Re: [linux - bug 680798] was: Re: User Agent location

[NoOp]

On 08/10/2012 03:50 PM, NoOp wrote:
 Started a new thread so that we don't disturb the UAL thread.
...
Well I _thought_ I was starting a new there... apologies  I'll try again.



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[linux - bug 680798] - Open Dirctory (Troubleshooting Information)

[NoOp]

Started a new thread so that we don't disturb the UAL thread - second try.

NoOp:
 On 08/06/2012 04:43 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

  And there is an easy way to find the profile. Help-Troubleshooting
  Information and near the top of this clicking on 'Open Directory' for
  'Profile Directory'.
 
  Does not work on Linux, though. ;)
 
 Works for me:
 
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120630 Firefox/14.0
 SeaMonkey/2.11

  The above works for you? It has not for me ever. I am now getting
 
  |Timestamp: 08.08.2012 00:42:34
  |Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
  |(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
  |Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
  |Line: 555
 
  in the error console for 'Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0)
  Gecko/2012080719 SeaMonkey/2.14a1-h'
 
  And there is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680798
 
  Hartmut



At first I thought that the error might be 64bit related, but after
multiple tests between 32bit and 64bit I' stumped. Here are my results
(feel free to copy them to the bug report):

Firefox - Ubuntu 12.04

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0

Timestamp: 08/10/2012 01:36:55 PM
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... Component returned failure
code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]  nsresult:
0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)  location: JS frame ::
chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js :: openProfileDirectory :: line
469  data: no]

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1

Timestamp: 08/10/2012 01:49:25 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 525


SeaMonkey - Ubuntu 12.04
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120725 Firefox/15.0
SeaMonkey/2.12

Timestamp: 08/10/2012 01:43:45 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 525

Firefox - 11.04
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/14.0.1
No Errors - works.

SeaMonkey Ubuntu 11.04
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0)
Gecko/20120630 Firefox/14.0 SeaMonkey/2.11
No Errors - works.
SeaMonkey Ubuntu 11.04 - Clean test profile:
No Errors - works.

SeaMonkey - Ubuntu 12.04 using the ~/.mozilla/seamonkey folder from the
11.04 install

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120725
Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12
Build identifier: 20120725204016
Timestamp: 08/10/2012 02:44:44 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 525

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0)
Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11
Timestamp: 08/10/2012 02:49:51 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 525

Firefox Ubuntu 12.04 32bit

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1
No errors - works.

SeaMonkey Ubuntu 12.04 32bit

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0
Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14a1
Build identifier: 20120810003003
Timestamp: 08/10/2012 03:02:24 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 555

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715
Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11
Timestamp: 08/10/2012 03:26:40 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 525
Note: same with safe mode and a clean 'test' profile.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120801 Firefox/15.0
SeaMonkey/2.12 (b3)
Build identifier: 20120801223740
Timestamp: 08/10/2012 03:40:24 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 525




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Re: Increased crashes/instability on SM 2.11 linux x64?

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On 08/09/2012 11:54 PM, Jesse Molina wrote:
 
 I am seeing much increased instability in seamonkey 2.11 on Linux, amd64 
 version.
 
 Can anyone else using SM linux confirm or deny?
 
 I did a memtest86+ overnight just a few days ago to check and everything 
 came up clean.
 

I've not experienced a crash on 32bit or 64bit linux.


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SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

[NoOp]

Sort of like 'Where's Waldo'[1] ...

See how many clicks  pages it takes you to find the SeaMonkey pages.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
Nope. Not there.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/
Nope. Not there.
SeaMonkey isn't a Product.
Hint: You can indeed get to a page with SeaMonkey on it from there...
see how easy it is for you to find it.

When you do get to the page, SeaMonkey is spelled 'Seamonkey'. Not only
do Mozilla dis SeaMonkey by hiding it three obscure pages in, but then
they spell it with a lowercase 'm'.

My we are a select  special project group aren't we?

[1] http://www.findwaldo.com/
http://waldo.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

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On 08/10/2012 07:40 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/10/12 7:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
 Sort of like 'Where's Waldo'[1] ...
 
 See how many clicks  pages it takes you to find the SeaMonkey pages.
 
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
 Nope. Not there.
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/
 Nope. Not there.
 SeaMonkey isn't a Product.
 Hint: You can indeed get to a page with SeaMonkey on it from there...
 see how easy it is for you to find it.
 
 When you do get to the page, SeaMonkey is spelled 'Seamonkey'. Not only
 do Mozilla dis SeaMonkey by hiding it three obscure pages in, but then
 they spell it with a lowercase 'm'.
 
 My we are a select  special project group aren't we?
 
 [1] http://www.findwaldo.com/
 http://waldo.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
 
 
 SeaMonkey has its own Web domain.  The home page in US-English is at
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/.  

I know that, you know that. But if a new/prospective SeaMonkey user goes
to the standard Mozilla page  tries to find SeaMonkey, how easy do you
think it will be?

 There, it is spelled SeaMonkey.
 

Well of course it is. But it is not on the Mozilla site/page.

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Re: [linux - bug 680798] - Open Dirctory (Troubleshooting Information)

[NoOp]

On 08/10/2012 07:50 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Started a new thread so that we don't disturb the UAL thread - second try.
 
 Changing a subject should be done so:
 new subject (was: old subject)
 ;)
 
SeaMonkey Ubuntu 11.04
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0)
Gecko/20120630 Firefox/14.0 SeaMonkey/2.11
No Errors - works.
 
 What did you see after clicking 'Open Directory' for 'Profile Directory'
 on about:support? Can you show a screenshot? I am asking this because it
 always failed for me and i would like to see what should be expected.
 
 Hartmut
 

It properly opens the Nautilus (GNOME) file manager at:
/home/user/.mozilla/seamonkey/default.default

Nautilus is my primary file manager.
https://live.gnome.org/Nautilus


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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

[NoOp]

On 08/10/2012 08:41 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 08/10/2012 07:40 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/10/12 7:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
 Sort of like 'Where's Waldo'[1] ...

 See how many clicks  pages it takes you to find the SeaMonkey pages.

 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
 Nope. Not there.
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/
 Nope. Not there.
 SeaMonkey isn't a Product.
 Hint: You can indeed get to a page with SeaMonkey on it from there...
 see how easy it is for you to find it.

 When you do get to the page, SeaMonkey is spelled 'Seamonkey'. Not only
 do Mozilla dis SeaMonkey by hiding it three obscure pages in, but then
 they spell it with a lowercase 'm'.

 My we are a select  special project group aren't we?

 [1]http://www.findwaldo.com/
 http://waldo.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page


 SeaMonkey has its own Web domain.  The home page in US-English is at
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/.

 I know that, you know that. But if a new/prospective SeaMonkey user goes
 to the standard Mozilla page  tries to find SeaMonkey, how easy do you
 think it will be?

 There, it is spelled SeaMonkey.


 Well of course it is. But it is not on the Mozilla site/page.

 
 Try using Google as your friend.  Enter SeaMonkey in lower case, upper 
 case, or mixed case; only the letter spelling will count, and then maybe 
 not.
 
 Michael G
 

Are you serious?

Never mind, I reckon you are. Thanks for playing anyway.

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Re: [linux - bug 680798] - Open Dirctory (Troubleshooting Information)

[NoOp]

On 08/10/2012 08:44 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
On 08/10/2012 07:50 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 
 What did you see after clicking 'Open Directory' for 'Profile Directory'
 on about:support? Can you show a screenshot? I am asking this because it
 always failed for me and i would like to see what should be expected.

It properly opens the Nautilus (GNOME) file manager at:
/home/user/.mozilla/seamonkey/default.default
 
 Thanks. Then it seems that a desktop environment is required. Sigh.
 
 Hartmut
 

You still want a screenshot? If so I can send to you directly.

What I find interesting is that on Ubuntu 12.04, Firefox works:
Firefox Ubuntu 12.04 32bit

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1
No errors - works.

But SeaMonkey does not:
SeaMonkey Ubuntu 12.04 32bit

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0
Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14a1
Build identifier: 20120810003003
Timestamp: 08/10/2012 03:02:24 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 555

I've just replicated on another machine with 32bit Ubuntu 12.04.

On all Ubuntu 11.04 systems I've tested, both Firefox and SeaMonkey work.





Gary

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Re: [linux - bug 680798] - Open Dirctory (Troubleshooting Information)

[NoOp]

On 08/10/2012 07:50 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Started a new thread so that we don't disturb the UAL thread - second try.
 
 Changing a subject should be done so:
 new subject (was: old subject)
 ;)

Well yeah... and you'd think that I would even spell 'Dirctory' correct. :-)



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Re: [linux - bug 680798] - Open Dirctory (Troubleshooting Information)

[NoOp]

On 08/10/2012 09:13 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
You still want a screenshot? If so I can send to you directly.
 
 No, i do not need it. You have given enough information.
 
What I find interesting is that on Ubuntu 12.04, Firefox works:
Firefox Ubuntu 12.04 32bit

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1
No errors - works.

But SeaMonkey does not:
SeaMonkey Ubuntu 12.04 32bit

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0
Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14a1
Build identifier: 20120810003003
Timestamp: 08/10/2012 03:02:24 PM
Error: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.reveal]
Source File: chrome://global/content/aboutSupport.js
Line: 555

I've just replicated on another machine with 32bit Ubuntu 12.04.

On all Ubuntu 11.04 systems I've tested, both Firefox and SeaMonkey work.
 
 It seems to me that SM relies here on www.freedesktop.org. Meaning that
 for someone like me without a desktop environment it will be difficult.
 
 But of course there is an advantage also. I could point to mc, the
 midnight commander, my favorite file manager. *g*
 
 Hartmut
 

I've also just replicated on Fedora 17.

BTW: I have MC, it's just not set as my default file manager. That said,
the other users with the same issue in the bug report also have desktop
environments. So I'm not sure how you'd actually test without a desktop
environment.



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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

[NoOp]

On 08/10/2012 09:34 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2012 01:28, Ant told the world:
 On 8/10/2012 8:41 PM PT, Michael Gordon typed:
 
 Try using Google as your friend.  Enter SeaMonkey in lower case, upper
 case, or mixed case; only the letter spelling will count, and then maybe
 not.
 
 Bah to search engines. We're talking about Mozilla's web site! Even 
 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/ doesn't list it! Does Mozilla not 
 care about its own multiple suite product? Are they trying to kill it? :(
 
 
 No, they have already killed it -- back in 2005, when the Mozilla
 Application Suite was discontinued. Seamonkey is *not* an official
 Mozilla project, although they do lend us a lot of help and resources.
 

At least previously they had an easy link to 'Projects' on the front
page. Now you have to go through:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
to  https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/
  scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on See even more
awesome software based on Mozilla technologies.
to end up here:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/projects/mozilla-based/

Seems to me that if they do lend a lot of help  resources, they'd be
kind enough to at least make projects visible again. At least we're
not alone...they've also done the same to Lightning, who do not have
their own URL:

https://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/

The other interesting bit, is that if you are on the calendar page, and
click on any 'Projects' link, you end up back here:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/
So they are purposely redirecting any 'projects' url to 'products',
which of course confuses the hell out of anyone trying to find
'projects' on the site. I guess it's their site, their rules.




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Re: SeaMonkey - Mozilla's Where's SeaMonkey challenge

[NoOp]

On 08/10/2012 10:51 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:
 On 12-08-10 10:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
 Sort of like 'Where's Waldo'[1] ...

 See how many clicks  pages it takes you to find the SeaMonkey pages.

 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
 Nope. Not there.
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/
 Nope. Not there.
 SeaMonkey isn't a Product.
 Hint: You can indeed get to a page with SeaMonkey on it from there...
 see how easy it is for you to find it.

 When you do get to the page, SeaMonkey is spelled 'Seamonkey'. Not only
 do Mozilla dis SeaMonkey by hiding it three obscure pages in, but then
 they spell it with a lowercase 'm'.

 My we are a select  special project group aren't we?

 [1] http://www.findwaldo.com/
 http://waldo.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
 
 What Robert told you in 2009 still applies. :)
 http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/f15eb9bbd7ba75bd
 

Actually it does not. At that time Robert wrote:

We are features well on the Our Projects page itself, and we appear
on the front page if the screen is large enough (the first versions had
usnot even showing up at 1280px width, which I got them to correct as
space could fit that easily) and when the user scrolls the projects with
the arrows. That's the most we can do.

Which is considerably different than now.

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Re: spinning cursor

[NoOp]

On 08/12/2012 04:23 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
...
 I would rather have the activity notification present and stop the background
 activity manually when I see something running, as opposed to selecting an
 option which amounts to something undesirable is happening, I won't look.
 Generally in computing ignorance is not bliss.

 After checking this problem a bit, it actually may be a server issue, in that 
 4-5 other servers I visit which have lots of unread articles don't show this 
 behavior. The cursor spin briefly while the network activity indicator is on, 
 then stops without intervention on most other servers other than mozilla 
 servers.
 
 I shall investigate more, but I post now so people can see if this matches 
 their 
 observations.
 

Or simply spend time reading  testing:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414
?

As far as I know, about:config put ui.use_activity_cursor false is
still a workaround, and 727414 is still a very irritating bug.

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Re: Can I assign function keys?

[NoOp]

On 08/15/2012 09:49 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
 Philip TAYLOR wrote:


 Ed Mullen wrote:
 Jim S wrote:
 I would eg like f5 to Reload and f11 Fullscreen - can I?


 That's what those keys already do.

 F5 /may/ perform a reload (certainly the screen flickers), but
 running Seamonkey windowed and pressing F11 does not cause it
 to enter fullscreen mode here :

  Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0)
 Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

 Philip Taylor
 
 Not sure what you mean by windowed.  Both of those functions work fine 
 for me, same build.
 

With lightning installed, F11 opens the 'Today Pane'. F5 does reload the
browser tab/window.

From Help (Browser keyboard shortcuts):
Page Viewing Shortcuts
Command: Full Screen (toggle)
Windows: F11
Mac OS: Cmd+Shift+F
Linux or Unix: F11 (may depend on window manager)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715
Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11
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Re: Can I run Java with Seamonkey 2.11?

[NoOp]

On 08/15/2012 02:26 PM, Craig wrote:
 Craig wrote:
 
 Is there some way to get Java to work with SeaMonkey?
 
 After reading the Release Notes, I can answer my own question:
 
  Linux:
 
  The Java 7 plugin does not work with SeaMonkey (bug 754622).
 
 
 Craig
 

Yep. However it *does* work in Firefox, so it's a SeaMonkey only issue
as far as I can tell. Note: it's helpful to include the full link when
referencing a bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622
[[linux] Sun Java jre1.7.0_04/_05 does not work in SeaMonkey]

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Re: [triage] Bug 783352 - Email rejected by Yahoo as abuse it is written to Sent Folder but is not sent; message has to be recomposed

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On 08/17/2012 09:35 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
 Anyone else experience this problem?
 
 Phil
 

Don't know... what's the link to the bug report?
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Re: Way to delete string of 50 Bookmarks

[NoOp]

On 08/19/2012 03:36 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 Export all of your Bookmarks as an .html file, edit the file.  The
 delete all of your Bookmarks within SM, and then Import Bookmarks from
 the edited file.
 
 Note that using that method you will probably lose some information, 
 namely favicons, tags and visited counts/date. The format that keeps 
 most information is JSON (Tools/Backup), maybe even everything (actually 
 I'm not sure about visited counts/date there).

I was going to add that it might also be worthwhile looking into the
'CheckBookmark' add-on. However when looking to provide detailed
information regarding the add-on, I came across the authors websit:

http://www.andyhalford.com/index.html
[So long Mozilla and thanks for all the fish]
quote
If you are here looking for any of my extensions (SyncPlaces,
SortPlaces, CheckPlaces or SearchPlaces) then I'm sad to inform you that
these are no longer available.

Unfortunately I do not have the time or the motivation to continue to
support these in light of the close-minded, short-sighted and
increasingly inflexible organisation that Mozilla has become.
/quote

What a sad state of affairs...



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Re: SEAMONKEY AND JOINT IMAP AND POP3 ACCOUNTS

[NoOp]

On 08/20/2012 09:49 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
 hawker wrote:
...
 I'm also confused.
 I have both POP and IMAP accounts on this computer and they do just
 great together.  I had two POP accounts then added IMAP. The only real
 changes I had to make was to define the SMTP server for each account and
 change the default account.  Other than that they do all keep separate
 (no one in basket). If you come from Eudora days this separation may
 seem odd, but once you get used to it then the accounts are kept cleaner
 with less filtering shenanigans.

 That said IMAP support on Seamonkey is poor at best. Lots of bugs and
 issues with attachments, refreshing, hung folders, deleting, etc.
 Thunderbird (which I use at home) is no better.

 
 Odd.  I have none of those issues with SM IMAP.
 

You must be lucky.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=imap
and for SeaMonkey:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=SeaMonkeycontent=IMAPcomments=0
And of course SeaMonkey MailNews is built on Thunderbird code:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=Thunderbirdcontent=IMAPcomments=0


I've just added a few IMAP accounts (normally all of my accounts are
POP3), and just today was bitten by this bug:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406929
[message was sent but copying to sent folder failed error after IMAP
timeout]

Account has a total of 5 test messages - all less than 10 lines of plain
text, no HTML, no attachments.

And with the same IMAP, I've just been hit by a bug I've not yet found
an existing report for; first line of received message is missing. Might
be the IMAP server as the 'Sent' on this one shows the line as
sent/intact, but the received (I bcc all messages back to me  another
account (POP3)) does not.


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[Chrome malware] was Re: Google see SM as an incompatible browser ...

[NoOp]

On 08/23/2012 05:38 PM, Rufus wrote:
 MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 23/08/2012 19:09, Philip TAYLOR told the world:

 Ah oui, c'est vrai : j'ai aussi la meme reponse ...

The old Google Groups will be going away soon, but your browser is
 incompatible with the new version.

 But I use the new Google Groups interface almost daily,
 and with no problems whatsoever.  So perhaps Google is
 just spreading a little more FUD in the hopes of getting
 some idiots to adopt its pathetic Chr@me thing.

 Philip Taylor


 I think it's just a bad browser-sniffing script. Most of Google accepts
 Seamonkey as equivalent to Firefox, but Groups has always been the
 unwanted child, receiving even less love than Orkut... they probably
 overlooked this script when updating the other ones.

 
 I get the same result no matter what User Agent I spoof with...I think 
 they're just trying to push Chrome on people and not even sniffing at all...
 

mini-rant
Not to mention they add it as crapware in just about every application
download. I can't even begin to count how many times I've had to
uninstall Chrome  Chrome toolbar from cutomer  relatives systems
simply because of their bundled crapware/malware. Granted that the user
is *supposed* to opt out of the addition, but we all know (at least most
of us here) that most people either ignore unchecking the box, or don't
know enough to do so.

It wouldn't be quite so bad, but Chrome makes itself the system browser
(even in linux) whether you like it or not, installs browser toolbars
that you don't want, and is simply malware IMO. Someone follows a link
from a word processor, Adobe Reader, et al  up it pops in Chrome. They
can't figure out how/why, call and you spend the next 30 minutes
explaining what the issue is and eradicating the POS.

In linux it's even harder to clean out. Chrome embeds itself as the
primary browser, primary mime for http etc., and pollutes the system to
the point that it can be difficult to eradicate if you don't know where
to look. Reminds me of trying to uninstall Norton from Windows.
/mini-rant


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Re: Google see SM as an incompatible browser ...

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On 08/23/2012 03:04 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 I have this result ; Les anciens Google Groupes vont bientôt 
 disparaître, mais votre navigateur est incompatible 
 http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=33864 avec la 
 nouvelle version.
 The old Google groups will dissappear, but your browser is incompatible 
 whith the new version
 when clicking on this newsgroup link:
 
 http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8as_umsgid=k155up$rrj$1...@speranza.aioe.org
...
Not Found

The requested message, k155up$rrj$1...@speranza.aioe.org, could not be found.

You can visit the main page.

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Re: Need some advice

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On 08/23/2012 07:02 AM, Ken wrote:
   I have a 93 year old stepmother living 1000 miles from where I live. 
 She actually does amazingly well on the computer and Internet, but 
 occasionally has problems.  Sometimes it is inadvertently clicking on 
 something, and that changing the way her browser or mail works.  She is 
 using the latest version of SeaMonkey, as am I.  When she encounters a 
 problem, I get her on the phone and while both of us are on the computer 
 try to picture what she is encountering, and see if I can correct her 
 problem.  Listed below is her latest problem and her description of it:
 __
   I have a question.  When I am reading my new emails, the note appears, 
 Compact Now?  I just discovered if I say yes it deletes all the 
 messages that I have read, and I did not want them deleted.
 In fact, I think that may have been why I lost all those emails, because 
 I thought I was supposed to say yes, that it was a good thing to do.  I 
 have not been saying yes, but today I decided that maybe I should 
 compact---whatever that means!!, and that is when I couldn't 
 find the email I had just opened.  Do they go to Trash?
 __

When I compact my folders, the email subect/title area goes blank until
the compacting process is complete. My _guess_ it that this is what she
may be experiencing.


   In her text above she cites those Emails from a previous incident 
 where she lost her messages in ALL folders, based upon her comments.  I 
 intend to call her again tonight and walk her through the settings for 
 her SeaMonkey Email program and see if she has something set that could 
 explain why her messages in her INBOX were moved or deleted when she 
 compacted her folders.  I also intend to ask her if she allowed the 
 compacting to complete before she did something else?

See above.

 
   Does anyone have a possible explanation as to how messages could have 
 been moved or deleted during the compacting of folders??  I feel 
 confident that she did something or has set something that caused it, 
 since I have been using SeaMonkey for years and have never experienced 
 that type of problem.  Thanks.
 

Were I you, I'd set up remote access (VNC, RTP etc) so that you can
actually log into her computer, take control of it, and troubleshoot it
while on the phone with her. I do the same for several relatives 
couldn't imagine trying to do it otherwise - especially with an elderly
person.


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Re: Seamonkey not liked by Intel

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On 08/23/2012 12:24 PM, sean nathan wrote:
 WLS wrote:
 On 08/19/2012 01:20 PM, WLS wrote:
 On 08/19/2012 01:08 PM, Russ Fineman wrote:

 snip


 Where do you change the browser ID. I went into about:config but found
 no parameter with the browser ID. Also the help file found nothing on
 searching browser id.

 A pointer where its at would help?

 Thanks


 Do you just want to disable Firefox compatibility, or make a change, and
 why?

 Disabling Firefox compatibility can be found in Advanced preferences,
 under HTTP Networking  User Agent String. Just remove the check from
 the box.


 You can also install User Agent Switcher, and spoof other browsers, or
 create a UA of your own.

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/user-agent-switcher/

 It will install in SeaMonkey 2.11, just click the + Add to SeaMonkey
 button, then the Install Anyway button.

 There is an option to create your own UA with that extension.

 Use with caution, and backup your profile first.

 
 so, should we be asking what's wrong with the Seamonkey addons page or 
 our build ID string when the Seamonkey addons page tells us an addon 
 isn't available for Firefox 2.11?
 
 its mindboggling to me that our own page can't recognize its own browser...
 
 sean


 User Agent Switcher 0.7.3
by chrispederick

The User Agent Switcher extension adds a menu and a toolbar button to
switch the user agent of a browser.

Add to SeaMonkey
Not available for SeaMonkey 2.11


But it doesn't complain here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/

That said, it's quite possible that the addon developer is simply tired
of trying to support Mozilla (and Mozilla/non-Mozilla Projects -0  like
SeaMonkey') with 'rabid release' schedules.
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Re: Email Fail

[NoOp]

On 08/26/2012 08:27 AM, FDVS wrote:
 Parameters for Yahoo:
 Username is yahoo email address
 IMAP server: imap.mail.yahoo.com  port 993  SSL/TSL  Normal Password
 SMTP SERVER: smpt.mail.yahoo.com  port 465  SSL/TSL  Normal Password
 
 Thank you for posting the info above.
 I am still not able to download mail to Seamonkey unless I log out of 
 the yahoo website and then log back in.
 (I can always load email to the iPad with no logging in or out so I 
 figure it must be a Seamonkey Setting)
 
 I have a Yahoo email (owned by ATT now):

Yahoo email is not owned by ATT. ATT contracted with Yahoo! to provide
email services.

 Here are my settings verbatim except for bracketed items, some 
 settings recently adjusted by the ATT tech:
 
 
 Edit Mail and Newsgroup Account SettingsServer Settings
 Server Name - inbound.att.net  Port: 995
 User Name - entire email address
 Connection Security SSL/TLS
 Authentication Method: Normal Password
 
 Edit Mail and Newsgroup Account SettingsOutgoing Server (SMTP)
 entire email - smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
 Desription: not specified
 Server name: smtp.att.yahoo.com
 Port: 25
 User Name: entire email
 Authentication Method: Password, transmitted insecurely
 Connection Security: None

If you are going to use inbound.att.net, then you should use
outbound.att.net for the smtp server. And the port *must* be 465:

Server name: outbound.att.net
Port: 465
Connection security: SSL/TLS
Authentication method: Normal password
User Name: u...@sbcglobal.net

See:
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?cv=803sid=KB401570title=What+are+my+email+server+settings+%28i.e.%2C+POP+and+SMTP%29%3F#fbid=hDrFthVP5Ni

Note at the bottom of the page:
ATT's POP/SMTP settings have changed to inbound.att.net and
outbound.att.net, but if you are using the old server settings
(pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com), they will continue to work.
You do not have to change them at this time.

I use the old settings (pop.att.yahoo.com  smtp.att.yahoo.com) and they
work just fine (for me). So you might want to give those a try.
Particularly given forum posts like this:

http://forums.att.com/t5/Email-Internet-Security/email-authentication-fails-to-inbound-att-net/td-p/3230177

If they don't make a difference, then you can always easily change back
to inbound.att.net and outbound.att.net.

Regardless, I very much doubt that your issue is related to SeaMonkey
directly. And is more likely related to your ISP settings (or your ISP's
servers).
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Re: Can't Signup for Mozilla Persona

[NoOp]

On 08/26/2012 02:03 AM, Desiree wrote:
 When I go to https://login.persona.org/, even in Safe Mode, on Sea Monkey 
 2.11 on XP Pro, I get a mostly blank page and cannot see the signup button. 
 Sometimes, I can see it just for a second, as the page loads, IF I don't 
 blink and page loading is slower than usual. So, I think something is 
 causing the button to disappear immediately. I have no idea what though.
 
 I have the same problem with Fx 4 and Fx 10 ESR. On IE 8, I can see the 
 signup button, and can click on it, but then the next page where you signup 
 shows only a red, horizontal line across the middle of the page.  Opera 
 12.01 though loves the site and the site works perfectly on it. I see the 
 signup button and on the next page I can signup. (Of course, I haven't 
 signed up as all browsers I use need to work properly at the site).

Works for me.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715
Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11


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Re: Can't Signup for Mozilla Persona

[NoOp]

On 08/27/2012 08:23 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/26/2012 02:03 AM, Desiree wrote:
 When I go to https://login.persona.org/, even in Safe Mode, on Sea Monkey 
 2.11 on XP Pro, I get a mostly blank page and cannot see the signup button. 
 Sometimes, I can see it just for a second, as the page loads, IF I don't 
 blink and page loading is slower than usual. So, I think something is 
 causing the button to disappear immediately. I have no idea what though.
 
 I have the same problem with Fx 4 and Fx 10 ESR. On IE 8, I can see the 
 signup button, and can click on it, but then the next page where you signup 
 shows only a red, horizontal line across the middle of the page.  Opera 
 12.01 though loves the site and the site works perfectly on it. I see the 
 signup button and on the next page I can signup. (Of course, I haven't 
 signed up as all browsers I use need to work properly at the site).
 
 Works for me.
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715
 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11
 
 

Screenshots:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/screenshotfrom201208270.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/screenshotfrom201208270.png/

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Re: Can't Signup for Mozilla Persona

[NoOp]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

With Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11, I see the Sign up
button.  But the cross-bar of the leading H of How it works
is missing, and the text Take the tour almost invisible :

 
https://picasaweb.google.com/Chaa006/ScreenCaptures03?authkey=Gv1sRgCK7Qpuuw3ZOHaw#5780907148643041394

Philip Taylor


Using 2.11 and 2.12b6 linux I have no problem (see my other post with 
screenshot links).


Just switched to Windows  see the same as you (in both 2.11 and 
2.12b6). If I turn off website fonts  use my own it's ok in Windows.





Desiree wrote:


When I go to https://login.persona.org/, even in Safe Mode, on Sea Monkey
2.11 on XP Pro, I get a mostly blank page


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[linux -64 bit] 2.12 mar?

[NoOp]

Will a seamonkey-2.12.complete.mar be built for 64bit linux so that
64bit machines can be updated rather than having to download directly?

Note: crossposted to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
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Re: [linux -64 bit] 2.12 mar?

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On 08/29/2012 10:02 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 Will a seamonkey-2.12.complete.mar be built for 64bit linux so that
 64bit machines can be updated rather than having to download directly?
 
 Note: crossposted to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
 
 
 Unfortunately, not by us for 2.12. Getting updates generated/generating
 for linux64 is on our TODO list, however.
 

Thanks for the info Justin. I'll just use a script file to update all
the 64bit machines.

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Re: [linux -64 bit] 2.12 mar?

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On 08/30/2012 02:34 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 
 
 On 08/29/2012 10:02 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, not by us for 2.12. Getting updates generated/generating
 for linux64 is on our TODO list, however.
 
 What about a native 64-bit implementation for Microsoft Windpows ?
 
 Philip Taylor
 

What about it? See the subject? [linux -64 bit]. Start your own thread
if you want to ask about Windows.

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Re: Email Fail

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On 08/24/2012 08:29 AM, FDVS wrote:
   are you saying that you can get you web mail via the SeaMonkey browser 
 at the yahoo account above, but cannot get that mail to then download 
 into the SeaMonkey Mail  Newsgroup account.

 If that's the case, there used to be an extension for
 Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey Suite that would allow you to download mail
 from gmail/yahoo/hotmail into the SeaMonkey e-mail account, but I
 cannot see it listed at
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/?sort=popularpage=1,
 so, maybe, it was a contributed extension, or something, that hasn't
 been updated or is just not listed.

 
 Yes, Daniel that is correct.
 The mail is visible on the SM webbrowser when I visit the yahoo site but 
 it does not reliably load into the SM mail  newsgroups.
 It does it some of the time.  When it stops (ie 4x per day) I have to go 
 to the same website, log out, then log back in.
 As soon as I do so, the mail starts loading in SM Mail and Newsgroups.
 
 I don't understand what has changed, I have used SM for maybe 2 years 
 for mail and it always loaded just fine.
 Think I need to reinstall SM and reset all my preferences?
 
 The tech checked the Server Name and Port, the Security Settings are 
 SSL/TLS, the Authentication Method is Normal Password.
 

Clear your cache, your cookies and turn off all of your add-ons 
extensions, then try again.

I also have an sbcglobal.net account(s), plus Yahoo! pop and imap
accounts. The only issue I ever have is with the imap accounts.

Edit|Mail  Newsgroup account settings
Account name| Email address: usern...@sbcglobal.net
Outgoing Server SMTP:
Server Settings:
  Server Type: POP Mail Server
  Server Name: pop.att.yahoo.com Port: 995
  Username: usern...@sbcglobal.net
 Security Settings
  Connection security: SSL/TLS
  Authentication Method: Normal password

Outgoing Server (SMTP)
I name the same as the email address that I'm using so that I know which
outgoing server to use:
usern...@sbcglobal.net - smtp.att.yahoo.com
Description: not specified
Server name: smtp.att.yahoo.com
Port: 465
Connection security: SSL/TLS
Authentication method: Normal password
User Name: u...@sbcglobal.net

If that is not working, you might try a new test profile  set up the
account in that to check.
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Re: Norton Issues and SeaMonkey

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On 09/01/2012 11:56 PM, Ant wrote:
 The problem is that those files are very new and unknown. So Norton is 
 supsicious of them. Also, using beta/prereleases doesn't help since they 
 can change again soon. It is good to submit those suspicious files, but 
 note that it will happen again.

Ummm, no:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=freebl3.dll+%2B+norton

https://encrypted.google.com/#hl=enoutput=searchsclient=psy-abq=freebl3.dll+%2B+nortonoq=freebl3.dll+%2B+nortongs_l=hp.3..0i30.7820.11275.0.11578.10.10.0.0.0.0.160.1262.0j10.10.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.Zki4-csTlFApbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.fp=4c5ca94259600d8cbiw=1280bih=733

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nssckbi.dll+%2B+norton+%2B+norton

https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=enq=nsschbi.dll%20%2B%20norton#hl=ensclient=psy-abq=nssckbi.dll+%2B+nortonoq=nssckbi.dll+%2B+nortongs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.73302.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.Ihox-XNiAdkpbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.fp=4c5ca94259600d8cbiw=1280bih=733

Note: I wonder why it is so difficult for you to bottom post...

 
 
 On 9/1/2012 9:08 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:
 
 Hey Guys,

 Just wanted to followup on status here

 So there has been a related thread about SeaMonkey 2.12 issues and
 Norton Antivirus. It has been reported that that specific [SeaMonkey
 2.12] problem is fixed.

 However, I wanted to let you know that JUST NOW, when I let my Beta
 version of SeaMonkey 2.13 update I got the same Norton issue (based on
 a heuristic scan it says) for two of my SeaMonkey DLL's nsschbi.dll and
 freebl3.dll.

 It popped up a small warning in my taskbar and I had to open the Norton
 UI, go to History open up Options and I selected restore and
 exclude to get it back to working.

 I am still awaiting a human response to my Norton e-mail, and will
 likely look up a corp phone number on Wednesday if I haven't heard back
 by EOD tuesday to see how we can address this on their end going forward.

@Justin: Send them the links that I've provided  remind them that this
is not the first time their (cough) anti-virus has done this.
Sample from 2010:
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Norton-produces-false-alarm-after-Firefox-update-1030099.html
FYI, one of the first things that I started doing years ago on my client
Window machines is purge anything Symantec/Norton. None of those clients
have ever been infected by a virus.

@Interges (who's posts I didn't/won't see because I have all things
Google Groups filtered to dev/null): see above. I recommend that in the
future you look to your anti-virus vendor for explanations as to why
they still can't get this right despite several years of false positives.

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Re: GNOME shell service

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On 09/03/2012 08:33 AM, Neil wrote:
 Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 
 Neil wrote:

 Today I checked in the remaining parts of the GNOME shell service. 
 When those of you running Linux update tomorrow you may find that it 
 prompts you to set it as your default browser and mail client. (It 
 can also be set as your default news and RSS client.)

 Nothing yet... :-(
 
 You don't seem to be running Linux. You also don't seem to be running 
 the nightly, which is an important point that got lost in my editing.
 

gnome-shell is an entire desktop:

$ apt-cache show gnome-shell
Package: gnome-shell
Priority: optional
Section: universe/gnome
... snipped
Description-en: graphical shell for the GNOME desktop
 The GNOME Shell redefines user interactions with the GNOME desktop.
 In particular, it offers new paradigms for launching applications,
 accessing documents, and organizing open windows in GNOME. Later, it
 will introduce a new applets eco-system and offer new solutions for
 other desktop features, such as notifications and contacts
 management. The GNOME Shell is intended to replace functions handled
 by the GNOME Panel and by the window manager in previous versions of
 GNOME. The GNOME Shell has rich visual effects enabled by new
 graphical technologies.
...

There is no such service that I'm aware of:

$ ps -eH | grep gnome
 2720 ?00:00:00   gnome-session
 2796 ?00:00:05 gnome-settings-
 2834 ?00:01:00 gnome-panel
 2844 ?00:00:00 polkit-gnome-au
 2850 ?00:00:00 gnome-fallback-
 2918 ?00:00:00 gnome-screensav
 2709 ?00:00:00   gnome-keyring-d
 3064 ?00:00:04   gnome-terminal
 3070 ?00:00:00 gnome-pty-helpe

How about telling us what to look for and what you'd like us to test
(including which version of SeaMonkey)?
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Re: GNOME shell service

[NoOp]

On 09/04/2012 02:50 AM, Neil wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
There is no such service that I'm aware of:
  

 It's a service in the Gecko sense, i.e. a component of SeaMonkey that is 
 created once and lives until shutdown.

Ah. Thanks. Any references that describe this that I can read so I
understand better?

 
How about telling us what to look for and what you'd like us to test
  

 Does you may find that it prompts you to set it as your default browser 
 and mail client not suffice? Anyway, the other place you can look is in 
 Preferences, both in the main Browser pane but also in the Mail  
 Newsgroups pane. Note that the UI recently changed slightly too.

Well, I'm not sure. You'd neglected to mention the nightly build in your
OP, so I didn't know if you'd left anything off regarding testing.
Does it matter if it is the 32bit version, or the 64bit version?

 
(including which version of SeaMonkey)?
  

 I forgot to mention that you needed a nightly build, though I didn't 
 know which version because it hadn't been created yet. (It should have 
 been created by now.)
 

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Re: GNOME shell service

[NoOp]

On 09/04/2012 04:28 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 09/04/2012 02:50 AM, Neil wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
There is no such service that I'm aware of:
  

 It's a service in the Gecko sense, i.e. a component of SeaMonkey that is 
 created once and lives until shutdown.
 
 Ah. Thanks. Any references that describe this that I can read so I
 understand better?
 
 
How about telling us what to look for and what you'd like us to test
  

 Does you may find that it prompts you to set it as your default browser 
 and mail client not suffice? Anyway, the other place you can look is in 
 Preferences, both in the main Browser pane but also in the Mail  
 Newsgroups pane. Note that the UI recently changed slightly too.
 
 Well, I'm not sure. You'd neglected to mention the nightly build in your
 OP, so I didn't know if you'd left anything off regarding testing.
 Does it matter if it is the 32bit version, or the 64bit version?
 
 
(including which version of SeaMonkey)?
  

 I forgot to mention that you needed a nightly build, though I didn't 
 know which version because it hadn't been created yet. (It should have 
 been created by now.)

OK which one?

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/?C=M;O=D

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/?C=M;O=D

Also keep in mind that you are also posting to the SeaMonkey support
group... so not everyone here (mozilla.support.seamonkey) will
understand what you are talking about. Heck, I follow both
mozilla.support.seamonkey and mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey and I'm still
not clear on *exactly* what you are looking for. Before I spend time
downloading a 'nightly' and testing I at the very least need to know if
you are talking about 32bit or 64bit (or if it's bit agnostic), and what
version. I suppose that you could have pointed me to:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/?C=M;O=D

and pointed out that the issue is between  the 02-Sep build and the
update will be the 04-Sep build (is that correct?). So to test, install
the 02-Sep build (32 or 64 or both?), and check for updates  the 04-Sep
build(s) should update... and let you know if  find that it prompts you
to set it as your default browser and mail client.


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Re: GNOME shell service

[NoOp]

NoOp wrote:

On 09/04/2012 04:28 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/04/2012 02:50 AM, Neil wrote:

NoOp wrote:


There is no such service that I'm aware of:



It's a service in the Gecko sense, i.e. a component of SeaMonkey that is
created once and lives until shutdown.


Ah. Thanks. Any references that describe this that I can read so I
understand better?




How about telling us what to look for and what you'd like us to test



Does you may find that it prompts you to set it as your default browser
and mail client not suffice? Anyway, the other place you can look is in
Preferences, both in the main Browser pane but also in the Mail 
Newsgroups pane. Note that the UI recently changed slightly too.


Well, I'm not sure. You'd neglected to mention the nightly build in your
OP, so I didn't know if you'd left anything off regarding testing.
Does it matter if it is the 32bit version, or the 64bit version?




(including which version of SeaMonkey)?



I forgot to mention that you needed a nightly build, though I didn't
know which version because it hadn't been created yet. (It should have
been created by now.)


OK which one?

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/?C=M;O=D

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/?C=M;O=D

Also keep in mind that you are also posting to the SeaMonkey support
group... so not everyone here (mozilla.support.seamonkey) will
understand what you are talking about. Heck, I follow both
mozilla.support.seamonkey and mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey and I'm still
not clear on *exactly* what you are looking for. Before I spend time
downloading a 'nightly' and testing I at the very least need to know if
you are talking about 32bit or 64bit (or if it's bit agnostic), and what
version. I suppose that you could have pointed me to:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/?C=M;O=D

and pointed out that the issue is between  the 02-Sep build and the
update will be the 04-Sep build (is that correct?). So to test, install
the 02-Sep build (32 or 64 or both?), and check for updates  the 04-Sep
build(s) should update... and let you know if  find that it prompts you
to set it as your default browser and mail client.


seamonkey-2.15a1.en-US.linux-i686.checksums 04-Sep-2012 01:33   
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[ ] seamonkey-2.15a1.en-US.linux-i686.tests.zip 04-Sep-2012 01:33   
62M 
[ ] seamonkey-2.15a1.en-US.linux-i686.complete.mar  04-Sep-2012 01:33   
23M 
[ ] seamonkey-2.15a1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2   04-Sep-2012 01:33   
23M 
[ ] seamonkey-2.15a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.checksums   02-Sep-2012 02:33   
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[ ] seamonkey-2.15a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tests.zip   02-Sep-2012 02:33   
62M 
[ ] seamonkey-2.15a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.complete.mar02-Sep-2012
02:33   27M 
[ ] seamonkey-2.15a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 02-Sep-2012 02:33   
27M 



FWIW: I downloaded and installed the Sept 02 nightly 32 bit 2.15a1 bz2, 
installed, and then checked for updates. The resulting Sept 04 update 
does indeed ask to set SeaMonkey as the default browser and mail client.



SeaMonkey (Sept 02 build)
  version 2.15a1
You are currently on the nightly update channel.
See a list of contributors to the Mozilla Project.
Read the licensing information for this product.
Read the release notes for this version.
See the build configuration used for this version.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/18.0 
Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15a1

Build identifier: 20120902003005

SeaMonkey(Sept 03 build)
  version 2.15a1
You are currently on the nightly update channel.
See a list of contributors to the Mozilla Project.
Read the licensing information for this product.
Read the release notes for this version.
See the build configuration used for this version.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/18.0 
Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15a1

Build identifier: 20120904003004Screenshot is here:

Screenshot is here:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8122/screenshotfrom201209041.png

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Re: GNOME shell service

[NoOp]

On 09/04/2012 06:22 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
 I suppose that you could have pointed me to:

 https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/?C=M;O=D

 and pointed out that the issue is between  the 02-Sep build and the
 update will be the 04-Sep build (is that correct?).
 
 I have first seen it on my private build of SM x86_64 at
 
 hafi@i5_64 ~ $ 2pdt 1209030002
 2012-09-02 15:02:00 PDT
 
 and it was not existent at
 
 hafi@i5_64 ~ $ 2pdt 1209020641
 2012-09-01 21:41:00 PDT
 
 So each nightly built after 2012-09-02 15:02:00 PDT should show
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm120903.png. 

Oh Oh... you don't appear to be using linux :-)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/2012090502
SeaMonkey/2.15a1-h

As long as '[x]
 Always perform...' remains checked. :)
 
 Hartmut
 

Here is something of interest; I just performed the same experiment on a
separate machine (same setup: Ubuntu 12.04 running in a VMWare Player as
guest) - installing 02 Sept and updating with 04 Sept. In this instance
(on this machine) I didn't receive the prompt.

The experiment that I performed on the other machine where I received
the prompt (see my other post) was pretty much a virgin install with
only news.mozilla.org as an account. On this machine (the one where the
prompt didn't occur) is pretty much a SeaMonkey mirror of my regular SM
2.12 on my daily machine.

On this machine: Preferences|Browser|Set Default Browser - is greyed out.
On the machine with the prompt: Preferences|Browser|Set Default Browser
- is available  if I click it sets the 'SeaMonkey has been set as your
default browser'. Of course that is complete nonsense as my system
browser is still showing Firefox as the default browser. Looks to me
like the issue might be a mix of Windows code in the Linux build?

Note to Neil: is there a bug report that we can see to add to? Or should
we just continue on with Does you may find that it prompts you to set
it as your default browser and mail client not suffice??
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Re: Google Maps GL

[NoOp]

On 09/07/2012 04:46 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 9/7/12 3:30 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:
 On 12-09-07 9:34 AM, hawker wrote:
 I see Google has a new map sytem called MapsGL.

 When I try to use it in Seamonky 2.11 it says my browser is not
 supported.  Under supported browsers it lists Firefox going back a ways
 (version 8) so Seamonkey should work as well.

 I understand Seamonkey now advertises itself as Firefox, so can anyone
 tell me why this is not working and what to do to make it work?
 
 MapsGL uses WebGL, which requires support from both the browser and your 
 graphics card.
 WebGL support was added in SeaMonkey 2.1.
 We can get more info about your graphics card and whether or it supports 
 WebGL if you post your Troubleshooting Information. Go to 
 Help--Troubleshooting_Information, then click [Copy all to Clipboard]. 
 Open a reply to this post, and go to Edit--Paste to paste the info from 
 your Troubleshooting Information page.
 
 
 From US-CERT at
 http://www.us-cert.gov/current/archive/2011/05/19/archive.html#web_users_warned_to_turn:
 
 WebGL Security Risks added May 11, 2011 at 01:50 pm | updated May 16,
 2011 at 10:20 am
 
 US-CERT is aware of reports indicating that WebGL contains multiple
 significant security issues. The impact of these issues includes
 denial of service, and cross-domain attacks. WebGL is a new web
 standard that is enabled by default in Firefox 4 and Google Chrome
 and is included in Safari.
 
 US-CERT encourages users and administrators to review the Context
 report and update their systems as necessary to help mitigate the risks.
 [Context report is at http://www.contextis.com/resources/blog/webgl/]
 
 Thus, I disabled WebGL.  I have seen no notice of this vulnerability
 being fixed.
 

You might want to ad this url:
https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2012/mfsa2012-62.html
Title: WebGL use-after-free and memory corruption
Impact: Critical
Announced: August 28, 2012
Reporter: miaubiz
Products: Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey

Fixed in: Firefox 15
  Firefox ESR 10.0.7
  Thunderbird 15
  Thunderbird ESR 10.0.7
  SeaMonkey 2.12

Perhaps 'hawker' will consider upgrading to SeaMonkey 2.12 from 2.11 -
at least for the WebGL security fix?



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Re: Default 30 days history for SM v2.12's web browser... Not automatically deleting the old history entries?

[NoOp]

On 09/07/2012 03:39 AM, Ant wrote:
 Hello again.
 
 I noticed my SM v2.12's oldest history entries are from 8/5/2012 7:46 AM 
 PDT and it is currently 9/7/2012 3:39 AM PDT. It has been already 33 
 days. Shouldn't my SM already deleted three days by now (8/8/2012 as the 
 oldest entries)? Or did something break like from manually copying 
 places.sqlite between computers and using PrefBar's ExpireHistory button 
 (28 instead of 30 days)? I also tried exiting and relaunching SM to see 
 if it would work. Nope. :(

Is something wrong with the news server? I thought that you had these
questions sorted out previously - and this appears to be a repost. What
specifically from those threads didn't answer your initial question?


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Re: [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[NoOp]

On 09/07/2012 02:02 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I like to use Evince to read PDF files. If I select it (/usr/bin/evince) 
 as helper app, it works.
 
 Now, the Evince window doesn't always open at an optimal size (*). So I 
 wrote a script (/home/lucas/bin/evince-patched) to automatically launch 
 then resize it. The script works like a charm when called from a terminal. 
 But SM refuses to use it: if I set it as helper app, SM launches Acrobat !
 
 Here's the script:
 ---
 #!/bin/bash
 /usr/bin/evince $@ 
 pid=$!
 until wmctrl -lp |grep -q $pid
 do sleep 1s
 done
 winid=$(wmctrl -lp | grep $pid | cut -d' ' -f1)
 wmctrl -ir $winid -b add,maximized_vert
 wmctrl -ir $winid -e 0,-1,-1,981,-1
 ---
 
 The permissions look right:
 ls -ld /home
 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 août 14  2011 /home
 ls -ld /home/lucas
 drwxr-xr-x 93 lucas users 12288 sept.  7 10:54 /home/lucas
 ls -ld /home/lucas/bin
 drwxr-xr-x 2 lucas users 4096 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin
 ls -ld /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 lucas users 331 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched

You need to change the permissions. This works for me (although the
window size is not ideal (for my monitor):

$ ls -al evince-patched
-rwxrwxr-- 1snipped 214 Sep  7 18:06 evince-patched

Test link:
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf
Clicking on that link evokes the shell 'evince-patched' and presents the
pdf document in evince.

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Re: [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[NoOp]

On 09/07/2012 06:19 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 09/07/2012 02:02 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
...
 The permissions look right:
 ls -ld /home
 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 août 14  2011 /home
 ls -ld /home/lucas
 drwxr-xr-x 93 lucas users 12288 sept.  7 10:54 /home/lucas
 ls -ld /home/lucas/bin
 drwxr-xr-x 2 lucas users 4096 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin
 ls -ld /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 lucas users 331 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched
 
 You need to change the permissions. This works for me (although the
 window size is not ideal (for my monitor):
 
 $ ls -al evince-patched
 -rwxrwxr-- 1snipped 214 Sep  7 18:06 evince-patched
 
 Test link:
 https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf
 Clicking on that link evokes the shell 'evince-patched' and presents the
 pdf document in evince.
 

Now that I've tested this, can someone remind me where the Helper file
is so that I can purge 'evince-patched' from Helper Applications?

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Re: [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[NoOp]

On 09/07/2012 06:55 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Now that I've tested this, can someone remind me where the Helper file
is so that I can purge 'evince-patched' from Helper Applications?
 
 Edit mimeTypes.rdf in the profile. Or rename it, if you are lazy. ;)
 
 Hartmut
 

Thanks Hartmut.

Gary

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Re: Google Maps GL

[NoOp]

On 09/07/2012 08:23 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 9/7/12 5:42 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 09/07/2012 04:46 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 9/7/12 3:30 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:
 On 12-09-07 9:34 AM, hawker wrote:
 I see Google has a new map sytem called MapsGL.

 When I try to use it in Seamonky 2.11 it says my browser is not
 supported.  Under supported browsers it lists Firefox going back a ways
 (version 8) so Seamonkey should work as well.

 I understand Seamonkey now advertises itself as Firefox, so can anyone
 tell me why this is not working and what to do to make it work?

 MapsGL uses WebGL, which requires support from both the browser and your 
 graphics card.
 WebGL support was added in SeaMonkey 2.1.
 We can get more info about your graphics card and whether or it supports 
 WebGL if you post your Troubleshooting Information. Go to 
 Help--Troubleshooting_Information, then click [Copy all to Clipboard]. 
 Open a reply to this post, and go to Edit--Paste to paste the info from 
 your Troubleshooting Information page.


 From US-CERT at
 http://www.us-cert.gov/current/archive/2011/05/19/archive.html#web_users_warned_to_turn:

 WebGL Security Risks added May 11, 2011 at 01:50 pm | updated May 16,
 2011 at 10:20 am

 US-CERT is aware of reports indicating that WebGL contains multiple
 significant security issues. The impact of these issues includes
 denial of service, and cross-domain attacks. WebGL is a new web
 standard that is enabled by default in Firefox 4 and Google Chrome
 and is included in Safari.

 US-CERT encourages users and administrators to review the Context
 report and update their systems as necessary to help mitigate the risks.
 [Context report is at http://www.contextis.com/resources/blog/webgl/]

 Thus, I disabled WebGL.  I have seen no notice of this vulnerability
 being fixed.

 
 You might want to ad this url:
 https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2012/mfsa2012-62.html
 Title: WebGL use-after-free and memory corruption
 Impact: Critical
 Announced: August 28, 2012
 Reporter: miaubiz
 Products: Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey
 
 Fixed in: Firefox 15
   Firefox ESR 10.0.7
   Thunderbird 15
   Thunderbird ESR 10.0.7
   SeaMonkey 2.12
 
 Perhaps 'hawker' will consider upgrading to SeaMonkey 2.12 from 2.11 -
 at least for the WebGL security fix?
 
 
 
 
 Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2012-62 is not the same as the
 vulnerability cited by US-CERT.

Not it's not. I was simply pointing you to a recent announcement
regarding webGL by Mozilla and the corresponding CVE's.

 
 Advisory 2012-62 says:
 The first issue is a use-after-free when WebGL shaders are called
 after being destroyed. The second issue exposes a problem with Mesa
 drivers on Linux, leading to a potentially exploitable crash.  
 It refers to two CVEs (CVE-2012-3967 and CVE-2012-3968) that were both
 submitted to the Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures List within the
 past two months.
 
 The US-CERT vulnerability was reported more than a year ago and deals
 with denial of service through crashes and cross-domain attacks.  These
 appear to be CVE-2011-2366 (fixed with bug #655987) and
 CVE-2011-2367 (fixed with bug #656752).
 
 Despite the fix of the vulnerabilities noted by US-CERT and those noted
 in Advisory 2012-62, there remain 214 open WebGL bugs, 29 of them
 Critical and 7 of them Major.  Thus, I will continue to disable WebGL.
 

I hope that you realize that CVE's et al are sponsored by the same
source (US Homeland Security).
http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/search-results?query=mozillasearch_type=allcves=on
http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/search-results?query=webglsearch_type=allcves=on

Further, I wasn't recommending that you keep WebGL enabled. I only have
two machines that are 'new' enough to run it  those are sandboxed for
any testing anyway.


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Re: Update Failed

[NoOp]

On 09/08/2012 02:41 AM, Daniel wrote:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0) 
 Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

Linux i686 on x86_64
There is no mar built for 64bit (see my [linux-64bit] 2.12 mar?
thread). You'll need to download it and install:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.12
Contributed builds (other platforms)

These are unofficial builds and may be configured differently than the
official SeaMonkey builds. Please read their readme files for further
information.

Linux/x86_64
Linux/x86_64 .tar.bz2 (readme) (MD5 sum) (SHA1 sum)

I run mine in a single home folder /home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey. So
I copy the Linux/x86_64.tar.bz2 to /home/user/seamonkey/ move the
former '/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey' to
'/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey2.11', extract the Linux/x86_64.tar.bz2
and it extract to as the new  improved /home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey.

 
 Last night, I clicked Help-Check for updates and updated my Win7 
 SeaMonkey installation, but tonight, when I've tried to update my Linux 
 version (see above), I getting told the Update Failed and that it Failed 
 (unknown reason). Then the screen says I can download SM manually from 
 the web site.
 
 Anybody else getting this, or know how I can fix whatever problem I've got!!
 

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Re: Update Failed

[NoOp]

On 09/09/2012 02:58 AM, Daniel wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 09/08/2012 02:41 AM, Daniel wrote:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0)
 Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

 Linux i686 on x86_64
 There is no mar built for 64bit (see my [linux-64bit] 2.12 mar?
 thread). You'll need to download it and install:

 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.12
 Contributed builds (other platforms)

 These are unofficial builds and may be configured differently than the
 official SeaMonkey builds. Please read their readme files for further
 information.

 Linux/x86_64
  Linux/x86_64 .tar.bz2 (readme) (MD5 sum) (SHA1 sum)

 I run mine in a single home folder /home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey. So
 I copy the Linux/x86_64.tar.bz2 to /home/user/seamonkey/ move the
 former '/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey' to
 '/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey2.11', extract the Linux/x86_64.tar.bz2
 and it extract to as the new  improved /home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey.

 
 So, hang on, NoOp, are you suggesting that after I installed the full 
 seamonkey-2.3.3.tar.bz2, any updates that I (automatically or manually) 
 received were of the Linux i686 on x86_64 variety??
 

I've no clue what you are referring to regarding 2.3.3.x. If you have
questions regarding 2.3.x, start a new thread.

I responded to your question regarding:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0)
 Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11
I also pointed you to a thread regarding the update issue from 2.11.x to
2.12.x 64bit.

So hang on Daniel, are you suggesting that you didn't read  comprehend
what I wrote? Are you also suggesting that you didn't bother to read the
thread I pointed you to? Here let me point it out again:

Linux i686 on x86_64
There is no mar built for 64bit (see my [linux-64bit] 2.12 mar?

Stop wasting everyone's time by asking nonsensical 'are you suggesting'
when I clearly didn't. RTFT.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.12.1 - Any Need To Upgrade JAVA ?

[NoOp]

On 09/11/2012 09:06 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
...
 
 If you need Java, yes you need to update, if you don't need Java, I 
 instead recommend you just disable it.

Unless you use linux... in that case Java doesn't work:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622
[[linux] Sun Java jre1.7.0_04/_05 does not work in SeaMonkey]
Works in Firefox, does not work in SeaMonkey.
...

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Re: [linux -64 bit] 2.12 mar?

[NoOp]

On 08/30/2012 04:34 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
 Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 Will a seamonkey-2.12.complete.mar be built for 64bit linux so that
 64bit machines can be updated rather than having to download directly?

 Note: crossposted to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey


 Unfortunately, not by us for 2.12. Getting updates generated/generating
 for linux64 is on our TODO list, however.
 
 Is there a timeframe on this?  I am running Linux Mint x64 here and had 
 been depending upon Joe Lesko's PPA for updates, but that has not been 
 updated since 8 weeks ago now.  I have not considered either ubuntuzilla 
 or the contributed build because of the note These are unofficial 
 builds and may be configured differently than the official SeaMonkey 
 builds. Please read their readme files for further information.
 
 Dave
 

Dave,

I've not spoken with Joe in awhile  I thought that he hadn't planned to
update his ppa. However I noticed that he did update the dev ppa to 2.12:

https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev

I ran it (64  32bit) for a day  didn't run into any issues, so you
might want to give it a try.

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Re: [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[NoOp]

On 09/10/2012 03:16 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 7 septembre 2012, NoOp a écrit :
 
 You need to change the permissions. This works for me (although the
 window size is not ideal (for my monitor):

 $ ls -al evince-patched
 -rwxrwxr-- 1snipped 214 Sep  7 18:06 evince-patched
 
 Thanks, but that doesn't work for me (plus I wouldn't want to set +w for 
 the group). Then I also tried 700, 754, 770, 777, 775, 744, to no avail.
 

OK. I reset to your original (755):
  ls -ld /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched
-rwxr-xr-x 1 lucas users 331 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched

$ ls -al evince-patched
-rwxr-xr-x 1 .. 214 Sep 12 12:46 evince-patched
and it works for me from SeaMonkey 2.12.01. Couldn't figure out why I
wasn't getting a large window on the first try... forgot that I didn't
have wmctrl installed on this machine. After installing wmctrl I now get
the large window.


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Re: [Linux] Browser refuses to use my script as helper app

[NoOp]

On 09/12/2012 01:02 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 09/10/2012 03:16 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 7 septembre 2012, NoOp a écrit :
 
 You need to change the permissions. This works for me (although the
 window size is not ideal (for my monitor):

 $ ls -al evince-patched
 -rwxrwxr-- 1snipped 214 Sep  7 18:06 evince-patched
 
 Thanks, but that doesn't work for me (plus I wouldn't want to set +w for 
 the group). Then I also tried 700, 754, 770, 777, 775, 744, to no avail.
 
 
 OK. I reset to your original (755):
  ls -ld /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 lucas users 331 sept.  7 09:48 /home/lucas/bin/evince-patched
 
 $ ls -al evince-patched
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 .. 214 Sep 12 12:46 evince-patched
 and it works for me from SeaMonkey 2.12.01. Couldn't figure out why I
 wasn't getting a large window on the first try... forgot that I didn't
 have wmctrl installed on this machine. After installing wmctrl I now get
 the large window.
 
 

Added note: I prefer epdfview -- opens in a full window  automatically
shows the index column if the pdf is indexed.

Description-en: Lightweight pdf viewer based on poppler libs
 The aim of ePDFView is to make a simple PDF document viewer, in the
lines of
 Evince but without using the GNOME libraries.
Homepage: http://trac.emma-soft.com/epdfview/

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Re: Y U NO MAKE 64bit Windows build?

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On 09/12/2012 07:51 AM, Rex wrote:
 I recently switched to 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate. While I was able to 
 replace Firefox with Waterfox and use my old profile as before, the only 
 reference to 64bit Seamonkey I can find is this one -
 
 http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/SeaMonkey:Download
 
 This looks like the initial 2.0 build from 2009 and hasn't been updated 
 since.
 
 Are there any plans to provide official 64bit builds any time soon?
 

No. Check the archives regarding this.


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Re: Update Failed

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On 09/12/2012 07:50 AM, Daniel wrote:
 Daniel wrote:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0)
 Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

 Last night, I clicked Help-Check for updates and updated my Win7
 SeaMonkey installation, but tonight, when I've tried to update my Linux
 version (see above), I getting told the Update Failed and that it Failed
 (unknown reason). Then the screen says I can download SM manually from
 the web site.

 Anybody else getting this, or know how I can fix whatever problem I've
 got!!

 
 After two days of trying, and failing to get an update, I've now 
 downloaded the 64bit update. Not sure if it is the straight x86_64 or 
 the i685 on x64_86 version (suspect the later) and it should be 
 installed when I boot up again later today!!
 
 If the update fails, I've also downloaded the full version tonight, as well!
 

Daniel,

This has been explained you you previously, but I'll try to explain one
more time. Apologies as I should have noticed earlier.

You are running the 32bit version of SeaMonkey on a 64bit linux. Just to
show you I'm posting this from the same:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0)
Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12

about:buildconfig
Build Machine

sea-vm-linux32-1
Source

Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/a347058c607a
Build platform
target
i686-pc-linux-gnu

Now I'll save this as a 'draft', enable the 64bit version and finish the
post.

OK, now back on SeaMonkey 2.12 from a 64bit build:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826
Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12

about:buildconfig
Build Machine

cb-seamonkey-linux64-01
Source

Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/rev/450143d2d810
Build platform
target
x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

See the difference?

Now, you can stay on the 32bit version - it won't hurt  will work - or
you can use the 64bit version. To be honest, I've not tested the 32bit
on a 64bit machine to compare the differences. So I can't tell you which
is better. However you *need* to understand the version that you are
running is 32bit, it is *not* the 64bit version.

If you want to run the 64bit version you will need to use the
contributed build, and you will not, repeat *not* get any updates
(notifications or otherwise).

HTH
Gary

OT: previously Barry Edwin Gilmour (the same Fairfax photographer that
recorded Neil Armstrong  Buzz Aldrin moon landings on film) used to
build 64bit linux directly. Unfortunately I've not seen a post by Barry
in seamonkey dev since around Sept 2011... I hope he's OK.
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Re: Update Failed

[NoOp]

On 09/12/2012 07:26 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 OT: previously Barry Edwin Gilmour (the same Fairfax photographer that
 recorded Neil Armstrong  Buzz Aldrin moon landings on film) used to
 build 64bit linux directly. Unfortunately I've not seen a post by Barry
 in seamonkey dev since around Sept 2011... I hope he's OK.
 Correction Gary!
 Just to update the group ~ I'm nothing special...
 I am not the same Fairfax photographer that
 recorded Neil Armstrong  Buzz Aldrin moon landings on film.

Ah... Well now all of your posts are suspect  I will wonder if we
really landed on the moon :-)
Sorry about that but glad to hear that you are well. :-)

 Also, It's been a while since I built 64bit nightlies from source.
 
 I now simply download the 64bit Linux nightly trunk build from
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
 or
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux64/
 which I use in my day to day environment, as do many others in this group.
 I just haven't had anything worthwhile to contribute lately. HTH. Barry.
 

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Re: Update Failed

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On 09/13/2012 07:12 AM, Daniel wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 Now, you can stay on the 32bit version - it won't hurt  will work - or
 you can use the 64bit version. To be honest, I've not tested the 32bit
 on a 64bit machine to compare the differences. So I can't tell you which
 is better. However you *need* to understand the version that you are
 running is 32bit, it is *not* the 64bit version.

 If you want to run the 64bit version you will need to use the
 contributed build, and you will not, repeat *not* get any updates
 (notifications or otherwise).

 HTH
 Gary
...
 
 NoOp, sometimes I am a bit thick, so thanks for sticking with me!

No problem  happy to help if I can.

 
 Last night, as well as doing the update for what would seem to be my 
 32bit Linux SM, as I said above I've also downloaded the 
 seamonkey-2.12.1,en-us.linux-x86_64-tar-bz2 file, so if I get time (and 
 knowledge) over the week-end, I'll delete the 32bit version and install 
 the 64bit version. Make that install the 64bit version *then* delete 
 the 32bit version.

Actually, you can do as I do  just rename the seamonkey folder to
'seamonkey32'  then extract the 64bit bz2. That will create a new
seamonkey folder  you just run as you did the other. If it gives you
problems, then name that folder to seamonkey64 and rename seamonkey32 to
just plain seamonkey. Restart  you're back on the 32bit.

 
 NoOp, is the Linux i686 on x64_86 version the equivalent of the 
 Windows WOW64 version, i.e. 32bit version made to work on 64bit systems??

No. It's an actual 64bit version.
...
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[Linux] APT protocol registration: was Re: Another Ubuntu question (sorry)

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On 09/23/2012 11:51 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 Cruz, Jaime wrote:
...
 What it apparently wants to do is launch the Ubuntu Software Center to
 do the install.  I did the changes suggested by WaltS in an earlier
 thread and now it's prompting me for which application it should launch.
 Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to tell it to launch the Software
 Center.

 Chrome was able to figure it out, but I can't seem to see the settings
 it is using... no way to list Helper Apps that I can see in that browser.

 
 FOUND IT!!  /usr/bin/software-center
 
 It's all working now.  Thanks for the hints and assistance.
 

I see you got it working. However if you change to another profile you
will need to do it all again. An easy way to get around this is to add
the registration in your user.js file in your profile directory.

First install apturl:

$ sudo apt-get install apturl

Add the following to your existing user.js if you already have one, if
not open gedit and paste, then save as user.js in your seamonkey profile
directory (~/.mozilla/seamonkey/profile/user.js:

code
# register protocol:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol#Firefox_3.5_and_above
# network.protocol-handler.expose.foo - Value - false
# network.protocol-handler.external.foo - Value - true
# network.protocol-handler.app.foo - Value - /path/to/app

pref(network.protocol-handler.expose.apt,false);
pref(network.protocol-handler.external.apt,true);
pref(network.protocol-handler.app.apt,/usr/bin/apturl);
/code

Note: the first line is all one line  the first 4 lines are comments so
that you'll remember where you got the information from  the format.

You can do the same for your non-ubuntu firefox profile(s).

Remove any 'apt' that you hand installed in about:config (right click
and click reset). Restart SeaMonkey/Firefox with the user.js in the
profile directory. When you click on an apturl you'll be prompted for
the application. Click 'browse' and 'File System' and then to /usr/bin
scroll down  click on 'apturl' (full path is as above: /usr/bin/apturl.
Tick the box to 'always use this application'  you're good to go.

That way you won't need to mess with the Ubuntu software center  when
you click on an apt:package you'll get prompted for your password 
the install will proceed.

Note: the Ubuntu packaged Firefox  SeaMonkey include a extension called
'ubufox'. That extension (which is the first one I always disable) adds
the 'apt' protocol settngs by default.

You might also find this of interest (recommended by the Ubuntu apt wiki
- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptUrl):

http://appnr.com/
 be sure to see:
   http://blog.appnr.com/about/ http://blog.appnr.com/privacy/

I can't vouch for the site - I just found it from the wiki. I did test
by installing Amarok (using SeaMonkey of course)  it worked fine; goes
to the ubuntu repository, downloads  installs if from there.

As with all applications of this type, use the apt protocol  apturl at
your own risk. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apturl/+bugs

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Re: Why does the LA Times home page kill my SeaMonkey?

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On 09/25/2012 06:07 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 WaltS:
 
I have Java disabled in Firefox, and didn't manually create the symbolic 
link to the plugin for SeaMonkey, and the page loads just fine in both. 
 
 In my SM Java was disabled manually but got enabled automatically after
 upgrading Java on my Gentoo. I am not very pleased about that.
 
No problems browsing the site at all.
 
 I can see no problem on latimes.com with Java disabled.
 
 Hartmut
 

I can replicate the freeze with java turned on:

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-wells-online-outage-20120925,0,1876507.story

When I visit that page with java:

$ java -version
java version 1.7.0_07
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.3.2) (7u7-2.3.2a-0ubuntu0.12.04.1)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode, sharing)

turned on, SeaMonkey will freeze. Doesn't use any cpu, just freezes 
locks up completely.
o Kill the process, start an strace  restart. Turn off java before I
restore the session  the page loads fine  no SM freeze.
o Kill the process, start an strace  restart. Turn on java before I
restore the session  SM freezes.

Rinse... repeat. Same each time. Note: I'm typing this from a restored
session where I've turned java off.

If we could get
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622
[[Bug 754622] [linux] Oracle/Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 and later does not
work in SeaMonkey[
sorted out I chould test using standard (non-openjdk) java.





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Re: Why does the LA Times home page kill my SeaMonkey?

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On 09/26/2012 06:07 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
I can replicate the freeze with java turned on:

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-wells-online-outage-20120925,0,1876507.story
 
 It is not so easy for me.
 
When I visit that page with java:

$ java -version
java version 1.7.0_07
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.3.2) (7u7-2.3.2a-0ubuntu0.12.04.1)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode, sharing)

turned on, SeaMonkey will freeze. Doesn't use any cpu, just freezes 
locks up completely.
o Kill the process, start an strace  restart. Turn off java before I
restore the session  the page loads fine  no SM freeze.
o Kill the process, start an strace  restart. Turn on java before I
restore the session  SM freezes.

Rinse... repeat. Same each time. Note: I'm typing this from a restored
session where I've turned java off.
 
 I was reminded on freezes belonging to Java by testing the problem of
 this thread. But not reliable. I suspect it has to do with visiting
 http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp and verifying my Java
 version before visiting latimes.com.
 
 I have now tested your link to latimes several times with Java enabled
 and without SM freezing.
 
If we could get
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622
[[Bug 754622] [linux] Oracle/Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 and later does not
work in SeaMonkey[
sorted out I chould test using standard (non-openjdk) java.
 
 hafi@i5_64 ~ $ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_35
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_35-b10)
 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.10-b01, mixed mode)
 
 Well below 1.7.0_04 :-D

Out of curiosity I reverted to openJDK 1.6:
$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.4) (6b24-1.11.4-1ubuntu0.12.04.1)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)

And that freezes as well. I'll test next with the same version as you
(sun/oracle 1.6.x direct minus openjdk)  see if I get the same. Thanks
for checking Hartmut.

Gary

 
 I have encountered freezes caused by Java sporadic but not reliable in
 the past. That is the reason why am not pleased about the automatically
 enabling of Java by upgrading Java on my Gentoo.
 
 Hartmut
 

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Re: Why does the LA Times home page kill my SeaMonkey?

[NoOp]

On 09/27/2012 06:07 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 09/26/2012 06:07 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
...
If we could get
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622
[[Bug 754622] [linux] Oracle/Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 and later does not
work in SeaMonkey[
sorted out I chould test using standard (non-openjdk) java.
 
 hafi@i5_64 ~ $ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_35
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_35-b10)
 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.10-b01, mixed mode)
 
 Well below 1.7.0_04 :-D
 
 Out of curiosity I reverted to openJDK 1.6:
 $ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_24
 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.4) (6b24-1.11.4-1ubuntu0.12.04.1)
 OpenJDK Client VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
 
 And that freezes as well. I'll test next with the same version as you
 (sun/oracle 1.6.x direct minus openjdk)  see if I get the same. Thanks
 for checking Hartmut.
 
 Gary

I forgot to add that there were *no* issues with the page with Firefox
15 and Java:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0.1

$ java -version
java version 1.7.0_07
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.3.2) (7u7-2.3.2a-0ubuntu0.12.04.1)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode, sharing)

$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.4) (6b24-1.11.4-1ubuntu0.12.04.1)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)

or

Java(TM) Plug-in 1.7.0_07
File: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
Version:
Java plug-in for NPAPI-based browsers.
$ java -version
java version 1.7.0_07
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_07-b10)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 23.3-b01, mixed mode)


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Re: [Linux] APT protocol registration: was Re: Another Ubuntu question (sorry)

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On 09/28/2012 03:30 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 Paddlefoot wrote:
 NoOp wrote:

 snip

 I find this whole thing chillingly unsecure.

 
 I agree.  I feel a little more secure with it launching the Software 
 Center where I can see what it is I'm installing and decide to go 
 through with it or not.
 

I can't say that I disagree without digging into the code and looking at
wireshark. But I reckon if there were/are any serious security issues:
1) Ubuntu probablyly wouldn't allow it in their repositories:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=apturl
and 2) such issue would show up on:
  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apturl/+bugs
   http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/apturl.html

As for the Software Center... I prefer a terminal or synaptic. Anyway,
I suppose  it's not mine to judge: I just provided you with the
information you requested. It's up to you to determine if you want to
use it.





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Re: Video Problem

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On 10/04/2012 03:02 PM, Bernard Mercier wrote:
 LR a exposé le 4/10/2012 :
 I think I'm having problems with Seamonkey and Flash.
 
 For example, when I try to play this
 http://www.fark.com/vidplayer/7364212 using Seamonkey the video
 freezes
 and does other strange things.  If I click Reload the problem
 sometimes
 reoccurs. If I use the Flash replay button it seems to play ok.
 
 I've tried playing the video using IE and no problem.
 
 I seen problems with other videos.  I think one may have crashed Flash
 recently, but I don't think I can duplicate that.
 
 Flash, 11,4,402,265
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909
 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
 Build identifier: 20120909051100
 I'm running XP.
 
 Suggestions?
 
 TIA
 
 LR
 SeaMonkey 2.12.1 on Linux.
 The video plays but very jerky.
 Nice video btw.
 

Works for me:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909
Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
Build identifier: 20120909051705
Shockwave Flash
File: /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
Version:
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
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Re: SOLVED - Re: Can't Log In to www.wherever.tv with SM 2.12.1

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On 10/08/2012 04:47 AM, Daniel wrote:
...
 Beat me by about two weeks, Arnie!!
 
 I was going to tell you of my situation with Amazon.ca of several years 
 ago. I'd been through, selected all the stuff I wanted and wanted to 
 pay..but the link to the cash register (Pay Now or whatever!) was 
 to a different site (amazon.com maybe) and, as in prefs, I had selected 
 to not show links from other locations (or similar wording), I was 
 unable to complete my transaction.
 
 Someone here-abouts, or maybe on the old secnews server, alerted me to 
 this setting!
 
 Just had a quick look at prefs, but could not find the setting!!
 

Look harder, or F1(Help) and enter 'images' in the search box :-)

Preferences|Privacy  Security|Image Acceptance Policy
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Re: Multiple Chatzilla screens??

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On 10/08/2012 07:26 AM, Daniel wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 On 08/10/2012 18:32, Daniel wrote:

 What I want to know, now, Philip, is how do I set either screen up to
 address irc.albury.net.au??

 Any ideas??

 I can't remember the exact syntax but it's probably
 /server irc.albury.net.au
 or if you don't care which server you connect to:
 /server undernet

 Phil

 
 Thanks for that, Philip, but, unfortunately /server irc.albury.net.au 
 doesn't work (O.K., I know I should have put the servers name in place 
 of /server!!)
 
 I guess I should contact my ISP and get the required information!!
 
 I'll be back!!
 

http://www.albury.net.au/on-line/
click on:
irc://irc.albury.net.au/ali
and Chatzilla will open  automatically connect you.
To join from withn Chatzilla (assuming you've not joined as above: open
Chatzilla and in the text box:
/attach irc://irc.albury.net.au/ali
or as Philip pointed out:
/server irc.albury.net.au
/join #ali

Commands help:
/commands
/help command-name
Example:
/help attach
[USAGE] attach irc-url
[HELP]  Attaches to the IRC URL specified by irc-url. If you are
already attached, the view for irc-url is made current. If that view
has been deleted, it is recreated. You may omit the irc:// portion of
the irc-url. Examples are; /attach moznet, /attach moznet/chatzilla,
and /attach irc.mozilla.org/mozbot,isnick.

These may be of help:
http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/intro
  http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faq/#connect

http://www.irchelp.org/
  http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/faq.html

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Re: Java Problems

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On 10/09/2012 07:47 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 10/9/12 5:51 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Tom Pamin wrote:
 
 I realize this is a SM only forum, but this question concerns both SM
 and IE. Does anyone know why java works fine in SM, but IE 9 doesn't
 recognize java? I just noticed this problem - things worked fine before.
 Here's a link that works fine in SM, but in IE I get a red x (both 32
 and 64-bit). Can someone please try this in both browsers and see what
 you get?
 http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java
 
 Works fine in both. Java took a moment to load in IE (coffee icon), 
 otherwise no difference.
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 
 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
 Build identifier: 20120909051100
 
 IE version 9.0.8112.16421
 Update versions: 9.0.10 (KB2744842)
 
 Windows 7 Pro SP1
 
 
 For Windows, there are different versions of Flash between IE and
 Gecko-based applications; but there is only one Windows version of Java,
 which applies to both IE and Gecko.
 

Well... that depends:
https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions


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Re: Message Posting Does Not Wrap at 72

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On 10/09/2012 10:12 AM, njoracle wrote:
 Chris Ilias wrote:
 On 12-10-09 9:39 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 Under Preferences, I have my Wrap text messages set to 72 characters.
 When I type the message, it does wrap. However, when I post to the NG,
 it does not wrap. Is there some other setting I need to change to make
 the 72 character wrap carry into the posting on the NG.
 
 What you're experiencing is something called format=flowed. For more
 info, see http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/FormatFlowed.
 
 
 Many thanks. I changed both instances of format=flowed to false and
 that seems to have fixed the problem, both on the original message and a
 reply to message
 

OhOh... watch out for Mike Easter incoming! :-)


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Re: Cache.Trash26316

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On 10/07/2012 09:05 PM, flyguy wrote:
 Sometimes, my profile will have a folder named Cache.Trash26316 (the 
 number will vary), in addition to the folder named Cache. It's usually 
 in the 0.5 GB to 1 GB range, and has 15 subfolders apparently named by 
 in a Hex fashion: 1, 2, 3,..., D, E, F. There are usually files named 
 _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_002_, etc, and one named _CACHE_MAP_.
 
 I can delete the folder with no apparent effects, which I usually do 
 when I back up the folder or transfer it to my laptop.
 
 What is this folder?
 

As I understand it, in Windows, when SM or FF experience a session
crash/failure, the existing cache is written to cache.trash. This
apparently was to assist in preserving the cache.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mozilla+%2B+cache.trash
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/15.0/releasenotes/buglist.html
o 754575Cache.Trash* files fill up disk space
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754575
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cache.trash

You can also search on google w/'mozilla cache.trash' for more.


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[linux] IMAP (sucks) + cpu

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Only in that past few months have I added a few IMAP accounts. Now
nearly everytime that I check one of those accounts  (Get Msgs or I get
over 45% cpu from SeaMonkey (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686;
rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1) and can't kill
the process unless I kill all of SeaMonkey.

This is just plain unacceptable; any hints on how I can troubleshoot
this? Can anyone point me to related bug reports?


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Re: [linux] IMAP (sucks) + cpu

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On 10/11/2012 03:22 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 9 octobre 2012, NoOp a écrit :
 
 Only in that past few months have I added a few IMAP accounts. Now
 nearly everytime that I check one of those accounts  (Get Msgs or I get
 over 45% cpu from SeaMonkey (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686;
 rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1) and can't kill
 the process unless I kill all of SeaMonkey.

 This is just plain unacceptable; any hints on how I can troubleshoot
 this? Can anyone point me to related bug reports?
 
 Did you compact folders regularly?

Yes.

 
 Check what is done for deleted messages: they may be just hidden, bloating 
 your mailbox!

Ummm - emptying  compacting remove deleted messages. There are only 20
messages on the server and the inbox on the account. Another account is
used for testing purposes only  has 1 (one) text test message.

 
 If you left your messages on the server, you can try and delete (after 
 backup!) the files containing the messages and index, and let SM fetch 
 them back from the server.

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Re: SM 2.13.1?..

[NoOp]

On 10/12/2012 10:31 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
 Edmund Wong wrote:
 Rufus wrote:

 ...according to this -

 http://www.itworld.com/software/302609/mozilla-releases-firefox-1601-address-four-vulnerabilities



 Firefox and Thunderbird have already released updates, but I don't find
 a SM 2.13.1 on the front page.  Standing by...

 Working on it right now..  thank you for your patience.


 So is there any reason to do a 2.12.1 -- 2.13 upgrade?
 

I'd wait for Edmund to finish 2.13.1:
https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html

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Re: Can't update

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On 10/13/2012 08:15 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
 Even so, why would v. 2.12.1 elicit such a dire warning?

 I was referring to the
  Warning! You're using an old stable version of SeaMonkey.
 quoted in the original post.
 
 And the reply to that is Because it has some grave security issues that 
 are fixed in 2.13.* - and updates should work now that 2.13.1 has been 
 released.
 
 Robert Kaiser
 

Robert, any idea why 720619:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720619
is still block if you are not on the security list?

You are not authorized to access bug #720619. To see this bug, you must
first log in to an account with the appropriate permissions.

It is referenced in:
https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2012/mfsa2012-89.html
References: Lack of security check for [[DefaultValue]]
and
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-4193
CONFIRM:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720619

All of the other reference links work fine.

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[linux] Heads up - 2.13.01 + Lightning 1.8.b1

[NoOp]

When upgrading from 2.12.01 (Lightning version 1.7) to 2.13.01,
SeaMonkey does a check for compatible add-ons. The Found Compatible
Add-Ons for Lightning comes back as Lightning 1.8.b1.

* Don't install 1.8b1!*
Lightning 1.8b1 hassome serious bugs with adding new events (as I
discovered after allowing it to get installed on several of my machines). *

Instead, when you get the Found Compatible Add-Ons, *uncheck*
Lightning 1.8b1. Then go to:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightning/
and download  install Lighting 1.8.

If you've already installed 1.8b1, don't use the calendar  instead go
to the 1.8 addon link, install 1.8 and then restart. Afterwards your
calendar  data should be OK. Of course it's always wise to backup prior
to making any changes/updates...

Note to SeaMonkey devs: please fix this so that the linux addon update
doesn't point to 1.8b1. No issues found on Windows updates - those go
directly to 1.8.
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

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On 10/14/2012 12:18 PM, Ant wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not 
 Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the 
 latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like 
 FlashBlock. Ugh! :(
 
 I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?
 
 Thank you in advance. :)
 


Odd... you participated in this thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012



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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

[NoOp]

On 10/16/2012 07:53 AM, Ant wrote:
 On 10/16/2012 4:48 AM PT, Ann Watson typed:
 
   Have you ever used the Adblock Plus together with the Flashblock
 add-ons in Firefox, or do they not do the job?
 
 Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P
 

If I recall that you use Prefbar... right? I also recall that you
commented and participated in my thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012
In that thread I gave how to create a WebM on/off button - the same as
the Flash on/off button.

For others that would like to read the thread open the search bar 
enter: Turn Off HTML5
That will take you directly to the thread. Note that Ant was the first
to comment on that thread...
Scroll down to: [WebM prefbar button] Re: [Solved] Re: Turn Off HTML5?
and you'll find how to turn off WebM from about:config *and* how to add
a WebM on/off button for Prefbar.

crosspost to Firefox dropped as the thread is only in m.s.s.
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Re: Problems with some sites with SM 2.13.1

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On 10/16/2012 08:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
 Running Mac 10.7.5 and SM 2.13.1,
 
 The following Costco site will not load images:
 http://click.online.costco.com/dm?id=655F93F9FE4A9949ECEABF86887B4A4F55D4898BCCC40632
 

It's an issue with your addons or extensions. I have the same issue with
those turned on. When I restart in safe mode, or use a new, clean test
profile the page loads fine. I also was able to open in Opera  Firefix
16.01 as they do not have the same addons etc., that I have in SeaMonkey.

Click Help|Restart with Add-ons Disabled  then try.

In order to troubleshoot I'll have to turn all addons  extensions off 
then turn back on one-by-one to figure out the one that is causing the
issue. Takes a long time... so I'll let you do that instead :-)

 Also, cannot get either of the following two sites to load at all:
 http://stockcharts.com/charts/pointFigure/dynamicPF.html?$SPX
 http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPXp=Db=5g=0id=0

The issue is that those charts are Java based. If I turn on Jave in
Firefox or Opera they work fine. If I turn Java off in Firefox or Opera
they disappear.

Note: I would have tried the same in SeaMonkey were it not for:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754622
[Bug 754622] [linux] Oracle/Sun Java jre1.7.0_04 and later does not work
in SeaMonkey

 
 Until recently I did not experience problems with these sites. I tried 
 reverting to SM 2.12, but did not help.
 

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

[NoOp]

On 10/16/2012 10:01 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 10/16/2012 9:07 AM PT, NoOp typed:
 
 Ditto! Now, we need a HTML5 video blocker. :P

 If I recall that you use Prefbar... right? I also recall that you
 commented and participated in my thread: Turn Off HTML5? 07/31/2012
 In that thread I gave how to create a WebM on/off button - the same as
 the Flash on/off button.

 For others that would like to read the thread open the search bar 
 enter: Turn Off HTML5
 That will take you directly to the thread. Note that Ant was the first
 to comment on that thread...
 Scroll down to: [WebM prefbar button] Re: [Solved] Re: Turn Off HTML5?
 and you'll find how to turn off WebM from about:config *and* how to add
 a WebM on/off button for Prefbar.

 crosspost to Firefox dropped as the thread is only in m.s.s.
 
 If turning off HTML5, wouldn't that be for ALL? I just want videos only.
 

You should have gone back and read the thread. Please do.

Anyway:

http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM
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Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out

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On 10/16/2012 08:33 PM, Craig wrote:
 So I see the information on SM 2.13.1 being released, go to 
 http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ and download it, checked 
 the SHA1SUM, and installed it.
 
 Now, every time I run SM I am logged out of my CentOS 5.8 system.
 
 What's up with that? I had to downgrade back to 2.12.1 to be able to 
 post this message.
...

Your 2.12.1 SeaMonkey is 64bit. Did you download and install the 32bit
version of 2.13.1 by mistake?
The 64bit version is here:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.13.1
Near the bottom of the page:
Linux/x86_64
Linux/x86_64 .tar.bz2 (readme) (MD5 sum) (SHA1 sum)

How/where did you install it? Note: I typically run SeaMonkey in a
home folder... the install consists of extracting the bz2 file.

Can't help you with CentOS 5.8 64bit. I only have CentOS 6.3 (Final)
running in a 32bit VM. SeaMonkey 2.13.1 (32bit) runs fine there.
SeaMonkey 2.13.1 64bit runs fine on my debian based (Ubuntu) systems.

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Re: Mail Display Page Headings

[NoOp]

On 10/17/2012 06:52 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
...
 I also refused the Windows Live ID cookie (on principle) so maybe that is 
 why I cannot see the picture. I was using Firefox.
 
 I fired up a different browser (IceCat), went to the link, accepted 
 several cookies (for session only), found it left 16 of them, but I could 
 see the screenshot.
 
 I wonder if Richard has hovered the cursor over the empty stripe to see 
 if he gets a double-headed arrow to expand the header area. It looks 
 collapsed to me.
 

Interesting. Thanks for that BT. From that I discovered that PrefBar has
a bug... unchecking the cookies button still allowed cookies through.
Previously it would block all cookies.

No idea if you use PrefBar, but I modified the item to fix that:
toPref: 1+Number(!Value)
fromPref: value !=0
The last allows cookies only from the originating website. To allow all
cookies you just change !=0 to !=1.

I'll submit a bug to Manuel  leave this thread. If any questions (all)
please start a new thread so that I don't continue to hijack 'Mail
Display Page Headings'. :-)

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Re: Mail Display Page Headings

[NoOp]

On 10/17/2012 05:50 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 I also refused the Windows Live ID cookie (on principle) so maybe that
 is why I cannot see the picture. I was using Firefox.
 
 I fired up a different browser (IceCat), went to the link, accepted
 several cookies (for session only), found it left 16 of them, but I
 could see the screenshot.

 Interesting. Thanks for that BT. From that I discovered that PrefBar has
 a bug... unchecking the cookies button still allowed cookies through.
 Previously it would block all cookies.
 
 No idea if you use PrefBar, but I modified the item to fix that: toPref:
 1+Number(!Value)
 fromPref: value !=0 The last allows cookies only from the originating
 website. To allow all cookies you just change !=0 to !=1.
 
 I do use the PrefBar, but not for managing cookies. I just use the 
 browser's own built-in cookie management and clear stuff out periodically. 
 Thanks for the details, though.
 

Filed a bug report:
https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=25179
[Prefbar 6.1 does not block cookies at all / as expected w.]
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Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out

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On 10/17/2012 07:46 PM, Craig wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 Your 2.12.1 SeaMonkey is 64bit.
 
 Actually, it's not: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; 
 rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
 
 It's the 32-bit i686 version.

Ah... so it is. I should have noticed - sorry.

 
 
 Did you download and install the 32bit version of 2.13.1 by mistake?
 
 No, I intentionally downloaded it, as I have all my previous versions.
 
 
 How/where did you install it? Note: I typically run SeaMonkey in a
 home folder... the install consists of extracting the bz2 file.
 
 After checking the SHA1SUM, I executed:
 
 su -
 cd /usr/local
 mv seamonkey seamonkey.old
 tar -xf seamonkey tarball
 cp -a seamonkey.old/plugins seamonkey

Can you try just extracting to a home folder and running to see if it
exhibits the same behavior? Also, can you try in safe mode:

./seamonkey -safe-mode

...
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

[NoOp]

On 10/17/2012 10:32 AM, PhillipJones wrote:
...
 I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 :
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUowfeature=g-vrecwebm-1
 
 SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec  I do have the h.264
 
 Here is a sample video that works in ff17:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1.
 I did notice
 
 Doesn't work in the latest SM.
 

Works for me with Flash turned off and WebM[1] turned on.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011
Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.1
Build identifier: 20121011090043

[1] I was lambasted (correctly) in referring to WebM (which both those
links provide) as HTML5 in my Turn Off HTML5? thread. The hierarchy,
as I now think I understand it, is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5
HTML5 is a markup language for structuring and presenting content for
the World Wide Web, and is a core technology of the Internet originally
proposed by Opera Software.[2] It is the fifth revision of the HTML
standard (created in 1990 and standardized as HTML4 as of 1997)[3] and,
as of October 2012, is still under development. Its core aims have been
to improve the language with support for the latest multimedia while
keeping it easily readable by humans and consistently understood by
computers and devices (web browsers, parsers, etc.). HTML5 is intended
to subsume not only HTML 4, but XHTML 1 and DOM Level 2 HTML as well.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video
The HTML5 draft specification introduced the video element for the
purpose of playing videos or movies,[1] partially replacing the object
element. HTML5 video is intended by its creators to become the new
standard way to show video on the web without plugins, but has been
hampered by lack of agreement as to which video formats should be
supported in web browsers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM
WebM is an audio-video format designed to provide royalty-free, open
video compression for use with HTML5 video. The project's development is
sponsored by Google Inc.


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Re: Can't change address book entries

[NoOp]

On 10/20/2012 04:19 PM, Gabriel wrote:
 On 20/10/12 00.35, Lance Courtland ha scritto:
 SeaMonkey 2.13.1
 Windows XP Pro SP 3

 Whenever I change anything in a contact in any address book, then click
 OK, nothing happens.  I have to click 'Cancel' or close the window, to
 exit the contact window, and the change I made isn't saved.

 Anybody else notice this?
 
 
 Yes, the same with SM 2.12/2.13.1 on OSX :(
 
 G.
 

Works for me:
linux + 2.13.1 (3264bit)
Windows7 Home Premium + 2.13.1
WinXP SP3 + 2.13.1


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SeaMonkey Site preferences are not cleared

[NoOp]

This has bugged me for awhile; when you 'Clear Private Data', SeaMonkey
provides option check boxes for:

o Browsing History
o Location Bar History
o Download History
o Saved Form and Search History
o Cache
o Cookies
o Offline Website Data
o Saved Passwords
o Authenticated settings

It is missing the Firefox option: Site Preferences

This, to me, is a fairly important privacy issue.

If you open the data manager (Tools|Data Manager) and click on the
selection drop down, select 'Preferences Only'. There you most likely
will find a list of websites that you may have used the zoom feature on.
If you've no domains listed, simply go to a web page, View|Zoom and
select a zoom level. Now look at the 'Preferences Only' and you'll find
that website listed with your browser content zoom setting.

All of the above is great  automatically saves your site zoom
preferences... Until you wish to clear your private data. I checked one
of my systems and it has visited domains/sites from 2 years ago. Doesn't
seem to make much sense to be able to clear passwords, history, et al,
and not be able to clear site preferences. The only way that I've found
to do this is to load up the Mozilla, or any sqlite manager, and open
the 'content-prefs.sqlite' file, and empty the groups, prefs, and
settings tables.

Note: Firefox also has an easy user way to clear  reset an individual
page/tab during a session without using 'Tools|Clear Recent History':
View|Zoom|Reset
That not only restores the page to normal zoom, but also clears the
entry out of the content-prefs.sqlite database.

It appears there was some knowledge about the Firefox preference that
cleans this: privacy.clearOnShutdown.siteSettings a few years back when
porting the Sync UL over to SeaMonkey:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576970#c29
+pref(services.sync.prefs.sync.privacy.clearOnShutdown.siteSettings,
true);
We don't have this, but we do have .item.urlbar

I've tried adding the pref privacy.clearOnShutdown.siteSettings in
SeaMonkey 2.13.1 about:config and it does not work.

Ping Neil  Jens: is there any workaround for this other than cleaning
the content-prefs.sqlite tables directly?
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Re: Still not informed of updates

[NoOp]

On 10/25/2012 10:38 AM, Larry S. wrote:
 Craig wrote:
 Daniel wrote:

 Hmmm!! Craig, I see you are posting with a Linux i686 on x86_64
 version of SM (and have been all along in this thread!), which, as you
 suggested, is the 32bit version! So I wonder where *I* got the Linux
 x86_64 (that I posted above) from??

 I wouldn't know the answer to that question. I do, however, have one of
 my own:
  How do you see I am posting with a Linux i686 on x86_64?

 I don't see any of that information from anyone in SM's newsreader.


 Craig

 In the header of your original posting (10/16), your user agent shows as:
 
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 
 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1
 
 Larry
 

Which is the 32bit version (it's like Daniel's 'WOW' url when he posts
using Windows  his current SeaMonkey linux version).

Here is a 64bit SeaMonkey header:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Firefox/16.0
SeaMonkey/2.13.1


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Re: Still not informed of updates

[NoOp]

On 10/25/2012 06:00 PM, Craig wrote:
...
 All the demonstrations of what x86_64 headers look like and where to get 
 the x86_64 software missed the point:
 
 Where does one find the headers? They are not visible in SM's newsreader.

Sure they are. Expand your msg headers and they will show the User-Agent
(even with View|Headers|Normal).

 
 It occurred to me, why I do not know, to type control-U. Lo and behold! 
 There, in the text window that control-U brought up, are the headers, 
 including one line that begins User-Agent:. That line has the 
 information about which I was asking.

Sure they are. Expand your msg headers and it will show the User-Agent
(even with View|Headers|Normal).

For your own UA: Help|About SeaMonkey or Help|Troubleshooting Information.


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Re: Still not informed of updates

[NoOp]

On 10/26/2012 12:00 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Craig:
NoOp wrote:
 
 Sure they are. Expand your msg headers and it will show the User-Agent
 (even with View|Headers|Normal).

The only way I see to expand headers is View - Headers - All.

Your comment implies there's another way. What is it?
 
 You may need to set the pref mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to true.
 
 Hartmut
 

Nice catch Hartmut. Thanks. Apologies to Craig.

@Craig: Hartmut is correct (as usual...). To have the normal headers
show the UA:

In the URL bar: about:config
then enter useragent in the search bar and when
mailnews.headers.showUserAgent appears, double click it to set it to
true. Now when you view the headers View|Headers|Normal you will see:

Subject:
From:
Date:
Newsgroups: (if in newsgroups) or
To: (if in email)
User-Agent:

Gary
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Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out

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On 10/25/2012 08:23 PM, Craig wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 Can you try just extracting to a home folder and running to see if it
 exhibits the same behavior?
 
 I extracted to my home directory and executed,
 
 cd seamonkey/
 ./seamonkey`
 
 and was promptly logged out (my screen went immediately black and after 
 a few seconds the X-Window System login screen was shown).
 
 
 
 Also, can you try in safe mode:

 ./seamonkey -safe-mode
 
 After logging back in, I executed,
 cd seamonkey/
 ./seamonkey -safe-mode
 
 and was again promptly logged out.
 
 
 After logging back in, I even tried,
 
 cd seamonkey
 ./seamonkey --safe-mode
 
 in case that might be the syntax. The result, however, was the same. I 
 was yet again promptly logged out.
 
 Something is wrong.
...

Definately. The only thing that I can think of is a video or
xserver-xorg issue. I had this happen with LibreOffice some time back:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38292
You'd zoom the page size and 'poof' back to the login you'd go. Turned
out to a combination between LO and xserver-xorg-video drivers.

Check your /var/log/xorg* and dmesg logs to see if there is any clue
there. Also check the ~/.xsession-errors.old for the same. And of course
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements. On that last
note the
The following distributions should provide everything needed:
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 (or later)
I'll see if I can find an ISO for CentOS 5.8  will install it. I doubt
that will result in the same issue as I don't have a spare partition to
put it in, so I'll install it in a VM (VirtualBox and VMWare). However,
those VM's use their own vido drivers, so even then I probably won't be
able to replicate.


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Re: Java and Seamonkey?

[NoOp]

On 10/25/2012 09:15 PM, Craig wrote:
 Does it work again yet?
 
 If so, what does one link to one's plugins directory?

Not the Oracle/Sun version. I finally gave up and went with openjdk 
icedtea.

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Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out

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On 10/27/2012 01:45 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 10/25/2012 08:23 PM, Craig wrote:
...
 in case that might be the syntax. The result, however, was the same. I 
 was yet again promptly logged out.
 
 Something is wrong.
 ...
 
 Definately. The only thing that I can think of is a video or
 xserver-xorg issue. I had this happen with LibreOffice some time back:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38292
 You'd zoom the page size and 'poof' back to the login you'd go. Turned
 out to a combination between LO and xserver-xorg-video drivers.
 
 Check your /var/log/xorg* and dmesg logs to see if there is any clue
 there. Also check the ~/.xsession-errors.old for the same. And of course
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements. On that last
 note the
 The following distributions should provide everything needed:
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 (or later)
 I'll see if I can find an ISO for CentOS 5.8  will install it. I doubt
 that will result in the same issue as I don't have a spare partition to
 put it in, so I'll install it in a VM (VirtualBox and VMWare). However,
 those VM's use their own vido drivers, so even then I probably won't be
 able to replicate.
 
 

OK. 5.8 installed  running. Note that this is a 32bit version running
in VirtalBox VM, so the graphics drivers are VB's.

$ lsb_release -irc
Distributor ID: CentOS
Release:5.8
Codename:   Final

$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-308.16.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2
22:01:37 EDT 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026
Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2
Build identifier: 20121026204658

Working. Again, this doesn't duplicate your 64bit install, but it's the
best I can do for now.


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Re: Trying to add new Helper Application

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On 10/28/2012 02:17 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 10/28/12 12:54 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...
 Presently, there is no user-oriented method for setting or changing
 helper applications in SeaMonkey or Thunderbird.  For Thunderbird, see
 bug #708959 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708959,
 which addresses both protocols and MIME types.  I think I might submit a
 parallel bug report for SeaMonkey.
 
 
 
 See bug #806240 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806240.
 

Thanks for that David. I voted  added myself to the cc list.


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Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out

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On 10/29/2012 08:15 AM, Craig wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 OK. 5.8 installed  running. Note that this is a 32bit version running
 in VirtalBox VM, so the graphics drivers are VB's.
 
 H ... I wonder if the NVIDIA drivers I was told to install on this 
 list awhile back are the problem.
...

Could be. What card  which driver?

I forget if you've tried this, but if not can you download the 64bit
version, extract in a home folder (like you did with the 32bit) and
'./seamonkey' to see if it reacts the same?

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.13.2
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.13.2/contrib/seamonkey-2.13.2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2

BTW: the README file shows that the 64bit version was actually built on
CentOS:

quote
*** SeaMonkey 2.13.2 for Linux x86_64 ***

Built using the Mozilla 64bit Linux reference platform:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReferencePlatforms/Linux-CentOS-5.0_64-bit

Using the following mozconfig:
http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/file/default/seamonkey/linux64/comm-beta/release/mozconfig

The used build process is documented at:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Release_Process:2.13.2
/quote


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Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out

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On 10/29/2012 12:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 BTW: the README file shows that the 64bit version was actually built on
 CentOS:
 
 quote
 *** SeaMonkey 2.13.2 for Linux x86_64 ***
 
 Built using the Mozilla 64bit Linux reference platform:
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReferencePlatforms/Linux-CentOS-5.0_64-bit
 
 Using the following mozconfig:
 http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/file/default/seamonkey/linux64/comm-beta/release/mozconfig
 
 The used build process is documented at:
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Release_Process:2.13.2
 /quote

Interesting... while checking out the above I went to:
https://www.centos.org
and on newly installed browsers (Firefox and SeaMonkey), I get:

www.centos.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is
not trusted because no issuer chain was provided. (Error code:
sec_error_unknown_issuer)

However, on my SeaMonkey  Firefox's that I've had installed for years,
I do not get this  the site connects just fine.  Odd.

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Re: Please stop e-mails to me from support list!

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On 10/29/2012 04:55 PM, allanhorn wrote:
 I asked for help, now I can't get back in to STOP the suggestions!~
 

You, of course, read this when you signed up to the mailing list... right?

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#groups
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Re: Basic request

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On 11/01/2012 10:47 AM, Gerry wrote:
 I enjoy using Seamonkey I like the totality of the suite. I'm using 
 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.I have SM 2.8  I'm encouraged to download 2.13.1 which 
 I've done (to ///Downloads) I extract the file but then what?... 
 I appreciate this a very basic request but I don't think I canbe the 
 only one.
 

Easiest way is to follow Walt's advice (somewhat modified). Create a new
folder 'seamonkey':

Home
  /seamonkey

Move the bz2 download to that folder and extract there (right click in
Nautilus  select 'extract here'). That will create a subfolder 'seamonkey':

Home
  /seamonkey/seamonkey

To run that version of SeaMonkey, open a terminal and:
$ /home/username/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey

Once SeaMonkey you are happy that everything is working, create a launcher:

$ gedit /home/username/.local/share/applications/seamonkey.desktop

Now copy  paste the following into the file:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=SeaMonkey
Name[ast]=Veceru de corréu SeaMonkey
Name[ca]=Client de correu SeaMonkey
Name[cs]=Poštovní klient SeaMonkey
Name[da]=SeaMonkey - e-post/nyhedsgruppe
Name[de]=SeaMonkey-E-Mail und -Nachrichten
Name[es]=Cliente de correo SeaMonkey
Name[fi]=SeaMonkey-sähköposti
Name[fr]=Messagerie SeaMonkey
Name[gl]=Cliente de correo SeaMonkey
Name[he]=SeaMonkey דוא״ל/חדשות
Name[hr]=SeaMonkey e-pošta/novosti
Name[hu]=SeaMonkey levelezőkliens
Name[it]=Email SeaMonkey
Name[ko]=SeaMonkey
Name[nl]=SeaMonkey e-mail/nieuws
Name[pl]=Klient poczty SeaMonkey
Name[pt_BR]=Cliente de E-mail SeaMonkey
Name[ru]=Почтовый клиент SeaMonkey
Name[sk]=SeaMonkey - poštový klient a novin
Name[sv]=E-postklienten SeaMonkey
Name[ug]=SeaMonkey ئېلخەت/خەۋەر
Name[zh_CN]=SeaMonkey 邮件/新闻
Name[zh_TW]=SeaMonkey 郵件
Comment=Send and receive mail with SeaMonkey
Comment[ast]=Lleer y escribir corréu electrónicu
Comment[ca]=Llegiu i escriviu correu
Comment[cs]=Čtení a psaní pošty
Comment[da]=Skriv/læs e-post/nyhedsgruppe med SeaMonkey
Comment[de]=E-Mails und Nachrichten mit SeaMonkey lesen und schreiben
Comment[es]=Lea y escriba correos y noticias con SeaMonkey
Comment[fi]=Lue ja kirjoita sähköposteja
Comment[fr]=Lire et écrire des courriels
Comment[gl]=Lea e escriba correo electrónico
Comment[he]=קריאה/כתיבה של דוא״ל/חדשות באמצעות SeaMonkey
Comment[hr]=Čitajte/šaljite e-poštu s SeaMonkey
Comment[hu]=Levelek írása és olvasása a SeaMonkeydel
Comment[it]=Per leggere e scrivere email
Comment[ja]=メールの読み書き
Comment[ko]=SeaMonkey 메일/뉴스 읽기 및 쓰기 클라이언트
Comment[nl]=E-mail/nieuws lezen en schrijven met SeaMonkey
Comment[pl]=Czytanie i wysyłanie e-maili
Comment[pt_BR]=Ler e escrever suas mensagens
Comment[ru]=Читайте и пишите письма
Comment[sk]=Čítajte a píšte poštu, čítajte novinky pomocou programu
SeaMonkey
Comment[sv]=Läs och skriv e-post
Comment[ug]=ئېلخەت ۋە خەۋەرلەرنى SeaMonkey دا كۆرۈش ۋە يېزىش
Comment[zh_CN]=阅读邮件或新闻
Comment[zh_TW]=以 SeaMonkey 讀寫郵件或新聞
GenericName=Mail Client
Exec=/home/username/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey %u
Terminal=false
X-MultipleArgs=false
Type=Application
Icon=/home/username/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default48.png/default.png
Categories=Application;Network;Email;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;x-scheme-handler/mailto;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ftp;
StartupWMClass=SeaMonkey
StartupNotify=true
GenericName[ast]=Client de correu
GenericName[ca]=Client de correu
GenericName[da]=E-postklient
GenericName[de]=E-Mail-Anwendung
GenericName[es]=Cliente de correo
GenericName[fi]=Sähköpostiohjelma
GenericName[fr]=Client de messagerie
GenericName[gl]=Cliente de correo electrónico
GenericName[he]=לקוח דוא״ל
GenericName[hr]=Klijent e-pošte
GenericName[hu]=Levelezőkliens
GenericName[it]=Client email
GenericName[ko]=메일 클라이언트
GenericName[nl]=E-mailprogramma
GenericName[ru]=Почтовый клиент
GenericName[sk]=Poštový klie
GenericName[ug]=ئېلخەت دېتالى
GenericName[zh_CN]=邮件新闻客户端
GenericName[zh_TW]=郵件用戶端

Be sure to change username to your actual username in the file. Save
the file  exit gedit. Now open Nautilus and go to where you just
created the desktop file:
/home/username/.local/share/applications/
click  hold on the seamonkey.desktop file  drag it over to your Unity
launch bar, release. Note: if you have issues with the launch bar not
appearing, press  hold the Super key (Windows key on some keyboards).

Note that I had you create the launcher in
/home/username/.local/share/applications/seamonkey.desktop. The reason
for that is I (and other 12.04 users) do not use Unity, I use GNOME
Classic instead. By putting it in the
/home/username/.local/share/applications/ the menu item will show when
I open my menu. If you switch to GNOME Fallback (I think that's what it
is), SeaMonkey will show up in your menu as well.

Also note that I left in the multiple languages in the 'Desktop Entry'.
Again, this is so that a non-english speaker can use the file as well.

And 

Re: How to edit HTML tags in mail?

[NoOp]

On 11/01/2012 11:06 PM, Kjell Rilbe wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I often find the HTML editing in the mail client very lacking, as it 
 seems to muck up line breaks and where various formatting starts and ends.
 
 So, I'd like to be able to switch to HTML source editing for my emails. 
 I know there is such an editing mode in Composer, but I want to do it in 
 my mail editor.
 
 Is there any way to do that?
 
 Kjell
 

Ctrl-A to select all, then Insert|HTML
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Re: How to edit HTML tags in mail?

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On 11/02/2012 12:03 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 Ctrl-A to select all, then Insert|HTML
 

Sorry for the noise... I missed Hartmut's earlier post that suggested
the same.

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Re: Basic request

[NoOp]

On 11/02/2012 12:13 PM, WaltS wrote:
 On 11/02/2012 02:42 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 11/01/2012 10:47 AM, Gerry wrote:
 I enjoy using Seamonkey I like the totality of the suite. I'm using
 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.I have SM 2.8  I'm encouraged to download 2.13.1 which
 I've done (to ///Downloads) I extract the file but then what?...
 I appreciate this a very basic request but I don't think I canbe the
 only one.


 Easiest way is to follow Walt's advice (somewhat modified). Create a new
 folder 'seamonkey':

 Home
/seamonkey

 Move the bz2 download to that folder and extract there (right click in
 Nautilus  select 'extract here'). That will create a subfolder 'seamonkey':

 Home
/seamonkey/seamonkey

 
 I am always mystified by that double seamonkey folder step. What is the 
 reasoning?
 
 Until I created my applications folder all my manually installed apps 
 would go into Home.
 
 Thus home/username/seamonkey, home/username/firefox. Now it is 
 home/username/applications/seamonkey and so forth.
 

I use the base folder /home/username/seamonkey to keep the bz2's in (I
typically have 3 or 4 versions). That way I don't clutter up the base
home folder. Sample:

$ ls ~/seamonkey
seamonkey
seamonkey-2.11.tar.bz2
seamonkey-2.12a1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
seamonkey-2.12a2.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
seamonkey2131
seamonkey-2.13.2.tar.bz2

It's simply a personal preference.

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[Resolved] Re: Running SM 2.13.1 logs me out

[NoOp]

On 11/02/2012 12:05 PM, Craig wrote:
...
 I then downloaded and installed the latest NVIDIA driver,
 NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.60.run.
 
 Trying the 64-bit version again, it ran properly and I was not logged out.
 
 I then downloaded, installed, and tried the 32-bit version of
 2.13.2 with success, even with copying my plugins directory to
 /usr/local/seamonkey.

Excellent!
...
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Re: Still not informed of updates

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On 11/02/2012 12:15 PM, Craig wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 In the URL bar: about:config
 then enter useragent in the search bar and when
 mailnews.headers.showUserAgent appears, double click it to set it to
 true. Now when you view the headers View|Headers|Normal you will see:

 Subject:
 From:
 Date:
 Newsgroups: (if in newsgroups) or
 To: (if in email)
 User-Agent:

 Gary
 
 Thank you, Harmut and Gary. That does indeed work.
 
 Now, back to my original question:
 
   Why am I not informed of updates?
 
 I did notice that Firefox has the same problem. I went to 
 http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ to get Seamonkey 2.13.2 and 
 noticed that the latest Firefox is 16.0.2, while I was running 15.0.1. 
 Clicking on About Firefox and then Check for updates told me that I 
 had the latest version.
 
 
 Craig
 

I'm probably not the best to ask as I have both SeaMonkey and Firefox
'check for updates' turned off (there were issues previously with them
automatically downloading even when Automatically download  install was
turned off).

Check to see what you have checked in:

Edit|Preferences|Advanced|Software Install...

Firefox:
Edit|Preferences|Advanced|Update
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Re: Still not informed of updates

[NoOp]

On 11/02/2012 01:52 PM, Craig wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 Check to see what you have checked in:

 Edit|Preferences|Advanced|Software Install...
 
 Add-ons
 Allow websites to install add-ons and updates
 Automatically check for updates daily
 
 Seamonkey
 Automatically check for updates daily

Maybe you're just an unlucky soul :-)

OK. I backed this down from 2.13.2 to 2.13.1; 32bit version on a 64bit
system:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:16.0)
Gecko/20121011 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.1

When I click: Help|Check for Updates I am informed that there is a
securty update - 2.13.2:


Update Available
A security and stability update for SeaMonkey is available:

SeaMonkey 2.13.2

It is strongly recommended that you apply this update for SeaMonkey as
soon as possible.


You know of course that you'll not get any update info with the 64bit
version - you have to monitor the rss feed, this group, or the release
schedule. Just to verify, I've now fired up the 64bit version to finish
this post:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011
Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.1

and checking: Help|Check for Updates shows no update is available.

I'll put this back to 32bit 2.13.1  enable 'check daily' and let it sit
for awhile to see if there is any result.

 
 Firefox:
 Edit|Preferences|Advanced|Update
 
 Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them
 
 Automatically update Search Engines
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Craig
 

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.14b3 Released.

[NoOp]

On 11/02/2012 08:33 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:
 
 
 The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.14b3: An updated 
 release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download [1] 
 now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox 
 release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as 
 HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed.
 
 SeaMonkey 2.14b3 is available in 26 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and 
 Linux.
 
 For a more complete list of major changes [2] in SeaMonkey 2.14b3, see 
 the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.14b3 section of the Release Notes [3], 
 which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently 
 asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project 
 (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.
 
 Links:
 [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/changes
 [3] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/
 

It's unfortunate that you missed this one:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702165
[Bug 702165 - crash [@ nsMsgQuickSearchDBView::OnSearchDone ] - .. - [@
nsMsgSearchSession::InterruptSearch] when change folders before search
is finished]

IMO that is a show stopper for 2.14 release.

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Re: How can I find my old e-mails and Address Book

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On 11/03/2012 01:41 AM, Alex Beauroy wrote:
 I had Seamonkey on a PC with Vista
 My computer went kaput I had to change the Mothercard, the processor,
  in order to be able to connect to internet I upgraded to Windows 7
 But I cannot find my Address Book and my Old e-mails.
 Is there something I should do???
 Thanks in advance
 Best Regards
 @lex
 

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.14b3 Released.

[NoOp]

On 11/03/2012 07:31 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Philip TAYLOR wrote:
...
 Perhaps a dedicated channel targeted solely at those who are
 interested in beta- releases would be of benefit here.
 
 Maybe. AFAIK there are no plans for that right now, though. I don't even 
 know who administers mailing lists and news groups. Someone at Mozilla, 
 I guess.
 
 Greetings,
 
 Jens
 

The RSS feed is (IMO) an excellent source/channel for that now.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news-atom

At least that is where I keep informed... :-)


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Re: Still not informed of updates

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On 11/02/2012 03:32 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 When I click: Help|Check for Updates I am informed that there is a
 securty update - 2.13.2:
 
 
 Update Available
 A security and stability update for SeaMonkey is available:
 
 SeaMonkey 2.13.2
 
 It is strongly recommended that you apply this update for SeaMonkey as
 soon as possible.
 
 
 You know of course that you'll not get any update info with the 64bit
 version - you have to monitor the rss feed, this group, or the release
 schedule. Just to verify, I've now fired up the 64bit version to finish
 this post:
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011
 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.1
 
 and checking: Help|Check for Updates shows no update is available.
 
 I'll put this back to 32bit 2.13.1  enable 'check daily' and let it sit
 for awhile to see if there is any result.
...

Sorry, I forgot to follow-up. Result of the last is that I also set it
to 'automatically download and install'... it did. And I remember why I
purposely turned that off :-)

Anyway, if you 32bit SeaMonkey 2.13.2 doesn't notifiy you of the next
update holler away. Or, you could back yours down to 2.13.1 and see if
it is working now.


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