import I can load a given .ics file into that
calendar.



That is what you need to do unless you want to Import them to the default
Home calendar.





I guess the details of how a calendar is displayed don't get saved in the
.ics file.


They don't.


Any idea where these settings *are* saved?  Funny they weren't imported with 
the other settings.  Maybe they were but discarded since the calendar isn't 
in SeaMonkey when this was imported


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Re: Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[WaltS48]

On 5/27/17 2:02 PM, rickman wrote:

rickman wrote on 5/27/2017 1:45 PM:

When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by clicking on
them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an 
email.  In

Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.

Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file through
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears to use 
that
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars 
created in

the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the properties it
just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under 
Windows?  It

is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


I think I figured out a way to do this.  I need to first create a 
calendar with the right name which creates a file in the default 
location.  Then under Events and Tasks - Import I can load a given .ics 
file into that calendar.



That is what you need to do unless you want to Import them to the 
default Home calendar.






I guess the details of how a calendar is displayed don't get saved in 
the .ics file.  


They don't.



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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 5/25/17, Felix Miata  wrote:

Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too
tiny to present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing
overhead. I'd like to be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form
without the bloat favicons represent.

Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?


I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?

...



Here's an easy way:

In a browser window, right-click the leftmost part of the location bar,
where an icon would appear. Choose Settings for this Toolbar: Text.


Just block favicons and site icons. In about:config:
browser.chrome.favicons - set to false
browser.chrome.site_icons - set to false


Or do Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Content
[ ] Show website icons
[ ] Aggressively look for website icons when the page doesn't define one

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Re: Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[rickman]

rickman wrote on 5/27/2017 1:45 PM:

When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by clicking on
them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an email.  In
Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.

Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file through
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears to use that
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars created in
the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the properties it
just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under Windows?  It
is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


I think I figured out a way to do this.  I need to first create a calendar 
with the right name which creates a file in the default location.  Then 
under Events and Tasks - Import I can load a given .ics file into that 
calendar.


I guess the details of how a calendar is displayed don't get saved in the 
.ics file.  T-bird is acting up again today and doesn't show any email, 
newsgroups or calendars when I open it, so I can't look to see how I had the 
calendar settings configured.  Not that it's all that important.


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Importing Calendar Files (.ics)

[rickman]

When I was using T-bird I could not import calendar files by clicking on 
them.  If I tried it would open the file in an attachment to an email.  In 
Seamonkey it opens the file as text in the browser.


Is there a way to tell SeaMonkey to open the file in the calendar?

Also, I'm not clear on what happens when I open a calendar file through 
File- Open- Calendar File.  It opens in the app, but it appears to use that 
file as the data repository.  How do I find out where calendars created in 
the app will be stored.  When I create one and look at the properties it 
just says, "moz-storage-calendar://"  Where would that be under Windows?  It 
is not an environment variable accessible by the SET command.


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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 5/25/17, Felix Miata  wrote:

Most icons to me are useless, but particularly so for favicons, too
tiny to present meaning, besides a waste of space and processing
overhead. I'd like to be able to archive bookmarks in HTML form
without the bloat favicons represent.

Does anyone know of any way this can be done, extension maybe?


I can't stand them, so maybe don't allow them in the first place?

...



Here's an easy way:

In a browser window, right-click the leftmost part of the location bar,
where an icon would appear. Choose Settings for this Toolbar: Text.


Just block favicons and site icons. In about:config:
browser.chrome.favicons - set to false
browser.chrome.site_icons - set to false

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Re: New user - with questions

[EE]

rickman wrote:

joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/26/2017 7:16 PM:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and
have gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I
have not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client
that cannot post email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a
solution.  In this case, I knew that I had not been able to enter a
password, but I won't be that lucky in the future.

Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot
sent email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.


I don't know about saving posts as emails to self, but SeaMonkey is also
a newsreader.  So all those features should be included in the
newsreader function of SeaMonkey.

Actually I just checked and I can click "reply to sender" then edit the
address and email it to myself.



2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the
email and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting
problems like why my attempts to sent email never complete.


3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of
messages and postings, I have not found a way to change the size of
text in such things as the list of messages; this makes SM very
difficult to use an a large high-resolution display.


When you figure out that one let me know!  I nearly can't read the post
subjects or tell when a group has new posts.  I'm getting serious
eyestrain.

I got the font to be readable in the whole interface by adding code to 
my userChrome.css file in the profile in the subdirectory "chrome".  The 
first line in that file has to be the namespace line.


/* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct 
functioning */
@namespace 
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul";);

 /* set default namespace to XUL */

/* Fonts */
window,page,dialog,menu,wizard,prefwindow,tab,statusbar,toolbar,textbox,button 
{

   font-size: 15px !important;
   font-family: Trebuchet MS !important;
}

More info about userChrome.css here:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css


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Re: New user - with questions

[WaltS48]

joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.



What is your ISP? Comcast?

What are your Outgoing Server (SMTP) settings?

See:  or contact your ISP for 
the proper settings.


You don't get a password prompt asking for the password and allowing you 
to save it in SeaMonkey's password manager?





Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.



Are you using Google Groups to post messages, or subscribed to this 
group on news.mozilla.org?


Not able to send replies to the mailing list, or another person? It is 
better to reply to the list or newsgroup.




2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why 
my attempts to sent email never complete.




The key combination Ctrl+Shift+J should bring up the Error Console, 
which may have error messages related to why your attempts never complete.




3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.



Chris provided the instructions for creating a userChrome.css file. This 
may also help 



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Re: New user - with questions

[EE]

joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:45:24 PM UTC-4, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.



At the top of the screen, select "Edit"
Select "Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings"
Scroll down to the bottom for "Outgoing Server SMTP"
Click "Add" and then add the details for your mail server.

On mine, I have "Normal Password" selected. The first time I try sending an 
email, it asks for my
password and then saves it so it won't ask for it again. This is somewhat of an 
over simplification
but you can Google Seamonkey Mail Setup for more details.


I've tried all this, to no avail.

Joe

You need to set SeaMonkey to save passwords.  Preferences > Privacy & 
Security > Passwords > check "Remember passwords".  In Account Settings 
> Server Settings for an account, check "Always request authentication 
when connecting to this server".



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Re: New user - with questions

[Paul B. Gallagher]

G. Ross wrote:


G. Ross wrote:


Click on Edit> mail & newsgroup account settings > (such as)
news.mozilla.org  > copies & folders
Check "automatically place a copy on (select folder).  Mine are saved
in Local Folders.  They are automatically sorted by year sent.


Sorry.  They will NOT be sorted by year.  It is Archived messages that
are sorted by year automatically.


Messages in any mail folder will be sorted by the sort parameters set 
for all folders. In my case, I sort ascending by date (newest at 
bottom), and all folders honor that choice. The OP can choose whatever 
he likes by clicking the column heading in any message folder. Clicking 
the same column heading again toggles the order (ascending/descending).


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Re: New user - with questions

[rickman]

joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/27/2017 12:08 PM:

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 8:19:10 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:

joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/26/2017 7:16 PM:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.

Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.


I don't know about saving posts as emails to self, but SeaMonkey is also
a newsreader.  So all those features should be included in the
newsreader function of SeaMonkey.

Actually I just checked and I can click "reply to sender" then edit the
address and email it to myself.


You didn't respond to this part.  If your posts show up in the 
newsreader as posts to the group, do you need to save them separately?


You can do that using filters.  Filter on posts from you and set the 
action to copy them to another folder.




2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why 
my attempts to sent email never complete.


3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.


When you figure out that one let me know!  I nearly can't read the post
subjects or tell when a group has new posts.  I'm getting serious
eyestrain.


I've not succeeded.  Not even Zoom works.  Only message content listens to zoom 
or to font changes. It would appear that the developers of Seamonkey are 
unclear on the concept of Zoom - it's not supposed to be selective.

Joe




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Re: New user - with questions

[G. Ross]

G. Ross wrote:

joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 9:10:32 PM UTC-4, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2017-05-26 7:16 PM, joegw...@comcast.net wrote:
> I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
>
> 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have 
not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.

When you attempt to send a message, SeaMonkey will prompt you for the
password. There will be a checkbox to remember that password. It's the
same password manager used in the browser.


It isn't happening.



> Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.

To send an email reply, control-click on the message, and select "Reply
to Sender Only". There's also a small arrow beside the Reply toolbar
icon, that will let you choose whether to reply in the newsgroup or to
the sender only.

To save a copy of a newsgroup article, you can either:
* drag the message to any mail folder
* control-click on the message and select "Copy To"
* On the menu bar, go to the Message menu and select "Copy To"
* Add the "File" toolbar icon to the toolbar, and click on it to copy
the message to a folder.


Solves the wrong problem.  I want a method to automatically save copies of 
everything I post.  Any method that requires me to unfailingly remember to do 
something is doomed.



Click on Edit> mail & newsgroup account settings > (such as)
news.mozilla.org  > copies & folders
Check "automatically place a copy on (select folder).  Mine are saved
in Local Folders.  They are automatically sorted by year sent.


> 2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why my 
attempts to sent email never complete.


I think there is, but I can't find the preference right now. Hoping
someone else can look it up. :)


> 3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages 
and postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.

Try the instructions at .
I haven't tested that in years, so tell me if it doesn't work.


I'll try this.  As I mentioned in a separate email, Zoom only affects the 
message bodies, and not icons, list entries, et al, defeating the purpose of 
Zoom.

Thanks,

Joe




Sorry.  They will NOT be sorted by year.  It is Archived messages that 
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Re: New user - with questions

[G. Ross]

joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 9:10:32 PM UTC-4, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2017-05-26 7:16 PM, joegw...@comcast.net wrote:
> I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
>
> 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have 
not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.

When you attempt to send a message, SeaMonkey will prompt you for the
password. There will be a checkbox to remember that password. It's the
same password manager used in the browser.


It isn't happening.



> Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.

To send an email reply, control-click on the message, and select "Reply
to Sender Only". There's also a small arrow beside the Reply toolbar
icon, that will let you choose whether to reply in the newsgroup or to
the sender only.

To save a copy of a newsgroup article, you can either:
* drag the message to any mail folder
* control-click on the message and select "Copy To"
* On the menu bar, go to the Message menu and select "Copy To"
* Add the "File" toolbar icon to the toolbar, and click on it to copy
the message to a folder.


Solves the wrong problem.  I want a method to automatically save copies of 
everything I post.  Any method that requires me to unfailingly remember to do 
something is doomed.


Click on Edit> mail & newsgroup account settings > (such as) 
news.mozilla.org  > copies & folders
Check "automatically place a copy on (select folder).  Mine are saved 
in Local Folders.  They are automatically sorted by year sent.



> 2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why my 
attempts to sent email never complete.


I think there is, but I can't find the preference right now. Hoping
someone else can look it up. :)


> 3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages 
and postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.

Try the instructions at .
I haven't tested that in years, so tell me if it doesn't work.


I'll try this.  As I mentioned in a separate email, Zoom only affects the 
message bodies, and not icons, list entries, et al, defeating the purpose of 
Zoom.

Thanks,

Joe




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Re: New user - with questions

[joegwinn]

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 9:10:32 PM UTC-4, Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 2017-05-26 7:16 PM, joegw...@comcast.net wrote:
> > I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
> > gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
> > 
> > 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have 
> > not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot 
> > post email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In 
> > this case, I knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't 
> > be that lucky in the future.
> 
> When you attempt to send a message, SeaMonkey will prompt you for the 
> password. There will be a checkbox to remember that password. It's the 
> same password manager used in the browser.

It isn't happening.

 
> > Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
> > email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.
> 
> To send an email reply, control-click on the message, and select "Reply 
> to Sender Only". There's also a small arrow beside the Reply toolbar 
> icon, that will let you choose whether to reply in the newsgroup or to 
> the sender only.
> 
> To save a copy of a newsgroup article, you can either:
> * drag the message to any mail folder
> * control-click on the message and select "Copy To"
> * On the menu bar, go to the Message menu and select "Copy To"
> * Add the "File" toolbar icon to the toolbar, and click on it to copy 
> the message to a folder.

Solves the wrong problem.  I want a method to automatically save copies of 
everything I post.  Any method that requires me to unfailingly remember to do 
something is doomed.


> > 2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
> > and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like 
> > why my attempts to sent email never complete.
> 
> 
> I think there is, but I can't find the preference right now. Hoping 
> someone else can look it up. :)
> 
> 
> > 3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages 
> > and postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such 
> > things as the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a 
> > large high-resolution display.
> 
> Try the instructions at .
> I haven't tested that in years, so tell me if it doesn't work.

I'll try this.  As I mentioned in a separate email, Zoom only affects the 
message bodies, and not icons, list entries, et al, defeating the purpose of 
Zoom.

Thanks,

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Re: New user - with questions

[joegwinn]

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 8:19:10 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
> joegw...@comcast.net wrote on 5/26/2017 7:16 PM:
> > I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
> > gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
> >
> > 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have 
> > not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot 
> > post email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In 
> > this case, I knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't 
> > be that lucky in the future.
> >
> > Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
> > email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.
> 
> I don't know about saving posts as emails to self, but SeaMonkey is also 
> a newsreader.  So all those features should be included in the 
> newsreader function of SeaMonkey.
> 
> Actually I just checked and I can click "reply to sender" then edit the 
> address and email it to myself.
> 
> 
> > 2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
> > and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like 
> > why my attempts to sent email never complete.
> >
> >
> > 3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages 
> > and postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such 
> > things as the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a 
> > large high-resolution display.
> 
> When you figure out that one let me know!  I nearly can't read the post 
> subjects or tell when a group has new posts.  I'm getting serious 
> eyestrain.

I've not succeeded.  Not even Zoom works.  Only message content listens to zoom 
or to font changes. It would appear that the developers of Seamonkey are 
unclear on the concept of Zoom - it's not supposed to be selective.

Joe
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Re: New user - with questions

[joegwinn]

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:45:24 PM UTC-4, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> joegw...@comcast.net wrote:
> > I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
> > gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:
> > 
> > 1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have 
> > not figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot 
> > post email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In 
> > this case, I knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't 
> > be that lucky in the future.
> > 
> 
> At the top of the screen, select "Edit"
> Select "Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings"
> Scroll down to the bottom for "Outgoing Server SMTP"
> Click "Add" and then add the details for your mail server.
> 
> On mine, I have "Normal Password" selected. The first time I try sending an 
> email, it asks for my
> password and then saves it so it won't ask for it again. This is somewhat of 
> an over simplification
> but you can Google Seamonkey Mail Setup for more details.

I've tried all this, to no avail.

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Re: Seamonkey Icons

[WaltS48]

On 5/26/17 1:51 PM, MozUser wrote:

Different icons appear there !
What do they mean ?



I have no idea what you are referring to without a screenshot.

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Re: Untrusted connection problem

[notme]

Problem solved! THANK YOU!!

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

notme wrote:

The website http://www.retrobistro.com loads normally on SeaMonkey
2.46 when I am logged into my user account on my wife's laptop. But
when she is logged in on her user account, it gives the warning
messages

"This Connection is Untrusted"
and
"This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible
to add an exception for this certificate."

The sites loads normally on my wife's user account using either
Firefox v53.0.3 or Internet Explorer 11. The laptop is running
Windows 10 Home with all updates installed.

Any help in resolving this issue will be much appreciated. Thanks!


It doesn't seem to use HSTS now, but perhaps it did in the past. I
haven't seen that particular one before, but strange things can happen
if sites use HSTS and then stop and do certain other things (like
redirect their https site to http or let their certificate expire). You
can remove SeaMonkey's record of it having previously used HSTS:
1. Close SeaMonkey
2. Open your profile folder

3. Open SiteSecurityServiceState.txt with a plain text editor (not
Windows Notepad though, as it doesn't recognise the line endings;
Wordpad or Notepad++ should be fine)
4. Find any lines containing retrobistro.com:HSTS and delete them
5. Save the file
6. Start SeaMonkey and try accessing that page again



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Re: export bookmarks as HTML without embedded favicons?

[Felix Miata]

Lee composed on 2017-05-26 14:10 (UTC-0400):

> - start seamonkey
> - delete all your bookmarks
> - import your edited bookmarks.html file

Doesn't keep them totally away. Using a test profile, I deleted all bookmarks
that bookmark manager would permit. Then I closed SM, reenabled automatic import
via user.js, restarted, then deleted the three duplicate folders importing
always creates, then exported HTML. The result was 671,826 bytes vs. the 531,157
byte result of the stripping script, and the 787,654 bytes of the original 
export.

grep ICON= bookmarks.html | wc -l

on the fresh export produced 185. Doing same with the exported file I ran the
stripper against produced 311. So it looks like this exercise may ultimately be
good for some places.sqlite weight loss, but less than ideal.
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