Re: Email Filter question

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 19 January 2020 at 8:36:15 PM, in
, Marck Pearlstone
wrote:-



> It didn't cater for those in both groups.  

Ah, thanks. I couldn't see that for looking. I started with a more
complicated solution and evidently simplified it too far; in my mind I
still had that covered. (-:


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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello,

I'm in the process of setting this up, but have trouble with point 3)

I don't see how to set "delete the message and stop".

Also, do I choose to only filter the inbox for all of the filters/subfilter, or 
any folders?

Thanks again!

Saturday, January 18, 2020, 1:33:55 AM, Marck wrote:

> Now create 3 Subfilters of that top level filter

>1) If sender in Group A copy to Folder A and continue processing
>2) If sender in Group B copy to Folder B and continue processing
>3) delete the message and stop.



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Re: Another filter question

[Susanne]

Thank you!

Sunday, January 19, 2020, 12:37:11 PM, Marck wrote:

> On 19 January 2020 at 16:50 Susanne wrote and made these points

S>> This should be easy, but I can't figure it out:
S>> how can I have any message sent into the Trash folder automatically be 
marked as read?

> With 2 actions:

> 1. Mark as read
> 2. Delete (or move to trash).



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Re: Another filter question

[Marck Pearlstone]

On 19 January 2020 at 16:50 Susanne wrote and made these points

S> This should be easy, but I can't figure it out:
S> how can I have any message sent into the Trash folder automatically be 
marked as read?

With 2 actions:

1. Mark as read
2. Delete (or move to trash).

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Re: Email Filter question

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On 19 January 2020 at 13:27 MFPA wrote and made these points

>> Having  seen  the other answers, I note that the
>> actual working answer
>> hasn't been presented, so I'll give it a go.

M> Out of interest, in what circumstance would my answer not work?

It didn't cater for those in both groups.

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Another filter question

[Susanne]

This should be easy, but I can't figure it out:
how can I have any message sent into the Trash folder automatically be marked 
as read?

Thanks in advance!

  

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Re: Email Filter question

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Hi


On Saturday 18 January 2020 at 9:33:55 AM, in
, Marck Pearlstone
wrote:-


> Having  seen  the other answers, I note that the
> actual working answer
> hasn't been presented, so I'll give it a go.

Out of interest, in what circumstance would my answer not work?

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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello,

Saturday, January 18, 2020, 1:33:55 AM, Marck wrote:

> This  will  give you the functionality you're looking for. I have many
> nested and structured filters like this. They work well.

Thanks, Marck!

I will gibe that a try. I didn't even know about subfilters, until now! :)

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello Marck,

> Having  seen  the other answers, I note that the actual working answer
> hasn't been presented, so I'll give it a go.
>
> a:  create new filter with 2 conditions "Sender in Group A" or "Sender
> in Group B" and no action.
>
> b: Now create 3 Subfilters of that top level filter
>
>1) If sender in Group A copy to Folder A and continue processing
>2) If sender in Group B copy to Folder B and continue processing
>3) delete the message and stop.
>
> This  will  give you the functionality you're looking for. I have many
> nested and structured filters like this. They work well.

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello Feli,

>> Then a third filter with condition "Address groups AB contain sender"
>> And two actions:
>> Move to folder A
>> Copy to folder B
>
> The first action should be
> Copy to folder B
> because when you move first, there is nothing to copy

Nope.  The  order  of  the  move  and  copy  actions  doesn't  make  a
difference. It works both ways, try it :)

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Re: Email Filter question

[Marck Pearlstone]

On 16 January 2020 at 23:14 Susanne wrote and made these points

S> Thursday, January 16, 2020, 2:12:25 PM, you wrote:

>> There are several ways this could be achieved. Here's a suggestion,
>> which I have not tested.

S> I'll test out different things, or maybe go with your suggestion to treat it 
as one group,
S> as I have not fallen out with anyone. I'm sure you are right, and mix-ups 
will happen.

Having  seen  the other answers, I note that the actual working answer
hasn't been presented, so I'll give it a go.

a:  create new filter with 2 conditions "Sender in Group A" or "Sender
in Group B" and no action.

b: Now create 3 Subfilters of that top level filter

   1) If sender in Group A copy to Folder A and continue processing
   2) If sender in Group B copy to Folder B and continue processing
   3) delete the message and stop.

This  will  give you the functionality you're looking for. I have many
nested and structured filters like this. They work well.

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Re: Email Filter question

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello MAU,

Am 16.01.20 um 22:41 schrieb MAU:

Then a third filter with condition "Address groups AB contain sender"
And two actions:
Move to folder A
Copy to folder B


The first action should be
Copy to folder B
because when you move first, there is nothing to copy

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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello MFPA,

Thursday, January 16, 2020, 2:12:25 PM, you wrote:

> There are several ways this could be achieved. Here's a suggestion,
> which I have not tested.

I'll test out different things, or maybe go with your suggestion to treat it as 
one group, 
as I have not fallen out with anyone. I'm sure you are right, and mix-ups will 
happen.

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Re: Email Filter question

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 16 January 2020 at 8:16:41 PM, in
, Susanne wrote:-


>   Now, a few people have fallen out with each other,
> and the group
> is splitting into two, with some of the same people
> being in both
> groups, and others just in one or the other.

If you are in both groups and haven't fallen out with anybody, easiest
would be to ignore the split and treat it as still one group.



>   How can I filter the messages into two folders,
> without getting mix-ups?

I would think mix-ups are inevitable with or without automatic 
filtering. If somebody else in the group mixes up, the message they 
send might trigger the wrong filter when it gets to you.



>   Is it even possible?  

There are several ways this could be achieved. Here's a suggestion,
which I have not tested.

Filter_1 
two conditions:- 
a - the sender is any address in the wider group
b - the recipient contains all (or any) of the addresses that are
only in SubGroup_1  
Action - move all messages to the SubGroup_1 folder. 
 


Filter_2 
two conditions:- 
a - the sender is any address in the wider group
b - the recipient contains all (or any) of the addresses that are
only in SubGroup_2  
Action - move all messages to the SubGroup_2 folder.


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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello Miguel,

Thursday, January 16, 2020, 1:43:12 PM, you wrote:

> Don't delete any filters yet. Just set them to NOT Active.

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

> I assume I need to delete all my previous filters for the group?

Don't delete any filters yet. Just set them to NOT Active.

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> Maybe  it  is  not  the  only  way to achieve what you want, but this
> should work.

I  think  I  "spoke"  too  fast and it won't work. I think the move to
action  will  not  work  correctly  for  those who are on both groups,
because the first filter will move them to folder A and the second one
to B. But I am afraid it will not remain in A.

Maybe you will need to create 3 AB groups. A for those who are only in
A, B for those in B and AB for those who are on both.

Then a third filter with condition "Address groups AB contain sender"
And two actions:
Move to folder A
Copy to folder B

Filter  1  in  previous  message  will  not  need to include "Continue
processing..

I will try to test this tomorrow if I have some time.



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Re: Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello Miguel,

Thursday, January 16, 2020, 1:13:40 PM, you wrote:

> Yes, it is. The best I can think of is using Address Book Groups.

Thanks very much!

I assume I need to delete all my previous filters for the group?

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Re: Email Filter question

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

>   How can I filter the messages into two folders, without getting mix-ups?
>   
>   Is it even possible?

Yes, it is. The best I can think of is using Address Book Groups.

Create  two  groups  A  and  B. Include in A those in group A and in B
those in group B. And include in A and B those that are on both.

Then use two filters.

1. With Condition: "Address groups A contain sender"
   And action: Move to folder A.
   In  the  Options  for  this filter, select "Continue processing with
   other filters", so the next filter will also be executed.

2. With Condition: "Address groups B contain sender"
   And action: Move to folder B.
   DO NOT select "Continue processing..."

Maybe  it  is  not  the  only  way to achieve what you want, but this
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Email Filter question

[Susanne]

Hello everyone,

  I'm having a tricky situation:
  a group of friends has been emailing each other for years and I have the 
mails from those addresses going into a specific folder.
  Now, a few people have fallen out with each other, and the group is splitting 
into two, with some of the same people being in both groups, and others just in 
one or the other.
  
  How can I filter the messages into two folders, without getting mix-ups?
  
  Is it even possible?

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Re: Another filter question

[Barry]

On 31/05/2011 21:09:38, Barry wrote:
 Thomas Fernandez thomas.gm...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hello Barry,

 On Tue, 31 May 2011 14:35:05 +0100 GMT (31/May/11, 20:35 PM +0700 GMT),
 Barry wrote:

 This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has stopped
 functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is
 moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked
 with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked.

 Any ideas? Or is it another bug?

 There have been reports of bugs in the filtering system of v5 on the
 beta list. However, they are no reliably reproducable, meaning that
 some people report a problem, and other people say the filters work
 correctly. Soi it's difficult for the developers to pinpoint and fix.
 (I myself stick with v4 for this reason.)

 Are you using POP or IMAP? I just browsed the bug reports and am
 trying to find your exact problem, so far without success.
 
 I use both POP and IMAP accounts, but in this case I am using a POP
 account.

Hi Thomas

The problem seems to lie with the action of parking the message. If I remove
that action from the filter then all works OK. If I include the action to
park the message then the original message remains in the Inbox with the Park
flag set.

So I guess it's a buglet?

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Re: Another filter question

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Barry,

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:51:36 +0100 GMT (01/Jun/11, 17:51 PM +0700 GMT),
Barry wrote:

 This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has 
 stopped
 functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is
 moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked
 with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked.

 Any ideas? Or is it another bug?

 Are you using POP or IMAP? I just browsed the bug reports and am
 trying to find your exact problem, so far without success.
B  
 I use both POP and IMAP accounts, but in this case I am using a POP
 account.

B Hi Thomas

B The problem seems to lie with the action of parking the message. If I remove
B that action from the filter then all works OK. If I include the action to
B park the message then the original message remains in the Inbox with the Park
B flag set.

B So I guess it's a buglet?

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Another filter question

[Barry]

Hi

I have a filter that has been in use for many years that filters all emails
addressed to a specific address, it moves them to a folder marks the message
as Read and then Parks it.

This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has stopped
functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is
moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked
with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked.

Any ideas? Or is it another bug?

The actions are:

Move to the folder \\Barry\Fax Server\Received
Mark the message as read
Mark the message as parked.


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Re: Another filter question

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Barry,

On Tue, 31 May 2011 14:35:05 +0100 GMT (31/May/11, 20:35 PM +0700 GMT),
Barry wrote:

B This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has stopped
B functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is
B moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked
B with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked.

B Any ideas? Or is it another bug?

There have been reports of bugs in the filtering system of v5 on the
beta list. However, they are no reliably reproducable, meaning that
some people report a problem, and other people say the filters work
correctly. Soi it's difficult for the developers to pinpoint and fix.
(I myself stick with v4 for this reason.)

Are you using POP or IMAP? I just browsed the bug reports and am
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Re: Another filter question

[Barry]

Thomas Fernandez thomas.gm...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hello Barry,
 
 On Tue, 31 May 2011 14:35:05 +0100 GMT (31/May/11, 20:35 PM +0700 GMT),
 Barry wrote:
 
 This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has stopped
 functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is
 moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked
 with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked.
 
 Any ideas? Or is it another bug?
 
 There have been reports of bugs in the filtering system of v5 on the
 beta list. However, they are no reliably reproducable, meaning that
 some people report a problem, and other people say the filters work
 correctly. Soi it's difficult for the developers to pinpoint and fix.
 (I myself stick with v4 for this reason.)
 
 Are you using POP or IMAP? I just browsed the bug reports and am
 trying to find your exact problem, so far without success.

I use both POP and IMAP accounts, but in this case I am using a POP
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179819 * filter question

[agent]

Hello!

  i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in
L  the format membername@forumname.

L  I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname
L  part.

L  Any pointers?
Try 'Recipient match @forumname'



How about SENDER -- CONTAINS -- @forumname


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Re: filter question

[Luc]

 Good afternoon Roger,
  
It was foretold that
on 26/05/2011 @ 07:19:43 GMT+0200 (which was 02:19:43 where I live)
Roger Phillips would write:

snipped a bit

 Try 'Recipient match @forumname'

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Re: filter question

[Luc]

 Good afternoon Roger,
  
It was foretold that
on 26/05/2011 @ 07:19:43 GMT+0200 (which was 02:19:43 where I live)
Roger Phillips would write:

snipped a bit

 Try 'Recipient match @forumname'

No luck. Testing the filter gives me the message that it has been
moved but the message didn't actually move to the right folder.
 
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Re: filter question -SOLVED

[Luc]

 Good afternoon list,
  
Well it seems TB! was in a lazy mood ... after a few minutes the
filter kicked in and fo the time being all is well :-)


 
 
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Re: filter question

[mark]

Hi Luc and others -

  i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in
  the format membername@forumname.

  I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname
  part.

  Any pointers?

I use Header Contains thebat.dutaint.com to filter (and move to a folder) all 
emails from this list.  You could try: Header Contains @forumname, and if that 
doesn't work then: Header Contains forumname. 

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filter question

[Luc]

 Hello list,

 i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in
 the format membername@forumname.

 I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname
 part.

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Re: filter question

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Luc,

Thursday, May 26, 2011, 6:49:40 AM, among other things, you wrote:

L  i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in
L  the format membername@forumname.

L  I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname
L  part.

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Try 'Recipient match @forumname'

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Re: another Addressbook and filter question

[Tom]

Hi guys,

just a quick update on my issue :)
I followed Roger's advice and this solved my problem. Now everything
works as intended (until I come up with another challenge for TB).

Re filtering other folders than the inbox, maybe my query was
confusing. The filter worked fine on incoming emails on the inbox
and the sub-folder before. (So in this case the sequence of filters
was correct). However, what I had intended was to refilter existing
emails in the subordinated folder and this did not work
as intended. I needed to do this to generate the addresses in the
special addressbook I was creating.

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Re[2]: another Addressbook and filter question

[Roger Phillips]

Hello MFPA (and Tom),

Sunday, May 6, 2007, 9:23:37 PM, among other things, you wrote:

 An 'incoming mail' filter only works on messages in the Inbox
 folder. First move all the messages into your inbox, and then do
 a refilter.

M Dunno if that varies by version; here I can re-filter any folder
M using the incoming filter set.

 Sorry  for  the delay but I could not do any tests until now. You are quite
 correct, it *is* possible to use an 'Incoming mail' filter on any folder. I
 set up a filter to copy 'From' addresses to a special address book group as
 Tom was trying to do and it worked perfectly.

 I'm wondering if Tom had his filter placed too late in the filters tree and
 the  earlier  filters  moved  the  messages  to  anmother folder before his
 special filter saw them? I had this happen before I made the specail filter
 the first one, and it then worked.
 


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Re: another Addressbook and filter question

[MFPA]

Hi

On Saturday 5 May 2007 at 5:16:37 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roger Phillips
wrote:

 An 'incoming mail' filter only works on messages in the Inbox
 folder. First move all the messages into your inbox, and then do
 a refilter.

Dunno if that varies by version; here I can re-filter any folder
using the incoming filter set.

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Re: another Addressbook and filter question

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Tom,

Friday, May 4, 2007, 7:26:51 AM, among other things, you wrote:


T still working on an issue regarding filtering addresses.
T I have about 1000 emails in one folder (a subfolder) and would like to
T add all sender's addresses to a Adressbook (subdirectory in Personal
T Addressbooks). I tried to set up a manual filter and used refilter but
T I seem to be missing something. Nothing gets exported on the existing
T emails. How should I best tackle this?
T   

 An 'incoming mail' filter only works on messages in the Inbox folder. First
 move all the messages into your inbox, and then do a refilter.


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another Addressbook and filter question

[Tom]

Hello Everyone,

still working on an issue regarding filtering addresses.
I have about 1000 emails in one folder (a subfolder) and would like to
add all sender's addresses to a Adressbook (subdirectory in Personal
Addressbooks). I tried to set up a manual filter and used refilter but
I seem to be missing something. Nothing gets exported on the existing
emails. How should I best tackle this?
  

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Filter question

[Thomas on Gmane]

Hi,

It's raining, and that means in the tropics no way to go out. I'm stuck in the 
office for half an hour or so, and try to improve by TB-incarnation (3.80.03 
Pro).

Let's simplify the system, so as to make the problem clear. I have one archive 
account (A), which has folders for countries the mails come from, or for certan 
customers.

I have at least two active accounts (B and C), which are the correspondence 
accounts, such as sales or accounting. 

By way of common filter, mails incoming to B and C are copied into the country 
folders of A. This way, when I use the folder tab Unread, I can see which 
countries the mails come from and can prioritise them accordingly. I add an 
header to each incoming mail identifying through which account it came n, so 
that when I reply from the archive account, the %Account= macro will kick in. 
This is beautiful.

However, I copy the mails there and don't move them from the Inbox of B and C, 
because I want to keep them there as back-up too. What happens is that  they 
remain unread, of course. Having heard at an earlier time that Account-level 
filters kick in after Common filters, I set a catch-all to mark the messages 
read.

This doesn't work! The Account filters are never triggered. I cannot 
click continue on all over 100 Common filters, some with over 100 conditions. 

How could I get the mails in Inboxes of accounts B and C automatically marked 
read, while the copies in the folders of account A remain unread?

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Re: Filter question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Thomas,

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:29:51 + (UTC)GMT (6-7-2006, 13:29 , where I
live), you wrote:

TF How could I get the mails in Inboxes of accounts B and C automatically 
marked
TF read, while the copies in the folders of account A remain unread?

Create sub-filters for your common filters and have those subfilters
set the message as read.
Something else that might work is set a second action for your filters
that sets the message as read after you've copied it.

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Re: Filter question

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Roelof,

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:58:46 +0200 GMT (06/07/2006, 19:58 +0700 GMT),
Roelof Otten wrote:

TF How could I get the mails in Inboxes of accounts B and C automatically 
marked
TF read, while the copies in the folders of account A remain unread?

RO Create sub-filters for your common filters and have those subfilters
RO set the message as read.

Apart from creating over 100 subfilters: Would these only mark the
originals as read, not the copies?

And if so, is there a way use just one filter, instead of having to
create so many subfilters?

RO Something else that might work is set a second action for your filters
RO that sets the message as read after you've copied it.

Please elaborate.

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'nother filter question: To remove text from Subject line

[rich gregory]

Hello Bat-Folk!

Here's another filter question I would much appreciate help with.

Many of my received mssgs have a snippet of text inserted into the
subject line by either (or both) of the mail servers my email goes thru.

This snippets always start with [ and end with ].

If someone can advise how to do the following I would be very
grateful.

IF snippet = [SPAM] do nothing
IF snippet = [anything/else] remove snippet including the []s.

If the decision making part of the filter is too complex I would be
happy just to remove ALL [snippets].

(Using TB! v 2.12)

Maybe someone here could make a side business out of making filters
for me!

Thanks all.
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Re: 'nother filter question: To remove text from Subject line

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello rich,

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:11:47 -0500 GMT (13/02/2006, 01:11 +0700 GMT),
rich gregory wrote:

rg If the decision making part of the filter is too complex I would be
rg happy just to remove ALL [snippets].

rg (Using TB! v 2.12)

rg Maybe someone here could make a side business out of making filters
rg for me!

You cannot alter incoming messages within TB. This is a long-standing
shortcoming.

There is a complex work-around, which exports the message to a text
editor, alters the message, and then re-imports it. I don't have the
details, I just think it should be possible the way you desire.

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Re: 'nother filter question: To remove text from Subject line

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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 12 Feb 2006,
   @  @  at 13:11:47 -0500, when rich gregory wrote:

 Here's another filter question I would much appreciate help with.

 Many of my received mssgs have a snippet of text inserted into the
 subject line by either (or both) of the mail servers my email goes thru.

 This snippets always start with [ and end with ].

 If someone can advise how to do the following I would be very
 grateful.

 IF snippet = [SPAM] do nothing
 IF snippet = [anything/else] remove snippet including the []s.

 If the decision making part of the filter is too complex I would be
 happy just to remove ALL [snippets].

 (Using TB! v 2.12)

 Maybe someone here could make a side business out of making filters
 for me!

Now we are talking! (-:

Well, as Signor Thomas have said, it's not very and neatly possible with
and within TB, due to the moral and cosmogonical reasons, but again it
is with and within other noble and skillful tricks and means.

For instance, you can do that with X-Ray, and it would look like this
string then...

$CutStr($Subject, [loony-list-boohoo])

...typed in into the Kludge-Value box, for POP3 filters.

It means that some subject like Oh, what a joy! [loony-list-boohoo],
will after the X-Ray's treatment appear like Oh, what a joy! in a TB's
inbox.

If you prefer such a solution, install X-Ray and I'll tell you further
details.

Now, what was the link ... this one: http://www.xrayapp.com/.

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Re: 'nother filter question: To remove text from Subject line

[Robin Anson]

On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 at 13:11:47 -0500, Rich wrote:
 Many of my received mssgs have a snippet of text inserted into the
 subject line by either (or both) of the mail servers my email goes thru.

 This snippets always start with [ and end with ].

 If someone can advise how to do the following I would be very
 grateful.

 IF snippet = [SPAM] do nothing
 IF snippet = [anything/else] remove snippet including the []s.

You cannot do this within TB!. However, if you install the X-Ray Mail
Assistant (www.xrayapp.com) and use it as your POP proxy, X-Ray can do it
for you. The second of your two options above is an example from X-Ray's
readme.txt file. Including the first as well would not be hard.


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%AB Macros and Addressbook filter question

[Andrew]

Hi All,

I noticed that I was getting mail to me but that my name wasn't in
the original TO or was misspelled.

I cam up with this. It makes sure that the sender is consistent, and
that the right alias return address is used.
%FROM='%ABOTOHandle %OTOADDR'

But this led me to these thoughts:

Is there an easier or more logical way to do this? Is there no display
name AB key word or similar that would insert the entry as it would if
manually selected from the address book (might be handy when sending
mail too). Right now, I take the display name and have to copy it over
to the handle, but if I change something in the address book, I need
to update the handle as well...

How does the default address filter decide how to add addresses? Is
there a better way than the default one, which seems to do add every
combo of name even though the e-mail addy is obviously already in
there. 


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Re: filter question

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 2:21:49 AM, you wrote:
L Hello Stuart,
  


L individual message to John Doe: no problem

This should be Recipient matches [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( exact match)

L Next two scenarios:

L - message to various people (not always the same ones) but including
L John Doe.

This should be Recipient starts with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

L - message to the group, always including John Doe.

This should be Recipient starts with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Works if he is not the first in the recipient list.

You can also use:
Recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  and  Recipient contains someone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
But you would have to know who the second person is.
If you organize your contacts in named address books you can mail and filter on
these addressbooks like this:

addressgroups Friends contains sender.

Place this one before the John Doe filter and your done.

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Re: filter question

[Bill McCarthy]

On Mon 22-Nov-04 4:33pm -0600, Luc wrote:

  i've made a filter that moves a send message into a separate send
  folder. The purpose is to have mail send to a certain person to be
  moved in a folder that i have created for that person (something like
  john doe, send messages). The condition is recipient contains
  mail address . So far so good. Here comes the tricky part:
  sometimes i need to send mail to a bunch of co-workers(including
  that person) and i want those messages to be excluded, in other words
  in that case the send mail should not end up in that special
  folder. That same person also belongs to a group and if i mail that
  group, it should also not be moved to that
 folder. Which condition(s)
  should i add to the filter?

Assume John Doe's address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Header field - To - contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AND - Header field - To - does not match - ,
AND - Header field - CC - does not contain - @

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Re: filter question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Luc,

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 02:21:49 +0100GMT (23-11-2004, 2:21 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

L individual message to John Doe: no problem

Create an AB group johndoe, especially for John Doe

Create a filter with condition:
address group 'johndoe' contains 'all recipients'

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Re: filter question

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 4:43:34 PM, you wrote:
RO Create an AB group johndoe, especially for John Doe

RO Create a filter with condition:
RO address group 'johndoe' contains 'all recipients'

Hi Roelof,

That is some nice out of the box thinking or is this revese logic ;-)
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filter question

[Luc]

 Good evening list,  

 i've made a filter that moves a send message into a separate send
 folder. The purpose is to have mail send to a certain person to be
 moved in a folder that i have created for that person (something like
 john doe, send messages). The condition is recipient contains
 mail address . So far so good. Here comes the tricky part:
 sometimes i need to send mail to a bunch of co-workers(including
 that person) and i want those messages to be excluded, in other words
 in that case the send mail should not end up in that special
 folder. That same person also belongs to a group and if i mail that
 group, it should also not be moved to that folder. Which condition(s)
 should i add to the filter?

 I hope this all makes sense :-)

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Re: filter question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Luc,
Monday, November 22, 2004, 4:33:09 PM, you wrote:

L  Good evening list,  

L  i've made a filter that moves a send message into a separate send
L  folder. The purpose is to have mail send to a certain person to be
L  moved in a folder that i have created for that person (something like
L  john doe, send messages). The condition is recipient contains
L  mail address . So far so good. Here comes the tricky part:
L  sometimes i need to send mail to a bunch of co-workers(including
L  that person) and i want those messages to be excluded, in other words
L  in that case the send mail should not end up in that special
L  folder. That same person also belongs to a group and if i mail that
L  group, it should also not be moved to that folder. Which condition(s)
L  should i add to the filter?

If the group you mail to always contains the same people, you could
just add an AND condition that says does not contain John Doe,
assuming the group always contains John Doe.
 

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Re: filter question

[Luc]

Hello Stuart,
  
It was foretold that on 23-11-2004 @ 19:09:24 GMT-0600 (which was
2:09:24 where I live) Stuart Cuddy would write:
  
snipped a bit

SC If the group you mail to always contains the same people, you could
SC just add an AND condition that says does not contain John Doe,
SC assuming the group always contains John Doe.

Maybe it's better if i make it a bit more clear:

individual message to John Doe: no problem

Next two scenarios:

- message to various people (not always the same ones) but including
John Doe.

- message to the group, always including John Doe.

Now, in scenario two, your solution would work :-)

But i get a a feeling that in the first scenario a solution isn't
possible  (except maybe with regex but i'm not an expert on it)
 
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Re[2]: filter question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Luc,
Monday, November 22, 2004, 7:21:49 PM, you wrote:

L But i get a a feeling that in the first scenario a solution isn't
L possible  (except maybe with regex but i'm not an expert on it)

This is The Bat! There is always a way :)

Try this:

Header Field To: is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 If there is anything else in the To: field this will not be matched.

 This does not cover CC or BCC fields, so if you need that let me know
 and I will see what can be done with those.

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K9 Filter question

[Darrin Rich]

Hello,
Is it still a good choice for a filter for TB?. Havent used it for awhile.

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Re[2]: K9 Filter question

[Darrin Rich]

Hello Peter,

Monday, July 19, 2004, 11:02:54 AM, you wrote:

PM It seems to keep
PM learning pretty well.

I had a pretty good experience with it myself along time ago. Just
installed it again and am trying it out myself to see.

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Re: K9 Filter question

[Paul Cartwright]

On Monday, July 19, 2004, 2:02 PM, you wrote:


PM I have just set it up on a new machine, and after a week, there are no
PM more false positives, but still a few false negatives. It seems to keep
PM learning pretty well. :-
mine is at 97.95% accuracy, not the greatest, but it catched 30 and lets
3 in, that isn't too bad. Then I created a SPAM filter, that takes all
the mail my other filters don't catch, and that gets ALL the rest! it
also gets too many good emails, but I'm working on it:)

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Re: Another filter question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo M,

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:44:29 +0800GMT (10-7-2004, 6:44 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:


MIC However, despite the filter for parking my posts being
MIC above the generic filter, my messages aren't parked, just
MIC filtered, as per normal.

Roelof Should work. Just to be sure I tested a filter that moves and parks
Roelof over here and it worked as advertised.

MIC I deleted the filter, closed TheBat!, opened it again,
MIC re-created the filter, works fine.

MIC Software, I dunno :-)

Recently a filter of mine started grabbing all messages from people in
my AB in stead of all messages coming from a rather select group in my
AB.
Took some time before I realized what was happening and why.
I had reorganized my AB and had given one of my groups a slightly
different name.
The filter thought it was checking for a non existent AB group,
deleted that from the conditions and gave a match for everybody in my
AB. ;-)


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Re: Another filter question

[M i c C u l l e n]

On Monday, July 5, 2004 @ 8:27:25 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

[snips]

MIC With emails to the tbudl list, I've got two filters:
MIC 1) emails addressed to the list are sorted into the TheBat! folder, and

Roelof That's a straightforward filter, that should work.

Yep.

MIC 2) emails addressed to the list AND sent by me are sorted
MIC into the TheBat! folder and PARKED.

Roelof That's simple too, should also work.

That was what I thought, as well.

MIC However, despite the filter for parking my posts being
MIC above the generic filter, my messages aren't parked, just
MIC filtered, as per normal.

Roelof Should work. Just to be sure I tested a filter that moves and parks
Roelof over here and it worked as advertised.

I deleted the filter, closed TheBat!, opened it again, re-created the filter, works 
fine.

Software, I dunno :-)

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Filter question

[M i c C u l l e n]

G'day all,

A question to which I have not been able to find an answer. (One of the MANY that I 
would have no answers to if it were not for this list, as the documentation is 
seriously sub-standard, especially given what a terrific program it is.)

I filter all of my tbudl email into one folder. Some of the emails I keep (park), and 
every so often I move the parked emails into a sub-folder called (imaginatively) - 
'keep'.

What I would like to do is have the program automatically move the parked messages 
into the folder after a certain length of time. (Say, five days.)

In the 'advanced' tab of the filter I can tell it only to work if the message is 
parked, read and over 4 days old, but I have some difficulties:

1) what triggers the filter?

2) When running the filter manually, sometimes it moves the messages but sometimes it 
copies them, which is a major problem.

I have nothing in the filter string, rule is active, I am confused.

Answers gratefully accepted...

(As an aside, the organisation of filters in TheBat! leaves a LOT to be desired as 
well. Coming from Agent, where filter management was simple and clear, it was 
something of a shock to find that such powerful filters were so difficult to keep 
organised.)

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Re: Filter question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo M,

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:31:30 +0800GMT (4-7-2004, 14:31 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MIC What I would like to do is have the program automatically
MIC move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length
MIC of time. (Say, five days.)

You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by
triggering the filter manually.

MIC In the 'advanced' tab of the filter I can tell it only to
MIC work if the message is parked, read and over 4 days old, but I
MIC have some difficulties:

MIC 1) what triggers the filter?

The conditions of the filter (in the first place)
Combined with the message being received, read or answered (depending
on the filter) these are bypassed by executing the filter manually.

MIC 2) When running the filter manually, sometimes it moves the
MIC messages but sometimes it copies them, which is a major problem.

That's because your messages are parked, being parked means that they
won't be deleted, so moving ends in copying as the message appears in
the keep-folder but 'forgets' to disappear in the source folder.

Maybe it'll help if you set the filter to unpark the message.

MIC (As an aside, the organisation of filters in TheBat! leaves
MIC a LOT to be desired as well. Coming from Agent, where filter
MIC management was simple and clear, it was something of a shock to
MIC find that such powerful filters were so difficult to keep
MIC organised.)

Though I've used Agent only for news, I must say that I've never
really understood Agent's filtering mechanisms. I suppose it's part of
TB's filtering strength that the filters are executed in the order you
place them. As for keeping them organised, I'm using a couple of dummy
filters to divide my sorting office in sections, they're filters with
an impossible condition, like  in
recipient, but as names they're using long strings as this:
 Mailinglists **
That means that while browsing through the sorting office I easily
find my filters for mailing lists, for AB filters, etc

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Re: Filter question

[M i c C u l l e n]

On Sunday, July 4, 2004 @ 11:39:55 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

[snips]

MIC What I would like to do is have the program automatically
MIC move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length
MIC of time. (Say, five days.)

Roelof You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by
Roelof triggering the filter manually.

Ah, pain. OK, can I set all my manual filters to the same hotkey to trigger them? (I 
can then surely find a way to get my macro program to trigger them - annoying, but a 
solution...)

MIC In the 'advanced' tab of the filter I can tell it only to
MIC work if the message is parked, read and over 4 days old, but I
MIC have some difficulties:

MIC 1) what triggers the filter?

Roelof The conditions of the filter (in the first place)
Roelof Combined with the message being received, read or answered (depending
Roelof on the filter) these are bypassed by executing the filter manually.

Thanks, but I meant what makes it trigger automatically, like it being midnight, or 
the like, not the filter conditions. Languages are fun :-)

MIC 2) When running the filter manually, sometimes it moves the
MIC messages but sometimes it copies them, which is a major problem.

Roelof That's because your messages are parked, being parked means that they
Roelof won't be deleted, so moving ends in copying as the message appears in
Roelof the keep-folder but 'forgets' to disappear in the source folder.

Very annoying, given that I've told the filter to MOVE the PARKED messages - it's 
pretty explicit.

Roelof Maybe it'll help if you set the filter to unpark the message.

Then it'll move everything over the age limit, not just the parked messages, as 
they'll no longer be parked? I need to test this later today with a dummy folder and 
copied messages.

MIC (As an aside, the organisation of filters in TheBat! leaves
MIC a LOT to be desired as well. Coming from Agent, where filter
MIC management was simple and clear, it was something of a shock to
MIC find that such powerful filters were so difficult to keep
MIC organised.)

Roelof Though I've used Agent only for news, I must say that I've never
Roelof really understood Agent's filtering mechanisms.

Very elegant, really - filters have a priority of 1-1000, and the closer to 1000 the 
number is, the higher up the list it is, and the earlier it is executed.

Roelof I suppose it's part of
Roelof TB's filtering strength that the filters are executed in the order you
Roelof place them.

Same as Agent.

Roelof As for keeping them organised, I'm using a couple of dummy
Roelof filters to divide my sorting office in sections, they're filters with
Roelof an impossible condition, like  in
Roelof recipient, but as names they're using long strings as this:
Roelof  Mailinglists **
Roelof That means that while browsing through the sorting office I easily
Roelof find my filters for mailing lists, for AB filters, etc

Seriously clunky work around, though. (Although I might have to adopt it :-)

The other advantage of Agent's filters are that they are in a normal resizable window, 
not just a tiny box, and they're searchable, which is a huge plus.

Don't get me wrong, the filtering in TheBat! is very powerful, it's just that like the 
documentation, it could do with a lot of improving in various areas.

Thanks for your help.

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Another filter question

[M i c C u l l e n]

G'day all.

He's what I would have thought was a simple one, but I can't seem to get it to work.

With emails to the tbudl list, I've got two filters:

1) emails addressed to the list are sorted into the TheBat! folder, and

2) emails addressed to the list AND sent by me are sorted into the TheBat! folder 
and PARKED.

However, despite the filter for parking my posts being above the generic filter, my 
messages aren't parked, just filtered, as per normal.

Any ideas?

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Re: Filter question

[Robin Anson]

On Mon 5 July 2004, 1:39:55 +1000, Roelof Otten wrote:
MIC What I would like to do is have the program automatically
MIC move the parked messages into the folder after a certain length
MIC of time. (Say, five days.)
 
 You can't do that automatically, however you could do that by
 triggering the filter manually.

There might be another approach, a bit clumsy but it can be automated,
using command line parameters. You could start up TB! using a command
line batch file (look in the help file for details) that exported certain
parked messages from the folder, and imported them into another.

The main problem appears to be that although you can specify an age in
days, it only exports those younger that that age.

You would have to export and delete ALL parked messages from your tbudl
folder to your keep folder, and then re-export and delete the younger
messages from keep back to tbudl.

If you start up TB! on a daily (or more frequent) basis, that should do
what you need.

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Re: Another filter question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo M,

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 08:12:15 +0800GMT (5-7-2004, 2:12 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MIC With emails to the tbudl list, I've got two filters:
MIC 1) emails addressed to the list are sorted into the TheBat! folder, and

That's a straightforward filter, that should work.

MIC 2) emails addressed to the list AND sent by me are sorted
MIC into the TheBat! folder and PARKED.

That's simple too, should also work.

MIC However, despite the filter for parking my posts being
MIC above the generic filter, my messages aren't parked, just
MIC filtered, as per normal.

Should work. Just to be sure I tested a filter that moves and parks
over here and it worked as advertised.

Could you post your filter to the list? (Just to check for mistakes.)

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Re: Filter Question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Russell,

On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:50:09 -0500GMT (26-5-04, 22:50 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RLF I'm a bit confused as to what they were formatted for. The
RLF BeginFilter and EndFilter indicate it is part of some
RLF program. If not, how would you go about using it in the current
RLF version of TB.

I don't know the site you saw these filters, but TB allows you to copy
and paste filters from the sorting office to a text editor and back.

Go to the sorting office
Select a filter
Press Ctrl-C (don't use the 'copy'-button that duplicates the filter)
Go to a text editor (eg a new message in TB)
Press  Ctrl-V

Now you'll find a filter in text format, this is an example from my
filters:

BeginFilter
Name: Familieleden
Active: 1
Source: \\roelof\Inbox
Target: \\roelof\Familie\Familiepost
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 00@
Actions: faoAdvAddressIn,faoAdvAddressInGroups
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: Familie
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

In order to copy this filter into your sorting office, you select it
(including the BeginFilter and EndFilter) copy it (Ctrl-C or
whatever), go to the sorting office and paste it with Ctrl-V (no other
way)
Though you can copy only one filter at a time from the sorting office,
you can paste multiple filters to the sorting office in one sweep.


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Re[2]: Filter Question

[Russell L. Farabee]

Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 5:53:25 PM, you wrote:

RO I don't know the site you saw these filters, but TB allows you to copy
RO and paste filters from the sorting office to a text editor and back.

RO Go to the sorting office
RO Select a filter
RO Press Ctrl-C (don't use the 'copy'-button that duplicates the filter)
RO Go to a text editor (eg a new message in TB)
RO Press  Ctrl-V .

That's what I needed to know.  Now it makes sense.  I was beginning to wonder
how you could type a really long string.

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Re: Filter Question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Russell,

On Wed, 26 May 2004 17:58:57 -0500GMT (27-5-04, 0:58 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RLF Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 5:53:25 PM, you wrote:

Well, actually I have to correct you on that. It was Thursday, May 27,
0:53 AM when (and where) I wrote that.

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Filter question

[Gerard]

Hi Bat Users,

I use TB! filters to search for pn# in e-mails when they arrive.
The problem is not everybody writes them as the should, or how the
manufacturer uses them. The result is a number of variations. Here is an
example

- 23456-B21
- 23456 B21
- 23456b21


I have the feeling I could use regex here instead of listing all the
possible variations. My question is can this be doen and what impact will
this have in the filtering speed. WIll regex slow it down or make it
quicker then searching for 3/4 variaions?

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Sorting filter question

[Gerard]

Hi Bat Users,

Can someone tell me how I can filter on Intel and not get a positive
on Intelligent?

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Re: Sorting filter question

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Gerard,

@11-Dec-2003, 13:23 +0100 (11-Dec 12:23 UK time) Gerard said to The:

 Can someone tell me how I can filter on Intel and not get a
 positive on Intelligent?

The answer is in help for Sorting office - special filter strings.

Square brackets [ ] mean that text enclosed by them will be
searched for as a phrase. i.e. search for [Jack] will be
successful for the sentence Jack is a good man, but not for
Jackson guitars are very good for beginners.

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Filter question

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello tbudl,

  I have added tbudl mailing list address to my address book and it
  filters into my Inbox Known folder. The Known filter has a check
  box at he bottom that says Continue processing with other filters.
  Since I want to have these particular emails go into a seperate
  folder I have created a rule that sends all tbudl messages to that
  folder. Unfortunatly they all still end up in the Inbox Known,
  because the checkmark won't stay in the above mentioned check box.
  Any ideas or is this a bug.


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Re: Filter question

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Stuart,

@11-Nov-2003, 13:01 -0600 (11-Nov 19:01 UK time) Stuart Cuddy said:

 The Known filter has a check box at he bottom that says
 Continue processing with other filters.

Oops. That's a mistake. Once a filter has moved a message out of the
inbox, continuation is pointless. The message is no longer there to
*be* processed by any other filter!

 Since I want to have these particular emails go into a seperate
 folder I have created a rule that sends all tbudl messages to that
 folder.

You'll have to move that one above the Known filter - that's the
only way it will ever get to see the messages.

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Re: Filter question

[Chris]

On Tuesday, November 11, 2003 at 2:29:59 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote
in the message Filter question
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Known filter has a check box at he bottom that says Continue
 processing with other filters.

 Oops. That's a mistake. Once a filter has moved a message out of the
 inbox, continuation is pointless. The message is no longer there to
 *be* processed by any other filter!

Then that box needs to be removed or Continue processing with other
filters needs to work.

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Re: Filter question

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Chris,

@11-Nov-2003, 17:32 -0500 (11-Nov 22:32 UK time) Chris [C] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

 The Known filter has a check box at he bottom that says
 Continue processing with other filters.

 ... Once a filter has moved a message out of the inbox,
 continuation is pointless ...

C Then that box needs to be removed or Continue processing with
C other filters needs to work.

Not at all. The box should (maybe) be disabled if a filter is
configured to move messages out of the inbox. But remember that
filters do different things when run as a re-filter operation.

No, I'm satisfied that the only thing wrong here is the
understanding of what the Continue option means in the context of
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Filter question

[P.Johnson]

Hello,
Is there any reason why TB! would not automatically filter a message
(when Manual only is not ticked in the filter rule) but will do so when
asked to Re-filter Messages (Folderright click)?

I find my incoming filters failing me more and more lately... just not
working in many cases. Could the adding of a new rule upset the system
somehow (for example, by changing the order of the rules)? In the
Sorting Office under the Options tab, should I always have the
Continue processing with other filters box checked?

One of my accounts is used for outgoing messages only, but shares an
incoming account. For some reason all the incoming mail is duplicated
into that account inbox, even though I have rules set up to allow
only specific incoming messages.

When I add a new rule I just enter the information step by step and
double-check it all, but am not having a lot of success. Any advice
would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Filter question

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi P,

@31-Oct-2003, 12:24 -0600 (18:24 UK time) P.Johnson said:

 Is there any reason why TB! would not automatically filter a
 message (when Manual only is not ticked in the filter rule) but
 will do so when asked to Re-filter Messages (Folderright click)?

Sometimes rules used to get corrupted. I would often have to
re-create a rule from scratch to get it to work again. No amount of
tweaking would put it right.

 ... Could the adding of a new rule upset the system somehow (for
 example, by changing the order of the rules)?

It's possible.

 In the Sorting Office under the Options tab, should I always have
 the Continue processing with other filters box checked?

Certainly not. It's very much a special case option. Normally a
rule has moved a message and it's no longer in the Inbox to process
any further with other filters.

 ... I have rules set up to allow only specific incoming messages.

Where? In Selective download filters? I don't really understand
how you have done that. You would have to either selectively
download messages you want or have inbox filters to delete messages
you don't want after download. Why not just suppress download on
that account completely and let the primary account move the
relevant messages across the account boundary?

 When I add a new rule I just enter the information step by step
 and double-check it all, but am not having a lot of success. Any
 advice would be greatly appreciated!

It's hard to tell what you are trying to achieve.

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Re[2]: Filter question

[P.Johnson]

Marck,

 Is there any reason why TB! would not automatically filter a
 message (when Manual only is not ticked in the filter rule) but
 will do so when asked to Re-filter Messages (Folderright click)?

M Sometimes rules used to get corrupted. I would often have to
M re-create a rule from scratch to get it to work again. No amount of
M tweaking would put it right.

I didn't realize this happened. Too bad this is the case, but it's
important to know.

 In the Sorting Office under the Options tab, should I always have
 the Continue processing with other filters box checked?

M Certainly not. It's very much a special case option. Normally a
M rule has moved a message and it's no longer in the Inbox to process
M any further with other filters.

Thanks for clarifying that too.

M Where? In Selective download filters? I don't really understand
M how you have done that.

What I meant to say is that many of my messages come through one of
the accounts (Account A) and are filtered through to folders in other
accounts. Fine. These messages coming through Account A are also
duplicated to another account inbox (Account X). Account X shares the
same pop account with Account A, which I guess is why this occurs.
Account X uses different From and Reply To addresses for a separate
business. Now I've set up a filter that trashes all the dupes except
those addressed to the business. Is this the most efficient way to do
this? Am I clear as mud?

M It's hard to tell what you are trying to achieve.

Just trying to navigate the land of the filters successfully, Marck.
:-) There seems to be something about it I just can't grasp easily.
Sorry to be so slow. These early filter difficulties are similar to
ones I had in a different mail program (which also promised an
excellent filter system) which was one of the reasons I abandoned it.

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Re: Filter question

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello P.Johnson,

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:26:33 -0600 GMT (01/11/2003, 05:26 +0700 GMT),
P.Johnson wrote:

 What I meant to say is that many of my messages come through one of
 the accounts (Account A) and are filtered through to folders in other
 accounts. Fine. These messages coming through Account A are also
 duplicated to another account inbox (Account X). Account X shares the
 same pop account with Account A, which I guess is why this occurs.

So they are not duplicated by way of a TB filter.

 Account X uses different From and Reply To addresses for a separate
 business. Now I've set up a filter that trashes all the dupes except
 those addressed to the business. Is this the most efficient way to do
 this?

Not, it isn't. Since they are the same POP box, you need to check them
with only one TB account.

But you don't need to create different accounts in TB for different
identities either. I use alias addresses for my main address as well,
and I have all of them in the same account. However, the different
mail aliases have different purposes, so the mails end up in different
folders. These folder then have different settings under:

Folder / Properties / Identity

Maybe you want to check out this way of dealing with it?

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Re: Filter question

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi P,

@31-Oct-2003, 16:26 -0600 (22:26 UK time) P.Johnson said to Marck:

M Sometimes rules used to get corrupted. I would often have to
M re-create a rule from scratch to get it to work again.

 I didn't realize this happened. Too bad this is the case, but it's
 important to know.

I haven't had it happen for a long time, mind, so this could just be
a red herring.

 .. These messages coming through Account A are also duplicated to
 another account inbox (Account X). Account X shares the same pop
 account with Account A, which I guess is why this occurs. Account
 X uses different From and Reply To addresses for a separate
 business.

You don't need this degree of separation with TB. Keep them all
together and segregate by folder and use an account reply template
that sets reply-to and from addresses according to the original
recipient of the message:

%REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-
%FROM=''%FROM='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-

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Re: Filter question

[George Mitchell]

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 You don't need this degree of separation with TB. Keep them all
 together and segregate by folder and use an account reply template
 that sets reply-to and from addresses according to the original
 recipient of the message:

 %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-
 %FROM=''%FROM='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-

Isn't that pretty dangerous?  Using that template, suppose you reply to
a message that was CC'd to you, or one where your address wasn't the
first one in a list of address in the To field.  Wouldn't you be
replying using someone else's address?

I posted a question about my attempt at a workable template for this a
week ago, but got no replies. :-(

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Re: Filter question

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi George,

@31-Oct-2003, 18:35 -0800 (01-Nov 02:35 UK time) George Mitchell
said:

 You don't need this degree of separation with TB. Keep them all
 together and segregate by folder and use an account reply
 template that sets reply-to and from addresses according to the
 original recipient of the message:

 %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-
 %FROM=''%FROM='P. Johnson %OTOADDR'%-

 Isn't that pretty dangerous?  Using that template, suppose you
 reply to a message that was CC'd to you, or one where your address
 wasn't the first one in a list of address in the To field.
 Wouldn't you be replying using someone else's address?

Oh yes, but this was a response to a *specific* situation when
replying to mails known to be sent *to* a specific address. This
solution can be fine tuned for any application using advice from the
gurus on TBTECH for a regex to make a better decision about what to
put.

With TBv2 the template macros come alive and are almost a
programming language. Which you have already discovered...

 I posted a question about my attempt at a workable template for
 this a week ago, but got no replies. :-(

It's probably too advanced for the UDL forum. I will have another
look at it and see if I can offer any helpful hints.

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Re: Filter question

[George Mitchell]

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 I posted a question about my attempt at a workable template for
 this a week ago, but got no replies. :-(

 It's probably too advanced for the UDL forum. I will have another
 look at it and see if I can offer any helpful hints.

Much appreciated.  I was going to try TBTECH, but got a bit distracted
this week by the fires here in the San Diego area.

I have since tried variations of the ToAll macro you posted in the
Macro and QT repository with some success, but am having trouble
handling all cases.

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Filter question

[Adam]

In TB 2.0, in Sorting Office, on the options tab, there is an option
This rule is executed only by pressing the hotkey.  The option is
not listed in TB 1.6. I am wondering, how does TB 1.6 behave?  How
would you specify that the filter does not execute just anytime, along
with all the other filters?

And how do you tell a filter not to move messages elsewhere?

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Re: Filter question

[Vishal]

Hi Adam

Monday, October 13, 2003, 2:41:14 PM, you wrote:


A And how do you tell a filter not to move messages elsewhere?

If Inbox is the folder where the mails arrive, move to Inbox should do the
trick.



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Re: Filter question

[Urban]

Monday, October 13, 2003, Adam wrote:

 In TB 2.0, in Sorting Office, on the options tab, there is an option
 This rule is executed only by pressing the hotkey. snip
 I am wondering, how does TB 1.6 behave? How would you specify that the
 filter does not execute just anytime, along with all the other
 filters?

You made a manual filter and gave it a hotkey. Then you made sure /not/
to mark manual filters when you refiltered a folder.

 And how do you tell a filter not to move messages elsewhere?

Can't do that. What you can do, however, is to simulate it by moving the
filtered messages to the same folder as the source folder

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Gerrit,

Sunday, October 5, 2003, 12:49:02 AM, you wrote:

GK You could add the other line in your first filter with presence
GK no. That will di i think. Are you sure it is not crossposted?


moderator

This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to
the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated
this reply. Please don't feel singled out Gerrit.

Please trim replies to context. Try to cut out as much of the original
text as possible in your replies so that your response is targeted to
specific items in the message you are replying to. You don't
necessarily need four layers of quoted material to respond to the last
comment made. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has
been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the
quoted text, and/or the PGP signature.

We have list archives for the purposes of being able to go back to
view the entire thread contents.

Thank you.

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Filter question (MyGate)

[John Phillips]

Hi Bat! Fans,

Using MyGate to download  upload from /to news groups, just a filter
question.

I am subscribing to news groups aus.comms and aus.comms.mobile.

If a message is cross posted to both of these news groups, it is
sorted, with my current filters to both news groups, causing dupes.

In other words, I am receiving in both of the above news groups the
original message destined for the news group, plus the original.

The filter for aus.comms is as follows:

Move to inbox   aus\.comms[|,|\n]  Location Recipient  Presence Yes
Options continue processing with other filters; Regular expressions

Filter for aus.comms.mobile is similar except for
aus\.comms\.mobile[|,|\n] as Recipient.

Filters set up basically as advised in this list by Michael from
Spain.

Can anyone see problems with above?  How do I stop the dupes?


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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

[Gerrit Kruijer]

Hello John,

Sunday, October 5, 2003, 8:14:40 AM, you wrote:


John Hi Bat! Fans,

John Using MyGate to download  upload from /to news groups, just a filter
John question.

John I am subscribing to news groups aus.comms and aus.comms.mobile.

John If a message is cross posted to both of these news groups, it is
John sorted, with my current filters to both news groups, causing dupes.

John In other words, I am receiving in both of the above news groups the
John original message destined for the news group, plus the original.

John The filter for aus.comms is as follows:

John Move to inbox   aus\.comms[|,|\n]  Location Recipient  Presence Yes
John Options continue processing with other filters; Regular expressions

John Filter for aus.comms.mobile is similar except for
aus\.comms\.mobile[|,|\n] as Recipient.

John Filters set up basically as advised in this list by Michael from
John Spain.

John Can anyone see problems with above?  How do I stop the dupes?


You could add the other line in your first filter with presence no.
That will di i think.
Are you sure it is not crossposted?


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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

[Andrew Perevodchik]

Hello!

JP Move to inbox   aus\.comms[|,|\n]  Location Recipient  Presence Yes
JP Options continue processing with other filters; Regular expressions

Filter on X-MyGate-MID. It has colon (:) after group name.

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

[MAU]

Hello John,

 Using MyGate to download  upload from /to news groups, just a filter
 question.

If you are using the latest version 2.5, then do as Andrew Perevodchik
tells you and filter on X-MyGate-MID header. That is exactly what he
included it for in 2.5.

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

[John Phillips]

Hi MAU,
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 10:14:19 [GMT+0200] (which was 18:14:19
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:



 If you are using the latest version 2.5, then do as Andrew Perevodchik
 tells you and filter on X-MyGate-MID header. That is exactly what he
 included it for in 2.5.


Now doing that.  Filtering on the  MID header in Kludges.

Problem still exists, but now different g

Cross posted to aus.comms  aus.comms.mobile now all land in
aus.comms.

Something I am missing here?

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

[Michal Kosinski]

B-stok/PL, Sunday, October 5, 2003

Hello John,

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 19:50:40 (which was 11:50 where I live)
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:

JP Cross posted to aus.comms  aus.comms.mobile now all land in
JP aus.comms.  Something I am missing here?

You're missing a colon.
Filter by aus.comms:  aus.comms.mobile: not aus.comms 
aus.comms.mobile



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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

[John Phillips]

Hi Michal,
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 12:22:24 [GMT+0200] (which was 20:22:24
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:



 You're missing a colon.
 Filter by aus.comms:  aus.comms.mobile: not aus.comms 
 aus.comms.mobile



Thanjs.  Will try.

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Re: Filter question (MyGate)

[John Phillips]

Hi Michal,
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003, at 12:22:24 [GMT+0200] (which was 20:22:24
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:

 You're missing a colon.
 Filter by aus.comms:  aus.comms.mobile: not aus.comms 
 aus.comms.mobile

Works a treat.  Thanks!

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Filter Question

[Dennis W. Greer]

Hello TheBat! List,

At the moment I am filtering on MailMXPro2 in kludges. What would work
better, that is not give false trashings? BTW not all the spam
messages from this source are from jenny bear.

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 (ORCPT [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:01:57 -0700 (PDT)  
Received: from bak.rr.com ([61.53.138.94])
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Received: from qiwen [61.53.138.94] by bak.rr.com with MailMXPro2(2195.5294)
 ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:22:32 +0800 
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:22:32 +0800
From: jenny bear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how have ya been
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: mxMAILPro
Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
X-Priority: 3 
Abuse2-Tracking: ZGdyZWVyQGJhay5yci5jb20=
X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine
Original-recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-SpamPal: PASS
  

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Re: Simple filter question

[Allie Martin]

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Günter Minnerup, [GM] wrote:

GM I'm trying to set up a filter to move all messages older than a
GM certain number of days from a folder (by using re-filter) to the
GM Inbox folder in a different account named Archive. I've set up a
GM Read messages filter which has no rules except to specify the
GM folder to move the messages to, set it to manual, and specify the
GM option older than xxx days. When I use the filter to re-filter a
GM particular folder, nothing is filtered.

GM Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such
string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes

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Re: Simple filter question

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AM Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such
AM string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes
We see this so often I wonder if we should just ask Stefan for a
'Match All Messages' option on the filters.

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Re: Simple filter question

[Gnter Minnerup]

On Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:13:52 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such
 string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes

No I didn't - thought leaving the string match blank would do it.
Thanks!

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Re: Simple filter question

[Gnter Minnerup]

On Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:21:22 PM, Stuart Hemming wrote:

 We see this so often I wonder if we should just ask Stefan for a
 'Match All Messages' option on the filters.

Well yes, that would make it clearer...

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Re: Simple filter question

[Gnter Minnerup]

On Monday, June 30, 2003, 8:13:52 PM, Allie Martin wrote:

 Did you enter a string match that would catch all messages. One such
 string is 'e', Location: Kludges and Presence: Yes

Still no luck. Where is this use of 'e' documented?

Regards,
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