Syncing bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

I've been using the EverSync add-on to sync bookmarks between Seamonkey and 
Firefox on various computers. Eversync lets me keep everything current, with 
the ability to continue using Seamonkey's excellent bookmark manager for 
keeping things organized.

Lately though I have to continually logout and log back in to Eversnyc after 
I've organized any new bookmarks in Seamonkey. This isn't that big a deal, but 
when I forget to do it on one computer or another, I lose my latest bookmarks.

Eversync has essentially no technical support, despite being a product that 
requires a monthly fee, so I'm unable to get any help from them.

Are there any other bookmark sync options out there that work well with 
Seamonkey?

In the past I've used Seamonkey's old internal sync; Xmarks; BookmarkSync; and 
probably a few others! But none of those options work any more.

(Firefox has its own Sync function, but I can't figure out any way to use it 
with Seamonkey.)
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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote on 30/08/2020 8:56 PM:

On 08/28/2020 01:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM:

[ *SNIP* ]
Just created a new profile as test case.
It behaves as you have described.


Clarification: For the new profile doing Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks 
displays a two pane view of "Bookmarks Manager".




HOWEVER;
If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my 
test profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a 
Tools->Restore. >>

Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful.
Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from 
existing profile to the new profile.


"the restore was successful"  in that you now have two panes?? ;-)



I closed SeaMonkey. Opened it using old profile. Did a Tools->Backup to 
a clean directory and closed SeaMonkey.


I opened SeaMonkey using the new profile. I did a Tools->Restore using 
the file just created.


I received a vague error message but but a spot check of bookmark 
contents showed no errors. The Bookmark Manager displayed two panes.


Yeah!! Perseverance wins out!
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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/28/2020 01:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM:

[ *SNIP* ]
Just created a new profile as test case.
It behaves as you have described.


Clarification: For the new profile doing Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks 
displays a two pane view of "Bookmarks Manager".




HOWEVER;
If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test 
profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore. >>

Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful.
Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from 
existing profile to the new profile.


"the restore was successful"  in that you now have two panes?? ;-)



I closed SeaMonkey. Opened it using old profile. Did a Tools->Backup to 
a clean directory and closed SeaMonkey.


I opened SeaMonkey using the new profile. I did a Tools->Restore using 
the file just created.


I received a vague error message but but a spot check of bookmark 
contents showed no errors. The Bookmark Manager displayed two panes.




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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM:

On 08/27/2020 01:41 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM:
[ *SNIP* ]


Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test 
machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is 
evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey.


As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different 
times I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit 
SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of 
Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have 
done/haven't done!


Just what did I do? 
Just created a new profile as test case.
It behaves as you have described.

HOWEVER;
If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test 
profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore.


Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful.
Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from 
existing profile to the new profile.


"the restore was successful"  in that you now have two panes?? ;-)
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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/27/2020 01:41 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM:
[ *SNIP* ]


Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test 
machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is 
evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey.


As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different times 
I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit 
SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of 
Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have done/haven't 
done!


Just what did I do? 
Just created a new profile as test case.
It behaves as you have described.

HOWEVER;
If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test 
profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore.


Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful.
Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from 
existing profile to the new profile.




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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM:

On 08/26/2020 01:48 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM:

On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different 
place in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible 
to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


[snip]
I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders 
within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. 
Some may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location 
in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/

[snip]


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now 
being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title 
for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' 
icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted 
bookmarks only appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your 
subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the 
left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but 
it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple 
monitors![snip]


I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager".
I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2]
Using the menu choice   Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks
I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to 
display a second pane.


Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections  in the Left Hand 
section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, 
Bookmarks Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select 
one of those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks 
that you have in that folders??


If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the 
screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might 
expose the second pane??


Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test 
machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently 
a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey.


As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different times 
I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit 
SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of 
Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have done/haven't 
done!

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RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/26/2020 01:48 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM:

On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different 
place in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible 
to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


[snip]
I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. 
Some may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location 
in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/

[snip]


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now 
being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title 
for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' 
icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted 
bookmarks only appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your 
subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the 
left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but 
it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple 
monitors![snip]


I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager".
I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2]
Using the menu choice   Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks
I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to 
display a second pane.


Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections  in the Left Hand 
section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, Bookmarks 
Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select one of 
those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks that you 
have in that folders??


If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the 
screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might 
expose the second pane??


Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test 
machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently 
a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey.





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Re: Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Daniel]

Bill Spikowski wrote on 26/08/2020 4:41 AM:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted 
some experimentation.


Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then 
clicking "Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles.


Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor 
yields a not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles.


I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line 
where there would have been one or more bookmarks.


I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder 
structure.


Later.


Here's how it looks on one of my computers.

It's always opened for me with two panes; it would be enormously less 
useful if the second pane wasn't available!


Ditto!!  as I've just tried to explain to Richard! (Hmm!! A pictures 
worth how many words?? ;-P )

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Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM:

On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different 
place in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible 
to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


[snip]
I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some 
may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location 
in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/

[snip]


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now 
being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for 
top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, 
plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only 
appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your 
subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the 
left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but 
it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple 
monitors![snip]


I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager".
I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2]
Using the menu choice   Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks
I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to 
display a second pane.


Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections  in the Left Hand 
section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, Bookmarks 
Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select one of 
those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks that you 
have in that folders??


If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the 
screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might 
expose the second pane??

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Re: Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA




Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted some 
experimentation.

Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking 
"Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles.

Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields a 
not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles.

I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where there 
would have been one or more bookmarks.

I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure.

Later.



Here's how it looks on one of my computers.

It's always opened for me with two panes; it would be enormously less useful if 
the second pane wasn't available!
 


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Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA




Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted 
some experimentation.


Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking 
"Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles.


Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields 
a not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles.


I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where 
there would have been one or more bookmarks.


I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure.

Later.





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BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


[snip]
I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some 
may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in 
the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/

[snip]


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being 
called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for 
top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, 
plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only 
appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right 
pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great 
on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors![snip]


I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager".
I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2]
Using the menu choice   Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks
I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to 
display a second pane.



[1]
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Build identifier: 20180711182954
[2]
I'm using i386 Debian on this machine due to historical reasons.
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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

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Bill Spikowski a écrit :

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem 
moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.


I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some 
may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in 
the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/


As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only 
folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure?


Thank you.



My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so 
quickly, I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the 
ability to sync bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks 
from anywhere suddenly made the organizational effort worthwhile.


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being 
called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for 
top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, 
plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only 
appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right 
pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great 
on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors!


The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a 
limited number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying 
too much about subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my 
long-suffering spouse, to little avail -- at heart she's as compulsively 
organized as I am, but she's so overwhelmed by her current mess of a 
bookmark collection that she just can't get started dealing with it...)




Does your computers on same network? if so, the whole profile can be 
shared , not only bookmarks :)

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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in 
logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to 
Netscape days.

As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no 
problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's 
what prompted my post ;/

As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder 
titles while displaying their logical tree structure?

Thank you.



My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, 
I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync 
bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly 
made the organizational effort worthwhile.

Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 
'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus 
subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the 
bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane.

But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. 
This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large 
monitor, and even better with multiple monitors!

The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited 
number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about 
subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little 
avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so 
overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't 
get started dealing with it...)



One more tip -- I now have my first-tier folder structure 'sorta' follow the 
way I organize files on my hard drive. Not that I used a brilliant method there 
either, but since I've gotten used to it over time, it made sense to mirror it 
with my bookmark folder structure. Now when I try to find something, at least I 
have only ONE idiosyncratic system to decipher
 




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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in 
logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to 
Netscape days.

As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no 
problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's 
what prompted my post ;/

As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder 
titles while displaying their logical tree structure?

Thank you.



My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, 
I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync 
bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly 
made the organizational effort worthwhile.

Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 
'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus 
subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the 
bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane.

But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. 
This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large 
monitor, and even better with multiple monitors!

The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited 
number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about 
subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little 
avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so 
overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't 
get started dealing with it...)
 
 


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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/23/2020 04:22 PM, EE wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA



You can use cut & paste.  Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-v is paste.



*ROFL* !



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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem 
moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.


I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture 
folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill 
down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while 
reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some 
in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may 
date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in 
the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/


As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only 
folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure?


Thank you.


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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[EE]

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA



You can use cut & paste.  Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-v is paste.

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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Bill Spikowski]

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.
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Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

[Richard Owlett]

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


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Re: Transferring Bookmarks to Firefox

[jcteyssier1]

Le mercredi 18 mars 2020 15:26:34 UTC+1, Chuck a écrit :
> How is this done in Seamonkey 2.49.5 to Firefox
> Somehow this occurred on my wife's computer without out my knowing how 
> it happened.
> They just appeared?
> But I cannot figure how yo do it on my computer
> Thanks, Chuck

Several years ago i simply replace fresh Firefox profile directory by 
seamonkey's one: all was working :)
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Re: Transferring Bookmarks to Firefox

[EE]

Chuck wrote:

How is this done in Seamonkey 2.49.5 to Firefox
Somehow this occurred on my wife's computer without out my knowing how 
it happened.

They just appeared?
But I cannot figure how yo do it on my computer
Thanks, Chuck


Export bookmarks as HTML, then import them.
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Transferring Bookmarks to Firefox

[Chuck]

How is this done in Seamonkey 2.49.5 to Firefox
Somehow this occurred on my wife's computer without out my knowing how 
it happened.

They just appeared?
But I cannot figure how yo do it on my computer
Thanks, Chuck
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Re: Manage Bookmarks on 2.53.1 is weird

[Tom Pamin]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
This is basically a port of the Firefox library now. Too much was 
broken so I took a sledge hammer. New bookmarks default to other 
bookmarks but can be switched to the bookmarks menu when saving.


I miss being able to edit the Description when using "File Bookmark...". 
  -JW


Not sure what you mean about editing the description. I'm still on 2.49.5.

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Re: Manage Bookmarks on 2.53.1 is weird

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
This is basically a port of the Firefox library now. Too much was broken 
so I took a sledge hammer. New bookmarks default to other bookmarks but 
can be switched to the bookmarks menu when saving.


I miss being able to edit the Description when using "File Bookmark...". 
 -JW

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Re: Manage Bookmarks on 2.53.1 is weird

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Cheryl wrote:
I have to click on the header, Bookmarks Menu, to see the bookmarks and I know 
that ain't right.  Some bookmarks were sent to Other bookmarks for some reason.




This is basically a port of the Firefox library now. Too much was broken so I 
took a sledge hammer. New bookmarks default to other bookmarks but can be 
switched to the bookmarks menu when saving.


FRG
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Manage Bookmarks on 2.53.1 is weird

[Cheryl]

I have to click on the header, Bookmarks Menu, to see the bookmarks and 
I know that ain't right.  Some bookmarks were sent to Other bookmarks 
for some reason.


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From "BrowsER HISTORY" to "BrowsING BOOKMARKS"

[Richard Owlett]

*carpe lector*
Weird capitalization of subject line *IS* significant.

I recently asked questions in support of a personal project on 3 fora:
  a OS specific forum
  a programing language forum
  a hardware forum.

I, *naively*, thought my phraseology would adequately define my 
"universe of discourse" ;/

ROFL - did not work out that way.
On all fora I got replies including URLs relevant to all 3 "universes".

On initial visit, *VERY FEW* few rated a bookmark.
*notice* the cop-out above? rofl

I visited a plethora of URLs.

Has anyone created a tool which would suggest links to be bookmarked?

TIA



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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

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On 2/16/2020 2:49 AM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/15/2020 9:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 2/11/2020 12:35 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>> I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to
>>>> appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> For bookmarks, have you considered adding comments instead of
>>> color-coding?  A comment can be something simple such as #, $, %, *, A,
>>> x, etc, to flag the bookmark.
>>>
>>> To add a comment:
>>>
>>> 1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks].
>>>
>>> 2.  On the Bookmarks Manager window, select any single bookmark and then
>>> select the More button near the bottomm-left of the right-hand pane.
>>>
>>> 3.  Now select any single bookmark that you wish to highlight.  In the
>>> Description area, type a character.
>>>
>>> NOTE:  The Description area appears only when a single bookmark is
>>> selected.  Whatever you enter will appear below the bookmark.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, you can append -- with leading spaces -- flagging
>>> characters at the end of the names of bookmarks.  In this case, what you
>>> enter will appear on the same line as the bookmark.
>>>
>>> Whichever way you do this, the characters you enter will appear whenever
>>> you export your bookmarks to an HTML file.  I export my bookmarks every
>>> time I terminate SeaMonkey.  In my profile, I inserted the following
>>> into file user.js:
>>> user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
>>> // automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
>>> The semi-colon (;) at the end of the first line is mandatory.  The
>>> second line is merely a comment -- indicated by the double virgules (//)
>>> at the beginning -- to remind me why I have this.
>>>
>>
>> As for your passwords, there is no equivalent.  I would question
>> printing out your passwords from SeaMonkey unless you are going to
>> deposit the printout in a safe deposit box at a bank.
>>
>> On the other hand, if you have passwords for sites where you do not have
>> critical data (e.g., not  personal or financial), you might try
>> something similar to what I do.  When I set such a password, I first
>> enter it into a text file before entering it into SeaMonkey.  My text
>> file does not allow colors, but you could use a Word file that allows
>> the use of colors.  Just remember that this is not appropriate for
>> passwords you want to keep secure.
>>
>> I have three lists of passwords on my PC:
>>
>> *  One is plain text for passwords for sites where logging-on merely
>> brings up the settings I want to use.  These generally are for
>> site-specific forums.   I do not care if someone discovers these
>> passwords.
>>
>> *  The second is also plain text but saved with strong encryption.  This
>> too is for sites where logging-on merely brings up the settings I want
>> but could be subject to serious malicious actions by others.  These are
>> generally for sites where I make purchases.
>>
>> *  The third is a spread sheet that is also saved with strong
>> encryption.  This is for financial services, modem, router, utilities,
>> Medicare, Social Security, ISPs, etc, sites where I could lose
>> significant funds or suffer identity theft.  I change these passwords at
>> last annually, and no two sites have the same passwords.
>>
>> NOTE:  All three lists contain passwords that are NOT dictionary words.
>> They are random strings of letters, numbers, and symbols.  I do not need
>> dictionary words if I have these lists.
>>
> Actually I do put a copy with the bank. I'm not clear on how you enter 
> your text files into SM?
> 

I enter my text files in Windows, not SeaMonkey.  My password files are
on a drive that is NOT my C-drive.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Thomas Pamin]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/11/2020 12:35 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?



For bookmarks, have you considered adding comments instead of
color-coding?  A comment can be something simple such as #, $, %, *, A,
x, etc, to flag the bookmark.

To add a comment:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks].

2.  On the Bookmarks Manager window, select any single bookmark and then
select the More button near the bottomm-left of the right-hand pane.

3.  Now select any single bookmark that you wish to highlight.  In the
Description area, type a character.

NOTE:  The Description area appears only when a single bookmark is
selected.  Whatever you enter will appear below the bookmark.

Alternatively, you can append -- with leading spaces -- flagging
characters at the end of the names of bookmarks.  In this case, what you
enter will appear on the same line as the bookmark.

Whichever way you do this, the characters you enter will appear whenever
you export your bookmarks to an HTML file.  I export my bookmarks every
time I terminate SeaMonkey.  In my profile, I inserted the following
into file user.js:
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
The semi-colon (;) at the end of the first line is mandatory.  The
second line is merely a comment -- indicated by the double virgules (//)
at the beginning -- to remind me why I have this.

I do use the description area for passwords. It's a great way to keep 
track of passwords for each site. I also export my bookmarks to an html 
file upon closing SM. I would just like some in red to designate 
important ones. Copying them from html to Word seems to be one good way 
to do it.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Thomas Pamin]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/15/2020 9:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/11/2020 12:35 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?



For bookmarks, have you considered adding comments instead of
color-coding?  A comment can be something simple such as #, $, %, *, A,
x, etc, to flag the bookmark.

To add a comment:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks].

2.  On the Bookmarks Manager window, select any single bookmark and then
select the More button near the bottomm-left of the right-hand pane.

3.  Now select any single bookmark that you wish to highlight.  In the
Description area, type a character.

NOTE:  The Description area appears only when a single bookmark is
selected.  Whatever you enter will appear below the bookmark.

Alternatively, you can append -- with leading spaces -- flagging
characters at the end of the names of bookmarks.  In this case, what you
enter will appear on the same line as the bookmark.

Whichever way you do this, the characters you enter will appear whenever
you export your bookmarks to an HTML file.  I export my bookmarks every
time I terminate SeaMonkey.  In my profile, I inserted the following
into file user.js:
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
The semi-colon (;) at the end of the first line is mandatory.  The
second line is merely a comment -- indicated by the double virgules (//)
at the beginning -- to remind me why I have this.



As for your passwords, there is no equivalent.  I would question
printing out your passwords from SeaMonkey unless you are going to
deposit the printout in a safe deposit box at a bank.

On the other hand, if you have passwords for sites where you do not have
critical data (e.g., not  personal or financial), you might try
something similar to what I do.  When I set such a password, I first
enter it into a text file before entering it into SeaMonkey.  My text
file does not allow colors, but you could use a Word file that allows
the use of colors.  Just remember that this is not appropriate for
passwords you want to keep secure.

I have three lists of passwords on my PC:

*  One is plain text for passwords for sites where logging-on merely
brings up the settings I want to use.  These generally are for
site-specific forums.   I do not care if someone discovers these
passwords.

*  The second is also plain text but saved with strong encryption.  This
too is for sites where logging-on merely brings up the settings I want
but could be subject to serious malicious actions by others.  These are
generally for sites where I make purchases.

*  The third is a spread sheet that is also saved with strong
encryption.  This is for financial services, modem, router, utilities,
Medicare, Social Security, ISPs, etc, sites where I could lose
significant funds or suffer identity theft.  I change these passwords at
last annually, and no two sites have the same passwords.

NOTE:  All three lists contain passwords that are NOT dictionary words.
They are random strings of letters, numbers, and symbols.  I do not need
dictionary words if I have these lists.

Actually I do put a copy with the bank. I'm not clear on how you enter 
your text files into SM?

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Thomas Pamin]

Ray_Net wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote on 15-02-20 11:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import 
your modified html file.


AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color 
attribute ?


When I print the whole list, I'd like some bookmark titles and extra 
info about them to be in red.


Perhaps copy/paste the html file into WORD then select text and modify 
the foreground color ?


I see that does work, but I have 99 pages of BM's. I only need a fairly 
small number to be in red, so I'll have to play with this a bit. Thanks.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Ray_Net]

Richard Alan wrote on 15-02-20 18:22:

Ray_Net wrote:


Thomas Pamin wrote on 15-02-20 11:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:

I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?

Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page
...

It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import
your modified html file.

AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color
attribute ?

When I print the whole list, I'd like some bookmark titles and extra
info about them to be in red.

Perhaps copy/paste the html file into WORD then select text and modify
the foreground color ?

Only if it is just to be printed. You won't be able to re-import the file
into the browser as Word will add so much word-processing code to the file
it will be rendered useless for the browser.

YES - Just What Thomas siad: to appear and be PRINTED in red.
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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[David E. Ross]

On 2/15/2020 9:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 2/11/2020 12:35 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
>> I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
>> appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?
>>
> 
> For bookmarks, have you considered adding comments instead of
> color-coding?  A comment can be something simple such as #, $, %, *, A,
> x, etc, to flag the bookmark.
> 
> To add a comment:
> 
> 1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks].
> 
> 2.  On the Bookmarks Manager window, select any single bookmark and then
> select the More button near the bottomm-left of the right-hand pane.
> 
> 3.  Now select any single bookmark that you wish to highlight.  In the
> Description area, type a character.
> 
> NOTE:  The Description area appears only when a single bookmark is
> selected.  Whatever you enter will appear below the bookmark.
> 
> Alternatively, you can append -- with leading spaces -- flagging
> characters at the end of the names of bookmarks.  In this case, what you
> enter will appear on the same line as the bookmark.
> 
> Whichever way you do this, the characters you enter will appear whenever
> you export your bookmarks to an HTML file.  I export my bookmarks every
> time I terminate SeaMonkey.  In my profile, I inserted the following
> into file user.js:
>   user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
>   // automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
> The semi-colon (;) at the end of the first line is mandatory.  The
> second line is merely a comment -- indicated by the double virgules (//)
> at the beginning -- to remind me why I have this.
> 

As for your passwords, there is no equivalent.  I would question
printing out your passwords from SeaMonkey unless you are going to
deposit the printout in a safe deposit box at a bank.

On the other hand, if you have passwords for sites where you do not have
critical data (e.g., not  personal or financial), you might try
something similar to what I do.  When I set such a password, I first
enter it into a text file before entering it into SeaMonkey.  My text
file does not allow colors, but you could use a Word file that allows
the use of colors.  Just remember that this is not appropriate for
passwords you want to keep secure.

I have three lists of passwords on my PC:

*  One is plain text for passwords for sites where logging-on merely
brings up the settings I want to use.  These generally are for
site-specific forums.   I do not care if someone discovers these
passwords.

*  The second is also plain text but saved with strong encryption.  This
too is for sites where logging-on merely brings up the settings I want
but could be subject to serious malicious actions by others.  These are
generally for sites where I make purchases.

*  The third is a spread sheet that is also saved with strong
encryption.  This is for financial services, modem, router, utilities,
Medicare, Social Security, ISPs, etc, sites where I could lose
significant funds or suffer identity theft.  I change these passwords at
last annually, and no two sites have the same passwords.

NOTE:  All three lists contain passwords that are NOT dictionary words.
They are random strings of letters, numbers, and symbols.  I do not need
dictionary words if I have these lists.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[David E. Ross]

On 2/11/2020 12:35 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
> I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
> appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?
> 

For bookmarks, have you considered adding comments instead of
color-coding?  A comment can be something simple such as #, $, %, *, A,
x, etc, to flag the bookmark.

To add a comment:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks].

2.  On the Bookmarks Manager window, select any single bookmark and then
select the More button near the bottomm-left of the right-hand pane.

3.  Now select any single bookmark that you wish to highlight.  In the
Description area, type a character.

NOTE:  The Description area appears only when a single bookmark is
selected.  Whatever you enter will appear below the bookmark.

Alternatively, you can append -- with leading spaces -- flagging
characters at the end of the names of bookmarks.  In this case, what you
enter will appear on the same line as the bookmark.

Whichever way you do this, the characters you enter will appear whenever
you export your bookmarks to an HTML file.  I export my bookmarks every
time I terminate SeaMonkey.  In my profile, I inserted the following
into file user.js:
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
The semi-colon (;) at the end of the first line is mandatory.  The
second line is merely a comment -- indicated by the double virgules (//)
at the beginning -- to remind me why I have this.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Richard Alan]

Ray_Net wrote:

> Thomas Pamin wrote on 15-02-20 11:33:
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:
>>>> Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
>>>>> I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to
>>>>> appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?
>>>>
>>>> Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page
>>>> ...
>>> It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import
>>> your modified html file.
>>>
>>> AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color
>>> attribute ?
>>
>> When I print the whole list, I'd like some bookmark titles and extra
>> info about them to be in red.
> 
> Perhaps copy/paste the html file into WORD then select text and modify
> the foreground color ?

Only if it is just to be printed. You won't be able to re-import the file 
into the browser as Word will add so much word-processing code to the file 
it will be rendered useless for the browser.
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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Ray_Net]

Thomas Pamin wrote on 15-02-20 11:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import 
your modified html file.


AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color 
attribute ?


When I print the whole list, I'd like some bookmark titles and extra 
info about them to be in red.


Perhaps copy/paste the html file into WORD then select text and modify 
the foreground color ?

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Thomas Pamin]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import your 
modified html file.


AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color attribute ?


When I print the whole list, I'd like some bookmark titles and extra 
info about them to be in red.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import your 
modified html file.


AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color attribute ?
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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Daniel]

EE wrote on 14/02/2020 7:22 AM:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/12/2020 4:56 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 2/12/20 7:09 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:

I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...


Not sure how to modify the web page?


Does this help?

<https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_colors.asp>

Export the bookmarks into the bookmarks.html file.
Open it in a text editor.
Edit the bookmarks.
Save the file.

I'm not sure if importing the file back into SeaMonkey would overwrite
the bookmarks or make duplicates.



I believe importing from the exported HTML file will erase your browsing
history.  Furthermore, I do not think changes to the HTML (e.g., color)
will import and might even corrupt the import.


Importing HTML bookmarks appends.  It does not overwrite.


Yeap! As per my earlier reply.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/12/2020 4:56 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 2/12/20 7:09 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:

I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...


Not sure how to modify the web page?


Does this help?

<https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_colors.asp>

Export the bookmarks into the bookmarks.html file.
Open it in a text editor.
Edit the bookmarks.
Save the file.

I'm not sure if importing the file back into SeaMonkey would overwrite
the bookmarks or make duplicates.



I believe importing from the exported HTML file will erase your browsing
history.  Furthermore, I do not think changes to the HTML (e.g., color)
will import and might even corrupt the import.


Importing HTML bookmarks appends.  It does not overwrite.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:


I believe importing from the exported HTML file will erase your
browsing history.  Furthermore, I do not think changes to the HTML
(e.g., color) will import and might even corrupt the import.


You could always save the modified bookmarks.html as a local file and 
bookmark it, then open it in the browser and go from there.


The downside, of course, is that you couldn't easily add bookmarks as 
you do with SM's native bookmark database. You'd have to edit 
bookmarks.html with a text editor as you just did.


My recommendation is to drag your favorite bookmarks up to the top of 
the list (in the Bookmark Manager) and organize the rest into folders so 
you can find them easily. No colors, sorry.


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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[David E. Ross]

On 2/12/2020 4:56 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 2/12/20 7:09 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
>>>> I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
>>>> appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?
>>>
>>> Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
>>
>> Not sure how to modify the web page?
> 
> Does this help?
> 
> <https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_colors.asp>
> 
> Export the bookmarks into the bookmarks.html file.
> Open it in a text editor.
> Edit the bookmarks.
> Save the file.
> 
> I'm not sure if importing the file back into SeaMonkey would overwrite 
> the bookmarks or make duplicates.
> 

I believe importing from the exported HTML file will erase your browsing
history.  Furthermore, I do not think changes to the HTML (e.g., color)
will import and might even corrupt the import.

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Thomas Pamin]

Richard Alan wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


I tried Notepad and Word. Too much coding for me to try and pick out
bookmarks. Am I doing it right?


As Walt said, "text editor." Use Notepad. You don't want to be doing
coding in any word processor.


I just get this in Notepad. What do I do now?

ICON_URI="https://www.thecarconnection.com/favicon.ico; 
ICON="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoNSUhEUgAAACAgCAYAAABzenr0AAADGElEQVRYhe2WP0wTURzHb3G4WxiEpJoYtwZHob07QBlsyw3Yf9deSQUGxJwlDkYNDpiagri4CIKJwNQO8m8Dhy6iMJyJgaGBpQuQGE3Ymkv3r8M73r27tsgkDG3yTV7efe/e597v+7s+TugawEWKawI0AZoATYBLAJCCIF+AulIWgDWxs3fQUPLwOARZgyBrSDzqRrHQBtPgYBocVheuQ1RDKBbaICZC1CcPj2Pj+09UzCoAoFQ+wsDLd5hb+QL9zUcKYgFoAIDjPycolY9qxsrYawhSAkszN+nCxUIbBfn19QpMg0NwsBeClIQ+NY/TX6l8hJ29AwpSMat4u7RmgabACbIGQUoCAKaXVqFksmS8uELHSiYLdVSGaXAw1lvgVRTw/jh4fxxeRYGx3gLT4BB4cBft0QwqZhUVswolk6U+T2AYhc0tACAAEtkpTpCSEMQEMfpiUB6/IgALy+B9UUsxFPOtMA0O3r4+8L6YQ57efgTSd+Dp7cf04goAQJ/84PT5Y+D9cSiZLG5FxyBISRuAF1ULIApFn7AAPoPvDFuKkG3PtzJQ9bW9uw8Ada7ZELyonhOg4z74DgJBATojZwBEbIAaX4yWowbALkEDgI4wivmrpAShIHif8+HevhAC6W54Q0FMLyyTEuRmGR95e8+9ISiZLOShFyyA5sxAAwB1xE9CuNZiQZDFA+ke2gXeUBDt4VE7hPoEBWiP6CiVDwnc1DwDIGsQpAR4UYU0+Iyajn

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Daniel]

WaltS48 wrote on 13/02/2020 11:56 AM:

On 2/12/20 7:09 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...


Not sure how to modify the web page?


Does this help?

<https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_colors.asp>

Export the bookmarks into the bookmarks.html file.
Open it in a text editor.
Edit the bookmarks.
Save the file.

I'm not sure if importing the file back into SeaMonkey would overwrite 
the bookmarks or make duplicates.


I ended up with four copies of my Bookmarks in my Bookmarks file by 
repeatedly re-importing old copies of Bookmarks file back into my main 
Bookmarks file!!


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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Tom Pamin]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 2/12/20 7:09 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...


Not sure how to modify the web page?


Does this help?

<https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_colors.asp>

Export the bookmarks into the bookmarks.html file.
Open it in a text editor.
Edit the bookmarks.
Save the file.

I'm not sure if importing the file back into SeaMonkey would overwrite 
the bookmarks or make duplicates.


I tried Notepad and Word. Too much coding for me to try and pick out 
bookmarks. Am I doing it right?

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[WaltS48]

On 2/12/20 7:09 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...


Not sure how to modify the web page?


Does this help?

<https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_colors.asp>

Export the bookmarks into the bookmarks.html file.
Open it in a text editor.
Edit the bookmarks.
Save the file.

I'm not sure if importing the file back into SeaMonkey would overwrite 
the bookmarks or make duplicates.


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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Tom Pamin]

Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...


Not sure how to modify the web page?
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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

[Ray_Net]

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
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Bookmarks in Color?

[Tom Pamin]

I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?

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Re: Bookmarks corrupted... [SOLVED]

[sean]

sean wrote on 12/30/19 12:05 PM:
I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. I 
guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a large 
html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" now, I get 
a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I need to rename 
or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?



deleting the trio of sqlite.xxx files, then spending a few moments to 
delete majority of duplicates, solved my issue


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Re: Bookmarks corrupted...

[Lee]

On 12/30/19, sean   wrote:
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 12/30/19 3:26 PM:
>> sean wrote:
>>> I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020.
>>> I guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a
>>> large html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks"
>>> now, I get a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I
>>> need to rename or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?
>>
>> How many bookarks do you have? Any old add-ons managing bookmarks? The
>> bookmarks are now in the database places.sqlite. If you delete it as lee
>> suggested the last backup should be restored during startup. Please
>> close SeaMonkey before deleting the file and make sure you have a full
>> profile backup in case something goes wrong.
>>
>> FRG
>
> I have way too many bookmarks and am trying to delete/sift & sort
> them... deleting the trio of sqlites. made them visible again, but I
> guess the file size is too large to handle, even though I have plenty of
> memory.
>
> guess I need to walk away for a bit to let the whole "manage bookmarks"
> load.

Not a great solution, but better than nothing.. assuming "manage
bookmarks" eventually does load all your bookmarks and you can export
your bookmarks as html (tools / export html).  Run a script to show
all the dups so you know what can be deleted:

$ cat findDupBookmarks.sh
#!/bin/sh
# input: FF/SM 'Export Bookmarks to HTML' file

BMF="$1"
# bookmark file name, should at least make sure it exists

grep '[^>]*>//'  |\
 sort | uniq -d

$ findDupBookmarks.sh bookmarks.html
https://lite.qwant.com/


or you can list your bookmarks and run it thru a dead link checker or
somesuch to find things to be deleted or changed to point to
archive.org

$ cat listBookmarks.sh
#!/bin/sh
# input: FF/SM 'Export Bookmarks to HTML' file

BMF="$1"
# bookmark file name, should at least make sure it exists

egrep '( *//'\
 -e 's/^ *~~'\
 -e 's/">[^>]*>//'

$ listBookmarks.sh bookmarks.html | head -5
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Re: Bookmarks corrupted...

[sean]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 12/30/19 3:26 PM:

sean wrote:
I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. 
I guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a 
large html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" 
now, I get a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I 
need to rename or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?


How many bookarks do you have? Any old add-ons managing bookmarks? The 
bookmarks are now in the database places.sqlite. If you delete it as lee 
suggested the last backup should be restored during startup. Please 
close SeaMonkey before deleting the file and make sure you have a full 
profile backup in case something goes wrong.


FRG




I have way too many bookmarks and am trying to delete/sift & sort 
them... deleting the trio of sqlites. made them visible again, but I 
guess the file size is too large to handle, even though I have plenty of 
memory.


guess I need to walk away for a bit to let the whole "manage bookmarks" 
load.




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Re: Bookmarks corrupted...

[sean]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 12/30/19 3:26 PM:

sean wrote:
I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. 
I guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a 
large html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" 
now, I get a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I 
need to rename or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?


How many bookarks do you have? Any old add-ons managing bookmarks? The 
bookmarks are now in the database places.sqlite. If you delete it as lee 
suggested the last backup should be restored during startup. Please 
close SeaMonkey before deleting the file and make sure you have a full 
profile backup in case something goes wrong.


FRG


this is a fresh install and all the important stuff has been regularly 
backed up since this was called Netscape 3.0 Gold.


I don't use any addons anymore... (aside from Lightning which I can't 
seem to find a working variant of anymore)


will delete some sqlite folders now...


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Re: Bookmarks corrupted...

[sean]

Lee wrote on 12/30/19 3:06 PM:

On 12/30/19, sean  wrote:

Lee wrote on 12/30/19 2:09 PM:

On 12/30/19, sean  wrote:

I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. I
guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a large
html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" now, I get
a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I need to rename
or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?


Backup your current profile & try restoring your bookmarks:
Bookmarks / Manage Bookmarks
Tools / Restore / 

Regards,
Lee



Using 2.53.1... when i select "manage bookmarks" the computer generally
freezes up entirely. When it does load the bookmarks are blank. Tools >
Restore > Choose ... is blank...

I then deleted localstore.rdf, but think that is an older no longer
supported remedy.


You _have_ backed up your current profile - right?  If not, do it now.

You can try deleting places.sqlite and see if that helps.. or deleting
all variants
   places.sqlite
   places.sqlite-shm
   places.sqlite-wal

Regards,
Lee




I've been using this program since it was called Netscape 3.0 Gold... 
got the important stuff backed up all the time...

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Re: Bookmarks corrupted...

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

sean wrote:
I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. I guess 
I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a large html backup of 
bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" now, I get a very slow to load 
blank page. Anyone know which file I need to rename or delete to get my 
bookmarks working once again?


How many bookarks do you have? Any old add-ons managing bookmarks? The 
bookmarks are now in the database places.sqlite. If you delete it as lee 
suggested the last backup should be restored during startup. Please close 
SeaMonkey before deleting the file and make sure you have a full profile 
backup in case something goes wrong.


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Re: Bookmarks corrupted...

[Lee]

On 12/30/19, sean  wrote:
> Lee wrote on 12/30/19 2:09 PM:
>> On 12/30/19, sean  wrote:
>>> I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. I
>>> guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a large
>>> html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" now, I get
>>> a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I need to rename
>>> or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?
>>
>> Backup your current profile & try restoring your bookmarks:
>>Bookmarks / Manage Bookmarks
>>Tools / Restore / 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lee
>>
>
> Using 2.53.1... when i select "manage bookmarks" the computer generally
> freezes up entirely. When it does load the bookmarks are blank. Tools >
> Restore > Choose ... is blank...
>
> I then deleted localstore.rdf, but think that is an older no longer
> supported remedy.

You _have_ backed up your current profile - right?  If not, do it now.

You can try deleting places.sqlite and see if that helps.. or deleting
all variants
  places.sqlite
  places.sqlite-shm
  places.sqlite-wal

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Re: Bookmarks corrupted...

[sean]

Lee wrote on 12/30/19 2:09 PM:

On 12/30/19, sean  wrote:

I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. I
guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a large
html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" now, I get
a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I need to rename
or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?


Backup your current profile & try restoring your bookmarks:
   Bookmarks / Manage Bookmarks
   Tools / Restore / 

Regards,
Lee



Using 2.53.1... when i select "manage bookmarks" the computer generally 
freezes up entirely. When it does load the bookmarks are blank. Tools > 
Restore > Choose ... is blank...


I then deleted localstore.rdf, but think that is an older no longer 
supported remedy.





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Re: Bookmarks corrupted...

[Lee]

On 12/30/19, sean  wrote:
> I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. I
> guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a large
> html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" now, I get
> a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I need to rename
> or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?

Backup your current profile & try restoring your bookmarks:
  Bookmarks / Manage Bookmarks
  Tools / Restore / 

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Bookmarks corrupted...

[sean]

I was sifting and sorting my bookmarks for the move from 2019 to 2020. I 
guess I overloaded the file, or Seamonkey's ability to handle a large 
html backup of bookmarks. When choosing to "manage bookmarks" now, I get 
a very slow to load blank page. Anyone know which file I need to rename 
or delete to get my bookmarks working once again?

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Drag and Drop URL Bookmarks

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HELP!!

I'm using Seamonkey 2.49.1 on PC XP-SP3 and can no longer drag and drop 
bookmarks. I have tried everything in Help. Bookmark this page and File bookmark 
comes up as "save" only and when selected nothing listed in Help come up.


Bookmark this page doesn't even add it to the bookmark list. Nothing else I've 
tried helps either.


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Re: Request received: Bookmarks folder initial choice swapping ? ref:_00DU0Lfqj._5001v19eQut:ref

[Daniel]

Support TheFork wrote on 13/11/2019 12:40 AM:

Hello ,

Thanks for your email. We have received your request 03672482 and it is being 
processed by our Support team.

To leave additional comments, please reply to this email.

Best,

TheFork team


TheFork, a TripAdvisor Company


Busy, Busy place, this 'Support TheFork"!

Two similar posts in just five minutes, however the previous post used 
the request number 03672449, so 33 requests received in just five minutes!


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[Support TheFork via support-seamonkey]

Hello ,

Thanks for your email. We have received your request 03672482 and it is being 
processed by our Support team.

To leave additional comments, please reply to this email.

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Bookmarks folder initial choice swapping ?

[Rubens via support-seamonkey]

Hello. Just a simple question:

Is there any way to make the initial pre-selected folder to be the Bookmars 
Toobar instead of the Bookmarks Menu
when we press Ctrl-D to file a bookmark ?
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Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[Ant]

On 10/10/2019 1:26 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 10/10/2019 1:36 AM:

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
   1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
   2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
   3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
  cleaned up data?

I've not had *ANY* contact with any database system for DECADES {i.e. 
dBASEII}. My gut says it should be possible. None of the bookmark 
threads have suggested any feasible way to reorganize my current mess.


My Bookmarks file dates from about Netscape Communicator V 3.0 and, over 
the years, I think I've ending up with three or four copies of my 
Bookmarks with-in the Bookmarks folder, so I had been thinking of doing 
something like 


1.    Export my Bookmarks file as HTML
2.    Save a copy somewhere else!
3.    Open Bookmarks.html in Notepad++ (or similar)
4.    Select a Bookmark.
5.    Do a search for that Bookmark throughout the file and delete the 
duplicates if only one copy is required.

6.    Repeat Steps 4 and 5 for each following bookmark.
7.    Copy (not import into) the finished file back into the Bookmarks 
file somehow.


I realise this would be A LOT OF (highly repetitive) WORK (which someone 
smarter that me could probable script), but would it be a way of 
achieving the slimmed down result??


For me, I would like to keep their histories too.
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Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote on 10/10/2019 1:36 AM:

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
   1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
   2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
   3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
  cleaned up data?

I've not had *ANY* contact with any database system for DECADES {i.e. 
dBASEII}. My gut says it should be possible. None of the bookmark 
threads have suggested any feasible way to reorganize my current mess.


My Bookmarks file dates from about Netscape Communicator V 3.0 and, over 
the years, I think I've ending up with three or four copies of my 
Bookmarks with-in the Bookmarks folder, so I had been thinking of doing 
something like 


1.  Export my Bookmarks file as HTML
2.  Save a copy somewhere else!
3.  Open Bookmarks.html in Notepad++ (or similar)
4.  Select a Bookmark.
5.	Do a search for that Bookmark throughout the file and delete the 
duplicates if only one copy is required.

6.  Repeat Steps 4 and 5 for each following bookmark.
7.	Copy (not import into) the finished file back into the Bookmarks file 
somehow.


I realise this would be A LOT OF (highly repetitive) WORK (which someone 
smarter that me could probable script), but would it be a way of 
achieving the slimmed down result??


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Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[EE]

Richard Owlett wrote:

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
   1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
   2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
   3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
  cleaned up data?

I've not had *ANY* contact with any database system for DECADES {i.e. 
dBASEII}. My gut says it should be possible. None of the bookmark threads have 
suggested any feasible way to reorganize my current mess.


Are you concerned with favicons taking up too much room, or with bookmarks 
that are no longer valid, or both?  You could back up the bookmarks to an 
external directory (external to the profile), remove them from the browser and 
then restore them.  That should get rid of the favicons.  Getting a handle on 
what they are is easier if you then output them to .html, and then edit that. 
To check the validity, Bookmarks Checker still exists in Classic Add-ons 
Archive, but you need an extension to access it.  The add-on is Classic 
Add-ons Archive, available at Github:

https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/releases



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Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 09/10/19 19:35, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 10/09/2019 10:03 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 09/10/19 15:36, Richard Owlett wrote:

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
   1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
   2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
   3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
  cleaned up data?
...


Isn't that what the Bookmarks Manager is meant to be?


Chuckle. Some of my bookmarks date back to days of Netscape Navigator 
and when saved as HTML it is ~2MB with >6000 lines. I forget how deeply 
nested some of my references are.


Still, why not just edit the bookmarks in the browser tool (ie 
Bookmarks>Manage Bookmarks...)?  Are you hitting some of the bugs 
introduced by Mozilla vandalism (eg, copying a folder fails)?


If you first create the clean folder structure you want (above or below 
the existing folders), you could then gradually copy bookmarks from the 
old folders, deleting each one once its contained bookmarks and folders 
have been processed. But you won't be able to copy chunks of the tree.


If that doesn't work for you, why not export the Bookmarks to JSON 
using Bookmarks Manager>Tools>Backup..., edit the JSON, then Restore 
the modified file?


'Cause I don't know anything about JSON.


Just a JavaScript-syntax interchange format, like a SQL dump; easier to 
deal with than HTML, which of course is another option. I doubt that 
directly editing places.sqlite would be any easier, unless you might 
have some SQL scripts prepared to clean up the bookmark hierarchy (but 
you hadn't "had *ANY* contact with any database system for DECADES"). 
Anyway you can script against JSON with something like jq 
<https://stedolan.github.io/jq/manual/>.


Tools>Web Development>Scratchpad will open a JS editor with a 
pretty-printer that you'll likely need to make sense of the JSON.


And this really is a good tool, with pretty-print, syntax highlighting 
and folding.


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Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/09/2019 10:15 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

SQLiteStudio

https://sqlitestudio.pl/index.rvt


I don't trust that site. It requires both cookies and JavaScript to be 
enabled and then tries to log me into Facebook without asking.


I looked for it in the Debian repository - it's not there.
However I discovered something called sqlitebrowser which is described 
as a "GUI editor for SQLite databases". I'll investigate to see if it 
might be a partial solution.




be careful. Only use it when SeaMonkey is closed

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 09/10/19 15:36, Richard Owlett wrote:

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
   1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
   2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
   3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
  cleaned up data?
...


Isn't that what the Bookmarks Manager is meant to be?

If that doesn't work for you, why not export the Bookmarks to JSON 
using Bookmarks Manager>Tools>Backup..., edit the JSON, then Restore 
the modified file?


Tools>Web Development>Scratchpad will open a JS editor with a 
pretty-printer that you'll likely need to make sense of the JSON.


/df




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Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/09/2019 10:03 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 09/10/19 15:36, Richard Owlett wrote:

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
   1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
   2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
   3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
  cleaned up data?
...


Isn't that what the Bookmarks Manager is meant to be?


Chuckle. Some of my bookmarks date back to days of Netscape Navigator 
and when saved as HTML it is ~2MB with >6000 lines. I forget how deeply 
nested some of my references are.




If that doesn't work for you, why not export the Bookmarks to JSON using 
Bookmarks Manager>Tools>Backup..., edit the JSON, then Restore the 
modified file?


'Cause I don't know anything about JSON.



Tools>Web Development>Scratchpad will open a JS editor with a 
pretty-printer that you'll likely need to make sense of the JSON.


/df




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Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

SQLiteStudio

https://sqlitestudio.pl/index.rvt

be careful. Only use it when SeaMonkey is closed

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 09/10/19 15:36, Richard Owlett wrote:

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
   1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
   2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
   3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
  cleaned up data?
...


Isn't that what the Bookmarks Manager is meant to be?

If that doesn't work for you, why not export the Bookmarks to JSON using 
Bookmarks Manager>Tools>Backup..., edit the JSON, then Restore the modified file?


Tools>Web Development>Scratchpad will open a JS editor with a pretty-printer 
that you'll likely need to make sense of the JSON.


/df


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Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 09/10/19 15:36, Richard Owlett wrote:

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
   1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
   2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
   3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
  cleaned up data?
...


Isn't that what the Bookmarks Manager is meant to be?

If that doesn't work for you, why not export the Bookmarks to JSON using 
Bookmarks Manager>Tools>Backup..., edit the JSON, then Restore the 
modified file?


Tools>Web Development>Scratchpad will open a JS editor with a 
pretty-printer that you'll likely need to make sense of the JSON.


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Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks

[Richard Owlett]

Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
  1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
  2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
  3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
 cleaned up data?

I've not had *ANY* contact with any database system for DECADES {i.e. 
dBASEII}. My gut says it should be possible. None of the bookmark 
threads have suggested any feasible way to reorganize my current mess.


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Editing Bookmarks file

[Daniel]

It would seem that over the years I have imported several copies of my 
Bookmarks file (i.e. URL's) into my SeaMonkey, so now I have two copies 
of each of the sub-folders and the links they contain and a third copy 
of the links hanging of the bottom,  sort of like ...


Bookmarks
|__ Folder 1
}   |__ URL 1a
|   |__ URL 1b
|   |__ URL 1c
|
|_  Folder 1
|   |__ URL 1a
|   |__ URL 1b
|
|__ Folder 2
|   |__ URL 2a
|   |__ URL 2b
|   |__ URL 2c
|
|__ Folder 2
|   |__ URL 2c
|   |__ URL 2d
!
!_ URL 1a
|_ URL 2a
|_ URL 1b
|_ URL 2b
|_ URL 1c
|_ URL 2c
|_ URL 2d

Is there a simple way that I can edit my Bookmarks file so that I 
eliminate all these doubling and tripling up??


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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:


On 9/13/2018 11:53 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


I prefer the simple method.

Install Gnome or Unity Tweaks and adjust all font sizes for all 
applications at once.


I read somewhere the ability to adjust fonts is also coming to 
Windows 10.


Windows has had that ability for a long time, but it's buried in 
detailed menus so most users don't know about it.


On Windows 7, for example:

Right-click the desktop, choose "Personalize," then "Display" from the 
menu at left. Or else, from Control Panel, choose "Display." From 
there the process is self-evident.


You can select individual items like Menu, Titlebar, Application, and 
Document, then select what Font (Arial, Arial Bold, etc) and Font size 
on Windows 7?


On previous versions of Windows, you could. On Win7, I don't see that 
anymore, just overall scaling.



On Windows 10 I get nothing useful if I select "Personalize".


Sorry, don't have Win10, can't guide you there.

If I select "Display Settings" after a right-click, I have a "Scale and 
layout" section and am able to change percentages.


That sounds similar to Win7.

I don't see anywhere to get the control that I have with Tweak Tools on 
Linux.


If you want that fine control, I guess you do need the add-on. Unless 
someone else knows better.


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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[WaltS48]

On 9/13/2018 11:53 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


I prefer the simple method.

Install Gnome or Unity Tweaks and adjust all font sizes for all 
applications at once.


I read somewhere the ability to adjust fonts is also coming to Windows 
10.


Windows has had that ability for a long time, but it's buried in 
detailed menus so most users don't know about it.


On Windows 7, for example:

Right-click the desktop, choose "Personalize," then "Display" from the 
menu at left. Or else, from Control Panel, choose "Display." From there 
the process is self-evident.




You can select individual items like Menu, Titlebar, Application, and 
Document, then select what Font (Arial, Arial Bold, etc) and Font size 
on Windows 7?


On Windows 10 I get nothing useful if I select "Personalize".

If I select "Display Settings" after a right-click, I have a "Scale and 
layout" section and am able to change percentages.


I don't see anywhere to get the control that I have with Tweak Tools on 
Linux.

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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:


I prefer the simple method.

Install Gnome or Unity Tweaks and adjust all font sizes for all 
applications at once.


I read somewhere the ability to adjust fonts is also coming to Windows 10.


Windows has had that ability for a long time, but it's buried in 
detailed menus so most users don't know about it.


On Windows 7, for example:

Right-click the desktop, choose "Personalize," then "Display" from the 
menu at left. Or else, from Control Panel, choose "Display." From there 
the process is self-evident.


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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[GerardJan]

Lee wrote:

On 9/12/18, Andy K  wrote:

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?


Maybe something along these lines?
add this bit to userChrome.css

/*
  * increase the font size of bookmarks
  */
.bookmark-item { font-size: 150% !important; }


¡ that will be 1,5 * 12pts = 18pts !



which also sets the font size of the bookmarks toolbar; dunno if you
want that or not, but I don't know how to exclude it.

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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[WaltS48]

On 9/12/18 9:50 PM, Andy K wrote:

On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 9:18:32 AM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/12/18 8:02 AM, Andy K wrote:

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0



Is it possible to inform us what operating system you are using?

I adjust font sizes using Gnome Tweaks in my Ubuntu Linux. The
adjustments affect all applications.

For Window Title I use Ubuntu Bold Italic, set at 12, Interface is
Ubuntu Regular at 12 (the bookmarks use this setting).

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I am using Ubuntu.

This is an answer.

Paste in the following content in UserChrome.css.

/*
  * Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct functioning
  */
@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul;);
/* set default namespace to XUL */

menupopup#bookmarksMenuPopup  * {
font-size: 20pt !important
  }

You can change 20pt to a higher or lower value to meet your specific needs.



I prefer the simple method.

Install Gnome or Unity Tweaks and adjust all font sizes for all 
applications at once.


I read somewhere the ability to adjust fonts is also coming to Windows 10.

ymmv

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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Felix Miata]

Chris Ilias composed on 2018-09-12 11:01 (UTC-0400):

> Andy K wrote:

>> Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0

> Try the instructions in the following article, and see if it still 
> works: <http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/BookmarkLabelStyle>.

Normal here (no userChrome.css):
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ciliasBMcss0-144c.png

Mousetype resulting from using your example code in userChrome.css:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ciliasBMcss1-144c.png

With your style line omitted, with fonts-size x-small instead of 11px:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ciliasBMcss-xsmall-144c.png

With 13pt font-size instead of x-small:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ciliasBMcss-13pt-144c.png

11px is virtually illegible here, same as anywhere with significantly above
average display density. Some mention of this on that URL, or a different or
additional example, might prove more productive.
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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Andy K]

On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 9:18:32 AM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 9/12/18 8:02 AM, Andy K wrote:
> > Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?
> > 
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0
> > 
> 
> Is it possible to inform us what operating system you are using?
> 
> I adjust font sizes using Gnome Tweaks in my Ubuntu Linux. The 
> adjustments affect all applications.
> 
> For Window Title I use Ubuntu Bold Italic, set at 12, Interface is 
> Ubuntu Regular at 12 (the bookmarks use this setting).
> 
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> RAM: 8 GiB
> Graphics: GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2
> OS: Ubuntu Linux 18.04LTS - Gnome Desktop

I am using Ubuntu.

This is an answer.

Paste in the following content in UserChrome.css.

/*
 * Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct functioning
 */
@namespace 
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul;); 
/* set default namespace to XUL */

menupopup#bookmarksMenuPopup  * {
   font-size: 20pt !important
 }

You can change 20pt to a higher or lower value to meet your specific needs.

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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Lee]

On 9/12/18, Andy K  wrote:
> Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

Maybe something along these lines?
add this bit to userChrome.css

/*
 * increase the font size of bookmarks
 */
.bookmark-item { font-size: 150% !important; }

which also sets the font size of the bookmarks toolbar; dunno if you
want that or not, but I don't know how to exclude it.

Lee
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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-09-12 8:02 a.m., Andy K wrote:

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0


Try the instructions in the following article, and see if it still 
works: <http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/BookmarkLabelStyle>.


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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Ray_Net]

Richard Owlett wrote on 12-09-18 14:30:

On 09/12/2018 07:02 AM, Andy K wrote:

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0



I get a 404 error.


This is normal - the url is not correct a part is missing (replaced by 3 
dots)

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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[WaltS48]

On 9/12/18 8:02 AM, Andy K wrote:

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0



Is it possible to inform us what operating system you are using?

I adjust font sizes using Gnome Tweaks in my Ubuntu Linux. The 
adjustments affect all applications.


For Window Title I use Ubuntu Bold Italic, set at 12, Interface is 
Ubuntu Regular at 12 (the bookmarks use this setting).


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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/12/2018 07:02 AM, Andy K wrote:

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0



I get a 404 error.


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Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Andy K]

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/09/2018 01:28 PM, sean wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy.
[ I've > 300 folders and >5000 bookmarks ]
I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
My goals include:
   1. Create a HTML file of bookmarks which:
  a. clearly shows the hierarchical structure of nested folders.
  b. allows searching for folder names as well as page titles.
  c. clearly shows in which the searched for file resides.
   2. find and purge duplicates.
   3. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.

Looking for useful tools I found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/].

An outline of my procedure is:
  1. export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
  2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. {It does so nicely.}
  3. create HTML file described above.
  4. find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
  5. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
 Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
  6. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

The Tcl code below does #3. I've only sketched how to do #4.
[requires having done
 jq '.' yourrawbookmarks.json > prettytestalpha.json
]

Comments?





# Input is SeaMonkey bookmark file pretty printed with "jq"

set infile  "prettytestalpha.json"
set outfile "alphatest.html"

set fd_in  [open $infile  r]
set fd_out  [open $outfile w]

# set predefined values
set children    "\"child"
set uri    "\"uri\":"
set title    "\"title"
set rbracket    \]
set mylist [list $children $title $uri $rbracket]

# to be used at start of page of HTML
set preface {

PREalpha pretty bookmarks


PREalpha pretty bookmarks
}
set postlude {
}


# a reminder of how to format a clickable link
# $title


set myline    0
set outline 0
set indent ""
set plusindent ""
set sth1 ""
set enh1 ""
set aheading 0    ;# used to flag if $title is section label 
when =1


puts $fd_out $preface
while { ! [eof $fd_in] } {
   incr line
   gets $fd_in b_line
   set a_line [string trimleft $b_line]
   set c_line [string range $a_line 0 5]

   set x  [lsearch $mylist $c_line]
   if { ($x >= 0) } then {

 switch $x {
   0 {set indent $indent$plusindent; set aheading 1;}
   1 {set a_line [string replace $a_line 0 9];
  set a_line [string replace $a_line end-1 end];
  set title $a_line;
  if $aheading then {puts $fd_out "$sth1$indent$a_line$enh1";
  set aheading 0; incr myline}}
   2 {set a_line [string replace $a_line 0 6];
puts $fd_out "$indent$title";
incr outline }
   3 {set indent [string replace $indent end-4 end];}
   }
  }
}


puts $fd_out "There are $myline folders"
puts $fd_out "There are $outline bookmarks"

puts $fd_out $postlude
close $fd_in
close $fd_out



Posting in this thread as it's gonna prove to be quite useful... and to 
help me locate it again when I have more time...


Do you make use of mail/newsgroups tags?
I have ~40.
Most are project related.
One outlier has an interesting title -- "odd topics".



"A file that big?
   It might be very useful.
     But now it is gone."


I frequently advise backups.
Q. Do I?
A. 5th amendment ;/



from: http://www.thezensite.com/non_Zen/haiku_for_windows.html


IIUC, Murphy more concise ;/

BTW If successful I'll attempt to do something similar for email/Usenet.

If you old enough -- 1 ram 1 kilowatt dam >?? ooops 





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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

[sean]

Richard Owlett wrote:

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy.
[ I've > 300 folders and >5000 bookmarks ]
I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
My goals include:
   1. Create a HTML file of bookmarks which:
  a. clearly shows the hierarchical structure of nested folders.
  b. allows searching for folder names as well as page titles.
  c. clearly shows in which the searched for file resides.
   2. find and purge duplicates.
   3. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.

Looking for useful tools I found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/].

An outline of my procedure is:
  1. export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
  2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. {It does so nicely.}
  3. create HTML file described above.
  4. find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
  5. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
     Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
  6. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

The Tcl code below does #3. I've only sketched how to do #4.
[requires having done
     jq '.' yourrawbookmarks.json > prettytestalpha.json
]

Comments?





# Input is SeaMonkey bookmark file pretty printed with "jq"

set infile  "prettytestalpha.json"
set outfile "alphatest.html"

set fd_in  [open $infile  r]
set fd_out  [open $outfile w]

# set predefined values
set children    "\"child"
set uri    "\"uri\":"
set title    "\"title"
set rbracket    \]
set mylist [list $children $title $uri $rbracket]

# to be used at start of page of HTML
set preface {

PREalpha pretty bookmarks


PREalpha pretty bookmarks
}
set postlude {
}


# a reminder of how to format a clickable link
# $title


set myline    0
set outline 0
set indent ""
set plusindent ""
set sth1 ""
set enh1 ""
set aheading 0    ;# used to flag if $title is section label 
when =1


puts $fd_out $preface
while { ! [eof $fd_in] } {
   incr line
   gets $fd_in b_line
   set a_line [string trimleft $b_line]
   set c_line [string range $a_line 0 5]

   set x  [lsearch $mylist $c_line]
   if { ($x >= 0) } then {

     switch $x {
   0 {set indent $indent$plusindent; set aheading 1;}
   1 {set a_line [string replace $a_line 0 9];
  set a_line [string replace $a_line end-1 end];
  set title $a_line;
  if $aheading then {puts $fd_out "$sth1$indent$a_line$enh1";
  set aheading 0; incr myline}}
   2 {set a_line [string replace $a_line 0 6];
puts $fd_out "$indent$title";
incr outline }
   3 {set indent [string replace $indent end-4 end];}
   }
  }
}


puts $fd_out "There are $myline folders"
puts $fd_out "There are $outline bookmarks"

puts $fd_out $postlude
close $fd_in
close $fd_out



Posting in this thread as it's gonna prove to be quite useful... and to 
help me locate it again when I have more time...


"A file that big?
  It might be very useful.
But now it is gone."

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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

[NFN Smith]

David E. Ross wrote:

Long ago, I realized that I wanted to see my bookmarks more often than
any Web page.  I set the preference variable
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to True.  Actually, I have
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment, to
remind me why I did this.)  Every time I terminate SeaMonkey, my
bookmarks are automatically exported to the file bookmarks.html in my
profile.


I do that, too. From there for other profiles that I'm using, as well as 
other browsers, I set the exported bookmarks.html to be the home page. 
With that, no matter which profile or which browser I'm using, I always 
have an up to date list of all my bookmarks available.


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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

[GerardJan]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/1/2018 1:38 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If retirement isn't for education what use is it?


Very good.  Retirement is also the best work of all.



I am retired, my one man company is
/Veuniks IT/
from the society of the /Delfts Studenten Corps/

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SeaMonkey/2.49.4

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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

[David E. Ross]

On 9/1/2018 1:38 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> If retirement isn't for education what use is it?

Very good.  Retirement is also the best work of all.

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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

[Richard Owlett]

On 09/01/2018 01:49 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/1/2018 10:26 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy.
[ I've > 300 folders and >5000 bookmarks ]
I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
My goals include:
1. Create a HTML file of bookmarks which:
   a. clearly shows the hierarchical structure of nested folders.
   b. allows searching for folder names as well as page titles.
   c. clearly shows in which the searched for file resides.
2. find and purge duplicates.
3. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.

Looking for useful tools I found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/].

An outline of my procedure is:
   1. export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
   2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. {It does so nicely.}
   3. create HTML file described above.
   4. find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
   5. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
  Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
   6. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

The Tcl code below does #3. I've only sketched how to do #4.
[requires having done
  jq '.' yourrawbookmarks.json > prettytestalpha.json
]

Comments?



[method snipped]

Long ago, I realized that I wanted to see my bookmarks more often than
any Web page.  I set the preference variable
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to True.  Actually, I have
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment, to
remind me why I did this.)  Every time I terminate SeaMonkey, my
bookmarks are automatically exported to the file bookmarks.html in my
profile.

In the userContent.css file in the chrome folder in my profile, I added
url("file:///xxx")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where "xxx" is the complete path to the file bookmarks.html.  (If you do
not have a userContent.css file, copy the file userContent-example.css
to make a userContent.css file.)

Using [Edit > Preferences > Browser], I set the radio button to "Home
page" for all three "Display on" selections and the same complete path
to the file bookmarks.html as above (including the file:/// but without
the quotation marks) in the input area "Clicking the home button takes
you to this group of pages".

All this gives me a nicely formatted display of my bookmarks.  Folder
names are bold.  Folder contents are indented, and subfolder contents
are indented farther.

Also, I do intentionally have some duplicate bookmarks.  When I create
them, I set duplicate tags for them.  This is not quite as good as the
old Netscape browser capability of creating a shortcut for a bookmark.
With that capability, changing a bookmark automatically changed the
shortcut.



If I understand, you have described how to have avoided the mess I'm in 
[i.e.  My bookmarks grew like Topsy resulting in > 300 folders and >5000 
bookmarks. ]


I have a profile set aside for experimentation. I posted the same code 
over on comp.lang.tcl and received several suggestions which will 
require research to understand. I'll try to implement what you outlined. 
Whether or not I succeed I'll live up to a tag line I've used:

"If retirement isn't for education what use is it?"


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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

[David E. Ross]

On 9/1/2018 10:26 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My bookmarks have grown like Topsy.
> [ I've > 300 folders and >5000 bookmarks ]
> I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
> My goals include:
>1. Create a HTML file of bookmarks which:
>   a. clearly shows the hierarchical structure of nested folders.
>   b. allows searching for folder names as well as page titles.
>   c. clearly shows in which the searched for file resides.
>2. find and purge duplicates.
>3. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.
> 
> Looking for useful tools I found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/].
> 
> An outline of my procedure is:
>   1. export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
>   2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. {It does so nicely.}
>   3. create HTML file described above.
>   4. find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
>   5. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
>  Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
>   6. Import the clean organized bookmarks.
> 
> The Tcl code below does #3. I've only sketched how to do #4.
> [requires having done
>  jq '.' yourrawbookmarks.json > prettytestalpha.json
> ]
> 
> Comments?
> 

[method snipped]

Long ago, I realized that I wanted to see my bookmarks more often than
any Web page.  I set the preference variable
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to True.  Actually, I have
    user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment, to
remind me why I did this.)  Every time I terminate SeaMonkey, my
bookmarks are automatically exported to the file bookmarks.html in my
profile.

In the userContent.css file in the chrome folder in my profile, I added
   url("file:///xxx")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where "xxx" is the complete path to the file bookmarks.html.  (If you do
not have a userContent.css file, copy the file userContent-example.css
to make a userContent.css file.)

Using [Edit > Preferences > Browser], I set the radio button to "Home
page" for all three "Display on" selections and the same complete path
to the file bookmarks.html as above (including the file:/// but without
the quotation marks) in the input area "Clicking the home button takes
you to this group of pages".

All this gives me a nicely formatted display of my bookmarks.  Folder
names are bold.  Folder contents are indented, and subfolder contents
are indented farther.

Also, I do intentionally have some duplicate bookmarks.  When I create
them, I set duplicate tags for them.  This is not quite as good as the
old Netscape browser capability of creating a shortcut for a bookmark.
With that capability, changing a bookmark automatically changed the
shortcut.

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Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

[Richard Owlett]

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy.
[ I've > 300 folders and >5000 bookmarks ]
I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
My goals include:
  1. Create a HTML file of bookmarks which:
 a. clearly shows the hierarchical structure of nested folders.
 b. allows searching for folder names as well as page titles.
 c. clearly shows in which the searched for file resides.
  2. find and purge duplicates.
  3. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.

Looking for useful tools I found jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/].

An outline of my procedure is:
 1. export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
 2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. {It does so nicely.}
 3. create HTML file described above.
 4. find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
 5. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
 6. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

The Tcl code below does #3. I've only sketched how to do #4.
[requires having done
jq '.' yourrawbookmarks.json > prettytestalpha.json
]

Comments?





# Input is SeaMonkey bookmark file pretty printed with "jq"

set infile  "prettytestalpha.json"
set outfile "alphatest.html"

set fd_in  [open $infile  r]
set fd_out  [open $outfile w]

# set predefined values
set children"\"child"
set uri "\"uri\":"
set title   "\"title"
set rbracket\]
set mylist [list $children $title $uri $rbracket]

# to be used at start of page of HTML
set preface {

PREalpha pretty bookmarks


PREalpha pretty bookmarks
}
set postlude {
}


# a reminder of how to format a clickable link
# $title


set myline  0
set outline 0
set indent   ""
set plusindent  ""
set sth1 ""
set enh1 ""
set aheading0   ;# used to flag if $title is section label when 
=1

puts $fd_out $preface
while { ! [eof $fd_in] } {
  incr line
  gets $fd_in b_line
  set a_line [string trimleft $b_line]
  set c_line [string range $a_line 0 5]

  set x  [lsearch $mylist $c_line]
  if { ($x >= 0) } then {

switch $x {
  0 {set indent $indent$plusindent; set aheading 1;}
  1 {set a_line [string replace $a_line 0 9];
 set a_line [string replace $a_line end-1 end];
 set title $a_line;
 if $aheading then {puts $fd_out "$sth1$indent$a_line$enh1";
 set aheading 0; incr myline}}
  2 {set a_line [string replace $a_line 0 6];
puts $fd_out "$indent$title";
incr outline }
  3 {set indent [string replace $indent end-4 end];}
  }
 }
}


puts $fd_out "There are $myline folders"
puts $fd_out "There are $outline bookmarks"

puts $fd_out $postlude
close $fd_in
close $fd_out

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Progress Report - was [Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/18/2018 04:50 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 18/08/2018 1:44 PM:

[snip]
Have made progress :]
BUT creating useful output in JSON format acceptable to SeaMonkey 
unlikely :[


Boo! Hiss!!


Sorry about that 
Have you looked at a JSON file even after pretty printing with "jq"?



HOWEVER I expect I'll be able to create a HTML file which can serve 
nicely as bookmarks. That was one of my initial alternative goals.


SeaMonkey used to, natively, I think, do this!!

Yes, Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks then, in the Bookmark Manager, 
Tools->Export HTML


Yes, *BUT*!
The way they chose to display the HTML hides much of the hierarchical 
stucture of nested bookmarks. Whether or not I delete a specific URL 
reference depends on where it is in the structure. I have some 
intentional duplications.



My path to that will depend on Linux tools. I suspect similar tools 
exist in Windows. I will be creating a description of my combination 
of scripts and manual edits.


I suspect that this could be done in jq with an expert's skill set.

My goals include:
  1. Create a HTML file with hierarchy *CLEARLY* visible.
  2. Create a text file of duplicated URLs and how many times
 each appears.
  3. Create a tool to ease removal of duplicates from *MY* HTML.
  4. I might possibly perhaps investigate creating an HTML file
 SeaMonkey could import. Enough qualifiers there??

My _preliminary_ TCL [not quite pre-alpha] is:

# Input is SeaMonkey bookmark file pretty printed with "jq '.' ..."
set infile  "pretty_json.txt"
# the format of "useful.txt" not yet defined
set outfile "useful.txt"
set fd_in  [open $infile  r]
set fd_out [open $outfile w]

set children   "\"child"
set uri"\"uri\":"
set title  "\"title"
set rbracket   \]
set mylist [list $children  $uri  $title $rbracket]

while { ! [eof $fd_in] } {
  gets $fd_in b_line 
  set a_line [string trimleft $b_line]
  set c_line [string range $a_line 0 5]  


  set x  [lsearch $mylist $c_line]
  switch $x {
  1 {procedure1}
  2 {procedure2}
  3 {procedure3}
  4 {procedure4}
  }
}

close $fd_in
close $fd_out


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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

[Daniel]

Daniel wrote on 22/08/2018 4:28 PM:

Lee wrote on 22/08/2018 7:59 AM:

On 8/21/18, Daniel  wrote:
If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty 
horrible.

If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)

Lee


Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I
wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!


Downloaded Notepad++ and installed it and it seemed to function well.

Now to see if I can have two instances of it running at the same time,
both reading the same file, so I can compare two separate sections of
that one file!! (Alternatively, I could save two copies of the Bookmarks
file with different names!!)


You could try the totally non-obvious
   View / Move/Clone Current Document / Clone to other view
in notepad++ or check out
   http://winmerge.org/
to see if that might be more suitable for what you're trying to do

Regards,
Lee


Something else to try, thank you, Lee. ;-)

At first glance, Lee, that appears to allow me to get two instances of 
the one file up ... but, it seems, I cannot then edit either instance in 
Notepad++ ... but I can do that in SM Bookmarks itself..


Thank you. ;-)

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

[GerardJan]

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote on 22/08/2018 4:28 PM:

Lee wrote on 22/08/2018 7:59 AM:

On 8/21/18, Daniel  wrote:

If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty horrible.
If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)

Lee


Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I
wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!


Downloaded Notepad++ and installed it and it seemed to function well.

Now to see if I can have two instances of it running at the same time,
both reading the same file, so I can compare two separate sections of
that one file!! (Alternatively, I could save two copies of the Bookmarks
file with different names!!)


You could try the totally non-obvious
   View / Move/Clone Current Document / Clone to other view
in notepad++ or check out
   http://winmerge.org/
to see if that might be more suitable for what you're trying to do

Regards,
Lee


Something else to try, thank you, Lee. ;-)

At first glance, Lee, that appears to allow me to get two instances of the one 
file up ... but, it seems, I cannot then edit either instance in Notepad++ ... 
but I can do that in SM Bookmarks itself..


Thank you. ;-)



Dan!
You should upgrade to 2.49.3 !

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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

[Daniel]

Lee wrote on 22/08/2018 7:59 AM:

On 8/21/18, Daniel  wrote:

If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty horrible.
If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)

Lee


Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I
wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!


Downloaded Notepad++ and installed it and it seemed to function well.

Now to see if I can have two instances of it running at the same time,
both reading the same file, so I can compare two separate sections of
that one file!! (Alternatively, I could save two copies of the Bookmarks
file with different names!!)


You could try the totally non-obvious
   View / Move/Clone Current Document / Clone to other view
in notepad++ or check out
   http://winmerge.org/
to see if that might be more suitable for what you're trying to do

Regards,
Lee


Something else to try, thank you, Lee. ;-)

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

[Lee]

On 8/21/18, Daniel  wrote:
>>> If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty horrible.
>>> If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
>>> dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>> Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I
>> wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!
>>
> Downloaded Notepad++ and installed it and it seemed to function well.
>
> Now to see if I can have two instances of it running at the same time,
> both reading the same file, so I can compare two separate sections of
> that one file!! (Alternatively, I could save two copies of the Bookmarks
> file with different names!!)

You could try the totally non-obvious
  View / Move/Clone Current Document / Clone to other view
in notepad++ or check out
  http://winmerge.org/
to see if that might be more suitable for what you're trying to do

Regards,
Lee
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