RE: Outlook 2016 and moving messages to a folder

[Bill Tillery via Talk]

If it's the same as Outlook 10 and 13, the command is alt-h, m, v, and
select folder.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of David Crowell via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Outlook 2016 and moving messages to a folder

Hi All, 

 

I am really embarrassed but I accidently deleted the directions someone sent
me a few months ago about how to move a message from one folder to another
folder in outlook  I accidently put something in the deleted folder and need
to get it back to the orginal folder it was saved in.  Any help on how to do
this would be greatly appreciated.  

 

 
Dave 

 

 

 

"Life is too short for drama & petty things, So kiss slowly, laugh insanely,
love truly and forgive quickly." 

 
William Arthur 

 

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outlook 2016

[Richard via Talk]

When I open my messages n outlook 2016 the body of the message doesn't read.
I have to close the message and reopen it to read the message using
windoweyes 9.5.3 and windows 10

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speech problem and desktop shortcut problem

[Ted Larson via Talk]

Dear List

I have an old and a new windows ten computer.  The new computer has the
problems.  First, when I am typing on the keyboard, the key echo is good,
but, if I stop for about ten seconds, the first character I type is
partially cut off at the beginning of the character.  For example, it might
say eriod instead of period.  What can I try to correct this?

The second quirk is that if I make a shortcut to a certain website, the
arrow keys do not work, just the tab.  Other websites work fine.  If I type
the address in the address bar instead of getting to it with the desktop
shortcut, it works fine.  Just making a desktop shortcut on that one website
causes the arrows not to work.  If you have any ideas, please let me know.
Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

 

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Re: a message for Rod Hutton

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hi Don, I actually happen to have the e-mail address that you're looking for. 
it will be below for you
> 
> Rod Hutton 
.

> On Jan 16, 2017, at 6:15 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I apologize for sending a private message to the list; however, addresses on 
> this list are hidden, so I didn't have Rod's address to which I could send a 
> private message.
> 
> 
> Rod, as you are into scripting, I wonder whether you have ever considered 
> scripting a wonderful and very comprehensive file renamer called "Bulk rename 
> utility" available from
> 
> http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk .
> 
> 
> It talks reasonably well with Window-eyes, but it is rather confusing if one 
> wishes to use its more exotic renaming functions.
> 
> 
> If at all interested, please give it a look and tell me what you think.
> 
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
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a message for Rod Hutton

[Donald L. Roberts via Talk]

I apologize for sending a private message to the list; however, 
addresses on this list are hidden, so I didn't have Rod's address to 
which I could send a private message.



Rod, as you are into scripting, I wonder whether you have ever 
considered scripting a wonderful and very comprehensive file renamer 
called "Bulk rename utility" available from


http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk .


It talks reasonably well with Window-eyes, but it is rather confusing if 
one wishes to use its more exotic renaming functions.



If at all interested, please give it a look and tell me what you think.


Cordially,


Don Roberts


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RE: windows 10 cmd command

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Already done!  It affects other command windows, which is fine with me.



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From: John Covici [mailto:cov...@ccs.covici.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 3:32 PM
To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Cc: 'Jim Ruby' 
Subject: Re: windows 10 cmd command

OK, to fix, do altp-space in the command window, go to properties anc check
use legacy console or some such.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 08:30:47 -0500,
Joseph Norton via Talk wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I too have noticed this ever since I upgraded to Win 10 last year.
> 
> Hopefully, WE developers know about this, but.
> 
> However, right now, the only work-around I have found is to use NVDA 
> whenever I need the command window.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jim Ruby via Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 1:41 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Subject: windows 10 cmd command
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Using the latest version of windows 10 and window-eyes when I use the 
> cmd command everything just repeats over and over in the command 
> shell, Is this happening to anyone else? Any suggestions on a resolution?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: windows 10 cmd command

[John Covici via Talk]

OK, to fix, do altp-space in the command window, go to properties anc
check use legacy console or some such.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 08:30:47 -0500,
Joseph Norton via Talk wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I too have noticed this ever since I upgraded to Win 10 last year.
> 
> Hopefully, WE developers know about this, but.
> 
> However, right now, the only work-around I have found is to use NVDA
> whenever I need the command window.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
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> Behalf Of Jim Ruby via Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 1:41 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Subject: windows 10 cmd command
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Using the latest version of windows 10 and window-eyes when I use the cmd
> command everything just repeats over and over in the command shell, Is this
> happening to anyone else? Any suggestions on a resolution?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: Alternative Interface?

[Stan Gowin via Talk]

A major issue for multiple interfaces for the same software package in addition 
to the initial development time is the cost of additional support. If a bug is 
found, or a new feature is desired, the company potentially have to make two 
changes instead of one. A change to the version for the sighted user and a 
change to the alternative for the vision-impaired.

It is really better to build in accessibility from the start and have 
accessible interfaces on,ly. My experience with software for music and audio 
leads me to believe the issue is a lack of imagination. The developer, being 
sighted, can picture how she wants the set of “controls” to behave, so she 
designs a graphical model of the interface and has code behind it to perform 
various functions as that interface is manipulated with the mouse or other 
means. There is no conception of the interface other than a visual one.

It would be interesting to hear what successful blind musicians, composers, 
engineers and producers do to cope with all of this. 

Regards,
Stan

Sent from my Mac Mini   


> On Jan 15, 2017, at 5:36 PM, Dave via Talk  wrote:
> 
> When it comes to making items accessible.  When it comes to software,
> for years, I have wondered why a Software Company could not have two
> interfaces, one for the Sighted world, and one for the blind, that use
> screen readers.
> 
> And the choosing of which interface to use can be done the first time
> the software runs, or at any time after.  
> 
> I am a Musician that plays guitar and some Keyboard.  As Sonar became
> more and more complex, it seemed as if the accessibility shrank and
> shrank until the last three or four editions are almost useless to
> someone using a screen reader.  
> 
> JAWS seems to be a bit further ahead, when it comes to Scripts but even
> then, I don't know if they have done anything for reading any edition of
> Sonar past 8.X. 
> 
> There are software based Synthesizers, that are quite powerful that are
> for the most part off limits to someone using a screen reader. 
> Addictive Drums is a software package that simulates Drums, all kinds of
> drums.  Everything from the old time drum kits from the 1920's to the
> ultra modern Hip-Hop electronic drums sounds.  Loads of drum styles, and
> I start Drooling when I think of what I could do to improve the sound of
> my recordings, if only I had access to this Addictive Drum software
> package. But, last I checked, it isn't a package that is all that
> accessible.  
> 
> Same goes for some software based Guitar Pedal packages.  Loads of
> guitar effects, all customizable to my own tastes and it is all off
> limits.  Screen reader can't read the screens.  The one I wanted is
> absolutely silent.  
> 
> And for those you who think I am whining, think again.   Please don't
> insult me because I point out an area that I wish was available to me
> and others.  
> 
> I wondered if it would be possible to have a second main screen, this
> one friendly to screen readers etc.  
> 
> How much would it cost the Company to add such a screen?  Don't know. 
> Don't know how much effort it would take to make such a screen.  
> 
> I dream of such screens for all of the software that I find less than
> friendly to screen reader usage.  
> 
> What if it took another week or two of development, or even another
> month of development time.  Would you pay another $100 extra to have
> such a accessible screen? I know I would.  
> 
> Companies that make an attempt to make their software Screen Reader
> Friendly, seem to make the attempt to making their main screens
> accessible.  have no idea if they have ever considered making an
> alternative screen for their programs use by the Blind.  
> 
> Today when pricing is so competitive, and Companies are striving to be
> the cheapest, even if it is by a Dollar or two under their competitors
> product, I don't know how willing some company would be to add a Screen
> Reader friendly interface, if doing that will cause their products price
> to rise by $100.  
> 
> 
> Grumpy Dave
> 
> 
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Disk cloning software?

[Bob Tinney via Talk]

Anyone have recommendations for disk cloning software that works well 
with W E?



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RE: windows 10 cmd command

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Hi:

That's what I get for not checking out the properties dialog.

Thanks much!

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: windows 10 cmd command

Thanks Rod!

Just followed your instructions and the problem is solved!  Thanks Again,
that was becoming a bit more than annoying.

  Catch Ya Later de
.
On 16-Jan-17 08:53, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Joseph and Jim,
>
> Actually, I just figured out how to fix this.
> If you open the command shell, and press Alt-spacebar, you'll activate the
system menu for the command shell window.
> If you arrow down to Properties, and press Enter, you'll be in a multi-tab
dialog, and you'll be in the first tab, called Options.
> Simply tab to the check box named Use legacy console, check it, tab to Ok
and press Enter.
> As the check box label states, you will need to restart the command shell
window for the changes to take effect, but, once reopened, the repeating of
screen content no longer occurs.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:31 AM
> To: 'Jim Ruby' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> 
> Subject: RE: windows 10 cmd command
>
> Hi:
>
> I too have noticed this ever since I upgraded to Win 10 last year.
>
> Hopefully, WE developers know about this, but.
>
> However, right now, the only work-around I have found is to use NVDA 
> whenever I need the command window.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jim Ruby via Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 1:41 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Subject: windows 10 cmd command
>
> Hi,
>
> Using the latest version of windows 10 and window-eyes when I use the 
> cmd command everything just repeats over and over in the command 
> shell, Is this happening to anyone else? Any suggestions on a resolution?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Save As Type Not Showing up in Window-Eyes

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

I experienced this yesterday on my wife's computer, running Windows 7 
64-bit, while Outlook 2007 and Word 2007 were both running. I was trying to 
save the Word file in a different format. I think that in that instance 
Outlook was obscuring part of Word's Save-As dialog box; closing Outlook 
solved the problem.
Sometimes it's very hard to diagnose these problems if something opens on 
the screen and Window-Eyes cannot read it and you can't alt-Tab into it to 
see that it is running. This could happen with, for instance, the Dell 
"support" program that I have on my recent Dell desktop. I put Support in 
quotes because I can't read much of its output beyond its title bar, as I 
remember. Sometimes it's helpful to get someone over to look at your monitor 
and see if everything is squashed to one side or something that you don't 
expect.




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-Original Message- 
From: Pele West via Talk

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 4:55 AM
To: Windows Talk List
Subject: Save As Type Not Showing up in Window-Eyes

Hi Everyone

I am using Windows 7 professional and Window-Eyes 9.5.3.0. Last month I
bought a new Dell desktop computer.

Since Window-Eyes was installed on this machine I cannot see the SaveAs
Type in the SaveAs Dialog Box for most applications. It is there, I can
see it with the mouse pointer and I can use the arrow keys to change the
file type. NVDA can see it.

I have found it is not shown in the following programs:

Goldwave, Adobe Reader, Word 2010, Excel 2010 and Notepad.

I use Becky! as my e-mail client, and I can see the SaveAs File Type
when saving an e-mail message.

If I press  I land in the File Name, as expected. If I then
press  to the SaveAs Type combobox nothing speaks and nothing shows
up on the braille display.

I checked my husband's machine. He also has Window-eyes 9.5.3.0. The
SaveAS Type box shows up as a combobox. I tried reclassing the window as
a combobox on my machine but, although it says it is a combobox and it
is SaveAs Type, it does not actually show the different file types.

My husband's machine is an Acer Aspire running Windows 7 Home premium,
mine is running Windows 7 Professional. They are both 64-bit versions.

I contacted AI Squared who were unable to replicate this problem,
although I do know someone who has the same issue. AI Squared advised me
to uninstall Window-Eyes using the WE Emergency Remove Tool and install
it using a version of the installation they sent to me. It has made no
difference.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

Pele West




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Re: comparing wineyes and NVDA

[brice Mijares via Talk]

Check this site out, it's pretty informative. I believe yes to all your 
questions. I too am learning NVDA to replace wineyes in the event it 
goes away.

http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/
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Re: windows 10 cmd command

[Jim via Talk]

Thanks Rod!

Just followed your instructions and the problem is solved!  Thanks 
Again, that was becoming a bit more than annoying.


 Catch Ya Later de
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On 16-Jan-17 08:53, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Joseph and Jim,

Actually, I just figured out how to fix this.
If you open the command shell, and press Alt-spacebar, you'll activate the 
system menu for the command shell window.
If you arrow down to Properties, and press Enter, you'll be in a multi-tab 
dialog, and you'll be in the first tab, called Options.
Simply tab to the check box named Use legacy console, check it, tab to Ok and 
press Enter.
As the check box label states, you will need to restart the command shell 
window for the changes to take effect, but, once reopened, the repeating of 
screen content no longer occurs.

Hth,

Rod


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:31 AM
To: 'Jim Ruby' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: windows 10 cmd command

Hi:

I too have noticed this ever since I upgraded to Win 10 last year.

Hopefully, WE developers know about this, but.

However, right now, the only work-around I have found is to use NVDA
whenever I need the command window.




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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 1:41 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: windows 10 cmd command

Hi,

Using the latest version of windows 10 and window-eyes when I use the cmd
command everything just repeats over and over in the command shell, Is this
happening to anyone else? Any suggestions on a resolution?

Thanks.

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Re: windows 10 cmd command

[Jim via Talk]

Yes! I wish there was some way to get it to stop..!

.


On 16-Jan-17 10:15, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

Yes, the same thing happens with me.

-Original Message- From: Jim Ruby via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 10:41 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: windows 10 cmd command

Hi,

Using the latest version of windows 10 and window-eyes when I use the cmd
command everything just repeats over and over in the command shell, Is 
this

happening to anyone else? Any suggestions on a resolution?

Thanks.

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comparing wineyes and NVDA

[BK via Talk]

Hello, can someone tell me what some of the main features in wineyes
are that NVDA does not have? For example, does NVDA have an invisible
cursor? Can you use the mouse pointer to read through a document? Also,
is there a way to get a list of NVDA hotkeys without installing the
program? All help is appreciated.

Butch
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Re: Called JAWS the other day

[Marvin Commerford via Talk]

Google's great for this.  For example in a google search put in nvda dec 
access and results will be there.  I wonder if Google would have a 
result explaining how Dec Access for NVDA relates in any way to Window-Eyes.



On 1/16/2017 8:46 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

I'd like to find the access32 add on for nvda.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:24 PM
To: Sky Mundell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

oh cool, then reverse that last answer i gave, sorry for the
incorrect info!

How cool is that?!

On 1/15/2017 3:14 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:

Hi, Yes you can use your dectalk express with NVDA.  You have to
download an
addon for it.

http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:11 PM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

Can I use my Dec-talk Express with NVDA?

Pastor Gil

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 7:00 AM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

Where does one get the access32 addon?  I have a friend who has started
using NVDA.

-Original Message-
From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:04 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

As far as NVDA voices I am currently using the Access32 add on and NVDA
sounds just like WE with the Decaccess32 voice for Window Eyes.
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RE: Alternative Interface?

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

Hi Dave,

I feel your pain. These days, the older I get, the more blind I feel. Using
a computer was fun in the 1990's and early 2000's, but as time went on,
things became more and more inaccessible. And I don't mean only for
computers. Purchasing a new stove or refrigerator these days that is fully
usable for blind people is difficult. Also, I have noticed that when you
tell someone on the phone that you are blind, these days they assume that
you mean legally blind, not totally blind. I think that part of the problem
is that the number of totally blind people is steadily shrinking. Other
thoughts, anyone?

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:36 PM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: Alternative Interface?

When it comes to making items accessible.  When it comes to software, for
years, I have wondered why a Software Company could not have two interfaces,
one for the Sighted world, and one for the blind, that use screen readers.

And the choosing of which interface to use can be done the first time the
software runs, or at any time after.  

I am a Musician that plays guitar and some Keyboard.  As Sonar became more
and more complex, it seemed as if the accessibility shrank and shrank until
the last three or four editions are almost useless to someone using a screen
reader.  

JAWS seems to be a bit further ahead, when it comes to Scripts but even
then, I don't know if they have done anything for reading any edition of
Sonar past 8.X. 

There are software based Synthesizers, that are quite powerful that are for
the most part off limits to someone using a screen reader. 
Addictive Drums is a software package that simulates Drums, all kinds of
drums.  Everything from the old time drum kits from the 1920's to the ultra
modern Hip-Hop electronic drums sounds.  Loads of drum styles, and I start
Drooling when I think of what I could do to improve the sound of my
recordings, if only I had access to this Addictive Drum software package.
But, last I checked, it isn't a package that is all that accessible.  

Same goes for some software based Guitar Pedal packages.  Loads of guitar
effects, all customizable to my own tastes and it is all off limits.  Screen
reader can't read the screens.  The one I wanted is absolutely silent.  

And for those you who think I am whining, think again.   Please don't
insult me because I point out an area that I wish was available to me and
others.  

I wondered if it would be possible to have a second main screen, this one
friendly to screen readers etc.  

How much would it cost the Company to add such a screen?  Don't know. 
Don't know how much effort it would take to make such a screen.  

I dream of such screens for all of the software that I find less than
friendly to screen reader usage.  

What if it took another week or two of development, or even another month of
development time.  Would you pay another $100 extra to have such a
accessible screen? I know I would.  

Companies that make an attempt to make their software Screen Reader
Friendly, seem to make the attempt to making their main screens accessible.
have no idea if they have ever considered making an alternative screen for
their programs use by the Blind.  

Today when pricing is so competitive, and Companies are striving to be the
cheapest, even if it is by a Dollar or two under their competitors product,
I don't know how willing some company would be to add a Screen Reader
friendly interface, if doing that will cause their products price to rise by
$100.  


Grumpy Dave


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Re: windows 10 cmd command

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

Yes, the same thing happens with me.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 10:41 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: windows 10 cmd command

Hi,

Using the latest version of windows 10 and window-eyes when I use the cmd
command everything just repeats over and over in the command shell, Is this
happening to anyone else? Any suggestions on a resolution?

Thanks.

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Re: Called JAWS the other day

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

I'd like to find the access32 add on for nvda.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:24 PM
To: Sky Mundell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

oh cool, then reverse that last answer i gave, sorry for the
incorrect info!

How cool is that?!

On 1/15/2017 3:14 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
Hi, Yes you can use your dectalk express with NVDA.  You have to download 
an

addon for it.

http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:11 PM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

Can I use my Dec-talk Express with NVDA?

Pastor Gil

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 7:00 AM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

Where does one get the access32 addon?  I have a friend who has started
using NVDA.

-Original Message-
From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:04 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

As far as NVDA voices I am currently using the Access32 add on and NVDA
sounds just like WE with the Decaccess32 voice for Window Eyes.
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Re: Called JAWS the other day

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

I have no idea.

-Original Message- 
From: Pastor Gil Pries

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:10 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

Can I use my Dec-talk Express with NVDA?

Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 7:00 AM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

Where does one get the access32 addon?  I have a friend who has started
using NVDA.

-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:04 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Called JAWS the other day

As far as NVDA voices I am currently using the Access32 add on and NVDA
sounds just like WE with the Decaccess32 voice for Window Eyes.
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Re: Save As Type Not Showing up in Window-Eyes

[Tony C via Talk]

Sounds like you may need to do an emergency removal of WE and then reinstall 
it.


-Original Message- 
From: Pele West via Talk

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 3:55 AM
To: Windows Talk List
Subject: Save As Type Not Showing up in Window-Eyes

Hi Everyone

I am using Windows 7 professional and Window-Eyes 9.5.3.0. Last month I
bought a new Dell desktop computer.

Since Window-Eyes was installed on this machine I cannot see the SaveAs
Type in the SaveAs Dialog Box for most applications. It is there, I can
see it with the mouse pointer and I can use the arrow keys to change the
file type. NVDA can see it.

I have found it is not shown in the following programs:

Goldwave, Adobe Reader, Word 2010, Excel 2010 and Notepad.

I use Becky! as my e-mail client, and I can see the SaveAs File Type
when saving an e-mail message.

If I press  I land in the File Name, as expected. If I then
press  to the SaveAs Type combobox nothing speaks and nothing shows
up on the braille display.

I checked my husband's machine. He also has Window-eyes 9.5.3.0. The
SaveAS Type box shows up as a combobox. I tried reclassing the window as
a combobox on my machine but, although it says it is a combobox and it
is SaveAs Type, it does not actually show the different file types.

My husband's machine is an Acer Aspire running Windows 7 Home premium,
mine is running Windows 7 Professional. They are both 64-bit versions.

I contacted AI Squared who were unable to replicate this problem,
although I do know someone who has the same issue. AI Squared advised me
to uninstall Window-Eyes using the WE Emergency Remove Tool and install
it using a version of the installation they sent to me. It has made no
difference.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

Pele West




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Re: moving bookshare books to a SD card

[Dave via Talk]

Put the SD card in the slot.  Know what the Drive letter that is
assigned to that card, such as E:, or F:, or G: etc.  

Go to the Download folder and open it to see the files in it.  

Arrow down to the file you want on the SD card.  

Press Shift-F10.

Then arrow down till you get to SEND To and press the Right Arrow key.

Now down arrow until you land on the drive that is the SD card.  Now
press the Enter Key.this will move a copy of the file to the SD card.  

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RE: windows 10 cmd command

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Joseph and Jim,

Actually, I just figured out how to fix this.
If you open the command shell, and press Alt-spacebar, you'll activate the 
system menu for the command shell window.
If you arrow down to Properties, and press Enter, you'll be in a multi-tab 
dialog, and you'll be in the first tab, called Options.
Simply tab to the check box named Use legacy console, check it, tab to Ok and 
press Enter.
As the check box label states, you will need to restart the command shell 
window for the changes to take effect, but, once reopened, the repeating of 
screen content no longer occurs.

Hth,

Rod


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:31 AM
To: 'Jim Ruby' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: windows 10 cmd command

Hi:

I too have noticed this ever since I upgraded to Win 10 last year.

Hopefully, WE developers know about this, but.

However, right now, the only work-around I have found is to use NVDA
whenever I need the command window.




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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 1:41 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: windows 10 cmd command

Hi, 

Using the latest version of windows 10 and window-eyes when I use the cmd
command everything just repeats over and over in the command shell, Is this
happening to anyone else? Any suggestions on a resolution?

Thanks.

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RE: windows 10 cmd command

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Hi:

I too have noticed this ever since I upgraded to Win 10 last year.

Hopefully, WE developers know about this, but.

However, right now, the only work-around I have found is to use NVDA
whenever I need the command window.




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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 1:41 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: windows 10 cmd command

Hi, 

Using the latest version of windows 10 and window-eyes when I use the cmd
command everything just repeats over and over in the command shell, Is this
happening to anyone else? Any suggestions on a resolution?

Thanks.

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RE: Alternative Interface?

[Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk]

Well, Rick, why should a manufacturer or an app developer be held to any
standard, whether high or low, with respect to accessibility when the
government itself does not honor the law it has crafted?  Can you explain to
me why, despite the ADA, the U.S. dollar bill remains largely inaccessible
to the blind?  Why do you and I need to use some useless extra gadget in
order to READ the dollar bill when other sighted folks don't have to do the
same?  

It's so easy to blame or point accusing fingers at app developers and
manufacturers; let's not be complacent, our government is equally guilty
when it comes to accessibility issues.  Do our court provide materials in an
accessible format even when requested?  Has IRS ever sent you information in
an accessible format such as Braille or audio at your request?  If you hold
a travel passport, is your passport number ever printed in both Braille and
print? 

I can go on citing examples of government stupidity, but I'm sure you
already get the point.  If government obeys the laws it makes, other
entities will do their best possible to stay compliant.  I can cite other
examples, but I'll wait till someone attempts to answer the questions raised
herein.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 


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RE: Save As Type Not Showing up in Window-Eyes

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Pele,

Sometimes focus is grabbed by Window-Eyes if the mouse pointer gets in the way.
Try using the top left, top right, etc. mouse movement keys to route the mouse 
pointer to one of the corners of the desktop window before Alt-tabbing to the 
window you want to work with.
This might help; I hope it does. (smile)

Good luck,

Rod

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On Behalf Of Pele West via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 4:56 AM
To: Windows Talk List 
Subject: Save As Type Not Showing up in Window-Eyes

Hi Everyone

I am using Windows 7 professional and Window-Eyes 9.5.3.0. Last month I
bought a new Dell desktop computer.

Since Window-Eyes was installed on this machine I cannot see the SaveAs
Type in the SaveAs Dialog Box for most applications. It is there, I can
see it with the mouse pointer and I can use the arrow keys to change the
file type. NVDA can see it.

I have found it is not shown in the following programs:

Goldwave, Adobe Reader, Word 2010, Excel 2010 and Notepad.

I use Becky! as my e-mail client, and I can see the SaveAs File Type
when saving an e-mail message.

If I press  I land in the File Name, as expected. If I then
press  to the SaveAs Type combobox nothing speaks and nothing shows
up on the braille display.

I checked my husband's machine. He also has Window-eyes 9.5.3.0. The
SaveAS Type box shows up as a combobox. I tried reclassing the window as
a combobox on my machine but, although it says it is a combobox and it
is SaveAs Type, it does not actually show the different file types.

My husband's machine is an Acer Aspire running Windows 7 Home premium,
mine is running Windows 7 Professional. They are both 64-bit versions.

I contacted AI Squared who were unable to replicate this problem,
although I do know someone who has the same issue. AI Squared advised me
to uninstall Window-Eyes using the WE Emergency Remove Tool and install
it using a version of the installation they sent to me. It has made no
difference.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

Pele West




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RE: reading PDFs

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Olusegun,

I've cc'd this message to the talk list as well.
Here's a link describing how to set up the reading of PDFs for best 
accessibility:

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/display-pdf-in-browser.html

hth,

Rod

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From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. 
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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 10:55 PM
To: 'Rod Hutton' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: reading PDFs

How can I stop PDF files from opening in the browser?  I once knew how, but
with Acrobat Reader Pro DC, no luck!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: Alternative Interface?

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi Dave:
Amps and effects peddles are indeed a problem for blind people but then so
are washing machines, stoves and just about everything flat panel or touch
screen these days unless regulated by government or where some type of audio
I/O helps sighted folks.
There are usually some not too expensive work-arounds that can be
implemented by the companies but why should they if it doesn't increase
their bottom line - I wouldn't and don't.
I don't care if you or any other blind person can use my products, you are
too small, lower income a group to be of concern to me compared to the
massive sighted community market.
Sure, I feel sorry for you but it is your job to get government to setup and
enforce regulations on all of us vendors or I will not provide one minute of
work twoard accessibility if my competition doesn't have to do  it.
You can find a sighted person to help you setup and adjust your equipment
during gigs or find a third party company who will help develop some
hardware to make the equipment you want to use accessible - that is what
charaties are for and why they don't have to pay taxes.  
Perhaps you can go to some church and beg for help.
God Bless and, truly,  good luck:
A Good Capitalist Man

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