Re: Unsubscribe due to too many e-mails

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Ray_Net wrote:
>> EE wrote on 27/11/2015 19:38:
>>> George wrote:
 Gentlemen,

 Since I signed up for the site I am receiving many e-mails each day
 from people I do not know.

 Please let me know how I can unsubscribe in order to prevent all the
 e-mails.

 Thanking you in advance.

 George Achilles
>>>
>>> Stop putting your correct email address in your posts.  You can set up
>>> a newsgroup account using a fake email address.
>>>
>> He did not post in a newsgroup, he post thru
>> support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org  SO he need to furnish his real
>> address; NO ?
> 
> But the point is that he need not go through the list. He can subscribe
> to the newsgroup as you and I have done and munge his address to defeat
> the spambots.
> 
> But now that they've got his address, he can look forward to a steady
> stream of spam as they sell it to each other.

Most likely, George was complaining about his overabundance of email 
messages from the list, and not true spam. This is a frequent situation 
when people don't know - or remember - how to unsubscribe from it.

He even asked "how I can unsubscribe in order to prevent all the e-mails." 
That info is in every message he gets: 


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Re: When is Bolded *not* Bolded??

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Daniel wrote:

> On 1/11/2015 7:08 PM, Daniel wrote:
> 
>> Hmm! I have "full-screen-api.enabled" set to false *by default* . No
>> mention of "full-screen-api.content-only" at all  and I can do
>> Youtube full screen!!
>>
>> Additionally, I do have "full-screen-api.allow-trusted-requests-only"
>> and "full-screen-api.allow-trusted-requests-only" both set to true *by
>> default* !!
> 
> In a thread labelled "Re: SeaMonkey 2.38 occasionally stops working and
> must be terminated", I posted the above response and, when viewing in
> text mode, one *by default* showed up in Bold and the other *by default*
> showed up just plain text.
> 
> Why??

The second one wrapped to the next line. For the bolding to work, the 
included text and asterisks needs to be on the same line.

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Re: Spell Checker throwing up word not in letter !

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DoctorBill wrote:

> My spell checker is acting like it is from another universe !
> When it runs, I get corrections of words that are not in the letter ! 
> Odd words
> 
> I just sent a letter to my daughter and it showed that "Cambrian" was
> misspelled - nothing even related to Cambrian was in the letter !
> 
> Shouldn't the spell checker underline or highlight the supposedly
> misspelled words ?
> 
> Very Cambrian (strange).maybe even Jurassic !
> 
> DoctorBill SM 2.33.1

Sounds to me as if you are composing in HTML and using the Cambria font, 
and the font name is in the embedded CSS rules.

http://catalog.monotype.com/family/microsoft-corporation/cambria

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Re: user agent confusion

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Carlson, Christine M wrote:

> Please remove me from this email!!!

Christine, this is a newsgroup and a list-server, not exactly "email". 
Only you can remove yourself by unsubscribing. The details are in every 
post you make:

List-Unsubscribe: ,


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.38: white numbers on pink background

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Petr Voralek wrote:

>   In the new version of Seamonkey began to appear white numbers in the
> upper left corner of the Seamonkey windows, menus, and the pull-down
> menus:
> 
> https://al-ribat.6in4.net/ ...

Both Firefox and the SeaMonkey browser told me "This Connection is 
Untrusted" and said the certificate is invalid. It offered to let me store 
an exception, but I chose not to do that. Do you have a trusted place to 
put your images?

(The same happened with the Chromium browser.)

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Re: Fonts: Pixels vs Points

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David E. Ross wrote:

 I have problems with Web pages that are NOT mine.  Here are some
 examples.

I looked at your two examples, in three browsers (SeaMonkey, Firefox, and 
Chromium), and do not see the problems you describe. So I guess I can't be 
of further help.

I will say that setting minimum font sizes can be good .. or bad .. 
depending on the combination of your choices and the page author's choices 
and methods of coding. It's all a big crapshoot, and I never let it bother 
me.  :-)

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Re: Fonts: Pixels vs Points

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David E. Ross wrote:

 Windows 7 SeaMonkey 2.35
 
 On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit  Preferences  Appearance 
 Fonts].  How can I translate between pixels (the settings for fonts in
 SeaMonkey) and points (the font-size unit commonly used with CSS)?

Points are for printing, and should only be in your print style sheet.

 I know this might vary according to the size of my monitor and its
 resolution.
 
 I am having problems with some Web pages where either the font or
 font-size is such that the tops of glyphs (characters) are cut off.  If
 I zoom my text larger, the problem goes away.  I am having trouble
 choosing a minimum font size in pixels for SeaMonkey such that I no
 longer have to zoom.

It's not clear if you are talking about web pages you write, or the pages 
of others. If your own, use percentages for defining font-size.

body { font-size: 100%; }

and scale from there for specific elements such as headings, etc. Here is 
a page I wrote quite awhile ago that still applies:

http://tekrider.net/html/fontsize.php

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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

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Ray_Net wrote:

 I just prefer:
 Start typing in the URL bar and when the target URL shows move highlight
 to it, and press the delete key.

Thank you for confirming that you tried this method, and that it works for 
you.

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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

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Ray_Net wrote:

 Right-click doesnot not show a delete option, the action just jump and
 display that page.
 BUT 
 Start typing in the URL bar and when the target URL shows move highlight
 to it, and press the delete key
 This is working now, at the second try, because at the first try... I
 badly understand select it instead of moving the highlight

Good news then. Easy to do, and no extensions or messing in data files is 
necessary.

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Re: OT NT versions Re: Windows 10

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NoOp wrote:

 On 7/26/2015 10:35 PM, Daniel wrote:
 
 Win 8.1 is NT 6.3 ... Win 10 is NT 10.0!  Did Win9 gobble up all the
 intermediate NT versions??
 
 Yes.

So the story goes, there is a lot of active legacy version-checking 
code, both from Microsoft and from third-party vendors, that searches the 
Registry for occurrences of the string Windows 9 while looking for 
versions Windows 95 and Windows 98. Naturally, Windows 9 would fit that 
parameter, so Microsoft simply skipped it and moved straight to 10.

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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

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Jonathan N. Little wrote:

 A Williams wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 7/27/2015 8:08 AM, A Williams wrote:
 I have discovered another way of nuking this information:
 (in the Browser) Go - History  and then delete any line(s) you don't
 want.  You will note that the list is searchable.

 I do not think that works.  I have entries in my address area (URL
 bar)
 that are NOT in my history.  On the history window, I set [View 
 Group by  None] and sorted by URI.

 I just tried it on this machine.  It worked, exactly as I had hoped.
 Step 1 was to search for the link using part of the url Step 2 was to
 delete it from History
 After that it was no longer offered to me in the location bar.
 
 BTW Beauregard's method also works. Start typing in the URL bar and when
 the target URL shows move highlight to it, and press the delete key or
 right-click  Delete. Gone!

Thanks, Jonathan. I noted that A Williams replied to me and said it didn't 
work.  :-)  I've been waiting for notme to report that he's tried it. 
(It's *always* worked for me, in any Mozilla browser.)

Downarrow to offending URL (selects it) . Press Delete key.

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Re: Removing a site from location bar history

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notme wrote:

 I misspelled a website address and ended up on a real site that is of no
 interest to me. Now every time I start to enter the address of the site
 I want, this misspelled site shows up at the top of the list in the
 location bar.

What happens if you scroll to, and highlight, the unwanted link in the 
dropdown and press your Delete key?

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Re: Is it possible to get Composer only, or do you need to use SeaMonkey to use it?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 you can put that definition in the style sheet and just code font
 style=whatever.../style.

Just one minor correction to your otherwise excellent post. The above 
would be:

   p class=whatever.../p

Class, instead of style, and apply it to the HTML elements instead of any 
font tags, which are completely unnecessary. When I first learned of CSS 
around 1998 I think, I cheered and jumped for joy. Sooo much easier.  :-)

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Re: Is it possible to get Composer only, or do you need to use SeaMonkey to use it?

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stango wrote:

 stango wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 stango wrote:
 You are better off using the 'outdated' Composer than you are using
 Blue Griffon.

 Composer is truly WYSIWYG while Blue Griffon is a 'hack'!

 Perhaps Composer is okay for your web site, but authors wishing to use
 new technologies such as html5 and CSS will be better served with
 BlueGriffon.

 HTML is HTML no matter the version and with a text editor and a little
 skill you can support any 'modern' twists that it ma take.

That's not quite true. Composer doesn't support HTML *5* nor CSS, and as I 
remember, you can't even specify a modern DOCTYPE. I noticed your site 
doesn't use modern CSS at all. Do you know what CSS is?

 Another thing to consider is cross browser operation. The following is
 taken from:

That's irrelevant to this discussion so far. Bluefish isn't related to 
Composer or BlueGriffon at all. It is an entirely different kind of tool. 
(I know; I use Bluefish.)

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Re: Is it possible to get Composer only, or do you need to use SeaMonkey to use it?

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stango wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 That's irrelevant to this discussion so far. Bluefish isn't related to
 Composer or BlueGriffon at all. It is an entirely different kind of
 tool. (I know; I use Bluefish.)

 If you looked at my web site first glance you would not be able to tell
 what I used to create it and most people will not care. Because I know
 how to write code I decided that I do not need CSS to create it.

It was quite easy to tell what you used.  :-)
meta name=GENERATOR content=Mozilla/4.79 [en] (WinNT; U) [Netscape]

 Your are all hooked up on what Composer will not do for you instead of
 learning how to write HTML code yourself. With a book and a text editor
 you can write code to support any function you need.

Sorry, but you are wrong. I have been hand-coding web sites since 1997. No 
generators. No WYSIWYG tools. Just an editor (but a good one). 

 To answer your question, yes I know what CSS is, yes I know what HTML5
 is and discovered that I do not need either to build a web site that
 conveys exactly what I want it to without a lot of gimmicky code which
 adds no value to me or to the person that visits my site.

Sure, your 1990s code may work just fine for you. In fact, your site is 
okay. No flashy annoying stuff (except for the waving flags). I think it's 
a reasonably nice site .. just that old style may not meet the needs of 
the OP.

You could consider using includes so your menu is on every page, which 
would eliminate having to return to the home page to find another. That 
would be a nice update.

 To steer back to the original point of the discussion, Composer is far
 easier to use and create WYSIWYG HTML pages than Blue Griffon is.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

 This is my last comment on this subject..

Then this shall be mine as well.

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Re: Is it possible to get Composer only, or do you need to use SeaMonkey to use it?

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warwolfprime wrote:

 I am curious as to whether or not the Composer part of SeaMonkey is
 available as a stand alone piece of software,

The Composer is seriously out-of-date, and hasn't been touched in well 
over a decade. No, it's not available separately. You would do better to 
get and install the latest iteration. Since Mozilla abandoned Composer, it 
has been picked up and since been called NVu, KompoZer, and now 
BlueGriffon. Download here:  http://bluegriffon.org/

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueGriffon

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Re: Is it possible to get Composer only, or do you need to use SeaMonkey to use it?

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stango wrote:

 You are better off using the 'outdated' Composer than you are using Blue
 Griffon.
 
 Composer is truly WYSIWYG while Blue Griffon is a 'hack'!

Perhaps Composer is okay for your web site, but authors wishing to use new 
technologies such as html5 and CSS will be better served with BlueGriffon.

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Re: Limit to the number of email addresses for one outgoing email

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c2baird wrote:

 Can I send one email to 500 addresses?  Or what is the limit?

You don't give any details about how you want to send this email. Since 
you posted to the SeaMonkey newsgroup and you have a charter.net email 
address, I'll assume you want to use it with your ISP's email service.

They probably have a limit of addresses, to combat spammers. The last time 
I used an ISP's email services, its limit was 25 recipients per email.

In any case, do *not* place all the addresses in the TO field. Put them in 
the BCC field (Blind Carbon Copy) in order to preserve their privacy.

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Re: All of a sudden, my tabs are loading right to left, instead of left to right.

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Daniel wrote:

 And why are you posting to a SeaMonkey news group, presumably about a
 SeaMonkey problem, with Google Chrome??

We don't know what browser he is using. He posted via Google Groups, and 
could be using any browser.  User-Agent: G2/1.0 

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Re: un-subscribe

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Joe Grey wrote:

 Please un-subscribe me joe4...@gmail.com joe4...@onlyinternet.net

Your unsubscribe message may not work, as you've misspelled the word in 
the Subject line. The instruction is in every one of your headers:

List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
subject=unsubscribe

In other words, no hyphen in the word, and you have to email it to:

support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org

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Re: unsubscibe

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Joe Grey wrote:

 unsubscribe

You've corrected the spelling, but you have still emailed it to the wrong 
address.

support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org

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Re: Rookie Problem with webpg design

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Ken Drabinsky wrote:

 Just started working on SeaMonkey Composer and can't figure out how to
 add more than one:table at the same Horizontal level. it seems to cancel
 out in a grid lock. What's the secret I am missing here.?? i.e. tables
 lock up and unable to physically move around on the page.

Ken, the Composer is very old and hasn't been updated in more than a 
decade. You might have better luck with the current iteration. It's a 
stand-alone program called BlueGriffon (which itself is now almost two 
years old). Get it here:  http://bluegriffon.org/

The chain of development has been:
Composer  NVu  KompoZer  BlueGriffon -- each new interation succeeding 
the last.

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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

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Béèm wrote:

 EE wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 Ronnie wrote on 17/03/2015 10:15:
 And foxes aren't on fire either. It's a fun play on the word, it's
 not meant to be l literal translation like the current logo is, good
 grief.

 The difference between a Fox and a Fox on a Fire is less than the
 difference between a Seamonkey and a Monkey.

 A firefox is actually a red panda, although the logo for Firefox has a
 red fox.  A seamonkey is a brine shrimp.

 And before release 1.0 it was Mozilla Firebird.

And before release 0.something it was Mozilla Phoenix.

However, both the Firebird name and the Phoenix name had copyright issues, 
so someone chose Firefox (I suspect after a lot more research g).

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Re: Sent Folder

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Bo1953 wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I have a challenge where the 'Sent' folder does NOT appear for several
 email accounts in SM 2.32.1 using W 8.1.
 What have I done incorrectly for this to happen?

Look in your account settings and see where you have designated Sent 
messages to be stored. It will be under Copies  Folders. You may have 
selected a different account, or Local Folders, for your Sent messages.
 
 Shall I reinstall SM 2.32.1?

No.

 ---
 This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
 http://www.avast.com

Please see your Avast settings to remove that spam message. Thanks.

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Re: Mark All Groups As Read

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Ronnie wrote:

 Whats gravity?

Gravity is an excellent newsreader for Windows. If you were to use it to 
access these groups, you would not have to subscribe to the email list 
server.  http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

But since you aren't using Windows, you could look into various Linux 
newsreaders, such as the Pan I am using.  http://pan.rebelbase.com/

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Re: Mark All Groups As Read

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Ronnie wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Ronnie wrote:
 Whats gravity?

 Gravity is an excellent newsreader for Windows. If you were to use it
 to access these groups, you would not have to subscribe to the email
 list server.  http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/

 But since you aren't using Windows, you could look into various Linux
 newsreaders, such as the Pan I am using.  http://pan.rebelbase.com/

 There is also liferea
 
 http://lzone.de/liferea/

That is not a Usenet newsreader. 

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Re: SeaMonkey more secure than Firefox

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 Philip Chee wrote:
 Paul Bergsagel wrote:
 Surprisingly SeaMonkey has been rated as more secure than Firefox

 Please scroll down to the second table:

 http://www.zdnet.com/article/mac-os-x-is-the-most-vulnerable-os-
claims-security-firm/

 Thank you SeaMonkey developers!!!

 I find this rather improbable since SeaMonkey builds off the same
 Gecko/Toolkit code as Firefox and at the most I would expect a
 difference or +/- 1

 Hence I would treat the other claims in that report with a bucket of
 sodium chloride.
 
 Could be true depending on the versions tested, which isn't clear from
 the table. If they tested a year-old version of FF vs. a current version
 of SM, there would be a large discrepancy. Unfortunately, the article
 doesn't link to the original study.

The original article - see link below - appears to be written by an 
anonymous writer for Microsoft Subnet, An independent Microsoft 
community so naturally Windows is going to fare better. I think it is a 
sham, at least the operating system portion of the article.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2887240/microsoft-subnet/apple-linux-
not-windows-most-vulnerable-operating-systems-in-2014-ie-wins-worst-
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Re: OT malware remedy

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David E. Ross wrote:

 ...  Spammers change their E-mail accounts frequently, often before
 their ISPs receive complaints.

Spammers don't *have* ISPs. Not for sending spam...

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Re: OT malware remedy

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William wrote:

 I'm in the USA.  I have been receiving emails, supposedly from FedEx,
 saying that there is a problem with a shipment to me and asking me to
 open the attached shipping label, which is a compressed file.  My ISP
 marks these as spam, but sends them to me, which is consistent with what
 I have asked them to do.  I suspect this is malware, because I am not
 expecting any shipments, and the shipment number they put in the header
 draws nothing when I go to the FedEx site to trace the shipment.
 
 In the past, I have discarded these, or sent them to my ISP who probably
 discards them.  But the frequency is increasing and I am thinking that
 there must be some law enforcement agency that can deal with these
 knaves.  Our city police have no such office, and apparently are not
 equipped to deal with this.
 
 Does any one know of a place these can be sent that would be interested
 in investigating and prosecuting?

The attachment contains malware that infects Windows computers.

Have you been marking them as Junk and having them sent to the Junk 
folder? SeaMonkey should soon learn to do that for you. Also mark the 
Properties / Retention Policy of the Junk folder to Delete messages more 
than [  3] days old. This makes it maintain itself.

That's about all you can do. Your city police won't be interested in 
prosecuting a hacker in Romania.

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Re: OT malware remedy

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Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

 David H. Durgee wrote:
Per FedEx web site:

If you have received a fraudulent e-mail that claims to be from FedEx,
you can report it by forwarding it to ab...@fedex.com.
 
 I'll be damned. My hunch is if they even act on it they'll likely just
 contact the hosting company.

The trouble with that statement is: there is no hosting company. These 
emails come mostly from trojanized users' computers. There is little that 
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Re: OT malware remedy

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Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
 David H. Durgee wrote:
Per FedEx web site:

If you have received a fraudulent e-mail that claims to be from FedEx,
you can report it by forwarding it to ab...@fedex.com.
 
 I'll be damned. My hunch is if they even act on it they'll likely just
 contact the hosting company.

The trouble with that statement is: there is no hosting company. These
emails come mostly from trojanized users' computers. There is little
that can be done.
 
 No, that's wrong. I get these FedEx/Facebook/insert you bank here
 phishing mails too. Some with malware at the end of a link, some with
 just a redirect. But always to some poor sucker's server. They are
 mostly on hacked domains/servers who do have hosting providers you can
 contact and report the links to and have them removed. I do this at
 least once or twice a week.

The emails the OP is talking about do not have links to anyone's server. 
The malware payload is in the attached zip file. There is nobody to 
contact.

See where William said:  ..asking me to open the attached shipping label, 
which is a compressed file.  It is, and if you extract the .exe file 
inside and send it to Virustotal.com, you'd see it is a trojan. No contact 
with any hacked domain is required to infect yourself.

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Re: Spell button greyed when you are in the subject (WAS too long)

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Ray_Net wrote:

 Is submitting a bug a good idea ?

It is not a bug. It is the lack of a feature.

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Re: Spell correction impossible in the subject part of a mail

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Ray_Net wrote:

 When i do a spell error in the body of a mail - the bad word is
 underlined with red characters (~) and i can select the word then click
 spell to be able to correct the bad word.
 If I don't select a word, all the bad word are correctable by the spell
 mecanism.
 
 When i do a spell error in the subject of a mail - the bad word is
 underlined with red characters (~) and this all what I experience.
 Impossible to correct a bad word in the subject ...
 Why is the Spell facility not completely implemented ?

What happens when you right-click on the bad word?  (in the body or the 
subject)

What did it do with mecanism?

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Re: Question about Composer

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Mr. Ed wrote:

 On 2/14/2015 4:56 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 jeff.nee...@gmail.com wrote on 14/02/2015 19:59:
 Hi.  Is anyone aware of a word count facility that can be added to
 Composer?
 It would be really helpful.  Many thanks again.
 Composer is just maintained. There will be no enhancement.
 You should use http://bluegriffon.org/
 
 Looks like bluegriffon hasn't been changed in two years.
 Hard to believe that it was perfected that long ago.

BlueGriffon is still at least a dozen years newer than Composer.

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Re: Buttons in websites not displaying properly.

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Tom S. wrote:

 G Tod said:
 By the way, how do you guys find these errors on websites?
 Is it a complicated thing?

 No. Just use http://validator.w3.org . There are book-marklets available
 to auto-load the page.

The above is for HTML errors. Additionally, for CSS styling errors, use:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

That's how David found the 174 CSS errors on your mytoba page.

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Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.

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Ray_Net wrote:

 Ant wrote on 26/01/2015 05:52:
 On 1/25/2015 2:07 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 Why did you use plain text for composing mail ?

 Because I am old school, and don't care for the fancy formattings and
 stuff. Also, HTML adds file sizes to some slow Internet contacts like
 those with still with dial-up modems.

Sending email as HTML will increase the byte size by 2 to 4 times the 
number of bytes, especially if you send both HTML and Plain Text. For 
everyone, not just dial-up users.  :-)

 I told you that you will send your html mail in plain text,

You cannot send *HTML* mail in plain text. The two formats are apples 
and oranges.

 so the size
 of your mail will be 2 characters less than your plain-text mail
 (because there is no  in your html mail sent in pure plain text.

You have overlooked all the HTML formatting and codes that make up the 
composition of an HTML email. These codes, fonts, colors, etc will triple 
or quadruple the size of the document.

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Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.

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Ray_Net wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 I told you that you will send your html mail in plain text,
 You cannot send *HTML* mail in plain text. The two formats are apples
 and oranges.

 You don't understand what i said

I understood what you wrote, where you did _not_ include:

  but at the send time, I will send it  with the option
 Send in Plain Text Only...

.. which changes everything.

 You can analyze my reply to see if the size is increased 

All I see is text in my newsreader, in the font and size of my choosing.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

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PhillipJones wrote:

 and They have Decide to rename the new system System 10 to compete with
 Mac OSX.10.10.1 (Yosemite).

No, that is not correct. Microsoft had to skip Windows *9* because, in 
programming code where the version is searched, the Windows 95 and 98 
versions would report positive.

if string found Windows 9
   do [something]
else ...

They didn't discover this glitch until there was an alpha release of 9, 
which was promptly dropped in favor of 10.  (One wonders if this will 
have a problem with Windows 1) 

Windows versions are not called using the word System.

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Re: Cross posting

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Rufus wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 [snippage]
 just like I don't care about the difference between Webkit and Gekko;

 Webkit and Gekko are both browser engines, like Ford and Chevrolet are
 both cars. E-mail and News would be more like sedans and motorcycles.
 They both have wheels, but are quite dissimilar.

 ...yes, but they all drive on the same road and follow the same rules,
 in general.

No, they do not. The only similarity/commonality is they both use the same 
wire leaving your house. Once they get to a server somewhere, they become 
completely different. Mail is not News. News is not Mail.

 I only care that what I get functions as advertised.  The original
 question was about how the cross postings *work*, and/or why they
 weren't working...just observation/illustration.

 Crossposts work because of the function of the news-server software.

 ...again - creature comforts as far as how one might implement
 addressing in their reader interface.  One could write one that
 behaves/looks *just* like a mail client and still does what it needs to
 do.

Those of us who are familiar with newsgroups and Usenet don't really need 
or want a client that looks like an email program. In fact, it shouldn't, 
due to the many differences between mail vs. news.

I have three newsreaders installed here and none of them look like an 
email client. (This is not counting SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.)

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Re: Cross posting

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Rufus wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 I agree - you can *send* to a non-subscribed NG (it's just an
 e-mail),

 No, you aren't sending an e-mail. You are sending a news post.

 I just replied/cross posted another Reply to the Test group, which I
 do *not* subscribe to...and I bet it will show up there...

 Yes, it did, I suppose. My newsreader automatically marks a post as
 read in other groups after I'd read it in one.

 Will SM do that?  How do you do that?..

No. The Mozilla products (SeaMonkey and Thunderbird) are not full-fledged 
newsreaders, and lack a lot of capability of real dedicated newsreaders. 
In my Pan, it just happens.

 It may not be a genuine e-mail, but it seems to act like one as far
 as addressing goes.  So that's how I handle them.

 What is so hard for you about calling it what it is? I.E. not an
 e-mail,
 but a post. By not using the correct nomenclature, you serve to confuse
 others who may read your posts.

 I guess I'm saying I care more about how it works than what it's
 called...

I'm just hoping you won't want to confuse others by your statements.

 just like I don't care about the difference between Webkit and
 Gekko;

Webkit and Gekko are both browser engines, like Ford and Chevrolet are 
both cars. E-mail and News would be more like sedans and motorcycles. They 
both have wheels, but are quite dissimilar.

 I only care that what I get functions as advertised.  The
 original question was about how the cross postings *work*, and/or why
 they weren't working...just observation/illustration.

Crossposts work because of the function of the news-server software.

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Re: Cross posting

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Rufus wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 I agree - you can *send* to a non-subscribed NG (it's just an e-mail),

 No, you aren't sending an e-mail. You are sending a news post.

 I just replied/cross posted another Reply to the Test group, which I do
 *not* subscribe to...and I bet it will show up there...

Yes, it did, I suppose. My newsreader automatically marks a post as read 
in other groups after I'd read it in one.

 It may not be a genuine e-mail, but it seems to act like one as far as
 addressing goes.  So that's how I handle them.

What is so hard for you about calling it what it is? I.E. not an e-mail, 
but a post. By not using the correct nomenclature, you serve to confuse 
others who may read your posts.

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Re: Cross posting

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Rufus wrote:

 I agree - you can *send* to a non-subscribed NG (it's just an e-mail),

No, you aren't sending an e-mail. You are sending a news post.

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Re: Too many messages

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Mark DeWolf wrote:

 I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m
 receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing
 about.  Please remove me from any list I may be on.

Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make.

List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
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If you have subscribed to multiple support groups, you will have to do the 
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Re: Too many messages

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WaltS48 wrote:

 Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Mark DeWolf wrote:
 I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m
 receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing
 about.  Please remove me from any list I may be on.

 Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you
 make.

 List-Unsubscribe:
 https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
 mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
 subject=unsubscribe

 If you have subscribed to multiple support groups, you will have to do
 the unsubscribe step for each one.

 Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP
 and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.
 
 One wonders what Mark was looking for by subscribing to the SeaMonkey
 support mailing list. I wouldn't exactly know what e-mail service means.

Since he receives (and sends) to the group via the email list-serv, I 
figure that he assumes the group is only accessible via email messages. A 
lot of people don't realize there are three ways of posting:  email, 
Google Groups, and newsreader news posts.

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Re: A question

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Mark DeWolf wrote:

 Is there a way in Sea Monkey to import an entire site and work on it one
 page at a time?

What exactly do you mean when you say work on it? Do you want to garner 
the source code? (That would be impossible.)

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Re: A question

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Ray Davison wrote:

 Mark DeWolf wrote:
 Is there a way in Sea Monkey to import an entire site and work on it
 one page at a time?

 If you are referring to a page that calls other pages, and you just want
 to read them at your leisure while you are off-line, then File  Save
 page as, gets the first page as a file and the other pages in a
 sub-directory, which the first page will call.

My recollection is that the process you describe will only get the one 
page you are viewing, with the HTML in the directory where you save it, 
and supporting files for that one page (images, CSS, etc) in the 
subdirectory. It won't grab an entire site.

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Re: Cache Expires 1969?

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Larry S. wrote:

 What is the significance of the Expires date in About:Cache? Many of
 them show 12-31-69.

The date is significant as Day Zero of the Unix epoch. What it has to do 
with the cache, I don't know. Perhaps it means never expires.

See:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time

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Re: Question

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Lee wrote:

 Jacksonville, Fl is where I live but it is showing Richardson TX when I
 connect to Yahoo.com with Sea Monkey Browser

Aha. http://yahoo.com/ ... Yes, there is an IP address geo-locater at that 
site for your weather and possibly other things as well. It's working for 
me, showing a town near where I live in New York State.

As Paul said, clear your cache and yahoo cookies and try again. You could 
also try a different browser and see how it does.

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Re: Earthlink Home page Loading Incorrectly

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 Larry H wrote:
 Am using Seamonkey V2.31 on a windows 7 pc. When I launch my home page
 it loads badly misaligned. Many things are loaded page left. Other
 items load on top of each other! If I click reload the page does load
 correctly. This happens frequently.
 
 If reloading solves it, it's probably a cranky connection.

It sounds to me more like he isn't loading the CSS file the first time. 
The statement loaded page left supports that. Can't say why, though; 
maybe if he gave a link to the page, it would become evident.

I have run into a few sites like that in the past.

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Re: Un-Subsribe

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Daniel wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 How you do that is listed in every email you receive. No one else can
 do it for you. (Be sure to spell unsubscribe correctly.)

 but, Beau, didn't you notice??

I did!  That's why I said be sure to spell .. correctly.   :-)

 Judy apparently wants to Un-Subsribe, not Un-Subscribe!! ;-P
 
 But, yes, why don't people RTFI?!?! :-)

Don't know. We see the info in all posts from the email users. Maybe it is 
in a footer they disregard.

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Re: Un-Subsribe

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Judy Dolby wrote:

 [blank]

How you do that is listed in every email you receive. No one else can do 
it for you. (Be sure to spell unsubscribe correctly.)

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Re: Printing - SeaMoney only prints first page

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NoOp wrote:

 Printing the following web page:
 
 http://www.familystylewithchefjeff.com/#!recipes/ckwa
 
 results in only the first page being printed. Can someone please
 confirm?

I would not be too quick to file a bug report about your browser. That is 
a *horrible* page! I see it fail with several different browsers, at least 
four of them. Tell Chef Jeff about the problem instead of Mozilla...

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Re: Printing - SeaMoney only prints first page

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NoOp wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 Printing the following web page:
 
 http://www.familystylewithchefjeff.com/#!recipes/ckwa
 
 results in only the first page being printed. Can someone please
 confirm?
 
 I would not be too quick to file a bug report about your browser. That
 is a *horrible* page! I see it fail with several different browsers, at
 least four of them. Tell Chef Jeff about the problem instead of
 Mozilla...
 
 Regardless... perhaps you missed: Printing the same page with Google
 Chromium and Opera results in correctly printing of all 5 pages. That's
 Chromium and Opera in both Windows and Linux.

No, I did not miss your comments. I reported my own experience. Regardless 
of what you decide to do, it is still a horribly designed page - that 
fails in one way or another in multiple browsers of mine.

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Re: Printing - SeaMoney only prints first page

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Lemuel Johnson wrote:

 W3BNR wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 No, I did not miss your comments. I reported my own experience.
 Regardless of what you decide to do, it is still a horribly designed
 page - that fails in one way or another in multiple browsers of mine.

 I wonder what wysiwyg conposer they used for the site.  It is badly
 designed and a verification at W3C shows 10 errors in HLTM5.  That
 means it probably will work in M$IE. I don't use IE so I can't check
 out my thoughts on that.

I too looked at the W3C errors at only ten. That is probably because there 
is very little HTML to make an error with. There is, however, a ton of 
JavaScript. 

 Looks like a WIX site.  Proof again that making it easy doesn't make it
 good.

Heh. I've seen their TV ads. No mention of works with any browser. I'd 
still be reluctant to blame SeaMonkey/Firefox for the problems.

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Re: Maps: Andry Violin

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Desiree wrote:

 andry violin wrote:
 [snip personal email]

 Sent from Windows Mail

 How come this post is dated December 1, 2014?  It's November 27, 2014.

Sender's computer set to wrong date. It was actually sent:
Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:24:50 -0600

It was obviously a personal email sent to five addresses including 
Amazon.com and others, and the SeaMonkey mailing list address.

Why are you all quoting the personal email?

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Re: Web Editor

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John Wolf wrote:

 Its lacking in many areas including the ability to use style sheets.
 Anyone know when Mozilla will finally upgrade their web editor?

The answer is never. The Composer has been dead for a very long time.

I do believe you have been advised this in the past, and recommended that 
you switch to BlueGriffon, which may be still in development. Your web 
site is simple enough that it will suffice for your needs.

Better yet, (once again) learn how to write HTML and use a product such as 
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Re: Web Editor

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John Wolf wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 John Wolf wrote:
 Its lacking in many areas including the ability to use style sheets.
 Anyone know when Mozilla will finally upgrade their web editor?

 The answer is never. The Composer has been dead for a very long time.

 I do believe you have been advised this in the past, and recommended
 that you switch to BlueGriffon, which may be still in development. Your
 web site is simple enough that it will suffice for your needs.

 Better yet, (once again) learn how to write HTML and use a product such
 as BlueFish for your needs.

 I use Kompozer and it supports style sheets. However sometimes I wish I
 could use Sea Monkey especially since Blue Griffin requires a charge for
 a CSS editor, and Kompozer has not been updated in 4 years. Oh well...

KompoZer is almost as dead as Composer (and NVu as well, another fork). 

CSS editor? Don't you have Notepad? It *is* just text. You've had 
instruction on CSS in the past as well.

http://htmldog.com/guides/css/

I'd also say that since your site is written in old-style HTML (nothing 
modern), you might just as well continue to use the old KompoZer.

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

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stan pierce wrote:

 Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do I
 know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

JavaScript comes with/within the browser. You don't need to install 
anything else. Unless you mean you want to install something completely 
separate from SeaMonkey. Please be more specific.

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Re: Can't install JavaScript on Windows 7

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stan pierce wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 stan pierce wrote:
 Is there some very straightforward way to install JavaScript.  How do
 I know if I should use 32 or 64 bit. My machine is a 64 bit machine.

 JavaScript comes with/within the browser. You don't need to install
 anything else. Unless you mean you want to install something completely
 separate from SeaMonkey. Please be more specific.
 
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 How do I turn off the spam message? I can't find it.
 
 I keep getting notices that there are Java updates, but none of the
 updates work. The message I get is: The feature you are trying to use is
 on a network resource that is unavailable.  Try again or enter an
 alternate path to a folder containing the installation package
 jre1.7.0_60-c.msi in box below.

Aha. You are confusing Java and JavaScript. They are two completely 
different things. For the most part, none of us need Java on our computers 
because in the main, it has too many security holes. I'll leave it to 
others to describe. I got rid of Java years ago.

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of the above spam. Thanks for your consideration. It's caused by your 
recently updated version, and it also has a malformed sig delimiter which 
causes it to be quoted by the unwary.

From the avast UI  Settings  Active Protection  Mail Shield  Settings
(gear icon)  Behavior - General section  Uncheck Insert note into
clean message (outgoing).

You also do not need to scan outgoing or incoming email or news posts.
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

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Re: To Ed Mullen

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Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

Ed,

Your snip address bounces. I would like to compare my
EaseUS experience with you. Please reply directly to me, thanks.

Jay O'Brien snip
 
 Never, EVER post your real email to Usenet. Even on these news servers,
 spammers trawl for addresses to spam.

That's probably a good idea .. so why did you RE-post them? If Ed and Jay 
decide to cancel their posts, you should as well.

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Re: pictures in SeaMonkey?

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David E. Ross wrote:

 Bryan Roache wrote:
 Hi, how do I turn off pictures in SeaMonkey browser from being loaded?
 .
 If you want to permit images from certain domains, do that via the Data
 Manager.  Alterantively, this can be done much more simply if you have
 the PrefBar extension installed.  In either case, if you need further
 instructions, reply here.
 
 Note:  PrefBar also provides a quick way to switch the radio buttons for
 your image policy.

Link to the PrefBar extension:  http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/

I've been using it with all Mozilla browsers for eons. All that is 
required to block all images from view is to untick the [ ] Images 
checkbox. Many other choices as well. For example, when I encounter one of 
those sites that thinks nearly invisible light-gray-text-on-white is cute, 
I just uncheck the [ ] Colors checkbox.

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Re: Click here to always load remote content from

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Larry wrote:

 I am having the same problem and agree with Janine's reasons for wanting
 this feature.  I hope it gets fixed ASAP or a work around exists.

I see your point. Looking back, I see that Janine did not mention in the 
OP that all incoming mail from a /particular sender/ was what was desired.

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Re: Click here to always load remote content from

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Janine Starykowicz wrote:

 I can't set emails to always show remote content anymore, think this
 started in SM 29. Before it wouldn't even pop up the contact form. Now
 after 29.1 it pops up, but after I close the form nothing happens. I
 have to click show remote which only works on that particular email.

I personally would think you'd prefer the each email approach, since a 
great majority of remote content comes from spammers and other companies 
that want to track you. Please don't be caught up by an option change 
designed for your online safety.

Did Janine read this email? Yes. Good, her address is valid so let's 
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Re: Images in SeaMonkey makes images always too big.

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Daniel wrote:

 Does anyone know how well MS Word might compose an HTML file, or, to put
 it another way, how clean is a HTML file written in MS Word??

Back in the day, MS Word was always listed as a terrible web page 
generator, coming in behind only MS Publisher and MS Excel for the honors 
of worst possible tool. I doubt it has improved. All those MS products 
fill the HTML with bloated proprietary junk so they can restore the 
document to their native format. 

In other words, use something else.

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Re: Cannot delete Google Chrome

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Mort wrote:

 Having exhausted all other modalities, I took a chance and deleted Avast,

You can't just delete programs and applications in Windows. You must 
*uninstall* them - especially for heavily-OS-involved software like anti-
virus programs. You've probably corrupted your registry by now.

 then downloaded it again while carefully unchecking the 2 Chrome boxes.
 Nevertheless, the Chrome files either returned or stayed,as they are
 still there. Now attempts at deletion lead to access denied. It seems,
 from the file names, that the Avast and Chrome files are intertwined.

You need to find a Chrome forum and/or the Avast support groups, not this 
SeaMonkey forum.

 I give up,.

There ya go...

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Re: Cannot delete Google Chrome

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David E. Ross wrote:

 Mort wrote:
 Updating Avast inadvertently downloaded Google Chrome to my H.D.,
 (running Windows XP, SP-3). Now, I cannot delete it. It does not show
 up on the list of programs  in control panel's section on programs, yet
 it is there with a H.D. search. Each time that I attempt toa delete it,
 I get a message on screen that it cannot be deleted.
 
 How can I actually delete it from my H.D.?
 Any help will be appreciated.

 Try Eraser from http://eraser.heidi.ie/.  You might have to accept
 Eraser's option to erase on the next bootup.
 
 If the file is locked, try Unlocker from
 http://www.emptyloop.com/unlocker/.  If Unlocker determines that the
 file is not locked after all, it gives you the option to delete it.

It is never a good idea, in Windows, to remove a program by deleting it 
from the drive. You never know what hooks will be left, what registry crap 
there is, and even if the missing file could prevent booting up next time.

I don't know the answer (I don't use Windows), but tread lightly with this 
delete stuff.

Mort, you should find a Chrome newsgroup or forum to ask your question, 
not the SeaMonkey newsgroup.

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Re: Seamonkey - Email - Reply button only quotes text from email until point where text becomes grey - a BUG or deliberate ?

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Ben wrote:

 html
   head
 meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8
   /head
   body smarttemplateinserted=true bgcolor=#FF text=#00
 div id=smartTemplate4-template/div
 I have found that if you press the 'Reply' button in seamonkeys
 email client, that IF thebr
 email that your trying to quote has ANY grey text (very light
 coloured), then only text frombr
 the beginning of the email up UNTIL the text turns grey is selected
 to be quoted back in yourbr
 'Reply' email.br
 br
 Is this a Bug or Deliberate ?br
 br
  
   /body
 /html

You most likely have encountered a signature delimiter - possibly 
misplaced. This delimiter consists of two dashes and a space, on a line by 
itself. Like this: --   See mine below. My sig, below it, is probably 
displayed in grey text.

Please write only in Plain Text. Thanks for your consideration.

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Re: User-agent line not appearing in email

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 7/7/2014 1:03 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 First, examine the source of an affected email and look there for the
 line with the user-agent. The show us this line.

 Windows 7 (x64)
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/24.6.0
 
 On the post to which I'm replying, this information appears in your
 message header as follows:
 
 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/24.6.0
 
 There is no mention of Windows 7 or x64, though of course that info
 is present in other forms.

His Windows NT 5.1 is XP.  

Vista is 6.0, Windows 7 is 6.1, 8 is 6.2 and 8.1 is 6.3. Isn't that fun?

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Re: SM Email is converting all attachments to winmail.dat

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Steven Silvera wrote:

 html
   head
 
 meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8
   /head
   body bgcolor=#FF text=#00
 font face=Trebuchet MSHow do I correct this?br
 /font
   /body
 /html

Are all these attachments being sent by Microsoft Outlook users? That's 
usually the cause, not your program.

Please post in Plain Text instead of HTML.

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Re: Importance of my own profile?

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Mort wrote:

 A tech service transferred files from my old Win XP to my new Win 7 Pro.
 In so doing, my personal profile in XP was corrupted. It will only start
 and function in default profile. The store geek said that I do not need
 my personal profile, and that the default one works fine. My cruising
 the net suggests otherwise, but was not clear.

Your experience mimics that of a friend of mine who upgraded computers 
from an old XP to Win7 a year or so ago. (He's 700 miles away.) I warned 
him to be sure his local geek installed Thunderbird and Firefox and 
copied the profiles to the new box, even gave him detailed instructions. 
Nope, not even close. The guy copied over some Microsoft stuff and 
pictures, but that was all. Gone forever.

 Is it important that I get my personal profile corrected, or is it OK to
 just work with a default profile?

If .. IF .. you still have the old hard drive and can access it, you can 
copy the *contents* of your old profile into the main directory of the 
new, virgin one. Otherwise, you will have to recreate all accounts and 
things from scratch.

Read up on MozBackup.

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Re: Filters

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Roger Fink wrote:

 There is an annoying amount of spam in the Mozilla support groups I
 check from time to time (SM, FF  TB), and the filters I set up seem to
 do absolutely nothing.

What are you filtering on?  If you set a filter for the spammer's email 
address, that won't work because he keeps changing them.

The ol' Mark One Eyeball works for me. Just ignore them.

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Re: Filters

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Roger Fink wrote:

 The Shagnasty Eyeball Concept is starting to look good.

It's easy to do. If you download headers and see a batch of Subject lines 
written in Italian and all upper-case, just glaze over the eye and move on 
to the next message. Just don't click the spam to download the hundreds of 
lines of whatever is in the body of the message. I've never seen a single 
one of them.

By tomorrow, it will be an automatic reaction. Think of all the time you 
will save trying to write filters.  :-)

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Re: Need help unsubscribing from the list. Corrected.

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bryan roache wrote:

 H ello all, I need your help unsubscribing. I cannot seem to be able 
to
 unsubscribe via the browser. Does anyone know what the email address for
 unsubscribing is?

It's listed right in the headers of your post.

List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,

mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe

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Re: SM email not sending with large attachments

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Ed Mullen wrote:

 And don't forget there is email encoding overhead.  An attachment that
 is exactly 10 Mb would make and email larger than 10 Mb even if the
 email has null content other than that.

..generally about 30% overhead. A 10Mb file would take about 13Mb to send 
via email.

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Re: google / amazon

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rjkrjk wrote:

 1. google search page... enter information
 2. results displayed on google
 3. click on a site for the item/info I need on Amazon.com

Why don't you just go to amazon.com first? There is a search box right 
there on amazon's main page.

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Re: FTPS with SM 2.24 Composer?

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Ed Mullen wrote:

 If you have to rely on a WYSIWYG editor move to either Kompozer (not
 actively being developed) or Blue Griffon.  Both are derived from Nvu
 (discontinued) which was derived from Composer.  Blue Griffon is the
 most up-to-date of all of them.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KompoZer

Latest stable release:  Aug 30, 2007

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueGriffon   :-)

Latest stable release:  June 19, 2013

(but both are better than Composer)

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Re: Can not get in to news.west.earthlink.net for newsgroups

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Omer Suleimanagich wrote:

 What are the proper settings in seamonkey, to get in to earthlink
 newsgroups?

A quick visit to my search engine finds:
http://support.earthlink.net/articles/tools/earthlink-newsgroups-faq.php

..where it also says, in case this applies to you:
Newsgroup access is limited to customers who opened accounts prior to 
December 2013.

They appear to be somewhat crippled. Heck, 30-day retention for text 
groups!!
http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/earthlink-newsgroups.html
Probably better to open a free account at Eternal-September...

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Re: FTPS with SM 2.24 Composer?

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Brooke Clarke wrote:

 My ISP is in the process of changing all hosted web pages to a secure
 server that uses FTPS (FTP over TLS or SSL) but I can't find anyplace to
 select these in SeaMonkey 2.24 Composer.  It that possible or do I need
 to change to some other web page editor, and if so any suggestions on a
 reasonable priced alternative?

Composer is older than Noah. Why not move to its most recent and still-
supported offspring:  Blue Griffon  http://bluegriffon.org/

Why not use a real FTP program instead of an editor? Try FileZilla. 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/

These are both free.

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Re: STOP - Please take me off your mailing list, thank you!

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Desiree wrote:

 On 3/15/2014 12:44 PM, Alexander Lau wrote:
 Seamonkey Team Dear Sir / Madam:
 Please take me off your mailing list, thank you very much!
   shatin...@yahoo.com

 This is a newsgroupnot a list serve.  Just remove this newsgroup
 from your email client.  There is no subscribe-unsubscribe.

No, that's not true. This is both a newsgroup and a list-serve. If you 
would examine the headers of Alexander's post, you would see the 
Unsubscribe option.

These mozilla groups are accessible via three ways:  newsreader, list-
serve emails, and by Google Groups. When a post is sent via one of these 
methods, it then propagates to the other two.

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Re: STOP - Please take me off your mailing list, thank you!

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Alexander Lau wrote:

 Seamonkey Team Dear Sir / Madam:
 Please take me off your mailing list, thank you very much!
  shatin...@yahoo.com

How to do that is right in the headers of your post:

List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
subject=unsubscribe

So send another email to support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org
Use the word unsubscribe for the Subject of the email.

Nobody else can do that for you.

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Re: email formatting question...

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Daniel wrote:

 Daniel wrote:
 If you wish to apply the effect (Bold, Underline and Italics) to the
 odd word  or to a few words in individual *Text* e-mails, you can use
 *asterics for bold* , _Underscores for underlining_ and /Slants for
 Italics/ .
 
 Hmm! I wonder why the /Italics/ didn't work?? Must be wrong symbol!!

Your initial /Slants for Italics/ did not work because of the line break 
in the middle of the phrase. Note that none of them will if they span 
multiple lines.

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Re: email formatting question...

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Daniel wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Daniel wrote:
 Hmm! I wonder why the /Italics/ didn't work?? Must be wrong symbol!!

 Your initial /Slants for Italics/ did not work because of the line
 break in the middle of the phrase. Note that none of them will if they
 span multiple lines.
 
 Is that right?

*_/Yes./_*

 Well YL,YL!!

Yoda Lives?

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Re: Other News Groups - How ? Revisited!

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EE wrote:

 Whoever said that Microsoft no longer has a news server is correct.  I
 was unable to find any groups to which to subscribe.

That was me; said it twice. I also said that many/most of the Microsoft 
groups are still available on other servers, such as Eternal-September, 
but are no longer related to MS in any way. Go here and request an 
account. E-S will email you a password. Server settings are shown here as 
well.

http://www.eternal-september.org/

Once you sign up, get the complete list of groups, and search for 
microsoft. and you'll find hundreds of them.

And:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

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Re: Other News Groups - How ?

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EE wrote:

 For Microsoft, that would be news.microsoft.com.  You can leave that as
 the name of the account or put in a different name.

No, you can't. The Microsoft news servers were shut down several years ago.

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Re: Other News Groups - How ?

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EE wrote:

 As far as getting access to more newsgroups goes, you can add more
 newsgroup server addresses as accounts.

Yes, that will work, once you sign up for them. Most require registering 
of some sort. Some are free, some are not.

  For instance, if you wanted
 access to Microsoft newsgroups, add news.microsoft.com as a new
 newsgroup account.

No, you can't do that. The microsoft news server was shut down years ago. 
Microsoft switched to web forums and dropped News. The fact that their 
groups propagated to many other news servers doesn't mean that server is 
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Re: Other News Groups - How ?

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EE wrote:

 If you were looking for newsgroups about Microsoft Windows, why not
 subscribe to news.microsoft.com?

Didn't they go defunct several years ago?  The server (and URL) you 
suggest is dead. Microsoft dropped Usenet in favor of spit web forums.

(You'll find the newsgroups still propagating around most common Usenet 
servers, but Mickeysoft has nothing to do with them anymore.)

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Re: Replying to a partial message

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G. Ross wrote:

 Just learned this from another newsgroup.  If you want to reply to just
 a part of a message or email, highlight that part or paragraph then
 click reply.  Saves deleting the parts you don't want to send back.
 
 This may be old news to you but new to me.

Glad you were able to learn that tactic. It's been a part of SeaMonkey/
Thunderbird probably since the beginning, over a decade ago. All other 
email clients and newsreaders I've used also have the same capability.

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Re: Amazon AVG Pop Ups - Trojans ?

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MR ZenWiz wrote:

 sean nathan sean.n.b...@wizards.knee wrote:
 [snip]

 ... I tend to rely on MSE - it's free, it seems to work fairly well
 
 Yes, I know it's also an MS product, but for what I see, it works better
 than most of them.

Would you trust an anti-virus product from the company that wrote the 
operating system that needs it?   ;-)
 
 (PS: Direct email reply to Sean bounced)

Yes, the TLD of .knee is obviously munged. Best to reply to group 
anyway. This way everyone gets to see solutions, etc.

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Re: Amazon AVG Pop Ups - Trojans ?

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MR ZenWiz wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Would you trust an anti-virus product from the company that wrote the
 operating system that needs it?   ;-)

 I don't trust the OS enough to use it unless I have to, but I do trust
 their greed in keeping unhappy users from defecting, so the software
 they write to protect the software they write tends to be somewhat more
 trustworthy in that regard.
 
 Besides, the trust I have in MSE is based on its track record - it does
 pretty well and their response time tends to be faster than McAfee or
 Symantec.

I just googled for:  best anti-virus applications   and the fist hit, a 
page entitled Five Best Antivirus Applications doesn't mention MSE.
http://lifehacker.com/395046/five-best-antivirus-applications 
And this page lists top ten, and not there either.
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/applications/best-free-
antivirus-9-reviewed-and-rated-1057786/2#articleContent

It's also likely that any other A-V will be faster than McAfee and 
Symantec.

 (PS: Direct email reply to Sean bounced)

 Yes, the TLD of .knee is obviously munged. Best to reply to group
 anyway. This way everyone gets to see solutions, etc.

 That would be easier if the group weren't set to default to individual
 replies, vs. automatic replies to the group, but what the hey.

I see you are visiting here using the emailing list. Your experiences 
would probably be better if you used a newsreader. Ask if you'd care for 
more details. Your email post is missing a References header is probably 
why.

 (And your (at)example.invalid is perfect, right? :-)

It is!  There is no way a mail server would even attempt to try to send to 
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Re: Amazon AVG Pop Ups - Trojans ?

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MR ZenWiz wrote:

 and I didn't see Malwarebytes anywhere on the list.

That's an anti-malware app, not an anti-virus app is why.   ;-)

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Re: thread pane

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Rick Merrill wrote:

 When viewing the thread pane it would be nice to see what the Next Item
 in the list would be.
 
 What happens is that the current item is at the bottom of the display.

Would sorting the pane in the opposite direction help?  Click on the 
column headings to sort (click second time to change direction). Sort by 
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Re: Nothing is loading in Seamonkey 2.24

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Alain Carrière wrote:

 Hi WaltS
 
 Thank you for trying to help me. Sorry to say first that I got a
 
 Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently when replying
 to your email

You should reply to the group instead. Walt has EVOMER as part of his 
email address, which is REMOVE spelt backwards. Did you remove it?

 Firefox and Thunderbird are working perfectly.
 It's just that, when launching Seamonkey, nothing shows up in the brower
 although it did it the first time after completing the installation.

What happens when you type a URL in the address bar? What do you have set 
as your home page?

What happens if you click here:  http://google.com/

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Re: Inbox shows 24 items but none show

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Rick Merrill wrote:

 My Inbox show 24 total but only the unread items show up. I have
 forgotten how to show the read items! Please help!

View  Messages  All   (toggles with Unread)

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Re: Attach a .TXT File to New Message Recently?

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JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 WinXP  SM 2.22.1
 
 When I create a new message and attach a .txt file, the content of that
 .txt file appears in the body of the message.

Always has.

 If I change the attached file to a .doc or .zip: the body of the message
 stays unaffected by the attachment.

Sure, but attach a .jpg or other image. You'll see it, too, no differently 
than a text file. Your .doc or .zip are a different kind of binary file 
not normally open-able by the compose window or the message pane.

 When did SM start integrating attachments into new messages?

When was SeaMonkey first released?

 Forwarded messages are different, they have choices: in-line vs
 attached.

So should new messages. Also can depend on whether or not you are sending 
plain text messages or HTML messages. Nothing new going on here.

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Re: Body Attachments

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JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 WinXP, SM 2.22.1
 
 I had sent a copy of a message to myself and when looking at the copy I
 received, the body of the message included text from files attached to
 the message.  How can that happen?
 
 I always thought that the body and attachments are totally separate.

A guy sends me text files as attachments from time to time, and they also 
show in the body of the message. It's the same as if the attachment is a 
picture you can see in the body.

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Re: Seamonkey will not allow me to edit page

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Jonathan Maunder wrote:

 I need to edit PNG documents in Seamonkey, but when I go to 'File',
 'Edit Page' is in grey on the drop-down menu. I cannot select it. Please
 help!

As far as I know, SeaMonkey does not have an image-editing program  
(probably never will) or the capability to do so.

You don't say what your operating system is, so I'll assume some version 
of Windows. You might look at IrfanView, a free program. The Gimp is quite 
good as well. Google for their home pages, download and install.

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Re: Wall St Journal Articles Won't Load

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Geoff Welsh wrote:
 it probably won't work now that I mention itbut if you know the
 exact title of a WSJ article, and you put it in quotes in Google, and
 you click through from the Google search result, you can magically
 read the article because the Google link-refferrer-thingy makes it
 work.

 Interesting trick. It doesn't seem to work when using ixquick.com
 though.

 I said Google

Yes, I know you did.

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Re: Wall St Journal Articles Won't Load

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Paul wrote:

 WSJ loads ok for me using SM1119.
 Unfortunately the only article that I am allowed to read without being a
 subscriber is about gay marriage in Utah.
 Maybe adjusting browser spoofing would help.
 Or turning off ad block.

Nah. You need to have an account to read all but a few teaser articles. 
Browser UA has nothing to do with it. Many newspaper sites do this.

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Re: Wall St Journal Articles Won't Load

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Geoff Welsh wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Paul wrote:
 WSJ loads ok for me using SM1119.
 Unfortunately the only article that I am allowed to read without being
 a subscriber is about gay marriage in Utah.
 Maybe adjusting browser spoofing would help.
 Or turning off ad block.

 Nah. You need to have an account to read all but a few teaser articles.
 Browser UA has nothing to do with it. Many newspaper sites do this.

 it probably won't work now that I mention itbut if you know the
 exact title of a WSJ article, and you put it in quotes in Google, and
 you click through from the Google search result, you can magically read
 the article because the Google link-refferrer-thingy makes it work.

Interesting trick. It doesn't seem to work when using ixquick.com though.

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Re: Wall St Journal Articles Won't Load

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Larry S. wrote:

 For the last couple of weeks articles from the Wall St. Journal won't
 load. The turning circle just sits there for over a minute, then I get a
 long page of links, apparently to various parts of the page such as ads.
 No text or page assembly.
 
 This is new; no problem before. Not a problem with any other pages from
 other sources. Can't trace this to any particular change--maybe u/g to
 2.23 (uncertain)?

Do you have a subscription to the WSJ site? Do you accept and retain their 
cookies?

I see what you describe for some (maybe half?) of their articles. I do not 
pay for a subscription.

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