Re: seamonkey win10 facebook messenger

[VINCENT]

nobody uses this ??
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seamonkey win10 facebook messenger

[VINCENT]

Hello everyone;
after a lot of testing and reinstallation, I still can not get the video 
/ mic with messenger in Facebook.
Win10 requests to activate the cam and the microphone, but it does not 
say how: evil:

it may be a known problem, but for now I have not found the solution.
If someone had one (or more) tracks ...: wink:

I have two PCs
1 with mint Seamonkey => "video dialogue" ok, it works
1 with win10 Seamonkey => "video dialogue" does not work, however with 
Firefox there is no problem
  I do not know much about it but the available version of Firefox is 
66x, the version in Seamonkey is 52x

  how to make Seamonkey accept to win10?

Thank you in advance for your answers
===

Bonjour tous;
après beaucoup de tests et de réinstallation, je n'arrive toujours pas à 
faire fonctionner la vidéo/micro avec messenger dans Facebook.
Win10 demandes d'activer la cam et le micro, mais il ne dit pas comment 
: evil:
c'est peut-être un problème connu, mais pour l'instant je n'ai pas 
trouvé la solution.

Si quelqu'un avait une (ou plusieurs) piste... : wink:

j'ai deux PC
1 avec mint Seamonkey => "dialogue vidéo" ok, ça fonctionne
1 avec win10 Seamonkey => "dialogue vidéo" ne fonctionne pas, par contre 
avec Firefox il n'y a pas de problème
 je n'y connais pas grand-chose mais la version disponible de Firefox 
est la 66 x, la version dans Seamonkey est la 52 x

 comment faire accepter Seamonkey à win10 ?

Merci d'avance pour vos réponses
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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Ron]

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:

Hi,
Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, 
all the images disappear. I never have this happen with other browsers. 
The only change I have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey.

I use Win 7.
Has anyone else had this problem?



I just started having the same problem with some pictures.
Here's how I fixed it.

Click the edit tab select
Preferences>Privacy & Security>Images
Click the manage permissions button
Search for fbcdn.net
click on the permissions tab
Set to allow.

That fixed it for me.


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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> On #2 #3, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:
 Hi, Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with
 SeaMonkey. Now and then, all the images disappear. I never
 have this happen with other browsers. The only change I
 have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey. I use Win
 7. Has anyone else had this problem?
>>> I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the
>>> problem? If I switch to a Default profile, it fixes the
>>> problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile
>>
>> Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and
>> extensions?
> None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to
> SM with the Default Profile instead of Regular Profile. I have to
> find out what in my Regular profile is preventing the display of images 
> in facebook

 1) Ad blocker?

 2) Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Images (o) Do not load
 any images (o) Only load images that come from the originating
 server (•) Load all images

 3) If you've ruled out both of those, check your permissions in
 Data Manager to see if you've blocked images at facebook.com.

>>> Checked all of that and I don't see a problem. I did note that
>>> someone uploaded a video to one of my Face Book groups and I can see
>>> the video.
>>>
>> Arnie, something else to try! In Edit-Preferences->Privacy &
>> Security->Images under Image Acceptance Policy have you got "Load all
>> images" selected or something else?? The middle setting could be your
>> problem!
> 
> That was my item 2) above; he ruled it out.
> 
Just to close this out, I found a complete system backup dated 2/20/2018 and 
did a Restore to that
date. That solved the problem. Thanks for all of the suggesstions
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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Daniel]

On #2 #3, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On #2 #3, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:

Hi, Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with
SeaMonkey. Now and then, all the images disappear. I never
have this happen with other browsers. The only change I
have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey. I use Win
7. Has anyone else had this problem?

I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the
problem? If I switch to a Default profile, it fixes the
problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile


Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and
extensions?

None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to
SM with the Default Profile instead of Regular Profile. I have to
find out what in my Regular profile is preventing the display of 
images in facebook


1) Ad blocker?

2) Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Images (o) Do not load
any images (o) Only load images that come from the originating
server (•) Load all images

3) If you've ruled out both of those, check your permissions in
Data Manager to see if you've blocked images at facebook.com.


Checked all of that and I don't see a problem. I did note that
someone uploaded a video to one of my Face Book groups and I can see
the video.


Arnie, something else to try! In Edit-Preferences->Privacy &
Security->Images under Image Acceptance Policy have you got "Load all
images" selected or something else?? The middle setting could be your
problem!


That was my item 2) above; he ruled it out.


Ah!! So it was. Sorry for the noise!

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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> On #2 #3, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:
 Hi, Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with
 SeaMonkey. Now and then, all the images disappear. I never
 have this happen with other browsers. The only change I
 have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey. I use Win
 7. Has anyone else had this problem?
>>> I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the
>>> problem? If I switch to a Default profile, it fixes the
>>> problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile
>>
>> Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and
>> extensions?
> None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to
> SM with the Default Profile instead of Regular Profile. I have to
> find out what in my Regular profile is preventing the display of images 
> in facebook

 1) Ad blocker?

 2) Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Images (o) Do not load
 any images (o) Only load images that come from the originating
 server (•) Load all images

 3) If you've ruled out both of those, check your permissions in
 Data Manager to see if you've blocked images at facebook.com.

>>> Checked all of that and I don't see a problem. I did note that
>>> someone uploaded a video to one of my Face Book groups and I can see
>>> the video.
>>>
>> Arnie, something else to try! In Edit-Preferences->Privacy &
>> Security->Images under Image Acceptance Policy have you got "Load all
>> images" selected or something else?? The middle setting could be your
>> problem!
> 
> That was my item 2) above; he ruled it out.
> 
Thanks guys. I have a second computer with the exact same configuration and I 
see the images. I will
copy the profile from that one to see if that works. However, taking a day or 
two off for the
hurricane.
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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:

On #2 #3, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:

Hi, Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with
SeaMonkey. Now and then, all the images disappear. I never
have this happen with other browsers. The only change I
have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey. I use Win
7. Has anyone else had this problem?

I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the
problem? If I switch to a Default profile, it fixes the
problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile


Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and
extensions?

None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to
SM with the Default Profile instead of Regular Profile. I have to
find out what in my Regular profile is preventing the display of 
images in facebook


1) Ad blocker?

2) Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Images (o) Do not load
any images (o) Only load images that come from the originating
server (•) Load all images

3) If you've ruled out both of those, check your permissions in
Data Manager to see if you've blocked images at facebook.com.


Checked all of that and I don't see a problem. I did note that
someone uploaded a video to one of my Face Book groups and I can see
the video.


Arnie, something else to try! In Edit-Preferences->Privacy &
Security->Images under Image Acceptance Policy have you got "Load all
images" selected or something else?? The middle setting could be your
problem!


That was my item 2) above; he ruled it out.

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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Daniel]

On #2 #3, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:

Hi, Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with
SeaMonkey. Now and then, all the images disappear. I never
have this happen with other browsers. The only change I
have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey. I use Win
7. Has anyone else had this problem?

I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the
problem? If I switch to a Default profile, it fixes the
problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile


Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and
extensions?

None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to
SM with the Default Profile instead of Regular Profile. I have to
find out what in my Regular profile is preventing the display of 
images in facebook


1) Ad blocker?

2) Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Images (o) Do not load
any images (o) Only load images that come from the originating
server (•) Load all images

3) If you've ruled out both of those, check your permissions in
Data Manager to see if you've blocked images at facebook.com.


Checked all of that and I don't see a problem. I did note that
someone uploaded a video to one of my Face Book groups and I can see
the video.


Arnie, something else to try! In Edit-Preferences->Privacy &
Security->Images under Image Acceptance Policy have you got "Load all
images" selected or something else?? The middle setting could be your
problem!

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418

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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Arnie Goetchius]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:
> Hi,
> Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, 
> all the images
> disappear. I
> never have this happen with other browsers. The only change I have made 
> to my computer is
> upgrading
> SeaMonkey.
> I use Win 7.
> Has anyone else had this problem?
 I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the problem? If I 
 switch to a Default
 profile, it fixes the problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile
>>>
>>> Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and extensions?
>> None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to SM with the 
>> Default Profile instead
>> of Regular Profile. I have to find out what in my Regular profile is 
>> preventing the display of
>> images in facebook
> 
> 1) Ad blocker?
> 
> 2) Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Images
> (o) Do not load any images
> (o) Only load images that come from the originating server
> (•) Load all images
> 
> 3) If you've ruled out both of those, check your permissions in Data Manager 
> to see if you've
> blocked images at facebook.com.
> 
Checked all of that and I don't see a problem. I did note that someone uploaded 
a video to one of my
Face Book groups and I can see the video.
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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Lee]

On 3/6/18, Arnie Goetchius  wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:
 Hi,
 Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then,
 all the images disappear. I
 never have this happen with other browsers. The only change I have made
 to my computer is upgrading
 SeaMonkey.
 I use Win 7.
 Has anyone else had this problem?
>>> I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the problem? If I
>>> switch to a Default
>>> profile, it fixes the problem but I really need to fix my Regular
>>> profile
>>
>> Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and extensions?
> None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to SM with the
> Default Profile instead
> of Regular Profile. I have to find out what in my Regular profile is
> preventing the display of
> images in facebook

I use winmerge ( http://winmerge.org/ ) to compare prefs.js in the
regular & new default profile to see what the differences are.

Lee
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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:

Hi,
Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, all 
the images disappear. I
never have this happen with other browsers. The only change I have made to my 
computer is upgrading
SeaMonkey.
I use Win 7.
Has anyone else had this problem?

I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the problem? If I switch 
to a Default
profile, it fixes the problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile


Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and extensions?

None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to SM with the 
Default Profile instead
of Regular Profile. I have to find out what in my Regular profile is preventing 
the display of
images in facebook


1) Ad blocker?

2) Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Images
(o) Do not load any images
(o) Only load images that come from the originating server
(•) Load all images

3) If you've ruled out both of those, check your permissions in Data 
Manager to see if you've blocked images at facebook.com.


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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Arnie Goetchius]

Ant wrote:
> On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, 
>>> all the images disappear. I
>>> never have this happen with other browsers. The only change I have made to 
>>> my computer is upgrading
>>> SeaMonkey.
>>> I use Win 7.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
>> I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the problem? If I 
>> switch to a Default
>> profile, it fixes the problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile
> 
> Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and extensions?
None of that helps. The only thing that works, is if I login to SM with the 
Default Profile instead
of Regular Profile. I have to find out what in my Regular profile is preventing 
the display of
images in facebook
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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

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On 3/6/2018 7:17 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:

Hi,
Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, all 
the images disappear. I
never have this happen with other browsers. The only change I have made to my 
computer is upgrading
SeaMonkey.
I use Win 7.
Has anyone else had this problem?

I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the problem? If I switch 
to a Default
profile, it fixes the problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile


Try clearkng your caches, disabling your addons, and extensions?
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Re: Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Arnie Goetchius]

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:
> Hi,
> Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, all 
> the images disappear. I
> never have this happen with other browsers. The only change I have made to my 
> computer is upgrading
> SeaMonkey.
> I use Win 7.
> Has anyone else had this problem?
I just started having this problem. Did you ever solve the problem? If I switch 
to a Default
profile, it fixes the problem but I really need to fix my Regular profile
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Re: Seamonkey and facebook

[Cathy Palmer-Lister]

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 1/12/2018 at 10:47 AM, Cathy Palmer-Lister created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Hi,
Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and 
then, all the images disappear. I never have this happen with other 
browsers. The only change I have made to my computer is upgrading 
SeaMonkey.

I use Win 7.
Has anyone else had this problem?


FB working fine here.  Try SafeMode.


Thanks, will try.

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Re: Seamonkey and facebook

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On 1/12/2018 at 10:47 AM, Cathy Palmer-Lister created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Hi,
Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, 
all the images disappear. I never have this happen with other browsers. 
The only change I have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey.

I use Win 7.
Has anyone else had this problem?


FB working fine here.  Try SafeMode.

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Seamonkey and facebook

[Cathy Palmer-Lister]

Hi,
Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, 
all the images disappear. I never have this happen with other browsers. 
The only change I have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey.

I use Win 7.
Has anyone else had this problem?
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Problem using SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Cathy Palmer-Lister]

Hi,
Lately I have had trouble viewing fb posts with SeaMonkey. Now and then, 
all the images disappear. I never have this happen with other browsers. 
The only change I have made to my computer is upgrading SeaMonkey.

I use Win 7.
Has anyone else had this problem?
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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

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Bill Davidsen wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:

OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's 
programmers fault ?


DoctorBill
change your user agent to Firefox: 
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/



OK.

I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

DoctorBill


It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
installed. You'll need to add some yourself.

You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
Firefox 2.0 or whatever.

There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:

After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
Tools - User Agent Switcher - Options - Options, click on User
Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
data with the data you want, if different):

  Description   : Firefox 2.0
  User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
  App Name  : Firefox
  App Version   : 2.0.0.6
  Platform  : Linux
  Vendor: Firefox
  Vendor Sub:

For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.

Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, 
just
go to Tools - User Agent Switcher - Firefox (or whatever you called 
it)

and your browser will now send the new UA string.

Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.

Good luck,



To me this is quite complex and I do not understand it.

I did as you said, but don't know why or what it does.

So I guess...were you to give me a link that explains what a User 
Agent is and what all that stuff above is/does...I would become more 
erudite in the subject matter.


As of now - I have no idea what is going on - as per usual...

Mark is not as clear as he might be, you are NOT xchanging your user 
agent to FF, just changing the way it identifies itself to the site, so 
the site will behave. You are changing the UA *string* only.


That said, he did get you going in the right direction. Since most sites 
just parse for Firefox in the string, you can change it to read 
something like:

  Seamonkey, not Firefox
and it should work. I got that trick here, it's not original to me. You 
can set it in the about:config window.


Isn't there a nice wiki on this, and if not, why?

Well, this setting does affect some sites. Try for instance 
http://fr.yahoo.com/
The right part of the screen - a good part of it being ads - has 
disappeared. I had to go back to the original setting.


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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[John Doue]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers
fault ?

DoctorBill


After having learned about User Agents and knowing that so many web
sites are written mostly for IE - wouldn't it be better for me to
set the User Agent to IE 6.0 WinXP ? I also have PrefBar

Wouldn't THAT give me the best interaction with almost ALL web sites ?

DoctorBill


No, not at all.

First of all, SM uses the same rendering engine as FF.  If you encounter 
a truly IE only page, spoofing as IE will not make it render better. 
Leaving the UA spoofed as IE will also cause plugin problems, 
particularly with Java.


Second, you should never leave your US spoofed.  Al that does is 
misreport the number of people using SM, and make sit all the less 
likely that web designers will support the browser we love. Prefbar, at 
least, will always set the ua back to the real ua when you restart. Only 
spoof the UA when there is no other way to enter az site, and even then, 
wrte them to let them know that their site is accessible with SeaMonkey, 
and that they should adjust their browser sniffer accordingly.


Lee

I think it is easier to use the IEtab extension.

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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Leonidas Jones]

John Doue wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers
fault ?

DoctorBill


After having learned about User Agents and knowing that so many web
sites are written mostly for IE - wouldn't it be better for me to
set the User Agent to IE 6.0 WinXP ? I also have PrefBar

Wouldn't THAT give me the best interaction with almost ALL web sites ?

DoctorBill


No, not at all.

First of all, SM uses the same rendering engine as FF. If you
encounter a truly IE only page, spoofing as IE will not make it render
better. Leaving the UA spoofed as IE will also cause plugin problems,
particularly with Java.

Second, you should never leave your US spoofed. Al that does is
misreport the number of people using SM, and make sit all the less
likely that web designers will support the browser we love. Prefbar,
at least, will always set the ua back to the real ua when you restart.
Only spoof the UA when there is no other way to enter az site, and
even then, wrte them to let them know that their site is accessible
with SeaMonkey, and that they should adjust their browser sniffer
accordingly.

Lee

I think it is easier to use the IEtab extension.



Of course, all you are doing then is running IE in a SeaMonkey shell.

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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


DoctorBill


After having learned about User Agents and knowing that so many web
sites are written mostly for IE -  wouldn't it be better for me to
set the User Agent to IE 6.0 WinXP ?  I also have PrefBar

Wouldn't THAT give me the best interaction with almost ALL web sites ?

DoctorBill


I've done that many times, and I still had problems.

Anyways, the best of both worlds would be the IETab 
extension: 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/1419


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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Leonidas Jones]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers
fault ?

DoctorBill


After having learned about User Agents and knowing that so many web
sites are written mostly for IE - wouldn't it be better for me to
set the User Agent to IE 6.0 WinXP ? I also have PrefBar

Wouldn't THAT give me the best interaction with almost ALL web sites ?

DoctorBill


No, not at all.

First of all, SM uses the same rendering engine as FF.  If you encounter 
a truly IE only page, spoofing as IE will not make it render better. 
Leaving the UA spoofed as IE will also cause plugin problems, 
particularly with Java.


Second, you should never leave your US spoofed.  Al that does is 
misreport the number of people using SM, and make sit all the less 
likely that web designers will support the browser we love. Prefbar, at 
least, will always set the ua back to the real ua when you restart. 
Only spoof the UA when there is no other way to enter az site, and even 
then, wrte them to let them know that their site is accessible with 
SeaMonkey, and that they should adjust their browser sniffer accordingly.


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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[DoctorBill]

OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


DoctorBill


change your user agent to Firefox: 
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/




OK.

I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[DoctorBill]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


DoctorBill


change your user agent to Firefox: 
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/



I am trying to save the xpi but cannot get it.

Whatever I do (right click, Ctrl click, various combinations) always 
brings up htm not xpi.


I have run into this problem before and there never seems to be the
same trick to it.

The user-agent-switcher.xpi file is not on my hard drive (search brings
nothing out).

I'd like to save it.

I'll try saving the whole page and see if the xpi file is among those 
things saved...


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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Mark Hansen]

On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:
 OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

 A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
 using SeaMonkey 1.1

 I have to use I.E.

 Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
 fault ?

 DoctorBill
 
 change your user agent to Firefox: 
 http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/
 
 
 OK.
 
 I clicked the link and installed the xpi.
 
 Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?
 
 DoctorBill

It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
installed. You'll need to add some yourself.

You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
Firefox 2.0 or whatever.

There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:

After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
Tools - User Agent Switcher - Options - Options, click on User
Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
data with the data you want, if different):

  Description   : Firefox 2.0
  User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
  App Name  : Firefox
  App Version   : 2.0.0.6
  Platform  : Linux
  Vendor: Firefox
  Vendor Sub:

For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.

Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, just
go to Tools - User Agent Switcher - Firefox (or whatever you called it)
and your browser will now send the new UA string.

Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.

Good luck,

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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Benoit Renard]

raf wrote:

Have tried making SeaMonkey the default browser.


This won't help at all.
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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[DoctorBill]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:

OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


DoctorBill
change your user agent to Firefox: 
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/



OK.

I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

DoctorBill


It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
installed. You'll need to add some yourself.

You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
Firefox 2.0 or whatever.

There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:

After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
Tools - User Agent Switcher - Options - Options, click on User
Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
data with the data you want, if different):

  Description   : Firefox 2.0
  User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
  App Name  : Firefox
  App Version   : 2.0.0.6
  Platform  : Linux
  Vendor: Firefox
  Vendor Sub:

For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.

Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, just
go to Tools - User Agent Switcher - Firefox (or whatever you called it)
and your browser will now send the new UA string.

Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.

Good luck,



To me this is quite complex and I do not understand it.

I did as you said, but don't know why or what it does.

So I guess...were you to give me a link that explains what a User 
Agent is and what all that stuff above is/does...I would become more 
erudite in the subject matter.


As of now - I have no idea what is going on - as per usual...

DoctorBill
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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Rufus]

DoctorBill wrote:

raf wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


DoctorBill

Have tried making SeaMonkey the default browser.


It IS the Default browser.

I stay away from IE unless I am FORCED to use it as in this case.

DoctorBill


...I won't pay any attention to or visit any website that forces me to 
use any specific browser...it's MY choice, not theirs.


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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Mark Hansen]

On 04/12/09 14:14, DoctorBill wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:
 OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

 A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
 using SeaMonkey 1.1

 I have to use I.E.

 Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
 fault ?

 DoctorBill
 change your user agent to Firefox: 
 http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/

 OK.

 I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

 Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

 DoctorBill
 
 It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
 correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
 installed. You'll need to add some yourself.
 
 You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
 browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
 Firefox 2.0 or whatever.
 
 There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:
 
 After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
 Tools - User Agent Switcher - Options - Options, click on User
 Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
 data with the data you want, if different):
 
   Description   : Firefox 2.0
   User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
   App Name  : Firefox
   App Version   : 2.0.0.6
   Platform  : Linux
   Vendor: Firefox
   Vendor Sub:
 
 For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.
 
 Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, just
 go to Tools - User Agent Switcher - Firefox (or whatever you called it)
 and your browser will now send the new UA string.
 
 Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
 browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.
 
 Good luck,
 
 
 To me this is quite complex and I do not understand it.
 
 I did as you said, but don't know why or what it does.
 
 So I guess...were you to give me a link that explains what a User 
 Agent is and what all that stuff above is/does...I would become more 
 erudite in the subject matter.
 
 As of now - I have no idea what is going on - as per usual...
 
 DoctorBill

Here's the $.50 tour.

The page you're trying to view using SeaMonkey is trying to provide
page content specific to the browser you're using. Some browsers
work differently in some regards, and the page author/designer is
trying to make sure that his page content works in each one.

To deliver the correct content for your specific browser, the page
author/designer has included browser detection logic in his page.
This detection logic tells him which browser you're using, so he
can deliver the correct browser-specific content.

The problem is that the page author/designer doesn't really know
what he is doing, and has designed his page to detect which browser
you're using through a flawed technique. His page will work in
Gecko-based browsers (like Firefox, SeaMonkey, etc.) but instead of
detecting this, he is looking specifically for Firefox browsers.

So, to get his page content that works with Gecko-based browsers
(like SeaMonkey), you need your SeaMonkey browser to pretend to be
Firefox. You can do this using the User Agent Switcher.

Of course, the real problem is in the assumptions made by the page
author/designer about how the browser is detected. Some feel you can
tell the page author about this and convince him to fix his incorrect
assumptions. I'm not so optimistic, but each to their own :-)

Please let me know if this leaves you with any other questions.
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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Tony]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:

OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


DoctorBill
change your user agent to Firefox: 
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/



OK.

I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

DoctorBill


It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
installed. You'll need to add some yourself.

You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
Firefox 2.0 or whatever.

There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:

After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
Tools - User Agent Switcher - Options - Options, click on User
Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
data with the data you want, if different):

  Description   : Firefox 2.0
  User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
  App Name  : Firefox
  App Version   : 2.0.0.6
  Platform  : Linux
  Vendor: Firefox
  Vendor Sub:

For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.

Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, just
go to Tools - User Agent Switcher - Firefox (or whatever you called it)
and your browser will now send the new UA string.

Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.

Good luck,

I've noticed how Facebook works with SM as well, and reported it via the 
 broken web site tool.


I use Prefbar's user agent switcher and also spoof FF 2.0.x Linux. 
Facebook still complains about an outdated browser but the buttons work.

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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[David E. Ross]

On 4/12/2009 2:37 PM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:
 OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

 A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
 using SeaMonkey 1.1

 I have to use I.E.

 Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's 
 programmers fault ?

 DoctorBill
 change your user agent to Firefox: 
 http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/

 OK.

 I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

 Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

 DoctorBill
 It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
 correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
 installed. You'll need to add some yourself.

 You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
 browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
 Firefox 2.0 or whatever.

 There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:

 After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
 Tools - User Agent Switcher - Options - Options, click on User
 Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
 data with the data you want, if different):

   Description   : Firefox 2.0
   User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
   App Name  : Firefox
   App Version   : 2.0.0.6
   Platform  : Linux
   Vendor: Firefox
   Vendor Sub:

 For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.

 Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, just
 go to Tools - User Agent Switcher - Firefox (or whatever you called it)
 and your browser will now send the new UA string.

 Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
 browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.

 Good luck,

 To me this is quite complex and I do not understand it.

 I did as you said, but don't know why or what it does.

 So I guess...were you to give me a link that explains what a User 
 Agent is and what all that stuff above is/does...I would become more 
 erudite in the subject matter.

 As of now - I have no idea what is going on - as per usual...

 DoctorBill
 
 a User Agent tells a little about yourself.  Click on 
 any posting, then click on View, Message Source, then 
 look for User-Agent.  Then the bit after that tell 
 websites what you're using, for example, yours says:
 
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
 rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1
 
 and this tells us that you're using Windows XP [NT 
 5.1], you're using the English U.S. version, and you're 
 using SeaMonkey 1.1.
 
 With the User Agent Switcher, you can pretend to be 
 something else, like another operating system, or 
 another browser.
 
 The User Agents are used to tell the website whether 
 the page should be shown for IE browsers, or for 
 Netscape browsers, or for Firefox browsers, and so 
 forth.  A lot of websites do something called browser 
 sniffing, and they sniff for either IE or Firefox.  So, 
 if you're using another browser, then you're SOL.
 
 When you're using the UA Switcher, basically what 
 you're doing is pretending to be something you're not. 
 So, if you're using SM, and a site doesn't work, then 
 switch your UA to pretend you're FF, then chances are 
 you'll be able to view the site without problems.
 

For a novice (which the original poster seems to be), we need to explain
that the reason SeaMonkey pretending to be Firefox works okay is that
both use the same Gecko rendering engine (the guts of the software that
displays Web pages and interfaces with Web servers).  Yes, SeaMonkey
1.1.x uses and older version of Gecko than does Firefox 3.x; but the
difference in results is not great (especially since many, many Web
sites were developed before the Firefox 3.x version of Gecko was
released).

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[David E. Ross]

On 4/12/2009 2:14 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:
 OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

 A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
 using SeaMonkey 1.1

 I have to use I.E.

 Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
 fault ?

 DoctorBill
 change your user agent to Firefox: 
 http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/

 OK.

 I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

 Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

 DoctorBill
 It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
 correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
 installed. You'll need to add some yourself.

 You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
 browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
 Firefox 2.0 or whatever.

 There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:

 After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
 Tools - User Agent Switcher - Options - Options, click on User
 Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
 data with the data you want, if different):

   Description   : Firefox 2.0
   User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
   App Name  : Firefox
   App Version   : 2.0.0.6
   Platform  : Linux
   Vendor: Firefox
   Vendor Sub:

 For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.

 Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, just
 go to Tools - User Agent Switcher - Firefox (or whatever you called it)
 and your browser will now send the new UA string.

 Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
 browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.

 Good luck,

 
 To me this is quite complex and I do not understand it.
 
 I did as you said, but don't know why or what it does.
 
 So I guess...were you to give me a link that explains what a User 
 Agent is and what all that stuff above is/does...I would become more 
 erudite in the subject matter.
 
 As of now - I have no idea what is going on - as per usual...
 
 DoctorBill

For User Agent, see my
http://www.rossde.com/internet/intr_gloss.html#agent.

For a discussion of sniffing and why it is generally a questionable
practice, see my
http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff.  Notice
especially the 4th bullet in that section of Web page.

-- 
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Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Bill Davidsen]

DoctorBill wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 04/12/09 06:36, DoctorBill wrote:

OPeter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's 
programmers fault ?


DoctorBill
change your user agent to Firefox: 
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/



OK.

I clicked the link and installed the xpi.

Do I do anything else or is the problem fixed ?

DoctorBill


It's been a while since I installed the UA switcher, but if I recall
correctly, it doesn't come with any Firefox user agent strings
installed. You'll need to add some yourself.

You can search the web for lists of user agent strings for various
browsers, then just create the ones you want to emulate, like
Firefox 2.0 or whatever.

There may be an easier way that I am not aware, but try this:

After installing the User Agent XPI file, launch the browser and go to
Tools - User Agent Switcher - Options - Options, click on User
Agents, then click on the Add button. Use the following (replace any
data with the data you want, if different):

  Description   : Firefox 2.0
  User Agent: Gecko/20070802 Firefox/2.0.0.6 SeaMonkey/1.1.4
  App Name  : Firefox
  App Version   : 2.0.0.6
  Platform  : Linux
  Vendor: Firefox
  Vendor Sub:

For Platform, I use Linux. You may want to use Win32 or Windows NT 6.0.

Then, when you want to go to a web site that is improperly sniffing, just
go to Tools - User Agent Switcher - Firefox (or whatever you called it)
and your browser will now send the new UA string.

Keep in mind that the User Agent setting will reset when you close the
browser, so you don't have to worry about setting it back.

Good luck,



To me this is quite complex and I do not understand it.

I did as you said, but don't know why or what it does.

So I guess...were you to give me a link that explains what a User 
Agent is and what all that stuff above is/does...I would become more 
erudite in the subject matter.


As of now - I have no idea what is going on - as per usual...

Mark is not as clear as he might be, you are NOT xchanging your user agent to 
FF, just changing the way it identifies itself to the site, so the site will 
behave. You are changing the UA *string* only.


That said, he did get you going in the right direction. Since most sites just 
parse for Firefox in the string, you can change it to read something like:

  Seamonkey, not Firefox
and it should work. I got that trick here, it's not original to me. You can set 
it in the about:config window.


Isn't there a nice wiki on this, and if not, why?

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SeaMonkey and Facebook

[DoctorBill]

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


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Re: SeaMonkey and Facebook

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to join Facebook recently for some friends and relatives.

A lot of the buttons and Links do not work when I enter Facebook
using SeaMonkey 1.1

I have to use I.E.

Is there anything I can do about this or is it FaceBook's programmers 
fault ?


DoctorBill


change your user agent to Firefox: 
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/


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