Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
On 7/14/05, Ian A. White wrote: Well, now that you mention it this happened to me this morning. My normal template uses a disclaimer and I went to great lengths to make sure that it was spelling mistake free. Then when I sent an e-mail to my accountant this morning, the normal spelling check before sending came up with an error in the disclaimer. Two words had merged and a character went missing. I guess a spell checker would pick this up too. Anyway, for me, this is a definite showstopper with 3.51. If I cannot trust my email client to transmit what I type, then I simply cannot use it. Natasha, since you were the first one to report this, why don't you post something on BT. I will then go and anoint your words. :-) -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.5.36 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello all, Thursday, July 14, 2005, Jay Walker wrote: On 7/14/05, Natasha V Pearce wrote: I write part of an email, save it and come back to it in the Outbox later, only to find some random characters have disappeared. Can be from anywhere: beginning, middle or end of a word or sometimes it can span between two words. It happened to me also. What seemed to be a distinct degrading of my typing - or thinking - skills. The problem is that you don't notice it unless you get a message back that you sent to a mailing list and you happen to read it again. Here and there a few words joined at the hip instead of marching in order. I also noticed some other, apparently random events - but nothing that I wanted to report. My sense is that TB 3.51 is haunted. :-) I've gone back to an earlier version. 3.5.36 seemed to be more reliable. 3.51 has new charsets system including Unicode, Stef is working on it right now. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Account selection screen
Hello all, Thursday, July 14, 2005, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: Funny: I went to the Editor window, Customize.. and add the Set active account command to my Standard toolbar. Now I have all of my accounts as text in the toolbar line, but if I click on them, nothing happens... :) I guess, it is a bug, but I dont report it, as the customization is half-baked, yet. Such behaviour of some customised toolbars is not only restricted to selecting active account. For example, selecting colours also does not work. I remember that Max or Valera wrote that this concerns to all items added by user. So, we must wait for improvements :-( improvements were done and are tested now, wait for next version. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F9 font problem not solved
Hello Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 8:54:55 PM, I wrote: F9 font problem in 3.51 MSI still not solved. See attached picture. -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.51 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A fonts.png Description: PNG image pgpPoaLiQr8c0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Some characters are dropped in message viewer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Liste, I have noticed that in some case some characters are not displayed. (using both viewers) Please search for vec La Poste in the attached message. It will appear at two different locations. But normally it should be Avec La Poste in both cases. In message source the Avec La Poste is present, but TB!3.51 drops the A Maybe it is related to the other Thread MicroEd dropping random characters ? - -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.51 and on Windows 2000 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQtY4asZ91a5PorN5EQLzrgCgt295kHWeF35z+tkW31KoCtaF1GcAoI3a PdcE2vmrH32vKz6ORUv71hwl =Zmcj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MailTicker View Mode Issue
Hello Ben, Howdy Ben, Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 11:25:19 PM, Ben wrotened: BA Howdy Martin, BA Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 4:36:19 PM, Martin wrotened: MS Hello tbbeta, MS When I try to change the viewmode of the MS mailticker list window (the one that pops up when you doubleclick on MS the ticker) it does not change. MS Can anyone confirm this? BA Unfortunately no. Or at least not this time. Must be something that BA works properly with the mail ticker... grin... Ok its lost the view mode. I went through your steps to reproduce, then replied, which exits the mail ticker. Then when i went back to reading mail. Its had lost the view mode. Each time i go back to the mailticker i have to reload the view mode. Do you suppose that our errors are linked? I didn't mean to hijack the thread... Yeah, think so. Even though here I can't even switch the viewmode, when I manually change the settings they're lost next time. So no thread hijacking here... Should we do a bugtrack here? -- Martin TB! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MailTicker View Mode Issue
Howdy Martin, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 11:08:53 AM, Martin wrotened: MS When I try to change the viewmode of the MS mailticker list window (the one that pops up when you doubleclick on MS the ticker) it does not change. MS Can anyone confirm this? Ok its lost the view mode. I went through your steps to reproduce, then replied, which exits the mail ticker. Then when i went back to reading mail. Its had lost the view mode. Each time i go back to the mailticker i have to reload the view mode. Do you suppose that our errors are linked? I didn't mean to hijack the thread... MS Yeah, think so. Even though here I can't even switch the viewmode, MS when I manually change the settings they're lost next time. So no MS thread hijacking here... MS Should we do a bugtrack here? Link below: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4902 I put in the details of mine... So that you could put in yours while they are similar and related didnt want to assume they are exactly the same. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.5.36 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM Don't look conspicuous, it draws fire. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha! On Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 10:44 PM, you wrote: Since upgrading to 3.51 Pro... I write part of an email, save it and come back to it in the Outbox later, only to find some random characters have disappeared. Can be from anywhere: beginning, middle or end of a word or sometimes it can span between two words. Yes. Or I send it and decide to re-read it after it's sent and characters (usually only one or two characters) are missing. At first, I thought my typing skills were evaporating, but then I started to notice the same problem turning up in quoted parts of my replies. Tried with and without my reply templates, but with no difference. I have seen this, also. I became certain that the errors were not my own typos, though, when TB! all on its own took the ds out of Best regards. It's an article of conscious practice with me not to mess with that signature template. Something buggy happens when TB! places a message composed in MicroEd in the Outbox or when it Sends the message. I have, as a test, copied a composed message to a sub-folder of the Outbox which I've named Reference (where I check to see if a Smiley is displaying its image as I wish it to, from time to time). I'll see the missing characters. I'll go back to the Edit window and put them back in and Send the message. The characters that I put back in will be there. But a random other character or two will be missing. Apologies for not having more detail re cause/effect: seems entirely random to me. And to me, also. It's been happening ever since I installed v. 3.51. I hesitated to report it--given its random occurrence. (And also given my penchant for making typos! :) ) Could be the work happening re unicode, etc? Or the general editor work we were discussing a few weeks ago? I hope this will turn out to be a general enough fault to justify a BT report and that the development team will have an idea where to look for the cause! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Search hangs
Roelof, Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 8:41:19 AM, you wrote: RO Maybe you could try to do some maintenance. RO Folder - Maintenance - Check all folders and all options - Start I'm afraid to activate one option: ( ) Purge old/exceeding messages I cannot find a definition of what TheBat! considers old and I do not recognize that usage of 'exceeding'. Since how old is 'old' and just what might some messages be 'exceeding' are both unknowns (to me, at least) I'm not going to turn that one on. But after running maintenance with the other three TheBat! saved over 200MB, but search still hangs completely in at least one of my folders. And I don't mean it is very slow (unless you consider glacial to be FAST)...it hangs completely. I've let it run literally for DAYS (once over a three day weekend) and this time it ran overnight without any progress after finding a few matches. Killing TheBat! is the only way to get rid of the corpse of the search tool. -- Steve Valliere | tb3.51 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Search hangs
Thomas, Wednesday, July 13, 2005, 10:38:31 AM, you wrote: TF Are you guys using OTFE? I must plead ignorance on that one. What is OTFE and how would I know if I was using it? Is it an option somewhere in TheBat! ? ? If it is a plugin, then I am definitely NOT using it as I've yet to find a plugin that has any value to me. Ergo, I have NO plugins installed at all. -- Steve Valliere | tb3.51 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Jay Natasha, since you were the first one to report this, why don't you post something on BT. I will then go and anoint your words. :-) Have posted at the following URL: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904. All support welcomed. :) -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Mary, Since upgrading to 3.51 Pro... I write part of an email, save it and come back to it in the Outbox later, only to find some random characters have disappeared. Can be from anywhere: beginning, middle or end of a word or sometimes it can span between two words. Yes. Or I send it and decide to re-read it after it's sent and characters (usually only one or two characters) are missing. What is the exact byte size of your thebat.exe file? Mine is 10,960,184 bytes. I dont see this behaviour... -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Mary, Yes. Or I send it and decide to re-read it after it's sent and characters (usually only one or two characters) are missing. What is set at Options, Character set, when you are writing the mail? -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha, Have posted at the following URL: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904. All support welcomed. :) Why did you write 3.51.1 as the version no? Mine shows only 3.51... I would like to reproduce your problem, but I cannot. -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 8:41 AM, you wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904. All support welcomed. :) Note added. Thanks a mil for doing this! :thankyou: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Vili What is the exact byte size of your thebat.exe file? Mine is 10,960,184 bytes. Same here. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Mary Note added. Thanks a mil for doing this! :thankyou: And :thankyou: in return for your note! -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 8:45 AM, you wrote: Since upgrading to 3.51 Pro... I write part of an email, save it and come back to it in the Outbox later, only to find some random characters have disappeared. Can be from anywhere: beginning, middle or end of a word or sometimes it can span between two words. Yes. Or I send it and decide to re-read it after it's sent and characters (usually only one or two characters) are missing. What is the exact byte size of your thebat.exe file? Mine is 10,960,184 bytes. Same here, as told in Properties. Says, Size on Disk: 10,977, 280 bytes. Does that figure matter? Is it the same as yours? I dont see this behaviour... There's now a BT report, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 Half a dozen of us, so far, are seeing this behavior, per posts here and by PM reports. Marek Mikus seems to say that Stefan is working on fixing it: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Vili Why did you write 3.51.1 as the version no? Mine shows only 3.51... oops! My mistake. Didn't wait to hear the .1 at the end. Looking back at the combo where this is set, though, reveals that .1 and .2 are the only .51 levels listed. My version is actually 3.51.0.0. Anyone know where the Edit option is hiding on the BT page? I'd rather edit the report to show the true level number. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 8:47 AM, you wrote: Yes. Or I send it and decide to re-read it after it's sent and characters (usually only one or two characters) are missing. What is set at Options, Character set, when you are writing the mail? Hmm. In Options/Preferences/Character sets (XLAT), I find a random amount of languages checked. If it's important to know all of them, I shall do a screen shot for you, because it is laborious to hand-copy each one. I have never touched these settings. They are on my machine apparently as the Default setting, because that's how they came with the v. 3.51 installation on July 6, 2005. One that may be significant here is that Unicode-UTF8 is checked. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Mary, On Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 17:02, you wrote: MB Says, Size on Disk: 10,977, 280 bytes. MB Does that figure matter? Is it the same as yours? File always (well, almost allways) takes more space on disk than file's actual size is. The only situation when filesize is the same as space taken on disk is when filesize is repetitive to file system cluster size. Don't bother too much about size on disk, probably it will vary from mashine to mashine for the same file. -- Edvinas Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:11 AM, you wrote: Why did you write 3.51.1 as the version no? Mine shows only 3.51... oops! My mistake. Didn't wait to hear the .1 at the end. Looking back at the combo where this is set, though, reveals that .1 and .2 are the only .51 levels listed. I think we have to take from what the scrollable menu offers when we write a report. My version is actually 3.51.0.0. Anyone know where the Edit option is hiding on the BT page? I'd rather edit the report to show the true level number. I don't think we have an Edit function, after we've submitted a BT note. I think you could say this by Add, in the supporting notes function, though. I've never seen my version described as 3.51.0.0; only as 3.5. Where did you get those .'s and 0's ? :huh: Just curious. ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Vili What is set at Options, Character set, when you are writing the mail? I havent installed any additional character sets, so perhaps these were set by default when I installed TB. Arabic(ISO) iso-8859-6 Baltic(ISO) iso-8859-4 Central European (ISO) iso-8859-2 Chinese Simplified(EUC) EUC-CN Chinese Simplified(GB2312) gb2312 Chinese Traditional(Big5) big5 Cyrillic(ISO) iso-8859-5 Cyrillic(KOI8-R) koi8-r Cyrillic(KOI8-U) koi8-u Cyrillic(Windows) windows-1251 Greek(ISO) iso-8859-7 Greek(Windows) windows-1253 Hebrew(ISO-Visual) iso-8859-8 IBM EBCDIC(Turkish Latin-5) CP1026 Japanese(EUC) euc-jp Japanese(JIS) iso-2022-jp Latin 3(ISO) iso-8859-3 Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15 Thai(Windows) windows-874 Turkish(Windows) windows-1254 Unicode(UTF-8) utf-8 Western European(ISO) iso-8859-1 -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:21 AM, you wrote: MB Says, Size on Disk: 10,977, 280 bytes. MB Does that figure matter? Is it the same as yours? File always (well, almost allways) takes more space on disk than file's actual size is. The only situation when filesize is the same as space taken on disk is when filesize is repetitive to file system cluster size. I see. Thanks. Don't bother too much about size on disk, probably it will vary from mashine to mashine for the same file. Glad to understand this now. BTW, are you seeing random character omissions after Sending or Putting in Outbox a message composed in the MicroEd Editor window? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha, On Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 17:25, you wrote: NVP I havent installed any additional character sets, so perhaps these were set by NVP default when I installed TB. NVP Arabic(ISO) iso-8859-6 NVP Baltic(ISO) iso-8859-4 [skipped] Vili was not asking what character sets are installed. His question was what character set was used while you were composing that message which had characters dropped. I managed characters to disappear only in one case: I was composing message in utf-8 charset and all characters, which require 2, 3 or 4 bytes in utf-8 (in other words -- characters outside us-ascii) were dropped. -- Edvinas Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Mary I don't think we have an Edit function, after we've submitted a BT note. I think you could say this by Add, in the supporting notes function, though. I was hoping to avoid this (too much like talking to myself :) ) but what the hey. Note added. I've never seen my version described as 3.51.0.0; only as 3.5. Where did you get those .'s and 0's ? :huh: Bought 'em secondhand from a dodgy bloke down the market. :) SCNR Alternatively: check out the View tab of the properties for the program. Lots of other interesting stuff there, too. Just curious. ;) Always a good quality. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Search hangs
Hello Steven! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 8:38 AM, you wrote: ,,, What is OTFE and how would I know if I was using it? Is it an option somewhere in TheBat! ? ? It's an acronym for On-The-Fly-Encryption. This is available only in The Bat! Professional versions, and it can only be chosen during the Installation procedure. You would know if you were using it. The Bat! would require a password from you at launch. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Edvinas Vili was not asking what character sets are installed. His question was what character set was used while you were composing that message which had characters dropped. Well spotted. He sure was. Apologies for that. I'm using Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:35 AM, you wrote: I don't think we have an Edit function, after we've submitted a BT note. I think you could say this by Add, in the supporting notes function, though. I was hoping to avoid this (too much like talking to myself :) ) but what the hey. Note added. BT e-mail notification just came down to me, since I clicked on Monitor after I added my note. You done good! Good that you put the file size info in, also! :) I've never seen my version described as 3.51.0.0; only as 3.5. Where did you get those .'s and 0's ? :huh: Bought 'em secondhand from a dodgy bloke down the market. :) SCNR hehehe Alternatively: check out the View tab of the properties for the program. Lots of other interesting stuff there, too. Yay! I'll be a Geek, yet! :thinking: Just curious. ;) Always a good quality. Glad you approve. ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:35 AM, you wrote: His question was what character set was used while you were composing that message which had characters dropped. How can I tell? I managed characters to disappear only in one case: I was composing message in utf-8 charset and all characters, which require 2, 3 or 4 bytes in utf-8 (in other words -- characters outside us-ascii) were dropped. Where can I choose the character set to be used? Would I be better off to choose us-ascii? If so, how to choose that? It's evident that I used the Default set, whatever that is, since I touched none of these settings either prior to or after installing v. 3.51.0.0. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:40 AM, you wrote: His question was what character set was used while you were composing that message which had characters dropped. Well spotted. He sure was. Apologies for that. I'm using Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. Maybe this is essential information to add to the Bug Track report? I don't know how to find out what I am using. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Mary (and Natasha and Edvinas)! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:51 AM, you wrote: Well spotted. He sure was. Apologies for that. I'm using Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. Maybe this is essential information to add to the Bug Track report? I don't know how to find out what I am using. :( Aha! The penny dropped. I looked in Specials/View Source. I am using us-ascii. So, should I add this info to my BT confirmation at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 ? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:40 AM, you wrote: His question was what character set was used while you were composing that message which had characters dropped. Well spotted. He sure was. Apologies for that. I'm using Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. I've just added a note to BT that my character set on the misbehaving messages is us-ascii. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Mary, On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 9:40 AM, you wrote: His question was what character set was used while you were composing that message which had characters dropped. Well spotted. He sure was. Apologies for that. I'm using Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. Maybe this is essential information to add to the Bug Track report? I don't know how to find out what I am using. :( Me too, and did not see missing letters. But: I saw a strange behaviour... I select UTF-8 in MicroEd, save the mail as Draft, and when I open again and check the charset, it is set to Western European, the next item in the Options, Character set list in the Editor window... Can you reproduce it? Maybe it is the cause of the bug? Unwanted charset change when reopening the mail? -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas, I managed characters to disappear only in one case: I was composing message in utf-8 charset and all characters, which require 2, 3 or 4 bytes in utf-8 (in other words -- characters outside us-ascii) were dropped. Just a note. I guess you are sending out your mails here as HTML. Moderators will kick your glass for that :))) -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili, On Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 18:19, you wrote: V Just a note. I guess you are sending out your mails here as HTML. Wrong guess. I never write HTML mail :) -- Edvinas Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili, On Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 18:18, you wrote: V But: I saw a strange behaviour... I select UTF-8 in MicroEd, save the V mail as Draft, and when I open again and check the charset, it is set V to Western European, the next item in the Options, Character set V list in the Editor window... V Can you reproduce it? Maybe it is the cause of the bug? Unwanted V charset change when reopening the mail? Yes I can reproduce it. And also I can explain why this happens. You do not use any character outside us-ascii and the Bat marks this message's charset as us-ascii when you save that message to draft. You can check that by viewing message source (F9). However if you enter any character which is outside us-ascii (let's say äöü) then charset of that saved message is set as utf-8. And if you reopen that message all those äöü will be gone. -- Edvinas Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Forgot to say that all those characters will disappear when you reply to message containing those characters. -- Edvinas Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 10:18 AM, you wrote: ... I'm using Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. ... Maybe this is essential information to add to the Bug Track report? I don't know how to find out what I am using. :( I have now found where to look. I have been in the past using us-ascii. Me too, and did not see missing letters. Do you mean Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. by that me too ? But: I saw a strange behaviour... I select UTF-8 in MicroEd, save the mail as Draft, and when I open again and check the charset, it is set to Western European, the next item in the Options, Character set list in the Editor window... Confirmed. Can you reproduce it? Maybe it is the cause of the bug? Unwanted charset change when reopening the mail? I have just reproduced it using this very mail reply. :) Will you please add a note about this to: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 TIA -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 10:41 AM, you wrote: Forgot to say that all those characters will disappear when you reply to message containing those characters. Would you be so kind (if you don't mind) to add your information to the BT report? http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 TIA. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 10:39 AM, you wrote: You do not use any character outside us-ascii and the Bat marks this message's charset as us-ascii when you save that message to draft. You can check that by viewing message source (F9). However if you enter any character which is outside us-ascii (let's say äöü) then charset of that saved message is set as utf-8. And if you reopen that message all those äöü will be gone. So The Bat! is assigning the charsets? And this is where the bug lies? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Search hangs
Hello Vili, On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:58:17 -0400 GMT (13/07/2005, 23:58 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V Alt+E, Alt+U, Alt+1. V Alt+EU1 :)) What are these? Don't seem to do anything here. V Shortcut on the Search window. (E)dit, (U)se previous..., V (1).condition I see what you mean. It just shows the search strings over here. Never mind. -- Cheers, Thomas. Domino vobiscum. (Latin for: The pizza guy is here.) Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:19:46 -0400 GMT (14/07/2005, 22:19 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V Just a note. I guess you are sending out your mails here as HTML. V Moderators will kick your glass for that :))) No, he was posting in UTF. The viewer switches automatically from PTV to RTV, a most annoying behaviour upon receipt. -- Cheers, Thomas. Thursday at 5:00 PM there will be a meeting of the Ladies Little Mothers Club. All wishing to become little mothers, please see the minister in his study. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Maintenance hangs (was: Search hangs)
Hello Steven, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:35:10 -0400 GMT (14/07/2005, 20:35 +0700 GMT), Steven P Valliere wrote: RO Folder - Maintenance - Check all folders and all options - Start SPV I'm afraid to activate one option: SPV ( ) Purge old/exceeding messages SPV I cannot find a definition of what TheBat! considers SPV old and I do not recognize that usage of 'exceeding'. Right-click on the folder, choose properties. The value you have set under Maximum messages defines exceeding, and the number at keep messages for xxx days defines old. If you have not set anything here, nothing will be purged. SPV But after running maintenance with the other three SPV TheBat! saved over 200MB, but search still hangs SPV completely in at least one of my folders. And I don't SPV mean it is very slow (unless you consider glacial to SPV be FAST)...it hangs completely. I've let it run literally SPV for DAYS (once over a three day weekend) and this time it SPV ran overnight without any progress after finding a few SPV matches. Killing TheBat! is the only way to get rid of SPV the corpse of the search tool. I noticed an possible memory leak in an older version of TB, not sure whether it is fixed in the recent one. Because I experience this only in the office, where the folders are pretty big. Ok, first: The bigger the total folder is, the longer it takes to compress, if at least one message was deleted. Second: The more work TB needs to do when compressing, the more memory is used up. (This is my subjective feeling, I didn't measure this in any way. But after full maintenance on all folders, my computer becomes sluggish and I need to restart it.) Third: The more the disk is defragmented, the longer it takes. My suggestion: Degragment the disk, reboot the computer, and then purge compress only that folder. See whether aintenance still hangs. How much memory do you have? -- Cheers, Thomas. It's paradoxical that the idea of living a long life appeals to everyone, but the idea of getting old doesn't appeal to anyone. -- Andy Rooney Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.51: VFs still don't refresh properly
Hello all, Not always, but enough times, VFs are not refreshed even though they are set to 'Auto-refresh'. For example see attached PNG. My VF 'I-O-Threads' is set to view 'Any message' from my Inbox and Sent Mail folders so I can see them threaded. I have just replied to the last Unread one I had in my Inbox and then marked the message as Read. The VF shows my reply properly threaded (se it was refreshed by that) but the message I replied to (plus another one) is still shown as Unread and not shown as Replied. A manual refresh seems to work, but not completely. When I do the manual refresh a number of messages disappear from the VF. Moving to another VF or real folder and coming back to the VF in question brings back the disappeared messages. I wish I had more time to further investigate this problem, but I can't do so right now. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 VFs_no_refresh.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 11:04 AM, you wrote: MB So The Bat! is assigning the charsets? us-ascii is a subset of every other charset and it is good behaviour of a program if it sets charset to us-ascii in case when none of non us-ascii characters are used. However such behaviour has it's disatvantages as we can see now. Probably this us-ascii check should be done just before very sending of the message. Thank you so very much for the patient tutorial. :) MB And this is where the bug lies? I could tell you if I'd have The Bat! source code ;) lol Well, Marek Mikus did seem to imply that Stefan is working on this. I do hope so! Also I have reported to list a lot of utf-8 related bugs in my message [EMAIL PROTECTED] (search by that message id, don't know how to make a link to that message), you can check those issues if you want to :) Off to search for it. TB! is still rather slow in presenting search results here. Another reported deficiency. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Mary, on Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:48:33 -0500GMT (14.07.2005, 16:48 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MB Where can I choose the character set to be used? MB Would I be better off to choose us-ascii? If so, how to choose that? It is displayed in the message editor bottom right. Rightclick and see all installed charsets to make your selection. MB It's evident that I used the Default set, whatever that is, since I MB touched none of these settings either prior to or after installing v. MB 3.51.0.0. us-ascii is perfectly right for you as the default, because that's what you normally use. If, in replies, you quote other characters, The Bat! should adjust the setting. I didn't test this recently though... ;-) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.51 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F9 font problem not solved
Hello Martin, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:13:38 +0200 GMT (14/07/2005, 16:13 +0700 GMT), Martin Schoch wrote: F9 font problem in 3.51 MSI still not solved. MS See attached picture. I confirm that I have a weird character set in the source viewer, but I believe there is a setting for the font somewhere. This should correct it. I just cannot find it any more. -- Cheers, Thomas. 24 Dinge, die man beim Sex nicht sagen sollte: 8. Du bist fast so gut wie mein Ex! Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 11:04 AM, you wrote: Also I have reported to list a lot of utf-8 related bugs in my message [EMAIL PROTECTED] (search by that message id, don't know how to make a link to that message), you can check those issues if you want to :) With your permission, I will write a note to http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 and do a cp of that post of yours, noting that these are possibly related issues. Some time back, Maxim Masiutin wrote that he does not keep an archive of TBBETA (IIRC). Additionally, I do recall clearly that Maxim and some of the other developers have said that they can give more orderly attention to issues when they are noted at BT. That's why I want to do this. Okay with you? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filter and OTFE - some do not work
Hello Peter Hampf everyone else, on 14-Jul-2005 at 12:53 you (Peter Hampf) wrote: can anybody confirm that a filter with the condition Message source [contains or match] does NOT work in conjunction with OTFE? I have the feeling that this condition doesn't work at all. See msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBUDL. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Everyday (8:41) by Bus vs Slide from the 2000 album 'The Warp Experience' Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hllo Ntasha V Parce evryone ele, on 14-Ju-2005 at 05:44 you (Nataha V Peace) wrte: Anone lse expeiening tis? o, I neer hd ay poblm ith it. SCNR! -- Bet reards, Alexader (http://www.neuowerx.de - ICQ 28153981) Delipayer2 is playng: Eveyday (841) y Bus vs Slde fro the 200 abum 'Te Wap Experiene' Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Search hangs
Hallo Steven, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:35:10 -0400GMT (14-7-2005, 15:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO Folder - Maintenance - Check all folders and all options - Start SPV I'm afraid to activate one option: SPV ( ) Purge old/exceeding messages SPV I cannot find a definition of what TheBat! considers SPV old and I do not recognize that usage of 'exceeding'. That depends on your folder settings. You can indicate in the folder properties how many messages you want to keep or for how long. When done so and you start purging then TB will keep those numbers in mind and act accordingly. SPV But after running maintenance with the other three SPV TheBat! saved over 200MB, but search still hangs SPV completely in at least one of my folders. Is it always the same folder where it hangs? -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vegi. (I came, I saw, I had a salad) The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpM164UzneIn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Het was op donderdag 14 juli 2005 om 18:26 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'MicroEd dropping random characters' : Hoi Alexander, ASK Hllo Ntasha V Parce evryone ele, ASK on 14-Ju-2005 at 05:44 you (Nataha V Peace) wrte: Anone lse expeiening tis? ASK o, I neer hd ay poblm ith it. ASK SCNR! mrn :-) btw what the hell does SCNR mean? -- groeten, Cees Als lullen pudding is ben JIJ Dr. Oetker. __ The Bat! 3.51 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0528-4, 14-07-2005 Tested on: 14-7-2005 18:30:24 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Peter! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 11:17 AM, you wrote: MB Where can I choose the character set to be used? MB Would I be better off to choose us-ascii? If so, how to choose MB that? It is displayed in the message editor bottom right. Rightclick and see all installed charsets to make your selection. Ah, many thanks! If it had been a snake, it would by now have bitten me! Unobservant Mary. lol MB It's evident that I used the Default set, whatever that is, since MB I touched none of these settings either prior to or after MB installing v. 3.51.0.0. us-ascii is perfectly right for you as the default, because that's what you normally use. If, in replies, you quote other characters, The Bat! should adjust the setting. I didn't test this recently though... ;-) It does; I've just been in conversation with Edvinas about it. BTW, are you seeing this unwanted missing characters behavior in the MicroEd/Outbox interactions? Or in your Viewer, as described by Hendrik Oesterlin in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Cees everyone else, on 14-Jul-2005 at 18:29 you (Cees) wrote: SCNR Sorry, Could Not Resist -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Namaska (10:01) by Excession from the 2000 album 'The Warp Experience' Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Cees! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 11:29 AM, you wrote: btw what ... does SCNR mean? Sorry Could Not Resist! :gdr: Are you seeing these missing letters? Cees, viewer of the invisible! ;) SCNR -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Mary, on Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:30:18 -0500GMT (14.07.2005, 18:30 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MB BTW, are you seeing this unwanted missing characters behavior in the MB MicroEd/Outbox interactions? MB Or in your Viewer, as described by Hendrik Oesterlin in MB mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? I can't say I'm sorry, but, no, not yet. I'll watch for it! :-) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.51 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Peter! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 11:43 AM, you wrote: MB BTW, are you seeing this unwanted missing characters behavior MB in the MicroEd/Outbox interactions? MB Or in your Viewer, as described by Hendrik Oesterlin in MB mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? I can't say I'm sorry, but, no, not yet. I'll watch for it! :-) Thanks. That's all one can reasonably ask for. It's really hazardous behavior, for those of us who are experiencing it. Worse than dropping Smiley ascii characters when reading in RTV and then replying while using MicroEd. Hope it will be easier to fix than the missing Smileys bug; so far RitLabs has no solution for that one. :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Search hangs
Hello Thomas, V Alt+E, Alt+U, Alt+1. V Alt+EU1 :)) What are these? Don't seem to do anything here. V Shortcut on the Search window. (E)dit, (U)se previous..., V (1).condition I see what you mean. It just shows the search strings over here. Never mind. Me too, but I just talked about how to RECALL the last search. -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas, However if you enter any character which is outside us-ascii (let's say ) then charset of that saved message is set as utf-8. And if you reopen that message all those will be gone. And that is a huge bug. -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Mary, ... I'm using Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. ... Maybe this is essential information to add to the Bug Track report? I don't know how to find out what I am using. :( I have now found where to look. I have been in the past using us-ascii. Me too, and did not see missing letters. Do you mean Latin 9(ISO) iso-8859-15. by that me too ? I have Latin9 set, too. But: I saw a strange behaviour... I select UTF-8 in MicroEd, save the mail as Draft, and when I open again and check the charset, it is set to Western European, the next item in the Options, Character set list in the Editor window... Confirmed. Can you reproduce it? Maybe it is the cause of the bug? Unwanted charset change when reopening the mail? I have just reproduced it using this very mail reply. :) Will you please add a note about this to: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 Could you do this for me, Mary? I have to prepare a presentation, and I am way behind it... Just took 5 mins to relax, reading tBBETA :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello all, Thursday, July 14, 2005, Vili wrote: However if you enter any character which is outside us-ascii (let's say ) then charset of that saved message is set as utf-8. And if you reopen that message all those will be gone. And that is a huge bug. 3.51 introduced new charsets system, Stef is working on it actually. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Edvinas, V Just a note. I guess you are sending out your mails here as HTML. Wrong guess. I never write HTML mail :) Sorry, you have utf-8, that is why it had a different appearance at me :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Mary, on Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:48:07 -0500GMT (14.07.2005, 18:48 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MB It's really hazardous behavior, for those of us who are experiencing MB it. As to what I read, it obviously is. MB Worse than dropping Smiley ascii characters when reading in RTV MB and then replying while using MicroEd. This is my own setting, but as yet I haven't seen this happening here. hmm But then, I don't pay very much attention to the smileys. I find them neat, and sometimes even useful to express an emotion, albeit my vocabulary is limited to only a few, e.g., :beer: :batbeer: :grin: -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.51 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:05 PM, you wrote: However if you enter any character which is outside us-ascii (let's say ) then charset of that saved message is set as utf-8. And if you reopen that message all those will be gone. And that is a huge bug. So, can we expect a supporting note from you at: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 Pretty please? :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Marek! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:06 PM, you wrote: However if you enter any character which is outside us-ascii (let's say ) then charset of that saved message is set as utf-8. And if you reopen that message all those will be gone. And that is a huge bug. 3.51 introduced new charsets system, Stef is working on it actually. Thanks, Marek. I didn't understand for sure in your earlier post where you said this, if you meant only the new charsets system in general was being worked on, or whether you meant this specific bug in the charset behavior, the one reported at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 . -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: F9 font problem not solved
Hello Thomas, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 6:12:19 PM, you wrote: I confirm that I have a weird character set in the source viewer, but I believe there is a setting for the font somewhere. This should correct it. I just cannot find it any more. In Options - Preferences - Source Viewer you can choose the font - but the display problem remains with all different fonts. So it's a bug. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4782 -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.51 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Peter! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:08 PM, you wrote: MB It's really hazardous behavior, for those of us who are MB experiencing it. As to what I read, it obviously is. Yes. But if I understand Marek's last post correctly, Stefan is working on it. MB Worse than dropping Smiley ascii characters when reading in RTV MB and then replying while using MicroEd. This is my own setting, but as yet I haven't seen this happening here. hmm It happens only randomly. MAU began a thread about it here--he'd just had the unpleasant experience of having a Smiley indicating that he was joking omitted when someone quoted him in a Reply--a couple of weeks ago. But then, I don't pay very much attention to the smileys. I find them neat, and sometimes even useful to express an emotion, albeit my vocabulary is limited to only a few, e.g., :beer: :batbeer: :grin: You've been lucky that no one misquoted you and misunderstandings such as I experienced last year have not occurred for you. :) Cheers. :beerbuds: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:08 PM, you wrote: Will you please add a note about this to: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 Could you do this for me, Mary? I have to prepare a presentation, and I am way behind it... Just took 5 mins to relax, reading tBBETA :) I understand. And perhaps it is unnecessary, now. If I have read Marek Mikus's posts correctly, Stefan is working on the problem even as we speak. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Old bugs in 3.51
Hi list Again my usual message after a new beta is coming up: Before they are too old and forgotten - would it be possible to fix already and several times reported bugs which are still in 3.51 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4329 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4676 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4635 Thank you. -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.51 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A pgpjCfN9wKeSe.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old bugs in 3.51
Thursday, July 14, 2005, 7:25:17 PM, I wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4329 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4676 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4635 And a very old one is still not solved: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2456 -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.51 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Mary, However if you enter any character which is outside us-ascii (let's say ) then charset of that saved message is set as utf-8. And if you reopen that message all those will be gone. And that is a huge bug. So, can we expect a supporting note from you at: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 Pretty please? :) :)) Done. I sent a complete note (cut and paste rocks :)) -- Vili Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old bugs in 3.51
Hi Martin, In the message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] which was apparently written on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 6:25:17 PM. I believe you wrote: MS Again my usual message after a new beta is coming up: Ive missed a new beta? -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
On 7/14/05, Peter Meyns wrote: MB Where can I choose the character set to be used? It is displayed in the message editor bottom right. Rightclick and see all installed charsets to make your selection. Right-click, left-click... it's the same. But this setting only seems to apply to the current message. How is the default set? For me, the default is Western European (ISO). I don't even have US-ASCII checked in my XLAT table under Preferences. I have no idea where these settings come from or why they are what they are. -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.5.36 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Vili! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:35 PM, you wrote: And that is a huge bug. So, can we expect a supporting note from you at: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4904 Pretty please? :) :)) Done. ... Saw it. My everlasting thanks! :thankyou: I sent a complete note (cut and paste rocks :)) Doesn't it just! And a lot of good clues are now on that issues page! I am on cloud nine (the ultimate expression of happiness, :cloud9: ), in the hope this bug will soon be no more!! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F9 font problem not solved
Hello Martin, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:14:44 +0200 GMT (15/07/2005, 00:14 +0700 GMT), Martin Schoch wrote: MS In Options - Preferences - Source Viewer you can choose the font - but MS the display problem remains with all different fonts. So it's a bug. Not confirmed. Thanks for the tip, I changed the font to Courier New, and have no problems any more. WAD. -- Cheers, Thomas. Nordamerika besteht aus lauter kleinen und grossen Inseln, von denen jedoch die wenigsten von Wasser umflossen sind. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: F9 font problem not solved
Hello Thomas, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:36:28 PM, you wrote: Hello Martin, On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:14:44 +0200 GMT (15/07/2005, 00:14 +0700 GMT), Martin Schoch wrote: MS In Options - Preferences - Source Viewer you can choose the font - but MS the display problem remains with all different fonts. So it's a bug. Not confirmed. Thanks for the tip, I changed the font to Courier New, and have no problems any more. WAD. This is strictly a Windows 98 problem. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Old bugs in 3.51
Hello Liz, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 7:39:53 PM, you wrote: MS Again my usual message after a new beta is coming up: Ive missed a new beta? Not only beta - also true with released versions :-( -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.51 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old bugs in 3.51
Hi Martin, In the message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] which was apparently written on Thursday, July 14, 2005, 7:13:42 PM. I believe you wrote: MS Not only beta - also true with released versions :-( No, but Im currently on 3.51 (not sure where I got it from looking at the beta site) but, you mentioned new beta, Ive had this for a little while.. have I missed one?? -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Marek Mikus everyone else, on 14-Jul-2005 at 19:06 you (Marek Mikus) wrote: 3.51 introduced new charsets system, Stef is working on it actually. rubbing-my-eyes-in-disbelief The releasenote for 3.51 says: It fixes charset issues of the latest 3.5.xx. While it actually contains a new charset system, as you say. If not some beta tester would have stumbled over it when it started to wreck havoc on outgoing messages, when would the beta testers get the hint to actually test this, if at all? Please, let us know what has changed in new beta versions, or at least tell us be aware, this and that has changed, it is work in progress, don't report any bugs yet. It would be more... well, professional. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Venus (7:59) by Dreamtec from the 2000 album 'The Warp Experience' Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F9 font problem not solved
Hello Stuart Cuddy everyone else, on 14-Jul-2005 at 19:55 you (Stuart Cuddy) wrote: This is strictly a Windows 98 problem. Windows... what? ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Everyday (8:41) by Bus vs Slide from the 2000 album 'The Warp Experience' Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: F9 font problem not solved
Het was op donderdag 14 juli 2005 om 21:25 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'F9 font problem not solved' : Hoi Alexander, This is strictly a Windows 98 problem. ASK Windows... what? ;-) Crack sorry, broke 'm.. do you want the eX Pert version ? hehehe -- groeten, Cees QOTD: To hell with patience, I'm gonna kill me something! __ The Bat! 3.51 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0528-4, 14-07-2005 Tested on: 14-7-2005 21:29:59 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Mary, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 4:48:33 PM, among other things, you wrote: MB Would I be better off to choose us-ascii? If so, how to choose that? I don't know Mary, I am just using the default choices and so far have not noticed any problem. But as an aside to this general thread I am wondering why Ritlabs refer to it as US ascii. As I recall the definition, ascii stands for American standard code for information interchange. It is therefore never anything but American! -- Best regards, Roger Flying with The Bat!, version 3.51, with antispam BayesIt! 0.8.1, on Windows XP, version 5.1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Text missing in result window
Hi list An other Win98SE bug - in the result window of folder maintenance text is missing... -- Best regards, Martin TheBat! 3.51 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A maint.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Roger! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 2:44 PM, you wrote: MB Would I be better off to choose us-ascii? If so, how to choose MB that? I don't know Mary, I am just using the default choices and so far have not noticed any problem. ... I have been learning a lot on this long thread, and I think I now know that The Bat! chooses for me, whatever I have earlier selected. Like you, I did think that I was using the default choices. ... But as an aside to this general thread I am wondering why Ritlabs refer to it as US ascii. As I recall the definition, ascii stands for American standard code for information interchange. It is therefore never anything but American! You see, I am still learning! Maybe it's a politically correct thing? I seem to recall that a number of people in the world like to note that anyone who lives on either the North or the South American continent could accurately call himself/herself an American. It has been so traditional in my country, the United States of America, over the years, to have its name shortened to America, that I have had a learning curve to understand the sensitivities of people who object to that. The same with the traditional reference to U.S. nationals as Americans. But, if I had to guess, that would be the background for the term, us-ascii. :) -- Best regards, Mary :usflag: The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.51.3?
Hi tbbeta, according to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/changelog_page.php theres been a 3.51.1,2 and 3 a bug that has annoyed me a lot is supposedly fixed in 3.51.1 where can I get it to check and enjoy? -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.3?
Hello all, Thursday, July 14, 2005, Liz wrote: according to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/changelog_page.php theres been a 3.51.1,2 and 3 a bug that has annoyed me a lot is supposedly fixed in 3.51.1 where can I get it to check and enjoy? 3.51.3 will be released very soon and will be announced here, please wait. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some characters are dropped in message viewer
Hendrik Oesterlin wrotes on 14/07/2005 at 21:03:07 +1100 subject Some characters are dropped in message viewer : Please search for vec La Poste in the attached message. Just noticed that no message is attached Hoping that this time I will not forget it. ;) -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.51 and on Windows 2000---BeginMessage--- ~~ ~~ Synthèse du mercredi 13 juillet 2005 - La newsletter de Boursier.com http://www.boursier.com ~~ ~~ Découvrez notre partenaire ~~ Le Trading sur les devises avec ACM ! ACM est une société Suisse, faisant partie du plus gros broker non-bancaire au monde, le groupe Refco. Nous offrons un accès en ligne aux marchés des changes avec les meilleures conditions possibles, à savoir un spread de 2-3 pips et une exécution en un seul click. ACM offre aussi gratuitement des solutions complètes pour les banques et courtiers grâce à ses interfaces personnalisables. Cliquez sur le lien suivant pour une démonstration gratuite ! http://www.smartadserver.com/call/cliccommand/53161/[timestamp]? ~~ ~~ ~~ Marché ~~ Mi-séance Paris : le CAC40 reste en légère hausse LA TENDANCE DU JOUR Après une brève consolidation hier en fin de parcours, le CAC40 reprend son mouvement de hausse et progresse en milieu de journée de 0,35% à 4.328 points. Le contexte rester porteur pour le secteur pétrolier qui profite de l'appréciation du dollar et de cours du baril qui ne fléchissement pas. Les tempêtes tropicales menaçant toujours le Golfe du Mexique, le WTI remonte proche de 61 dollars. La remontée de l'Euro commence quand même à tempérer la tendance positive de marchés européens puisque la devise européenne a poursuivi hier son mouvement de hausse par rapport au dollar, en repassant au-dessus de 1,22, un niveau oublié depuis près d'un mois. On revient aujourd'hui à 1,219 en attendant le déficit commercial américain du mois de mai, attendu stable autour de 56-57 Milliards de Dollars. VALEURS EN HAUSSE Pernod Ricard s'adjuge 2% à 132,4 Euros, plus forte hausse du CAC40. La Deutsche Bank a relevé son objectif de cours à 150 Euros. Alcatel poursuit sur la lancée de sa hausse de la veille, sur un gain de 1,2% à 9,91 Euros. La société avait publié hier contre toute attente ses résultats préliminaires trimestriels, de bonne qualité et la plupart des analystes restent positifs sur la valeur. Total reste sur ses plus hauts, à 206 Euros (+1,2%). Légère hausse de Havas à 4,45 Euros (+0,3%) alors que Vincent Bolloré a officiellement pris la tête du groupe. Vallourec gagne 1% à 264 Euros, le groupe a annoncé aujourd'hui le succès son l'augmentation de capital, avec droit préférentiel de souscription, de 125 Millions d'Euros, qui a été largement sur-souscrite. VALEURS EN BAISSE La déception vient de Carrefour après un son chiffre d'affaires semestriel. Dans un difficile contexte de consommation, groupe a souffert en France et le titre perd 2,3% à 39 Euros, plus forte baisse du CAC40 tandis que Casino perd 1,8% à 57,5 Euros. Alstom a du mal à se redresser, subissant sans doute la sortie des spéculateurs alors que la société regroupera 40 actions en une le 3 août prochain. Le titre perd 2% à 0,83 Euro. Danone poursuit sa consolidation alors que la rumeur Pepsico s'atténue. L'action abandonne 1,3% à 77,70 Euros. EADS corrige de 1% à 26,4 Euros, après de nouveaux plus hauts historiques touchés ce matin. ~~ Conseils : valeurs françaises ~~ Carrefour : un chiffre d'affaires décevant - Sans réelles surprises ceci dit... http://www.boursier.com/vals/FR/conseil.asp?id=8521 Generix : effet d'annonce à suivre ? - Contrat avec La Poste... http://www.boursier.com/vals/FR/conseil.asp?id=8520 Seb : repli des ventes à périmètre constant - Conjoncture morose en France... http://www.boursier.com/vals/FR/conseil.asp?id=8519 CMT Medical Technologies : coupon à suivre - Une small cap décotée ? http://www.boursier.com/vals/FR/conseil.asp?id=8518 L'Oreal : la croissance s'accélère - Le newsflow redevient plus positif... http://www.boursier.com/vals/FR/conseil.asp?id=8517 Smoby : l'intégration de Berchet, un défi pour l'avenir - En
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hi Alexander Hllo Ntasha V Parce evryone ele, on 14-Ju-2005 at 05:44 you (Nataha V Peace) wrte: Anone lse expeiening tis? o, I neer hd ay poblm ith it. SCNR! :rofl2: Fantastic! -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: MicroEd dropping random characters
Hello Natasha! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 4:41 PM, you wrote: Hllo Ntasha V Parce evryone ele, on 14-Ju-2005 at 05:44 you (Nataha V Peace) wrte: Anone lse expeiening tis? o, I neer hd ay poblm ith it. SCNR! :rofl2: Fantsti! hehhhe -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.51.3 is now available
Hello All, The Bat! 3.51.3 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [+] UI: Possibility to extract single items for customizations [-] SMIME : Internal S/MIME implementation didn't honour KeyUsage and ExtKeyUsage ceritificate extensions [-] (#0004671) Subject text is jumping. [-] (#0003705) rich text viewer shows junk characters (blocks and ?s) when charset is none [-] (#0003765) It is impossible to create Unicode (UTF-7, UTF-8 etc) messages. [-] (#0004081) The setting of Protocol.INI should be configurable via GUI [-] (#0004710) On encrypted messagebase some filter actions doesn't work [-] (#0003711) Options in folder properties not used in VFs should be removed [-] (#0001577) option Check mailbox at startup in Account properties should be named Synchronise all folders at start-up [-] (#0004869) Autoreply filter not storing sent replies in Sent folder [-] (#0004752) Utilities - Insert quick template not usable [-] (#0001387) Windows Editor: hyperlinks are not highlighted and can't be opened [-] (#0004846) Macro %ABFROMNAME is broken in NFS - it returns %ABTONAME value [-] (#0004885) Browse Character Sets panel strings not available for translation [-] (#0004614) Buttons Edit/Delete in Quick Templates dialog are allways enabled even no QT exists [-] (#0004874) Access violation at address 00736676 [-] (#0003859) Buttons Edit/Delete in Actions and Links tabs are allways enabled even no action or link is selected [-] (#0004862) Unwanted message copies [-] Other : Various problems with characters sets -- 9Val Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51: VFs still don't refresh properly
On Thursday, July 14, 2005 @ 9:07:02 AM [-0700], MAU wrote: Not always, but enough times, VFs are not refreshed even though they are set to 'Auto-refresh'. Confirmed. It is not constant, but every so often I'll need to do a manual refresh on a few of my virtual folders. Other times, it works as expected. -- Matt Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.3 is now available
Hello 9Val! On Thursday, July 14, 2005, 5:15 PM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Up and running, thanks. Too early yet to report on whether the missing characters bug is gone. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.51.3: UI change
Hello 9Val, 9 [+] UI: Possibility to extract single items for customizations What means this? -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51.3 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.3: UI change
Hello all, Friday, July 15, 2005, Stuart Cuddy wrote: 9 [+] UI: Possibility to extract single items for customizations What means this? it was not possible to add to menu or define shortcut for items like language, theme, etc. so it is now possible. And It is possible to hide item. As I discovered, charsets are not available yet. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.3 is now available
Dear 9val, @15-Jul-2005, 01:15 +0300 (14-Jul 23:15 UK time) 9Val [9] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to All: 9 The Bat! 3.51.3 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9 [-] SMIME : Internal S/MIME implementation didn't honour KeyUsage and 9 ExtKeyUsage ceritificate extensions This seems to be the only certification changes but something is broken in TLS: 14/07/2005, 23:54:47: FETCH - Certificate S/N: C592E4F3CFF23016, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 23 Mar 2005 to 24 Mar 2009, for 9 host(s): home.silverstones.com, silverstones.com, mail.silverstones.com, mail.brainstormsw.com, mail.giftedscribble.co.uk, mail.womens-international.com, mail.beingrural.com, mail.buchanan.co.uk, crocodilecasting.com. 14/07/2005, 23:54:47: FETCH - Owner: GB, Silverstones, home.silverstones.com. 14/07/2005, 23:54:47: FETCH - This certificate is self-issued. !14/07/2005, 23:54:47: FETCH - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (The certificate cannot be used for this purpose). erm ... why not? -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51.3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpsIRxrYjTsp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Could not connect to IMAP server in TLS
With the last version (3.51.3), I could not connect to IMAP server in TLS. Revert back to 3.51. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cryptologie.com PGP FingerPrint 4252 4FE6 F29B E385 291D 99F3 FC0D 2058 CBB8 4573 - N F O - The Bat! 3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.8.1, MyMacros 1.11a This message was scan by McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.0.0.912 Engine 4.4.00 / Dat 4.0.4535 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.51.3: UI change
Hello Marek, A reminder of what Marek Mikus typed on: Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 00:58:35 GMT +0200 9 [+] UI: Possibility to extract single items for customizations What means this? MM it was not possible to add to menu or define shortcut for items like MM language, theme, etc. so it is now possible. And It is possible to MM hide item. As I discovered, charsets are not available yet. Ah yes. This is what I thought it was. I can now add View/Display/Only Unread Messages. It took me a while to find and is listed under Message controller about 50 rows down. When I add it, it adds a new entry in View Display at the bottom of the column and displays my shortcut. However it now has 2 entries for the same thing, one with a shortcut and one without. How should this be handled. I have attached a screenshot. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.51.3 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 ScreenShot001.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.51.3: UI change
Hello all, Friday, July 15, 2005, Stuart Cuddy wrote: MM it was not possible to add to menu or define shortcut for items like MM language, theme, etc. so it is now possible. And It is possible to MM hide item. As I discovered, charsets are not available yet. Ah yes. This is what I thought it was. I can now add View/Display/Only Unread Messages. It took me a while to find and is listed under Message controller about 50 rows down. When I add it, it adds a new entry in View Display at the bottom of the column and displays my shortcut. However it now has 2 entries for the same thing, one with a shortcut and one without. How should this be handled. check Hidden item to hide second one. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: 3.51.3: UI change
Hello Marek, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 6:28:09 PM, you wrote: When I add it, it adds a new entry in View Display at the bottom of the column and displays my shortcut. However it now has 2 entries for the same thing, one with a shortcut and one without. How should this be handled. check Hidden item to hide second one. I can hide the one I just created, but not the one that was already there. Then I will not be able to see the shortcut I just added. Not a big deal just seems kind of awkward. Any suggestions? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
