Re: The Bat! v6.0.0.7 ALPHA
Hallo Maxim, On Sun, 6 Oct 2013 03:21:48 +0300GMT (6-10-2013, 2:21 , where I live), you wrote: MM The Bat! v6.0.0.7 ALPHA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb6007a.rar Still doesn't remember changed shortcuts and toolbar settings -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator word processor: Word Imperfect http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 6.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.8.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: alpha 5
Hallo Maxim, On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 21:10:06 +0300GMT (3-10-2013, 20:10 , where I live), you wrote: MM Here is the alpha 5: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb6005a32.rar Still forgetting toolbars and shortcuts when starting anew. Even when they've been defined in the previous run of the same beta -- Groetjes, Roelof At least the moderator replies to my messages! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 6.0.0.5 (ALPHA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v6.0.0.4 ALPHA issues left
Hallo Maxim, On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 20:44:56 +0300GMT (2-10-2013, 19:44 , where I live), you wrote: MM Could you please reiterate which of the The Bat! v6.0.0.4 ALPHA MM issues left, even if you already mentioned them, please mention MM again, thank you in advance. After closing and starting TB forgets that I've disabled the toolbars. The credits window (help - about - credits) doesn't close with 'back to about', it closes with Alt-F4 so you don't need to kill TB -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #2: You're NOT God but don't tell anyone. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 6.0.0.4 (ALPHA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! alpha .3
Hallo Maxim, On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:38:53 +0300GMT (1-10-2013, 22:38 , where I live), you wrote: MM The Bat! alpha .3 fixes template encoding issues. MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb6003a.rar Forgot the previously configured shortkeys Displays toolbars that were turned off. When I turn them off again they become visible next time I start TB Doesn't show at the task bar -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator alert! Well, yes ma'am...sorry. But it is kinda off topic. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! alpha .3
Hallo Roelof, On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:30:21 +0200GMT (1-10-2013, 23:30 , where I live), you wrote: RO Doesn't show at the task bar Odd. It shows on the task bar after I started complaining. My other problewms didn't solve so easily. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Satan in some cases. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 6.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.8.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.4.6.0
Hallo Maxim, On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:55:48 +0300GMT (9-9-2013, 16:55 , where I live), you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.4.6.0 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5460.rar MM What's new in 5.4.6.0 since 5.4.4.0: MM [-] AV when switching Toolbars on and off (Beta issue) Yep. Fixed. -- Groetjes, Roelof I think that ALL Moderators should be Shot at Dawn! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4.6 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.6.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.4.4.0
Hallo Maxim, On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:58:51 +0300GMT (5-9-2013, 21:58 , where I live), you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.4.4.0 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5440.rar MM What's new in 5.4.4.0 since 5.4.2.0: MM [+] Lock Toolbars option for windows with adjustable toolbars MM [-] Account properties dialogue: Toolbars and menus of template MM editor were intercepting some shortcuts from other controls Opening the quick search toolbar gives me an AV: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00C4753F in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 2BF0. --- OK --- -- Groetjes, Roelof Can you teach an old Moderator new tricks? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After Sending eMail a copy in Outbox ready to send
Hallo Eddie, On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:15:39 +0700GMT (19-8-2013, 2:15 , where I live), you wrote: Conclusion: this is clearly an annoying bug that is cluttering my Outbox. And I have no remedy for it. Anyone made similar observation/experiences? Cleare your imap cache and see whether that helps. How to do that? That's a good one, I definitely remember a menu option to do that, but I can't find it. :-( So you've got to do that manually: Close TB In the explorer: Go to your mail directory, enter your account directory and locate a directory called IMAP Delete all files from that directory Start TB again. -- Your signature delimiter isn't working as intended. It's supposed to be dash dash space enter, but yours is space dash dash enter, please correct that. And please don't use HTML for this list. -- Groetjes, Roelof I am Moderator of Borg. Your topic is irrelevant. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4.2.0 (ALPHA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.2.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After Sending eMail a copy in Outbox ready to send
Hallo Eddie, On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 07:38:45 +0700GMT (18-8-2013, 2:38 , where I live), you wrote: EC Conclusion: this is clearly an annoying bug that is cluttering EC my Outbox. And I have no remedy for it. Anyone made similar observation/experiences? Cleare your imap cache and see whether that helps. -- Groetjes, Roelof Ethics? Sorry, you have the wrong Ferengi..er..moderator. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4.2.0 (ALPHA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.2.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.4.2.0
Hallo Maxim, On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:52:27 +0300GMT (12-8-2013, 11:52 , where I live), you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.4.2.0 (ALPHA) is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5420.rar UR MM What's new in 5.4.2.0 since 5.4.1.0: MM [-] Program crashes when AltGr is pressed (introduced bug) That kept me from installing the previous beta. This one doesn't act funny on pressing AltGr. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators: Out of sight, out of mind. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4.2.0 (ALPHA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.4.2.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: From pop3 to Imap
Hallo Mark, On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 00:20:23 +0200GMT (14-6-2013, 0:20 , where I live), you wrote: MP Perhaps not a beta-subject, but what is the reason why it is not possible to turn a Pop3-account MP into an imap-account? Because they're a bit different. IMAP is a protocol for storing your mail online and access it remotely. POP3 is a protocol to retrieve messages. MP When trying to do so, one gets a screen suggesting to create a new account. That's a reasonable suggestion. ;-) Your POP3 account has lots of (or a few) messages stored locally, in a local folder structure. An IMAP account stores its messages in a remote folder structure. Now suppose that the folder names in your local structure don't conflict with those in your remote structure and you switch from POP3 to IMAP. What would you suppose to happen? - local folders stay local and remote folders stay remote? So when you access your account from one computer, it'll show different messages compared to accessing it from another, because some systems also have local folders... Kind of confusing - or should the local folders need to get transfered to the server? Automatically? Without you telling what stuff you want to get stored online and what not? And these options are what you get with different folder names. I can mention a few even more confusing options when the folder names match. ;-) Considering this, the only sensible thing to do is creating a new account. That way yo know what's local and what's remote and you can decide at your own time when and what you want to transfer from local to remote storage. When you've got a main account with a 5 GB message base like I do, these issues are getting kind of real important. -- Groetjes, Roelof Cthulhu is just an aka for Moderator. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.8.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat - Beta Version 5.3.8.8
Hallo Ethan, On Sat, 18 May 2013 07:23:25 -0400GMT (18-5-2013, 13:23 , where I live), you wrote: EJM Is it possible to turn off the in box analyzer. I find the sorting is really not EJM helpful given I have filters. When I deselect the accounts, it appears it is EJM back on again. Options - Preferences - Other options - Inbox Analyzer Uncheck the things that tell it when to run. -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't tease the Moderator: He's Nuclear Capable! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.8.8 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.8.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Procedure for switching to OTFE
Hallo Maurice, On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:22:42 +0200GMT (11-4-2013, 9:22 , where I live), you wrote: MS Do I need to trash the entire tree of TB!-related registry entries in MS order to switch to OTFE Yep, actually you don't need to uninstall and install TB, simply deleting the registry is enough. On running TB the next time it'll consider that as a first run and you can define your mail directory and set OTFE. It will cause problems when you set the mail directory to the location of your unencrypted message base. -- Groetjes, Roelof Rule #05: Everyone must buy the moderator chocolate. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.8.7 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.8.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.4 (BETA)
Hallo Rick, On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:20:48 -0400GMT (12-3-2013, 3:20 , where I live), you wrote: RG I am having some issues with the maintenance center. It seems to RG stop after checking for duplicates RG Confirmations anyone? No problems here, 251 folders in 5 pop and 2 imap accounts -- Groetjes, Roelof Arguing with a moderator in public may be hazardous to your access. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.8.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.8.3 Problem Replying to ALL
Hallo Rick, On Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:47:58 -0500GMT (9-3-2013, 3:47 , where I live), you wrote: RG When I forward to all, the entire body of the message disappears. RG I have some account level templates. RG I have a folder template for forwarding and the reply template is RG blank. There is also an address book entry for one of the entities to whom I am replying As there is no 'forward to all' I guess you're replying to all. If the address book entry for a reply is empty and selected, then the reply will be empty. I've been using that feature for ages. Address book templates will only be used when the person (or group) that have that template defined, are the first one listed -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderatoritis: symptoms include swollen head and running mouth. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.8.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook counters
Hallo Maurice, On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:11:34 +0100GMT (7-3-2013, 17:11 , where I live), you wrote: MS Recently however I noticed that for some groups, the number of items MS in the list of groups differs from the actual number of items in it and MS as counted on the status bar. MS Is anyone else seeing this? Is this a bug, or am I missing something MS that could be a reason for the discrepancy. Confirmed. -- Groetjes, Roelof A moderator AND a tagline thief... JUST SHOOT ME! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.8.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.8.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Problem?
Hallo Steven, On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 07:59:19 -0500GMT (7-2-2013, 13:59 , where I live), you wrote: SPV What happens first: Filtering or Junk Checking? Junk checking happens first. Cannot be altered. However, what you can do, is make your spam filter add a header (or add something to the subject), but not drop it to the junk folder. And configure the sorting office to move everything with that spam header to your junk folder. You should place that spam filter in your sorting in such a way that addresses with lots of false positives get filtered before your spam filter gets activated. Unfortunately I don't know for sure whether this is possibe with your Regula plug-in. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Satan in some cases. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.6.2 Maintenance Center not working correctly
Hallo Rick, On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:55:06 -0500GMT (15-1-2013, 4:55 , where I live), you wrote: RG The maintenance center stops after deleting duplicates and goes RG no further. IF you stop it and uncheck the options to check the RG folders and find duplicates it hangs The Bat RG Confirmations anyone? I will make bug tracker entries tomorrow when I get up Cannot confirm. Picked all options and all of my folders. Most time was used checking my main account (5 GB pop3)maintenance flew through my imap accounts, took hardly any time, even though the biggest had a 4 GB cache. -- Groetjes, Roelof Appease the Moderator Monster. Send Jelly Babies. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.3.6.2 BETA
Hallo Rick, On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:13:40 -0500GMT (13-1-2013, 22:13 , where I live), you wrote: RG Also, I have new and reply templates that define the plain text editor for this group RG I replied to Maxim's and it worked correctly. I replied to THIS RG message of yours and it came up HTML only, a mode I never use. RG This is something to watch for I guess Confirmed, the %SetEditor setting in my address group template is ignored too. -- Groetjes, Roelof Decrease moderator unemployment: Post off-topic messages http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.6.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 5.3.6.0 on Win7
Hallo Thomas, On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:48:27 +0700GMT (1-1-2013, 17:48 , where I live), you wrote: TF Just upgraded my Windows and have two problems: TF 1.) TheBat does not flap any more when there are unread messages. It did flap here, but it stopped flapping as soon as I pinned it to the task bar. And as I consider it more convenient to have it pinned to the task bar I accepted the non flapping as the price to pay. TF 2.) I cannot see the To header, even though it is selected (see TF attached screenshot). I saw that TB shows the organisation even though you had that disabled. You might try to toggle the show organisation and to headers on and off a couple of times and see if that helps. Over here I've set the same options as you for headers to show and I get the right headers. (Though I've set a threaded view mode, but that shouldn't matter as I see the same headers when I disable threading.) TF Any confirmations? Partly. -- Groetjes, Roelof Borg Moderator: Kill thread, your post is irrelevant! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to all Reply quoted selected text - doesn't use Reply template?
Hallo Graham, On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 08:51:16 +GMT (26-12-2012, 9:51 , where I live), you wrote: GF Using REPLY in this list I get this template used which details the TB version GF However if I use REPLY ALL, or REPLY quoting selected text - I GF get the std default reply template - not the address book template for TBBeta. GF Is this right??? Yep, that's half right. When using reply all, the first recipient of the new message is the sender from the original message. And the first recipient is checked against the address book, not the addresses in the CC header. So reply all gives you the account template (or maybe a folder templatre or an address book template for the first recipient.) On doing reply quoting selected text, I get a message with the list as only recipient and with the appropriate template. So I cannot reproduce that part of your message. [moderator on] Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of testing. While the merits of HTML are debatable, and have been discussed numerous times on the lists, the list rules prohibit HTML e-mail. You can easily automate this by using %%SetEditor=1 in your list template. [moderator off] -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Limit this user to 300 baud when in this conference. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hallo Dwight, On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:15:11 -0600GMT (23-12-2012, 17:15 , where I live), you wrote: Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. DAC Showing my ignorance, will my flagged messages still be flagged (I'm DAC thinking yes, that they get flagged on the server), and will my parked DAC messages still be parked? Yes, they will still be flagged. I didn't know either, as I don't flag many messages, so I tried it. And the results were positive. Now that I'm typing this, I realise that I diodn't check the parking stuff. :-( -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #2: You're NOT God but don't tell anyone. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hallo Dwight, On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:18:38 +0100GMT (26-12-2012, 0:18 , where I live), I wrote: RO Yes, they will still be flagged. RO I didn't know either, as I don't flag many messages, so I tried it. RO And the results were positive. RO Now that I'm typing this, I realise that I diodn't check the parking RO stuff. :-( Tried it with parked messages too. GMail keeps both flagged and parked statuses. Can't vouch for other servers. -- Groetjes, Roelof A moderator has no friends or enemies, except other moderators. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail IMAP not deleting contents of All Mail folder
Hallo Rick, On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:32:45 -0500GMT (23-12-2012, 16:32 , where I live), you wrote: RG Each time I delete a message from All Mail GMail IMAP folder, it keeps undeleting itself. Cannot reproduce that. I deleted some mails, opened my gmail account in my browser and they were missing there too. In case of problems with an imap account: Close TB Open your mail directory with the explorrer, locate the directory matching with your imap account, in that directory you'll find a directory called imap. Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. -- Groetjes, Roelof and also see how to really tick off a moderator. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hallo Graham, On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:18:51 +GMT (23-12-2012, 10:18 , where I live), you wrote: They're filtered just fine over here. Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? GF IMAP on gmail. Perhaps its just because it is so slow? (takes GF several minutes to filter incoming mail..) could be that if I've GF read it in the inbox during the wait - the incoming flag gets GF reset and it fails to filter?? - just guessing, You might try clearing your imap cache: Close TB Open your mail directory with the explorrer, locate the directory matching with your imap account, in that directory you'll find a directory called imap. Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator(n): Subspicies of God, native to Fidonet http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??
Hallo Graham, On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 15:44:35 +GMT (22-12-2012, 16:44 , where I live), you wrote: GF None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated GF folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Cannot confirm. They're filtered just fine over here. Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? [moderator on] GF --- BTW Your signature delimiter isn't working, it should be dashdashspaceenter and not three dashes. BTW2 You're using HTML while that isn't necessary, please don't do that anymore [moderator off] -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator (n): Subspecies of God, specific to Fidonet. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Heather autoview
Hallo michel, On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:37:21 +0100GMT (22-12-2012, 17:37 , where I live), you wrote: MT Why HEADER AutoView function is it more active for a long time? I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. In my config I can see the the headers just fine. [moderator on] MT This is unacceptable, such an attitude towards users. MT User since 1998, I'm not sure to renew my license. Your financial quarrels are somewhat off topic on this list. This list is intended to discuss bugs in (beta) versions of TB and by no means as a direct medium to Ritlabs. I suggest that you take this straight to a representative of Ritlabs in stead of mailing it to the hundreds of users on this list. [moderator off] -- Groetjes, Roelof Decrease moderator unemployment: Post off-topic messages http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! MSI
Hallo Maxim, On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:33:34 +0200GMT (20-12-2012, 17:33 , where I live), you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-3-6.msi Up and running. One strange issue though. Upon starting the new version about 150 messages in my tbbeta folder were marked as unread, even though they had been marked as read for almost two months. The one thing they had in common, was they've been downloaded 22 October (the day I got home from a three week holiday) and that they had been marked as read (as opposed to really have been read) in order to skip through a three week back log of messages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Decrease moderator unemployment: post off-topic. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick reply : Nor Reply to all nor Reply to recipient are working correctly
Hallo Marek, On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:49:32 +0100GMT (15-12-2012, 23:49 , where I live), you wrote: MM only default Reply to sender entry is working correctly, when are used MM entries Reply to all and Reply to recipient, message is sent to MM sender only in both cases. Confirmed -- Groetjes, Roelof A moderator's work is never done http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.4.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.4.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FR: a macro for software edition
Hallo Ivan, On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:14:21 +0400GMT (30-11-2012, 19:14 , where I live), you wrote: IP See my signature. I use Home and don't specify this since this would IP be hard-coding. Omitting this already caused a misunderstanding in one IP case. IP Something like %SOFTWARENAME expanding to The Bat! Pro/The Bat! IP Home Edition of %SOFTWAREEDITION (the name part is unlikely to be IP different ;) ) would solve this. But there's no difference between the two. It's the same program/code, the only diffrence is your license. That's what unlocks the pro features. Next step would be to have the macro tell whether you're using OTFE with or without a hardware token. When those things are relevant for the discussede features then you should mention them, otherwise they're irrelevant. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator-n-- see also god, dictator, egotist, oppressor. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.2.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.2.2 MSI
Hallo Maxim, On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:51:39 -0400GMT (24-9-2012, 15:51 , where I live), you wrote: MM Could you please test the The Bat! 5.2.2 MSI files? MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-2-2.msi Had some odd problems with this one. Close TB, ran the install, afterwards TB told me it was v 5.1.6.15 or something like that, even though I was using 5.3.1.0 before the install. (I know that's an odd way to 'upgrade' but I saw that notification first.) My control panel mentioned v 5.2.2 Uninstalled TB Installed 5.2.2 again and things seem ok. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #2: Warnings are for wimps! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.2.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.1.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.2.2 MSI
Hallo Roelof, On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:42:08 +0200GMT (25-9-2012, 18:42 , where I live), you wrote: MM Could you please test the The Bat! 5.2.2 MSI files? MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-2-2.msi RO Had some odd problems with this one. RO Close TB, ran the install, afterwards TB told me it was v 5.1.6.15 or RO something like that, even though I was using 5.3.1.0 before the RO install. (I know that's an odd way to 'upgrade' but I saw that RO notification first.) RO My control panel mentioned v 5.2.2 RO Uninstalled TB RO Installed 5.2.2 again and things seem ok. That was a bit premature. 5.2.2 installed on my desktop, not in Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\ Had to uninstall it again and manually override the location. -- Groetjes, Roelof A moderator for a humour echo? Talk about useless. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.2.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.3.1.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [v5.x] Switching accounts for new messages
Hallo Dierk, On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:00:16 +0200GMT (18-9-2012, 12:00 , where I live), you wrote: DH I only noticed this last night with the new beta*, I am unable to DH switch from my default account - a POP3 with my hosting service - to DH my GMail account [IMAP]. Could you elaborate? I tried to reproduce that, created a new message, switched it to another account without any problems. Didn't matter whether I did so while I had entered text in the body or was still editing the headers. Only tested it with MicroEd. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Knows all, sees all, trips over own two feet. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.2.1.2 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.2.1.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [v5.x] Switching accounts for new messages
Hallo Dierk, On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:42:26 +0200GMT (18-9-2012, 12:42 , where I live), you wrote: Could you elaborate? 1. Open a new message That's what I did the first time. 2. Go to Options-Active Account-[choose account] On my first trial I tried this with the account as listed in the status bar of the editor, but now I did it via the menu. DH While the message body changes according to templates the From field DH stays, and the message will still be sent/outboxed from the account DH expressly not chosen. I sent the message and the message appeared in the outbox of the selected account. DH My default account is a Pop3 account with the address you see for this DH message, it is shown in first place under Active account. Second place DH is taken by my Gmail account, which is IMAP, and has the address DH dhaa...@gmail.com. My default account is pop3 and I tried it with two IMAP accounts, unfortunately none of them is listed as second in my list of accounts. Both accounts worked as intended, my gmail account has a local outbox and my other imap account has a remote outbox and both acted the same and contained the altered message. -- Groetjes, Roelof Appease the Moderator Monster. Send chocolate. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.2.1.2 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.2.1.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 5.2.1.2 (but also present in previous build): sender blank in inbox message list (it shows in message detail though) for certain messages
Hallo Viktor, On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:03:31 +0200GMT (17-9-2012, 19:03 , where I live), you wrote: VK I have noticed this strange behavior with several messages that I have sent VK to myself, while forging the sender address to be my Gmail account. I can use whatever address in my from header, but not all ISPs accept that behaviour. Some ISPs only allow your own address as originating address. You've got a gmail address and gmail allows sending with none gmail addresses, though they include a (envelope-from #@gmail.com) header. VK The issue: the sender field seems blank for these messages in the message VK list, though it does show in the message detail. VK Apparent cause: Sender address in the form VK m...@domain.tld m...@domain.tld VK ie repeating the bare mail address in both the name and address token of the VK address. VK I can reproduce that anytime, just sending myself a message with sender VK formed as above. I can send myself messages from the exact address as you show it, and that's clearly a bogus address, just depends on the ISP how the message arrives. My default account (on my own mail server) allows everything, doesn't add extra headers or anything, but real ISPs have more concerns as they need to protect themselves against malicious users. (I only need to protect myself against my own stupidity.) So my guess is that it's just a matter of a strict ISP. BTW the @ character has a special meaning in addresses, so if you send a message with a sender in the m...@domain.tld m...@domain.tld format, then it might be a good idea to change that into m...@domain.tld m...@domain.tld -- Groetjes, Roelof The Moderator is God, and there is no God except the Moderator http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.2.1.2 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.2.1.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [v5.x] Switching accounts for new messages
Hallo Roelof, On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:59:41 +0200GMT (18-9-2012, 12:59 , where I live), you wrote: RO My default account is pop3 and I tried it with two IMAP accounts, RO unfortunately none of them is listed as second in my list of accounts. RO Both accounts worked as intended, my gmail account has a local outbox RO and my other imap account has a remote outbox and both acted the same RO and contained the altered message. As an add-on, just realized that though TB's sent mail for my gmail is local, gmail has its own remote sent mail too and there did my sent message appear too. -- Groetjes, Roelof ERROR: Can't find COLDBEER.CAN, Moderator not loaded. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.2.1.2 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.2.1.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 5.2.1.2 (but also present in previous build): sender blank in inbox message list (it shows in message detail though) for certain messages
Hallo Rick, On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:46:07 -0400GMT (17-9-2012, 20:46 , where I live), you wrote: RG I also note (and this has been present for a while now) that if I RG click on the m...@domain.tld it does not find the default mailto: RG account. If anyone can confirm, I will enter it in bugtracker Cannot confirm -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator not found. Enter forbidden topics? [y] [n] http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.2.1.2 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.2.1.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ctrl-G
Hallo Thomas, On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:27:59 +0700GMT (11-8-2012, 19:27 , where I live), you wrote: TF When I mark the first message in a new thread with crtl-G, all TF messages in that thread are marked. This is a new behaviour, and I TF don't appreciate it. I have to manually unmark all messages below it. Confirmed when the thread is folded Not confirmed when is expanded. The same as it is with Ctrl-U/Ctrl-M Not sure about the behaviour in previous versions, but there's a certain logic to it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators CAN'T use twit filters! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.6.10 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.6.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.9 Flagging with control G is not working
Hallo Rick, On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:55:35 -0400GMT (9-8-2012, 22:55 , where I live), you wrote: Every time I try to use control G to flag a message, it is interpreting this as control V and wants to move the message. I use HTML / Plain Text. I have no idea of what might be going on Shouldn't matter as it's a shortcut that's active when the focus is on the message list. However, I tried with rich text, and html (both viewers) and it didn't matter, Ctrl-G kept on being Ctrl-G. You wouldn't have a spare keyboard you could try, would you? -- Groetjes, Roelof Boy did I tell that moderator off when I sa-%$###@$ NO CARRIER http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.6.9 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.6.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.9 Attached graphics no longer show as tabs
Hallo Rick, On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 16:26:14 -0400GMT (8-8-2012, 22:26 , where I live), you wrote: RG That just started in this version. If there are graphics RG attached, they no longer show as tabs on the bottom of the message Previous version did the same. Depends on the html viewer you've selected at Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor - HTML viewer The Bat viewer shows attached pictures System viewer is better with online pictures -- Groetjes, Roelof I am Moderator of Borg. That thread is irrelevent. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.6.9 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.6.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Images in HTML mail)
Hallo Gleason, On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 09:29:02 -0400GMT (6-7-2012, 15:29, where I live), you wrote: GP Steven P Vallière, GP This is not confirmed here. Before I start, let me say that I've asked this several times before and I expect to get shot down again just like I did back then. But I still think this is a valid question: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Gleason. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof On Topic posts that bore you should be deleted. -Moderator Rule #6 Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Images in HTML mail)
Hallo Gleason, On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 09:46:52 -0400GMT (6-7-2012, 15:46, where I live), you wrote: GP Embedded images appear correctly in email I send to correspondents. -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Gleason. ' Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator? Where's the Moderator?! Don't need no Stinkin' Moderator!!! Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: System HTML viewer not displaying embedded images
Hallo Roger, On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 08:19:54 +0200GMT (4-7-2012, 8:19 , where I live), you wrote: RP Since we have had a choice of what HTML viewer to use I have used the System RP HTML viewer without any problem. Yesterday I received a message with .gif RP and .jpg embedded images which were not displayed. I then switched to The RP Bat Html viewer and they displayed normally. Confirmed -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderation is for monks and Moderators. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.6.7 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: copying/moving messages is broken
Hallo Dwight, On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:05:19 -0500GMT (28-6-2012, 15:05 , where I live), you wrote: DAC After highlighting message, mashing crtl-v (or -c), starting to type DAC the name of the target folder does nothing. Confirmed both for pop3 and imap accounts -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators need love, too http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.6.7 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question about Quick Filter button in Status bar
Hallo MAU, On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:21:50 +0200GMT (27-6-2012, 18:21 , where I live), you wrote: It only seems to appear here in a folder that has a filter applied to it already. M What do you exactly mean by a filter applied to it? Do you mean a M filter in S.O. than moves messages to it? If so, I have many folders M with a 'filter applied to them' and they don't show the button when M selected. Select: View - Message list tabs (tough my guess is that you've done that already) Type some text in the quick search bar and press enter A new message tab will appear with text string you've typed The status bar will show your filter icon As some folders show it and some don't, my guess is that you've created a folder view mode with a quick search filter and defined that as default for some folders -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Move it to another echo, please. NOW! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.6.7 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.6.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 AV Windows
Hallo Francis, On Wed, 30 May 2012 22:51:06 +0200GMT (30-5-2012, 22:51 , where I live), you wrote: FD I work now with IMAP, on GMail servers (my own domain name). I don't FD know if this could help. Check your ex_log.txt and thebat_Exceptions.log, both in your mail directory. Maybe they can tell you something and you could send them (off list) to Maxim (only the recent part) -- Groetjes, Roelof A moderator has no friends or enemies, except other moderators. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.6.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: creating a filter in v5.1.4
Hallo cees, On Sun, 6 May 2012 19:39:30 +0200GMT (6-5-2012, 19:39 , where I live), you wrote: C Signed up for a project, got mail and wanted to create a filter using C ctrl-shift-f. It fires up already but nothing is created. No filter, no C map/folder. Can't confirm. Selected a message, pressed Ctrl-Shift-F. Fired up Created a folder Created a filter Re-filtering my inbox moved all my schoolbank messages to that folder -- Groetjes, Roelof Oh no it's the.Ack!A Moderator!Run away!.Run away!BG http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters working in v5?
Hallo Raymund, On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:04:13 +0200GMT (29-4-2012, 9:04 , where I live), you wrote: Does anybody still have any issues with filters? If so, kindly advise whether you are using POP or IMAP. RT I have a filter that moves a received message from an IMAP account to RT a common folder and afterwards set it to read. RT Move works fine. Changing the status doesn't. What if you change the sequence of the actions? -- Groetjes, Roelof Borg Moderator: Your Topic Is Irrelevant, your arguments are futile. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Opening newsletter messages and copying its shortcut
Hallo RS, On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:21:59 +0800GMT (27-4-2012, 9:21 , where I live), you wrote: R In 5.1.2 version can't open news web pages by clicking left button on R message description. It was working in previous versions for over 1 R year (just checked a message from 6 month ago). How do I reproduce your problem? Over here I can click on a URL and it opens just fine. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #2: You are *not* Godbut don't tell a http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.4: Double click in HTML editor creates new message to my address
Hallo Viktor, On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:41:08 +0200GMT (23-4-2012, 10:41 , where I live), you wrote: VK while replying to an email, when I double-click a word in the VK HTML editor to select it (seems to be an VK implicitly understood feature in nearly all text editors), I get a new VK editor window with my own address as recipient in it. Cannot confirm. When replying to an html message and I double click a word in the html editor that action simply selects the word. Doesn't matter whether it's a word in the quotes or my own text. -- Groetjes, Roelof Avoid off-topic warnings -- put the moderator on your twitlist. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.4: Double click in HTML editor creates new message to my address
Hallo Viktor, On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:21:54 +0200GMT (23-4-2012, 11:21 , where I live), you wrote: VK OK, true. Let me be more specific: VK * have a pure HTML mail (can send one to yourself - select Only HTML) VK * select reply to it VK * ERASE all text (when I start typing right away above the quotes, the effect doesn't show) VK * start typing in the newly blank email VK * double-click a word That's even worse, it doesn't create a message to myself, but you. And the message I started with was one addressed to myself. Actually the first time I tried it, I didn't get a new message, but my browser opened with my website. As my default template ends with the URL to that site, that pointed me in the right direction. I put an additional word under my signature in my template and started the procedure anew and behold, no strange behaviour. My final test was your address at the bottom of my account template and yes, double clicking got me a message to you. Apparently what happens is that you select all text in the message, but the code that points to the last used URL isn't slected properly. That's why the whole message is considered part of the coded URL. Definitely a bug. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Burned out shell of a computer hobbyist. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1.0.4] Replied filters work as they should
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:37:13 +0100GMT (23-4-2012, 11:37 , where I live), you wrote: TH Could someone send that version Consider it done. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators do have a tough job. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.1 MSI
Hallo cees, On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:18:49 +0200GMT (19-4-2012, 8:18 , where I live), you wrote: C Installed the Pro and the intpack Why? C I registered the Pro a long time ago, and this seems to be the latest intpack. Isn't the intpack included in the pro version? -- Groetjes, Roelof At least the moderator replies to my messages! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mark Read or Unread act on thread brach if collapsed
Hallo MAU, On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:40:17 +0200GMT (19-4-2012, 10:40 , where I live), you wrote: M If a message is the first of a thread (by Reference) or subthread, and M the thread or subthread is collapsed, if I mark the message as read M (Ctrl+M) the whole thread (subthread) is marked as read. This does not M happen if the thread (subthread) is expanded. Exactly the same occurs M when marking the message as unread (Ctrl+U). I've seen the same behaviour with an earlier v5 when printing a message. (I ended up printing multiple messages) -- Groetjes, Roelof Bother said the Moderator, $^%NO CARRIER http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.1 MSI
Hallo cees, On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:56:15 +0200GMT (18-4-2012, 21:56 , where I live), you wrote: C Installed the Pro and the intpack Why? -- Groetjes, Roelof Flamers to the left, flamees to the right, moderator right in between http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.1 MSI
Hallo Maxim, On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:15:14 +0300GMT (18-4-2012, 21:15 , where I live), you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-1-0.msi Hey, my bat is flying again. It stopped doing that when I started running it on Win 7 last month. -- Groetjes, Roelof A moderator AND a tagline thief... JUST SHOOT ME! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.1
Hallo George, On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:16:03 +0300GMT (14-4-2012, 7:16 , where I live), you wrote: What's new in 5.1.0.1 since 5.0.36.5: [+] MultiSMTP GMM What is this? The ability to configure multiple smtp-servers. Can be convenient when you switch networks regularly. Your office LAN might forbid outgoing smtp connections or your regular ISP only permits connections to their smtp server while you're connected via their LAN. In those cases you might like to switch the smtp-server for a given account. For desktop oriented systems like mine it's not very usefull. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator not found. Enter forbidden topics? [y] [y] http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.1
Hallo Gunivortus, On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 07:47:29 +0200GMT (14-4-2012, 7:47 , where I live), you wrote: GG It _is_ cheap to promise such a thing when leaving 5.0.xx far before. Well, considering the fact that lots of people have been asking for multiple stmp-servers, you might consider that adding that feature warrants a full version upgrade to v6, so be happy they made it a minor upgrade to 5.1. I've never seen a software product using all of the steps between 1.0.0 till 2.0.0, so why do expect Ritlabs to dos so? -- Groetjes, Roelof Official Moderator's Deadly Ninja Throwing NerfStar http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug tracker no longer available
Hallo Serge, On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:02:01 +0400GMT (14-4-2012, 10:02 , where I live), you wrote: SB What happened to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ ? Is there a new URL SB where I can report and view the status of the issues I've reported SB previusly? Ritlabs switched to a new host and there appear to be some problems with getting bugtraq online. -- Groetjes, Roelof Never invoke the Moderator unless you want him to appear! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.1 - Shift ALT F5 for alternate forwarding is not working
Hallo Rick, On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:43:18 -0400GMT (14-4-2012, 19:43 , where I live), you wrote: The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) is available at RG Shift ALT F5 for alternate forwarding is not working although it RG is still in the menu and works from there RG Confirmations anyone? Can't confirm. Both forwarding and alternate forwarding are doing just fine. -- Groetjes, Roelof Get back at your enemies, make them Moderators! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change from Pop to IMAP
Hallo Eddie, On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:00:06 +0300GMT (15-4-2012, 7:00 , where I live), you wrote: EC I have a POP account that I'd like to change to IMAP (gMail Server). EC It looks that this is not simply done by changing send handler from EC pop.gmail.com to imap.gmail.com. EC Must I create a new account on TB! or is there a simpler way? On gMail EC I made the required changes already. Yes, you need to create a new account. Consider this: your pop3 account stores its messages local. The new imap account stores its messages at the server. Suppose you could change the account, that would mean you'd get an odd account with local and remote folders or only remote folders with loss of your local messages. Both are suboptimal solutions. Therefore creating a new imap account is the best solution. And Ritlabs being Ritlabs don't offer any other solution. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof I am Moderator of Borg: That thread is irrelevant. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Wrong Reg Code)
Hallo Paul, On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:24:38 -0400GMT (13-4-2012, 20:24, where I live), you wrote: PVN 4/13/2012 2:23 PM PVN Hi Dwight, PVN On 4/13/2012 Dwight Corrin wrote: DC I'm not sure what perception you are talking about. The paragraph you DC quoted is bereft of perceptions and filled with facts. DC PVN Surely there are unrevealed facts... moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Paul. ' This topic has gone way off / too long / too heated and I am forced to pronounce it dead in fairness to the purpose and other members of the list. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Not all Moderators are user friendly! Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.1
Hallo Eddie, On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 22:31:28 +0300GMT (13-4-2012, 21:31 , where I live), you wrote: EC Maxim, how is this handled with my client who only 1 months ago has EC purchased a license for v4? Are you sure it's a v4 license? From the Ritlabs site: Upgrade policy from The Bat! v4 We inform our users that from December, 23, 2010 we start pre-selling license keys for version 5.x.x. Users that purchase licenses after December, 23, will receive keys that work with versions 4.x.x, 5.x.x and 6.0. From the same date, the upgrade from any previous version to 5.x.x is available with a 30% discount. Users that preorder the keys can work with 5.x.x beta versions before the official release. Upgrade policy remains the same – every user of The Bat! 4.1 and further versions are upgraded to 5.0 without key update. License key for 4.x.x will work with versions 5.0.x. The Bat! 5.1 is planned to be released in July, 2011. From this moment it will be impossible to work with the program using previous version keys, without update on discount. -- Groetjes, Roelof When do we get the chance to practice for the Moderator Toss Event??? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.0.1
Hallo Gunivortus, On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 21:15:19 +0200GMT (13-4-2012, 21:15 , where I live), you wrote: GG That statement in TB therefore looks like a cheap promise. :-( Considering that 5.1 was planned for July 2011 and that you've been warned about this need to upgrade since December 2010, I don't think that Ritlabs deserve this remark. You've got nine months of additional updates. -- Groetjes, Roelof Being a moderator is like herding cats. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.1.0.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outlook Export Wizard
Hallo Eddie, On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:38:28 +0300GMT (10-4-2012, 11:38 , where I live), you wrote: EC To bring the over to TB! seems the hard part. I now notice, that it EC does not create a .TBB file and that I must explicit Import those EC eMails. You could try this: http://www.aid4mail.com/ Let me know how it works out, never used it myself. -- Groetjes, Roelof Phone your Moderator at 3 A.M. for free taglines... http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.5 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outlook Export Wizard
Hallo Eddie, On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:33:33 +0300GMT (10-4-2012, 12:33 , where I live), you wrote: EC To bring the over to TB! seems the hard part. I now notice, that EC it does not create a .TBB file and that I must explicit Import EC those eMails. You could try this: http://www.aid4mail.com/ EC Oh I forgot - which format would you suggest to bring it to TB!? EC aid4mails does not write a TBB file. Thunderbird, TB's import wizard is supposed to be able to read that. However it's supposed to be able to read Outlook too and from your message I gather that that isn't true. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Moderator is NOT God! God has mercy! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.5 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrong Reg Code
Hallo Eddie, On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 18:25:57 +0300GMT (7-4-2012, 17:25 , where I live), you wrote: EC I Installed a new Computer for my client. When entering the EC registration code on his TB! I wrongly entered MY Reg Code instead HIS EC Reg Code. Close TB Start Regedit Delete the key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RegistrationBlock Close Regedit Start TB, it should be running unregistered now. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Policy #1: If you can't beat 'em, BAN 'em! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.5 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP log files
Hallo Raymund, On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:19:05 +0200GMT (2-4-2012, 22:19 , where I live), you wrote: RT I just deleted 90 gigabytes of IMAP log files. RT With the setting verbose log on and maximum logfiles 60 KB. But that's not the account log, the setting for the account log can be set in the account properties. The imap.log is a protocol log file. Protocol log files store everything (including the contents of your messages, that's why they grow so much) and as they're intended solely for problem retrieval purposes you're not supposed to keep them continuously enabled. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator sighted, insert random on-topic tagline. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.4 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:41:47 -0100GMT (26-3-2012, 12:41 , where I live), you wrote: TH We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that TH they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the TH offset has been added the wrong way. You do appear to have an offset listed the wrong way. -- Groetjes, Roelof I don't care! That's one of our moderators. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:41:47 -0100GMT (26-3-2012, 12:41 , where I live), you wrote: TH We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that TH they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the TH offset has been added the wrong way. My previous message was created 5.0.36.2 and that had no wrong offset, but I was using that as my new PC isn't quite up to date with all stuff I prefer to use. So therefore I'm doing this with .3 As far as I can see I'm still using the right offset. So maybe it's a local problem on your computer and not something with the current beta. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderatoritis: symptoms include swollen head and running mouth. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:36:49 -0100GMT (26-3-2012, 18:36 , where I live), you wrote: TH We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that TH they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the TH offset has been added the wrong way. TH I don't think TB has a clue about the time now. See the attached image How did you change to daylight saving time? Automatically or manually? When I view the headers of your message, it appears that the time of creation is 15:36 -0100, whereas the message is received by the server at 18:57 +0100. As my server mentions receipt of your message at 19:58 +0200, my guess is that the receiving server is right about the time. TB gets the time from your PC's system clock and presuming that your message got sent on creation, your system time is off a bit. 15:36 -0100 = 17:36 +0100 So there's a lag of 90 minutes. Apart from that your timezone suggests that you're in the Azores. However, those are the times listed in your last message in this thread. Your first message mentions a creation time of 9:41 -0100 whereas the server confirms receipt at 9:41 +0100 and the latter time matches with the 10:43 +0200 that my server listed. Therefore either your system has some major problems or you are intentionally or not messing around with your system time. -- Groetjes, Roelof Been there, done that, Got warned by the MODERATOR!!! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat
Hallo Thomas, On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:52:29 +0700GMT (26-3-2012, 16:52 , where I live), you wrote: yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF. MM but I was wrong, it was implemented in 4.0 already :-) TF No, not in the version I am using. It should be, because this is in the change log: ,- [ ] | 4.0 | --- | | Security has always been the RITLabs' characteristic feature. This credo was not forsaken by The Bat! 4.0 developers - they introduce the URL manager for background retrieval of the HTML images. Its appearance is caused by malicious codes penetrating PCs through graphic elements of the HTML messages more and more frequently. New manager blocks the suspicious images and lets the safe ones through. URL Manager controls the retrieval of messages not by folder or addressee, but by particular hosts or URLs. | | Large-scale innovations were made in The Bat! 4.0 folder tabs. Now users are armed with Favorite sets of folders and addresses which allow grouping the folders according to various criteria regardless of their mailbox positions. Users with large and sophisticatedly structured message bases shall appreciate this quick message access option. One can add his working projects to different Favorite sets, view his most important folders using Favorites or even read the new messages from virtual folders added to Favorite sets. Each Favorite set may contain folders (including virtual ones) and Address History, which is also a The Bat! 4.0 novelty. | | Address History gives users the possibility to track messages for each of the correspondents. Users may quickly find messages from a particular person, find out when this person replied or wrote a message for the last time, etc. The setup wizard collects initial information from the existing message base, so users can start navigating the Address History right away. Address History is totally adjustable - unnecessary correspondents can be deleted from this view mode, addressees can be divided into groups for the user's convenience. When the Address History is enabled, the list of the recorded correspondents can be accessed on the Addresses tab of the folder pane in the main program's window. It can also be combined with the Favorite sets. | | In The Bat! 4.0 users will find an improved convenient interface. The main windows of the program have a modern look. Headers and free spaces of the windows have nice gradient background, unnecessary borders around graphic components were removed, avoiding visual clutter. The account section of the status bar has its own customizable popup menu, the status bar itself having an option to show/hide the account log. | | The MicroEd text editor is improved. Now it supports Unicode, which means that one message can contain symbols from various sets (Latin, Cyrillic, hieroglyphic sets, etc.). In the new version any system fonts can be used for writing messages. Work with the editor is handier; the text search is equipped with new options. | | The developers highly improved the internal image viewer. Now it allows viewing all the attached images in selected messages navigating between them. The viewer supports rotate, advanced resize and zoom algorithms and full screen mode. | | Among other novelties the following ones should be mentioned: | - %EMAIL% environment variable which simplifies The Bat! support and maintenance; | - smart security buttons in PGP and S/MIME messages; | - addressee's name capitalization thanks to a new %TOFName macro processing algorithm; | - Outlook's attachment TNEF format support; | - work with JPEG images with CMYK and YCCK color schemes; | - five times faster message sorting, less memory consume due to fixed memory leaks. `- -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #4: Everyone hates you, so hate them back! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: (was: winmail.dat)
Hallo Franz, On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:24:25 +0100GMT (19-3-2012, 18:24, where I live), you wrote: FS Best regards, FS Franz Please use a proper quote sign: '' when quoting somebody else. In your message it's impossible to figure out what was written by you and what by the previous poster. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Franz. ' To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators should be well versed in moderation. pgpSH5cN3yOBu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [control] U TOGGLES the read marks, not set them to UNREAD
Hallo Rick, On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:50:48 -0400GMT (16-3-2012, 20:50 , where I live), you wrote: RG [control] U TOGGLES the read marks, not set them to UNREAD RG confirmations anyone? Try it on an unread message Cannot confirm. Keep in mind that an unread message might be set to read because you've selected it for the time you configured in the account settings. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator not found. Enter forbidden subjects? ([Y]/n) http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpydzpk26QYF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP folder sync
Hallo Simon, On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:41:06 +GMT (14-3-2012, 18:41 , where I live), you wrote: SM I did some tidying up using my other mail client, some IMAP folders SM changed name, some were erased, some were changed from one subfolder to SM another, however I can't seem to make The Bat! resynchronise the SM folder list. Account - Properties - IMAP commands - Manage IMAP folders -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators do have a tough job. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpMjrok15u45.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: One Character intend
Hallo Eddie, On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:04:19 +0200GMT (8-3-2012, 8:04 , where I live), you wrote: EC Sometimes back, I think it was Roelof, who made a remark that since a EC few versions TB! adds One Space Character at the start of a new line. EC I also did notice this before. I found a post where we can nicely see EC this: Wasn't me, I've never run into that problem. EC [1] take the last reply from Dwight (Subject: Re: LINKS in HTML Mail not EC properly closed / MsgID: mid:1873630381.20120307145...@fastmail.fm EC [2] Hit the reply button EC [3] As the Original message is in HTML and Dwight replied in HTML your EC reply Window should show as HTML too. Well, actually my tbbeta reply template has a %seteditor macro that forces it to MicroEd, but when I view the message as html and I reply to Dwight, then the reply format is html. EC [4] Switch to Plain Text (MicroEd) Done. EC Now you can see that all Text from the Original Post is intended by EC One Space Character starting from the beginning. The xxx are EC following only afterward. Can't reproduce EC You also will notice, that The reply from Dwight has One Space EC Character after the added. This disables the feature that all that EC comes after -- is cut off. So you will need to remove Dwight's EC Signature by hand. Can't reproduce. My best guess would be that you're using a suboptimal quote prefix. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Limit this user to 300 baud when in this conference. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.2 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpwWvrfzZjSI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.34.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.36 MSI - fixed menu item in the finder
Hallo Maxim, On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:53:46 +0200GMT (2-3-2012, 10:53 , where I live), you wrote: MM If you did install the .36 MSIs before, uninstall them before MM installing these ones. I really hate it when you do that. Nevertheless, the pro installed fine. -- Groetjes, Roelof A LOT of a moderator's work is done privately, via netmail. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.2 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpDFDQ9Trhm4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.34.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macros in Quick Templates work only if message is not a draft
Hallo GwenDragon, On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:01:10 +0100GMT (26-2-2012, 14:01 , where I live), you wrote: G I think, macros should always work in TheBat, after creating a mail and reopening G the saved draft. You can think so, but they don't. G Do macros only work if a mail is not saved? Why? Your macros are interpreted once: when you start editing the message body. If they'd need to be interpreted more times, they should be stored in the message as macro. That way you wouldn't know what text would be generated by the macro until they were interpreted for the last time, probably when you press on the send button. However, that would mean that you'd be sending a message without knowing the actual contents of that message, especially when you've got a load of macros that need to be interpreted. Not knowing what you're actually sending is unacceptable, therefore you cannot use macros that are continuously updating themselves. This is not a bug, it works as designed. -- Groetjes, Roelof Get back at your enemies, make them Moderators! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34.3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpjUMHZMMLzq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.34.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration
Hallo Roger, On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:33:37 +0200GMT (23-2-2012, 12:33 , where I live), you wrote: RP Ooops says it all. Still not sure why you got added to the address. My RP apologies. Just like Marc said: folder templates. You've got a folder where you filter tbbeta messages and when you've selected that folder, new messages get addressed to the list because of a macro like this: %To=TBBETA tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com So when you create a new message while you've selected your tbbeta folder, the tbbeta address gets added to the recipients. Doesn't matter how the primary recipient is selected, by typing or by clicking a link. -- Groetjes, Roelof Cthulhu is just an aka for Moderator. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34.3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpylrHmN5k1G.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.34.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration
Hallo Roger, On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:52:32 +0200GMT (23-2-2012, 16:52 , where I live), you wrote: RP Thanks for your, as usual, expert input. Unfortunately it is not that RP simple, I started, or intended to start the new message from an address book RP group called 'Software vendors' which does not have any reference to tbbeta. Sure, but that's not the issue. While you selected a recipient from the address book, you had your tbbeta folder selected in the account tree pane. Therefore your tbbeta folder template got triggered. -- Groetjes, Roelof Ethics? Sorry, you have the wrong Ferengi..er..moderator. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34.3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpyDYivSNuXo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.34.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! cache and message files
Hallo Tony, On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:33:47 +GMT (17-2-2012, 13:33 , where I live), you wrote: TH Does anyone know if there's a cleanup program or is there any way to TH find out which files are still used by TB! Create a backup with TB Empty your mail directory Restore your backup TB won't backup files it doesn't need However, just to be sure, the safest way to empty your mail directory is by renaming it and create a new empty mail directory with the original name. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator not found, (r)etry (p)ost off topic? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34.2 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpb6ojxzP7yg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.34.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Starting Voyager a new
Hallo Eddie, On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:01:50 +0200GMT (6-2-2012, 15:01 , where I live), you wrote: EC I just installed the latest Voyager v5.0.32.1 EC When I start Voyager it ask me for a Main Password. Is this the same EC as OTFE? Does Voyager only work with OTFE? Yes to both of your questions. -- Groetjes, Roelof C:MODERATOR.EXE \EXPLOSIVE.FUSE \RUNFAST.FAR http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp5liTmFavaA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Download Attachements Loop
Hallo Dierk, On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 07:57:05 +0100GMT (3-2-2012, 7:57 , where I live), you wrote: DH Perhaps a matter of size, the attachment in question - and it doesn't DH really matter if it is Powerpoint, I've had the same with PDF [I think DH I reported that a few months ago] - was about 8.5 MB. Tried that. I Sent a message with two 12 MB .nef files from my main account to my gmail account, could save them from gmail to my desktop. So it's not just the file size. -- Groetjes, Roelof Flirting with the Moderator is ALWAYS HUMOROUS. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpcd39T6nl7U.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Delete Behavior
Hallo Richard, On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 19:48:17 -0500GMT (4-2-2012, 1:48 , where I live), you wrote: DC Look at Folder, Browse Deleted Messages RN That certainly partially toggles what I see. So I guess you are saying RN the answer to my question/point is that it is intended behavior for RN IMAP implementation. It isn't related to IMAP, it's the same for pop3 accounts. I'll explain it. The message base for every of your folders is a single file. When you delete a message, your whole message base should be rewritten When you delete a second message, the file should be rewritten again This means that the whole managing of your message base would consist of lots of rewrites of big files. Not good for your drives and very time consuming. Therefore the index file was invented, it's used for other things too, but also to remember what messages are deleted. So when you delete a message, that message isn't deleted, but it is marked as deleted and the message base will only be rewritten when you compact it. That's why you should enable compacting the message base on exit: Account - Properties - Options - Compact all folders on exit As messages are at first marked as deleted, you can undelete them again as long as you haven't compacted your message base. And as you noticed you can toggle the visibility of the deleted messages. In TB v3 and before 'browsing deleted messages' meant that TB opened a new folder and showed only the deleted messages for your folder, but the current behaviour shows them among the not deleted messages, that's more accurate than the old way. (Though it took me some time to get used to it.) This behaviour isn't unique for TB, it's common practice for all mail clients and it's borrowed behaviour from databases, who behave the same way. It's found in the help file under 'compressing folders', these days TB calls it compacting, but in previous versions it was called compressing and the help file wasn't updated. :-( -- Groetjes, Roelof Borg Moderator: Your Topic Is Irrelevant, your arguments are futile. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpDUGkGSITgn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Testing IMAP
Hallo Eddie, On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:04:10 +0200GMT (2-2-2012, 7:04 , where I live), you wrote: EC But if I read properly your words, this only is valid for this list I EC presume. So it's a matter of settings. Currently I'm not subscribed to any lists that don't set the reply-to themselves and I can't remember being subscribed to any lists that didn't, so it is fairly common. However, I know that for some list admins it's a matter of principle not to alter the messages sent to the list, so you might encounter those. -- Groetjes, Roelof Phone your Moderator at 3 A.M. and learn new words! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpG8JEfRf5X5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Download Attachements Loop
Hallo Dierk, On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 19:45:38 +0100GMT (2-2-2012, 19:45 , where I live), you wrote: DH http://screencast.com/t/BZhO5k0FL DH I selected the PPS to save it, got the message, which I ok'ed, got DH the message again ... well, it poppoed up again and again, no DH attachment saved. DH This happens on GMail, which I use with IMAP. Tried to reproduce it, couldn't. Neither with a pps from gmail-imap, nor with an xlsx from another imap. Both saved just fine. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator? We done nede no stinkin Moderator here. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp9wTaTOP6M1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Context Menu Errors
Hallo Dierk, On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 19:47:13 +0100GMT (2-2-2012, 19:47 , where I live), you wrote: DH http://screencast.com/t/LuKov77tA DH As you see, this context menu has a completely wrong entry [try to DH find it]; I've seen this in several context menus. There's also DH 'Mark Unread' missing. Confirmed, I get the ** mReloadMsg ** listing too, when I open the context menu in the message list for a message that's opened in a separate window. It isn't visible in context menu for the message list of the main window. It's present both for pop3 as imap accounts. However, I haven't got the 'locate original' entry, is your context menu for a virtual folder or something? -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator sighted, insert random on-topic tagline. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp12tcI8edzP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Testing IMAP
Hallo Eddie, On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:16:31 +0200GMT (1-2-2012, 15:16 , where I live), you wrote: You don't have to set the reply-to to this list, the list server does that for you. EC Ah I didn't know that. So you mean no need to put the Reply-To? That's right, that's all been taken care of since I've been subscribed to the tb-lists. -- Groetjes, Roelof Death to all moderators..AAACK!!!...W$%x NO CARRIER http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgprotiTw2QcO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Testing IMAP
Hallo Eddie, On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:29:15 +0200GMT (30-1-2012, 22:29 , where I live), you wrote: EC Using IMAP allows me now to insert the reply-to very easy and I EC presume with Macro too. You don't have to set the reply-to to this list, the list server does that for you. BTW Your message reached the list and tose subscribed t it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators have seen it, ALL. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpQEewJ7b9DT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: 5.0.34 MSI files)
Hallo Curt, On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:28:15 -0500GMT (28-1-2012, 23:28, where I live), you wrote: CAD Installed with success Win7/32. CAD -- CAD Best regards, CAD Curt CAD Sent from my office desktop by The Bat! CAD I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless CAD enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as CAD though it had an underlying truth. ~Umberto Eco CAD Saturday, January 28, 2012, 3:27:59 PM, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, Please test 5.0.34 MSI files. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Curt. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators are back judge, line judge, and referee, so I get 3 timeouts. pgpyLQ9Sj9qdj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.34 MSI files
Hallo Bob, On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:56:58 -0700GMT (29-1-2012, 0:56 , where I live), you wrote: BR May I humbly suggest that the mystics of the credible world faiths Please let's keep this list on topic -- Groetjes, Roelof Ever see a Moderator who would admit the problem was his? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.34 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpX2TrhwLShw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.30.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MSI files
Hallo Maxim, On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:53:45 +0200GMT (27-12-2011, 13:53 , where I live), you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-30.msi This once appears to be installing just fine on Vista. -- Groetjes, Roelof Be nice, Mr. Moderator notices everything! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.30 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpuZcsRXeCHi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: imap counts one unread message that isn't there
Hallo Rick, On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:56:56 -0500GMT (20-12-2011, 2:56 , where I live), you wrote: RG I have often noticed it as the FIRST message in the folder that RG had become read and then disappeared, only to become hidden and unread With pop3 it will happen when a filter is moved by a filter, it will light up for a moment and then it will be moved to another location and disappears from the inbox. My problem with imap was solved by Tony's suggestion to delete the cache. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #4: Off Topic posts are a threat to your manhood. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp3jsCWiOyxP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
imap counts one unread message that isn't there
Hallo tbbeta, One one of my IMAP accounts I regularly get notice that there is an unread message that isn't there. The only way to get rid of that notice is by disconnecting and connecting again to the server. The unread message is always claimed in the Inbox. TB claims the unread message most often when I select the inbox. Today I checked the imap log and that said there were 23 messages, 22 with the flag /seen and one with the flags /deleted and /seen Browsing deleted messages showed me 23 messages (one deleted) but no bold messages, so nothing was unread. The same ghost unread message (in the inbox) happens when I start a new message in that account, but it disappears on sending. Therefore I thought at first that it meant that somebody else was creating a message, as I share that account with five people, but it happens way too often. Besides then it should't disappear when disconnect and connecting to the server. As far as I can tell it isn't related to the amount of messages in the inbox. The account has lots of folders and none of the other folders shows the same behaviour. I don't know when this behaviour started, I think in November, but as I was hardly online in October, it could have started then. -- Groetjes, Roelof I am Moderator of Borg. Follow the rules or be assimilated. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpjzSfqBe9ee.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: imap counts one unread message that isn't there
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:46:09 +GMT (19-12-2011, 13:46 , where I live), you wrote: TH I have seen this. Have you tried clearing the cache? I did just now, let's see whether it helps. Thanks for the suggestion. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Moderator is dead. Long live the monitor. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgphEiSgDP6rH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My own TB! Archive
Hallo Eddie, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:10:22 +0200GMT (15-12-2011, 7:10 , where I live), you wrote: EC BTW - does this tip still apply despite I have .TBI and .TBN files? Yes, the .tbb file hasn't changed and you're not supposed to copy the index file, whether it's tbi or tbn. -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't you hate it when the moderators forget this is a hobby? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpjdZojdGOm7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My own TB! Archive
Hallo Eddie, On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:14:42 +0200GMT (15-12-2011, 11:14 , where I live), you wrote: EC Just for the sake of correctness - the .tbi and .tbn are the Index EC files? Yep, the actual messages are stored in the .tbb file. The old index file was .tbi and the new index file is .tbn. They're used for faster access and storage of memos and flags. When TB finds a folder with only a .tbb file it'll build a new index file automatically. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator's have more fun than ##%@NO CARRIER http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpo3fhqkrC6T.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My own TB! Archive
Hallo Eddie, On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:33:36 +0200GMT (14-12-2011, 11:33 , where I live), you wrote: EC [1] When has the file Format being change? Could this be the reason? That was changed with v4.1 As you needed to upgrade (pay money) from v3 to be able to use v4.1 I don't know when or if you did that upgrade The first v4.1 release was the Christmas release of 2008, so if you've been current, the message base format should not be the problem. Youy could check whether the folders in the account have an .tbi or .tbn index file, the latter is for the new format. EC [2] How o restore the folders and eMails that are present? Try this: Create a new folder in one of your regular accounts (don't put any messages in it) Close TB Copy a messages.tbb file from your archive to your new folder Start TB Access your new folder -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator (n): also see GOD, Tyrant, Egotist, Opressor http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpkyFmaHUdDo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crashing (WAS: 5.0.26.17)
Hallo Eddie, On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:26:09 +0200GMT (7-12-2011, 6:26 , where I live), you wrote: EC I am back to v.14 and there I never have seeing this feature. When was EC it introduced? I encountered it for the first time in .16 and that's the first version that crashed on you, so there might be a connection. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Knows all, sees all, trips over own two feet. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.17 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpTwWBU4IzaW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message filtering
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:48:33 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 8:48 , where I live), you wrote: GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. It's possible that they're caught by other filters. Generally it's best to make filters as specific as possible. GG The filters look like: GG header - contains (all) - (emailaddress of mailing list) GG As actions: GG move to the folder (name of folder) So I'd suggest to create a filter that starts looking a single header, like reply-to or list-id (TB doesn't know these headers per default, but it's easy to define them in the header section and then you can use them in the sorting office) and place them on the top of your sorting office. When that doesn't help there's a problem going on. -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't argue with a moderator, woman or cat. You'll lose. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.26.10 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpXwCSLFCwt7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.26.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
