Re: nntp newsgroup responses

2010-10-17 Thread Beverly Howard
Apologies in advance for my strong feelings on this subject... this got 
to me.


begin soapbox

A few observations as I exit;

My response to the message in question was not related to the thread, 
but it was posted in the thread because it related to a message therein.


The body indicated the specific poster I was asking the question of. 
the public post opened the response to others who might have information 
on my question


Subjects are NOT related to message threading... unless of course for 
those who think subjects relate to threading and attempt to sort posts 
by subject


The newsreader in subject of this newsgroup (seamonkey) has _zero_ need 
for quoting other that short quotes to identify the specifics of a 
specific response.


I find it interesting that the vocal objectors to this point here are 
comfortable spending far more time, energy and anger in an attempt to 
ossify a practice that has not been necessary for years rather than 
learning and using the potential of this software, then introducing that 
to others and, ultimately, making all posts much easier to read and follow.


Even google groups has understood the negative aspects of nntp quoting 
and taken steps to automatically remove them unless the user asks for 
them... and their threads meet the information needs of your demands.


 Like I preach .. QUOTE  

Since I'm not a member of your religion, I'll save you the minimal time 
that would have been needed to add me to your kill list and leave.


You obviously feel you have the right to impose your rules on users who 
don't think and work as you do.  By contrast, where I have strong 
feelings about using tolerance of patience in support forums, I don't 
feel I have the right to impose those requirements on other users.


Intolerance of any kind in any support environment is a major hindrance 
to finding and providing help... I've been participating in support 
environments since the single user, 300 baud dial up computers in 
someone's bedroom in 1983 when there was a specific need for quoting but 
would have never been tolerated in the barf quantities of quoting used 
here, but, you are so vocal in your demands that I am sure you have a 
longer support history than I.


Now, almost thirty years later it's amazing that the few nntp support 
forums remaining now seem to be dominated by rigid users making archaic 
demands to post using requirements that software improvements over those 
decades have removed the need to use.  imho, it's not surprising that 
nntp support forums are disappearing.


Very Sincerely,
Beverly Howard

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nntp newsgroup responses

2010-10-16 Thread Beverly Howard

d...@kd4e.com,

From the message header in your posts, I'm curious how you are setup to 
access this newsgroup... it looks as if you are using a listserve 
rather than a newsreader


A quick note.  When responding to nntp newsgroup posts, simply reply 
to the newsgroup post rather than using reply all  In your case, it 
looks as if the listserve settings are such that responds only to the 
author of the message you are responding to unless you use replay all


Sending to the newsgroup gets the message to all newsgroup participants 
including the author of the message you are responding to.


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Re: How to get news normally ?

2010-10-15 Thread Beverly Howard

 there are no new messages on the server 

Sounds like a problem with your news server... the resubscription 
process forces a download.


Suggest setting up using this group's server... it's been very reliable.

news.mozilla.org

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Re: Dealing with forwarded messages

2010-10-14 Thread Beverly Howard

 I want to remove the bars 

The bars are there from two possibilities... either the marks were 
already in the message you are working with  or  the marks were 
generated when you quote a message when responding.


In the former, since they are already in the message text, the only 
option I know of is to copy the original message, remove the remarks 
either manually or using a macro in a text editor, recopy, then paste 
into a new message.


Since you are using the html editor, I have found that it's easier to 
remove the quote marks using an external text editor than sm's message 
editor.


If they are there because you quote the message, turn reply quoting 
off, then just copy the portion of the message you want to include and 
paste that into the new message.


Hope this clarifies and helps,
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Re: Dealing with forwarded messages

2010-10-14 Thread Beverly Howard

 message reply editor 

A couple of comments related to posting in plain text or html...

Traditionally, nntp newsgroup forum responses should be in plain text 
only which is settable for each account in the mail and newsgroup 
settings.


Unchecking compose in html should also clarify what is happening with 
your response messages.


It's not very well known, but you can also toggle the reply message 
format by holding the shift key down when clicking reply ...i.e. if 
your setup is set to reply in html, doing this will start the plain text 
editor instead of the html editor.


Hope that this information is of value.
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Re: Dealing with forwarded messages

2010-10-13 Thread Beverly Howard
 When a message is forwarded, there appears a vertical line on the 
left side 


I think Paul has identified the problem, but, to clarify what's happening;

Check to see if there are  characters in the message source of the 
message before it is forwarded...  if you edit in html (your message 
edit toolbar will have font and other formatting options) those will be 
converted to the vertical bars you describe when you quote the 
original message or forward inline.


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Re: Having E-Mail Problems - General Question

2010-10-12 Thread Beverly Howard

 Can I receive mail from such public E-Mail systems
directly on my SM 1.1 E-Mail 

Depends on the service... the answer is to go into each one's help 
system and search for POP3 and IMAP references.


If they do, you should be able to find server settings and tips on 
configuring email (normally under other)


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Re: recreate address book from sent folder?

2010-10-12 Thread Beverly Howard
 I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with 
grep).  If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, 
would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of 
email addresses? 


This is a programming issue that can be attacked in a number of 
different ways... your mention of grep indicates some tech skills


The first thing that comes to my mind is to use a text editor with a 
good macro utility...


...for example using http://textpad.com , I would;

open the sent file

then build a macro that;

search for @
search for )
begin marking (shift)
search backwards for (
copy
switch window (to a collection file)
paste
type carriage return
switch back

(note, other characters than ( might be better markers)

repeat to end of file...

Then sort the lines alphabetically and you would be in a good position 
to delete large blocks such as her address and lines that didn't begin 
with ( etc, etc...


Then either de-dupe or manually cut duplicate lines.

...above is theory, untested, but have done many similar jobs using 
textpad macros.


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Re: Anyone else having problems with zap2it?

2010-10-10 Thread Beverly Howard

You might take a look at http://www.titantv.com

I used zap2it for a couple of years, but, because of a number of 
problems, including the inability to configure the on air channels 
since they were based on zip codes rather than my ability to receive 
stations, I tried, and really like, titantv and have been using it for 
over a year now.


They also have a mobile app that works... with titan, I tried using it 
when mobile, but finally just gave up.


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Re: Where's the option to notify me about blocked pop-ups?

2010-10-08 Thread Beverly Howard
fwiw, you can also click the popup notifier at the bottom right of the 
window which will allow you to set exceptions for the current web page.


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Re: How to limit number of Seamonkey instances?

2010-10-06 Thread Beverly Howard
 Fascinating. Just out of curiosity, are we talking about a machine 
that runs that Quick Launch TSR (I don't)? 


Nope... have never used that option... (machines nowadays don't need it ;-)

 In my case, when SM fails to terminate (which it does from time to 
time), I can see it in the Task Manager but nowhere else and can't 
interact with it, but unlike your experience, its presence /does/ 
prevent another instance from launching. 


Very interesting... have never observed that behavior... good information.

My primary computer that ends up with the multiple processes uses a 
core2 processor, so, that might be a factor, but, since I frequently 
dig into preferences and mail settings to answer questions and educate 
myself, my primary suspicions are there... i.e. something starts a sm 
process thread that escapes seamonkey's normal shutdown sequence.


Thanks for the details... helpful.

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Re: truncated mail messages - MS Exchange, IMAP, SeaMonkey

2010-10-06 Thread Beverly Howard

Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: How to limit number of Seamonkey instances?

2010-10-05 Thread Beverly Howard

 multiple Seamonkey task manager processes 

fwiw, over the years I've become practiced at checking task manager 
looking for multiple instances of seamonkey running, so, nowadays it's 
rare to find more than two running at the same time, but, in the past I 
have found as many as eight seamonkey processes in task manager with 
only one instance of seamonkey visible on the desktop or task bar.


 it's not known to me 

I understand not having experienced this since, at this location I have 
four boxes, all running XPPro which are regularly running seamonkey and 
this behavior is observed on only one of the machines.


That said, I have looked at task manager on many machines at other 
location and found the same thing not to mention the many posts here 
asking about the same symptoms.  It _appears_ to be related to some 
action being taken within the email/newsreader client or the mail and 
newsgroups settings, but I have been unable to manually recreate the 
problem.


It is also noteworthy that this is currently happening on my primary 
computer and for years, I observed the same behavior on the box it replaced.


 if SM is running, I /cannot/ launch a second instance 

Note the details I have posted on this behavior... this does not happen 
when seamonkey is running, nor do I use a shortcut to switch to existing 
sessions of seamonkey visible on the task bar, it happens when a normal 
_exit_ of seamonkey does not completely shut down and leaves seamonkey 
visible in task manager long after it is exited.


In that case, the next time seamonkey is launched, that launch does not 
detect the residual process that is visible in task manager and a second 
task manager process, with a new pid, is launched.


From my observations, once that second seamonkey process exists, 
every shutdown of seamonkey that follows leads to another instance of 
seamonkey in task manager.


 The only reason I reboot nowadays... 

While not as radical as your intervals, I generally reboot every two to 
three weeks and use the computer as a central part of my business and 
life, so, I agree, this is a factor.


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Re: Hard-to-describe Seamonkey mail question

2010-10-05 Thread Beverly Howard

 so I don't inadvertently delete something important! 

On a mobile pc running seamonkey, simply avoid compacting the folders 
and emptying the trash until after you return and verify that you have 
all the messages you wanted to keep... if not, you can retrieve them on 
your mobile pc and email them to yourself.


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Re: Hard-to-describe Seamonkey mail question

2010-10-05 Thread Beverly Howard

A related tip for the mobile devices.

Note that the results of sever deletion vary by platform.  On a mobile 
pc running seamonkey, once you return and retrieve your messages on your 
main computer set to delete messages on server messages received on 
the mobile pc will remain in seamonkey.


However, in os' such as windows mobile, after messages are deleted from 
the server, on the next email connection using windows mobile, the 
messages will be deleted from that device.


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Re: truncated mail messages - MS Exchange, IMAP, SeaMonkey

2010-10-05 Thread Beverly Howard

  edit/mailnewgroups/account/diskspace 

 No, it doesn't seem to be a message-purging or disk-space problem.  

On that page is a setting to restrict the size of the message downloads.

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Re: truncated mail messages - MS Exchange, IMAP, SeaMonkey

2010-10-04 Thread Beverly Howard
While I would suspect that exchange is the culprit since I have run into 
similar problems with google's exchange system sending gmail, you might 
check;


edit/mailnewgroups/account/diskspace

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Re: Hard-to-describe Seamonkey mail question

2010-10-04 Thread Beverly Howard

 leaving messages on server when traveling 
 Is there any way to emulate this behavior on my laptop? 

What you are describing is how the email client is set to handle 
messages after they are downloading.


edit/mailnewsgroups/account/serversettings/leavemail...

To do what you describe, on all of your mobile devices, you check 
Leave Mail on Server then set the options to meet your needs.


Mobile devices such as the blackberry generally default to Leave Mail 
on server which is why it works for you.


Generally the best is to check delete messages on server when you delete 
them on the mobile client... what happens is that you then have only the 
messages you chose to keep when you get back to the office.


Hope that this information is of value.
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Re: How to limit number of Seamonkey instances?

2010-10-04 Thread Beverly Howard

 multiple Seamonkey instances 

This is a known SM bug that cannot be reliably duplicated and has been 
an issue for years.


With low tech users, the best way to address it is to suggest they 
reboot daily and keep seamonkey open rather than close it after each use.


If the user is familiar with task manager, after seamonkey has been 
closed for a couple of minutes, task manager can be used to end 
process on all the remaining instances of seamonkey.


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Re: Hard-to-describe Seamonkey mail question

2010-10-04 Thread Beverly Howard

 is there any a way to delete from server on a per-message basis? 

Checking the server settings option Until I Delete Them accomplishes 
this... delete any message on a mobile computer and all other messages 
will remain available to your office pc except for the ones you manually 
deleted when traveling.


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Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!

2010-10-01 Thread Beverly Howard
personally, I would suspect that the site saved the information in one 
of it's cookies... since it's a local political group, the probability 
is high that the site is run by young volunteers who may not have a good 
understanding of contributors' privacy concerns.


edit/pref/advanced/privacy/forms/uncheck...
edit/pref/advanced/privacy/forms/manage/remove...

Not sure where it's located, but sm 1.1.17 _asks_ if I want to save the 
data after it's entered.


fwiw, a good keyboard macro program can bypass the sm forms data 
completely, is faster and more accurate to use that then, give you more 
control and allow you to keep sensitive information in a secure location.


Finally, consider dedicating one _credit_ card as a web only, only web 
card and have the provider set it's limit low... the way things are 
going, doing so has a good chance of paying off later.


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Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!

2010-10-01 Thread Beverly Howard

 grocer's apostrophes 

well... at least you know how to hurt a guy.

I'm sorry I tried to help, and sorry I irritated you... but, can't do a 
damm thing about sm irritating you though.


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Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!

2010-10-01 Thread Beverly Howard

Thanks for the response and clarification,
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Re: Trash restore

2010-09-28 Thread Beverly Howard
 When an email is moved from the inbox to the trash file, the message 
still exists in the inbox 


Thanks for the clarification and posting the manual recovery option for 
messages still in the inbox for the op to pursue.


However, I think/thought the op was asking why the trash was empty when 
he had taken no action to empty it.


It would be nice, but, as far as I know there is no way to toggle the 
deleted messages on and off.


It is possible to recover deleted messages sequentially within SM by 
using ctrl-z but don't know how far/long that works... i.e. if it's 
possible after closing SM and returning.  It is possible to return to a 
folder and do so after going elsewhere in the same session.


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Re: Windows XP Pro. SP3's screen saver and monitor sleep not starting with SeaMonkey v2?

2010-09-27 Thread Beverly Howard
fwiw, media players such as windows media player regularly do this... 
so, would assume that if there is an ongoing process running on any of 
the currently loaded pages that this would not be surprising.


A good example would be watching or listening to streaming content where 
the screen going blank would be problematic.


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Re: Mail Newsgroups Inbox

2010-09-27 Thread Beverly Howard
 Is there a way to move the ATT DSL folder above the Starband top 
folder? 


There might be other answers but an easy one is to copy the _contents_ 
of your Starband account into the ATT account folders rather than 
trying to move the primary account folders.


There are a number of approaches such as creating a Starband folder in 
the ATT account and moving everything there or to copy the contents of 
each Starband folder into the same folder in the ATT account.


Couple of cautions...

backup first since you will probably be processing a lot of messages.

Compact all folders before you start

I'm not sure exactly how the sorting is handled, but I would probably 
compact them a second time after everything is moved to assure the sorts 
are correct.


Once finished, you can delete the starband account to move ATT to the top.

Hope that this information is of value.
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Re: Print to File in E-Mail - Problems

2010-09-26 Thread Beverly Howard
The print to file option in the print dialog will create a file 
containing exactly what will be sent to the printer by the selected 
printer driver... graphics codes, printer commands, etc... in other 
words, unusable garbage.


It is, however, possible to do what you need and get all of the text on 
a page printed to a plain text file.


create a new printer
select the generic text only printer
select file as the output port

When this is done, go to any web page that contains text, select print, 
then select that printer.  You will be asked for a filename (use .txt as 
the extension) and location, then, when finished, the file will contain 
only the plain text that was on the page.


Ironically, if you select print to file in the print dialog, since the 
default port is file an error will be generated.


Obviously, things such as text in an image will not print.  Some 
programs, notably acrobat, are deliberately designed to not print plain 
text output.


Hope that this information is of value.
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Re: Trash restore

2010-09-26 Thread Beverly Howard

 any one know what is wrong with my settings  

I would guess that the email account is set to empty trash on exit

edit/mailnews.../account/server/empty...

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Re: ZoomText and SeaMonkey

2010-09-23 Thread Beverly Howard

 Your Operating System
Windows XP Services Pack 3
 Your Monitor size
21 inches
 Your Video settings (pixel size)
800 X 600
 Seamonkey version
2.0.8
 my preferred screen magnification is 10X

thanks... that clarifies your need.

It would help to get the ruler size height of a readable character on 
your monitor screen such as 1.5 inches


The point or font sizes end up being dependent on other factors that 
determine the baseline for your display... i.e. if you were to change 
your display settings from 800x600 to 1600x1200, all the characters of 
the same point size would then be 1/4 the size after the switch.


You seem to have a good handle on your setup, so, all I can do is to add 
a few thoughts;


The windows font setting can make a major difference but while helping 
by increasing the size of text throughout the computer, many programs 
assume that the setting will be standard and cut off or hide text that 
is larger than the window it will display in.  To experiment, would suggest


displayproperties/settings/advanced/DPI/Large

You can go to custom but I assume you will find that 150% and larger 
will lead to too many problems.


If you don't have one, consider getting on of the Microsoft Intellimouse 
products.  These have additional buttons on the mouse and ship with 
Intellipoint sofware that includes an excellent magnifier.


You can then set one of these buttons to launch the magnifier which will 
appear centered around the mouse cursor anywhere on the screen.


Additionally, when holding the button down, the scroll wheel varies the 
magnification and moving the mouse resizes the magnification box.


Post specific questions and I and others will try to assist.

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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-23 Thread Beverly Howard

 It's probably not a good idea to do that. 

While that would be a consideration if SM were still in use and 
accessible, since SM is dead in the water there is no reason not to 
kill the process if there has been an interval since it was used.


fwiw, I have needed to kill SM in taskmanger for many years and have not 
experienced any corruption.


The other point to consider is to see if quick launch is still 
running.  If so, exit from the tray icon and see if it removes the task 
manager entry.


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Re: ZoomText and SeaMonkey

2010-09-22 Thread Beverly Howard
 I want to let you know that I got a new screen magnification/Reader 
called is ZoomText version 9.18 from my Blind state agency. 


Thanks for the post.  It is helpful to get input on needs that most of 
us cannot comprehend.


It would help if you posted some additional information including;

Your Operating System
Your Monitor size
Your Video settings (pixel size)
Seamonkey version
Physical Size (the height of characters) the text needs to be for you to 
easily read it.


 Can you please make SeaMonkey magnification/Reader accessible? 

Within SeaMonkey, the text size is controlled by Ctrl + and Ctrl -)

Unfortunately, most website designs do not allow large text to display 
gracefully.


Your magnifier should run above SeaMonkey and other applications.  It 
sounds like it would be helpful to have someone familiar with the 
program configure it on your computer while you watch and learn.


There are other magnifiers available depending on your system, but, they 
may not be sufficient for your needs.


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Re: compact folder

2010-09-20 Thread Beverly Howard
 if the folder is re-created uncompacted - there is not an easy way 
to recover an old message 


Unless something has changed, it's not necessary to uncompact the 
folder...


These SM folders are actually files that can be opened with a text editor.

close sm before opening them with a text editor, and, if possible, open 
the file read only (which is an option in many text editors such as 
TextPad)


you can then search the file contents for something in the message or 
header, then copy the message and paste and access it elsewhere.


If the file has an attachment, it will be in mime format and follow the 
message header and message text.  The mime can be copied to a new text 
file, saved and then decoded with a utility such as uuDeview


Hope that this information is of value.
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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Beverly Howard

 then you must need coke-bottle-glasses 

I sincerely hope that you store that thought someplace where you can 
reference it and reflect back on it in a few decades and reconsider it's 
impact on those with vision problems.


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Re: compact folder

2010-09-19 Thread Beverly Howard
As with computer files, when you delete a message, it is not deleted, 
simply marked as deleted in order to save time.


Deleted messages are copied to the relevant trash folder, so you might 
look there if it has not been emptied since the deletion.  If you 
empty the trash the entire contents are permanently deleted.


When you compact a folder, the entire contents of the folder are scanned 
and rewritten only if they are not marked as deleted.  I assume (but 
don't know) that seamonkey rights the visible messages to a new file, 
then deletes the old file and gives the new file the same name as the old.


If so, check the recycle bin, and, if the message is critical, it might 
be possible to use a file recovery tool to recover the file.  If the 
file is simply re-written, the only recovery option would be to recover 
the file for the folder from a backup.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Beverly Howard
 I could still use the scroll bars to view various parts of the main 
page... 


CNN and a number of other major sites have the same issues as shown by 
the clip at http://bevhoward.com/stuff/images/CNNFont.jpg


 notify the site 

From my experience, life isn't like that... on high volume sites such 
as cnn and fox in my opinion (and from my experiences) it's unlikely 
that a human will see such a comment and even if they do, it's unlikely 
that they will care enough to forward it much less take action to 
address the issues.


 options 

Sometimes it is possible to use ctrlminus but, even that does not 
work on the source page for the above image with my font settings.


Other options are to use view in ie or ctrl-A then paste into a text 
editor if you really need to see the text.


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Re: Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-18 Thread Beverly Howard

 For 1.1.x it's Firefox/2.0 and for 2.0 it's Firefox/3.5  

Thanks... appreciated

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Beverly Howard
 Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under 
the Baby 


Control-Pluses ?? Control-Minus perhaps?

Tried it... multiple Control-Minus still leave the last line hidden.

fwiw, I'm resigned to living with it and have an arsenal of options, 
including blacklisting sites, on my end as that ends up being the only 
real option.


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Re: Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

Thanks for the responses... eductional... and appreciated.

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Re: User Agent Switcher

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

Found it... thanks to David's response in another thread

edit/prefs/advanced/softwareinstalltion

check and add site to list.

Thanks,
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Re: Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

 http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/49 

Thanks... very interesting reading.

It certainly underscores my experiences using seamonkey and makes a lot 
of sense since I have come across very few users who are even familiar 
with the name.


 general.useragent.extra.xfake 

Still looking for some additional understanding of the use of a new 
about:config prefs entry such as the above and how to best impliment it.


As mentioned, I would have assumed that it would need to be added to the 
basic string that contains SeaMonkey but this suggestion seems to 
indicate that the above entry would be appended to the string and make 
it easy to find the edit later for editing or removal.


 ...due to Firefox’s popularity seem to frequently NOT be broken when 
and if we Added “Firefox/” to our UA string. 


Shouldn't the firefox version number be included?

And which version of firefox is best for compatibility with seamonkey 1 
and 2?


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ 

Several parts of this page are completely unreadable on my system, due 
primarily to my need to use large font settings.


This is a classic case of the web designers being oblivious to the 
possibility that anyone viewing their site is using anything other than 
a computer that has had no changes such as font size increases and they 
are using ie as their browser.


...fortunately, I would have never visited this site had it not been for 
this thread ;-)


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Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!

2010-09-16 Thread Beverly Howard

 don't support Cut-Copy-Paste 

There is an irritating issue that has been around for years.

For me I encounter it primarily, but unpredictably, in the email 
composer, where the edit/paste selection is greyed out and it's not 
possible to paste something that's on the clipboard until something is 
copied from the message that is being composed.


It doesn't happen regularly, and, when a copy function is executed, it 
does not happen again in the same session... which for me may go on for 
several days.


Next time it happens, check the edit menu and report back.

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User Agent Switcher

2010-09-16 Thread Beverly Howard
I've been using User Agent Switcher 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/59/) for years and 
can't live without it on my primary computer.


However, today I tried installing it on another SM 1.1.17 computer and 
it would not install... click the download button and noting 
happens... even downloaded the xpi and tried to open it from the browser 
menu without success.


What am I missing?

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Education on User Agent Strings

2010-09-16 Thread Beverly Howard

Way back in may Peter Potamus posted some user agent tips


Another option is to type in the address bar:

about:config

then right click on an entry and select New, String and
in the first box enter:

general.useragent.extra.xfake

change the xfake to anything you like

then in the next box put in:

not Firefox/2.0.0.20


Can someone help enlighten me on how the above works as I would have 
assumed that the way to deal with it would have been to replace the 
Seamonkey string with the firefox string.


While I have been using user agent switcher for a long time, the need to 
spoof firefox has gotten so common, I need a default fix.


There appears to be no option in user agent switcher to set the 
default other than by using about:config so, since it reverts to 
default for each session, need to get educated.


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Re: Address book combine?

2010-09-15 Thread Beverly Howard

 FoxPro 

There are a number of ways to skin this cat...

For example Total on email to NODUPE is a new one for me... will have 
to investigate that command further as it sounds interesting ;-)


in addition to Arnie's steps, some other possibilities.

set unique on
Index on upper(email) to email

The unique will index only the first occurrence of each email set, so, 
when the index is set, all dupes will be hidden.


Since email addresses are not necessarily uppercase, the index statement 
will take that into consideration...


...then,  additional problems arise... seamonkey's address book has two 
email fields, so, the dupes may be in different fields.


Add to that that later duplicate entries may have additional or more 
valid information, and the potential for data loss arises.


Even having deduped many millions of records during my programming life, 
I hate the process since there are so many ways for it to bite back, so, 
was glad to discover that someone at google seems to have found a better 
way.


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Re: Address book combine?

2010-09-15 Thread Beverly Howard
 I can create a bunch of variables in the .csv file and then Pegasus 
will replace the variable with whatever is in the .csv file. 


Great information... thanks.

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Re: Address book combine?

2010-09-13 Thread Beverly Howard

 hack 

Curious... what's the hack?

 combine two or more address books, eliminate duplicates, and note 
possible conflicts? 


I'm looking forward to seeing if there is a good mozilla solution for 
this as doing what you need has never been easy.


That said, I converted my and my wife's contacts lists (each with about 
 1,000 entries) to google contacts since they offer free exchange sync 
and, as part of the conversion I was very impressed with google contacts 
duplicate entry processing.


I make that statement from the perspective of a database programmer who 
worked with the frequent need to dedupe huge address lists.


If I were faced with this need today, I would export both lists to csv 
format, import them into http://google.com/contacts then run the google 
contacts dedupe process and export them when finished.


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Re: Google Maps and SM

2010-09-13 Thread Beverly Howard

 delete cookies 

Thanks... will try that if the problem reappears...

Just checked again and it seems that the problem has been cleared by google.

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Re: Google Maps and SM

2010-09-12 Thread Beverly Howard
 I'm using 1.1.19 and Google maps does not work in satellite view. I 
just get a white screen 


That's one of the symptoms... it is some type of a sm refresh that has 
a white screen with only the title bar at the top... no menu, address 
line, etc... it does recover back onto the google page, they cycles back 
to a blank white screen.


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Re: Google Maps and SM

2010-09-12 Thread Beverly Howard

Thanks for all of the responses.

I'm beginning to think that it may be specific to the austin, tx sat 
image server.


I duplicated the problem on a different computer running sm... the 
interesting thing is that the root problem is there but the symptoms are 
slightly different...


Initially there appeared to be no problem, but selecting a view where 
the distance index (lower left) showed 2,000 ft, moving the view several 
ttimes resulted in the same slowdowns until effectively locked up.


second computer;

xppro sp2, sm 1.1.17

seamonkey cpu holds at 98%

somewhat more mouse/cursor control but still slow, jerky

delayed button/command button responses

Will run some more tests.

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Re: Google Maps and SM

2010-09-12 Thread Beverly Howard

 Will run some more tests. 

Ran some tests spoofing different browser user agents...

google maps quit working (would not load) when spoofing ie7

I then went back to the default user agent (seamonkey 1.1.17) and the 
problem is no longer there at the moment.


Confused,
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Google Maps and SM

2010-09-11 Thread Beverly Howard
In addition to the google/seamonky search issues currently being 
discussed, I'm experiencing a serious problem trying to use 
http://maps.google.com  (currently running 1.1.17 for stability issues)


When a map comes up in satellite view, seamonkey essentially locks up

This impacts not only seamonkey, the computer as a whole becomes 
unusable where the only option is to kill seamonkey using task manager, 
a real pita if I have other tabs open.


I'm going to run a few tests to get more info and will report back.  I 
have reported this to google for whatever good that might do.


Could someone else open maps in satellite view and see if they are 
impacted as well?


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Re: Google Maps and SM

2010-09-11 Thread Beverly Howard
I think it's there, but I can't see it (I see one unread message)... so, 
reposting;


 Seamonkey locks up when google maps satellite view is selected 

The maximum problems are observed when google maps is showing a detail 
area 4-5 miles across or less... for example, the problem is not there 
when the google maps default screen of north america in sat view comes ups.


Experimenting with Task Manager shows that seamonkey's cpu demands are 
normal until the satellite view is selected, then it goes to 50% and 
stays there until the seamonkey process is killed using task manager.


Doing anything out side of seamonkey then becomes difficult to 
impossile... for example, killing seamonkey using task manager is 
difficult since the cursor is almost frozen and keyboard command 
responses are intermittant.


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Re: [W7 SM2.0.6 ] In Edit - Mail Newsgroups Account Settings; Does anyone else get this?

2010-09-08 Thread Beverly Howard

 all open too narrow, cutting off content on the right hand
side. 

There is a bug report on this... feel free to add to add your experience 
to it


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591649

Key questions are

what computer are you experiencing this on?  (netbook, tablet, laptop???)

What screen size in pixels

what os

are you using large font settings

Post the above here as there may be workarounds.

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Re: Form manager in v.2?

2010-09-05 Thread Beverly Howard

 What's the best add-on for this? 

This is a completely different approach to the need, and it replaced my 
dependence on the form manager over about six months before I realized 
it had happened... a keyboard macro program.  For me, it's actually 
faster than the form manager since most forms were almost never filled 
in correctly and the keystokes are now almost automatic.


The one I use is freeware written by a fellow ms-mvp.  Details on this 
great (and free) program Wintools from MVP Gary Chanson at 
http://www.bevhoward.com/WinTools.htm


The really nice part is that everything you store becomes available in 
any program you use such as email, word processor, etc.


Hope that this information is of value.
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Re: Form manager in v.2?

2010-09-05 Thread Beverly Howard

 What's the best add-on for this? 

This is a completely different approach to the need, and it replaced my
dependence on the form manager over about six months before I realized
it had happened... a keyboard macro program.  For me, it's actually
faster than the form manager since most forms were almost never filled
in correctly and the keystokes are now almost automatic.

The one I use is freeware written by a fellow ms-mvp.  Details on this
great (and free) program Wintools from MVP Gary Chanson

The really nice part is that everything you store becomes available in
any program you use such as email, word processor, etc.

Hope that this information is of value.
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forum not posting messages?

2010-09-05 Thread Beverly Howard
This is a test... I posted two replies this morning and neither has 
appeared on the forum.


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Re: RSS in v.2?

2010-09-05 Thread Beverly Howard

 ...followed the link in the definition of the term... 

I'm on Paul's side on this one.  No two humans think alike and its easy 
to miss links and references that the programmer or creator feel are 
obvious and adequate since they generally approach the need with a very 
different mindset that that of the originator.


As a programmer, it's always been very informative to sit on my hands 
behind anyone using my programs and force myself to say nothing.  Very 
educational ;-)


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Re: forum not posting messages?

2010-09-05 Thread Beverly Howard

 I saw them. 

Thanks... they did show up, but where not there half an hour after the 
post where they normally show up in seconds.


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Re: can seamonkey send mail from command line?

2010-09-04 Thread Beverly Howard

 send email from a batch job 

I'm pretty sure that seamonkey cannot do this.

However, there are many command line mail utilities that can do this and 
are better suited for the job... google time.


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Re: SM and iTunes

2010-09-04 Thread Beverly Howard
 I don't think it is iTunes problem since it works fine with IE but 
not with SM. 


It is a problem with the apple web page that cannot handle the fact that 
you are not running ie, so, it takes the easy way out and simply stops.


I've tinkered with this and attempted to find if it's possible without 
success and I think you will have better luck getting valid information 
from an itunes community site or tech support.


Additionally, one of the big benefits of seamonkey over ie is that 
seamonkey is designed with the idea that it should not be able to run 
executables on your pc using commands issued from the website that you 
are visiting.  This is in contrast to ie which is why that browser is 
used as a primary method to run malicious programs remotely.


 But I need iTunes to get the podcasts 

Jobs has been brilliant in making it stone simple to download podcasts 
via itunes to the point where many people think that itunes is the 
_only_ way to download many podcasts.


In fact, almost all podcasts available through itunes can be downloaded 
directly using other methods including browsers such as seamonkey.


Take a look around for the many other options including 
http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/ which, imho, is the best option.


Another option is to use itunes to subscribe to and download the 
podcasts directly.


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Re: Forwarding to iPhone, etc is a Major Problem

2010-09-03 Thread Beverly Howard

 your solution could not be as simple as selecting
Edit-Preferences-MailNewsgroups-Composition and, at the top,
selecting to Forward messages Inline, could it??  

Damm good eyes... been to that screen several times during this quest 
and missed that every time.


I really hope so... will test and report back.

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Re: Forwarding by Message Filter

2010-09-03 Thread Beverly Howard

Related discovery...

the iTunes iOS is a factor.  EML attachments are at least opened and 
displayed in iOS version 4.x


However, 4.x has not been released for the iPad and is not compatible 
with some older iPhone and iTouch models.



Even though attached EML documents are displayed in 4.x, the email 
address of the sender of the attached message is not visible.  I don't 
have a device available until she returns, so, don't know if header 
information can be viewed by another option.


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Re: SM and iTunes

2010-09-03 Thread Beverly Howard
Think this would be best asked of apple... their community support forum 
is http://discussions.apple.com


I can confirm that this is normal behaviour ...imho, it's probably 
because seamonkey is smart enough to know that itunes is a terrible app ;-)


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Re: Forwarding to iPhone, etc is a Major Problem

2010-09-03 Thread Beverly Howard

  your solution could not be as simple as selecting
Edit-Preferences-MailNewsgroups-Composition and, at the top,
selecting to Forward messages Inline, could it??

Unfortunately, the above doesn't change the message filter forwarding 
behavior.


Thanks anyway,
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Re: Forwarding by Message Filter

2010-09-03 Thread Beverly Howard

 Eudora has a Redirect capability. 

Thanks... might be worth installing it to just use for this need.

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Re: Forwarding by Message Filter

2010-09-03 Thread Beverly Howard

 If your E-mail address in your message is real, I can send
you a copy of the installer file. 

Thanks... it's real

Appreciated,
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Forwarding to iPhone, etc is a Major Problem

2010-09-02 Thread Beverly Howard

 Message | Forward As | Inline gets you this header over the content:  

Yep... but, I am at the start of a month where my (low tech) wife is 
traveling with only an iPhone and iPad for email.


I set up a rule on her account to automatically forward emails from a 
specific list of her correspondents to her GMail account and didn't 
catch the details pointing to major problems until she was packing to 
leave, so, I am left with a problem where the only option is to manually 
forward her email.


Your manual Inline option works, but testing now shows that the only 
message filter option is to forward as attachment.


That, it turns out, creates a major problem for iPhone, iPad and iTouch 
users... the built in apple iOS email client reports that it can't 
handle .EML file attachments.


That leaves the traveler with only the option to use a web mail 
interface.  In my wife's case, that is GMail and it turns out that GMail 
does a terrible job of handling .eml attachments... you can read the 
body of the message, but, unlike seamonkey and most (if not all) email 
clients, it does not display the original sender's address information.


The header information is there, but virtually impossible for a low tech 
user to find, copy, then paste into the address field of a reply.


I'll keep digging and report what I find... in the mean time, a filter 
option to forward inline is something to consider adding to future 
versions.


Thanks,
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Re: Spam Filter

2010-09-02 Thread Beverly Howard

 my ISP's spam filter marks something Possible Spam  

Might check with your isp for config options.

I had the same problem, but my provider's spam settings allow me to 
specify what (if anything) was added to the subject lines of suspected spam.


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Forwarding by Message Filter

2010-09-01 Thread Beverly Howard
When automatically forwarding filtered incoming message using a filter 
rule, the from and reply to email addresses on the forwarded 
messages are obviously going to be the email address associated with the 
account that's doing the forwarding.


Unfortunately, there is nothing in the forwarded message that lets the 
receiver easily see the email address of the original sender except by 
digging into the message headers.


Anyone know of any way to automate getting the original sender's email 
address into the body of the forwarded message?


Thanks in advance,
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Re: Spam Filter

2010-09-01 Thread Beverly Howard

 Is anybody else experiencing this 
 I don't get email from newegg.com 

fwiw, newegg.com emails have something embedded in them that makes them 
very attractive to every spam filter that I have worked with.


I've actually sent newegg.com detailed tech information on the problem 
but didn't get the courtesy of a response.


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Re: edit with

2010-08-28 Thread Beverly Howard

thanks... the key is appreciated.

To clarify since the need is a little different, the mozilla composer 
has been my only html editor since the early (netscape 1.x?) days and 
it's the ideal editor for html files, so, it's always set as the edit 
file association for all html files.


With every project there always seems to be at least a couple of needs 
to switch to html source edit in order to tweak or do mass changes.


In earlier composer versions there was a menu option to Open in 
external editor which was very convenient.


With textpad (and I assume wordpad) I can leave the file explorer window 
open after opening the file for edit in composer, then rightclick the 
same file and selecting textpad to achieve this, but it's pretty 
kludgy compared to the menu option.


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Re: Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired

2010-08-28 Thread Beverly Howard

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591649

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Re: Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired

2010-08-28 Thread Beverly Howard

The tech details included in your post added to bug with credit

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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-28 Thread Beverly Howard
 I keep getting a message saying a connection cannot be made to the 
SMTP server. 


most likely a configuration problem...

each internet connection limits open smtp server access to _only_ those 
connected via the service that provides the server... i.e. using a RR 
server, their smtp server can't be used if connected via any other isp 
provider such as verizon and probably any other location than your home 
location.


The normal solution nowadays is to use smtp authentication using your 
account's mail id and password.  A quick and easy fix is to use the 
webmail interface provided by your isp until you get it sorted out.


fwiw, Sending and receiving email are two completely separate 
operations... the only thing that connects them is your email client, 
so, pop3 working has zero bearing on smtp problems.


Hope that this information is of value.
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Re: Change Font Color???

2010-08-28 Thread Beverly Howard
 In the Browser home page  other web sites, is there a way to change 
the display window print characters?? 


A quick solution when faced with an unreadable page is to press 
ctrl-A to select and highlight everything... works most of the time.


Can you post the url of your home page (or similar page) so we can see 
the need?


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Re: SMTP problem -- who's at fault?

2010-08-28 Thread Beverly Howard

 How do I do SMTP authentication? 

Depends on the service... but within seamonkey mail at the connection 
where you have the problem


edit/mailaccountsettings/outgoing/select/edit

Start with simply use name and password (normally your mail login) and 
TLS if available and if that does not work, try SSL


Most isp's will have instructions or tech support to answer the above 
questions, although time warner's default response is smtp is not 
included in your service


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Re: Change Font Color???

2010-08-28 Thread Beverly Howard

 http://www.aol.com/ 

Looks fine to me... might check the change your background at the top 
right or you may have accidentally changed SM default settings.


Check edit/appearance/colors... should be black text and white background

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Re: edit with

2010-08-27 Thread Beverly Howard

 How do I set SeaMonkey Composer to be the
Edit With answer for .HTM  files under windows XP? 

A related question;

it used to be possible to set an external text editor to directly edit 
the html source, but that has been removed.


Is there any way to set that in the current incarnation of composer?  If 
not, anyone know of a kludge to launch a text editor based on the 
current file and location being edited.


(While the current source editor is usable it is really a pain after 
using an advanced text editor with options such as syntax highlighting.)


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Re: cant position images, cant drag them around the page to position them?

2010-08-27 Thread Beverly Howard

 images seem to stick together and i cant reposition them 

The simplest approach to get started is to add at least two carriage 
returns after each image...


This will put them on sequential lines as well as make it easy to type 
text and descriptions for each image.


Assuming you are using SeaMonkey's composer there are a number of 
editing options after you get the images unstuck, but, at the same 
time, it's important to grasp the understanding that the web is not a 
good place to force layouts since there are so many different computer 
configurations out there.


some options are;

image properties allows some control... i.e. if the image is in a line 
of text, setting the text to top/center/bottom or wrap  (wrap works 
best with a lot of text per image)


tables are an excellent way to position images.

A great illustrator on how this can be done is to install 
http://irfanview.com then run irfanview's thumbnail view


select a lot of thumbnails then rightclick them and ask irfanview to 
create an html page with the selected images.  Once the page is created, 
you can open it in the seamonkey composer and both learn and do what you 
need to do.  Think Picasa will do the same but don't have any experience 
on how clean the code it produces is.


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Re: Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired

2010-08-27 Thread Beverly Howard

Thanks for the memory jogs... will post a bug report today.

bugzilla

Two thoughts...

imho, reporting bugs and/or reporting problems should be 
discoverable on the seamonkey site pointing to the link


bugzilla is use by a number of projects many not remotely connected to 
mozilla, which reinforces the need to facilitate seamonkey user searches 
for reporting options without knowing these terms.


 be prepared for some one... 

I've use bugzilla in the past, both for mozilla (netscape) as well as 
non mozilla projects, and, while I know it's a necessary evil, I flat 
hate it... but I will record the bug.


Thanks everyone,
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Re: Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired

2010-08-27 Thread Beverly Howard

 Other related bugs (from a quick glance):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516586
[Account Settings dialog cuts off buttons, needs to be wider]
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416263
[Account Settings dialog box too big for some screens (like asus EeePC)
- can't be resized or scrolled] 

Excellent... thanks... will add my op to one of these.

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Re: Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired

2010-08-27 Thread Beverly Howard

Posted as a comment (23) to bugzilla 416263

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416263

(My feelings with respect to bugzilla have been reinforced ;-)

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Re: Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired

2010-08-27 Thread Beverly Howard

 when I suggest something, I do it for a reason 

Told you I was a newbie ;-)

How should it be structured... i.e. make it _not_ TB specific and an 
across platform bug report?


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Re: How to set SeaMonkey Mail preview window font size.?

2010-08-26 Thread Beverly Howard

 How do I set SeaMonkey Mail preview window font size.?  

There used to be an about:config setting for this, but it seems to be gone.

The short term solution is to click somewhere in the text window and 
press ctrl +


Gonna check and see if this might have migrated to a preferences setting.

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Re: How to set SeaMonkey Mail preview window font size.?

2010-08-26 Thread Beverly Howard

 Minimum font size does it for me. In the pref-appearance-fonts  

Great minds think alike...

However, noted that the choices in the edit/pref/mail/msgdisplay are 
fixed and variable so, found that the monospace size setting 
directly impacts plain text message display font size.


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Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired

2010-08-26 Thread Beverly Howard
A quick request for the hard working sm programmers and contributers 
since I at least partially fall into the Aged and Vision Impaired 
category.


Ironically, using a large high resolution monitor (mine is a 23 LCD TV 
set at 1920x1080) creates a large number of font readability problems, 
and, over the years, I have learned how to deal with most of them.


One basic step is to set the display properties/settings/advanced/DPI to 
Large size (120 dpi)  Recently, even this has proven to be 
insufficient for my vision, so, I recently set it to a custom value of 
150DPI.


When I did this SeaMonkey presented me with a serious problem trying to 
use the Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings screen.  This screen has 
no sizing options and, at the 150DPI setting the window exceeds the 
size of the screen.


The default problem is that you cannot get to the OK, Cancel, Help 
buttons.  The only option for me was to select the Move option to move 
the bottom edge of the window over to my second monitor.


Then it get's crazy.  SM remembers the screen position and the next 
time this window is opened, it opens with the buttons visible, but the 
top of the screen inacessbile.  At that point, the only option is to 
remember that Alt-space brings up the Move menu, and M then allows 
you to drag the window to get to the top fields.


The simple solution would be to assure that _all_ SM windows have scroll 
bars and sizing options.


A reduced sized screen shot at 
http://bevhoward.com/stuff/images/OverSize.gif
shows how the mail settings window is clipped when openen in the 
1920x1080 monitor.


Thanks in advance for any consideration to this problem.
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Re: Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired

2010-08-26 Thread Beverly Howard
 Beverly, could you take care of that please and post the bug number 
here? 


I have no idea how to do this...

...and, as far as I can see, there is nothing on the seamonkey.org site 
pointing to any method for reporting bugs.


I did attempt to post mozilla bug issues years ago and found that it was 
a frustrating and maddening process.


Give me a link and I will make the original post.

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Re: itms is not a registered protocol

2010-08-24 Thread Beverly Howard

 itms is not a registered protocol 

   I'm running into the above error message as I research iOS apps 
located on itunes apps section.  


 I don't have itunes installed, and I don't get the error you 
describe. The URL redirects to 
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sketchbook-pro/id364253478?mt=8 ...



Very interesting... I pulled the url I posted from a link on a different 
site and with your post I note that it resolved to the same url you posted.


  ...which loads fine. The beginning of that page reads:
...We are unable to find iTunes on your computer 

However, when I go to that page using either url, I get the full page of 
information for the Sketchbook app followed by the itms error.


I think the difference is that my wife has an itunes account which I 
have accessed on this computer, so I am assuming that a cookie 
associated with that login is why I can get to that page while you can't.


More interesting, I just logged in to that account, then went to the url 
and got the page without the error message.


Thanks for the feedback... very informative.  I will report back if I 
learn more.


Apple really thinks highly of their app... despite the unreasonable 
demands that it makes on any pc that it ends up on ;-/


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itms is not a registered protocol

2010-08-23 Thread Beverly Howard

 itms is not a registered protocol 

I'm running into the above error message as I research iOS apps located 
on itunes apps section.


While I assume that it is not going to be an addressable issue with SM 
(search results for this error primarily referenced firefox) wonder if 
there is any way to simply have it acknowledged and do something like go 
to a null to stop the error from both popping up and yanking me over to 
the tab when I want to remain on the search page?


A sample url that creates this error is;

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sketchbook-pro/id364253478?mt=8partnerId=30siteID=MK9zFimXC*U

Any thoughts appreciated...
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Re: itms is not a registered protocol

2010-08-23 Thread Beverly Howard

 itms is not a registered protocol 

 I'm running into the above error message as I research iOS apps 
located on itunes apps section.  


Looks like the error occurs when the user does NOT have itunes installed 
on the computer when browsing apps. 
http://www.apple.com/itunes/linkmaker/faq/


Question remains... how to prevent this from generating an error on a 
computer without itunes installed (installing itunes is not an option)


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Re: Messed up Messages

2010-08-18 Thread Beverly Howard

 I recently updated our mail server and two users are getting some
additional text in some messages 

Looks like your server email spam filter config is incorrect... normally 
this (spam rules results) information is embedded in the header, but 
assume that the header line is incorrect or your config is not marked to 
put it in the header.


Hope that this information is of value.
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Re: Opening links in Seamonkey

2010-08-15 Thread Beverly Howard

 My apology, Beverly, for assuming you were a woman! 

...not to mention a different perspective on women's rights ;-)

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Re: Opening links in Seamonkey

2010-08-15 Thread Beverly Howard

 My apology, Beverly, for assuming you were a woman! 

No apoloogy necessary... as Mr. Cash noted singing Shel's song, made me 
strong growing up, and I have been having fun with it ever since ;-)


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Re: Opening links in Seamonkey

2010-08-13 Thread Beverly Howard

 her 

;-)

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Re: URL links not active?

2010-08-13 Thread Beverly Howard




Test

http:\\mysite.com

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Re: URL links not active?

2010-08-13 Thread Beverly Howard

test html  plain

http://mysite.com

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Re: URL links not active?

2010-08-13 Thread Beverly Howard

 Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not*
clickable. 

fwiw, I just got one of these emails that contained a fully qualified 
http url address and it did NOT form into a clickable link.


I changed my view message body as setting to plain text and the text 
formed into a link.


My assumption that if text within an html only was a url it would not 
form is incorrect.


I am looking through the trash for that message and will report back.

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Re: URL links not active?

2010-08-13 Thread Beverly Howard

 Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not*
clickable. 

 fwiw, I just got one of these emails that contained a fully 
qualified http url address and it did NOT form into a clickable link.  


Found it and confirmed it.

here is a gif screenshot http://bevhoward.com/stuff/images/NoClick.gif 
of the link text in the seamonkey email reader set to original html 
showing that the valid url text did not render as a link.  Obviously, it 
is not clickable


The plain text message source shows;

===
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--_=_NextPart_001_01CB3A61.E32850E0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=20

=20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvYAWrkvyYdcfeature=3Drelated



The html section of the message source shows;



p =
class=3DMsoNormalhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvYAWrkvyYdcamp;featur=
e=3Drelatedo:p/o:p/p



The message was produced by;



X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0



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Re: Tabnabbing: A New Type of Phishing Attack

2010-08-12 Thread Beverly Howard
Be aware of the fact that the first link in the op _executes_ the 
attack!  While this page may be benevolent, it is deceptive and it does 
solicit a login!!!


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