Re: RegExp Question
Hello Januk,
(JA == "Januk Aggarwal") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It just threw me off when you doubled-up double quotes like
%NAME=""value""
I thought you may have made a typo, and it appears that you did.
JA No, it was intentional. I wanted to be consistent with what the
JA original poster was using. :-)
OK, now I'm confused. I tend to get that way with plenty of things, as
some of you *cough* Marck, Allie *cough* *cough* know.
I'm assuming Stuart borrowed from the "Strip PGP Signatures" example
in the Macros section of the FAQ:
[one line]
%quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--
\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP
SIGNATURE)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""
[one line]
Could you tell me why there needs to be two sets of double quotes
around the regular expression:
%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--
\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)""
and:
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""
and this:
%SUBPATT=""3""
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Re: RegExp Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Januk, On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, at 13:15:21 (which was 21:15 where I live) you wrote : 2) Set everything up to the -=-=-=- as %SUBPATT0 JA Ah, this is your mistake. %SUBPATT="0" is reserved for the entire JA match. So in your case you're matching everything including the sig. Ahh! Now that I have gone back and re-read the help pages, this becomes clear. I thought I had tried everything but obviously not :-) JA BTW, you can simplify the regexp to: JA JA one line JA %Quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)(.*?)(\n-=-=-=-\n\[.*\])"%REGEXPBLINDMAT CH="%TEXT"%SUBPATT="1"' JA /one line I was going to try to simplify the regexp once I had got it working, so thanks very much for doing it for me. I was working on the premise of making sure that I grabbed everything and then simplify it. Thanks very much for the help. I have found this group to be very useful in my learning of TB and hope that I can help others in the future. Stuart - -- A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOkMOLHjB/5h2FIaGEQKxzgCffbrfHyUXF+LwEE5dAR/whCZ7rZ0An2H2 F9dM2hjE2RNn0YudPwo5Tq/6 =grya -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: RegExp Question
Hello Brian,
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 at 03:16:56 GMT -0500 (which was 12:16 AM
where I live) witnesses say Brian Clark typed:
OK, now I'm confused. I tend to get that way with plenty of things, as
some of you *cough* Marck, Allie *cough* *cough* know.
g No problem.
... from the "Strip PGP Signatures" example
in the Macros section of the FAQ:
[one line]
%quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--
\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP
SIGNATURE)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""
[one line]
Could you tell me why there needs to be two sets of double quotes
around the regular expression:
%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--
\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)""
and:
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""
and this:
%SUBPATT=""3""
This is because these three macros are arguments to the %Quotes macro,
and the delimiters for the %QUOTES macro is single double quotes.
Therefore a different delimiter needs to be used, and so double double
quotes were used.
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Re: RegExp Question
Hello Januk,
(JA == "Januk Aggarwal") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... from the "Strip PGP Signatures" example
in the Macros section of the FAQ:
[one line]
%quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--
\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP
SIGNATURE)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""
[one line]
Could you tell me why there needs to be two sets of double quotes
around the regular expression.
snip
JA This is because these three macros are arguments to the %Quotes macro,
JA and the delimiters for the %QUOTES macro is single double quotes.
JA Therefore a different delimiter needs to be used, and so double double
JA quotes were used.
OK, then this should be equivalent to the original, right?
[one line]
%quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)(^-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--
\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%text"%SUBPATT="3"'
[one line]
I should probably just be trying this myself..
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Re: RegExp Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Januk, On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, at 00:04:59 (which was 08:04 where I live) you wrote : JA No, it was intentional. I wanted to be consistent with what the JA original poster was using. :-) Who wanted to be consistent with all the examples that he had seen. Thanks once again, Januk, for a clear and concise explanation of why it is like this. Stuart - -- And now for something completely different... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOkMUOHjB/5h2FIaGEQKAiwCg3y+X+E/tQ/d9uoJAsMq+a7qyexEAoLgp puOgF8oK60HI+yGuocVwkci+ =EBDU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: RegExp Question
Hello Brian, On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 at 03:36:42 GMT -0500 (which was 12:36 AM where I live) witnesses say Brian Clark typed: snip JA ... the delimiters for the %QUOTES macro is single double quotes. JA Therefore a different delimiter needs to be used, and so double double JA quotes were used. OK, then this should be equivalent to the original, right? snip Barring any typos I'm not seeing, that is correct. I should probably just be trying this myself.. Feel free to experiment. I have a QT called 'tester'. Any time I want to test some template fragment, I put it in there, then from an editor I can manually apply the template quickly. It makes efficient development easy. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to export email account to outlook 2000?
Hi Thomas, Friday, December 22, 2000, 5:39:58 AM, you wrote: Yes. I have a little utility program for that; it's called NAVIDAD.EXE. I can send it to you, and then you run it. Reboot your computer. Outlook will magically receive an own consciousness and you don't need to do anthing any more! Outlook will work unattended. :-) Unfortunately, this utility program does not work with The Bat!, though. :-( ROTFLMAO! There are lots of others too with much cuter names like Happy99 and Melissa -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48f Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Hide folders with The Bat?
On 22-12-2000 at 07:08, Thomas Fernandez kindly wrote: Karin Spaink wrote: KS For a lengthy explanation of how to attain this, please KS refer to two of Januk's older postings, of which I KS quote the relevant part: You *do* know that we have archives to which you could have pointed the gentle reader, right? ;-) I do. I thought I would be especially kind to him, it being almost Xmas and such ;-) - K - -- There is no conspiracy. Nobody is in charge. It's a headless blunder operating under the illusion of a master plan. - The Cube, 1997 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Hide folders with The Bat?
Hi Karin, On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:39:49 +0100GMT (22/12/2000, 19:39 +0800GMT), Karin Spaink wrote: KS I do. I thought I would be especially kind to him, it being KS almost Xmas and such ;-) You are so generous. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Hide folders with The Bat?
Hello Thomas, Friday, December 22, 2000, 7:10:38 AM, you wrote: TF Hi Johan, TF On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:03:53 +0100GMT (22/12/2000, 07:03 +0800GMT), TF Johan Svahn wrote: JS Is there a way to "hide" mail folders from the folder tree? TF Apart from setting up different users (which will result in different TF accounts which may not bne visible, but if I understand you right, you TF want to make folders within one account visible and invisible), this TF is not possible. TF But I like the idea. TF Also, kindly advise the URL of Magic Folders. I've never heard of it TF but your description makes me curious. Description from http://www.pc-magic.com/ : Your invisible folders and files can't be deleted, viewed, modified, or run. For all practical purposes they don't exist. Use Magic Folders to protect your finances, taxes, business and personal documents. Others won't know these files exist and they won't be able to accidentally delete or modify them either. With Magic Folders you can turn your computer over to your children or co-workers without worrying if they'll delete, modify or view important files. Yet, just enter your password and you'll instantly have complete and normal access to all your folders and the files within. There's no need to un-hide each file or folder individually. And Magic Folders is totally transparent. No one need know your invisible folders/files even exist. If you wish, you can establish 10 different accounts so everyone using your computer can create their own invisible folders that only they have access to. If you share your computer you need Magic Folders. Use it to protect files you don't want others to delete, modify, view, or use. Keep your important files safe. Protect them with Magic Folders! IMHO its not perfect and certainly not totally fool-proof, but its a very nifty program which is small and you can easily hide or unhide folders with a keystroke. -- Best regards, Johanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
empty mails and problems with opening of hyperlinks
Hello! I've got two little probs here: First, sometimes when I check my mailaccount, I receive for example 20 mails, but only 5 of them are "normal", the rest consists only of totaly empty mails with a size of 0 bytes. Second is that when I installed The BAT, I had Staroffice on my HD. Now everytime I want to open a hyperlink in a message with a doubleclick, the BAT uses Staroffice with its integrated browser(which isn't very good and which takes a long time to load...). I already checked all options of the BAT and also in Staroffice, but couldn't find anything helpfull. Even deinstallation of staroffice only causes the BAT to ask for the missing link to C:/.../staroffice.exe. Has anybody experienced the same problem(s)? Could anybody please help me with this?? Best regards and merry x-mas! swen222 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: upgraded and lost my messages - help!!
On Thursday, December 21, 2000, 9:21:34 AM, Don wrote: I just upgraded from a version about 5 months old and have lost all my messages in my folders. I can still see the files, but all I can see is messages from 6/6/00. I'm afraid you have to be more specific before anybody here can help you. Which version of TB did you upgrade from? Did you backup before upgrading? Does this happen to all your folders (in all accounts), or just some? You say you can see the files, which I assume to be those .tbb and .tbi files, right? Do their file size look normal? Have you tried to import from those .tbb file? -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
RE: How to export email account to outlook 2000?
Very very funny. I used The bat for 1 and half year now. Yes It's a great program but my company use Outlook + Exchange. I have to practice with the MS program (public folder, form, etc). So, is there a technique to export my mail or not ? Do I have to pass by another email program (like Eudora for example) before exporting to outlook ? Merry Christmas and happy new year to you all ! Fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Aston Sent: 22 decembre, 2000 05:54 To: Thomas Fernandez on TBUDL Subject: Re: How to export email account to outlook 2000? Hi Thomas, Friday, December 22, 2000, 5:39:58 AM, you wrote: Yes. I have a little utility program for that; it's called NAVIDAD.EXE. I can send it to you, and then you run it. Reboot your computer. Outlook will magically receive an own consciousness and you don't need to do anthing any more! Outlook will work unattended. :-) Unfortunately, this utility program does not work with The Bat!, though. :-( ROTFLMAO! There are lots of others too with much cuter names like Happy99 and Melissa -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Serious bug?!
On Thursday, December 21, 2000, 9:57:56 PM, Thomas wrote: When I tried just now, however, it didn't behave that way. TB did prompt me the first time (so I've no idea why you couldn't check mail on GMX), but then it remember it *forever*. I.e., even after I shut down and restarted TB, it could still check mail for that account, even though the password field was still blank (I didn't check the "update account data" option when typing in the password). Could someone confirm this? No. TB aks me every single time when I do a POP-check. Do you have the "do not store password, prompt on mail retrieval" option checked? Which was the exact setting you refer to when you said that TB will remember the password "for this session only"? For me, TB either remembers permanently (if I so wish), or not all. That's the old behavior. Now if you don't have the option mentioned above checked, and you leave the password field empty in the account properties, TB would prompt, but just once. If you check the "update account data" option at this time, TB would write the password into the account properties (shown as a series of *). If you don't check the option, the password field in account properties remains empty, but TB doesn't ask anymore. At least that's how it behaves here. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
send bug?
Hi TBUDL, Reply to a message, hit Send the Letter, then Cancel. Open message in outbox, this time click Put the Letter in Outbox. Click on drop down for Get New Mail, select Send+Check for all TB! says "Nothing to Send" and leaves the mail in the outbox. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide "You left them alone in a room with a penguin?! Mr Gates, your men are already dead." Using The Bat! 1.48f Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Serious bug?!
On Thursday, December 21, 2000, 2:21:16 PM, Dierk wrote: I gave it some thought and came up with a szenario that fits what we both found: When I first used 1.48 it could be that I mistyped my password, which is not shown on the screen (and that's fine with me). So I couldn't log in, but TB! remembered the password with typo, and every single time from then on it tried to log in with a wrong password! Good guess, but it doesn't match my experiment just now. First of all, you can check your account log. If you mistyped your password in the first place, there should be an entry in the log that says (quoted from my log): Server reports error. The response is: -ERR invalid user name or password. Furthermore, when I deliberately typed in a wrong password, TB would keep asking until I got it right. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: upgraded and lost my messages - help!!
12/22/2000, Friday, 9:43 AM Hello Ming-Li, Thanks so much for responding. Answers to your questions below... Best regards, Don Rosenbergemail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Record Exchange 916 Bridle Path Lane Charlotte, NC 28211 704-364-1784 Original Text Follows: ML On Thursday, December 21, 2000, 9:21:34 AM, Don wrote: I just upgraded from a version about 5 months old and have lost all my messages in my folders. I can still see the files, but all I can see is messages from 6/6/00. ML I'm afraid you have to be more specific before anybody here can help ML you. Which version of TB did you upgrade from? Version 1.41 ML Did you backup before ML upgrading? I don't know how to backup. ML Does this happen to all your folders (in all accounts), ML or just some? All folders are there, but contain 0 messages. ML You say you can see the files, which I assume to be ML those .tbb and .tbi files, right? In Windows Explorer I see message.msb and .tbx files. ML Do their file size look normal? Yes. ML Have you tried to import from those .tbb file? N/A I found my old install file and reinstalled the older version and my files were restored. I want to be able to back up my messages, but the last time I tried to copy the entire directory to somewhere safe the whole thing screwed up. It was a long time ago so I don't remember the details. Don. ;} -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to export email account to outlook 2000?
Hi Frederic, Friday, December 22, 2000, 2:27:36 PM, you wrote: So, is there a technique to export my mail or not ? Do I have to pass by another email program (like Eudora for example) before exporting to outlook ? Merry Christmas and happy new year to you all ! Obviously not much sympathy here for your problem:-) The only way I know to do what you want is by using Outlook Express and Eudora as intermediaries, export your Bat mail as Unix boxes, rename with *.mbx extensions and open them in Eudora. Import them from Eudora to Outlook Express, then Export them from OE to Outlook 2000. Don't you just love proprietary mail box formats? -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.48f Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: empty mails and problems with opening of hyperlinks
On Friday, December 22, 2000, 5:28:28 AM, swen222 wrote: First, sometimes when I check my mailaccount, I receive for example 20 mails, but only 5 of them are "normal", the rest consists only of totaly empty mails with a size of 0 bytes. Do you leave mail on the servers? If you do, you may use the mail dispatcher to see if they're indeed 0 byte messages. Second is that when I installed The BAT, I had Staroffice on my HD. Now everytime I want to open a hyperlink in a message with a doubleclick, the BAT uses Staroffice with its integrated browser(which isn't very good and which takes a long time to load...). I already checked all options of the BAT and also in Staroffice, but couldn't find anything helpfull. Even deinstallation of staroffice only causes the BAT to ask for the missing link to C:/.../staroffice.exe. Has anybody experienced the same problem(s)? Could anybody please help me with this?? I guess the default url handler in your system is lost. There are several ways to cure it. The easiest way may be, launch your browser, go to options (preferences), and check an option that enables it to check if its the default browser at startup. Then close the browser, and restart it. It should find it's no longer the default browser, and ask to repair it. Let it does that, and everything should be back to normal. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: MTX virus
On Thursday, December 21, 2000, 12:53:56 PM, Bob wrote: We use TB v1.41 and got hit with the MTX virus twice in the past month. The person who handles email for my company has been trained not to open attachments, and she claims she has never done so. Is she the only one in your company having access to email? Is TB implemented company-wide? Anyone could have double clicked on the virus attachment and infect the whole network. And some employee not enamor (or simply not familiar) with TB might have installed his/her own email clients. In that case, even double clicking might not be necessary. If she is indeed the only one who could have touched the message (with the virus), and TB is the only email client she uses, then she must have double clicked (or press entered) on the virus attachment unknowingly. Be gentle to her, and promise her she won't be fired, and she might thought of something. :) As a suggestion to RIT, I think it might be a good idea to be able to optionally record attachment launching events in the log. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: default account column settings and threading mode
On Thursday, December 21, 2000, 10:41:58 AM, A. wrote: Yes, it has always been like this. :-( Well, you may have already noted that each view has its own column settings, in that if you switch from one thread view to another, the columns will change. Yes, this much I know. Therefore, if you change from unthreaded mode to threaded mode in one of the folders using the default column settings, you'd have effectively changed its column settings and the other default folders will follow suit. Thank you for trying to make sense of it. Still, since TB is smart enough to remember different column settings for different threading mode, I don't see why it shouldn't remember which mode one folder is using. The way I see it, there are one default column setting for each threading mode, and a folder using default settings should be able to choose its own mode. Well, another wish list item. For now, I guess I have to give up the default settings for about 2/3 of my folders. :( -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Serious bug?!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Friday, December 22, 2000 at 3:24:50 PM you wrote: Furthermore, when I deliberately typed in a wrong password, TB would keep asking until I got it right. A pity, it seemed such a good guess. Now it looks like a combination of server failure, human failure (on my side) and programming "mistake" (in that the new behaviour is - IMHO - not better than the old one). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.48f Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Erwarte von anderen nur, was Du selbst bereit bist zu geben. (Romy Walda) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: To further and enhance security for everybody! iQA/AwUBOkNkCPTo1oA8g8dLEQJRKQCeNrYoeYp5EwueyzsPIGNuiR3j7icAoLJC HIB7kpXWbO61bv++ZHQyOERC =Mw7L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: upgraded and lost my messages - help!!
On Friday, December 22, 2000, 9:49:15 AM, Don wrote: Thanks so much for responding. Answers to your questions below... Oops, somehow I got your private reply much earlier than this one. I've replied it, though I did post it to TBUDL. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: upgraded and lost my messages - help!!
On Friday, December 22, 2000, 9:49:15 AM, Don wrote: [I'm replying on TBUDL for I'm not familiar with 1.41, and usually a problem is solved more quickly there.] I just upgraded from a version about 5 months old and have lost all my messages in my folders. I can still see the files, but all I can see is messages from 6/6/00. ML I'm afraid you have to be more specific before anybody here can help ML you. Which version of TB did you upgrade from? Version 1.41 Ok, I started out from 1.42 beta, so I've no experience with versions prior than that. So far as I know, there's a major change involving message base format from 1.41 to 1.42, which caused problem for some other people. I'll leave this to other "elders" on the list. ML Did you backup before upgrading? I don't know how to backup. All you need is to copy the whole mail home directory (including sub-dirs) to a safe place, and export the registry branch of HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT There's a widely adopted batch file that could automate the process. You just yell help and someone would give it to you. ML Does this happen to all your folders (in all accounts), or just ML some? All folders are there, but contain 0 messages. 0 messages? I though you said you could see messages since 6/6/2000? ML You say you can see the files, which I assume to be those .tbb ML and .tbi files, right? In Windows Explorer I see message.msb and .tbx files. Ok, those the old format. ML Do their file size look normal? Yes. Good. ML Have you tried to import from those .tbb file? N/A Check the Import tool under Tool menu and you'll see you can import from .msb files as well. Never tried it myself, though. I found my old install file and reinstalled the older version and my files were restored. Good. I believe some other gurus would guide you to a smoother transition. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: upgraded and lost my messages - help!!
On Friday, December 22, 2000, 7:27:08 AM, Ming-Li wrote: Oops, somehow I got your private reply much earlier than this one. I've replied it, though I did post it to TBUDL. I feel like an idiot talking to myself like this. Well, the reply I posted was bounced back just now for it's sent from my other email alias. I've resent it. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48f | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Trash Folder
Hello, I use the "Bat" to check and retrieve messages from my Yahoo mail account. It works great except for 1 detail. All the messages that I delete from the folders in the bat end up in my trash folder in my Yahoo account. Yahoo treats these as stored messages and after awhile it just cant hold anymore. Is there a way to keep these deleted messages from ending up in my Yahoo trash folder..? I do have it so that the bat deletes the messages from the server after retrieval, but it dumps them in the Yahoo trash folder anyway. Its not a BIG deal but it is a pain to have go to my yahoo mail account and empty the trash folder everyday.. I receive nearly 700 emails a day, and my trash folder fills quickly. I must be missing something. -- Fusiontunes, The Fusion Violinist Discover the Music of a Fusion Violinist..!! http://www.fusiontunes.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
BUG 1.48f: New message count is still wrong
Hi TBUDL, I have a filter that sends mail to trash. 1. 4 New messages unread in trash [blue basket, in bold, New: 4, Total: 4] 2. Total new messages: 4 3. Go to the trash, delete each message by pressing the delete key. Result: A. Trash Folder: [blue basket, in bold, New: 3, Total: 3] B. Total new messages: 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2000 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Correction: BUG 1.48f: New message count is still wrong
Hi TBUDL, I have a filter that sends mail to trash. 1. 4 New messages unread in trash [blue basket, in bold, New: 4, Total: 4] 2. Total new messages: 4 3. Go to the trash, delete each message by pressing the delete key. Result: A. Trash Folder: [blue basket, in bold, New: 3, Total: 0] Correction B. Total new messages: 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2000 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send the same message x-times when online connection busy
Hello Kari other fellow TB! Users following this interesting and unusual thread, Friday, December 22, 2000, you stated regarding sending and resending a message is a bug or not: KJ But I don't want this behaviour! It was out of unconciousness. KJ I hit the send button, did something else, checked back, saw the KJ message still in the outbox, cursed it, hit send again - and pop! 2 KJ times the same message on TBUDL. :-( The cure to unconsciousness would seem to be consciousness; i.e., waking up. Alternatively, you could look for an ISP with a faster connection /or less traffic. KJ Maybe this instruction should not be obeyed by TB! In that case Kari, what we need is a version of TB! capable of reading the mind of the user and even compensating for that when his or her mind isn't made up. Please do let me know if this happens again, and I'll be happy to remind you that the message is already being sent. When when of mine hangs up on sending, I cancel it and resend it (but just once - I may try a couple of times, but only alter canceling the ongoing one first. If that doesn't do it, I try using a different smtp server for sending. I may change accounts to do that (right click on the bottom border of the editing window, second block from the right). Sometimes the connection just doesn't work, and I go off line and then back on again. Other times, I may have to reboot. And still others, either use a different ISP or try later, after the problem (excess traffic or a server problem) has been resolved. The main thing, is never despair, and never give up. Hang in there and maintain your composure. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Send the same message x-times when online connection busy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Douglas, On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, 16:58:22 h [GMT -0600] (which was 23:58 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: DH The cure to unconsciousness would seem to be consciousness; i.e., DH waking up. Alternatively, you could look for an ISP with a faster DH connection /or less traffic. :-p DH In that case Kari, what we need is a version of TB! capable of DH reading the mind of the user and even compensating for that when his DH or her mind isn't made up. DH Please do let me know if this happens again, and I'll be happy to DH remind you that the message is already being sent. See above DH Sometimes the connection just doesn't work, and I go off line and DH then back on again. Other times, I may have to reboot. And still DH others, either use a different ISP or try later, after the problem DH (excess traffic or a server problem) has been resolved. See my sig? I *do* not reboot. At least I needn't for the past 5 days. There have been other times when I was running under (or was I ran over by) Win98SE. ;-) Thank you for enriching my life with your thoughts. But nevertheless when I'm downloading with 5.7kb/s with my 56k modem and then chcking my mail account there is no other ISP which could get me better connection to speed up mail delivery. :-( This is the way it is. I will get by with it. Trail off - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48f on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOkPgtwdigFw4jOv/EQK/CACfY+obAUeo8CK4LspEvE2Rl/cK1PoAn1pp KbUQIsIhDHLO7A8U3TNlkUt/ =4UR8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Organization
I am currently away and will be unable to respond to your message before January 2, 2001. Happy non-denominational festivities to all. Peace, Melissa p.s. I accidentally set the end date as 01/02/2000, and Yahoo told me, "As much as your boss might like it, a vacation cannot end before it begins." Heh. Original Message: X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from dip6.dutaint.com (EHLO dutaint.com) (203.130.233.8) by mta110.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2000 15:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from thebat.dutaint.com by thebat.dutaint.com with RAW (MDaemon.v3.5.2.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 06:16:46 +0700 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 06:16:46 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Digest (12/23/2000 06:16) Special Issue (#2000-637) [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Confirmation Receipt
Hi Co-Batties, somehow my Bat changed the behaviour of handling the confirmation receipts - it simply creates each receipt without asking, though it's in the account settings as well as in every single folder saying "don't override *and* ignore" - what did I miss? Cheers, Vince -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Serious bug?!
Hallo Ming-Li, On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 06:25:54 -0800 GMT (22/12/2000, 22:25 +0800 GMT), Ming-Li wrote: Which was the exact setting you refer to when you said that TB will remember the password "for this session only"? For me, TB either remembers permanently (if I so wish), or not all. ML That's the old behavior. Now if you don't have the option mentioned ML above checked, and you leave the password field empty in the account ML properties, TB would prompt, but just once. If you check the "update ML account data" option at this time, TB would write the password into ML the account properties (shown as a series of *). If you don't check ML the option, the password field in account properties remains empty, ML but TB doesn't ask anymore. At least that's how it behaves here. I confirm this on my home machine. Weird the office machine seems to have worked differently. I also confirm the bug: If you do *not* tick the "do not store" tickmark, TB will remember the password across sessions. HCI remark: "do not store"... didn't we have a thread some time ago about negative sentences to be confirmed? Should this be a "store the..." dialogue, where the default could be ticked or not, depending on the developers taste? And I second the motion that this choice should be on the first window, not only visible on the second, deeper, window. -- Cheers, Thomas. In a Rhodes tailor shop: Order your summers suit. Because is big rush we will execute customers in strict rotation. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Confirmation Receipt
Hallo Vincent, On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:32:23 +0100 GMT (23/12/2000, 07:32 +0800 GMT), Vincent - D. Ertner wrote: VDE somehow my Bat changed the behaviour of handling the confirmation VDE receipts - it simply creates each receipt without asking, though VDE it's in the account settings as well as in every single folder VDE saying "don't override *and* ignore" - what did I miss? I just check, because I had a case this morning. Account / Properties / Templates / Reading Confirmation shows Put in Outbox in that particular account. "Prompt" is ticked. The message came into the Inbox (it was correctly not caught by any filter), so the account settings apply, not the folder settings. I got a prompt: "Cereate Reading Confimation Y/N?", as desidered, and chose No. Perfect. I also looked at my folder level settings for other folders, and the only tickmark I have set there is "Ignore". I have not set "override". However, just to make sure, I would chose "Prompt" if I were you. -- Cheers, Thomas. "When you smell an odorless gas, it is probably carbon monoxide" Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
