Re: [Talk-at] Deklination
Hallo Friedrich, wahrscheinlich kennst Du die Daten der ZAMG, aber schadet ja nicht: https://www.zamg.ac.at/cms/de/forschung/geophysik/magnetik/ geomagnetische-erfassung-des-bundesgebietes-1 http://www.zamg.ac.at/cms/de/geophysik/produkte-und-services-1/ online-deklinationsrechner Die müssten die Daten haben, ev. hilft eine Anfrage. LG Wolfgang ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-co] [HOT] Fwd: Resultado Convocatoria de Proyectos Día Mundial Humanitario
Thank you Blake, Robert and Felix! This is a new recognition about HOT value based in this wonderful mix of social and technology innovation in humanitarian context. Specially to this dedicated-passion mappers in Colombia, that beyond than aerial imagery tracing, get ready to go on the field to gather ground-truth data and high resolution post-disaster imagery using drones. Felix, you can see project presentation form here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CbciLSjxvC6d6NbK6FPLIifOlnOpvnwuDKR5WPHz7iQ/edit?usp=sharing At the end you can find a list of project related URLs. Thanks a lot to all the people and institutions involved: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10JVBgPy-fhYUXpXH8rgiryNpcSS6UDQ4W-w2pYh8klY/edit?usp=sharing Best! Humberto Yances 2015-08-11 12:39 GMT-05:00 Felix Delattre felix.delat...@hotosm.org: This is awesome! Humberto, do you have any materials (maybe in Spanish) about this? Could be a presentation, or some article, etc. I would like to use this as an example here in Nicaragua. Thanks and congratulations! Felix On 08/11/2015 10:47 AM, Robert Banick wrote: Fantastic news! Congratulations Humberto and everyone else! — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM, blake_girardot bgirardot+nab...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations Humberto! This is really cool! Cheers, Blake -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Fwd-Resultado-Convocatoria-de-Proyectos-Dia-Mundial-Humanitario-tp5852105p5852112.html Sent from the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap (HOT) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing listHOT@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-at] Deklination
On 11.08.2015 22:58, Wolfgang Schreiter wrote: wahrscheinlich kennst Du die Daten der ZAMG [...] Die müssten die Daten haben, ev. hilft eine Anfrage. Die ZAMG ist ebenso wie das BEV ein auf Profit ausgerichtetes Unternehmen. Die geben die Daten nur gegen Cash her. Natürlich kann man sie mal auf gut Glück anschreiben, aber ich sehe da wenig Aussicht auf eine einmalige Lösung und gar keine auf eine dauerhafte. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[OSM-talk-fr] Démolition église
Bonjour, Un petit sujet à propos des démolitions d'églises, qui vont s'accélérer au cours des prochaines décennies. Exemple en cours: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/79764725 http://www.estrepublicain.fr/edition-belfort-hericourt-montbeliard/2015/08/11/belfort-la-demolition-de-la-cure-de-notre-dame-des-anges-a-commence Comment bien dé-cartographier le bâtiment? Sachant que sur les églises, il y a en général un ou plusieurs points géodésiques (clocher ou borne granit? Donat ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-es] imprimir mapas
Gracias por vuestras respuestas. Matías, ya tenemos pensado usar maposmatic para el imprimir el mapa final, o cuando pensemos que hemos volcado datos suficientes y los queremos tener en papel. En cuanto a QGIS, no tengo conocimientos para hacer lo que dices, Carlos. Si conoces algún tutorial que me introduzca en el tema te lo agradecería. Muchas gracias a los dos El 10/8/2015, a las 19:50, Carlos Dávila cdavi...@orangecorreo.es escribió: Si te manejas con QGIS puedes importar los datos de OSM de las zonas que te interesen y personalizar fácilmente la forma de representar cada elemento en el mapa El 10/08/15 a las 19:29, Matías Taborda Barroso escribió: Hola. Para imprimir mapas, creo que Maposmatic.org es una buena opción.. Buenas tardes a todos, necesito un poco de orientación con este tema. Quiero recopilar información de algunos pueblos de la comarca de Antequera, la idea es recopilar datos a pie de calle con algún soporte en papel. He intentado con walking-papers pero parece que no está operativo desde hace un tiempo. He probado con Field papers pero no termina de descargar nada, esperando más de una hora. Que puedo hacer? me podéis orientar un poco? hay otras alternativas? muchas gracias a todos ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-de] Berliner OSM-Stammtisch am Freitag 14.08.2015 (nicht am 13.08.)
Guten Morgen, On 10.08.2015 12:02, lars lingner wrote: Hallo, am kommenden Donnerstag den 13.08.2015 findet der regelmäßige Stammtisch [1] von OSM und FOSSGIS statt. Ich muss mich korrigieren: Der Stammtisch findet am Freitag (14.08.) und nicht am Donnerstag (13.08.) statt. Im Wiki ist alles korrekt, nur in meinem Kopf war es wohl etwas zu warm... Bitte verzeiht die Verwirrung. Viele Grüße aus Berlin Lars [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Berlin/Stammtisch ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
Hi Russ, I would suggest you contact who is saying that or deleting it (if you can see who that is,) and talk to them, nicely, about your concerns. I bet it's just that people probably aren't familiar with the concept of abandoned railroads as a tag. If they don't see a railroad track where there's a railroad tag, they probably just delete it, thinking that's what you do. The unused: tag (or whatever you use) is not super well known, in my opinion. From reading your message I am guessing you are quite familiar with railroads, but most people aren't. I've had a similar problem where people delete new buildings that are still empty lots on Bing. Not vandalism, just a lack of understanding. Andrew Sent from my iTelegraph On Aug 11, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Okay, this has to stop. It just has to stop. Whoever is saying Yes, go ahead and delete abandoned railroads wherever you don't see a railroad has to stop it. They just HAVE to stop it, because people are using that advice to vandalize the map. Now, you might think Goddamnit, does Russell have to start again? Yes, I have to start again. I was in north-western Pennsylvania last weekend looking for the Corry Junction Rail Trail. Problem: it hasn't been entered into OSM yet. But that's not a problem, right? Because OF COURSE the railway is there, marked as abandoned, right? It isn't. And I couldn't find the damned trail because the Traillink description is inadequate. I finally just drove around where the trail HAD to be, and found it. This is unacceptable because: 1) on the bing aerials you can see where the railroad went perfectly fine. It's a line that goes through people's yards, there is a node from the TIGER data where it used to cross the roads, there is a tree line the whole way, buildings are aligned to the railbed, people's driveways bend out of the way of the railbed, etc. 2) THERE ARE STILL FREAKING RAILS ON THE SOUTH END. What the hell?? This is crazy stuff, it's just crazy. Yes, they're not very long, but they're still connected to the national railroad network. How can somebody legitimately delete that's obviously there? Answer: they can't. and worst: 3) The majority of it is a rail-trail. And not y'know, two weedy ruts from an ATV trespassing. No, this rail-trail has a stone dust base, permissive gates (with a hole not big enough for an ATV), and tactile crossings. This is a *serious* rail-trail. And the railroad way that would be the trail got deleted. If you have ever said delete things you don't see, then you need to shut the hell up, because you are making the map worse. Just stop! When is it okay to delete things you can't see? Only if it's untouched TIGER data and you've been there and didn't see it. That's the only time. Otherwise somebody put that thing into OSM, and they probably know something you don't. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
Hi, On 08/11/2015 07:09 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Now, you might think Goddamnit, does Russell have to start again? Yes, I have to start again. I was in north-western Pennsylvania last weekend looking for the Corry Junction Rail Trail. Problem: it hasn't been entered into OSM yet. But that's not a problem, right? Because OF COURSE the railway is there, marked as abandoned, right? Errr... you are looking for a trail that follows an abandoned railway line, and you complain that the abandoned railway line is missing from OSM? If you were complaining that the trail isn't there then I'd understand, and you'd have my full support for adding it. But complaining instead that the abandoned railway isn't there...? 1) on the bing aerials you can see where the railroad went perfectly fine. It's a line that goes through people's yards, there is a node from the TIGER data where it used to cross the roads, there is a tree line the whole way, buildings are aligned to the railbed, people's driveways bend out of the way of the railbed, etc. Yes, and therefore it is totally ok to map the buildings as they are, the bent driveways, and other stuff that is there. This is not an excuse to map an abandoned railway that isn't there. I can understand that mapping historical railway lines is of interest to some. I find it a very interesting topic myself, and I'd love to have a project where I can simply say give me the railway landscape as it was in 1915. People who come up with a project to make that happen have my respect. OpenStreetMap, however, is not that project. 2) THERE ARE STILL FREAKING RAILS ON THE SOUTH END. What the hell?? This is crazy stuff, it's just crazy. Yes, they're not very long, but they're still connected to the national railroad network. How can somebody legitimately delete that's obviously there? Answer: they can't. No, surely not, if there are actual rails on the ground then I'd say they should be mapped. An abandoned railway line having some rails in some places is not, however, sufficient reason to map the whole abandoned railway line even where tracks are removed. 3) The majority of it is a rail-trail. And not y'know, two weedy ruts from an ATV trespassing. No, this rail-trail has a stone dust base, permissive gates (with a hole not big enough for an ATV), and tactile crossings. This is a *serious* rail-trail. I see nothing against mapping this rail-trail as a proper track on OSM if that's what it is today. Just not as an abandoned railway. Anyone who maps the trail as an abandoned railway with an intended side meaning of there also being a trail will risk this information to be removed; map it as what it is, instead of what it was, and you'll be fine. And the railroad way that would be the trail got deleted. Yes, the trail should have been mapped as a trail, not as a railroad. If you have ever said delete things you don't see, then you need to shut the hell up, because you are making the map worse. Just stop! Delete things you don't see (with some notable exceptions, abandoned railways not being among them). Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
On 11/08/2015 4:37 PM, Andrew Wiseman wrote: Hi Russ, I would suggest you contact who is saying that or deleting it (if you can see who that is,) and talk to them, nicely, about your concerns. I bet it's just that people probably aren't familiar with the concept of abandoned railroads as a tag. If they don't see a railroad track where there's a railroad tag, they probably just delete it, thinking that's what you do. The unused: tag (or whatever you use) is not super well known, in my opinion. Appears to be a continuing problem. https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/33455/what-happened-to-the-abandoned-railroads In part it may arise from the OSM mantra 'tag what is on the ground'. If the abandoned railway is now a 'rail trail' then it should be tagged as a path/track, as that is what is on the ground. the tag is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dabandoned and says A tag to map former railways, where the rails have been removed but the route is still visible in some way. If the rails are still in place userailway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:railway=disused http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Ddisused instead. That does lack any link to rail trial tagging... in fact OSM looks to lack any guide on 'rail trails'. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dividing houses with returns as terrace
On 8 August 2015 at 16:36, Brian Hollinshead br...@hollinshead.net wrote: I have routinely used the terracer plugin in JOSM to divide a long/single building into a set of terraced houses. Recently I was talking OSM to a librarian from Casimir Road, Harolds Cross, Dublin, I asked would he like to share the house numbers with me if I added the outlines first. He readily agreed. When I got home I found someone has already kindly added most of the buildings carefully showing the return in each case. I cannot get the terracer plugin to like trying to divide such a building into two equal rectangular halves. I have only ever achieved that by drawing a large outline of the terrace, then drawing the lines to split the houses and manually splitting the outline into several houses. Very tedious, so I don't bother these days, choosing to terrace as a block and add the house numbers, which I find to be more important than the shape. Regards, Nick ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
Hi deleting abandoned railways if they are still clearly visible on the ground isn't okay. Near my hometown we have one of these rail trails. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/247337009 It has been a light rail track and now it is used as asphalt cycle way. As you can see it is tagged as railway=abandoned and as highway=cycleway and gets rendered as cycleway. So it seems the tagging and rendering should be fine for this kind of ways. As Andrew already said, try to talk with the one who deleted the railways. In this case it might be a problem: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30174498 The person only made two changesets four months ago. In the future the best practice might be: - Check who deleted the railway (for example using http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/) - try to contact the person (don't be harsh! allways try assume they made it by accident or lack of knowledge) - revert the changeset/part of the chagneset Reverting the changeset without the permission of the the person might lead to an edit war so becareful. 2015-08-11 8:59 GMT+02:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 11/08/2015 4:37 PM, Andrew Wiseman wrote: Hi Russ, I would suggest you contact who is saying that or deleting it (if you can see who that is,) and talk to them, nicely, about your concerns. I bet it's just that people probably aren't familiar with the concept of abandoned railroads as a tag. If they don't see a railroad track where there's a railroad tag, they probably just delete it, thinking that's what you do. The unused: tag (or whatever you use) is not super well known, in my opinion. Appears to be a continuing problem. https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/33455/what-happened-to-the-abandoned-railroads In part it may arise from the OSM mantra 'tag what is on the ground'. If the abandoned railway is now a 'rail trail' then it should be tagged as a path/track, as that is what is on the ground. the tag is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dabandoned and says A tag to map former railways, where the rails have been removed but the route is still visible in some way. If the rails are still in place use railway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:railway=disused http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Ddisused instead. That does lack any link to rail trial tagging... in fact OSM looks to lack any guide on 'rail trails'. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Gerichtsbezirke mappen?
Michael Reichert wrote on 11.08.2015 00:41: *Stirnrunzel* Ich würde gerne Mal andere Meinungen zu folgender Relation lesen. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5421471/history Ist OSM der richtige Ort dafür? Wäre das bei Wikidata nicht besser aufgehoben? Da es hier um keine Fläche sondern um eine Hierarchie geht, ist das in Wikidata gut abbildbar und auch besser aufgehoben. -- Grüße Holger ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
Le 10/08/2015 23:51, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit : Bonsoir, Le 10/08/2015 23:40, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : C'est moi qui est mis en évidence ce qui m'étonne : ODbL/DbCL mais pas d'utilisation commerciale sans payer si l'utilisation commerciale n'est pas gratuite. Ça pourrait faire plaisir à PSS, mais ça me semble contradictoire. Qu'en pensez-vous ? Le plus direct dans ce cas serait de les contacter en ciblant explicitement l'intégration dans OSM. Une réponse (idéalement une autorisation) non ambigüe, écrite, déposée dans le wiki, éviterait de tergiverser. Je ne suis pas allez voir la source. Mais il n'y a pas de contradiction pour moi. C'est un diffusion en double licence. Si tu veux échapper à l'ODbL tu souscrits à une utilisation commercial. Frdédéric. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] 献血ルームについて
柴田(あ)と申します。 骨髄移植ドナーを二回やったことがあります。 その縁で DLI というのもやったことがあります。 osm と関係ない話題で申し訳ありませんが… On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:39:11 +0900 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp wrote: HLA ですか。多分どこの献血センターでも申し込めばHLAの調査は していると思います。 骨髄移植関連事業をしている骨髄バンクと 血液関連の事業をしている日本赤十字社は別法人なので、 直接的には関係なく、たぶん申し込まないと調査は しないハズです。 わたくしは、スレッドにもでてきた所沢の献血ルームで 骨髄バンクの勧誘員？な女性に「登録しないか？」と 聞かれて、断る理由もなかったし、試験管一本分血液採取が 増えるだけだということだったので、登録を容認しました。 なお、骨髄移植ドナーになっても HLA の型は教えてもらえません。 ML の趣旨とは違うので、もっとお知りになりたい方は直接 メールをくだされば、可能な範囲で回答いたします。 一応当方の二回の体験に関しては当方のメアドと骨髄移植という キーワードで検索すると見つかると思います。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
On 11/08/2015 06:09, Russ Nelson wrote: Okay, this has to stop. ... Here's what seems to have happened. Via P1 undelete you can see: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/11896835/history Someone's spotted that the TIGER way is iffy (via P1 it's possible to see that it clearly was), and they're starting to draw it in more accurately (in their next changeset, in fact). Unfortunately that then got deleted here by someone (who's now the subject of a long-term block): http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/131281945/history It got re-added a year ago: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24647010 and deleted 4 months ago: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/259134943/history by someone who's made exactly 2 edits to OSM, so I suspect this example is a cockup rather than a conspiracy. As everyone else has already said, a changeset discussion comment saying something appears to have gone wrong; can I help would surely be the way forward here? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-pe] Río Tigre
El 11/08/15 a las 07:51, Marco Antonio escribió: Omar, Johnattan y quien lea les parece bien que añadamos al Task Manager HOT esta tarea de mapeo? Así tenemos control del mapeo, el progreso y qué falta por avanzar. Tenemos casi todo salvo la guía para mapear cada elemento (río, lagunas, caminos) y las fuentes (con licencia abierta si hubiese)... pero no es mucho. +1 a agregarlo al task manager, un río entero no está mal... Río Tigre: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2737797#map=11/-4.3909/-74.2360layers=N He puesto en el pad también las etiquetas que tiene el río por si vemos que falta alguna: boat= yes destination = Marañón name = Rio Tigre type = waterway waterway = river wikidata = Q1636709 wikipedia = en:Tigre River Y por último, en el Pad también he señalado algunos de los lugares que me encontré en el camino, creo que ponerlos en algún lugar nos ayudará a identificarlos en otro momento: agrupados en dos secciones: Comunidades amazónicas Cuerpos de agua Revisen el pad. ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe
[Talk-at] Deklination
Auf http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag-web/#declination und http://www.gfz-potsdam.de/deklinationsrechner/ kann man die Deklination nach zwei verschiedenen Modellen berechnen lassen, aber die Ergebnisse sind nicht ganz gleich. Welches Modell ist für AT genauer? Gibt es irgendwo eine aktuelle (d.h. max. 1 Jahr alte), auf Messungen basierende Deklinationskarte für AT? Sehr hilfreich wär auch eine Linie in der Natur, die man für die Kalibrierung nutzen kann, z.B. eine genau geografisch S-N verlaufende, gerade Straße mit wenig Verkehr, oder einen Punkt, von dem man einen Kirchturm genau in geografischer Nordrichtung sieht, oder zwei auf dem selben Meridian liegende Gipfel. Kennt jemand sowas? Wichtig ist dabei natürlich, dass nichts Metallisches (Gipfelkreuz, Laternenmasten...) in der Nähe des Blickpunkts ist. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-es] Mapeo de rutas de bus
Muchas gracias, es un ejemplo muy completo. Las dos últimas dudas (perdonad, pero dependiendo de las respuestas, surgen unas u otras). Teniendo en cuenta http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport lo que debería hacer en cada parada es un nodo public_transport=stop_position en la carretera (por así decirlo) y un public_transport=platform a su lado para indicar dónde se apea la gente. 1 - ¿Esto último es aplicable tambien a las paradas que no tienen propiamente una zona, como las que son solo un palo? 2 - Se da el caso de que en algunas, en una vía de doble sentido hay paradas una justo enfrente de la otra pero con nombres diferentes (por ejemplo, http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/669639885 y http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3684591877). Según la documentación ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport#Examples), tendría que tener un nodo stop_position que compartirían dos platforms. ¿En ese caso, los nombres de parada irian en el nodo stop_position o en el platform? Muchas gracias, Sergio. -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: SKS 1.1.5 Comment: Hostname: pgp.mit.edu mQINBFVHIooBEAC47yLtG15U3NVj/8s4HEohU1V7UOE1trV9E6U8xMV++bHiffAldF1rlCJ3 MzwZCVb4QU88F8w8cQO6LRbVhwgtXam5NXetqYfWhV3VBe9CYZ2S+S+GFrhvSDnpO8/+e8QE fC6XDaFR44Hz1xQ9wcpaovWkFR/eK1nmeq5pUGWcb7nIi//ElMhgVp8Z8g/vQhRPhxhiuWMK 0MaN4R/+kYU6/3m3SA2OBuJwwLddzXZh3baX9/eMBVuEbVyuh/vaKt63loLBEaOBdWNAVRd9 tmbZAEa9SbPb/oUYq1ichWuJwq66b3tRUKbowbk4qQHEr10CTBhGPt8kY+dlLF2e4j5Ah6bi UEGPbnhBG6BP5GVndiGTcAzd1yNI1SPtx1gXlimrWSM8jzqjljbVjxCQm6ogsNpnXj+A7peL nKf3Ep7TL4P8Aa7ubEoET0Yzxv0kA5n4fPX6XEnF6GufNetVmfxxjr930EnBU4oJAWNrcw8K uQzqysOHWIW7ztxL4VB4jmmOBB4XeUEqgwAOMwECY5CpQRCk+igdXTx6qVYDzasTaF6TG512 +lwIIhNEYBVv3cGwWg/PjSRVN7dRXnvCfRMUNxDsZQH1anmCSJRyGFjilEjMhMUsCQZtFNG6 1NKFvEFVSAI5EICqAfN27Bidy+BzfhrXjUd8AxHky6S3Mj+NrwARAQABtC1TZXJnaW8gR2Fy Y2lhIFZpbGxhbG9uZ2EgPHlheWFsb3NlQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAjgEEwECACIFAlVHIooCGwMG CwkIBwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEBEyOVOGK9uqETwP/Ay9S49YFNTIn8t2XZ0f 3Mhl1RqD5cSc5Vn2eOSMiR5Hc4iWv2ogz8DN4j5wF913nA4f8pDgLpaQXbG0HlW6Ajo57z/T 1Ct89ItKA3NJSGB+vlU+mlrQQ9Ks0zqIPstPZZCZClU0Blvm9U8b9FftnRl+kbSQ8eNFMtpW 7zk+0a2VSM3ftDA5Om0b3HuWQorKP8JOpw6RAW8K2dFhSShKAmZdFTHkJ9bSNCl7tXzRr1+k 1uVbGVMUt+lcSoQuhHv5frNPYw+cXHEOP5Up3yINf9Hrvr3CTES/k7T0utmrJsI6iucOr1gf hyG189tjcLEYtvlcIxZgBnPop90BdusCScDcUb+syL+Ya2CaK/6QNlmK18ALUPhwyKcNb1th UuxnL+X0ffFvDnVsXYq0BY0OnVv7eHoJphyHy2uKf2OSqGP6AOuLTzPUIYQtyzbttLw1Zxgf 34NCyxwycYmFf83wCuLq6SI3rxkVnxNm3QzsV/CBiIkWV2pHC2Die168PYTIOrApVHvyZff4 paFiYhT2TkRko9645U/6kqzKTHOB7vyM4wEXwYYRE5GEw1SyVfTvT9M4L4v/PtefZ7TuM8Pu yw1pRKNB1+CYPIBlh3VYVvM5rbuZ5/4tPdQbZWWM4uOrikQslsDymX38+dYRUQwbzLIEcBt1 zaNb9snBTbGMZAlluQINBFVHIooBEADyICmTx2Qrznhc21rPdyXI9oE7XEyqY3Q1/DdPQky7 O62QbbP6vXyEZySlFqtRs59oqH58Ml1MBE0YhV+kJdBAEqkPxN0wLpJe945V5zYyNzPHDRsc flHyid6DV7Faku5eZQCklxeKrSa6R/6+dP/PPersxFfTy4cO8jaVV4gOy6lQYJoFP1a9geAM WwBRyZXRF4l3XtliuVcdBf71JhIF0BEYUFHA1Bm0ooZZDx3REc1/I4lW/lgbW9BN1NmPo0Zy 3sj/ikZPXA7wpAXnulhZHYQL5yVyODZEJD7j7lwbuscO+l+i6wDKolAiLj2tCrRZhfuAbibH q84StLw32zG7+7eviXaQzV6xAByqBhZY7I3u5XLU0mK6gH81Yf+wPxpliWFtjfy8LPtqcPT/ kz0ipRA0Ou4yF533BykfEEX1s08LUYc3Glgx0uGtVgrK8r6vaeL2K4IvndVWD9jtI9ArPkur hjxzkAkz7dhhLqqGezUrL7UPxgv+Wcv6fjchrktqutuSQe23has5KlsknY3FevDQ8o0/0Yhm tATwbOqO8O4vP/4vJ3OAHWdDDJNvk625VZ78pfosplZx27kSQbxMbrVFdCFPl49bGTaFMtJO BuQdR2M54SSI/OwKm3wVTscZ9wdn380I27HitfhPIuy7ieq/HVUBBpoE1tX+fNPIIQARAQAB iQIfBBgBAgAJBQJVRyKKAhsMAAoJEBEyOVOGK9uqGTkP/2G1CU9ogBc7gBRhCwVOyZ/+JqFh OgqzrFtQwDuTzxBTRnQV2IDLv3QHsfI9o6qYTLr1+YstDftEuXoYg/e5QwiSBlmyhLdBllbH pY7L1e4H3tJHqXm+En23BlDmjwfiYoPkhQ8Y14i56zE4A06z0iko40CmmTCkknPKfwsNZ1Oj ZUlsJ8GPV3J5rk0w0uodhiuc9aa70TSKxOpAMuQM/EV57d9aFhe+K6aY+4JnZrrH4WnJBoMr F5/65vjP+TdsaXtFUszu1ZOtYH3abPB/oKqXK4d21dAKXYYDLaisPh5WeF3uwO0QRb2Rd6/D 1Er1QcBSQ0IT6yhwNbW2N409HLdOWOVHDzLRKt+jaLLheXfMJMD8Sx+3x3i9NGDqLlE5KCFO a4tE2mToqwWpnb3Lfx3GhCJtnj/9mujVVEWmtGJw4VAAWAKxr0EUoZceblR44pHiVifaraJC FzlfuleYBYpVHqp5D9zLh9lVDafhwDTPjmcTWulVg0wVz38y0XFTZLsXa4Yo8b35z3u+nAqm hvDv3pEampkuSHdB9GI7rGCc28adWNzmGt6N0GiIphCr2UUxsWZe3n+RxOLJJ/KIWYfJ9Rlx NpWcgg5v+PJWW/8GGg1Q/kjsHT/BG3Pp4Mgk1qLvyudoP/nKKU97JOTu3cvAMzer22ACrtqn VGVHqIBa =R9my -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- 2015-08-11 13:27 GMT+02:00 Carlos Cabezas r0u...@r0uzic.net: Hola Sergio, El orden correcto de la relación de la ruta es desde el origen hasta el destino, ordenado así - Parada de bus 1 - Plataforma 1 - Parada de bus 2 - Plataforma 2 - Ruta Te puede servir de ejemplo esta ruta del tranvía de Barcelona: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4665781#map=12/41.3601/2.2017 Saludos El 11/8/2015 1:22 p. m., Sergio García Villalonga yayal...@gmail.com escribió: La única duda que me queda es cómo indicar el orden de las estaciones en una ruta, ahora que lo pienso. -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: SKS 1.1.5 Comment: Hostname: pgp.mit.edu mQINBFVHIooBEAC47yLtG15U3NVj/8s4HEohU1V7UOE1trV9E6U8xMV++bHiffAldF1rlCJ3
[Talk-pe] etiquetas para áreas deforestadas
Eso, qué etiquetas se están usando para señalar áreas deforestadas? dejamos las etiquetas en alguna wiki o pad? ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe
Re: [OSM-ja] 献血ルームについて
muramotoです。 日本では、「HLA検査できる場所」＝「骨髄バンクドナー登録できる場所」だと思います。 ですので、利用者側(マッパー含む)の立場からは、「骨髄バンクドナー登録できる場所」という定義にしたほうが分かりやすいと思います。 一部の保健所等では骨髄バンクドナー登録ができるようなので、そのような場所にタグ付けするのも有用ではないかと思います。 #なお、HLA検査は、輸血(献血)目的の場合と、骨髄バンク目的の場合のものがあります(検査内容は一緒だと思いますが)。 #病気が重い場合など(?)、白血球のタイプ(HLA)が同じ血液の輸血が必要なことがあります。こちらは日本赤十字社がやるHLA検査です。予約は不要です。もう忘れてしまいましたが、署名する程度です。 ##私は献血を100回ほどやりましたが、HLA適合の献血依頼はまだ1回だけです。 #骨髄バンク目的の場合は、おそらくドナー登録のリスク説明などのために、予約が必要なのだと思います。たしか、日本骨髄バンクと日本赤十字が事業協力か何かで、献血ルームが窓口になっているんだったと思います。 2015年8月11日 18:24 SHIBATA Akira h...@eva.gr.jp: 柴田(あ)と申します。 骨髄移植ドナーを二回やったことがあります。 その縁で DLI というのもやったことがあります。 osm と関係ない話題で申し訳ありませんが… On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:39:11 +0900 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp wrote: HLA ですか。多分どこの献血センターでも申し込めばHLAの調査は していると思います。 骨髄移植関連事業をしている骨髄バンクと 血液関連の事業をしている日本赤十字社は別法人なので、 直接的には関係なく、たぶん申し込まないと調査は しないハズです。 わたくしは、スレッドにもでてきた所沢の献血ルームで 骨髄バンクの勧誘員？な女性に「登録しないか？」と 聞かれて、断る理由もなかったし、試験管一本分血液採取が 増えるだけだということだったので、登録を容認しました。 なお、骨髄移植ドナーになっても HLA の型は教えてもらえません。 ML の趣旨とは違うので、もっとお知りになりたい方は直接 メールをくだされば、可能な範囲で回答いたします。 一応当方の二回の体験に関しては当方のメアドと骨髄移植という キーワードで検索すると見つかると思います。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
On 11/08/15 12:10, Warin wrote: I'd prefer to retain the data .. even if it is old. Untill such time as new features are made on the ground. Which around here is new track being relaid ... We had this debate recently on gb list over railway viaducts disappearing because the line was removed ... some abandoned lines are not open to public access, but their existence is still real even if the actual rail has been removed. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-es] Mapeo de rutas de bus
Hola Sergio, El orden correcto de la relación de la ruta es desde el origen hasta el destino, ordenado así - Parada de bus 1 - Plataforma 1 - Parada de bus 2 - Plataforma 2 - Ruta Te puede servir de ejemplo esta ruta del tranvía de Barcelona: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4665781#map=12/41.3601/2.2017 Saludos El 11/8/2015 1:22 p. m., Sergio García Villalonga yayal...@gmail.com escribió: La única duda que me queda es cómo indicar el orden de las estaciones en una ruta, ahora que lo pienso. -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: SKS 1.1.5 Comment: Hostname: pgp.mit.edu mQINBFVHIooBEAC47yLtG15U3NVj/8s4HEohU1V7UOE1trV9E6U8xMV++bHiffAldF1rlCJ3 MzwZCVb4QU88F8w8cQO6LRbVhwgtXam5NXetqYfWhV3VBe9CYZ2S+S+GFrhvSDnpO8/+e8QE fC6XDaFR44Hz1xQ9wcpaovWkFR/eK1nmeq5pUGWcb7nIi//ElMhgVp8Z8g/vQhRPhxhiuWMK 0MaN4R/+kYU6/3m3SA2OBuJwwLddzXZh3baX9/eMBVuEbVyuh/vaKt63loLBEaOBdWNAVRd9 tmbZAEa9SbPb/oUYq1ichWuJwq66b3tRUKbowbk4qQHEr10CTBhGPt8kY+dlLF2e4j5Ah6bi UEGPbnhBG6BP5GVndiGTcAzd1yNI1SPtx1gXlimrWSM8jzqjljbVjxCQm6ogsNpnXj+A7peL nKf3Ep7TL4P8Aa7ubEoET0Yzxv0kA5n4fPX6XEnF6GufNetVmfxxjr930EnBU4oJAWNrcw8K uQzqysOHWIW7ztxL4VB4jmmOBB4XeUEqgwAOMwECY5CpQRCk+igdXTx6qVYDzasTaF6TG512 +lwIIhNEYBVv3cGwWg/PjSRVN7dRXnvCfRMUNxDsZQH1anmCSJRyGFjilEjMhMUsCQZtFNG6 1NKFvEFVSAI5EICqAfN27Bidy+BzfhrXjUd8AxHky6S3Mj+NrwARAQABtC1TZXJnaW8gR2Fy Y2lhIFZpbGxhbG9uZ2EgPHlheWFsb3NlQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAjgEEwECACIFAlVHIooCGwMG CwkIBwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEBEyOVOGK9uqETwP/Ay9S49YFNTIn8t2XZ0f 3Mhl1RqD5cSc5Vn2eOSMiR5Hc4iWv2ogz8DN4j5wF913nA4f8pDgLpaQXbG0HlW6Ajo57z/T 1Ct89ItKA3NJSGB+vlU+mlrQQ9Ks0zqIPstPZZCZClU0Blvm9U8b9FftnRl+kbSQ8eNFMtpW 7zk+0a2VSM3ftDA5Om0b3HuWQorKP8JOpw6RAW8K2dFhSShKAmZdFTHkJ9bSNCl7tXzRr1+k 1uVbGVMUt+lcSoQuhHv5frNPYw+cXHEOP5Up3yINf9Hrvr3CTES/k7T0utmrJsI6iucOr1gf hyG189tjcLEYtvlcIxZgBnPop90BdusCScDcUb+syL+Ya2CaK/6QNlmK18ALUPhwyKcNb1th UuxnL+X0ffFvDnVsXYq0BY0OnVv7eHoJphyHy2uKf2OSqGP6AOuLTzPUIYQtyzbttLw1Zxgf 34NCyxwycYmFf83wCuLq6SI3rxkVnxNm3QzsV/CBiIkWV2pHC2Die168PYTIOrApVHvyZff4 paFiYhT2TkRko9645U/6kqzKTHOB7vyM4wEXwYYRE5GEw1SyVfTvT9M4L4v/PtefZ7TuM8Pu yw1pRKNB1+CYPIBlh3VYVvM5rbuZ5/4tPdQbZWWM4uOrikQslsDymX38+dYRUQwbzLIEcBt1 zaNb9snBTbGMZAlluQINBFVHIooBEADyICmTx2Qrznhc21rPdyXI9oE7XEyqY3Q1/DdPQky7 O62QbbP6vXyEZySlFqtRs59oqH58Ml1MBE0YhV+kJdBAEqkPxN0wLpJe945V5zYyNzPHDRsc flHyid6DV7Faku5eZQCklxeKrSa6R/6+dP/PPersxFfTy4cO8jaVV4gOy6lQYJoFP1a9geAM WwBRyZXRF4l3XtliuVcdBf71JhIF0BEYUFHA1Bm0ooZZDx3REc1/I4lW/lgbW9BN1NmPo0Zy 3sj/ikZPXA7wpAXnulhZHYQL5yVyODZEJD7j7lwbuscO+l+i6wDKolAiLj2tCrRZhfuAbibH q84StLw32zG7+7eviXaQzV6xAByqBhZY7I3u5XLU0mK6gH81Yf+wPxpliWFtjfy8LPtqcPT/ kz0ipRA0Ou4yF533BykfEEX1s08LUYc3Glgx0uGtVgrK8r6vaeL2K4IvndVWD9jtI9ArPkur hjxzkAkz7dhhLqqGezUrL7UPxgv+Wcv6fjchrktqutuSQe23has5KlsknY3FevDQ8o0/0Yhm tATwbOqO8O4vP/4vJ3OAHWdDDJNvk625VZ78pfosplZx27kSQbxMbrVFdCFPl49bGTaFMtJO BuQdR2M54SSI/OwKm3wVTscZ9wdn380I27HitfhPIuy7ieq/HVUBBpoE1tX+fNPIIQARAQAB iQIfBBgBAgAJBQJVRyKKAhsMAAoJEBEyOVOGK9uqGTkP/2G1CU9ogBc7gBRhCwVOyZ/+JqFh OgqzrFtQwDuTzxBTRnQV2IDLv3QHsfI9o6qYTLr1+YstDftEuXoYg/e5QwiSBlmyhLdBllbH pY7L1e4H3tJHqXm+En23BlDmjwfiYoPkhQ8Y14i56zE4A06z0iko40CmmTCkknPKfwsNZ1Oj ZUlsJ8GPV3J5rk0w0uodhiuc9aa70TSKxOpAMuQM/EV57d9aFhe+K6aY+4JnZrrH4WnJBoMr F5/65vjP+TdsaXtFUszu1ZOtYH3abPB/oKqXK4d21dAKXYYDLaisPh5WeF3uwO0QRb2Rd6/D 1Er1QcBSQ0IT6yhwNbW2N409HLdOWOVHDzLRKt+jaLLheXfMJMD8Sx+3x3i9NGDqLlE5KCFO a4tE2mToqwWpnb3Lfx3GhCJtnj/9mujVVEWmtGJw4VAAWAKxr0EUoZceblR44pHiVifaraJC FzlfuleYBYpVHqp5D9zLh9lVDafhwDTPjmcTWulVg0wVz38y0XFTZLsXa4Yo8b35z3u+nAqm hvDv3pEampkuSHdB9GI7rGCc28adWNzmGt6N0GiIphCr2UUxsWZe3n+RxOLJJ/KIWYfJ9Rlx NpWcgg5v+PJWW/8GGg1Q/kjsHT/BG3Pp4Mgk1qLvyudoP/nKKU97JOTu3cvAMzer22ACrtqn VGVHqIBa =R9my -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- 2015-08-10 20:16 GMT+02:00 Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso sanc...@gmail.com: Si no se me escapa nada si todo correcto. El lun., 10 ago. 2015 a las 18:50, Sergio García Villalonga ( yayal...@gmail.com) escribió: Buenas, A raíz de un proyecto personal me he dado cuenta de que la red de autobuses de Palma de Mallorca carece de mucha información, por lo que me he propuesto mejorarla. Teniendo en cuenta las directrices de la Wiki de OSM, con las paradas no he tenido ningún problema, aunque con la representación de la línea en sí sigo teniendo dudas y me gustaría aclararlas antes de empezar a trabajar. Teniendo en cuenta - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Bus_routes_.28also_trolley_bus.29 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route_master - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Buses#Services - http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=22367#p22367 entiendo que: - Debo crear una ruta (con sus correspondientes atributos) por cada dirección de la linea en forma de type=route+route=bus - Debo agrupar las rutas de dicha línea en otra relación (con sus correspondientes atributos) con la forma type=route_master+route_master=bus. Por lo que, por ejemplo, en la línea 3 (Es Pont d'Inca - Illetes, http://bit.ly/1WciL05),
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
Pas de notre license, mais de la license ODbL peut-tre. Frdric, mme avec une double license, tu ne peux quaugmenter les droits ou je me trompe ? Par contre rien nempche de dire que cest comme la license ODbL mais pas dutilisation commerciale sauf gratuite. Et pour viter davoir crire contributeurs OSM et OF autant demander OF comme propos par Vincent, ainsi les contributeurs OF seront des contributeurs OSM. Je leur demande. Jean-Yvon Gesendet:Dienstag, 11. August 2015 um 13:29 Uhr Von:Philippe Verdy - verd...@wanadoo.fr osm.sanspourriel.935cdd9262.verdy_p#wanadoo...@ob.0sg.net An:Discussions sur OSM en franais talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Betreff:Re: [OSM-talk-fr] (osm: message 1 of 20) licence et rapprochement de donnes (PSS, OpenFlights) Ajouter des restrictions anticommerciales est une violation se lODbL. Le logiciel ne peut sen prvaloir. Puisquil met des restrictions contre certaines utilisations la source nest pas libre. Les seules restrictions acceptables sont le dni de responsabilit, labsence de garantie et de support par le fournisseur. Cest alors au seul risques de lutilisateur final qui doit juger lui mme de la qualit, ou de la finalit des donnes, et les corriger lui mme ou avec laide de tout autre utilisateur ou mme avec un fournisseur de service tiers avec lequel il devra lui-mme fixer un contrat, sans que cela entrave les donnes modifies qui doivent rester libres, ou au minimum sparables facilement des autres donnes corriges ou compltes si elles ne sont pas libres. Je pense que ces restrictions NC sont un ABUS DE NOTRE LICENCE. Le10 aot 2015 23:52, Vincent de Chteau-Thierry v...@laposte.net a crit: Bonsoir, Le 10/08/2015 23:40, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a crit : Cest moi qui est mis en vidence ce qui mtonne : ODbL/DbCL mais pas dutilisation commerciale sans payer si lutilisation commerciale nest pas gratuite. a pourrait faire plaisir PSS, mais a me semble contradictoire. Quen pensez-vous ? Le plus direct dans ce cas serait de les contacter en ciblant explicitement lintgration dans OSM. Une rponse (idalement une autorisation) non ambige, crite, dpose dans le wiki, viterait de tergiverser. vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: No, surely not, if there are actual rails on the ground then I'd say they should be mapped. An abandoned railway line having some rails in some places is not, however, sufficient reason to map the whole abandoned railway line even where tracks are removed. An abandoned line with some rails is almost certainly a topographical feature, called old railway grade in the USGS topo maps. I can see your point where the only trace is lot shapes. But I see a lot of things where there is clearly a cut/fill topography and the railbed itself is a feature on the ground. Deleting something with a comment by someone who has actually been there and looked is one thing. I think Russ is objecting to remote deletionists who aren't actually observing if there is a ground feature, in a particular case when Russ knows full well there IS a ground feature. pgp46VKtacT7b.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
Ajouter des restrictions anticommerciales est une violation se l'ODbL. Le logiciel ne peut s'en prévaloir. Puisqu'il met des restrictions contre certaines utilisations la source n'est pas libre. Les seules restrictions acceptables sont le déni de responsabilité, l'absence de garantie et de support par le fournisseur. C'est alors au seul risques de l'utilisateur final qui doit juger lui même de la qualité, ou de la finalité des données, et les corriger lui même ou avec l'aide de tout autre utilisateur ou même avec un fournisseur de service tiers avec lequel il devra lui-même fixer un contrat, sans que cela entrave les données modifiées qui doivent rester libres, ou au minimum séparables facilement des autres données corrigées ou complétées si elles ne sont pas libres. Je pense que ces restrictions NC sont un ABUS DE NOTRE LICENCE. Le 10 août 2015 23:52, Vincent de Château-Thierry v...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonsoir, Le 10/08/2015 23:40, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : C'est moi qui est mis en évidence ce qui m'étonne : ODbL/DbCL mais pas d'utilisation commerciale sans payer si l'utilisation commerciale n'est pas gratuite. Ça pourrait faire plaisir à PSS, mais ça me semble contradictoire. Qu'en pensez-vous ? Le plus direct dans ce cas serait de les contacter en ciblant explicitement l'intégration dans OSM. Une réponse (idéalement une autorisation) non ambigüe, écrite, déposée dans le wiki, éviterait de tergiverser. vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
2015-08-11 12:15 GMT+02:00 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: An abandoned line with some rails is almost certainly a topographical feature, called old railway grade in the USGS topo maps. I can see your point where the only trace is lot shapes. +1, and even by the wiki these would not (if at all) mapped as railway=abandoned but as dismantled or sth like that (and this tag is maybe not to be used because dismantled (absent) features should not be mapped). But I see a lot of things where there is clearly a cut/fill topography and the railbed itself is a feature on the ground. +1, looking only for tracks is too few. When the railbed is there it could be mapped with a railway tag IMHO. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads
On 11/08/2015 8:07 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 08/11/2015 07:09 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Now, you might think Goddamnit, does Russell have to start again? Yes, I have to start again. I was in north-western Pennsylvania last weekend looking for the Corry Junction Rail Trail. Problem: it hasn't been entered into OSM yet. But that's not a problem, right? Because OF COURSE the railway is there, marked as abandoned, right? Errr... you are looking for a trail that follows an abandoned railway line, and you complain that the abandoned railway line is missing from OSM? If you were complaining that the trail isn't there then I'd understand, and you'd have my full support for adding it. But complaining instead that the abandoned railway isn't there...? Say there is a railway line ... OSM has it mapped Then say the railway line becomes abandoned ... I think OSM should retain the data and simply tag it as abandoned Then say the abandoned railway line become a rail trail Now OSM has the data of where the old railway line was .. and a simple additional tag results in the addition! I'd prefer to retain the data .. even if it is old. Untill such time as new features are made on the ground. Why? Because the new features may chose to use some (if not all) properties of the old features. And that would make the old data usefull for entering the new data. So, for me, I'd try to retain the data at least untill it is overwritten by new data. The old data could be retagged abandoned:store=baker for example. Won't be rendered but there for future use if wanted. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Gerichtsbezirke mappen?
Hallo Martin, Am 2015-08-11 um 13:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: ich sehe das als Sammelrelation. Man könnte dieselbe Info auch in (zu erfindenden) tags abbilden. Da hast du Recht. Als ich auf Senden geklickt habe, habe ich nur die Gerichtsbezirke im Kopf gehabt, nicht die Sammelfunktion. Wenn wir uns streng an on the ground halten, dürften wir nicht mal network=* an die Amtsgerichte taggen, wenn dort nicht am Schild neben dem Eingang Landgerichtsbezirk Dresden steht. Viele Grüße Michael -- Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt GPG-verschlüsselt. (Mailinglisten ausgenommen) I prefer GPG encryption of emails. (does not apply on mailing lists) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-ja] opening_hoursの書式
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 08:20:42PM +0900, tomoya muramoto wrote: muramotoです。 献血ルームタグから派生の質問です。 多くの献血ルームでは、成分献血と全血の受付時間が異なっていると思います。 そのため、opening_hoursの指定が少し複雑になるのですが、書式の中のテキスト部分に日本語を使って良いのか分かりません。 下記に案を3つ挙げますが、どれが適切と思われますでしょうか。個人的には、案2が良いのではないかと思っています。(案1, 3だとローカルユーザー(日本人)に不便なため) opening_hours は、その場所が開店している時間だと思います。 開店している時間と受付している時間がずれるとしても、受付時間に 合わせるのは変だと思います。 美術館とかで、開店時間が指定されているけれど、最終入場時刻も 指定されていて、閉店時間の30分前くらいになっているのと同じ ようなものではないかと思います。 案1:英語のみ opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open Plasma, Platelets || 10:00-18:30 open Whole 案2:日英併記 opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open 成分献血(Plasma, Platelets) || 10:00-18:30 open 全血(Whole) 案3:日英分離 opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open Plasma, Platelets || 10:00-18:30 open Whole opening_hours:ja=10:00-17:00 open 成分献血 || 10:00-18:30 open 全血 ribbon ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[OSM-ja] opening_hoursの書式
muramotoです。 献血ルームタグから派生の質問です。 多くの献血ルームでは、成分献血と全血の受付時間が異なっていると思います。 そのため、opening_hoursの指定が少し複雑になるのですが、書式の中のテキスト部分に日本語を使って良いのか分かりません。 下記に案を3つ挙げますが、どれが適切と思われますでしょうか。個人的には、案2が良いのではないかと思っています。(案1, 3だとローカルユーザー(日本人)に不便なため) 案1:英語のみ opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open Plasma, Platelets || 10:00-18:30 open Whole 案2:日英併記 opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open 成分献血(Plasma, Platelets) || 10:00-18:30 open 全血(Whole) 案3:日英分離 opening_hours=10:00-17:00 open Plasma, Platelets || 10:00-18:30 open Whole opening_hours:ja=10:00-17:00 open 成分献血 || 10:00-18:30 open 全血 ご意見よろしくお願いいたします。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [Talk-es] Mapeo de rutas de bus
La única duda que me queda es cómo indicar el orden de las estaciones en una ruta, ahora que lo pienso. -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: SKS 1.1.5 Comment: Hostname: pgp.mit.edu mQINBFVHIooBEAC47yLtG15U3NVj/8s4HEohU1V7UOE1trV9E6U8xMV++bHiffAldF1rlCJ3 MzwZCVb4QU88F8w8cQO6LRbVhwgtXam5NXetqYfWhV3VBe9CYZ2S+S+GFrhvSDnpO8/+e8QE fC6XDaFR44Hz1xQ9wcpaovWkFR/eK1nmeq5pUGWcb7nIi//ElMhgVp8Z8g/vQhRPhxhiuWMK 0MaN4R/+kYU6/3m3SA2OBuJwwLddzXZh3baX9/eMBVuEbVyuh/vaKt63loLBEaOBdWNAVRd9 tmbZAEa9SbPb/oUYq1ichWuJwq66b3tRUKbowbk4qQHEr10CTBhGPt8kY+dlLF2e4j5Ah6bi UEGPbnhBG6BP5GVndiGTcAzd1yNI1SPtx1gXlimrWSM8jzqjljbVjxCQm6ogsNpnXj+A7peL nKf3Ep7TL4P8Aa7ubEoET0Yzxv0kA5n4fPX6XEnF6GufNetVmfxxjr930EnBU4oJAWNrcw8K uQzqysOHWIW7ztxL4VB4jmmOBB4XeUEqgwAOMwECY5CpQRCk+igdXTx6qVYDzasTaF6TG512 +lwIIhNEYBVv3cGwWg/PjSRVN7dRXnvCfRMUNxDsZQH1anmCSJRyGFjilEjMhMUsCQZtFNG6 1NKFvEFVSAI5EICqAfN27Bidy+BzfhrXjUd8AxHky6S3Mj+NrwARAQABtC1TZXJnaW8gR2Fy Y2lhIFZpbGxhbG9uZ2EgPHlheWFsb3NlQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAjgEEwECACIFAlVHIooCGwMG CwkIBwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEBEyOVOGK9uqETwP/Ay9S49YFNTIn8t2XZ0f 3Mhl1RqD5cSc5Vn2eOSMiR5Hc4iWv2ogz8DN4j5wF913nA4f8pDgLpaQXbG0HlW6Ajo57z/T 1Ct89ItKA3NJSGB+vlU+mlrQQ9Ks0zqIPstPZZCZClU0Blvm9U8b9FftnRl+kbSQ8eNFMtpW 7zk+0a2VSM3ftDA5Om0b3HuWQorKP8JOpw6RAW8K2dFhSShKAmZdFTHkJ9bSNCl7tXzRr1+k 1uVbGVMUt+lcSoQuhHv5frNPYw+cXHEOP5Up3yINf9Hrvr3CTES/k7T0utmrJsI6iucOr1gf hyG189tjcLEYtvlcIxZgBnPop90BdusCScDcUb+syL+Ya2CaK/6QNlmK18ALUPhwyKcNb1th UuxnL+X0ffFvDnVsXYq0BY0OnVv7eHoJphyHy2uKf2OSqGP6AOuLTzPUIYQtyzbttLw1Zxgf 34NCyxwycYmFf83wCuLq6SI3rxkVnxNm3QzsV/CBiIkWV2pHC2Die168PYTIOrApVHvyZff4 paFiYhT2TkRko9645U/6kqzKTHOB7vyM4wEXwYYRE5GEw1SyVfTvT9M4L4v/PtefZ7TuM8Pu yw1pRKNB1+CYPIBlh3VYVvM5rbuZ5/4tPdQbZWWM4uOrikQslsDymX38+dYRUQwbzLIEcBt1 zaNb9snBTbGMZAlluQINBFVHIooBEADyICmTx2Qrznhc21rPdyXI9oE7XEyqY3Q1/DdPQky7 O62QbbP6vXyEZySlFqtRs59oqH58Ml1MBE0YhV+kJdBAEqkPxN0wLpJe945V5zYyNzPHDRsc flHyid6DV7Faku5eZQCklxeKrSa6R/6+dP/PPersxFfTy4cO8jaVV4gOy6lQYJoFP1a9geAM WwBRyZXRF4l3XtliuVcdBf71JhIF0BEYUFHA1Bm0ooZZDx3REc1/I4lW/lgbW9BN1NmPo0Zy 3sj/ikZPXA7wpAXnulhZHYQL5yVyODZEJD7j7lwbuscO+l+i6wDKolAiLj2tCrRZhfuAbibH q84StLw32zG7+7eviXaQzV6xAByqBhZY7I3u5XLU0mK6gH81Yf+wPxpliWFtjfy8LPtqcPT/ kz0ipRA0Ou4yF533BykfEEX1s08LUYc3Glgx0uGtVgrK8r6vaeL2K4IvndVWD9jtI9ArPkur hjxzkAkz7dhhLqqGezUrL7UPxgv+Wcv6fjchrktqutuSQe23has5KlsknY3FevDQ8o0/0Yhm tATwbOqO8O4vP/4vJ3OAHWdDDJNvk625VZ78pfosplZx27kSQbxMbrVFdCFPl49bGTaFMtJO BuQdR2M54SSI/OwKm3wVTscZ9wdn380I27HitfhPIuy7ieq/HVUBBpoE1tX+fNPIIQARAQAB iQIfBBgBAgAJBQJVRyKKAhsMAAoJEBEyOVOGK9uqGTkP/2G1CU9ogBc7gBRhCwVOyZ/+JqFh OgqzrFtQwDuTzxBTRnQV2IDLv3QHsfI9o6qYTLr1+YstDftEuXoYg/e5QwiSBlmyhLdBllbH pY7L1e4H3tJHqXm+En23BlDmjwfiYoPkhQ8Y14i56zE4A06z0iko40CmmTCkknPKfwsNZ1Oj ZUlsJ8GPV3J5rk0w0uodhiuc9aa70TSKxOpAMuQM/EV57d9aFhe+K6aY+4JnZrrH4WnJBoMr F5/65vjP+TdsaXtFUszu1ZOtYH3abPB/oKqXK4d21dAKXYYDLaisPh5WeF3uwO0QRb2Rd6/D 1Er1QcBSQ0IT6yhwNbW2N409HLdOWOVHDzLRKt+jaLLheXfMJMD8Sx+3x3i9NGDqLlE5KCFO a4tE2mToqwWpnb3Lfx3GhCJtnj/9mujVVEWmtGJw4VAAWAKxr0EUoZceblR44pHiVifaraJC FzlfuleYBYpVHqp5D9zLh9lVDafhwDTPjmcTWulVg0wVz38y0XFTZLsXa4Yo8b35z3u+nAqm hvDv3pEampkuSHdB9GI7rGCc28adWNzmGt6N0GiIphCr2UUxsWZe3n+RxOLJJ/KIWYfJ9Rlx NpWcgg5v+PJWW/8GGg1Q/kjsHT/BG3Pp4Mgk1qLvyudoP/nKKU97JOTu3cvAMzer22ACrtqn VGVHqIBa =R9my -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- 2015-08-10 20:16 GMT+02:00 Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso sanc...@gmail.com: Si no se me escapa nada si todo correcto. El lun., 10 ago. 2015 a las 18:50, Sergio García Villalonga ( yayal...@gmail.com) escribió: Buenas, A raíz de un proyecto personal me he dado cuenta de que la red de autobuses de Palma de Mallorca carece de mucha información, por lo que me he propuesto mejorarla. Teniendo en cuenta las directrices de la Wiki de OSM, con las paradas no he tenido ningún problema, aunque con la representación de la línea en sí sigo teniendo dudas y me gustaría aclararlas antes de empezar a trabajar. Teniendo en cuenta - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Bus_routes_.28also_trolley_bus.29 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route_master - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Buses#Services - http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=22367#p22367 entiendo que: - Debo crear una ruta (con sus correspondientes atributos) por cada dirección de la linea en forma de type=route+route=bus - Debo agrupar las rutas de dicha línea en otra relación (con sus correspondientes atributos) con la forma type=route_master+route_master=bus. Por lo que, por ejemplo, en la línea 3 (Es Pont d'Inca - Illetes, http://bit.ly/1WciL05), debería crear dos rutas: - Es Pont d'Inca → Illetes con los siguientes atributos: - type=route - route=bus - operator=Empresa Municipal de Transports de Palma - name=Es Pont d'Inca - Illetes - network=Bus de Palma - wheelchair=yes - colour=#F45BA4 - Illetes → Es Pont d'Inca con los siguientes atributos: - type=route - route=bus - operator=Empresa Municipal de
Re: [Talk-de] Gerichtsbezirke mappen?
Am 11.08.2015 um 00:41 schrieb Michael Reichert: Ich würde gerne Mal andere Meinungen zu folgender Relation lesen. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5421471/history Ist OSM der richtige Ort dafür? Wäre das bei Wikidata nicht besser aufgehoben? Die Grenzen der Gerichtsbezirke fallen eigentlich immer mit irgendwelchen Gemeindegrenzen zusammen. Die einzigen Ausnahmen sind Amtsgerichtsbezirke in großen Städten mit mehreren Amtsgerichten. Da weiß ich nicht, ob die Gerichtsbezirksgrenzen sich immer an Stadtbezirksgrenzen orientieren. Jedenfalls im Normalfall halte ich es daher nicht für sinnvoll, Gerichtsbezirke als solche zu mappen. Gruß, Mark ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-es] Mapeo de rutas de bus
Nada, mejor quedarse sin dudas :-) Sobre la primera pregunta recomendaría añadir siempre una plataforma aunque esta no sea tan visible en la parada, suele ser un área que el resto de coches no pueden aparcar así que sí está asignada para que el bus aparque para la recogida de pasajeros. Sobre la segunda pregunta me temo que sólo puedo responder que cada plataforma sí ha de tener su nombre, pero no sé qué responderte por el nodo stop_position, se puede añadir 2 nodos ligeramente separados o un solo modo con ambos nombres añadidos. Pero prefiero que otra persona responda :-) Saludos El 11/8/2015 2:29 p. m., Sergio García Villalonga yayal...@gmail.com escribió: Muchas gracias, es un ejemplo muy completo. Las dos últimas dudas (perdonad, pero dependiendo de las respuestas, surgen unas u otras). Teniendo en cuenta http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport lo que debería hacer en cada parada es un nodo public_transport=stop_position en la carretera (por así decirlo) y un public_transport=platform a su lado para indicar dónde se apea la gente. 1 - ¿Esto último es aplicable tambien a las paradas que no tienen propiamente una zona, como las que son solo un palo? 2 - Se da el caso de que en algunas, en una vía de doble sentido hay paradas una justo enfrente de la otra pero con nombres diferentes (por ejemplo, http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/669639885 y http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3684591877). Según la documentación ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport#Examples), tendría que tener un nodo stop_position que compartirían dos platforms. ¿En ese caso, los nombres de parada irian en el nodo stop_position o en el platform? Muchas gracias, Sergio. -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: SKS 1.1.5 Comment: Hostname: pgp.mit.edu mQINBFVHIooBEAC47yLtG15U3NVj/8s4HEohU1V7UOE1trV9E6U8xMV++bHiffAldF1rlCJ3 MzwZCVb4QU88F8w8cQO6LRbVhwgtXam5NXetqYfWhV3VBe9CYZ2S+S+GFrhvSDnpO8/+e8QE fC6XDaFR44Hz1xQ9wcpaovWkFR/eK1nmeq5pUGWcb7nIi//ElMhgVp8Z8g/vQhRPhxhiuWMK 0MaN4R/+kYU6/3m3SA2OBuJwwLddzXZh3baX9/eMBVuEbVyuh/vaKt63loLBEaOBdWNAVRd9 tmbZAEa9SbPb/oUYq1ichWuJwq66b3tRUKbowbk4qQHEr10CTBhGPt8kY+dlLF2e4j5Ah6bi UEGPbnhBG6BP5GVndiGTcAzd1yNI1SPtx1gXlimrWSM8jzqjljbVjxCQm6ogsNpnXj+A7peL nKf3Ep7TL4P8Aa7ubEoET0Yzxv0kA5n4fPX6XEnF6GufNetVmfxxjr930EnBU4oJAWNrcw8K uQzqysOHWIW7ztxL4VB4jmmOBB4XeUEqgwAOMwECY5CpQRCk+igdXTx6qVYDzasTaF6TG512 +lwIIhNEYBVv3cGwWg/PjSRVN7dRXnvCfRMUNxDsZQH1anmCSJRyGFjilEjMhMUsCQZtFNG6 1NKFvEFVSAI5EICqAfN27Bidy+BzfhrXjUd8AxHky6S3Mj+NrwARAQABtC1TZXJnaW8gR2Fy Y2lhIFZpbGxhbG9uZ2EgPHlheWFsb3NlQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAjgEEwECACIFAlVHIooCGwMG CwkIBwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEBEyOVOGK9uqETwP/Ay9S49YFNTIn8t2XZ0f 3Mhl1RqD5cSc5Vn2eOSMiR5Hc4iWv2ogz8DN4j5wF913nA4f8pDgLpaQXbG0HlW6Ajo57z/T 1Ct89ItKA3NJSGB+vlU+mlrQQ9Ks0zqIPstPZZCZClU0Blvm9U8b9FftnRl+kbSQ8eNFMtpW 7zk+0a2VSM3ftDA5Om0b3HuWQorKP8JOpw6RAW8K2dFhSShKAmZdFTHkJ9bSNCl7tXzRr1+k 1uVbGVMUt+lcSoQuhHv5frNPYw+cXHEOP5Up3yINf9Hrvr3CTES/k7T0utmrJsI6iucOr1gf hyG189tjcLEYtvlcIxZgBnPop90BdusCScDcUb+syL+Ya2CaK/6QNlmK18ALUPhwyKcNb1th UuxnL+X0ffFvDnVsXYq0BY0OnVv7eHoJphyHy2uKf2OSqGP6AOuLTzPUIYQtyzbttLw1Zxgf 34NCyxwycYmFf83wCuLq6SI3rxkVnxNm3QzsV/CBiIkWV2pHC2Die168PYTIOrApVHvyZff4 paFiYhT2TkRko9645U/6kqzKTHOB7vyM4wEXwYYRE5GEw1SyVfTvT9M4L4v/PtefZ7TuM8Pu yw1pRKNB1+CYPIBlh3VYVvM5rbuZ5/4tPdQbZWWM4uOrikQslsDymX38+dYRUQwbzLIEcBt1 zaNb9snBTbGMZAlluQINBFVHIooBEADyICmTx2Qrznhc21rPdyXI9oE7XEyqY3Q1/DdPQky7 O62QbbP6vXyEZySlFqtRs59oqH58Ml1MBE0YhV+kJdBAEqkPxN0wLpJe945V5zYyNzPHDRsc flHyid6DV7Faku5eZQCklxeKrSa6R/6+dP/PPersxFfTy4cO8jaVV4gOy6lQYJoFP1a9geAM WwBRyZXRF4l3XtliuVcdBf71JhIF0BEYUFHA1Bm0ooZZDx3REc1/I4lW/lgbW9BN1NmPo0Zy 3sj/ikZPXA7wpAXnulhZHYQL5yVyODZEJD7j7lwbuscO+l+i6wDKolAiLj2tCrRZhfuAbibH q84StLw32zG7+7eviXaQzV6xAByqBhZY7I3u5XLU0mK6gH81Yf+wPxpliWFtjfy8LPtqcPT/ kz0ipRA0Ou4yF533BykfEEX1s08LUYc3Glgx0uGtVgrK8r6vaeL2K4IvndVWD9jtI9ArPkur hjxzkAkz7dhhLqqGezUrL7UPxgv+Wcv6fjchrktqutuSQe23has5KlsknY3FevDQ8o0/0Yhm tATwbOqO8O4vP/4vJ3OAHWdDDJNvk625VZ78pfosplZx27kSQbxMbrVFdCFPl49bGTaFMtJO BuQdR2M54SSI/OwKm3wVTscZ9wdn380I27HitfhPIuy7ieq/HVUBBpoE1tX+fNPIIQARAQAB iQIfBBgBAgAJBQJVRyKKAhsMAAoJEBEyOVOGK9uqGTkP/2G1CU9ogBc7gBRhCwVOyZ/+JqFh OgqzrFtQwDuTzxBTRnQV2IDLv3QHsfI9o6qYTLr1+YstDftEuXoYg/e5QwiSBlmyhLdBllbH pY7L1e4H3tJHqXm+En23BlDmjwfiYoPkhQ8Y14i56zE4A06z0iko40CmmTCkknPKfwsNZ1Oj ZUlsJ8GPV3J5rk0w0uodhiuc9aa70TSKxOpAMuQM/EV57d9aFhe+K6aY+4JnZrrH4WnJBoMr F5/65vjP+TdsaXtFUszu1ZOtYH3abPB/oKqXK4d21dAKXYYDLaisPh5WeF3uwO0QRb2Rd6/D 1Er1QcBSQ0IT6yhwNbW2N409HLdOWOVHDzLRKt+jaLLheXfMJMD8Sx+3x3i9NGDqLlE5KCFO a4tE2mToqwWpnb3Lfx3GhCJtnj/9mujVVEWmtGJw4VAAWAKxr0EUoZceblR44pHiVifaraJC FzlfuleYBYpVHqp5D9zLh9lVDafhwDTPjmcTWulVg0wVz38y0XFTZLsXa4Yo8b35z3u+nAqm hvDv3pEampkuSHdB9GI7rGCc28adWNzmGt6N0GiIphCr2UUxsWZe3n+RxOLJJ/KIWYfJ9Rlx NpWcgg5v+PJWW/8GGg1Q/kjsHT/BG3Pp4Mgk1qLvyudoP/nKKU97JOTu3cvAMzer22ACrtqn VGVHqIBa =R9my -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- 2015-08-11 13:27 GMT+02:00 Carlos Cabezas r0u...@r0uzic.net:
Re: [Talk-de] Gerichtsbezirke mappen?
Am 11. August 2015 um 00:41 schrieb Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net: Ich würde gerne Mal andere Meinungen zu folgender Relation lesen. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5421471/history Ist OSM der richtige Ort dafür? Wäre das bei Wikidata nicht besser aufgehoben? ich sehe das als Sammelrelation. Man könnte dieselbe Info auch in (zu erfindenden) tags abbilden. Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-be] [okfn-be] Francken wil nationale stratenlijst als open data
Dear, Just a little note to let you know that together with Christian Quest, the coordinator of the BAN (Base Adresse Nationale) from the Etalab mission and one of the founder of OpenStreetMap France, I met yesterday Michiel Mentens, advisor for the Simplification administrative - Administratieve vereenvoudigheid of Minister Theo Francken. We have discussed the French experience around such a unique source of addresses at national level, the benefit it brings and the difficulties to make it happen. We have also addressed many linked topics and subject. We had a very good and productive contact, opening many opportunities for further collaborations. Best regards, Nicolas Le 22/07/15 01:04, nico...@pettiaux.be a écrit : As posted on the osm-be list I wanted to propose soon a belgian project like the French Bano under the leadership of osm-be. I firmly think the we (the enlarged osm-be community) are the best entitled to drive such a project. How can we get in touch with mr Francken or his teams to share this idea with them ? Thanks Nicolas Ps regards from Boston À lun. juil. 20 10:12:09 2015 GMT-0400, alex a écrit : http://datanews.knack.be/ict/nieuws/francken-wil-nationale-stratenlijst-als-open-data/article-normal-587845.html ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-es] Mapeo de rutas de bus
Ok, muchas gracias. Esperaré a tener más datos. Si no, ya preguntaré en otra lista. La última de las últimas (y me echáis por cansino :) Una vez tenga todas las routes (rutas) agrupadas en route_master (líneas), ¿debería agruparlas todas en otra route_master que englobe a todas las líneas (y, por tanto, se corresponda con el network) y a su vez, otra route_ master que represente todas las networks (lo que correspondería a company)? Para que quede claro, un ejemplo con Barcelona: TMB (route_master) | |-- Red de bus (route_master) || ||-- Linea 1 (route_master) || | || |-- Ruta ida (route) || | | || | |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:bus_stop) || | |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:platform) || | |... || | |-- Estación n (public_transport:bus_stop) || | |-- Estación n (public_transport:platform) || |-- Ruta vuelta (route) || | || |-- Estación n (public_transport:bus_stop) || |-- Estación n (public_transport:platform) || |... || |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:bus_stop) || |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:platform) ||-- Linea 2 (route_master) ||... ||-- Linea n (route_master) | |-- Red de metro (route_master) |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:platform) |-- Linea 1 (route_master) ... ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [talk-ph] On importing administrative boundaries
What about the news (of the nearly completed Cadastral Survey which was also mentioned in SONA 2015)? http://www.philstar.com/nation/2015/06/12/1464852/cadastral-survey-phl-land-area-nears-completion http://www.philstar.com/nation/2015/06/12/1464852/cadastral-survey-phl-land-area-nears-completion--- which I'm sure is using PRS92 (as required by law) Plus the open data policy of government? (will this give us inherent right to import?) What proactive action can we do as a group, to gain access extract from this PRS92 boundary data, then convert to WGS84 and/or carefully translate boundary-lines manually thru visual inspection/interpretation/validation; like doing it per boundary-segment (if necessary) to redraw/correct/remove/improve shapes lines of those inaccurate GADM boundaries (eg. in a mapping party project), so that we do away with issues of importing erroneous data again? On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:24 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Part-rant, part personal manifesto on importing admin boundaries in the Philippines from a mapper who imported provincial boundaries many years ago. ;) http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/diary/35568 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[Talk-br] Comunidade OSM na Bahia ?
Oi, Apos dois anos fora do pais, estou passando um mes em Salvador. Tem uma comunidade ali que tem encontros ? Wille, você esta pra ca? Severin ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dividing houses with returns as terrace
I hope I got the problem correct. if you do not have the house numbers yet, use the number of segments in the terracer plugin to split in even parts. When you have the house numbers, fill in the lowest highest number and choose even-odd/all. In this case you preferable select the building, the street, as well as one node of the building on the side where the lowest number has to come before opening the dialog. This only works for buildings that are nice rectangles. regards m On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Nick Burrett n...@sqrt.co.uk wrote: On 8 August 2015 at 16:36, Brian Hollinshead br...@hollinshead.net wrote: I have routinely used the terracer plugin in JOSM to divide a long/single building into a set of terraced houses. Recently I was talking OSM to a librarian from Casimir Road, Harolds Cross, Dublin, I asked would he like to share the house numbers with me if I added the outlines first. He readily agreed. When I got home I found someone has already kindly added most of the buildings carefully showing the return in each case. I cannot get the terracer plugin to like trying to divide such a building into two equal rectangular halves. I have only ever achieved that by drawing a large outline of the terrace, then drawing the lines to split the houses and manually splitting the outline into several houses. Very tedious, so I don't bother these days, choosing to terrace as a block and add the house numbers, which I find to be more important than the shape. Regards, Nick ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
Le 10/08/2015 23:40, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : Bonjour, http://openflights.org/data.html propose des données en ODBL (bien) mais par contre leur utilisation commerciale est payante. Précisément : Licensing and disclaimer The OpenFlights Airport, Airline and Route Databases are made *available under the **Open Database License http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/*. *Any rights in individual contents of the database are licensed under the **Database Contents License http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/dbcl/1.0/**.* In short, these mean that you are welcome to use the data as you wish, if and only if you /both/ acknowledge the source /and/ and license any derived works made available to the public *with a free license as well*. *Licenses for commercial use of data* or derived images *are available on request.* Most simple cases, for example use of an image within a book or other printed publication, are granted for a flat fee of US$100. Please contact us http://openflights.org/about for details. Airport data derived OurAirports http://ourairports.com and DAFIF, as well as route data from Airline Route Mapper http://arm.64hosts.com/, is in the public domain. Airline data derived from Wikipedia may be subject to the GNU Free Documentation License http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html. Whether these databases pass the threshold of originality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threshold_of_originality and are thus copyrightable in the United States is an open question, and Contentshare does not assert the validity or lack thereof of such a claim. C'est moi qui est mis en évidence ce qui m'étonne : ODbL/DbCL mais pas d'utilisation commerciale sans payer si l'utilisation commerciale n'est pas gratuite. Ça pourrait faire plaisir à PSS, mais ça me semble contradictoire. Qu'en pensez-vous ? C'est pas 100% clair leur truc, mais j'ai une autre lecture que toi. 1) la base (comme un tout) est en ODbL, chaque élément séparé de la base est en DbCL Ca me semble ok vis à vis d'OSM. 2) tu peux utiliser les data si ce qui est dérivé est sous une licence libre Là, c'est plus problématique. Une carte dérivée des données OSM peut ne pas être sous licence libre, mais on est ici à un deuxième niveau de dérivation... 3) utilisation commerciale des données ou des images dérivées... là soit ça tente de couvrir les cas qui sorte du cas général de 1) et 2) soit c'est vraiment une clause non commerciale en plus de l'ODbL/DbCL. A confirmer donc pour vérifier la compatibilité avec l'intégration dans OSM qui n'a pas de clause non commerciale. Comme c'est ODbL, il ne me semble pas problématique d'ajouter les tag iata http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:iata et icao http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:icao à partir de cette source. Les données en CSV sont ici : https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jpatokal/openflights/master/data/airports.dat Il faut ajouter la ligne d'entête : OpenFlightID,Name,City,Contry,iata,icao,Lat,Lon,AltitudeFt,Timezone,DSTtype,TimezoneName Exemple : 1,Goroka,Goroka,Papua New Guinea,GKA,AYGA,-6.081689,145.391881,5282,10,U,Pacific/Port_Moresby Si dans OSM on cherche aéroport BES, on tombe sur l'aéroport de Brest-Bretagne, anciennement nommé Brest-Guivapas (ce qui correspond à la base de données OpenFlights). Il serait intéressant de voir les aéroports sans iata/icao. Ici l'aéroport a un ref comme icao. Quelle est la meilleure manière de faire converger les données ? Il y a près de 10 000 entrées, umap n'aime pas si on lui met tout dans une seule table, découper par pays (un pays= un CSV) fastidieux. Jean-Yvon Il y a eu un import de ourairports (domaine publique ?) il y a pas mal de temps. Il serait peut être bon de se resynchroniser là dessus avant de clarifier la compatibilité de licence avec openflights. Poser simplement la question nous autorisez-vous à intégrer vos données dans OSM, sachant que 1) c'est de l'ODbL pure donc 2) les oeuvres dérivées pourront ne pas être libres, 3) les usages commerciaux seront possibles. -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2015-08-07
On 08/10/2015 01:52 AM, Dave Hansen wrote: Map to visualize what each file contains: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-07/kml/kml.html For some reason, the Openstreetmap server is not generating indexes which are auto-generated web pages for directory listings, so this url doesn't work: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-07 But you can still use the map page: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-07/kml/kml.html ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Extraire route d'OSM?
Paradoxalement, ne pas préciser de bbox peut être plus rapide... car on
n'utilise dans ce cas que la hiérarchie des objets. Là on part d'un
unique objet (la relation) et on récupère les enfants ce qui est
relativement rapide.
Le 10/08/2015 23:15, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :
Il a du mal car tu as récupéré toute la relation, sans tenir compte de
la zone zoomée.
Christian n'avait pas mis {{bbox}} pour tout récupérer : typiquement
on n'affiche pas sur un navigateur tant de données, on utilise plutôt
d'autres outils style JOSM.
Si la relation est toujours cyclique, s'il n'y pas de chien de garde
ou autre, il est possible que le rendu boucle jusqu'à planter le serveur.
Jean-Yvon
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Re: [Talk-es] Mapeo de rutas de bus
No he visto en ningún sitio que haya que crear una ruta maestra con todas las líneas, con network ya es suficiente. Saludos El 11/8/2015 4:56 p. m., Sergio García Villalonga yayal...@gmail.com escribió: Ok, muchas gracias. Esperaré a tener más datos. Si no, ya preguntaré en otra lista. La última de las últimas (y me echáis por cansino :) Una vez tenga todas las routes (rutas) agrupadas en route_master (líneas), ¿debería agruparlas todas en otra route_master que englobe a todas las líneas (y, por tanto, se corresponda con el network) y a su vez, otra route_master que represente todas las networks (lo que correspondería a company)? Para que quede claro, un ejemplo con Barcelona: TMB (route_master) | |-- Red de bus (route_master) || ||-- Linea 1 (route_master) || | || |-- Ruta ida (route) || | | || | |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:bus_stop) || | |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:platform) || | |... || | |-- Estación n (public_transport:bus_stop) || | |-- Estación n (public_transport:platform) || |-- Ruta vuelta (route) || | || |-- Estación n (public_transport:bus_stop) || |-- Estación n (public_transport:platform) || |... || |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:bus_stop) || |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:platform) ||-- Linea 2 (route_master) ||... ||-- Linea n (route_master) | |-- Red de metro (route_master) |-- Estación 1 (public_transport:platform) |-- Linea 1 (route_master) ... ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch
Am 10. August 2015 um 10:48 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Ich habe mit omsose auch so meine probleme - ich habe an einigen stellen ein tag namens dtag-vzk=yes/no eingeführt. (...) osmose kennt das Tag nicht sagt also das es gelöscht werden soll. Muss ich kotzen. Welches osmose benutzt Du? in meinem osmose wird zu http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33236933 der Hinweis Falsches Schlagwort dtag-vzk=yes angegeben. Die Fehlermeldung hat den Wert 3050. Dazu steht im Wiki (in holpriger, aber nicht fehlleitender Übersetzung aus dem Französischen) Fix: Überprüfen Sie die Schlüssel-Tag, und korrigieren // Trap Es gibt sicherlich noch Fehlalarme ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Osmose/issues#3050). Von _löschen_ steht da nichts, wohl aber von _überprüfen_ (_überprüfen_ klappt dann mangels Dokumentation des Tags wohl nicht). ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 05:49:57PM +0200, Swen Wacker wrote: Welches osmose benutzt Du? in meinem osmose wird zu http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33236933 der Hinweis Falsches Schlagwort dtag-vzk=yes angegeben. Die Fehlermeldung hat den Wert 3050. Dazu steht im Wiki (in holpriger, aber nicht fehlleitender Übersetzung aus dem Französischen) Fix: Überprüfen Sie die Schlüssel-Tag, und korrigieren // Trap Es gibt sicherlich noch Fehlalarme ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Osmose/issues#3050). Von _löschen_ steht da nichts, wohl aber von _überprüfen_ (_überprüfen_ klappt dann mangels Dokumentation des Tags wohl nicht). Defakto werden sie gelöscht - und leider durchsucht das wiki keine user pages sonst könnte man was dazu finden. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Flohoff#key:_dtag-vzk flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de We need to self-defense - GnuPG/PGP enable your email today! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
J'ai un doute sur ta deuxième condition car pour moi les données dérivées restent sous licence ODbL. S'imagine de do nées séparables, non incluses donc sur la base OSM, stockées sue une base annexe avec un système de rapprochement flou (critère de profit géographique) ou par indication d'un id unique via une URI (URL vers une base OSM ou URN par un couple type d'objet OSM et identifiant unique, peut être complète par un numéro de version, mais pas nécessairement avec indication géographique dans la base annexe, on se situe dans la même configuration permettant d'avoir une base propriétaire à côté de ma base OSM pour faire des cartes privées comme sur uMap ou les couches sont clairement séparées. La il est possible d'avoir des licences distinctes qui ne recouvrent en fait pas la même chose. Dans ce cas il ne s'agit pas de données dérivées et on peut mettre ces données sous une autre licence ou lui appliquer des termes mentionnant que la licence ODbL sera utilisée pour ces données uniquement dans l'usage non commercial. Mais on ne peut pas restreindre les droits des données dérivées (inséparables des données originales publiées sous l'unité licence ODbL ou intégrées sous une licence compatible telle que LO/OL). Le 11 août 2015 17:06, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Le 10/08/2015 23:40, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : Bonjour, http://openflights.org/data.html propose des données en ODBL (bien) mais par contre leur utilisation commerciale est payante. Précisément : Licensing and disclaimer The OpenFlights Airport, Airline and Route Databases are made *available under the **Open Database License http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/*. *Any rights in individual contents of the database are licensed under the **Database Contents License http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/dbcl/1.0/**.* In short, these mean that you are welcome to use the data as you wish, if and only if you *both* acknowledge the source *and* and license any derived works made available to the public *with a free license as well*. *Licenses for commercial use of data* or derived images *are available on request.* Most simple cases, for example use of an image within a book or other printed publication, are granted for a flat fee of US$100. Please contact us http://openflights.org/about for details. Airport data derived OurAirports http://ourairports.com and DAFIF, as well as route data from Airline Route Mapper http://arm.64hosts.com/, is in the public domain. Airline data derived from Wikipedia may be subject to the GNU Free Documentation License http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html. Whether these databases pass the threshold of originality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threshold_of_originality and are thus copyrightable in the United States is an open question, and Contentshare does not assert the validity or lack thereof of such a claim. C'est moi qui est mis en évidence ce qui m'étonne : ODbL/DbCL mais pas d'utilisation commerciale sans payer si l'utilisation commerciale n'est pas gratuite. Ça pourrait faire plaisir à PSS, mais ça me semble contradictoire. Qu'en pensez-vous ? C'est pas 100% clair leur truc, mais j'ai une autre lecture que toi. 1) la base (comme un tout) est en ODbL, chaque élément séparé de la base est en DbCL Ca me semble ok vis à vis d'OSM. 2) tu peux utiliser les data si ce qui est dérivé est sous une licence libre Là, c'est plus problématique. Une carte dérivée des données OSM peut ne pas être sous licence libre, mais on est ici à un deuxième niveau de dérivation... 3) utilisation commerciale des données ou des images dérivées... là soit ça tente de couvrir les cas qui sorte du cas général de 1) et 2) soit c'est vraiment une clause non commerciale en plus de l'ODbL/DbCL. A confirmer donc pour vérifier la compatibilité avec l'intégration dans OSM qui n'a pas de clause non commerciale. Comme c'est ODbL, il ne me semble pas problématique d'ajouter les tag iata http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:iata et icao http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:icao à partir de cette source. Les données en CSV sont ici : https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jpatokal/openflights/master/data/airports.dat Il faut ajouter la ligne d'entête : OpenFlightID,Name,City,Contry,iata,icao,Lat,Lon,AltitudeFt,Timezone,DSTtype,TimezoneName Exemple : 1,Goroka,Goroka,Papua New Guinea,GKA,AYGA,-6.081689,145.391881,5282,10,U,Pacific/Port_Moresby Si dans OSM on cherche aéroport BES, on tombe sur l'aéroport de Brest-Bretagne, anciennement nommé Brest-Guivapas (ce qui correspond à la base de données OpenFlights). Il serait intéressant de voir les aéroports sans iata/icao. Ici l'aéroport a un ref comme icao. Quelle est la meilleure manière de faire converger les données ? Il y a près de 10 000 entrées, umap n'aime pas si on lui met tout dans une seule table, découper par pays (un pays= un CSV) fastidieux. Jean-Yvon Il y a eu
Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch
Am 11. August 2015 um 18:11 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Defakto werden sie gelöscht - und leider durchsucht das wiki keine user pages sonst könnte man was dazu finden. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Flohoff#key:_dtag-vzk gerade wenn das wiki keine userpages durchsucht wäre es doch besser, das in den allgemeinen namespace zu verschieben oder kopieren, z.B. als proposal. ;-) Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[OSM-talk] New road style for Default Map style - pull requested is opened
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Extraire route d'OSM?
On est d'accord, simplement Shoreh voulant afficher un morceau, si la
requête ôté serveur a été plus efficace après son navigateur a ramé pour
afficher les 7 Mo rapidement obtenus.
Dans son cas il pouvait être préférable de tronquer les données côté
serveur.
Jean-Yvon
Le 11/08/2015 16:52, Christian Quest - cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit :
Paradoxalement, ne pas préciser de bbox peut être plus rapide... car
on n'utilise dans ce cas que la hiérarchie des objets. Là on part d'un
unique objet (la relation) et on récupère les enfants ce qui est
relativement rapide.
Le 10/08/2015 23:15, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :
Il a du mal car tu as récupéré toute la relation, sans tenir compte
de la zone zoomée.
Christian n'avait pas mis {{bbox}} pour tout récupérer : typiquement
on n'affiche pas sur un navigateur tant de données, on utilise plutôt
d'autres outils style JOSM.
Si la relation est toujours cyclique, s'il n'y pas de chien de garde
ou autre, il est possible que le rendu boucle jusqu'à planter le serveur.
Jean-Yvon
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Re: [Talk-at] Deklination
Hallo, weiß nicht, ob ich dich richtig verstanden habe. Aber eine lange gerade Straße, die früher schon als Referenz verwendet wurde ist die Neunkirchner Allee zwischen Wr. Neustadt und Neunkirchen. http://osm.org/go/0I9~ordt-?way=326533451 lg Andreas Am 2015-08-11 um 13:57 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann: Auf http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag-web/#declination und http://www.gfz-potsdam.de/deklinationsrechner/ kann man die Deklination nach zwei verschiedenen Modellen berechnen lassen, aber die Ergebnisse sind nicht ganz gleich. Welches Modell ist für AT genauer? Gibt es irgendwo eine aktuelle (d.h. max. 1 Jahr alte), auf Messungen basierende Deklinationskarte für AT? Sehr hilfreich wär auch eine Linie in der Natur, die man für die Kalibrierung nutzen kann, z.B. eine genau geografisch S-N verlaufende, gerade Straße mit wenig Verkehr, oder einen Punkt, von dem man einen Kirchturm genau in geografischer Nordrichtung sieht, oder zwei auf dem selben Meridian liegende Gipfel. Kennt jemand sowas? Wichtig ist dabei natürlich, dass nichts Metallisches (Gipfelkreuz, Laternenmasten...) in der Nähe des Blickpunkts ist. ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-it] visualizzazione di una versione vecchia di un way in JOSM
From: Volker Schmidt [mailto:vosc...@gmail.com] Sent: martedì 11 agosto 2015 20:53 To: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-it] visualizzazione di una versione vecchia di un way in JOSM Esiste un metodo semplice per visualizzare in JOSM una versione vecchia di un way per fare il confronto della geometria? Grazie Volker Direttamente in JOSM non saprei. Passando da Overpass Turbo puoi scaricare la versione alla data voluta con una query del tipo (metti data ed id voluti): [date:2015-08-02T00:00:00Z]; way(362963201); (._;;); out meta; Quando hai il risultato, clicchi export e chiedi di caricarla in Josm con remote control. Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] visualizzazione di una versione vecchia di un way in JOSM
Il giorno mar, 11/08/2015 alle 20.52 +0200, Volker Schmidt ha scritto: Esiste un metodo semplice per visualizzare in JOSM una versione vecchia di un way per fare il confronto della geometria? Grazie Volker Puoi usare il reverter selezionando la casella per scaricare in un nuovo livello Lorenzo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-at] Deklination
On 11.08.2015 21:14, Andreas wrote: weiß nicht, ob ich dich richtig verstanden habe. Aber eine lange gerade Straße, die früher schon als Referenz verwendet wurde ist die Neunkirchner Allee zwischen Wr. Neustadt und Neunkirchen. An die habe ich schon ebenso gedacht wie an die Prater-Hauptallee, aber beide haben einen unrunden Azimut, z.B. die Neunkirchner Allee hat 52,1° (bzw. 232,1°) lt. NÖ-GIS, und da weiß ich nicht mal sicher, ob das stimmt. Hast du vielleicht einen genauen Wert? Der Verkehr ist ebenfalls störend, aber man kann sich natürlich auf einen der Parkplätze stellen und entlang des Banketts messen. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] licence et rapprochement de données (PSS, OpenFlights)
Bonjour, on va simplifier : alors que le titre semblait indiquer que ourairports était américano-américain, il est en fait mondial et en données versées au domaine public. J'ai fait un comparatif qui semble parler de lui-même : OurAirports OpenFlights License *public domain* souhaitent mais n'exigent pas d'être cités OBdL/commercial Entrées *46 516*8 107 Positionlat, lon, ele lat, lon, ele (en pieds) latitudelatitude_deglat longitude longitude_deg lon altitudeelevation_ftele_ft *Type* ballonport heliport seaplane_base small_airport medium_airport large_airport closed - Dénomination name:en name localitécouple ville principale/commune du site quelques vides city= ville principale name=commune locale ou lieu-dit continent oui - paysiso_country country état/région iso_region - Référence 3 alpha (iata) iata_code iata 4 alpha (icao) gps_codeicao 4-7 alpha ident code local/nationalde l'aéroportlocal_code wikipedia:en*wikipedia_link* website *home_link* Divers scheduled_service indique si les vols sont préprogrammés - fuseau horaire - oui, mais heure d'été sujette à caution dans certains états Voici ce que ça donne sur un degré carré : OpenFlightID Name City Country iata icao Lat Lon AltitudeFt Timezone DSTtype TimezoneName 1403 Guipavas Brest France BES LFRB 48,447911 -4,418539 325 1 E Europe/Paris 1411Landivisiau Landivisiau France LFRJ48,530258 -4,151642 348 1 E Europe/Paris 1413Poulmic LanvedocFrance LFRL48,281703 -4,445017 287 1 E Europe/Paris Aucun héliport, une erreur dans le nom d'une ville (Lanvéoc), localisation moins précise que ci-dessous. ident type name latitude_deg longitude_deg elevation_ft continent iso_country iso_region municipality scheduled_service gps_code iata_code local_code home_link wikipedia_link keywords FR-0046 heliport Amirauté Heliport 48,3805542 -4,49166679 8 EU FR FR-E Brest no FR-0053 heliport La Cavale Blanche Centre Hospitalier Heliport 48,40353012 -4,52956676 121 EU FR FR-E Brest no *LFRB* *medium_airport* *Brest Bretagne Airport* *48,44789886* *-4,41854* *325* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Brest/Guipavas* *yes* *LFRB* *BES* * * * * *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brest_Bretagne_Airport* *LFRJ* *medium_airport* *Landivisiau Air Base* *48,53030014* *-4,15163994* *348* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Landivisiau* *no* *LFRJ* *LDV* * * * * * * * * *LFRL* *medium_airport* *Lanvéoc-Poulmic Air Base* *48,28170013* *-4,4450202* *287* *EU* *FR* *FR-E* *Lanvéoc/Poulmic* *no* *LFRL* * * * * * * * * * * Sachant que OpenStreeMap trouve 6 héliports. Se pose la question de la meilleure façon de rapprocher les données. Est-ce que vous savez à quoi ident correspondrait sur OpenStreeMap ? ça ressemble à une référence internationale. Jean-Yvon ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-pe] etiquetas para áreas deforestadas
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Johnattan Rupire jarja...@riseup.net wrote: Eso, qué etiquetas se están usando para señalar áreas deforestadas? En Mapazonia dibujamos el área deforestada y usamos landuse=meadow [1], comunmente con rol inner en el multipolygon. Va desde desmonte hasta uso agropecuario/pastoreo y que crece algo ahí. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow Abrazos, Marco Antonio ___ Talk-pe mailing list Talk-pe@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pe
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 85, Issue 6
Nice Maning.. If you go back to Butuan, I think our friends from CSU are interested in attended to such events and contributing to OSM.. Especially for the GE dept under their mapping exercises and community outreach programs. regards, jessie On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:00 PM, talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to talk-ph@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-ph-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of talk-ph digest... Today's Topics: 1. my trip report Butuan Mapping Party (maning sambale) 2. need a training team for the OSM training with HSBC (maning sambale) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 20:29:10 +0800 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-ph] my trip report Butuan Mapping Party Message-ID: CAPzumuEVYCH37+Xh3ZdAWFzbEMVSkphfUf8Tjk4dQm=_ 1jv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/diary/35564 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:06:24 +0800 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-ph] need a training team for the OSM training with HSBC Message-ID: capzumuf3b8c0yxbe0ggsbgvgbczuvov7e+6-fd6ksxdu9a1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, There is planned one-day OSM workshop with HSBC. Initially, the schedule will be September 5, 2015. I'm looking for people willing to lead and assist in this one-day workshop. Even if you feel you are not yet competent to be a trainor, you can still join the training team, just treat this as your apprenticeship ;) Please email me if you're interested. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- End of talk-ph Digest, Vol 85, Issue 6 ** ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[Talk-es] Mapas
Dias pasados baje partes de mapas de Italia y Francia en una mini SD al GPS garmin nuvi 1490 pero no los lee, pienso que tal vez algun archivo no lo bajo correctamente? Atentamente Hector desde Argentina ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
