Re: [SWCollect] Time to blend topics
Pedro Quaresma schrieb: Haha, portuguese people don't earn enough money to be able to buy soccer game tickets at leisure :) :( Totally OT, but out of interest: How much are the tickets anyway? Let's say I'd want a medium priced seat close to the middle of the field. Which also reminds me of Germany 2006: One of the stadiums is twenty minutes from me, but prices will probably be astronomic as well. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Best copy protection?
Pedro Quaresma schrieb: Shadow of the Comet by Infogrames (back from the days when Infogrames was likeable -- ah that would start a whole new discussion! Anyone else following the end of Interplay?). Certainly. It is sad to see the company go that way. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Best copy protection?
Jim Leonard schrieb: know, sorry if that wasn't clear. I am hoping he will do something decent with the Bard's Tale project... Him remaking Bard's Tale, and Sid Meier remaking Pirates! are two projects I'm eagerly anticipating. It is good to see that the people originally behind those great names do something with them, but they certainly don't come up with anything new that way. Oh well, Molyneux is still quite sucessful with selling us the same concept for the last 15 years, so why not them ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Best copy protection?
Pedro Quaresma schrieb: Another Microprose game with similar copy protection was Pirates! Gold I believe. You'd have to recognize a Pirate banner. That reminds me of the original Pirates! copy protection: You had to look up at what port the gold fleet was in a certain month. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Best copy protection?
Jim Leonard schrieb: I was lucky enough to have a BW hand scanner (remember those?) that used a red scanning beam. A bit of adjustment to the contrast, and voila -- I could reproduce those like they were black on white sheets of paper. :-) At that time I had only heard of scanners :-) BTW, another drive-the-legitimate-buyer-out-of-his-mind copy protection: Type the seventh word in the third paragraph on page 22. You never knew if they counted chapter titles, quotations, or whatever else was there along regular text, or not. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Time to blend topics
Edward Franks schrieb: What I find an interesting observation of human nature in action is the fact so many folks that download stuff illegally turn the whole business into some noble moral imperative. But that's a whole 'nother topic. Humans tend to legitimize their actions, so that their inner morality is to them in balance with the collective morality. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Time to blend topics
Pedro Quaresma schrieb: I still do that now and then to be honest. In Portugal many times we have to wait months or even years to get a game on the shelves. Most recent example is Prince of Qin, one of the best RPGs of 2002, started being sold in Portugal last month, and at full retail price no less! So I honestly don't think it's a crime to get a game from the net, test it, and if it's bad, bin it. If it's good, buy it. Shouldn't you be at the Euro 2004 anyway? ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Best copy protection?
Hugh Falk schrieb: I can remember two really BAD examples: I can include a third: Zak McKracken. IIRC the game came with five-symbol codes printed in black on really dark brown paper. Of course the protection was no problem for crackers, but was a serious nuisance for any legitimate owner of the game. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] June 22, 1979
Neat coincidence! Maybe, John, it is your path of destiny : You will bring us a glorious comeback for Infocom ;) I can see a Quake under the Infocom label: http://www.loonyboi.com/if/quake/index.htm Marco John Romero schrieb: June 22nd was also the day Quake was released (1996). ;) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] June 22, 1979
Well, I know that Activision is planning yet another Infocom compilation. Maybe they'll make it the 25th anniversary edition. Though I'm sure we won't be seeing any festivities on Activision's compound ;) Marco Feldhamer, Stuart schrieb: LOL! That's a good one, Jim! Stuart -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Kids and Classic Gaming
Yeah, that had me literally LOL in front of the screen :-) To those kids we are ancient history ;-) Marco Stephen Emond schrieb: I loved this one: Kirk: And you can't pick up an AK-47 and go killhey, those aliens on the top row, you use them in EGM for stuff. EGM: Yeah, we use them to end our articles. They do kinda look like they're from Space Invaders, don't they? Tim: They're going to sue you. Kirk: I'm sure everyone who made this game is dead by now. Thats priceless :p -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Kids and Classic Gaming Cute ;) http://www.egmmag.com/article2/0,2053,1487038,00.asp -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Nit-picking at its finest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Jim Leonard wrote: ** Hm... Now see, I would probably take a blank disk, write Akalabeth to it, and put the sticker on -- wouldn't that be worth just a tiny bit more? ** No smile emoticon...no indication of humor...For goodness sake, Jim, I hope you're kidding! Wasn't Jim's sarcasm obvious enough? I think you may take this too serious. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Cornerstone on Ebay
Look at this, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3773item=3677785326rd=1 and note the Sophisticated Database... cover only over the lower left of the box. Wasn't there a slipcase that went entirely over the plastic box? Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] FYI
It's www.infocom-if.org Marco Stuart Feldhamer schrieb: Hmm...I appreciate you asking. Legally I probably have no say in the matter. What is the URL of your site? Stuart -Original Message- From: Marco Thorek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] FYI Stuart, do you mind if I use your scans on my site? Marco Stuart Feldhamer schrieb: You mean things cut out of a magazine aren't worth anything? Shucks : ) Here's one of my favorites (attached) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Mailing list work
Jim Leonard schrieb: Just a quick note that the swcollect mailing list software is still a bit broken -- currently there is no way to subscribe or unsubscribe. So you trapped us here forever! :) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] FYI
Stuart, do you mind if I use your scans on my site? Marco Stuart Feldhamer schrieb: You mean things cut out of a magazine aren't worth anything? Shucks : ) Here's one of my favorites (attached) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] And another...
Well, I haven't painted the actual Mona Lisa either ;-) Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a message dated 05/12/2004 1:55:11 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: software title considered the Mona Lisa of antique electronic programs Gosh I hope you aren't talking about the actual software/game Marco, have you ever played it? ;) Tom -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] So obviously Mt. Drash is no longer rare....
Is there actually a game out there of which only one single copy exists? Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a message dated 05/12/2004 1:28:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's say there are definitely rarer things out there... ;) Like what Holger, are you talking about a computer game? If so which one? Even though Drash is showing up now I still think under 500 were sold and doubtful many survived. Are there many computer games that had less than 1000 sold (Akalabeth sold 3)? Even if so I'm sure they would pop up if the price was right, it's just because of the prices (note each auction uses info from a previous auction) that Drash is showing up now. And it will dry up, not sure how many before it does (but not a LOT). Tom -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ouch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a message dated 05/10/2004 9:50:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You guys went to school/college together? Heh, where did you come up with that Marco? No, we live fairly close to each other, were discussing Moby scale one day while plowing through boxes of games at my storage locker (where I kept boxes of games). Maybe you were thinking of a school locker? Yup, that's what I thought. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ouch and I Don't Like This threads
Stuart Feldhamer schrieb: Hmmm... If I had to summarize: Most people are unhappy that the prices are going ridiculously high. There is a big argument about whether it should be MS or M(S). Nobody sees the connection between these two threads? Yeah, we don't have real problems ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ouch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Yup, remember Jim, when we were discussing the Moby scale (long time ago, at my storage locker I believe) You guys went to school/college together? Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] I don't like this at all...
Freddie Bingham schrieb: You could stick me on that list. If I see something with a buy-it-now of $5 (that I don't need) and I know I can relist it and sell it for $60, I'll do it. Just another way to fund this ludicrous obsession of cardboard box collecting. There is nothing wrong with that. You do it to finance your hobby. Others would as well buy and sell can openers, if there was a lucrative market. I think that takes the heart out of collecting. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ouch
Alexander Zöller schrieb: I know what you're saying. You crack the wrap, the game is still stone mint, but it will only grade NM. There's a good reason to this however. Only with the factory wrap can a game be graded mint, because once opened, it's no longer as it comes from the factory. So I'm with Jim on this one. Yup. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] YEAH-HA-HAAAAA!
Indeed, what is it? Marco Hugh Falk schrieb: Never heard of it...is there a story behind it? Hugh -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 1:22 PM To: Software Collectibles Mailing List Subject: [SWCollect] YEAH-HA-HA! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8103582942 Last one sold in the U.S., $300+! I've got a guy who's going to pay and reship for me, should come to about $35 - $40 total. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Talk about boneheads...
I just bought Archon from them. Email communication was good and the game arrived in time. However, I had also bought Neuromancer and they said there was a problem with the buy it now items and the games (they had multiple copies) were actually already sold but Ebay automatically relisted them. Maybe true, maybe not. Marco Freddie Bingham schrieb: The seller of this auction has *never* responded to any email I have sent asking innocent questions about his auctions, hence I don't bid on them. -freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Josh Lulewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Talk about boneheads... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8103158348; category=4 315sspagename=STRK%3AMEBDW%3AITrd=1 rolls eyes -josh p.s. If the winner is on the list I offer no apologies... -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Zork question
To my knowledge Zork was a word used by computer geeks at MIT for just about everything, as in give me that zork over there. Its origins are lost in time; it may have been the book you mentioned, but its not the only place the word zork was used. For example, Mattel, I think, had toys named Chopcyles, which predate the text adventure, and one of them was named Mighty Zork Chopcyle - http://www.theweaponshop.com/sizzlers.html We could guess that the future Infocom authors may have played with those toys as kids and carried the word over to their college life. Or they read that book. Marco Howard Feldman schrieb: I seem to remember reading somewhere that Zork was named after a mid-70's poetry book called 'A Hastily Thrown Together Bit of Zork'. Can't seem to find where I read it with google. Does anyone know if this is true? Does anyone have the book? Is it also true that only 150 copies of the book were released into general circulation? Just wondered how 'collectible' the book is, since Ive never seen it. -- -- Howard Feldman, Author of The Search for Freedom A Computer Fantasy Role-Playing Game Visit its Homepage at http://home.golden.net/~feldman/SearchForFreedom/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Zork question
To my knowledge Dungeon was dropped out of fear that the people behind Dungeons Dragons might claim a TM conflict. Marco Peter Olafson schrieb: While not entirely contradicting the source you suggest, this page suggests around origin, http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Zork Originally, 'Zork' was a name that any unfinished program around MIT got. When the game was finished the implementors called it Dungeon, but people went on calling it Zork, so the name stuck (not an unusual course of events for software and other high-tech products with entrenched 'working titles'). Hope this helps! Peter Howard Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to remember reading somewhere that Zork was named after a mid-70's poetry book called 'A Hastily Thrown Together Bit of Zork'. Can't seem to find where I read it with google. Does anyone know if this is true? Does anyone have the book? Is it also true that only 150 copies of the book were released into general circulation? Just wondered how 'collectible' the book is, since Ive never seen it. -- -- Howard Feldman, Author of The Search for Freedom A Computer Fantasy Role-Playing Game Visit its Homepage at http://home.golden.net/~feldman/SearchForFreedom/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi! th a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Even marginally ethical?
Jim Leonard schrieb: Stephane Racle wrote: And it goes on every day in a number of industries. :-) Yes, but that doesn't mean it has to go on in ours. This mailing list has several prominent people of the software collecting movement as members, and I don't think it's a stretch to say that, if we all acted in unison, we could strongly influence the state of software collecting today. I agree. We'd be like, uh, Enron :-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] New Article from The Origin Museum
Very cool, Joe! You won't rip the sealed ones open, will you? Please don't, they look so ..pristine. Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thought people would be interested in seeing a new article. Please check it out, and tell me what you think. Go to my site, and click on the STORIES section--It's called,One Last Goodbye From The Creators of Worlds...-- I think you'll be pleased. Thanks for looking. ...Preserving Worlds... Joe Garrity Curator of The Origin Museum -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Anyone heard of Charles C Carroll??
Josh Lulewicz schrieb: I suppose the previous owner might just have liked labelling his stuff.. but it seems unlikely. Anyone got any clue what this could be from? Some kind of demo copy maybe? Does the name mean anything to you Sierra buffs? I googled the name but it is surprisingly common, and didnt find anything to do with Sierra or gaming - though he DID sign the US Constitution or something ;) Hm, it seems Sierra was longer in the business than we thought ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] CURIOUS Guide
Wow, very nice, Hugh! On a first glance I found one problem: When I click on one of the sublinks (year, title, etc.) I get a 404. Like here, http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~gotcha/PHP/1082653752 Marco Hugh Falk schrieb: After weeks of frustration and experimentation, I finally have a DB solution for the CUROIUS Guide up and running. You can get to it from my site (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/) through the menu, but here is a direct link to the DB page: http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~gotcha/PHP/curious_view.php. There are some nice features like sorting, filtering and a printable view, but there is still some more functionality I want to add (like alphabetical tabs). For now I think it is very usable. Id really appreciate some feedback specifically if it works since so many people had problems with the last version. Keep in mind that this is only the beginning. There are likely many errors and obviously there are many many games/box variations still to add. Thanks, Hugh -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] So obviously Mt. Drash is no longer rare....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hmm, seems 5 of 7 are owned by this group. I have an idea. Let's win this one, then we have 6 of 7. Sell them all for 50K, someone surely would like to own 6 of 7 known. Since my idea and I have two I'll take 35K and you all can split up the rest, heh ;) Ah, I'd suggest we take the 50k, buy a nice office building, call it Software Collecting Corporation Headquarters and hold meetings on the future of game collecting ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Anyone seen this Zork poster before?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3715995961category=28009 It sure is news to me. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] First version of the CURIOUS Guide is up!
Well, I got IE6 and Office XP and no enchilada ;-) Marco Lee K. Seitz schrieb: Jukka Eronen stated: It didn't load on me; needs Microsoft Office components and Explorer 5.01 (have IE 5.0 something); I got the same thing. I'm running IE 6, but Office 95 (but Windows 2000). No, my software combination isn't typical. 8) -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] And then one day, the Holy Grail is found
IIRC some copy protections try to read if they are loading from a commercially pressed CD or a burned CD. CDs contain information on who the manufacturer was, what kind of dye was used, what kind of media it is, etc. So this tool here might be helpful to distinguish if what you got is the real deal: http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,22912,00.asp Marco C.E. Forman schrieb: My initial thoughts on this... Were the two sealeds on eBay in Q4 2003 from the same seller? Watch the ID(s) to see if they list more. Silver-base CD or green/red/blue (obvious CD-R)? If there's a back insert, probably no way to tell w/o cracking the wrap. Silver doesn't mean it's not a fake, though, could be someone w/ access to better burning equipment. If few were sold, could indicate a lot were unsold (i.e. kept in storage, still sealed). Printing on liner notes and disc itself, same as the one you know is an original? Not sure I'd be worried at this point, until some of these questions get answered. We've had 4 Drashes sold in the last 6 months (3 on eBay), so they seem to be popping up everywhere as well. B-) - Original Message - I too have found another 'sealed' copy of 'Origin Audio CD-Volume 1' (I bought it off of Ebay in Q4 of 2003). I now have two. I also know someone else (Ben Lesnick) who got a 'sealed' copy as well (he got it from Ebay in Q4 of 2003). I also saw someone else who has one from a few years ago (Lancelot Du Lake). They seem to now be popping up everywhere...perhaps I'm paranoid, but C.E. has taught us all to be 'ever vigilant'. Could these be forgeries, or was there a box of them uncovered recently? We need to find out. I know that my original copy is probably real, but I never checked it closely against the shrinkwrapped one. I will compare them this week, and give you all a report. I'll also try to review my emails from that period, and find out who I bought it from. This could be the first 'Origin Forgery', or the luckiest day in Pedro's LIFE! Like I said, I'm probably wrong, but I think we have enough knowledge and resources to find out. ...Preserving Worlds... Joe Garrity Curator of The Origin Museum -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Avoid that Paypal fee!!!
Be aware that they'll probably cancel your account if they find out. Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Interesting development. Freind overseas made mistake, sent partial paypal balance, partial Ccard payment to my free acct which cannot take ccards. So I had to deny it as I don't want to upgrade that acct. He says the money went back into his paypal balance. Perhaps this is because it was part ccard, part balance to begin with, it could not return to two places. If so people overseas or US buyers could send me (or you) $1 paypal balance and the rest ccard. To free acct. Then I deny and they get it all back in paypal balance. Can then resend to free acct, NO FEES!!! Tres cool, will test this out... Those buggers (paypal) are going to pay for stealing from me, this is good revenge right here, feel free to join the party Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Video Game Documentary tonight
John Romero schrieb: Hahaha, I remember interviewing for this but have not seen it yet. :) He, we'll finally find out if you let your hair grow again! ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] What Path are you currently on?
One thing that fascinates me about our hobby is: We are from Scandinavia, Portugal, the USA, Canada, Germany, etc., essentially half the globe, and it connects us. This is probably not unique to our hobby, but still, in our microcosm we span the macrocosm. Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I find it fascinating that our hobby takes us down many different paths, far and away from software collecting. Sometimes theyve taken us deep into unknown territory, hunting for that possible elusive copy, and we get a bit of culture with our favorite dish. Sometimes theyre good, and sometimes theyre bad (See C.E. Formans Detroit Suck City review on his website), but they take us to places and ideas that we never wouldve ventured otherwise. Im currently involved in a few Museum projects that are showing me new people, places, things, and ideas that I NEVER wouldve seen before. My latest project is showing me Hollywood special effects, taxidermy, and window display personnelall on behalf of my gaming obsession! Ill surprise you all with pictures this week as the project gels, but I just wanted to ask if everyone else on the boards has as much fun with these diversions as I do? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
Edward Franks schrieb: I recently had one person very politely lecture me about listing stuff at inconvenient (for European bidders) times. I apologized, but explained that most of my buyers are from the US so I set my auctions accordingly. After the US I seem to sell equally to Europe and the Pacific Rim. Selling worldwide means someone is going to have to get up in the middle of the night to bid. It's time for the IGST (intergalactic standard time), isn't it? ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Scexpo
He, I collect software from the time when I was 12-17. It's a matter of attitude ;-) Marco C.E. Forman schrieb: *Sigh* I have changed the group name to sc-expo (Yahoo doesn't allow spaces). Can we resume being grown-ups now? B-) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] The Origin Museum--We're BACK!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: As a fitting end to this email, I now present to you all a photo showing proof that the relics of gaming's past are being remembered, and preserved: http://www.originmuseum.net/steve/drash.jpg Heah, wow, that's one neat job. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Question about trading partner
Thank you guys! Marco Lee K. Seitz schrieb: Marco Thorek stated: I'm trying to do a deal with the guy running this website, http://members.tripod.com/classic-videogames/ Anybody have prior experiences with him? Can he be trusted? I've dealt with him via Usenet and eBay and had no problems with him either time. The former was back in '99 and I was the buyer. The latter was one year ago when he won an auction of mine. I believe, from another e-mail I found, that C.E. may have dealt with him as well. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay
Dan Chisarick schrieb: While the MX 700 is a wonderful piece of hardware (its what I'm using now) it is REALLY fussy about how far away it is from its base station. They advertised a max of 6'. More like 2' for truly reliable use. Of course I have a wireless network and possibly other sources of RF interference. I almost returned it until I moved it within 18 of its base and it has been dead on ever since. Yup, could be interference. I have a couch opposite my desk, where I watch TV from here and then via the PC, when my girlfriend wants to watch something else. The distance is about six feet and the mouse works. Also (don't remember where I read it but it *seems* to be accurate), the batteries last longer if the laser doesn't have to work too hard. I taped a piece of white paper to my mousepad. I didn't actually benchmark it, but it *seems* that the charge lasts longer. Someone club me over the head if this is known BS. No, it's true. Logitech says something about that on their website. Lighter surfaces seem to offer more reflection and therefore the mouse doesn't have to do as much work to track movements. BTW, IIRC Logitech also says something about the mouse being designed to be used with no mousepad at all. Depending on the surface of your desk that might be worth a try. Without a mousepad you also are not restricted to its boundaries. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Scexpo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Kinda sounds like Sexpo ;) Are there going to be scantily clad women? Sure, the original CES babes from the 80s. You gotta stay in style ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thanks for the info, think I will go with the MX700, can get for about $45 shipped. Heah Tom, if you can get it that cheap, then consider one of their keyboard/mouse sets: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=1,CONTENTID=6831 That's one hell of a keyboard and if you buy it now with the set, it might come cheaper than buying it individually later. BTW, I found that with frequent use the little nub inside the base's holder that keeps the mouse in position when you recharge rubs on its finishing (just below the Logitech logo on the mouse). I put a little felt sticker on the nub to remedy that. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Spyware
I have a personal firewall on my system, less of fear that someone might try to come in, but that something might try to phone home. For example, a couple of weeks ago I installed a friend's OCR software for testing and it installed a TSR along with it: even when the OCR program wasn't running, the freaking thing tried to contact its makers. The firewall also quarantines any suspicious mail attachments, but as mail client I use good ole' Navigator 4.54 anyway. Some of those attachments aim for weaknesses in OE, and my Navigator is simply too old to understand all that fancy stuff. A program I can wholeheartedly reccommend in this context is Robin Keir's K9, that uses a Bayes algorithm to weed out spam (and things like the important update from Microsoft alongs with it): http://www.keir.net/k9.html BTW, the hottest issue regarding those little malicious buggers around here in Germany were and are dialers - trojans that replace your normal internet connection without your knowledge with 0190 numbers (for you Americans: 1-900 numbers). For dial-up users this generated some hefty bills. The billing's done by the phone companies who own the lines and so they send all their might and lawyers after you, if you don't pay. They don't do that out of any unselfishness either, as a certain percentage of the generated income goes to them for providing the line. It has been until now that a higher court here in Germany decided that a user fooled that way must not pay and that the phone company cannot ask for more than what would have been generated through use of the normal internet connection. Is the rest of the world as ridden by those dialers as we are around here? Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I had a LOT of spyware on my computer as I've been using same drive/programs for a long time (like close to 100 spybots). If you'd like to check these sites are free (scan and REMOVE, many ask you to pay to remove). If anyone runs I'd be interested in hearing results (see if anyone has more than I did). I run both as spyware items are hard coded it seems, one might find some the other misses. http://www.safer-networking.org/ http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay
Well, the Porsche among the wireless optical is Logitech's MX 700 (MX 900 if you want it as Bluetooth). It uses double the dpi your standard optical uses and is as accurate as a corded mouse. It also uses rechargeable batteries, which is a lot cheaper in the long run than buying batteries again and again - at night or during breaks you put it on its recharge station. Only problem: The mouse is beyond your price range. At the moment it should sell for 79, which should be about the same in $. Your alternative would the Cordless MouseMan Optical, which I used until I replaced it with the MX 700. It is not as precise as the latter, but if you aren't into FPS that shouldn't matter much to you. On Ebay you should be able to get a used one comparatively cheap. (Or heah, buy mine! :-) Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Need wireless rechargable optical mouse. Anyone have suggestions (want cheap, maybe $25 shipped?). Tried ebay but most sellers have shipping cost of $11-20 (yes for one mouse), I refuse to buy from such a seller. Ebay needs new search function, shipping cost search, taking way too long to find one with reasonable s+h (probably searched 20 auctions, don't have time for that crap). Thanks, Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Question about trading partner
I'm trying to do a deal with the guy running this website, http://members.tripod.com/classic-videogames/ Anybody have prior experiences with him? Can he be trusted? Thanks! Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Spyware
Jim Leonard schrieb: Yes, well, have you considered it was trying to look for a new/updated version of itself? :-) Not all phone home software is malicious. Actually, no. I am probably getting a little paranoid. The firewall also quarantines any suspicious mail attachments, but as mail client I use good ole' Navigator 4.54 anyway. Some of those You should switch to Thunderbird. I finally did last year and it's great. Yeah, you are right. Thunderbird looks pretty neat. I don't seem to be able to find the info on its website, so I am asking you: Can you use it as a newsgroup reader and can I import my mails from Navigator to it? attachments aim for weaknesses in OE, and my Navigator is simply too old to understand all that fancy stuff. Not true! In fact, your version has a documented vulnerability! I certainly didn't know that. And, to be honest, I am still sticking to NN 4.54 less for security reasons but because I'm so used to it ;-) No, that was a very old thing back in 1994-1996 and I don't think Americans have seen them since. I hope we can soon say the same about Germany. How did the US get rid of them? Disclaimer: I *am* a security engineer during the day ;-) This list sure has some added benefits ;-) If I may ask: Who do you work for? Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ok....melt wizard...
This is probably the nerdiest discussion I have read in a long time ;-) Marco Josh Lulewicz schrieb: I am sure this has been discussed before my time here on the list so hope no one minds. What is the game Josh Baskin is playing in the movie Big? It is NOT Wizard and the Princess! Was this something coded up specifically for the movie or is there such a game? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Funny typo
ROFLMAO, it just goes perfectly together with the corny description. I really don't LOL literally in front of the PC very often, but this just did it :-) Marco Dan Chisarick schrieb: Its a very long description, but the typo (about 2/3 of the way down) is priceless: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=1183item=3178965064 -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] spam?
No spam from the list here. Marco Jim Leonard schrieb: Is anyone seeing spam on the swcollect list? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Talking about rarity/value
Jim Leonard schrieb: I think his sarcasm is lost on you. I have known people like him (Dennis Courtney) and they are actually extremely funny and creative people. If you read his other comments, they're quite funny. You are right. I didn't read his other comments before I judged him. Now I'd say he is a little, uhm, eccentric ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Talking about rarity/value
BL schrieb: Whos this guy? He won an auction of mine, and left this for feedback - he as well as sniped me a couple of times, grr! :) Wondering if he is on this list.. Feedback: I belong to a very elite group of gamers and we all trade on Ebay! OH YES WE DO! Buyer eriqchang( 219) Isn't that a little childish and arrogant? Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Rarity Scale
Pedro Quaresma schrieb: I like the idea! S could also stand for Super-Unique, Special or even Super-Duper! ;) Oh silly me! I just now understood what Hugh meant with completing the acronym slaps head Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Rarity Scale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: That's the spirit, C.E.! I think we could at least start a running list and watch it grow over time. It has to start somewhere. I'll host it on GOTCHA unless somebody has a better suggestion. I can start with about 100 games I've searched for regularly on Ebay over the years. I have a pretty good feel for them in terms of availability. You guys could then go through and make comments where you think they're wrong. I've seen 50 of those on eBay in the last year...that's not rare. You can also grow the list with your own personal searches and experience. Do you think about using a CGI script? I'd like to base the CURIOUS Scale solely on a game's availability on on-line auctions. This represents the general availability to the buying public and is as good an indicator as I can think of. It would work like this: In the last 2 years, a complete (VG/VG or better) version of this game has appeared on an on-line auction approximately: 20 times or less = Rare 21 - 80 times = Uncommon More than 80 = Common You could put condition into the formula as a modifier. Imaginary, Unique and Oddity would have to be determined by the group. Hm, Imaginary - Not even a single appearance Unique - 5 times or less Oddity - Any game that was not a regular publication You could combine Oddity and the other gradings. Obviously this is based on complete speculation, but who would be better to speculate on it than us? Honestly, I think auction availability is a better indicator of availability than just about anything else (including production runs). Since it is an indicator of how many are for sale on the open market. Sure there may be a box of Drash's in a warehouse somewhere, but how many of us will ever have a chance to buy them? We won't...unless they show up on eBay. Well, any grading will always be subjective. We as individuals choose certain factors in our grading and collectively we can arrive at a common denominator that represents us as a group. Others might choose other factors. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Rarity Scale
Stephen Emond schrieb: For rarity knowing production numbers WOULD be great, but finding the original numbers would not be easy. It also wouldn't take into account how many copies exist today. It's hard to even imagine, but there are people out there who just toss old games in the dumpster - who would want a 25 year old game??? (Ok, you can put your hands down now...) As others mentioned, I don't think production numbers are that much important. What matters is what turns up on ebay, the one place accessible to all of us. They are probably thousands of Ataris E.T. catridges still buried in some desert in New Mexico, but they will never turn up on ebay - still you got a pretty high production number for that cartridge. If we include production numbers into a formula, we'd have to include many factors we can't determine: production number total, percentage of said production destroyed due to being not sold, sold but destroyed by owner, etc. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] PS:T on ebay
Thinking about our Modern Classics discussion recently, I just saw Planescape: Torment go for $64: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3072508588category=11050 Not bad for a fairly new game. And sure enough loads of 'em popped up after it :-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Rarity Scale
Hugh Falk schrieb: Common Uncommon Rare Imaginary Oddity Unique Shameless placeholder to complete acronym Better to have than having sex? ;-) Anyway, I know this is ambitious a lot more ambitious than the condition grading scale, but what do you think? Seriously, I think it's a pretty neat idea. Every member of this list could jude it on personal experience and you could calculate the mean and the median. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Legend closed
You may have heard it already, but Legend, the company run by former Infocommie Bob Bates and his partner Mike Verdu, has been shut down by its current publisher, Infogrames. The Legend now had only little to do with the adventure games they once developed, but it still is bad to see another great name go. Here's the news: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/unrealiise/news_6086665.html Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I don't have more specific data handy (out of town right now), but here is a breakdown of UK sales across all platforms: 1 - NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERGROUND 2 - GRAND THEFT AUTO: DOUBLE PACK 3 - THE SIMPSONS: HIT RUN 4 - FIFA 2004 5 - LORD OF THE RINGS: RETURN OF THE KING 6 - NORTON INTERNET SECURITY 2004 7 - THE SIMS: BUSTIN' 8 - MEDAL OF HONOR: RISING SUN 9 - TONY HAWK'S UNDERGROUND 10 - TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 2004 Note that EA has 6 of the top 10 slots. Hey I love big boxes too and can make lots of comments about game quality, but it isn't hurting EA's sales in the least. Sorry to be the messenger...don't shoot me. You are correct there, but I meant PC sales specifically. And, of course, box and documentation is probably one of the reasons that influences a customer's decision to buy, but not the only one. It would be interesting to get the numbers for the cross platform titles broken down to each platform. No argument here that the console business is doing much better than the PC business right now. There are always exceptions (Sims, Blizzard games, etc.), but it will likely stay this way until closer to the end of this console cycle, and may never end. It's kinda like a spiral of death: Development of PC titles costs more than development for consoles - companies develop for consoles first and just try 1:1 conversions for the PC - PC players feel no inclination to buy games badly converted for their system - PC sales slump down - companies feel even less inclination to develop for the PC. As I said, box and packaging is just a factor in this equation, but one that shouldn't be forgotten, at least on the PC. Pirating a console game is usually harder or sometimes even impossible and normally also requires modifications to the hardware. A much larger percentage of the console audience, compared to the PC audience, doesn't seem to be willing to or not capable of going through with this. The PC crowd however knows where to get a game via P2P within days. They apply a crack and there you go. What reason do they have to buy a game? Give them something they can't download. But with console sales this fantastic, why should anyone care about the PC anyway? EA is doing very well, just as you said, and it's not thanks to the PC. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Bah, ebay/paypal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Just won an item on ebay. The email I received from the seller must have gone through ebay as it contained this message. [Image] Never pay for your item with an instant cash transfer service such as MoneyGram or Western Union. These services are like sending cash to a stranger - they are an extremely unsafe way to pay. Hell yeah, PayPal is so much safer! :) Irritates me, as an honest seller I like Western Union auction payments as I am protected against scamming/payment reversing buyers. To me ebay is just trying to make sure people use paypal (so they can make even more money) which is in fact unsafe, for sellers especially. Are you sure this was added by ebay? I'm no lawyer, but it may be a very questionable business practice. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics
Jim Leonard schrieb: It's not the calculators: It's what makes money. You shouldn't be scared that accountants and suits are ruining the industry; instead, you should be scared that the core sales of most computer and console gaming are the way they are. It is a hard pill to swallow that adventure games simply don't sell enough units to make a profit. True. It's only that once upon a time the profit didn't matter as much. You could singlehandedly or in a duo write a game and find a publisher easy enough, even if your game was totally obscure. Nowadays profit is the prime directive and who knows better about profits than the suits? Those managers sure know a thing about finances, but apparently not much about how the creative side of this industry works. For example, whoever adviced EA to ship games in DVD cases immediately cut down production costs, but failed to realize it'll lower the number of units sold, as there won't be much left that distinguishes a bought game from a warez version. It is the same as with the music industry: Some managers found that instead of expensive talent scouting and sponsoring bands that might fail, they should simply manufacture boy- and girlgroups, who specifically cater to the target audience that spends the most money on its idols and music: teenagers. Now the music industry blames P2P for the slump in music sales, instead of realizing we had one too many Boyzone, Westlife, Backstreet Boys, N'Sync et. al., and no real talent in the charts for some time. Imagine Meat Loaf trying to get a record contract these days. There are a *few* sequels, maybe 5 a year, that are indeed worth playing. I just recently finished Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando, and it was a surprisingly deep game with a lot of replay value. But that is the exception. True again. What also irks me as a PC gamer these days is that we are mostly given gruesome console ports. Most recent example there being Deux Ex: Invisible War. The game may be perfect for the Xbox and its audience, on the PC the graphics, the simplified story and character generation, the idiotic UI and the lack of any depth is horrifying. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
Brian the Fist schrieb: I always like to throw a bone in the gears.. It's not so hard to get access to a shrinkwrap machine. How do you know, if you get a shrinkwrapped game, that it is in the ORIGINAL shrinkwrap? Especially if there are no price tags or anything. If you never open it, how would you ever know? Carbon dating? The pungent odour? To me it is absurd to collect shrinkwrapped games at not open them - you're just opening yourself wide to scammers (not that I'd ever do that.. dum-de-dum..) Anyhow, when I get a shrinkwrapped game (rarely) the shrinkwrap is the first thing to go (unless I'm reselling it of course). When it comes to Infocom games I am pretty certain I can tell a rewrap from an original one. It's not only that I know what the shrink looked like that was used by Infocom, but there are other telltale signs as well: dust particles under the shrink, edgewear where there shouldn't be any, fingerprints, etc. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics
Feldhamer, Stuart schrieb: It doesn't seem odd to me...Legend has abandoned its core competency - adventure games. IIRC Legend didn't have much choice. In the mid-90s the adventure market started to run dry and Legend had to move 3D in order to survive. Later they apparently also couldn't by themselves cope with the increasingly huge production costs per title and if GT Interactive hadn't stepped in, there might have been no more Legend Ent. much earlier. The pity in all this is that the 3D titles Legend did at first weren't exactly bad, but overlooked. And when Infogrames later bought GT Interactive, Legend wasn't much more than a name under many and the consequences we see now. I'm not sure I like all this concentration. We are almost at the point where only a few publishers dominate the market, because only heavyweights can afford to develop a game nowadays. And because these heavyweights have to make sure that a title gets in the production costs, we will see more and more games with a 2, 3, 4, 5 in the title and as much appeal to the mass market as possible. Creativity and originality is only an afterthought, once the calculators rule over the creative department of a gaming company. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
Stefan Lindblom schrieb: Hello group, My name is Stefan and I am gamoholic. :) I need some advice, preferrably from someone who knows what a NEW copy of Wasteland should look like. I have included a picture of a game I just bought. He declared it to be NEW, and said he got this one for christmas 88-89, but that he already had the game so he never played this one. It's definitely not new. When I bought my Wasteland fifteen years ago it was shrinked and there was no tape holding the disk sleeves together. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
Per-Olof Karlsson schrieb: I support this view too. Shrinkwrapped items to me are interesting mainly because I know it's all in the box, and if mint also that it's all in perfect condition. Other than that, I'm not too interested. I can be found removing the shrink when I'm curious enough and don't have an open copy around. As long as my game is in excellent condition and complete, I'm happy! I do keep many of them still in wrap due to the financial aspect of things, but I wouldn't be too surprised if this attitude would go away much like it did with comic books. If you can't see what's inside, look at the stuff that came with it, then what's the point? Other than being an investment, I see no reason at all to keep it in shrinkwrap. Well, I kinda see it as preserving a legacy. How many originally shrinked versions of a game will be around in fifty years? Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] DOSBox: Getting DOS games to run easily
Edward Franks schrieb: Here's a slightly different link http://www.glidos.net/ for those of you who would like to play some Glide-based (3Dfx) games. I haven't purchased the full version, but Redguard worked for me with the demo version. The site also has a link to OpenGLide http://openglide.sourceforge.net/ on the Red Baron information page. (Getting Red Baron to run is a freebie.) Yup, managed to pick up Redguard a while ago and successfully ran it with Glidos. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics
Jim Leonard schrieb: (Ironically, Wheel of Time, a game based on a Robert Jordan novel, is actually a very good game. The ancientspeak is thick and heavy but since it's an action adventure it's not as irritating.) Although commercially it failed, IIRC. It was by Legend, wasn't it? Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Paranoid seller and tax evasion
Lee K. Seitz schrieb: Marco Thorek stated: Lee K. Seitz schrieb: Well, I *would* draw a distinction between *trading* games and *buying* them. I dislike the thought of being taxed for non-cash transactions. I tried to argue the same to a customs officer. His reasoning was that I paid by sending my game. Can you argue with that? No. I didn't say my argument was logical or that any government official (regardless of which government we're talking about) would agree with me. It's just how I feel about it. Actually I meant it rhetorical and ironical, Lee, as in you can't argue with the logic of a government representative. The blessings of a text-based medium ;-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another visitor..
Welcome aboard, Per-Olaf! Marco Per-Olof Karlsson schrieb: Hi everybody! J Im a newcomer to this list, and have just spent quite some time browsing the archives. It seems Ive finally found home, at last, hehe. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] DOSBox: Getting DOS games to run easily
Jim Leonard schrieb: I've been tinkering with this for a month now and have had such great success that I thought I'd inform everyone about it: dosbox.sourceforge.net Wow! Thanks a bunch for this link! Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics
Jim Leonard schrieb: Marco Thorek wrote: I'm not sure if we had this topic before, but what modern games, say, developed after 1994, would you consider collectible? Collectible meaning high monetary/trade value or game worth owning until end of time because it is a *good* game? In this case high monetary value. I loved the Ultima series, but you could pull my nails and I wouldn't say that U9 was a great game. Still U9's Dragon Edition seems to be looked for. For value there are the common answers: Ultima compilations, Elder Scrolls series, Neverhood. Elder Scrolls, ok, but value you'll only get for the titles before 1994. Redguard and Morrowind are already pretty common. May we say that most titles nowadays are produced in too large numbers to ever become collectible? I just picked up CDs and manuals only (no box) for $14. I've heard it's great. Oh, definitely. You'll really be in for a treat. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value
Edward Franks schrieb: It is a cassette where Richard Garriott talks about the first time years of Ultima. Is it an audio tape, as Jim hints? At first I thought it may be a video and the same that came as mpg with the Ultima collection. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics
Jim Leonard schrieb: Pedro Quaresma wrote: Please don't get me started on Planeboring: Torment. That game should never have been a RPG. Ah yes, Pedro, our resident RPG snob. ;-) If Planescape: Torment is a bad RPG by your standards, could you explain why? Is it all the dialog, or bad structure, or what? Now, that'd interest me too. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Modern classics
I'm not sure if we had this topic before, but what modern games, say, developed after 1994, would you consider collectible? There's only a very few that come to my mind: - The Dragon Edition of Ultima IX. Although it was the worst Ultima IMHO, people seem to look for this edition. - Planescape: Torment. Due to the lack of sales back then, hence comparably small quantities are available, and the legendary status it is gaining ever since, many people now seem to try to get a hold of it. Personally I consider it the greatest RPG I played so far. - Independence War (or I-War). Another game that was largely overlooked and is now being sought for its status as the most realistic space simulation. And that's already where my list ends. There may be other games; the above are only those I personally own and who I follow losely via their fanbase and on ebay. Collector's editions may also come to mind, but as I saw a Baldur's Gate II collector's edition go on ebay for about $25 just recently, that may not be a decisive criteria. Do you know any other? Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value
Edward Franks schrieb: It is the Ultima VI special edition with the 10 years of Ultima cassette. What is the 10 years of Ultima cassette? Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value
Edward Franks schrieb: That reminds me of the old economic chestnut: While not everything scarce is valuable, everything valuable is scarce. Had never heard that one. Very neat! :-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value
Stephane Racle schrieb: I still remember that $2000 Starcross saucer very well! Although IMO, someone drove up the price on that one... although if I recall, the buyer was more than happy with the result. Oh yes, I remember that one, too. It was sealed, wasn't it? Still, $2000 is way more than I'd have been willing to shell out for it. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value
Stephane Racle schrieb: Interesting. Perhaps very few copies were published since it was the last of the four Infocomics and the other ones had relatively little success? Yup. The Infocomics weren't exactly successful, so production was stopped after they'd rolled out comparatively small numbers of ZQ2. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value
Edward Franks schrieb: So, to revisit a discussion, how do the rest of you try to estimate the market value of these types of games? What would, say, the first release of Zork -- the PDP-11 version -- be worth? This is really the hard part of being a dealer of collectibles. What is your thought process in determining the market value of a collectible? I once spent $35 for a hard to come by Cornerstone brochure. Jokingly I asked the guy I bought it from if he didn't think I was insane and he told me he had just sold the empty retail box of an original Mac for $600. So far I think it is personal interest that determines the value; Although most of us probably sometimes resell, I'd say we all also are collectors and use the profit to invest in our hobby. This of course will change should our hobby really move into the direction art collecting has taken, where paintings are seen as an investment. For my personal resales I go by the prices I see on other auctions. A PDP-11 Zork I'd estimate at $3000-$6000. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Happy Holidays!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Turn on speaks and let it load, run until night turns to day again. When it is done don't forget to click on the poem at the bottom!! Holidays 2003 Have a good one!! Thanks Tom! And a very Merry Christmas to all of you, too! Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Vintage games w/fatal flaws
Jim Leonard schrieb: Is this the same game? http://www.c64unlimited.net/games/f/Fabulous%20Wanda,%20The/Fabulous%20Wanda,%20The.htm Indeed it is. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]
Pedro Quaresma schrieb: Agreed wholeheartedly, but which companies care about that these days? How many games in the last few years have had a decent manual + props other than on a special or collectors edition? I can't recall any. Even very complicated games like Microsoft's FS9, who really should come with adequate printed documentation, have most of it on the CD only. And Knight's of the Old Republic, being a CRPG, who usually have and need bigger manuals, comes with nothing more than a couple of pages that explain the basics. But about the collector's editions you mentioned: Nice way of selling us for extra money what once upon a time we got in the first place. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Vintage games w/fatal flaws
Pedro Quaresma schrieb: OK let's see if my memory doesn't betray me (again!) It was Ultima 4, but veramocor was the word used to get into the final dungeon, not the word to be used in the end of it. In the end, the word infinity had to be used (after the principles and its virtues), but if you typed the wrong word you'd get kicked back to the surface. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. It's been quite some time since I played Ultima 4. I think that's pretty much correct. BTW, anyone remember The Fabulous Wanda? Must have been from 1983/84. You stranded on some planet and had to find this woman, who knew the answer to life, the universe and the rest. It was written in BASIC and unfinishable, if you didn't alter the listing yourself. Although I'm not sure if that was by intention or just bad programming. I have to admit, until I found that out I had fun with the game :-) Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] [Fwd: Re: 5.25 disks?]
Edward Franks schrieb: Gamasutra had an interesting article http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20011017/dodd_01.htm -- you may need to register on Gamasutra to read it -- on the developer's attempts to simply slowdown the cracking of Spyro: Year of the Dragon. Their goal was simply to try to keep pirates from cracking the game for the first few months of the game's sale life (when up to half the sales of the game occur). The idea that came across was that they realized that the crackers would eventually win, so all the developers could do is try to slow them down. It included allowing partial cracks to work for a while, so that if you didn't play the game for 10 to 12 hours you might think your crack worked. It is a bizarre world when developers spend so much time trying to make a game work correctly and then turn around and break their own game. I doubt that it made much of a difference. A good enough coder can quickly identify any subroutine depending on the protection. IMHO the best copy protection still is a neat box, a nice and sufficient manual and some props to go along. If all you get is a DVD case and a PDF manual on the CD, most people don't see enough physical evidence of the game's worth, compared to what is readily available on the net. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Platypus stamps on ebay
Just noticed this auction on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3057624802category=4315 and I wonder if Brian Moriarty himself has his hands in it. AFAIK Brian still works for Skotos Tech, which apparently has some serious financial trouble. Perhaps he is selling some of his own Infocom memorabilia to keep the company going. If that is the case we might see some more rare items coming up. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Elite questions
Heah Lee, Lee K. Seitz schrieb: Also, I've never seen a copy of the original Elite before. It says it's the gold edition. Does that make it unusual or do they all say that? Is it worth trying to sell on eBay? Or is anyone here interested in it? IIRC the C64 Elite I got for Christmas in 1986 said the same, just like all other versions. I also remember that already back then I didn't understand what this gold edition business meant, as all versions seemed to be the same. Have a look here, http://www.x-speed.de/computer/elite/elite_version.html and note that all 8-bit versions say gold edition. Nonetheless you can go ahead and sell it and it should bring some good profit. A complete Elite can sell for $30-$50. The Elite Plus is a later version that featured VGA graphics. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] The Definitive Infocom Collection
Chris is gonna have a fit over this ;-) Look here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3055030744category=11053 Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Refund with paypal
Hello Stefan, I had something similar happen while ago, although it was only about $20. I don't remember PayPal's exact regulations and terms of service there, but as an international user you are pretty much licked, as you are exempt from any of their so-called guarantees. Marco Stefan Lindblom schrieb: Hey guys, Some time ago there was a discussion.. hmm, think it was Tom who had sold something for 88$, gotten the money, then the buyer had somehow.. umm.. claimed some kind of refund via Paypal, I dont remember the term used. Now I wonder... how do you that thing? Cause.. I bought something on Ebay about 6 weeks ago, paid my 86$ for it via paypal, everything fine so far. Now... still havent received what I ordered and when I try to contact the seller my mail bounces with a user unknown. Suggestions on how I should progress here? Or instructions or how to reclaim my money would be appreciated. /Stefan -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Hello!
Hello Josh, a warm welcome from me, too! Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I just subscribed (thank you Chris for making me aware of this group). Just wanted to extend a Hello to all the members and introduce the latest addition to my collection.?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office / -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Coin identification
Google turned this up: http://dmweb.free.fr/CSBManualOld.htm So the coin is indeed from a Dungeon Master game. Marco Hugh Falk schrieb: Sorry for including attachements, but I was hoping somebody could identify this coin for me. It came loose in a large box of Amiga and PC games. It may have come from one of the games or maybe not. On the heads side it says GOR on the bottom. On the tails side it says Danger Thus Reveals its Face and has several runes. (There is also a bird picture on each side of the Danger text.) The art reminds me of Dungeon Master, which was in the box along with Chaos Strikes Back, but I don't remember those coming with a coin (and my other copies are in storage). Any clues? Hugh Name: Coin 1.jpg Coin 1.jpgType: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) Encoding: base64 Name: Coin 2.jpg Coin 2.jpgType: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) Encoding: base64 -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ultima 11
You can't imagine how much I believed that my first car had a soul. Still up to today I feel like I somehow betrayed it when I finally had to give it away. And I too prefer to fix things instead of giving up on them. Perhaps that is a trait common to software collectors. Oh well, as long as I don't live in a self-created junkyard things should be ok ;-) Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Interesting, that is my belief also. That is why I hate to waste anything and find it so hard to throw anything away. Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ultima 11
The Japanese believe that everything has a soul. So if that is so, I guess that any game in its right mind knows where it'll have a good home ;-) Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: It's the game, drawing us to it. I've long speculated that we don't find the games, the games find US. B-) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Ebay trader experiences
Hm, I remember years back I found SWM through their website and sent them an email because I wanted to buy some of the stuff they had listed. They actually never replied. When I saw them selling via ebay for prices higher than what their website offered I knew why. Eventually I bought one item from them via ebay and have to second what Chris said: They know a shrinked item is worth more. But if proper identification of a game as being reshrinked or originally shrinked is due to a lack of experience on their end, I don't know. Their item descriptions to me sometimes seem a little hazy by purpose. I also think I remember that communication with them was very limited and that they way overcharged on international shipping costs. Marco Stefan Lindblom schrieb: Ahoy mates! Just curious about a certain trader on Ebay who seems to be alot into vintage games, with over a 1000 feedbacks. The traders Ebay name and mailadress is [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I was just wondering if any of you have had any experiences with him/her/them.. and if so, what they are? The reason I ask.. well, I won a few of their auctions, including a high prized SSI one. I was outbid on one however, but was approached later by them asking if I wanted to pay my highest bid for another copy they had. My highest bid was more than double the listed starting price so I asked if we could come an agreement with would mean a 7$(from 32$ to 25$) cut in my offer. Listing price was 15$ so I thought that was a fair offer. No risks for them, no time waiting, and no ebay fees. I got a very short and rude reply. Surely more than one of you guys have dealt with them before.. what have your experiences been? /Stefan, wearing out the hangover in front of comp -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Lost Treasures of Infocom inventory
Lee K. Seitz schrieb: This is all very interesting, but do I take it since no one's answered my question, I'm not missing anything and should be thankful to have the ZZ parchment reproduction? Sorry, Lee, it seems we got carried away a little. Yes, as Chris said, your copy should be complete. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Lost Treasures of Infocom inventory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: No, it wasn't. The original parchment in ZZ looked like an actual scrap of paper, with uneven edges, etc, plus the printing was in color. The LTOI version was like a Slash reproduction on white paper. I can't say for sure which packages have the parchment and which don't. It seems to be about half and half. That of course shatters my theory. Amazing that Activision bothered to reproduce the parchment at all, when you remember how bad the pdf files were that came with the Masterpieces. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Help with Zork Classics
I recently received this email, but don't have the Zork Classics CD. If any of you know how to help this guy, could you please answer him? Thanks, Marco Betreff: Inquiry Datum: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:27:22 +0200 Von: Josh-Pruitt Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Whom It May Concern: I recently purchased a copy of the Zork Classics CD Rom only to find that it will not function on Windows XP. Are there any patches available or is there anything else that I can do that will make the CD playable on my computer or can you direct me to someone who can answer these questions? Any help that you can provide in this matter will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Josh-Pruitt Mayfield -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Paypal protection plan
They become trickier on all accounts (literally): I remember back when I signed up, there was something about them charging $1 to your credit card and when you received your credit card bill, you had to enter a code given in the PayPal position to activate your account. Back then that dollar was put into your PayPal account balance, now they apparently keep it. Neat, huh? 1000 sign-ups = $1000. Marco Lee K. Seitz schrieb: [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: recently I had guy in UK signup using my link. We were both supposed to get $5 bonus. BUT paypal says for us to get the bonuses he has to transfer $250 into his paypal acct first. And has to be from bank account. And has to be US bank account. Paypal's policy for getting the $5 bonus has gotten worse and worse as time goes one. At first, you had to do very little to get it. (Verify your address, I think.) Then you had to add a checking account. Now you've got to add $250. I'm glad I got my $5 when I did, because I wouldn't get it if I signed up now. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Paypal protection plan
I just found a very neat Register article regarding the PayPal Money Back Guarantee, which is really worth a read: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31534.html It ends with this paragraph: This is just one very small story of hundreds dotted all over the Internet. And these stories will continue until either a) the law changes to pull in PayPal and force it to follow the laws and regulations everyone else is subjected to or b) people learn the fine distinction between PayPal and the institutions they instinctively trust. Yup, quite right. Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Note the part about SIGNATURE CONFIRMATION, delivery confirm not enough in some cases. If anyone decides to can paypal let me know, would warm my heart, they should not get away with this crap :) The transaction(s) did not qualify for Seller Protection because: -You were unable to provide tracking information. For transactions $500 or more in value that are initiated between November 15, 2001 and April 19, 2002, and for transactions $250 or more in value that are initiated on or after April 19, 2002, the seller also needs to provide an online proof-of-receipt in the form of a signature from the buyer. The signature is part of the proof-of-delivery service provided by most U.S. carrier companies, including the U.S. Postal Service. Because comparable proof-of-shipment is not currently available for electronically-delivered items, we are currently unable to offer Seller Protection for digital goods and other electronically-delivered items -Virtual items are not covered under our Seller Protection Policy Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
