Re[3]: 1.60h is evil: Vanishing message bodies

2002-04-30 Thread Robert F. Beeger

Hello, Lynna!

Monday, April 29, 2002, 10:13:36 PM, you wrote:

LL version works fine on some machines and is buggy on others
LL there seems to be a conflict with other software or
LL operating systems that might be the cause  of it

That's the fate of software. When it runs, you are happy. When it does
not run, it's hard to say why.

Thanks to all those answers. Now I know where the problem is. Nearly all the
messages in my Send-Mail-Folders are signed with a S/MIME-certificate
from Thawte. So it's the problem others have described.

I could try it with the MS Crypto API but I won't since 1.60c works ok
for me. I'll wait for the next version and try it again then.

I have a Windows 2000 system with all the fixpacks that are available with
Windows Update (Well, I have not installed the Security Rollup since
some colleges had problems with it).
It is a stable system and the only extensions I use the whole time is
Norton Internet Security 2002 Professional and Norton Antivirus 2002.
This constellation works fine with 1.60c.
So I don't think it's a crappy system here that causes this bug.


Greets,   
  Robert F. Beeger
 
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Re[4]: 1.60h is evil: Vanishing message bodies

2002-04-30 Thread Lynna Lunsford

Hello Robert,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 12:00:29 AM, you wrote:

Beeger It is a stable system and the only extensions I use the whole time is
Beeger Norton Internet Security 2002 Professional and Norton Antivirus 2002.
Beeger This constellation works fine with 1.60c.
Beeger So I don't think it's a crappy system here that causes this bug.

Didnt mean to imply that at all.

I am running windows XP on a Athlon 800mhz system with 512MB
ram, and I have the Norton 2002 AV program but I dont use
it because it had conflicts with other programs which I like and wanted
to continue using. Therefore I use AVG antivirus instead of Norton
2002... That may not be the cause of your problem, (as it
works for you with the earlier version of TB!) but I do know
by past experience that it caused problems for me with other
software on systems running win98 and winXP.

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 Lynnamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Haico

Hi!

 I use Computer Associate InoculeIT. It can be called from
 the command line. How can I do that?

I don't think you can in TB!

 Options | Virus protection | External plug-in. Only *.bav,
 it does not call an exe file.

 Am I missing something?

yes. ;) *.bav is the plug-in extension which TB needs to
integrate anti-virus software. I believe only
Kaspersky(sp.?) has it.

Greetings,
Haico



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Re: Lost Connection Centre - Please help

2002-04-30 Thread Charles Collinson


Roelof,

 2) Edit the registry in the key:
HKCU/software/RIT/The bat/RAS height (set to 0)
  RAS left   (set to 0)

Thanks that sort of solved it. How and why it did this I don't know, as I
don't have a resolution that big. The top and left were set at 3000. Maybe
the RAS reg keys want altering to CC, as I didn't relate the two at the time
when I was looking in there earlier.

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Re[2]: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Lynna Lunsford

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Hello Haico,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 12:22:58 AM, you wrote:



Haico yes. ;) *.bav is the plug-in extension which TB needs to
Haico integrate anti-virus software. I believe only
Haico Kaspersky(sp.?) has it.

There is one for AVG ( www.grisoft.com that I downloaded  at
http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip

The file name is avgbat.bav (inside the zip ) if it is still
available there.
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 Lynnamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re[5]: help downloading TB! new version g

2002-04-30 Thread Lynna Lunsford

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Hello DG,

Sunday, April 28, 2002, 5:48:54 AM, you wrote:

Sr. Why not use UltimateZip found at http://www.ultimatezip.com/

Sr. Supports ALL archive formats and is freeware.

Sr. Hope this helps.

Sr. - --
Sr. Regards,
Sr.  DG Raftery Sr.

Thanks for the tip, download in progress. : )
Sounds like a winner, I will be replacing WinZip with
UltimateZip.

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 Lynnamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

1.60h
Windows XP

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Re: No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Ricardo,

@30 April 2002, 23:07:58 -0300 (03:07 UK time) Ricardo M. Reyes wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If I hit send queued mail it says nothing to send, but I can see
 the mail in the Outbox, and surely not parked.

 Now I'm really sure it's bug, and a really annoying one

It's annoying, but it's not a bug. It means that the connection centre
is still open and that the message is locked by a current Send task.

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Re: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Haico

On 30-4-2002 at 10:36, Lynna Lunsford wrote:

Hello Lynna,

Haico yes. ;) *.bav is the plug-in extension which TB needs to
Haico integrate anti-virus software. I believe only
Haico Kaspersky(sp.?) has it.

 There is one for AVG ( www.grisoft.com that I downloaded  at
 http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip

 The file name is avgbat.bav (inside the zip ) if it is still
 available there.

I didn't know that. Thanks for bringing it up.. Maybe there
will be more in the future.

But I don't think there will be one for mcaffee, which I
use.. They don't allow it I heard.. And in my country I
can't use AVG for free. :(

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Re: subscribe to folder in IMAP4?

2002-04-30 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Chill,

On Monday, April 29, 2002 at 17:31:03 +0200, you wrote concerning
'subscribe to folder in IMAP4?':
...
 Is it possible to subscribe to folders in IMAP4 with The Bat!? (This
 is a possibility given by this protocol), if it is possible, how?

Yes it's possible. Go to the mail dispatcher; Account / Dispatch Mail
on server / New messages only. Then in the mail dispatcher press the
Mailbox Controller button or Ctrl+M. Then TB! opens the Mailbox
Controller where you can subscribe and unsubscribe to folders by
pressing the Action tab; Action / Subscribe. You can add new mailboxes
too in the Mailbox Controller.

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Re: Filter strings

2002-04-30 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Fré,

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:52:39 +0200GMT (29-4-02, 19:52 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

I have just given up 'kludges' as location, I'll see what
happens.

FvL Well: nothing ... Messages keep being put in Inbox. What am i
FvL overseeing?

I'll give you my filter.
There are a few things important for the filter, those are:

Source: Your Inbox
Target: Your tbudl folder

String: Reply-To: tbudl
Location: Kludges
Presence: Yes

Active: Must be checked
Manual only: Must not be checked

Since I'm checking for the string Reply-To: tbudl I can be sure that
only messages for this list are triggered by the filter. (Unless some
halfwit writes me a message and deliberately sets the reply-to to
this list.)
Because it's a very specific condition, the filter can be placed on
top of the incoming filter list, this prevents other filters to hijack
the list-messages.

The options 'Active' and 'Manual only' are very important, because a
non-active filter won't be run and a 'Manual Only' filter won't be run
automatically.

That's all I can say about it.
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Multiple accounts redirected to one Inbox and filtered

2002-04-30 Thread Elpros

Hi!

I have 5 accounts and have currently set up filters to move all mails
from 4 accounts to inbox of my main account. However after the move to
inbox messages are not checked against the filters. How can I convince
them to be filtered? I have already checked Continue processing with
other filters in those 4 accounts but it does not seems to help.

Thank you!!

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Re: Multiple accounts redirected to one Inbox and filtered

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Elpros,

@30 April 2002, 12:23:14 +0200 (11:23 UK time) Elpros wrote in
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 I have 5 accounts and have currently set up filters to move all
 mails from 4 accounts to inbox of my main account. However after the
 move to inbox messages are not checked against the filters. How can
 I convince them to be filtered? I have already checked Continue
 processing with other filters in those 4 accounts but it does not
 seems to help.

There is only one way. The filters should not move but should
redirect (see the available Actions) the messages to the inboxes
of the other accounts. Also, to make best use of this, you should
enable Local delivery under Network and Administration.

Moved messages are not subject to account incoming message filters
where redirected messages are.

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Re: 1.60h is evil: Vanishing message bodies

2002-04-30 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On Monday, April 29, 2002, 9:56 PM, you wrote:


ACM Yes. The S/MIME keys are different from the PGP keys. You have to go
ACM to a central authority and have them generate key pair/s for you. You
ACM can follow the tutorial found here http://www.mindquake.com.br/thebat/
ACM to set yourself up with an S/MIME key pair in TB!

so I had the CAs imported already ( according to the tutorial) but I
think I don't have a CA for this email address. AND now I have to get
back into thawte, but I just changed computers ( new DELL box) running
windows XP, and it seems to me you have to be on the same computer you
requested the CA from. ARG!



/ Paul

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Re: 1.60h

2002-04-30 Thread Tim Musson

Hey syv,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60h) Educational
to write the following on Monday, April 29, 2002 at 5:36:49 PM.
s Hi tbudl,

s What's new in 1.60h? I did not see a mention in the readme
s file.

Check out the What's New link at http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

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TB! doesn't see connections

2002-04-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Bat Folk.

  It appears that TB! doesn't recognize my modem connections
  though I may not be using the right terms as I can
  get/send erratically. Intermittently TB! 'cannot find
  server' either pop or SMTP. All settings/passwords are
  correct.

  The following events occurred between the time I was w/o
  problems  the current situation:

  (1) I began DSL service (TB! worked flawlessly)

  (2) I was having W2K problems  re-installed W2K in a new
  location, same partition

  (3) I did not un-install TB! but re-installed it to the
  same folder
  
  Looking @ Account Properties - Network - Use Account
  Specific Network Settings: *only* Connect to the Internet
  Using is available as an on/off switch. No other option
  is available. There are no choices under Dial-up Network
  Connection, etc.

  Any thoughts/suggestions/comments would be appreciated.

  TIA

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Re: 1.60h is evil: Vanishing message bodies

2002-04-30 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Monday, April 29, 2002, 11:14 PM, you wrote:

well, I think I either answered my own question, or I did the import
right, because it now shows a nice checked box, right ?

thanks,

JN Paul,

JN Also be sure you have imported your certificate into TB! Under
JN Account/Properties/General, click on the edit personal certificates
JN tab and, if necessary, import your Thawte certificate.

JN JN


JN  Allie C Martin wrote on Monday, April 29, 2002:


/ Paul



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Re: Filter strings

2002-04-30 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Roelof,

 String: Reply-To: tbudl
 Location: Kludges
 Presence: Yes

I use:

  String: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Location: Recipient
  Presence: Yes

And it has never failed since I joined the list 4 months ago.

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Re[2]: Filter strings

2002-04-30 Thread Fr van Limpt


Hallo Roelof,

Op dinsdag 30-04-02 (12:06) schreef je me:


RO I'll give you my filter.
RO There are a few things important for the filter, those are:

RO Source: Your Inbox
RO Target: Your tbudl folder

RO String: Reply-To: tbudl
RO Location: Kludges
RO Presence: Yes

RO Active: Must be checked
RO Manual only: Must not be checked

So far this is exactly what I did, with a slight difference: I
used the *whole* Reply-To address. I changed it in 'tbdul'.

RO Because it's a very specific condition, the filter can be placed on
RO top of the incoming filter list, this prevents other filters to hijack
RO the list-messages.

Do you mean by 'on top' just under the 'incoming mail' folder
in the Sorting Office?

RO The options 'Active' and 'Manual only' are very important, because a
RO non-active filter won't be run and a 'Manual Only' filter won't be run
RO automatically.

It still doesn't work ...

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Groeten,
 Fré.   

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Re: New features in v1.60c vs v1.53

2002-04-30 Thread Haico

On 30-4-2002 at 2:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Create a new folder and name it $known$.

 Where do I create that new folder?  Inside any Account?

yes.

 And all emails sent by people in my Pesonal Address book
 will be deposited in that folder -- regardless of the
 Account the email is addressed to?

If you have the Inbox-known filter turned on, in every
account, they will. Don't forget to place it at the end of
the other filters.

 You can delete it again..

 By it you mean inbox-known?

Yes.

Greetings,
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Re: Multiple accounts redirected to one Inbox and filtered

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Dave,

@30 April 2002, 08:30:18 -0400 (13:30 UK time) Dave Braze wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP There is only one way. The filters should not move but should
MDP redirect (see the available Actions) the messages to the
MDP inboxes of the other accounts.

 How does one specify a local inbox as the redirect address. The
 redirect action seems to want an actual email address?

An Inbox is a function of an account which is the target of an email
address.

 Can this be done without uploading and downloading again the
 redirected messages?

You've snipped the bit about Local delivery. That's the clue.

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Re: [Opera-users] A problem using Opera at First Union Online

2002-04-30 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Here is my reply to a message sent to me by an Online Team Leader at
First Union Online.  (I sent a copy of the message to Sue, before I
sent it to TBUDL.)


 QUOTE 

Please see my comments below.

I look forward to your solving the problem.

Thank you for your help.

  -- Dan Grunberg


Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:31:06[GMT -0400] (7:31 AM EDST) the Online Team
Leader wrote:

 I just wanted to update you. I have not received a solution to your
 problem yet. However, I have a couple of questions for you

 1) Have you tried using Internet Explorer or Netscape to view your
 checks?

I don't use Internet Explorer.

I have always been able to view my checks with Netscape Navigator.
Just to be sure, I checked again this morning (April 30). I viewed the
image of one check for which no number was shown in the list of
checks, and I viewed the image of one check for which a number was
shown in the list of checks. Yes, both of the check images were
viewable with Netscape Navigator.

I still must insist that I should be able to use Opera for all of my
online banking, not Opera for almost of it and Netscape Navigator to
view checks at First Union Online. Opera is a MUCH faster browser than
Navigator is.

By the way, Opera may be downloaded free from www.opera.com.

 Would you be willing to test using either Netscape or IE to verify
 if your checks are viewable at all? checks?

I would be happy to run any tests that you'd like me to run.

 The reason I ask, (and I understand your preference for using Opera)
 is that we do have some customers (who use IE and/or Netscape) who
 are not able to view their checks. It has nothing to do with their
 browser.

That's interesting. Your customers' not being able to view images with
both IE, Netscape, and Opera seems to indicate that there's a problem
with First Union Online rather than with the browsers.



 2) Do you use paper checks purchased through First Union, or do you
 purchase your checks from an outside vendor?

I use Versa Check forms (I get them at Staples) and I print my own
checks using the Versa Check Personal software (also available at
Staples). As a rule, all of my checks, even the checks on which the
check processing system can't seem to find the number, produce images
that are viewable with Netscape Navigator.

This morning, I went back to First Union Online using Opera. I tried
to view the same two checks that I viewed with Netscape Navigator [see
under (1) above]. Each time I tried to view a check, First Union
Online presented me with a Titanium Default Error Page message instead
of a view of the check.

My wife uses checks purchased from First Union, on her account. (Our
accounts are coupled.) I just tried to use Opera to view the image of
a check posted to her account. First Union Online presented me with a
Titanium Default Error Page message instead of a view of the check. It
would seem that who prints the check forms has nothing to do with my
problem viewing images of the checks at First Union Online.

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Re: Filter strings

2002-04-30 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 2:33:38 PM, you wrote:

FvL It still doesn't work ...

Hi Fré,

I have excatly the same filter like Reolof described and it has worked
for me. Some special interest point to re-check:
- Put it on top of you incoming mail sort list
- Check if it is looking in the Kludges
- Check presence is YES
- Check Active Marked
- check Manual only Un-Marked

Hope this helps.

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Re: 1.60h

2002-04-30 Thread Haico

On 30-4-2002 at 15:53, syv wrote:

Hi,

s What's new in 1.60h? I did not see a mention in the readme
s file.

TM Check out the What's New link at http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

 Did, and it shows what's new in 1.60 and 1.60c but I don't
 see 1.60h.

Nothing new in 1.60h. Just some bug-fixes.

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Re: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Quin Selman

Hello Lynna,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 2:36:19 AM, you wrote:


 There is one for AVG ( www.grisoft.com that I downloaded  at
 http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip

I guess it's gone. I get The requested URL /stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip
was not found on this server.

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Re: Multiple accounts redirected to one Inbox and filtered

2002-04-30 Thread David Elliott

Hello Marck

On 30 April 2002 at 11:47:48 +0100 (which was 11:47 where I live) Marck D
Pearlstone might have written

 There is only one way. The filters should not move but should redirect
 (see the available Actions) the messages to the inboxes of the other
 accounts. Also, to make best use of this, you should enable Local
 delivery under Network and Administration.

Slightly OT as it for SecureBat! but is there a way do do this in SecureBat!
as I don't have these options.

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Re[2]: Filter strings

2002-04-30 Thread Fr van Limpt


Hello Gerard!

On Tuesday 30-04-02 (15:37) you wrote:

G - Put it on top of you incoming mail sort list - Check if it
G is looking in the Kludges - Check presence is YES - Check
G Active Marked - check Manual only Un-Marked

--

In the meantime I had added a second filter (i.e. full R-To
address / kludges / yes), left it at the bottom of the list
(where it was) and it worked! I'll put it on top, just to be
sure.

Read you,
 Fré.   

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Re: [Opera-users] A problem using Opera at First Union Online

2002-04-30 Thread Clive Taylor

30 April 2002, 14:35, you wrote:

DG ere is my reply to a message sent to me by an Online Team Leader at
DG First Union Online.  (I sent a copy of the message to Sue, before I
DG sent it to TBUDL.)


DG  QUOTE 

I share your frustration with some sites not allowing Opera to browse
them but what has this to do with TB, exactly?  Wrong mailing list,
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Re[2]: Filter strings

2002-04-30 Thread Fr van Limpt


Hello Roelof!

It finally works. I combined your tips with the help of Gerard
and ...filtering is perfect now. I made a filter for outgoing
mail too, 'll see if it works as well.
  

Read you,
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Re[2]: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Kara Denizi

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Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 10:20:04, you wrote (in part):

 There is one for AVG ( www.grisoft.com that I downloaded  at
 http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip

QS I guess it's gone. I get The requested URL /stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip
QS was not found on this server.

I had essentially the same experience but believe the problem might be
that I was not able to log into the system as a authorized user.
Can't read the language and was unable to puzzle-out how to register.

Interesting that the plugin isn't available on the english language
www.ritlabs.com/the_bat site.

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Re[2]: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Marek Mikus

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Kara Denizi wrote:

  There is one for AVG ( www.grisoft.com that I downloaded  at
  http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip

 QS I guess it's gone. I get The requested URL /stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip
 QS was not found on this server.

 I had essentially the same experience but believe the problem might be
 that I was not able to log into the system as a authorized user.
 Can't read the language and was unable to puzzle-out how to register.

 Interesting that the plugin isn't available on the english language
 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat site.

plugin is in beta stage, it can't be on the official page. I removed this
file from my server, because it is old version. There is a new one, but it
is probably in Czech only, I don't know, test it.

List of changes from Beta/2 to Beta/5:

+ English Readme.txt included
+ it has its own dialog for setting
+ it is possible to set sound, when is virus detected
+ it is possible to display warning dialog, when is virus detected
+ in warning dialog is displayed name of detected virus
+ when is not AVG installed and plugin is added, error message is
  displayed on start of The Bat!

All I think, enjoy :-)

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Re: Multiple accounts redirected to one Inbox and filtered

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi David,

@30 April 2002, 15:26:22 +0100 David Elliott wrote in
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 ... Also, to make best use of this, you should enable Local
 delivery under Network and Administration.

 Slightly OT as it for SecureBat! but is there a way do do this in
 SecureBat! as I don't have these options.

D'oh! I can't find one :-(.

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Re: [Opera-users] A problem using Opera at First Union Online

2002-04-30 Thread Dave Conroy

Hi Daniel,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 2:35:28 PM, you wrote:

DG Here is my reply to a message sent to me by an Online Team Leader at
DG First Union Online.  (I sent a copy of the message to Sue, before I
DG sent it to TBUDL.)

I guess I must be dumb, but I don't see the point of this post on this
List.

BTW I use Opera for 95% of my browsing and for sites that don't like
Opera I use the latest Mozilla or IE.

Happy browsing ...
 
With best wishes,

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Re: No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@30 April 2002, 12:43:15 -0300 (16:43 UK time) Ricardo M. Reyes wrote
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MDP It's annoying, but it's not a bug. It means that the connection
MDP centre is still open and that the message is locked by a current
MDP Send task.

 I have the connection center configured to show automatically and
 it's not visible, so I guess it's not open

If you manually close the CC without successfully aborting the task it
is left open but invisible with the outgoing message still queued as a
send task. I've done it myself before now. It's the *only* reason that
message Nothing to send ever appears when there is mail in the
outbox.

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Re[2]: No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 6.25, Marck D Pearlstone decía:

 If I hit send queued mail it says nothing to send, but I can see
 the mail in the Outbox, and surely not parked.

 Now I'm really sure it's bug, and a really annoying one

MDP It's annoying, but it's not a bug. It means that the connection centre
MDP is still open and that the message is locked by a current Send task.

I have the connection center configured to show automatically and it's
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Re: Questions

2002-04-30 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:06:47[GMT  ]   (12:06 PM EDST) Deborah L
wrote:

 On 29 Apr 2002 16:4:36 +0100   Jerry wrote:

5. Is there any plan to integrate offline news viewer with the Bat? I found
Bat a s good mailer, I have yet to find a good newsreader program for the
Windows 

 I would also like this, but the only client I've tried which does both is OE - ugh.

 There's a free prog for ngs called Gravity which is pretty good - better than Agent 
etc -  very customizable.

The Opera browser (I use Opera 6.02 build 1052), which is much faster
than both IE or Netscape Navigator, has a built-in news viewer.
Opera's news viewer is very nice indeed.

Although Opera has built-in email, I much prefer TheBat!  I set my
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Re: [Opera-users] A problem using Opera at First Union Online -- I'm sorry ---

2002-04-30 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:50:52[GMT +0100]   (10:50 AM EDST) Clive Taylor
wrote:

 30 April 2002, 14:35, you wrote:

DG ere is my reply to a message sent to me by an Online Team Leader at
DG First Union Online.  (I sent a copy of the message to Sue, before I
DG sent it to TBUDL.)


DG  QUOTE 

 I share your frustration with some sites not allowing Opera to browse
 them but what has this to do with TB, exactly?  Wrong mailing list,
 perhaps?

 I'm sorry, I thought I was sending the message from my Opera folder.






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My appologies. Re: [Opera-users] A problem using Opera at First Union Online

2002-04-30 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Hi Dave and Clive

Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:17:37[GMT +0100]   (10:17 AM EDST) Dave Conroy
wrote:

 Hi Daniel,

 Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 2:35:28 PM, Dave wrote:

DG Here is my reply to a message sent to me by an Online Team Leader at
DG First Union Online.  (I sent a copy of the message to Sue, before I
DG sent it to TBUDL.)

 I guess I must be dumb, but I don't see the point of this post on this
 List.

 BTW I use Opera for 95% of my browsing and for sites that don't like
 Opera I use the latest Mozilla or IE.

Clive also complained in a similar fashion.


I was distracted, and I must have written the message in the wrong
folder.  One thing led to another and the message was sent to the
wrong list.

My apologies,

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Re: A problem using Opera at First Union Online -- I'm sorry ---

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Daniel,

@30 April 2002, 14:32:20 -0400 (19:32 UK time) Daniel Grunberg wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I'm sorry, I thought I was sending the message from my Opera
  folder.

That can mean only one thing: You're relying on folder templates.
That's a no-no!

stock lecture
I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In
150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They
are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly.

There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that
can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates.
There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when
you use AB templates.

The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in
templates which use the %TO= macro. If, at the instant you start a
new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message
gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto
without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to
excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail.

BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct
%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any
pre-existing addresses are retained.

Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to
something I've said with comments like 'danger' is a bit harsh or
I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for
me.

Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this
message yet again.

It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw.
The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make
sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended.

With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind.
Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are a bit trickier.
Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you
have to click to the right of the new message button and select the
list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is*
a favourite in the address book).
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Re: Multiple accounts redirected to one Inbox and filtered

2002-04-30 Thread Mitja Perko

Hello Marck,

Thanks! That was just what I needed. Just one more thing: Is it
possible to keep the To: field. Or add another field that would have
the value of the old To:.

I would like to be able to filter depending on the To: field (color
the message).

Best regards,
  Mitja Perko

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 12:47:48 PM, you wrote:

 There is only one way. The filters should not move but should
 redirect (see the available Actions) the messages to the inboxes
 of the other accounts. Also, to make best use of this, you should
 enable Local delivery under Network and Administration.

 Moved messages are not subject to account incoming message filters
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Bug?

2002-04-30 Thread Mitja Perko

Hello,

When redirecting messages with filter:
- local delivery on
- Send generated messages: Queue in Outbox
the delivery skips messages.

Does anyone else have this problems. Where can I report this?

Best regards,
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Re: Multiple accounts redirected to one Inbox and filtered

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@30 April 2002, 21:49:47 +0200 (20:49 UK time) Mitja Perko wrote in
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 Thanks! That was just what I needed. Just one more thing: Is it
 possible to keep the To: field. Or add another field that would have
 the value of the old To:. I would like to be able to filter
 depending on the To: field (color the message).

You could use this

 Resent-from: blah blah

to determine the source account. That may help.

Other than that, you could, instead, use forwarding and construct a
template that resets the %TO, %FROM and %SUBJECT values as required
and adds a %COMMENT to reflect the original TO address.

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Pricing

2002-04-30 Thread Michael T. Ashby

I e-mailed RIT Labs about a site licence, but I haven't head back, so
I thought I'd throw it out to the mailing list in case there are
resellers here that could help me.

I'm looking at purchasing a site licence for 15 users.


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Re: Bug?

2002-04-30 Thread Gene Gough



On the help button, feedback, bugs




Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 3:57:00 PM, Mitja wrote:

 Hello,

 When redirecting messages with filter:
 - local delivery on
 - Send generated messages: Queue in Outbox
 the delivery skips messages.

 Does anyone else have this problems. Where can I report this?

 Best regards,
   Mitja Perko


 
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Re: Bug?

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Gene,

@30 April 2002, 16:23:38 -0400 (21:23 UK time) Gene Gough wrote in
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 When redirecting messages with filter: - local delivery on - Send
 generated messages: Queue in Outbox the delivery skips messages.

 Does anyone else have this problems. Where can I report this?

 On the help button, feedback, bugs

Whoa there! Not so fast!

There's a newer, shinier, better way to report bugs these days.

http://bt.ritlabs.com is the RITlabs BugTraq server address.

The email address does still work but relies on the recipient at
RITlabs posting the report into the BugTraq server manually.

It's better first to get the issues thrashed out either here or on
TBBETA before jumping in with a firm bug report.

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Re[3]: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Lynna Lunsford

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Hello Marek,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 7:38:14 AM, you digitally penned the
following:
snip
  There is one for AVG ( www.grisoft.com that I downloaded  at
  http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip
  snip
 QS I guess it's gone. I get The requested URL
 /stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip QS was not found on this server.
  snip
 Interesting that the plugin isn't available on the english
 language www.ritlabs.com/the_bat site.
   snip
MM List of changes from Beta/2 to Beta/5:

MM Here is a link:
http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbatb5.zip

Thanks Marek, I have been using the version 2 and it has
been working fine for me. Now Downloading version 5 : ) you
know, I do not remember how I found the plugin on your site.
I speak / read english only, and so I could have sworn
that the plugin WAS featured on The Bat! web site when I
bought TB! That was one thing that sold me on TB! is that
I could continue using AVG.I do have that worldlingo.com
plugin installed in my browser but the translation is
generally 'muddled' at best. Thanks for the url.
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Address Editing

2002-04-30 Thread Nick Danger

I know you can right click on an address in the message header and add
it to the address book, but if it's already in there is there some way
to open it up for editing quickly via some mouse click or key strokes
from the header also?

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Re: Multiple accounts redirected to one Inbox and filtered

2002-04-30 Thread Gerard


ON Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 10:04:50 PM, you wrote:


MDP  Resent-from: blah blah

MDP to determine the source account. That may help.

MDP Other than that, you could, instead, use forwarding and construct a
MDP template that resets the %TO, %FROM and %SUBJECT values as required
MDP and adds a %COMMENT to reflect the original TO address.

With a re-direct you can't change anything.
What you're describing is a forward.

But here is a little trick I use. Say you want to redirect all your
mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and still be able to distinquise were they came
from. What you do is forard them to account 1[EMAIL PROTECTED] for account
one and to account 2[EMAIL PROTECTED] for account 2 ect.
You can then filter on the name.

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Re: Bug?

2002-04-30 Thread Gene Gough



And when and where was this announced?  Thanks.





Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 4:31:48 PM, Marck wrote:

 Whoa there! Not so fast!

 There's a newer, shinier, better way to report bugs these days.

 http://bt.ritlabs.com is the RITlabs BugTraq server address.

 The email address does still work but relies on the recipient at
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Re[3]: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Lynna Lunsford

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Hello Marek,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 7:38:14 AM, you digitally penned the
following:

MM On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Kara Denizi wrote:

  There is one for AVG ( www.grisoft.com that I downloaded  at
  http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip

 QS I guess it's gone. I get The requested URL
 /stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip QS was not found on this server.

MM plugin is in beta stage, it can't be on the official page. I
removed this
MM file from my server, because it is old version. There is a new
one, but it
MM is probably in Czech only, I don't know, test it.

I am wondering if / when you plan to post a english version?
The version I previously downloaded (2) from your site did
indeed have a english interface in the configuration area.
What are the benfits (if I may ask) of my using verion 2 as
opposed to version 5? Especially since, as you noted the
version 5 is in Czech only... and I can not read it without
assistance from a translator. Thank you.
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Failure to warn on unresolved nickname

2002-04-30 Thread Gene Gough

Since this never was entered into the database I would like to discuss
it a bit here before putting it in myself.  Some off-line discussions a
month or more ago indicated that perhaps the operation that I see as a
failure is actually working as designed.  If so, I feel the design is
faulty.

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.60h
  Serial Number 35D66563
  under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
If a nickname is entered into an address (TO, CC, etc) field on a
message and the user fails to tab or press the enter key while the
cursor is not in that field, the nickname is not resolved.  I
understand that is working as designed.  I would suggest that
the design is faulty.  In just too many cases I have just pressed
enter to move down or have been doing a forward and just pressed
the send key.  I understand that you may want to send to a local
net or even to your IP with just a single unresolved name letting
the IP assume (as mine does) that the proper address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually you wanted it to go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you typed the nickname and it was not resolved.

I very simple solution for this would be the ability to set a
switch in account preferences that would cause THE BAT! to warn
anytime that an attempt is made to send to an address that does
not have an @ in it.  The switch would default OFF and would not
cause any problems for current users as the default action would
be the same as it is today.


Steps to reproduce the bug:

  Type an address nickname that is not resolved in your address book
  and send it.  This assumes that you DO NOT have autocomplete turned
  on.
  
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Re: Bug?

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Gene,

@30 April 2002, 16:49:31 -0400 (21:49 UK time) Gene Gough wrote in
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 And when and where was this announced?  Thanks.

On the TBBETA list a long time ago. It's where bugs are mostly dealt
with. If you examine the TBBETA archive, you'll see the BugTraq
address in the message footer.

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Re[4]: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello all,
Tuesday, April 30, 2002, Lynna Lunsford wrote:

MM plugin is in beta stage, it can't be on the official page. I
MM removed this file from my server, because it is old version.
MM There is a new one, but it is probably in Czech only, I don't
MM know, test it.

LL I am wondering if / when you plan to post a english version?

first of all, I'm not developer of this AVG plugin. I am Czech
supporter for The Bat! and I'm cooperating with Grisoft company,
developer of AVG, which is from Czech republic.

Of course, plugin with English interface will be created, but probably
after will be released final version of plugin.

LL The version I previously downloaded (2) from your site did
LL indeed have a english interface in the configuration area.
LL What are the benfits (if I may ask) of my using verion 2 as
LL opposed to version 5? Especially since, as you noted the
LL version 5 is in Czech only...

+ English Readme.txt included
+ it has its own dialog for setting
+ plugin can be activated/deactivated (first checkbox)
+ it is possible to display warning dialog, when is virus detected
  (second checkbox)
+ it is possible to set sound, when is virus detected (field)
+ if is warning dialog doisplayed, name of detected virus is now
  displayed too
+ when is not AVG installed and plugin is added to Virus Centre, error
  message is displayed on start of The Bat!

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Re[2]: Lost Connection Centre - Please help

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 5.18, Charles Collinson decía:


 2) Edit the registry in the key:
HKCU/software/RIT/The bat/RAS height (set to 0)
  RAS left   (set to 0)

CC Thanks that sort of solved it. How and why it did this I don't know, as I
CC don't have a resolution that big. The top and left were set at 3000. Maybe
CC the RAS reg keys want altering to CC, as I didn't relate the two at the time
CC when I was looking in there earlier.

I had a similar problem a few days ago with the main window (it was
set at imposible coordinates, and therefore, invisible). The cause was
an incompatibility with a multiple desktop manager for Litestep,
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Re[2]: No parking in the outbox (was: Re-sending a failed message)

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 12.58, Marck D Pearlstone decía:

MDP It's annoying, but it's not a bug. It means that the connection
MDP centre is still open and that the message is locked by a current
MDP Send task.

 I have the connection center configured to show automatically and
 it's not visible, so I guess it's not open

MDP If you manually close the CC without successfully aborting the task it
MDP is left open but invisible with the outgoing message still queued as a
MDP send task. I've done it myself before now. It's the *only* reason that
MDP message Nothing to send ever appears when there is mail in the
MDP outbox.

well, that explains one a part of the randomness I saw in the problem:
I thought (but wasn't sure) that the message nothing to send ceased to
appear after trying a few times. I guess that was the time that the send
thread needed to finish.

ok, now the plot thickens and the bug grows bigger :-)

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Re[2]: 1.60h

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 11.19, Haico decía:

 Did, and it shows what's new in 1.60 and 1.60c but I don't
 see 1.60h.

H Nothing new in 1.60h. Just some bug-fixes.

I guess they should list the bugfixes too, don't you?

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Re: 1.60h

2002-04-30 Thread Michael Disabato

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 5:17:32 PM, Ricardo scribbled:

H Nothing new in 1.60h. Just some bug-fixes.

RMR I guess they should list the bugfixes too, don't you?

How about the new bugs? :)

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Re: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Michael Disabato

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 3:32:06 PM, Lynna scribbled:

LL Using The Bat!1.60h
LL on Windows XP

Lynna,

Ever since you started using 1.60h, your signature has displayed as
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Re: My appologies. Re: [Opera-users] A problem using Opera at First Union Online

2002-04-30 Thread Richard Evans

Hi TBUDL,
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, at 14:48:28 [GMT -0400] you wrote:
DG  One thing led to another and the message was sent to the
DG wrong list.

Thats fine but at the start of your message you actually say you sent
it to Sue before sending it to TBUDL !!
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Re: Bug?

2002-04-30 Thread Gene Gough



I have been for about six weeks now, must have missed it.  Thanks.




Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 5:09:56 PM, Marck wrote:

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 @30 April 2002, 16:49:31 -0400 (21:49 UK time) Gene Gough wrote in
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 And when and where was this announced?  Thanks.

 On the TBBETA list a long time ago. It's where bugs are mostly dealt
 with. If you examine the TBBETA archive, you'll see the BugTraq
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Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Ken Marilyn

Hello All,

This may be a little off topic but wanted to ask your opinion. I've
received several emails in the past two days that look suspicious. The
last one read:

Hello,This is a IE 6.0 patch
I hope you would enjoy it.

It had a message.htm with 136K of random characters, alphanumeric. It
also has and attached file dEv.zlo. The other messages are about the
same size but the attached files are; dEv.zl9 and author.zlq.

I haven't done anything with these files but they sure seem strange to
me.

Thanks for any input,

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Re: 1.60h is evil: Vanishing message bodies

2002-04-30 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Monday, April 29, 2002, 2:29 PM, you wrote:
glad I remembered this message. I upgraded to 160h and then all of a
sudden I started to get blank messages too. Wait, it was after I
switched PGP versions from 6.5.8 freeware to 6.5.8 ckt build07. At
least on win XP 6.5.8ckt 07 works with TB !!

thanks again !

ACM Hmmm. I'll give v1.60h a spin then and see how things work out with
ACM that option enabled.

ACM For those who don't know, you switch to MS CryptoAPI S/MIME by going
ACM to the 'Options menu' and selecting 'S/MIME..'. The option will be in
ACM the dialog that appears.

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Re: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Michael,

@30 April 2002, 17:46:50 -0500 (23:46 UK time) Michael Disabato wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ever since you started using 1.60h, your signature has displayed as
 invalid.

Valid here using the CryptoAPI.

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Re: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Ken,

@01 May 2002, 16:01:35 -0700 (00:01 UK time) Ken  Marilyn wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello,This is a IE 6.0 patch
 I hope you would enjoy it.

 It had a message.htm with 136K of random characters, alphanumeric. It
 also has and attached file dEv.zlo. The other messages are about the
 same size but the attached files are; dEv.zl9 and author.zlq.

 I haven't done anything with these files but they sure seem strange to
 me.

Discard the message. It is a virus. Then smile broadly and be thankful
that you use TB!!!

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Re[2]: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Lynna Lunsford

Hello Michael,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 2:46:50 PM, you digitally penned the following:

MD Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 3:32:06 PM, Lynna scribbled:

LL Using The Bat!1.60h
LL on Windows XP

MD Lynna,

MD Ever since you started using 1.60h, your signature has displayed as
MD invalid.

MD Mike

That may be my fault, I havent used smime in a long long
time and then I didnt use it often, I may have exported the
certificate wrong or something...You signature is showing as
valid in h for me. I did not even have my SMIME
certificate downloaded to this machine before I installed
h I just did that yesterday and was trying it out. I may
have selected the wrong format or something...sorry.
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Re: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Gene Gough



That is a virus e-mail and you may want to run your checker.  I have
been getting them since last Thursday, about 8-15 a day.  Not all the
same subject or return address.  One even had my address as the from
so you can't trust a know e-mail address as being valid. All that I
received have been caught by the Norton site where all of my mail is
filtered through.




Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 7:01:35 PM, Ken wrote:

 Hello All,

 This may be a little off topic but wanted to ask your opinion. I've
 received several emails in the past two days that look suspicious. The
 last one read:

 Hello,This is a IE 6.0 patch
 I hope you would enjoy it.

 It had a message.htm with 136K of random characters, alphanumeric. It
 also has and attached file dEv.zlo. The other messages are about the
 same size but the attached files are; dEv.zl9 and author.zlq.

 I haven't done anything with these files but they sure seem strange to
 me.

 Thanks for any input,

 KennyB
 www.runnerduck.com


 
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Re[2]: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Jody Watts

E-Mail Message
~~
From: Gene Gough
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 6:48 PM
Subject:  Strange Email
_

GG All that I
GG received have been caught by the Norton site where all of my mail is
GG filtered through.


_


What site do you use to filter you e-mail? If you have it, I would
like the URL so I could check it out.

TIA




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Re: My appologies. Re: [Opera-users] A problem using Opera at First Union Online

2002-04-30 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:26:40[GMT +0100]   (6:26 PM EDST) Richard Evans
wrote:

 Hi TBUDL,
 On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, at 14:48:28 [GMT -0400] you wrote:
DG  One thing led to another and the message was sent to the
DG wrong list.

 Thats fine but at the start of your message you actually say you sent
 it to Sue before sending it to TBUDL !!

I did send it to Sue, first.  Then I remembered that I ought to post
it on the Opera User group, where I'd discussed my problems with the
bank's site before. I always scrub names before I post on Opera's
group.

I guess I must have opened a new message in my TBUDL folder, instead
of to my Opera folder. Then I must have copied the text of the old
message to Sue to the clipboard and pasted it into the new message for
cleansing, and for addition of my having sent it to Sue first. When I
posted the new message it was addressed, per the TBUDL folder's,
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Re: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Gene Gough



You have to have a license for Norton Anti virus to make it work. The
Norton code you install on your machine provides full directions on
how to use it. I understand that this may be different with the 2002
version. I am running the 2001 version. Basically you use a Norton pop
(pop.norton.antivirus) as your pop server and you pass your USERID and
IP's pop address as parms. They fetch your mail, examine it (always
latest level of signatures) and if infected then there is the normal
dialog as what to be done, once completed the mail is forwarded to
you.




Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 7:58:07 PM, Jody wrote:

 E-Mail Message
 ~~
 From: Gene Gough
 Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 6:48 PM
 Subject:  Strange Email
 _

GG All that I
GG received have been caught by the Norton site where all of my mail is
GG filtered through.


 _


 What site do you use to filter you e-mail? If you have it, I would
 like the URL so I could check it out.

 TIA




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Re[2]: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El martes 30 de abril de 2002, a las 21.14, Gene Gough decía:

GG You have to have a license for Norton Anti virus to make it work. The
GG Norton code you install on your machine provides full directions on
GG how to use it. I understand that this may be different with the 2002
GG version. I am running the 2001 version. Basically you use a Norton pop
GG (pop.norton.antivirus) as your pop server and you pass your USERID and
GG IP's pop address as parms. They fetch your mail, examine it (always
GG latest level of signatures) and if infected then there is the normal
GG dialog as what to be done, once completed the mail is forwarded to
GG you.

don't be confused: your mail is being checked _in your machine_ , the
address pop.norton.antivirus is a fake one, that points to a local
service. The signatures used to check the emails are the ones
installed on your machine, and not necesary the latest.

The antivirus acts just like a filter between your mail program and
your mail server

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Re: TB! doesn't see connections

2002-04-30 Thread Allie C Martin

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Jan Rifkinson [JR] wrote:
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JR   Looking @ Account Properties - Network - Use Account
JR   Specific Network Settings: *only* Connect to the Internet
JR   Using is available as an on/off switch. No other option
JR   is available. There are no choices under Dial-up Network
JR   Connection, etc.

JR   Any thoughts/suggestions/comments would be appreciated.

Do you have any dialup configuration options configured on the system.
You say you're using ADSL so this may not be the case. If you do have
dialup networking objects configured then I'd suggest reinstalling TB!
for this new Win2k installation.

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Re: TB! doesn't see connections

2002-04-30 Thread John Seymour

Hello Jan,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 8:09:16 AM, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

JR Looking @ Account Properties - Network - Use Account
JR   Specific Network Settings: *only* Connect to the Internet
JR   Using is available as an on/off switch. No other option
JR   is available. There are no choices under Dial-up Network
JR   Connection, etc.

JR   Any thoughts/suggestions/comments would be appreciated.

When I changed to local area network or manual connection, I had no
more troubles. I believe that DSL even using pppoe would be a lan
connection, not dial up. When I had it set to dial up it always wanted
to dial my modem even though I was connected via DSL.HTH

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Re: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Allie C Martin

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Michael Disabato [MD] wrote:
...
MD Ever since you started using 1.60h, your signature has displayed
MD as invalid.

I now see the problem.

When using v1.60h, you have to enable MS CryptoAPI for S/MIME. All
S/MIME signatures were invalid for me.

I then remembered that I was using a fresh installation, more recent
than when I had obtained my S/MIME keys. I then opened the system
Internet Options, went to the Content section and hit the
'Certificates' button. From there, I imported my S/MIME keys and since
then all S/MIME signatures are verifying OK as they used to.

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Re: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread reclutamiento

That is the print of Klez or Exploit MIME. Not sure which one.

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All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!

2002-04-30 Thread Julius S.

Hi there, List members ,

I signed-on and purchased my entry to the bat! about 2 weeks ago.
I was expecting a  reasonable new alternative to OE.

But all I see is about 200 e-mail exchanges per day!! about PROBLEMS with TB and
hopes for better versions etc.

How can we/you spend all our time nit-picking the program of our choice every
time we sign-on to the net??

Easier for me to go back to OE and not have to read 200 questions/ day about TB. AND WE
PAID FOR TB!! While OE and NS are free.

Isn't there something wrong here guys???

Listen, I paid my money for the bat! but can't believe the research work
(hundreds of daily messages) I have
to participate in to use it. This is not a useful tool it is a JOB which I
don't need right now.  And I don't see any ending to it... just generates more
and more questions on the site.

Can we end this and get a decent product out of the bat! ?  I think we should
address our problems/questions/requests to the authors, in Russia or Belarus,
and stop trying to outguess them and provide ideas that have to be tested
every time, regardless of comments from moderators with credentials.

Let's make this work!! Ideas??
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Re: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Pat Gilbert

Ken  Marilyn
Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 8:27:28 AM, you wrote:

 It had a message.htm with 136K of random characters, alphanumeric. It
 also has and attached file dEv.zlo. The other messages are about the
 same size but the attached files are; dEv.zl9 and author.zlq.

This is undoubtedly a virus but you need not worry in this case as
your ZoneAlarm has caught and changed the extensions of the
attachments so they cannot be executed. As long as you have MailSafe
checked in your ZoneAlarm configuration, viruses like this one will be
intercepted (not ALL types though - don't forget).
 
Pat Gilbert  

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Re: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!

2002-04-30 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, at 9:36:13 PM PST, Julius S. wrote:

 Let's make this work!! Ideas??

Hello Julius,

I don't know about you, but my Bat works perfectly well for 99.9% of
what I want it to do.  In fact, most of the time, that's 100%.

I read and send many emails a day, and in addition to it having the
features I want, it's the most trouble free client I've ever used.

It has many advanced features, and yes - it's in constant development
- - so now and then there will be little bugs. The alternatives - like
OE for instance - were programmed with all sorts of lovely bloat and
bugs, and once they got it to be as efficient as possible a virus
propagation tool, they quit development. Now they just sit around and
wait until each new vulnerability is exploited, and try to patch it
(always remaining a few steps behind the exploiters of course).

I think you see so many messages here because there are so many
features that people are just learning about. There are many helpful
people here. This list has helped me get so much more out of TB! than
I could have imagined when I first started using it.

Stick around... it *is* working!  :-)

Melissa
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Re: A problem using Opera at First Union Online -- I'm sorry ---

2002-04-30 Thread Eddie Castelli

Good morning Marck,

 --- Marck D Pearlstone / Thursday, 30.04.2002, 20:44:30
A problem using Opera at First Union Online -- I'm sorry ---


 ...
 Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception
 to something I've said with comments like 'danger' is a bit harsh
 or I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong
 for me.

I agree - I've done it all the time too and it never went wrong
(almost *gg*) ;-))


 BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct
   %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any
   pre-existing addresses are retained.

I don't get this point Mark. Do you mean you should not use the
%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Macro in your Templates? Could you please
explain! 


 Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this
 message yet again.

Murphy's Law is always right!


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Re: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear Lynna, 

 --- Lynna Lunsford / Mittwoch, 01.05.2002, 01:15:03
Anti-Virus


MD Ever since you started using 1.60h, your signature has displayed
MD as invalid.

 That may be my fault, I havent used smime in a long long time and
 then I didnt use it often, I may have exported the certificate wrong
 or something...

Your eMail shows also Invalid here. The Validity of your Certificate
is until 30. April 2003.


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Re: Strange Email

2002-04-30 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear Marck, 

 --- Marck D Pearlstone / Mittwoch, 01.05.2002, 01:13:29
Strange Email


 Discard the message. It is a virus. Then smile broadly and be
 thankful that you use TB!!!

... and after deleting from Trash you better Compress the Folders!


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Re: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!

2002-04-30 Thread Steve Caine

 Can we end this and get a decent product out of the bat! ?  I think we should
 address our problems/questions/requests to the authors, in Russia or Belarus,
 and stop trying to outguess them and provide ideas that have to be tested
 every time, regardless of comments from moderators with credentials.

Julius,

I've used a huge number of mailers, starting with mail in
6th Edition Unix and various Tenex mailers, and I always
felt that Rand mh was the only true mailer.  Long ago I
transitioned to a Windows desktop, but nothing really was
able to handle the large mail volumes I'm stuck with and
the number of hats I need to wear.

I stumbled on TB! by accident a couple of months ago, and so
far it's as close to mh capability as I've ever found.  I
receive several hundred messages each day as postmaster 
hostmaster of something like 70 domains.  A large percentage
of those messages are spam.  TB!, with it's templates and
filters, makes all that at least tolerable and no other
Windows product has done that for me.

The tone and volume of the TB! mailing list is more
reminiscent of an open-source project than of a commercial
product.  IMHO, that's *good*.  The users of this product
passionately care about it and are willing to evangelize and
support it even if someone else is making some money from
licensing it.

The support you get on this mailing list is superb.  Ask a
question and you'll get *real* answers from *real* people
who have actually experienced the same problems.  You'll
find people answer your questions before you even ask them
:-) In fact, this is the first time I've posted to the list
and I've received enormous amounts of support just by
listening.

Hang in there -- TB! is a great product!

Steve.

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Re: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!

2002-04-30 Thread Lynna Lunsford

Hello Julius,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 8:36:13 PM, you digitally penned the following:

JS Hi there, List members ,

JS I signed-on and purchased my entry to the bat! about 2 weeks ago.
JS I was expecting a  reasonable new alternative to OE.

I purposefully searched for a different email client to get
away from OE or MS Outlook 2000 of which I had both
installed on my system (still do) but I was extremely
dis-satisifed with the security problems, lock-ups, and
misc. other problems of these MS email clients. So I
thought.. I will try Netscape Mail as a alternative right?
Wrong... Bad choice... So I searched the internet... and
some how I came across a link to Ritlabs/ The Bat!
I read the info. Was impressed primarily by the security (
immunity) of TB! to certain types of virus and that it does
not use the windows address book. Added to that was the
macros and templates and so many other features so I
downloaded the trial. I admit there is a learning curve to
using TB! to its fullest potential and I am still learning.
BUT I am here on this list because I want to be, not because
I have to be. I enjoy the list, I am learning I believe, at
a much faster pace because of it. AND I do believe that we
get a much better response from the moderators, developers,
programmers of TB! than one could ever expect from MS corp.
or BG himself. Sure there were some questions on the list
about the various versions. I think TB! settled those when
they posted h as the official version on the main site.
The SMIME bug complaint shows up on some systems and not on
others. Seems to have a lot to do with other software that
is running and installed most likely Norton AV. But at any
rate. I am content with TB! and will not be seeking my money
back... And after all the money I have shelled out to MS for
OS upgrades and various programs a measely $35.00 US is
nothing.  I for one believe the program is well worth the
money. Thanks TB! Staff and moderators.

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 Lynnamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re[2]: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Lynna Lunsford

Hello Eddie,

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 9:33:34 PM, you digitally penned the following:

EC Dear Lynna, 

EC  --- Lynna Lunsford / Mittwoch, 01.05.2002, 01:15:03
EC Anti-Virus


MD Ever since you started using 1.60h, your signature has displayed
MD as invalid.

 That may be my fault, I havent used smime in a long long time and
 then I didnt use it often, I may have exported the certificate wrong
 or something...

EC Your eMail shows also Invalid here. The Validity of your Certificate
EC is until 30. April 2003.

2003 would be NEXT year, as this is 2002 so the certificate
is good for a whole year yet... Not understanding why that
would show up as invalid. I just created and downloaded this
new certificate from Thawte just this week. Its hardly time
to expire as yet.
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Re: Anti-Virus

2002-04-30 Thread Eddie Castelli

Dear Lynna, 

 --- Lynna Lunsford / Mittwoch, 01.05.2002, 07:47:30
Anti-Virus


 2003 would be NEXT year, as this is 2002 so the certificate is good
 for a whole year yet... Not understanding why that would show up as
 invalid. I just created and downloaded this new certificate from
 Thawte just this week. Its hardly time to expire as yet.

Just give me an other answer but with a S/MIME Sig. After your changes
you did not sign anymore so I can't confirm for validity after your
changes


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best regards


Eddie


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