multiple email addresses for one person in address book?
if one of my friends in address book has 2 or 3 email addresses and i want thebat to send all his/her addresses when i select this person as recipient, what should i do? i tried the following: 1. in address book / contact property, type his/her addresses in the email box, one per line, like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] however, when i send email to this person, only email1 is added to the recipient list (verified using F9 - source after saving to outbox as draft). 2. type all addresses in one line: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] now it is very interesting: the behavior seems to be unpredictable. sometimes it is very clear and knows to reformat it like this: john [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is perfectly valid for email transmission. however, in some curcirmstance, it turns out to be: john [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] then i got returned mail because this is a malfunctional address. 3. check address book settings auto add 2nd addr to bcc field. it seems working but not exactly what i want. so, any idea about 2? thanks -- Samson, using Agent newsreader Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:17:21 AM, you wrote: Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no Follow-up menu selection was offered. Oh well ... not a biggy to me as I can always just create a new message with new subject field content, but what Greg described seemed a very handy, dandy thing to learn to do ... but, alas, I have failed ... to comprehend something or ... Follow-up is not an option with The Bat! Version 2.0 AFAICT. You can edit the 'Follow-up' header whenever you are editing a message: 1) At the top of your editor window you see the editable headers like 'From:', 'CC:', 'Subject'. 2) If you can not find between these headers there the 'Follow-up' header, simply right-click on any of the other header titles (on the title at the left, not on the field itself). 3) The context menu which opens gives you the possibilities to show (and to hide) 12 different headers. Among them you find also the 'Follow-up' header. 4) If you click on 'Follow-up' in this context menu, the 'Follow-up' header will be shown as an editable header field like 'From:', 'CC:', 'Subject', etc. 5) In case you are writing a new message this new field will simply be empty. In case you reply or forward a message, TB will automatically put in the field the message ID of the message you reply to (or you forward) and the IDs of the other messages which have been in the 'References' header of the message you reply to (or you forward). -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail import
That's true - but I'd still like to have a way to get all my TB! email into Gmail. Putting all reasons for doing so aside - does anyone have any suggestions? thebat has redirect feature. you can redirect all mail to gmail and the original sender will be kept in the from field (quite different than forward). the only concern is that whether your SMTP server allows you to send so many emails in a short time (it looks like spamming). -- Samson, using Agent newsreader Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple email addresses for one person in address book?
Hallo Samson, On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:15:04 -0700GMT (30-6-2004, 11:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: S if one of my friends in address book has 2 or 3 email addresses and i S want thebat to send all his/her addresses when i select this person as S recipient, what should i do? There are several way to do this. 1) In the AB you enter all addresses in one entry, each address on its own line. Now you create templates in the same AB entry and in each template you enter this line %To=%To=Enter all your contact's addresses here When you've got multiple contacts to whom you'd like to send duplicate mail, you create a quick template with the general layout of the message that you call with %QInlude, but that's up to you. The reason that even though you've hardcoded the addresses in your template you're still entering all addresses in your AB-entry is that now TB can recognize all his addresses (especially convenient when he's using all addresses every now and then in his correspondence with you and you're replying.) 2) Let's say I'm one of your contacts with multiple addresses. Create an AB group called 'Roelof Otten' with the distinctive handle 'Roelof' Now create an AB entry for each of my addresses In the properties of the AB group (not the individual entries) you set this line in every template: %To=%To=Roelof list Here again, if you've got multiple contacts maintain the basic message template as a QT that you include in the different templates. The advantage of option 2 is that you don't have to alter/add/delete addresses in every template and the addresses sector when the addresses change, now you only have to change the AB entry for that particular address. The disadvantage is a bigger AB, because of your multiple entries. Note that you might get unwanted effects when your sending mail to multiple recipients while the first of your addressees in one of your multiple address contacts. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple email addresses for one person in address book?
There are several way to do this. Thanks Roelof! It is a very detailed explaination, though a little bit complicated for lazy people like me :) anyway I'll give it a try. -- Samson, using Agent newsreader Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Possible silly question
or at least I think it might be. I'd like for the Connection Centre to only appear when I want it to. I've started to use IMAP on a couple of accounts. Since I am continuously connected while on, the Connection Centre stays open. I hide it, but when pop accounts are checked again, it stays open again so I have to hide it again. I've searched high and low and even in the middle for some preference I can set to keep the Connection Centre hidden, but no luck. Any hints, pointers, advice, commiseration, etc.? BTW, I know that I can solve the problem by disconnecting from the IMAP account after synchronising, but that leads to poorer IMAP performance, at least on my machine and with my server. Or maybe I'm using IMAP all wrong. Anyway, any nudge in the right direction would be gratefully accepted. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible silly question
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004 @ 6:31:15 PM, Terry wrote: [snips] Terry I'd like for the Connection Centre to only appear when I want it to. OptionsPreferencesGeneralDisplay Connection Centre - Hide (First option under the check boxes) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) You can't think your way into acting positively, but you can act your way into thinking positively. Nido Qubein Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot display Inbox messages
Hallo Al, On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:34:55 -0700GMT (30-6-2004, 4:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ Now how do I recover the files in the old Inbox? How big is the messages.tbb of the inbox? When it's no so very big, you might have a corrupt messages.tbi that can be deleted without problems (or for safety's sake replaced to a secure location) and that might fix it. When your old inbox is very big and that wouldn't surprise me, considering the 1134 messages you mentioned that were located there, you might run into trouble. That's why I asked in my previous message how big the messages.tbb was (I'm talking MB's now, when you're in the GB ranges you're definitely in trouble) How much free space have you got on your c: drive (where your temporary files are being stored) and how much free space have you got on the drive where your message base is stored. AJ I looked in that location and found over 600 bat*.tmp files. I deleted AJ all of them plus some other tmp files I found as well. That's okay. When TB doesn't delete its own .tmp files that's a symptom of other problems, but it causes problems on its own, thus making everything worse. AJ I tried to manually compress the Inbox but the program hung up. That might be because you're out of free space to copy your messagebase. AJ When I try to exit the program it also hangs. That's probably because you've turned on compress on exit for some folders that can't be compressed anymore. When we've solved the problem, remember for the future that it's not wise to store messages permanently in a high traffic folder. Your inbox is the one folder with the most traffic, therefore it's the first one top cause problems. Of the 26500 messages in my account (I'm exaggerating, there are only 26416 of them), I've got only 58 stored in my inbox and I wouldn't lose any sleep on losing all of them. Any message that you'd like to read more than once should be moved to another folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
convert folder to common folder?
Hello TBUDL, Is it possible to convert a folder to a common folder? And if so, how? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: convert folder to common folder?
Hello Jan, On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:01:35 -0400GMT(30.06.2004, 16:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Is it possible to convert a folder to a common folder? yes And if so, how? just move the folder outside the account by Ctrl+Shift+Left -- Kind Regards, :Feli: The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: convert folder to common folder?
Hello Jan,
JR Is it possible to convert a folder to a common folder? And if
JR so, how?
Quite simple - go to account directory, find there needed folder and
move it to the mail directory.
Before:
TB! Mail directory
Account
Folder
After:
TB! Mail directory
Account
Folder
After that select any common folder and press Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L ('Find
lost folders' shortcut). TB! will find folder. After restarting it
will be common folder.
--
:9Val:
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: convert folder to common folder?
Hello Feli, FW just move the folder outside the account by Ctrl+Shift+Left Oops, programmers always find more abnormal way to do something simple ;) -- :9Val: Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unusual attachment scheme - AOL/Netscape??
Hello tbudlr's, I am running into a problem with messages posted by AOHellr's Netscape mail (so far). The attachments are posted 'inline' and with a filename of part-0123456.tmp. The files are actually *.jpg files, which I normally have extracted to a specific folder (for each group or list I am a member of). The problem is, I need a way to have TB! AUTOMATICALLY extract these files to said folder(s) and CHANGE the filename to an extension of .jpg. No matter what I have tried, TB! will NOT _recognize_ and extract these files automatically! Is there a solution or workaround?? If I can have TB! just SAVE these files, I can invoke an external renaming batch file to handle the file extension change. The problem is I have been UNABLE to have TB! save these attached files automatically. The HTML (YUCK!) version correctly displays these files AS JPG's. I still can't do anything but MANUALLY save and change the file's extension with each e-mail. This is impractical with 250-300 of them arriving in 35 filtered folders daily. I have gotten to the point where I don't even READ these messages anymore, as they are exclusively JUST file attachments. I just review the stored attachments on a semi-weekly basis. I realize this is not actually a TB! problem. It is rather a CHANGE in the 'standard' of how attached files are sent by a specific (and GROWING) segment of the cyber population! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for this dialup connection: Only a mediocre person is always at his best. /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v2.11.02 hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' on a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S703 / P4-2GHz with 1GB RAM / 120GB HDD (60GB X2) -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: convert folder to common folder?
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 9Val posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to convert folder to common folder? : JR Is it possible to convert a folder to a common folder? And if JR so, how? Quite simple FW just move the folder outside the account by Ctrl+Shift+Left Val Feli - Thanks very much for your response(s). Knew how to move folders but didn't realize that would make it true 'definition' of common folder. Simple is good. :-) Jan Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Common courtesy on threading!
Hello subscriber2list, Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 7:47:21 PM, you wrote: s I hit Reply to create a reply message and actually changed the subject s field to read This is only a test s Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no s Follow-up menu selection was offered. Oh well ... Ok. That would be different then. On mine, I can see From: at the top and these two at the bottom: Follow up: Return-path: On mine, I can see 12 header items listed in this menu. How many for you? Cyrille has revealed that this list is available in at least two places. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
problems copying Russian text from email-body
I installed TB 2.11.02 and I noticed that whenever I try select and copy some cyrillic text, and paste it anywhere, it appears as ?? I didn't face this problem with earlier versions of TB. Any workabouts to fix this ? Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problems copying Russian text from email-body
Hello spacestar, On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, at 17:50 Lithuanian Time, you wrote: sgn I installed TB 2.11.02 and I noticed that whenever I try select and copy some cyrillic text, sgn and paste it anywhere, it appears as ?? Confirmed. Exactly the same situation here. -- Edvinas Using The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Cyrille, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 5:19:14 AM, you wrote: C Hello Subscriber2list, C Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:17:21 AM, you wrote: Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no Follow-up menu selection was offered. Oh well ... not a biggy to me as I can always just create a new message with new subject field content, but what Greg described seemed a very handy, dandy thing to learn to do ... but, alas, I have failed ... to comprehend something or ... Follow-up is not an option with The Bat! Version 2.0 AFAICT. C You can edit the 'Follow-up' header whenever you are editing a C message: C 1) At the top of your editor window you see the editable headers like C'From:', 'CC:', 'Subject'. By editor window here, I assume you mean the window that resulted from my hitting the Reply selection. C 2) If you can not find between these headers there the 'Follow-up' Cheader, simply right-click on any of the other header titles C(on the title at the left, not on the field itself). I right-clicked on all of the header titles (not the fields themselves) one by one and got the same result ... a context menu did open giving me a list of 14 possibilities ... along with the option selection to Edit Headers. C 3) The context menu which opens gives you the possibilities to show C(and to hide) 12 different headers. Among them you find also the C'Follow-up' header. No Follow-up possibility was in the context menu of possibilities. Nor do I quite understand the show and hide reference, but suspect that is applicable to the newer version releases. I am using an older version of The Bat!, Version 2.0.0 (from the About option) (will have to look for specific other numbers, if needed). C 4) If you click on 'Follow-up' in this context menu, the 'Follow-up' Cheader will be shown as an editable header field like 'From:', 'CC:', C'Subject', etc. Again, not available to click on. C 5) In case you are writing a new message this new field will simply be Cempty. In case you reply or forward a message, TB will Cautomatically put in the field the message ID of the message you Creply to (or you forward) and the IDs of the other messages which Chave been in the 'References' header of the message you reply to C(or you forward). Possible of note, is I selected the Edit Headers of the context menu and it displayed The Bat! -Preferences window with Message Headers highlighted. In this window it listed all the header info that makes up the context menu and a few more. One of the headers listed, but not displayed in the context menu is Message-ID ... having entry of NO to both Address List and Editor (the other three not listed are Mailer, Date Created, Date Received). I mention Message-ID as it seems it should come into play when one changes the Subject field somehow ... if I remember correctly from reading a few other messages. Oh well ... Cyrille, thanks for your very gracious and detailed help. Pretty good steps to follow. BTW, my Dad's name was Cyrille ;) Take care, -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Common courtesy on threading!
Hello Adam, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:57:09 AM, you wrote: A Hello subscriber2list, A Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 7:47:21 PM, you wrote: s I hit Reply to create a reply message and actually changed the subject s field to read This is only a test s Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no s Follow-up menu selection was offered. Oh well ... A Ok. That would be different then. Yup. A On mine, I can see A From: A at the top A and these two at the bottom: A Follow up: A Return-path: A On mine, I can see 12 header items listed in this menu. How many for you? On my context menu I had 14 header items along with an Edit Headers option which opened up The Bat! - Preference window displaying Message Headers info. Pretty slick overall! A Cyrille has revealed that this list is available in at least two A places. Yes, I just finished reading his very thorough description and responded a wee bit ago. Thanks for your help and suggestions. -- Best Regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: convert folder to common folder?
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 8:24:41 AM, you wrote: 9Val Oops, programmers always find more abnormal way to do something 9Val simple ;) Ain't that the truth! :grin: -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Sorry MOMMY is not the USER-ID of anyone present. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list! On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:54 PM, you wrote: S Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no S Follow-up menu selection was offered Now that you've been through all the trial-and-error possibilities, I'll chime in with my experience. When I was running TB! v. 2.00.6, I had no Follow Up headers option offered anywhere. It was with considerable shock, in a long thread on tbot, that I saw Greg's handy routine. Skeptical, I gave it a try, and it did work. In fact, once I ticked the Follow Up option, that header remained in my Edit Mail Message window whenever I was replying to a message. The line was occupied by the ID display header in the View Folder window. Sometimes I untick it, just to save my viewing headers space. I think it's probably now definite that versions 2.00.0 through 2.00.6 do not contain these options. I stayed there for a long time, perfectly happy. Finally took the plunge and upgraded. That went smooth as silk--just downloaded right over my old TB! With The Bat! closed, of course. If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to all 2.xx users. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
pgpZKZo5jxhQF.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problems copying Russian text from email-body
Hello Spacestar, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 5:50:05 PM, you wrote: I noticed that whenever I try select and copy some cyrillic text, and paste it anywhere, it appears as ?? Copy from where to where? Do you mean copy from somewhere outside TB to TB or the way around or in TB? On which platform (Windows version)? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:54:48 AM, you wrote: Again, not available to click on. I think follow up would be references in version 2.00. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.00 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 7:54:48 PM, you wrote: C 3) The context menu which opens gives you the possibilities to show C(and to hide) 12 different headers. Among them you find also the C'Follow-up' header. No Follow-up possibility was in the context menu of possibilities. Nor do I quite understand the show and hide reference, but suspect that is applicable to the newer version releases. I am using an older version of The Bat!, Version 2.0.0 Oh well ... Cyrille, thanks for your very gracious and detailed help. Pretty good steps to follow. BTW, my Dad's name was Cyrille ;) I am not your Dad. But I give you the advice to upgrade to the latest version (2.11.02). Don't be afraid it does not hurt (only a little bit). P.S If your Dad had such I nice name, why did he call you 'subscriber2list' then??? (-: -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Seeking confirmation of my interpretation of Key Nomenclature ...
Howdy All I just want to confirm that I am interpreting commands that are listed in various emails correctly, as I do try them, but lots of times they don't work for me. LOL! For instance: Shift+Ctrl+L - I interpret this to mean hold down Shift+Ctrl keys and use L(eft arrow) Shift+Ctrl+R - I interpret this to mean hold down Shift+Ctrl keys and use R(ight arrow) I'm sure I'll have a few more in time ;)) Thanks in advance. -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Cyrille, snip No Follow-up possibility was in the context menu of possibilities. Nor do I quite understand the show and hide reference, but suspect that is applicable to the newer version releases. I am using an older version of The Bat!, Version 2.0.0 Oh well ... Cyrille, thanks for your very gracious and detailed help. Pretty good steps to follow. BTW, my Dad's name was Cyrille ;) C I am not your Dad. But I give you the advice to upgrade to the latest C version (2.11.02). Don't be afraid it does not hurt (only a little C bit). LMAO! Good advice, but I've never been one to have to have the latest and greatest ... only the more tested, true and stable is what I would like. Heck, The Bat! people have seemed to put out more versions in a shorter period of time than a blink of an eye! Here's hoping they don't rush too fast with all those wild and wonderful newfangle features and functionality releases as it is a very good product overall IMHO. Then again, they do have a huge number of field testers around the world, right? LOL! Your folks comments will give me a hint when to upgrade. C P.S If your Dad had such I nice name, why did he call you C 'subscriber2list' then??? (-: Well, that's a loong story, but to cut to the chase, he gave my brother the English version of Cyrille, i.e., Cyril. I use the subscriber2list handle and others to sort of figure out potentially where SPAM may come from as I subscribe to many other list as well. My name is Dirigo. Thanks again for all your help and suggestions! -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Possible silly question
On 30 June 2004 at 11:41, Mic wrote: OptionsPreferencesGeneralDisplay Connection Centre - Hide (First option under the check boxes) Thanks so much. I must have looked at the preferences 20 times and just kept passing right over it. That's what I get for doing too many things at one time! -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Mary, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:09:26 PM, you wrote: MB Hello subscriber2list! MB On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:54 PM, you wrote: S Then I displayed the View option menu of the message itself and no S Follow-up menu selection was offered MB Now that you've been through all the trial-and-error possibilities, MB I'll chime in with my experience. When I was running TB! v. 2.00.6, I MB had no Follow Up headers option offered anywhere. Oooh, thanks for the input ... you must have been chuckling there for awhile, but, Mary ... you could have saved me and others bandwidth and grey matter. LOL! Just kidding 'ya! MB It was with considerable shock, in a long thread on tbot, that I saw MB Greg's handy routine. Well, I guess I should have been over on the tbot thread, huh? I liked Greg's description of how-to and thought it a great function. He didn't chime in when I asked the initial question, so either he is/wa very busy and didn't see it or thought Hey, I don't want to rehash it. MB Skeptical, I gave it a try, and it did work. In fact, once I ticked MB the Follow Up option, that header remained in my Edit Mail Message MB window whenever I was replying to a message. The line was occupied by MB the ID display header in the View Folder window. Great! MB Sometimes I untick it, just to save my viewing headers space. Understand ... save the screen real estate. MB I think it's probably now definite that versions 2.00.0 through MB 2.00.6 do not contain these options. I think you're probably correct here. MB I stayed there for a long time, perfectly happy. Finally took the MB plunge and upgraded. That went smooth as silk--just downloaded right MB over my old TB! With The Bat! closed, of course. Well, good for you! I too am perfectly happy (within reason, that is In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering how does RIT price all these upgrades? What I mean is ... every time there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade? It would seem so, but they release so many upgrades within a short period of time, they're beginning to remind me of a few other software houses. MB If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to MB all 2.xx users. I'm not quite sure I understand ... the handy routine is free if I upgrade? Do I pay for the actual upgrade, i.e., from Version 2.00.x to Version 2.11.x? I would think so, but since I haven't been into upgrading very much, I most certainly do not know. Hey, next time you see where I'm digging myself into a hole here ... please yell a wee bit earlier and ... pull me out. Thanks, Mary. I really do appreciate your comments and what you have experienced with your past versions of The Bat! It is a good product and I do like it. Kind of a fun product to me. It opens up so many opportunities to ask so many questions. Take care. -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Terry, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:30:26 PM, you wrote: TGM Hello subscriber2list, TGM Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:54:48 AM, you wrote: Again, not available to click on. TGM I think follow up would be references in version 2.00. Not sure if this is going to work, but ... I obviously hit Reply to your original message, changed the Subject field content, selected References from the context menu which displayed a number of message numbers, deleted them and now will send this off and see ... what happens! -- Best regards, subscriber2listmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Howdy subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 8:19:55 PM, subscriber2list wrotened: subscriber2list Well, I guess I should have been over on the tbot subscriber2list thread, huh? You were asking a question about how to use the bat.. Seemed on topic for this list. subscriber2list how does RIT price all these upgrades? What I mean is subscriber2list ... every time there is a new release, does one have subscriber2list to pay for the upgrade? MB If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to MB all 2.xx users. subscriber2list I'm not quite sure I understand ... subscriber2list the handy routine is free if I subscriber2list upgrade? Do I pay for the actual subscriber2list upgrade, i.e., from Version 2.00.x subscriber2list to Version 2.11.x? I would think subscriber2list so, but since I haven't been into subscriber2list upgrading very much, I most certainly do not know. The only time i had to pay to upgrade was when the bat went from 1.xx to 2.xx. All the other times i have upgrade it has been free... it will be for you too. If you upgrade from 2.00.x to 2.11.x or even 2.12.x it is FREE. no charge. Ritlabs dont charge for these minor upgrades. They try and use these update for bug fixes and new functions. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Rohop: crashing The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Terry, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:30:26 PM, you wrote: TGM Hello subscriber2list, TGM Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:54:48 AM, you wrote: Again, not available to click on. TGM I think follow up would be references in version 2.00. I think you're right-on based upon the earlier test message I sent. I used References and esentially followed the steps enumerated by Greg (and Cyrille). I viewed the source of the outgoing modified test email and saw where those referenced Message-IDs had been removed (as I had actually deleted them from the Reference field in test message). It appeared to accomplish what Greg originally described in regards to Follow-up. Unless I hear differently young man (assuming you're younger than I) ... thanks a bunch! Note: this is a reply to your earlier message with everything in its original state except ... I have included the References field ... with the message-ids displayed. -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:42:32 PM, you wrote: Unless I hear differently young man (assuming you're younger than I) ... thanks a bunch! Only if you were born before 1960. ;-) -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.11.02 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list! On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:19 PM, you wrote: s In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering s how does RIT price all these upgrades? What I mean is ... every time s there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade? It s would seem so, but they release so many upgrades within a short period s of time, they're beginning to remind me of a few other software s houses. To cut to the chase: Anyone upgrading from a v. 1.x to a v. 2.x has to pay. (They gave the v. 1.x users a discount for awhile. Not sure if that's still in effect.) Anyone upgrading from a 2.x to a later version does *not* have to pay. Sorry about the ambiguous construction of my sentence in the post you're replying to, where I said, It's free. :) Upgrading from v. 2.00.x to any subsequent version is definitely free. Including to the latest (current) one: v. 2.11.02 I myself have had no problems using v. 2.11.02. Some people have, but they were mostly with using IMAP and I'm POP3. My copy of v. 2.11.02 has been completely reliable and stable. I just ignore the new features which I don't understand. It's entirely feasible to do that. So I don't use any Virtual Folders, and I never did use any color groups (although these were available long ago in earlier versions). The features I like are: 1) Viewing mail on the Mail Dispatcher before downloading 2) Address Book templates 3) Quick templates 4) Making filters--once a slight learning curve is mastered I would dearly love to banter with you here, but I already have too bad a reputation for long posts. I didn't hang back from this thread out of a desire to be mean. I just felt shy, in case I didn't fully understand what was being talked about. I also have a pretty good reputation for getting my foot in my mouth, here and elsewhere. :) And for rambling and getting OT. Subscriber2list, would you consider subscribing to TBOT? -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:32 PM, you wrote: TGM I think follow up would be references in version 2.00. s Not sure if this is going to work, but ... I obviously hit Reply s to your original message, changed the Subject field content, selected s References from the context menu which displayed a number of s message numbers, deleted them and now will send this off and see ... s what happens! if you go to the VIEW menu, and select follow-up, you can see all the previous messages in that thread. Removing them also removes the thread by reference capability, which makes it like a new message, not a reply. When I'm too lazy to start a new message and find the addressbook entry, I just hit reply, remove those references, and change the subject to what I want it to say :) a cheaters way to create a new message. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-0 (29.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Paul, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 12:51:00 PM, you wrote: Removing them also removes the thread by reference capability, which makes it like a new message, not a reply. Which, I assume, was the result wanted that started the original thread.~shrug~ -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.11.02 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hello Jim, On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 8:12:51 PM, you wrote in the subject: J Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me You can use a filter that looks for your mail address in the kludges. But when they used BCC or maybe an List that will not show the names, then It will go wrong. But maybe this is acceptable of you do not receive lots of mails that are send by BCC. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.11.02, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 You never have time to do it right the first time, but you always have time to do it over. To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpvt8alkWDCO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Terry! On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:55 PM, you wrote: PC Removing them also removes the thread by reference capability, PC which makes it like a new message, not a reply. TGM Which, I assume, was the result wanted that started the original TGM thread.~shrug~ But, having identified that Follow up functions like the References header (TGM: follow up would be references in version 2.00), I think it would be useful to state that to have this threading management occur as Paul said, one needs to choose Thread by References in the View menu--the Follow up choice that Paul was explaining not being apparently there (no such words) in the copy of The Bat! that subscriber2list is using. Just speaking from an old newbie's point of view. YMMV. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Terry, snip Unless I hear differently young man (assuming you're younger than I) ... thanks a bunch! TGM Only if you were born before 1960. ;-) LOL! Yup ... way back ... push 'em back ... well, may be not that far back .. 1945 or there abouts ... -- Best regards, subscriber2listmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hallo Jim, On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:12:51 -0600GMT (30-6-2004, 20:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote nothing. Even though your message was blank except for the list footer, I suggest that you could try this: Create an AB group called 'Me' Add entries to this group with all of your addresses. Create your filter: 'Rule' tab: String: . Present: Yes Location: Recipient 'Advanced' tab: Check: 'Address(es) must not be listed in Address Book' Items: 'All recipients' Search only in these groups: 'Me' Those are the conditions of your filter, the rest is up to you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 4:49:55 PM, you wrote: s Well, good for you! I too am perfectly happy (within reason, that is s In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering s how does RIT price all these upgrades? What I mean is ... every time s there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade? It s would seem so, but they release so many upgrades within a short period s of time, they're beginning to remind me of a few other software s houses. I don't think RIT is like those other software houses in that respect. But there are frequently new releases. And they go by small fractional steps in the version numbers. The seminal release last year however did request a priced upgrade. MB If you want this handy routine, you could try upgrading. It's free to MB all 2.xx users. s I'm not quite sure I understand ... the handy routine is free if I s upgrade? Do I pay for the actual upgrade, i.e., from Version 2.00.x s to Version 2.11.x? I would think so, but since I haven't been into s upgrading very much, I most certainly do not know. If you are a 1.xx series owner, then I think you would pay the upgrade price for the 2.xx series. I think just early 2.0 TB versions, such as the one you are running, were like Betas. Or final pre-releases. Maybe to try for a period. Memory is hazy. So the client you are running now is like a full glass of water, but without the cool ice, and the fresh slice of lemon. It may have some variations in routine. So I guess most of us forgot the details on that release phase. You had it right all along it was a version issue. I doubt most people would think of that when you have a list of very standardized fields or menu items. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:55 PM, you wrote: Removing them also removes the thread by reference capability, which makes it like a new message, not a reply. TGM Which, I assume, was the result wanted that started the original TGM thread.~shrug~ right. changing the subject alone is not enough, you need to remove the follow-references. Now that we all understand that, lets move on to regex expressions!! ( just kidding!! :) -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0427-0 (29.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Howdy Ben, snip BA The only time i had to pay to upgrade was when the bat went from 1.xx BA to 2.xx. All the other times i have upgrade it has been free... it BA will be for you too. If you upgrade from 2.00.x to 2.11.x or even BA 2.12.x it is FREE. no charge. Ritlabs dont charge for these minor BA upgrades. They try and use these update for bug fixes and new BA functions. Thanks for the clarification ... guess I might just upgrade sooner than I thought! ;) -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list! On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:09 PM, you wrote: TGM Only if you were born before 1960. ;-) s LOL! Yup ... way back ... push 'em back ... well, may be not that far s back .. 1945 or there abouts ... You delightful young puppy! (Have you tried View Threads by References in View/View threads by, in v. 2.00.0 yet?) Here's doddering old Mary, born c. 1927. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Mary, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:47:57 PM, you wrote: snip MB Sorry about the ambiguous construction of my sentence in the post MB you're replying to, where I said, It's free. :) Upgrading from MB v.2.00.x to any subsequent version is definitely free. Including MB to the latest (current) one: v. 2.11.02 I don't think you were ambiguous ... I just always like to confirm what I think I've read ... possibly a bad habit on my part. snip MB I just ignore the new features which I don't understand. It's entirely MB feasible to do that. So I don't use any Virtual Folders, and I never MB did use any color groups (although these were available long ago in MB earlier versions). MB The features I like are: MB 1) Viewing mail on the Mail Dispatcher before downloading MB 2) Address Book templates MB 3) Quick templates MB 4) Making filters--once a slight learning curve is mastered Thanks for the input. MB I would dearly love to banter with you here, but I already have too MB bad a reputation for long posts. Hey, bantering is an art form ... just not always desirable on an email list, so ... I'll try not to also. MB I didn't hang back from this thread out of a desire to be mean. I just MB felt shy, in case I didn't fully understand what was being talked MB about. I also have a pretty good reputation for getting my foot in my MB mouth, here and elsewhere. :) And for rambling and getting OT. Oh, sounds like me ... we could be the dynamic duo that Marck, Lief, et al wonder Why are they using The Bat! Just kidding, guys (and gals)! MB Subscriber2list, would you consider subscribing to TBOT? Do you think they'd let me? Welcome me with open arms or just think Here comes another one of those dudes? Mary, I think I just might! I'm sure I would enjoy everyone and learn a thing or two besides. P.S. Have you been trouted yet? Sounds like a great honor ... I see where one of the moderators earned such an award ... LOL! -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list! On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:30 PM, you wrote: MB Sorry about the ambiguous construction ... s I don't think you were ambiguous ... I just always like to confirm s what I think I've read ... possibly a bad habit on my part. I myself regard it as a very *good* habit. snip MB I would dearly love to banter with you here, but I already have too MB bad a reputation for long posts. s Hey, bantering is an art form ... just not always desirable on an s email list, so ... I'll try not to also. No, no, a little levity is okay here. The moderators will tell us when we need to take it to TBOT or PM. :) MB I didn't hang back from this thread out of a desire to be mean. I just MB felt shy, in case I didn't fully understand what was being talked MB about. I also have a pretty good reputation for getting my foot in my MB mouth, here and elsewhere. :) And for rambling and getting OT. s Oh, sounds like me ... we could be the dynamic duo that Marck, s Lief, et al wonder Why are they using The Bat! Just kidding, guys s (and gals)! They know why *I'm* using The Bat!--because it's absolutely the best e-mail client in the known universe! MB Subscriber2list, would you consider subscribing to TBOT? s Do you think they'd let me? Welcome me with open arms or just think s Here comes another one of those dudes? Mary, I think I just might! s I'm sure I would enjoy everyone and learn a thing or two besides. We'd be overjoyed to see you there. We don't always have 600-plus posts every day, as happened over the weekend. Just when some of us feel like partying. g Click on the URL at the bottom of this message for info. Or read your Welcome to TBUDL letter for the subscribe to address. s P.S. Have you been trouted yet? Sounds like a great honor ... I s see where one of the moderators earned such an award ... LOL! Oh, my! That was only banter. Yes, I was trouted my very first post to this list! As you can see, I survived. I think I was dead-horsed once, too. It's All in the Family! -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Mary, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 4:22:55 PM, you wrote: MB Hello subscriber2list! MB On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:09 PM, you wrote: TGM Only if you were born before 1960. ;-) s LOL! Yup ... way back ... push 'em back ... well, may be not that far s back .. 1945 or there abouts ... MB You delightful young puppy! (Have you tried View Threads by References in MB View/View threads by, in v. 2.00.0 yet?) Aaah, so I'm a young whipper-snapper, huh? LOL! Anyway ... to stay on The Bat! topic, No, I have not as of yet tried View Threads by References (am almost sure at one time or another I have - but didn't really understand what the true effect/result of my actions was at the time - you know ... I was just pushing the buttons or making various selections to see what would happen, i.e., how stable The Bat! was/is!), but promise to do so. MB Here's doddering old Mary, born c. 1927. :) Well, I think you're a pretty sharp lady myself. I've read some of your prior comments in earlier emails ... you've got spirit, gumption ... you're tough ... keep it up! -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Mary, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 4:44:19 PM, you wrote: snip s Oh, sounds like me ... we could be the dynamic duo that Marck, s Lief, et al wonder Why are they using The Bat! Just kidding, guys s (and gals)! Aaaah, gsh! Do you think Lief is gonna git me? My fast fat fingers misspelled his name ... shame on me, shame on me, shame on me. Sorry, Leif ... I hope this doesn't mean you'll not help me in the near future ... I figure you will in the far future as our memories tend to fade ... MB They know why *I'm* using The Bat!--because it's absolutely the best MB e-mail client in the known universe! Well, that's a very strong statement, but I think I can agree with it with some reservations. MB Subscriber2list, would you consider subscribing to TBOT? s Do you think they'd let me? Welcome me with open arms or just think s Here comes another one of those dudes? Mary, I think I just might! s I'm sure I would enjoy everyone and learn a thing or two besides. MB We'd be overjoyed to see you there. We don't always have 600-plus MB posts every day, as happened over the weekend. Just when some of us MB feel like partying. g Aaah, noch eins! MB Click on the URL at the bottom of this message for info. Or read your MB Welcome to TBUDL letter for the subscribe to address. Will do. snip -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 3:16:06 PM, you wrote: subscriber2list Aaaah, gsh! Do you think Lief is gonna git me? subscriber2list My fast fat fingers misspelled his name ... shame on subscriber2list me, shame on me, shame on me. Sorry, Leif ... I hope subscriber2list this doesn't mean you'll not help me in the near subscriber2list future ... I figure you will in the far future as subscriber2list our memories tend to fade ... You're toast bud!!! :grin: -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Always remember that you are unique, just like everyone else. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Seeking confirmation of my interpretation of Key Nomenclature ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello subscriber2list, On 30 June 2004, 14:33 -0400 (19:33 local time) subscriber2list [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S I just want to confirm that I am interpreting commands that are S listed in various emails correctly, as I do try them, but lots of S times they don't work for me. LOL! What are you trying to do? S Shift+Ctrl+L - I interpret this to mean hold down Shift+Ctrl keys S and use L(eft arrow) CtrlShiftLeft arrow is how I'd write that. This closes a thread when message list is selected (same as CtrlShift-). It only works when you view messages by thread _and_ the message starts the thread or a branch (the [+] icon.) The same combination will move a folder left if the account tree is selected. CtrlShiftL toggles the log viewer (or whatever it's called) at the bottom of the main TB! window. S Shift+Ctrl+R - I interpret this to mean hold down Shift+Ctrl keys S and use R(ight arrow) As above, but will expand thread or indent a folder. I'm not aware that CtrlShiftR does anything. - -- As ever, :Martin_Webster: Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQOMwjTknq5PWREYNEQIi4gCfddJhVjTyR9oZSXV2mQvhcFybdB8AoKyS a6GHSE9DHtxl4PibPjbzY/ap =9KQd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
url and mailto problem
Hi All, This is a strange one, unless TB! v2 added something I don't know about. A friend of mine would like to include his website url and email address in all new and replied to emails so that simply by double clicking on them the right action occurs. I told him to add them to his New message and Reply template. After doing so, he sent me a test email and everything looked OK. Both the website address and mailto were highlighted and worked, BUT only in the text only mode of the viewer (I use TB! v1.62). Once I clicked on the message.htm tab. Both the url and mailto turned into plain text and became unclickable. Just to make sure it wasn't my version of TB!, I fired up a copy of TB! v2 (set to html only) and had the same problem. Any suggestions, solutions would be greatly appreciated. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:11:36 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Jim, On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:12:51 -0600GMT (30-6-2004, 20:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote nothing. Even though your message was blank except for the list footer, I suggest that you could try this: Sorry, I was trying to recreate the table in HTML. What I have in the filter definition is: Strings LocationPresence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient No projo.com SenderNo yahoogroups.com SenderNo After I have pulled out lists destined for other folders, I want any message without my address not from either projo.com or yahoogroups.com to be placed in the junk folder. When this filter runs, everything from yahoogroups goes to the Junk folder. What am I doing wrong? Or is this entirely the wrong approach? Thank you. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpqhGCcpyKwQ.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Leif, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 5:20:26 PM, you wrote: LG Hello subscriber2list, snip LG You're toast bud!!! :grin: LOL! -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: url and mailto problem
Hello Nick, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 4:08:18 PM, you wrote: Nick After doing so, he sent me a test email and everything looked Nick OK. Both the website address and mailto were highlighted and Nick worked, BUT only in the text only mode of the viewer (I use TB! Nick v1.62). Once I clicked on the message.htm tab. Both the url and Nick mailto turned into plain text and became unclickable. Did he preface them with http:// and mailto: i.e. instead of: www.pcwize.com , put http://www.pcwize.com and for e-mail, instead of: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , put mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Collecting $$$ to give Barney a 1-way ticket to Jurassic Park. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: url and mailto problem
Hello Leif, Thank you for your response! Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 6:38:47 PM, you wrote: LG Did he preface them with http:// and mailto: For the url, he did preface them with http://. For the email address he just entered the [EMAIL PROTECTED] As I said, this only happens in the html viewer of TB!. The text only viewer renders everything properly. I would be happy to forward or re-direct his message if that would be any help. Again, thank you for the suggestion. Best regards, Nick Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Seeking confirmation of my interpretation of Key Nomenclature ...
Hey Martin, Thank you so much for responding! Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 5:28:41 PM, you wrote: MW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MW Hash: SHA1 MW Hello subscriber2list, MW On 30 June 2004, 14:33 -0400 (19:33 local time) subscriber2list [S] in MW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S I just want to confirm that I am interpreting commands that are S listed in various emails correctly, as I do try them, but lots of S times they don't work for me. LOL! MW What are you trying to do? LOL! You know .. sometimes I wonder what I'm trying to do myself! No, seriously, I had been reading some of the emails to the list and they make reference to this sequence of keys or that sequence of keys. Most of the time, what is described makes sense to me, but sometimes ... I guess a senior moment ... a few of them don't. The darn problem is when I thought I would submit this question I couldn't find the messages I had been reading within a reasonable amount of time, so ... I make up these combo's, thinking I was reiterating what I had read. It's possible someone had actually written: ShiftCtrl+Left or something similar. I started wondering what they might have meant by Left ... Well, I will continue to search for specifics and resubmit my question then. Sorry for any inconvenience ... hopefully, little. snip -- Best regards, subscriber2list Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: url and mailto problem
Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 6:48:17 PM, Nick wrote: NO For the url, he did preface them with http://. For the email address NO he just entered the [EMAIL PROTECTED] As I said, this only NO happens in the html viewer of TB!. The text only viewer renders NO everything properly. I did some quick tests and if you want the URL to show as a clickable link in the HTML viewer use the HTML editor and use the Link button that appears in the HTML editor to create the link. -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Rogue Smileys - Bug or as Intended?
Hello All, Has anyone that views html messages (so that smileys are visible) noticed that some letters enclosed in parens sometimes, but not always, appear as smileys. For example, in an incoming message Open Paren b Close Paren (b) shows up as a beer mug, Open Paren c Close Paren (c) looks like a cup of coffee, and Open Paren f Close Paren (f) maybe a plate with a fork. When you look at the source of the incoming message, the letters are lower case. If you copy and paste the smiley, the letters are upper case. If you are viewing this in html, then you probably see the smileys. With respect to the outgoing email it doesn't seem to matter if you type an uppercase or lowercase letter. If it is a bug and hasn't been reported, I'll be happy to report it, but where. Is that a problem with respect to HTML rendering or HTML editor? I would assume the former, because it is an unintended result from an incoming message, that also happens in an outgoing message. I will be so happy when they finally fix all of the HTML problems. What a pain. -- Best regards, Rusty Farabee Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Smileys - Bug or as Intended?
Hello Russell! On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 8:31 PM, you wrote: RLF I will be so happy when they finally fix all of the HTML RLF problems. What a pain. With regard to the letters in parentheses showing up as smileys, this was extensively discussed with the creator of the smiley functionality, 9Val. I read about it while lurking on tbbeta. It is his intention to fix these--indeed they may already have been fixed in a beta release later that the current full release. It is very interesting to lurk on tbbeta. You do not have to be running a beta to subscribe there. Click on the link to Silverstones that is at the bottom of every post to tbudl. Oh, what the heck, I'll post it in the body of my reply: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html There will be a highly visible button to use for subscribing to tbbeta. I think perhaps the programmers are concentrating on getting IMAP running well, in this cycle. But I have seen them say they are trying to fix all the other things that bother users, as well. It's that TB! is a work in progress. Fundamentally though, don't you like it? -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unusual attachment scheme - AOL/Netscape??
Hello again tbudler's, One additional comment on this troubling matter. It is also quite impossible to forward these 'abnormal' messages in a way that includes the images using TB! for the forwarded message. As I don't have any other mail client installed (including MS Outhouse/Express), I can't test it with them. I won't allow such crapware to be resident on any system I am responsible for :-) For me, it's The Bat! or forget it. I'm a bit surprised at the total lack of a response to my query thus far. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Radioactive halibut (or TROUT!) will make fission chips. /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v2.11.02 hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' on a Toshiba Satellite 5205-S703 / P4-2GHz with 1GB RAM / 120GB HDD (60GB X2) -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: Rogue Smileys - Bug or as Intended?
On Thu 1 July 2004, 11:31:18 +1000, Russell L. Farabee wrote: Has anyone that views html messages (so that smileys are visible) noticed that some letters enclosed in parens sometimes, but not always, appear as smileys. For example, in an incoming message Open Paren b Close Paren (b) shows up as a beer mug, Open Paren c Close Paren (c) looks like a cup of coffee, and Open Paren f Close Paren (f) maybe a plate with a fork. Not a bug, nor a problem with HTML rendering. The display of smileys is separate from HTML rendering. It is done locally, on your system. The new smiley functionality looks for certain character combinations, and replaces them with images stored in with your TB! program. The instructions to translate, for example, (b) as a beer mug or :-) as the smile icon are found in the PDSF.msl file found in Program Files\The Bat!\images (or some similar location on your system). PDSF.msl is a text file that you can edit as you please. The lines in this file that instruct TB! to render (b) (c) and (f) as you noted probably look like this: Smiley = .\beer.gif, 0, (_)3 (B) (b) :beer:, beer Smiley = .\coffee.gif, 0, (C) (c) :coffee:, coffee Smiley = .\lunch.gif, 0, (F) (f) :lunch:, lunch If you edit these lines to read Smiley = .\beer.gif, 0, :beer:, beer Smiley = .\coffee.gif, 0, :coffee:, coffee Smiley = .\lunch.gif, 0, :lunch:, lunch Then open TB! (or close and reopen it if not already closed) you will find the problem you described has been removed. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Thu 1 July 2004, 15:06:20 +1000, Jan Rifkinson wrote: [new msg IDT template] , Was that an oops I didn't mean to send that moment? :) -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unusual attachment scheme - AOL/Netscape??
On Thu 1 July 2004, 0:35:26 +1000, Spike wrote: I am running into a problem with messages posted by AOHellr's Netscape mail (so far). The attachments are posted 'inline' and with a filename of part-0123456.tmp. The files are actually *.jpg files, which I normally have extracted to a specific folder (for each group or list I am a member of). The problem is, I need a way to have TB! AUTOMATICALLY extract these files to said folder(s) and CHANGE the filename to an extension of .jpg. No matter what I have tried, TB! will NOT _recognize_ and extract these files automatically! I assume that you store attachments in the message bodies not in a separate file. If the file has the name part-0123456.tmp in the email, TB! won't recognise it as a JPEG even if that is noted within the email like this: A94C3E2EE16FAA Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=part-0123456.tmp Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=part-0123456.tmp Strictly speaking, that is not a bug, but it would certainly be a desirable feature to have TB! read the Content-Type header and display graphics files accordingly. Is there a solution or workaround?? If I can have TB! just SAVE these files, I can invoke an external renaming batch file to handle the file extension change. The problem is I have been UNABLE to have TB! save these attached files automatically. The best approach I can think of would be to create a filter to save the attachments to a particular directory. This could be a manual one, activated by a hotkey, or it could automatically act on all messages from relevant mailing lists. You could add this as an action to the filters that already act on these messages perhaps? I realize this is not actually a TB! problem. I think TB! could do a better job of recognising the type of attachment than it does. That would certainly help since then you would see a separate tab in the email, and you could view the JPEG file in that. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
