Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hi Maxim, On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, at 20:38:42 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:38 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)' [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not functional Tnis is still not quite right. See image: -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows 7.6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 attachment: sortorder.png Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: wrong time zone offset fix
Hi Maxim, On Tue, 5 Apr 2011, at 20:01:47 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:01 where I live) you wrote about: 'wrong time zone offset fix' [-] The Bat! version 5 did incorrectly displayed message time (there were an incorrect time zone diff applied) created/received by v4 and before (BETA ISSUE). Please do not rollback from v5 to v4 since in this case messages will be again with time incorrectly offset by time zone diff. Does this also fix the issue that when I import messages with daylight saving on a different creation time is shown that when I import the messages with daylight saving off ? For example I import with Daylight Saving off, and Created shows 16:00 Daylight saving is enabled and Created still shows 16:00 I import the same message again In the new message Created is shown as 17:00 -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 5.0.8 on Windows 7.6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Some experiences with TB 5 RC4
Title: Some experiences with TB 5 RC4 Hello, I installed TB 5 today and this are my first experiences: I see a lot of improvements. Especially the URL manager. Congratulation with the progress made. I have tried a couple of other email clients over the last year, but nothing beats TheBat ! Here are some comments on RC4 - My message list tabs have disappeared (Unread, Attachments, Flagged etc) I had to manually recreate them. - My views modes were not working as before. The link between some of my folders and their view modes was gone. I had to reset them. - To set the viewmodes for a group of folder, I pressed the 'Used by' button. This brings up a dialog that is not resizable. As far as I can see this is the same dialog as the 'Watch' dialog on the virtual folder properties window (with exception of the viewmode column in the left control) . Both dialogs should be resizable to make them easier to work with with a large messagebase ( 500 Folders, 350.000 messages, about 10Gb disk space) - The 'Use by' and 'Watch' dialog have a select all and deselect all button. I am missing the options that I have in the message finder (like 'Select current account', 'Select including subfolders' etc) I am also missing these - It would be nice if the URL manager had an option to only display the URLs from the current selected message. - There seems to be a problem in the URL manager when sorting my subject. Some links are shown with the wrong subject. I have seen examples where images were listed under the wrong subject. -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 5.0.4 RC/4 on Windows 7.6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some experiences with TB 5 RC4
Hi Marek, On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, at 13:18:37 [GMT +0200] (which was 13:18 where I live) you wrote about: 'Some experiences with TB 5 RC4' - There seems to be a problem in the URL manager when sorting my subject. Some links are shown with the wrong subject. I have seen examples where images were listed under the wrong subject. did not see this before, some examples will be useful I had an example in the message, but it made the message too big. Will send you an example in a PM. -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 5.0.4 RC/4 on Windows 7.6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Discussion : Image Download manager usage on daily basis
Hi Marek, On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, at 12:37:13 [GMT +0100] (which was 12:37 where I live) you wrote about: 'Discussion : Image Download manager usage on daily basis' I am trying to Image Download Manager on regular daily basis and have many observations: 1) I have mode Deny unknown enabled, so TB adds every unknown URL to list, I have yellow icon with question mark displayed almost permanently and I must tell You, deleting/downloading urls or creating rules takes much time... So I am waiting for instant addition of email/domain address of sender like it is in MS Outlook for example or if is contact in AB, enable this in contact from Image Download Button context menu. 2) As a must-have feature I see option in Folder properties and in AB contact properties, where I Allow/Deny images from this folder/contact and new rule will be created automatically, because creating such rule is very tedious (there are bugs preventing this, but they should be already fixed in upcoming betaversion as I see in BT). 3) creating Folder source rule is strange, because folder is added without whole path, only as a standalone name, so how IDM knows, which folder in which account is it? 4) as a second must-have feature I see pre-defined rule for blocking tracing URLs, I must create deny rule for every tracing URL, it should be placed on top of the list of rules I second this. It would also be nice to have a simple option to allow all images in the current message, like many other products have. -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 5.0.0.141 BETA on Windows 7.6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA
Hi Maxim, On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, at 23:00:40 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:00 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA' What's new in 5.0.0.118 since 5.0.0.117: [*] Better (proper) way of working with TCP/IP sockets [-] When The Bat! was working with TCP/IP sockets, it did ignore errors of the WSAEnumNetworkEvents() Win32 API call [-] When the users pressed Alt+F4 when The Bat! have just started and showed the Unregistered window, there were an Access Violation error [*] The Bat! now displays all error, warning and information messages using Windows, so you can Ctrl+C to copy text from it, ect. Previously, some messages were displayed using The Bat! itself, while the other were displayed using Windows, that was somewhat inconsistent. [*] Faster loading of windows [+] Added 133 new strings for translation. These strings were previously untranslatable (English-only) I am seeing a problem that sometimes (not always) after moving a message to a new folder it is automatically marked as read. This happens both when the message is moved using the Sorting office and also when it is moved from the context menu. The account properties for automatically marking a message as read are both switched off. Another problem that I see if that the language context menu in the statusbar of the message editor is not working. Switching a language from the top menu works fine. Are others seeing this too ? -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 5.0.0.118 BETA on Windows 7.6.1.7600 (x64) Current beta is 5.0.0.118 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Did I miss the funeral?
Hi Marek, On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, at 08:58:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 8:58 where I live) you wrote about: 'Did I miss the funeral?' we do not know what other enhancements will be surely available in next release, this is question to Ritlabs. BTW I do not know, what You think about HTML support, what are You missing in version 4? An easy way to show all images in the current email (something like Outlook has, and NO i do not want to switch to Outlook...). Now I have to use the URL manager and try to find which URL in the long list belongs to the current message. Not very intuitive... -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7.6.1.7600 Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.19
Hi Maxim, On Fri, 8 Jan 2010, at 01:10:59 [GMT +0200] (which was 0:10 where I live) you wrote about: '4.2.19' What's new in 4.2.19 since 4.2.18: [*] Improved speed of handling folder names. This may be noticeable on very slow computers with very large folder trees, otherwise the effect is negligible. But this can caouse data loss unless you copy your message base prior to installing this ALPHA version. The folder tree loads _very_ quickly. Getting the message counters is somewhat faster than in previous versions. Good work ! -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.2.19.2 ALPHA on Windows 7.6.1.7600 Current beta is 4.2.19.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.2.7.1
Hi Maxim, On Sun, 5 Jul 2009, at 23:27:31 [GMT +0300] (which was 22:27 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 4.2.7.1' The Bat! 4.2.7.1 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4271.rar What's new in 4.2.7.1 since 4.2.6: [*] Sorting by gender in Pick e-mail addresses dialog [-] Some captions or controls didn't fit the windows [+] Macros that accept date format as the first parameter now can also accept the language as the second parameter. If the language is specified, the Windows formatting is using.The language can be specified for the following date macros: %DATE, %ODATE, %ORcvDate; the date is formatted according to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd317787(VS.85).aspx . Additionally, when formatting a date, you can use L format specifier to get DATE_LONGDATE. For specifying language in time formatting, you can use the following macros: %Time, %TimeLong, %OTime, %OTimeLong, %ORcvTime, %ORcvTimeLong, according to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd318130(VS.85).aspx [-] The Bat! Didn't understand long Generic top-level domains like .info, .name, .aero, .asia, .coop, .jobs, .mobi, .museum, .travel, .arpa and .nato. [-] Fixed a few grammar errors in Postponed Sending Up and Running. -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.2.7.1 on Windows Vista.6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.2.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat Icon and Windows 7
Hi Marek, On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, at 19:29:05 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:29 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat Icon and Windows 7' as I understand you expect taskbar icon to be animated. I am not sure if it is good idea. I haven't seen other icon except explorer (progress bar during copying) animated. For me animation of trayicon is enough. And in my case it is working as on older systems. I am on original Win7 RC 7100 from technet with TB! Prof 4.2.1.1 previously and 4.2.4 now . And see new mail arriving via animation of tray icon. Screenshot attached. Task manager is animated too. It shows the processor load. -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.2.4 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Illegal characters in folder names
Hi Neal, On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, at 04:11:43 [GMT -0900] (which was 14:11 where I live) you wrote about: 'Illegal characters in folder names' As you may have read in some of my recent posts, last night I downloaded and installed a plugin for RSS Feeds (which works great, BTW). ... I don't know if this 'contradiction' can be considered a bug, or not. But, meanwhile, can any of you think of a way I could use to set the number of days to keep messages in this type of folders? Do we know who the plug-in's author is, or if the source is available? I've misplaced my copy of TB's plug-in design specs. If we had these, we could ad a feature to it - with the author's permission of course. This has nothing to do with the plug-in. The plug-in simply produces a message with some special header fields. See below for an example. The macro system uses the header fields to build a folder name, and that folder name is not 'folder properties dialog' compliant. -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.1.9.2 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 --- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:39:08 +0100 To: BAT-MAIL Newsticker List-Archive: http://bat-mail.de.vu/ Comments: Hier findet ihr alles rund um TheBat!. Wichtige Links, Mail-Server Adressen fuer POP3 und IMAP-Konten von AOL bis T-Online, Makro-PlugIns, AntiSpam-PlugIns, die Original GLYPHs von RITLabs, meine alternativen GLYPHs, nuetzliche Tools, alle SplashScreens aus den Sonder-Editionen und aus aelteren Versionen, Tutorials als PDF-Dokument und natuerlich aktuelle Neuigkeiten was TheBat! betrifft. X-outline-title: Bat Mail X-parent-outline-title: News X-parent-outline-text: News Subject: Neuer Splashscreen in TheBat! v4.0.0.20 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--=NEXT_PART =NEXT_PART Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit a href=http://thebat.zetema.de/splash.html;Neuer Splashscreen in TheBat! v4.0.0.20/a hrbr Mit der aktuellen Beta Version v4.0.0.20 erhielt TheBat! nun auch einen neuen Splashscreen. =NEXT_PART-- --- Current beta is 4.1.9.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Pasting Excel tables in HTML Editor
I selected and copied a Range in Excel today and tried to paste it in the HTML editor but that fails to work. Doing the same in both Plain Text Editor works, but of course then the formatting is gone When I paste the contents of the clipboard in Word first, and then select and copy it again I can paste the data in the HTML editor (with the formatting) I am using Word/Excel 2007 Can anyone else confirm this ? Shouldn't this be working ? -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.1.9 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Image Request
I have a couple of relatively simple requests (I think): First I would like to have an option to allow all images of the current selected mail to be loaded. Right now I will have to look through the URL manager and try to figure out which entry in the list of 'Unresolved' belongs to the current message. It would also help if the images from the current message were highlighted. Note that the images for one message may come from different sources The second question : It would be nice in the URL manager to have the ability to sort and/or search the URLs on the Blocked/Allowed tab. Right now it is not so easy to locate entries on these tabs. Finally I would like the ability to add lines to the URL manager manually and the ability to use regular expressions or wild cards. For example: at this moment I have entries like: http://a.somedomain.com http://b.somedomain.com http://d.somedomain.com I would like to setup a line like: http://*.somedomain.com (Wildcard) or http://.*\.somedomain\.com (Regular Expression) -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB Slow shutdown speed
With the steady stream of new build, I have to shutdown TB almost everyday to try the new builds (I usually keep it running 24/7). And now I have noticed that shutting down TB takes quite long. There was an issue before (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6831). This issue was closed last march, but I have reopened it. Some statistics: 5 seconds until UI disappears 180 seconds (3 minutes !) until program disappears from memory almost no processor/network activity in the meantime Windows Vista Business 64, SP1, 8 Gb Intel Core Duo 6400 2.14 GHz TB Memory usage 35 Mb (Peak 47 Mb) Message Base: 4 accounts 335.000 messages 15 virtual folders Message base 4 Gb, in 52 directories located on Gigabit LAN. Is anyone else seeing this too ? -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.1.6
Hi Maxim, On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, at 20:29:19 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:29 where I live) you wrote about: '4.1.1.6' [-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the start Working now. Thanks for the quick fix. -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: viewing HTML email glitch
Hi Jim, On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, at 12:50:38 [GMT -0500] (which was 18:50 where I live) you wrote about: 'viewing HTML email glitch' For the past few versions of TB (including 4.1.1.4), I will be reading through a longer HTML email (say a newsletter), and after about 2 seconds, TB will automatically scroll the email back to the top. This seems to have gotten better in the last version of TB (only doing it once) whereas prior versions would do it non-stop. It seems to happen more in emails that have a lot of graphics. Could TB be re-loading the page as new graphics are loaded causing this? It is really a pain to try to read an email when it keeps going back to the top. Has anyone else seen this? Confirmed, and annoying indeed. -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.1.1.3 (RC1) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow shutdown speed is back again...
I just noticed, when I tried to install the latest beta on my machine, that the slow shutdown times for Tb are back again. It takes literally minutes for TB to disappear from memory (and to release the EXE file) after the last 'maintenance screen' in the shutdown cycle has been hidden. I am not sure in which version this was reintroduced, but I would not be surprised if this is somehow linked to the new index format. One difference with the previous slow shutdowns, is that Tb allows you to start a new copy of the program before the old program is removed from memory. MessageBase: 4 accounts 472 folders 15 virtual folders 300 thousand messages This also happens when starting Tb and shutting it down immediately (without retrieving any messages) -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.34.12 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.34.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.34.11
Hi Maxim, On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, at 18:35:21 [GMT +0300] (which was 17:35 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.34.11' What's new in 4.0.34.11 since 4.0.34.8: [!] New message base index for support message base files larger than 2G bytes and possibility to have multiple user flags [-] Multi-user environment was broken [-] The Bat! won't use SOCKS proxy for the following host names: localhost, 127.0.0.1, ::1 [*] Removed the NTLM authentication (beta issue) [-] SOCKS5 authentication didn't work Up and running. Can the 'old' messages.tbi files be deleted after the update? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.34.11 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.34.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tabs, Urgent Trouble
Hi Jens, On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, at 20:23:09 [GMT +0200] (which was 20:23 where I live) you wrote about: 'Tabs, Urgent Trouble' I can not see the Mails in the The Bat! Folder any more, i see them in the Subfolders, but the Count and the View in der Parent Folder which is the Common Folder is gone. I have seen something similar: disappearing mails. In my case I had changed some of the properties of a folder (email address and company name) and after doing that all mail files in that folder and its subfolders were gone... Thank god for backups ! Something strange that I also noticed: I have a virtual folder in a subtree: Account\Folder1\Folder2\VirtualFolder1 But I also found a folder names VirtualFolder1 at the Account Level ? Something seems to be playing with folders and files in a strange way... -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.34 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.34.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unread tab shows some read folders
Hi MAU, On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, at 12:08:59 [GMT +0200] (which was 12:08 where I live) you wrote about: 'Unread tab shows some read folders' Upon switching to the Unread tab, all folders in which I had already read the messages, were listed. Folders in which there were no unread messages to begin with, were not shown. This is as if the Unread tab had been active from the beginning. Switching to the All tab and then back to the Unread tab solved the problem. Yes, that is exactly the behaviour I have seen. So do I, but I can live with that... -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.28.4 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.28.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.28.4
Hi Stefan, On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, at 15:31:32 [GMT +0300] (which was 14:31 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.28.4' [*] (Beta) more cosmetic fixes on Unread Folders Tab and positioning selection in the Folders Tree Yes, it is definitely better now. AFAICS it works just like the unread tab of the message list now. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.28.4 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.28.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.28.3
Hi Stefan, On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, at 19:27:38 [GMT +0300] (which was 18:27 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.28.3' [*] (#0006632) Folders with all messages read should not change their position in the list of the unread Folders tab [before moving to the next folder] Looks ok now. Although the behavior is still different from the behavior on the unread tab in the messagelist: - when you start with multiple folders and mark all messages in one of the folders as read, it remains in the original position: ok - if you navigate to another folder (for example using smartspace or Ctrl-Right arrow) and mark all the messages in that folder as read then the second folder stays visible on its correct position, but the first folder disappears from the list. That is not what I would expect. In the Unread tab of the message list all messages stay visible until you leave the folder. I would expect similar behavior for the Unread tab of the Folder Tree. So all folders with unread messages should stay visible until you navigate to a new tab, or until a 'Get New Mail' command is executed. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.28.3 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.28.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MSI
Hi Maxim, On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, at 20:52:39 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:52 where I live) you wrote about: 'MSI' Please also check the MSI files: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-28.msi Up and Running. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.28.1 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.28.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.28.1
Hi DVM, On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, at 21:03:39 [GMT -0500] (which was 4:03 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.28.1' There is one showstopper which has been reported many times before over the past 7 months, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 (0006632: Impossible to use folder list sort order from 'All' on 'Unread' tab). With its present behavior, the Unread folder view is difficult and awkward to use. Whenever the last unread message in a folder is opened, that folder jumps to the bottom of the list, forcing the user to scroll upward through the entire list in order to find his place. Please restore the old behavior, in which the folder remains in the same place, but its name is unbolded. That simple change would make the Unread view far more useful and user-friendly than the present implementation. Cannot confirm this. Click on the header of the folderlist to undo the sorting (until the arrows disappear). -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.28.1 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.28.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.28.1
Hi DVM, On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, at 06:03:36 [GMT -0500] (which was 13:03 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.28.1' Cannot confirm this. Click on the header of the folderlist to undo the sorting (until the arrows disappear). Please go re-read the Bug Report at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 --- specifically, the numerous comments which have been left by others since you initially made the report. I am by no means the only tester who has been repeatedly bringing this bug to the programmers' attention. Ok. Now I see what you mean. I am using the smartspace feature to mark messages as read. When you use that and mark the last message in a folder as read, then the focus goes to the correct next folder in the list, even though the folder with no unread messages goes to the bottom of the list. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.28.1 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.28.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [4.0.26.6] Hunspell tab still grey
Hi Marek, On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, at 08:35:35 [GMT +0200] (which was 8:35 where I live) you wrote about: ' Hunspell tab still grey' After downloading and installing this I checked the Spelling and noticed that under Options I now have three tabs: SSCE CSAPI Hunspell But the Hunspell tab is still grey. because Hunspell does not allow any additional setting AFAIK So why is there a Tab then? Or why isn't the tab empty? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.26.6 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.26.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New feature
Hi Stefan, On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, at 20:24:26 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:24 where I live) you wrote about: 'New feature' Looks interesting and does not look like a stretch from some of TB's capabilities. But IMAP first. :) Actually, Address History implements many of those functions. And yes, IMAP first :-) I suggest you have a closer look at Xonbi before comparing it with Address History. There are more differences than similarities. For example: Xonbi sits beside your message. You do not have to switch from a folder tree to another tree and back. Xonbi also automatically follows the current message: it automatically displays the history for the sender of the current message. It also shows what they call 'network', iow: a list of to and cc addresses from recent emails from the person, and much more. Please understand me: It is not that I am not happy with TB, but adding something like this to the product seems a logical thing to me. Much more logical than for example a feature as 'mail chat' -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.24.25 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.24.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New feature
I recently saw an Outlook add-in that I really liked. It is called 'xobni' (inbox reversed) and what it does is analyze your message base and display some information from the sender for the current selected mail message. This includes: - That persons network (recent addressees as seen in the message base) - phone number (when found in either the contacts list or a message footer) - recent messages - recent attachments - time of day (in the form of a small bargraph) that the sender usually writes messages - it (optionally) checks for the existence of a Linked In account for the sender and displays some of that profile info, including the senders picture when available. Has anyone else seen this, and would you like to see something like that in TheBat ? http://www.xobni.com/learnmore/ -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.24.25 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.24.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.23
Hi Maxim, On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, at 21:12:48 [GMT +0300] (which was 20:12 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.24.23' What's new in 4.0.24.23 since 4.0.24.22: [-] (#0007073) Attachments were open twice [-] (#0006593) Some menu commands and buttons got disabled after viewing messages using a preview pane tab [+] Spell Checker Check from cursor [*] Expired certificates are now not stored to the newly created Root CA address book. [-] (#0007020) the Create Formatted Message filter action was not using the Mark as Read and the attachment options [-] (#0006963) Dragging and dropping text files onto HTML editor resulted in pasting contents of those files instead of attaching the files Up and running ! -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.24.23 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI
Hi Maxim, On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, at 21:56:11 [GMT +0300] (which was 20:56 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI' This is the Windows Installer service that warns the user that The Bat! installation cannot update a component because a program is running. We have no control over it. The empty captions of radio buttons is a bug. Could you please report the problem of empty captions to the bugtracking server? Thank you in advance. Reported on March 7, 2008: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6900 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.24 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI
Hi Gunivortus, On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, at 12:18:35 [GMT +0200] (which was 12:18 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI' Why is that about the camera driver in the TB install? I have reported this a couple of times already (but without result obviously...) I'm using the Logitech QuickCam 9000 Pro. Which is yours? Logitec QuickCam Communicator STX. But I don't think the webcam software is the biggest problem. The dialog with the radio buttons without text is. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.24 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI
Hi Gunivortus, On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, at 08:52:28 [GMT +0200] (which was 8:52 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI' this last and a few previous versions there's when installing through the msi file everytime a question that my webcamera driver needs to be changed. Below there there are two buttons, the above is checked. But there's no text there what those buttons mean. Because I thought the above button might mean 'Yes' and the below 'No, I check the last one and then click okay. The installaton then is brought to a normal end. When I click 'Cancel', the whole installation is cancelled. Why is that about the camera driver in the TB install? I have reported this a couple of times already (but without result obviously...) -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.22.1 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI
Hi Stefan, On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, at 13:29:01 [GMT +0300] (which was 12:29 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 4.0.24 MSI' GG Why is that about the camera driver in the TB install? I suspect that the webcam software just waits when you run MS Installer and decides it's time to update. You both should report it to Logitech... Like I said: the Webcam question is not a big deal. The problem is the dialog that complains that TheBat is running but doesn't show the text on the radio buttons (probably 'Kill Process' and 'Retry'). -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.24 on Windows Vista.6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.16.2
Hi Maxim, On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, at 01:04:46 [GMT +0200] (which was 0:04 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.16.2' https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-16-2.msi The installer still displays a dialog with no radio button descriptions when TheBat is running (I uploaded an image to issue https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6900) Btw: TB 4.0.16 took over 10 minutes to shutdown ( issue https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6831). This was after having TB running for a couple of days. TB 4.0.16.2 seems to shutdown quick fast, but I need a couple of days to tell you if issue 6831 is fixed or not. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.16.2 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.16.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.16.1
Hi Maxim, On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, at 16:17:09 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:17 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.16.1' https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-16.msi When TheBat is running during installation the installer shows a dialog with two radio buttons without description. I have reported this on TBBETA for a couple of MSI builds (4.0.0.22, 4.0.11, 4.0.14) and this still happens. I added a BT issue for this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6900 This is especially irritating, since TheBat takes AGES on my machine to shutdown (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6831) I am sorry, but I am getting kind of frustrated because of the fact this last issue seems to be ignored by the devteam. I did not even get a conformation for the issue... -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.16.1 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.16.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.16.1
Hi Hendrik, On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, at 15:22:58 [GMT +1100] (which was 5:22 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.16.1' At my PC it takes quite a while, but not AGES. Maybe it will be necessary to specify the duration in Seconds and not in an such subjective unit. Even in the bugtrack I did not see real durations in Seconds. AGES was between 2.5 and 3 minutes the last time I checked. ( I walked away from my machine to get a cup of coffee, so I am not exactly sure). Even the OS doesn't take that long. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.16.1 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.16.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.8
Hi MAU, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, at 19:20:59 [GMT +0100] (which was 19:20 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.14.8' Yes, but the problem now is that new Colour groups created do NOT appear in 'Configure Folder Sets' and, therefore, a tab cannot be created for them.. Any confirmation? Confirmed. I created a new CG and assigned it to a folder. The CG is not visible in the Configure Tab dialog. I'd rather see the 'deleted' colour groups like we did in the last build.. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.14.8 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.8
Hi Marek, On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, at 20:31:04 [GMT +0100] (which was 20:31 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.14.8' confirm, restart is needed to have newly created CG in Configuration dialog. This is a different issue, create a new BT entry please. Yes, but a restart takes ages (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6831 ) on my system -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.14.8 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folder Tabs configuration dialog shows Old colour group names
I noticed the following (I think I have reported it before but the problem is still there): The Folder Tabs configuration dialog shows Old colour group names (that are no longer available from the Colour Group dialog). The 'Delete' button is not enabled, so they can not be removed. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6859 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.14.7 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving multiple messages to anoher folder does not refresh the original folder
I found the following problem: When I select multiple messages in a folder and move them to a new folder (by dragging them or through the Ctrl-V dialog, then the messages are moved but the original folder is not always refreshed, so it appears if the operation was not successful. This does not always happen, but so far I have seen it when: - multiple messages are moved - using either drag to folder in the Account tree and also using the Move Message dialog I think this only happens when the target folder is watched by some virtual folders and when a filter condition in one of the folder is affected by one or more of the messages that are being moved. Did anyone else see this ? Please support at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6858 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.14.7 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi Maxim, On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, at 00:48:00 [GMT +0200] (which was 23:48 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.14' We would be thankful if you test the MSI files as well: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-14.msi The installer _still_ displays the useless radio buttons without captions when TB is running -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.12.2 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.11
Hi Maxim, On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, at 01:27:04 [GMT +0200] (which was 0:27 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.11' http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-11.msi This MSI Still shows the dialog with radion buttons without text. I figured out that the first button means 'Show down TheBat'. That fails however (a timeout) becauser TheBat stll taks ages to shutdown on my machines. I reported before that it seems to be writing msgs.dump files than, even though I have the option 'save state between sessions' switched off for all my virtual folders. Can someone from the devteam _PLEASE_ explain me why this gets saved and why shutting down takes so long. This is really annoying. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.11 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.20
Hi Marck, On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, at 23:52:58 [GMT +] (which was 0:52 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.0.20' MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_4-0-0-20-beta.msi I got the attached screen during the install process. I have a similar screen to. One for TheBat and another for WebCam software that is running on my machine. I have no idea what the radion buttons mean And why does TheBat want to close my webcam software ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0 news
Hi Stefan, On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, at 01:04:19 [GMT +0200] (which was 0:04 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0 news' Well, it happened many times before, so it won't be a big surprise, but... we are going to release 4.0 on February, 7th. It was the last date set for this release, so we must keep with it. We tried to remove all screaming problems before the X day, so hopefully it won't be too buggy. If you have complete showstoppers, please use this one day that left, so we can try to fix it. The good news (as usually) - we are not going to stop after the release, nobody goes off to holidays or anything like that, so the new Beta cycle starts immediately after the release (actually, the current one will just continue), so we will make a better 4.0.x release before we go to 4.1.x. I am getting an AV (using MicroEdit)when I press the Enter key at the end of a quoted line: -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 int_1.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi Ian, On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, at 07:59:26 [GMT +1100] (which was 21:59 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.0.22 Release Candidate' - On Thursday, February 7, 2008, 7:10:44 AM, you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote: MM The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at... Trying to insert a line break in quoted text still results in this AV. --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 007AAF66 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0006. --- OK --- Confirmed (with MicroEd, not with Windows editor) -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.22 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi Maxim, On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, at 22:10:44 [GMT +0200] (which was 21:10 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.0.22 Release Candidate' http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi This MSI still shows two radio buttons without text when TheBat is still running. I think it would be a good idea to fix that before you release it. This doesn't look very professional. By the way: I had TB closed, but it still takes VERY long to shut down I have reported that issue a while ago, but see no improvement. I checked what TB is doing, and it seems to be writing msgs.dump for all virtual folders, even though I have not checked the 'save state between sessions' option. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.22 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.18
Hi Stuart, On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, at 09:49:29 [GMT -0600] (which was 16:49 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.0.18' ST Alternatively, it's possible to hold the Shift key for character ST selection... This is not intuitive though. I can't think of another program that won't let you select less than a whole word. Is there a reason not to allow it? I agree. I have already accidentally removed whole words in a message where I wanted to remove certain incorrect keystrokes... -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Rendering is incorrect
I see problems when rendering HTML messages. I have posted an issue about that on BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6669 Does anyone else see this ? For example see the attached image I know this was correct and it was somehow broken in one of the last builds. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 attachment: preview.jpg Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Marek, On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, at 14:01:35 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:01 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' I see problems when rendering HTML messages. I have posted an issue about that on BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6669 Does anyone else see this ? For example see the attached image I know this was correct and it was somehow broken in one of the last builds. not confirmed, screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 My screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 too. If I go to the folder where the message is located I still see the strange layout. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Stuart, On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, at 08:25:35 [GMT -0600] (which was 15:25 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' My screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 too. If I go to the folder where the message is located I still see the strange layout. Is it possible you have disallowed some of the links in the URL manager? I checkd and that is not the case. It also doesn't explain why I am seeing parts of the html body as literal text. I would expect missing images in that case. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Marek, On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, at 14:01:35 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:01 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' I see problems when rendering HTML messages. I have posted an issue about that on BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6669 Does anyone else see this ? For example see the attached image I know this was correct and it was somehow broken in one of the last builds. not confirmed, screenshot is from 4.0.0.11 Ok I found the problem: If you enable 'Use smileys in HTML Viewer' the image is corrupted. If you disable this option the image looks fine. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Rendering is incorrect
Hi Konrad, On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, at 22:22:07 [GMT +0100] (which was 22:22 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Rendering is incorrect' This is a problem with Your txt2html.regexps file (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Could You send to me this file? I can find and correct errors. Yes, that is it. I have renamed the file and now everything works as expected. Thanks for this. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: confirming Vista issues
Hi Marek, On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, at 09:03:35 [GMT +0100] (which was 9:03 where I live) you wrote about: 'confirming Vista issues' can I ask You users with Vista to confirm these reports please? Vista: all options for associations are disabled, but button Associate now stays enabled https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6639 Confirmed. I think you need elevated rights to set these on Vista. I would prefer it they enabled the options and put a shield on the button to indicate that you need elevated rights (and would handle the elevation of course). Date/Time section in Preferences dialog has empty fields after installation on Vista https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6608 Confirmed Protection section in Preferences dialog has empty fields after installation on Vista https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6607 NOT confirmed. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.8 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shutting down TB takes very long
Hi MAU, On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, at 11:14:13 [GMT +0100] (which was 11:14 where I live) you wrote about: 'Shutting down TB takes very long' I noticed that after shutting down TB it takes ages before the program really disappear from memory (I used taskmanager to check for this). Do you have your folders set up to purge and compress on exit? Yes, on the inbox, outbox, Sent Mail and deleted folders (The first three are empty on exit because I use rules to filter incoming and sent messages out of them to 'Known' and 'Unknown' folders) and I can see that happen (progress bars). That takes about 20 seconds. The rest of the time (2 minutes 25 seconds) TB runs silently in the background. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.8 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shutting down TB takes very long
Hi Vili, On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, at 10:55:05 [GMT -0500] (which was 16:55 where I live) you wrote about: 'Shutting down TB takes very long' Confirmed. If TB is used extensively and running for a while, it takes forever to shut down. Idea: the developers should make a debug version, that would make a time log, that would help to find out the reason... Yes, that is what I would do too (yes, I develop software too). -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.8 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: HTML use
Hi Marck, On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, at 07:48:18 [GMT +] (which was 8:48 where I live) you wrote about: 'Mod: HTML use' HTML causes the main message body to be MIME encapsulated and that in turn pushes the list message footer into a part.txt attachment. So does PGP signing, which you use in your messages... -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shutting down TB takes very long
With the new alpha (beta) cycle going on I have to restart TB every now and then to install a new build (I normally keep it running 24*7). I noticed that after shutting down TB it takes ages before the program really disappear from memory (I used taskmanager to check for this). I just timed it and it took 2 minutes and 45 seconds to finish. I think it is creating msgs.dump files for my virtual folders. Am I the only one seeing this? Some statistics for my situation: - 3 Accounts - 478 folders - 4 Gb disk space used by the message base - 29 virtual folders - 310 thousand messages - Most virtual folders monitor only one folder (and filter on mail from/to a certain address) - All virtual folders have the 'store state between sessions' flag unchecked. I saw the following memory usage When shutdown begins: Working Set: 48 Mb, Peak 74 Mb At the end of the shutdown process: Working Set: 75 Mb, Peak 75 Mb I also noticed that even though I have virtual folders deep in the hierarchy like (Account\Folder\SubFolder\*VF*) TB creates a folder on disk directly under the account to store the file msgs.dump (Account\VF) I finaly found a folder 'cache' in my messagebase folder with what looks like images used in HTML mails. Is this ever cleared ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.8 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.6: Unread tab
Hi Thomas, On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, at 08:31:10 [GMT +0700] (which was 2:31 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.0.6: Unread tab' Wish: Kindly have the folder list in the Unread tab behave as before, i.e. show the folders in the order as they are when All folders are shown. The idea of the Unread tab is simply to only show folders that have unread messages and leave the other invisible, not to do something fancy with the order. Thanks. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folder list sorting for 'Unread' and other tabs
I have my folder list sorted in a particular way: for each account the Inbox/Outbox etc first and then the rest of the folders grouped in order of importance (important ones first) On the 'Unread' tab we now have the ability to show the account in a column, which I like very much. However: I have found no way to display the folders on the 'Unread' and other tabs in the same order as the original folder list. Because operations such as 'jump to next unread' use the folder order of the 'All' tab, using them on the 'Unread' tab sometimes produces unexpected results. For example 'jump to next unread' on the first folder of the list goes to the end of the list. I have opened a BT issue for this. Please support the issue when you are missing this too: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address History enhancement
Hi MAU, On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, at 15:52:01 [GMT +0100] (which was 15:52 where I live) you wrote about: 'Address History enhancement' That is called 'Virtual Folder' and it's been around for quite some time my friend :-) But not with all Adresses which belong to one Person of the Adressbook. I'm not sure what you mean. What he probably means is: - Create a Virtual folder and associate it with an address book entry. All mails to/from all the email addresses in the address book entry hould be shown in the VF - If you update the email addresses in the address book entry(because a person gets a new address for instance) the virtual folder should automatically show the messages to/from the new address as well. Btw: I how to create a VF and configure this manually, but that means that a new address has to be added a couple of times: - in the address book - in a VF filter condition for Sender - in a VF filter condition for Receiver By the way: I would love to see a rule for VFs so you can filter on Sender or Receiver in one condition. Most of my VFs are used to show mail from/to people and I have to duplicate the email address in each VF Filter. I tried to work around this by specifying that the header contains an email address, but that makes the VFs VERY slow. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.5 ALPHA
Hi Maxim, On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, at 05:41:28 [GMT +0200] (which was 4:41 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 4.0.0.5 ALPHA' [-] Decryption of tripple-wrapped messages didn't work (Beta issue) [-] Fixed a bug in folder compression which could occur with IMAP folders [-] In many of the windows, the OK button didn't have a shortcut for O [-] Physical RAM was not released when you minimize The Bat! in all versions since 3.99.24. The action of releasing the physical RAM is called trimming the working set of an application You can find out more about it on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/293215 [*] (#0006348) URL automatic detection in plain text now allows national characters as a part of an URL. [-] Fixed a problem of importing contacts from Outlook, caused by import of image. The importing might stop at a certain contact. This have appeared in 3.99.24 [-] (#0006348) URLs with accents are not fully underlined [-] (#0005416) Assign Character Set to Write Messages to Groups Not Working Correctly [-] Character set in Edit submission forms dialog wasn't saved [-] 0005746: Memory Usage on Password Protected Account NOT RELIEVED After Closing Thanks, Running fine over here. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.5 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Happy new year to Ritlabs and all testers :-)
Hi Marek, On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, at 23:54:58 [GMT +0100] (which was 23:54 where I live) you wrote about: 'Happy new year to Ritlabs and all testers :-)' best wishes to all, lets prepare the best The Bat! in 2008! :D I can only second that. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.5 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address History enhancement
Hello group, I have posted an enhancement request for the 'Address History' tab: I would like to see the entries from my address book there in stead of a collection of email addresses from the email history. If you want to support this, please do so: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6614 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.5 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Configure Foldertabs dialog contains 'old' colourgroups
On the 'configure foldertabs' dialog some old colour groups are displayed that do not exist anymore the 'edit colour groups' dialog. Does anyone else see that too? How can I get rid of these ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Suggestions for the new Addresses History Tab
I really like the idea of the Addresses History (AH) tab, but I have some comments to it. I would like to share these with you and ask for some feedback. A I would like to see an option to show the addresses from my Address Book rather than all the addresses collected from the message base. The ones in the Address book are more valuable to me than the others. B Sometimes people use more than one address. In the address book you can add multiple addresses for one person. I would like to see these people as one entry in the Addresses History. Would that be possible? (if A is implemented then this is automatic) C In the settings for the AH tab I have specified that it should collect addresses for outgoing messages only. Yet I see : - Addresses wit no 'Last Out Date' - Addresses from messages that were send to me (i was in the CC list). Some of these have a 'Last Out' date as well, but I never wrote to these people Is this a bug? Can others confirm this ? D he 'AH Settings dialog allows you to specify the 'Folders to scan'. The dialog for this does not allow you to mark a group of subfolders by selecting a parent. I see that on more dialogs in TB (for example also on the 'Select Folders' dialog for Virtual folders. On the Message finder there are context menu options to select an entire account of a folder and all its subfolders. I would like to see that same functionality all over the system. That would make selecting folders MUCH easiers. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.29
Hi Martin, On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, at 19:13:09 [GMT +0100] (which was 19:13 where I live) you wrote about: '3.99.29' I'm still having the same problem I had with version 3.99.25, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Oct/20/2007. I'm experiencing the problem that the field for the today's messages display time format is emptied every time I restart TheBat. Means I have to enter (for example) t every time I restart TheBat, otherwise default display format is used. Same problem over here. Not a BIG problem, but annoying. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.29 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.29
Hi Maxim, On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, at 17:09:28 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:09 where I live) you wrote about: '3.99.29' 3.99.29 is the same as 3.99.27.2, but wrapped in the MSI. It only fixes the plugin api bug of 3.99.27. The IntPack has left unchanged. http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-29.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-99-29.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_3-99-29.msi I had TB running during installation (Custom setup mode). I got a setup page: -- Files In Use Some files that need to be updated are currently in use. The following applications are using files that need to be updated by this setup. The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs -- On the bottom of the screen were two radio buttons. The first one was selected, but both buttons were _without_description_. That was not very helpful. I shut down TB myself and pressed Ok, and install was ok after that. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.29 on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Small Enhancement request
I have a small enhancement request:
on several spots in TB there is a select folders dialog (e.g. 'Select
folders' for Virtual folders and 'Use By' for View Mode).
It would be very handy if these dialogs were extended:
- with selection properties like in the Message finder ('Select all
in account, select including sub-folders etc)
- if the dialogs were resizable (so you can see more of the tree view)
I could not find a request like this in BugTrack.
Is this an existing request already?
Do you agree that this is useful?
--
Robert van der Hulst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! 3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000
Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Interface Inconsistencies
Hi Zygmunt, On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, at 22:45:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:45 where I live) you wrote about: 'Interface Inconsistencies' [...] The Bat! knows nothing about the the receiving in that program. The Bat! uses current date and set it as 'receive' date. When you retrieve (not import) messages from the archive, you retrieve all information, including receive date for each message. That is not completely true. TB could extract the date from the 'Received' headers in the email. For example your message has the following Received headers in my message base: Of course, The Bat! could use last Received date form the message header, but as you know, this is the date when the message arrived to the server. When you connect to the server tomorrow, The Bat! will receive the message and write internally the tomorrow date as 'receiving' date. From this point of view all is logically correct. After reading all the responses to this thread I think the only sensible solution is for TB to have an option (during import) to set the received date to the last Received date from the header or the current date. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Interface Inconsistencies
Hi Zygmunt, On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, at 21:52:02 [GMT +0200] (which was 21:52 where I live) you wrote about: 'Interface Inconsistencies' The 'received' date is not a part of the message header, it is stored only in the internal database of The Bat!. So, if you import messages from other programs, The Bat! knows nothing about the the receiving in that program. The Bat! uses current date and set it as 'receive' date. When you retrieve (not import) messages from the archive, you retrieve all information, including receive date for each message. That is not completely true. TB could extract the date from the 'Received' headers in the email. For example your message has the following Received headers in my message base: Received: from thrall.0x539.de (thrall.its-toasted.org [87.234.203.181]) by heliks.nl with ESMTP (Mailtraq/2.11.0.2212) id HLKS65DD3D78 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:52:38 +0200 Received: from draenor.its-toasted.org ([87.234.203.178] ident=list) by thrall.0x539.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1INZls-0005Vt-Ar; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:52:12 +0200 Received: from data.pl ([212.85.96.58] helo=v00058.home.net.pl) by draenor.its-toasted.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1INZln-gN-3s for tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:52:07 +0200 Received: from localhost (HELO chello089077112192.chello.pl) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@127.0.0.1) by mail03.home.net.pl with SMTP; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:52:01 - In this case TB could see that the message is received by the mail server on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:52:38 +0200 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.8
Hi Robert, On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, at 21:49:09 [GMT +0200] (which was 21:49 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 3.99.8' I tried it but found the following problem: After starting 3.99.8 one of my (three) accounts was missing most of its folders. The only ones it showed were Inbox, Outbox, Deleted etc (the default ones). Pressing Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L brought them all back. After closing TB and restarting it the list was gone again. So I decided to go back to the build I was using before (3.99.3) and guess what: It immediately showed all the folders at startup (in the correct non-alfabetical order as well). Did you change something in the Account properties file between 3.99.3 or 3.99.8 or do you have another explanation for this ? Am I the only one that loses folders with 3.99.8. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.3 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.8
Hi Maxim, On Tue, 29 May 2007, at 20:11:14 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:11 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 3.99.8' [-] The Bat! didn't detect GnuPGP 1.4.7 [*] IMAP: more mail ticker compatible [-] The macro %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME returns Windows 2003 when used on Windows XP X64 Edition. I tried it but found the following problem: After starting 3.99.8 one of my (three) accounts was missing most of its folders. The only ones it showed were Inbox, Outbox, Deleted etc (the default ones). Pressing Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L brought them all back. After closing TB and restarting it the list was gone again. So I decided to go back to the build I was using before (3.99.3) and guess what: It immediately showed all the folders at startup (in the correct non-alfabetical order as well). Did you change something in the Account properties file between 3.99.3 or 3.99.8 or do you have another explanation for this ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.3 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving on.
Hi Leif, What can I say that hasn't been said before.. Thanks for all your good work ! -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.3 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.98.14
Hi Miguel, On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, at 15:47:33 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:47 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 3.98.14' http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39814.rar [-] Mail chat problem with national characters [-] Memory leak when a new message was stored into a folder (beta .12 issue) And what happened to beta .13? ;) Could be two things: 1. they are superstituos 2. the internal QA has found something before it was released to us. Let's hope that it was # 2 (because it means that they are doing QA) -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.98.14 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.98.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Reply add blank lines
Hi Dirk, On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, at 14:57:32 [GMT +0700] (which was 9:57 where I live) you wrote about: 'HTML Reply add blank lines' Sorry for that, it was to early in the morning ;-) I downloaded the .9, restarted TB!, but forgot to copy the new .exe into the program folder. Marek, you are right, all HTML messages are quoted right now. I always hated the way TB quoted HTML messages with a table with a blue left column, so I had the setting 'Reply to HTML as text' on. I just tried this again (hoped to see an improvement) but it still does that. Am I the only one that does not like this quoting style. Or is this configurable somewhere ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.98.9 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.98.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: After 1 day TB under Vista
Hi Gunivortus, On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, at 12:17:37 [GMT +0100] (which was 12:17 where I live) you wrote about: 'After 1 day TB under Vista' after observing TB under Vista Bussiness 64 bit in a dual 2 core PC, the CPU usage was when reading, writing and sending mail very low, even with extreme long mails under 2 %. The maximum of used memory I registrated was about 15 Kb, but generally while in use (reading, writing) between 8 and 12 Kb, when just active in the system tray about 7 Kb. Thanks for the report. But with regard to the memory usage: that must me between 8 and 12 Mb I assume ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.98.5 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
Hi Vili, Yes, there are. The RFC rules for version numbering can be found here: http://www.thebat.hu/rfc_version_numbering.html ROFL ! -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.98.2.2 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.96.08 (BETA)
Maxim, 9Val On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, at 19:26:22 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:26 where I live) you wrote about: '3.96.08 (BETA)' [-] The AV on exit issue? http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39608.rar Well done. I can exit without AVs again (not that I exit that much. I usually keep TheBat running in the background for most of the day). Glad you found it! -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.8 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.96.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.07 (BETA) is now available
Hi 9Val, The Bat! 3.96.07 (BETA) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] AVs on exit I am sorry. Not fixed yet. See your mailbox. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.07 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.96.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.96.05.2 (BETA)
Hi Maxim, On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, at 13:41:02 [GMT +0200] (which was 12:41 where I live) you wrote about: '3.96.05.2 (BETA)' [-] Fixed another AV on exit (beta issue) http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39605_2.rar I am sorry to be the bringer of bad news (again). This still crashes on exit. After the AV I get the same message as before: Runtime Error 217 at 0041F971 Please let me know what other information you need to kill this nasty bug. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.5.2 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Exception Log AV on exit
Maxim, See attachment. Please let me know if you need anything else. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.5.2 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4ÿþv 3 . 9 6 . 5 . 2 ( B E T A ) H E R M E S / r o b e r t h 1 4 - 2 - 2 0 0 7 1 7 : 1 9 : 2 6 R e c o r d s : U s e r . D e s t r o y [ n e w s ] E A c c e s s V i o l a t i o n A c c e s s v i o l a t i o n a t a d d r e s s 0 0 5 B 9 0 5 4 i n m o d u l e ' t h e b a t . e x e ' . R e a d o f a d d r e s s 0 0 0 0 0 0 E 7 v 3 . 9 6 . 5 . 2 ( B E T A ) H E R M E S / r o b e r t h 1 4 - 2 - 2 0 0 7 1 7 : 1 9 : 2 6 R e c o r d s : F o l d e r D B . F r e e E A c c e s s V i o l a t i o n A c c e s s v i o l a t i o n a t a d d r e s s 0 0 4 0 4 A 1 0 i n m o d u l e ' t h e b a t . e x e ' . R e a d o f a d d r e s s 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B v 3 . 9 6 . 5 . 2 ( B E T A ) H E R M E S / r o b e r t h 1 4 - 2 - 2 0 0 7 1 7 : 1 9 : 2 7 R e c o r d s : U s e r . D e s t r o y [ H e l i k s ] E A c c e s s V i o l a t i o n A c c e s s v i o l a t i o n a t a d d r e s s 0 0 5 B 9 0 5 4 i n m o d u l e ' t h e b a t . e x e ' . R e a d o f a d d r e s s 0 0 0 0 0 0 E 7 v 3 . 9 6 . 5 . 2 ( B E T A ) H E R M E S / r o b e r t h 1 4 - 2 - 2 0 0 7 1 7 : 1 9 : 2 7 R e c o r d s : F o l d e r D B . F r e e E A c c e s s V i o l a t i o n A c c e s s v i o l a t i o n a t a d d r e s s 0 0 4 0 4 A 1 0 i n m o d u l e ' t h e b a t . e x e ' . R e a d o f a d d r e s s 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B Current beta is 3.96.05.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.96.05.1 (BETA)
Hi Maxim, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39605_1.rar I am sorry, but I get the same AV on exit as in the previous build. It doesn't look worse (yet ?), so I will continue to use this build. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.5.1 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: AVs on exit
Hi 9Val, On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, at 12:09:42 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:09 where I live) you wrote about: 'AVs on exit' Could everybody who still has AVs on exit describe his configuration (OTFE, protocols used, plugins, auto-checking on startup, etc) - No OTFE - Crash With and Without bayes filter - Crash with and Without auto update checking - 3 accounts with Pop3 mail boxes - Over 280.000 messages in the history (one of the accounts has news messages) - 'Compress on exit' activated for some of the mailboxes - Program on desktop, mail folders on server (Gigabit connection) -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) is now available
Hi 9Val, On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, at 23:54:16 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:54 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) is now available' RvdH Please tell me what else you need to help you fix this. Turn off auto-update and check if that helps. Just to be sure the problem is in it. I switched off autoupdate and stopped TB - crash I started up TB (with autoupdate off) and stopped it - crash I guess I have to keep it running -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.96.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) is now available
Hi 9Val, On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, at 00:38:02 [GMT +0200] (which was 23:38 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) is now available' The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] AVs on exit I am still seeing AVs unfortunately. First I suspected the BayseFilter plugin, but even when I disable that plugin I get an AV during exit. What do you need from me to help you find the remaining AVs ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.03 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.96.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) is now available
Hi 9Val, On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, at 23:15:59 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:15 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) is now available' The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] Fixed a bug with OTFE [-] AV on exit when using auto-update without connection [-] minor fixes I am afraid to tell you this but this build still crashes on exit on my machine. I do have autoupdate enanled and the only plugin is BayesFilter. After the AV I also get a dialog telling me: Error Runtime Error 217 at 0041F971 Please tell me what else you need to help you fix this. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.96.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! and network administration
Hi Marek, On Fri, 5 May 2006, at 14:56:46 [GMT +0200] (which was 14:56 where I live) you wrote about: 'TB! and network administration' [!] Removed deprecated feature Client-Server Mode So why was it deprecated, and why is it still listed as an option in the helpfile (and not marked deprecated there) ? In most other products features are marked 'deprecated' in the documentation for years until they finally are dropped. I agree with Vili that has been removed silently. Just one line in the long readme, without explanation for the reason why it was removed. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.80.03 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.80.03 is now available
Hi Paul, On Wed, 3 May 2006, at 21:06:56 [GMT +0100] (which was 22:06 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 3.80.03 is now available' They do run at awesome resolutions these days. My Dell Latitude D810 runs at 1900x1200 which is great! Yes, as long as you are younger than 25, have manifying glasses or run windows with extremely large fonts. For my (46 years old) eyes that is little over the top -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.80.03 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.80.03 MAPI and WinRAR
Hi vitalie, On Wed, 3 May 2006, at 22:34:09 [GMT +0300] (which was 21:34 where I live) you wrote about: '3.80.03 MAPI and WinRAR' it tells me i have to inspect your EXCEPT.LOG I have a 165 Kb except.log. Are you interested. The lines from today are: v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 13:22:43 Records:User.Destroy [SAS] EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00603B71 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 00EB v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 13:22:43 Records:FolderDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004048E4 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 000B v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 13:22:43 Records:User.Destroy [news] EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00603B71 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 048F v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 13:22:43 Records:FolderDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004048E4 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 03AF v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 14:24:49 Records:User.Destroy [SAS] EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00603B71 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 03E0 v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 14:24:49 Records:FolderDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004048E4 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0300 v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 14:24:49 Records:User.Destroy [news] EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00603B71 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0449 v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 14:24:49 Records:FolderDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004048E4 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0369 v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 19:24:56 Records:User.Destroy [SAS] EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00603B71 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 03E0 v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 19:24:56 Records:FolderDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004048E4 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0300 v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 19:24:56 Records:User.Destroy [news] EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00603B71 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 04B2 v3.80.03 HERMES/roberth 03/05/2006 19:24:56 Records:FolderDB.Free EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004048E4 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 03D2 Maybe you ought to setup an 'automatic email to Ritlabs' for exceptions, A service like Ms has. Although that might generate another exception, and again and again if there is an error in the message sending engine ;-) -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.80.03 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Customiser usage notes
Hi Mark, On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, at 22:43:10 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:43 where I live) you wrote about: 'Customiser usage notes' This way I was able to create a Menu Item Sub-Item Kleur Urgent/Work Urgent/Private Tagged/Work Tagged/Private Normal These are 5 of 10 colourgroups that have been defined. After saving and closing Customiser, I have a Menu-Item with all 10 of my colourgroups, repeated from top to bottom of my screen. Furthermore, I cannot change the colourgroup of a message at all. After reopening the Customiser I can see that the Container Item Kleur is still there, but the names of the Sub-Container (Sub-Items above) have all been replaced by the title of the item they belong to in the list of the Customiser: folder colour group (see attached). I tried this too. But after closing the customizer I got all kind of AVs. Restarting TB resulted in AVs as well. Only after I restored the backup of Tbuser.def everything worked as before (without the customizations) -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.72.08 (Beta) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.72.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid Class Typecast with 3.65
Group I am getting the message Invalid Class Typecast when I hit send after writing a reply to a message, and also when I try to save the message in the outbox. When I try to save the reply as draft I get the a AV at address 458BF08B Has anyone else seen this. Could this be related to the Outbox Protection that was discussed in this group ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.65 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.65 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid Class Typecast with 3.65
Hi Robert, On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, at 10:52:55 [GMT +0100] (which was 10:52 where I live) you wrote about: 'Invalid Class Typecast with 3.65' I am getting the message Invalid Class Typecast when I hit send after writing a reply to a message, and also when I try to save the message in the outbox. When I try to save the reply as draft I get the a AV at address 458BF08B Has anyone else seen this. Could this be related to the Outbox Protection that was discussed in this group ? One more addition after switching back to 3.64.01 I could see a message counter of 8 messages in the outbox, but I did not see any messages in the message list. After doing folder maintenance on the outbox I could see the messages. They were all identical. Some of them had the draft flag, others not. Apparently the messages were saved correctly to the Outbox. I have deleted all but one and could succesfully send that last messages. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.65 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How to manage newsgroup via tb ?
Hi Claude, On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, at 05:48:32 [GMT + (UTC)] (which was 6:48 where I live) you wrote about: 'How to manage newsgroup via tb ?' Could someone tell me if there is a plugin to manage tis task ? I am running a mailserver (MailTraq) that has news-mail and mail-news gateway. I have created a special user on the mailserver that receives all the news messages and have created an account in Tb for this user. This works very well. There is a fully function free version of MailTraq available (Mailtraq4Free): http://www.mailtraq.com/47/ -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.64.03 Christmas Edition on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.64.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB 3.63.15 and Organization Header field.
I have found the following problem: TB 3.63.15 does NOT add a space after the Organization Header field. It produces the following output: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:46:29 +0100 From: Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.63.15 (Beta)) Professional Reply-To: Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization:SAS Software This causes the message to be refused by some mail servers. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB 3.63.15 and Organization Header field.
I have found the following problem: TB 3.63.15 does NOT add a space after the Organization Header field. It produces the following output: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:46:29 +0100 From: Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.63.15 (Beta)) Professional Reply-To: Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization:SAS Software This causes the message to be refused by some mail servers. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.63.15 (Beta) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.
Hi Nick, On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, at 13:55:15 [GMT -0600] (which was 20:55 where I live) you wrote about: 'Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.' Hello Robert, What is your setting for Home Directory in Account Properties/Files Directories. Did you speficy a complete path or are you using Default. I have Default for each account and just a Mail Directory set in Preferences/System. A complete path. Because. and this is why I want Voyager so badly, I have the mail directories on a USB drive - not below the folder with all of TB's executables. If you set the root mail directory in TheBat (Preferences/System) to the USB drive, you should be able to use default for each Account. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.
Hi Nick, On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, at 13:10:28 [GMT -0600] (which was 20:10 where I live) you wrote about: 'Voyager - I'm crying Uncle.' Did you have all of your accounts stored in the same mail directory or were they in different locations? All the accounts are under one folder called mail. What is your setting for Home Directory in Account Properties/Files Directories. Did you speficy a complete path or are you using Default. I have Default for each account and just a Mail Directory set in Preferences/System. I bet you have a hard coded path in your Account properties. Get rid of that and let everything be relative to the General Mail Directory, and it works. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and headers
Hi Roelof,
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, at 15:42:51 [GMT +0100] (which was 15:42 where I live)
you wrote about: 'Voyager and headers'
MM The Editor registry key has left from the previous version of
MM Voyager, the 3.63.03 keeps header info in the INI file.
No, it isn't.
I deleted the voyager tree in the registry and on sending a message
(not on opening and closing the editor without sending) it creates a
voyager\editor\(Standaard)
\Headers
\speller\24941\(Standaard)
etc
The other keys:
voyager\(Standaard)
\LastBirthCheck
\MslOrder
\Next Tip
\Show Tips
are created on startup
('Standaard' is Dutch for 'Default')
Confirmed: happens here as well.
--
Robert van der Hulst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! 3.63.3 (BETA) on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TBV and the regitry
Hi Maxim, On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, at 18:22:40 [GMT +0200] (which was 17:22 where I live) you wrote about: 'TBV and the regitry' Beta version of the Voyager still keeps something in the registry, but we will eliminate registry usage in the release version. Thanks for the confirmation ! -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Voyager
Hi Frank, On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, at 09:55:59 [GMT +0100] (which was 09:55 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! Voyager' Unfortunately not. I've ordered TB over element5 and the e-mail from RITLABS only contains the registration information :-( Try a fake order number and then use Help/Enter Registration code to copy the registration info in. That is what I did, and it works. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
