Printing: either the right side or the bottom was clipped

2013-12-15 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
I printed out the receipt for an on-line order. The right side was
clipped, so I reprinted it in Landscape. Now the last few lines are
clipped. Well, I could take the last few lines from the portrait copy
and combine it with the Landscape copy, but these three lines in the
Portrait copy are right-wiped.

Other than pasting the entire message into Word, is there a solution
in TheBat?

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Printing from the image viewer window

2010-04-29 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello,

Is it possible to print from TheBat's image preview window? I keep
getting caught out, hitting ctrl-p while looking at something only for
the text portion to be printed.

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Re: Printing from the image viewer window

2010-04-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Nick,

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:15:45 +0100 GMT (29/Apr/10, 22:15 PM +0700 GMT),
Nick Dutton wrote:

ND Is it possible to print from TheBat's image preview window? I keep
ND getting caught out, hitting ctrl-p while looking at something only for
ND the text portion to be printed.

No, I haven't able to do that. What I do is right-click on the
attachment icon in the message view, the context menu will offer an
option to print.

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Re: Printing from the image viewer window

2010-04-29 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, April 29, 2010, you wrote:
ND Is it possible to print from TheBat's image preview window? I keep
ND getting caught out, hitting ctrl-p while looking at something only for
ND the text portion to be printed.

TF No, I haven't able to do that. What I do is right-click on the
TF attachment icon in the message view, the context menu will offer an
TF option to print.

Ah - great solution. That saves me the pain of having to save/print
everything.

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Re: Printing from the image viewer window

2010-04-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Nick,

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:42:15 +0100 GMT (29/Apr/10, 22:42 PM +0700 GMT),
Nick Dutton wrote:

TF What I do is right-click on the attachment icon in the message
TF view, the context menu will offer an option to print.

ND Ah - great solution. That saves me the pain of having to save/print
ND everything.

ND Thanks for the speedy response,

You're most welcome.

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Printing problem

2010-04-22 Thread Harald Faber
Hi all,
since several versions I suffer from a strange behaviour concerning printing.
I can only print once. If I try it for another time, nothing happens. Not even 
the print dialog opens. I always have to restart TheBat. Any hints?
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Re: Printing problem

2010-04-22 Thread Alexander E. Gutman
Hello, friends.

Harald Faber (HF) 22.04.2010 (14:43):

HF since several versions I suffer from
HF a strange behaviour concerning printing.
HF I can only print once.
HF If I try it for another time, nothing happens.
HF Not even the print dialog opens.
HF I always have to restart TheBat.

Printing works just fine in my 4.2.33.9.

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Re: Printing problem

2010-04-22 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Harald,
  A reminder of what Harald Faber typed on:
  Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 09:43:07 GMT +0200

HF since several versions I suffer from a strange behaviour concerning 
printing.
HF I can only print once. If I try it for another time, nothing happens. Not
HF even the print dialog opens. I always have to restart TheBat. Any hints?

Are you using Windows 7 by any chance. This has happened to me when I made the 
switch, however it has now corrected itself.

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Re: Printing problem

2010-04-22 Thread REZK945
Hi Stuart,

am Donnerstag, 22. April 2010 um 14:43 schrieben Sie:

 Hello Harald,
   A reminder of what Harald Faber typed on:
   Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 09:43:07 GMT +0200

HF since several versions I suffer from a strange behaviour concerning 
printing.
HF I can only print once. If I try it for another time, nothing happens. Not
HF even the print dialog opens. I always have to restart TheBat. Any hints?

 Are you using Windows 7 by any chance. This has happened to me when I made the
 switch, however it has now corrected itself.

This happens under Windows XP home with TheBat 4.2.33.9 professional but also
happened with previous TheBat versions. I hooped for solution for some
TB versions now. ^^

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Re: Printing problem

2009-10-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Harald,

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 07:29:05 +0200 GMT (01/Oct/09, 12:29 PM +0700 GMT),
rezk...@gmx.de wrote:


Rgd Hi all,
Rgd is this a known issue that TheBat (4.2.10.1 pro) has problems with
Rgd printing?

No, not known over here.

Rgd I haven't found out when this happens, but it occurs
Rgd occasionally that when I setup the printer settings, followed by
Rgd print, nothing happens. I am almost sure that this also happens
Rgd without using the printer setup before printing. When I restart TheBat
Rgd and try to print, everything is fine.

I have not experienced this, nor heard of it. Can you tell us a bit
more about your configuration: Windows version, printer brand and
model, printer on PC or network printer?

Rgd Any explanation? Can I find a protocol, logfile or errorfile
Rgd somewhere?

If nothing happens, I guess no log will be generated. But you could
look whether you have a file starting with exceptions (and then
something, I forgot) in your TB! directory. This is where TB! writes
any errors to.

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Printing problem

2009-09-30 Thread REZK945
Hi all,
is this a known issue that TheBat (4.2.10.1 pro) has problems with
printing? I haven't found out when this happens, but it occurs
occasionally that when I setup the printer settings, followed by
print, nothing happens. I am almost sure that this also happens
without using the printer setup before printing. When I restart TheBat
and try to print, everything is fine.

Any explanation? Can I find a protocol, logfile or errorfile
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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-14 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Vili,

   -- Sonntag, 30. November 2008, 18:55:02:


 - first we simply import the CHM into HelpManual (I tried it, works,
 some formatting does not come over). Advantage of HM is that we can
 create PDF very easily, etc. Ok, so at this point we have a PDF v0.

 - some people go over it and decide which parts to change, what extra
 parts to write

 - those people decide who corrects/writes those parts

 - everybody does his job by the deadline the people agree

 [...]

May I suggest that you open a place at site.google.com where anyone
who participates can do his/here editing without moving the file. This
prevents that there are too many files wandering around and no one
knows really what or where is the last version.


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-14 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Eddie,

Sunday, December 14, 2008, 6:36:20 AM, you wrote:

EC May I suggest that you open a place at site.google.com where anyone
EC who participates can do his/here editing without moving the file. This
EC prevents that there are too many files wandering around and no one
EC knows really what or where is the last version.

I searched the past thread on this subject and didn't see your name in
any of the posts so you may not be aware of what was discussed.
Although, I may have lost some of the posts due to automatic purging.
When this thread started on 11/28 several suggestions were made but
apparently no consensus was reached. I suggested the following
submitted here for your perusal:

- copy of message sent to list 11/30 -

Fellow list members,

I've been following this thread since the beginning and find it
unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki (similar to WIKI I suppose)
for TBUDP (The Bat! User Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE
website (http://www.pcwize.com/).

The following link will take you directly to the TBUDP page:

http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php

Since this project has already been started, it would seem that it
falls directly in line with what every one in this thread is asking
for. I've discovered that once you have registered, you are allowed to
create new, and edit existing, pages.

Would a printable manual really be necessary if one could always go to
this site for answers to TB how-to questions? And if a printable
manual is preferable to on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI
could be printed in some sort of hard-copy manual.

Just curious.

 end copy 

I'm not sure if a Tiki tracks edits the way a Wiki does but if it's
the same, then all edits would be recorded including who the author of
the edit was.

My apologies if you've already seen this post.


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-14 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Jack,

   -- Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008, 15:09:25:


EC May I suggest that you open a place at site.google.com where
EC anyone who participates can do his/here editing without moving
EC the file. This prevents that there are too many files wandering
EC around and no one knows really what or where is the last version.

 I searched the past thread on this subject and didn't see your name
 in any of the posts so you may not be aware of what was discussed.
 Although, I may have lost some of the posts due to automatic
 purging. When this thread started on 11/28 several suggestions were
 made but apparently no consensus was reached. I suggested the
 following submitted here for your perusal:

 - copy of message sent to list 11/30 -

Thanks for resending. On 11/28 I wasn't online anymore due to a very
bad 'flue' my system caught. Today I downloaded all posts that where
coming in but found only One posting from you (see msid below). Did
you send it to this list?

mid:1133248758.20081130144...@charter.net


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-14 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Eddie,

Sunday, December 14, 2008, 9:28:04 AM, you wrote:

EC Dear Jack,

EC-- Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008, 15:09:25:


 - copy of message sent to list 11/30 -

EC Reading /and/ understanding what you read doesn't work as is should al
EC time. I just figure out that you made a copy of the your post into
EC your response to me. A first and (too) quick look made me believe it
EC was another posting.

No problem. It's awfully early on a Sunday morning to expect our
brains to function 100%. I know mine doesn't.

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-14 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Jack,

   -- Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008, 15:09:25:


 - copy of message sent to list 11/30 -

Reading /and/ understanding what you read doesn't work as is should al
time. I just figure out that you made a copy of the your post into
your response to me. A first and (too) quick look made me believe it
was another posting.


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-02 Thread Dierk Haasis
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:31:39 +, Privateofcourse
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Yes, me too! However, the difference is that the manual that users are
proposing to produce here is a printable manual, not an electronic manual
for viewing/reading on a monitor.

Actually it is no more difficult to offer a printable PDF or HTML for
download than it is to come up with the CHM file. Apart from some
rather minor formatting [page breaks can be awkward] the only downside
for RITLabs is the additional traffic the PDF will generate - since
many will download it.

I'd gladly offer the PDF version if

a) RITLabs agrees [either in public or by written statement] that I am
allowed to do so,
b) RITLabs provides me with good JPEGs of their logo and one or two
image variations of the bat so I can polish up the PDF a bit.

A quick test run yesterday showed that there's one very annoying
formatting problem, which I think I can tackle in relatively short
time [hence: do it for free]. If it turns out I have to put in more
than a reasonable amount of time I will say so and either not produce
the PDF or ask for a little bit of compensation.

After all, The Bat! is a commercial product and my time is precious,
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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-02 Thread tracer
Well, I seem to remember LOADS of special pictures of the Bat over the
years. Not sure how many there were but I thought many since the begin if
you add special events!With many converting programs existing its just a
matter of finding the correct ones.


 Actually it is no more difficult to offer a printable PDF or HTML for
 download than it is to come up with the CHM file. Apart from some
 rather minor formatting [page breaks can be awkward] the only downside
 for RITLabs is the additional traffic the PDF will generate - since
 many will download it.


Compress it and it should make all the difference, or no difference I
mean...
No idea how winzip 12 behaves in practice. I tried it the last few days but
it seems a bit slow... However if conversion from Sony to LIT and PDF is
anything to compare with, it should be fast.
Converting a cd with Sony format to LIT took not much time... Obviously some
files were of the type which will not correctly convert automatic... I used
some Bean cd's for the test... (books)

A quick test run yesterday showed that there's one very annoying
 formatting problem, which I think I can tackle in relatively short
 time [hence: do it for free]. If it turns out I have to put in more
 than a reasonable amount of time I will say so and either not produce
 the PDF or ask for a little bit of compensation.

 After all, The Bat! is a commercial product and my time is precious,
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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-01 Thread Privateofcourse
Hello Peter,

This is what you said on Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:35:48 +0100 your time:

 Shouldn't Ritlabs produce manuals for their software?

At first I was going to say I 100% agree, but then I thought about it some
more and decided that I didn't 100% agree after all.

 I find it odd that users need to produce manuals for a commercial software
 product.

Yes, me too! However, the difference is that the manual that users are
proposing to produce here is a printable manual, not an electronic manual
for viewing/reading on a monitor.

 Freeware/open source, yes; payware, no.

Indeed, TB! isn't OS software, as you say, but it does come with a manual.
Okay, TB!'s manual hasn't always been the best, and over the many years I
have been using TB! the manual has received much criticism from users, but
that's something else entirely...another topic.

It seems to me that the manual being discussed here is a 'printable manual',
which is something entirely different to an electronic manual supplied with
the software...as TB! has one of those. User's getting together to produce a
'free' (I would hope) 'print ready' manual for TB! is a project that doesn't
necessarily have anything to do with the authors of TB!

Many software vendors charge extra for printed versions of their manuals,
granted, but not all vendors actually provide printed or printable versions
of their manuals. This usually opens up the doors for third parties to make
a bit of money, and as we all know the manual writing business is rather
lucrative.

So if TB! users want to get it together and produce a completely _free_
comprehensive, exhaustive, print ready manual for other TB! users then I
fully support the project. Well, as long as it is organised properly, and
the finished product can be thoroughly checked for errors and validated by
other 'expert users'.

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-12-01 Thread tracer
With the right software  any manual you can look at can be printed
It may not be your taste but it will print.



 Indeed, TB! isn't OS software, as you say, but it does come with a manual.
 Okay, TB!'s manual hasn't always been the best, and over the many years I
 have been using TB! the manual has received much criticism from users, but
 that's something else entirely...another topic.


From the very begin I seem to remember I printed it out...
Ok, on a mainframe...(g) on a laser printer...




 It seems to me that the manual being discussed here is a 'printable
 manual',
 which is something entirely different to an electronic manual supplied with
 the software...as TB! has one of those. User's getting together to produce
 a
 'free' (I would hope) 'print ready' manual for TB! is a project that
 doesn't
 necessarily have anything to do with the authors of TB!


If you use a help file as starter it likely will have something to do with
them.



 Many software vendors charge extra for printed versions of their manuals,
 granted, but not all vendors actually provide printed or printable versions
 of their manuals. This usually opens up the doors for third parties to make
 a bit of money, and as we all know the manual writing business is rather
 lucrative.


It can be but not if you have to fix up whatever someone doesn't likes...


 What surprises me is that the moderators who know about the product as
their names are on the website haven't bothered to interfere...
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Re[4]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Chrille
Hello tracer,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 08:57:06, you wrote:

 You may not believe it but I can read and understand Swedish and Danish. No
 Norwegian though and no Finnish! I just never had the need to try and
 read/understand it.I have a few Swedish friends here in Thailand and
 Danish is close enough.

Underligt att du förstår svenska och danska, men inte norska. Norska är ju mer 
likt svenska. :)


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OT: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chrille,

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:08:44 +0100GMT (30-11-2008, 9:08, where I
live), you wrote:

C Underligt att du förstår svenska och danska, men inte norska.
C Norska är ju mer likt svenska. :)

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Re: Re[4]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread tracer
Well, I asked for that but its true and even if its supposed to be more
or less similar I never had a Norwegian to try it!
As said the real trick is my memory, I assume its some kind of photographic
memory but it doesn't seem to work the same way...

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Re: OT: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Chrille
Hello Roelof,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 09:18:21, you wrote:

 Hallo Chrille,

 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:08:44 +0100GMT (30-11-2008, 9:08, where I
 live), you wrote:

C Underligt att du förstår svenska och danska, men inte norska.
C Norska är ju mer likt svenska. :)

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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
Hello Martin,

C I'm  just  wondering  if  there  is  a  printable manual available?
 PDF manual for TB:
 http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf
MS Wouldn't have harmed to mention what language that document is
MS in...would've saved the internet some megabytes of transferred data I
MS guess.
MS For the record: the above document is NOT english...

I  dont  see  that there was a request for the _English_ manual. There
was a request for a _printable manual_ for TB.

Anyway,  sorry  for  the  joke.  I just wanted to point out that there
is/are  printable manual(s) out there for TB, it would be time to make
an English one, too.

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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
t Sorry to ask, but what language is it in
t I can read quite a few languages but some are a headache!

Hungarian. I wrote those manuals for v1, v2, v3 and v4. 300+ pages,
so the users can download it, dont have to figure out everything by
themselves.

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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
t It seems that file is damaged according to my reader
  PDF manual for TB:
  http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf
TF It opened fine here - but don't bother downloading it unless you read
TF Hungarian! This is not a joke.

I am sorry, I wanted it to be a half joke, half serious note that it
IS possible to make a decent manual for TB.

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Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
Ok,  I joked, but also, I am willing to participate in a project where
we  put together an English PDF manual. But I cannot do it alone. This
is what I suggest:

- first we simply import the CHM into HelpManual (I tried it, works,
some formatting does not come over). Advantage of HM is that we can
create PDF very easily, etc. Ok, so at this point we have a PDF v0.

- some people go over it and decide which parts to change, what extra
parts to write

- those people decide who corrects/writes those parts

- everybody does his job by the deadline the people agree

-  the  editor/dictator  :)  goes  over  the  parts and make the final
corrections.  If  the issue is a serious one, he discusses it with the
author. Final word is always the editor's.

- we make a PDF then that is released. This is when people who are not
actively included in the project can make suggestions, that could be
included in PDF manual v2.

So,  who  are willing to put some time into it? I estimate like ca. 40
hrs/person  or  little  more.  Project  would  take  until  the end of
January,  so  it  can  be  spread  over two months, no reason to hurry
during December.

I  am  willing  to do the HM editing, suggesting a structure, make the
PDF  v0. I can supply the editor with HM. I wont be editor. However, I
strongly  suggest  to  have  ONE  editor.  Democracy  in  this kind of
projects never work.

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Re[3]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Chrille
Hello Vili,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 18:29:23, you wrote:

 I  dont  see  that there was a request for the _English_ manual. There
 was a request for a _printable manual_ for TB.

Hehe, sorry about that. I am searching for the English manual. Or perhaps a 
Swedish? :)


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Vili,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 7:55:02 PM, among other things, you wrote:

V So,  who  are willing to put some time into it? I estimate like ca. 40
V hrs/person  or  little  more.  Project  would  take  until  the end of
V January,  so  it  can  be  spread  over two months, no reason to hurry
V during December.
I  have the time and am willing to help.  I may not have used all the features 
of 
TB but I am a native English speaker and have had editing experience, though 
not professionally!

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Vili,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:55:02 AM, you wrote:

 Ok,  I joked, but also, I am willing to participate in a project where
 we  put together an English PDF manual. But I cannot do it alone. This
 is what I suggest:

 - first we simply import the CHM into HelpManual (I tried it, works,
 some formatting does not come over). Advantage of HM is that we can
 create PDF very easily, etc. Ok, so at this point we have a PDF v0.

 - some people go over it and decide which parts to change, what extra
 parts to write

That is simply an excellent suggestion (!) as Roger pointed out
following your note, when he volunteered to help with the English
editing. Like Roger, I have not explored all the fine features of TB,
but like Roger, I could help with the text editing, having written
tech manuals years ago (it was not my primary job, but I did it as an
engineer helping develop such manuals for machine operators).

There should be a good chief editor (not I!), and dividing up of 
tasks, reasonable deadlines, etc.

Thank you, Vili, for your hard work on the Hungarian manual and for 
making this suggestion.

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vili,

On 30-11-2008 18:55, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ok, I joked, but also, I am willing to participate in a project where
 we put together an English PDF manual.

Shouldn't Ritlabs produce manuals for their software?

I find it odd that users need to produce manuals for a commercial
software product.

Freeware/open source, yes; payware, no.

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread tracer
http://www.processtext.com/news.html
A set of programs you (likely) never saw before.
I downloaded most of them in the past but after my motorbike accident in
January no idea where they ended up.
But if you want to do any text converting, they are ideal.
Sorry, I go bed to sleep!


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Rick
 http://www.processtext.com/news.html
 A set of programs you (likely) never saw before.
 I downloaded most of them in the past but after my motorbike accident in
 January no idea where they ended up.
 But if you want to do any text converting, they are ideal.
 Sorry, I go bed to sleep!

I agree - his product are great and priced right. If you are using
Help  Manual though, you may not need them ...


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread tracer
There are so many programs in what they have it is unlikely
there isn't anything suitable. Note not all work as I found out when doing a
bulk Sony format to Lit conversionThey also have email conversion stuff
like the Bat!


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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Fellow list members,

I've been following this thread since the beginning and find it
unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki (similar to WIKI I suppose)
for TBUDP (The Bat! User Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE
website (http://www.pcwize.com/).

The following link will take you directly to the TBUDP page:

http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php

Since this project has already been started, it would seem that it
falls directly in line with what every one in this thread is asking
for. I've discovered that once you have registered, you are allowed to
create new, and edit existing, pages.

Would a printable manual really be necessary if one could always go to
this site for answers to TB how-to questions? And if a printable
manual is preferable to on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI
could be printed in some sort of hard-copy manual.

Just curious.

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Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Sunday 30 November 2008 at 8:49:08 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 I've been following this thread since the beginning and
 find it unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki
 (similar to WIKI I suppose) for TBUDP (The Bat! User
 Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE website

[...]

 http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php

 Since this project has already been started, it would
 seem that it falls directly in line with what every one
 in this thread is asking for.


I thought exactly the same thing.


 Would a printable manual really be necessary if one
 could always go to this site for answers to TB how-to
 questions?

Some people prefer a printable/printed manual.

And is there such a thing as a site you can /always/ go to?


 And if a printable manual is preferable to
 on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI could be
 printed in some sort of hard-copy manual.


It's certainly a good place to start. And the GNU Free Documentation
License would allow inclusion of the material with or without
modification.


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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili,

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:32:40 +0100 GMT (01/12/2008, 00:32 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

t It seems that file is damaged according to my reader
  PDF manual for TB:
  http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf
TF It opened fine here - but don't bother downloading it unless you read
TF Hungarian! This is not a joke.

V I am sorry, I wanted it to be a half joke, half serious note that it
V IS possible to make a decent manual for TB.

You have made a good point. Of course it is possible to make a good
manual for TB!. It is only a question of people donating their time
(which you apparently have done for your Hungarian customers) or
Ritlabs paying someone for this essential document.

Other payware producers will deliver each new version with an updated
manual. I think that is the standard.

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Re[2]: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
 Ok, I joked, but also, I am willing to participate in a project where
 we put together an English PDF manual.
PF Shouldn't Ritlabs produce manuals for their software?
PF I find it odd that users need to produce manuals for a commercial
PF software product.
PF Freeware/open source, yes; payware, no.

Yes, I know, but...

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Re[2]: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
 http://www.processtext.com/news.html
 A set of programs you (likely) never saw before.
 I downloaded most of them in the past but after my motorbike accident in
 January no idea where they ended up.
 But if you want to do any text converting, they are ideal.
 Sorry, I go bed to sleep!
R I agree - his product are great and priced right. If you are using
R Help  Manual though, you may not need them ...

I already made the PDF v0, it needs some editing, and then the members
of the team can take a look at it.

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Re[2]: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing

2008-11-30 Thread Vili
JSL I've been following this thread since the beginning and find it
JSL unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki (similar to WIKI I suppose)
JSL for TBUDP (The Bat! User Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE
JSL website (http://www.pcwize.com/).
JSL The following link will take you directly to the TBUDP page:
JSL http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php
JSL Since this project has already been started, it would seem that it
JSL falls directly in line with what every one in this thread is asking
JSL for. I've discovered that once you have registered, you are allowed to
JSL create new, and edit existing, pages.
JSL Would a printable manual really be necessary if one could always go to
JSL this site for answers to TB how-to questions? And if a printable
JSL manual is preferable to on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI
JSL could be printed in some sort of hard-copy manual.

Yes, printable manual is always better. Even if you dont print it, you
dont have to go online to find out something.

I knew that there are sites/info about TB out there. What I suggest is
to gather all useful info into one PDF. So, the goal is NOT to make
something completely new, but a useful, comprehensive PDF.

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Vili
C I'm  just  wondering  if  there  is  a  printable manual available?
C Something  like  the  helpfile  included  in  the Bat! program? The
C helpfile  would be perfect to have on paper, but I can't figure out
C how to print it properly.

PDF manual for TB:
http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Vili,

Saturday, November 29, 2008, 2:12:57 PM, you wrote:

V PDF manual for TB:
V http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf

Sorry  to  say,  but  I've  never  seen  such  a  bad  case  of  Dutch
translation!  :-)

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Mark,

Saturday, November 29, 2008, 3:33:07 PM, among other things, you wrote:


MP Hello Vili,

MP Saturday, November 29, 2008, 2:12:57 PM, you wrote:

V PDF manual for TB:
V http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf

MP Sorry  to  say,  but  I've  never  seen  such  a  bad  case  of  Dutch
MP translation!  :-)


Not very good English either! :))

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Vili,

C I'm  just  wondering  if  there  is  a  printable manual available?

 PDF manual for TB:
 http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf

Wouldn't have harmed to mention what language that document is
in...would've saved the internet some megabytes of transferred data I
guess.

For the record: the above document is NOT english...


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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread tracer
Sorry to ask, but what language is it in
I can read quite a few languages but some are a headache!
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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Saturday, November 29, 2008, tracer wrote:

 Sorry to ask, but what language is it in
 I can read quite a few languages but some are a headache!

Hungarian...

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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Gunivortus Goos

 PDF manual for TB:
 http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf

 For the record: the above document is NOT english...

Of course it isn't, every child could have seen it's hunglish. :-)

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread tracer
oops, I would likely get stuck!who is the expert in it so we might get an
English translation??


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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, at 23:56:56 [GMT +0700] (which was 17:56 where I
live) Tracer wrote:

 oops, I would likely get stuck!who is the expert in it so we might get an
 English translation??

That's the question ;-)

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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Roger,

Saturday, November 29, 2008, 8:41:23 AM, you wrote:

MP Sorry  to  say,  but  I've  never  seen  such  a  bad  case  of  Dutch
MP translation!  :-)  

 Not very good English either! :))

Actually, it is Old Gaelic!!

:)

Seriously, thought - is there an English version?

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin,

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:47:45 +0100 GMT (29/11/2008, 23:47 +0700 GMT),
Martin Schuster wrote:

C I'm  just  wondering  if  there  is  a  printable manual available?

 PDF manual for TB:
 http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf

MS Wouldn't have harmed to mention what language that document is
MS in...would've saved the internet some megabytes of transferred data I
MS guess.

Indeedy. But at least we have a base now to translate into English.

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread tracer
Thomas,
It seems that file is damaged according to my reader


  PDF manual for TB:
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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello tracer,

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:40:44 +0700 GMT (30/11/2008, 09:40 +0700 GMT),
tracer wrote:


t Thomas,
t It seems that file is damaged according to my reader


  PDF manual for TB:
  http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf

It opened fine here - but don't bother downloading it unless you read
Hungarian! This is not a joke.

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread tracer


 It opened fine here - but don't bother downloading it unless you read
 Hungarian! This is not a joke.


I know but one never knows.
I used to be able to read quite a few languages as long as they used ABC.
That was about the only restriction and obviously a dictionary. I used to
read them and remember them...
If the text has to do with computers it normally isn't a big problem.
Finnish I can assure you is an exception!


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Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread Chrille
Hello tracer,

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 04:10:04, you wrote:


 If the text has to do with computers it normally isn't a big problem.
 Finnish I can assure you is an exception!

Well, how about Swedish? :)

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Re: Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-29 Thread tracer
You may not believe it but I can read and understand Swedish and Danish. No
Norwegian though and no Finnish! I just never had the need to try and
read/understand it.I have a few Swedish friends here in Thailand and
Danish is close enough.
Essentially I can read and remember dictionaries and with some practice it
becomes real time translation Since my last accident with motorbike its
not as good as it was!
Add having traveled for my work I can say that if it uses ABC I likely would
have been able to read or understand most of it... Arabic
obviously wasn't one of them but there are many words which come from Arabic
and Russian letters resemble Greek ones enough. No Thai obviously (which is
a problem as I live there)... or certain odd languages which don't resemble
anything else!
I must admit that obviously I understand more of Thai then they realize and
it becomes funny as various languages here in the neighborhood seem to be
closely related...

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Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-28 Thread Chrille
Hello!

I'm just wondering if there is a printable manual available? Something like the 
helpfile included in the Bat! program? The helpfile would be perfect to have on 
paper, but I can't figure out how to print it properly.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?

2008-11-28 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Friday 28 November 2008 at 8:37:38 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chrille wrote:


 I'm just wondering if there is a printable manual
 available? Something like the helpfile included in the
 Bat! program? The helpfile would be perfect to have on
 paper, but I can't figure out how to print it properly.

 Any suggestions?



 The_bat.chm lives in your TB! program directory.



I googled for print .chm files (without quotes) and the 16th match
http://techie-buzz.com/annoyances/how-to-print-an-entire-chm-file.html
suggests

* First, open the CHM file. It should open up in the default CHM
Viewer

* Click on the topic you want to print

* Click the ‘Print’ button in the CHM Viewer Toolbar

* You’ll be asked if you want the particular selection alone, or
also all the topics under the heading. Make the second selection
and click ‘OK’

* In the print Window that appears, DO NOT click anything.

* Instead, navigate to %Temp%

* Now, you should see a .HTM file with a name like ~hh3256.htm

* Open the file - which should contain the parts of the CHM file
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Re: Printing the message list

2008-01-17 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Ian,
Thursday, January 17, 2008, 6:18:57 PM, you wrote:

 Is there any way I can just print what appears in the message list?

You  should be able to create a filter that does this. Filter for this
particular  recipient  and  then use Export Message as the action. Use
plain  text  as the Export Format and then use the Template button to
select  what  you  would like to see. Choose append to have it build a
continuous list. Then run the filter on the appropriate folder and you
should  end  up  with a text file that contains a running list of your
messages to this person.

Just don't select the body of the message for the template.

Let me know if it works. :-)

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Re: Printing the message list

2008-01-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ian,

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:18:57 +1100GMT (18-1-2008, 1:18 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

IAW Is there any way I can just print what appears in the message list?

Create a manual filter that exports all messages to a text file and
use a template like this:
%FromName %Subject   %Date
The export file must not be overwritten, but appended.
With a proper condition you can set it to pick everything you want to
show. The resulting text file can be printed.

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Re: printing email list in individual folders

2007-07-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo usman,

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:08:54 -0700GMT (23-7-2007, 7:08 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

UX one problem that I am now having is that the filter rule seems to run only
UX on read messages in the folder. is there any way i can have it apply
UX for the unread messages as well without having to mark all the
UX emails in the folder as read?

Set the filter to be triggered by a hotkey (on the options tab)
Don't set it to match the condition
Set it to run by the hotkey only

Now select all messages in a folder and press your selected hotkey.

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printing email list in individual folders

2007-07-22 Thread usman x
Hi everyone,
I am wondering how I can print the list of emails in an individual
folder. there are about 350 emails in this folder and the viewmode is
set to show from subject and received columns.  If I select all
the emails and then select print, it prints the contents of all the
emails where as I would just like the titles printed.

thanks,
u

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Re: printing email list in individual folders

2007-07-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo usman,

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:11:23 -0700GMT (23-7-2007, 0:11 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

UX I am wondering how I can print the list of emails in an individual
UX folder. there are about 350 emails in this folder and the viewmode is
UX set to show from subject and received columns.  If I select all
UX the emails and then select print, it prints the contents of all the
UX emails where as I would just like the titles printed.

It can't be done as is, but there is a way.
Create a manual filter.
Set as action that it exports to .txt and append to the existing file
Set as template:
%From  %Subject %Date
On a single line, you can adjust the used macros for the items you
want to print.
Select the folder you want to print, run the filter against it and
print the resulting text file with notepad (or whatever).

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Re: printing email list in individual folders

2007-07-22 Thread usman x
Hi Roelof,

thanks so very much for your help. i was able to create the file like
you advised.

one problem that I am now having is that the filter rule seems to run only
on read messages in the folder. is there any way i can have it apply
for the unread messages as well without having to mark all the
emails in the folder as read?

Also, in the sorting office, the options for creating filters are
under incoming mail, outgoing mail, read mail, and replied
mail. is there any way to create one filter rule that applies to both
read and unread mail?
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Re: Help with Printing

2006-03-04 Thread Chris
Hi Robin,


 On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 at 15:14:30 +1100, Chris wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 at 12:55:15 +1100, Chris wrote:
 When you say some parts are unwrapped, do you mean that they don't wrap on
 the screen, or they are like the above paragraph in your email and have no
 hard wrapping?

 They don't wrap on the screen (or when I printed it, though it makes
 sense I suppose that if it didn't wrap on screen, it wouldn't wrap on
 paper).

 Well, it depends what you mean by wrap. I have my emails set to hard wrap at
 76 characters, so I have line breaks that force that. However, your emails
 don't have hard wraps, they wrap at the edge of the screen. I presume this
 is because you use the windows editor, which doesn't automatically insert
 line breaks when it wraps a line.

 However, not wrapping at all could mean that the line just goes on off the
 edge of the page and you get a horizontal scroll bar at the bottom of the
 screen. You have to use that horizontal scroll bar to see the end of the
 line.

Yes, you are correct - I use the Windows editor. I did have a horizontal scroll 
bar with the Logitech e-mail.

 Oddly enough, most of the e-mail was wrapped fine - it was just
 one particular part of the e-mail that wasn't wrapping.

 Certainly I had no problem printing out your email, and my print template
 only has the %text macro in it.

 My e-mail should have been fine - I have The Bat! set to wrap at about
 70 characters or so.

 Although it wraps at the edge of the page, I think because you are using the
 Windows editor.

Yep, using the Windows editor.

 The e-mail I was trying to print was from Logitech tech support (I'm
 having problems with my mouse) - I think it may have had some HTML in it
 if that is important.

 I think it probably is relevant.

Does that mean that The Bat! has some sort of problem printing HTML e-mails? 
That's a bit of a bummer - though myself I only use plain text in my e-mails, 
you can't stop someone (like Logitech), using HTML in their e-mails...

 What I ended up doing (I needed it printed urgently), was to copy the
 entire text to Notepad, and manually delete spaces, add spaces and add
 paragraph's with the Enter key, until the entire text wrapped, then I
 printed it from Notepad. Messy, and I want to find out how to properly
 print it from The Bat!

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Re: Help with Printing

2006-03-01 Thread Chris
Hi Peter,

 Hello Chris,

 on Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:55:15 +1100 (2006-02-26 02:55:15 in .nl) in the
 message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 you [] wrote (at least in part):

C The margins are set in Print Setup to 3cm (both left and right),

 Ok.

C and 25cm (top and bottom-I'm using A4 paper).

 I hope not when using A4, as it is 29,something cm in height (note
 here the ',' is used as a decimal separator).

Yeah, 210x297 or something like that - but it was fitting on the page 
lengthwise ok, just not widthwise. Actually, it was The Bat! itself that set 
the margins - and the margin it set for width was some insane number like 20cm. 
I was the one that changed it to 3...


C I've tried adding %WRAPPED to the print template in Print Setup (on
C the very first line). Nothing I can do will make this message print
C correctly. Help!

 There have been problems in beta's preceding this release. Apparently,
 the issue hasn't been completely resolved.

I'm using v3.71 - so if %WRAPPED was working properly, that would have fixed my 
problem?

 PS: you should check your sig delimiter, it's not as it should be
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Re: Help with Printing

2006-03-01 Thread Chris
Hi Robin,


 On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 at 12:55:15 +1100, Chris wrote:
 I need some help badly. I'm simply trying to print a e-mail message and
 I can't get it to work. The problem is wrapping. IN the e-mail, there are
 some parts that are wrapped, and some that aren't. When I go and print it,
 the unwrapped parts just continue off the edge of the page. I've tried a
 number of things to get it to wrap. The margins are set in Print Setup to
 3cm (both left and right), and 25cm (top and bottom-I'm using A4 paper).
 I've tried adding %WRAPPED to the print template in Print Setup (on the
 very first line). Nothing I can do will make this message print correctly.
 Help!

 When you say some parts are unwrapped, do you mean that they don't wrap on
 the screen, or they are like the above paragraph in your email and have no
 hard wrapping?

They don't wrap on the screen (or when I printed it, though it makes sense I 
suppose that if it didn't wrap on screen, it wouldn't wrap on paper). Oddly 
enough, most of the e-mail was wrapped fine - it was just one particular part 
of the e-mail that wasn't wrapping.

 Certainly I had no problem printing out your email, and my print template
 only has the %text macro in it.

My e-mail should have been fine - I have The Bat! set to wrap at about 70 
characters or so. The e-mail I was trying to print was from Logitech tech 
support (I'm having problems with my mouse) - I think it may have had some HTML 
in it if that is important. What I ended up doing (I needed it printed 
urgently), was to copy the entire text to Notepad, and manually delete spaces, 
add spaces and add paragraph's with the Enter key, until the entire text 
wrapped, then I printed it from Notepad. Messy, and I want to find out how to 
properly print it from The Bat!

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Re: Help with Printing

2006-03-01 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 at 15:14:30 +1100, Chris wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 at 12:55:15 +1100, Chris wrote:
 When you say some parts are unwrapped, do you mean that they don't wrap on
 the screen, or they are like the above paragraph in your email and have no
 hard wrapping?

 They don't wrap on the screen (or when I printed it, though it makes
 sense I suppose that if it didn't wrap on screen, it wouldn't wrap on
 paper).

Well, it depends what you mean by wrap. I have my emails set to hard wrap at
76 characters, so I have line breaks that force that. However, your emails
don't have hard wraps, they wrap at the edge of the screen. I presume this
is because you use the windows editor, which doesn't automatically insert
line breaks when it wraps a line.

However, not wrapping at all could mean that the line just goes on off the
edge of the page and you get a horizontal scroll bar at the bottom of the
screen. You have to use that horizontal scroll bar to see the end of the
line.

 Oddly enough, most of the e-mail was wrapped fine - it was just
 one particular part of the e-mail that wasn't wrapping.

 Certainly I had no problem printing out your email, and my print template
 only has the %text macro in it.

 My e-mail should have been fine - I have The Bat! set to wrap at about
 70 characters or so.

Although it wraps at the edge of the page, I think because you are using the
Windows editor.

 The e-mail I was trying to print was from Logitech tech support (I'm
 having problems with my mouse) - I think it may have had some HTML in it
 if that is important.

I think it probably is relevant.

 What I ended up doing (I needed it printed urgently), was to copy the
 entire text to Notepad, and manually delete spaces, add spaces and add
 paragraph's with the Enter key, until the entire text wrapped, then I
 printed it from Notepad. Messy, and I want to find out how to properly
 print it from The Bat!


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Re[2]: Printing html

2006-02-27 Thread rich gregory
JP The font becomes extremely large when printing a html message. A
JP single page became seven pages upon printing.

SC Not seeing the large print problem here.


I occasionally see emails print in a very, very tiny font size. I have
to exit TB! and restart to 'fix' it.  (Version 2.12) Is this something
others see? Better yet is there a known fix?

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Re: [thebat] Printing html

2006-02-26 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Lou Yovin  everyone else,

on 26-Feb-2006 at 03:07 you (Lou Yovin) wrote:

ASK Besides that... why are people using email if they print it out 
eventually?
ASK You could write snailmail letters right from the start. :-)

 Why, so they can print out their wife's mail. What else?

You mean you won't let her sit in front of the screen and touch anything of
that techie stuff? Wise decision... maybe... :-)

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Re: [thebat] Printing html

2006-02-26 Thread lou

Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

Hello Lou Yovin  everyone else,

on 26-Feb-2006 at 03:07 you (Lou Yovin) wrote:

ASK Besides that... why are people using email if they print it out 
eventually?
ASK You could write snailmail letters right from the start. :-)

  

Why, so they can print out their wife's mail. What else?



ASK You mean you won't let her sit in front of the screen and touch anything 
of that techie stuff? Wise decision... maybe...
  

After 45 years, I have been trained to do what I am told. :-)


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Re: [thebat] Printing html

2006-02-26 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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ASK Besides that... why are people using email if they print it out
ASK eventually? You could write snailmail letters right from the
ASK start. :-)

 Why, so they can print out their wife's mail. What else?

Of course there are many reason. For instance, to be read by those not
using computers. Then, some letters are written just twice in lifetime
(now and nevermore), and they often finish framed on the wall. Some of
them are printed in many copies and are distributed to friends,
neighbors, or even glued on poles, electric substations, walls in
downtown, restaurants, elevators, banks, cars, busses, birthing centers
(as a warning) and so on.

Encrypted ones are fine for using in a conceptual art as sti{n|c}ky
notes on refrigerators, WC doors, or as templates for tattoos. Etc.

Indeed there are many reasons why someone would print a message or two,
now and then, even being not trained by a thin voice of a big lady
breathing behind his neck.

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Re: [thebat] Printing html

2006-02-26 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 at 09:02:48 -0500, Lou wrote:
 Why, so they can print out their wife's mail. What else?
 

 ASK You mean you won't let her sit in front of the screen and touch
 anything of that techie stuff? Wise decision... maybe...
   
 After 45 years, I have been trained to do what I am told. :-)

It took you that long? I learned that after just a couple of years!

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Help with Printing

2006-02-25 Thread Chris
Hi everyone,

I need some help badly. I'm simply trying to print a e-mail message and I can't 
get it to work. The problem is wrapping. IN the e-mail, there are some parts 
that are wrapped, and some that aren't. When I go and print it, the unwrapped 
parts just continue off the edge of the page. I've tried a number of things to 
get it to wrap. The margins are set in Print Setup to 3cm (both left and 
right), and 25cm (top and bottom-I'm using A4 paper). I've tried adding 
%WRAPPED to the print template in Print Setup (on the very first line). Nothing 
I can do will make this message print correctly. Help!

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Re[2]: [thebat] Printing html

2006-02-25 Thread Lou Yovin

Friday, February 24, 2006, 12:16:16 PM, you wrote:

ASK Besides that... why are people using email if they print it out eventually?
ASK You could write snailmail letters right from the start. :-)

Why, so they can print out their wife's mail. What else?

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Re: Help with Printing

2006-02-25 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 at 12:55:15 +1100, Chris wrote:
 I need some help badly. I'm simply trying to print a e-mail message and
 I can't get it to work. The problem is wrapping. IN the e-mail, there are
 some parts that are wrapped, and some that aren't. When I go and print it,
 the unwrapped parts just continue off the edge of the page. I've tried a
 number of things to get it to wrap. The margins are set in Print Setup to
 3cm (both left and right), and 25cm (top and bottom-I'm using A4 paper).
 I've tried adding %WRAPPED to the print template in Print Setup (on the
 very first line). Nothing I can do will make this message print correctly.
 Help!

When you say some parts are unwrapped, do you mean that they don't wrap on
the screen, or they are like the above paragraph in your email and have no
hard wrapping?

Certainly I had no problem printing out your email, and my print template
only has the %text macro in it.

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Re: [thebat] Printing html

2006-02-24 Thread Lou Yovin

Thursday, February 23, 2006, 8:47:13 AM, you wrote:

JP I thought this was resolved earlier, but the problem seems to be back.
JP The font becomes extremely large when printing a html message. A
JP single page became seven pages upon printing.

JP This problem occurred before in this beta cycle and was accompanied by
JP poor displays of html messages.

JP Jon

JP Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Printing html has always been a problem AFAIAC, if the html page has any
photo's, thebat locks up for several minutes and then says out of memory. Has
done this for several versions. Only about 4 photo's in latest and the
largest one is 59K. System has 2G of memory. I have to forward the
messages to another address and get it with Thunderbird to print it. I
normally view only in plain text but my wife has a friend who thinks
red-green-blue text and pictures is the way to go. Oh, those LookOut users!
When she gets one like that and I switch to the HTML tab and tell it to print,
and if there are pictures imbedded, it goes castors up. My viewer setting is
Text and HTML.


Perhaps, like most of my bugs, it is an error between the headphones and
someone will straighten me out.

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Re: Printing html

2006-02-24 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, February 23, 2006, Jon Polish wrote:

 I thought this was resolved earlier, but the problem seems to be back.
 The font becomes extremely large when printing a html message. A
 single page became seven pages upon printing.

 This problem occurred before in this beta cycle and was accompanied by
 poor displays of html messages.

not confirmed here, tested 3.71.03 on WinXP SP1 EN with HP1100 printer

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Re: Printing html

2006-02-24 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, February 23, 2006, 7:47:13 AM, Jon Polish wrote:

 The font becomes extremely large when printing a html message

confirmed, but not for all text. looks like just for some headers or
whatever.


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Re: [thebat] Printing html

2006-02-24 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello You Lovin Lou Yovin  everyone else,

on 23-Feb-2006 at 16:42 you (Lou Yovin) wrote:

 Oh, those LookOut users!

Lookout is an excellent fulltext search addon for Outlook.

Besides that... why are people using email if they print it out eventually?
You could write snailmail letters right from the start. :-)

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Re: [thebat] Printing html

2006-02-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander,

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:16:16 +0100 GMT (25/02/2006, 00:16 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK Besides that... why are people using email if they print it out eventually?

I print out important mails in the office (such as quotations),
because I know too much about computers to trust them! ;-)

ASK You could write snailmail letters right from the start. :-)

Snailmail is too slow for today's business environment. Besides, I had
trouble keeping in touch my friends and family before email was
invented. From a very few times a year it's now almost daily.
Especially with my family. At one time, I wondered whether buying a
modem for my parents was really that great an idea... ;-)

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Printing html

2006-02-23 Thread Jon Polish
I thought this was resolved earlier, but the problem seems to be back.
The font becomes extremely large when printing a html message. A
single page became seven pages upon printing.

This problem occurred before in this beta cycle and was accompanied by
poor displays of html messages.

Jon

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Re: Printing html

2006-02-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Jon,
  A reminder of what Jon Polish typed on:
  Thursday, February 23, 2006 at 08:47:13 GMT -0500

JP I thought this was resolved earlier, but the problem seems to be back.
JP The font becomes extremely large when printing a html message. A
JP single page became seven pages upon printing.

JP This problem occurred before in this beta cycle and was accompanied by
JP poor displays of html messages.

Not seeing the large print problem here.

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Re: Printing html

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Jon,

Concerning 3.71.03,

Thursday, February 23, 2006, 2:47:13 PM, you wrote:

JP I thought this was resolved earlier, but the problem seems to be back.
JP The font becomes extremely large when printing a html message. A
JP single page became seven pages upon printing.

Alas, confirmed! (cc-d to Beta List)

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Re: How to create a list of messages for printing?

2004-10-07 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 6-Oct-04 6:40am -0400, Julia V. Antipina wrote:

 Need help with the following: lots of messages in INBOX, and I have to
 somehow create a list of them (fields FROM, TO, TOPIC, DATE) and then
 print it.  Printing out of messages themselves is NOT required.
 Printing screenshot of the Inbox? No, thanks. ;)
 Is there any plugins or standard features that can help me?

Writing a simple filter that writes to an external
file, as Dan suggested, is a good approach if you do
this often.

Otherwise, you can simply copy and paste to your
favorite editor.  Mark you messages (cntl-a for all)
and copy with cntl-ins.

The format of clipboard may surprise you, but most
important info is there:

   msgid
   to
   from
   folder
   subject
   date/time
   size
   uid?
   
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Re: How to create a list of messages for printing?

2004-10-07 Thread Kertesz Vilmos
JVA Need help with the following: lots of messages in INBOX, and I have to
JVA somehow create a list of them (fields FROM, TO, TOPIC, DATE) and then
JVA print it.  Printing out of messages themselves is NOT required.
JVA Printing screenshot of the Inbox? No, thanks. ;)
JVA Is there any plugins or standard features that can help me?

I wrote a software sometime, it is called BackupTheBat. Freeware.
See www.thebat.hu/index_e.html :

Features

automatically  exporting  selected  The Bat! account/folder structures
using  given  filename  templates in Unix mailbox format (one file per
folder)

automatically  exporting  selected  The Bat! account/folder structures
using  given  filename  templates in RFC-822 .msg format (one file per
mail). In this mode the given account/folder structure is recreated as
subdirectory system in the target directory.

enable  the  user  to  read  his/her mails with any text editor in the
absence of The Bat!

enable  to make backups with filenames referring of the content/source
of  the  mails  (i.e.  account,  folder,  sender,  subject,  date etc.
property of the exported mail.)


---

So, if I were you, I would export the mails with BackupTheBat (BTB) from
Inbox as MSG, using e.g. this BTB template:
%MD_%MSE_%MA_%MSU.msg
or whatever you want.

When it is complete, in the directory where the mails exported I would
do this:
list *.msg  1.txt
where 1.txt contains what you want.

--
An other possibility:
-make a new folder
-copy every mails from Inbox there
-make a new filter, set it first in the row for Inbox, DO NOT process
the mail with further filters, if the sender has @ in his email,
export the mail to X.txt file. Append. Template: create the template
that will be printed later.

-

Maybe this second possibility is easier.

Vili
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Re: How to create a list of messages for printing?

2004-10-07 Thread Dan Grunberg
Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:30:32 -0400 (9:30 AM EDT here) Dan Grunberg wrote:

 Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:40:19 +0400 (7:40 AM EDT here) Julia V. Antipina
 wrote:

 Hello! Need help with the following: lots of messages in INBOX, and
 I have to somehow create a list of them (fields FROM, TO, TOPIC,
 DATE) and then print it.  Printing out of messages themselves is
 NOT required. Printing screenshot of the Inbox? No, thanks. ;) Is
 there any plugins or standard features that can help me?

 Create an Inbox filter that looks for all incoming messages. Have
 the filter do nothing but add a line to an external text file with
 the fields you need.

 | Snip |

I like this template much more than I liked the template I originally
proposed.

%REM=BEGIN template%-
%-
%ODateShort  %-
%SUBJ
   From: %FROMNAME %FROMADDR
 To: %TONAME %TOADDR

%-
%REM=END template%-

I I tested the template on three messages and I got this:

10/7/2004  YES John Doe Re: MCCMS Meeting 10/08/04
   From: John Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dan Grunberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

10/7/2004  YES **Richard Roe**CORRECTION**Re: MCCMS Meeting 10/08/04
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED],com [EMAIL PROTECTED],com
 To: Dan Grunberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

10/7/2004  YES Lisa Zoe ** RE: MCCMS Meeting 10/08/04
   From: Zoe, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dan Grunberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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How to create a list of messages for printing?

2004-10-06 Thread Julia V. Antipina
Hello!
Need help with the following: lots of messages in INBOX, and I have to
somehow create a list of them (fields FROM, TO, TOPIC, DATE) and then
print it.  Printing out of messages themselves is NOT required.
Printing screenshot of the Inbox? No, thanks. ;)
Is there any plugins or standard features that can help me?

THANK YOU!
Julia.



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Re: How to create a list of messages for printing?

2004-10-06 Thread Dan Grunberg
Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:40:19 +0400 (7:40 AM EDT here) Julia V. Antipina wrote:

 Hello! Need help with the following: lots of messages in INBOX, and
 I have to somehow create a list of them (fields FROM, TO, TOPIC,
 DATE) and then print it.  Printing out of messages themselves is NOT
 required. Printing screenshot of the Inbox? No, thanks. ;) Is there
 any plugins or standard features that can help me?

Create an Inbox filter that looks for all incoming messages. Have the
filter do nothing but add a line to an external text file with the
fields you need.

The Bat! = Account = Sorting Office/Filter

  Incoming Mail  [New]

StringsLocation   Presence
===   
@  KludgesYes

  Actions tab: pull down about 2/3 of way

[x] Export message to file

[ insert path to file ]

  Click rightmost button to open the template for the export.

  Cut and paste all between and including %FROMNAME and fifth
  (last) %- into the template. (Experiment and adjust the
  spaces and/or the blank line before the last %- as
  necessary.) 

%FROMNAME %-
%FROMADDR %-
%TONAME   %-
%TOADDR   %-
%SUBJ%-
%ODATESHORT

%-

Good luck.


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Re[2]: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

2004-08-29 Thread Mike email (The Bat!)
Hi

Saturday, August 28, 2004, 7:06:13 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:


TF I have received the plain-text message and printed it out. To my
TF surprise, I confirm:

TF 1.) When printing the message as is, the details after the colons are
TF printed onto the next line, even though there seems to be no reason
TF for it.

TF 2.) When hitting reply and then printing it, it prints correctly.

TF I am not sure why this is happening. I went into the headers I found
TF in the original message:

TF X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404)
TF Content-Type: multipart/mixed;

TF While I don't see the reason for multipart/mixed, I think you have no influence
TF on it anyway. However, this might give someone else a clue for this
TF behaviour, because the reply (which prints fine) shows:

TF MIME-Version: 1.0
TF Content-Type: text/plain;

TF It looks like TB has a problem printing multipart/mixed, but I cannot
TF run a test series right now. Maybe this came up earlier?


  Just a thought. Is it possible to alter this behaviour using
  macros in a print template?

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Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

2004-08-28 Thread Vark
Hi all,

Having scanned thru the list messages in the archive, I couldn't find a solution to 
the following, so I hope someone here can help.

I've just moved a car hire firm over to using TB from OE, and that has gone fine, 
however they receive on a regular basis emails from another firm giving car hire 
details, in the following format:

Name  : x y
Category  : vvwx

Etc,etc for 2 pages worth of fields. These emails display in TB in the correct format 
- the problem comes with printing.

If you print the email from the main screen, or open the email and print it from 
there, the print format looks like this:

Name  :x
y
Category  :
vvwx

However, if you pretend to reply to the email, and print it from that screen, then 
the email prints exactly as displayed on screen - and most importantly, this is how it 
is meant to be printed.

(Note that, with the above, if you have more than one word after the colon on a line, 
it tends to print the first word on the same line and then the rest on a second line, 
whereas if there is only one word as the post-colon word, it tends to get put on the 
next line).

Having played with the various settings available to me, I've found no way to prevent 
this behaviour - your thoughts would be appreciated! (Oh, and it's printer independant 
- it happens on my Brother HL5150D, and their HP multi-function thing).

Richard Oakham
Networks Engineer



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Re: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

2004-08-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vark,

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:25:29 +0100 GMT (28/08/2004, 19:25 +0700 GMT),
Vark wrote:

V Name  : x y
V Category  : vvwx

V Etc,etc for 2 pages worth of fields. These emails display in TB
V in the correct format - the problem comes with printing.

V If you print the email from the main screen, or open the email
V and print it from there, the print format looks like this:

V Name  :x
V y
V Category  :
V vvwx

Just a guess: Have you checked the margins at Message / Print Setup /
General? It could be that the margins are set so that a new line is
induced too early.

V However, if you pretend to reply to the email, and print it
V from that screen, then the email prints exactly as displayed on
V screen

This seems to contradict my theory but suggests another question: Are
the incoming messages in plain text? If not, is the plain-text editor
used for replying?

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komplexer Algorithmen. (Warum einfach, wenn¡¦s auch kompliziert geht?)

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Re[2]: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

2004-08-28 Thread Vark
Hello Thomas,

Thanks for the reply.

TF Just a guess: Have you checked the margins at Message / Print Setup /
TF General? It could be that the margins are set so that a new line is
TF induced too early.

Tried changing the margins, and which editor was used to display the message. Appears 
to make no difference. Changing font size also makes no difference.

TF This seems to contradict my theory but suggests another question: Are
TF the incoming messages in plain text? If not, is the plain-text editor
TF used for replying?

As above - I *think* I've tried all possible editor combinations.

Further tests - if I forward the email then the fault remains, but if I send it to 
another email client (Pegasus or OE) then it prints correctly. Copy/paste to another 
text editor also prints correctly. It does appear to be something with TheBat at this 
stage of the tests.

I can forward part of the email to the list if that would help (data protection means 
I can't forward the whole thing).

Richard



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Re: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

2004-08-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vark,

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:00:25 +0100 GMT (29/08/2004, 00:00 +0700 GMT),
Vark wrote:

V I can forward part of the email to the list if that would help
V (data protection means I can't forward the whole thing).

If you forward it to the list or to me by PM, I will try and print it.

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a paper clip in seconds, unless it's the door to a burning building
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Re[2]: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

2004-08-28 Thread Vark
Hello Thomas,

Copy of message sent to you directly. Thanks for your assistance thus far.

Richard



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Re: Printing problem with TheBAT! 2.12

2004-08-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vark,

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:25:52 +0100 GMT (29/08/2004, 00:25 +0700 GMT),
Vark wrote:

V Copy of message sent to you directly. Thanks for your assistance thus far.

I have received the plain-text message and printed it out. To my
surprise, I confirm:

1.) When printing the message as is, the details after the colons are
printed onto the next line, even though there seems to be no reason
for it.

2.) When hitting reply and then printing it, it prints correctly.

I am not sure why this is happening. I went into the headers I found
in the original message:

X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404)
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;

While I don't see the reason for multipart/mixed, I think you have no influence
on it anyway. However, this might give someone else a clue for this
behaviour, because the reply (which prints fine) shows:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;

It looks like TB has a problem printing multipart/mixed, but I cannot
run a test series right now. Maybe this came up earlier?

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Thomas.

Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.

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Re: Printing Messages

2004-08-20 Thread Zonnet

ON Friday, August 20, 2004, 1:36:00 AM, you wrote:
M Where's that option? I can't seem to find it.

SC  Under Message - Print - Print Range - Selection

Hi Stuart,

Is that in the new beta version? I can not find Print Range in my 2.12 version.

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Re: Printing Messages

2004-08-20 Thread Rick Friedman
On Friday, August 20, 2004, 6:29:28 AM, Zonnet wrote:

Z ON Friday, August 20, 2004, 1:36:00 AM, you wrote:
M Where's that option? I can't seem to find it.

SC  Under Message - Print - Print Range - Selection

Z Hi Stuart,

Z Is that in the new beta version? I can not find Print Range in my 2.12 version.


Gerard,

Print Range is part of the standard Windows print dialog. In TB!, go
to Message - Print.

At that point the standard Windows dialog should pop up. In the lower
left corner is a box labeled, Print Range.

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Re[2]: Printing Messages

2004-08-20 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Zonnet,
Friday, August 20, 2004, 5:29:28 AM, you wrote:

M Where's that option? I can't seem to find it.

SC  Under Message - Print - Print Range - Selection

Z Hi Stuart,

Z Is that in the new beta version? I can not find Print Range in my 2.12 version.


As Rick said this is fairly standard on all Windows print dialog
boxes. It is quite handy when you only want to print part of what
shows up in a message, or any document for that matter.

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