Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/22/2009 6:47 AM PT, Mark Hansen typed: I noticed a design flaw? If the e-mail uses the same titles, it seems to organize into that same thread even though they are not the same, just the same titles. E-mail doesn't have the References header, so I'm pretty sure it must thread via the subject header. Ah thanks. But of course, as we've learned in another branch of this thread, when an e-mail has a Reference header, it is used. When it doesn't have one, then the Subject is used (this happens by default in 1.1.X, and not by default in 2.X). Interesting. Is there a way to tell SM not to merge if no reference headers? -- Although you're a little ant, I won't bully you. --Sai Yuk from The Legend of Fong Sai Yuk movie (English subtitles) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/23/09 07:19, Ant wrote: On 10/22/2009 6:47 AM PT, Mark Hansen typed: I noticed a design flaw? If the e-mail uses the same titles, it seems to organize into that same thread even though they are not the same, just the same titles. E-mail doesn't have the References header, so I'm pretty sure it must thread via the subject header. Ah thanks. But of course, as we've learned in another branch of this thread, when an e-mail has a Reference header, it is used. When it doesn't have one, then the Subject is used (this happens by default in 1.1.X, and not by default in 2.X). Interesting. Is there a way to tell SM not to merge if no reference headers? Here's what Jens had to say: But not in SM 2, unless you set mail.strict_threading to false. That pref was defaulted to true in bug 449821. HTH Jens It sounds like that preference was available in 1.1.X but defaulted to false. Try setting it to true and see if it does what you want. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/21/09 22:39, Ant wrote: On 10/21/2009 7:34 AM PT, Mark Hansen typed: I noticed a design flaw? If the e-mail uses the same titles, it seems to organize into that same thread even though they are not the same, just the same titles. E-mail doesn't have the References header, so I'm pretty sure it must thread via the subject header. Ah thanks. But of course, as we've learned in another branch of this thread, when an e-mail has a Reference header, it is used. When it doesn't have one, then the Subject is used (this happens by default in 1.1.X, and not by default in 2.X). FYI. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/20/09 21:50, Ant wrote: On 10/19/2009 7:58 AM PT, Ant typed: When you look at your View menu in Mail Newsgroups, do you have both Sort By and Threads sub-menus? Here is what I use: View - Sort By - Order Received View - Sort By - Ascending (or Descending, if you prefer) View - Sort By - Threaded (in my version, all three can be selected at the same time), then View - Threads - All (or whatever you want) Does this not do what you want? Perfect. I didn't check the options in menus. Thanks! :) I noticed a design flaw? If the e-mail uses the same titles, it seems to organize into that same thread even though they are not the same, just the same titles. E-mail doesn't have the References header, so I'm pretty sure it must thread via the subject header. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
Mark Hansen schrieb: On 10/20/09 21:50, Ant wrote: I noticed a design flaw? If the e-mail uses the same titles, it seems to organize into that same thread even though they are not the same, just the same titles. E-mail doesn't have the References header, so I'm pretty sure it must thread via the subject header. Most emails for me do have a reference when viewing the full header. http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4274/rferencesx.png Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/21/2009 7:34 AM PT, Mark Hansen typed: I noticed a design flaw? If the e-mail uses the same titles, it seems to organize into that same thread even though they are not the same, just the same titles. E-mail doesn't have the References header, so I'm pretty sure it must thread via the subject header. Ah thanks. -- Everything tastes better at a picnic... the ants, the sand, everything. --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/19/2009 7:58 AM PT, Ant typed: When you look at your View menu in Mail Newsgroups, do you have both Sort By and Threads sub-menus? Here is what I use: View - Sort By - Order Received View - Sort By - Ascending (or Descending, if you prefer) View - Sort By - Threaded (in my version, all three can be selected at the same time), then View - Threads - All (or whatever you want) Does this not do what you want? Perfect. I didn't check the options in menus. Thanks! :) I noticed a design flaw? If the e-mail uses the same titles, it seems to organize into that same thread even though they are not the same, just the same titles. -- Why eat ants when an uncle will do? --Tymoutta Aardvarka of Sarcastica /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is/was listening to a song on his home computer: Hooverphonic - Inhaler ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
Ant schrieb: On 10/18/2009 4:15 PM PT, Martin Freitag typed: I didn't even know SeaMonkey v1.1.18's e-mails could be sorted by threads. I always had it sorted by dates. I was wondering if there was a way to short threads by newest/updated dates. I replied to an old e-mail thread and it was not at the top (sorted by newest to oldest). WFM. Here's a screen capture (censored out sensitive e-mail addresses) example: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1275/screenshotlu.gif ... I replied to an old e-mail last night (10/17/2009) at 10:49 PM PDT. Shouldn't this thread be at the very top (sorted from newest at top to oldest at bottom)? Um, if you sort by Date, there should be an arrow in the date-column-header I think. http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4849/sortbydate.png regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/19/09 06:43, Ant wrote: On 10/19/2009 12:39 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed: I didn't even know SeaMonkey v1.1.18's e-mails could be sorted by threads. I always had it sorted by dates. I was wondering if there was a way to short threads by newest/updated dates. I replied to an old e-mail thread and it was not at the top (sorted by newest to oldest). WFM. Here's a screen capture (censored out sensitive e-mail addresses) example: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1275/screenshotlu.gif ... I replied to an old e-mail last night (10/17/2009) at 10:49 PM PDT. Shouldn't this thread be at the very top (sorted from newest at top to oldest at bottom)? Um, if you sort by Date, there should be an arrow in the date-column-header I think. http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4849/sortbydate.png regards When I click on Date column's header, then I lose the threading format. :( Phil, When you look at your View menu in Mail Newsgroups, do you have both Sort By and Threads sub-menus? Here is what I use: View - Sort By - Order Received View - Sort By - Ascending (or Descending, if you prefer) View - Sort By - Threaded (in my version, all three can be selected at the same time), then View - Threads - All (or whatever you want) Does this not do what you want? Best Regards, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/19/2009 7:17 AM PT, Mark Hansen typed: When I click on Date column's header, then I lose the threading format. :( Phil, When you look at your View menu in Mail Newsgroups, do you have both Sort By and Threads sub-menus? Here is what I use: View - Sort By - Order Received View - Sort By - Ascending (or Descending, if you prefer) View - Sort By - Threaded (in my version, all three can be selected at the same time), then View - Threads - All (or whatever you want) Does this not do what you want? Perfect. I didn't check the options in menus. Thanks! :) -- Ant colonies are remarkably similar to cities. No one choreographs the action, not even the queen ant, but ant behavior is controlled by swarm logic--put 10,000 dumb ants together, and they become smart. They will calculate the shortest routes to food supplies sniffing out pheromone signals from other ants and Johnson says people do the same thing in cities using low-level interactions of people on the street. --Alex Cukan, Stories of modern science, United Press International, October 8, 2001 /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
Ant wrote: I didn't even know SeaMonkey v1.1.18's e-mails could be sorted by threads. I always had it sorted by dates. I was wondering if there was a way to short threads by newest/updated dates. I replied to an old e-mail thread and it was not at the top (sorted by newest to oldest). If unavailale in SM v1.x, then can SM v2.x do this? It would be nice in threaded mode to have a choice of sort by first post date and sort by most recent post date, but it's one of those features you only really miss a few times a year. What I would like is an explicit 'sort by date received' rather than date in the headers. I realize this might be hard to do on some mail servers, but spammers seem to time shift their dates and screw up the sort. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
Ant wrote: On 10/19/2009 12:39 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed: I didn't even know SeaMonkey v1.1.18's e-mails could be sorted by threads. I always had it sorted by dates. I was wondering if there was a way to short threads by newest/updated dates. I replied to an old e-mail thread and it was not at the top (sorted by newest to oldest). WFM. Here's a screen capture (censored out sensitive e-mail addresses) example: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1275/screenshotlu.gif ... I replied to an old e-mail last night (10/17/2009) at 10:49 PM PDT. Shouldn't this thread be at the very top (sorted from newest at top to oldest at bottom)? Um, if you sort by Date, there should be an arrow in the date-column-header I think. http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4849/sortbydate.png regards When I click on Date column's header, then I lose the threading format. :( Have you checked your setting [for the option under Sort]... for Ascending or Descending; after selecting Date and Threaded? bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
Bill Davidsen schrieb: It would be nice in threaded mode to have a choice of sort by first post date and sort by most recent post date, but it's one of those features you only really miss a few times a year. What I would like is an explicit 'sort by date received' rather than date in the headers. I realize this might be hard to do on some mail servers, but spammers seem to time shift their dates and screw up the sort. There is an option for date and one for received here in the menu. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
Ant schrieb: I didn't even know SeaMonkey v1.1.18's e-mails could be sorted by threads. I always had it sorted by dates. I was wondering if there was a way to short threads by newest/updated dates. I replied to an old e-mail thread and it was not at the top (sorted by newest to oldest). WFM. If unavailale in SM v1.x, then can SM v2.x do this? I'm using SM2 here... -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sort e-mails by newest/updated threads?
On 10/18/2009 4:15 PM PT, Martin Freitag typed: I didn't even know SeaMonkey v1.1.18's e-mails could be sorted by threads. I always had it sorted by dates. I was wondering if there was a way to short threads by newest/updated dates. I replied to an old e-mail thread and it was not at the top (sorted by newest to oldest). WFM. Here's a screen capture (censored out sensitive e-mail addresses) example: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1275/screenshotlu.gif ... I replied to an old e-mail last night (10/17/2009) at 10:49 PM PDT. Shouldn't this thread be at the very top (sorted from newest at top to oldest at bottom)? -- Don't even step on an ant. --Greek /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is/was listening to a song on his home computer: TranceCrafter - [TC] The Speed of Sound (ID: 279076) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
