Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
On Jun 8, 2004, at 4:42 PM, Jim Leonard wrote: [Snip] I was going for expensive/old :-) Okay, replace Starcross with Michael Berlyn's Cyborg ($150+ last I checked). Anyway, I'm sure people got the idea. Oh, sure, but I couldn't help making the comment. It's the classic 'Oops, I picked the wrong game' mistake I think everyone makes one time or another. :) [Snip] Agreed, but some people don't understand this. When I pirate a 20+ year old game to try it out, people sometimes tell me that I'm short-changing the author -- what, like buying a 2nd-hand copy on ebay gives the author money? Very true. After awhile it gets to be amusing to see people on *both* sides using the same argument to buttress their position. Most of the piracy arguments have practically fossilized. It's like watching a ritualized exchange with the vast bulk of the arguments falling into a few groupings. -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Pedro Quaresma wrote: Would this be legal? :) If so I have no problem of trying to rip .mp3 files from it and ftp-ing them to you. No, not legal at all, so if you want to decline on that basis I completely understand. I'm just gathering up files for a game music streaming radio station I'd like to run someday (plus I'd like to hear the music on the disc -- I wonder if they remastered it in any way, or if it's just MT-32 output from the games themselves). MP3 is totally fine (I prefer lame --preset standard or other similar VBR, but CBR 192K or higher is okay). If you're willing to do this, email me for FTP site upload to make it easy for you. And thanks :) -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that this is as illegal as copying *ANY* music file. Why doesn't Jim just bid on it, and then he can do what he wants with the music? Because it wouldn't be any more legal that way (I have no explicit permission from Origin to stream the music). In all honesty, I just want to hear it. I have no intention of collecting it. I'm not a fan of the music per se, I just want to hear how it turned out. I can see a morality issue coming, so I'm going to head it off: For older games that you are curious about, do you download a copy to try, or do you spend $150 or more to collect a copy you can open and play? For example, I have never played Starcross and would like to give it a try. Should I spend crazy amounts of money for a Starcross collectable, knowing that any money I spend will never get back to the people who made it (and the collectable itself will go down in value when I open it to get at the disk), or should I just download a copy and try it out? Hopefully you agree the latter is the more practical choice. Before anyone accuses me of being a pirate, I own 600+ new and collectable games. I also own 100+ music CDs and 100+ DVDs. I do buy things, you know :-) I just don't feel I need to collect something just to give it a shot. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Of course, your alternative is to petition your local radio station to play the Origin soundtrack. :) Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that this is as illegal as copying *ANY* music file. Why doesn't Jim just bid on it, and then he can do what he wants with the music? Because it wouldn't be any more legal that way (I have no explicit permission from Origin to stream the music). In all honesty, I just want to hear it. I have no intention of collecting it. I'm not a fan of the music per se, I just want to hear how it turned out. I can see a morality issue coming, so I'm going to head it off: For older games that you are curious about, do you download a copy to try, or do you spend $150 or more to collect a copy you can open and play? For example, I have never played Starcross and would like to give it a try. Should I spend crazy amounts of money for a Starcross collectable, knowing that any money I spend will never get back to the people who made it (and the collectable itself will go down in value when I open it to get at the disk), or should I just download a copy and try it out? Hopefully you agree the latter is the more practical choice. Before anyone accuses me of being a pirate, I own 600+ new and collectable games. I also own 100+ music CDs and 100+ DVDs. I do buy things, you know :-) I just don't feel I need to collect something just to give it a shot. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
: Why doesn't Jim just bid on it, and then he can do what he wants with the music?:Because it wouldn't be any more legal that way (I have no explicit permission :from Origin to stream the music). I confess I'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of streaming, but do you really need EA's permission to do so? (Origin no longer exists even in UO server-farm form.) Wouldn't this considered a "permitted use" of the media? Outwardly, at least, it seems no different than playing a song on the radio. I played hundreds back in my DJ years and I'm sure I didn't have (or need) anyone's permission to play any of 'em. Or have the ground rules changed since the '70s and '80s? Peter Peter
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Peter Olafson wrote: I confess I'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of streaming, but do you really need EA's permission to do so? (Origin no longer exists even in UO server-farm form.) Wouldn't this considered a permitted use of the media? Just because the founding copyright holder no longer exists doesn't mean that *somebody* doesn't own the copyright. In fact, I think it's obvious that Electronic Arts owns all of Origin's Ultima and Wing Commander intellectual properties. I'm sure that if I wrote a Wing Commander-like game, with WC properties (Kilrathi, Tiger's Claw, etc.) and used the string Wing Commander somewhere in the title, that I would get sued even if I wasn't selling the thing. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Feldhamer, Stuart wrote: On another note, I don't know if sharing the MP3 files with Jim is necessarily illegal. It may be covered under fair use laws, like making a copy of a tape for a friend. It's only covered under Fair Use if you make a backup copy for *yourself*. If you give that copy to a friend, then you'd have to make a really strong argument that the copy was off-site storage for disaster recovery or else it doesn't hold up. Dan C. and other former pirates^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hsoftware reverse-engineer hobbyists will agree with me that current/former software pirates know the most about copyright and intellectual property laws without actually being lawyers. :-D -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 01:35:44PM -0400, Feldhamer, Stuart wrote: I think radio broadcasters have contracts with the RIAA where they pay a small fee for the right to broadcast music. Actually, they license the broadcast rights to songs from ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC. http://www.ascap.com/licensing/radio/radiofaq.html http://www.bmi.com/licensing/business/generalfaq.asp http://www.sesac.com/licensing/broadcast_licensing_faq1.asp On another note, I don't know if sharing the MP3 files with Jim is necessarily illegal. It may be covered under fair use laws, like making a copy of a tape for a friend. As long as it isn't spread all over the Internet, that is. I hate to tell you this, but fair use does *not* cover making a copy of a tape for a friend. That's (technically) illegal. Fair use covers things like making a tape from a CD. As long as you keep the CD, you can play the tape for your own personal use. At least this is the case is the United States. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
I didn't say no one held the copyright. I just meant the Origin's no longerin the game and that thepermission issue would rest with EA.
But I do think it's worthexploring the "fair use" question and, failing that,whether there's an Internet equivalent of the RIAA (which someone else mentioned) that could address issues relating to Internet radio broadcast of CDs. Perhaps it's a simple affair.
PeterJim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Olafson wrote: I confess I'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of streaming, but do you really need EA's permission to do so? (Origin no longer exists even in UO server-farm form.) Wouldn't this considered a "permitted use" of the media?Just because the founding copyright holder no longer exists doesn't mean that *somebody* doesn't own the copyright. In fact, I think it's obvious that Electronic Arts owns all of Origin's Ultima and Wing Commander intellectual properties. I'm sure that if I wrote a Wing Commander-like game, with WC properties ("Kilrathi", "Tiger's Claw", etc.) and used the string "Wing Commander" somewhere in the title, that I would get sued even if I wasn't selling the thing.-- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.c!
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Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Peter Olafson wrote: But I do think it's worth exploring the fair use question and, failing that, whether there's an Internet equivalent of the RIAA (which someone else mentioned) that could address issues relating to Internet radio broadcast of CDs. Perhaps it's a simple affair. Nothing is in place currently, however the RIAA prosecutes anyone found streaming video it did not pay them a license for. So I don't think I'll have a problem streaming video/computer game music. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
On Jun 8, 2004, at 12:00 PM, Jim Leonard wrote: [Snip] I can see a morality issue coming, so I'm going to head it off: For older games that you are curious about, do you download a copy to try, or do you spend $150 or more to collect a copy you can open and play? For example, I have never played Starcross and would like to give it a try. Should I spend crazy amounts of money for a Starcross collectable, knowing that any money I spend will never get back to the people who made it (and the collectable itself will go down in value when I open it to get at the disk), or should I just download a copy and try it out? Hopefully you agree the latter is the more practical choice. I just want to point out you used a couple of bad examples. ;-) You can get a legal, playable copy of Starcross very cheaply. As little as $5, even. If you want to play a particular _release_ of Starcross (too experience the original bugs, I guess) you can grab the diffs and patch your existing legit version to whichever release you heart desires. Also, in the US, the First Sale Doctrine establishes that once you sell something (as the maker) that's all the money you're going to get. A maker has no right to get more money on the sale of used items. That's like saying it would be wrong to buy a used or out of print book because the author wouldn't get any money. -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Edward Franks wrote: I just want to point out you used a couple of bad examples. ;-) I was going for expensive/old :-) Okay, replace Starcross with Michael Berlyn's Cyborg ($150+ last I checked). Anyway, I'm sure people got the idea. Also, in the US, the First Sale Doctrine establishes that once you sell something (as the maker) that's all the money you're going to get. A maker has no right to get more money on the sale of used items. That's like saying it would be wrong to buy a used or out of print book because the author wouldn't get any money. Agreed, but some people don't understand this. When I pirate a 20+ year old game to try it out, people sometimes tell me that I'm short-changing the author -- what, like buying a 2nd-hand copy on ebay gives the author money? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
I don't know if you could. It wasn't created by a music publisher that the RIAA or any of the fee-collection agencies have an agreement with, was it? Put another way, I make a music CD on my own, and I sell it in a few local stores. A DJ from a local radio station (say its owned by Clearwater Communications, they own what, 33% of all the radio stations in America or some ridiculous number) buys it any plays it on the air. I never made an agreement with anyone negotiating how much I'd ask for for playing my music. Does everyone get the same flat fee and magically a check just appears in my mailbox with *no* agreement whatsoever and that's the end of that, all legal and tidy? That doesn't sound right, but I know just about nothing about this process. PS - If I did make a music CD and a large radio station did play it, I probably wouldn't complain too loudly. Their listeners on the other hand, that's another story... On Jun 8, 2004, at 1:11 PM, Feldhamer, Stuart wrote: Of course, your alternative is to petition your local radio station to play the Origin soundtrack. :) Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that this is as illegal as copying *ANY* music file. Why doesn't Jim just bid on it, and then he can do what he wants with the music? Because it wouldn't be any more legal that way (I have no explicit permission from Origin to stream the music). In all honesty, I just want to hear it. I have no intention of collecting it. I'm not a fan of the music per se, I just want to hear how it turned out. I can see a morality issue coming, so I'm going to head it off: For older games that you are curious about, do you download a copy to try, or do you spend $150 or more to collect a copy you can open and play? For example, I have never played Starcross and would like to give it a try. Should I spend crazy amounts of money for a Starcross collectable, knowing that any money I spend will never get back to the people who made it (and the collectable itself will go down in value when I open it to get at the disk), or should I just download a copy and try it out? Hopefully you agree the latter is the more practical choice. Before anyone accuses me of being a pirate, I own 600+ new and collectable games. I also own 100+ music CDs and 100+ DVDs. I do buy things, you know :-) I just don't feel I need to collect something just to give it a shot. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Would this be legal? :) If so I have no problem of trying to rip .mp3 files from it and ftp-ing them to you. I won't send you a copy of the CD overseas though as customs might get me in trouble... -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO) Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04-06-2004 18:08 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect For anyone who already has this: Is anyone willing to make a copy of this for me? I am working on a streaming radio station of game music, and I would like to have selections from this be a part of it, but I would rather avoid spending $120 just to get the music (I am not an Origin collector). Pedro Quaresma wrote: Yes these are particularly rare. Or were at least :) These are the fabled Origin Soundtrack Vol. 1 we talked about a month ago. -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO) Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! *Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 03-06-2004 16:53 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Are these particularly rare? I wouldn't imagine this fetching a lot, but then again I'm not an Origin devotee so I wouldn't know. I bought the Rocket Ranger comic book (an item in a similar vein) for $2, for example... Pedro Quaresma wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings:http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings:http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt
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I believe that this is as illegal as copying *ANY* music file. Why doesn't Jim just bid on it, and then he can do what he wants with the music? From: Pedro Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/07 Mon AM 10:56:08 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! Would this be legal? :) If so I have no problem of trying to rip .mp3 files from it and ftp-ing them to you. I won't send you a copy of the CD overseas though as customs might get me in trouble... -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO) Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04-06-2004 18:08 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect For anyone who already has this: Is anyone willing to make a copy of this for me? I am working on a streaming radio station of game music, and I would like to have selections from this be a part of it, but I would rather avoid spending $120 just to get the music (I am not an Origin collector). Pedro Quaresma wrote: Yes these are particularly rare. Or were at least :) These are the fabled Origin Soundtrack Vol. 1 we talked about a month ago. -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO) Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! *Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 03-06-2004 16:53 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Are these particularly rare? I wouldn't imagine this fetching a lot, but then again I'm not an Origin devotee so I wouldn't know. I bought the Rocket Ranger comic book (an item in a similar vein) for $2, for example... Pedro Quaresma wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt Would this be legal? :) If so I have no problem of trying to rip .mp3 files from it and ftp-ing them to you. I won't send you a copy of the CD overseas though as customs might get me in trouble... -- Pedro R
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
In Canada, this would be legal. Quick, you still have time to move, Jim. ;-) Stephane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that this is as illegal as copying *ANY* music file. Why doesn't Jim just bid on it, and then he can do what he wants with the music? From: "Pedro Quaresma" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/07 Mon AM 10:56:08 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! Would this be legal? :) If so I have no problem of trying to rip .mp3 files from it and ftp-ing them to you. I won't send you a copy of the CD overseas though as customs might get me in trouble... -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informao / Systems and Information Division Administrao e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., "Esperanza" 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO) Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04-06-2004 18:08 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect For anyone who already has this: Is anyone willing to make a copy of this for me? I am working on a streaming radio station of game music, and I would like to have selections from this be a part of it, but I would rather avoid spending $120 just to get the music (I am not an Origin collector). Pedro Quaresma wrote: Yes these are particularly rare. Or were at least :) These are the "fabled" Origin Soundtrack Vol. 1 we talked about a month ago. -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informao / Systems and Information Division Administrao e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., "Esperanza" 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO) Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! *Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 03-06-2004 16:53 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Are these particularly rare? I wouldn't imagine this fetching a lot, but then again I'm not an Origin devotee so I wouldn't know. I bought the Rocket Ranger comic book (an item in a similar vein) for $2, for example... Pedro Quaresma wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informao / Systems and Information Division Administrao e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., "Esperanza" 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt Would this be legal? :) If so I have no problem of trying to rip .mp3 files from it and ftp-ing them to you. I won't send you a copy of the CD overseas though a
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Yes these are particularly rare. Or were at least :) These are the fabled Origin Soundtrack Vol. 1 we talked about a month ago. -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO) Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03-06-2004 16:53 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Are these particularly rare? I wouldn't imagine this fetching a lot, but then again I'm not an Origin devotee so I wouldn't know. I bought the Rocket Ranger comic book (an item in a similar vein) for $2, for example... Pedro Quaresma wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings:http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt
RE: [SWCollect] Another one?!
As
Inspector Clouseauwould say, "Not anymore..."
Stuart
-Original Message-From: MASTER
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pedro
QuaresmaSent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:40 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Another
one?!Yes these are
particularly rare. Or were at least :) These are the "fabled" Origin
Soundtrack Vol. 1 we talked about a month ago.--Pedro R.
QuaresmaSalvador Caetano IMVTDiv. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and
Information DivisionAdministração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes /
Lotus Notes Administration and
Development[EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext.
3492)Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km.,
"Esperanza"'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow
old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes
Para:
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Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO)
Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another
one?!
Jim Leonard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03-06-2004 16:53
Solicita-se resposta a
swcollect Are these particularly rare? I wouldn't imagine this fetching a
lot, but then again I'm not an Origin devotee so I wouldn't know. I
bought the Rocket Ranger comic book (an item in a similar vein) for $2,
for example...Pedro Quaresma wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1
Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of
Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma
Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and
Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes
/ Lotus Notes Administration and Development
[EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492)
Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., "Esperanza"
'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old
because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes
ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota
Online
http://www.toyota.pt-- Jim Leonard
([EMAIL PROTECTED])World's largest electronic gaming project:
http://www.MobyGames.com/A delicious slice of the demoscene:
http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/Various oldskool PC rants
and ramblings:
http://www.oldskool.org/--This
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Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
In a message dated 06/04/2004 8:08:19 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As Inspector Clouseau would say, "Not anymore..." Stuart, you've been coming up with a LOT of funny lines lately, do you work part time in a comedy club by any chance? ;) Hey, have they made any "Clouseau" video games? If not they should. Some funny stuff, remember the red hot glove/morning star and the parallel bar thing? Gosh now I might have to go buy some of those movies for my "movie collection" Thanks, Tom
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I don't work in a comedy club, but my brother used to do stand up...does that count? : ) The Clouseau movies are great. I don't think they ever made a game based onthe series(although there are 2 Pink Panther adventure games based on the newer version of the cartoon), but they just released the Pink Panther collection on DVD. Unfortunately, It's missing one of the movies which was produced by another studio (although this can be bought separately), and is seriously lacking in special features. BTW, Josh Mandel, one of my favorite adventure game designers and writers, used to do stand up,IIRC. : ) Stuart -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 10:47 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!In a message dated 06/04/2004 8:08:19 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As Inspector Clouseau would say, "Not anymore..."Stuart, you've been coming up with a LOT of funny lines lately, do you work part time in a comedy club by any chance? ;) Hey, have they made any "Clouseau" video games? If not they should. Some funny stuff, remember the red hot glove/morning star and the parallel bar thing? Gosh now I might have to go buy some of those movies for my "movie collection"Thanks,Tom
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
For anyone who already has this: Is anyone willing to make a copy of this for me? I am working on a streaming radio station of game music, and I would like to have selections from this be a part of it, but I would rather avoid spending $120 just to get the music (I am not an Origin collector). Pedro Quaresma wrote: Yes these are particularly rare. Or were at least :) These are the fabled Origin Soundtrack Vol. 1 we talked about a month ago. -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: (bcc: Pedro Quaresma/SCAETANO) Assunto: Re: [SWCollect] Another one?! *Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 03-06-2004 16:53 Solicita-se resposta a swcollect Are these particularly rare? I wouldn't imagine this fetching a lot, but then again I'm not an Origin devotee so I wouldn't know. I bought the Rocket Ranger comic book (an item in a similar vein) for $2, for example... Pedro Quaresma wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Another one?!
Are these particularly rare? I wouldn't imagine this fetching a lot, but then again I'm not an Origin devotee so I wouldn't know. I bought the Rocket Ranger comic book (an item in a similar vein) for $2, for example... Pedro Quaresma wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
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He has a few interesting items. Anyone who needs a small box (GTI) Ultima WoA2: Martian Dreams just watch his auction list. Hes posted quite a few of them, all shrinkwrapped. I got one from him and it was in great shape minus some minor corner damage (a result of the very cheap cardboard GTI used). Overall good service and great packaging, but way overpriced for SH. Steve From: MASTER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pedro Quaresma Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 5:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Another one?! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8108709630sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITrd=1 Surely this seller must've found the motherlode of Origin Soundtracks? :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Administration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) Toyota Prius '01, Aqua Ice Opalescent, 40K km., Esperanza 'People don't quit playing because they grow old. They grow old because they quit playing.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt
