Re: Connection Center in IMAP
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:25:13 +0700 GMT (25-Oct-19, 13:25 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Stuart, > On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:28:03 -0500 GMT (23-Oct-19, 18:28 +0700 GMT), > Stuart Cuddy wrote: >> Hello Thomas, >> Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 11:35:20 PM, you wrote: For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when something else than IDLE happens. How do I achieve that? >>> Any advice? >> I don't think it is possible. Or at least I have never found a way. > Bummer. I'll put it into the wishlist. Here it is: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1887 -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center in IMAP
Hello Stuart, On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:28:03 -0500 GMT (23-Oct-19, 18:28 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: > Hello Thomas, > Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 11:35:20 PM, you wrote: >>> For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and >>> then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the >>> connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when >>> something else than IDLE happens. >>> How do I achieve that? >> Any advice? > I don't think it is possible. Or at least I have never found a way. Bummer. I'll put it into the wishlist. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9.12 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center in IMAP
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 11:35:20 PM, you wrote: >> For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and >> then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the >> connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when >> something else than IDLE happens. >> How do I achieve that? > Any advice? I don't think it is possible. Or at least I have never found a way. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center in IMAP
Hello TBUDL, On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 08:30:13 +0700 GMT (27-Sep-19, 8:30 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hi TBUDL, > I have installed my first IMAP account. So far so good. > Under Workspace / Connection Center, the CC is set to show > Automatically, which for POP means that it shows when checking and > then disappears (hides) again. > For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and > then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the > connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when > something else than IDLE happens. > How do I achieve that? Any advice? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center in IMAP
Hi TBUDL, I have installed my first IMAP account. So far so good. Under Workspace / Connection Center, the CC is set to show Automatically, which for POP means that it shows when checking and then disappears (hides) again. For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when something else than IDLE happens. How do I achieve that? -- Thanks, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9.12 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: account properties and connection center
Hello Peter, SD 1. It's much easier if you can add a dropdown menu or something else MSD in account properties for changing different account quickly/directly without MSD having to close the account properties first. You're so right! Thank you for bringing it up. I put it on the wishlist to get the developers' attention. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6023 Added supporting note :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.85.03 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: account properties and connection center
Hi M, on Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:11:26 +0700GMT (06.09.2006, 05:11 +0200GMT here), you wrote: SD 1. It's much easier if you can add a dropdown menu or something else MSD in account properties for changing different account quickly/directly without MSD having to close the account properties first. You're so right! Thank you for bringing it up. I put it on the wishlist to get the developers' attention. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6023 -- Cheers Peter Don't humanize computers. They hate that! Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: account properties and connection center
Hello MFPA, Hi On Wednesday 6 September 2006 at 4:11:26 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], M Sulchan Darmawan wrote: 1. It's much easier if you can add a dropdown menu or something else in account properties for changing different account quickly/directly without having to close the account properties first. I find that feature very useful in Sorting Office / Filters. I miss it when referring to properties of multiple Accounts but I seldom do that. If you were to put this on the wish list and post a link here I would support. Ditto :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.80.06 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: account properties and connection center
Hallo M, On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:11:26 +0700GMT (6-9-2006, 5:11 , where I live), you wrote: MSD I have a little suggestion to the function of the bat! I'm MSD sorry if I post to the wrong list since I do not know where I should MSD do it, so I just put Off Topic (OT) in the subject. It's not off topic at all, since both your questions concern TB and that's the only requirement for messages posted here. MSD But if you found that this function is useful for you, please MSD forward my request to the right list. The best place for feature requests is the wish list, you can add or support feature requests there yourself. After making a a feature request, you could post a direct link to this list, just to get it supported by fellow list members. How do you add entries to the wish list? Here follows a canned text: You can insert wishes in the wish list, by logging in to: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php Choose 'The Bat! wishes' and add a new item. First check whether someone has made the same wish, then you can support that wish. Wishes that are supported by more users are more likely to be granted than wishes by one. And the system isn't smart enough to understand that wishes might be the same. And add just one wish per entry. Makes everything easier, both for other users who want to add support and for the developers. -- Groetjes, Roelof What do you mean, you formatted the cat?!? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpf2XQno0hoO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: account properties and connection center
Hi On Wednesday 6 September 2006 at 4:11:26 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], M Sulchan Darmawan wrote: 1. It's much easier if you can add a dropdown menu or something else in account properties for changing different account quickly/directly without having to close the account properties first. I find that feature very useful in Sorting Office / Filters. I miss it when referring to properties of multiple Accounts but I seldom do that. If you were to put this on the wish list and post a link here I would support. -- Best regards, MFPA The One with The Answer is seldom asked The Question Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: account properties and connection center
Dear all, I have a little suggestion to the function of the bat! I'm sorry if I post to the wrong list since I do not know where I should do it, so I just put Off Topic (OT) in the subject. But if you found that this function is useful for you, please forward my request to the right list. 1. It's much easier if you can add a dropdown menu or something else in account properties for changing different account quickly/directly without having to close the account properties first. 2. Is it possible to have an option to keep download process still visible in connection center after it's finished downloading ? So we can check easily/directly whether an account successfully downloaded or not. Both question is helpful when you have more than 3 e-mail accounts. That's all, Thank you. -- Regards, MS Darmawan ___ Using The Bat! v3.80.06 Send instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger.yahoo.com Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
Hello Peter, On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:36:06 +0200 GMT (16/04/2005, 00:36 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: zzc Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when finished? zzc And there are 3 choices: Yes, No and Abort. I tried both No and Abort; zzc and get the same result -- nothing. How do I find out what tasks are zzc active? And does any of those 3 choices let me terminate whatever tasks zzc are active and Exit The Bat!? PM I remember this quite well from the 2.x series, the reason I don't PM exactly know. I can't remember when I saw it last, so it seems to me a PM bug that was fixed in the 3.x cycle. Different experience anyone? Same exprerience: I had this problem in v2, but not in v3 any more. Yes: Exits after download is complete. No: Completes download, but doesn't exit. Abort: Aborts download and exits. To find out which tasks are active, I focus the Download Manager. As desired. Using XP Pro Sp2. -- Cheers, Thomas. In an office: WOULD THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE STEP LADDER YESTERDAY PLEASE BRING IT BACK OR FURTHER STEPS WILL BE TAKEN. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
Hi On Sunday 17 April 2005 at 7:36:34 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: To find out which tasks are active, I focus the Download Manager. Where is the Download Manager? -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Center
zzc [I ended up terminating The Bat via a Ctrl+Alt+Del.] PM I remember this quite well from the 2.x series, the reason I don't PM exactly know. I can't remember when I saw it last, so it seems to me a PM bug that was fixed in the 3.x cycle. Different experience anyone? It is reproducible. If TB hangs at one of your account's download, and you abort, it does the same at me, also. That window is not possible to be dismissed. Vili - Hungarian TB! dealer Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: Connection Center)
Hallo The, On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:53:35 +0200GMT (16-4-2005, 21:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TBS to be dismissed. TBS Vili - Hungarian TB! dealer TBS TBS Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out The. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof A vote on the tally sheet is worth two in the box. The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp07g8MshEQ6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center
It used to be that the Connection Center would go away when it finished downloading all messages. I don't know what I did, but it now stays there after finish downloading. How do I get it back to the way it was before? Thanks in advance -- JM Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
z5worg, On 15-04-2005 09:48, you [zzc] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: zzc How do I get it back to the way it was before? PreferencesGeneralDisplay Connection Centre = Automatically. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
Friday, April 15, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It used to be that the Connection Center would go away when it finished downloading all messages. I don't know what I did, but it now stays there after finish downloading. I try to Exit The Bat!; and I get this message: Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when finished? And there are 3 choices: Yes, No and Abort. I tried both No and Abort; and get the same result -- nothing. How do I find out what tasks are active? And does any of those 3 choices let me terminate whatever tasks are active and Exit The Bat!? [I ended up terminating The Bat via a Ctrl+Alt+Del.] How do I get it back to the way it was before? Thanks in advance Thanks in advance -- JM Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Center
Friday, April 15, 2005, Peter Fjelsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: z5worg, On 15-04-2005 09:48, you [zzc] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: zzc How do I get it back to the way it was before? PreferencesGeneralDisplay Connection Centre = Automatically. That is the setting I have. It may have something to do that it believes that the download is not finished -- although I don't see any connection open -- resulting in my not able to exit The Bat! Thanks in advance -- Using The Bat! 2.12.00 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
Hi z5worg, on Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:00:15 -0400GMT (15.04.2005, 10:00 +0200GMT here), you wrote: zzc I try to Exit The Bat!; and I get this message: zzc Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when finished? zzc And there are 3 choices: Yes, No and Abort. I tried both No and Abort; zzc and get the same result -- nothing. How do I find out what tasks are zzc active? And does any of those 3 choices let me terminate whatever tasks zzc are active and Exit The Bat!? zzc [I ended up terminating The Bat via a Ctrl+Alt+Del.] I remember this quite well from the 2.x series, the reason I don't exactly know. I can't remember when I saw it last, so it seems to me a bug that was fixed in the 3.x cycle. Different experience anyone? -- Cheers Peter A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Center
zzc And there are 3 choices: Yes, No and Abort. I tried both No and Abort; zzc and get the same result -- nothing. I'm on TB 3 something and get its till occasionally. I came to the conclusion that there are a whoe number of processes goin on as far as TB thinks and that each time 'abort' is clicked, one stops. Eventually I find it gets to a point where I click it sometimes 20 or 30 times and then TB closes. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Paul, On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:14:32 +0100 GMT (14/10/2004, 00:14 +0700 GMT), Paul White wrote: I sometime update any outstanding bug reports of mine, saying :still not fixed in the current version v Every time you update a bug report, it will be sent to the developer it was assinged to. PW Only if it has already been assigned to a developer, far too many bugs PW don't even get that far, most of mine haven't. That's weird, because the bugs are assigned to developers automatically by category. Please post an example of your most favourite bug (URL) and I will ask Alexander Leschinsky. PW Obscure bugs, those seen by only a few users and those that seem PW to be specific to Windows 95/98 will be the last to be fixed. Obviously, I run Win98, and I report bugs if I find them. I also receive response. The Connection Center (which is mentioned in the subject) was my pet peeve for a while, and all the bugs have been fixed. So, don't give up! :-) That said, Win98 has indeed seen its best days, and it may really be specific to your system... -- Cheers, Thomas. If you don't pay your exorcist, you get repossessed. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1 RC7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
On Thursday, 14 October 2004 at 13:56 (UK time), Thomas Fernandez said: That's weird, because the bugs are assigned to developers automatically by category. No, not always, some are but some aren't. Please post an example of your most favourite bug (URL) and I will ask Alexander Leschinsky. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3076 - has been at feedback status since July. Someone actually confirmed that it is happening in 3.0.1.33 yesterday so may be its status will now progress. This bug *was* reproducible by Ritlabs as they replied to my e-mail to say so. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3863 - despite two confirmations and a screenshot it is still at the 'new' status. I admit not a 'show-stopper' but it does illustrate my point. So neither were automatically assigned to a developer. Thanks for taking the time to reply. -- Paul White Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 (Home) on Windows 98 (4.10.1998) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Paul, On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:25:08 +0100 GMT (14/10/2004, 20:25 +0700 GMT), Paul White wrote: Please post an example of your most favourite bug (URL) and I will ask Alexander Leschinsky. PW https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3076 - has been at feedback status PW since July. Alexander has assigned the Feedback status. So he is aware of it. As it is about IMAP, I cannot comment further. PW Someone actually confirmed that it is happening in 3.0.1.33 PW yesterday so may be its status will now progress. This bug *was* PW reproducible by Ritlabs as they replied to my e-mail to say so. Since you have an email reply, don't worry about the missing assigned info. PW https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3863 - despite two confirmations PW and a screenshot it is still at the 'new' status. I admit not a PW 'show-stopper' but it does illustrate my point. Yeah, this one should have the status confirmed. Actually the TBBETA user reported a question mark rather than a vertical line was me. However, this is something I couldn't care less about. It is a minor cosmetical glitch. Let them work on the IMAP thing, I won't write to Alexander about this. PW So neither were automatically assigned to a developer. I know what you are saying, they are not automatically assigned. I was mistaken about that. Maybe they are only automatically assigned when the severity is set higher? -- Cheers, Thomas. The tides are a fight between the Earth and moon. All water tends towards the moon, because there is no water in the moon, and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins in this fight. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1 RC7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
On Thursday, 14 October 2004 at 13:56 (UK time), Thomas Fernandez said: The Connection Center (which is mentioned in the subject) was my pet peeve for a while, and all the bugs have been fixed. So, don't give up! I've now seen the Connection Centre hang at least six times since this thread started. As *both* my PCs suffer from this problem I'm not convinced it is specific to my system. I'll monitor this to see if I can work out why the CC is hanging. Sometimes it appears to stick with the standard message that says something like Importing mail and the progress bar stays at 100%. Sometimes checking mail again results in the CC closing properly, other times it stays open. There is certainly a wide variation of results that I see here all relating to the CC not closing as it should. -- Paul White Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 (Home) on Windows 98 (4.10.1998) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Paul, On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:21:58 +0100 GMT (13/10/2004, 00:21 +0700 GMT), Paul White wrote: Now when I notice that the fetch connection hangs and I try to either abort or delete the task, the line containing that task disappears from the CC but I can't close TB. TB claims that there are still tasks active. PW I've just experienced something similar in version 3.0.1 which PW should be released very soon. I've had this problem for several PW years now. A bug which *must* be fixed. Have you reported it on TBBETA? - I haven't yet read the 140 messages that came in today, but Rit would be interested. FWIW this bug was fixed for me a long time ago. -- Cheers, Thomas. Wer mit seinem Latein am Ende ist, sollte eine andere Sprache lernen. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1 RC7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
On Wednesday, 13 October 2004 at 17:08 (UK time), Thomas Fernandez said: Have you reported it on TBBETA? - I haven't yet read the 140 messages that came in today, but Rit would be interested. FWIW this bug was fixed for me a long time ago. Thomas, I'm not a regular on TBBETA really, as I often just lurk and read the list via the web archive. I've seen various reports, perhaps not all of them, to suggest that this has been fixed or that the cause is a corrupt message base. The Connection Centre doesn't hang so often here but as I've recently switched PCs for Internet access that statement does not really mean anything but it *does* still happen. If I mention it on TBBETA all I will get is a string of 'Not confirmed' messages so what is the point? If I add it to the Bug Tracker it probably won't go beyond the 'New' status, I have several bugs outstanding, one since July, that no-one has updated with even an acknowledgement, confirmation or denial. It *does* happen here but I cannot make it happen and I cannot say why it is happening, it just does and probably has with every release since version 1.4x. Yes, I get very annoyed when the Connection Centre hangs but I think I recall an message from one of the programmers denying that such a bug still exists so now I just live with it. -- Paul White Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 (Home) on Windows 98 (4.10.1998) with BayesIt! 0.7.3 and MyMacros 1.11a Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Paul, On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:40:14 +0100 GMT (13/10/2004, 23:40 +0700 GMT), Paul White wrote: Have you reported it on TBBETA? PW Thomas, I'm not a regular on TBBETA really, [...] If I mention it PW on TBBETA all I will get is a string of 'Not confirmed' messages PW so what is the point? I don't get your meaning. If it is a bug that bugs you, you need to report it, otherwise it will never get fixed. Even if most users can't confirm it, the developers will take notice. And maybe someone will confirm and add more info to it. PW If I add it to the Bug Tracker it probably won't go beyond the PW 'New' status, I have several bugs outstanding, one since July, PW that no-one has updated with even an acknowledgement, confirmation PW or denial. I sometime update any outstanding bug reports of mine, saying :still not fixed in the current version v Every time you update a bug report, it will be sent to the developer it was assinged to. PW It *does* happen here but I cannot make it happen and I cannot say why it PW is happening, It may be a bug in TB, or it may be specific to your system. In any case, if you don't report it, you will never get a solution. -- Cheers, Thomas. A boiled egg in the morning is hard to beat. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1 RC7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
On Wednesday, 13 October 2004 at 18:01 (UK time), Thomas Fernandez said: I sometime update any outstanding bug reports of mine, saying :still not fixed in the current version v Every time you update a bug report, it will be sent to the developer it was assinged to. Only if it has already been assigned to a developer, far too many bugs don't even get that far, most of mine haven't. It may be a bug in TB, or it may be specific to your system. In any case, if you don't report it, you will never get a solution. I honestly believe that both my PCs which run Windows 98 have seen their best days now. I continue to report bugs but only those I think have a chance of being fixed. Obscure bugs, those seen by only a few users and those that seem to be specific to Windows 95/98 will be the last to be fixed. -- Paul White Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 (Home) on Windows 98 (4.10.1998) with BayesIt! 0.7.3 and MyMacros 1.11a Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hallo Thomas, On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 12:08:37, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Have you reported it on TBBETA? - I haven't yet read the 140 messages that came in today, but Rit would be interested. FWIW this bug was fixed for me a long time ago. I use a release version and am not subscribed to TBBETA. Where can I report a bug so that a developer will actually know about it? Roman -- I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. -- Hunter S. Thompson Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Roman! On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 6:49 PM, you wrote: TF Have you reported it on TBBETA? - I haven't yet read the 140 TF messages that came in today, but Rit would be interested. FWIW TF this bug was fixed for me a long time ago. RK I use a release version and am not subscribed to TBBETA. Where can I RK report a bug so that a developer will actually know about it? Go to this site: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php Sign up for a new account. Write your password down and keep it in a safe place--it's really hard to make this work a second time if you forget your password. Log in. Then choose Report Issue. If you are not logged in, you don't have that option. Only View Issues, and some others. In Choose Project, there's a drop-down menu. I find it best to select, The Bat. Now, this is important: I didn't find any instruction on how to go forward from there. By trial and error, I found that I had to click Select Project twice in succession before the page would change and give me the page with the form on it for writing up a New Issue, whether Wish or Bug. So, go see if you can get that far. If the rest is not intuitive to you, come back here to tbudl and ask your questions about it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.1.33 (Professional Edition) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Roman! On Monday, October 11, 2004, 10:05 PM, you wrote: MB You have described the behavior perfectly. It's a bug. RK [...] MB No help for it. You will have to do it that way, I think. :( RK And will stay one. ARGH! I'm sorry. :woe: NB Then you might want to solve your problem by upgrading to v. NB 3.0.1. RK Hm. What about the upgrade problems some people had? Like filters RK not working any more etc? Most of these have been solved during the series of betas. Most filters are now working for most people. That said, we haven't seen a test yet of an upgrade from a v. 2.12.00 to a v. 3.0.1 My filters all converted perfectly from the Old Filter System to the New Filter System when I overwrote v. 2.12.00 with v. 3.0. But they were one-step filters to move a contains a certain header from Sender in Incoming Mail to a particular Inbox subfolder. People with complicated Regular Expressions and sub-filters did not always experience such a smooth conversion. I do believe it will still be important before doing an overwriting installation to delete the .srb files in the directory, The Bat!/Account. NOT the .srx files--that's a very important caution. Once 3.0.1 is installed, new filters created will--always of course with the caveat YMMV--work correctly. There's a small learning curve in learning to create filters in the New Filter System but I was up and running on it after only a couple of mistakes. Some people are still having some troubles with IMAP. But reports on the tbbeta list are that it is greatly improved. I myself am running only POP3/SMTP, on two accounts, with two separate servers. I have no plug-ins. Some people are still having trouble with Bayesit. But a variation of that, Bayes Filter, is catching a reported 99 per cent of Spam in most cases, with no side-effect problems at all. Let's see, can I think of anything else? Hm, that's about the crop. Save your v. 2.12.00 zip so that you can roll back. Then when v. 3.0.1 full release is announced, get the evaluation copy of it. You'll have 30 days to decide if it's for you. That's the best advice which I--a stranger to you, but a fellow TB! user and tbudl subscriber--can give to you at present. MB Alternatively, you could roll back to about v. 2.00.6 or earlier. MB I don't think I had the hanging CC when I was running that MB version. RK But other errors, in IMAP for instance. Ah. You are an IMAP user? Why don't you subscribe to tbbeta and have a look at its recent archives. Allie has been using IMAP with TB! for a long time and he seems to have it working fairly well now. Others have had such big problems that they are not willing to see if they are finally fixed in v. 3.0.1. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.1 Professional on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hallo Thomas, On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:27:06 +0700GMT (12-10-2004, 16:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF NO! You got it wrong. *If* there are any .srx files (which a TF non-beta-tester won't have), those are the ones to delete. The .srb TF files are the filters in v2.x. If you delete them, they are gone. Umm, I don't know how to bring it to you, but the *.srx files are the v1/v2 sorting office, *.srb is the NFS. -- Groetjes, Roelof Women, like rabbits, will hop into bed at night. The Bat! 3.0.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpKsJK5yyv1S.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hi Thomas and list, On Tuesday, October 12, 2004 at 21:27:06 GMT +0700 (which was 16:27 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of connection center, TB 2.12: Not that I'd like to correct you, but for the sake of everyone who wants to deal with v3 filters: MB I do believe it will still be important before doing an overwriting MB installation to delete the .srb files in the directory, The MB Bat!/Account. NOT the .srx files--that's a very important caution. NO! You got it wrong. *If* there are any .srx files (which a non-beta-tester won't have), those are the ones to delete. The .srb files are the filters in v2.x. If you delete them, they are gone. Mary _is_ correct, the V1./2 filters are in the .srx files, the .srb files do contain the v3 filters. If in doubt, just rename, don't delete. ;-) Here I agree with you completely! -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.1, , and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Roelof, On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:00:47 +0200 GMT (12/10/2004, 22:00 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO Umm, I don't know how to bring it to you, but the *.srx files are the RO v1/v2 sorting office, *.srb is the NFS. Ouch. I have no .srx files any more, so you must be right. -- Cheers, Thomas. How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1 RC7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Michael, On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:10:08 +0200 GMT (12/10/2004, 22:10 +0700 GMT), Michael Geyer wrote: MG Mary _is_ correct, the V1./2 filters are in the .srx files, the .srb MG files do contain the v3 filters. I was sure I deleted the .srx files before starting v3. Apologies tyo the list, and especially to Mary. I have no .srx files on my machine now. If in doubt, just rename, don't delete. ;-) MG Here I agree with you completely! Luckily, I didn't cause any damage to myself. I hope everybody who followed my initial advice also followed this one. I gotto find a rock to hide under... -- Cheers, Thomas. Die Bewohner der Erde heisen Autos, ihre Sklaven haben zwei Beine und muessen fur sie arbeiten und sie pflegen. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1 RC7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
On Tuesday, 12 October 2004 at 03:28 (UK time), Roman Katzer said: I have noticed a couple of times recently that the connection center hangs when I can't get mail from one of my accounts. It's a regular POP3-Account, all very vanilla. Now when I notice that the fetch connection hangs and I try to either abort or delete the task, the line containing that task disappears from the CC but I can't close TB. TB claims that there are still tasks active. I've just experienced something similar in version 3.0.1 which should be released very soon. I've had this problem for several years now. A bug which *must* be fixed. -- Paul White Using The Bat! 3.0.1 (Home) with BayesIt! 0.7.3 on Windows 98 (4.10.1998) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
connection center, TB 2.12
Hi all, I have noticed a couple of times recently that the connection center hangs when I can't get mail from one of my accounts. It's a regular POP3-Account, all very vanilla. Now when I notice that the fetch connection hangs and I try to either abort or delete the task, the line containing that task disappears from the CC but I can't close TB. TB claims that there are still tasks active. I open up the CC, no tasks listed. I click on Abort All and the column headers move a bit but other than that, nothing happens. I still can't close TB. I then have to kick TB with the task manager, something I'd rather not do because I don't want to corrupt any files but it's the only way I can close TB. Any suggestions? Roman -- This is probably as bad as it can get, but don't count on it. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
Hello Roman! On Monday, October 11, 2004, 9:28 PM, you wrote: RK I have noticed a couple of times recently that the connection RK center hangs when I can't get mail from one of my accounts. It's a RK regular POP3-Account, all very vanilla. Yes. I've had that also, with the later v. 2.xx versions. RK Now when I notice that the fetch connection hangs and I try to RK either abort or delete the task, the line containing that task RK disappears from the CC but I can't close TB. TB claims that there RK are still tasks active. I open up the CC, no tasks listed. I click RK on Abort All and the column headers move a bit but other than RK that, nothing happens. I still can't close TB. You have described the behavior perfectly. It's a bug. RK I then have to kick TB with the task manager, something I'd rather RK not do because I don't want to corrupt any files but it's the only RK way I can close TB. No help for it. You will have to do it that way, I think. :( RK Any suggestions? Since I've been running the later v. 3.xx betas, I haven't had this problem. I don't remember a specific report from the programmers that it was fixed, but I do have a hazy memory of it being discussed on tbbeta in the v. 3.xx beta downloads. And we've had well over two dozen of those beta versions. What you see reported in my sig is also a beta version. We are testing the .msi installer for v. 3.0.1 at present. It should not be long before the defects in it are sorted. Then you might want to solve your problem by upgrading to v. 3.0.1. Alternatively, you could roll back to about v. 2.00.6 or earlier. I don't think I had the hanging CC when I was running that version. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.1 Professional on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center, TB 2.12
On Monday, October 11, 2004, 22:42:53, Mary Bull wrote: You have described the behavior perfectly. It's a bug. [...] No help for it. You will have to do it that way, I think. :( And will stay one. ARGH! Then you might want to solve your problem by upgrading to v. 3.0.1. Hm. What about the upgrade problems some people had? Like filters not working any more etc? Alternatively, you could roll back to about v. 2.00.6 or earlier. I don't think I had the hanging CC when I was running that version. But other errors, in IMAP for instance. Roman -- Don't get even. Get odd! Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
connection center
I have version 3, I am using Win XP. The connection center tends to collect entries that look like: Copy Remote Message to: In queue Notice that there is no location specified. Right now I have 8 of these. I can delete them or abort them all. As soon as TB interacts with the server again, they all are right back. I cannot make them go away. Closing the program and reopening does not do it. Rebooting the computer does not do it. Actually they are not really a big problem, but as I collect more, TB tends to run slower and has become a pain to use at this point because of the slowness. Suggestions? Gleason Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center
Hallo Gleason, On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:17:14 -0700GMT (22-9-2004, 8:17 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GP Copy Remote Message to: In queue GP Notice that there is no location specified. Right now I have 8 of GP these. I can delete them or abort them all. As soon as TB GP interacts with the server again, they all are right back. Check whether you've got any (or a lot) bat*.tmp files in your temp directory. Check whether you've got any messages in your Outbox. Start the mail dispatcher and whether you've got any odd messages on the server. You can find the dispatcher at: account - dispatch mail on server - all messages -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.16 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpwuHqbXsXuG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: connection center)
Hallo Gleason, On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:17:14 -0700GMT (22-9-2004, 8:17 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GP Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Gleason. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.16 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpQHFiliy2jQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center
Roelof, GP Copy Remote Message to: In queue GP Notice that there is no location specified. Right now I have 8 of GP these. I can delete them or abort them all. As soon as TB GP interacts with the server again, they all are right back. Check whether you've got any (or a lot) bat*.tmp files in your temp directory. Just one, size zero. Removed it. Check whether you've got any messages in your Outbox. Eudora thinks the outbox is a good place to store sent messages. I don't think TB was confused by that, but, ok, I removed them. Start the mail dispatcher and whether you've got any odd messages on the server. You can find the dispatcher at: account - dispatch mail on server - all messages Don't see that under the account menu. I did see send queued mail. Tried that. Count of entries that can't go away in the connection center is now ten. Gleason Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center
Hallo Gleason, On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:57:40 -0700GMT (22-9-2004, 18:57 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Check whether you've got any (or a lot) bat*.tmp files in your temp directory. GP Just one, size zero. Removed it. That shouldn't be a problem anyway. Check whether you've got any messages in your Outbox. GP Eudora thinks the outbox is a good place to store sent messages. I don't GP think TB was confused by that, but, ok, I removed them. The Outbox is the place where TB stores its messages that have to be sent. Just moving a message into that folder causes it to be (re)sent, hence my question. Start the mail dispatcher and whether you've got any odd messages on the server. You can find the dispatcher at: account - dispatch mail on server - all messages GP Don't see that under the account menu. I did see send queued mail. GP Tried that. It should be five lines below the 'send queued mail' item, when you still don't see it, I suggest that you re-install TB. GP Count of entries that can't go away in the connection center is now ten. Yuck. BTW Your message didn't thread while it appears to be written with TB. Are you deleting the In-Reply-To: and References: headers? There's no valid technical reason to do that, whereas there's lot of reasons not to do it, the first reason being that it irritates people because it disturbs their threading. What tool are you using for this? Close it, it might be the reason that TB seems to be misbehaving. GP Gleason GP GP Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: GP http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html You really must include a signature delimiter (dash, dash, space), that way TB would've deleted this stuff automatically. Besides it's in the list rules. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.17 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpUufVoaDB2f.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: connection center
Roelof, GP Don't see that under the account menu. I did see send queued mail. GP Tried that. It should be five lines below the 'send queued mail' item, when you still don't see it, I suggest that you re-install TB. I see Imap Commands in that location. Sure I can reinstall. That will probably make that which can't go away to go away. But I am concerned that they will return. But maybe they won't. BTW Your message didn't thread while it appears to be written with TB. Are you deleting the In-Reply-To: and References: headers? No, I didn't touch the headers. But I have just learned that I can double click on the entry in the list of attachments to the main message. That gets me a view of only your reply that can be replied to without changing the address and subject. Pretty nice. Maybe doing it manually before didn't preserve the headers. GP Gleason GP GP Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: GP http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html You really must include a signature delimiter (dash, dash, space), that way TB would've deleted this stuff automatically. Besides it's in the list rules. You mean like below? TB is doing that by default. Maybe I removed it without thinking. Sorry. -- Gleason Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center
Hallo Gleason, On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:51:11 -0700GMT (22-9-2004, 20:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GP I see Imap Commands in that location. Shucks! You're using IMAP, that means I'm out of my league. I tend to be a bit focused on pop3, since that's what I use myself. Maybe somebody else should take it further. GP Sure I can reinstall. I'm not sure whether that's the solution, I don't even know what's normal for IMAP. Are you deleting the In-Reply-To: and References: headers? GP No, I didn't touch the headers. But I have just learned that I can double GP click on the entry in the list of attachments to the main message. GP That gets me a view of only your reply that can be replied to without GP changing the address and subject. Pretty nice. Maybe doing it manually GP before didn't preserve the headers. Ah and you're receiving the list as MIME digests. You really must include a signature delimiter (dash, dash, space), GP You mean like below? TB is doing that by default. Maybe I removed it GP without thinking. Sorry. Okay, let's say that it's a learning experience for both of us. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.17 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: connection center
Roelof, I see Imap Commands in that location. Sure I can reinstall. That will probably make that which can't go away to go away. But I am concerned that they will return. But maybe they won't. Did the reinstall. I now have a configuration toolbar with a dispatch button. I have been able to keep dead tasks out of the connection center too. I think it was not a good idea to install 3.0 professional edition on top of 2.12. -- Gleason Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Dear Mary, -- Montag, 6. September 2004, 15:46:12: Here's a quote from a post on tbbeta just this morning, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried this technique this morning and The Bat! errored out during the mail poll and I had to use the Task Manager to terminate it. This happened twice in a row. I removed BayesIt and installed BayesFilter and the next poll worked fine with no errors. That's Kevin Coates, as quoted by Eddie Castelli, who has the problem and says he will try BF. If I can remember well, all BI user problems are referring to Installation and Connection Center Problems. If you get it running it works really well. @Mary: If you post a msgId that user can refer to please put the 'mid:' just after the '' and before the midId-Number. Instead of: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] do this : mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Otherwise you may not get directly to the posting. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Hello Eddie! On Tuesday, September 07, 2004, 8:44 AM, you wrote: EC @Mary: EC If you post a msgId that user can refer to please put the 'mid:' just EC after the '' and before the midId-Number. EC Instead of: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EC do this : mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EC Otherwise you may not get directly to the posting. Sorry about that, Eddie. I saw my error as soon as the post appeared, but since Marten had no interest in BF, I didn't think anyone on the list would want me to write just to correct a typo. When do we get to see your Arabia pictures? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
I have just upgraded to v.3 and BayesIt 0.6.01. Twice now the connection center has hung up when downloading mail; it shows a message received 100% but just hangs there, with the message not showing up in the inbox. If I abort the task and start over, it's already been deleted by the server and is therefore lost. Any suggestions as to the possible cause and what to do about it? BTW - I apologize if this problem has been posted by others already - I gave up trying to keep up with the flood of postings over the upgrade itself and so may have missed it. -- Thanks, Rick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Hello Richard, Monday, September 6, 2004, 2:30:50 PM, you wrote: I have just upgraded to v.3 and BayesIt 0.6.01 I have read about v3 and BayesIt problem so very often here and on TBBeta that my first try (if I were using it *g*) would be to get rid of that darn BayesIt thing. :-) Maybe it helps. -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Hello Richard! On Monday, September 06, 2004, 7:30 AM, you wrote: RHS I have just upgraded to v.3 and BayesIt 0.6.01. Twice now the RHS connection center has hung up when downloading mail ... This problem is being addressed by many through using BayesFilter rather than BayesIT. Here's a quote from a post on tbbeta just this morning, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried this technique this morning and The Bat! errored out during the mail poll and I had to use the Task Manager to terminate it. This happened twice in a row. I removed BayesIt and installed BayesFilter and the next poll worked fine with no errors. That's Kevin Coates, as quoted by Eddie Castelli, who has the problem and says he will try BF. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:30:50 +0500 (8:30 AM here), Richard H. Stoddard [RHS] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RHS I have just upgraded to v.3 and BayesIt 0.6.01. Twice now the RHS connection center has hung up when downloading mail; it shows a RHS message received 100% but just hangs there, with the message not RHS showing up in the inbox. I don't have any solutions for you Rick, but wanted to let you know that you are not alone. I have been experiencing exactly the same problem. Using an alternative called Bayes Filter Plugin 1.5.2, I do not experience this problem. http://www.lkcc.org:8500/index.php My BayesIt problems seem to occur on larger mail polls of 100-200 messages. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.0 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBPGsEvZSrVDqOXK0RAqfRAKDlnYPSxRWTbGu5PsUlLQq7kPVSjQCg8oaS YMHrbnXzwtpnHYWxlAn55TY= =dAvQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Mary, Monday, September 6, 2004, 6:46:12 PM, you wrote: MB This problem is being addressed by many through using BayesFilter MB rather than BayesIT. I'm going to try BayesFilter. I installed it and trained it with a selection of SPAM and non-SPAM. (And deleted - at least for now - BayesIt) Question - should I set all preferences in the filter itself, or should I leave the setting for Move to junk folder is greater than... in TB preferences? -- Thanks, Rick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Hello Richard! On Monday, September 06, 2004, 10:07 AM, you wrote: MB This problem is being addressed by many through using BayesFilter MB rather than BayesIT. RHS I'm going to try BayesFilter. ... Question - should I set all RHS preferences in the filter itself, or should I leave the setting RHS for Move to junk folder is greater than... in TB preferences? Richard, try Kevin Coates for help with this? See: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm one of the lucky ones who hardly receive an offer of one Spam a week in the Connection Centre. I have never used a Spam filter of any kind. So I don't know anything about either BayesIt or BayesFilter except what I've read on tbbeta. I do want all my fellow TB! users to have things go well, though, and that's why I answered your post. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:07:46 +0500 (11:07 AM here), Richard H. Stoddard [RHS] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RHS I'm going to try BayesFilter. I installed it and trained it with RHS a selection of SPAM and non-SPAM. (And deleted - at least for now RHS - BayesIt) Question - should I set all preferences in the filter RHS itself, or should I leave the setting for Move to junk folder is RHS greater than... in TB preferences? For the most part, I kept the defaults in the filter itself. I did set up a white list that included my mailing lists and my own addresses. I changed the directory structure so BayesFilter and its logs and files reside under /The Bat!. I found this makes it easier to clone my notebook to my desktop using the 7zip archiver and a batch file. I move suspected junk mail to the junk folder, rather than delete it. This facilitates forwarding junk to SpamCop. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.0 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBPJ9gvZSrVDqOXK0RAtEFAKC30BC8YFDlIFBdkIhb5O27MZ7x7gCcCvVj SN6beiHDyOIk8ao9Zar2FdE= =LOg3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
2/23/2004, 2:25 AM: ETM said in Connection Center E I am going to bed. Greetings to you both from Virginia USA. Night (or, rather, good morning) from Virginia USA :-) -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org At 18 our convictions are hills from which we look; At 45 they are caves in which we hide. -F. Scott Fitzgerald The Bat! 2.04.4, BayesIt! 0.4gm SE | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Center
Hello ETM, Monday, February 23, 2004, 1:25:40 AM, you wrote: E ... The connection center is working ... Elaine, this thread has helped me, too, because I had forgotten that Options/Preferences/General was the place to choose Always. My CC dialogue window had moved itself to a place on my screen that was less convenient for me. So now I've been able to drag it down off the toolbar. While I was at it, I grabbed the horizontal line between the list section and the details section (with the pie chart etc.) and that way I was able to give the list section a little more space. And even at this unholy hour of the morning I remembered that to make it all stick I needed to close the window. I did that, and the CC completely disappeared. Had enough common sense (half a cup of coffee down by now) to trot back to Preferences and look at the CC setting. Sure enough, TB! had dutifully put the choice back to Automatically. I put it to Always, and for once Microsoft did not fail me. The changes I had made did stick. E ... but I am too tired to remember what it looked like (or getting E too old and this is my first hint of trouble grin). Well, ETM is a spring chicken compared to me. g I have written all this about my experience just in case she should wake up this morning with a yen to play around with what the CC looks like in the clear light of day. :) E I am going to bed. Greetings to you both from Virginia USA. Hope you slept well. And greetings (with thanks) to you, Scott, and Roelof, from Tennessee USA--where the sun might show itself on this cloudy morning, although it may be waking ETM (the night-owl g) up this minute. :) -- Best regards, Mary Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
bug: hanging connection center on dialup: Dialling forever, when RAS is already dialling
Hello TBUDL, I use dialup with automatic disconnect. The problem is, when I'm already about to establish a RAS connection outside from TB and the connection centers starts before the computer is connected to the internet service provider the CC dialup status will be Dialling forever (at least quite long, before I kill it). TB should recognize, that the connection is already dialling and wait for the connect. I already wrote about this in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (TBBETA), but no confirmation. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342). Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: hanging connection center on dialup: Dialling forever, when RAS is already dialling
Hello dAniel, On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:08:48 +0100 GMT (23/02/2004, 21:08 +0700 GMT), dAniel hAhler wrote: I use dialup with automatic disconnect. The problem is, when I'm already about to establish a RAS connection outside from TB and the connection centers starts before the computer is connected to the internet service provider the CC dialup status will be Dialling forever (at least quite long, before I kill it). I had this happen (but didn't try with the current version). TB should recognize, that the connection is already dialling and wait for the connect. It may be a Windows problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. SYMPTOM: Opposite wall covered with fluorescent lights. FAULT: You have fallen over backward. ACTION: Have yourself lashed to bar. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.04.4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bug: hanging connection center on dialup: Dialling forever, when RAS is already dialling
Hello Thomas, on Tue, 24. Feb 2004 at 01:46:45 +0700 you wrote: T I had this happen (but didn't try with the current version). I see this as confirmed.. TB should recognize, that the connection is already dialling and wait for the connect. T It may be a Windows problem. Don't know what kind of API TB uses for dialup, but it seems like there is not enough checking in this special case.. RAS Error Code list: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q163/1/11.aspNoWebContent=1 could be 600 (An operation is pending.), 602 (The port is already open.) or sth simliar.. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342). Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center
I have lost the bottom window of the connection center (server, pie chart, etc.). How do I get it back? Elaine Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
Hello ETM, Sunday, February 22, 2004, 10:31:55 PM, you wrote: E I have lost the bottom window of the connection center E (server, pie chart, etc.). E How do I get it back? Push the Details button (lower left at the bottom of the panel). -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BayesIt! 0.4gm Using The Bat! 2.01.3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
E I have lost the bottom window of the connection center E (server, pie chart, etc.). E How do I get it back? Push the Details button (lower left at the bottom of the panel). How do you keep it up long enough to do that? This is bizarre. I maximize it and it's just big, I can see mail (little traffic now) come down but nothing is in the lower window, clicking on details gives me nothing. Elaine I hold it true that thoughts are things endowed with bodies, breath, and wings. --Ella Wheeler Wilcox Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
Hallo ETM, On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:53:55 -0500GMT (23-2-04, 7:53 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Push the Details button (lower left at the bottom of the panel). E How do you keep it up long enough to do that? This is E bizarre. Options - Preferences - General - Display CC: Always -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center
Thank you Roelof and Scott. The connection center is working but I sure don't think that's the way it looked before, but I am too tired to remember what it looked like (or getting too old and this is my first hint of trouble grin). I am going to bed. Greetings to you both from Virginia USA. Elaine DUST: Mud with the juice squeezed out. Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center
Hello Roelof, On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:57:15 +0100 GMT (15/12/2003, 23:57 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: What happens here is that TB sends the message. However due to your settings it's delivering it's message to Norton's AV proxy. That's the setting in my office as well. So when TB sends a message, it doesn't send it to your ISP's smtp server, but it sends the message to a local smtp service on your pc. That's a high speed connection. ;-) So TB thinks the message has been delivered. Keep in mind that because of this you can't use the setting that TB ends the connection when it has delivered the message. Yeah, but while Norton may be connecting to the in-house SMTP server for company mail and thus send it later, private mail using the GMX server still gets delivered. I know that because I send a BCC copy to myself, which I pick up later. And I do get replies from the intedned recipients, too. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. gehen. (Friedrich Zywitza) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
connection center
I seem to be having a problem with the connection center when sending a message with several large attachments. I am sending one e-mail with six attachments, totalling about 6mb. The connection center showed that it went relatively quickly, and gave me the total number of mb sent properly, and then closed; the message was then transferred from the outbox to the sent mail box. But it went far too quickly given my slow dial up connection. I checked my connection status, and it showed nowhere near that number of kb sent (yes, it was showing only kb sent - it hadn't even reached 1mb yet), and my Norton AV icon shows it still scanning an outgoing message, so I didn't log off as I normally would. I have no idea if it went okay or not. Anyone have any advice on how to get the connection center to not close until the send is complete? And how to verify whether it actually went? Thanks. -- Rick Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center
Hallo Richard, On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:14:28 +0500GMT (15-12-03, 16:14 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RHS But it went far too quickly given my slow dial up connection. I RHS checked my connection status, and it showed nowhere near that number RHS of kb sent (yes, it was showing only kb sent - it hadn't even reached RHS 1mb yet), and my Norton AV icon shows it still scanning an outgoing RHS message, so I didn't log off as I normally would. I have no idea if it RHS went okay or not. Anyone have any advice on how to get the connection RHS center to not close until the send is complete? And how to verify RHS whether it actually went? What happens here is that TB sends the message. However due to your settings it's delivering it's message to Norton's AV proxy. Norton doesn't do any real time scanning, what it really does is receiving the message via an smtp service, stores the message to disk, scans the stored file and sends it further after it's being processed. So when TB sends a message, it doesn't send it to your ISP's smtp server, but it sends the message to a local smtp service on your pc. That's a high speed connection. ;-) So TB thinks the message has been delivered. Keep in mind that because of this you can't use the setting that TB ends the connection when it has delivered the message. What you're asking is therefore not a TB thing. It's a Norton thing and as I don't use that, I don't know whether Norton AV has easy accessible log files to check your mail delivery. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: connection center
Roelof, Monday, December 15, 2003, 9:57:15 PM, you wrote: RO On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:14:28 +0500GMT (15-12-03, 16:14 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: RO What happens here is that TB sends the message. However due to RO your settings it's delivering it's message to Norton's AV proxy. RO Norton doesn't do any real time scanning, what it really does is RO receiving the message via an smtp service, stores the message to RO disk, scans the stored file and sends it further after it's being RO processed. So when TB sends a message, it doesn't send it to your RO ISP's smtp server, but it sends the message to a local smtp RO service on your pc. That's a high speed connection. ;-) Thanks for the response. At least now I understand what was happening. I'll try to reconfigure Norton to not scan outgoing e-mails and see if that helps. -- Rick Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection center
On Monday, December 15, 2003, 17:57:15, Roelof Otten wrote: What you're asking is therefore not a TB thing. It's a Norton thing and as I don't use that, I don't know whether Norton AV has easy accessible log files to check your mail delivery. In my experience, Norton discards all messages it's been unable to send, because the connection terminated. Caused countless problems for our customers. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ Eternal boredom is the price of constant vigilance. -- Levy's Tenth Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: connection center
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:33:02 +0500 GMT(15/12/2003, 5:33 PM + GMT), Richard H. Stoddard wrote: RHS I'll try to reconfigure Norton to not RHS scan outgoing e-mails and see if that helps. That solved a lot of problems for me (in Ameol as well as The Bat!). -- Regards, Eric mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: connection center
Eric, Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 3:08:28 AM, you wrote: E On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:33:02 +0500 GMT(15/12/2003, 5:33 PM E + GMT), Richard H. Stoddard wrote: E That solved a lot of problems for me (in Ameol as well as The E Bat!). That seemed to do it. I disabled scan outgoing mail, and this morning I didn't see any evidence it was scanning them - no icon, nothing. In retrospect, scanning outgoing mail was probably redundant, since everything coming in, whether via mail Internet, or disk, is scanned, and I run a full system scan daily. Thanks for all the advice. -- Rick Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center Confusion?
Dear TB Users I have recently upgraded to V2.01.3 from 1.62r With 1.62r my connection speed as reported by the connection centre was around 2000 cps With V2 I am now getting up to 1 cps! Is this more efficient coding on V2.0 or is it lying to me! :) I use a std 56K connection with a connection speed around 28-32K -- Best regards Barry Using TB version 2.01.3 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Confusion?
Hello Barry, On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:45:27 + GMT (07/11/2003, 19:45 +0700 GMT), Barry Higginbottom wrote: With V2 I am now getting up to 1 cps! 10,000 characters per second should be 10,000 bytes/sec = 80k bits per second. Is this more efficient coding on V2.0 or is it lying to me! :) I use a std 56K connection with a connection speed around 28-32K The figure of 1 cps seems unrealistic to me. But I cannot confirm this over here, I always get realistic download speeds shown in the connection center. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center
In the connection center, keyboard shortcuts for hide (alt+H) and delete task (alt+D) work however details (alt+e) and abort all (alt+a) trigger no response for me. Anyone confirm? -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org/poems/ The Bat! 2.01, BayesIt! 0.4gm | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 I always like to know everything about my new friends, and nothing about my old ones. -Oscar Wilde Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection center stopping oin particular mails
Dear Bats I am still being driven crazy by the connection centre just stopping on emails from particular people from this mailing list. I have to go into the mail dispatcher to delete them from the server, and then I can continue. It is definitely specific to particular mailings - on retrying it always stops again on the same mail. I use Sophos antivirus, but have tried deactivating (although not uninstalling) this I use outlook firewall, but have also deactivated this. This is not a version 2 problem - was having the same problem before upgrading. Any ideas Aubrey Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection center stopping oin particular mails
09-Sep-2003 20:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use outlook firewall, but have also deactivated this. I assume you mean Outpost? :) This is not a version 2 problem - was having the same problem before upgrading. Any ideas I'm using Outpost, too - this can't be the problem. In addition - I never ever ran into problems with the connection centre being stuck. Maybe because I have a spam-catching local proxy (SpamPal) between TheBat and my mail server(s)? I don't know... maybe its worth a try, though. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) A person starts to live when he can live outside himself. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)
Hello dajabo, On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:58:20 +0100 GMT (24/08/2003, 01:58 +0700 GMT), dajabo wrote: TF Where/when does it hang? Connecting to server? well yes, connecting to host Known bug: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view_bug_advanced_page.php?f_id=0001037 Sometimes TB hangs, sometimes it times out fine. Stefan has experienced this too, and has thus confirmed the bug himself. Even though the bug is not marked as fixed, I haven't experienced this with v2 beta yet, so maybe it has been secretly fixed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Take notice: when this sign is under water the road is impassable. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, August 23, 2003, dajabo wrote... yes I have Zone Alarm and a hardware wall (I keep ZA to monitor outgoing traffic). My McAffee AV has Outlook email scanning enabled, and its 'download and email scanning' enabled. [..] Should I? There are two possibilities here, ZoneAlarm is the first. There have been a large number of posts in conjunction with ZoneAlarm (try scanning the archives) about issues with the software and TB in particular. The other is McAfee, if it is doing active scans on mail as it is downloading via POP3 (ie, stepping in the way of TB to download the mail), TB might not get acknowledgements of a file being downloaded that is very large, while it can still see an active connection. This would result in TB not timing out as there is no need to, but would also result in TB stalling. How about disabling them both for a while, and see if the issues go away. There have been plenty of firewall suggestions in the past (again list archives will help there) that will be perfect replacements. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Bagginses, they steals our taglines, preciou -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP0jUXiuD6BT4/R9zEQLY1wCdFP9CckmZ3gF00f8lOhK2YBrJwu8AoM1B cldPuisJjV4xnuIq6etjSiVt =kL/6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center Hanging (cont.)
This little problem (the connection centre hanging) has only begun affecting me for the last few weeks. Until then the CC was working like a dream... I can't think of any config changes I made to encourage it. And it seems to occur at random on different accounts, ie different accounts hang at different times, though they are always accounts with the same POP server. David Boggon _ using 1.62r Windows 2000 5 0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)
Hello dajabo, Saturday, August 23, 2003, 3:58:02 AM, you wrote: This little problem (the connection centre hanging) has only begun affecting me for the last few weeks. Until then the CC was working like a dream... I can't think of any config changes I made to encourage it. And it seems to occur at random on different accounts, ie different accounts hang at different times, though they are always accounts with the same POP server. Do you happen to have a firewall installed? or an antivirus with mail checking installed? or a spam checker installed? Is it possible that the POP server verifies the e-mail while you download the messages? -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Center Hanging (cont.)
TF Where/when does it hang? Connecting to server? well yes, connecting to host DR Do you happen to have a firewall installed? or an antivirus with mail DR checking installed? or a spam checker installed? Is it possible that DR the POP server verifies the e-mail while you download the messages? yes I have Zone Alarm and a hardware wall (I keep ZA to monitor outgoing traffic). My McAffee AV has Outlook email scanning enabled, and its 'download and email scanning' enabled. I have no spam checker, and I don't know about the POP server verifying the email while I download the messages. Should I? As I said, I haven't made any configuration changes, that I am aware of, to the bat or to ZA or my anti-virus. As I'm writing this the connection center has been connecting to host for over 10 minutes to the pop server at postmark.net (I have 4 accounts here). I have one other account through my university that never seems to hang. -- dajabo The Bat! 1.62r on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 2195 5 0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Hangs While Checking Mail Headers
Thursday, July 24, 2003, 10:16:37 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote: CM [replying to self] CM Well, I don't know what the problem was, but since this was for my Yahoo CM account, I went to the web mail page and cleared out the messages using CM my web browser. Must've been a corrupt message on the server. Problem CM solved (at least for now). ..OTOH, I get a similar problem with 1.62r. When checking mail and connection center set to automatic, the communication center window will usually pop up and go away of its own accord. Every once in a while (3-5 times a day with 15min automatic checks), the communication center window will sit on the screen with no messages or tasks, and the abort and delete task window will have no affect. If I manually force a check (F2 key), the comm. center window gets re-used, and goes away correctly. I have a feeling this only happens when mail is actually downloaded, but have no other particulars at this point. It seems all the messages are downloaded correctly, though. At first, I thought it was related to the virtual desktop thingie I was playing with, but if somebody else is reporting a similar problem... WL Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Hangs While Checking Mail Headers
Friday, July 25, 2003, 3:39:48 PM, WL wrote: ..OTOH, I get a similar problem with 1.62r. When checking mail and connection center set to automatic, the communication center window will usually pop up and go away of its own accord. Every once in a while (3-5 times a day with 15min automatic checks), the communication center window will sit on the screen with no messages or tasks, and the abort and delete task window will have no affect. If I manually force a check (F2 key), the comm. center window gets re-used, and goes away correctly. I've had this problem too. I've noticed that it occurs when I give focus to the connection centre just as it finishes checking for mail. It's never happened when I let it run minimised. Of course, it doesn't happen every time I give focus to the connection centre, either. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center Hangs While Checking Mail Headers
Howdy, This is the first time I've come up against this While checking mail (downloading mail headers from server), I get an error thrown on retrieving the last mail header: '20030724063014' is not a valid integer value Clicking on Abort or Delete Task in the Connection Center window seems to have no effect, the Connection Center just stays open. I've had to use the Windows Task Manager twice to close down TB before restarting. I have also rebooted and tried it again but the same error occurs. The above number must be some kind of date string but I have no idea what this error really means or why mail retrieval is hanging. Anyone seen this before? Any ideas on how to rectify it? Windows 2000 Pro TB v1.62r -- Chris Montgomery Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Hangs While Checking Mail Headers
[replying to self] Well, I don't know what the problem was, but since this was for my Yahoo account, I went to the web mail page and cleared out the messages using my web browser. Must've been a corrupt message on the server. Problem solved (at least for now). -- Chris Montgomery Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Offscreen connection center
Hello tbudl, My connection center seems to have disappeared off screen someplace. When I check my mail, the connection center icon appears on my task bar, but is nowhere to be found on screen. When I right-click on the task bar icon and select Move or Resize, my mouse jumps to the upper left hand corner of the screen. My mail appears to be downloading normally, but I miss being able to see what's going on in the connection center. Any suggestions? -- Best regards, Ken mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Offscreen connection center
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ken Heronheart [KH] wrote:'
KH My connection center seems to have disappeared off screen someplace.
KH When I check my mail, the connection center icon appears on my task
KH bar, but is nowhere to be found on screen. When I right-click on the
KH task bar icon and select Move or Resize, my mouse jumps to the
KH upper left hand corner of the screen. My mail appears to be
KH downloading normally, but I miss being able to see what's going on
KH in the connection center. Any suggestions?
Go to Options Preferences and under the 'General' tab, select
'Display control center' - Always.
Right click the CC on the taskbar and select 'move'. The mouse
pointer should change to crossed arrows (the move pointer).
Go straight to the arrow keys and use them to move the CC window
back unto the desktop. I'd try moving down and to the right since
the mouse moved to the left upper part of the screen.
Hit enter when finished.
--
-=] allie_M [=- {List Moderator}
MUA: TB! v1.63 Beta/2 ___ OS: WinXP Pro (SP1)
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Offscreen connection center
Hallo Ken, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:41:54 -0600GMT (11-1-03, 16:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: KH My connection center seems to have disappeared off screen KH someplace. Close TB! Start Regedit Set the keys: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Top HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Left both to zero. Close Regedit Start TB Check your mail The CC will appear at the upper left corner and you can drag it to the place you'd like to. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Offscreen connection center
On Saturday, January 11, 2003, 10:22:35 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Ken, On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:41:54 -0600GMT (11-1-03, 16:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: KH My connection center seems to have disappeared off screen KH someplace. Close TB! Start Regedit Set the keys: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Top HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\RAS Left both to zero. Close Regedit Start TB Check your mail The CC will appear at the upper left corner and you can drag it to the place you'd like to. Thanks! That did the trick. -- Best Regards, Kenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Center?
Hello TBUL, What is the purpose of the Transfer column in the Connection Center? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.60c on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Connection Center?
Hello Greg, On Sat, 18 May 2002 11:01:49 -0500 GMT (18/05/02, 23:01 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS What is the purpose of the Transfer column in the Connection Center? It shows you how many bytes of total how many bytes have been transferred toyour computer. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ...und wir gingen mit unserer Lehrerin im Park spazieren. Gegenueber dem Park war ein Haus, wo die Muetter ihre Kinder gebaeren. Eine Gebaermutter schaute aus dem Fenster und winkte uns freudig zu. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60k under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:27:51 +0800GMT (1-12-01, 5:27 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: AQ Thank to all of you who gave me a hand. Roelof and Thomas won the AQ paella (half each) for their good suggestions. AQ down south. What are you waiting for? Come and get your award! TF I will be in Granada in the second quarter of next year, I just TF learned. Will let you know! :-) In that case you're entitled to collect my part of the paella too, since I don't even know where to find Granada. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?
On 1 Dec 2001, 12:44:51 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: In that case you're entitled to collect my part of the paella too, since I don't even know where to find Granada. Even without the paella, a visit to Granada would be a very good thing. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 19:44:51 +0100 GMT (02/12/2001, 02:44 +0800 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO In that case you're entitled to collect my part of the paella too, RO since I don't even know where to find Granada. Thanks. :-) Grananda is in southern Spain, 37 degrees N / 3 degrees W. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wann wird denn endlich der Niagara-Fall geloest oder die Formel 1 ausgerechnet ?? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Roelof! On 1 Dec 2001 at 19:44:51 you wrote: In that case you're entitled to collect my part of the paella too, since I don't even know where to find Granada. 1. In an Atlas (I recommend the one from the Britannica or even the on from National Geographic). 2. About 100 km Northeast of Malaga, directly North from Almeria. 3. In your history book under 1492 (Nothing to do with Christobal Colon, but a lot with Islam). - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C To live at all is miracle enough. (Mervyn Peake) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPAkcFfTo1oA8g8dLEQI5swCgwSODvIL52NnYdVyVpVzQ1uNulRIAoKM6 4mQfR+1ee20P2nJHXctBSOb6 =5R9h -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?
Hello Dierk, On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 20:06:12 +0100GMT (1-12-01, 20:06 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: since I don't even know where to find Granada. DH 3. In your history book under 1492 (Nothing to do with Christobal DH Colon, but a lot with Islam). Ouch! History and Spain. :-( I only know about the eighty year war we had way back with them. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?
Hi Arturo, On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:53:20 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 15:53 +0800GMT), Arturo Quirantes wrote: AQ I have a related problem. I get the CC in the taskbar, but cannot AQ make it appear! Hmm, over here it comes into the foreground when I click on the taskbar item. AQ Alex Leschinsky, from RITlabs, told me to restore the window (CC, AQ I guess) from its minimized form when I send/receive, but to no AQ avail: the restore option in the right-button menu is grayed AQ out. How about Maximise? Maybe the size is set to zero or something, so that's why you don't see it. Maybe also it is located off the screen, so that Restore option is greyed out, because it is already restored? When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly reappear? AQ Has anybody had this phantom CC problem, and if so, how did you AQ solve it? I´m using W98 and TB 1.53d Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key the setting for size and location are stored. And what the default values are, to which you should set them. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
