Re: Alternate Threading Options?
Hi On Wednesday 20 March 2019 at 6:13:53 PM, in , Steven P Vallière wrote:- > I am hoping and praying that this is some other way for > TheBat to thread messages that is independent of and > more reliable than similarity of subject lines. The standard way of threading is by the References header. TB! has nine threading options, seven of which ignore the Subject header. > and I would want to get rid of the external tag and the > space before (or after) it. I'm not sure you can edit the Subject within TB! for an incoming or received message. [0] shows an example of two filters and a batch command to export the message, edit in a text editor, and import the message back to TB!. Note it is called "Editing received messages without changing the headers" so you might need to adapt it to be able to edit the Subject header. If you want to automatically clean the subject line when you reply to their messages, you could probably adapt the example at [1] for your needs. I have not tried any of these myself. The links below are to a Wayback Machine archived copy because the page because the original page is currently unavailable. [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20070705050832/http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php#edit_a_received_message [1] <https://web.archive.org/web/20070705050832/http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php#clean_subject> -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> No matter where you go, there you are. Using The Bat! v8.8.2.3 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 17134 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternate Threading Options?
Hello Steven, On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:22:13 -0400 GMT (21-Mar-19, 1:22 +0700 GMT), Steven P Vallière wrote: > Oops. I found that I somehow got the threaded view > setting turned off. For "somehow", you might want to check the main menu: View / Display Threads By > However, I would still like to strip the annoying > " " from incoming subject lines so that the > subjects in the threaded view don't become hundreds > of characters long. > Is that possible? Yes, with Regular Expressions. Unfortunately, I am not an expert. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 8.8.2 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alternate Threading Options?
Oops. I found that I somehow got the threaded view setting turned off. However, I would still like to strip the annoying " " from incoming subject lines so that the subjects in the threaded view don't become hundreds of characters long. Is that possible? -- Steven Vallière | tb 8.8.2 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- "If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen." -Larry Zana Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alternate Threading Options?
I am working with a customer that insists on prepending the string " " to the subject line of every message received from an address outside their own domain. This destroys message threading by subject so I am hoping and praying that this is some other way for TheBat to thread messages that is independent of and more reliable than similarity of subject lines. In the absence of an alternate threading option, is there a way to have TheBat remove the " " string that the customer's mail system prepended to the subject when I receive replies? Actually, it will probably be more like Subject: Re: Original Subject and I would want to get rid of the external tag and the space before (or after) it. Are either of these things possible? Thanks! -- Steven Vallière | tb 8.8.2 | mailto:the...@e-visions.com -- "If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen." -Larry Zana Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Friday, September 12, 2008, 11:19:39 AM, Privateofcourse ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This version doesn't seem to. The kludges/headers: X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AckT/hHhbq2zQW3MQrCb7evKSGep5Q==. Maybe you can set up a Rule/Filter to add the correct header field derived from the MS-specific header line. For one account I've added the macro %AddHeader(X-TB-Folder,%FolderName) to the default Reply template. There is a Rule/Filter option Set User Param which looks like it could do the setting, and there's the option Set Memo which can contain Macros. There is also the Run External Program option which may be will allow the running a process to add the header string. Unfortunately that can't be remedied from your side. Annoying though. Maybe TB! will be able to recognise Outlook threading headers one day. Even if Outlook/Exchange doesn't create the right threading info, are you aware that you can Drag'n'Drop one message (tree) onto another message and therefore can recreate the broken branch of the message tree? Also using the Shift or Ctrl key while dragging you can break apart a wrongly built tree. Using The Bat! v4.0.28.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Richard Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hi Simon, Friday, September 12, 2008, 3:51:15 PM, Privateofcourse ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: For discussion lists this is the best setting that I've found (+ save the view mode as 'expanded' so you're not forever clicking little +es) ... Are you aware that once a root message is highlighted you can type ctrl+ or ctrl- (using the number pad + is easier) and the whole of the thread from that point downward will expand/compress in one go. I only found this having used it in another application and wondered whether it would work in The Bat!. There's always a downside, but I haven't come across it yet...although I'm sure someone will enlighten me if there is. See other message about Drag'n'Drop messages to build/break tree structures of messages -- Richard Using The Bat! v4.0.28.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hello TBUDL, I have noticed that when replying to messages sent to me by people using Microsoft Office Outlook my replies aren't threaded. That is, the reply isn't 'attached' to the original replied to message and appears as a separate email in the message list. I sort the 'standard way' which is by references and received time. Has anyone had this experience or similar? I've only just noticed this behaviour lately. It is very annoying I might add. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #1104. Qualm Dry Wore Sis ¶ TB! 4.0.34 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hallo Simon, On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:38:08 +0100GMT (12-9-2008, 9:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P I have noticed that when replying to messages sent to me by people using P Microsoft Office Outlook my replies aren't threaded. That is, the reply P isn't 'attached' to the original replied to message and appears as a P separate email in the message list. That's because the replies sent to you don't contain a References or an In-Reply-To header, those headers store the threading information. All versions of MS Outlook that I've run into use them. When things are sent via Exchange that differs, Exchange does things its own way and can't be bothered by RFCs. Unfortunately that can't be remedied from your side. -- Groetjes, Roelof I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgplXSb2cywHI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hello Roelof, On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:14:42 +0200 your time, you said: P [...snip...] when replying to messages sent to me by people using P Microsoft Office Outlook my replies aren't threaded. [...snip...] That's because the replies sent to you don't contain a References or an In-Reply-To header, [...snip...] Yes, you're correct. I just checked and the emails and they don't contain those normal headers. However, they do contain Thread-Index:, which seems to be a Microsoft specific header that I've not noticed before. All versions of MS Outlook that I've run into use them. This version doesn't seem to. The kludges/headers: X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AckT/hHhbq2zQW3MQrCb7evKSGep5Q==. Unfortunately that can't be remedied from your side. Annoying though. Maybe TB! will be able to recognise Outlook threading headers one day. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #2283. Squaw Led I Mrs Roy ¶ TB! 4.0.34 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hallo Simon, On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:19:39 +0100GMT (12-9-2008, 12:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P Yes, you're correct. I just checked and the emails and they don't contain P those normal headers. However, they do contain Thread-Index:, which seems P to be a Microsoft specific header that I've not noticed before. All versions of MS Outlook that I've run into use them. P This version doesn't seem to. The kludges/headers: P X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 P X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 P Thread-Index: AckT/hHhbq2zQW3MQrCb7evKSGep5Q==. Might be a configuration issue, when my brother used Outlook 11, his messages contained In-Reply-To, References and Thread-Index. These days he's using MSO 12 and he's still using the same headers. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows 95: Making Windows work just like a Mac did 10 years ago! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpB4bP6SMwRW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hello Roelof, On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:18:47 +0200 your time, you said: Might be a configuration issue, when my brother used Outlook 11, his messages contained In-Reply-To, References and Thread-Index. These days he's using MSO 12 and he's still using the same headers. Some confusion here I think. I don't think I made myself clear enough, sorry: I did a search, and discovered that Microsoft have, in their infinite wisdom, removed the Message-ID header from Outlook (a while back it seems) supposedly due of 'security issues'. Of course that messes everything up. So, this is my take on how this breaks threading: 1. (i) A new email with a new 'subject' is sent from an Outlook client. (ii) Outlook does not add a message-ID: header to the email. 2. (i) In The Bat! I receive the email and reply to the Outlook message (ii) The Bat! does not include an In-Reply-To: header because their is no message-ID in the email being replied to, so no References either. 3. (i) The Outlook user then replies to MY reply (ii) Outlook DOES then add an In-Reply-To: header to their email reply 4. (i) I receive their reply. (ii) The Bat! then threads the last two emails because it can find an In-Reply-To: reference. 5. (i) I then reply again (ii) But this reply isn't threaded in TB! either because their is still no originator's message-ID in the Outlook reply, so The Bat! does not reference any of the the previous emails And so forth, and so forth... So, without Outlook providing and initial message-ID TB! won't thread the messages. I can of course thread by References and subject and received time and hope that the right messages are threaded together, but still... -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #1792. Arm Dress Wily Quo ¶ TB! 4.0.34 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hallo Simon, On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:51:43 +0100GMT (12-9-2008, 13:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P So, this is my take on how this breaks threading: P 1. (i) A new email with a new 'subject' is sent from an Outlook client. P(ii) Outlook does not add a message-ID: header to the email. That's still something that can be configured in Outlook P 2. (i) In The Bat! I receive the email and reply to the Outlook message P(ii) The Bat! does not include an In-Reply-To: header because their is no P message-ID in the email being replied to, so no References either. Ouch! Not only does Outlook 'forget' to insert the msg-id, but the intermediate servers also forget about that, according to the relevant RFCs that should be done. Anyway there's nothing you can do about that. Only thing I can suggest that you switch to thread on references and subject. P So, without Outlook providing and initial message-ID TB! won't thread the P messages. I can of course thread by References and subject and received time P and hope that the right messages are threaded together, but still... But you thought of that yourself. When the automatic threading goes awry, you can always override the threading manually -- Groetjes, Roelof The Innocent, the Eager, and the Doomed. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpswcSIyr4Xt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hi On Friday 12 September 2008 at 12:51:43 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Privateofcourse wrote: I can of course thread by References and subject and received time How? The Bat! only gives me the following 6 choices for threading:- None References (standard) Subject From To References + Subject -- Best regards, MFPA Keep them dry and don't feed them after midnight Using The Bat! v4.0.28.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hello MFPA, On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:05:03 +0100 your time, you said: I can of course thread by References and subject and received time How? The Bat! only gives me the following 6 choices for threading:- Okay, more accurately, to get around it I meant this: View Menu - | Sort by: - Received time | View Threads by: - References + Subject - Group by Date So I haven't got anything extra in my TB!version ;-) And I don't sort by Descending order JFYR, so the newest message thread always appears at the top of the 'daily message tree'. For discussion lists this is the best setting that I've found (+ save the view mode as 'expanded' so you're not forever clicking little +es) ...well it is best for me at least. As an aside, I think the number of view combinations must be unique to TB! because I haven't found anything as comprehensive in any other client...not that I'm looking. With the view set as described above replying to a message in a thread seven days old for example, will mean that the whole thread is made current and moved up to 'Today' messages. This saves a lot of faffing about. There's always a downside, but I haven't come across it yet...although I'm sure someone will enlighten me if there is. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #609. Masque Slid Worry ¶ TB! 4.0.34 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hi On Friday 12 September 2008 at 3:51:15 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Privateofcourse wrote: Okay, more accurately, to get around it I meant this: View Menu - | Sort by: - Received time | View Threads by: - References + Subject - Group by Date So I haven't got anything extra in my TB!version ;-) Thanks for clearing that up. I prefer to sort by creation time but it escapes me why I found that worked better for me than received time. I sort by References, not subject as I get unrelated messages with the same subject (such as hello or look at this). I'm not sure about the group by date function as it seems to alter the order slightly as well as putting in the date-related groupings. Anyway, I sometimes use it to help me look for something but not as a regular view. And I don't sort by Descending order JFYR, so the newest message thread always appears at the top of the 'daily message tree'. Same here. For discussion lists this is the best setting that I've found (+ save the view mode as 'expanded' so you're not forever clicking little +es) ...well it is best for me at least. As an aside, I think the number of view combinations must be unique to TB! because I haven't found anything as comprehensive in any other client...not that I'm looking. With the view set as described above replying to a message in a thread seven days old for example, will mean that the whole thread is made current and moved up to 'Today' messages. This saves a lot of faffing about. I don't get that as I don't group by date. I may give it a try. There's always a downside, but I haven't come across it yet...although I'm sure someone will enlighten me if there is. The only downside I experience is the order replies are displayed. For example, a thread started at noon with replies to the original post at 12:30, 13:00, etc. The 13:00 reply is displayed above the 12:30 display, so if you start reading from the top of the thread you read the later reply first (which can be confusing if they refer to the earlier reply in their own reply). -- Best regards, MFPA Editing is a rewording activity Using The Bat! v4.0.28.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hi On Friday 12 September 2008 at 2:53:22 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roelof Otten wrote: Ouch! Not only does Outlook 'forget' to insert the msg-id, but the intermediate servers also forget about that, according to the relevant RFCs that should be done. Anyway there's nothing you can do about that. Couldn't a third-party app (such as xray mail assistant) be used to insert a message-id? Or, maybe, a filter that exported the message and called a simple batch file that added a message-id header and imported the message back in? -- Best regards, MFPA You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do Using The Bat! v4.0.28.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading by references and received time and Outlook
Hallo MFPA, On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:10:04 +0100GMT (12-9-2008, 21:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Ouch! Not only does Outlook 'forget' to insert the msg-id, but the intermediate servers also forget about that, according to the relevant RFCs that should be done. Anyway there's nothing you can do about that. M Couldn't a third-party app (such as xray mail assistant) be used to M insert a message-id? Over here my own server is doing that, but as I´m running the mail server for my domain that´s nothing extra. I don´t know whether Xray could be configured to add a message-id. M Or, maybe, a filter that exported the message and called a simple M batch file that added a message-id header and imported the message M back in? Of course, that could be managed, but that would be quite a hassle -- Groetjes, Roelof Oops. - Most feared word in Nuclear Physics and Brain Surgery... http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpESuV3hlWPR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Threading by references+subject does not work with german AW: reply
Hello Tbudl, Hope this wasn't covered somewhere before, I only found a very old message from 2001 about this: Did anybody find a solution to thread correctly the answers from Outlook users replying with the german version of RE: namely AW:? references+subject does not match in this case. Thanks! -- Martin TB! 3.96.9 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation
Hello Kelvin, Thursday, December 14, 2006, 9:25:25 AM, you wrote: Is there a way to retain the ease and functionality of the Sort by Reference view but yet still retain the Gmail-way? Gmail-way is the manner in which Gmail threads emails (as conversations) and use date and time of the last reply to sort the threads. The thread with the latest reply will rank as the top thread, irregardless of the creation date of the thread starter email. Have you tried new thread sorting (might be not so new anymore in v3) in the properties of your viemode? -- Best regards, Andre The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP Home SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation
Hello Andre, Thanks Andre! It works exactly like how I want it to. With the growing popularity of Gmail, maybe this new thread sorting should be the default way of threading. -- Best regards, Kelvin Quee [EMAIL PROTECTED] +65 91773635 Sunday, December 17, 2006, 7:42:18 AM, you wrote: Hello Kelvin, Thursday, December 14, 2006, 9:25:25 AM, you wrote: Is there a way to retain the ease and functionality of the Sort by Reference view but yet still retain the Gmail-way? Gmail-way is the manner in which Gmail threads emails (as conversations) and use date and time of the last reply to sort the threads. The thread with the latest reply will rank as the top thread, irregardless of the creation date of the thread starter email. Have you tried new thread sorting (might be not so new anymore in v3) in the properties of your viemode? Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation)
Hallo Kelvin, On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:39:07 +0800GMT (17-12-2006, 3:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: KQ Best regards, KQ Kelvin Quee KQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] KQ +65 91773635 KQ Sunday, December 17, 2006, 7:42:18 AM, you wrote: Hello Kelvin, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Kelvin. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Oops : A technical term widely used by sysops and moderators pgp7MsJqF9e5Y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation
Hello Dan, It works! But the presented view is kind of hard to get used to. The relevant information in the rest of the columns disappeared. Is there a way to retain the ease and functionality of the Sort by Reference view but yet still retain the Gmail-way? Gmail-way is the manner in which Gmail threads emails (as conversations) and use date and time of the last reply to sort the threads. The thread with the latest reply will rank as the top thread, irregardless of the creation date of the thread starter email. Thanks! -- Best regards, Kelvin Quee [EMAIL PROTECTED] +65 91773635 Thursday, December 14, 2006, 3:52:43 PM, you wrote: Hello Kelvin, Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 8:20:58 PM, you wrote: snip I notice that when new replies come into a thread, The Bat doesn't automatically push the entire thread to the top. This is so even when I sort messages according to Received time. snip You can change your default View Mode for all folders or create a custom view mode for selected folders with the properties of Thread By = Subject Sort By = Received This should suffice I think :) Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation
Hello, I notice that when new replies come into a thread, The Bat doesn't automatically push the entire thread to the top. This is so even when I sort messages according to Received time. This behaviour is typical if you use the gmail webinterface. It is very useful because not only you can see the threading, your attention is also brought to threads where *new* replies have been made to it as the message is pushed up to the top. When I use the default TB behaviour, I keep missing new replies to old threads - so much so that I now have a virtual folder that picks out messages that are less than a day old and displays them in the unthreaded form. So what counterintuitive, I would say. Does anyone have a way out of this? Thanks. -- Best regards, Kelvin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation
Hello Kelvin, Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 8:20:58 PM, you wrote: snip I notice that when new replies come into a thread, The Bat doesn't automatically push the entire thread to the top. This is so even when I sort messages according to Received time. snip You can change your default View Mode for all folders or create a custom view mode for selected folders with the properties of Thread By = Subject Sort By = Received This should suffice I think :) -- Best regards, Danmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgppEDCDa4lu4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re-threading loosing mail from view
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:59:44 -0600, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hold down shift while dragging. Thought I'd tried all key-combo's yet... once more then... thx! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
re-threading loosing mail from view
Hi 'Batters! Today I've been trying the re-threading feature first-time, and getting into troubles right away... :-\ Some contact's replies were not threaded, so I dragged them to the most recent post - which worked quite well, to my delight. Unfortunately, at some point I dragged the tree of some 15 messages to another thread, which I was unable to undo. (*Is* there a way to unthread only certain messages?) After some moving around, including exporting, deleting the misthreaded msgs and re-importing them, I got all back... but only in view Thread by Reference! My usual view is by Subject, and those msgs that were misthreaded seem to be non-existent in threading by Subject?! On top of that, views of different accounts and folders are now effected in the width of the first Subject column: the width is *unequal*, but the change in one Subject width is copied into the same column for another account - and these columns used to be of *unequal* width... without TB asking to save the mods :-\ Anyone tips, comments, links to similar issues, or a solution? Please! Very much appreciated... BTW: I'm on XP Pro SP2, TB v3.65.03 -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re-threading loosing mail from view
Cory @ 3/07/2006 11:35:32 AM re-threading loosing mail from view mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (*Is* there a way to unthread only certain messages?) Hold down shift while dragging. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. pgpU4tV3ncTWh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hi On Monday 7 November 2005 at 2:55:21 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: If you create a wishlist entry, I'll support it. Marck created https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2663 in March 2004 but the status is still new. -- Best regards, MFPA Confusion is always the most honest response Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message ID creation (was: Constantly Re-Threading)
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:10:30 + GMT (07/11/2005, 19:10 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: If you create a wishlist entry, I'll support it. M Marck created https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2663 M in March 2004 but the status is still new. I added a supporting bugnote. -- Cheers, Thomas. And now excuse me while I interrupt myself... http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hi On Sunday 6 November 2005 at 2:12:30 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: Wasn't there / shouldn't there be an option in the account properties don't create message ID, or used the following domain for mid creation: ? I've not seen it in TB! but I believe there should be one, as in 40tude Dialog. -- Best regards, MFPA The second mouse gets the cheese Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 02:40:24 + GMT (07/11/2005, 09:40 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Wasn't there / shouldn't there be an option in the account properties don't create message ID, or used the following domain for mid creation: ? M I've not seen it in TB! but I believe there should be one, as in M 40tude Dialog. If you create a wishlist entry, I'll support it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Doesn't 'expecting the unexpected' make the unexpected expected? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hi On Friday 4 November 2005 at 4:57:40 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: the message-id contains the localhost netbios name Is that always the case, or just the way MS had set it up for previous versions of Outlook? -- Best regards, MFPA Editing is a rewording activity Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hello MFPA everyone else, on 05-Nov-2005 at 12:45 you (MFPA) wrote: the message-id contains the localhost netbios name Is that always the case, or just the way MS had set it up for previous versions of Outlook? What the message id looks like in the part after the @ depends largely on the implementation of the email program. TB uses the domain name of the mail address, Opera's M2 uses the local machine name, I don't know which way Outlook created the message id. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Der Himmel (5:34) by Pia Lund from the album 'La Folie Anglique' Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hi On Saturday 5 November 2005 at 12:02:36 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Hello MFPA everyone else, on 05-Nov-2005 at 12:45 you (MFPA) wrote: TB uses the domain name of the mail address, Opera's M2 uses the local machine name, I don't know which way Outlook created the message id. Here, Outlook Express uses the computer name, so I guess Outlook would, too. In 40tude Dialog, you either specify it yourself in account settings or else it uses 40tude.net (but there is also an option to let the server generate the message-id) -- Best regards, MFPA Don't cry because it is over - smile because it happened Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hi On Saturday 5 November 2005 at 12:02:36 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: TB uses the domain name of the mail address Specifically, the Reply-to address set in Account properties, so you can what you wish and then use the %replyto= macro in your templates;-) -- Best regards, MFPA Ballerinas are always on their toes. We need taller ballerinas! Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hello MFPA, On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:54:20 + GMT (05/11/2005, 23:54 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: TB uses the domain name of the mail address M Specifically, the Reply-to address set in Account properties, so M you can what you wish and then use the %replyto= macro in your M templates;-) That's a work-around. Wasn't there / shouldn't there be an option in the account properties don't create message ID, or used the following domain for mid creation: ? -- Cheers, Thomas. When you smell an odorless gas, it is probably carbon monoxide. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Constantly Re-Threading
Hello The Bat! UserList, Oh, I started a thread recently called Re-Threading where I learnt that if I set Thread ny References in View Mode/Thread by I could drag and drop and Re-Thread faulty threads. And get the Good look on mailing-lists. However, I'm on lots of mailing list trying to follow, read and answer on threads. But most of those lists are occupied by Outlook people that do not follow references and starts a new thread by replying on a old message or answers by creating a new message and using the old subject. I soon found out that following the conversations I had to do lots of detective work to find out what message was connected to what thread. And rebuild most of the threads so that they are connected the way they should to be readable. Before I used Sort by Subject, but then I get the new look and I have to expand each thread to see dates and other info. Well, I cannot be the only one? How do you manage to read mailinglists other than the The Bat ones? -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.62.05 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hallo Fredrik, On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:15:38 +0100GMT (4-11-2005, 9:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: FB Well, I cannot be the only one? How do you manage to read FB mailinglists other than the The Bat ones? I display threads on reference+subject. The lists I'm on hardly create a 'new thread' by replying to an old message, so that doesn't bother me and I don't re-thread at all. -- Groetjes, Roelof I'm never difficult...Impossible maybe, difficult, never. The Bat! 3.62.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpdKo0zGcSuP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Recently, Roelof Otten squawked: I display threads on reference+subject. OK ... I would like to try this one too but couldn't find a selection to actually *use* ref+sub as a filter Some of the Lists I am on, the people change the bloody subject lines but are actually replying to the correct thread ... it's a nightmare for sure. And AOL, for goshsakes, their reply format never makes the character, so what I ALWAYS see if the original text as if written by the new reply-person. Anyway, this is subject for new thread I suppose sigh -- Bye Now, Robert D. _ The Bat! Version: 3.62.11 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Robert D. @ 11/04/2005 8:56:12 AM Constantly Re-Threading mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK ... I would like to try this one too but couldn't find a selection to actually *use* ref+sub as a filter View/View Threads By/Ref. + Subj. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. As a reminder, there are three types of people: those who can count and those who can't. pgpfTbwlNS9bN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hi Fredrik, Well, I cannot be the only one? How do you manage to read mailinglists other than the The Bat ones? gmail and/or mutt. And I'm not kidding. They work. Regards, Roman -- Chicago got started by a bunch of New Yorkers who said, Gee, I'm enjoying the crime and poverty, but it just isn't cold enough. -- Richard Jeni Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Hello Robert D. everyone else, on 04-Nov-2005 at 15:56 you (Robert D.) wrote: Some of the Lists I am on, the people change the bloody subject lines but are actually replying to the correct thread ... it's a nightmare for sure. And AOL, for goshsakes, their reply format never makes the character, so what I ALWAYS see if the original text as if written by the new reply-person. Anyway, this is subject for new thread I suppose sigh Welcome to the sad sad reality of email standards... as long as the rule-set called RFC doesn't even explicitely make a message-id mandatory (the wording there is only should, not must), you can forget about threading by Reference on lists where multiple clients are used. Outlook2003 doesn't even CREATE a message-id, because, according to MS, users requested to leave it away because it is a privacy-issue: the message-id contains the localhost netbios name - the only thing they forgot are the received header lines that contain the same name as well. As long as there aren't really rigid rules for the contents of an email message, and as long as servers aren't rejecting messages that don't follow these rules, things won't change. OTOH there are clients that have a really really fine threading mechanism, using references, subject and date, like MUTT, and they beat TB easily. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Rudin's Law: In crises that force people to choose among alternative courses of action, most people will choose the worst one possible. Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Constantly Re-Threading
Recently, Chris squawked: View/View Threads By/Ref. + Subj. ohmygosh!! (said as fast as you can) I am so ST-pid. Yup, I see that now. I likely saw it before but scanned my brain over it old age/ Bad Wine? / -- Bye Now, Robert D. _ The Bat! Version: 3.62.11 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
threading title
I always loved the threading in previous versions of The Bat, but now in the latest version it has the name of the sender as a title, and you have to click the little cross to display just *one* message. I would love to get back to the old, prettier and easier way of threading without going back to a previous version. Is this possible and if so how? Thanks. -- lee walters // Friday, July 1, 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: threading title
lee walters @ 2005-Jul-1 3:37:39 PM threading title mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I always loved the threading in previous versions of The Bat, but now in the latest version it has the name of the sender as a title, and you have to click the little cross to display just *one* message. I would love to get back to the old, prettier and easier way of threading without going back to a previous version. Is this possible and if so how? Thanks. Try View/View threads by/References. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. All people have moments of insanity; some people more often than others. pgpk88ovQvHQX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: threading title
Friday, July 1, 2005, 9:44:12 PM, you wrote: lee walters @ 2005-Jul-1 3:37:39 PM threading title mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I always loved the threading in previous versions of The Bat, but now in the latest version it has the name of the sender as a title, and you have to click the little cross to display just *one* message. I would love to get back to the old, prettier and easier way of threading without going back to a previous version. Is this possible and if so how? Thanks. Try View/View threads by/References. Yes, tried that but wasn't quite sure about it. What does it mean by references? And I still couldn't get it how I had it in previous versions, i.e. the most recent e-mail and when you open up the little cross, the thread reveals past e-mail from that person. How can I configure it to do it like that? Cheers. -- lee walters // Friday, July 1, 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: threading title
lee walters @ 2005-Jul-1 6:00:12 PM threading title mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try View/View threads by/References. Yes, tried that but wasn't quite sure about it. What does it mean by references? In the message headers, there is information that links messages to on another. For example, since this message is a reply to your message, its In-Reply-To header is [EMAIL PROTECTED] That means that when you are threading by references, this message will appear as a reply to your message. Things are a bit more complicated, but that it the general idea. And I still couldn't get it how I had it in previous versions, i.e. the most recent e-mail and when you open up the little cross, the thread reveals past e-mail from that person. How can I configure it to do it like that? I'm still not entirely sure what you want, but try this: Thread by sender. Sort by Creation Time, descending. To sort by Creation Time, click on the Created column. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Good grief pgp719wlaV5fx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Please, need help threading correctly...
Howdy Tony, Monday, June 13, 2005, 10:02:27 PM, Tony wrotened: Tony --On Monday, June 13, 2005 21:41:59 +0100 MFPA Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who? Tony I was going to say that as well! Like Shergar only less legs. OR Lord Lucan... he only had two legs... -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.5.26 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM Who was the first to see a cow and think I wonder what will happen if i squeeze these dangly things and drink whatever comes out? Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello Dwight, A reminder of what Dwight A Corrin on TBUDL typed on: 13 June 2005 at 16:10:07 GMT -0500 two of the great mysteries of the 20th century on this continent Oh them. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.5.26 Windows XP Home SP2. Pentium IV, 2.4Ghz Home Built Desktop. :gentoo: www.gentoo.org pgpyCzNUL7T5o.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello Victor, On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:46:34 -0400 GMT (14/06/2005, 04:46 +0700 GMT), Victor B. Gonzalez wrote: VBG The option of threading by TO: Address seems so far a viable option. VBG I really appreciate everyone hooting along in agreement. I assume VBG this is an option many won't vote against. VBG How then do I put in a feature request and be able to track it? Go to the issue tracker at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/, and switch to the wish list. VBG Also, if worse did come to worse and the developers for some reason VBG or another refused to add such an option, is there a secret hack or VBG any third party utilities that will strip all recipient names from VBG messages in my database? You can always export the mails to unix format, edit them, and import them back into TB. Depending on the editor you use, this may be a lot of manual work, though. -- Cheers, Thomas. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 10. Your boss is always yelling, I wanna see your butt in here by 8:00. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello tbudl, The aim is simple. How do I thread by TO: Address and NOT TO: Name then Address? If this is impossible then: How do I re-filter all messages in my database so to strip the name from the recipient field and only leave behind the Address? I am trying to filter against the TO: address BUT the bat will only filter against the name and address BUT! the name takes precedence over the Address. How can I either reverse this behavior OR strip all recipient names in my database? I love it when the bat does what I need... I feel helpless when it doesn't... Any advice? Thanks! -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello Victor, On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:37:49 -0400 GMT (13/06/2005, 14:37 +0700 GMT), Victor B. Gonzalez wrote: VBG The aim is simple. How do I thread by TO: Address and NOT TO: Name VBG then Address? I htink I saw the same request a few days ago. Nobody answered, and I think it is not possible. VBG If this is impossible then: VBG How do I re-filter all messages in my database so to strip the name VBG from the recipient field and only leave behind the Address? No, you cannot strip anything from incoming messages. The majority of the TB community believes that it is unethical to alter incoming messages in any way. VBG I am trying to filter against the TO: address BUT the bat will only VBG filter against the name and address BUT! the name takes precedence VBG over the Address. How can I either reverse this behavior OR strip VBG all recipient names in my database? You can filter against the TO address in the Search functionality. Set the parameter to Recipient contains and insert the email address. Then create a Virtual Folder from that. I didn't try it, but that should work. -- Cheers, Thomas. No electrons were harmed in the creation, transmission or reading of this email. However, many were excited and some may well have enjoyed the experience. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
On Monday, June 13, 2005, 10:23:56 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: No, you cannot strip anything from incoming messages. The majority of the TB community believes that it is unethical to alter incoming messages in any way. I don't remember ever voting on this. In the state where I live, the majority of the current, popularly elected, state board of education believe that evolution did not happen, and therefore no children should be taught that it is true. I continue to believe that TB! should be designed to have practical features which may be desired by its users -- especially ones which are readily available on other otherwise less desirable clients -- rather than be ruled by outdated notions of ethics, whether rooted in the Bible or elsewhere. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.26 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello Dwight, On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:37:06 -0500 GMT (13/06/2005, 22:37 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: No, you cannot strip anything from incoming messages. The majority of the TB community believes that it is unethical to alter incoming messages in any way. DAC I don't remember ever voting on this. I did, and I was overruled. DAC In the state where I live, the majority of the current, popularly DAC elected, state board of education believe that evolution did not DAC happen, and therefore no children should be taught that it is true. I agree with this. Every time I go to the ocean, I can actually see that the Earth is a flat disk. DAC I continue to believe that TB! should be designed to have practical DAC features which may be desired by its users -- especially ones which DAC are readily available on other otherwise less desirable clients -- DAC rather than be ruled by outdated notions of ethics, whether rooted in DAC the Bible or elsewhere. I'm not sure the Bible said anything about incoming emails. But my crusade for being able to edit them from within TB has been unsuccessful until now. -- Cheers, Thomas. What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV! - Peter Palmreuther on TBUDL. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello Group On Monday, June 13, 2005, 5:04:58 PM, Thomas wrote: I agree with this. Every time I go to the ocean, I can actually see that the Earth is a flat disk. And there are never any reports of casualties falling off the edge because all governments conspire to keep such incidents secret... -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
On Monday, June 13, 2005, 1:12:06 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote: And there are never any reports of casualties falling off the edge because all governments conspire to keep such incidents secret... what did you think happened to Jimmy Hoffa and Amelia Earhart? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.26 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hi On Monday 13 June 2005 at 8:31:33 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dwight A Corrin wrote: what did you think happened to Jimmy Hoffa and Amelia Earhart? Who? -- Best regards, MFPA What is real? How do you define real? Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
--On Monday, June 13, 2005 21:41:59 +0100 MFPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who? I was going to say that as well! -- Tony. LM Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
On Monday, June 13, 2005, 3:41:59 PM, MFPA wrote: Jimmy Hoffa and Amelia Earhart http://www.biography.com/search/article.jsp?aid=9283280search= http://www.biography.com/search/article.jsp?aid=9341063search=hoffa two of the great mysteries of the 20th century on this continent -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.5.26 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello, The option of threading by TO: Address seems so far a viable option. I really appreciate everyone hooting along in agreement. I assume this is an option many won't vote against. How then do I put in a feature request and be able to track it? Also, if worse did come to worse and the developers for some reason or another refused to add such an option, is there a secret hack or any third party utilities that will strip all recipient names from messages in my database? Thanks to everyone who had something good to say! -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please, need help threading correctly...
Victor B. Gonzalez On Mon 13 June 2005, 17:37:49 +1000, you wrote: How do I re-filter all messages in my database so to strip the name from the recipient field and only leave behind the Address? I think you would need to use something like X-Ray Mail Assistant (www.xrayapp.com) for this. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
Hello Marck, That one's in the oven ;-). Stefan says he's added the function and really likes it. It will be in with the next beta series. Actually, Stefan says it will be available in 3.5 post-release :-) -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
1.- Open Customise and for 'Select container:' select 'Main Form'. Then click on down pointing arrow to the far right to expand Main Form and select 'Message List Pop-up Menu'. This will show on the right window 'Current items' the context menu that you get when you right click on the message list pane. Hi Marck, I just got some time to do this then came to a grinding halt when I could not find where to Open Customise. Your assistance here would be greatly appreciated. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Dear Steve, @19-May-2005, 13:17 Steve Lee [SL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MAU: 1.- Open Customise and for 'Select container:' select 'Main Form'. Then click on down pointing arrow to the far right to expand Main Form and select 'Message List Pop-up Menu'. This will show on the right window 'Current items' the context menu that you get when you right click on the message list pane. SL I just got some time to do this then came to a grinding halt when I SL could not find where to Open Customise. Your assistance here would SL be greatly appreciated. It was Miguel, but I can tell you anyway. Right click any old toolbar and choose Customise there. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpk1QVNx94eN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
It was Miguel, but I can tell you anyway. Right click any old toolbar and choose Customise there. Silly me. I wrote to Miguel and gave your name. Thanks for the help. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Steve, Hi Marck, I just got some time to do this then came to a grinding halt when I could not find where to Open Customise. Your assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Although you say Marck, you replied to me. Anyway, I see Marck has already given you an answer. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
Hello Steve, Hi Marck, I just got some time to do this then came to a grinding halt when I could not find where to Open Customise. Your assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Although you say Marck, you replied to me. Anyway, I see Marck has already given you an answer. Yes and it works well thank you - now if only we could find a way to do both next message and mark as read in one go. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Dear Steve, @19-May-2005, 22:35 Steve Lee [SL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MAU: Although you say Marck, you replied to me. Anyway, I see Marck has already given you an answer. SL Yes and it works well thank you - now if only we could find a way to SL do both next message and mark as read in one go. That one's in the oven ;-). Stefan says he's added the function and really likes it. It will be in with the next beta series. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgps2vI8JXcCy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Steve, Yes and it works well thank you - now if only we could find a way to do both next message and mark as read in one go. I don't know why but I have the feeling that it will be possible soon. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: Threading
Hello Steve, Where would we download this version? Is that the beta version or the current live download? It supposed to be available this Monday, but we ain't finished with fixes yet, so I suppose, the version will become available by the end of this week as a post-release. -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Threading
This can be done by change message list column settings. I do not see List Column under the Message dialog. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: Threading
Hello Steve, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 10:20:48 PM, you wrote: I do not see List Column under the Message dialog. It's in the View|Message List Columns -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Threading
This can be done by change message list column settings. Got it thank you. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Threading
Dear Stefan, I've added two more options to space bar reading today: Where would we download this version? Is that the beta version or the current live download? -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Threading
Hello Steve, SL The way we did it in VA (sorry to keep bringing that up) was to always SL have the threads opened by default This can be done by change message list column settings. SL Unlike in The Bat! and Outlook, the messages in VA never changed SL status from unread to read in x seconds while reading. Instead, SL hitting the return key to move to the next message marked it as SL unread. Thank you for pointing to this. We already have a possibility to read messages using the Space key. I've added two more options to space bar reading today: to move to the next unread message (requested before) and to mark message as read when taking off the current message. Also, a new action SmartSpace reading is added, so it's possible to add the action to the local menu of message list, preview and/or folder tree and define another hot-key (like Enter). -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Manual re-threading in 3.5
Hello all, I have just added a note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1226 and would appreciate any support to it. TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Stefan, On Sun, 15 May 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ST I've added two more options to space bar ST reading today: to move to the next unread message (requested before) ST and to mark message as read when taking off the current message. Hooray! thanks a lot for that. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
Hello Richard, ST I've added two more options to space bar ST reading today: to move to the next unread message (requested before) ST and to mark message as read when taking off the current message. RW Hooray! thanks a lot for that. No problem. I'm starting to think that I'm getting addicted to the lil' thingy after using it for a couple of hours... Wonder why I haven't implemented it before... :-)) Anyway, it will become available in the quick fix release this Monday night. -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Stefan, Anyway, it will become available in the quick fix release this Monday night. Indeed quick ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Threading
Hello Steve, SL Is there are away to automatically open any threads with unread SL messages to save having to click one's way down the chain? Funny enough, I was talking about the same thing a couple of days ago. Basically, it's not a problem to expand threads automatically to make unread messages visible, but for massive threads like we have in TB! lists, it would jam screen with the same thread making neighbour threads with unread messages out of the screen. If you're using keyboard most of time, Ctrl+Left/Right would be better (Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right in preview pane). Mouse: in 3.5, you can create a floating toolbar with navigation buttons (hmm... I guess, we should ask our artist to create glyphs for moving to unread messsages). I'm using MS mices on two of my PCs, so I defined additional mouse buttons to move to the next unread message and to move back to previously viewed. -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Threading
Hi Shefan, I hope this helps. It would resolve all the threading issues at a stroke now you have the improved system on v3. The way we did it in VA (sorry to keep bringing that up) was to always have the threads opened by default but use the Return key to move to the next unread message. In use it is smooth and elegant. If you accidentally hit return when you did not mean to then CTRL-Z would bring you back to the previous message(s). Unlike in The Bat! and Outlook, the messages in VA never changed status from unread to read in x seconds while reading. Instead, hitting the return key to move to the next message marked it as unread. From a user point of view it is very elegant working that way and is great when you have to work your way through a load of messages you have no interest in (like on mailing lists!). Just hit the return key bang bang bang there is a good one. Bang bang bang ...oops...CTRL-Z. See what I mean? SL Is there are away to automatically open any threads with unread SL messages to save having to click one's way down the chain? Funny enough, I was talking about the same thing a couple of days ago. Basically, it's not a problem to expand threads automatically to make unread messages visible, but for massive threads like we have in TB! lists, it would jam screen with the same thread making neighbour threads with unread messages out of the screen. If you're using keyboard most of time, Ctrl+Left/Right would be better (Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right in preview pane). -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version threading
So, I'm glad you like it. I've just been informed, via a post on tbbeta, that the new beta series is already beginning. Come over and help us, if you want to. :) I would love to but as with VA I never got involved with the beta program because my data is too previous and I dare not risk corruption or loss. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Steve, On Sat, 14 May 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SL Unlike in The Bat! and Outlook, the messages in VA never changed SL status from unread to read in x seconds while reading. Instead, hitting the return SL key to move to the next message marked it as unread. Oh yes please. I've asked for this feature before because I was used to it when I used AMEOL and it really is, IMHO, a much wanted addition. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version threading
Hello Steve! On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 6:11 AM, you wrote: So, I'm glad you like it. I've just been informed, via a post on tbbeta, that the new beta series is already beginning. Come over and help us, if you want to. :) I would love to but as with VA I never got involved with the beta program because my data is too previous and I dare not risk corruption or loss. I understand completely. It's nice, however, to see you in conversation with Stefan Tanurkov here. So at least we have one channel through which to reap the benefit of your expertise. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Steve, The way we did it in VA (sorry to keep bringing that up) was to always have the threads opened by default but use the Return key to move to the next unread message. You can Customise that. I was used to using Return in VA and I have always used it in TB and still do :) Unlike in The Bat! and Outlook, the messages in VA never changed status from unread to read in x seconds while reading. Select your Account/Properties/Options and untick 'Mark message as read when it is being read for...' See what I mean? It can be done Steve. It just isn't the default in TB. I also use a Space to mark a message as read (which was default in VA). So I just go Space and Return to jump to next unread. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello MAU, On Sat, 14 May 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M I also use a Space to mark a message as read (which was default in VA). M So I just go Space and Return to jump to next unread. How do you manage that? I can't get Space on its own to work? :-( I also never use preview panes which might make things a bit more difficult. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Richard, M I also use a Space to mark a message as read (which was default in VA). M So I just go Space and Return to jump to next unread. How do you manage that? I can't get Space on its own to work? :-( I changed the shortcut for 'Mark as read' to Space and 'Move to next unread' to Return. I also never use preview panes which might make things a bit more difficult. Yes, it will make a difference. I _only_ use preview panes and I changed the shortcuts in the corresponding popup menus. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello MAU, On Sat, 14 May 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M I changed the shortcut for 'Mark as read' to Space and 'Move to next M unread' to Return. I should have been more specific, sorry. I can't get Space or Return to be recognised on their own, only items that require two key strokes, CTRL+RIGHT for example :-( -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version threading
So at least we have one channel through which to reap the benefit of your expertise. I would not be so arrogant as to assume I had expertise but thank you for that compliment. now how do I put in one of those smileys everyone is so keen on? -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
You can Customise that. I was used to using Return in VA and I have always used it in TB and still do I bet you can not remember how to set the return key to move to next unread message! If you can please do share it as that would be fantastic. I tried to work it out but can not. I also use a Space to mark a message as read (which was default in VA). So I just go Space and Return to jump to next unread. And that one please? I can then go away and shut up as a very satisfied user grin -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version threading
Steve Lee @ 2005-May-14 2:14:59 PM New version threading mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] now how do I put in one of those smileys everyone is so keen on? Just type the characters for it: colon, dash, and close parenthesis. :-) Press F9 to view the source of this message and you will see that the above line is nothing more than text. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. There are 10 types of people in this world: those you can read binary and those who can't. pgpcWynl1Awy5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using Smiley Images [was Re: New version threading]
Hello Steve! On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 1:14 PM, you wrote, in part: now how do I put in one of those smileys everyone is so keen on? Smileys work from text handles that call images. You cannot view them in the Edit Mail Message window. To view them in View Message windows of any kind (including VFs and Browse Mail Ticker), you have to select RTV. A handy right-click context menu for the message body will let you switch from PTV to RTV. In that same menu, tick the box for Smileys. (There's a place in the Main Window Options/Preferences/Viewer-Editor to choose HTML/Rich Text View, plus a check box for Smileys, also.) You have a set of Default Smileys plus their .msl handles in The Bat!/Images folder. To put one of those in, just type the handle (or cp it into your message body text.) Be sure to include the enclosing colons ( : : ) with no space between handle and colons. Important: be sure to have a space on either outside of the colons. To use the additional images (not all of them Smileys, though we have them on the Smiley page--we have a large collection of flags, too), download them from: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Put the pcwimages folder in The Bat!/Images. Also, put the pcwsmileys.msl file in The Bat!/Images. The Default folder there is your collection of images that came with TB!, and default.msl, which you can open in a text reader such as Notepad is your collection of handles for those. So, after you get the PCWize Smiley page Smileys, you'll have 2 folders and 2 .msl files in The Bat!/Images. Forgive me if I'm redundant. A look in the Images folder alone would have been enough for you to figure this out, I'm sure. If I haven't told this clearly, please ask. I guess I really should work up a QT with a mini-tutorial for answering questions about using Smileys. :) I'm tickled to tell you how to play with these, as I am the Official Keeper of the Smileys! :) Hope it's okay to brag--actually I'm just Leif Gregory's helper with this. 9Val had the original Smileys-called-from-text-handles idea, and then Leif (I think with some more input from 9Val), expanded on it. Some of us on TBOT were privileged to help beta-test the page, and then Leif asked if I would help him out as the page's administrator. Die-hard PTV users don't have much use for the concept. Others, like me, have had an immense amount of fun with them. :) -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Richard, M I changed the shortcut for 'Mark as read' to Space and 'Move to next M unread' to Return. I should have been more specific, sorry. I can't get Space or Return to be recognised on their own, only items that require two key strokes, CTRL+RIGHT for example :-( I explained the trick in TBBeta, remember? ,- [ On April 19th I wrote in TBBeta: ] | It looks like it won't accept some single character shortcuts like | Space and Enter, which are my favourite ones BTW to mark a message | as Read and Move to next unread. What I did was to assign something | like Alt+8 and Alt+9 and then exit TB. I opened tbuser.def with a text | editor and changed the string 'Alt+8' to 'Space' and 'Alt+9' to 'Enter' | and after restarting TB both are working just fine. `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Steve, You can Customise that. I was used to using Return in VA and I have always used it in TB and still do I bet you can not remember how to set the return key to move to next unread message! If you can please do share it as that would be fantastic. I tried to work it out but can not. I guess my neurones need a couple of beers to get up and running ;-) I also use a Space to mark a message as read (which was default in VA). So I just go Space and Return to jump to next unread. And that one please? What about the beers? ;-) Let's see. 1.- Open Customise and for 'Select container:' select 'Main Form'. Then click on down pointing arrow to the far right to expand Main Form and select 'Message List Pop-up Menu'. This will show on the right window 'Current items' the context menu that you get when you right click on the message list pane. 2.- On this window find and select with you mouse 'Move to Next Unread'. 3.- On the Shortcuts window you will see the shortcuts already available for this. 4.- Place your mouse in the little window where it says 'none' and hit Alt+8 (I will explain later why Alt+8), and this will replace 'none'. Then click the Assign button below. 5. Repeat steps 2 to 4 for 'Mark as Read' using Alt+9 this time. 6.- Finally, click OK. Now, exit TB and find a file called 'tbuser.def' in your MAIL directory and open it with a text editor. As I have explained in another message a while ago: ,- [ On April 19th I wrote in TBBeta: ] | It looks like it won't accept some single character shortcuts like | Space and Enter, which are my favourite ones BTW to mark a message | as Read and Move to next unread. What I did was to assign something | like Alt+8 and Alt+9 and then exit TB. I opened tbuser.def with a text | editor and changed the string 'Alt+8' to 'Space' and 'Alt+9' to 'Enter' | and after restarting TB both are working just fine. `- Hope this helps :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello MAU, On Sat, 14 May 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M I explained the trick in TBBeta, remember? Yes and I even parked the message. I have all my TB parked messages in a virtual folder and do normally look through them but not on this occasion. Thanks again. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Threading)
Hallo Steve, On Sat, 14 May 2005 12:37:28 +0100GMT (14-5-2005, 13:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SL Hi Shefan, SL I hope this helps. It would resolve all the threading issues at a SL stroke now you have the improved system on v3. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Steve. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof PCMCIA: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms. The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgphbQojTyxJA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello MAU, On Sat, 14 May 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M I changed the shortcut for 'Mark as read' to Space and 'Move to next M unread' to Return. However it would be even better to be able to assign one key stroke to mark as read AND move to next unread message. I've tried but can't get it to work, presumably because of key stroke conflict. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Richard, However it would be even better to be able to assign one key stroke to mark as read AND move to next unread message. I've tried but can't get it to work, presumably because of key stroke conflict. I prefer to have the two keystrokes because many times I jump from unread to unread for a quick view. Anyway, at least for the moment I think it is not possible to assign two actions to a single keystroke. Now you can assign keystrokes (shortcuts) to actions and you would need to be able to assign actions to shortcuts. Maybe in the future. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Threading)
Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message I disagree with you. However it is your forum. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Threading
Dear Folks, I would like to congratulate the authors of The Bat! for providing such a nice useable program. A few of you may be aware that I owned a company called Atlantic Coast PLC and for many years we published an email/news client called Virtual Access. We made VA Open Source a few years ago but unfortunately development has been so slow that now the time has come to move on as VA still has very poor html handling and nowadays html is used a lot. One of the nice things about VA was the message threading and there is one feature I do not see in The Bat! by default but I wonder if it is possible to simulate with a bit of tweaking. At present all the outgoing emails go to the Sent Mail folder. Does anyone know a way to have those emails remain in the Inbox but also to retain threading so that one can look at a received message and easily work one's way back up the thread including any replies sent. In other words the whole discussion all in one grouping. I am actually also surprised that the default setting for threads is none rather than by subject or references. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
