Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Jens Hatlak

Ed Mullen wrote:
A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page.  Stored in the 
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.


Until further notice it's still bookmarks.html in SM2.

Greetings,

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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page.  Stored in the 
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.


Until further notice it's still bookmarks.html in SM2.

Greetings,

Jens



are you sure that its not places.sqlite? You may still 
have bookmarks.html because you've set up SM2 to write 
to the html file when closing SM.  So, is SM2 actually 
using places.sqlite or the html file?


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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


In SM there is a Status Bar in the bottom lower-left of the SM
window. There are various icons there. The last one opens the Address
Book.


nope, not for me. The last one is chatzilla



Yep, true enough.  I don't install Chatzilla.

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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page. Stored in the
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.


Until further notice it's still bookmarks.html in SM2.

Greetings,

Jens



are you sure that its not places.sqlite? You may still have
bookmarks.html because you've set up SM2 to write to the html file when
closing SM. So, is SM2 actually using places.sqlite or the html file?



I suspect he's right.  My SM2 profile doesn't have a places.sqlite file, 
only bookmarks.html.  I didn't set or change anything, I just let the 
installer import my SM1 profile.


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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page. Stored in the
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.


Until further notice it's still bookmarks.html in SM2.

Greetings,

Jens



are you sure that its not places.sqlite? You may still have
bookmarks.html because you've set up SM2 to write to the html file when
closing SM. So, is SM2 actually using places.sqlite or the html file?



I suspect he's right.  My SM2 profile doesn't have a places.sqlite file, 
only bookmarks.html.  I didn't set or change anything, I just let the 
installer import my SM1 profile.




make a change to the bookmarks, close SM and take a 
look.  IF this is true, then what happened?  SM2 is 
supposed to be using the same format as FF3.


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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


In SM there is a Status Bar in the bottom lower-left of the SM
window. There are various icons there. The last one opens the Address
Book.


nope, not for me. The last one is chatzilla



Yep, true enough.  I don't install Chatzilla.



I've gotten so used to having it there, it now looks 
naked without it.


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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Philip Chee
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:23:54 -0800, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Ed Mullen wrote:
 A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page.  Stored in the 
 bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.
 
 Until further notice it's still bookmarks.html in SM2.
 
 are you sure that its not places.sqlite? You may still 
 have bookmarks.html because you've set up SM2 to write 
 to the html file when closing SM.  So, is SM2 actually 
 using places.sqlite or the html file?

We are still using bookmarks.html. the places.sqlite file is currently
only used to store global history.

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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:23:54 -0800, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo 
wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page.  Stored in the 
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.

Until further notice it's still bookmarks.html in SM2.
are you sure that its not places.sqlite? You may still have 
bookmarks.html because you've set up SM2 to write to the html file 
when closing SM.  So, is SM2 actually using places.sqlite or the 
html file?


We are still using bookmarks.html. the places.sqlite file is currently
only used to store global history.


oh, that sounds like great news!  Thank you!  Does this mean we can 
still have multiple bookmark files? From the bookmark manager, File, 
Open Bookmarks File?


Until further notice [1] there is no change at all regarding bookmarks 
management.


[1] I already used that phrase in the beginning. What I wanted to 
express is that AFAIK there are currently no concrete plans to change 
the way bookmarks are stored (no one is actively working on it) but that 
might change before the release of SM2. I remember KaiRo once stated 
that at least the UI (Bookmarks Manager etc.) will stay but nothing has 
been decided yet for the rest.


HTH

Jens



thanks for that great info.  I ask because I remember a 
round with KaiRo that the bookmarks would change over 
to the same as FF3.


So, this sounds like excellent news.  I guess I'll be 
happy with the new changes in SM2 since they don't 
affect the bookmark files. That was my biggest concern. 
 All the others are minor. Well, atleast second. 
Well, change that, I guess since there's no change to 
the bookmarks, then they move up to the number one 
position.


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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:23:54 -0800, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page.  Stored in the
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.

Until further notice it's still bookmarks.html in SM2.

are you sure that its not places.sqlite? You may still
have bookmarks.html because you've set up SM2 to write
to the html file when closing SM.  So, is SM2 actually
using places.sqlite or the html file?


We are still using bookmarks.html. the places.sqlite file is currently
only used to store global history.


The only places.sqlite files on my system are in my Firefox profiles.


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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Jens Hatlak

Ed Mullen wrote:

The only places.sqlite files on my system are in my Firefox profiles.


The Places-based history has been introduced after the build you are 
using (SM2a2).


HTH

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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Daniel

Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Smiles wrote:

I had three address books if I copy them to my profile in SM.1.13
will
SeaMonkey pick them up directly or do I have to edit a file


Click Bookmarks, select Manage Bookmarks and then, in the Bookmark
Manager select File and Open Bookmarks File.


Bookmarks have nothing to do with the Address Book! ;-)

Greetings,

Jens



This always confuses me...Do address books contain Bookmarked Addresses
or personal e-mail addresses??Get caught almost every time!!

Thanks Jens.



A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page. Stored in the
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.

An email address is, well, an email address. Personal or not. They are
stored in the various .mab address book files.

There are multiple ways to save bookmarks and email addresses into those
locations. But, they are different and have nothing to do with one
another.

In SM there is a Status Bar in the bottom lower-left of the SM window.
There are various icons there. The last one opens the Address Book.

On the Menu Bar at the top of the browser window is an item called
Bookmarks. Click it and explore. And open Help and enter bookmarks
in the search pane and read.



Thanks for that, Ed. My question was, more or less, rhetorical!



Well, I knew that! :-) But, then I thought: Hmm. Suppose someone else is
out there reading this who actually is confused by this discussion? :-D



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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Daniel wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


In SM there is a Status Bar in the bottom lower-left of the SM
window. There are various icons there. The last one opens the Address
Book.


nope, not for me. The last one is chatzilla



Yep, true enough. I don't install Chatzilla.



I've gotten so used to having it there, it now looks naked without it.



...but do you actually use it, Peter?



nope.

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[OT] 2.x - was Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread NoOp
On 12/20/2008 10:38 AM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

 
 thanks for that great info.  I ask because I remember a 
 round with KaiRo that the bookmarks would change over 
 to the same as FF3.
 
 So, this sounds like excellent news.  I guess I'll be 
 happy with the new changes in SM2 since they don't 
 affect the bookmark files. That was my biggest concern. 
   All the others are minor. Well, atleast second. 
 Well, change that, I guess since there's no change to 
 the bookmarks, then they move up to the number one 
 position.
 

With apologies to Smiles/OP:

So, why not give 2.0a3pre a whirl and test? You can run it in parallel
with 1.1.14 without it affecting (infecting) your 1.1.14. I've been
pleasantly surprised with 2.0a3pre and have been using it exclusively
for the past few days (reserving 1.1.14 for backup and comparison
testing). I still have a few primary issues:

1. I get 3 master password logins at startup.
2. Notification of new pop3 emails on the servers isn't working...
currently you need to set for automatic download or check your Get
Msg/Get all New Messages' manually.
3. Some add-on's that I've tested are somewhat buggy with this version -
Sqlite doesn't bring up places.sqlite (my external Sqlite app does
fine), Xsidebar honked on my today  required a reload/install, Mozilla
Prefbar is still learning to clear data... etc.

But overall it's been working pretty well. I very much like the fact
that the default theme follows my standard GTK Gnome (linux) theme for
buttons, windows etc.

Anyway; give it a spin. That is the only way (as I see it) that it will
get tuned and tested for release (having old complainers test :-).


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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Ed Mullen

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

The only places.sqlite files on my system are in my Firefox profiles.


The Places-based history has been introduced after the build you are
using (SM2a2).

HTH

Jens



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Re: [OT] 2.x - was Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-20 Thread Philip Chee
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:52:33 -0800, NoOp wrote:

 fine), Xsidebar honked on my today  required a reload/install, Mozilla
 Prefbar is still learning to clear data... etc.

If you are on the 2.0a3pre trunk nightlies, every few weeks some change
affects xSidebar and then I push out a new xsidebar-unstable. So if
something breaks with xSidebar, go and download the -unstable *again*. I
don't change the file name - but I have started to bump the internal
version number (this wasn't important with SeaMonkey 1.x as XPFE builds
ignored version numbers completely).

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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-19 Thread Ed Mullen

Daniel wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Smiles wrote:

I had three address books if I copy them to my profile in SM.1.13 will
SeaMonkey pick them up directly or do I have to edit a file


Click Bookmarks, select Manage Bookmarks and then, in the Bookmark
Manager select File and Open Bookmarks File.


Bookmarks have nothing to do with the Address Book! ;-)

Greetings,

Jens



This always confuses me...Do address books contain Bookmarked Addresses
or personal e-mail addresses??Get caught almost every time!!

Thanks Jens.



A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page.  Stored in the 
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.


An email address is, well, an email address.  Personal or not.  They are 
stored in the various .mab address book files.


There are multiple ways to save bookmarks and email addresses into those 
locations.  But, they are different and have nothing to do with one another.


In SM there is a Status Bar in the bottom lower-left of the SM window. 
 There are various icons there.  The last one opens the Address Book.


On the Menu Bar at the top of the browser window is an item called 
Bookmarks.  Click it and explore.  And open Help and enter bookmarks 
in the search pane and read.


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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-19 Thread Daniel

Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Smiles wrote:

I had three address books if I copy them to my profile in SM.1.13 will
SeaMonkey pick them up directly or do I have to edit a file


Click Bookmarks, select Manage Bookmarks and then, in the Bookmark
Manager select File and Open Bookmarks File.


Bookmarks have nothing to do with the Address Book! ;-)

Greetings,

Jens



This always confuses me...Do address books contain Bookmarked Addresses
or personal e-mail addresses??Get caught almost every time!!

Thanks Jens.



A bookmark is a URL to a (typically) Web page. Stored in the
bookmarks.html file or the SQLite equivalent in SM2.

An email address is, well, an email address. Personal or not. They are
stored in the various .mab address book files.

There are multiple ways to save bookmarks and email addresses into those
locations. But, they are different and have nothing to do with one another.

In SM there is a Status Bar in the bottom lower-left of the SM window.
There are various icons there. The last one opens the Address Book.

On the Menu Bar at the top of the browser window is an item called
Bookmarks. Click it and explore. And open Help and enter bookmarks
in the search pane and read.



Thanks for that, Ed. My question was, more or less, rhetorical!

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Re: Help lost HD and backup now recovering

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

Ed Mullen wrote:

In SM there is a Status Bar in the bottom lower-left of the SM window. 
 There are various icons there.  The last one opens the Address Book.


nope, not for me.  The last one is chatzilla

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