Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-18 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
On 06-10-17 (17:46), you wrote:
 I think that is enough.

IMVHO it is not enough.

 b.  RITs  sould  provide  some  explicit  and  user-friendy  procedure  of
 extending limitation in question.

 I can't see why one should need mor than 5 activations.

You should talk with customers who need it.


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Re: voyager_install-3-86-03.exe

2006-10-18 Thread Nick Danger
Reply to message sent 10/15/2006, @ 17:36:23 (9:36 AM Locally)
~~~

Hello Maxim,

 Could you please test

I know this isn't going to be terribly informative but I wanted to at
least report it: This version locks up for me after about two hours.
Since loading it up yesterday I've had to manually stop the program
and restart it every 2-3 hours.

I've rolled back to previous version which has been very reliable for
me.

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Maxim Masiutin  everyone else,

on 11-Okt-2006 at 21:53 you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote:

 The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA is available at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb38603.rar

 It should fix the problems with OTFE of previous beta, and should work
 faster than before.

The context menu item Locate Original (available when you right click
a message in a virtual folder) has been renamed to Follow in this
version. I just searched the context menu two times before I found the
item again, thought I'd need glasses, so:

Why?

I found the previous menu item much more descriptive than Follow. I
don't follow a message when I view in a virtual folder, I'm already
there. ;-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander,

 The context menu item Locate Original (available when you right click
 a message in a virtual folder) has been renamed to Follow in this
 version.

Not here, it still shows as 'Locate original'.

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MAU  everyone else,

on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:04 you (MAU) wrote:

 The context menu item Locate Original (available when you right
 click a message in a virtual folder) has been renamed to Follow in
 this version.

 Not here, it still shows as 'Locate original'.

See subject. You are using 3.86.02 according to your signature...

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Alexander,

on Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:57:20 +0200GMT, you wrote:

ASK The context menu item Locate Original (available when you right click
ASK a message in a virtual folder) has been renamed to Follow in this
ASK version. I just searched the context menu two times before I found the
ASK item again, thought I'd need glasses, so:

ASK Why?

ASK I found the previous menu item much more descriptive than Follow. I
ASK don't follow a message when I view in a virtual folder, I'm already
ASK there. ;-)

I guess it depends on the language pack you use. I see on my PC
Locate Original and on my laptop and with Voyager I see Follow.
All use version 3.86.03.

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Meyns  everyone else,

on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:10 you (Peter Meyns) wrote:

 I guess it depends on the language pack you use. I see on my PC
 Locate Original and on my laptop and with Voyager I see Follow.
 All use version 3.86.03.

Interesting. I'm using an english Windows XP and english TB.

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander,

 The context menu item Locate Original (available when you right
 click a message in a virtual folder) has been renamed to Follow in
 this version.

 Not here, it still shows as 'Locate original'.

 See subject. You are using 3.86.02 according to your signature...


You are right, I clicked on the wrong TB icon.

But see my sig now, and I still see 'Locate original'.

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Alexander,

on Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:25:56 +0200GMT, you wrote:

ASK Hello Peter Meyns  everyone else,

ASK on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:10 you (Peter Meyns) wrote:

 I guess it depends on the language pack you use. I see on my PC
 Locate Original and on my laptop and with Voyager I see Follow.
 All use version 3.86.03.

ASK Interesting. I'm using an english Windows XP and english TB.

Here it is German Windows. XP on the PC and 2K on the notebook. I
don't think that the OS language matters. I think it's RIT's language
pack which comes along with every MSI of the Pro version. IIRQ I ran
the new installation on the PC and just replaced thebat.exe on the
laptop. So, installing the latest language pack here, would probably
result in Locate Original. I'm not sure though, if this applies to
Voyager too.

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The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA -translated in parts

2006-10-18 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Good evening dear list members,


the recipient of a split mail gets a partly translated text reading
this is Nachrichtenteil 2 of 16 parts
announcing the transmission of several split mails to arrive, which
should be completely in German.

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Meyns  everyone else,

on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:48 you (Peter Meyns) wrote:

ASK Interesting. I'm using an english Windows XP and english TB.

 Here it is German Windows. XP on the PC and 2K on the notebook. I
 don't think that the OS language matters. I think it's RIT's language
 pack which comes along with every MSI of the Pro version. IIRQ I ran
 the new installation on the PC and just replaced thebat.exe on the
 laptop. So, installing the latest language pack here, would probably
 result in Locate Original. I'm not sure though, if this applies to
 Voyager too.

I just checked... Control Panel / Add or Remove Programs shows TB
installed as 3.85.03 which is the MSI of the latest stable release. I
don't even have the int'l pack installed, always deselected it (the
built-in english interface is enough for me).

Whats really interesting #1 - I don't see the TB installation in the
control panel when I open it with my normal (limited user) work account.
Only when I log in as admin I can see TB in the list of installed
programs.

Whats really interesting #2 - I just started TB in the admin account (by
simply clicking Start / E-Mail, the XP shortcut to the default mail
program) and it loads version 3.0.2.10! I do have that version as
thebat30210.exe in my program files folder, but how does XP find this
version, especially since the installed MSI is 3.85.03?

I'm puzzled!

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA -translated in parts

2006-10-18 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Charlene Ferrara wrote on 19/10/2006 at 04:52:34 +1100 
subject The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA -translated in parts :

 the recipient of a split mail gets a partly translated text reading
 this is Nachrichtenteil 2 of 16 parts
 announcing the transmission of several split mails to arrive, which
 should be completely in German.

This text is actually not send to the recipient, but displayed only
by TheBat. Other eMail-clients will show this message fragments
differently. Just have a look into the message source code... or
switch your language to french and display the message again...

Did you already talk to Thomas Wölk about this translation issue?

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA -translated in parts

2006-10-18 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Hendrik Oesterlin,

Thursday, October 19, 2006 
you let us know -possibly edited- :

 This text is actually not send to the recipient, but displayed only
 by TheBat. Other eMail-clients will show this message fragments
 differently. Just have a look into the message source code... or
 switch your language to french and display the message again...
One of my mailpals asked me if TB was mixing up languages and included
the line of text in her reply. It may be a thing worth having a second
look, concerning the translation.



 Did you already talk to Thomas Wölk about this translation issue?
Not yet. Doe she read this list?


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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/18/2006  4:38 PM

Hi Alexander,

On 10/18/2006 Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK Hello MAU  everyone else,

ASK on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:04 you (MAU) wrote:

 The context menu item Locate Original (available when you right
 click a message in a virtual folder) has been renamed to Follow in
 this version.

 Not here, it still shows as 'Locate original'.

ASK See subject. You are using 3.86.02 according to your signature...

Locate is used here.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/18/2006  4:47 PM

Hi Alexander,

On 10/18/2006 Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK Whats really interesting #1 - I don't see the TB installation in the
ASK control panel when I open it with my normal (limited user) work account.
ASK Only when I log in as admin I can see TB in the list of installed
ASK programs.

ASK Whats really interesting #2 - I just started TB in the admin account (by
ASK simply clicking Start / E-Mail, the XP shortcut to the default mail
ASK program) and it loads version 3.0.2.10! I do have that version as
ASK thebat30210.exe in my program files folder, but how does XP find this
ASK version, especially since the installed MSI is 3.85.03?

ASK I'm puzzled!

I get irritated when I have multiple users wanting their own desktop,
etc. but share a single email account. I have not found a way to
install TB so that it is available to selected, or all, users on a
given machine. I think we should have an installation option to make
it available to all users when desired as Opera, Irfanview and other
good programs.

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA -translated in parts

2006-10-18 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Charlene Ferrara,

Wednesday, October 18, 2006 
you let us know -possibly edited- :
 Not yet. Doe she read this list?
Thomas is a HE, AAARGH!
Sorry, Thomas!

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Paul Van Noord  everyone else,

on 18-Okt-2006 at 22:50 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote:

 I get irritated when I have multiple users wanting their own desktop,
 etc. but share a single email account.

Thats not a problem here. My admin account and my normal work account
don't share the same mail data, in fact the admin account doesn't even
have/use any mail account. I treat my user account as my personal
account and keep the admin account free from any personalisation (other
than those that help me do administrative tasks).

 I have not found a way to install TB so that it is available to
 selected, or all, users on a given machine. I think we should have an
 installation option to make it available to all users when desired as
 Opera, Irfanview and other good programs.

Well, TB did install its shortcuts in the Start menu alright, but I was
surprised to not find TB in the list of installed programs. I know the
feature you're mentioning with regards to the start menu and desktop
shortcuts etc., but I didn't know that items in the control panel/arp
sections could be hidden from one user while being visible to others.

Is this maybe a bug in the TB MSI installation, or a feature?

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MAU  everyone else,

on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:28 you (MAU) wrote:

 But see my sig now, and I still see 'Locate original'.

As Peter Meyns pointed out, it may have to do with installed languages
aka the int'l pack which is part of the professional version. Are you
using these? I'm using TB without extra language files.

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Paul Van Noord  everyone else,

on 18-Okt-2006 at 22:38 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote:

 Locate is used here.

Aw crap, my mistake. I must've started 3.0.2.10 in my admin account
recently and set the associations to this old version accidentally.

SORRY for the confusion, its all as it should be (locate original).

Funny thing is, I didn't even notice the difference between the two
versions... ;-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander,

 But see my sig now, and I still see 'Locate original'.

 As Peter Meyns pointed out, it may have to do with installed languages
 aka the int'l pack which is part of the professional version. Are you
 using these? I'm using TB without extra language files.

No I don't use Int pack either.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/18/2006  8:39 PM

Hi Alexander,

ASK Is this maybe a bug in the TB MSI installation, or a feature?

I guess it could be either depending on which side of the issue you
stand. Having the option to choose the installation behavior would be
an elegant resolution.

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