Re: TURNING WINDOW-EYES TIPS

[net bat via Talk]

tab to always show on startup and uncheck it then close the window.

-Original Message- 
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD,Inc. via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:26 PM
To: 'Steve Jacobson' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: TURNING WINDOW-EYES TIPS

Hello Everyone:

Ok, I seem to be having a junior moment; just how can I turn off the tips
that Window-Eyes displays when you launch the program?

Operating System:  Windows 8.1

Also, even though it is checked, I can't get Window-Eyes to display in
SysTrayh--operating system is also Windows 8.1!

Many thanks for all help.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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TURNING WINDOW-EYES TIPS

[Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk]

Hello Everyone:

Ok, I seem to be having a junior moment; just how can I turn off the tips
that Window-Eyes displays when you launch the program?

Operating System:  Windows 8.1

Also, even though it is checked, I can't get Window-Eyes to display in
SysTrayh--operating system is also Windows 8.1!

Many thanks for all help.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Keyboard navigation works the same whether the menu bar is visible or 
not. the Alt key will still focus the menu bar and all the shortcut keys 
still work, ie. Alt-F, Alt-E, Alt-V, Etc.


Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 9:15 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

In IE it Brings up menu bar. You can go to view and toolbars and check menu and 
then you don't need to use this command.
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   - Original Message -
   From: Don H via Talk
   To: Manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:53 PM
   Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


   What is control alt f supposed to do?  Not familiar with that hot key
   combination.

   On 3/9/2016 7:40 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:
   > Hi to all,
   > WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes
   > explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and Elite..
   > I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
   > 1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
   > 2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
   > 3 closing all windows that are still responding
   > 4 restarting the computer.
   > Houston we have a problem!
   >
   >
   > Stay well,
   > Manny
   >
   > A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
   >
   > "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting,
   > to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for
   > return."
   >
   > Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
   > Freelance Writing Services
   > Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand
   >
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   >
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   > Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
   >   with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
   > 1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and
   > Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that
   > Driver Booster is a great program.
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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

I just assigned it here in this Thunderbird composition window and it 
worked fine here, in Notepad, Wordpad, Word, and just for good measure, 
IE, that is when not in browse mode.


Here's what I suggest assuming you want a global assignment.
1. Close all windows until you're sitting on the desktop.
2. Open the Window-Eyes control panel.
3. Control-O and open Default.set.
4. Go to Cursor keys and right arrow to expand it.
5. Arrow down once to Keys and then tab once. make sure it says Global, 
backspace, First action, etc. Global is the key word here.

6. Press the letter R once. This will land you on Right arrow.
You can select either Prior character after or Character before as they 
do the same thing.

7. Control-S to save the set file.
8. Control-O and reload Explorer.set.
9. Ponder whether it is necessary for all instructions to have ten steps.
10. Press Escape to touch back down on planet desktop and celebrate.

Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 9:09 PM, Dave Basden via Talk wrote:

I know it has but I have always redefined the right arrow to read the
character just left.  I got used to that way of doing it back before the
IBM PC came on the scene and I was using an Apple II with a Street
Electronics screenreader that came with the Echo II speech synthesizer.
It has the advantage that you don't have to use one key to get the
character you are on and another key to get successive characters as you
arrow right.  I can live with the right arrow reading the character
landed on, but I shouldn't have to as it wasn't necessary till WE9 came
along.  I have no idea why my installation would be different from three
GW employees.  I have been redefining cursor keys since it became
possible, so it doesn't seem likely I am doing something different.  Of
course it is always possible senility is setting in.  That's an ugly
thought!!!


At 02:01 PM 3/9/2016, you wrote:

Myh right arrow is set to charactger after and has been since the
invention of mud.

Chris Grabowski via Talk  wrote:

> Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same
result as Steve.
> The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
> Chris
>
> Chris
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
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On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
> To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

> Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up
>
> Dave,
>
> I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW
spoke the
> character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
> Which application are you using when you try this?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up
>
> Hi GW Staff and List
>
> I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys
> since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through
> Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character
> before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the
> various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an
> "execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just
> left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't
> return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and
> redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character
> landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other
> programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it
> with version 9.
>
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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

[Loy via Talk]

In IE it Brings up menu bar. You can go to view and toolbars and check menu and 
then you don't need to use this command.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Don H via Talk 
  To: Manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


  What is control alt f supposed to do?  Not familiar with that hot key 
  combination.

  On 3/9/2016 7:40 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:
  > Hi to all,
  > WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes
  > explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and Elite..
  > I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
  > 1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
  > 2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
  > 3 closing all windows that are still responding
  > 4 restarting the computer.
  > Houston we have a problem!
  >
  >
  > Stay well,
  > Manny
  >
  > A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
  >
  > "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting,
  > to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for
  > return."
  >
  > Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
  > Freelance Writing Services
  > Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand
  >
  > 808-268-0787
  >
  > www.honupublications.com
  >
  > checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
  > please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy
  > performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g
  >
  > computer specs:
  > Window Eyes 9.3,
  > Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
  >   with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
  > 1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and
  > Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that
  > Driver Booster is a great program.
  > Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz
  > 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential,
  > Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Dave Basden via Talk]

I didn't add a new key, I just changed the existing right arrow 
definition  to read prior character after the right arrow command was 
executed.  At least I think that's what I was doing as the labels on 
the various definitions have been changed somewhat.


At 03:47 PM 3/9/2016, you wrote:

does it do this with every program you run?
i duplicated the problem. but this only applies to the program you 
are running.
go to the cursor/keys to the left arrow. now click on show program. 
then  go back to the list of keys. if the left arrow key is there 
and defined undefine it.
when i did add the left arrow to the list and set it to character 
before and saved the set file it did exactly what you get. even 
though if you go back to the left arrow in the global menu list it 
will still show it is set to character after. the keys in the 
program list will over write what it says it is set to in the global menu.

but this would only apply to the program you are running.
so i would check each program that is affected and check the 
programmed keys list.



-Original Message- From: via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:01 PM
To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Myh right arrow is set to character after and has been since the
invention of mud.

Chris Grabowski via Talk  wrote:

Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same 
result as Steve.

The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
Chris

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
 On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 


Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Dave,

I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
Which application are you using when you try this?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Hi GW Staff and List

I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys
since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through
Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character
before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the
various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an
"execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just
left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't
return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and
redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character
landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other
programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it
with version 9.

Unhappy, but still devoted to Window-Eyes.

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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

[Loy via Talk]

Works fine here in IE 11, don't have TB to test.
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  From: Manny via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; WE SUPPORT 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:40 PM
  Subject: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


  Hi to all,
  WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes 
  explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and Elite..
  I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
  1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
  2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
  3 closing all windows that are still responding
  4 restarting the computer.
  Houston we have a problem!


  Stay well,
  Manny

  A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:

  "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting, 
  to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for 
  return."

  Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
  Freelance Writing Services
  Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand

  808-268-0787

  www.honupublications.com

  checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
  please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy 
  performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g

  computer specs:
  Window Eyes 9.3,
  Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 
  1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and 
  Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that 
  Driver Booster is a great program.
  Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 
  12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential, 
  Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
  Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag



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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and crashes explorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

[Don H via Talk]

What is control alt f supposed to do?  Not familiar with that hot key 
combination.


On 3/9/2016 7:40 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:

Hi to all,
WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes
explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and Elite..
I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
3 closing all windows that are still responding
4 restarting the computer.
Houston we have a problem!


Stay well,
Manny

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:

"May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting,
to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for
return."

Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
Freelance Writing Services
Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand

808-268-0787

www.honupublications.com

checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy
performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g

computer specs:
Window Eyes 9.3,
Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
  with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and
Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that
Driver Booster is a great program.
Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz
12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential,
Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag



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Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and crashes explorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

[Manny via Talk]

Hi to all,
WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes 
explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and Elite..

I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
3 closing all windows that are still responding
4 restarting the computer.
Houston we have a problem!


Stay well,
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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[net bat via Talk]

does it do this with every program you run?
i duplicated the problem. but this only applies to the program you are running.
go to the cursor/keys to the left arrow. now click on show program. then  go 
back to the list of keys. if the left arrow key is there and defined undefine 
it.
when i did add the left arrow to the list and set it to character before and 
saved the set file it did exactly what you get. even though if you go back to 
the left arrow in the global menu list it will still show it is set to 
character after. the keys in the program list will over write what it says it 
is set to in the global menu.

but this would only apply to the program you are running.
so i would check each program that is affected and check the programmed keys 
list.



-Original Message- 
From: via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:01 PM
To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Myh right arrow is set to character after and has been since the
invention of mud.

Chris Grabowski via Talk  wrote:

Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same result as 
Steve.

The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
Chris

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 


Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Dave,

I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
Which application are you using when you try this?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Hi GW Staff and List

I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys
since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through
Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character
before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the
various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an
"execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just
left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't
return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and
redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character
landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other
programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it
with version 9.

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Re: Problem after installing WE 9.4 evaluation.

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

Lol I think you misread my message.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Joseph Norton  wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> Usually, when an update to WindowEyes comes out, there is a rash of 
> complaints from folks who are trying to get the update as soon as possible.  
> As one of the AI Squared staff pointed out, the server can get overloaded and 
> things might work erratically.  After the first day, the problems  usually 
> calm down.
> 
> So, a good rule of thumb is, unless you have an urgent need for the latest 
> update, just give it a day or so, and things will probably work better.  And, 
> that sounds like just how things went for you.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:13 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: Problem after installing WE 9.4 evaluation.
> 
> Hi,
>  I tried installing the 60-day eval of WE9.4 on my machine just to give it a 
> try. I feared that on my nearly seven-year-old machine there might be trouble 
> and I was unfortunately all too right. For starters it kept saying evaluation 
> expired and it also ran incredibly slow, so I uninstalled it. Here’s where 
> the issues began. I had to use the WE emergency removal utility since 
> Window-Eyes was unlisted in the programs and features list in Windows Vista. 
> The issues began when I started reinstalling my older version of WE. The 
> installer said that Window-Eyes couldn’t communicate with the display driver 
> and that I should enable or reinstall it. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find 
> it, so I’m having to resort to using NVDA for the moment.
> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
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RE: Problem after installing WE 9.4 evaluation.

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Hi:

Usually, when an update to WindowEyes comes out, there is a rash of complaints 
from folks who are trying to get the update as soon as possible.  As one of the 
AI Squared staff pointed out, the server can get overloaded and things might 
work erratically.  After the first day, the problems  usually calm down.

So, a good rule of thumb is, unless you have an urgent need for the latest 
update, just give it a day or so, and things will probably work better.  And, 
that sounds like just how things went for you.


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On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Problem after installing WE 9.4 evaluation.

Hi,
  I tried installing the 60-day eval of WE9.4 on my machine just to give it a 
try. I feared that on my nearly seven-year-old machine there might be trouble 
and I was unfortunately all too right. For starters it kept saying evaluation 
expired and it also ran incredibly slow, so I uninstalled it. Here’s where the 
issues began. I had to use the WE emergency removal utility since Window-Eyes 
was unlisted in the programs and features list in Windows Vista. The issues 
began when I started reinstalling my older version of WE. The installer said 
that Window-Eyes couldn’t communicate with the display driver and that I should 
enable or reinstall it. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find it, so I’m having to 
resort to using NVDA for the moment.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Dave Basden via Talk]

Hi Doug,

That's three of you who can't find the problem, which makes me think 
it must either be me or my Windows 7 Pro installation.  Two of you 
are using Windows 10, but I wouldn't expect that to make a 
difference.  I also don't understand why, once I have made a change 
in the cursor key definition, I can't get back to the default 
directly.  Could an app be interfering?  Do you have any other ideas 
for what I could be doing wrong or what might be wrong with my installation?


Dave


At 12:30 PM 3/9/2016, you wrote:

Dave,

I am also not having a problem.  Setting the right arrow to "character
before" causes it to speak the character left instead of the character
going to.  Also, I went back in and had no problem changing my right
arrow back to "character after" which is our default.  Meaning I did not
have to reload the factory sets.  So Dave, I didn't have to go back to
8, my 9.4 works fine (smile). Either I'm not understanding the problem,
or steps are being left out or maybe you are not setting up the keys
properly.

Regards,
Doug

On 3/9/2016 3:10 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:
> Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same 
result as Steve.

> The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
> Chris
>
> Chris
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk

> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
> To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 


> Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up
>
> Dave,
>
> I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
> character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
> Which application are you using when you try this?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up
>
> Hi GW Staff and List
>
> I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys
> since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through
> Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character
> before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the
> various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an
> "execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just
> left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't
> return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and
> redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character
> landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other
> programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it
> with version 9.
>
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Problem after installing WE 9.4 evaluation.

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

Hi,
  I tried installing the 60-day eval of WE9.4 on my machine just to give it a 
try. I feared that on my nearly seven-year-old machine there might be trouble 
and I was unfortunately all too right. For starters it kept saying evaluation 
expired and it also ran incredibly slow, so I uninstalled it. Here’s where the 
issues began. I had to use the WE emergency removal utility since Window-Eyes 
was unlisted in the programs and features list in Windows Vista. The issues 
began when I started reinstalling my older version of WE. The installer said 
that Window-Eyes couldn’t communicate with the display driver and that I should 
enable or reinstall it. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find it, so I’m having to 
resort to using NVDA for the moment.
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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Dave Basden via Talk]

Why would setting the right arrow to character after cause We to read 
the character just left when a right arrow is pressed?


Dave


At 12:20 PM 3/9/2016, you wrote:

open the w e control panel and go to cursors
then keys and make sure both the left and right arrow are set to 
character after.


-Original Message- From: Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:10 PM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same 
result as Steve.

The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
Chris

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 


Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Dave,

I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
Which application are you using when you try this?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Hi GW Staff and List

I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys
since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through
Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character
before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the
various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an
"execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just
left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't
return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and
redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character
landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other
programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it
with version 9.

Unhappy, but still devoted to Window-Eyes.

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RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Dave Basden via Talk]

Hi Chris,

I can't imagine it's different for a Windows 7 Pro installation, so 
tell me how you defined the right arrow key in the cursor keys list.


Dave


At 12:10 PM 3/9/2016, you wrote:
Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same 
result as Steve.

The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
Chris

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
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On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 


Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Dave,

I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
Which application are you using when you try this?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Hi GW Staff and List

I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys
since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through
Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character
before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the
various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an
"execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just
left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't
return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and
redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character
landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other
programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it
with version 9.

Unhappy, but still devoted to Window-Eyes.

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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[via Talk]

Myh right arrow is set to charactger after and has been since the
invention of mud.

Chris Grabowski via Talk  wrote:

> Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same result as 
> Steve.
> The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
> Chris
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
> To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> 
> Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up
> 
> Dave,
> 
> I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
> character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
> Which application are you using when you try this?  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up
> 
> Hi GW Staff and List  
> 
> I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys 
> since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through 
> Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character 
> before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the 
> various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an 
> "execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just 
> left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't 
> return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and 
> redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character 
> landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other 
> programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it 
> with version 9.
> 
> Unhappy, but still devoted to Window-Eyes.
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Re: 9.4 Upgrade

[Tony C via Talk]

Exactly how mine went too. No problems here. It downloaded and installed 
first try.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:09 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 9.4 Upgrade

As a matter of fact, my installation went fairly quickly,and the installer
talked perfectly. The WE set-Up dialog was silent for a while, but only 2 or
3 minutes.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 1:12 PM
To: Danny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 9.4 Upgrade

Why would you need NVDA to install a new version of Window-eyes? It
should talk you through the entire instal process, both while upgrading,
and afterwords when the system reboots and installs all the default
apps. you shouldn't need another screenreader unless your system is set
up differently.









On 3/9/2016 1:18 PM, Danny via Talk wrote:
 Well I got the upgrade done thanks to NVDA.  I did the upgrade when 
prompted after a shutdown and startup and once the download reached 100 
percent and just kept repeating that I pressed enter which was on the uac 
yes button then was able to bring up NVDA and have speech for the 
remainder of the upgrade.  After the restart all seems to be working well.


Danny
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RE: Outlook Attachments Hot Key

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Barbara,

The app provides Control-Alt-A as a hotkey for opening a dialog for saving
attachments.
The same functionality can be achieved by opening the File menu from within
the message and selecting Save attachments.

Hth,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Barbara via Talk
Sent: March 9, 2016 5:05 PM
To: Window-Eyes 
Subject: Outlook Attachments Hot Key

Hi Everyone,

I have WE 9.3.  I have Outlook 2013.  I have been trying to use the
attachment hotkey alt-7, twice rapidly to get the attachments dialogue.
After several unsuccessful attempts with different messages, I think  I may
need to review something in the Outlook Enhanced app or something to be sure
all is set correctly.  I keep getting the message that attachment not found.
I realize this may happen sometimes, but it is too often now.  Please advise
the best way to do so.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Barbara
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RE: Location of Update on Win 7

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi,

Possible names for the Window-Eyes 9.4 upgrade installation file are
we94upgrade.exe and WindowEyesSetup.exe.

Hth,

Rod

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Of via Talk
Sent: March 9, 2016 12:58 PM
To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Location of Update on Win 7

What is the exact name of the file?
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Re: I am getting SICK and tired of this!

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

that was one of my first actions when this problem came up 6 months ago or so.
At 07:54 AM 3/9/2016, you wrote:

Open the Window-Eyes control panel.
Alt-A Apps.
App management.
App manager.
Alt-Y Security.
Make sure Allow all apps is selected and tab to OK and enter.

Fyi, Alt-F E to explore your profile folder.

Hth,
Tom


On 3/8/2016 4:17 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi: if you are not having problems with other programs disappearing it is
likely not a virus.
First, do the programs, WindowEyes scripts (apps) get deleted from your
computer or are they in the WindowEyes folder - I don't know which folder
since I am not an accessibility person but others on list will know?
If you can find one or 2 of the apps that are not appearing in the list in
the WindowEyes folder then we will look at the file properties next to try
and figure this thing out one step at a time.
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Outlook Attachments Hot Key

[Barbara via Talk]

Hi Everyone,

I have WE 9.3.  I have Outlook 2013.  I have been trying to use the
attachment hotkey alt-7, twice rapidly to get the attachments dialogue.
After several unsuccessful attempts with different messages, I think  I may
need to review something in the Outlook Enhanced app or something to be sure
all is set correctly.  I keep getting the message that attachment not found.
I realize this may happen sometimes, but it is too often now.  Please advise
the best way to do so.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Barbara
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RE: I am getting SICK and tired of this!

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

they are disappearing from the window-eyes "running" scripts, but in 
the remove dialogue, they are still there.

So far with 9.4, nothing has yet disappeared.At 01:17 AM 3/8/2016, you wrote:

Hi: if you are not having problems with other programs disappearing it is
likely not a virus.
First, do the programs, WindowEyes scripts (apps) get deleted from your
computer or are they in the WindowEyes folder - I don't know which folder
since I am not an accessibility person but others on list will know?
If you can find one or 2 of the apps that are not appearing in the list in
the WindowEyes folder then we will look at the file properties next to try
and figure this thing out one step at a time.
Rick USA

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RE: messages still in in box even though have it set to auto archieve every day

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Richard,

In the folder tree in Outlook, highlight the Inbox and then press the
Applications key and then up arrow to Properties.
When you press Enter on Properties, in the dialog which opens, the third
page tab is called Auto archive, where you can set your preferences.

Hth,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk
Sent: March 9, 2016 8:48 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: messages still in in box even though have it set to auto archieve
every day

How do I get to archive option using outlook 2013? How do I get to
properties of the in box folder?
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Re: set files appear to be gone what to do?

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

It sounds like crw9599 wasn't seeing set files in the File, Factory 
settings dialog. The first thing I would do is reboot to see if it fixes 
that dialog.


Here's the quickest way to get your profile folder.
Open the Window-Eyes control panel.
Alt-F File, E Explore profile folder.
You should hear the path when it opens.
Alt-D to go to the address bar wherein the full path will be highlighted.
Control-C to Copy it to the clipboard.

Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 2:47 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

it sounds like the path to the set files have changed.
a few months ago when i opened the settings there were no set files in
the list. the file path changed for some reason.
i know i am not explaining right but i will try.
when you open settings shift tab to get to the list of folders.
you have to right arrow to open each folder.
if the first folder is not your account folder then the path changed.
the path should be your account\app
data\roaming\gwmicro\wineyes\users\default
then the set files should show.

-Original Message- From: crw9599 via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:13 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: set files appear to be gone what to do?

  Hello. I did do the upgrade yesterday, thought that  everything  was
working, but when I went in to the factory settings of window eyes,
noticed that all of the set files are gone when I went in to the chrome
set file area for example, I did tab around to the second edit box heard
nothing, but when I went to install the set file the dialog came up it
mentioned set files all ready exist do you want to replace the set
files, so I said yes thinking that would fix things, so what should I
do? I am running windows7 home premium on a hp small form factor dc 5850
machine. Any help would be great. Thank you.


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Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Hi Carol,

Well, now I'm stumped. I turned on several of the New page 1 and 2 
options and all my messages are reading fine.


I also toggled view message body as original HTML, simple HTML, and 
plain text. So perhaps my shrinking brain has deleted the lobe where 
this was stored. For what it's worth, I'm running the latest TB: 38.6.0.


Tom


On 3/9/2016 1:47 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:

Hi Lou,

Just so you know what I am hearing, here it is straight from the email
you sent.  Please note, in the email you sent, and all email, there is
no print version of a repeated line.  Here is wha I hear:

Hey, Carol. I haven't messed with T-bird, but maybe what you're hearing is

Hey, Carol. I haven't messed with T-bird, but maybe what you're
hearing is
the title bar of the window being spoken, or, maybe WE is seeing the
message
window as a message window it must speak or a dialog. Try changing one or
more of the settings in the verbosity> common> activated properties page.

hth,
Lou N.

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:12 AM
To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A
second time

Hi Tom,

I made sure everything was set to program and turned everything off
except for speak first 24 lines.  I don't hear the number of things now,
but I do still hear the first line repeated in Thunderbird.  I cleared
the settings for both of the new page categories.  Do you have any more
suggestions?

Carol


On 3/9/2016 10:26 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I solved this a long time ago. Try going into the Window-Eyes control
panel, verbosity, browse mode, new page information 1 and 2, and
turning off everything other than read first 24 lines or entire page.
Toggle all the changes from global to program scope so you don't
change them in your browser or CHM help files. Save the set file.

This is because the automatic reading starts, then the new page
information fires, and this causes automatic reading to restart. You
can get the number of links, headings, etc. with the Speak Summary hot
key: Control-Shift-S.

Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 9:42 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:

Yes, I must agree with the posting immediately below, except that my
complaints pertain to Outlook 2013.  This is a Windows Seven Pro, 64
bit
Desktop PC. It's been happening for two or three upgrades, now, and
continues in Win-Eyes 9.4.  Every time I open a message, I have to
stop the
reading of the message, and usually must cause the first line of the
message
to re-read a few times before issuing a read-to-end command to hear
words
that don't repeat.  If I don't do that, a part of the message will be
repeated, and sometimes the repeated material includes a reference to
the
word "links," that aren't found in the body of the message at all.
Very
weird, yet not a show-stopper.

Louis Gosselin


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From: Talk


[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]


On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:25 PM
To: t...@lists.windoweyes.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A
second time

This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it
was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.

WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then reads
the rest of the message correctly.
On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
When I open A message in Thunderbird.
And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and

then.

Go back and read the first part over again.
I didn't do this before I upgraded.
So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this
not happen?
If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and give
us A way to fix it.



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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Doug Geoffray via Talk]

Dave,

I am also not having a problem.  Setting the right arrow to "character 
before" causes it to speak the character left instead of the character 
going to.  Also, I went back in and had no problem changing my right 
arrow back to "character after" which is our default.  Meaning I did not 
have to reload the factory sets.  So Dave, I didn't have to go back to 
8, my 9.4 works fine (smile). Either I'm not understanding the problem, 
or steps are being left out or maybe you are not setting up the keys 
properly.

Regards,
Doug

On 3/9/2016 3:10 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:
> Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same result as 
> Steve.
> The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
> Chris
>
> Chris
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
> To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> 
> Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up
>
> Dave,
>
> I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
> character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
> Which application are you using when you try this?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up
>
> Hi GW Staff and List  
>
> I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys
> since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through
> Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character
> before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the
> various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an
> "execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just
> left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't
> return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and
> redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character
> landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other
> programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it
> with version 9.
>
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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[net bat via Talk]

open the w e control panel and go to cursors
then keys and make sure both the left and right arrow are set to character 
after.


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Grabowski via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:10 PM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same result as 
Steve.

The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
Chris

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 


Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Dave,

I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
Which application are you using when you try this?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Hi GW Staff and List

I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys
since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through
Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character
before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the
various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an
"execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just
left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't
return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and
redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character
landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other
programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it
with version 9.

Unhappy, but still devoted to Window-Eyes.

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Re: 9.4 Upgrade

[net bat via Talk]

there is usually no speech when the files are being uncompressed and installed. 
it will say wineyes is being installed  with no feedback until it has finished. 
it could crash at this point and i would not know what is going on. at this 
point i have closed the setup with task manager and started the setup again 
after waiting 5 to 10 minutes.
there is little speech until  the dialogs pop up with questions. like  to 
install new braille support.

or when the quick setup app pops up.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 11:12 AM
To: Danny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 9.4 Upgrade

Why would you need NVDA to install a new version of Window-eyes? It
should talk you through the entire instal process, both while upgrading,
and afterwords when the system reboots and installs all the default
apps. you shouldn't need another screenreader unless your system is set
up differently.









On 3/9/2016 1:18 PM, Danny via Talk wrote:
 Well I got the upgrade done thanks to NVDA.  I did the upgrade when 
prompted after a shutdown and startup and once the download reached 100 
percent and just kept repeating that I pressed enter which was on the uac yes 
button then was able to bring up NVDA and have speech for the remainder of 
the upgrade.  After the restart all seems to be working well.


Danny
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Re: 9.4 Upgrade

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

As a matter of fact, my installation went fairly quickly,and the installer 
talked perfectly. The WE set-Up dialog was silent for a while, but only 2 or 
3 minutes.


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 1:12 PM
To: Danny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 9.4 Upgrade

Why would you need NVDA to install a new version of Window-eyes? It
should talk you through the entire instal process, both while upgrading,
and afterwords when the system reboots and installs all the default
apps. you shouldn't need another screenreader unless your system is set
up differently.









On 3/9/2016 1:18 PM, Danny via Talk wrote:
 Well I got the upgrade done thanks to NVDA.  I did the upgrade when 
prompted after a shutdown and startup and once the download reached 100 
percent and just kept repeating that I pressed enter which was on the uac 
yes button then was able to bring up NVDA and have speech for the 
remainder of the upgrade.  After the restart all seems to be working well.


Danny
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RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Using Windows 10, Outlook, Word, and Notepad I'm seeing the same result as 
Steve.
The right arrow speaks the character I just left.
Chris

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:24 PM
To: 'Dave Basden' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Dave,

I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
Which application are you using when you try this?  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Hi GW Staff and List

I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys 
since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through 
Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character 
before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the 
various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an 
"execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just 
left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't 
return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and 
redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character 
landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other 
programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it 
with version 9.

Unhappy, but still devoted to Window-Eyes.

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RE: Location of Update on Win 7

[John Farley via Talk]

The one I downloaded is WindowEyesSetup.exe

Bear in mind that Aaron of GW has already advised that the upgrade file may
have several different names depending on how it has been obtained.
 


Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076



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Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 5:58 PM
To: Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Location of Update on Win 7

What is the exact name of the file?
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RE: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors

[Aaron Smith via Talk]

Hi, Jeff.

You'll want to contact the app developer for assistance with their apps.

Thanks,

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Weiss [mailto:jeff-we...@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:22 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Aaron
> Smith ; nls...@tech.aph.org
> Subject: Re: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors
> 
> The corrupt signature problem is fixed.
> Thanks, Aaron
> 
> Now I still have a problem with the app Script Manager.
> Here is help from the app and my conclusions:
> Script Manager version 1.5
> by Jamal Mazrui
> 
> Three hotkeys go directly to script-related dialogs of Window-Eyes:
> Control-F10 for Add or Remove Apps,
> (this still works)
> Control-Shift-F10 for App Manager,
> (this does not work)
> and Windows-F10 for Package Manager.
> (this does not work)
> If the dialog is already open but not the active window, it is activated.
> 
> 
> note:
> For the two hotkeys that no longer work, I hear "cannot find Window-eyes
> control panel"
> This tells me that the hotkeys are working, but something has changed about
> how an app would access the script manager dialog and the package manager
> dialog.
> 
> This still worked with Window-eyes 9.3.1, so I know the problem started with
> we9.4.
> Can you check into this further please?
> thanks
> Jeff Weiss
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 11:21 AM
> To: Jeff Weiss ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors
> 
> Try it again. The issue should be resolved.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aaron
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+asmith=aisquared.com@lists.window-
> > eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 12:10 PM
> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> > Subject: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors
> >
> > I downloaded we9.4 from the update page with internet explorer.
> > The download worked, but IE said that the signature was corrupted.
> > I installed Window-eyes anyway and it works; however, when I use Jamal’s
> > Script Manager app, press the hotkey control-shift-f10, instead of opening
> > the app manager menu like it always has before, the app reports “can’t
> > find
> > Window-Eyes control panel:”.
> > What is up with that?  Could this be related to a corrupt signature in the
> > WE94
> > download?
> >
> > I would really like to hear from the AI Squared staff on this!\ Thanks
> > Jeff
> > Weiss
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Re: set files appear to be gone what to do?

[net bat via Talk]

it sounds like the path to the set files have changed.
a few months ago when i opened the settings there were no set files in the 
list. the file path changed for some reason.

i know i am not explaining right but i will try.
when you open settings shift tab to get to the list of folders.
you have to right arrow to open each folder.
if the first folder is not your account folder then the path changed.
the path should be your account\app data\roaming\gwmicro\wineyes\users\default
then the set files should show.

-Original Message- 
From: crw9599 via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:13 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: set files appear to be gone what to do?

 Hello. I did do the upgrade yesterday, thought that  everything  was
working, but when I went in to the factory settings of window eyes,
noticed that all of the set files are gone when I went in to the chrome
set file area for example, I did tab around to the second edit box heard
nothing, but when I went to install the set file the dialog came up it
mentioned set files all ready exist do you want to replace the set
files, so I said yes thinking that would fix things, so what should I
do? I am running windows7 home premium on a hp small form factor dc 5850
machine. Any help would be great. Thank you.


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Re: Installer broken for 9.4.0

[Davy Cuppens via Talk]

I hear so many complaints. I am sitting here on a rather old win7 machine 
and this afternoon here in Belgium, I did the upgrade without any of these 
problems.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Aaron Smith via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:00 PM
To: Michael McKay ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Rick Thomas
Subject: RE: Installer broken for 9.4.0

I would be hesitant about basing your entire opinion on the success of this 
version on the posts of a troubleshooting list.  Remember that you're 
subscribed to a discussion list where people report issues they're having 
with the software. Rarely do you hear success stories through this kind of 
medium. I can tell you that the number of people having issues due to 
legitimate problems in the Window-Eyes installation itself are vastly 
outnumbered by those having success. That's not to minimize the problems 
they're having, mind you. But rather to point out that things are, by the 
numbers, going very well for Window-Eyes 9.4.


Thanks,

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+asmith=aisquared.com@lists.window-
eyes.com] On Behalf Of Michael McKay via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:43 PM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Installer broken for 9.4.0

Well hi folks: I've been hearing a lot of discussion concerning the new 
update
for Window-Eyes, And that there are a lot of bugs at dealing with 
installation
of the software updates, and possibly others. I am wondering if this is 
the
same as others where you have to upload each one or install each one 
rather

as they come out or whether you can skip one and go to the next one. Could
someone please let me know, as I have not as yet downloaded Window-Eyes
9.4.0.


Thanks much!
Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

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> On Mar 9, 2016, at 06:00, Rick Thomas via Talk  wrote:
>
> Hi: I booted up and after typing in my windows pwd I heard the
> windoweyes chimes and then got a popup message from my "\HardDisk"
> asking whether to allow updates to the disk.
> It did not say it was from AI Squared nor WindowEyes but from what
> sounded like the drive manufacturer or something.
> Since I just closed this request and then immediately got the AI
> Squared PopUp to download and install the update I have to assume they
were related.
> Since I did not elect to allow updates from an unknown source I just
> closed the AI Squared PopUp since the install would have failed if 
> related.

> Note that if related to your install notification and others didn't
> get this UAC request due to system settings their update would likely
> fail if required by AI Squareds Installer processes.
> Others have said that your dialog is not accessible, is your dialog
> accessible so I wont have to go find sighted help to do the install?
> Should I run a clean disk and will that clear the temp files or
> folders you say may cause problems or is there another temp folder
> involved and why don't you download the executable to the standard
> Windows Download folder like everyone else?
> I really don't like a unrequested notification from UAC to modify my
> computer during boot up and from the hard disk at that.
> There should be no impact to my computer unless I click on something
> to indicate I want to have my computer modified like a update menu
> item under the help menu.
> So:
> Will clicking through the unknown modifications to my computer
> requested from my hard drive cause me expensive problems?
> Will your installer be completely accessible and active during the
> download and install process?
> Exactly what do I need to do to clear the temp files or whatever you
> are talking about, run a clean disk or manually delete something and,
> if so, what?
> This is my production machine and breaking it would be expensive to
> fix me thinks.
> Rick USA
>
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control alt f causing WE9.3 and WE9.4 to go silent

[Manny via Talk]

Hi,

WE9.4 is still going silent when pressing control alt f in the Elite 
program.
The first time the control alt w will bring speech back, but using 
control alt f again, the control alt w will not work, and restart did 
not give me an error report.
Is this another example where WE9.4 is queering the Elite for something 
and the Elite is not responding?
The  same silence was happening in I.E. 11 when using control alt 
f, but now WE9.4 is working fine.

Many thanks,
Manny


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RE: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Steve Jacobson via Talk]

Dave,

I just tried this in NotePad and it worked fine.  The RIGHT ARROW spoke the
character I just left instead of the character that the cursor was on.
Which application are you using when you try this?  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Basden via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:36 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

Hi GW Staff and List

I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys 
since WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through 
Version 8 I could define the right arrow key to read the character 
before the character the right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the 
various options at the top of the list and I've tried using an 
"execute hot key" with the definition to read the character just 
left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that I can't 
return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and 
redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character 
landed on when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other 
programmers look at Version 8 and see how it works and then try it 
with version 9.

Unhappy, but still devoted to Window-Eyes.

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Re: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors

[Jeff Weiss via Talk]

The corrupt signature problem is fixed.
Thanks, Aaron

Now I still have a problem with the app Script Manager.
Here is help from the app and my conclusions:
Script Manager version 1.5
by Jamal Mazrui

Three hotkeys go directly to script-related dialogs of Window-Eyes:
Control-F10 for Add or Remove Apps,
(this still works)
Control-Shift-F10 for App Manager,
(this does not work)
and Windows-F10 for Package Manager.
(this does not work)
If the dialog is already open but not the active window, it is activated.


note:
For the two hotkeys that no longer work, I hear
"cannot find Window-eyes control panel"
This tells me that the hotkeys are working, but something has changed about 
how an app would access the script manager dialog and the package manager 
dialog.


This still worked with Window-eyes 9.3.1, so I know the problem started with 
we9.4.

Can you check into this further please?
thanks
Jeff Weiss




-Original Message- 
   From: Aaron Smith

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 11:21 AM
To: Jeff Weiss ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors

Try it again. The issue should be resolved.

Thanks,

Aaron

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+asmith=aisquared.com@lists.window-
eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 12:10 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors

I downloaded we9.4 from the update page with internet explorer.
The download worked, but IE said that the signature was corrupted.
I installed Window-eyes anyway and it works; however, when I use Jamal’s
Script Manager app, press the hotkey control-shift-f10, instead of opening
the app manager menu like it always has before, the app reports “can’t 
find

Window-Eyes control panel:”.
What is up with that?  Could this be related to a corrupt signature in the 
WE94

download?

I would really like to hear from the AI Squared staff on this!\ Thanks 
Jeff

Weiss

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Re: 9.4 Upgrade

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

Why would you need NVDA to install a new version of Window-eyes? It 
should talk you through the entire instal process, both while upgrading, 
and afterwords when the system reboots and installs all the default 
apps. you shouldn't need another screenreader unless your system is set 
up differently.










On 3/9/2016 1:18 PM, Danny via Talk wrote:

 Well I got the upgrade done thanks to NVDA.  I did the upgrade when 
prompted after a shutdown and startup and once the download reached 100 percent 
and just kept repeating that I pressed enter which was on the uac yes button 
then was able to bring up NVDA and have speech for the remainder of the 
upgrade.  After the restart all seems to be working well.

Danny
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RE: Installer broken for 9.4.0

[Aaron Smith via Talk]

I would be hesitant about basing your entire opinion on the success of this 
version on the posts of a troubleshooting list.  Remember that you're 
subscribed to a discussion list where people report issues they're having with 
the software. Rarely do you hear success stories through this kind of medium. I 
can tell you that the number of people having issues due to legitimate problems 
in the Window-Eyes installation itself are vastly outnumbered by those having 
success. That's not to minimize the problems they're having, mind you. But 
rather to point out that things are, by the numbers, going very well for 
Window-Eyes 9.4.

Thanks,

Aaron

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> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+asmith=aisquared.com@lists.window-
> eyes.com] On Behalf Of Michael McKay via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:43 PM
> To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: Installer broken for 9.4.0
> 
> Well hi folks: I've been hearing a lot of discussion concerning the new update
> for Window-Eyes, And that there are a lot of bugs at dealing with installation
> of the software updates, and possibly others. I am wondering if this is the
> same as others where you have to upload each one or install each one rather
> as they come out or whether you can skip one and go to the next one. Could
> someone please let me know, as I have not as yet downloaded Window-Eyes
> 9.4.0.
> 
> 
> Thanks much!
> Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 9, 2016, at 06:00, Rick Thomas via Talk  eyes.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi: I booted up and after typing in my windows pwd I heard the
> > windoweyes chimes and then got a popup message from my "\HardDisk"
> > asking whether to allow updates to the disk.
> > It did not say it was from AI Squared nor WindowEyes but from what
> > sounded like the drive manufacturer or something.
> > Since I just closed this request and then immediately got the AI
> > Squared PopUp to download and install the update I have to assume they
> were related.
> > Since I did not elect to allow updates from an unknown source I just
> > closed the AI Squared PopUp since the install would have failed if related.
> > Note that if related to your install notification and others didn't
> > get this UAC request due to system settings their update would likely
> > fail if required by AI Squareds Installer processes.
> > Others have said that your dialog is not accessible, is your dialog
> > accessible so I wont have to go find sighted help to do the install?
> > Should I run a clean disk and will that clear the temp files or
> > folders you say may cause problems or is there another temp folder
> > involved and why don't you download the executable to the standard
> > Windows Download folder like everyone else?
> > I really don't like a unrequested notification from UAC to modify my
> > computer during boot up and from the hard disk at that.
> > There should be no impact to my computer unless I click on something
> > to indicate I want to have my computer modified like a update menu
> > item under the help menu.
> > So:
> > Will clicking through the unknown modifications to my computer
> > requested from my hard drive cause me expensive problems?
> > Will your installer be completely accessible and active during the
> > download and install process?
> > Exactly what do I need to do to clear the temp files or whatever you
> > are talking about, run a clean disk or manually delete something and,
> > if so, what?
> > This is my production machine and breaking it would be expensive to
> > fix me thinks.
> > Rick USA
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RE: Installer broken for 9.4.0

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Sometimes the install issues are due to bad downloads.

Everyone is hitting the server at once and it can only do so much.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael McKay via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:43 PM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Installer broken for 9.4.0

Well hi folks: I've been hearing a lot of discussion concerning the new update 
for Window-Eyes, And that there are a lot of bugs at dealing with installation 
of the software updates, and possibly others. I am wondering if this is the 
same as others where you have to upload each one or install each one rather as 
they come out or whether you can skip one and go to the next one. Could someone 
please let me know, as I have not as yet downloaded Window-Eyes 9.4.0.


Thanks much!
Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 06:00, Rick Thomas via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi: I booted up and after typing in my windows pwd I heard the windoweyes
> chimes and then got a popup message from my "\HardDisk" asking whether to
> allow updates to the disk.
> It did not say it was from AI Squared nor WindowEyes but from what sounded
> like the drive manufacturer or something.
> Since I just closed this request and then immediately got the AI Squared
> PopUp to download and install the update I have to assume they were related.
> Since I did not elect to allow updates from an unknown source I just closed
> the AI Squared PopUp since the install would have failed if related.
> Note that if related to your install notification and others didn't get this
> UAC request due to system settings their update would likely fail if
> required by AI Squareds Installer processes.
> Others have said that your dialog is not accessible, is your dialog
> accessible so I wont have to go find sighted help to do the install?
> Should I run a clean disk and will that clear the temp files or folders you
> say may cause problems or is there another temp folder involved and why
> don't you download the executable to the standard Windows Download folder
> like everyone else?
> I really don't like a unrequested notification from UAC to modify my
> computer during boot up and from the hard disk at that.
> There should be no impact to my computer unless I click on something to
> indicate I want to have my computer modified like a update menu item under
> the help menu.
> So:
> Will clicking through the unknown modifications to my computer requested
> from my hard drive cause me expensive problems?
> Will your installer be completely accessible and active during the download
> and install process?
> Exactly what do I need to do to clear the temp files or whatever you are
> talking about, run a clean disk or manually delete something and, if so,
> what?
> This is my production machine and breaking it would be expensive to fix me
> thinks.
> Rick USA
> 
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Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

Hi Lou,

Just so you know what I am hearing, here it is straight from the email 
you sent.  Please note, in the email you sent, and all email, there is 
no print version of a repeated line.  Here is wha I hear:


Hey, Carol. I haven't messed with T-bird, but maybe what you're hearing is

Hey, Carol. I haven't messed with T-bird, but maybe what you're hearing is
the title bar of the window being spoken, or, maybe WE is seeing the message
window as a message window it must speak or a dialog. Try changing one or
more of the settings in the verbosity> common> activated properties page.

hth,
Lou N.

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:12 AM
To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

Hi Tom,

I made sure everything was set to program and turned everything off
except for speak first 24 lines.  I don't hear the number of things now,
but I do still hear the first line repeated in Thunderbird.  I cleared
the settings for both of the new page categories.  Do you have any more
suggestions?

Carol


On 3/9/2016 10:26 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I solved this a long time ago. Try going into the Window-Eyes control
panel, verbosity, browse mode, new page information 1 and 2, and
turning off everything other than read first 24 lines or entire page.
Toggle all the changes from global to program scope so you don't
change them in your browser or CHM help files. Save the set file.

This is because the automatic reading starts, then the new page
information fires, and this causes automatic reading to restart. You
can get the number of links, headings, etc. with the Speak Summary hot
key: Control-Shift-S.

Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 9:42 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:

Yes, I must agree with the posting immediately below, except that my
complaints pertain to Outlook 2013.  This is a Windows Seven Pro, 64 bit
Desktop PC. It's been happening for two or three upgrades, now, and
continues in Win-Eyes 9.4.  Every time I open a message, I have to
stop the
reading of the message, and usually must cause the first line of the
message
to re-read a few times before issuing a read-to-end command to hear
words
that don't repeat.  If I don't do that, a part of the message will be
repeated, and sometimes the repeated material includes a reference to
the
word "links," that aren't found in the body of the message at all.  Very
weird, yet not a show-stopper.

Louis Gosselin


-Original Message-
From: Talk


[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:25 PM
To: t...@lists.windoweyes.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A
second time

This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it
was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.

WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then reads
the rest of the message correctly.
On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
When I open A message in Thunderbird.
And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and

then.

Go back and read the first part over again.
I didn't do this before I upgraded.
So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this
not happen?
If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and give
us A way to fix it.



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Re: Installer broken for 9.4.0

[Michael McKay via Talk]

Well hi folks: I've been hearing a lot of discussion concerning the new update 
for Window-Eyes, And that there are a lot of bugs at dealing with installation 
of the software updates, and possibly others. I am wondering if this is the 
same as others where you have to upload each one or install each one rather as 
they come out or whether you can skip one and go to the next one. Could someone 
please let me know, as I have not as yet downloaded Window-Eyes 9.4.0.


Thanks much!
Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 06:00, Rick Thomas via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi: I booted up and after typing in my windows pwd I heard the windoweyes
> chimes and then got a popup message from my "\HardDisk" asking whether to
> allow updates to the disk.
> It did not say it was from AI Squared nor WindowEyes but from what sounded
> like the drive manufacturer or something.
> Since I just closed this request and then immediately got the AI Squared
> PopUp to download and install the update I have to assume they were related.
> Since I did not elect to allow updates from an unknown source I just closed
> the AI Squared PopUp since the install would have failed if related.
> Note that if related to your install notification and others didn't get this
> UAC request due to system settings their update would likely fail if
> required by AI Squareds Installer processes.
> Others have said that your dialog is not accessible, is your dialog
> accessible so I wont have to go find sighted help to do the install?
> Should I run a clean disk and will that clear the temp files or folders you
> say may cause problems or is there another temp folder involved and why
> don't you download the executable to the standard Windows Download folder
> like everyone else?
> I really don't like a unrequested notification from UAC to modify my
> computer during boot up and from the hard disk at that.
> There should be no impact to my computer unless I click on something to
> indicate I want to have my computer modified like a update menu item under
> the help menu.
> So:
> Will clicking through the unknown modifications to my computer requested
> from my hard drive cause me expensive problems?
> Will your installer be completely accessible and active during the download
> and install process?
> Exactly what do I need to do to clear the temp files or whatever you are
> talking about, run a clean disk or manually delete something and, if so,
> what?
> This is my production machine and breaking it would be expensive to fix me
> thinks.
> Rick USA
> 
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9.4 Upgrade

[Danny via Talk]

Well I got the upgrade done thanks to NVDA.  I did the upgrade when 
prompted after a shutdown and startup and once the download reached 100 percent 
and just kept repeating that I pressed enter which was on the uac yes button 
then was able to bring up NVDA and have speech for the remainder of the 
upgrade.  After the restart all seems to be working well.

Danny
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set files appear to be gone what to do?

[crw9599 via Talk]

 Hello. I did do the upgrade yesterday, thought that  everything  was 
working, but when I went in to the factory settings of window eyes, 
noticed that all of the set files are gone when I went in to the chrome 
set file area for example, I did tab around to the second edit box heard 
nothing, but when I went to install the set file the dialog came up it 
mentioned set files all ready exist do you want to replace the set 
files, so I said yes thinking that would fix things, so what should I 
do? I am running windows7 home premium on a hp small form factor dc 5850 
machine. Any help would be great. Thank you.



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RE: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[via Talk]

Hey, Carol. I haven't messed with T-bird, but maybe what you're hearing is
the title bar of the window being spoken, or, maybe WE is seeing the message
window as a message window it must speak or a dialog. Try changing one or
more of the settings in the verbosity> common> activated properties page.

hth,
Lou N.

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:12 AM
To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

Hi Tom,

I made sure everything was set to program and turned everything off 
except for speak first 24 lines.  I don't hear the number of things now, 
but I do still hear the first line repeated in Thunderbird.  I cleared 
the settings for both of the new page categories.  Do you have any more 
suggestions?

Carol


On 3/9/2016 10:26 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> I solved this a long time ago. Try going into the Window-Eyes control 
> panel, verbosity, browse mode, new page information 1 and 2, and 
> turning off everything other than read first 24 lines or entire page. 
> Toggle all the changes from global to program scope so you don't 
> change them in your browser or CHM help files. Save the set file.
>
> This is because the automatic reading starts, then the new page 
> information fires, and this causes automatic reading to restart. You 
> can get the number of links, headings, etc. with the Speak Summary hot 
> key: Control-Shift-S.
>
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 3/9/2016 9:42 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:
>> Yes, I must agree with the posting immediately below, except that my
>> complaints pertain to Outlook 2013.  This is a Windows Seven Pro, 64 bit
>> Desktop PC. It's been happening for two or three upgrades, now, and
>> continues in Win-Eyes 9.4.  Every time I open a message, I have to 
>> stop the
>> reading of the message, and usually must cause the first line of the 
>> message
>> to re-read a few times before issuing a read-to-end command to hear 
>> words
>> that don't repeat.  If I don't do that, a part of the message will be
>> repeated, and sometimes the repeated material includes a reference to 
>> the
>> word "links," that aren't found in the body of the message at all.  Very
>> weird, yet not a show-stopper.
>>
>> Louis Gosselin
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>>
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>>
>> On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:25 PM
>> To: t...@lists.windoweyes.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> 
>> Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A 
>> second time
>>
>> This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4
>>
>> If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it
>> was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.
>>
>> WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then reads
>> the rest of the message correctly.
>> On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
>>> When I open A message in Thunderbird.
>>> And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and
>> then.
>>> Go back and read the first part over again.
>>> I didn't do this before I upgraded.
>>> So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
>>> Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this
>>> not happen?
>>> If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and give
>>> us A way to fix it.
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Location of Update on Win 7

[via Talk]

What is the exact name of the file?
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RE: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors

[Aaron Smith via Talk]

Try it again. The issue should be resolved.

Thanks,

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> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+asmith=aisquared.com@lists.window-
> eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 12:10 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors
> 
> I downloaded we9.4 from the update page with internet explorer.
> The download worked, but IE said that the signature was corrupted.
> I installed Window-eyes anyway and it works; however, when I use Jamal’s
> Script Manager app, press the hotkey control-shift-f10, instead of opening
> the app manager menu like it always has before, the app reports “can’t find
> Window-Eyes control panel:”.
> What is up with that?  Could this be related to a corrupt signature in the 
> WE94
> download?
> 
> I would really like to hear from the AI Squared staff on this!\ Thanks Jeff
> Weiss
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window-eyes 9.4 corrupt signature and app errors

[Jeff Weiss via Talk]

I downloaded we9.4 from the update page with internet explorer.
The download worked, but IE said that the signature was corrupted.
I installed Window-eyes anyway and it works; however, when I use Jamal’s Script 
Manager app, press the hotkey control-shift-f10, instead of opening the app 
manager menu like it always has before, the app reports “can’t find Window-Eyes 
control panel:”.
What is up with that?  Could this be related to a corrupt signature in the WE94 
download?

I would really like to hear from the AI Squared staff on this!\
Thanks
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Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Hi Carol,

Sorry. I can't think of anything else off hand. And I have no idea what 
Dennis is talking about below. Care to enlighten us, Dennis? Did you 
mean blank lines perhaps? I did have that off and turned it on. And it 
did speak blank at the start of every message. But there was no repeating.


Regards,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 11:25 AM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:

Turn off first lines.  Again make sure it's program specific.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 11:12 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

Hi Tom,

I made sure everything was set to program and turned everything off except
for speak first 24 lines.  I don't hear the number of things now, but I do
still hear the first line repeated in Thunderbird.  I cleared the settings
for both of the new page categories.  Do you have any more suggestions?

Carol


On 3/9/2016 10:26 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I solved this a long time ago. Try going into the Window-Eyes control
panel, verbosity, browse mode, new page information 1 and 2, and
turning off everything other than read first 24 lines or entire page.
Toggle all the changes from global to program scope so you don't
change them in your browser or CHM help files. Save the set file.

This is because the automatic reading starts, then the new page
information fires, and this causes automatic reading to restart. You
can get the number of links, headings, etc. with the Speak Summary hot
key: Control-Shift-S.

Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 9:42 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:

Yes, I must agree with the posting immediately below, except that my
complaints pertain to Outlook 2013.  This is a Windows Seven Pro, 64
bit Desktop PC. It's been happening for two or three upgrades, now,
and continues in Win-Eyes 9.4.  Every time I open a message, I have
to stop the reading of the message, and usually must cause the first
line of the message to re-read a few times before issuing a
read-to-end command to hear words that don't repeat.  If I don't do
that, a part of the message will be repeated, and sometimes the
repeated material includes a reference to the word "links," that
aren't found in the body of the message at all.  Very weird, yet not
a show-stopper.

Louis Gosselin


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint.net@lists.window-eyes
.com]

On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:25 PM
To: t...@lists.windoweyes.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A
second time

This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought
it was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.

WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then
reads the rest of the message correctly.
On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
When I open A message in Thunderbird.
And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and

then.

Go back and read the first part over again.
I didn't do this before I upgraded.
So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this
not happen?
If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and
give us A way to fix it.




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RE: Location of Update on Win 7

[John Farley via Talk]

Many thanks Carol. Got it.



Regards, John

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From: Carol and Roger [mailto:carogsm...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 4:24 PM
To: john_far...@btinternet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Location of Update on Win 7

If you are asking about the WE update, mine is in 
C:\Users\Carol\AppData\Local\Temp.

You should be able to look in your own user directory and search for it 
if you have show hidden files and folders turned on, or when in your own 
user folder, press windows-R and type in %appdata%.
This will open the appdata folder and then you can find local and press 
enter and then temp and press enter.  When on the temp folder name, I 
created a shortcut to my desktop because I use it enough that I don't 
like having to go through all of these steps. .

Carol
On 3/9/2016 11:05 AM, John Farley via Talk wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Could someone please let me know where the update file is downloaded to on
a
> Win 7 PC?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Regards, John
>
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Smart Screen Filter

[Aaron Smith via Talk]

Greetings,

Just a note to let you know that the issue with the Smart Screen filter 
blocking Window-Eyes downloads has been resolved.

Thank you for your patience.

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RE: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Dennis Long via Talk]

Turn off first lines.  Again make sure it's program specific.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 11:12 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

Hi Tom,

I made sure everything was set to program and turned everything off except
for speak first 24 lines.  I don't hear the number of things now, but I do
still hear the first line repeated in Thunderbird.  I cleared the settings
for both of the new page categories.  Do you have any more suggestions?

Carol


On 3/9/2016 10:26 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> I solved this a long time ago. Try going into the Window-Eyes control 
> panel, verbosity, browse mode, new page information 1 and 2, and 
> turning off everything other than read first 24 lines or entire page.
> Toggle all the changes from global to program scope so you don't 
> change them in your browser or CHM help files. Save the set file.
>
> This is because the automatic reading starts, then the new page 
> information fires, and this causes automatic reading to restart. You 
> can get the number of links, headings, etc. with the Speak Summary hot
> key: Control-Shift-S.
>
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 3/9/2016 9:42 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:
>> Yes, I must agree with the posting immediately below, except that my 
>> complaints pertain to Outlook 2013.  This is a Windows Seven Pro, 64 
>> bit Desktop PC. It's been happening for two or three upgrades, now, 
>> and continues in Win-Eyes 9.4.  Every time I open a message, I have 
>> to stop the reading of the message, and usually must cause the first 
>> line of the message to re-read a few times before issuing a 
>> read-to-end command to hear words that don't repeat.  If I don't do 
>> that, a part of the message will be repeated, and sometimes the 
>> repeated material includes a reference to the word "links," that 
>> aren't found in the body of the message at all.  Very weird, yet not 
>> a show-stopper.
>>
>> Louis Gosselin
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint.net@lists.window-eyes
>> .com]
>>
>> On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:25 PM
>> To: t...@lists.windoweyes.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A 
>> second time
>>
>> This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4
>>
>> If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought 
>> it was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.
>>
>> WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then 
>> reads the rest of the message correctly.
>> On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
>>> When I open A message in Thunderbird.
>>> And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and
>> then.
>>> Go back and read the first part over again.
>>> I didn't do this before I upgraded.
>>> So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
>>> Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this 
>>> not happen?
>>> If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and 
>>> give us A way to fix it.
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Location of Update on Win 7

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

If you are asking about the WE update, mine is in 
C:\Users\Carol\AppData\Local\Temp.


You should be able to look in your own user directory and search for it 
if you have show hidden files and folders turned on, or when in your own 
user folder, press windows-R and type in %appdata%.
This will open the appdata folder and then you can find local and press 
enter and then temp and press enter.  When on the temp folder name, I 
created a shortcut to my desktop because I use it enough that I don't 
like having to go through all of these steps. .


Carol
On 3/9/2016 11:05 AM, John Farley via Talk wrote:

Hello list,

Could someone please let me know where the update file is downloaded to on a
Win 7 PC?

Thank you.



Regards, John

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RE: Location of Update on Win 7

[Bill Tillery via Talk]

If you didn't set a default download-to location the best way to find it is
by using the search box.  Type the name of the file and it should provide
you with the location.  HTH


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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:06 AM
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Subject: Location of Update on Win 7

Hello list,

Could someone please let me know where the update file is downloaded to on a
Win 7 PC?

Thank you.



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RE: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Michael Massey via Talk]

I think the word is supposed to be period.  I did a double take when I heard
the word as well.  I had to find it and arrow through it. The context of the
message helped me figure out what the misspelled word was.  

Mike M.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Linette Sukup via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:57 AM
To: Alan Siman ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time



What is a peruid?

Peace.
Linette



On 3/8/2016 10:25 PM, Alan Siman via Talk wrote:
> This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4
>
> If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it 
> was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.
>
> WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then 
> reads the rest of the message correctly.
> On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:
>> Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
>> When I open A message in Thunderbird.
>> And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and 
>> then.
>> Go back and read the first part over again.
>> I didn't do this before I upgraded.
>> So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
>> Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this 
>> not happen?
>> If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and 
>> give us A way to fix it.
>>
>>
>
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Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

Hi Tom,

I made sure everything was set to program and turned everything off 
except for speak first 24 lines.  I don't hear the number of things now, 
but I do still hear the first line repeated in Thunderbird.  I cleared 
the settings for both of the new page categories.  Do you have any more 
suggestions?


Carol


On 3/9/2016 10:26 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
I solved this a long time ago. Try going into the Window-Eyes control 
panel, verbosity, browse mode, new page information 1 and 2, and 
turning off everything other than read first 24 lines or entire page. 
Toggle all the changes from global to program scope so you don't 
change them in your browser or CHM help files. Save the set file.


This is because the automatic reading starts, then the new page 
information fires, and this causes automatic reading to restart. You 
can get the number of links, headings, etc. with the Speak Summary hot 
key: Control-Shift-S.


Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 9:42 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:

Yes, I must agree with the posting immediately below, except that my
complaints pertain to Outlook 2013.  This is a Windows Seven Pro, 64 bit
Desktop PC. It's been happening for two or three upgrades, now, and
continues in Win-Eyes 9.4.  Every time I open a message, I have to 
stop the
reading of the message, and usually must cause the first line of the 
message
to re-read a few times before issuing a read-to-end command to hear 
words

that don't repeat.  If I don't do that, a part of the message will be
repeated, and sometimes the repeated material includes a reference to 
the

word "links," that aren't found in the body of the message at all.  Very
weird, yet not a show-stopper.

Louis Gosselin


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com] 


On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:25 PM
To: t...@lists.windoweyes.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A 
second time


This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it
was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.

WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then reads
the rest of the message correctly.
On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
When I open A message in Thunderbird.
And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and

then.

Go back and read the first part over again.
I didn't do this before I upgraded.
So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this
not happen?
If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and give
us A way to fix it.




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Location of Update on Win 7

[John Farley via Talk]

Hello list,

Could someone please let me know where the update file is downloaded to on a
Win 7 PC?

Thank you.



Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: (0) +44 7815 056076



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Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Linette Sukup via Talk]

What is a peruid?

Peace.
Linette



On 3/8/2016 10:25 PM, Alan Siman via Talk wrote:

This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it 
was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.


WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then 
reads the rest of the message correctly.

On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
When I open A message in Thunderbird.
And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and 
then.

Go back and read the first part over again.
I didn't do this before I upgraded.
So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this 
not happen?
If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and 
give us A way to fix it.





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Re: I am getting SICK and tired of this!

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Open the Window-Eyes control panel.
Alt-A Apps.
App management.
App manager.
Alt-Y Security.
Make sure Allow all apps is selected and tab to OK and enter.

Fyi, Alt-F E to explore your profile folder.

Hth,
Tom


On 3/8/2016 4:17 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi: if you are not having problems with other programs disappearing it is
likely not a virus.
First, do the programs, WindowEyes scripts (apps) get deleted from your
computer or are they in the WindowEyes folder - I don't know which folder
since I am not an accessibility person but others on list will know?
If you can find one or 2 of the apps that are not appearing in the list in
the WindowEyes folder then we will look at the file properties next to try
and figure this thing out one step at a time.
Rick USA



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RE: error downloading WE 9.4

[via Talk]

Found it. Thanks, Rod. Okay. So does anyone know why the file I downloaded
from the GW Micro web page (WE94Update.exe) has a different name than the
one I received by using the download Window-Eyes 9.4.0.0 link
(WindowEyesSetup.exe)? They're two different sizes--77.1 mb versus 79.3 mb.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 6:54 PM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: error downloading WE 9.4

Hi,

This is the actual location on my Windows 10 system:

C:\Users\Rod-Win-10\AppData\Local\Temp

Simply replace Rod-Win-10 with your specific username.
Also, I notice the upgrade package name no longer includes the version
number.
It is simply named: WindowEyesSetup.exe.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of via Talk
Sent: March 8, 2016 1:46 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: error downloading WE 9.4

This is happening to me as well. At first, I tried using the Download
Window-Eyes 9.4.0.0 link in the check for updates dialog. I left the
computer to the download and when I came back, I couldn't find the
executeable. Assuming that the download link works, where exactly is the
update file being downloaded to? Not the downloads folder.

Lou N.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:59 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Window-Eyes Support
Subject: error downloading WE 9.4

When I attempt to go to the GW Micro web site and download WE9.4 after 
entering my serial number and starting the download I get the message 
that the signature is invalid and it gives me the option to delete the 
download.
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Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

I solved this a long time ago. Try going into the Window-Eyes control 
panel, verbosity, browse mode, new page information 1 and 2, and turning 
off everything other than read first 24 lines or entire page. Toggle all 
the changes from global to program scope so you don't change them in 
your browser or CHM help files. Save the set file.


This is because the automatic reading starts, then the new page 
information fires, and this causes automatic reading to restart. You can 
get the number of links, headings, etc. with the Speak Summary hot key: 
Control-Shift-S.


Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 9:42 AM, gosselin_louis via Talk wrote:

Yes, I must agree with the posting immediately below, except that my
complaints pertain to Outlook 2013.  This is a Windows Seven Pro, 64 bit
Desktop PC. It's been happening for two or three upgrades, now, and
continues in Win-Eyes 9.4.  Every time I open a message, I have to stop the
reading of the message, and usually must cause the first line of the message
to re-read a few times before issuing a read-to-end command to hear words
that don't repeat.  If I don't do that, a part of the message will be
repeated, and sometimes the repeated material includes a reference to the
word "links," that aren't found in the body of the message at all.  Very
weird, yet not a show-stopper.

Louis Gosselin


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:25 PM
To: t...@lists.windoweyes.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it
was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.

WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then reads
the rest of the message correctly.
On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
When I open A message in Thunderbird.
And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and

then.

Go back and read the first part over again.
I didn't do this before I upgraded.
So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this
not happen?
If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and give
us A way to fix it.




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RE: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[gosselin_louis via Talk]

Yes, I must agree with the posting immediately below, except that my
complaints pertain to Outlook 2013.  This is a Windows Seven Pro, 64 bit
Desktop PC. It's been happening for two or three upgrades, now, and
continues in Win-Eyes 9.4.  Every time I open a message, I have to stop the
reading of the message, and usually must cause the first line of the message
to re-read a few times before issuing a read-to-end command to hear words
that don't repeat.  If I don't do that, a part of the message will be
repeated, and sometimes the repeated material includes a reference to the
word "links," that aren't found in the body of the message at all.  Very
weird, yet not a show-stopper.

Louis Gosselin


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Alan Siman via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:25 PM
To: t...@lists.windoweyes.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it
was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.

WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then reads
the rest of the message correctly.
On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:
> Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
> When I open A message in Thunderbird.
> And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and
then.
> Go back and read the first part over again.
> I didn't do this before I upgraded.
> So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
> Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this
> not happen?
> If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and give
> us A way to fix it.
>
>

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W-E9.4 and replying to comments in mobile Facebook

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Hi all

I haven't yet tried this with Internet Explorer, but in Mobile Facebook
with the latest Firefox and W-E9.4, when I reply to a comment, as
distinct from simply adding a comment, having written my reply, and hit
the button, all the keys on the main keyboard say "not a valid key press". 
Fortunately, the mouse keys still work, and I can hit alt+left arrow to
get back to the previous page.
Is this just my experience, or anyone else's?
-- 
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RE: error downloading WE 9.4

[Faith Elizabeth Cummings via Talk]

I got the update yesterday and had no problem at all downloading or
installing it. So far, so good. Faith 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Aaron Smith via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:45 AM
To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
; Tom Kingston 
Subject: RE: error downloading WE 9.4

That is correct. The filenames can be different because of various reasons,
most notably how the file is obtained. But the underlying, installed bits
are identical.

Thanks,

Aaron

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> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+asmith=aisquared.com@lists.window-
> eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:34 AM
> To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion 
> List 
> Subject: RE: error downloading WE 9.4
> 
> Hi,
> I also downloaded mine from help/check for updates and my file name is 
> the same as Rods.  I'm willing to bet it is how you download it.
> Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared.com@lists.window-
> eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 11:48 PM
> To: Rod Hutton ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> 
> Subject: Re: error downloading WE 9.4
> 
> Hey Rod,
> 
> So did I. But for what it's worth I always go to the web site instead 
> of using the direct download.
> I don't know if you're using Window-Eyes for Office or if it would 
> make a difference. But I would certainly ask wesupp...@aisquared.com 
> why you got a different file this time.
> 
> Good luck,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 3/8/2016 10:27 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I upgraded from the Check for update option on the Help menu, if 
> > that makes a difference.
> > Beats me why the installer on my system wouldn't have the version
> number.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> > Sent: March 8, 2016 9:13 PM
> > To: Singing Sparrow ; Window-Eyes Discussion 
> > List 
> > Subject: Re: error downloading WE 9.4
> >
> > Same here. I got we94upgrade.exe.
> >
> >
> > On 3/8/2016 8:46 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:
> >> strange because i got the download with the version number.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/8/2016 6:53 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> This is the actual location on my Windows 10 system:
> >>>
> >>> C:\Users\Rod-Win-10\AppData\Local\Temp
> >>>
> >>> Simply replace Rod-Win-10 with your specific username.
> >>> Also, I notice the upgrade package name no longer includes the 
> >>> version number.
> >>> It is simply named: WindowEyesSetup.exe.
> >>>
> >>> Hth,
> >>>
> >>> Rod
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Talk
> >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail.com@lists.window-
> eyes.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of via Talk
> >>> Sent: March 8, 2016 1:46 PM
> >>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> >>> Subject: RE: error downloading WE 9.4
> >>>
> >>> This is happening to me as well. At first, I tried using the 
> >>> Download Window-Eyes 9.4.0.0 link in the check for updates dialog. 
> >>> I left the computer to the download and when I came back, I 
> >>> couldn't find the executeable. Assuming that the download link 
> >>> works, where exactly is the update file being downloaded to? Not 
> >>> the downloads
> folder.
> >>>
> >>> Lou N.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Talk
> >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal.net@lists.window-
> eyes.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:59 AM
> >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Window-Eyes Support
> >>> Subject: error downloading WE 9.4
> >>>
> >>> When I attempt to go to the GW Micro web site and download WE9.4 
> >>> after entering my serial number and starting the download I get 
> >>> the message that the signature is invalid and it gives me the 
> >>> option to delete the download.
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messages still in in box even though have it set to auto archieve every day

[Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk]

How do I get to archive option using outlook 2013? How do I get to properties 
of the in box folder?
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RE: error downloading WE 9.4

[Aaron Smith via Talk]

That is correct. The filenames can be different because of various reasons, 
most notably how the file is obtained. But the underlying, installed bits are 
identical.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+asmith=aisquared.com@lists.window-
> eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:34 AM
> To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: RE: error downloading WE 9.4
> 
> Hi,
> I also downloaded mine from help/check for updates and my file name is the
> same as Rods.  I'm willing to bet it is how you download it.
> Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared.com@lists.window-
> eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 11:48 PM
> To: Rod Hutton ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> 
> Subject: Re: error downloading WE 9.4
> 
> Hey Rod,
> 
> So did I. But for what it's worth I always go to the web site instead of using
> the direct download.
> I don't know if you're using Window-Eyes for Office or if it would make a
> difference. But I would certainly ask wesupp...@aisquared.com why you got
> a different file this time.
> 
> Good luck,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 3/8/2016 10:27 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I upgraded from the Check for update option on the Help menu, if that
> > makes a difference.
> > Beats me why the installer on my system wouldn't have the version
> number.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> > Sent: March 8, 2016 9:13 PM
> > To: Singing Sparrow ; Window-Eyes Discussion
> > List 
> > Subject: Re: error downloading WE 9.4
> >
> > Same here. I got we94upgrade.exe.
> >
> >
> > On 3/8/2016 8:46 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:
> >> strange because i got the download with the version number.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/8/2016 6:53 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> This is the actual location on my Windows 10 system:
> >>>
> >>> C:\Users\Rod-Win-10\AppData\Local\Temp
> >>>
> >>> Simply replace Rod-Win-10 with your specific username.
> >>> Also, I notice the upgrade package name no longer includes the
> >>> version number.
> >>> It is simply named: WindowEyesSetup.exe.
> >>>
> >>> Hth,
> >>>
> >>> Rod
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Talk
> >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail.com@lists.window-
> eyes.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of via Talk
> >>> Sent: March 8, 2016 1:46 PM
> >>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> >>> Subject: RE: error downloading WE 9.4
> >>>
> >>> This is happening to me as well. At first, I tried using the
> >>> Download Window-Eyes 9.4.0.0 link in the check for updates dialog. I
> >>> left the computer to the download and when I came back, I couldn't
> >>> find the executeable. Assuming that the download link works, where
> >>> exactly is the update file being downloaded to? Not the downloads
> folder.
> >>>
> >>> Lou N.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Talk
> >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal.net@lists.window-
> eyes.com]
> >>> On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:59 AM
> >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Window-Eyes Support
> >>> Subject: error downloading WE 9.4
> >>>
> >>> When I attempt to go to the GW Micro web site and download WE9.4
> >>> after entering my serial number and starting the download I get the
> >>> message that the signature is invalid and it gives me the option to
> >>> delete the download.
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> >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
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Re: Installer broken for 9.4.0

[Loy via Talk]

I don't think these were related. I got the upgrade popup from AISquared and 
all went as it should.
"1 John 4:11  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Thomas via Talk 
  To: 'Peter Duran' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 5:00 AM
  Subject: RE: Installer broken for 9.4.0


  Hi: I booted up and after typing in my windows pwd I heard the windoweyes
  chimes and then got a popup message from my "\HardDisk" asking whether to
  allow updates to the disk.
  It did not say it was from AI Squared nor WindowEyes but from what sounded
  like the drive manufacturer or something.
  Since I just closed this request and then immediately got the AI Squared
  PopUp to download and install the update I have to assume they were related.
  Since I did not elect to allow updates from an unknown source I just closed
  the AI Squared PopUp since the install would have failed if related.
  Note that if related to your install notification and others didn't get this
  UAC request due to system settings their update would likely fail if
  required by AI Squareds Installer processes.
  Others have said that your dialog is not accessible, is your dialog
  accessible so I wont have to go find sighted help to do the install?
  Should I run a clean disk and will that clear the temp files or folders you
  say may cause problems or is there another temp folder involved and why
  don't you download the executable to the standard Windows Download folder
  like everyone else?
  I really don't like a unrequested notification from UAC to modify my
  computer during boot up and from the hard disk at that.
  There should be no impact to my computer unless I click on something to
  indicate I want to have my computer modified like a update menu item under
  the help menu.
  So:
  Will clicking through the unknown modifications to my computer requested
  from my hard drive cause me expensive problems?
  Will your installer be completely accessible and active during the download
  and install process?
  Exactly what do I need to do to clear the temp files or whatever you are
  talking about, run a clean disk or manually delete something and, if so,
  what?
  This is my production machine and breaking it would be expensive to fix me
  thinks.
  Rick USA

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RE: error downloading WE 9.4

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
I also downloaded mine from help/check for updates and my file name is the same 
as Rods.  I'm willing to bet it is how you download it.  
Chris

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 11:48 PM
To: Rod Hutton ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: Re: error downloading WE 9.4

Hey Rod,

So did I. But for what it's worth I always go to the web site instead of 
using the direct download.
I don't know if you're using Window-Eyes for Office or if it would make 
a difference. But I would certainly ask wesupp...@aisquared.com why you 
got a different file this time.

Good luck,
Tom


On 3/8/2016 10:27 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> I upgraded from the Check for update option on the Help menu, if that makes
> a difference.
> Beats me why the installer on my system wouldn't have the version number.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: March 8, 2016 9:13 PM
> To: Singing Sparrow ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: error downloading WE 9.4
>
> Same here. I got we94upgrade.exe.
>
>
> On 3/8/2016 8:46 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:
>> strange because i got the download with the version number.
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/2016 6:53 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is the actual location on my Windows 10 system:
>>>
>>> C:\Users\Rod-Win-10\AppData\Local\Temp
>>>
>>> Simply replace Rod-Win-10 with your specific username.
>>> Also, I notice the upgrade package name no longer includes the version
>>> number.
>>> It is simply named: WindowEyesSetup.exe.
>>>
>>> Hth,
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of via Talk
>>> Sent: March 8, 2016 1:46 PM
>>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
>>> Subject: RE: error downloading WE 9.4
>>>
>>> This is happening to me as well. At first, I tried using the Download
>>> Window-Eyes 9.4.0.0 link in the check for updates dialog. I left the
>>> computer to the download and when I came back, I couldn't find the
>>> executeable. Assuming that the download link works, where exactly is the
>>> update file being downloaded to? Not the downloads folder.
>>>
>>> Lou N.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Don H via Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:59 AM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Window-Eyes Support
>>> Subject: error downloading WE 9.4
>>>
>>> When I attempt to go to the GW Micro web site and download WE9.4 after
>>> entering my serial number and starting the download I get the message
>>> that the signature is invalid and it gives me the option to delete the
>>> download.
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Re: Key Definitions for Cursor Keys Still Messed Up

[Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk]

Are you trying to do a global change ? Also more specifics on what you tried or 
what you expect would be useful if you want assistance.  


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 12:36 AM, Dave Basden via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi GW Staff and List
> 
> I've been complaining about the definitions for cursor control keys since 
> WE9.0 came out and they are still not correct.  Up through Version 8 I could 
> define the right arrow key to read the character before the character the 
> right arrow moves to.I've tried it with the various options at the top of the 
> list and I've tried using an "execute hot key" with the definition to read 
> the character just left.  It doesn't work.  What's more, once I've done that 
> I can't return to the default definition.  I had to restore the default and 
> redefine everything today just to get back to reading the character landed on 
> when I press right arrow.  I suggest Doug and the other programmers look at 
> Version 8 and see how it works and then try it with version 9.
> 
> Unhappy, but still devoted to Window-Eyes.
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Wind 10 question

[Tony C via Talk]

I had to reset my Windows 10 PC yesterday. I can’t remember where “this PC” is 
located so I can put a shortcut to it on my destopl Any Help..??
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Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

Yes, my version reads the first complete line.  If there is one or two 
words, i.e. Hi or Dear Group, it is not so bad.  However, by reading 3/4 
of the message in one or two lines, it makes listening more difficult.  
I have been getting to the point of pressing the up arrow as soon as the 
email loads and reading line by line.


Carol


On 3/8/2016 11:25 PM, Alan Siman via Talk wrote:

This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it 
was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.


WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then 
reads the rest of the message correctly.

On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
When I open A message in Thunderbird.
And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and 
then.

Go back and read the first part over again.
I didn't do this before I upgraded.
So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this 
not happen?
If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and 
give us A way to fix it.





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Re: Thunderbird Question

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

Look to see if you have archive folders.  Your file should be in the 
2016 folder inside the archive one.



On 3/9/2016 2:17 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

Feel free to write me off list if this is not relevant.

While scrolling through e-mail headers, I accidentally hit the letter 
"a." This seemed to perminently remove an e-mail.  Is this the case?  
I asked another Thunderbird user but his version didn't seem to do this.


Nick
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Re: Get Window-Eyes 9.4 for the best Windows Experience

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Hi:

I noticed Smart Screen complains with the WindowEyesForOffice file for
WE 9.4.  It says something about the signature being invalid.  Also
noticed this with the evaluation version of WE 9.4.

Do you folks have to alert Microsoft every time you release an update
so they don't think the files are malware?

I know that, at some point, Smart Screen has allowed the earlier WE
setup files to be downloaded without complaint.  Also, in Windows 8
and later, Smart Screen runs at the desktop level without Internet
Explorer, further exaserbating the problems.

On 3/9/16, Robert Ringwald via Talk  wrote:
> Call GWMicro. If you owned a copy of Window Eyes, I'm sure they can find a
> record of it and tell you how much to get current.
>
> -Bob Ringwald
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: matthew dyer via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 3:05 PM
> To: Aaron Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Armando Maldonado
> Subject: Re: Get Window-Eyes 9.4 for the best Windows Experience
>
> ,
>
> Does anyone know how much it would cost to upgrade from 7.0 to 9.4. I do
> not have a cd with my serial number on it anymore.  I am just wonderikng.
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 03/08/2016 02:30 PM, Aaron Smith via Talk wrote:
>> I would suggest starting an official dialog with wesupp...@aisquared.com
>> so that we can try to figure out exactly what's happening on your specific
>>
>> machine, as it does not appear to be a general problem.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Aaron
>>
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