Macro to switch macros...
I have an office account which collects mail from the exchange server in the office, and a home account which collects POP3 mail from my ISP. When I'm working from home, I send all mail out via my ISP. However, I have some templates that have the %REPLYTO macro set to my office account but when I'm working from home I want that to change to that address. Is this possible? -- Stuart Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: distaster strikes :-(
Hello Januk, JA An archeological dig discovered that on Friday, February 28, 2003 at JA 08:10 GMT +0700, Jos Flachs [JF] chiseled in electrons the following: :-) JF No idea why my Bat all of a sudden requires me to log on. JA Under Options - Network and Administration, did you change any of the JA account privileges to user? If you did, you can log into TB by using JA any of your TB account names as the user name and no password. Make JA sure you use one of the accounts you did *not* change so you'll see JA all accounts. No. That is the whole problem. I didn't change anything at all. Now I can't open TB! to change it back. All accounts require me to logon. -- Best regards, Josmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! and Unicode
Hi, Is there any way to enable TB for Unicode (so as to use Unicode for writing messages and to correctly display messages written in Unicode)? Just setting a Unicode font for the Viewer will not do, as it seems. Sorry if this topic has been discussed before; I am one of those who got trapped in the Yahoo registration process and thus cannot search the archives. Thanks and kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: macro for specifying word wrap column
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi , @27-Feb-2003, 17:37 -0600 (23:37 UK time) Sean said: Hi all - is there a macro for specifying at which column lines should wrap? There isn't. You would need a reworked recursive wrap QT that worked on %TEXT instead of in %QUOTES. Perhaps you can discuss it and get some help to write it on TBTECH? It should be possible. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+XzxHOeQkq5KdzaARAlRMAKChKGsqXlRr/Lbe0aUEmlajCF6jvACeNGox pO6xp0Pfs4hPJO81kPQdCTA= =/0Q4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBBETA
I'm using 1.63 beta and wanted to ask a couple of questions so thought to join the TBBETA list. I couldn't find joining instructions on the web page so took a flyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it bounced. Can anyone tell me the necessary magic spell to get on the list? TIA -- Stuart Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: distaster strikes :-(
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi , @28-Feb-2003, 08:10 +0700 (01:10 UK time) Jos Flachs [JF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: JF Yesterday I got into some problems with my Bat: I suddenly have to submit JF username and password. No matter what username I type in, the answer is JF always 'user xyx does not exist'. JF No idea why my Bat all of a sudden requires me to log on. Who JF can help me out? First, either your account (or one of the others) has been relegated to User or a password has been assigned to it. If any of your accounts is a User then you will have to log in to the account you want to use at the start. The Username it wants is actually the name of the account. If you can type that and get in you can modify the settings in the Network and Administration. If a password has been assigned and you don't know what it it, you will have to sacrifice the account configuration settings and delete (or rename) the ACCOUNT.CFG to get in. You will then have to recreate the account settings from scratch - not so happy :-(. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+Xz49OeQkq5KdzaARAoFDAKDkyTFmw3YBOnlU2QpXsn7dDbE15wCgqVOs 2Pn8mEe4fOjjg6f+VH0T+Bc= =UcNC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Unicode
- Original Message - From: Anselm Buehling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: TB! and Unicode Hi, Is there any way to enable TB for Unicode (so as to use Unicode for writing messages and to correctly display messages written in Unicode)? Just setting a Unicode font for the Viewer will not do, as it seems. Unfortunately answer is No. The Bat! currently does not support Unicode. -- Edvinas Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBBETA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi , @28-Feb-2003, 10:37 Stuart Hemming [SH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SH I'm using 1.63 beta and wanted to ask a couple of questions so thought SH to join the TBBETA list. I couldn't find joining instructions on the SH web page so took a flyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it SH bounced. SH Can anyone tell me the necessary magic spell to get on the list? .SUB was the old address. The new one is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+Xz/5OeQkq5KdzaARAr2nAJ4p4vTLIomXCHWDIJtDfI57CwUjhACg0g04 FAS7HMfLhxLJt5dqhBDtUNI= =YFFZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBBETA
Hello Stuart, Friday, February 28, 2003, 11:37:02 AM, you wrote: SH I'm using 1.63 beta and wanted to ask a couple of questions so thought SH to join the TBBETA list. I couldn't find joining instructions on the SH web page so took a flyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it SH bounced. SH Can anyone tell me the necessary magic spell to get on the list? SH TIA If you click on the URL that is at the bottom of this message, you should find instructions on how to join and set up your system. You cold click on mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] too, but then you have not read the instructions yet... -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello James, Not easy enough for those who have to do it often. Often? Ugh! =:-( It certainly takes all kinds of people to make the world ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBBETA
Thanks Marck and Mark -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! and Unicode
Unfortunately answer is No. The Bat! currently does not support Unicode. Thanks. Anyone knows whether Unicode support is planned, then, and when we might expect it? Kind regards, Anselm __ Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 30 6950 4870 |phone +49 30 6950 4898 |fax +49 170 961 2072 |mobile Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: upgrade from 1.51 to 1.62i
hi, i think the dust is clearing ;) the test-userprofile i updatet was from an older version which indeed did not have the structure as mentioned by Mark Wieder. the users that are using v1.51 by now, all have he structure Mail/account/inbox (etc.). so i am going to try this with a more recent userprofile and will let you participate in my experiences ;) thx to Mark and Thomas, for putting me on the way alexander Alexander Jernejcic said: T Hello Jernejcic, T On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:08:10 +0100 GMT (27/02/03, 23:08 +0700 GMT), T Jernejcic Alexander wrote: are there any caveats, hints or points to information regarding an upgrade from 1.51 to 1.62? i would like to make it as painless as possible to my users. i did the upgrade on a testinstallation and it created a new folder structure beside the old folders - what i do not like to happen to my users... T I am not aware of a new folder structure between 1.51 and the current T release version. What difference did you see upon upgrading? -- Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT - 5.0 Build - 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ritlabs download
On the Bat download page, the file 'the_bat.exe' downloads and turns out to be 96 KB. It manages to come up to the Setup to Install screen. Naturally, it does not go ahead normally. Where might I find the best current version? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Use MS Exchange public folders from TheBat
Hi, Is it possible to use public folders defined in MS Exchange?? I've looked in the support archive and saw the following thread http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg31241.html dated dec 2001. At that time it didn't seem possible, has anything changed ?? regards Paul Sjoerdsma -- Paul Sjoerdsma Red Snapper b.v. Havendijk 1001 3114 EL Schiedam Netherlands +31 (0)10 4782878 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Update to 1.62 problem
I'm still running TB 1.61, but decided to update to 1.62. But I keep getting an error message when I try to install the file - it says the archive is damaged. I've downloaded the file three times, with the same result each time. The download seems to go fine, but when I try to install - can't do it. Anyone know why? -- Deborah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
On Friday, February 28, 2003, 1:58:13 PM, Adam wrote: A On the Bat download page, the file 'the_bat.exe' downloads and turns A out to be 96 KB. It manages to come up to the Setup to Install screen. A Naturally, it does not go ahead normally. A Where might I find the best current version? Basically, you may use the same site. What helped me when I had the same problem was to use a download manager instead of the standard browser downloader. -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ PGP key: 633F6D07 (1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Embedded%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Attached%20key ~~ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update to 1.62 problem
Hey Deborah, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Educational' was used to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, February 28, 2003 at 7:37:18 AM. DW I'm still running TB 1.61, but decided to update to 1.62. But I keep DW getting an error message when I try to install the file - it says DW the archive is damaged. I've downloaded the file three times, with DW the same result each time. The download seems to go fine, but when I DW try to install - can't do it. DW Anyone know why? I just did a DL, and it was about 2.4 Mb... -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) How do you make Windows faster ? Throw it harder Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update to 1.62 problem
Hey Tim, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62 Christmas Edition) Personal' was used to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, February 28, 2003 at 7:48:15 AM. TM I just did a DL, and it was about 2.4 Mb... Sorry Deborah, my reply was intended for Adam, but I just started it and it came up with the 'ready to install' splash screen. Did you get that far? -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Does the noise in my head bother you? Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Update to 1.62 problem
On Friday, February 28, 2003, 12:50:36 PM, Tim Musson wrote: TM Sorry Deborah, my reply was intended for Adam, but I just started it and TM it came up with the 'ready to install' splash screen. Did you get that TM far? You mean the screen where it says Ready to setup? Yes, I got that far. Then it goes on to say Setup status: Installing - Extracting: The Bat executable, a box pops up saying CRC error in file. There are options there to click Continue or Exit - clicking on Continue brings up another error message: Archive is damaged. After clicking OK, it continues, then I get another Archive is damaged, followed by TheBat.EXE - Application Error - The application failed to initialize properly (0xc005). Click on OK to terminate the application -- Deborah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Robert, Friday, February 28, 2003, 8:53:00 AM, you wrote: A Where might I find the best current version? RG Basically, you may use the same site. What helped me when I had the RG same problem was to use a download manager instead of the standard RG browser downloader. Probably good advice. Though the last time I tried one, Getright, IE continued to download all files. And GR just seemed to have a little icon at bottom without affect. IE should retrieve what is on the website though, shouldn't it? It took less than a second (shouldn't be that fast). But, all it said was File downloaded. No other message. I thought the downloads would be mirrored. But can't see sign of one. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Unicode
Hello Anselm, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:31:11 +0100 GMT (28/02/03, 17:31 +0700 GMT), Anselm Buehling wrote: Is there any way to enable TB for Unicode (so as to use Unicode for writing messages and to correctly display messages written in Unicode)? Just setting a Unicode font for the Viewer will not do, as it seems. No, you would also need to choose Unicodee encoding. I hope this will be implemented in TB's version 2. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Dort wo jetzt die Truemmer ragen, standen einst stolze Burgfraeuleins und warteten auf ihre ausgezogenen Ritter. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to switch macros...
Hello Stuart, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:52:31 + GMT (28/02/03, 15:52 +0700 GMT), Stuart Hemming wrote: I have an office account which collects mail from the exchange server in the office, and a home account which collects POP3 mail from my ISP. Do you check both accounts at both locations? When I'm working from home, I send all mail out via my ISP. However, I have some templates that have the %REPLYTO macro set to my office account but when I'm working from home I want that to change to that address. Is this possible? I don't think that you can detect with an IF macro which connection is being used (I assume you work on a laptop which you carry back and forth, and we are not talking about different machines). However, if you sent FROM your home account, I would assume that the reply-to is set to your home account, regardless of where you are. And the same should be true for your office account, respectively. I don't quite understand hwat you need - especially since, if you write to someone from home, he might only be replying by the time you are already in the office the next morning. What am I missing? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Corduroy pillows: They're making headlines! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Adam, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:48:34 -0330 GMT (28/02/03, 20:18 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: Probably good advice. Though the last time I tried one, Getright, IE continued to download all files. And GR just seemed to have a little icon at bottom without affect. I use Download Accelerator, it starts automatically when I click on certain file type in IE (and CrazyBrowser), and I can even type URLs directly into DA. IE should retrieve what is on the website though, shouldn't it? It took less than a second (shouldn't be that fast). But, all it said was File downloaded. No other message. What IE should or should not do, I dare not guess. However, please let us know which page exactly you are trying to download from. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, No problem. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello James Senick, On or about Friday, February 28, 2003 at 00:19:51GMT -0500 (which was 12:19 AM in the tropics where I live) James Senick posted: Export - Edit - Import. That easy :) JS Not easy enough for those who have to do it often. Easy enough for something that should not be easily done! I know this, but it is an old circular discussion Pit was referring to: Should it be possible to edit incoming messages from within TB? Pit (and others) think it shouldn't, I (and others) think it should be possible. I just wanted to keep the idea alive, as I believe it would be a nice feature (one I would use, as opposed to a scheduler g). JS The idea is very much alive here. I am still happy with TB as JS is but fully expect this feature to be added at some point. To JS me, the whole essence of TB cries for this type of manipulative JS power to be given to mail power users. The issue is the ability to modify something someone wrote in a way they never intended. One should NOT be able to modify a message without indicating PLAINLY that the original writer's message has been changed. The inability to easily do so is good for the 'sanctity' of the original poster's intentions. Most folks (like me) don't go to the trouble to verify signing keys, and accept the message as what the poster intended. I'll probably NEVER be convinced of the security of encryption schemes, and the lack of 'Big Brother' back doors to them. ;-) -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike First Rule for Corners: Slow In, Fast Out /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to remove the X-Mailer from headers???
Hello everyone, I am looking for a way to remove the x-mailer header info. I really don't need to have anyone know what mailer I am using. I understand this is a feature that is available for Eudora. Can we do this with The Bat??? Fred Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update to 1.62 problem
Hallo Deborah, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:37:18 +GMT (28-2-03, 13:37 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DW I'm still running TB 1.61, but decided to update to 1.62. But I DW keep getting an error message when I try to install the file - it DW says the archive is damaged. Might be that you have a virus infection. They've been known to corrupt archives. Do you run an up to date virus scanner? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update to 1.62 problem
Hello Deborah W, On or about Friday, February 28, 2003 at 12:37:18GMT + (which was 7:37 AM in the tropics where I live) Deborah W posted: DW I'm still running TB 1.61, but decided to update to 1.62. But I keep DW getting an error message when I try to install the file - it says the DW archive is damaged. I've downloaded the file three times, with the same DW result each time. The download seems to go fine, but when I try to DW install - can't do it. DW Anyone know why? I have found that the new iterations of most browsers can have problems with an 'HTTP' download, in that they do it incompletely. The solution that seems to work is to RIGHT CLICK the link and select 'Save Link as.' This seems to correct the problem 99% of the time. You will have to accept 'overwrite existing file' to get the full file on your system. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Illinois isn't exactly the land that God forgot -- it's more like the land He's trying to ignore. /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to remove the X-Mailer from headers???
Hello Newsacct, Friday, February 28, 2003, 4:35:10 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): I am looking for a way to remove the x-mailer header info. I really don't need to have anyone know what mailer I am using. I understand this is a feature that is available for Eudora. Can we do this with The Bat??? Go to http://www.xrayapp.com/xray/help.htm -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB does not shut down properly
When I shut down TB it *appears* to properly close but when I click on the icon to re-open it nothing happens. I discovered that TB installed itself under XP Pro as *both* an application and a service! The result is that I can't restart it unless I go in Windows Task Manager and kill it there first. I've downloaded and re-installed the latest version, did warm and cold boots, to no avail. No other program exhibit this behavior under XP (I recently had to rebuilt my PC and have installed over a dozen so far.) Any idea? Best regards, Miles Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to remove the X-Mailer from headers???
Hello Fred, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:35:10 -0500 GMT (28/02/03, 21:35 +0700 GMT), Newsacct wrote: I am looking for a way to remove the x-mailer header info. I really don't need to have anyone know what mailer I am using. I understand this is a feature that is available for Eudora. Can we do this with The Bat??? This cannot be done from within TB, but I believe it is in the wishlist. You would need to use a third-party software to remove that header. I once played with a tool called hamster for exactly this purpose, and found it pretty easy to set up. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I know you think you understood what I said, but what you heard was not what I meant. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Use MS Exchange public folders from TheBat
Hello Paul, Friday, February 28, 2003, 12:10:37 PM, you wrote: PS Is it possible to use public folders defined in MS Exchange?? I would doubt it. Public Folders on an Exchange Server can only be accessed in three ways, to my knowledge: 1. Via the proprietary Exchange RPC protocol 2. Via the NNTP protocol 3. Via the HTTP protocol NNTP and HTTP aren't The Bat!'s job, and the fact that the Exchange protocol is proprietary makes it difficult to implement. There's only one client on the market that has full support for that protocol - Microsoft Outlook. You can try using the MAPI interface to get access to parts of Exchange, but I'm not sure that Public Folders are included in that functionality. And you'd have to install Outlook anyway, to get the right MAPI version. Speaking of which, Microsoft changes MAPI almost on a whim - it is notorious amongst Windows programmers for being both buggy AND something of a moving target. NNTP would strip all the form information, so any custom folders would become useless. And it would require The Bat! to get newsreading capabilities. And HTTP would require Ritlabs to build a web browser - I'd rather they stuck to developing their already excellent mail client, myself. :-) PS At that time it didn't seem possible, has anything changed ?? Not really, and I doubt that it will - for the reasons stated above. By the way, this isn't an official answer - but as I have some experience with Exchange Server, I thought I'd chip in with my views and knowledge on the subject. I'll part with an opinion - Public Folders are probably something Microsoft wishes they could drop. They only put the feature in to Exchange Server to try and compete with Lotus Notes/Domino, and soon found that the architecture of Public Folders (and Exchange on the whole) was rather inadequate for that purpose. They've made several changes to Public Folders over the years (most notably in forms design and distribution), each of which has required companies to re-work any solutions they created with them. As a result, few companies use public folders beyond basic discussion facilities - which could easily be handled by other means. Most Exchange professionals I've ever dealt with dislike Public Folders, but it's a feature that MS have to continue offering because of all the hoopla they made when it first came out. Congratulations - you're dealing with a Microsoft Mistake every day! :-) -- Best regards, Philipmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello Spike, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:33:24 -0500 GMT (28/02/03, 21:33 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: The issue is the ability to modify something someone wrote in a way they never intended. One should NOT be able to modify a message without indicating PLAINLY that the original writer's message has been changed. I agree with this, namely that if I change an incoming message from within TB, there should be an indicator. If I export the message, change something and then import it again, there is no indicator. You are actually giving a reason *for* implementing this feature. ;-) I get emails with meaningless subjects. I want to edit those. I seldom edit the body of the message, but if it is a lengthy fullquote on top and an important but short answer at the bottom, I would find it useful. An indicator that the message was edited is very useful (necessary?) in this context, too. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When you come to a fork in the road, take it! (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to remove the X-Mailer from headers???
Hello Costas, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:42:25 +0200 GMT (28/02/03, 21:42 +0700 GMT), Costas Papadopoulos wrote: Go to http://www.xrayapp.com/xray/help.htm That is right, I mixed this up - Xray, not hamster, is the tool that does it! Sorry ... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wenn ich Sie jetzt um Sex bitten wuerde - waere Ihre Antwort die gleiche, die Sie auf diese Frage geben? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB does not shut down properly
Hello Miles, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:48:55 -0500 GMT (28/02/03, 21:48 +0700 GMT), Miles Johnson wrote: When I shut down TB it *appears* to properly close but when I click on the icon to re-open it nothing happens. I discovered that TB installed itself under XP Pro as *both* an application and a service! The result is that I can't restart it unless I go in Windows Task Manager and kill it there first. I've downloaded and re-installed the latest version, did warm and cold boots, to no avail. This has been reported by selected XP users now (not all XP users encounter this), but I don't know whether it has made it into the bug tracker yet. I suggest you report it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Der erste Tag am FKK-Strand kann fuer einen jungen Mann sehr hart werden. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Update to 1.62 problem
On Friday, February 28, 2003, 2:38:18 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: RO Might be that you have a virus infection. They've been known to RO corrupt archives. RO Do you run an up to date virus scanner? Yes - AVG runs on all email, plus a once-a-day full system check. Updates every two days, it checked for an update this morning. -- Deborah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Update to 1.62 problem
On Friday, February 28, 2003, 2:45:09 PM, Spike wrote: S I have found that the new iterations of most browsers can have S problems with an 'HTTP' download, in that they do it incompletely. It's not a problem I've come across before. I'm using Mozilla, but notice there's another thread currently running about the same problem, started by Adam, who is using IE. S The solution that seems to work is to RIGHT CLICK the link and select S 'Save Link as.' This seems to correct the problem 99% of the time. S You will have to accept 'overwrite existing file' to get the full S file on your system. Tried it - no luck. I'm still getting the same error messages. -- Deborah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hi Spike, Friday, February 28, 2003, 4:33:24 PM, you wrote: The issue is the ability to modify something someone wrote in a way they never intended. I would say that this is not always the case. In most cases I want to modify incoming message the reason is that the message is already modified and I just want to `restore' it to the state it was before that modification. Why was it modified in the first place? The most frequent source of such modifications -- for me -- is some kinds of mail filtering proxies and/or applications. Take, for example, perfect in all other aspects, despammed.com service. This is a SPAM filtering mail forwarding service. It adds `[despammed]' tag to the subject of any mail which have passed through that system. Well, actually that means that when I receive the message it is no identical to the `original' one. Why do you think an author of the message would mind if I'll strip that `[despammed]' tag? Of course if that would be the only despammed.com who adds its own tags, the problem would ceased to exist since I could contact despammed.com developers and ask them to provide an option to turn that behavior off. But this is so common to mail-lists, forum mail engines etc. to supply all kinds of the tags, that it is rather impractical to insist on modifying all of them. I think it is much more productive to adjust my own mail software for that purpose. Of course if it is possible to hack The Bat! up so that for every mail satisfying given criteria it would: 1) Export the message to external file. 2) Invoke the script provided passing the file exported. 3) Import the modified (or should I rather say `restored') mail back, replacing the `original' message. Well, I don't see any difference then except for some extra steps required compared to accomplishing the same task with imaginary built-in support. -- Pavel Kuznetsov Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 28 February 2003 16:14, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I use Download Accelerator, it starts automatically when I click on certain file type in IE (and CrazyBrowser), and I can even type URLs directly into DA. I use NetAnts. Also quite a clever download manager. - -- Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+X3XgWh2fA2M/bQcRAj55AJ95nX0YNopwUKYqOtXHFfjG+m0/fACgn66E P9wT3Ircdfb6SHCM0FLB73s= =MI99 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello Spike, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, at 09:33:24 [GMT -0500] (which was 9:33:24 AM in NY, USA) Spike wrote: Export - Edit - Import. That easy :) JS Not easy enough for those who have to do it often. Easy enough for something that should not be easily done! Point taken. But you can't veto every single possible option out of what amounts to irrational fear. The issue is the ability to modify something someone wrote in a way they never intended. One should NOT be able to modify a message without indicating PLAINLY that the original writer's message has been changed. The inability to easily do so is good for the 'sanctity' of the original poster's intentions. One most certainly should be able to modify a message. While all creations indeed do have a specific intent, you cannot impose a limit on the interpretation or organization of those creations. Once again, this argument seems to be viewed by the opposition only within the extreme confines of group postings. -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.63 Beta/7 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to remove the X-Mailer from headers???
Hello Costas, Not really what I was looking for? Does anyone know of a way to do internally? If not, are there plans to add this as a feature? Thanks, Fred Friday, February 28, 2003, 9:42:25 AM, you wrote: CP Hello Newsacct, CP Friday, February 28, 2003, 4:35:10 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): I am looking for a way to remove the x-mailer header info. I really don't need to have anyone know what mailer I am using. I understand this is a feature that is available for Eudora. Can we do this with The Bat??? CP Go to http://www.xrayapp.com/xray/help.htm Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to switch macros...
TF Do you check both accounts at both locations? No. My company's exchange server cannot be reached from outside. Similarly, I can't access my home account's pop3 server from the office. TF I assume you work on a laptop which you carry back and TF forth Indeed. TF However, if you sent FROM your home account, I would assume that the TF reply-to is set to your home account, regardless of where you are. And TF the same should be true for your office account, respectively. I don't TF quite understand hwat you need - especially since, if you write to TF someone from home, he might only be replying by the time you are TF already in the office the next morning. What am I missing? The problem comes in that I have templates associated with an address book group and I want the behaviour to change based on the account I'm sending from. -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Friday, 2/28/2003, 7:43 AM Hi James, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, at 00:19:51 [GMT -0500] (which was 9:19 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'A way to modify _incoming_ mail' JS The idea is very much alive here. I am still happy with TB as JS is but fully expect this feature to be added at some point. To JS me, the whole essence of TB cries for this type of manipulative JS power to be given to mail power users. I hope you are wrong about the feature being added. You will never convince me of a legitimate reason to modify incoming messages. E-Mail is frequently used as evidence in court cases. I do not believe any E-mail client should have that function, without a big red flag printed across the message. If you want to change them for archiving, save em to a text file. -- Your communication is greatly appreciated, Paul Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso Powered by The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to switch macros...
Hello Stuart, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:35:57 + GMT (28/02/03, 22:35 +0700 GMT), Stuart Hemming wrote: No. My company's exchange server cannot be reached from outside. Similarly, I can't access my home account's pop3 server from the office. Strange. It worked at my last company. The problem comes in that I have templates associated with an address book group and I want the behaviour to change based on the account I'm sending from. Try this (not tested): IF:%Account=work:%ReplyTo=workaccount:%ReplyTo=homeaccount -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello Paul, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:50:16 -0800 GMT (28/02/03, 22:50 +0700 GMT), Paul Wilson wrote: I hope you are wrong about the feature being added. You will never convince me of a legitimate reason to modify incoming messages. E-Mail is frequently used as evidence in court cases. But only if sender's mid and receiver's mid show the same message, isn't it? I can modify any message by exporting/editing/importing it. I do not believe any E-mail client should have that function, without a big red flag printed across the message. I am all for that red flag, or a small icon indicating that the message was edited, which I don't have in the current version. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Also, always avoid annoying alliteration. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A piece of information about Secure Bat!
* Claude Renaud writes [1]: I recently bought the Secure Bat! software and I would like to have more information about it. The features on SB! i ac read very well on the Homepage of Ritlabs. First I know that Secure bat! is based on The Bat! core but I would like to know if their are special mailing lists to discuss about its particular functionnalities ? Announcements will only be done on the SB! mailing list. And, where can we obtain the latest updates on it, latest beta versions etc? Actual is version 1.62k Do the latest functionnalities of the bat!, such as plug-in handling, are also available in Secure bat! ? Ritlabs isn't planing in the moment to actualities the SB! Version with the features of the Beta version. -- Best regards, Thomas. [1] ~ Message: 28.02.2003 @ 09:00:41 +0100 GMT mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB does not shut down properly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TF This has been reported by selected XP users now (not all XP users TF encounter this), but I don't know whether it has made it into the bug TF tracker yet. I suggest you report it. Thanks Thomas, just did that. I'm still curious to know if other users have found some kind of workaround, or if perhaps the TB people are working on a fix. Best regards, Miles Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to switch macros...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @28-Feb-2003, 22:58 +0700 (15:58 UK time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The problem comes in that I have templates associated with an address book group and I want the behaviour to change based on the account I'm sending from. TF Try this (not tested): TF IF:%Account=work:%ReplyTo=workaccount:%ReplyTo=homeaccount Close, but syntactically it should be: %IF:'%Account'='work':'%ReplyTo=workaccount':'%ReplyTo=homeaccount' - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+X4/BOeQkq5KdzaARAv2/AJ917DpnedfddIg1uX5QR56XX2Dc3wCg2mc8 YAPbHpvzPSQsJSy/7Tl7Rp8= =03/L -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Friday, 2/28/2003, 8:24 AM Hi Thomas, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, at 23:02:16 [GMT +0700] (which was 8:02 AM where I live) you wrote about: 'A way to modify _incoming_ mail' TF But only if sender's mid and receiver's mid show the same message, TF isn't it? I can modify any message by exporting/editing/importing it. I don't have a problem with that as long as it comes up with a new mid. The law enforcement trend here in the US is the impounding of all computers when a search warrant is executed. I do not agree with that policy unless it is explicit on the warrant, it is still done. Once that hard drive is not in your control, any hacker could make the mids match. That is one reason I am no longer in law enforcement. Old age being another ;) TF I am all for that red flag, or a small icon indicating that the TF message was edited, which I don't have in the current version. ;-) I guess we all get a little over confident in the security of electronic messages. Long live PGP. -- Your communication is greatly appreciated, Paul URA Redneck If U buy a new house and have to take the wheels off. Powered by The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to switch macros...
Thomas, TF Strange. It worked at my last company. It's just the way thay have things locked down here. TF IF:%Account=work:%ReplyTo=workaccount:%ReplyTo=homeaccount I assumed that there was supposed to be a leading '%' I put in the name of my work account in to the macro and created a new message from my /work/ account. The message with the value of ReplyTo set to 'homeaccount' and the message body contained the line ReplyTo=workaccount: I got exactly the same result when creating a message from my home account. -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to switch macros...
MDP %IF:'%Account'='work':'%ReplyTo=workaccount':'%ReplyTo=homeaccount' I'm getting a slightly better result than with Thomas' suggestion in that the value of 'Reply-To' is changing but there's not the spurious text in body. Unfortunately it always seems to fail the test. I've got the comparison value case perfect but it never seems to match. later Interestingly, I made my template look like this... Account=%Account ACCOUNT=%ACCOUNT END And the results, from both accounts were: Account= ACCOUNT= END I guess that explains why the test fails, but can you spot and answer the obvious question? -- Stuart Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro to switch macros...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stuart, @28-Feb-2003, 16:53 Stuart Hemming [SH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SH I guess that explains why the test fails, but can you spot and SH answer the obvious question? :-) yes. %ACCOUNTNAME is the macro you need. %ACCOUNT is used to change the current account. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+X5gxOeQkq5KdzaARAu7VAJ9TcAtiREJ06tAJEiVXa8ak4uv4ugCfTyxC yE6F9uQEnzWozCaI1DkLqW0= =p+jg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello Paul, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:38:54 -0800 GMT (28/02/03, 23:38 +0700 GMT), Paul Wilson wrote: TF But only if sender's mid and receiver's mid show the same message, TF isn't it? I can modify any message by TF exporting/editing/importing it. I don't have a problem with that as long as it comes up with a new mid. It won't. Unless I make it to. The law enforcement trend here in the US is the impounding of all computers when a search warrant is executed. I do not agree with that policy unless it is explicit on the warrant, it is still done. Once that hard drive is not in your control, any hacker could make the mids match. That is one reason I am no longer in law enforcement. Law enforcement should follow the law. Enforcing the law is an important part of democracy. If law enforcement officers go beyond the law, this is not democracy. You know the difference, but my point is that in some countries the law is not right - I don't blame the law enforcement officers (as long as they only enforce the law), but the law makers. I have issues to take up with those - qand I do it the democratic way. I don't agree with many of the things happening, but I do believe that the democratic way is the only legitimate way, at least in democratic countries (in one of which I am lucky to live). Old age being another ;) Don't we have something in common. (That's a full-stop, not a question mark.) I guess we all get a little over confident in the security of electronic messages. Long live PGP. I still doubt it is secure. g f'up2tbot -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hi Adam, on Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:28:13 -0330GMT (28.02.03, 12:58 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : A On the Bat download page, the file 'the_bat.exe' downloads and turns A out to be 96 KB. That's not enough. ;-) A Where might I find the best current version? Apart from using a download manager as already mentioned (I'd recommend this anyway!), you might try Ritlabs' FTP-server: ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe (file size is 2,508,256 bytes) -- Cheers Peter If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. Winamp currently playing: Sarah Vaughan - You Go To My Head Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello James, Export - Edit - Import. That easy :) Not easy enough for those who have to do it often. It should be fairly easy to do with PowerPro. I'll try it later or during the weekend. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello Thomas, I am not. I receive messages with non-sensical subjects. I would like to edit those. Another method. Redirect (Ctrl+E), change subject, send to Outbox and move to original folder. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Ritlabs download
On Friday, February 28, 2003, 5:50:29 PM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM Apart from using a download manager as already mentioned (I'd recommend PM this anyway!), That didn't work for me PM you might try Ritlabs' FTP-server: PM ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe (file size is PM 2,508,256 bytes) ...but that did! Thanks :-) -- Deborah now using 1.62 :-) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Update to 1.62 problem
Hey Deborah, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Educational' was used to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, February 28, 2003 at 7:59:14 AM. DW You mean the screen where it says Ready to setup? Yes, I got that DW far. Then it goes on to say Setup status: Installing - Extracting: DW The Bat executable, a box pops up saying CRC error in file. DW There are options there to click Continue or Exit - clicking on DW Continue brings up another error message: Archive is damaged. DW After clicking OK, it continues, then I get another Archive is DW damaged, followed by TheBat.EXE - Application Error - The DW application failed to initialize properly (0xc005). Click on OK DW to terminate the application Hmmm, I just dl it on another PC, and it seemed to work just fine. I got all the way to where it asked me to accept the terms of use... -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) OK, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to become eccentric. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Oh no, I can't help myself... I hope you are wrong about the feature being added. You will never convince me of a legitimate reason to modify incoming messages. E-Mail is frequently used as evidence in court cases. TF But only if sender's mid and receiver's mid show the same message, TF isn't it? I can modify any message by exporting/editing/importing it. I do not believe any E-mail client should have that function, without a big red flag printed across the message. TF I am all for that red flag, or a small icon indicating that the TF message was edited, which I don't have in the current version. ;-) Surely an answer (if there is to be one) is to add, rather than modify? If each stored message was given _extra_ fields: Subject(modified) and Body(modified), these could then be assigned to the default view by those who want them. These fields by default would only be pointers to the original fields unless modified via macros or manual edit. Just a thought, I'll shut up now. -- Nick Using TheBat!: v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello Miguel, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, at 19:18:20 [GMT +0100] (which was 1:18:20 PM in NY, USA) Miguel A. Urech wrote: Not easy enough for those who have to do it often. It should be fairly easy to do with PowerPro. I'll try it later or during the weekend. Allie was kind enough to write a filter for my needs and he gave me some side tips as well how to incorporate PowerPro into the mix. This was some time ago. But I'll dig up a link to the original in the archives if I get the chance. I didn't want to get too specific as my needs for editing incoming messages likely differ from others'. But here goes just so you understand why I'd edit a message at all. I receive many messages per month dealing with content I have to further process. As I do process this content, I like to edit the subject line (numbering and date of completion) for organizational purposes. Occasionally, I also have to refer to the originals. I can do this quickly after organizing the original messages sequentially and by date. The way I accomplish this admittedly small yet important task is to drag the original into the Outbox, double-click it, edit the subject note the original date of receipt, save it, and finally drag it back into its proper folder. It's not a particular difficult process and works fine. But it is a nuisance when dealing with multiples. Other than that, on occasion, I may take a personal message and rename the subject in the same manner. In fact, I have done this with the TB lists before to save a copy of someone's RegEx template idea for later reference. Of course I'd leave the original intact within one of the TB folders here in case I needed to reply or quote it some time in the future. -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.63 Beta/7 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello Nick, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, at 18:32:14 [GMT +] (which was 1:32:14 PM in NY, USA) Nick Dutton wrote: Surely an answer (if there is to be one) is to add, rather than modify? If each stored message was given _extra_ fields: Subject(modified) and Body(modified), these could then be assigned to the default view by those who want them. These fields by default would only be pointers to the original fields unless modified via macros or manual edit. Excellent point. I'm not sure if it would cover others' needs though. -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.63 Beta/7 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Thomas, Friday, February 28, 2003, 10:44:47 AM, you wrote: Probably good advice. Though the last time I tried one, Getright, IE continued to download all files. And GR just seemed to have a little icon at bottom without affect. TF I use Download Accelerator, it starts automatically when I click on TF certain file type in IE (and CrazyBrowser), So, it isn't running. But then you click on a file link, and its icon pops up at the bottom right? TF What IE should or should not do, I dare not guess. However, please let TF us know which page exactly you are trying to download from. I went here: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html Later, I tried downloading with Sleipnir, and it got the whole file. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sobig
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 9:16:06 PM, you wrote: RS Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 10:59:49 AM, you wrote: RS I am getting very annoyed by the existence of way too many infected RS emails with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus RS This virus causes Norton antivirus to continually put up popup alerts. RS Now the bat used to do this for Klez. Is it possible to download RS definitions to update the bats current virus detection settings or a RS patch for this purpose? You might change your Norton settings, too - I also constantly was getting the popup, and got tired of it, so changed the email scan options in Norton AV. Go Norton AV -- options -- e-mail -- and choose repair and quaraqntine or repair and silently quarantine or repair and quietly delete, whichever one you want, and that will stop that bloody popup from popping up. -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Omit needless words. Vigorous writing is concise. A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts. -William Strunk, Jr., professor and author (1869-1946) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shared folder Address Reply
Hello, i've just another litlle problem with this ! The from is now Ok with the macro %From=%OTOADDR , but I just discovered the reply-to were always the default account one ; how can I do : is there a same macro like %From=%OTOADDR for the from but this time for the reply-to ? I tried %OREPLYADDR it's not that it is without effect ! Thanks Christophe Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Good evening Marck, It was foretold that on 28-2-2003 @ 23:22:26 GMT+ (which was 0:22:26 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone would mumble: snipped a bit MDP %REM=+ MDP Name Plucker by Marck I'm not familiar with Regex but am i correct in assuming this one only works with entries from the AB? -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. The years that a woman can shed are not lost. They are added to the age of others. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello all, Friday, February 28, 2003, 7:09:47 PM, you wrote: From what I have read about this, it seems to me that if people are finding work-arounds, then mail is being altered already. It would seem sensible to allow this to be done properly, i.e. from within the programme. -- Best regards, Jimmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: upgrade from 1.51 to 1.62i
Thomas- I went from version 1.53 to 1.62 and had to move the folders myself. I remember an earlier upgrade where the files were modified automatically as part of the process, but I misremember the versions. You may well be right about some intermediate version taking care of moving the files - I usually hold off upgrading until there's some compelling reason to do so, so I haven't paid much attention to minor (and some major) versions. The only reason I'm using beta4 now is so I can do some development work on antispam filters. TF I thought there was always this MAIL folder, but I may be wrong. I TF never noticed anything when I upgraded, so I believe there was one TF version in between that automatically moved the messages. Have you any TF idea when the new folder structure started? The version introducing it TF must have an internal conversion tool, so Alexander should upgrade TF from 1.51 to that version, and then from that version to 1.62i, and TF everything will be automatic. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luc, @28-Feb-2003, 21:04 +0100 (20:04 UK time) Luc [L] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: L snipped a bit MDP %REM=+ MDP Name Plucker by Marck L I'm not familiar with Regex but am i correct in assuming this one L only works with entries from the AB? No. It is enhanced by entries in the AB but works using the current TO field contents. The actual version is: %REM=+ Name Plucker by Marck +%- %IF:%ABToLastName=list:%TOFNAME:%- %ABToNamePrefix='%ABToFirstName=#%ABofromFIRSTNAME=.%TOFNAME.#'%- %TO=%TO='%ABofromCompany=_%ABofromNAME=/%OFROMNAME/_ %TOADDR' This is called in my reply template just after the Hi bit and supplies the correct first name for the recipient as well as sorting out the to field content. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+X9OpOeQkq5KdzaARAjPbAJwK4rjcEJXq4+43gkA+UB+D282i2ACfTeEr /2Dzir1rnTYw/lxzRg7MvAo= =mIES -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error! i lost all my msg!
hello, i think that is a big BUG in The Bat!
i have Root The Bat Folder pointer to D:\IMAIL\...
not keep in my C, but have a problem, the bat show me a Not Free Space
ok, but when i finished my msg and organizeer, i closed, the bat
Compressed folders normally and then, closed OK
when i opneded again The inbox folder is completly Empty
where is my MSG, what i need to do to recovery that?
Subfolders is in there and OK, all msg is OK, but in main folder
(inbox) completly empty
what i cand do??
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Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Marck, It was foretold that on 28-2-2003 @ 21:24:56 GMT+ (which was 22:24:56 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone would mumble: snipped a bit MDP No. It is enhanced by entries in the AB but works using the current MDP TO field contents. The actual version is: :-) Thank you Marck. Have to try that one. -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. He who is always his own counsellor will often have a fool for his client. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error! i lost all my msg!
Hallo Marcelo, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:28:43 -0300GMT (28-2-03, 23:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MHSQ i have Root The Bat Folder pointer to D:\IMAIL\... not keep in MHSQ my C, but have a problem, the bat show me a Not Free Space ok, That's no bug in TB, but it looks like a resource problem. MHSQ when i opneded again The inbox folder is completly Empty MHSQ where is my MSG, what i need to do to recovery that? Check your inbox, is there still a messages.tbb file? That's the file where TB stores it's messages. There's also an accompanying messages.tbi file, deleting that might help. General precautions: 1) Run scandisk on your D:-drive 2) Defrag (optimize) your D:-drive 3) Clean your harddisks (that's remove temporary files) 4) Keep in mind that TB needs plenty free space on your mail partition and on the partition where Windows stores it's temporary files (probably C:) 5) When you're runnin low opn free spacxe, it's best to have folders with relative few messages (let's say max 5000 msgs) and set TB to purge compress on exit. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shared folder Address Reply
Hello Christophe, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:49:22 +0100 GMT (01/03/03, 02:49 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: The from is now Ok with the macro %From=%OTOADDR , but I just discovered the reply-to were always the default account one ; how can I do : is there a same macro like %From=%OTOADDR for the from but this time for the reply-to ? I tried %OREPLYADDR it's not that it is without effect ! %Reply=%OToAddr %OReply returns the Original Reply-To address, hence the letter O at the beginning. Read more about macros in the Help file; look for Macros, and then for Full Alphabetic List of Macros. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A day without fusion is like a day without sunshine. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail
Hello Miguel, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:23:09 +0100 GMT (01/03/03, 01:23 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: I am not. I receive messages with non-sensical subjects. I would like to edit those. Another method. Redirect (Ctrl+E), change subject, send to Outbox and move to original folder. You seem to know a lot of work-arounds for someone who is against adding a feature for TB to edit incoming messages directly. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Neulich ist ein Statistiker gestorben. Er hinterlaesst eine Frau und zweieinhalb Kinder. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error! i lost all my msg!
Not a bug? well, if not a bug where is my msg´s?
in my
D:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
D:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I jsut move it these 2 file to other folder (to make a backup ;-))
and open TB e nothing!
messagens no cooming! .. Empty yet!!
;-(
exist any options to prevent that ISSUES?
i losted my msg? or exist any possibility 4 recover!?!?!?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Friday, February 28, 2003, 9:27:56 PM, ;-):
RO Hallo Marcelo,
RO On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:28:43 -0300GMT (28-2-03, 23:28 +0100, where I
RO live), you wrote:
MHSQ i have Root The Bat Folder pointer to D:\IMAIL\... not keep in
MHSQ my C, but have a problem, the bat show me a Not Free Space ok,
RO That's no bug in TB, but it looks like a resource problem.
MHSQ when i opneded again The inbox folder is completly Empty
MHSQ where is my MSG, what i need to do to recovery that?
RO Check your inbox, is there still a messages.tbb file? That's the file
RO where TB stores it's messages. There's also an accompanying
RO messages.tbi file, deleting that might help.
RO General precautions:
RO 1) Run scandisk on your D:-drive
RO 2) Defrag (optimize) your D:-drive
RO 3) Clean your harddisks (that's remove temporary files)
RO 4) Keep in mind that TB needs plenty free space on your mail partition
RO and on the partition where Windows stores it's temporary files
RO (probably C:)
RO 5) When you're runnin low opn free spacxe, it's best to have folders
RO with relative few messages (let's say max 5000 msgs) and set TB to
RO purge compress on exit.
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Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Adam, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:02:03 -0330 GMT (01/03/03, 02:32 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: TF I use Download Accelerator, it starts automatically when I click on TF certain file type in IE (and CrazyBrowser), So, it isn't running. But then you click on a file link, and its icon pops up at the bottom right? The icon is in the system tray (bottom right) at all times. TF What IE should or should not do, I dare not guess. However, please let TF us know which page exactly you are trying to download from. I went here: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html Later, I tried downloading with Sleipnir, and it got the whole file. I don't know what is Sleipnir, but it does seem like there was a problem with IE, don't you think? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error! i lost all my msg!
Remeber... i deleted only D:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Friday, February 28, 2003, 9:27:56 PM, ;-):
RO Hallo Marcelo,
RO On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:28:43 -0300GMT (28-2-03, 23:28 +0100, where I
RO live), you wrote:
MHSQ i have Root The Bat Folder pointer to D:\IMAIL\... not keep in
MHSQ my C, but have a problem, the bat show me a Not Free Space ok,
RO That's no bug in TB, but it looks like a resource problem.
MHSQ when i opneded again The inbox folder is completly Empty
MHSQ where is my MSG, what i need to do to recovery that?
RO Check your inbox, is there still a messages.tbb file? That's the file
RO where TB stores it's messages. There's also an accompanying
RO messages.tbi file, deleting that might help.
RO General precautions:
RO 1) Run scandisk on your D:-drive
RO 2) Defrag (optimize) your D:-drive
RO 3) Clean your harddisks (that's remove temporary files)
RO 4) Keep in mind that TB needs plenty free space on your mail partition
RO and on the partition where Windows stores it's temporary files
RO (probably C:)
RO 5) When you're runnin low opn free spacxe, it's best to have folders
RO with relative few messages (let's say max 5000 msgs) and set TB to
RO purge compress on exit.
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Re[2]: Shared folder Address Reply
Hello Thomas, Saturday, March 1, 2003, 1:36:49 AM, you wrote: Hello Christophe, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:49:22 +0100 GMT (01/03/03, 02:49 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: The from is now Ok with the macro %From=%OTOADDR , but I just discovered the reply-to were always the default account one ; how can I do : is there a same macro like %From=%OTOADDR for the from but this time for the reply-to ? I tried %OREPLYADDR it's not that it is without effect ! %Reply=%OToAddr %OReply returns the Original Reply-To address, hence the letter O at the beginning. Read more about macros in the Help file; look for Macros, and then for Full Alphabetic List of Macros. I tried to insert this macro in reply of Edit folder properties, so I have now (I had before only the macro for the from) : %From=%OTOADDR %Reply=%OToAddr but it still keeps the reply-to of the default account ! I've missed something perhaps, sorry, Thanks Christophe -- Best regards, Christophemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: Error! i lost all my msg!
Hallo Marcelo, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:44:12 -0300GMT (1-3-03, 1:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MHSQ Not a bug? well, if not a bug where is my msg´s? A bug means that something is wrong with the program. Whereas your problem looked like to be caused by a lack of free disk space. Compare it with your car, when you're out of gas, it won't run, still the car isn't broken. MHSQ in my MHSQ D:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MHSQ D:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MHSQ I jsut move it these 2 file to other folder Well, that's wrong, you'd only had to remove the messages.tbi. The messages are stored in the messages.tbb, removing the latter will make it rather difficult to access them. The messages.tbi is just an index file and will be generated by TB on the fly. My instructions were unclear in sofar that I forgot to mention that you'd need to close down TB before doing that. MHSQ exist any options to prevent that ISSUES? i losted my msg? or MHSQ exist any possibility 4 recover!?!?!? Data loss is always a risk on computers, failing disks, viruses, failing programs. The only absolute remedy is to back-up regularly and to practise the precautions I mentioned in my previous message. In the absence of back-ups, the solution I offered is your only chance, if that fails there's no hope left. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error! i lost all my msg!
heheh OK! o losted all MSG!
the MESSAGES.TBB have only 20KB and after that space problem, the file
size aprox. 10MB!
I losted all! ok!
no problem!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Friday, February 28, 2003, 10:19:15 PM, ;-):
RO Hallo Marcelo,
RO On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:44:12 -0300GMT (1-3-03, 1:44 +0100, where I
RO live), you wrote:
MHSQ Not a bug? well, if not a bug where is my msg´s?
RO A bug means that something is wrong with the program. Whereas your
RO problem looked like to be caused by a lack of free disk space. Compare
RO it with your car, when you're out of gas, it won't run, still the
RO car isn't broken.
MHSQ in my
MHSQ D:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MHSQ D:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MHSQ I jsut move it these 2 file to other folder
RO Well, that's wrong, you'd only had to remove the messages.tbi. The
RO messages are stored in the messages.tbb, removing the latter will make
RO it rather difficult to access them. The messages.tbi is just an index
RO file and will be generated by TB on the fly.
RO My instructions were unclear in sofar that I forgot to mention that
RO you'd need to close down TB before doing that.
MHSQ exist any options to prevent that ISSUES? i losted my msg? or
MHSQ exist any possibility 4 recover!?!?!?
RO Data loss is always a risk on computers, failing disks, viruses,
RO failing programs. The only absolute remedy is to back-up regularly and
RO to practise the precautions I mentioned in my previous message.
RO In the absence of back-ups, the solution I offered is your only
RO chance, if that fails there's no hope left.
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Re: Error! i lost all my msg!
Hallo Marcelo, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:49:12 -0300GMT (1-3-03, 1:49 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MHSQ Remeber... i deleted only D:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And what were the results? BTW You're quoting my entire original message in your reply, while you're posting your own remarks at the top of the message. a) That makes it kind of hard to guess what part of my message inspired your response. b) That makes the message needlessly bigger. Take heed that some listmembers download all messages via a dial up connection and have to pay per connected time. So please trim your quotes as much as possible without losing coherence. Please reply to the message you're reacting to and not to another message in the same thread. The more I read your response, it looks like a remark caused by your own message, not mine. With TB's threading options it's possible to follow a thread correctly, so please use it as intended. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB does not shut down properly
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Miles Johnson [MJ] wrote:
MJ Thanks Thomas, just did that.
MJ I'm still curious to know if other users have found some kind of
MJ workaround, or if perhaps the TB people are working on a fix.
What other applications do you have running on your system? Have you
tried shutting down all other apps, including anti-virus agents,
firewall software, windowblinds or any other shell enhancing
software, and then trying to exit TB!?
I suspect that there's an adverse software interaction amiss.
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Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs download
Hello Thomas, Friday, February 28, 2003, 9:14:26 PM, you wrote: Later, I tried downloading with Sleipnir, and it got the whole file. TF I don't know what is Sleipnir, Sleipnir is a Chinese Web browser. Very cool looking. Colourful, though busy interface. TF but it does seem like there was a TF problem with IE, don't you think? Yeah. I just supposed there's probably technical knowledge around here to suggest what type of thing might happen. I certainly downloaded TB successfully with IE before. What type of event can a download manager keep track of that IE can't? Does IE simply take what it receives from the web server? Or is it doing some poor management or error correction, and failing to report that? Since it happened several times, error correction doesn't make much sense though. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
plugin for the bat!: vampire
Hellow tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com in http://fyberger.tripod.com/vampire/vampire.htm you can find a anti-spam plug'in for the bat! (1.63 beta 3 or earlier) Enjoy it! Warning: Body and Attachment filters support are not ready in The Bat! yet (1.63Beta7) -- Best Regards, Task Control mail: TaskControl at SoftHome dot net correo: TaskControl arroba SoftHome punto net Usando: - Windows 98 4.10.1998 - AVG 6.0 Free Edition - The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 - Trillian PRO 1.0 B Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: distaster strikes :-(
Hello Marck, Friday, February 28, 2003, 5:47:25 PM, you wrote: JF Yesterday I got into some problems with my Bat: I suddenly have to submit JF username and password. No matter what username I type in, the answer is JF always 'user xyx does not exist'. JF No idea why my Bat all of a sudden requires me to log on. Who JF can help me out? MDP First, either your account (or one of the others) has been relegated MDP to User or a password has been assigned to it. I work alone on my PC, nobody ever touches it. I didn't change the settings. 'All of a sudden' it happened. :-( Not a very good answer, but at least an honest one MDP If any of your accounts is a User then you will have to log in to MDP the account you want to use at the start. The Username it wants is MDP actually the name of the account. If you can type that and get in MDP you can modify the settings in the Network and Administration. MDP If a password has been assigned and you don't know what it it, you MDP will have to sacrifice the account configuration settings and delete MDP (or rename) the ACCOUNT.CFG to get in. You will then have to MDP recreate the account settings from scratch - not so happy :-(. Quite. :-( I have 5 accounts. If I open one of my lesser accounts that way, would I be able to change the settings? Or do I really have to mess up my main account? -- Best regards, Josmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
